Interview with Judith Sackanay - June 17, 2026

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You are watching Contact TV with your host, Leslie Mitchell Clark, exploring ufology, metaphysics, and beyond with the world's foremost experts.
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Hello, friends, and welcome to another episode of Contact TV.
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Now, believe it or not, in our 14th year, incredible but true.
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And today I'm really excited because we have a marvelous guest, and this is her first visit, but hopefully not her last, certainly, to Contact TV.
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And we are welcoming Judith Sakany, who is the not only a wonderful visual artist, but she is the producer and director of a marvelous conference coming up in August, all about Bigfoot.
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Bigfoot Will Heal Us, the healing of the clans.
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And so without any further ado, I'm so thrilled to welcome Judy.
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Judy, thank you for being here today with me.
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Hi, thank you.
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And Leslie, it's nice to be here.
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I had a safe trip here from up north and had a good experience on my way here too.
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Oh my.
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Do you want to tell us about your experience before we get into anything further, or do you want to wait on that one?
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Yeah, let's wait on that one.
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And we could go up from then to now to just like what happened in like an hour ago.
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That sounds fantastic.
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So uh Judy, tell me how did you become involved in this work with Bigfoot, and I would have to extend that to other elementals.
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Have you always had the sight, as we uh the shining, as we call it in the Irish culture?
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And is it is it something that um i is part of your family tradition or genetic within your family?
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Yes.
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Um, well, First Nation, first of all, I'm Cree, Mashgradewa Cree from Treaty Nine Territory, and um my dad raised us and my mom too raised us in a small town named Cochrane.
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That's where I was born and raised.
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My older siblings was born out in the land or up in further up Mousini area.
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But uh we're we're Cree people, we're Cree nations, and uh we always had a teaching about uh Sabe or in our language we would say Uchi Skucho, meaning Bigfoot and in uh Cree.
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And um we always had a connection um with them.
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Um there's teachings along with them and what they what their role is in the in this world today.
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And um the first time I came to see one, I was about 1819.
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I was traveling down south to North Bay and um I was in the back seat and my sister was driving and and I thought I saw a big uh log, but it's like upright log, and I was like, Wow.
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Then it started moving.
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And they're like, Whoa.
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And then my sister in the backseat, she was with me and she said, What did you see?
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And I told her I couldn't say nothing at first.
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I go, I I I saw a Sasquatch, and she looked at me and she goes, I believe you.
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And I go, Okay.
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But my other two sisters were in the front, they they just kind of laughed it off, like you know, because they heard us talking, but I know what I saw.
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So that was my first ever seeing them in a physical.
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But when I was younger, I I always knew of them.
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And our families used to go blueberry picking out east of uh Cochrane every year, because creep people we do blueberry camps, and um so we went out there uh almost every year, and then um n after that, like maybe about ten years ago, we went out blueberry picking, my s my older sister and her husband and myself, three of us.
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So many experiences out there with with them, and that's when I first heard them speak.
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And they're speaking a language I can't even I can't even try to imitate that because and as I was blueberry picking, I saw one sitting there perched behind these pine trees, and I'm not like I see you.
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I just said I see you and I could hear you.
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And I kept on looking over my brother-in-law and my sister, like I was here, there one was there, my sister was there, my her husband was over there, and then we um I kept on hearing them.
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I could hear them talk.
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So I asked them, Can you just protect us?
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Because we're picking blueberries here, you know, we're picking blueberries here, and we wanna just protect us from the bearers and wolves, because we're in open field, right?
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Oh yeah.
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And blueberry picking, and um and then when I saw him, like that young it was a young one, and I go, I can see you.
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And then I they're talking, and then I looked okay and asked for protection, and I started picking away blueberries, and then he moved.
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He moved way further this time, and I could see him like perching behind these pine trees, and I'm like, I can still see you.
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And then I'm there, I can still see you, but just protect us if there's bears or even moose coming coming by, and uh, so I can continue on picking, and then and then I looked up and I see this little pine tree about maybe this high, and it it seemed like it was stepped on.
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It was it was like on the side.
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I'm going, that looked like it was stepped on.
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And sure enough, I went over there and I saw a big footprint.
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Oh my god.
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And I was like, wow.
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I said, this he stepped on this little pine tree, I was thinking.
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And then I saw the next one and then the next one.
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So I can't I went to count them, like how far apart were they?
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And they were about five feet apart stride.
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Oh my goodness.
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So that was a that was a large really big.
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His footprint was about maybe about this big, but five feet apart each time.
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What a stride.
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And then uh yeah, and then I was like, and then I could still hear them talk, right?
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I could still hear them.
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I was like, okay, I hear these guys, just protect us.
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I kept on asking for protection, just uh, but I don't understand what you're saying.
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I said, I don't understand what you're saying.
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Just protect us.
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And then um then there was lunchtime and my sister and uh I saw my sister and my brother-in-law went to the car and they said, Judy, it's lunch.
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I go, Okay.
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So I went there to the I recorded that part too where I was taking strides.
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I I do have a video of it somewhere.
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And um so we went to the car and my sister and I said, Okay.
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I know I'm not the only one that's hearing them.
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And my then they fussed up there.
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My sister, yes, I hear them too.
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Oh my god.
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And my brother in law, yeah, I see a lot of tracks we're unpicking.
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And I go, Okay, good, I'm not going crazy.
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You heard them.
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She goes, Yes.
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What did you say?
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What did you say to them?
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She told me the same thing.
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I asked them to protect us.
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I go, that's it.
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Thank you for saying that because that's all we need to ask them to do while we're out here, because it's part of our tradition, and they know that to harvest blueberries, because that's what we do.
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They know that from millennia.
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Yeah.
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They know that.
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When you heard them talking, would you say you were hearing an auditory noise or was it in your head?
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It was an auditory noise.
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There were there it was coming from the direction we were.
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And this is the first time I've heard about them speaking in another language, but um I I I think that I find that fascinating because that's the first time I have ever heard that.
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Wow.
