Diego Luna

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How was school today?
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Ah, you know, football training, lunch with the lads.
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Oh, and I have that art project to finish.
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Okay.
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Wait a second.
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I need to put these things on. You all look
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really cool and professional. Yeah.
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I'm part of the franchise.
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Star Wars franchise.
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Okay.
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Hi. My name is Diego Luna. And I feel... Oh,
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damn it. I feel... I have to say I feel
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really comfortable.
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Oh, good.
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About being... Conan O'Brien's friend.
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Thank you.
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I feel very safe.
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Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.
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I'm joined by Sona Movsesian, Matt Gourley. Nice to see
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you folks.
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Why'd you pause?
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I paused because I was thinking and then I thought, yeah,
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it is nice to see you. Sona, you're having a
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bit of an issue today. You had a bit of
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a spill and this is a common problem for you.
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Is it not?
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It's a common problem.
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You're a spiller. I am. You know what? Before I
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get angry. You know what I love? You always say, what?
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And then immediately say, yes.
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I know.
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I know.
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Because you are right. I do spill on myself a lot.
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And I have to be more aware of it because
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this is filmed. But earlier today, I had a dish
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with pesto and I spilled it all over.
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Oh, I see it.
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Yeah. Do you?
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Yeah.
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It's right there. How did you try to get it out?
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With a Tide stick. Shout out Tide.
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Well, not shout out Tide because I don't think it worked. Well,
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you used the Tide pesto stick. Yeah, it's got to
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be specifically Tide Pesto.
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I really got it in. And then it was wet
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for a really long time. They were like two wet spots.
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And then I thought, oh, when it dries, maybe it'll
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be cleared up.
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And it's not. And it's bothering me.
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That's got to go to it.
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Isn't it? Boy.
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And can I say, I've known you quite a while, Sona.
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And you have been traditionally a spiller.
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I'm a sloppy eater.
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Yes.
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Oh, wow.
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Well, you are.
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Who else is a sloppy eater? You are a sloppy eater.
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I don't spell on myself, though. I always wear a
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giant bib. And I say goo-goo-ga-ga when I'm eating.
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And I have to feed you.
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And you have to feed me. And why do I
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wear a bonnet when I eat? And I kick my
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feet up in the air in little booties.
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Yeah, and you're sitting in a high chair.
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I often doze off, and then you put me right
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in the crib. Sona, why? It's just something I used
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to request. And you went along with it.
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I want out.
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Six foot four baby needs to go to bed bed. Look,
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we all have our fetishes.
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That was mine.
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What are you going to do in the future to
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avoid these spills? Nothing.
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It's just a part of my life. It's like something
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I know about myself.
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And I think I need to carry more Tide sticks.
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Shout out Tide.
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Well, or something that's going to work. Did the Tide
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stick work, do you think? No. Okay. Well then why
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do you want more of them sent this way? And
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maybe they just need to work on their formula or
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maybe Tide's going to say, look, we're a good product,
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but there's nothing we can do with Sona Mosessi. Like
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that's not fair. Like that's not fair.
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You know, we're a good sponge.
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But you just threw us in the Pacific and you're
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bitching that it's still, the Pacific is still there. So
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I'm going to say Tide. I bet you're a great
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product because I can almost not see it. And it's
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Sonam Obsession. Yeah, really. Good work, Tide.
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I have a lot of them all over the place.
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Sometimes they.
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What, Tide sticks? Yeah, I do. Oh, so you're like
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someone who hides knives around the house. Only for you,
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it's Tide sticks.
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What do you mean?
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You know what people do when they hide weapons in movies,
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when people have secreted weapons and guns around the room?
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That's you, except it's all cleaning sticks. Yeah, it is.
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But when you have a three-year-old, I'm the same way.
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Your clothes are constantly covered in food from your kids,
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you know?
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Yeah, it's from the kids.
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Yeah.
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Oh, wait a minute. Uh-oh.
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No, it's from me.
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Oh, wow.
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Do you often get food on your kids? They're very clean.
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They're very tidy.
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They're very clean.
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You have three-and-a-half-year-olds who are always wearing little white tuxedos
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and very fastidious about their eating habits.
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Yeah.
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And you're like, hey, guys, this burrito's good. The mama's blah.
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Yeah.
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Mommy, mommy, our white tuxedos.
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You know I love eating. I love eating and I'm
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a shoveler into my mouth. And so it just sometimes
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it spills on me and that's okay.
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You know what I love?
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It's an expression of joy.
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I love that you love eating. I eat quickly. I
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unhinge my mouth, get it in and swallow it. And
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I don't enjoy it.
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You have to enjoy it. I know, but will you
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agree that.
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It's just, I've got to get rid of that. I'm
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getting better, but that just get to the grave mentality.
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Get this food in and then get to bed and blah.
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I like, you know, for me, it's like, I swear,
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I feel like after every bite, sometimes I can hear
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in my brain going, mm, mm, mm, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
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That's nice.
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And then I'll do it again and I'll be like, mm, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
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You know, I can tell when Sona's liking her food
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is that she'll have a knife and fork and if
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she's really liking it, she conducts a little bit while
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she's chomping. She does. She's like, mm, and then I
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can see her, I've seen her conducting an orchestra that's
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not there.
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I do.
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Because she's really liking her food. You do that. I
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really do that. People in cartoons do that. That's nice.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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You should be more like me.
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I should.
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You know what?
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You should aspire to love the food you eat as
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much as I love my food.
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And love life. Yeah, I do love life. As much
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as you do. You're a Zorba.
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But yeah, okay.
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All right.
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No, you are. You're Zorba the Armenian.
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Okay.
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Also quarter Greek. And also quarter Greek. You're Zorba the
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quarter Greek.
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I think, and you get to like eat such delicious food.
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I feel like, okay.
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All right.
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Nevermind.
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Whenever the waiter brings it over, I'm like, let's just,
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he starts to say, now let me tell you what
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we did with the food. And I'm like, let's get
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it in me.
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Grave waiting.
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Sir, what we do here, it's very beautiful.
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We infuse the olives.
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Yeah.
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Just push it in the hole and open the casket
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and shut it.
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Oh my God.
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So someone else can live. I want to give up
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my spot.
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That's me.
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I don't know what my problem is, but that's always
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been me.
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From now on, in your head, just go yum, yum, yum, yum.
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Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Conducting, conducting an orchestra
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that isn't there. What about you, girl? You seem like
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someone who can live. You live life. You enjoy it.
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You know, I'm more like, I mean, either more like you,
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but lately I've been more like you, but I wish
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I could say it was because it's like, ah, life.
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It's more stress. I'm like finding in my 20s, it
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was weed. 40s was alcohol and 50s is food.
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It's how I cope.
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Kind of like I've used up all those other ones,
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you know? So now I love food.
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Yeah.
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But it's like a stress coping mechanism.
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You skipped heroin.
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That's my 60s. Heroin in your 60s. Never a bad idea.
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This message brought to you by.
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Yesterday, I was having lunch with my friend and I
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had to come here for the.
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Got to come here.
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I had to come here. And I had a piece.
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There was a piece of sourdough on the table and
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I was like, should I take it with me?
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And then I did.
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And I just came here just shoving a giant thing,
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slice of sourdough in my face.
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So you walked down the street holding the sourdough that
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you had taken from the table.
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Just to shit.
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Huge slice of sourdough.
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And I was like, is this a normal thing to
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do to just eat a giant piece of bread?
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That's kind of Parisian, you know?
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Yeah, exactly. You were walking along the banks of the
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Seine here in Larchmont. Yeah. And there was someone, did
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you pass an old man playing the accordion?
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No.
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Yeah.
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Could you pass a painter painting a nice landscape? How
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about a mime?
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A mime?
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Yeah.
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We went too far. Yeah. A lot of stereotypes. Well, anyway,
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I'm going to try, I do think I should try
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and be more like you, even if it means the
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occasional spill. Enjoy life, live life, tied. It's the stick
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that can help anyone but Sona. My guest today has
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starred in such movies as Y Tu Mama Tambien and
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Rogue One, a Star Wars story. You can also see
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him in season two of the hit Disney Plus series, Andor.
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I love Andor. I know you're a fan too, Matt.
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Yes, sir.
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I'm thrilled he's here today. Diego Luna, welcome. You feel
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safe being with me.
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Being your friend.
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Yes, being my friend.
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I mean, I can use that, right?
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Yeah.
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I've been using it.
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To get into places, to get away with doing things
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that are dodgy, you know? I go like, oh, but
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I'm Conan's friend. And they go like, oh, of course,
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now we get it.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay.
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Like, I'm glad that my name creates that much of
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a sense of protection for you.
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Yes.
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You live, we were just talking before we began that
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you live in Mexico City and in the South, or
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as I say, El Sur.
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El Sur, claro.
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Sí, claro. Por favor, claro. español perfectamente.
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Oh, my.
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Listen. Oh, God. Here's the great dynamic.
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Eduardo.
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Eduardo. Eduardo, our sound.
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It's not Eduardo. It's Eduardo.
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Eduardo.
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Eduardo.
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Eduardo.
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Eduardo is in a constant hell of me pretending that
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I am fluent in Spanish and understand the culture and
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that maybe I'm from Central America or Mexico. You look it.
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I look it.
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You can blend right in.
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And then you immediately bonded with Eduardo because of the pain.
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As soon as we arrived to a place, you know,
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as soon as you get into a place and someone
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speaks Spanish, you go like, oh, okay. I'm comfortable now.
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I mean, he's going to protect me.
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Well, that's why you're comfortable being his friend. Obviously, yeah.
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But what about when someone like me butchers it in
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a well-intentioned way?
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It's very, I mean, it makes me feel like, yeah,
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like I've done something good in my life, you know,
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that I get to witness you trying so hard. Because,
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you know, like the first times I went to your show...
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It's you. I mean, I'm freaking out always before going
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in there. Oh.
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Yes.
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Just because I'm so scary. I'm tall, very, very white. Well, yeah.
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And you have an audience and they laugh, you know,
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to what you say.
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Or they're punished.
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Or they're punished. No one pays them. So they laugh
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at what you say and that makes everything you say
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be so like. So then you're freaking out. So it's
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kind of nice to see you now freaking out trying
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to speak another language.
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Yes, yes.
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Well, you did a, you and I have a bond,
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which is very important to me.
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Yes.
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Which is many years ago during the first Trump administration,
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my staff and I, when we were doing the show
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at TBS and you were part of the Sona.
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I was.
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We worked it out with Televisa and we did a
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show from Mexico City and you were a guest there.
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And it was really a beautiful thing. I loved doing
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that show. I did a monologue en espanol and got
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through it. And the audience actually kind of laughed. It's
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sort of the right places. And I think there was
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some pity there. Oh, he's trying.
