Episode 233: HyperNormalisation

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Hello and welcome to episode 233 of Cold.
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Brew Got Me Like.
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Live from Nashville, Tennessee. Home of the speed cushion.
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That's right.
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They call them speed cushions here. I haven't had any coffee.
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And this show, of course, is sanctioned by Bob Geigel
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of the National Wrestling Alliance. Who we discussed last week. Yeah,
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it's a tie-in. It's a new thing where we talk
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about last week's episode. And try and tie it to
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the new one. Alright, hold on a second. I'm about
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to drink this Calafia shit that I've been carrying around
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like a freak.
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Oh, no.
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I don't care, because I'm getting my money's worth out
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of it. I've managed to drain this horrible bottle. I
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don't know, and I do think there's something wrong with it.
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For the brewers listening who don't know what Calafia is,
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it's a brand of cold brew you can buy at
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the supermarket. And, you know, not the best cold brew.
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It's not going to be out of a bottle. But
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for some reason, I've convinced myself that I'm saving money
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by buying bottles of it as opposed to making it myself.
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Is that true? I mean, you told me once that
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it takes a bunch of coffee because you used to
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make it.
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Right.
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Does it take a lot? You said it takes a
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lot of coffee to make it.
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Yeah, but that's a concentrate. So, I mean, you probably
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are not saving money.
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Oh.
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Oh, my God. I just drank it.
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Oh.
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Oh, my God.
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It's horrible.
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There's something definitely wrong with it. There could be... And
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considering RFK Jr. is in charge of... I mean, I'm
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probably drinking motor oil. Or some kind of... I mean,
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that's obviously some kind of malfunction. There's no way they
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could market that to anybody.
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No, I've had... My mouth has been where yours is
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right now.
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Jesus Christ.
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And it tastes like you're licking the bottom of a...
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A steel garbage can.
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Yeah, it's really fucking vile. It's called Espresso Blend. Do
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not get it. I don't... I've had other ones that were.
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Not as bad as that. I mean, that's like fucking unacceptable. And, uh... Sorry,
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Calafia Farms, but step it up. I used to like
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your shit. I used to drink it during the pandemic.
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I drank the... Not the Espresso Blend, though. I drank the...
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Like Light Roast. It has like a red label. But
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that is fucking disgusting. I mean, but I do think,
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in Calafita's defense, that somehow someone put the pesticide hose
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in the cold brew can or whatever. So, you know,
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something happened at the factory with the four employees they
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have running a 200 million square foot factory that used
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to have 600 employees.
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Now they probably have four guys, like, running around being like.
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You didn't put pesticide in the fucking espresso blend, did you?
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And he's like, I don't think so. i'm not sure
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i was in the middle i was on a i
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was on a video uh training session uh so i
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was trying to do a couple things at once.
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They haven't calibrated the testing robot like the coffee testing
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robot he hasn't been uh calibrated.
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Properly oh my god they're Although they're not going to
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have a coffee testing robot. They're not going to test
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the coffee. They're just going to be like, ship it out.
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We're not going to waste a robot on that. We're
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going to use the robots mostly for security because we're
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afraid this place is going to get invaded for no
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reason other than every single oligarch is paranoid. That's what
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they devote most of their time to. I mean, I
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would say that the main focus of Bamazam... Which the
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algorithm actually accepted. Like, in the chapters, headings for the
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AI chapters of our last episode, it says Bamazam. So
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it worked. They didn't figure out what we were talking about.
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Good.
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They.
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Whatever robots, like, looking at the.
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I mean, you know, the.
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Whatever agent. That's the worst. They're called agents.
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What are? AI agents? Oh, yeah. so I would say
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Bama Zam's main, like, like it's equally devoted to.
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Like, sure.
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They ship out ratchet sets, but they also, um, are
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obsessed with security. Like they're like equally invested in, in, uh,
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being paranoid. Um, also part of his data collection because
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bamazam has collected data on everything that they i'm sure
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there are trucks double as data collection they have cameras
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on them obviously um all over those trucks i'm sure
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um I mean, it's a paranoia slash data collection business
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model masquerading as a ratchet set delivery thing. Which is
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interesting because the media still treats companies as if they're
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just producing products. They don't really talk much about when
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a company has a security protocol that's almost as big
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as their actual product. mission statement like something's up i
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like to attribute to their paranoia but i'm sure it
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has more to do with data collection like i mean
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the reason why bamazam has 12 cameras and you have
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to give your social security number to come in the
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gate which they didn't do to me but they almost
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did i mean i don't know why they security it
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doesn't matter about your social security number because they can
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match your face i mean they can ai can match
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your face to They take a picture of your face
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when you enter their warehouse compound. They make you look
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into a video monitor. And that's it. Game over right there.
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And you say your name. And you tell your license
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plate number. So it's like, what is that? That has
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nothing to do with delivering ratchet sets. And why should
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we not talk about that when a business has gotten
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so big that it can branch out into data collection?
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Um....
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Either way, security protocols... The paranoia that either accompanies... AI...
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Or monopolies... Anyway, someone should write about whether it's paranoia
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or it's actually a market... You know, it's a part
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of their business. And how much of which is which.
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And ask old... Buzos... Questions like that for once, instead
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of asking him whether his rocket is doing all right
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or whatever they ask him. I mean, for real, these
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guys are getting away with murder and not being asked
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any appropriate questions because everybody's afraid they'll walk away from
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the microphone.
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Yeah, they used to be accountable to the newspaper, but
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that doesn't work anymore.
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Okay, two things.
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Well, we'll do a loading dock report. I don't know
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if I read the... Did I read the column that
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I wrote about global warming and golf?
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No.
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Okay, I'm going to read that too. But there's a
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loading dock report that I have to remember because I'm
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going to forget. It's just sort of a miserable one.
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Nothing really funny happened on the route today or this week.
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Fairly uneventful. Just some standard issue pallet delivery um but
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I may as well do it right now just because
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it's connected to complaining about um modern capitalism I didn't
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want to kick the show off exactly well I didn't
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really have an idea of how to kick the show
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off so I guess this is fine but thanks for
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listening and this is uh.
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Episode 233 exactly yeah exactly exactly.
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That's exactly right. That's the cold brew pronunciation of 233. So,
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what have you been up to, Greg? Before I start
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complaining about understaffed warehouses.
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I just got a speeding ticket.
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Oh, shit. That sucks.
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From Franklin to Nashville. Oh, sorry. Sorry. 20 years since
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I had a speeding ticket.
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That sucks.
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And I was just inside the city limits of Nashville.
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So he was on the right side of the road.
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And I was listening to inner pole about the new
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record yeah so that didn't help anything i was like
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ah inner poles makes you want to go fast and um.
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But i maybe i deserved it.
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And um because there's no ever any cops between here
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and nashville or Nashville and Franklin, and I always speed
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in the mornings, and there's no one ever out there.
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And it's pretty dangerous, because I got caught for going 88,
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you know, so you could easily go 90 and not
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think about it. And so maybe it's a good thing.
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Maybe it'll keep me safe in the long run. But
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the cops seemed a little bit.
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The cop approached me from my driver's side or passenger
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side window. And he was like, it was laser. It's
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all on video. It's like 88, 65. And I was like, okay.
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And then he, uh, he came back. He seemed kind
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of nervous. So it was odd. You normally, I'd be
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more nervous than him, but maybe he was a new
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cop or something. He was like, he was like my age,
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like fitness or middle fifties. Um, I don't know, I
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could end up going, he said I can go to
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traffic school, I can pay the fine, or I can
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go to traffic court. So, I'll see. But Tennessee's so
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backwards that I was thinking the fine might be 500 bucks,
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but I don't think it's going to be that bad.
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Because when you think they're going to throw the book
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at you, they don't. When you don't think it, they're
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going to throw the book at you. In Tennessee, in
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my experience.
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I wonder if Donald Trump's ever gotten a speeding ticket
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in his life. Probably not.
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Probably not.
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Nope. He always has someone else driving.
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But it's a direct hit to my pocketbook. Like, I'm
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not going to get that stereo component I've been eyeing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You're not going to go to JCPenney and.
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You were going to have a good time in the
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stereo department at JCPenney talking to their two salesmen just
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for the stereo department wearing ties and both having ranch
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houses with two cars in them. Now you have your
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stereo component dropped from a drone into your swimming pool.
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Did you see that stupid viral video of Amazon uses
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drones in certain parts of the country to deliver packages
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which is already like completely has to be illegal. I mean,
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it's illegal. There's no fucking way that's legal. I mean,
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if there was ever anything called legal and illegal, having
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a company that fucking sends drones into the airspace around
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your house as part of their delivery, you know, that's
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completely crazy. The drones have cameras on them. I mean,
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it's just a nutty idea that that would be a
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legal thing a company could do. But on top of it,
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the you know, they're working out the kinks or whatever,
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the same way they're working out the kinks on antidepressants.
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And this drone accidentally dropped the woman's package. Like the
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package was arriving and it was already like traumatizing anyway
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because this drone, I mean, drones were also used in
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warfare and policing. I mean, drones aren't the most comforting
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thing to have around your house. And you don't really
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know what they're about to drop. So I would say
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all that is like, should make, Drone delivery for packages
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illegal just because it would scare the fuck out of anybody.
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And then there's drones in your yard going– Where were we?
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What state was this? California maybe or something.
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Yeah.
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And it accidentally dropped the woman's package into her swimming
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pool after all that.
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So was she watching?
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Her ratchet set went directly.
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Was she like, oh, my God.
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Yes, and her ratchet set went directly in the swimming pool.
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It's all on video because the drone has a video camera.
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Well, they were both videoing each other. The drone was
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getting a good shot of this lady going, no, no, no.
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But then its AI thing was like, deploy, deploy, deploy.
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She was like, no.
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Yeah, so I wonder what was in there.
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Some oven mitts, maybe.
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Yeah, they were ruined. Drenched.
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You know, it's funny how fast time goes because I
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was a driver's helper when I was out of work
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after the documentary channel when I was 40. And I
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hung out with this driver for like a month until
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my knees gave out because I ran so fast that
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he didn't know I was running fast. He didn't tell
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me to slow down. I blew my knees out. Basically.
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And he didn't even notice. He's like, you having trouble
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down there?
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It's great though. People like Jared Kushner would be like,
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thank you for your service. So I was a driver's
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helper again.
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Like I was after college and then I was after
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the documentary channel as a 40 year old until my
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knee couldn't take it anymore. But I was, the news
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came down in 2000, I believe it was 2014 or
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2013 probably that Amazon was going to deliver via drones.
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you feel threatened by that? And he was like, oh, no.
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He's like, no, buddy. Nah, we'll still be good. And
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now 13 years later, they're still working on it. So
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they just won't give up.
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Definitely not. They've got, I mean, the only thing they're
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devoting staffing to is trying to develop ways to cut staff.
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I mean, that's the whole Bama Zam. Actually, Bama Zam
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is hard to say. I really wish I could say
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the regular word. I don't like saying it too many times,
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but Bamazam, when I worked there last year in the
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office building, their whole workforce is pretty much working to
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just eliminate workers. I mean, that's all they're doing in there.
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They're trying to figure out ways to cut staff. And
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most of the high-end engineering stuff is explicitly devoted to
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robotic replacement for humans. Um, and that's just a disheartening job,
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you know? I mean, that's not any kind of job.
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I mean, that's a, that's a job you're supposed to
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walk away from and say, I'm not doing this job.
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Like no one should be participating in trying to take jobs,
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which is the only way people can survive, uh, in
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a capitalist society. You should never, ever take a job
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where you're working to eliminate, uh, work. Um, and that's
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what people are doing because, um, We have no regulations
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because all this would be illegal. All of it. AI
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would be completely illegal. It is illegal. But anyway, so
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that it's illegal and it's also comical in its own way.
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You know, it's fun to watch like robots winning running
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races and then falling apart and or smashing into vending
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machines because they can't stop. You know what I'm talking about?
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Yeah.
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Like these running races with robots. Like, I mean, that's
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not any fun. No one wants to see that. I mean,
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it's like monster trucks except no fun. Like, we're supposed
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to be dead serious. Like, look at this. This is important. Look.
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Who's that documentary filmmaker that you like? Hyper Realism or Hyper? Oh, God.
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I can't remember his name. I can't believe it because he's. Well, anyway,
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we need a documentary. Hyper Normalization.
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Yeah.
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We need a documentary from him. Because all that he
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was talking about.
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He just makes the same documentary over and over again.
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They're all good.
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He needs to use the robot footage and make sense
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out of that. Because I need his help to interpret
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life these days. He always seems like he was taking
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old information and kind of making it like, okay, this
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is where we're headed. Then all of a sudden we
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jumped way past what he was warning about. And now
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we're way past into his own.
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What's his name?
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Richard....
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I recommend to anybody listening that they watch Hypernormalization if
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they haven't watched it. Or any of his documentaries. Because
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from what I can see is most of them are
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making the same point.
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Adam Curtis. Yeah.
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Adam Curtis.
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2016.
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BBC somehow funded these documentaries that are the most depressing.
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They present a very bleak view of modern life. And
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I don't know why BBC would fund them. but there
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must be some well-intentioned people somewhere in the BBC, because
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there's nothing about hyper-normalization that would make you happy about
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the current situation. So, you know, good work to whoever
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puts that stuff out, and whatever good people are still
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left in the BBC trying to do something constructive. Because, yeah,
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it occurred to me that I couldn't believe that something
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as bleak as that was broadcast on a for-profit I mean,
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BBC is not supposed to be... I guess it's supposed
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to be a non-profit. But I mean, it's still.
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Yeah, it's funded by the state. So he is making documentaries.
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It said two years ago he made something called Bitter Lake.
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A documentary on the history of Afghanistan.
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Hypernormalization Part 8. I told you so. Is anyone listening?
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And um then adam curtis the mayfair set episode one
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who pays wins.
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Right so he still we already know.
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He has a youtube channel that i am not i'm
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gonna subscribe to.
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Things we already know but are worth repeating over and
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over again Which is why I talked about billionaires in
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the advice column for like three years straight. Because it
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was the only relevant topic. There are certain topics that
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are so big that they squash all the other topics.
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So he's trying to explain that we're in a post-truth,
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post-reality world. A world so complicated and interwoven that nobody
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can either even figure it out, let alone govern it.
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So that pretty much we're at the mercy of, um,
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the banking system. And, um, that any, any policy that's
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made is useless to stop this organism we've created, which
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is like this almost self-propelled money system that, um, So
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even political action by different countries is really just spectacle.
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It's just us being distracted because none of it can
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add up to anything because every country is invested in
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each other. Since everything's entwined, there aren't really any countries.
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Each country is dependent on others for goods and services
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to the point where there aren't any countries. So all
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this firing missiles at each other and stuff is all
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theater and doesn't do anything. It has nothing to do
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with what is controlling everything. our destiny and our destiny
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is completely controlled by this supply chain. Um, and without
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the supply chain, everything falls apart. Um, and there's no
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way to affect it because it's too complicated. So it's
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just can be tweaked and fucked with like Trump with
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the tariffs, but ultimately you just hurt yourself by even
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fucking with it. Anyway, just that, that's his message. His
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message is, um, that everything it's, everything that's done by
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anybody at this point is just theater because we're all um,
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in a situation where nothing can be, um, fixed or
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broken or it's all, we're just at the mercy of
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this system, which is just, I couldn't believe the BBC
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would broadcast that because he does a good job proving it. Um,
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and goes back all the way to us blaming Libya
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for blowing up like when Lebanon, gosh, I can't remember,
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but there was that time in the eighties when, um,
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When somebody drove a jeep full of explosives into a
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military barracks, it was a huge story at the time.
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It was just like 300 U.S. troops got killed or something.
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Maybe it wasn't 300, but it was some big number.
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In Beirut or something?
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Yes. And it was like done by some country that
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the United States couldn't. attack like saudi arabia some one
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of those things like 9-11 where it's like we'll attack
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afghanistan instead of saudi arabia because we're trading partners with
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saudi arabia and even though saudi arabia did 9-11 we
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can't attack them so we'll just attack afghanistan for no
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fucking reason and also because maybe we want to attack
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afghanistan because they have some kind of resources we'd like
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to have for us so we can stick them in
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the monetary system except that we'd get the prop whatever
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it's just not about what it's supposed to be about
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at all But even to the point where they will
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invade the wrong country just because they have to do
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something because the masses are invested in this we're in
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a good guy's bad guy's world. But the same thing
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happened when that barracks in Beirut was blown up. Somehow
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it was an ally of ours had done it or
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it was too complicated. We had too many trading things.
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involved with this country that blew up our troops. So
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we invaded Libya, who didn't do it. But it was
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just because we had to say, oh, somebody did it.
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And so he makes the point that Libya was invaded
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for no fucking reason. They just basically made Muammar Gaddafi
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a bad guy because it fit in this play that
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they're doing. But the economic realities of how we get
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our goods and services made it impossible for us to actually... Anyway,
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that politics is all bullshit, really. It's just a.
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It's a way for people who are involved in politics
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to personally enrich themselves. But beyond that, it's not actually
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going to– like it's not America first because there is
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no America. It's not Britain first because there is no Britain.
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There's just this big tentacled group of banks and billionaires
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and international monetary fund and all these things that nobody knows.
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The World Bank, these are the things that people don't
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even understand, including me. But they're the things that are–
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they're the real governors of our world, the way it's
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been set up. Because we've trashed any kind of culture.
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There's just a money culture. There's no actual culture. And
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that is just so bleak. But anyway, I was just thinking,
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I wonder if Amazon would think like, hey, listen, what
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we need to do is, is there some way we
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can dangle a person off that drone and hold the
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Ratchet set so they can eyeball to see if it's
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being dropped in the right place until we can train
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these things more properly. And we would give them, you know,
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maybe time and a half. Right. For being dangled. I mean,
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also think about how much fun that would be. Smitty,
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wouldn't you like to be up there in the air?
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Time and a half. One extra day of paid time off.
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How about that? And you just make sure that none
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of the packages are getting dropped in pools.
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And you get to take home some of our damaged
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detergent boxes. Hell yeah.
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He's like, all right. Detergent's expensive.
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One of these things, and I'm going to start watching
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at least one of them. Adam Curtis, Episode 2, The
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Living Dead. The title is, You Have Used Me as
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a Fish Long Enough.