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That that's uh that is because what they they can communicate in different ways, like in the way they communicate with Mike Patterson.
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Sometimes it's fully auditory, sometimes it's purely telepathic.
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Yeah.
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Do you find that you get both types of communications?
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Actually, there's three types.
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Ah, okay.
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Telepathically, and then the vocalization and then the energy frequency.
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Oh yes.
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Okay, when you feel it, and when you feel their presence, it feels like uh pure love.
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All I can describe it like that, like that.
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It's pure love, and it's a feeling that you get, and you know that they're there, and and but sometimes they allow you to see them and sometimes not.
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But like I said, I just take a picture and then they appear.
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Well, they allow that too, and sometimes you can't see them with your naked eye, but the digital technology and the way it can pick up EMFs and other things that uh um, you know, uh and um, you know, spirit voices and what have you, uh, it is able to catch those images in a unique way that ordinary film can't always do.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's fascinating.
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And so um I believe they did protect you during the blueberry picking.
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And I I have to wonder if there isn't an ongoing relationship that maybe you don't remember every part of.
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Yes, um, so because our family's been out there every year, so they know who we are, and then past couple years I haven't been out there because you know I I just been busy and for past four years I haven't been up there to blueberry pick.
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So the leader, the one that's up there, because we've seen him a couple of times.
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I've seen him a couple of times up there.
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Okay.
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Okay, there's a couple of other uh um um situations that I had with them when we're going out, check out the blueberries, and go check out the blueberries, see how the blueberry is going.
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And then we were driving.
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I just happened to look in the open field, I see this tall, dark, which I thought was a tree stump again, and and I go, Oh, that's just a tree stump.
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And then they start walking.
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I go, Whoa, that's bigfoot.
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Stop, stop.
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I said, I see Sasquatch, and nobody wouldn't look.
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They were all scared.
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And I had there was like four of us in the car, and I go, just look, he's way over there.
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He can't touch us, he won't touch us.
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And then they were like, No, no, we don't want to look.
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I go, Okay.
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So I said, Okay.
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Well, anyway, he was walking.
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He was like maybe about 500 uh meters.
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It was that far.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I was like, whoa, and um, and then my sister asked, uh, was he walking towards the blueberries?
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I said, Yes, he was.
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They probably love the blueberries.
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And then the next day we went out there and um and we were blueberry picking.
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And this is another, this is like um the next day we went out there, and um just a lot of things happened in that area, and we were blueberry picking and we heard like wolves.
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Wolves, but they weren't wolves.
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We I knew they weren't wolves, and my sister was like, Oh, I hear wolves, and they go.
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And and at that time I was using my intuition, was starting like really coming back strong because I remember I used to see spirits when I was younger.
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And then I was like, then then when you're growing up, you you're a teenager, and then I remember my grandfather passing away, my mushem, and I remember him coming to me and laughing and saying that he was fine and stuff like that.
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And I go, Oh yeah, he's okay.
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And then people were like, What someone said something and then it turned off, like I turn it off because when you're 15 and you don't understand those kind of messages that you're receiving, so I just turn it off for a bit.
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But I I always was intuitive after that.
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But I was really coming back, really like in my late twenties.
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Oh yeah, of course.
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Yeah, well, that makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah, so my other one, um, my experience was that, and then of course, seeing big tracks out there, like we found we saw a humongous track about this big, and um my sister stopped, and but she goes, Stop.
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I was driving.
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She goes, Stop, because I see a huge track where I backed up, and sure enough, there's a huge track like this.
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So there is a clan up there.
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I found out there's clans all over, like just like um you know, Cree people are, native people are, indigenous people are.
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There's indigenous, there's uh Cree, there's Ojibwe, there's um Dakota, Lakota, um all different nations.
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Same with them, they're different clans, different nations.
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I don't know all of them, but um everywhere I go, there's a clan there.
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There's a clan living there.
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And uh clan here and clan there, they're all over.
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And they could be in your backyard, they could be everywhere.
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They would and anywhere.
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I think that they are, and I think they go wherever they want.
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Oh yeah.
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And and we talked a lot with Mike Patterson on one of the last shows I did about their ability to adjust their vibrational level uh you know internally so that they can appear or not appear because they're being they're being hunted by people who don't understand.
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Yes.
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And they are they can be physically harmed, I think, when they're in the physical, uh, when they're in our our 3D zone.
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Yes.
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Um and um so we have a responsibility to protect protect them as well, because they are certainly one of the original people.
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Yes.
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If not the original people that was untampered with genetically.
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Yes.
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You know, uh we have a responsibility to to protect them, which is one of the beautiful things that I feel coming from your conference in August, is we're talking about healing and integrating with them uh spiritually.
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I mean, that's how I perceive it.
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And everything that we're going to do is going to be in that spiritual realm.
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You know, who knows?
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They may even incarnate sometimes as humans if they choose to.
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Yeah.
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It's a universe of free will.
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Yes, yes.
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And um, so that's entirely possible.
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And I I said this before, but I was we I have had a number of people do it when I was doing interlife regressions, which is about what happens after we leave our physical body, when people appear before their council, which is one of the commonalities that we have, it's not unusual to see not only ETs of different types, but to see a Sasquatch or two in your personal council.
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So we are conjoined with them.
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We are in the same spiritual group.
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And what I'm hoping is that, you know, this will be a time of disclosure, and as we disclose about the presence of ETs and other things and the nature of reality and everything that we're it's now just buzzing, that um they will feel feel free enough to make more direct contact, which I think they can do.
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I think they're just being cautious.
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Yes, and they are doing that as we speak.
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You know, I like people come to me all the time, and um even my own soup, my own boss at work, like she started to see them as the way we see them, like I see them, and she thought, Am I going crazy?
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No, this is they're showing you because when when people start healing themselves, they raise their vibration, they raise their frequency.
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So when you raise their frequency, you're gonna see these other dimensions.
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It's like tuning in a radio station, you're tuning in.
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And that's what I was thinking when someone asks me, Can oh Judy, can you see if this I go, wait, let me tune in first.