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He's trying.
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He's really trying.
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They were all televisactors.
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Yeah.
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All the people from the telenovelas were sitting there. Didn't
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they look extra cute?
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They were so beautiful.
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Yeah.
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I did. But you came on the show.
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No, you did amazing. I just want to make sure
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people understand. You really put yourself there, which was something
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like it needed guts. It was like a big risk
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and a lot of fun to see you really going
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for it.
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Well, you know what was fun is Vicente Fox.
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Yeah.
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The former president of Mexico came on the show and
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I still they're in my office. He gave me these boots.
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Holy crap.
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Which say no, no fucking wall. And they put my
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name on them. And, um, they're fantastic. They're fantastic boots.
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He found out my size.
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He does good boots, I guess. That's what, that's what
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he does good.
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His main contribution, I think, as the president was he,
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he made good boots.
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I'm sure he charged someone for those boots. I mean,
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they might be a gift.
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To you, but not, no, somebody had to pay for that. Um,
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you know, we were talking earlier about, uh, we did
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that show. And it was a very special time. And
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we thought, well, those times those times ended. Yeah. And
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now in some ways it those in some ways those
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times have returned with a vengeance. And I know you
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touched on it a little bit when you first started
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talking about how you feel safe being here. And these
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are tricky times, but it is. And, you know, we're
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not the most political podcast. We're really not a political
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podcast at all. But you have we have to address
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the fact that Um, you and I had this really
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special time in this special moment during that first administration.
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And then many of us thought that we were moving
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past that to maybe, uh, a better future. And, uh,
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here we are again.
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Yeah.
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History repeats and better and reloaded kind of thing.
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No. Yeah.
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It's, I don't know.
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I'm, I'm, I'm shocked, uh, on, on, yeah. on, on
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many things of, of what we're witnessing these days. And, uh, I, the,
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I think the, the best way to, to talk about
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this is, uh, I don't think I can fully understand what, uh,
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some part of the community, the Hispanic community in this
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country are going through, you know, the, the fear and the,
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it's like, I can't imagine. I mean, how that is,
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you know, that you dedicate your life, work, Uh, to,
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to build something and suddenly they tell you they're going
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to take that away from you instantly, just, just because
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of it. It's just, it's quite scary.
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Yeah.
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Scary times.
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It's also, uh, just pointing out that we, I've been
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living in Los Angeles for many years. Um, and Matt
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and Sony from Los Angeles. Um, but you live here
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in Los Angeles and everybody. Everybody I work with, everybody
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who works with me, everybody who helps me in any
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way or helps my family in any way with, you know,
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everything that needs to be done with our house. There's no,
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in every way, every day, I'm working with people who
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are from Mexico or Central America or South America. They
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are such a vital, they are the community in Los Angeles.
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That just feels like it's such a, they're doing all
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the work.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which is really powerful to see every day. And I
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have empathy because if you're paying attention, you understand that
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it feels like 80% of what's getting done here to
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sustain our lives and our culture and our community is
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coming from south of the border. So- I didn't mean
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for things to get this heavy this quickly, because you're
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such a funny guy. But I think I just had
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a little bit of a flashback to the times we've
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spoken before. And I know that this is very important
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to you and you're a very proud and vocal member
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of your community. And so it's meaningful to me that
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you're here today because I've been thinking about it a
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lot lately and I was very happy you're coming. And
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it meant so much to me that you did our
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show in Mexico city. And I, I consider you a
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very special friend for that reason.
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I consider you a special friend too. And I, I
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was very disappointed to hear that, uh, because every time
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I have to come and promote something, I always go like,
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can we go to Conan?
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Mm-hmm.
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And I'm glad we're here.
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You're creating the impression that people say, no, no.
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Well, it's just that you don't have a show anymore.
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That would not be a good move for you.
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Diego, we're trying to build up your career and it's
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really going great for you. Conan's the wrong move at
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this time. No, you're always welcome here.
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I love that now you have this new format. I
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love it. Uh, and, uh, And it's good we started
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like that. It's good we said it because it's important.
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You cannot come to this country. You cannot come to California.
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You can not be in front of a microphone and
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not say something about that situation, what this community is
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going through and the amount of support and help they
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need these days. They need you to show up. So
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that you dedicate some space for that means a lot. Uh,
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and it's a good example of what people should be
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doing with microphones these days. Um, you know, that being said,
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I do miss you having a, uh, a show on
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TV because, uh, now I can't go there when I
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have something to promote.
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Well, you can come here and, uh, also I do
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a travel show now for Mac. So maybe we'll go someplace.
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Oh, can we travel together?
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Oh, you know, we just did a new season is
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starting in a few days and, um, Javier Bardem, uh,
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did a whole episode with me in Madrid. And we're
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total idiots, lunatics. It was really fun and silly. He's
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a fun guy. He is a really fun guy. And
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I'm thinking you and I will find a way to
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go And do it. I mean, you did do a
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travel show with me because that was the Mexico City show.
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But in this new HBO Max format, it would be
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really fun to do something with you. So we'll do it.
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I would love to.
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I'm going to bring you to Northern Ireland. Where you'll
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feel right at home.
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Well, I'll tell you one thing. You're not going to
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believe it, but I am half Scottish.
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I did know that. I did know that.
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My mom was born in Scotland and Scottish family. I
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have a big British family and I have never done
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I've never traveled through Scotland looking for my roots. Oh,
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this is perfect.
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Oh, wait a minute. This is perfect because... And now
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I have to pay you for the idea.
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I did have the idea, right? Eduardo, you got it, right?
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You got my back, man.
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Gracias.
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Eduardo.
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Eduardo.
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Por favor.¿ Cómo se dice edit?
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I wonder what the word could be.
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Music I was reading about your family. I know your mom,
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you lost your mom at a very early age. And
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your father, this fascinates me, your father was a set
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designer for everything, for theater, for opera, for movies, anything.
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And so you grew up, it's no accident. I mean,
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I'm sure it's part of it. You're extremely talented, obviously,
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but you grew up in a house where your dad
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would be building sets in the house that had to
505
00:21:58.619 --> 00:22:03.130
inform your sense that, Oh, life is magical and mysterious.
506
00:22:03.210 --> 00:22:06.009
And there was different, my dad is building weird sets
507
00:22:06.069 --> 00:22:09.130
for operas in the house that would maybe think, make
508
00:22:09.150 --> 00:22:11.029
you think this is a world I could inhabit.
509
00:22:11.369 --> 00:22:14.910
Definitely. And I saw things go from like a quick
510
00:22:14.930 --> 00:22:18.599
drawing to like a model thing to then suddenly like
511
00:22:19.099 --> 00:22:23.380
a gigantic set, you know, uh, there's a, There is
512
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.339
a film called Santa Sangre. And I was very young.
513
00:22:26.380 --> 00:22:29.160
That's why I remember Santa Sangre, because it made a
514
00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:35.170
huge impact. It's a Khodorovsky film. And my father was
515
00:22:35.230 --> 00:22:40.269
working there as the art director. And there's this moment
516
00:22:40.309 --> 00:22:46.180
where an elephant dies, you know. And I was with
517
00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.019
half of the head of the elephant and the trunk.
518
00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:51.660
You call them trunks?
519
00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:52.240
Trunk.
520
00:22:52.460 --> 00:22:53.220
Trunk. Yeah.
521
00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:53.559
Trunk.
522
00:22:53.900 --> 00:22:54.200
Trunk.
523
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:54.799
Oh, good.
524
00:22:55.099 --> 00:22:57.799
I just said Trump, right?
525
00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:04.319
He's the other end of the elephant. Cut to 1930s
526
00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:09.859
audience applauding. Very well done, Matt. Very well done.
527
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.619
I'm sorry. I'm sorry to bring that. I wasn't trying.
528
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:17.809
So and because the thing there's a moment where blood
529
00:23:17.849 --> 00:23:18.900
is coming out of the trunk.
530
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:19.509
Yeah.
531
00:23:19.910 --> 00:23:21.910
And, uh, so I, but I had the piece of
532
00:23:21.990 --> 00:23:24.970
the prop, the gigantic thing in my, in my living
533
00:23:25.049 --> 00:23:28.430
room for months, you know, I was interacting with that thing.
534
00:23:28.490 --> 00:23:33.779
It's like the sandworm from Dune. Well, that's Jodorowsky as well, Dune. Yeah.
535
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:38.859
Well, exactly. Uh, so it's, um, it's, uh, it was quite,
536
00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:42.099
quite a thing. And, and my father at the same time,
537
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.509
because you always, everything you do somehow at that age
538
00:23:45.589 --> 00:23:47.509
is to piss off your parents.
539
00:23:47.569 --> 00:23:47.789
Yes. Yeah.
540
00:23:48.769 --> 00:23:52.609
So my father, like he, he, he loves actors and
541
00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:55.339
he works for actors to suddenly use his sets, but
542
00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:58.799
he always complains about what they do, you know? He
543
00:23:58.819 --> 00:24:00.839
would always say like, oh, the actor never gets in
544
00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:02.740
the light where, you know, I put a light here
545
00:24:02.809 --> 00:24:05.089
and he stands there. Then I move the light and
546
00:24:05.130 --> 00:24:09.809
he's in the other side or like... These damn actors.
547
00:24:10.009 --> 00:24:12.750
These damn actors don't know how to use the ramp
548
00:24:12.829 --> 00:24:16.589
in the theater or blah, blah, blah. So I decided
549
00:24:16.650 --> 00:24:18.549
to become an actor also to piss him off.
550
00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:22.359
And then intentionally stand in the wrong spot.
551
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:27.079
Exactly, exactly. But yes, it was... And to be honest,
552
00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:29.690
it was more... I never had like the moment where
553
00:24:29.730 --> 00:24:31.450
I went like, oh, I want to, I want to
554
00:24:31.529 --> 00:24:34.470
be an actor because of what happens. It was just
555
00:24:34.569 --> 00:24:37.880
about being part of his world and make sure no
556
00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:40.960
one would take him away from me, you know, like, and, and,
557
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:43.720
and also because school was boring and it was nice
558
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:47.059
to feel I could be around adults that were acting
559
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.500
like kids, you know, that's, that's what theater represented for me.
560
00:24:50.539 --> 00:24:53.539
Like these adults are, are much more fun than the
561
00:24:53.619 --> 00:24:58.319
kids in school. These adults are, And these crazy adults
562
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:02.450
pretending to be someone else telling stories, playing games, like
563
00:25:02.809 --> 00:25:05.289
spending all day in this fantasy world.
564
00:25:05.430 --> 00:25:07.750
It's like that old idea of running away with the circus.