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Yeah, Adam Curtis is on one. That's what they say
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at the BBC. Curtis is on one again. Now he's
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calling himself a fish.
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He's fucking so mad.
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What's he mad about? Sort of the same stuff. Here
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he comes. Be quiet. He's so mad. Watch out.
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Just get out of his way.
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He comes by and he's like, hello adam how are
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you how the fuck do you think i am get
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the fuck out of my way.
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Go in the editing room to cut together grainy footage
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of bad things that's.
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What he does he makes collages it's also cool as
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he makes his point by like there's lots of uh
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Lots of just B-roll or random images connected to... They're
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beautiful films. They're quite long. So the BBC chops them
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up into episodes. Or at least Hypernormalization was. I don't
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know if they're still broadcasting his stuff, but I think
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they do. I think he's allowed to run around the
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BBC building in a rumpled suit muttering. But thanks, Adam Curtis.
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I mean, he's an obsessive. Probably reminds me of the
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guy who wrote Power Broker.
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Yeah.
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That same kind of person that we need. We do need,
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you know. It's like he's reaching people. I knew my
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introduction to the idea of like the ideas he's talking
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about in hyper normalization are in the movie Network. And
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that's why Network blew me away because it says the
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same thing. It says there's no countries anymore. There's just money.
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And it's all interconnected. So there's no real nationalism. It's
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all horseshit. And it's like I just never thought of that.
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I didn't believe it. I was, you know, we were still,
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we were brought up in the cold war and the
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cold war was horseshit to some extent. It was like, uh,
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kept everybody occupied while they cut regulations, you know, you know,
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companies merged, you know, we were all invested in this
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cold war, you know, it's like, um, and it's unclear.
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Some of the people involved in the cold war, like
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the power people might've been invested in it too. But, um,
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But just so much of what we are doing is
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not what it seems. And it's helpful to have someone
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point it out, but then you also get, you feel
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powerless because then you go out in the street and say, hey,
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this is all bullshit, and you get hog-tied and thrown
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in a fucking ICE detention center. So, you know, you're
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supposed to And then it comes down to it. This
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thing is supposed to just collapse under its own weight and,
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you know, or a glacier shows up, you know, and
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then it's all done. But it'd be nice if it
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wasn't so, so like that, that was the only way out,
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but that's sort of the thing. It's like, it doesn't offer,
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I don't think Adam Curtis offers this. He doesn't offer
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a solution. He's just trying to let you know. So
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you don't walk around like a dope, you know, and put,
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don't tread on me license plates on your car, you know,
486
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because we're all being tread on and we're all being
487
00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:39.460
tread on by the same thing. And it's not, liberal
488
00:29:40.339 --> 00:29:43.519
or whatever these people think. They're being tread on by
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00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:44.369
Bank of America.
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00:29:45.289 --> 00:29:48.369
He began a PhD and taught in politics, but ultimately
491
00:29:48.410 --> 00:29:52.230
became disillusioned with academia and decided to leave, and he
492
00:29:52.269 --> 00:29:54.990
applied at the BBC. was hired to make a film
493
00:29:55.029 --> 00:29:57.869
for one of his training courses comparing designer clothes and
494
00:29:57.910 --> 00:30:00.210
music videos to the design of weapons.
495
00:30:03.069 --> 00:30:05.609
Yeah, like who does that? Who would have thought of
496
00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:11.390
that as a pitch? It's great. Yeah, like what is that?
497
00:30:11.470 --> 00:30:13.150
He means like in the 80s, like the way people
498
00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:16.769
were dressed up in like shiny fabrics. They were like
499
00:30:18.269 --> 00:30:20.089
inadvertently dressing up like missiles.
500
00:30:20.609 --> 00:30:21.069
I guess so.
501
00:30:22.509 --> 00:30:25.390
It's probably true. Like techno is definitely like a way
502
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to introduce. Probably true. You're easily swayed. Well, techno was
503
00:30:32.019 --> 00:30:34.180
probably like an introduction to the military. That was like
504
00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:38.319
the soundtrack of the military industrial complex. Like, uh, like,
505
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:43.190
you know, I love like Thomas Dolby and like Gary Newman,
506
00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:45.910
but that's definitely like Gary, if you listen to a
507
00:30:45.950 --> 00:30:48.369
Gary Newman, Newman song, like down in the park, you're
508
00:30:48.410 --> 00:30:52.299
not like, If you go into a dark room with
509
00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:54.359
strobe lights and listen to Down in the Park by
510
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.859
Gary Newman, you're definitely being conditioned to be in a
511
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.339
bad mood and be happy about it.
512
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.369
Curtis also rejects being labeled a leftist, being called a leftist,
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calling the idea rubbish.
514
00:31:08.849 --> 00:31:10.690
Yeah, because his thing is like, there's no such thing
515
00:31:10.750 --> 00:31:15.490
as left or right. There's just money. And there's just
516
00:31:15.750 --> 00:31:21.329
oil and Yeah, there's just, and then everything is spectacle
517
00:31:22.009 --> 00:31:24.869
that we deal with. The media is there to just
518
00:31:25.789 --> 00:31:29.990
spin tales that keep everybody confused. And that they don't
519
00:31:30.029 --> 00:31:32.190
know it either. Like you wouldn't, it's not saying even
520
00:31:32.230 --> 00:31:35.299
like people like Dana Bash actually think they're part of
521
00:31:35.339 --> 00:31:39.420
some important story. Or if fucking Steve Witkoff brings us
522
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:44.809
to a story that's horrible and illustrative of this point. Oh,
523
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:46.900
I said illustrative two weeks in a row. I said
524
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.549
it last week, too. Hold on a second. It's a
525
00:31:51.589 --> 00:31:53.509
cold brew word of the day, illustrative.
526
00:31:54.990 --> 00:31:58.150
He says, what's astonishing in our time is how the
527
00:31:58.230 --> 00:32:02.289
left here has completely failed to come up with any alternatives.
528
00:32:03.289 --> 00:32:06.410
And I think you may well see a lefty libertarianism
529
00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:10.000
emerging because people will be much more sympathetic to it.
530
00:32:12.609 --> 00:32:15.049
Yeah, that was his point when? A long time ago.
531
00:32:15.049 --> 00:32:16.769
2012.
532
00:32:16.769 --> 00:32:23.140
Yeah, because that's completely evident now. Because the left in
533
00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:27.940
America is now turning on its own people harder than
534
00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:34.460
it's turning on the people putting people in ICE prisons.
535
00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:36.670
I mean, they're going after their own... I mean, he's
536
00:32:36.829 --> 00:32:43.049
exactly right. We're dealing with people like People like Pod
537
00:32:43.069 --> 00:32:46.289
Save America, these centrists like Ezra Klein and stuff like that,
538
00:32:46.329 --> 00:32:51.490
these guys are pitching that there's some way forward for
539
00:32:51.549 --> 00:32:53.549
liberalism where you don't change anything.
540
00:32:58.670 --> 00:33:04.960
Yeah, he has his roots in socialism, Curtis. In 2021,
541
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.420
he said– he stated having sympathies to radicalism and that
542
00:33:08.500 --> 00:33:14.359
progressivism is his politics. He notes, again, his political inconsistency, saying,
543
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:18.579
I'm emotionally sympathetic to radicalism. I'm progressive. I mean, that's
544
00:33:18.619 --> 00:33:21.200
really what my politics are. I mean, I'm typically of
545
00:33:21.259 --> 00:33:24.759
my time. I don't have a consistent set of politics,
546
00:33:24.819 --> 00:33:29.519
and I always suspect people who do. But I'm progressive,
547
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:32.140
so I try to understand what went wrong with radicalism.
548
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:38.839
That's how I like to see myself, but no one
549
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.670
I know thinks that. that type of person I am.
550
00:33:42.630 --> 00:33:43.869
I've been called a centrist.
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00:33:44.869 --> 00:33:50.230
Who calls you a centrist? I don't know. A voice
552
00:33:50.259 --> 00:33:50.759
in your head?
553
00:33:51.380 --> 00:33:51.680
No.
554
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:56.319
Some real person out loud? Yeah.
555
00:33:57.059 --> 00:33:58.640
But, you know, I don't think of you as a
556
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.480
centrist at all. I think of myself as a journalist.
557
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:02.680
Yeah, you're an intellectual.
558
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:07.079
And a journalist has a duty like an electrician. Like
559
00:34:07.099 --> 00:34:11.289
you're not going to Use the wrong wire at the
560
00:34:11.309 --> 00:34:11.849
wrong time.
561
00:34:13.809 --> 00:34:14.590
Holy crap.
562
00:34:15.570 --> 00:34:20.219
Hell yeah. I'm trying to connect the circuits is what
563
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:20.440
I'm saying.
564
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.559
I know what you mean. No, that's why you're more
565
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.420
reasonable than me. And like a lot of times on
566
00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:27.769
this show over the years, you've said like, you know,
567
00:34:27.809 --> 00:34:30.989
that's not right. Or, you know, like you're– that's– I
568
00:34:31.030 --> 00:34:35.719
get very emotional and I operate on– instincts which i
569
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.420
think are my instincts are pretty good but they still
570
00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:42.179
have holes in them and i can be um i'm
571
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.800
very susceptible to new arguments that i like and and
572
00:34:45.889 --> 00:34:49.530
i i don't necessarily check into the opposing arguments but
573
00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:53.289
you know so many opposing arguments at this at this
574
00:34:53.369 --> 00:34:55.530
point are bad faith so it's like i do feel
575
00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:57.730
safer in this moment i think it is good to
576
00:34:57.789 --> 00:35:02.090
just go with your gut because um you know, we
577
00:35:02.150 --> 00:35:04.309
are dealing with good and evil to a point here.
578
00:35:04.369 --> 00:35:08.090
That's not, it's not really like subtle. So I'm, it's like,
579
00:35:08.110 --> 00:35:09.610
I feel like it's my time to shine where I
580
00:35:09.659 --> 00:35:12.480
could just, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good at like
581
00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:20.980
instinctively knowing, um, you know, when someone is lying, um, and,
582
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.690
or when they're being, you know, I can see like, Oh,
583
00:35:23.750 --> 00:35:26.309
I see what you're doing. You're trying to push this
584
00:35:26.389 --> 00:35:29.949
idea where you're going to make money and somehow dress
585
00:35:29.969 --> 00:35:31.309
it up in some kind of politics.
586
00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:35.409
But....
587
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:39.539
Anyway, I don't know what... What was it? What were
588
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:39.900
you talking about?
589
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.519
What were we talking about?
590
00:35:40.579 --> 00:35:44.099
I don't remember. You were talking about being an electrician.
591
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.079
I was an electrician, yeah.
592
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.400
Oh, thinking about.
593
00:35:51.420 --> 00:35:51.500
We.
594
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:54.199
Were talking about Adam Curtis.
595
00:35:55.949 --> 00:36:01.380
Oh, my politics is progressive. I remember... But the thought
596
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.639
I had was at least now it's getting down to
597
00:36:04.699 --> 00:36:08.389
brass tacks. Like we said, the title of the last episode,
598
00:36:08.510 --> 00:36:11.610
people have left their morals at the curb. And so
599
00:36:11.710 --> 00:36:15.309
I remember being in 2008 when the financial crisis was
600
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starting and the central bank was handing out money to
601
00:36:19.690 --> 00:36:21.789
Wall Street. And I was like, this is the end.
602
00:36:21.829 --> 00:36:25.030
I mean, the fix is in. And that's just such
603
00:36:25.179 --> 00:36:29.619
ancient history. At least now we're further along toward the truth.
604
00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:32.559
of the situation as opposed to just living in the
605
00:36:32.619 --> 00:36:37.980
muddle of, Oh, we're pretending that we have, um, decent education.
606
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.960
We're pretending we have decent jobs. We're pretending we have
607
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.519
decent healthcare because we don't. And now it's clear that
608
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.500
we don't. And so at least it's closer to a
609
00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:47.929
reality that people might react to.
610
00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:50.199
Well, yeah, that it's gonna, I mean, it's closer to
611
00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:54.659
the reality that this will collapse, uh, because people will
612
00:36:54.699 --> 00:36:59.280
feel too sad and too angry and too poor. They'll
613
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:02.949
be too poor. This system doesn't work.
614
00:37:02.989 --> 00:37:03.329
It works.
615
00:37:04.869 --> 00:37:09.309
It's running on fumes right now. I mean, it's a
616
00:37:09.329 --> 00:37:14.559
system that's definitely going to, you know, pulling this back. Also,
617
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.760
that's Adam Curtis's sort of point is like pulling this
618
00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:19.039
back from the brink is like, it's not like some
619
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:24.219
politician can just fix this. You couldn't, you know, as
620
00:37:24.300 --> 00:37:29.320
much as, you know, Zoran Mamdani might be restoring some
621
00:37:29.429 --> 00:37:32.650
sense of, he's saying like, I can fix the roads.
622
00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:40.739
I can, um, make the buses free, um, in New York,
623
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:45.480
you know, and that's like, feels good. But this entire
624
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:57.170
system that the larger picture is like so dark that, um, that, that,
625
00:37:57.250 --> 00:38:01.500
you know, it's like, we're some of the luckiest people
626
00:38:01.579 --> 00:38:03.860
on earth to be able to just be here complaining about,
627
00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:05.980
I mean, I'm complaining, I don't know about you, not complaining,
628
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.460
but you know, like being like, gosh, I feel like
629
00:38:07.500 --> 00:38:09.099
I'm under a lot of pressure. I feel like in this,
630
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:13.570
I'm disheartened, these kinds of things, but we're alive, you know,
631
00:38:13.590 --> 00:38:16.550
we're alive. We're not in Nepal getting hit by, you know,
632
00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:21.730
cause we've moved to like high ground, basically America's, you know,
633
00:38:21.750 --> 00:38:26.909
that it was chosen because it was, I don't know.
634
00:38:26.969 --> 00:38:32.139
It's just by itself. I'm not surrounded by, I guess,
635
00:38:32.219 --> 00:38:34.969
melting glaciers or safer than people who live next to
636
00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:37.150
melting glaciers. Whatever it is, we're privileged to be in
637
00:38:37.170 --> 00:38:40.510
this moment. But the big picture is no matter what
638
00:38:40.550 --> 00:38:42.769
Zoran Mamdani is doing, even though– and I think it's
639
00:38:42.809 --> 00:38:45.409
great that he's trying to do stuff. Big picture, this
640
00:38:45.449 --> 00:38:47.639
thing is going down. I mean this is not– this
641
00:38:47.699 --> 00:38:51.800
is going down. Like we have real estate agents talking
642
00:38:51.860 --> 00:38:54.360
to– I mean at least we're seeing it. You're right.
643
00:38:54.380 --> 00:38:56.119
I mean I was about to say the real estate
644
00:38:56.139 --> 00:38:59.079
agent is talking to Vladimir Putin. Did you see this?
645
00:38:59.099 --> 00:38:59.239
Yeah.
646
00:38:59.630 --> 00:39:03.070
They sent Witkoff and, and Jared Kushner over to talk
647
00:39:03.110 --> 00:39:11.699
to Vladimir Putin like yesterday. And in the press conference,
648
00:39:11.739 --> 00:39:14.800
like Steve Witkoff was like, it's just basically an honor
649
00:39:14.820 --> 00:39:17.420
to be here with Mr. Putin because it's just so exciting.
650
00:39:17.739 --> 00:39:20.190
And he's like, I just remember this forever. When we retire,
651
00:39:20.230 --> 00:39:22.710
we're going to talk about this forever. Just hanging out
652
00:39:22.730 --> 00:39:25.389
with you. Like basically, thanks for the memories. Like, I
653
00:39:25.409 --> 00:39:29.659
can't believe I'm hanging out with Vladimir Putin. Like, You know, I...
654
00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:33.119
Vladimir Putin's a murderer you know I mean like there's
655
00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:37.139
just no he's not just a little murderer Vladimir Putin's
656
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:41.440
a fucking vicious motherfucker who's killed thousands and millions of
657
00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:44.920
people I mean I don't know millions but hundreds of
658
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:49.110
thousands just in this Ukraine war I mean, and they're
659
00:39:49.139 --> 00:39:51.329
sitting there just saying like, we I'm sitting next to
660
00:39:51.369 --> 00:39:53.630
a treating him like a celebrity. Of course they are,
661
00:39:53.690 --> 00:39:57.369
because they're not even fucking statesmen. They're just fucking businessmen
662
00:39:57.429 --> 00:39:59.650
who are, of course, impressed by their new golf buddy,
663
00:40:00.530 --> 00:40:04.510
Vladimir Putin. But that is like the end of everything.
664
00:40:04.550 --> 00:40:09.030
I mean, that's like that's like shows how unserious everything is.
665
00:40:09.510 --> 00:40:12.809
And that only works as long as goods and services
666
00:40:12.889 --> 00:40:16.789
keep swirling around. And when they stop, people starve. Because
667
00:40:16.809 --> 00:40:19.550
we're all connected. So if Vladimir Putin drops a nuclear
668
00:40:19.570 --> 00:40:22.530
bomb on Ukraine, which is totally possible that he would
669
00:40:22.550 --> 00:40:24.969
do that, then we would just have to work around it.
670
00:40:25.030 --> 00:40:28.239
And that's what everyone would do. Because we need the
671
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.460
supply chains that are near the ground zero or whatever.
672
00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:34.719
I mean, there's not going to be... If America used
673
00:40:34.780 --> 00:40:40.380
a nuclear weapon against Iran, what would Americans do? I
674
00:40:40.420 --> 00:40:42.960
would say they would probably do nothing. There would be
675
00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:44.699
a small number of people who would take to the streets.
676
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:48.199
Maybe 100,000 people would run around Washington. They'd all get hogtied.
677
00:40:48.420 --> 00:40:49.519
And that would be the end of that. And then
678
00:40:49.539 --> 00:40:52.139
people just wouldn't go to Iran anymore. Now, if you
679
00:40:52.179 --> 00:40:58.219
told someone from the 1800s that that would be how
680
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.659
resigned we are to the global order just being like
681
00:41:00.699 --> 00:41:03.059
this sort of machine that's out of control that we
682
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.949
can't really fuck with, I mean, that's sort of stunning. But,
683
00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:13.380
I mean, we are in a moment where this stuff–
684
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:25.260
is way out of control and we're not getting the
685
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:32.570
really full horrible picture because of our media not being
686
00:41:32.610 --> 00:41:34.670
able to tell the truth because it won't sell products.