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I go, like you know, and then you tune in, and then you connect spiritually or whatever.
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But when we talk about the past life thing, what the inter interlife.
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Um I I totally believe that because I shared that with you one time where I had a past life regression, and sometimes they come in, like I remember things, and one time I saw my hands all hairy, and I was like, Whoa, I like I'm hairy, but I it's me still, you know, it's my my consciousness, yeah.
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It's my consciousness speaking, but I'm hairy.
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But I was helping this little boy, he was lost in the woods, and I guided him out to where the humans like the parking lot.
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I guided him out, and by the by his I say late late 1800s, just by his clothing.
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Um that's how I could date things, uh, by their clothing.
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And um, and I say about the late 1800s because he had those little boy, like those shorts with suspenders and yeah, the little suspenders, short pants.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So that's how he was clothed in a little white t-shirt, like came up here with the collar, like you know, and he was uh and he had those little hats on too, so and he had like an army cut haircut and really like short hair.
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And I remember I guided him out walking him through the path, and I guided him out to the parking lot, like park where um where there's people there.
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Well, that's a very significant memory.
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Yeah, certainly evidentiary of a lot of things, and you're so your your connection with these beings is is very close and very established, which is why you're you're doing this kind of work, and I think that we will be protected for the entire conference.
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Oh, yeah.
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And that there are going to be a number of sightings and much activity, and even you know, even other activity uh from um our ET friends.
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Yes, maybe star beings, the star people, the star people, the star people, uh, because that's our our creation story of uh where we come from, how they how that's how I like even after seeing my like my when my dad passed and asking him, where are you now, dad?
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And he showed me like he was with the council with the star people.
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Oh sitting at the round table, something like this, you know, and he was sitting there.
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And if my sisters are watching, they'll they'll know his position because that's the way he sits at when we play cards at the table, he's like that.
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And uh he's like just looking, looking at them, listening, and he's talking their language as well.
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Yeah.
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So it's really, really cool to see that when you have that ability to go to these different dimensions, and like I said, and we can, as humans.
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And everybody can.
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We have stopped, we have got to stop believing that we are we are so inferior and so apart from nature and creation.
00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:42.799
Yeah, we have to understand that we were born with all this capability, and it's contemporary life and other things that have made us dis disbelieve it.
00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:45.680
But um, well that is fantastic.
00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:59.519
Now, um along with the eat with the contact with with with Sasquatch, um have you been able to have contact with other beings that I might call elementals?
00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.960
Yes, like again with our culture we have the little people.
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And um even my mom, my late mom shared me stories when I was young, like she always shared stories with me that she played with them.
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And um because because of like what happened was going with our people, like we got disconnected because of the history of our people.
00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:26.079
But they're always there.
00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:38.480
I I always do have experience with them, um, just leaving candies out with like it we called offerings, so we or pennies, dimes, anything like that.
00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:39.519
We gift them.
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So it's part of our culture to gift them.
00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:58.960
And yes, um I do have some experience with the little people, um, plus hearing from my mom's stories that she shared with me when I was younger and and always asking questions as I I was growing up about these spiritual beings, right?
00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:10.799
And then um and then the little people they were helping us, they were living side by side, and they are too interdimensional as well.
00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:11.359
Oh, I see.
00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:16.799
Yeah, and they live in um they live in the forest into rocks and all that.
00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:37.119
So I'm gonna share with the first story where I went to Iowa about ten years ago, and at first, like um we were going on this trail and I was waiting for our friend there, and we were standing there, my sister and I, and w we heard like what we thought was an owl at that time.
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And I I um answered back.
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I said, ooh, ooh, like that, back.
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And then as soon as I did that, I looked on the ground, there was a feather.
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It was muddy as I picked it up, it was muddy and dirty, and all I did was like this, and it would it it became clean.
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And my sister was like, Whoa! I was like, Yeah, it Did you see that?
00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:06.559
It was like, did you see how dirty it was and all it just went like this and it just went clean?
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.559
It was like um it was on uh like an owl feather.
00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:11.519
Wow.
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And um so I um my sisters look around there anymore.
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I go, no, there's only one.
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I said, so so we went and um we went on the path and she she goes, which way do we she go?
00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:25.440
Let's go towards that sound.
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And that's when I um coming back, uh we seen signs like beds, and um, which I thought it was a deer, but then I looked and I go, No, it looks like two deer was at that time I didn't know, you know, like I thought it was two deer laying there.
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:46.079
But when we came back, that's when we saw a deer, he was like caught in headlights, like he was just like this.
00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:46.559
Yeah.
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:50.880
And I was like, oh my god, like why is he staring like that?
00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:56.160
And then I happened to look, and I thought it was my friend because she had long black hair.
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:58.559
I was like, what is she doing over there?
00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:00.559
Then I heard that voice, what do you see?
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And I looked, and I answering back and go, I know damn well what it is.
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:06.400
It was a Sasquatch.
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.960
And I looked and I started, okay.
00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:17.440
And I go, I turn around and look at my sisters, they're like when my friend, they're trying to take a picture of that deer, and I'm there trying to hurry them up.
00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:23.359
And I went around we're I ran around the kerb uh trying to make them come.
00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:30.079
And um, but they they were just trying to take a picture of that deer, and then I hear them laughing.
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:35.839
And I'm there like, man, that deer is gonna dart out of them and right at them.
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:42.160
And I could hear them laughing, but this and I go, wait a sec, that's not them laughing.
00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:49.759
I was looking around the curb and they're like still like they were trying to like take a picture, and then I told them, Come on, come on now.
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:59.759
And we came out and I told my sister, I said, You know, why these guys were so loud out there, these guys were laughing.
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And she goes, What?
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:02.559
We weren't laughing.
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And that's when I knew, oh okay, it was the little people, and there was they were there laughing.
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:14.400
And um so I told my sister, yeah, some I saw a Sasquatch out there.
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.839
She goes, I believe you.
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:20.160
And her pictures were all like um interference.
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.079
Oh, yes, yeah, all of them I've seen.