565
00:25:08.009 --> 00:25:08.230
Yeah.
566
00:25:08.410 --> 00:25:13.789
There's a, my reaction to getting into comedy. And when
567
00:25:13.829 --> 00:25:17.200
I was 18, 19 and seriously thinking about it was,
568
00:25:17.220 --> 00:25:21.700
wait a minute, this can be a job. I just
569
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.710
assumed that. That I, my job had to be something
570
00:25:24.750 --> 00:25:27.710
that I hated that, you know, I have to go
571
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.039
and do something serious and it's going to be something
572
00:25:30.099 --> 00:25:31.680
I hate, but then I can be fun with my
573
00:25:31.740 --> 00:25:34.779
friends and my family when I go home. Yeah. And
574
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:39.980
the idea that, that this could be a profession was
575
00:25:40.180 --> 00:25:44.500
insane to me because I'm from Boston, Massachusetts. Nobody's doing that.
576
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.250
It was a very strange feeling, but I know that
577
00:25:47.329 --> 00:25:50.089
idea that, well, of course I'd rather do this than
578
00:25:50.130 --> 00:25:53.569
go to school. or memorize something or take a test.
579
00:25:53.809 --> 00:25:56.309
And also it's, it's a family that shares a passion
580
00:25:56.549 --> 00:25:59.130
and that is like such a difficult thing to find,
581
00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:03.200
you know, imagine a Christmas dinner where everyone talks about
582
00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:05.779
something that matters to the other, you know, because Christmas
583
00:26:05.859 --> 00:26:08.619
are like, Oh my God, here, the uncle, the drunk
584
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:09.519
uncle again.
585
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:10.119
Oh shit.
586
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.660
Now he's going to tell the story of, but imagine
587
00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:15.059
you care about what they're talking about and you really
588
00:26:15.099 --> 00:26:17.619
want to be around that gang. And that's how it
589
00:26:17.700 --> 00:26:23.269
feels in, in these communities, you know, uh, Also, my
590
00:26:23.309 --> 00:26:25.450
mom passed away when I was two years old, but
591
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:28.099
she was a costume designer and a painter and she
592
00:26:28.150 --> 00:26:31.539
worked with half of the people I grew up working with.
593
00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:35.079
So on a way, it was her love stories that
594
00:26:35.180 --> 00:26:37.859
were around me, you know, and all these people trying
595
00:26:37.940 --> 00:26:41.339
to be their best because they knew my mom wasn't around.
596
00:26:41.660 --> 00:26:44.539
So suddenly everyone like was like feeling for my mom,
597
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.609
you know, somehow I got all these comments. crazy, interesting mothers,
598
00:26:48.670 --> 00:26:55.390
you know, that were like directors or designers. And they
599
00:26:55.430 --> 00:26:59.769
were all like very into making my life nice and
600
00:26:59.829 --> 00:27:02.390
easy and fun. And it was, it was the best.
601
00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:06.029
You've said that you had a real connection, uh, with
602
00:27:06.109 --> 00:27:09.970
women always. And this, what you're saying may have been
603
00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:13.740
the introduction to it, but that women would. Befriend you
604
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:18.019
and confide in you and trust you. And you were
605
00:27:18.059 --> 00:27:19.960
that guy growing up.
606
00:27:20.309 --> 00:27:20.589
Oh, yeah.
607
00:27:20.849 --> 00:27:23.150
Which sometimes I was that way a little bit. And
608
00:27:23.170 --> 00:27:25.589
I would take it a little bit of as an insult.
609
00:27:26.589 --> 00:27:28.970
You know, Conan, we don't see you as a sexual threat.
610
00:27:29.390 --> 00:27:29.609
Yes.
611
00:27:29.690 --> 00:27:33.140
You don't even seem like a man to us. So, um,
612
00:27:33.420 --> 00:27:36.660
we're very comfortable. I'll braid your hair, you braid mine,
613
00:27:37.539 --> 00:27:39.259
and we'll tell you all our secrets. And there was
614
00:27:39.299 --> 00:27:42.160
a time there where I thought this is, this is, uh, insulting,
615
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:43.400
but I'm still happy.
616
00:27:43.789 --> 00:27:48.789
Yes. No, I never felt I was being insulted. And
617
00:27:48.849 --> 00:27:54.390
I do, I do connect with that. Definitely. Yeah. Uh, yes, yes. And,
618
00:27:54.549 --> 00:27:57.700
and always also there was stories you could tell, no,
619
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:01.329
I mean, uh, because I was having a, uh, a
620
00:28:01.410 --> 00:28:05.069
life that no other kid was having. So I could
621
00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:09.130
talk to you about stuff no one else could. So
622
00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:12.400
it was fun, I guess. That's a nice way in.
623
00:28:12.450 --> 00:28:16.910
But then it's quite frustrating to have to go back
624
00:28:16.970 --> 00:28:20.690
home and say like, oh no, she's now with a boyfriend.
625
00:28:20.750 --> 00:28:20.950
Yeah.
626
00:28:21.369 --> 00:28:23.329
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
627
00:28:23.349 --> 00:28:25.410
We have this great deep connection, but she doesn't see
628
00:28:25.430 --> 00:28:28.109
me that way. She's with this other guy. That happened
629
00:28:28.130 --> 00:28:31.940
to me. Like from, yeah. Like for a year or
630
00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:32.599
two of my life.
631
00:28:32.900 --> 00:28:33.079
Yeah.
632
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.480
Then things got better. Are you still there? Because you
633
00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:41.619
look very sad.
634
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.579
Things never got better. I do have a wife. I
635
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:47.240
love her and we've been together a long time. But
636
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.299
she also does not see me as a sexual person.
637
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:52.440
You're the mayor of friend zone.
638
00:28:52.829 --> 00:28:54.470
I'm in the friend zone.
639
00:28:54.630 --> 00:28:56.509
I have a very healthy marriage, but I'm in the
640
00:28:56.569 --> 00:29:00.619
friend zone with my wife. Of 23 years. And I
641
00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:03.339
don't know how that happened. And we have two children,
642
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.809
but who knows how that happened. For your wedding, you
643
00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:08.710
guys just gave each other friendship bracelets.
644
00:29:08.730 --> 00:29:09.210
Exactly.
645
00:29:09.269 --> 00:29:10.049
Yeah, exactly.
646
00:29:10.089 --> 00:29:12.130
Instead of kissing after you high five.
647
00:29:12.190 --> 00:29:16.450
We high five. Do you take this friend to be
648
00:29:16.470 --> 00:29:18.839
your friend? And do you take this friend to be
649
00:29:18.859 --> 00:29:23.359
your friend? I'm curious about, I know the breakout for
650
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:28.900
you was that the, beautiful, terrific movie, Y Tu Mama Tambien,
651
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.190
and that, how old were you when you did that film?
652
00:29:32.230 --> 00:29:34.789
That's probably the best Spanish I've heard from you.
653
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:36.900
Really?
654
00:29:37.099 --> 00:29:37.519
Wasn't it?
655
00:29:37.539 --> 00:29:37.720
Yes.
656
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:39.660
Didn't he say, y tu mamá también?
657
00:29:39.740 --> 00:29:40.660
Y tu mamá también.
658
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:42.029
Okay, okay, guys.
659
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.289
If we call it out every time I manage to
660
00:29:44.329 --> 00:29:47.990
get it kind of right, it makes it worse. Okay?
661
00:29:48.609 --> 00:29:50.170
Good job, Connie.
662
00:29:50.230 --> 00:29:51.670
You did it.
663
00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:53.630
That was cute.
664
00:29:54.089 --> 00:29:58.279
Oh, my God. This is quite like a structure. Your
665
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.920
show is about them making fun of you the whole time?
666
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:03.200
Yes.
667
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.359
Is that it? When you guys leave, though, he comes
668
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:05.720
at us.
669
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.440
But you don't record that.
670
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.809
No, no, no. Oh, God, we record it. No, I'm
671
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.470
very comfortable being, I'm one of six children in my family.
672
00:30:15.490 --> 00:30:18.450
I have many brothers and sisters. So being mercilessly made
673
00:30:18.509 --> 00:30:21.970
fun of is in my DNA. And I actually, in
674
00:30:22.029 --> 00:30:27.180
a sick, sadomasochistic way, I like it. Um, but, uh, yeah, sorry.
675
00:30:27.220 --> 00:30:27.799
No, no, no.
676
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.140
I was saying that, that that was, how old were
677
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:31.059
you when you made that film?
678
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.180
You were, I was 19, 19. I think when, when
679
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.900
we did that film and, uh, and.
680
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.740
That kind of changed, I mean, obviously theater was a
681
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.720
big part of your life and theater still is a
682
00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:44.630
big part of your life, but that must've been a
683
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.119
huge change for you.
684
00:30:46.329 --> 00:30:48.549
I was doing, I was doing, yeah, because I, I
685
00:30:48.589 --> 00:30:53.470
was very, uh, comfortable and in Mexico and I didn't even.
686
00:30:54.079 --> 00:31:00.900
think it was possible to actually start like moving around and, and, and, uh,
687
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:05.059
traveling with my work and finding new audiences. Like I
688
00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:09.539
was pretty comfortable doing cinema. That was very small. We
689
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.200
had a, an industry that was doing 10 to 12
690
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.460
films a year back then. Uh, so it was very small. Your,
691
00:31:15.829 --> 00:31:19.410
your family would watch it and someone in a festival probably,
692
00:31:19.769 --> 00:31:22.690
but that was it. Uh, But I had theater and
693
00:31:22.710 --> 00:31:26.079
I was doing TV to support myself. I was living by... Yeah.
694
00:31:26.259 --> 00:31:27.299
What kind of TV did you do?
695
00:31:27.700 --> 00:31:29.420
Oh, like the last.
696
00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:30.539
Did you do telenovelas?
697
00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:33.960
The last telenovela I did, it was just right before
698
00:31:33.980 --> 00:31:36.259
Y Tu Mama También because I was 19 years old.
699
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.160
I remember that day as like the day I stopped
700
00:31:39.180 --> 00:31:43.750
doing telenovelas. I'm never going to forget. But I started
701
00:31:43.789 --> 00:31:47.230
really like at 12. I worked on the first telenovela.
702
00:31:47.250 --> 00:31:49.640
So it was a good seven years of my life. I.
703
00:31:50.779 --> 00:31:56.119
occasionally we'll be talking to someone from Mexico. This happens
704
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.220
a lot. They'll they, they, uh, and we'll be chatting
705
00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:03.900
and they'll want to know, they know that I work
706
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:07.089
in television. They've seen clips, but I always say to them, well,
707
00:32:07.109 --> 00:32:09.490
I did a telenovela because I did it when I
708
00:32:09.529 --> 00:32:11.369
was in and I was in, I think it was
709
00:32:11.450 --> 00:32:14.710
the something malediction. I forget what it's called. Yeah.