687
00:41:36.010 --> 00:41:39.070
Well, and the big non-truth or one of them is
688
00:41:39.769 --> 00:41:43.320
we just can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. Right.
689
00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:45.889
That's the same thing as the materials in Iraq when
690
00:41:45.929 --> 00:41:48.409
we had to go into Iraq. You know, the sales
691
00:41:48.449 --> 00:41:52.110
pitch doesn't work after the fifth, sixth. I mean, it's working.
692
00:41:52.210 --> 00:41:53.889
But it also doesn't matter because no one can do
693
00:41:53.929 --> 00:41:54.469
anything about it.
694
00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:55.260
Yeah.
695
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.860
So the sales pitch can be stupider and stupider and
696
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.679
people have to just be like, yep, part of being
697
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:02.699
in this version of reality is we just get lied
698
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:04.679
to our face all the time and we just have
699
00:42:04.699 --> 00:42:07.050
to accept it. Well, it doesn't.
700
00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:10.630
Work when cnn just repeats the sales pitch like it's
701
00:42:10.690 --> 00:42:13.469
fact and not a sales pitch and it's not a lie.
702
00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:15.909
Okay let's do i'll do something i want to do
703
00:42:16.329 --> 00:42:18.170
i'm going to read a little new york times article
704
00:42:18.869 --> 00:42:21.449
and you can let me know what speaking as an
705
00:42:21.489 --> 00:42:26.389
electrician what um what you think of this because it's
706
00:42:26.429 --> 00:42:28.329
one of these tag team you know it's where it's
707
00:42:28.349 --> 00:42:30.969
like eight harvard graduates got together to write this article
708
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.860
and i consider it to be an absolute failure um
709
00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:38.739
But I understand even Harvard graduates have to make a
710
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.940
living somehow.
711
00:42:42.139 --> 00:42:42.380
Right.
712
00:42:44.619 --> 00:42:45.420
How do I get to New.
713
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:47.320
York Times?
714
00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:47.820
Oh, I have it.
715
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:53.340
Okay. And just to clarify my position on the New
716
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:57.610
York Times, I was in journalism. I know how much
717
00:42:57.690 --> 00:43:00.829
work these journalists do to get their stuff in the
718
00:43:00.869 --> 00:43:01.389
New York Times.
719
00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:02.309
But I don't.
720
00:43:02.769 --> 00:43:06.769
I don't. say that it's not a I can be
721
00:43:06.809 --> 00:43:09.289
critical of the New York Times like I don't love
722
00:43:09.329 --> 00:43:11.570
the New York Times I use it you know I
723
00:43:11.690 --> 00:43:14.639
use it and I don't stand by it or anything
724
00:43:14.860 --> 00:43:18.940
it's made mistakes and I'm just a liberal rag or
725
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if not a liberal rag I just know how much
726
00:43:21.019 --> 00:43:24.139
work goes into these articles and most the ones I
727
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.500
read are not political so anyway.
728
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Well no one talks about the fact that speaking of
729
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.820
people who take the New York Times seriously like and
730
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I do too Also, you can read some stuff that's
731
00:43:36.579 --> 00:43:42.050
not connected to them trying to cover up for politicians.
732
00:43:42.929 --> 00:43:46.690
And whether they're covering up for or staying neutral for
733
00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:50.880
during a Nazi situation, like unfortunately staying neutral is the
734
00:43:50.900 --> 00:43:53.840
same as covering up for. But when they're not doing that,
735
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:58.070
they're often doing great stuff. So I mean– I'm not
736
00:43:58.130 --> 00:44:00.550
always mad at the New York times. I just am sometimes.
737
00:44:00.610 --> 00:44:03.269
And like Ezra Klein, you know, got caught and a
738
00:44:03.329 --> 00:44:06.010
lot of my friends listen to Ezra Klein. Um, and
739
00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:09.110
I don't like to bash him because I understand if that, like,
740
00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:12.510
I like my favorite podcasts and, and, and Ezra Klein
741
00:44:12.949 --> 00:44:17.519
kind of preaches a hopeful sort of like, this is
742
00:44:17.539 --> 00:44:20.539
going to work out kind of thing. Um, and, and
743
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I understand that whatever. I don't want to shit on
744
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.519
Ezra Klein all the time, but I mean, what went
745
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by the thing that went by about Ezra Klein and
746
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.000
that everyone let go because it's just so, he means
747
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:33.800
a lot to a lot of people who just get
748
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.469
a lot of comfort from him by sitting there and
749
00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:39.369
looking like, you know, a clean, uh, you know, whatever,
750
00:44:39.389 --> 00:44:42.349
a well-fed, what in, in shape liberal who says like,
751
00:44:42.389 --> 00:44:47.489
basically things are going to be okay. Um, and, uh, Well-fed. Oh,
752
00:44:47.530 --> 00:44:49.409
my God. So anyway, but he went– he's in a
753
00:44:49.469 --> 00:44:53.079
secret society with Thiel, with Peter Thiel. And it was
754
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.019
a big story on the internet, but it was not
755
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picked up obviously by the New York Times.
756
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Are you kidding me?
757
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No.
758
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:02.619
Oh, God. That's so disappointing. And– Not that I care.
759
00:45:02.659 --> 00:45:03.789
It's still disappointing though.
760
00:45:04.110 --> 00:45:07.349
It's something called like the– it's Peter Thiel's secret society
761
00:45:07.389 --> 00:45:10.670
called the– God, I don't know what people call it.
762
00:45:10.710 --> 00:45:16.199
The– What's a good name for a secret society? It's
763
00:45:16.300 --> 00:45:18.800
the same thing they name fucking condo complexes, you know.
764
00:45:20.820 --> 00:45:23.820
Forest Glen. Yeah, it's like Forest Glen Society. And it's
765
00:45:23.860 --> 00:45:27.210
really just like, it's like a fascist fucking orgy that
766
00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:29.369
they have in the woods once a year. And everybody
767
00:45:29.389 --> 00:45:31.269
just gets together and is like, can you believe everybody
768
00:45:31.289 --> 00:45:35.210
thinks we're against each other? They high five. So like, yeah,
769
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like they, someone went on the Wayback Machine and found
770
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like the When they were sloppier– yeah, when they were
771
00:45:44.230 --> 00:45:47.309
sloppier on the– they went on that internet thing where
772
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you can go through history and they found a time
773
00:45:49.989 --> 00:45:53.909
where that organization had a sloppier website and they accidentally
774
00:45:54.210 --> 00:45:59.980
revealed their mailing list in the– whatever. They went through
775
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.960
the code or they went through the– and they found.
776
00:46:02.739 --> 00:46:05.719
A partial list of– The newspaper's mailing list?
777
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.309
No, the mailing list of the secret society.
778
00:46:08.329 --> 00:46:09.150
OK. All right.
779
00:46:10.230 --> 00:46:12.909
The dumb asses who run the secret society accidentally didn't
780
00:46:12.949 --> 00:46:15.750
know that they left a trail, a digital trail of
781
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part of their guest list. And the guest list was
782
00:46:18.869 --> 00:46:22.079
a mix of, of the worst people in the world
783
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.239
mixed in with all these people were supposed to believe
784
00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:26.820
are good, are good people like Ezra Klein. And, and
785
00:46:26.860 --> 00:46:28.860
it was a major story. Everyone thought it was the
786
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:30.460
end of Ezra Klein, but it just didn't get picked
787
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.489
up by any major outlets. So no one knows about it. Um,
788
00:46:33.579 --> 00:46:38.489
but you know, um, that's the kind of thing that
789
00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:41.110
the New York times allows to go by because it's like,
790
00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:43.489
we can't, Nate is one of our, what's his name?
791
00:46:45.409 --> 00:46:47.820
Ezra Klein. No, Ezra Klein is like one of our
792
00:46:47.860 --> 00:46:50.960
big moneymakers. Like that's something like for business sake, they're
793
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:52.059
not going to take him down.
794
00:46:53.940 --> 00:46:57.159
Ezra Klein keeps Americans in America. I was just thinking
795
00:46:57.179 --> 00:46:59.760
that earlier, like, you know, we are, we're all still
796
00:46:59.820 --> 00:47:02.800
buying the sales pitch. You know, we could easily move,
797
00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:05.730
you know, our families are here, but, If there was–
798
00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:07.309
like Uruguay is supposed to have a really.
799
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.110
Good way of life. We couldn't easily move. I would
800
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argue that we can't easily move.
801
00:47:11.489 --> 00:47:12.110
I mean it's possible.
802
00:47:12.130 --> 00:47:13.349
Let me check my bank account and see if I
803
00:47:13.369 --> 00:47:16.809
can move. Hold on a second. I mean if we
804
00:47:16.829 --> 00:47:17.590
get our– Capital One.
805
00:47:17.610 --> 00:47:18.510
Let me see. Let me see. I got to put
806
00:47:18.530 --> 00:47:20.329
in my password. What the fuck is my password?
807
00:47:21.989 --> 00:47:22.769
No, I cannot move.
808
00:47:24.510 --> 00:47:26.630
We can turn it into like a shopping– we put
809
00:47:26.670 --> 00:47:28.349
our stuff in the shopping cart. We can turn it
810
00:47:28.389 --> 00:47:33.309
into some kind of like raise money, like shopping carts
811
00:47:33.369 --> 00:47:37.050
to Uruguay kind of thing. Excuse me? Get there somehow.
812
00:47:37.070 --> 00:47:38.329
What the fuck are you talking about?
813
00:47:38.409 --> 00:47:38.889
I mean, if we really.
814
00:47:38.909 --> 00:47:41.670
What's shopping carts to Uruguay? You've not given enough information.
815
00:47:41.690 --> 00:47:47.199
That's a cold-brewed outline. I didn't hear any details. Shopping
816
00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:50.780
carts to Uruguay? All right, I'm in, I guess. What happens?
817
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:52.219
Well, it's kind of like.
818
00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:53.199
We're going to ride in them?
819
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:55.800
A wagon train of shopping carts. Oh, okay.
820
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We're going to ride in shopping carts to Uruguay. All right,
821
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:02.409
so you're not moving either. I'm just saying.
822
00:48:02.909 --> 00:48:05.469
you know, there's a time, there's a point where it
823
00:48:05.510 --> 00:48:09.550
gets so bad. Rosie O'Donnell left, right? She had the resources,
824
00:48:09.650 --> 00:48:12.710
but there is a sales pitch that we're accepting.
825
00:48:13.130 --> 00:48:15.260
I would imagine, I think for my, my line should
826
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.599
have been when I, when I gave my info to
827
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.539
a planet fitness for auto pay, that's when I should
828
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.420
have left the country. They should have like, you want
829
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:24.840
to put it on auto pay? I should have been like,
830
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:26.960
actually come to think of it. I'm moving. I'm leaving
831
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the country.
832
00:48:29.789 --> 00:48:33.210
And Ezra Klein is one of those things. One of those, um,
833
00:48:33.369 --> 00:48:37.090
lighthouses that keeps us sitting here thinking like, Oh, maybe.
834
00:48:36.909 --> 00:48:39.469
There's a, right. Exactly. And that's why I don't want
835
00:48:39.489 --> 00:48:41.110
to shit on them all day long, even though I
836
00:48:41.190 --> 00:48:43.929
want to shit on them all day long. And I don't,
837
00:48:44.210 --> 00:48:49.090
I mean, but I couldn't believe that story that, that,
838
00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:53.110
that went by because there was like, whoever busted him.
839
00:48:53.130 --> 00:48:57.460
I mean, it beards heels, like the arch villain of
840
00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:59.820
our time. I mean, he's like the guy who runs Palantir.
841
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:01.829
I mean, it's not, it's not like, You can hang
842
00:49:01.889 --> 00:49:10.199
out with Peter Thiel as some– that's not– we as
843
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.320
a society should be against Peter Thiel. That is not
844
00:49:13.420 --> 00:49:16.170
up for debate in my opinion. I think it's up
845
00:49:16.210 --> 00:49:18.909
for debate among the money classes and among journalists Cause
846
00:49:18.929 --> 00:49:20.090
they're like, well, we should hang out with them as
847
00:49:20.130 --> 00:49:25.349
we can get access to them. No, um, you should not.
848
00:49:25.730 --> 00:49:28.550
Peter Thiel is a very bad person and a very
849
00:49:29.050 --> 00:49:32.449
crazy person and a dangerous person. And that should be,
850
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:38.309
that is self evident. Um, And, you know, so if
851
00:49:38.349 --> 00:49:41.389
you can hang out with him under any circumstance, like,
852
00:49:41.590 --> 00:49:44.489
you're validating him by doing it. You shouldn't go. You
853
00:49:44.510 --> 00:49:46.789
should stay away from people like that. You should spend
854
00:49:46.809 --> 00:49:48.929
your time trying to take them down. He is a
855
00:49:49.030 --> 00:49:53.460
bad guy. There's no two ways about it. I don't
856
00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:56.360
need to, and I know enough about him just because he's,
857
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:58.360
I mean, I've certainly read enough about him to know
858
00:49:58.420 --> 00:50:00.739
he's a bad guy. But also, if you can't pick
859
00:50:00.860 --> 00:50:06.429
up on that, you know, Speaking back to being a
860
00:50:06.449 --> 00:50:08.750
billionaire being a moral failure. I mean, Peter Thiel has
861
00:50:08.789 --> 00:50:10.630
failed every test he could possibly fail.
862
00:50:10.650 --> 00:50:14.389
Are you being accurate, though, in what you're saying? Because
863
00:50:15.190 --> 00:50:17.929
it's saying, Ezra Klein is saying on X, it says
864
00:50:17.989 --> 00:50:21.869
that it's called dialogue. Yeah, dialogue. He says, I went
865
00:50:22.030 --> 00:50:25.880
once in 2008 and once in 2022. Yeah. No one
866
00:50:25.900 --> 00:50:28.260
ever asked me to keep it a secret or my
867
00:50:28.300 --> 00:50:31.360
presence a secret. My understanding was Thiel was one of
868
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.429
the founders but no longer involved. I never saw or
869
00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:36.019
talked to him in connection with dialogue.
870
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:37.820
I don't believe him.
871
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:40.139
Okay.
872
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.920
And look at it deeper because it's a really weird
873
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:47.530
organization that you would never go to their conference based
874
00:50:47.610 --> 00:50:51.329
on what I read. They found an event description for
875
00:50:51.349 --> 00:50:54.750
their conference as well. This is not a conference. This
876
00:50:54.789 --> 00:50:58.329
is not just some fun... This is a very explicit...
877
00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:06.250
very explicitly dark and dangerous conference that is not something
878
00:51:06.289 --> 00:51:10.050
you would attend and then go like, do-do-do, I think
879
00:51:10.110 --> 00:51:12.670
everything's going to work out. Like, I live in Brooklyn. Like,
880
00:51:12.710 --> 00:51:16.750
this is something much more serious. And of course he
881
00:51:16.769 --> 00:51:20.909
would characterize, I only went twice. Oh, okay, great. Well,
882
00:51:20.929 --> 00:51:24.099
that's two times too many. I mean, like, it's... Just
883
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:25.920
look deeper into it. Of course he had to brush
884
00:51:25.940 --> 00:51:28.199
it off. And that's what his fucking, he's a professional
885
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.789
brush it off-er. He reminds me of Sam Altman. The
886
00:51:30.829 --> 00:51:32.989
same look on his face all the time. This blank
887
00:51:33.570 --> 00:51:35.690
sort of, you know, his thing would be, of course
888
00:51:35.730 --> 00:51:42.570
that was nothing. You know, that's his vibe. Let's talk
889
00:51:42.610 --> 00:51:45.010
about Israel. Are they right or wrong? You know, I mean,
890
00:51:45.030 --> 00:51:51.579
it's just all this crap. So here's the story. and
891
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.239
we can go deeper into this and also anyone who,
892
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.639
who has, has more information on that, uh, go ahead
893
00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:00.679
and throw it on the subreddit or I'll send it
894
00:52:00.699 --> 00:52:03.670
to me directly. Uh, best of bread at Gmail. I'm
895
00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:05.849
open to anybody who knows more about that. And I'm
896
00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:09.230
also open to people defending Ezra Klein, but I have,
897
00:52:09.449 --> 00:52:14.429
have looked into him enough to believe that he's sort
898
00:52:14.449 --> 00:52:17.199
of a psyop to keep everybody, to keep everybody from
899
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:19.099
supporting democratic socialists.
900
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:20.500
Okay.
901
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:26.480
Um, Or certainly for people to be like, somehow this
902
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:28.639
is going to work out. That's Ezra Klein's thing. You
903
00:52:28.659 --> 00:52:31.320
know what I mean? It's like somehow, even though ICE
904
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:36.300
is literally keeping people in prison for longer periods before
905
00:52:36.340 --> 00:52:38.699
they deport them because that way their friends at GeoGroup
906
00:52:38.739 --> 00:52:42.260
can make more money because they get paid by the
907
00:52:42.300 --> 00:52:44.559
day for how long they have people in these camps.
908
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:47.719
You know, if you think that's going to work out.
909
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:49.679
Well, he's an optimist.
910
00:52:49.739 --> 00:52:50.530
Yeah, I mean.
911
00:52:50.610 --> 00:52:51.610
And he's, you know, if you.
912
00:52:52.369 --> 00:52:56.809
I would say he's more of a false flag, but yeah, optimist.
913
00:52:58.510 --> 00:53:01.570
I mean, if you're an optimist right now, you're a fuckhead. Right.
914
00:53:02.219 --> 00:53:05.469
So I watched Two Prosecutors, a movie that came out recently,
915
00:53:06.420 --> 00:53:10.400
and it was interesting. It shows you how the thought
916
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.000
I had was that it's not that the system becomes
917
00:53:13.139 --> 00:53:18.179
fascist or fascistic. It's just that the system gradually does
918
00:53:18.619 --> 00:53:21.429
something else. So it's not– it's never going to announce
919
00:53:21.510 --> 00:53:26.309
that it's– or fascists. It's just a slow dive into–
920
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:29.219
slow degradation grinding away of all the things.
921
00:53:29.300 --> 00:53:29.559
Right.
922
00:53:29.619 --> 00:53:32.599
And that's what's happening now where people justify this and
923
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.300
justify that to earn their paychecks. And then the next
924
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.679
thing you know, oh, it's not fascism but it is fascism. Right.