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:23.920
No, no clear picture of the deer at all.
00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:25.759
Yeah, they're all interference, yeah.
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:27.920
And so that's their the frequency, right?
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:28.880
So you know about that.
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:37.039
So absolutely we went around South Dakota after that, and then there's a little uh there's a mountain, yeah.
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Dakota territory.
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:44.079
Yeah, and then they have a site there where little people were were seen by even the settlers.
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.519
So so we seen that there.
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:55.039
We knew they were there, and then and then um, you know, plus my brother shared stories about them.
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:58.400
He thinks he cut one by accidentally doing yard work.
00:24:58.640 --> 00:24:58.960
Oh no.
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:10.400
Because he said he went like this, and then he saw blood coming and skirted out, like and I was like, he goes, Oh my god, Judy, like he told as he was telling me, he goes, I think I cut one of the little people.
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:16.480
And because I felt so bad because I saw an eye there at the fence, like in between the fence.
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.680
I saw an eye, like, you know, right close to the ground.
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:21.119
I I knew it was one of them.
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.799
So he he said he was sorry, and uh he apologized.
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:28.400
He didn't mean to cut him with the grass cutter there.
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:37.039
So that was uh, and then he saw him taking off uh on a little log, running up that log, and he was like running like this and jumped off that log like that.
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:42.720
And and um that was one story my my my sibling, my younger brother shared with me.
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:43.200
Wow.
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:53.039
And then of course, like driving just uh before the conference uh a couple summers ago, coming back from Thunder Bay, riding by Lake Superior.
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:59.440
Um there's an area um where I fasted.
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We do a fasting ceremony.
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:10.720
I fasted there maybe about 10 years before that, maybe 12 years before that, and I go, oh, this is the area where I fasted.
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:15.519
And there's a lot of spiritual things happening around there.
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:24.480
And then it was raining, and I was coming around the curb and I saw a little one of the little people.
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.440
He was on the side of the road and he was carrying a staff.
00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:32.160
He had um a big leaf, like covering like a ring coat.
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:46.000
Yeah, it was like a big leaf covering as like a raincoat, and he was and his little I remember like the little like um like almost like mucklecks where we tie their around the ankles, the the cap.
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:55.440
And then um he was walking with that little staff and he went walking, and I was coming around the curb and I seen this, and the rock opened up.
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.119
If people know about highway 17, there's big red rocks there.
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.039
So that rock opened up, and I could see it opening up.
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.640
I'm there driving, I'm there like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm seeing this.
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.160
And then he's like walking in and he walks into that rock.
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:16.240
Wow, and then he walked in there, and then after when he walked in there, the rock closed up.
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.000
So that was along Highway 17 by Lake Superior.
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:35.599
So that was my latest um little person experience, how they showed me, you know, because they're they know about the conference that we're doing, so all these beings are coming forward and saying, Yeah, we want to be part of us, don't don't forget us.
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:40.400
And then I added the word Wahctowin, meaning all spiritual beings.
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.480
Yes, we're all connected, yes.
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:46.480
So that's why I added the word Whaktoin on my second conference.
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:47.440
Yeah, that's wonderful.
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:56.880
And yes, we are going to be expanding, like even to like uh sharing like paranormal stuff as well, because a lot of things of that's happening too.
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:02.559
Yeah, my late grand um my great grandfather came down in 3D form.
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.920
That's the first time ever seen a spirit in 3D form.
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:06.640
I see it.
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:19.759
Yeah, often yeah, wow, yeah, he came down and he's talking to us and talking to me and stuff, and and uh I was looking, I was like, wow, what is an old man doing in the middle in the bush where we go blueberry picking?
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:27.519
And sure enough, my my aunt posted a picture of our great grandfather, and I go, Oh my god, that's him, there he was.
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:29.759
Like, well, that's some blueberry field.
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:30.960
Yeah, it is.
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:32.480
Oh my god, yes, it is.
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.200
It's a good, it's a good place to have like any kind of experience.
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:38.559
Any kind of experience.
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:47.200
Well, you know, the the acceptance of the little people is I cannot think of an indigenous culture that does not have that.
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.319
Even in Hawaii, they're called the Monahenies or something.
00:28:50.720 --> 00:29:05.599
And and you know, I I think we touch talked about this briefly amongst ourselves, but myself being Irish, I don't see there's not a huge difference between those indigenous people and the indigenous people of North America.
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.599
There is a deep connection.
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:22.799
There are clans, there are all kinds of nature-related things, and it's no surprise to me that the little people are just part of all that is over there.
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:24.559
They're just accepted.
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:29.920
And there are there are fairy circles and there are ways to enter the fairy circle.
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.039
You have to make a little offering and you have to ask permission.
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.720
So, and there are also uh vortexes.
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:47.279
There are people that have seen exactly what you're talking about, where the the little people either, you know, disappear when they walk into the woods or some or or a hole appears or something opens.
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:57.359
So there are there are uh there are vortices where they travel, you know, and um when they're physical, maybe they have under underground homes.
00:29:57.519 --> 00:29:57.759
Yeah.
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.799
I don't know, but uh that is fantastic.
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.680
And um what was I gonna say?
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:15.920
Well, you were deep in Lakota territory there in Iowa and South Dakota, and um and the relationship between Bigfoot and the Lakota people is very strong.
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.200
Oh yeah, and it's all the nations strong and ancient.
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:31.119
Every nation, the First Nations people in South and North America, even in South America, they all have um a connection with all of them.
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:35.200
The Maori people in Australia, the Yahweh, right?
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.319
I think it's what it's called.
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.279
They yeah, they're they're also deeply connected.
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.240
They are ancient, they are some of the most ancient people.
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:48.160
Because they are a race of people as well, like you know, this the the Bigfoot, I'm gonna say Sasquatch.
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:55.200
Um yeah, they are a nation of their own, like uh human yeah, with diversity.
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:55.759
Yes.
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.480
I mean, as I spoke with Mike a bit about that.