710
00:32:14.750 --> 00:32:14.910
Yeah.
711
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:18.740
That's close.
712
00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:21.440
It's more like. You'll get it, Eduardo.
713
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:21.619
Okay.
714
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:27.230
You'll get it. He just needs a little more time
715
00:32:27.250 --> 00:32:28.849
under my tutelage. Wow.
716
00:32:29.150 --> 00:32:29.349
Yeah.
717
00:32:29.569 --> 00:32:32.809
I'll teach how to do it in a Boston accent.
718
00:32:33.329 --> 00:32:36.150
But no, they wrote a part for me and they
719
00:32:36.190 --> 00:32:38.269
were really funny. They wrote a part for me as
720
00:32:38.329 --> 00:32:43.609
a cheese merchant. And they gave me a mustache and
721
00:32:43.869 --> 00:32:47.970
I come in and I have this scene Where I'm
722
00:32:48.750 --> 00:32:51.339
getting very angry. And it's this, one of the most
723
00:32:51.390 --> 00:32:53.700
beautiful women I've seen in my life. The women in these,
724
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.960
the men are so good looking. This woman was, took
725
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.740
my breath away. She was so beautiful. And you can
726
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.259
see the clip online and she, there's a point where
727
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.559
I'm getting very angry with her and I'm, it's all
728
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:06.220
in Spanish and I'm yelling at her in Spanish. You
729
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.069
do not treat me this way.
730
00:33:07.109 --> 00:33:07.490
I will not be.
731
00:33:07.710 --> 00:33:09.160
And she puts her hand out and she touches me.
732
00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:10.950
And I guess they have a name for it in telenovelas,
733
00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:14.069
which is the thunderbolt or something where a woman touches
734
00:33:14.130 --> 00:33:16.410
a man and suddenly they have that moment of connection
735
00:33:16.470 --> 00:33:17.970
and it's such a soap opera thing.
736
00:33:18.269 --> 00:33:18.529
It is.
737
00:33:18.690 --> 00:33:20.670
But she, I'm yelling at her and she touches me
738
00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:22.329
and I look at her and they cut to her
739
00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:25.289
and she suddenly feels this emotion, which by the way,
740
00:33:25.569 --> 00:33:28.970
she would never feel in real life. And the crowd
741
00:33:29.049 --> 00:33:32.559
went crazy. This crap, they go crazy. And it's one
742
00:33:32.579 --> 00:33:35.319
of my favorite moments from my career. And I, I
743
00:33:35.380 --> 00:33:37.940
love to show it to people. I talk to them.
744
00:33:38.099 --> 00:33:40.630
I'm constantly thinking, calling it up on my phone and saying,
745
00:33:40.650 --> 00:33:42.119
check this out. And my wife is like, you're not
746
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:46.720
making them watch. You're telling them. This is Pedro. And
747
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:48.740
this is Jose. And I'm showing it to them.
748
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.420
And they always.
749
00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:52.640
But I... It's so funny because.
750
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.099
It all depends on the perspective, right? I'm trying to
751
00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:59.089
disappear everything that's out there from the work I did
752
00:33:59.150 --> 00:34:01.049
in telenovelas. Nah.
753
00:34:01.089 --> 00:34:02.490
You're a kid. You're a young man.
754
00:34:03.529 --> 00:34:07.029
I was 19. I was still doing telenovelas. And there
755
00:34:07.049 --> 00:34:09.820
was a few... No, there's a few that I'm more
756
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:12.219
proud of than the others, but, uh, but it is
757
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.039
a big thing. And, uh, and, and it was one,
758
00:34:15.059 --> 00:34:18.239
I grew up in, in theater where they would see like,
759
00:34:18.300 --> 00:34:21.679
they would like judge you if you were going to, to,
760
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.360
to work on a telenovela. But the point came where
761
00:34:24.739 --> 00:34:26.989
every actor had to be in both things, you know,
762
00:34:27.010 --> 00:34:30.690
to survive, you know, theater wouldn't be enough to pay your,
763
00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:33.409
your rent and, and, and, and actors would be doing
764
00:34:33.469 --> 00:34:38.030
telenovelas in and, and theater in, in at night. And, uh,
765
00:34:38.389 --> 00:34:40.130
it was quite a thing and, and, and you can
766
00:34:40.170 --> 00:34:44.550
tell like what happens with the popularity, you know, in telenovelas,
767
00:34:44.650 --> 00:34:47.610
like you are doing one and you are very popular,
768
00:34:48.110 --> 00:34:53.250
but he, another one comes and everyone forgets immediately, you know,
769
00:34:53.610 --> 00:34:55.199
it's that kind of thing where, because it's.
770
00:34:55.909 --> 00:34:58.179
What some people have said too, about being in soap
771
00:34:58.260 --> 00:35:01.800
operas or telenovelas is that if you're playing the bad guy,
772
00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:07.440
people in the supermarket who see you are mad at you. They, uh,
773
00:35:07.500 --> 00:35:10.179
they're like, I don't, I don't like what you're doing.
774
00:35:10.219 --> 00:35:11.679
And you're like, no, no, no, that is a role
775
00:35:11.699 --> 00:35:14.579
that I'm playing. So yes, they, people take it very seriously,
776
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:15.800
become part of their lives.
777
00:35:16.059 --> 00:35:16.380
Obviously.
778
00:35:16.420 --> 00:35:19.219
I mean, and things have changed. I think in the
779
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.460
nineties and early two thousands, like the TV was always on,
780
00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:25.219
you know, in, in, in, in many homes and you
781
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.539
were there, you were part of their everyday's life. You know,
782
00:35:28.659 --> 00:35:31.940
it was like, uh, telenovelas, there was the ones that
783
00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:34.119
were meant to be playing while you were doing something
784
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.739
else also, you know, and, and, uh, that's why they
785
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.250
repeat them over and over the same scene, you know,
786
00:35:40.309 --> 00:35:43.449
because you're not really paying attention sometimes, you know, but
787
00:35:43.489 --> 00:35:48.070
television was really important for audiences. Not these days. Now,
788
00:35:48.429 --> 00:35:51.920
now people are more like into searching for what they.
789
00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:53.000
Want to be consuming, you know?
790
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:53.559
Yeah.
791
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.710
There was a time they, they, uh, It's a great
792
00:35:56.750 --> 00:35:58.969
term for it here where people are siloed. Everyone's in
793
00:35:58.989 --> 00:36:01.099
their own little tube watching all this stuff that they
794
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.860
just want to see. They're not connected to each other. Yeah,
795
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.079
the bubble, no?
796
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:06.059
You live in this bubble.
797
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.639
You're in your own little bubble and you're watching and
798
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.760
all the content is catered just to you. If you're online,
799
00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:13.539
you're seeing everything that you would want to see as
800
00:36:14.179 --> 00:36:19.050
opposed to when I was growing up. Obviously, I'm much
801
00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:22.030
older than everybody here, but it was TV was there's
802
00:36:22.329 --> 00:36:25.650
three four channels and, and you had to wait for
803
00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:28.300
what was, what had good reception because we didn't have cable.
804
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.880
So sometimes the channel that had something good on you
805
00:36:31.099 --> 00:36:33.159
wasn't coming in and then you'd flip the channel and
806
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:37.300
it's a Catholic mass. I'm like, Oh my God, but
807
00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:41.099
it looks good coming in. I guess we'll watch this
808
00:36:41.179 --> 00:36:45.469
and hope a gunfight breaks out. Um, never did, but
809
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.199
But you're right, you were forced to be exposed to
810
00:36:50.260 --> 00:36:54.039
things like old movies, things that you wouldn't watch normally
811
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:56.780
because that was what was on television. What's fascinating to
812
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.619
me about your career is that you have this very
813
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.099
bohemian background, theater, small movies, art house movies, and then
814
00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:10.019
you're in what's arguably one of the best of the
815
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.360
Star Wars franchise films, Rogue One, and that's gotta just...
816
00:37:14.699 --> 00:37:17.559
change everything. I mean, it's and then it's led to,
817
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.300
you know, today you're here because Andor is out with
818
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.559
the second season, a show I love, by the way.
819
00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:27.280
It's fantastic. And I'm not even a Star Wars person
820
00:37:27.340 --> 00:37:30.619
per se, but I love it. I think it's such
821
00:37:30.659 --> 00:37:34.070
a great it's a beautifully told story. And so now
822
00:37:34.110 --> 00:37:38.630
you find yourself in this world of a huge international
823
00:37:38.849 --> 00:37:43.090
audience in and the power of the Star Wars franchise
824
00:37:43.130 --> 00:37:45.719
behind you. It's it's such a You weren't setting out,
825
00:37:45.750 --> 00:37:46.849
you weren't looking for that.
826
00:37:47.190 --> 00:37:50.139
No, not at all. Not at all. And also because
827
00:37:50.380 --> 00:37:53.039
it would have been painful. There was no room. You know,
828
00:37:53.139 --> 00:37:55.650
I grew up watching these films, but I never thought I,
829
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.780
I mean, I never saw someone like me there. I
830
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:02.000
never thought it was possible. And I didn't even want to, like,
831
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.500
I was doing theater really happy. I was, when I
832
00:38:05.539 --> 00:38:07.940
did it to Momenta Bien, I started traveling with my
833
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.519
work and it was suddenly I realized there was a
834
00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:14.510
community that it was really close to me. Uh, you know,
835
00:38:14.590 --> 00:38:16.409
in the States, for example, when I went the first
836
00:38:16.449 --> 00:38:19.179
time to Sundance, uh, I realized there was people that
837
00:38:19.260 --> 00:38:22.400
struggled the same way I struggled to work, uh, on film,
838
00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:24.789
you know, the, the Hollywood wasn't a thing like a.
839
00:38:25.329 --> 00:38:27.469
Hollywood was just like a.
840
00:38:27.829 --> 00:38:29.789
There were different subsets, communities.
841
00:38:30.010 --> 00:38:34.659
Yeah, independent cinema, theater, people doing cinema but theater and
842
00:38:34.699 --> 00:38:39.039
then cinema again and struggling to get financing for their
843
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.260
movies and finally getting it and having very little resources
844
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:47.199
or have to, like, with creativity, solve things and all
845
00:38:47.219 --> 00:38:50.639
of that. I started finding those connections in the States,
846
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.409
in London, in Spain.
847
00:38:52.429 --> 00:38:52.619
Sure, yeah.