925
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.820
It's like Ezra Klein is going to be like, we
926
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.059
need to build more houses, which I mean is true.
927
00:53:43.699 --> 00:53:47.050
But that's not– you know, his abundance thing, which I
928
00:53:47.329 --> 00:53:49.329
get mad about. And then I have friends like, who
929
00:53:49.349 --> 00:53:50.909
are like, that's a good thing. Why are you talking
930
00:53:50.969 --> 00:53:54.050
shit about more housing? And, and my argument is always like,
931
00:53:54.110 --> 00:53:59.429
it's not that that's more housing is not a bad idea,
932
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:04.079
but you have, that's not gonna fix shit compared to
933
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.320
what's going on. People can't afford to go to the doctor.
934
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:08.699
I mean, I'm just saying like, you know what I mean?
935
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:09.400
Like it's that sort of thing.
936
00:54:09.420 --> 00:54:12.570
People that pretend the government is non, that has a,
937
00:54:13.130 --> 00:54:15.130
Pretending the government has a future.
938
00:54:14.869 --> 00:54:17.369
Is– Or that we have a future in this situation
939
00:54:17.389 --> 00:54:20.130
and then they're still being like, should we– do we
940
00:54:20.210 --> 00:54:23.769
really need radicals to be elected like Bernie Sanders? I
941
00:54:23.769 --> 00:54:26.070
mean they're doing the same thing to– Right.
942
00:54:28.630 --> 00:54:31.860
To– Mondami?
943
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.219
Well, they were after Mondami but he's too popular. So
944
00:54:35.260 --> 00:54:39.639
now they're on to Al-Sayed and this streamer named Hassan Piker.
945
00:54:39.659 --> 00:54:40.480
Have you heard about that?
946
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:41.639
Yeah.
947
00:54:41.659 --> 00:54:41.739
Yeah.
948
00:54:41.860 --> 00:54:44.889
Yeah, so they're on to Hasan Piker. And the Democrats,
949
00:54:44.929 --> 00:54:48.030
rather than focus on ICE raids, which are just like
950
00:54:49.469 --> 00:54:55.150
Nazi 101, they're just talking shit about Hasan Piker. And
951
00:54:55.570 --> 00:55:02.010
are these radical leftists going to disavow Hasan Piker? I mean,
952
00:55:02.030 --> 00:55:04.550
that's what the entire Democratic Party is now focused on,
953
00:55:04.590 --> 00:55:06.289
just so they can keep things the exact same way
954
00:55:06.329 --> 00:55:12.280
they are. And That is a model that's going to
955
00:55:12.340 --> 00:55:15.400
end up with Ezra Klein saying, do we really need
956
00:55:15.460 --> 00:55:21.960
radical solutions? And then there's going to be a moment
957
00:55:21.980 --> 00:55:24.139
where they just run away from the microphone because there's
958
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.230
water up to their neck because of global warming. There's
959
00:55:29.269 --> 00:55:31.050
always going to be a space you can make look
960
00:55:31.110 --> 00:55:33.730
nice with a plant. You can put a plant and
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an expensive-looking recliner and have some people who are very,
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very well scrubbed talk about, you know, we just need
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to build more housing. And I'm not saying we don't
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need to build more housing. And that's the thing. It's
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like there's just– that is an insane– it's like sitting
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in a burning building and saying we need to build
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more housing.
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Right.
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Yeah, that's one thing. But we need to get a
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hose first. Right.
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And I think that how people act within this current
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society– Is the question or is the most important thing
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because that's what fascism is. It's not something. It's how
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people behave and what they react to.
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And what we accept.
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Yeah, and what we accept. For example, Mark Wayne Mullen
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00:56:17.590 --> 00:56:18.260
taking over ICE.
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Holy fuck, that guy, man. He's not even worth talking about.
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00:56:21.349 --> 00:56:22.730
He's like a fucking five-year-old.
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So that becomes a– the new version of ICE becomes
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a reality because of his reality. Because of how he
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00:56:33.190 --> 00:56:36.530
operates and what he accepts and what he– the salary
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00:56:36.570 --> 00:56:40.119
he thinks is important and the promotion he thinks is real.
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00:56:40.900 --> 00:56:44.139
When in reality he's– he probably won't end up in
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prison but he could because of what he's doing.
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He's crazy.
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00:56:48.340 --> 00:56:51.090
And so what– Did you see him with the squeeze ball?
988
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Oh, no.
989
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Keep going.
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Sorry. Says and projects is important because the– like– what
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00:56:59.409 --> 00:57:03.670
Mark Wayne Mullen's doing is, is just as important. And that,
992
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and how you make a difference is how you react.
993
00:57:06.090 --> 00:57:09.800
Right. Yes. If Mark Wayne Mullen is doing what he's doing.
994
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And then Ezra Klein is like taking his really, really
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fortunate self and just like sitting in a well-appointed podcast studio.
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And sort of making sure his diet is right.
997
00:57:23.219 --> 00:57:25.929
Doing like, yeah. Doing like easy listening type stuff. And that,
998
00:57:25.949 --> 00:57:28.610
I mean, you could say that about all of NPR, unfortunately.
999
00:57:30.619 --> 00:57:32.639
you know, it just rings hollow at a certain point.
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00:57:32.739 --> 00:57:35.449
And I, and I understand that I don't know what
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00:57:35.469 --> 00:57:37.369
the opposite, I don't know what the middle ground is
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00:57:37.389 --> 00:57:39.269
where you're not miserable all the time, but you're not
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00:57:39.309 --> 00:57:40.690
just saying like, as long as we, if we build
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00:57:40.730 --> 00:57:43.510
more housing, everything will be okay. Like, like, you know,
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00:57:43.550 --> 00:57:45.329
I just want the middle of that. That's all. I
1006
00:57:45.369 --> 00:57:49.349
don't want somebody doing a, because there will be people
1007
00:57:49.389 --> 00:57:51.789
with money will always be okay. That's the thing. People
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00:57:51.809 --> 00:57:54.110
like Ezra Klein will be okay. You know, but that
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00:57:54.150 --> 00:57:57.820
doesn't mean you can transfer that to, that's an empathy problem. Like,
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00:57:59.230 --> 00:58:01.329
I don't want to see the most fortunate people in
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society saying that we don't need to do much to
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00:58:03.369 --> 00:58:06.809
fix stuff. That doesn't mean anything. And that's what the
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00:58:06.869 --> 00:58:10.230
Democrats are at this point. They're a, they're a failed
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00:58:10.289 --> 00:58:13.690
organization that's lost every election and still keeps acting pompous.
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00:58:14.389 --> 00:58:17.170
It's like they've, you know, we've, we're in the worst
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00:58:17.269 --> 00:58:20.260
situation politically we've ever been in, in this country. And
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00:58:20.300 --> 00:58:25.260
it's directly because of these guys refusing to tax the wealthy.
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00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.480
And the Democrats still are just saying there must be
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00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.340
some way forward where we can just not tax the wealthy.
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I don't, we don't want to do it. All our
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00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.360
donors are wealthy. We don't want to do it. Nobody
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00:58:34.409 --> 00:58:36.750
wants to do it. No one wants to criticize Israel.
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00:58:36.789 --> 00:58:39.070
Cause everybody, all our donors like Israel. Like that's not
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00:58:39.110 --> 00:58:43.809
a model for a future. That's a snowball down a Hill. So,
1025
00:58:44.090 --> 00:58:47.130
you know, anyway, this article made me think of that
1026
00:58:47.190 --> 00:58:50.670
sort of stuff. Okay. Just, just, um, I love our
1027
00:58:50.710 --> 00:58:52.070
cold brew introductions to things.
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00:58:52.090 --> 00:58:53.030
That was a long, yeah.
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Like everybody just fell. They're like, they're like already asleep. Um,
1030
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They drove their car off the road. They actually turned
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00:59:01.099 --> 00:59:03.179
off the car. They started walking to work just so
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they wouldn't have access to the podcast anymore. They're like,
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I just need to get out of this car. No,
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you can just turn off the podcast. Why did you
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00:59:12.369 --> 00:59:14.190
walk to work? I don't know. They said they were
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going to read some article and they just never did.
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So I just started walking to work. I couldn't. They
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said Ezra Klein one more time. So here's the article.
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It's from today. For fired. Here's the headline. for fired
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00:59:30.409 --> 00:59:35.519
DeSantis campaign staff member a second chance at State Department.
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00:59:38.099 --> 00:59:41.639
The hiring of Nate Hotchman, who lost his job amid
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00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:45.989
an uproar over a video containing a Nazi symbol, underscores
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00:59:46.030 --> 00:59:50.250
the administration's willingness to overlook past transgressions.
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00:59:52.110 --> 00:59:53.369
Mm-hmm.
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00:59:55.179 --> 00:59:59.719
I would say that hiring a Nazi is more– there's
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00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:03.219
another way you can describe it besides an administration's willingness
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01:00:03.260 --> 01:00:08.690
to overlook past transgressions. And that's where it's just already–
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I just don't even want to read this article because
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01:00:10.730 --> 01:00:13.789
it makes me so mad. But it's by three people,
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01:00:15.030 --> 01:00:19.389
Andrea Fuller, Ken Bensinger, and Edward Wong, who I can
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01:00:19.429 --> 01:00:22.369
guarantee all their parents are rich and they all went
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01:00:22.409 --> 01:00:25.849
to fucking Yale– Not that there's anything wrong with that
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01:00:25.989 --> 01:00:28.309
if you come out of there with some guns blazing,
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01:00:28.369 --> 01:00:33.670
but not to take three people to come up with, like,
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01:00:33.730 --> 01:00:34.809
words like uproar.
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01:00:34.829 --> 01:00:36.750
Yeah.
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01:00:36.809 --> 01:00:41.360
Like, stop saying uproar and upend. Also, so here's the article.
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01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.159
In 2023, a young speechwriter for the presidential campaign of
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01:00:45.219 --> 01:00:51.719
Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida suffered a seemingly devastating career setback.
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01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:57.760
Within days of Nate Hotchman's promotion of a pro-DeSantis video
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01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:03.539
that flashed an image embraced by white supremacists. So weird,
1062
01:01:03.579 --> 01:01:08.340
because the image is a swastika. I don't know why
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01:01:08.380 --> 01:01:12.840
they won't say it. Public outcry grew, and he was
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01:01:12.889 --> 01:01:15.610
among a group of staff members fired by the campaign.
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01:01:18.170 --> 01:01:20.769
But Mr. Hotchman's career was not over. Within a year,
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he was making videos with America 2100, a right-wing advocacy
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01:01:25.110 --> 01:01:28.920
group with ties to Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Then
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01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:32.119
came a stint working for a Republican senator on Capitol Hill.
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01:01:33.019 --> 01:01:35.639
This year, Mr. Hotchman took a position as a senior
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01:01:35.820 --> 01:01:38.039
aide to one of the most powerful figures in the
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01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.360
federal government. He joined the State Department under Mr. Rubio
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01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.989
and now works as deputy director of the agency's policy
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01:01:45.050 --> 01:01:49.090
planning office. According to Mr. Hotchman's email signature, he is
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01:01:49.150 --> 01:01:51.429
also Mr. Rubio's chief speechwriter.
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01:01:51.449 --> 01:01:53.630
Oh my God. Mr.
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01:01:53.670 --> 01:01:56.690
Hotchman did not respond to a request for comment. Of
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01:01:56.769 --> 01:01:57.730
course he fucking didn't.
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01:01:59.510 --> 01:02:00.059
And then.
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A State Department spokesman said in a statement, Nate Hotchman
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is a trusted and key member of the department who
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01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.340
has worked tirelessly to advance the president's foreign policy agenda.
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01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:12.380
Mr.
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01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.909
Hotchman's trajectory is far from unique in today's Washington. He
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has joined the growing ranks of those who have found
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01:02:19.590 --> 01:02:24.829
that a public controversy, even one associated with a high-profile dismissal,
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01:02:24.929 --> 01:02:28.139
is not disqualifying for entry into the top ranks of
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01:02:28.179 --> 01:02:32.920
the Trump administration. His appointment follows the hiring or attempted
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01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:36.239
hiring of multiple State Department officials during Mr. Trump's second
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01:02:36.260 --> 01:02:40.340
term who have espoused inflammatory opinions about or been entangled
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01:02:40.380 --> 01:02:44.380
in controversies involving race and ethnicity. See, now, why do
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01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.579
they have to say that? I'm just stopping reading for
1092
01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:48.980
a second. Greg, a journalist, why do they have to
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01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:55.159
say inflammatory opinions and entangled in controversies? Why can't they
1094
01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:09.400
say racism and formerly disqualifying Nazi imagery instead of inflammatory opinions? Like,
1095
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:12.239
what are they trying to protect? They're trying to protect
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01:03:12.260 --> 01:03:15.199
their asses from lawsuits? Is that what it is?
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01:03:16.070 --> 01:03:19.010
Yeah, mainly. And they don't want to be accused of
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01:03:19.070 --> 01:03:21.849
being on one side or the other. But then they
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01:03:21.889 --> 01:03:23.289
miss the story completely.
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01:03:23.389 --> 01:03:23.610
Right.
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01:03:23.670 --> 01:03:26.869
So one of them is Darren Beattie, a senior advisor
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01:03:27.150 --> 01:03:29.980
in the Department on Brazil Policy. Mr. Beattie was fired
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01:03:30.019 --> 01:03:32.519
as a speechwriter for the first Trump White House after
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01:03:32.579 --> 01:03:34.920
giving a talk at a conference attended by white nationalists.
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01:03:35.780 --> 01:03:40.079
Jeremy Carle... A political commentator and Claremont Institute fellow named
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01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.989
by President Trump to a top State Department post withdrew
1107
01:03:43.210 --> 01:03:45.469
his nomination in March after senators questioned him at a
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01:03:45.489 --> 01:03:47.730
hearing about his views on white erasure.
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01:03:48.190 --> 01:03:48.429
Mr.
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01:03:48.469 --> 01:03:51.349
Carl has also been accused of making anti-Semitic comments. He
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01:03:51.389 --> 01:03:54.150
has said he is not a white nationalist. When making
1112
01:03:54.210 --> 01:03:58.570
personnel decisions, the current administration's tolerance for individuals who have
1113
01:03:58.610 --> 01:04:02.679
made controversial comments on race and identity has not been
1114
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.639
limited to the State Department. Now, that's exactly how you
1115
01:04:06.659 --> 01:04:09.559
could describe Hitler's cabinet.
1116
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:10.860
Right.
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01:04:11.099 --> 01:04:13.059
That's the problem. It's like, at what point do you
1118
01:04:13.139 --> 01:04:18.719
shift to hiring a bunch of Nazis means you're fucked? Like,
1119
01:04:18.940 --> 01:04:22.389
when do they switch to... I mean... Anyway, this article
1120
01:04:22.409 --> 01:04:25.030
is about Nazis. These are not their opinions are all
1121
01:04:25.070 --> 01:04:30.369
the same. They're all white nationalist opinions. So this article
1122
01:04:30.409 --> 01:04:34.280
could be white nationalists are making huge inroads in the
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01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:38.340
Trump administration. But instead, it's this weird language where it
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01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.480
takes three people. I'm sure these three people, it takes
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01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.199
three to write an article like this because they have
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01:04:43.219 --> 01:04:46.599
to be like, I don't know, inflammatory opinions. And they're like, oh,
1127
01:04:46.610 --> 01:04:46.949
that's good.
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01:04:46.969 --> 01:04:47.260
That's good.
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01:04:48.070 --> 01:04:48.309
Right.
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01:04:48.389 --> 01:04:49.889
OK, so a little more. So I might as well
1131
01:04:49.929 --> 01:04:52.300
read the rest of it. After chat logs leaked last
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01:04:52.380 --> 01:04:56.239
year showing that Paul Ingrassia had made racist comments and
1133
01:04:56.300 --> 01:04:59.219
admitting to having it and admitted to having a Nazi
1134
01:04:59.260 --> 01:05:02.170
streak in me, quote, he withdrew his nomination to lead
1135
01:05:02.190 --> 01:05:05.650
the Office of Special Counsel. But soon afterward, President Trump
1136
01:05:05.710 --> 01:05:09.670
named him deputy general counsel at the General Services Administration,
1137
01:05:09.869 --> 01:05:11.900
where he now serves as acting general counsel.
1138
01:05:13.309 --> 01:05:13.570
Mr.
1139
01:05:13.630 --> 01:05:17.750
Hotchman's arc started after he graduated from Colorado College in 2021.
1140
01:05:17.750 --> 01:05:21.219
He quickly became a rising star in the conservative movement.
1141
01:05:21.739 --> 01:05:24.800
I wish they'd stop saying that, too. Rising star. Landing
1142
01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:28.699
a writing position at National Review. Wait, National Review, is
1143
01:05:28.739 --> 01:05:29.679
that Buckley?
1144
01:05:30.900 --> 01:05:31.079
Yep.
1145
01:05:31.619 --> 01:05:34.900
Working as a fellow at the conservative Claremont Institute and
1146
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.380
contributing to the opinion pages of the New York Times.
1147
01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:43.909
There you go. And that ties to my comment last week,
1148
01:05:43.929 --> 01:05:45.989
that why do they have opinion pages? It's just a
1149
01:05:46.030 --> 01:05:51.380
way to insert fucking horrific racists into the conversation. Why
1150
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:55.059
do they have to do that? You don't have to
1151
01:05:55.099 --> 01:05:57.670
do both sides if one side is saying they have
1152
01:05:57.690 --> 01:06:01.780
a Nazi streak in them. But Mr. Hotchman soon came
1153
01:06:01.820 --> 01:06:05.449
under fire after offering measured praise of white nationalist Nick
1154
01:06:05.469 --> 01:06:09.030
Fuentes' influence on young men in an online discussion.
1155
01:06:09.389 --> 01:06:09.650
Mr.
1156
01:06:09.690 --> 01:06:13.710
Hotchman lost a journalism fellowship after the exchange was reported
1157
01:06:13.730 --> 01:06:17.789
in the dispatch. Quote, Which doesn't even make any sense.
1158
01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:28.880
Mr.
1159
01:06:28.900 --> 01:06:31.139
Hotchman told Mr. Fuentes, according to the publication.
1160
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:31.380
Mr.
1161
01:06:31.420 --> 01:06:34.519
Hotchman told the dispatch he disagreed with Mr. Fuentes' worldview
1162
01:06:34.900 --> 01:06:37.739
and that he had said some really stupid things, which
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01:06:37.780 --> 01:06:41.619
I actually don't believe. He joined the communication team for Mr.