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:17.839
I mean, there are all these, you know, the Yeti in Nepal, you know, the there's there's many names and uh many locations, but they are they are the ancient people, yes, and uh what a beautiful thing to be connected with them in that way.
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:29.680
So now at the at the conference that's upcoming, uh boy, you've got a lot of interesting people on tap to, you know, to do wonderful spiritual things.
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:41.759
I can have a hardly wait, but you also will have the um the inclusion and the relationship between visual art because you're a very amazing and unique visual artist.
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:42.240
Thank you.
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.359
So my pleasure.
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:45.519
So that's going to also be incorporated.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:54.400
People will be able to come and see objects of art and and hopefully, you know, purchase different crafts and things that are that are being used.
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.400
Yes, my artwork is based on my experiences with them.
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.079
Um because Leslie, I never painted before.
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:08.640
I just started painting after that first that uh plan by the river.
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.000
Uh you know, yeah, my family members are artists.
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:12.880
There are a few of us.
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:21.200
I come from a large family of 13, so there are some artists there, my brother, my sisters, but you know, even swimmers too, when they were good swimmers.
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.440
And me, I wasn't the good swimmer, I wasn't the artist either.
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.240
Like I said in high school, my sister did my art art portfolio for me.
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:30.640
Yeah.
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.400
Because I couldn't draw nothing.
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.000
I had to hire someone.
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:34.880
Sorry.
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.200
Oh my god.
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.960
So that was a confession in high school.
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.759
I did my my sister did my art portfolio in grade nine art.
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.319
My boyfriend did mine, so there you go.
00:32:44.559 --> 00:33:12.720
So my first experience with them, with the clan out in Ottawa, um by the river, and um I for me, like I would I I I go out to the land to do ceremonies, uh pipe ceremony, making offerings and anything, ceremony, drumsing, whatever, or even just to release things, let go of things, cry if I have to, or laugh, or whatever I had I need to do to let go of things to um you know to heal.
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:24.640
So when I was out there doing a pipe ceremony, and my grandsons have their little pipes too, so I I keep them for them too, because they were younger then, but now they're getting older.
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:28.400
So anyway, um I had their little pipes as well.
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:38.000
And my friend and I were out there and doing a pipe ceremony, and then one was just right straight up straight across from me.
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:38.319
Wow.
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.759
And he was like this, he was going back and forth, well, fast and like as if he was trying to hide.
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.680
Oh and I'm there like you say, I can see you.
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.759
Same thing, like I can see you.
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:51.279
Why are you trying to hide?
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:57.599
You're I can see you, and I'm about to I'm I'm loading up my pipe, my tobacco, and I'm there like, I see you.
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:58.480
Why are you trying to hide?
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.440
Yeah, and I I did ask him, I have I have a pipe here.
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:04.079
Oh, yeah.
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:05.839
And my friend took the other pipe.
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.039
I had two small pipes, and I said, You could come smoke this pipe.
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:11.039
And this is where the mind speak came.
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:12.159
He said, Yeah.
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.239
He said, Oh, it's too small.
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.480
And I go, Okay.
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.119
And then he was still trying to hide, and they're like, Well, why are you hiding?
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.559
Like, why are you trying to hide for, I guess, to see you?
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:32.239
And then I said, uh and then I didn't hear anything, but I said to him, Okay, let's pray together.
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:36.559
And I raised my pipe at him and I said, I won't look at you then.
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:38.159
You know, I won't look at you.
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.199
But I raised my pipe and I said, Let's pray together.
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:44.880
And then um when I did that, he moved.
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.400
I didn't even see him move.
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.800
I didn't even see like the motion.
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:53.920
But next to no, he was here in a more fuller where the trees were.
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.559
It was more fuller where I couldn't really see him.
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.800
And then I I go, okay, just pray with me.
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.559
And then uh I lit my pipe and we started praying.
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.360
And then after that, he asked me, Can you bring us a big pipe?
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:10.719
I'm there, yeah, I can do that.
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.400
My girl, like, you know, I'm there like, oh yeah, I can do that.
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:26.559
And so my friend, he was in shock, you know, like after that, like um we just drove, I just drove him back home and he didn't say a word.
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.639
And all I said, did you see them?
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:29.440
Yep.
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:30.880
That's all he said to me.
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:36.800
I'm there like, and I knew I knew not to say anything better because I know he's in shock now, like he saw them.
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:45.760
And um, and I'm they're like, Wow, okay, I'm not like at least someone was there to see them with me when we were doing a pipe ceremony.
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.639
So my friend, she made a big repla replica pipe, like about this big.
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:58.639
She made it, and um, she also they also asked for a rattle, and then um, so she made a big rattle as well.
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:04.719
And so um my other friend, Jennifer, she's also a pipe carrier.
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:11.760
So I asked her, you want to she because she now she knows that I could see them, that they come around when I do ceremony.
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:12.639
She goes, Can I come out?
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:13.679
And I go, Yeah, sure.
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:18.159
We're gonna we're gonna call this, they're calling it a gifting ceremony.
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.440
So we're gonna gift them the pipe and the rattle.
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.280
And we're gonna do our pipe ceremony.
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:24.159
She goes, Okay.
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.760
So she was looking around like this, and I go, No, don't do that.
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.159
I said, just don't do that, just be you.
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.480
We're here to pray, we're here to gift them the pipe and the rattle.
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.079
Don't don't look for them.
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:43.039
Just be you, just be yourself when you're doing the pipe ceremony as you do normally with your pipe.
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:51.039
And she's okay, she goes, so she did, and sure enough they came, and that's when she got to see them as well.
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.360
So she got to see what that the young one.
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.400
I'll tell you his name in a minute because he didn't tell me his name after a while.
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:04.400
And then um after when we'd done the pipe ceremony, we could hear the rattle.
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.280
Oh, they were using it.
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:07.760
Yeah.
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:08.719
Oh boy.
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.039
So it was really nice to see that kind of interaction with them.
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:30.320
Um, you know, and and um so every time after that first time with the pipe ceremony, I I kept on going out every week doing a sacred fire, having a pipe ceremony, and then I could see them coming, like you know, and they use these three trees as a portal.