848
00:38:53.010 --> 00:38:55.329
And suddenly was like, OK, great. I can keep doing
849
00:38:55.389 --> 00:38:57.949
what I what I do. When I was asked to
850
00:38:58.030 --> 00:39:02.130
do Rogue One or to go into the process of
851
00:39:02.190 --> 00:39:05.070
doing auditions for Rogue One, the director said to me,
852
00:39:05.090 --> 00:39:08.670
I want to do a film in this universe that
853
00:39:08.789 --> 00:39:13.269
tonally feels very realistic, close to what you guys did
854
00:39:13.329 --> 00:39:16.469
in Ito Mama Tambien. And I was like, what?
855
00:39:20.539 --> 00:39:22.280
Are you OK, man?
856
00:39:23.219 --> 00:39:23.860
Exactly.
857
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:24.780
Who was saying this?
858
00:39:25.340 --> 00:39:29.929
Gareth Edwards. Yeah. The director who I owe him being here.
859
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.679
talking about Andor because he had the idea. He he
860
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:36.820
he shot in Mexico film. He loved it to mama también.
861
00:39:37.219 --> 00:39:39.699
And he was crazy enough to think that there was
862
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.869
room for me in that project. I couldn't really believe it.
863
00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:47.119
I make the joke a lot of times about like,
864
00:39:47.539 --> 00:39:49.599
I was sitting there going like, what does he want
865
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.699
from me? Does he want the number of an actor
866
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.840
or like, does he want me to help him with
867
00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:58.559
Gael or what? You know, I don't even speak English,
868
00:39:58.579 --> 00:40:02.110
you know? I mean, what is this about? And he
869
00:40:02.150 --> 00:40:04.329
was like very honest and saying like, and he got
870
00:40:04.389 --> 00:40:08.429
an amazing cast. of people that were doing the cinema
871
00:40:08.909 --> 00:40:11.650
I was doing, but in their context, you know, Felicity,
872
00:40:11.730 --> 00:40:15.269
Risa May, Mads Mikkelsen. Like it was a cast of
873
00:40:15.329 --> 00:40:18.219
like people that were doing tiny films in their countries
874
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:25.219
and dramas that were all about the storytelling. And anyway,
875
00:40:25.619 --> 00:40:29.840
so I went into doing that and I freaked out.
876
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.599
I was like, wow, this is amazing because I can
877
00:40:32.659 --> 00:40:36.849
still be myself. And I have to think, Yeah, Lucasfilm
878
00:40:36.969 --> 00:40:40.369
and Disney and everyone, because they gave us the tools,
879
00:40:40.429 --> 00:40:43.449
but then the freedom to, you know, so it felt
880
00:40:43.489 --> 00:40:46.289
like I was just on a set of a film
881
00:40:46.989 --> 00:40:49.590
that I've been my whole life. I felt the same freedom.
882
00:40:49.650 --> 00:40:51.650
I didn't feel like, oh, shit, we have to now
883
00:40:51.690 --> 00:40:54.670
behave differently because we're doing this gigantic project.
884
00:40:54.829 --> 00:40:56.510
Well, I think that also the moral of the story
885
00:40:56.570 --> 00:41:01.559
is sometimes a big popular movie can be fantastic.
886
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:01.920
Yeah.
887
00:41:02.179 --> 00:41:03.199
Do you know what I mean? There's a.
888
00:41:03.619 --> 00:41:05.420
And it can have integrity.
889
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.039
Yes, there can be a reverse snobbery sometimes of, oh,
890
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:10.380
this is a popcorn movie. This is going to be huge.
891
00:41:10.460 --> 00:41:11.320
Everyone's going to love it.
892
00:41:12.989 --> 00:41:13.230
No.
893
00:41:14.489 --> 00:41:15.829
Yes, people are going to love it. A lot of
894
00:41:15.849 --> 00:41:17.809
people are going to see it. It's a big franchise.
895
00:41:18.630 --> 00:41:18.949
But.
896
00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:24.630
And it's now... This television series is... And it is
897
00:41:26.110 --> 00:41:29.119
beautifully acted. The story is so well told.
898
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:29.739
And.
899
00:41:30.300 --> 00:41:34.800
What's so fascinating to me is Cassian, your character, it
900
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.079
makes sense to me because of the story, the backstory
901
00:41:38.099 --> 00:41:41.000
of Rogue One is he comes from this other place
902
00:41:41.099 --> 00:41:44.460
and he doesn't belong. And so there's something that lines
903
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:50.739
up very neatly with someone coming from, in your case, Mexico,
904
00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:56.250
you know? And you are coming from a different land
905
00:41:56.309 --> 00:41:58.829
and trying to struggle to figure out what your place
906
00:41:58.869 --> 00:42:02.590
is in it. So- It all makes sense, but it
907
00:42:02.630 --> 00:42:04.750
takes someone with vision to see that and go, we
908
00:42:05.409 --> 00:42:08.909
got to get Diego Luna. And 99.9% of the people
909
00:42:08.929 --> 00:42:10.309
in the room would say, what are you talking about?
910
00:42:10.329 --> 00:42:12.210
That's exactly what Garrett said.
911
00:42:12.250 --> 00:42:15.639
Including me. I don't have mixed it. They did call
912
00:42:15.659 --> 00:42:17.360
me because I had worked with you and I said,
913
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:18.300
I think it's a mistake.
914
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:19.679
It's a mistake. He's very good.
915
00:42:19.900 --> 00:42:20.929
I said, I'm more of a.
916
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:21.719
Get him a telenovela.
917
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:26.619
I said, I'm more of a Cassian when you think
918
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:29.820
about it. And they did some tests and apparently not good.
919
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:34.809
No, you don't fit in the cockpits also.
920
00:42:34.909 --> 00:42:37.650
My head, they had to cut a hole through the spaceship. No,
921
00:42:37.750 --> 00:42:38.110
but it is.
922
00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:43.829
So I did realize on the process and on the
923
00:42:43.849 --> 00:42:47.389
process of Rogue One and then Andor that it was
924
00:42:47.460 --> 00:42:52.050
more my prejudice speaking, you know, that because I I
925
00:42:52.090 --> 00:42:56.010
think Andor is a, it's a, it's a great example of, of, of, um,
926
00:42:56.289 --> 00:42:58.119
of how things should be done. You know, it's like a,
927
00:42:58.550 --> 00:43:02.539
it is a gigantic project. It has a, a wonderful
928
00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:06.400
and very diverse reach. Uh, but, uh, but the way
929
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.460
they did it is the way they do the films.
930
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:10.800
I love, you know, we, we, we are there, uh,
931
00:43:11.659 --> 00:43:14.699
because there's a perspective, a point of view, uh, which
932
00:43:14.780 --> 00:43:18.699
is the, the creators, Tony Gilroy, the amazing writer and
933
00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:22.050
producer and director, uh, uh, that is behind this and
934
00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:25.550
we're following a leader and a voice. And, uh, and
935
00:43:25.590 --> 00:43:28.989
if you commit to that, then that's integrity. That's where
936
00:43:29.030 --> 00:43:31.989
integrity comes from, you know, and then this thing can
937
00:43:32.050 --> 00:43:35.219
fly and be huge, you know? Uh, and obviously we
938
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.400
all get it. I mean, we're part of a community.
939
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.139
People really want to see these people really want this
940
00:43:40.179 --> 00:43:42.599
to be good and they're expecting the best out of
941
00:43:42.659 --> 00:43:45.679
you and you have to bring it. But, uh, but
942
00:43:45.699 --> 00:43:48.909
it had that kind of like that sense of like, okay,
943
00:43:48.949 --> 00:43:52.989
we're working for a vision, you know, from beginning to end. And, uh,
944
00:43:53.309 --> 00:43:56.909
and I, I was really pleased. And, and then many people,
945
00:43:57.630 --> 00:44:01.349
many people like think your life changes because of being
946
00:44:01.409 --> 00:44:04.550
part of a project like that. And it's true, but
947
00:44:04.630 --> 00:44:07.409
not in the way probably that people imagine, you know, it,
948
00:44:07.699 --> 00:44:10.460
it changes because like, I'm a different person. I went
949
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.019
through a revolution myself with this project. I'm part of
950
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.219
a community. I got to work with people that are
951
00:44:17.789 --> 00:44:20.590
as talented as it gets. And I got to learn,
952
00:44:21.090 --> 00:44:22.829
but then you go back to your life and your
953
00:44:22.849 --> 00:44:23.610
life is the same.
954
00:44:23.750 --> 00:44:23.989
Yes.
955
00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:26.530
You know, I, I go back and I want to
956
00:44:26.550 --> 00:44:31.840
do a tiny little film about this particular event or, or,
957
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.159
or character. And I don't go out there and find
958
00:44:35.219 --> 00:44:37.760
money to do it. You know, they go like, oh, no,
959
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:39.699
that one, no, not for that one.
960
00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:43.570
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it doesn't change. And in a way,
961
00:44:43.630 --> 00:44:44.570
that's refreshing.
962
00:44:44.849 --> 00:44:47.210
It is because you can still be yourself and you
963
00:44:47.230 --> 00:44:50.389
can go through an experience like this and be transformed
964
00:44:50.530 --> 00:44:53.250
in the best possible way. But then also go back
965
00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:57.780
to who you were without having to, yeah, to leave
966
00:44:57.820 --> 00:45:01.800
something behind or don't, yeah, to avoid being.
967
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.460
Being back, you know, as if it was a bad
968
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.719
thing to me is the opposite. It's going back is great.
969
00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:12.070
I've always found it very, in a way, refreshing that
970
00:45:12.090 --> 00:45:15.530
I'll have a moment. I'll have a moment that's supposedly
971
00:45:15.590 --> 00:45:18.599
like a big moment or something in my career. And then.
972
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:22.039
The next day, someone will say, oh, I saw you,
973
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.000
you know, host the Oscars last night and then you
974
00:45:24.019 --> 00:45:25.860
did a really good job. Oh, you did a good job.
975
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:27.489
But I'll say, thank you very much. And they'll say,
976
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:28.619
and you can't park there.
977
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:33.280
Exactly.
978
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:36.440
And I go, oh, oh, I'm sorry. And you're like, oh, good. Nothing's,
979
00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:39.420
it's gravity. Gravity is always acting on you.
980
00:45:44.349 --> 00:45:47.829
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How was school, Pat? We were learning all about France
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and Joan of Arc and the Eiffel Tower and how
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they speak.
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Is a new day.
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Visit gov.ie forward slash school attendance. An initiative of the
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Government of Ireland.
1010
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Well, I want to cede the floor to Matt for
1011
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.360
a second because Matt is a huge.
1012
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:28.739
He's falling asleep.
1013
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:30.360
No, no, no.
1014
00:47:30.409 --> 00:47:31.449
No, no, no.