1164
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:46.349
DeSantis' campaign in 2023. That July, Hotchman shared on X
1165
01:06:46.409 --> 01:06:53.789
a video containing a sonnenrad, a circular symbol popularized in
1166
01:06:53.869 --> 01:06:57.469
Nazi Germany and more recently associated with white supremacy movements.
1167
01:06:57.900 --> 01:07:01.849
The video includes images of a popular meme character reading
1168
01:07:01.889 --> 01:07:05.829
headlines critical of Mr. Trump, juxtaposed with a character reading
1169
01:07:05.909 --> 01:07:09.789
contesting views about Mr. DeSantis. The clip ends with an
1170
01:07:09.869 --> 01:07:13.429
image of Mr. DeSantis' face superimposed on the Sonnenrad as
1171
01:07:13.530 --> 01:07:16.599
soldiers march across the screen. In an essay published the
1172
01:07:16.619 --> 01:07:19.360
following year, Mr. Hotchman said he did not create the video,
1173
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.400
pushing back on assertions that and, quote, ethnically Jewish kid
1174
01:07:23.420 --> 01:07:26.820
with no prior video editing experience was cranking out neo-Nazi
1175
01:07:26.860 --> 01:07:31.260
videos under the cover of night. Nonetheless, Mr. Hotchman was
1176
01:07:31.300 --> 01:07:33.659
among the first people to repost the video after it
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01:07:33.699 --> 01:07:38.449
went live on an anonymous account. In his essay, Mr.
1178
01:07:38.489 --> 01:07:42.030
Hotchman said he undid the repost and informed his supervisors
1179
01:07:42.150 --> 01:07:44.869
once he learned what the symbol meant. He refused to
1180
01:07:44.909 --> 01:07:47.250
discuss who had made and distributed the video, saying he
1181
01:07:47.269 --> 01:07:50.329
wished to avoid the risk of throwing friends under the bus.
1182
01:07:52.010 --> 01:07:54.559
After the DeSantis campaign, Mr. Hotchman worked for America 2100.
1183
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:58.860
The group was founded by Michael Needham, who had served
1184
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:01.179
as chief of staff to Mr. Rubio when he was
1185
01:08:01.219 --> 01:08:03.860
senator and later became a top aide at the State
1186
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:07.469
Department and the White House. While at America 2100, Mr.
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01:08:07.510 --> 01:08:12.349
Hotchman appeared in a series of videos interviewing residents of Charleroi, Pennsylvania,
1188
01:08:12.389 --> 01:08:15.190
about the influx of Haitian immigrants there. In one, a
1189
01:08:15.250 --> 01:08:18.229
local man claims the volume of Haitians coming to the
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01:08:18.270 --> 01:08:23.149
community had overwhelmed the sewage system. That's gnarly, Mr. Hotchman
1191
01:08:23.189 --> 01:08:27.069
said in the video. The whole strip now basically just
1192
01:08:27.229 --> 01:08:29.510
intermittently smells like human feces.
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01:08:29.829 --> 01:08:30.170
Awesome.
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01:08:31.470 --> 01:08:35.949
Mr. Hotchman subsequently served as policy advisor for Senator Eric Schmidt,
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a Republican from Missouri. He left that position earlier this year,
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according to Legistorm, a research group that tracks congressional employees.
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A spokesman for Mr. Schmidt did not return a request
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for comment, which is the most popular thing these people do.
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They just don't return anything. which I'm sure Nazis didn't
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give a lot of statements about their actions either.
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Mr.
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Hotchman then took a senior position in the State Department.
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Okay.
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As of June, Mr. Hotchman was listed in the federal
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database as a senior advisor in the Office of the Counselor.
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And in his current position as Deputy Director of Policy Planning,
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he works in an important office that advises the Secretary
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on broad policy directions.
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Mr.
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Hotchman has also served as the Secretary's speechwriter since at
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least July. It is not clear what speeches Mr. Hotchman
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has written for Mr. Rubio in that capacity.
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Mr.
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Hotchman has amplified multiple posts on X by Mr. Rubio
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in the State Department's official account to his roughly 75,000 followers,
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including those asserting that Cuba has ties to left-wing extremism.
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His profile on the social media site does not disclose
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his employment at the agency.
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That's the end. Well, it's similar to how The media
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is reporting about how Trump's trying to influence the voting system.
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You know, they just pretend like he's not gaming the
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system actively.
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I mean.
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Okay, so I had it wrong. It wasn't a swastika.
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And they did eventually talk about what the symbol was,
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a sonnenrad.
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Um.
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But the guy writing our Secretary of State's speeches....
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What section is that in?
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I think it seems to be in the... I think
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it's just in their Trump administration section. But the story
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there is Nazi writes... Nazi writes speeches for... But the
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headline should be white supremacist is writing– white supremacist is
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one of our secretary of state's top advisors, top– and
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a speechwriter. I mean the headline is– that's a miserable–
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that article is just so long for what– I mean–
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Why it takes three people to say something in that, like,
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it's just, you don't come away with that. You come
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away with these people being dignified. I don't need to
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know this guy's resume. I need to know he interviewed
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some guy and agreed with him that Haitians are overloading
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the sewage system. That's what I need to know. I
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need to know that a guy who said Haitians are
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overloading the sewage system, um, or responded to that by
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saying gnarly is, is running our country because that's what
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the secretary of state does. They run, he runs our
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fucking country. You know, it's just so much more dire
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than the way that article presents it. And that's what
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I just mean about like sort of the whole Ezra
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Klein thing is like running sort of comfort journalism is
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the same as running cover.
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Well, this headline, Trump administration again asks the Supreme Court
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to allow mail voting restrictions, mail voting restrictions like U.S.
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Mail.
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So, I mean, it's the same thing. The president's trying
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to restrict voting rights.
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Yeah, that's illegal.
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Again, asks Supreme Court to allow mail voting restrictions.
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Which is illegal. It's in the Constitution that the voting
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is done by states. So the whole thing is.
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I mean, I think people would be much more scared
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if his term wasn't four years. Um, that's the only
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explanation I can think of.
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I can't even imagine what they're going to do in
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the next two years.
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Anyway.
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Ezra Klein better put extra fucking, better get that goatee
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extra waxed for maximum. Listen, if things were bad, would
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I look this good? Would I be able to afford
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this many ferns? Although Ezra Klein's podcast studio looks like
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an urgent care, which feeds into my current favorite stand-up
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joke that everybody, everywhere anyone goes, it looks like an
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urgent care. Their own apartment, where they work, the dance club,
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fucking podcast studio, it all looks the same. And it
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all includes a couch that looks like it's going to
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be comfortable and you sit on it as hard as
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a rock.
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Okay.
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You want to take a break?
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Yeah.
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Take a little break. We'll be back with the end
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of Cold Brew Got Me Like.
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We're back! Just wanted to thank our new Patreon member, Andrew.
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Thank you so much. Another one?
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Yes.
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Unbelievable. Thank you so much.
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We're going to be rolling in dough pretty soon. I
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hope so.
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But we're not yet, so... please support the Patreon. If
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you can, patreon.com slash Chris Crofton. I really appreciate it.
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It really helps me. It helps me. Um, the, uh,
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I mean, the job that I have is, uh, I love,
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I kind of love it. Uh, but it's, uh, part-time. So, um,
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every little bit helps. Let's just put it that way. Um,
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So last, speaking of people who are supporting the show,
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a lot of people have been nice enough to reach
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out and try to fulfill my request for low-view coffee
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reviews on YouTube. But I think their experiences have been
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frustrating as well, like trying to find... It's not easy
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to find a low-view... intentionally searching for low-view things is hard. Also,
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it's just hard because there's just so much junk on YouTube.
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Since they've introduced these YouTube Reels, it's just they're pushing them.
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So even when you have the specific title of the video,
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it will come up like sixth. First you'll get just
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these huge conglomerations of, things that they've pulled keywords out
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of your search and just thrown a million of these
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stupid things that people falling down the stairs and their
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pants falling off things. Anyway, it's just the whole, the
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whole thing. This AI search stuff is just taken. The
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only good thing about the internet and trashed it. But, uh, last,
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last show. That's a big deal. That sucks.
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Yeah.
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The most recent show, uh, during the break I played, um,
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this guy did find the other video by the man,
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this guy named MP Dave's on blue sky found the,
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cause I, I played the, the one with the acoustic
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guitar where the guy was going to review a Keurig
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cup every day for 200 days. But I can relate to,
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he only made two days, which I understand completely because
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coffee also makes you think you can do something for
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200 days. Um, so the ultimate cold brew got me
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like actually is saying you're going to review a Keurig
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cup every day for 200 days. And then you only
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do two days. That is the definition of cold brew
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got me like, um, but let's, I put it in
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this show last time, but let's listen to it again.
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Just cause it's pretty funny. It's so short. I wish
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he'd done more. Cause I just love the whole like NPR. Like,
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I mean, this is, this was done years and years ago.
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So this is when the world was still, Less hyper-normal.
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So I understand why he's in a better mood, you know,
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and it's nice to see somebody who's like... I mean,
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I'm not sure if this is Ezra Klein's theme song
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as well, but it should be, that acoustic guitar. This
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is number two review by this guy, his second and last.
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Hello, I'm Jonathan, and today I'm going to review the
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Keurig Single Cup Green Mountain Coffee Breakfast Blend.
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Has a nice aroma. Nice rich taste with medium acidity.
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The blend is very balanced, very smooth. Great coffee for
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a morning wake up.
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And if you normally don't drink your coffee black, this
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would be a good one to try.
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That's it.
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That was his last one. That one was better than
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the first one. The first one he He talked too
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much before the review, so then it made the review
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seem too short. This time he balanced the intro with
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the review, and the review seemed less.
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Maybe he got hired by Green Mountain after that.
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The review was anticlimactic after his intro on the first one.
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So he was improving. I would have loved to have
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seen the next 198. But yeah, he probably got hired
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by Green Mountain Coffee. They were like, where'd you get
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that fucking acoustic guitar thing? He's like, I did that.
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Excuse me? Can we meet with you immediately? I guess so.
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I was about to review the third, I was about
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to do the third day of my Keurig Cup reviews. Well,
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you're not going to need to worry about that anymore.
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Get over to Green Mountain and bring your acoustic guitar.
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And whatever that water thing is, I don't know what
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you're running in the background, but it's great.
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Because there's water running behind that acoustic guitar. Which is
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so great! Because it's like gives you the idea that
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this guy's playing the acoustic guitar by a mill wheel.
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Which is the total fantasy of this kind of guy.
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Back in 2007, he's living in Massachusetts and he's got
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a beard and he's like a old time liberal, you know,
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voting for Hillary Clinton and reviewing Keurig cups. And then,
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and then 10 years of Trump. And now he's probably
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reviewing like fortifications for your compound. Uh, but let's try,
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I want to see what else he's up to on
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YouTube because he also did do a bunch of videos.
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He stopped, he stopped, um, He stopped doing that project,
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but he did do some other ones. Oh, wait a minute.
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Hold on.
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What?
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He did do one other one, it looks like.
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Well, let's hear it.
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He did a couple, but then he did a lot
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of other things. But it does look like he has
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a third review. He does. Okay, one more from 16
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years ago.
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My name is Jonathan, and tonight I'm going to sample...
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and review Newman's own.
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Oh shit, this must have been his first one. He
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doesn't even have the song. Someone told him, listen, you're
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going to frighten people if you just start talking. You've
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got to have some music.
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Hello, my name is Jonathan, and tonight I'm going to
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sample and review Newman's own Extra Bold Special Blend Fairtrade
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Certified and Organic.
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Oh, he makes the mistake of this one also. Holy shit.
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gross he's had a real this one's definitely got some
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problems the idea of talking over the curry bad idea
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oh and he also had a slogan it's coffee time
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or like what a catchphrase he said cheers but you
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can't hear him over the curry.
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That's delicious that's really good coffee.
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It's an extra gold but it doesn't have the high
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acid required by some coffees to call themselves extra gold
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it's very smoky it's got a smooth texture to it
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which is very nice i would drink this morning noon
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or night it's very good coffee and um really enjoyed.
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It jesus that's a nightmare he had a terrible idea
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that okay let's see what the comments on that someone
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must have been like don't don't run the machine while
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you're talking here are the comments Someone wrote 12 years ago,
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Newman's Special Blend, 12 years ago too, so it's like
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four years after this was up. Newman's Special Blend is
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like a little bit of coffee heaven. I love this one!
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So that person's insane, because that review is crazy. The
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next one is a little bit better. 16 years ago, wow,
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you heater is really loud. I don't think it's a
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heater either. Anyway, that's it. No, so he definitely, somebody
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in his family said, Dad, you know, like, first of all,
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what you're doing is so lame. Second of all, like,
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my friends at school can see these things. Like, just
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for God's sake. You look like you've got something fucking
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wrong with you. At least don't talk over the fucking machine.
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Stop.
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So he did. He fine-tuned it. So he fine-tuned it,
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01:23:31.170 --> 01:23:35.729
meaning he put the acoustic guitar in and didn't actually
1431
01:23:35.789 --> 01:23:38.390
do the brewing. There's nothing interesting about watching a Keurig
1432
01:23:38.710 --> 01:23:43.260
spit coffee out. He said he would drink this coffee morning, noon,
1433
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:43.859
or night.
1434
01:23:45.220 --> 01:23:45.680
Interesting.
1435
01:23:46.539 --> 01:23:49.100
Yeah, I don't think this guy's alive anymore. He's divorced,
1436
01:23:49.140 --> 01:23:53.960
I'll tell you that right now. That's probably what it is, actually,
1437
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.649
is he just moved out. And his kids are like,
1438
01:23:57.670 --> 01:24:02.520
what's dad doing? And his ex-wife's like, don't look at YouTube.
1439
01:24:06.130 --> 01:24:08.130
Why is he talking over the machine? You can barely
1440
01:24:08.170 --> 01:24:08.550
hear him.
1441
01:24:10.130 --> 01:24:12.350
The acoustics were so bad, it sounded like he was
1442
01:24:12.449 --> 01:24:16.399
on a spaceship. He had been abducted by aliens and
1443
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:18.979
he was coffee testing on the craft.
1444
01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.680
That reminds me of when Dad moved out. You know
1445
01:24:23.699 --> 01:24:28.229
what I mean? That's like when our dad left for
1446
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:32.399
a little while. that's kind of the shit dad was
1447
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:35.750
doing in his, in his new apartment. Like this guy
1448
01:24:35.770 --> 01:24:38.029
needs his family back. That's what I get from his reviews.
1449
01:24:42.869 --> 01:24:43.310
Oh man.
1450
01:24:43.350 --> 01:24:43.789
So, okay.
1451
01:24:43.810 --> 01:24:48.380
So he did three. It looks like he did one
1452
01:24:48.420 --> 01:24:50.340
dry run where he talked over the machine and then
1453
01:24:50.420 --> 01:24:53.760
two more dialed in with the acoustic guitar. And then
1454
01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:57.770
he reunited with his wife and the whole project was scrapped.
1455
01:24:59.489 --> 01:25:07.430
Um, So now a loading dock, right?
1456
01:25:08.510 --> 01:25:11.449
Oh, a loading dock. It's kind of miserable.
1457
01:25:11.630 --> 01:25:12.310
Maybe your column.
1458
01:25:12.329 --> 01:25:15.420
I'll read the column instead of... Let's do one more
1459
01:25:15.460 --> 01:25:17.779
just for the heck of it. 15 years ago, coffee
1460
01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:18.500
reviewer guy.
1461
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:23.460
Hey, Jay, how about one more.
1462
01:25:25.189 --> 01:25:33.449
Hey, Jay, how about one more time? Happy birthday to you.
1463
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:40.939
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Jay. Happy birthday
1464
01:25:40.979 --> 01:25:45.520
to you. Not bad, eh?
1465
01:25:48.899 --> 01:25:51.399
Okay, so he doesn't know how YouTube works. He thinks
1466
01:25:51.420 --> 01:25:56.289
that's like a messaging service or something. He just said
1467
01:25:56.329 --> 01:25:58.810
happy birthday to his friend Jay on YouTube.
1468
01:26:02.899 --> 01:26:05.420
Hey, Jay, how about one more time?
1469
01:26:05.500 --> 01:26:09.970
Zero comments, no likes, 33 views from 15 years ago
1470
01:26:10.029 --> 01:26:12.430
for his happy birthday to a person no one knows.
1471
01:26:13.050 --> 01:26:18.479
So he definitely needs, he's working it out. Maybe he
1472
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:20.140
does work for Green Mountain Coffee now.
1473
01:26:23.380 --> 01:26:23.760
Probably.
1474
01:26:23.939 --> 01:26:26.840
They probably just hired him so he'd stop doing those. Like, listen,
1475
01:26:26.859 --> 01:26:31.609
you're destroying our brand. We can get you a job.
1476
01:26:31.649 --> 01:26:33.130
We'll give you a job here just so you won't
1477
01:26:33.170 --> 01:26:33.970
make those anymore.
1478
01:26:35.369 --> 01:26:35.569
What?
1479
01:26:35.689 --> 01:26:38.329
I just said... No, don't even.
1480
01:26:40.489 --> 01:26:43.039
This is not the kind of publicity we want. This
1481
01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:44.939
is not supposed... We don't want to be like coffee
1482
01:26:44.979 --> 01:26:45.619
for shut-ins.
1483
01:26:47.380 --> 01:26:50.300
It says so much about society, too, where people are
1484
01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:54.159
taste-testing coffee as it's brewed in a plastic cup.
1485
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:56.460
Yeah, you can really taste the plastic.
1486
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.180
I mean, it's just the worst way possible to brew coffee.
1487
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:03.739
And he's sitting there acting like he can taste the
1488
01:27:03.779 --> 01:27:07.659
flavors of this coffee. Oh my goodness. It's almost.
1489
01:27:09.590 --> 01:27:13.550
Like he's insane. There's nothing I like better than just
1490
01:27:13.590 --> 01:27:18.609
my acoustic guitar, some running water, a machine, and a
1491
01:27:18.649 --> 01:27:24.800
plastic tube. Or a plastic pod. Just the way God intended.