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:31.440
That's when they come through.
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.639
Oh, I see.
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.360
And then um because they could um levitate as well.
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:37.840
Yes.
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:39.360
Yes, they can levitate as well.
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:46.400
Because after that, we had so many experiences down there, and some of my friends say, Oh, Judy, um, you know, I need to do a sacred fire.
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:47.920
Can we go out and see your friends?
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:49.280
I go, yeah, sure.
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:55.440
And um, so this lady I bought, my friend, my childhood friend, I brought out there.
00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:02.480
I'm just gonna say that because you know, she's uh she wanted to do a ceremony of sacred fire, so we did.
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.000
And uh sure enough, we see that young one, the one that was hiding it.
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:16.320
He he was up there like 30, 40 feet up in the tree, and then he poked up his head and went down, and I said, Oh yeah, they're just acknowledging you when we drove out.
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.159
She said, Um, yeah, uh, were they were your friends there?
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.000
I go, Yeah, did you see him?
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.039
She goes, Yeah.
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.960
But she didn't want to say anything because I had another friend she didn't really know.
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.920
So yeah, so she texted me later.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.280
She goes, Yeah, I did see him.
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.920
He was like, he just popped his head up real fast.
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:34.400
Yeah.
00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:36.639
And I go, Yeah, they're acknowledging you.
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:50.000
And uh they were acknowledging you because of the ceremony that you were doing, and um and so we always have an experience out there, whoever take wherever take out.
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.360
So my friend, my other friend, she's like a seer.
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.440
She told me um, this is how the the event came to be.
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.559
Um she told me, uh, Judy, I see your art in an art gallery.
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.320
I go, you know what, we're Nishnaabig women, native women.
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:06.639
Yeah.
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:11.119
And um, why wait for an art gallery?
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.079
Let's do our own art exhibit.
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:14.639
Yes.
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:26.159
And at that time I was already painting them and my experience, and um, and she was an experienced art or artist, like she's been painting all her life, and when I should start showing my artwork, she's oh my god.
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.239
Can you tell you a beginner?
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:29.519
Well, no.
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:36.960
And and and I do an intuitive art, so I don't know if you heard that before, but it's an intuitive art where they come in and help me.
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:37.840
Yes, yes.
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.440
I get stuck.
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:48.320
There's intuitive music, there's there there we can accept influence from discarnate beings with any art form.
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:48.960
Yes.
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.519
Writing, my dad late dad was a writer.
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:56.639
I've heard him talk in my head and tell me how to get out out of a certain problem.
00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.840
So I completely believe that.
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.000
Yeah, well, it's intuitive art.
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:02.320
Okay.
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.639
I start painting, I I probably have about 15 pieces of artwork now.
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.599
Um, maybe more.
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:34.000
And these are experiences I have, and even when I was first talking to Mike, Mike Patterson, and his friend came in in the spiritual realm, and and it was Neff, and I could see him, and he's like, I'm there like, Mike, your friend's here.
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:34.159
Yeah.
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:40.639
And he's telling me that he he works with everybody, and he had a medicine wheel of the four colors of man.
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:47.679
And he was holding it, and he was like dancing like this, like like this, and they're like, and then he's like, Yeah, we work with everyone.
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:48.880
And I go, Yeah, I know.
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:54.320
I go so, and that's when I start asked, I asked Mike to be a guest speaker for the first conference.
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:55.280
Wonderful.
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.119
That's how we became to be, um, you know, when my friend told me that and said, Yeah, let's do this on our own.
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.760
Okay, she goes, Well, what are we gonna name it?
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.199
I go, Well, I was coming up with a name.
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:14.159
I was like, I go, um, I could hear this, I could hear this um something about healing.
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:22.480
And so I messaged my brother-in-law who's in fluent Cree, and I asked him, How do you say this in Cree?
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:23.679
How do you say that in Cree?
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:24.960
How do you say healing in Cree?
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.559
How do we say Bigfoot in Cree?
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:28.800
And then he's like, What are you trying to say?
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.400
I go, I don't know, something about Bigfoot uh and healing.
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.800
And then he said something real cool, eh?
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:36.880
He said in our language, and I go, Whoa.
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:37.360
That's it.
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.360
And I asked him, What does that mean?
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.679
And he said, Bigfoot will heal us.
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.280
And I go, okay.
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:50.960
He goes, Yeah, go out to your friends and um ask them if if this is the name.
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:58.320
So I went out and say it because I'm not fluent Cree, and they so it's hard for me to pronounce it.
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.199
And I go, so okay, okay, okay.
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:03.519
So I went out there and I asked them.
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.159
I go, is this the name of the conference that we're gonna name?
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.320
Oh, she's good, I know.
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:13.199
And the the young one and the mushem, I call him the mushem.
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.280
I used to call him the elder, but he then that's when the ta the mind speak comes in.
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.320
Oh no, I don't I don't like the word elder, you know where that word comes from, to where it divides from.
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:26.000
He goes, Call me Mushem, which means grandfather.
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:27.519
Oh, because he was a Mushem.
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:33.599
Oh you know, so so I asked him, okay, is this the name of the conference?
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:35.440
And they say, Yes, you named that.
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:41.119
Well then that's all the direction for the conference comes from has come from them.
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:42.800
And there will be healing.
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.280
Yes.
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.760
There will be a lot of physical healing too.
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:46.159
Yeah.
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:54.639
Um people with aches and pains and who knows what, MS, there's people we won't even know about it until later, but there's going to be healing.
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:55.760
I can feel it.
00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:07.840
And one thing I one thing I wanted to ask you before we is um speaking about other elementals, have you had an experience with some of these other diverse beings, like maybe dog man?
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.159
Oh yes, oh yeah, the dogman.
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:23.920
One of the pictures I sent Greg there was um there is a dog man in one of those pictures that just happened an hour about an hour ago, like 40 minutes coming here and um stopping by one of those parks and see a dogman there.
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:25.840
I do have an experience.