1015
00:47:31.510 --> 00:47:33.340
I'm just so relaxed listening to you guys talk.
1016
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.300
I'm serious. I could listen all day. I don't know
1017
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.250
that you should. But I just... It's only fair and
1018
00:47:37.309 --> 00:47:40.369
right because Star Wars and all of it means so
1019
00:47:40.409 --> 00:47:44.969
much to you. And this is... I know that you
1020
00:47:45.050 --> 00:47:48.409
have raved about... I mean, when you saw Rogue One,
1021
00:47:48.429 --> 00:47:52.929
just you thought that, oh, they've really... They've made a beautiful,
1022
00:47:53.010 --> 00:47:53.909
beautiful movie.
1023
00:47:55.289 --> 00:47:59.019
Particularly Andor and Rogue One and what you and Tony
1024
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:00.920
Gilroy and all the other actors are doing is so
1025
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.699
damn enjoyable and so good. I mean, it's just... That's
1026
00:48:04.739 --> 00:48:05.380
all I have to say.
1027
00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:08.420
No, but I mean, you were in a very happy
1028
00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:12.329
place today because Diego was coming in. And I know
1029
00:48:12.849 --> 00:48:17.849
what I've noticed about Andor is that I don't... Again,
1030
00:48:17.949 --> 00:48:20.639
there are some... uh, shows in a, that are part
1031
00:48:20.659 --> 00:48:23.389
of a big franchise that kind of demand, you know, X, Y,
1032
00:48:23.420 --> 00:48:27.929
and Z. And, um, I remember going to see when
1033
00:48:27.949 --> 00:48:30.269
I was a kid, my brother, Luke and I went
1034
00:48:30.309 --> 00:48:34.070
to see the movie Dune this with comic Lachlan in
1035
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.739
whatever it was, 1980 or something at the Hearthstone Plaza theater,
1036
00:48:37.780 --> 00:48:39.460
which isn't even a theater anymore. I think it's a
1037
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:41.739
pot dispensary because everything that I grew up with is
1038
00:48:41.780 --> 00:48:42.559
now a pot dispensary.
1039
00:48:42.579 --> 00:48:42.679
Yeah.
1040
00:48:43.500 --> 00:48:47.880
Except the pot dispensary is now an ATM. But I
1041
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:49.719
remember we got there and they handed you a little
1042
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.320
booklet that you had to read before you could watch
1043
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.230
the movie that explained, okay, this is this. And I thought,
1044
00:48:55.269 --> 00:48:56.409
what the fuck is this?
1045
00:48:56.429 --> 00:48:58.630
I think that's just because what David Lynch did to
1046
00:48:58.690 --> 00:48:59.289
that story.
1047
00:48:59.369 --> 00:48:59.969
Yeah, yeah.
1048
00:49:00.710 --> 00:49:03.130
God bless his soul. But anyway. I like him, don't
1049
00:49:03.150 --> 00:49:03.429
get me wrong.
1050
00:49:03.449 --> 00:49:04.469
Yeah, yeah, don't get me wrong. It's just insane.
1051
00:49:04.510 --> 00:49:08.199
You and your anti-David Lynch propaganda. I won't have it.
1052
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:10.519
But what I love about Andor is you can know
1053
00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:16.630
absolutely nothing. Mm-hmm. And it's just great storytelling, really great
1054
00:49:16.670 --> 00:49:18.570
storytelling and terrific acting.
1055
00:49:18.769 --> 00:49:21.079
And then, um and you get to sit in a
1056
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.679
tie fighter what's that like oh yeah yeah we got
1057
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.159
to that you be quiet.
1058
00:49:27.630 --> 00:49:31.309
The tie fighter yeah it's a it's a special prototype
1059
00:49:31.429 --> 00:49:36.070
right that i'm it was it was fascinating because things
1060
00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:37.920
actually work And.
1061
00:49:38.059 --> 00:49:39.960
Uh, you guys can go, we got this.
1062
00:49:40.780 --> 00:49:42.619
No, I want to hear it. So when you say
1063
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:43.840
things actually work, what do you mean?
1064
00:49:44.019 --> 00:49:47.329
You turn on the, uh, a button and a light
1065
00:49:47.710 --> 00:49:51.989
comes on. Uh, the, the screens are showing you, you know,
1066
00:49:52.590 --> 00:49:56.730
information you can relate and communicate, you know, with, with
1067
00:49:56.929 --> 00:50:01.679
the object. It's it's we, and I don't know, I mean,
1068
00:50:02.019 --> 00:50:05.380
I'm not sure how they do every, every Star Wars show.
1069
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.269
But ours is very mechanical. It's very much like a
1070
00:50:11.110 --> 00:50:15.130
homage to the filmmaking that started the whole thing. You
1071
00:50:15.150 --> 00:50:17.570
can feel it. So we are interacting with props, with
1072
00:50:17.650 --> 00:50:25.300
real pieces of... The stage is real, it's built. You
1073
00:50:25.340 --> 00:50:27.420
have to wait till it's built. You have to use
1074
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:29.760
it and then they bring it down. There's a whole
1075
00:50:30.179 --> 00:50:34.170
process and there's a whole design behind things. Things don't
1076
00:50:34.210 --> 00:50:36.650
get decided later. You know, they don't tell you like,
1077
00:50:36.889 --> 00:50:39.710
just turn buttons and pretend you're flying and then we'll
1078
00:50:39.750 --> 00:50:42.650
figure it out. No, there's a reason. There's things on
1079
00:50:42.670 --> 00:50:45.550
the right, things on the left. If you move these forward,
1080
00:50:45.989 --> 00:50:49.820
it has to be like this. And also, there's someone
1081
00:50:49.900 --> 00:50:53.039
behind the design. So there's someone defending the design and
1082
00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:56.099
telling you and walking you through what you are about
1083
00:50:56.139 --> 00:50:56.880
to use, you know?
1084
00:50:57.059 --> 00:50:57.179
Yeah.
1085
00:50:58.269 --> 00:51:00.829
It's, it's like actually happening and you're in a platform
1086
00:51:00.869 --> 00:51:04.019
that actually moves. So you turn right and the thing
1087
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.389
moves right, left, down, up, you know, if you're hit,
1088
00:51:07.550 --> 00:51:08.190
it shakes.
1089
00:51:08.969 --> 00:51:11.289
Uh, so like your father was just like, oh, he's
1090
00:51:11.349 --> 00:51:14.429
messing up my designer many times.
1091
00:51:14.489 --> 00:51:18.289
I'm sure that happened, uh, many times and some, and
1092
00:51:18.349 --> 00:51:20.650
sometimes you have screens in front of you. So you
1093
00:51:20.710 --> 00:51:25.449
are looking at what's. What's going to be there, you know, somehow. Uh,
1094
00:51:25.610 --> 00:51:28.510
so it is, uh, the, the putting together of the,
1095
00:51:28.650 --> 00:51:30.909
of the show takes a long time because there's a
1096
00:51:30.949 --> 00:51:34.849
lot of work behind everything. And, uh, and, and that
1097
00:51:34.889 --> 00:51:37.329
again is because it, it has to do with the vision.
1098
00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:41.050
The way Tony writes is very special. You'll, you'll be
1099
00:51:41.070 --> 00:51:43.869
interested in this. Like he, he doesn't write a scene
1100
00:51:43.909 --> 00:51:46.030
where they go like, okay, they're doing a podcast in
1101
00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:49.449
a studio and, uh, and he sits down with the
1102
00:51:49.630 --> 00:51:52.469
set designer and says, okay, how big is the studio? Okay.
1103
00:51:52.610 --> 00:51:54.900
And they design a studio. And a piece of paper,
1104
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:56.480
you know, and they go like, okay, they'll have a
1105
00:51:56.579 --> 00:51:59.460
table with four microphones. So over there is going to
1106
00:51:59.500 --> 00:52:02.659
be the computer. There's three seats there. So when he's
1107
00:52:02.699 --> 00:52:06.510
writing the scene, he's describing a space that already exists
1108
00:52:07.030 --> 00:52:10.989
and that has been designed for this. Therefore, everything has
1109
00:52:11.030 --> 00:52:14.469
a reason. Everything has a purpose. And things are already
1110
00:52:14.510 --> 00:52:17.829
designed when he's writing. And he's the master, I believe,
1111
00:52:17.889 --> 00:52:20.860
of collaboration because everything Somehow in that moment, it's not
1112
00:52:20.900 --> 00:52:25.039
just his material. It's also the production designer's material because
1113
00:52:25.260 --> 00:52:28.599
his vision is already in the page, you know? So
1114
00:52:28.619 --> 00:52:30.599
when you get to the place and you read a
1115
00:52:30.699 --> 00:52:34.590
line and a direction, it makes sense. You go like, oh, okay,
1116
00:52:34.619 --> 00:52:35.969
I get it. Now I get it.
1117
00:52:36.090 --> 00:52:39.829
But it informs, it informs, it's a collaboration between, because
1118
00:52:39.909 --> 00:52:43.250
you're acting then, it's a collaboration between all this work
1119
00:52:43.269 --> 00:52:45.090
that's happened before you even show up to set.
1120
00:52:45.269 --> 00:52:45.789
Definitely.
1121
00:52:46.070 --> 00:52:51.070
And, you know, one of the things that... always, because
1122
00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:53.110
I'm old enough to remember what it used to be,
1123
00:52:53.590 --> 00:52:56.789
science fiction used to be shiny and clean, meaning spaceships
1124
00:52:57.210 --> 00:53:01.159
always were kind of shiny and Buck Rogers, everything. And
1125
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:03.539
people wore these immaculate spacesuits. And that was what we
1126
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.500
knew as science fiction. And if you watch 2001, that's
1127
00:53:06.539 --> 00:53:08.719
how it is. And then I want to say Blade
1128
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.539
Runner was kind of a revelation because as we all
1129
00:53:11.579 --> 00:53:14.369
know in real life, cars are rusty or dirty or
1130
00:53:14.449 --> 00:53:17.090
banged up or dented. And then in Star Wars, you
1131
00:53:17.130 --> 00:53:20.619
saw that things are kind of retrofitted. They're kind of
1132
00:53:20.659 --> 00:53:21.880
holding it together with tape.
1133
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:22.360
Yeah.
1134
00:53:22.380 --> 00:53:26.679
You know, the Millennium Falcons got some problems. Some of
1135
00:53:27.139 --> 00:53:30.170
the robots or the droids are kind of dirty. They've
1136
00:53:30.190 --> 00:53:32.690
been banged around a little bit. And I remember that
1137
00:53:32.710 --> 00:53:36.789
being a real revelation. And what you really see in
1138
00:53:37.090 --> 00:53:40.170
Andor and in Rogue One, too, is also just this
1139
00:53:40.699 --> 00:53:43.780
idea that stuff, these are machines that get used. They
1140
00:53:43.820 --> 00:53:46.690
have to be fixed. They have to be repaired. People are,
1141
00:53:46.909 --> 00:53:51.869
there's dirt everywhere. Things get fucked up and that informs
1142
00:53:51.969 --> 00:53:53.829
the story a lot. Do you know what I mean?