1492
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:30.359
It's like trying to give a... A review to a
1493
01:27:30.420 --> 01:27:32.729
cup of coffee that came out of the hospital in
1494
01:27:32.739 --> 01:27:35.210
the 60s. The cup dropped down.
1495
01:27:35.470 --> 01:27:36.390
Oh, my God.
1496
01:27:36.409 --> 01:27:37.829
That's so fucking funny.
1497
01:27:37.850 --> 01:27:40.829
Except that coffee was better.
1498
01:27:41.369 --> 01:27:47.189
Oh, my God. I don't know where this coffee comes from.
1499
01:27:47.229 --> 01:27:49.720
It just comes out of this spout here. No telling
1500
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:53.319
where the beans are from. I don't know if there's
1501
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:55.189
beans in this machine. You can't really see in it.
1502
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:57.420
Just the paper cup drops down and then it just
1503
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.979
sort of comes out. No idea, but it's good. I'd say,
1504
01:28:01.260 --> 01:28:04.220
you know, light acidity. I would drink this anytime I'm
1505
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:14.010
in the hospital. That's funny. It's true. He's reviewing something
1506
01:28:14.029 --> 01:28:15.029
that should not be reviewed.
1507
01:28:17.649 --> 01:28:20.850
But at the same time, it's come to dominate coffee brewing.
1508
01:28:21.270 --> 01:28:23.380
You know, it probably is the biggest segment of the market.
1509
01:28:24.899 --> 01:28:33.520
So the irony is thick. Yeah. as is it in
1510
01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:34.960
many places in American life.
1511
01:28:36.729 --> 01:28:44.949
Yep. So, uh, was I going to do? Your column. Oh, column.
1512
01:28:44.970 --> 01:28:46.720
But then I thought maybe I should do a quick
1513
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:51.000
loading doc report. Hold on. I'll do a short... The
1514
01:28:51.060 --> 01:28:53.979
message of the loading doc report this week is just
1515
01:28:54.079 --> 01:29:01.489
more dystopia stuff. But it was kind of funny. Because
1516
01:29:02.029 --> 01:29:19.619
we went... Hold on. Loading dock report. We went to
1517
01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:22.359
our new warehouse, me and my boss. And we went
1518
01:29:22.380 --> 01:29:24.680
to the new warehouse where we're storing stuff, which is
1519
01:29:24.739 --> 01:29:29.000
off Dickerson Pike in Nashville. It's a new... It's a
1520
01:29:29.060 --> 01:29:33.899
warehouse that was bought by... a bunch of bros. It
1521
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.060
was like a vacant kind of beat up warehouse. And
1522
01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:39.689
now they have like sort of a perky, um, hip
1523
01:29:39.729 --> 01:29:43.050
looking staff that when you go to talk to them
1524
01:29:43.090 --> 01:29:45.750
about warehouse space, you get met by these sort of
1525
01:29:45.810 --> 01:29:50.270
perky modern young people. And then they sell you the
1526
01:29:50.310 --> 01:29:52.270
space and they say, make it sound like it's going
1527
01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:54.800
to be really good. And, and then the reality of
1528
01:29:54.840 --> 01:30:01.640
it is one dude sweating his ass off, vaping, Running
1529
01:30:01.659 --> 01:30:07.079
the whole warehouse with one forklift. So the welcome wagon,
1530
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:12.750
like when you go in, it's the venture capitalists hire
1531
01:30:12.770 --> 01:30:16.890
some like people that look like, you know, people who
1532
01:30:17.189 --> 01:30:20.390
look like they're living their best life, quote unquote. They say, yeah,
1533
01:30:20.409 --> 01:30:22.909
we're running this warehouse. It's great. It's so cool. You
1534
01:30:22.930 --> 01:30:25.130
want some coffee? You want some Keurig coffee actually? You
1535
01:30:25.649 --> 01:30:28.279
want some Green Mountain Blend? I can make you one.
1536
01:30:28.300 --> 01:30:30.180
And then you're like, oh, this is cool. And then
1537
01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:33.659
you get in the reality of the business is the
1538
01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:37.560
people at the top taking big salaries. They hire three
1539
01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:40.710
dudes to do the job of 40 and that's it.
1540
01:30:41.369 --> 01:30:43.930
And it's not unusual and I'm not putting this business down.
1541
01:30:43.989 --> 01:30:48.260
I'm really not. It's just the– It's the model. It's
1542
01:30:48.300 --> 01:30:50.199
the way things are done now. It's not even worth
1543
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:57.100
really commenting on. The model is reward the executives and
1544
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:04.140
staff as lightly as possible and pay the lowest wage
1545
01:31:04.180 --> 01:31:06.920
as possible and pay no benefits. And that's just the
1546
01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:11.060
way it is. I'm sure this is not a publicly
1547
01:31:11.100 --> 01:31:13.399
held company, but in this case, if they're not delivering
1548
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:17.310
value to the shareholders, they're delivering value to the executive
1549
01:31:17.829 --> 01:31:21.859
group that runs this warehouse. So, but the thing is
1550
01:31:21.899 --> 01:31:23.960
a warehouse still does need to have the work done.
1551
01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:29.800
So I just, we interacted with the guy. There's the guy,
1552
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:31.880
you know, and he said some stuff he wasn't supposed
1553
01:31:31.899 --> 01:31:35.649
to say because we got there and he was by himself.
1554
01:31:36.189 --> 01:31:38.770
His supervisor had gone home for the day. So he
1555
01:31:38.789 --> 01:31:43.210
was just like, he's very nice. Obviously has a work ethic.
1556
01:31:43.949 --> 01:31:47.010
that is insane. You know, he was sweating his ass
1557
01:31:47.149 --> 01:31:49.829
off covered in sweat. I mean, there's no, no air conditioning.
1558
01:31:50.090 --> 01:31:53.489
I guess that's true of most warehouses. Um, but air
1559
01:31:53.510 --> 01:31:55.689
conditioning would be nice. If you're going to skimp on
1560
01:31:55.710 --> 01:31:57.729
the employees, you could give them some air conditioning with
1561
01:31:57.750 --> 01:31:59.489
the savings, but no way. It's like, we're gonna have
1562
01:31:59.510 --> 01:32:01.100
low employees or no, you know, I mean, it's just
1563
01:32:01.140 --> 01:32:06.659
like strip everything bare, take, take as much strip, every
1564
01:32:06.779 --> 01:32:12.859
single bit of investment out of the actual product and
1565
01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:17.600
give it to the, to the executives. So he just said, man,
1566
01:32:17.619 --> 01:32:19.420
he's like, I've been working in warehouses all my life.
1567
01:32:19.460 --> 01:32:23.279
He said, um, I just never seen anybody charged this
1568
01:32:23.340 --> 01:32:29.109
much for warehouse space. So he wasn't supposed to say that. Um,
1569
01:32:29.770 --> 01:32:35.710
and also that this was the cheapest place we could find. So.
1570
01:32:36.550 --> 01:32:38.029
Cause you work for a nonprofit.
1571
01:32:38.069 --> 01:32:41.710
Work for a nonprofit. It's small. Apparently most of these
1572
01:32:41.750 --> 01:32:44.869
warehouses are, operating on the same model wouldn't take our
1573
01:32:44.909 --> 01:32:49.090
business because we weren't big enough, which is another telling thing.
1574
01:32:49.350 --> 01:32:52.770
It's like, it's the bro class. Like I'm going to
1575
01:32:52.789 --> 01:32:55.310
be a billionaire and be a baller. They're trying to
1576
01:32:55.350 --> 01:32:57.960
turn every business into something that can deliver profits that
1577
01:32:57.979 --> 01:33:01.500
are completely insane. Like, how can I be a baller?
1578
01:33:03.300 --> 01:33:05.460
You know, how can I be like white Lotus style
1579
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:11.020
lifestyle off of a warehouse? I mean, that's what it is. Um,
1580
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:14.510
And it's taking us all down. But in the meantime,
1581
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:17.550
it's just interesting to see it played out. Like, one guy.
1582
01:33:17.659 --> 01:33:19.510
And a good guy. They got a good guy for this.
1583
01:33:19.569 --> 01:33:23.569
This guy obviously is... You know, I don't want to
1584
01:33:23.609 --> 01:33:25.890
get too much into the demographics of the warehouse. But
1585
01:33:25.930 --> 01:33:28.350
let's just say the executive class is one color and
1586
01:33:28.369 --> 01:33:31.850
the people running the machinery are another color. That's all
1587
01:33:31.869 --> 01:33:33.189
I'm going to say. And I'm not going to tell
1588
01:33:33.210 --> 01:33:34.829
you the name of it or anything. And it's really
1589
01:33:34.890 --> 01:33:38.050
not unusual. It's just telling. That's all. You know, it's like.
1590
01:33:40.670 --> 01:33:41.090
Well, I have.
1591
01:33:41.050 --> 01:33:44.250
Experience on Dickerson Pike with warehouses because that's where the
1592
01:33:44.289 --> 01:33:48.250
coffee company moved for three years. And it was a
1593
01:33:48.329 --> 01:33:50.489
similar thing. It was a white guy who had moved
1594
01:33:50.529 --> 01:33:54.989
here from Los Angeles who bought the building because he
1595
01:33:55.029 --> 01:33:57.380
knew it was going to be worth double what he
1596
01:33:57.399 --> 01:34:00.079
paid for it in 10 years. And he wasn't really
1597
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.300
concerned about the business inside the building. It was more
1598
01:34:03.340 --> 01:34:06.140
about the real estate and holding it long enough and
1599
01:34:06.180 --> 01:34:08.430
finding a way to hold it. And the thing about
1600
01:34:08.449 --> 01:34:11.590
Dickerson Pike, and you've written a classic song about Dickerson Pike,
1601
01:34:13.100 --> 01:34:15.960
so you know it, it's been the slowest place to
1602
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:17.220
gentrify in Nashville.
1603
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:20.640
Oh, we'll make Song of the Week Dickerson Pike. And
1604
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:22.579
so it's been a little tricky for these.
1605
01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:26.000
White guys, these rich people that try to flip these
1606
01:34:26.300 --> 01:34:29.930
properties on Dickerson Pike because it's going to take twice
1607
01:34:29.989 --> 01:34:32.710
or three times as long as most of Nashville because
1608
01:34:32.789 --> 01:34:36.630
so many people have made their lives there and they're
1609
01:34:36.649 --> 01:34:38.010
harder to get and get.
1610
01:34:37.909 --> 01:34:38.510
Them out of there.
1611
01:34:39.770 --> 01:34:41.750
And it's a long road, but it has a great
1612
01:34:41.810 --> 01:34:44.289
view of downtown Nashville, and so people think it's going
1613
01:34:44.310 --> 01:34:45.569
to flip faster than it does.
1614
01:34:46.729 --> 01:34:49.520
Yeah, and I took a picture of, on the way
1615
01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:53.640
out of there, I was parked at a light, and
1616
01:34:53.659 --> 01:34:56.840
there was a Tesla in front of me. I mean,
1617
01:34:56.859 --> 01:35:00.420
not a Tesla, yeah, a Tesla, a Cybertruck. A Cybertruck
1618
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:03.359
that said, we buy real estate on it. It was
1619
01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:05.890
like a company that is out on Dickerson Pike trying
1620
01:35:05.909 --> 01:35:09.470
to buy trying to lowball elderly black people out of
1621
01:35:09.510 --> 01:35:10.369
their fucking property.
1622
01:35:11.170 --> 01:35:11.729
Right.
1623
01:35:11.909 --> 01:35:15.590
And, you know, that's the sort of thing where it's like,
1624
01:35:19.350 --> 01:35:21.520
you just see, like, you don't want that in your town.
1625
01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:23.760
You know, go to a town where that's not happening.
1626
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.300
Go to a town where there's not some fucking white
1627
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:29.939
guy in a Cybertruck driving around with, like, a slush
1628
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:33.689
fund in his Venmo car. to just buy black people's
1629
01:35:33.710 --> 01:35:36.329
houses at lower than market rate by tricking them into
1630
01:35:36.350 --> 01:35:39.369
being like, I'll give you cash right now. But that's
1631
01:35:39.390 --> 01:35:41.890
what's happening in Nashville. And I don't know how we
1632
01:35:41.949 --> 01:35:44.430
end up with that. And we don't somehow have any
1633
01:35:44.729 --> 01:35:47.789
mechanism to stop it. But that's why everybody's mad at
1634
01:35:47.810 --> 01:35:51.180
Freddie O'Connell. Cause it's like, how can we have that
1635
01:35:51.229 --> 01:35:54.979
going on? Like, how can that be legal? And he'll say, well,
1636
01:35:55.020 --> 01:35:57.020
the state made it legal. I mean, he'll say it's not,
1637
01:35:57.260 --> 01:35:59.819
you know, this, I understand he's under, this is Tennessee,
1638
01:35:59.859 --> 01:36:02.670
you know, it's Tennessee. So Tennessee would say, if he
1639
01:36:02.710 --> 01:36:04.189
tried to make a law, I mean, I guess from
1640
01:36:04.229 --> 01:36:06.710
his standpoint, we could make a law where that's illegal,
1641
01:36:06.770 --> 01:36:10.340
but then the state would make that law illegal. Which
1642
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:13.119
is probably true. So all we can do is just
1643
01:36:13.199 --> 01:36:16.579
try desperately to get a working bus service in place.
1644
01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:19.699
But yeah, go somewhere else if that's what your town's
1645
01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:22.680
stuck with. Like, we could just barely get a working
1646
01:36:22.720 --> 01:36:27.159
bus service, maybe. Like, go somewhere else. And people are
1647
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:31.699
going somewhere else. Oh yeah, 100%. And I, you know, I... Yeah,
1648
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.680
I'm trying to love Nashville. I do love Nashville. I
1649
01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:38.460
love what it gave me. I love a lot of
1650
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:40.819
the people here. There was a great spirit here, but
1651
01:36:40.859 --> 01:36:43.420
that spirit is exiting. I just talked to someone the
1652
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:46.890
other day. I was at Trader Joe's getting food, and
1653
01:36:47.829 --> 01:36:50.130
one of the people that works there is a friend
1654
01:36:50.170 --> 01:36:53.989
of mine, and her and her husband are leaving for Portland.
1655
01:36:55.289 --> 01:36:58.489
And they loved Nashville as well. So they were like,
1656
01:37:00.909 --> 01:37:02.390
Not embarrassed, but she was just like, yeah. And I
1657
01:37:02.390 --> 01:37:04.090
was like, yeah, it sucks. I don't want to be
1658
01:37:06.449 --> 01:37:09.739
down on Nashville. I don't want to be, but I am.
1659
01:37:10.220 --> 01:37:11.579
And I do want to get out of here. It's
1660
01:37:11.619 --> 01:37:13.060
not a good place to be. It's sort of the
1661
01:37:13.100 --> 01:37:14.640
same as how long you want to stay in the
1662
01:37:14.659 --> 01:37:17.279
United States when you've got Nazis writing the Secretary of
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01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:22.649
State's fucking speeches. It's like people who can get out.
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01:37:23.829 --> 01:37:26.310
It's your business. You can get out. You don't have
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01:37:26.329 --> 01:37:28.470
to stay and fucking try and fix Nashville. And that's
1666
01:37:29.069 --> 01:37:32.779
sort of people... I understand that. Like I have that
1667
01:37:32.939 --> 01:37:35.689
same conflict, but she said, well, we're moving to Portland
1668
01:37:35.729 --> 01:37:38.329
and people have been like, our realtor said, why don't
1669
01:37:38.350 --> 01:37:39.350
you want to stay and fight?
1670
01:37:40.869 --> 01:37:41.189
You know?
1671
01:37:41.210 --> 01:37:45.510
And it's like, you know, it's like, cause you got
1672
01:37:45.529 --> 01:37:49.109
to pick your battles. Uh, this is not a winning
1673
01:37:49.210 --> 01:37:52.770
one trying to reverse Tennessee, uh, you know, to try
1674
01:37:52.789 --> 01:37:56.729
and change Tennessee into somewhere that's humane is, uh, is
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01:37:56.770 --> 01:38:01.649
a lost cause. Um, And even our mayor says it
1676
01:38:02.470 --> 01:38:09.390
pretty much. You know, there's always the sort of caveat
1677
01:38:09.409 --> 01:38:11.789
that the state, you know, I would, but the state,
1678
01:38:11.810 --> 01:38:20.109
you know, I just, you know. So, anyway, this is
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01:38:20.149 --> 01:38:23.449
the new advice king. That's a loading dock report, sort
1680
01:38:23.470 --> 01:38:30.899
of a hard hitting hard hitting no punches pulled loading
1681
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:37.760
dock report and uh anyway shout out to uh Brandon
1682
01:38:37.899 --> 01:38:40.220
who was running the forklift who was fucking cool and
1683
01:38:40.300 --> 01:38:41.939
he was like don't worry I got you you know
1684
01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:46.439
he's just buzzing around in that warehouse and he definitely
1685
01:38:46.479 --> 01:38:51.340
seems like he's trying to do a fucking good job Um, and, uh, yeah, so,
1686
01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:54.539
you know, people still want to do the right thing.
1687
01:38:54.579 --> 01:38:56.600
You know, you can hire somebody and pay them nothing
1688
01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:59.060
and they'll still, if you hire the right person, they'll
1689
01:38:59.090 --> 01:39:04.069
still work their ass off for you. Um, so the
1690
01:39:04.109 --> 01:39:09.710
new advice came was, uh, what is it? Oh, retiring.
1691
01:39:09.750 --> 01:39:12.029
That's what it was. I thought it was global warming.
1692
01:39:12.050 --> 01:39:12.550
You're going to read.
1693
01:39:12.630 --> 01:39:14.529
Well, it's got something to do with that, but I, I,
1694
01:39:14.670 --> 01:39:18.750
it's the retirement one. I haven't read it, so I
1695
01:39:18.770 --> 01:39:25.720
won't hear it. It came out August 19th.
1696
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:29.899
And check out, anyone who's listening, check out Advice King
1697
01:39:30.579 --> 01:39:33.369
vignettes on YouTube. They're really great. There's like six or
1698
01:39:33.409 --> 01:39:37.069
seven of them, and they were put to video. He's
1699
01:39:37.090 --> 01:39:40.810
been doing this column for so long, but there's like
1700
01:39:41.069 --> 01:39:43.689
seven or eight that are just put to video that
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01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:44.260
are awesome.