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.800
Um, this is um out by by Sudbury area.
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:32.159
It was on the reserve.
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.480
My um nephew's wife showed us uh where we could pick medicine.
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:42.079
And then they're up ahead of me, and I could feel something, right?
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:47.840
And I know it wasn't the sobby and the Sasquatch people, and I go, You're different.
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.159
And I'm looking around and you're different.
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:51.679
You you there's another different energy.
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.199
It's another energy, yeah.
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:58.159
And I go, you're different, and I don't know who you are yet, but I I know you're here.
00:43:58.400 --> 00:43:59.679
And then up ahead.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.480
My I could hear my brother-in-law, my nephew, and all that laughing, and like they're like, Whoa.
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:06.559
And then I came up, caught up to them.
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:13.760
They're like, Judy, look, and I looked, and there was like a big bark peeled out from the tree that was shaped like a sasquatch.
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:14.800
Oh wow.
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:23.760
Like the bark must have been about eight feet and it was peeled off the tree and it was shaped like a sasquatch.
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.639
And I'm there like whoa.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:28.239
I go, wow.
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.960
I go, that's pretty interesting.
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:36.800
So I so we got we found the root that uh my n my nephew's wife was looking for.
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:57.920
It was uh I think it was a water lily root, and uh so she found it, but I could feel them staring at us, and my sister and my brother-in-law went up back before us, and I stayed behind with them because you know, because I I know there's something out there that I need to bring in my protectors and to protect us.
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.840
And um so I could see I could feel that energy.
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.320
My niece was picking up the the medicine, so she got it.
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:17.360
And we were walking back and we saw this rear track, like a rear track, like it was like a hoof, almost like a hoof, but almost like a deer.
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:19.599
But it wasn't neither, like it was neither.
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.199
Yeah, and we didn't uh notice like it was fresh.
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:23.599
Yeah.
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.480
Because we were the only one on the on the on the trail.
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:34.000
And you could tell like we if you're a tracker, you know what what time the track is made, and it was just fresh, it was just right there.
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.920
And but we didn't see any other track with it.
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:39.679
It was just that one.
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.800
I go, whoa, this is okay, this is whatever this being is like interdimensional.
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.840
Yes, it just went one track and then back.
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:49.760
And then I could feel him.
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.239
I could feel someone staring at me.
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.719
And I looked, and sure enough, there was like a dog man like on the on the ground.
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.320
No, I could see his ears.
00:45:58.559 --> 00:45:58.800
Yeah.
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:05.760
So I took a picture and I took a picture of another side because I could feel them now, they're all around us, and then go, okay.
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.920
Are they shape changers?
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.320
No, they they're other beings.
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:18.239
Like, um, yeah, they're like they're like the they're like um the sa Sabe people, like the Sasquatch people, they're another beings.
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.519
Um they work with the Sasquatch people.
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:22.000
Okay.
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.360
They do work with them, and like I said, they hang around with them.
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:30.719
It's not like they're pets or anything, but they just another heal type of healing being healing beings.
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:31.199
Yeah.
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:32.000
All right.
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.119
They're like um almost like healers, but I don't really get that much.
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.400
They just show themselves and then I'm just starting to get to learn.
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:47.679
I think they're a little less obvious than you know, they're a little more reserved or or or fright frightened of us, you know.
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:53.280
Yeah, they're more um I they do want they do want to make a connection.
00:46:53.519 --> 00:47:16.880
And I think the ones that are are with the Sasquash people are the ones that are gonna be making that connection because because all of these um other beans are are with this the Sasquash people, like the star people, the fairies, and I've seen a lot of fairies like um, you know, even that time when we were making the video, like out there, like I saw fairy flew by Greg.
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.360
And you go, Greg, this is a fly by there.
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:19.840
Yeah.
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.719
And it starts, people can learn to see fairies.
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.199
You start to see perceive the little lights.
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:25.679
Yes.
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.480
And then after that you can see better.
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.320
But uh oh wonderful.
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:52.960
You know, Judy, I want to before we go, I just want you to tell everybody out there in in our uh broadcast land, not television land anymore, broadcast land, um, how to find out about the conference and the dates and any other um information you'd like them to know, how to reach you maybe or see your art or what have you.
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.960
Yeah, so I'm on Facebook.
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:56.719
I don't have a website yet.
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.840
Um, I do, but it's not live yet.
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.679
Um I'm working on it.
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.079
So I'm on Facebook under Sacney Art uh by Wachimadoan.
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.400
Watching the spirit name.
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:10.320
Uh my clan is Wolf Clan.
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.360
And uh even my name last name Sacney Arts.
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.280
Sacney means shapeshifter.
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:23.039
So that's another experience that I had with uh the shape shifter, where again ceremony, right?
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.719
My my my younger sister lost her son.
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:34.559
And I told her, We gotta we gotta do ceremony, we gotta put tobacco ties up, and then um we went out there.
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.760
I call it the Cedar Place, it's around Ottawa area.
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:46.960
Called the Cedar Place, and we went out there and and there's a shape shifter as a wolf, a big foot, and a deer.
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:49.280
So because I'm wolf clan.
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.000
Yeah, the wolf, and it happened so quick.
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:55.360
And she saw it too.
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:02.639
We we looked at each other, we go like ah like then we went running towards it where it happened and I asked her, What did you see?
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.280
And she goes, She goes, I saw him, the Bigfoot, and then the deer.
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:15.440
Because I was on this side, or I go, I saw the wolf, him, and he was um halfway into the dimension, right?
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:16.639
Like they were shifting.
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:17.519
Yeah, they were shifting.
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:24.159
Yeah, so it's like um you ever see the speed when an object goes and they leave that trail trail.
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:24.880
Yeah, it's like that.
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:25.920
So that's what it was.
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:34.000
He left the trail because half of him was physical and half of him was like the shape shifting from the wolf to him.
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:35.440
Wow, and then the deer.
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:45.199
And then we when we arrived at the spot, that's all we saw was one track, one wolf track, one big foot track, and one deer track.