1143
00:53:53.869 --> 00:53:56.989
Like clearly it's, it's, and it's, it makes it to
1144
00:53:57.050 --> 00:53:59.300
me more real. It makes it very real. And it's
1145
00:53:59.539 --> 00:54:01.420
different than the science fiction I grew up with.
1146
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.860
It's just so tactile, the world that you guys have created. And,
1147
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.619
you know, you just feel like all exists for real.
1148
00:54:08.050 --> 00:54:10.489
How much of it is on location or at least exterior, right?
1149
00:54:10.510 --> 00:54:12.789
Because the wind's blowing and it doesn't feel like a studio.
1150
00:54:13.150 --> 00:54:13.989
It's all Cleveland.
1151
00:54:15.510 --> 00:54:15.840
All of it.
1152
00:54:16.329 --> 00:54:18.170
And you don't have to do anything to Cleveland. It
1153
00:54:18.210 --> 00:54:19.469
just looks like a, you know.
1154
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.420
The first season we had in mind was, it was
1155
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:24.820
going to be a shoot that we were going to
1156
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:30.539
travel around the world, hoping to be in amazing locations
1157
00:54:30.619 --> 00:54:34.840
and again, uh, be a homage to filmmaking, you know,
1158
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.000
allow the accident of the real location to come part, uh,
1159
00:54:38.260 --> 00:54:40.409
to be part of, of, of the result, you know,
1160
00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:43.969
and the creative process to be influenced by what happens
1161
00:54:44.030 --> 00:54:46.730
when you're out there and, and you can't control everything.
1162
00:54:47.349 --> 00:54:50.949
But then, uh, the COVID, the COVID came and we
1163
00:54:50.989 --> 00:54:55.019
had to, we had to adjust. And, uh, we, we
1164
00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:58.860
did a very, uh, a show that happened mostly on
1165
00:54:58.980 --> 00:55:01.320
studio because we, we had to be there, you know?
1166
00:55:01.750 --> 00:55:04.369
And we started building things in the studio and they
1167
00:55:04.409 --> 00:55:08.869
build Ferrix completely. Like the whole town. And it's a town,
1168
00:55:08.929 --> 00:55:12.449
like you can get lost in Ferrix. I mean, Adrian
1169
00:55:12.469 --> 00:55:15.090
talks about getting lost in Ferrix and it did happen.
1170
00:55:15.429 --> 00:55:20.170
Like you can, it's, it's, it's so wonderful. And, but it's, again,
1171
00:55:20.289 --> 00:55:23.800
it's a design that, that Luke Hall did next to
1172
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.380
Tony and Tony understood the logic of that CD perfectly.
1173
00:55:27.750 --> 00:55:30.050
And then started writing for the CD and the CD
1174
00:55:30.130 --> 00:55:34.869
gave you everything, gave you alleys, big streets, uh, stores, food,
1175
00:55:35.380 --> 00:55:38.739
you know, the restaurants, the hotel, the, the, the place where,
1176
00:55:38.860 --> 00:55:42.079
where you would need to hide are, do exist. And
1177
00:55:42.099 --> 00:55:45.360
they're the size for you to actually play that scene there.
1178
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.079
You don't have to like, you know, you can shoot
1179
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:52.159
in order and allow things to actually happen. Um, that's
1180
00:55:52.179 --> 00:55:54.269
how we would. We did the first season. Then we
1181
00:55:54.309 --> 00:55:56.809
went to Scotland for, for a bit when we were
1182
00:55:56.829 --> 00:55:59.769
allowed to travel and, uh, to the mountains and it
1183
00:55:59.789 --> 00:56:02.909
was beautiful. And again, you can't control everything. There's a
1184
00:56:02.949 --> 00:56:05.389
scene where, where, where we are supposed to be in
1185
00:56:05.449 --> 00:56:07.780
the top of the mountain seeing where we're going to
1186
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:11.599
hit the next day to, to, to do the big robbery,
1187
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.199
you know, and, uh, we get to the mountain. There's
1188
00:56:15.460 --> 00:56:17.760
just a, you can get in cars to one point
1189
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:20.159
and then we had to walk. and we get with
1190
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.360
all the equipment to the top of the mountain, and
1191
00:56:22.380 --> 00:56:26.909
there's a huge cloud not moving. Oh, no. And we
1192
00:56:26.949 --> 00:56:30.789
go like, oh, God. And it signifies those scenes, you know?
1193
00:56:30.829 --> 00:56:34.130
You have a scene with Nemec talking about how how
1194
00:56:34.170 --> 00:56:38.690
much fear he has for what's coming. And it adds because, yes,
1195
00:56:39.650 --> 00:56:42.460
I'm scared too. We can't even see where we're going.
1196
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.659
This is crazy, you know? But the scene just becomes
1197
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:47.460
that scene.
1198
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:50.400
We did because of the place. There's no telling the cloud, hey,
1199
00:56:50.420 --> 00:56:51.159
this is Lucas.
1200
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:52.519
Lucasfilm, I mean, come on.
1201
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:53.480
Move along, cloud.
1202
00:56:53.579 --> 00:56:54.340
Yeah, exactly.
1203
00:56:54.380 --> 00:56:59.579
Kathleen Kennedy sent a note. No, it's not. And the
1204
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.800
beauty of this is that it brings all the attention
1205
00:57:02.860 --> 00:57:05.510
to where it has to be. Everyone is, you know,
1206
00:57:05.590 --> 00:57:08.780
like focus on, okay, how do we tell the story?
1207
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:11.280
How do we tell the story? Because also we know
1208
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:14.179
the story, but by that point, there is no, there
1209
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.239
is a secrecy, you know, out of the bubble. But
1210
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.369
for us, we are all very much invested in the
1211
00:57:20.409 --> 00:57:23.469
same story that Tony Gilroy wants to tell, you know?
1212
00:57:23.949 --> 00:57:24.389
That's great.
1213
00:57:24.489 --> 00:57:26.570
I'm just sad. This is the last season.
1214
00:57:26.650 --> 00:57:31.699
Well, sad story. but relieve no yes also because it's
1215
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:33.960
hard for you no no no but not not in
1216
00:57:34.019 --> 00:57:36.340
terms of like oh i i want to be at
1217
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.099
home no it's just like it's it's it's not easy
1218
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.059
to to get something right yeah so when it happens
1219
00:57:42.139 --> 00:57:45.420
it's nice that you keep it that that big let
1220
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.739
me put it this way i think tv is has
1221
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.800
brought great things you know it's a great place for
1222
00:57:51.019 --> 00:57:54.769
for young talents to find their voices it's a It's wonderful.
1223
00:57:54.789 --> 00:57:58.340
It's taking all the risks cinema stopped taking, you know,
1224
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:01.539
which is great. But there's one thing I don't like,
1225
00:58:01.699 --> 00:58:05.519
which is things start without knowing where they're going to end. Yeah.
1226
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.760
Everyone's talking about the next season and probably there's another
1227
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.760
one and there's an anxiety of like, how much more
1228
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:12.989
can we achieve?
1229
00:58:13.010 --> 00:58:13.710
Yeah.
1230
00:58:13.809 --> 00:58:16.590
And it's nice to start something knowing where it ends.
1231
00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:16.969
Mm-hmm.
1232
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.949
Therefore you throw everything in, you know, you put everything
1233
00:58:20.989 --> 00:58:23.489
there and if you succeed, you celebrate. And if you don't,
1234
00:58:23.530 --> 00:58:26.869
you learn and you try again. But, but knowing the
1235
00:58:26.969 --> 00:58:31.789
ending of the, the, the story allowed us to, to, yeah,
1236
00:58:32.150 --> 00:58:36.780
to work this tough and, and, and, and in detail
1237
00:58:37.219 --> 00:58:40.099
in all those layers that you can bring in. Uh,
1238
00:58:41.340 --> 00:58:44.760
but I remember we, we sat down in the first season,
1239
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:48.429
half the way of the shoot. uh, in Scotland, um,
1240
00:58:48.590 --> 00:58:51.369
Tony and I, and, and, and he was like, we
1241
00:58:51.429 --> 00:58:54.289
can't do five seasons of these. Like it takes two
1242
00:58:54.329 --> 00:58:56.239
years and a half of our lives. You know, I'm
1243
00:58:56.260 --> 00:58:58.480
going to be 60 years old, pretending I'm the guy
1244
00:58:58.500 --> 00:59:03.400
I was, you know, in 2016 impossible. So how do
1245
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:05.300
we do this? And, and he came up with the
1246
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:09.639
idea of doing these four blocks because our goal was
1247
00:59:10.179 --> 00:59:14.219
let's tell the story of the five years before Rogue
1248
00:59:14.340 --> 00:59:19.619
One and then finish this story the moment Rogue One starts, right?
1249
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:21.880
That was the goal. So he came up with this
1250
00:59:21.940 --> 00:59:25.300
idea of like in the second season, move through four
1251
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.820
years of the life of these characters and get to
1252
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.829
the point that we promised at the beginning. And that
1253
00:59:30.869 --> 00:59:33.429
was such a relief because then suddenly we understood that
1254
00:59:33.489 --> 00:59:36.530
it was possible that we had to aim for another
1255
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:39.019
three and a half years of work, but we were
1256
00:59:39.059 --> 00:59:39.860
going to make.
1257
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:40.099
It, you know.
1258
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:42.480
Which is great because that's what Rogue One does is
1259
00:59:42.579 --> 00:59:45.000
it goes right up to the end before Star Wars too.
1260
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:46.940
So they all just connect so seamlessly.
1261
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.769
Rogue One is a prequel. Then we did a prequel.
1262
00:59:49.989 --> 00:59:53.289
And it's, yeah. So this is the prequel of the prequel, right?
1263
00:59:53.429 --> 01:00:02.159
A repeatquel. Exactly. We got very technical. Everyone's like, oh, no.
1264
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:03.360
I do think, and this is like.
1265
01:00:03.460 --> 01:00:05.539
And I appreciate that little tangent, by the way.
1266
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:09.619
Yeah, no, it wasn't little at all. And you're fired.
1267
01:00:09.659 --> 01:00:13.159
You're fired. I understand. You'll now work with.
1268
01:00:13.260 --> 01:00:13.599
You'll.
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01:00:13.449 --> 01:00:18.409
Go with Diego. Really? Yeah. You live with him now.