1702
01:39:44.739 --> 01:39:52.939
Thanks. Yeah, Advice King, it's on YouTube. Advice King, how
1703
01:39:53.020 --> 01:39:56.970
am I supposed to retire? Dear Advice King, I'm 50
1704
01:39:56.970 --> 01:39:59.930
and I want to retire at 65. I have $ 1, 800
1705
01:39:59.649 --> 01:40:01.029
in the bank.
1706
01:40:01.470 --> 01:40:02.130
How do I do it?
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01:40:03.189 --> 01:40:07.270
Ron and Boise. And I said, well, the first thing
1708
01:40:07.310 --> 01:40:08.989
you should do is come see me and Josh Fadum
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01:40:09.010 --> 01:40:13.449
perform stand-up comedy this Thursday, August 20th at the OG Basement.
1710
01:40:13.939 --> 01:40:21.670
Doors at 8.30, show at 9. It's only $ 20. After that,
1711
01:40:21.710 --> 01:40:24.949
you will have $ 1, 780. But you will be so happy.
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01:40:25.630 --> 01:40:29.909
Bring your mom, then you'll have $ 1, 760. Buy your mom
1713
01:40:30.510 --> 01:40:36.340
a Long Island iced tea, and then you'll have $ 1, 740, etc. Now,
1714
01:40:36.380 --> 01:40:38.359
just an interruption here for the Cold Brew Got Me
1715
01:40:38.399 --> 01:40:41.359
Like audience. Obviously, that show's over. We had a lot
1716
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:44.800
of fun. And I just use the column to promote
1717
01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:47.140
a show, which I don't always do. But I talked
1718
01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:48.680
to the editor and he was like, oh, I would
1719
01:40:48.699 --> 01:40:50.840
have written a blurb about that show, but you didn't
1720
01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:53.659
tell me in time. So I was like, hmm, how
1721
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:56.659
can I promote the show in the Nashville scene? And
1722
01:40:56.680 --> 01:41:01.170
so that's what I did. So anyway, I opened the
1723
01:41:01.189 --> 01:41:04.250
column saying you have eighteen hundred dollars. You want to retire.
1724
01:41:05.649 --> 01:41:09.649
Come to my show. You may say, oh, back to
1725
01:41:09.670 --> 01:41:11.390
the column, you may say, but I need to be
1726
01:41:11.430 --> 01:41:14.550
careful with my money. To that I say, no you don't.
1727
01:41:15.130 --> 01:41:17.810
In fact, you should spend all of your remaining money
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01:41:17.930 --> 01:41:22.189
on tickets to my live shows. Oh my gosh! I
1729
01:41:22.210 --> 01:41:24.289
just woke up with my head on the keyboard. I
1730
01:41:24.329 --> 01:41:26.680
must have written that beginning part in my sleep. That's
1731
01:41:26.729 --> 01:41:29.479
bad advice. You shouldn't spend all your money on tickets
1732
01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:32.439
to my shows. Just a big chunk of it. Sorry
1733
01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:35.520
about that. I don't know how to erase it, unfortunately.
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01:41:37.020 --> 01:41:40.350
You are not retiring, buddy. I hate to burst your bubble.
1735
01:41:40.930 --> 01:41:43.310
None of us are. We're all going to be oiling
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01:41:43.350 --> 01:41:46.369
the joints of sex robots in return for tokens that
1737
01:41:46.409 --> 01:41:49.189
can purchase gruel. And we're not going to get to
1738
01:41:49.270 --> 01:41:52.819
use the sex robots. No way. We're oiling them for
1739
01:41:52.859 --> 01:41:57.979
Jeff Bezos' annual robot sex party on Mars. Just kidding.
1740
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.760
We're not going to Mars. Jeff Bezos isn't going to Mars.
1741
01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:03.060
No one is going to Mars. No one is even
1742
01:42:03.180 --> 01:42:06.569
on the way to Mars. We couldn't survive on Mars
1743
01:42:06.649 --> 01:42:10.699
even if we managed to get there, etc., Jeff Bezos
1744
01:42:10.739 --> 01:42:13.949
hasn't even been to the moon, even with his illegal
1745
01:42:14.010 --> 01:42:17.029
monopoly and poverty wages and everything. These guys are inept.
1746
01:42:18.390 --> 01:42:20.750
There's more bad news, Ron. Even if you have the
1747
01:42:20.829 --> 01:42:24.840
money to retire, you're not going to have a very
1748
01:42:24.899 --> 01:42:28.060
fun retirement. It's going to be 150 degrees and there
1749
01:42:28.100 --> 01:42:30.720
will be hurricanes three times a week. Golf will be
1750
01:42:30.779 --> 01:42:33.590
out of the question. That's the only thing I'm excited about.
1751
01:42:33.710 --> 01:42:37.770
No more golf. No golf, no diabolical plots hatched in
1752
01:42:37.789 --> 01:42:40.149
the golf cart on the way to the green. Fewer
1753
01:42:40.189 --> 01:42:44.800
diabolical plots, more chance of us saving our asses. We
1754
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:47.659
can turn the golf courses into farms. We can plant
1755
01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:52.260
heat resistant crops on the fairways. Do heat resistant crops exist?
1756
01:42:52.659 --> 01:42:55.869
Don't ask me. I went to Liberty University and majored
1757
01:42:55.909 --> 01:43:02.020
in Christopher Columbus. For the sake of argument, let's say
1758
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:06.260
you are able to retire, and they put refrigerated domes
1759
01:43:06.350 --> 01:43:08.850
over the golf courses. You're still not going to have
1760
01:43:08.869 --> 01:43:09.329
any fun.
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01:43:09.909 --> 01:43:10.210
Why?
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01:43:10.590 --> 01:43:13.550
Because you have a conscience, that's why. How can someone
1763
01:43:13.569 --> 01:43:15.930
with a conscience enjoy a round of golf when they
1764
01:43:15.970 --> 01:43:19.189
don't know that masked men are snatching people off the streets?
1765
01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:23.539
When those people, sometimes whole families, are being held indefinitely
1766
01:43:23.899 --> 01:43:27.390
in for-profit detention centers... And when it is quite possible
1767
01:43:27.409 --> 01:43:30.890
that your golf partners may be profiting from those detention centers.
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01:43:31.350 --> 01:43:33.649
What are you guys going to talk about? Our glorious
1769
01:43:33.710 --> 01:43:38.489
war with Iran? The weather? Don't retire. Stay vigilant.
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01:43:39.970 --> 01:43:40.630
That's great.
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01:43:40.890 --> 01:43:46.010
Thanks. So I'm going to write a new column this week.
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01:43:47.520 --> 01:43:53.100
My editor's father passed away. I went to his funeral yesterday.
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01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:54.560
How was it?
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01:43:55.130 --> 01:43:57.229
It was great. His dad was an elder at the
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01:43:57.289 --> 01:44:01.829
church of Christ in Hendersonville. Um, this person I'm talking
1776
01:44:01.850 --> 01:44:04.409
about is named Patrick Rogers. He's the editor of the
1777
01:44:04.479 --> 01:44:07.899
Nashville scene and, uh, has been editing my columns for
1778
01:44:07.939 --> 01:44:11.000
years and years and, uh, good friend of mine and
1779
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:14.659
a very good guy. And, um, you know, coming from
1780
01:44:14.680 --> 01:44:18.869
a church of Christ background, it's amazing. He's, um, you know,
1781
01:44:19.050 --> 01:44:23.010
a liberal. I mean, that must've been difficult. Uh, it
1782
01:44:23.029 --> 01:44:25.380
was a very nice, beautiful ceremony. I mean, just in
1783
01:44:25.409 --> 01:44:27.560
terms of how much his, his father was an elder
1784
01:44:27.579 --> 01:44:29.399
in the church, which is like a big, huge deal
1785
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:32.399
in the church of Christ. It's like being a, you know,
1786
01:44:32.439 --> 01:44:34.380
it's like being a bishop or something. So it's like they,
1787
01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:38.930
the tons of people were there. The line to see
1788
01:44:38.970 --> 01:44:42.909
his casket was huge. I guess they came all day. Um,
1789
01:44:43.689 --> 01:44:47.569
and I saw the whole ceremony and, um, it was
1790
01:44:47.609 --> 01:44:49.899
really touching and it was, you know, it was, um,
1791
01:44:50.060 --> 01:44:51.800
his dad was really important to a lot of people.
1792
01:44:51.819 --> 01:44:53.260
Apparently really funny guy.
1793
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:56.560
How old was he? 82.
1794
01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.920
And he passed his sleep. He had a heart issue
1795
01:44:59.960 --> 01:45:02.199
while he was asleep and, and they took him to
1796
01:45:02.220 --> 01:45:06.100
the hospital and they couldn't revive him. But, you know,
1797
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:09.010
they mentioned during the tribute that it was a very
1798
01:45:09.090 --> 01:45:17.300
nice way to go. Um, and it sure is, you know, um, Um,
1799
01:45:18.300 --> 01:45:25.560
so anyway, that was, uh, was, uh, nice to see, uh, community.
1800
01:45:25.619 --> 01:45:30.239
And I know Church of Christ is like a pretty, pretty, uh,
1801
01:45:30.859 --> 01:45:33.119
you know, not known for its fun, but, uh, they
1802
01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:35.979
were welcoming to, uh, strangers, you know, being in there. And,
1803
01:45:36.840 --> 01:45:38.180
you know, some guy came up to me and fist
1804
01:45:38.220 --> 01:45:42.600
bumped me this, uh, 90, he had to have been 90.
1805
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:43.930
Why'd he do that? He just came up to me.
1806
01:45:43.939 --> 01:45:47.289
He said, Hey, young man. which also made it worth
1807
01:45:47.350 --> 01:45:50.369
it to go. And he fist bumped me and he
1808
01:45:50.390 --> 01:45:52.479
just said, how do you know, what are you doing here?
1809
01:45:52.569 --> 01:45:56.859
And I said, I'm friends with Patrick. And anyway, he was,
1810
01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:59.100
he was nice. It was just funny to be called
1811
01:45:59.140 --> 01:46:04.319
a young man. But also like, I did notice that like,
1812
01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:05.770
I don't know that the church of Christ is going
1813
01:46:05.789 --> 01:46:08.590
to be doing much business going forward because everyone there
1814
01:46:08.649 --> 01:46:13.909
was in their eighties. There were very few young people there. And,
1815
01:46:15.090 --> 01:46:16.529
I understand it was a funeral, but it was a
1816
01:46:16.550 --> 01:46:18.170
funeral for one of the elders of the church. I
1817
01:46:18.210 --> 01:46:21.770
would imagine that that sort of message of kind of
1818
01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:27.100
like self-denial, you know, in order to get into heaven
1819
01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:29.640
is just a hard sell when you've got phones with
1820
01:46:31.140 --> 01:46:34.319
pornography on them in your pocket, in every kid's pocket.
1821
01:46:37.779 --> 01:46:40.189
You know, it's just going to be harder to, the
1822
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:44.489
world has encroached on, those bubbles are harder to maintain.
1823
01:46:44.850 --> 01:46:47.270
And that's why they're– not the Church of Christ, but
1824
01:46:47.350 --> 01:46:49.420
in general, that's why conservatives are like, we don't want
1825
01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:51.560
to send our kids to college anymore. Because it's just
1826
01:46:51.579 --> 01:46:56.920
getting harder and harder to keep them programmed in these
1827
01:46:58.460 --> 01:47:05.859
sort of patriarchal spaces. Oh, and Gloria Steinem died, and
1828
01:47:05.970 --> 01:47:15.909
I shared an Instagram post from that account SeasterJones. about
1829
01:47:15.949 --> 01:47:18.949
her being a CIA operative, which made me feel bad
1830
01:47:18.989 --> 01:47:20.930
because she meant a lot to a lot of women,
1831
01:47:20.989 --> 01:47:24.670
and I understand that she, whether or not she personally
1832
01:47:24.729 --> 01:47:29.720
was corrupt doesn't really matter. Her message was, and her
1833
01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:33.840
life was a force for good in the world of...
1834
01:47:37.699 --> 01:47:41.539
You know, gender politics. So anyway, RIP Gloria Steinem. I
1835
01:47:41.579 --> 01:47:43.479
don't know. That story is kind of weird, too. I
1836
01:47:43.659 --> 01:47:45.819
looked into it more and I undid my repost because
1837
01:47:45.850 --> 01:47:47.279
I felt bad. I don't want to like I didn't
1838
01:47:47.310 --> 01:47:49.649
realize she died either. I just thought someone had posted that.
1839
01:47:49.670 --> 01:47:51.149
And then I found out she died. And I was like,
1840
01:47:51.170 --> 01:47:52.770
I don't want to. You know, a lot of women
1841
01:47:52.810 --> 01:47:55.390
I respect were like, thank you, Gloria Steinem. And then
1842
01:47:55.409 --> 01:47:59.310
I felt like such a jerk. But she was involved
1843
01:47:59.329 --> 01:48:03.550
with the CIA and really went early on in her career. Well,
1844
01:48:04.329 --> 01:48:08.699
so was Buckley. The CIA funded her to go to–
1845
01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:12.180
when she was young, like I don't know how old,
1846
01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:14.699
maybe in college. She was funded by the CIA to
1847
01:48:14.739 --> 01:48:18.350
go to Russian youth festivals. Speaking of, that's where dad went.
1848
01:48:18.930 --> 01:48:21.689
Our dad went to a Russian youth festival. They were
1849
01:48:21.729 --> 01:48:26.229
like Russian youth festivals that were like, I don't know,
1850
01:48:26.310 --> 01:48:28.489
propaganda for Russians. Like they were trying to show that
1851
01:48:28.510 --> 01:48:30.890
their culture wasn't so bad. It was a Cold War.
1852
01:48:31.010 --> 01:48:33.300
Yeah, it was back when the CIA was just starting out.
1853
01:48:33.310 --> 01:48:35.479
They didn't really know how to do bad stuff yet.
1854
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.859
So the CIA was sending out pamphlets and stuff.
1855
01:48:37.899 --> 01:48:42.210
The CIA sent Gloria Steinem over there paid for her
1856
01:48:42.289 --> 01:48:46.409
trip over there to represent like Western values.
1857
01:48:47.050 --> 01:48:47.289
Yeah.
1858
01:48:47.350 --> 01:48:50.340
That's what Buckley went to Mexico to represent, uh, Western
1859
01:48:50.380 --> 01:48:54.859
values with, uh, workers in Mexico. And he was part
1860
01:48:54.880 --> 01:48:56.520
of their unit down there. It was like him and
1861
01:48:56.600 --> 01:48:57.000
one guy.
1862
01:48:57.779 --> 01:48:57.920
Right.
1863
01:48:57.939 --> 01:49:00.619
So Gloria Steinem was like, that was the extent of
1864
01:49:00.659 --> 01:49:03.100
my involvement. But then of course with the CIA, everyone's like,
1865
01:49:03.180 --> 01:49:05.300
sure it was, you know, like, you know, she's like,
1866
01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:06.739
and that was it. They just run to my trip.
1867
01:49:06.859 --> 01:49:10.460
And then the rest of my career, I was totally, But,
1868
01:49:10.539 --> 01:49:11.220
you know.
1869
01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:11.319
It.
1870
01:49:13.579 --> 01:49:16.539
Cast a little bit of doubt on, because, you know,
1871
01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:22.220
the thing about the argument people were making online that
1872
01:49:22.260 --> 01:49:24.600
was negative about Gloria Steinem is that they were saying
1873
01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:28.619
that the CIA's involvement in her life had made her
1874
01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:32.810
do a version of feminism that basically introduced women to
1875
01:49:32.819 --> 01:49:37.829
the workforce, which for capitalist purposes is unbelievable. They got
1876
01:49:37.850 --> 01:49:43.409
to double the GDP because women started to work, but, um,
1877
01:49:44.350 --> 01:49:46.960
not that there weren't women working, but this on mass,
1878
01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:50.840
they took, took the idea like women should be, but
1879
01:49:50.880 --> 01:49:53.020
that she didn't, they didn't, they didn't make it like,
1880
01:49:53.899 --> 01:49:55.539
it was just like, Oh, you should be just like
1881
01:49:55.579 --> 01:49:57.380
a man. You should be able to go like the
1882
01:49:57.399 --> 01:50:00.079
whole girl boss thing. Like almost like she introduced, like
1883
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.689
we want to be, have the same exact rights as men.
1884
01:50:03.770 --> 01:50:05.869
So we want to just be in the office with them.
1885
01:50:05.930 --> 01:50:08.569
Whereas like it could have been more of a, movement
1886
01:50:08.649 --> 01:50:11.590
against capitalism is what the complaint is that instead of
1887
01:50:11.689 --> 01:50:14.029
she just made it sort of like women need to
1888
01:50:14.069 --> 01:50:16.670
go to the office too kind of version of feminism
1889
01:50:17.789 --> 01:50:20.010
and it's deeper than that because she had ms magazine
1890
01:50:20.029 --> 01:50:21.390
which meant a lot to a lot of people and
1891
01:50:21.430 --> 01:50:23.409
so i i don't know that she was bad but
1892
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you could also argue that she was doing it in
1893
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good faith and just it didn't occur to her that
1894
01:50:28.930 --> 01:50:32.380
she should be anti-capitalism you know and that she thought
1895
01:50:32.449 --> 01:50:35.560
that in that framework when the, when society seemed to
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be functioning pretty well and everyone had what they needed,
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or at least it seemed that way, you know, post-war
1898
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America that going to the office was like a form
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01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:48.250
of liberation. Maybe, maybe that seemed sane and, you know,
1900
01:50:48.270 --> 01:50:50.090
maybe that was like the best, you know, that seemed
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01:50:50.109 --> 01:50:51.550
like the best idea at the time. Like we just
1902
01:50:51.569 --> 01:50:52.930
want to be in the office too. And we want
1903
01:50:52.970 --> 01:50:54.489
to be doing stuff that women liked. I mean, I
1904
01:50:54.489 --> 01:50:57.609
was like, it's complicated. So I felt dumb for putting
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01:50:57.649 --> 01:51:00.479
up that post just because it's much more nuanced than,
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01:51:00.699 --> 01:51:02.239
than just, Oh, she worked for the CIA.
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Yeah.
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So I looked into it and took it down. So
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RIP Gloria Steinem, definitely a person who gave a shit
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about something, which is very important, and we all should.
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Yeah, I liked her a lot.
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Follow that lead.