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:45.920
Wow.
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:53.280
And um so there's a meaning when we see these beings, there's always a teaching and a meaning to to that.
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:54.400
I believe that.
00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:05.760
Yes, because my sister, because she lost her son, the deer represents family, love, and that's what we're doing, honoring and the healer, the bigfoot.
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.199
And then, of course, me, the wolf clan, seeing the wolf, right?
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:16.719
The leader of the wolf pack, and and like that's my son's spirit name, by the way, leader of the wolf pack.
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:17.760
Yeah.
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:22.480
Um my dad just called me leader of the pack.
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:24.400
Yeah, he's so anyway.
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.239
I just thought I had to add that there.
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:28.320
But seeing that shape shifter.
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:32.159
So at the event, we're gonna be connecting with them.
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:38.400
We choose uh this year was directed to go out in the land because there's uh the clan up there.
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.280
So the clans all know that we're gonna be taking place in this event.
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.639
Uh, because my dad's passing, I moved the event to August.
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.760
Yes, it's August 28th, 29th, and 30th.
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:50.559
And 30th.
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.639
Experience the Bigfoot will heal us.
00:50:55.679 --> 00:51:02.559
Fourth annual conference and healing campout, presented by SACNE Arts and co-hosted by Field of Consciousness.
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:09.360
From August 28th to August 30th, 2026, in the beautiful region of Ontario.
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:11.679
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00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:20.880
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00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:32.400
Engage with Sasquatch clans through live interactions led by traditional healer Judy Sackney and Ian Snyder, a friend of a Sasquatch clan, including many guest speakers.
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:41.119
Sean Horris, Mike Fastien, Remote Viewer, Tyler Scott, Mike Patterson, Sasquatch researcher, and contactee.
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:48.639
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00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:54.400
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00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:59.599
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00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.440
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00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:07.840
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00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:13.440
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00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:23.360
So it's gonna be out in the land uh by Karawata Lakes.
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:30.400
Uh we can't uh reveal the address yet, the physical address, because uh just um respect to the property owner.
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:30.800
Right.
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:40.800
Because he doesn't want like you know, those kind of people going around his property and creeping them out and stuff like that and thinking that they're gonna see Bigfoot there, like you know, but um so just respect.
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:57.280
But the people that respond and say that they will be coming, uh they'll get a more detailed package and I have a detailed information of hotels around the area, okay, um, campsites around the area if they or they could just come during the day if they're not camping.
00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:59.519
And it's gonna be rough camping.
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:06.719
We're trying to get showers and things like that, but I am having like the nice bathrooms, not the port of parties.
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:18.079
You know, so yeah, so even like I I am thinking of the comfort of there, because you know, we're gonna be out in the land and um it's gonna be pretty rough because um we're working on the showers right now.
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.679
We're looking for showers there because it is rough camping.
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:29.119
And um it's gonna be out in about two acres, two acres of land out there on my friend's property.
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:29.840
Beautiful.
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.320
And we're gonna be connecting with the clans out there.
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:33.920
There is a clan up there.
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.440
His his name is um Trulu.
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.519
True, something like that.
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.719
And his clan is out that area.
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:48.159
So all the other clans know that the conference will be there, they're gonna be there.
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:50.559
And Neff knows, you know he does.
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:51.920
Yes, he knows everything.
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:52.639
Yes, oh.
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:59.599
Yeah, they're all connected, they they all know each other, they all know who we are, and even the speakers that are will be there.
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.480
So they all know that we're coming and what we're gonna be doing.
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.519
And and I find this is the disclosure.
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:06.320
Yes, people.
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This is how it's it's a grassroots movement.
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Yes, it's a grassroots movement.
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That is how the cl disclosure of wonderful etheric beings, ETs, all of it is happening as a grassroots movement.
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We know that.
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And it's about healing and raising your frequency, vibration, and that's right.
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And that's what we're gonna do to help people to see them.
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We're gonna use tools.
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People can bring their own tools as well, like dowsing rods, or um, those pendulums, and uh, or even like those other tools there.
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My friend's gonna bring some other tools as well.
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There's the the spirit box, I think.
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Oh, the spirit box is a good thing.
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Oh my god, I love that.
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Yeah, the spirit box is great.
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So we'll have a lot of fun.
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Yes, I'm really looking forward to it.
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So the the 27th, 28th, 29th, and if people would like to of August, and if people would like to get more information or or reach out to you, you are on Facebook Judith Sakney.
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Yeah, um, Sacney Art and Judy Sacney, and also have this the other page, watching with Doan, because at that time I had to, it was like uh I didn't really know how to make Facebook pages or whatever.
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My friend did that.
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So we um created that page, and then um they could contact me by SakneyArt at gmail.com.
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Oh, wonderful.
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And they'll get more detailed information through that.
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Judy, thank you so much for coming and joining me today.
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It's been a wonderful conversation, and as I said, God bless you during the You're a Midwife of Disclosure.
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Yeah, that's like we all that's the title of my next book, by the way.
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Oh, isn't it?
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Yeah, midwives of disclosure.
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That's right.
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And they can be men or women, it doesn't matter.
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So oh yeah, wait till you meet the other guest speakers that have become we got Sean Orrest coming from Wisconsin, Ian uh Snyder from New York State, fantastic Mike, Mike, um Mike Bastin, I think too A.
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Mike Bastin, yeah.
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Um who else?
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You yeah, yes.
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I can't wait.
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Everyone's getting excited.
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My friend Johanna, she's a sear medium.
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Uh, she'll be doing psychic readings, and I'll I will also do um cedar tea leaf readings.
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One of the things.
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It's like tea leaf readings, but it's like, yeah, I can't wait.
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I know, me too.
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All right, my dear.
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Well, listen, you take good care.
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You're doing the amazing work.
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I'm so excited for everything that's going on, and uh, we will be there with uh bell's on.
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Yes, okay.
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Thank you to be grudged for having me here.
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It's nice meeting you too.
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Thank you, Judy.
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Take good care now.
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We are not alone.
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