1270
01:00:18.670 --> 01:00:19.329
Okay.
1271
01:00:19.710 --> 01:00:23.389
I do think... I don't eat a lot. That's just work.
1272
01:00:23.429 --> 01:00:24.190
You live with him.
1273
01:00:24.889 --> 01:00:25.690
People....
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01:00:26.829 --> 01:00:28.469
I like that Diego has no say in it either.
1275
01:00:29.409 --> 01:00:32.010
Conan said so. And then he said, bunk beds. You're
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01:00:32.050 --> 01:00:35.369
in Mexico City in bunk beds. Oh, good night, Matthew.
1277
01:00:35.909 --> 01:00:37.650
Just one more thing about Cassidy.
1278
01:00:38.489 --> 01:00:39.280
Go to sleep!
1279
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.559
You know, it does, people talk about this a lot,
1280
01:00:45.019 --> 01:00:48.280
and it can almost sound like a cliche, but it's
1281
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:54.460
so powerful that when you said you didn't see yourself
1282
01:00:54.699 --> 01:00:56.820
in any of the Star Wars movies, in the Star
1283
01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:59.360
Wars world when you were growing up, and it seemed
1284
01:00:59.380 --> 01:01:03.280
like an impossibility to you that someone like you coming
1285
01:01:03.469 --> 01:01:06.070
from Mexico City could be in that world. Think of
1286
01:01:06.130 --> 01:01:12.050
how powerful that is to millions of kids who are
1287
01:01:12.090 --> 01:01:15.889
seeing you in this franchise. And what's fascinating is that
1288
01:01:15.929 --> 01:01:19.380
it has, your role has absolutely nothing to do with
1289
01:01:19.389 --> 01:01:21.659
the fact that you grew up in Mexico. You know
1290
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.179
what I mean? It has nothing to do with that.
1291
01:01:23.260 --> 01:01:25.980
You're just a great actor. The more that happens in
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01:01:26.019 --> 01:01:30.489
different cultures, I can't prove it, but I feel like
1293
01:01:31.429 --> 01:01:33.949
it's the answer to a lot of our problems.
1294
01:01:34.690 --> 01:01:38.730
I agree with you. If I think about the reference
1295
01:01:38.869 --> 01:01:43.110
I grew up watching, following, and hoping one day I
1296
01:01:43.170 --> 01:01:47.090
could be like them compared to the ones that my
1297
01:01:47.139 --> 01:01:52.380
kids are growing up with, it feels much diverse, interesting,
1298
01:01:52.460 --> 01:02:00.110
rich today. And things are changing and getting there. And
1299
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.980
I always want to bring it back to where I
1300
01:02:03.059 --> 01:02:08.280
think everything started happening, which is because of the audience.
1301
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.900
It's because the audience started to have a voice. And
1302
01:02:11.980 --> 01:02:16.179
now all these tools that we have, they're terrible and
1303
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.949
dangerous in many ways, but they are also very useful.
1304
01:02:19.969 --> 01:02:22.840
And one very useful thing they do is that You
1305
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.880
can send messages, you know, you click or you buy
1306
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.800
a ticket and you're sending a message and the industry
1307
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:31.659
has to listen because they want you to keep clicking,
1308
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:34.840
you know? And if you ignore, if you decide not
1309
01:02:34.889 --> 01:02:38.050
to click, not to buy the ticket, you're also sending
1310
01:02:38.090 --> 01:02:43.210
a message. So it's audiences who are somehow reshaping what
1311
01:02:43.289 --> 01:02:46.550
the industry is talking about, what voices are there, what
1312
01:02:46.590 --> 01:02:49.360
stories get to be made. it's still a process. We're
1313
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:51.860
not there yet, but, uh, but the idea I grew
1314
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.519
up like watching those films where every decision in, in
1315
01:02:55.579 --> 01:02:58.219
the movie business was made behind the desk and someone
1316
01:02:58.260 --> 01:02:59.670
was like, this is what they want to see.
1317
01:02:59.690 --> 01:03:00.210
Big cigar.
1318
01:03:00.309 --> 01:03:00.989
You know, big cigar.
1319
01:03:01.030 --> 01:03:01.989
Here's what we're going to do.
1320
01:03:02.010 --> 01:03:02.130
See?
1321
01:03:02.289 --> 01:03:03.630
Exactly. You got it right.
1322
01:03:03.650 --> 01:03:03.809
Yeah.
1323
01:03:04.150 --> 01:03:06.590
And today it's not like that. Today's people at home,
1324
01:03:06.769 --> 01:03:09.889
you know, clicking or not clicking, paying attention or not
1325
01:03:09.929 --> 01:03:14.519
paying attention. So if we as audience act with responsibility, uh,
1326
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:19.250
the responsibility that this, you know, tool, uh, brings or
1327
01:03:19.349 --> 01:03:23.570
gives you, uh, we, we are, we are having something
1328
01:03:23.630 --> 01:03:28.440
to say on this industry that somehow for a long time,
1329
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.119
it didn't seem to talk to us, you know, and
1330
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:33.739
now it is. So I think it's, I think it's cool.
1331
01:03:33.780 --> 01:03:36.340
I think I'm, I'm part of something big, you know,
1332
01:03:36.429 --> 01:03:39.349
I see many people coming from where I come from
1333
01:03:39.429 --> 01:03:42.710
having an opportunity. You were just talking about how cool
1334
01:03:42.769 --> 01:03:45.989
it was to travel with Javier in Spain and in
1335
01:03:46.530 --> 01:03:50.130
It is happening. It is happening somehow. And again, I
1336
01:03:50.289 --> 01:03:54.539
think we can be really proud because it's a moment
1337
01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:58.679
where you can be yourself. I grew up with people
1338
01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:00.550
telling me, are you going to work on your accent?
1339
01:04:00.590 --> 01:04:02.869
Are you going to clean your accent? And I was like,
1340
01:04:02.989 --> 01:04:05.869
clean your, well, I mean, why do you think it's
1341
01:04:05.929 --> 01:04:08.010
dirty or what's wrong with my accent?
1342
01:04:08.050 --> 01:04:08.880
My accent is mine.
1343
01:04:08.889 --> 01:04:11.019
It might not be yours, but you know, but when
1344
01:04:11.059 --> 01:04:13.619
I was 20, that was the thing is like, okay,
1345
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:16.159
you're doing great. What if you start working on your
1346
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.860
accent and you start sounding like these other people and
1347
01:04:18.900 --> 01:04:22.199
you can start doing what they can do. And today
1348
01:04:22.219 --> 01:04:24.539
is a moment where that is changing. I think, I mean,
1349
01:04:24.940 --> 01:04:27.599
I'm here because I bring what I am, you know?
1350
01:04:27.820 --> 01:04:28.039
Yes.
1351
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.989
And that's what got me here. I might not be
1352
01:04:31.050 --> 01:04:34.670
there and not there, but I'm here because you're exactly
1353
01:04:34.690 --> 01:04:35.050
where you're.
1354
01:04:34.949 --> 01:04:36.800
Supposed to be and where you should be. Yeah.
1355
01:04:36.940 --> 01:04:39.920
And that's kind of like a cool idea and message.
1356
01:04:40.659 --> 01:04:43.440
And also things are happening where sometimes you can do
1357
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:47.420
something in another context that not even thinking of traveling and,
1358
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.550
and that can resonate with someone here or in Europe
1359
01:04:51.690 --> 01:04:55.449
or in, you know, Japan or whatever. And so there's
1360
01:04:55.590 --> 01:04:58.559
also like a, I respect and, and, uh, and a
1361
01:04:58.619 --> 01:05:02.780
search for a specificity that today is really cool in,
1362
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:04.679
in the movie making, you know?
1363
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:08.469
Well, I'm very proud to call you a friend. I'm honored.
1364
01:05:08.489 --> 01:05:10.710
It was, it was one of the great honors of
1365
01:05:10.730 --> 01:05:12.590
my life that you came on my show in, uh,
1366
01:05:13.429 --> 01:05:17.130
Mexico city and, and blessed our cookie, uh, project there.
1367
01:05:17.570 --> 01:05:20.789
Just delighted, delighted to have you here. And I love
1368
01:05:20.809 --> 01:05:23.090
what you represent. You're, you're an artist and you're a
1369
01:05:23.090 --> 01:05:25.489
really good guy and, uh.
1370
01:05:25.849 --> 01:05:26.449
Just a pleasure.
1371
01:05:27.010 --> 01:05:29.889
Absolute pleasure to have you here. Thank you so much.
1372
01:05:29.909 --> 01:05:32.590
Please come back and let's have an adventure together. I'll
1373
01:05:32.630 --> 01:05:33.590
take you to Scotland.
1374
01:05:34.250 --> 01:05:38.409
Scotland, so much water. It's incredible.
1375
01:05:38.429 --> 01:05:41.010
That is not what the tourist bureau says. Scotland, so
1376
01:05:41.030 --> 01:05:41.690
much water.
1377
01:05:43.010 --> 01:05:46.010
It's so green, man. It is beautiful.
1378
01:05:46.789 --> 01:05:51.329
I accept your invitation to return to Mexico City and
1379
01:05:51.349 --> 01:05:54.420
appear on a telenovela with you. And live with you.
1380
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:55.820
I think that was mentioned at some point.
1381
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:56.820
That was mentioned.
1382
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:58.340
I get to live with him. No, no, I'm living
1383
01:05:58.360 --> 01:05:58.530
with him.
1384
01:05:58.539 --> 01:05:59.239
Triple bunk bed.
1385
01:05:59.380 --> 01:06:01.239
Yeah, triple bunk bed. You should come too.
1386
01:06:01.260 --> 01:06:01.599
I'm out.
1387
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:04.219
You're going to wake us up at night to ask
1388
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:07.400
him questions about Andor. And that bullshit is not happening.
1389
01:06:07.420 --> 01:06:09.619
And I'm going to wake you up to correct you
1390
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:10.860
on your accent.
1391
01:06:11.059 --> 01:06:12.000
Yes, please.
1392
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:12.760
In Spanish.
1393
01:06:13.139 --> 01:06:14.989
Very, very important. No, thank you so much.
1394
01:06:15.010 --> 01:06:15.719
Yeah, yeah.
1395
01:06:15.739 --> 01:06:18.889
This was so much fun. It's cool. And come back soon, Diego.
1396
01:06:18.909 --> 01:06:19.269
I will.
1397
01:06:20.849 --> 01:06:23.829
Thank you for everything. Seriously. Great to have you here. Oh, man.
1398
01:06:23.949 --> 01:06:24.809
Thank you. Thank you all.
1399
01:06:27.210 --> 01:06:30.980
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