1913
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I read stuff about her whenever I could, whenever I can.
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And I respect her.
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Okay, well.
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Um.
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Oh, I have one thing from the documentary corner. And
1918
01:51:35.270 --> 01:51:37.550
by the way, at Vice King, one of my favorite
1919
01:51:37.569 --> 01:51:43.550
videos is How to Meet Women at the Gym. And
1920
01:51:43.609 --> 01:51:47.729
just look for that one if you can. But I
1921
01:51:47.770 --> 01:51:52.250
was looking up and reading about the new Musk documentary about.
1922
01:51:52.350 --> 01:51:54.649
Oh, yeah. Can't wait.
1923
01:51:54.729 --> 01:51:58.710
Elon Musk by Alex Gibney, who makes movies that are
1924
01:51:58.770 --> 01:52:01.449
way too long and they become boring. But.
1925
01:52:02.380 --> 01:52:03.739
This was six hours.
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He cut it to four. So maybe he got rid
1927
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of the boring stuff. And it looks great. It's going
1928
01:52:10.210 --> 01:52:13.210
to be in theaters. It's released by HBO after that.
1929
01:52:14.529 --> 01:52:17.109
But the odd thing was, I spent a good... The
1930
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article was long. It was in the Hollywood Reporter. And
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01:52:20.140 --> 01:52:21.680
I was reading it, and all of a sudden my
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phone says, wiretapping detected. On my iPhone.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I've never seen that before. Have you seen that?
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Yes.
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It's some kind of spam. It's not real. Oh, okay.
1937
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I was like, Elon Musk is after me already. Because
1938
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the article is about how much control he has and
1939
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power he has because of his internet satellites.
1940
01:52:43.560 --> 01:52:45.840
Yeah, I can't wait to... I was like, he's on
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to me. I'm reading his article.
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He doesn't want me to read it.
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Right.
1944
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I hope they're not getting that micromanaging of their... enemies,
1945
01:52:53.460 --> 01:52:57.020
because then we're in big trouble. I'm assuming that we're
1946
01:52:57.060 --> 01:52:59.390
low on the list of their targets, but I could
1947
01:52:59.430 --> 01:53:01.869
be wrong. But yeah, like.
1948
01:53:02.710 --> 01:53:04.529
It kind of discouraged me. I kind of shut down
1949
01:53:04.569 --> 01:53:08.350
my reading operation a little quickly. So, it had its effect.
1950
01:53:08.390 --> 01:53:12.430
Well, there comes a time when, yeah, when you run
1951
01:53:12.449 --> 01:53:16.710
for the hills. That might be your breaking point. Alright,
1952
01:53:16.869 --> 01:53:19.449
fuck it. I'm doing this shopping cart thing to Uruguay.
1953
01:53:20.829 --> 01:53:24.119
Where's my shovel and my nap set yeah where my
1954
01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:32.520
god where my goggles i'm headed for the sewers um
1955
01:53:33.260 --> 01:53:36.399
okay i've got four pounds of dried fruit i think
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i think i think that's the breaking point um okay
1957
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so uh Thanks for listening. Support the Patreon if you can. Patreon.com
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slash Chris Crofton. I'm going to put up, I'm going
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to make the song of the week Dickerson Pike, which
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is my own song, which I think I've probably made
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song of the week before.
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That's okay.
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And I think it's up on the Patreon already, but
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if it's not, I will make it so you can
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download it on the Patreon. So it's either on the
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01:54:09.850 --> 01:54:12.890
Patreon already or I will add it. So Dickerson Pike,
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01:54:15.670 --> 01:54:20.609
a great heavy metal song about Gentrification. And I would
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argue ahead of its time.
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Yes.
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01:54:23.909 --> 01:54:29.699
So I was down on Nashville before. What is that song?
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I was country when country wasn't cool.
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You know what I mean.
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So thanks for listening. You made that song in 2009, 2008, 2009.
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So, yeah, you were.
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Way ahead of time. Yeah, I could. I mean. comes
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down to like your your town like your town's only
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01:54:47.670 --> 01:54:51.850
allowed to have one like ultra lounge if you have
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01:54:51.890 --> 01:54:54.689
two i mean back then you know what i mean
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01:54:54.720 --> 01:54:56.640
it was like nightclubs that were doing that sort of
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like uh just that sort of all of a sudden
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couches got hard to talk about couches you jump on
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and they're hard as a rock it was kind of
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01:55:09.920 --> 01:55:13.930
like that like it was like uh You just sort
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01:55:13.989 --> 01:55:18.529
of started seeing this boutique slash venture capital version of
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01:55:19.670 --> 01:55:23.609
like arty. You know, like they start marketing restaurants as arty,
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01:55:23.649 --> 01:55:27.680
but they're full of couches that aren't soft. And you
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01:55:27.689 --> 01:55:30.020
start to realize this new version of artiness. I miss
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the sort of musty easy chairs of the old alternative culture.
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01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:38.539
You know what I mean? Alternative culture was not supposed
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to be clean. Like underground art– is dirty and stinky.
1991
01:55:47.149 --> 01:55:50.239
No one talks about that, but if your art gallery
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is clean, really clean and looks like an urgent care,
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01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:58.420
there's probably nothing interesting going on in there. Right, you've
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01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:01.390
got to start over. And that's totally changed. Because I
1995
01:56:01.430 --> 01:56:03.390
remember there was a coffee shop in California that was
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01:56:03.409 --> 01:56:06.039
like an old time, obviously been there since the 90s,
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and it was gross. But it was like a real
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01:56:08.449 --> 01:56:13.069
community center. It had all these nasty couches everywhere and
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01:56:13.109 --> 01:56:15.470
everyone just sat on them like drawing pictures and stuff
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01:56:15.489 --> 01:56:19.770
like and drinking you know probably bad iced coffee but
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01:56:19.810 --> 01:56:22.300
it felt like oh this is a community center you
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01:56:22.310 --> 01:56:23.840
know what i mean this is a community center this
2003
01:56:23.899 --> 01:56:26.479
isn't a money extraction zone for people who are trying
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01:56:26.500 --> 01:56:28.300
to like drink the right right amount of caffeine so
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01:56:28.319 --> 01:56:30.479
they can do a real estate deal this is somewhere
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01:56:30.539 --> 01:56:33.500
you linger and you live your life and have fun
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01:56:33.539 --> 01:56:36.890
and it is stinky because people who like hang around
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01:56:36.930 --> 01:56:39.970
coffee shops all day or are not necessarily the most
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01:56:40.270 --> 01:56:43.119
hygienic people Um, I.
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Don't think that James Brown would record sex machine on
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a gentrified Dickerson Pike.
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Oh, that's right. Yeah. Dickerson Pike. That's right. Yes. Like, yeah,
2013
01:56:52.600 --> 01:56:54.300
there was like, there was like, yeah, there was like
2014
01:56:54.359 --> 01:56:59.159
cognac on the fucking, uh, on the recording console. You
2015
01:56:59.180 --> 01:57:00.779
know what I mean? Like who spilled the cognac? Get your,
2016
01:57:00.979 --> 01:57:05.180
what the hell? T-bone, get your fucking cognac off the
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01:57:05.279 --> 01:57:07.300
fucking mixing board. These things are expensive.
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01:57:08.899 --> 01:57:10.100
James Brown would be like, it's all right.
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01:57:10.119 --> 01:57:12.359
Yeah, it's all right. I'll buy you a new console.
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01:57:12.380 --> 01:57:14.319
Shut the fuck up. Let me give you some of
2021
01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:20.529
that cognac. So I just launched this whole new thing
2022
01:57:20.550 --> 01:57:22.970
where that's supposed to end the show. But it does–
2023
01:57:23.210 --> 01:57:26.029
it really is like– That's not T-Bone Burnett.
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01:57:26.069 --> 01:57:26.609
He wasn't there.
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01:57:26.689 --> 01:57:29.380
Oh, fuck no. T-Bone Burnett is the fucking whitest man
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01:57:29.399 --> 01:57:33.880
on the planet. He's nowhere near. James Brown would have
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01:57:33.899 --> 01:57:36.100
had his security team tased like the fucking Nation of
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01:57:36.159 --> 01:57:39.310
Islam would have tased– t-bone brunette and they would have
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01:57:39.630 --> 01:57:42.210
been on the right track god damn then there would
2030
01:57:42.229 --> 01:57:44.430
have been no oh brother where art thou then there
2031
01:57:44.449 --> 01:57:46.270
would have been no mumford and sons and we'd all
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01:57:46.310 --> 01:57:56.939
be fucking happy as birds um so um what made
2033
01:57:56.979 --> 01:58:04.520
me think of it was like sometimes i fantasize about
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01:58:04.560 --> 01:58:08.819
like oh man Like, oh, it would have been so
2035
01:58:08.899 --> 01:58:12.119
great to be in Plato. retreat. Like that swingers sex
2036
01:58:12.829 --> 01:58:19.010
club in New York where like Bette Midler sent like, uh,
2037
01:58:19.590 --> 01:58:22.539
Barry Manilow played the piano or whatever. But you know,
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01:58:23.529 --> 01:58:26.210
Then I read like some people talking about what Plato's
2039
01:58:26.250 --> 01:58:28.210
retreat was really like. And they were like, it was
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01:58:28.369 --> 01:58:36.140
fucking disgusting. It smelled horrible. There was pubic hair everywhere.
2041
01:58:36.159 --> 01:58:37.699
You know, it's like, you know what I mean? It's
2042
01:58:37.720 --> 01:58:39.880
just like a nightmare. You know, the pool is full
2043
01:58:39.920 --> 01:58:42.100
of cum, you know, like what?
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01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:42.579
Yeah.
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01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:44.659
I mean, well, that's what I'm saying. The downside to,
2046
01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:50.869
but those environments are more likely to turn out a
2047
01:58:50.930 --> 01:58:57.340
song like Mandy. By Barry Manilow than any of these
2048
01:58:57.399 --> 01:58:59.920
corporate coffee shops. So I'm just saying there's a little
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01:58:59.960 --> 01:59:06.619
pubic hair involved in the beaker where you make great art.
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01:59:07.460 --> 01:59:07.779
Thank you.
2051
01:59:07.800 --> 01:59:08.770
Are you still drinking cold brew?
2052
01:59:08.779 --> 01:59:09.279
Holy fuck.
2053
01:59:09.590 --> 01:59:14.489
Yeah, I can't believe that just happened. I said beaker. Okay,
2054
01:59:14.550 --> 01:59:16.329
I said beaker and pubic hair are the same sentence.
2055
01:59:16.729 --> 01:59:19.729
I would like to argue in defense of Plato's retreat.
2056
01:59:19.829 --> 01:59:21.739
I do not think it was that gross there. I
2057
01:59:21.779 --> 01:59:23.439
think it was in business for 20 years, and they
2058
01:59:23.460 --> 01:59:24.600
had a lot of happy customers.
2059
01:59:25.899 --> 01:59:34.350
Well, okay. Fair enough. Well, they vacuumed it and stuff.
2060
01:59:34.409 --> 01:59:37.350
I mean, the cleaning crew at Plato's Retreat must have
2061
01:59:37.369 --> 01:59:40.130
been traumatized. That's who we should be interviewing on this podcast.
2062
01:59:41.149 --> 01:59:44.010
I mean, the pool technicians and the spa technicians at
2063
01:59:44.050 --> 01:59:47.229
Plato's Retreat would beg to differ.
2064
01:59:48.550 --> 01:59:52.210
You think they're happy? No, they would beg to differ
2065
01:59:52.229 --> 01:59:54.170
with your version of events. Oh, they're going to say
2066
01:59:54.210 --> 01:59:55.069
it was clean in there?
2067
01:59:55.380 --> 01:59:55.840
Yeah.
2068
01:59:55.850 --> 01:59:57.680
Get out of here. You think group sex with a
2069
01:59:57.680 --> 02:00:01.500
bunch of restaurant owners? Like the kind of clientele they
2070
02:00:01.539 --> 02:00:05.579
had were all like restaurant owners and hotel, motel owners,
2071
02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:08.039
gas station owners, like coming in there to have sex
2072
02:00:08.060 --> 02:00:09.680
with whoever. God damn.
2073
02:00:09.699 --> 02:00:11.319
Yeah, but there were certain things you couldn't do in
2074
02:00:11.359 --> 02:00:11.739
the pool.
2075
02:00:11.770 --> 02:00:15.829
Cologne. Imagine how much cologne by itself would be like
2076
02:00:15.850 --> 02:00:20.279
an oil slick on that fucking pool. bob cuccioni that's
2077
02:00:20.310 --> 02:00:22.430
what i'm saying i mean these pubic hair was like
2078
02:00:22.470 --> 02:00:25.510
a sign of like opulence like it was a bit
2079
02:00:25.529 --> 02:00:27.369
like it was like a it was like a status
2080
02:00:27.409 --> 02:00:29.210
symbol i mean that's why there was a lot of
2081
02:00:29.289 --> 02:00:31.850
it is because back then it was like somehow it
2082
02:00:31.869 --> 02:00:33.569
was like if you had hair on your shoulders that
2083
02:00:33.590 --> 02:00:35.630
was like sexy like look how much hair that guy's
2084
02:00:35.670 --> 02:00:40.100
producing like he's so hot totally different that's coming back
2085
02:00:40.539 --> 02:00:42.399
it should i mean that's what i'm saying that's where
2086
02:00:42.439 --> 02:00:43.960
the art is okay.
2087
02:00:46.189 --> 02:00:46.390
All right.
2088
02:00:46.449 --> 02:00:49.069
Thanks, guys. Bob, you haven't been here in two months.
2089
02:00:49.250 --> 02:00:49.529
I know.
2090
02:00:49.550 --> 02:00:52.970
I've been remiss. I try to come by every two
2091
02:00:53.250 --> 02:00:53.949
to three months.
2092
02:00:54.010 --> 02:00:54.210
I know.
2093
02:00:54.829 --> 02:01:00.649
I was in Spain. We had an anniversary shoot. I
2094
02:01:00.689 --> 02:01:07.170
was in Spain just trying to think of what he
2095
02:01:07.189 --> 02:01:10.380
would say he was doing. I was just on the beach.
2096
02:01:10.399 --> 02:01:14.180
I was trying to unwind. Penthouse is a very hard job.
2097
02:01:16.609 --> 02:01:18.079
I'm trying to figure out what to do with my
2098
02:01:18.140 --> 02:01:20.859
cash right now. Yeah.
2099
02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:22.779
I was in Spain trying to buy a leopard.
2100
02:01:22.840 --> 02:01:25.720
I heard they had a... We want a leopard to
2101
02:01:25.819 --> 02:01:28.159
use for the shoots. They're illegal to buy, but in
2102
02:01:28.229 --> 02:01:30.210
Spain you can buy them. But then it turned into
2103
02:01:30.229 --> 02:01:34.090
a long trip. I hung out with Pavarotti.
2104
02:01:34.109 --> 02:01:37.609
Did blow with Pavarotti.
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02:01:37.630 --> 02:01:44.680
God, he was a busy man. He sure was. At
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02:01:44.699 --> 02:01:45.039
his peak.
2107
02:01:45.479 --> 02:01:48.890
Dropping pubic hair wherever he went i can't i can't
2108
02:01:48.930 --> 02:01:50.770
let it go i want this show to end about
2109
02:01:51.250 --> 02:01:52.890
you keep trying to like just fix it so i
2110
02:01:52.909 --> 02:01:55.489
don't that's not the last thing i say bob.
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02:01:55.329 --> 02:01:59.109
Guccioni went through a lot of film yeah because mostly
2112
02:01:59.189 --> 02:02:01.409
because the lens cap was on the whole time.
2113
02:02:04.470 --> 02:02:05.930
Bob i hate to break it to you but that
2114
02:02:05.970 --> 02:02:09.189
whole shoot you just did again he left the lens
2115
02:02:09.210 --> 02:02:17.909
cap on oh oh oh ah jesus You've got to
2116
02:02:17.970 --> 02:02:22.569
stop doing drugs, Bob. No, it helps me. Well, it
2117
02:02:22.609 --> 02:02:24.710
might help your... But I mean, if you're not taking
2118
02:02:24.729 --> 02:02:28.590
the lens cap off, no one's going to know. If
2119
02:02:28.630 --> 02:02:29.210
it does help.
2120
02:02:30.380 --> 02:02:31.449
These girls never notice.
2121
02:02:33.880 --> 02:02:36.640
Why isn't someone telling me this? Why is it down
2122
02:02:36.659 --> 02:02:41.659
to me? All right, ladies and gentlemen, the end of
2123
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:49.229
Cold Brew Got Me Like, episode 232. 233. Thanks for listening.
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02:02:49.520 --> 02:02:50.079
See you next week.
2125
02:03:21.010 --> 02:03:31.939
It's Laura Tabb and natural light on Dickerson Pike at night.
2126
02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:46.109
It's your money and your wife on Dickerson Pike at night.
2127
02:03:46.270 --> 02:03:49.149
It's your money.
2128
02:04:05.489 --> 02:04:14.479
It's Colonel Mustard with the cracked pipe On Dickerson Pike
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02:04:15.479 --> 02:04:16.720
at night.
2130
02:04:16.960 --> 02:04:26.979
I wouldn't want to be riding no two-story bike On
2131
02:04:27.020 --> 02:04:34.109
Dickerson Pike at night And I know that's right.
2132
02:05:09.890 --> 02:05:14.109
Cut to Brad and Hunter. Nashville, Tennessee.
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They took 65 to 440 to 24 to the Briley
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Parkway to Ellington Parkway and back to 40 and then
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to 440 and then 65 and now.
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They're on Dickerson Pike at night.
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Looking for the party with our friend Amber with the
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granite countertops. She's launching her new fashion line. here in
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the world capital of fashion, Nashville, Tennessee. And they're wondering,
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what kind of condominium would be on a street like this?
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I don't think Amber's parents would let her live out here.
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I don't think Amber's parents would be comfortable with her
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living near all these black people.
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I've never seen so.
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Many black people in my whole goddamn life.
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Turn this car around, Hunter!
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Turn it around! Turn the car around! Yeah!
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Yeah, you can't tell the difference between wrong and right.
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On Dickerson Pike at night. It's paradise by the helicopter.
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Searchlights on Dickerson Pike at night.
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Go!
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The sky is black and the lines are white on
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Dickerson Pike at night and I know that's right.
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Hello, it's me.