Parry Ray

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back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast with Sue
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and Nick and today our special guest is Parry
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Wray. This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving
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you all you need to know about musical entertainment.
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Oh yeah, Chatterbox! And now in Chatterbox we're
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just lucky enough to welcome Pari Wray. Pari,
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welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? I'm so well.
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Thanks so much both for having me. I really,
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really appreciate it. Feeling a little bit warm
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today as we discussed earlier. It's soaring temperatures
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in the UK. I know. I'll tell you what though,
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give me 40 degrees in the Caribbean or random
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air, I'm fine. Yes, me too. Give me 30 in the
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UK. This problem is incredible. Yes, I know.
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Absolutely, absolutely. The infrastructure isn't
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made for it, is it? But we're going to have to
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adapt because we're not in control, I don't think.
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I don't think it's going to go back any time
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soon. I think we're going to get more and more
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hot summers. I agree. I agree. Yes. The most
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important thing is we're here and we got sent
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a fantastic single. of yours from Lisa Davies
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Promotions. Yes, they're wonderful. Bristol,
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well they are, we work with them a lot. And Bristol
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Baines, it sounds fantastic, we both really liked
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it. Oh, thank you. But before we talk about Bristol
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Rains, let's talk about you. You did just become
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Parry Ray, the singer that we see today. So tell
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us about childhood influences. What did you listen
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to as a kid? What's being played at home? I think
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you grew up in a Bengali household in London.
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Yes, yes, that's right. Yeah, my parents are
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both from West Bengal and they came over and
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studied and stayed and built a life. My father
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actually always dreamt of coming to London. I
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think that was his thing. So it was like he hit
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the jackpot when he came here. I was born here.
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Honestly, I don't remember a time we didn't have
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music playing in the house. My mother was a little
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bit more sort of, I think she liked to think
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of herself as more intellectual. Discerning so
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she'd be much more the classical route whether
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it was Western classical music or Indian classical
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music. I think I got my Breath of listening from
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my father. So he would love anything from rock
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and roll Marty while he adored Lulu Like I never
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saw my father move so quickly If Lulu was on
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the TV, he was like a sprinter it was incredible
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and we listened to a lot of classical music We
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listened to a lot of it back in the day Hindi
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movie music, which now of course is Bollywood.
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So And I remember that from really little. So
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about three, really. And another great love of
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mine was musical theatre. I loved the escapism
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of musical theatre and the writing. And in my
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mind, I was always going to be in a musical theatre
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production. So that's still pending on the list
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and high kicking my way through something like
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Chicago or something like that. Although I'm
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not sure I can high kick. I might have to try
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after this. chat. Don't worry, I won't subject
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you to that. I started playing the piano when
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I was two, the guitar when I was ten and I started
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writing a lot of poetry. I'm an only child and
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my parents work full time and so I'm very comfortable
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in my own skin and I very early doors learnt
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to sort of delve into my own imagination so I
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always had a book. a pad of paper and a pen and
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I started writing poetry and because I think
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there was so much music around me that quickly
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translated into song. I think I wrote my proper
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first song when I was about 11. And the exciting
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thing when I hit about 10 or 11, I had a guitar
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teacher who was a jazz musician. and he introduced
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me to jazz and at the same time I started listening
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to a lot of pop and my brain just kind of went
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wha and it was like oh okay there's not just
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this much music there's kind of this much music
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and I think the love for it was planted long
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ago, you know? I mean, probably the same as you
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guys. I'm guessing that you adore music and listen
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to a wide spectrum. And it's a wonderful thing,
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right? It's so evocative and emotive and regardless
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of whether you write it or you just listen. I
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mean, sometimes I just love just listening to
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stuff and... rediscovering things that I haven't
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listened to in like 10 years or listening to
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something going, oh my God, who is that? Where's
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my Shazam? I need to know who that is now. So
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yes, it's always been, it was always a strong
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thread through my upbringing really. Quite eclectic,
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like with me. I can find good and bad in everything
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from classical music right through to punk. Agreed.
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I can, I really can. I can find very bad as well,
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but literally across the board. So it's quite
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interesting you should say that your mum had
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the classical side, your dad had the rock and
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roll side. So fortunately there was no strictness
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there, so you really were opened up to... everything,
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as it were. I was, yeah, I really was. And you're
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a lonely child as well. I'm a lonely child. My
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son's a lonely child. Tim's a lonely child for
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you. My dad was, so yeah. But cleverest people
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are only children, sorry. I was actually going
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to say we're a special tribe, but I don't know
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if that makes us sound like we're special needs.
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But I think we are built in a certain way. There
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is a resiliency, I think, that gets built in.
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Yeah. Which is not a bad thing at all. Well,
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as a child, my mother worked nights as well.
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My dad was out all day on the road being a book
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rep for children's books. It gave me an opportunity
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to discover record collections. Yes. Oh, yes.
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Fantastic stuff in the fifties and the sixties.
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So I learned to love the Seekers before I knew
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who Judith Thuram was or, you know, didn't really.
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I mean, to me, they were as important as the
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Beatles because there was just another record
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I was playing. But so I really learned it. I
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found my own footing there. And that's great,
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because I think like so many things in life,
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there's no right way. to sort of educate yourself
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or enjoy music. It's kind of like it's whatever
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moves you or makes you feel good or the beauty
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of music is whatever moves you're in you will
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you'll have something in your collection that
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will just hit the spot at that time. It's so
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immersive. I agree and I think when it comes
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to Chatterbox, this is how we have such a wide
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range of guests. And now we're six years in,
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all those stations have got so used to us having
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classically trained people. You mentioned Marty
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Wilde, he is the most interviewed guest. Over
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the years I've interviewed him, I think it's
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18 times now. Oh wow. You know, you mentioned
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him, so it shows you how wide it could be. And
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we've seen him live. and we've seen him live.
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Robert Emery, he's with Royal Philharmonic now,
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so we go back to the classical there. Or we've
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got an actor that was in Neighbours for years,
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so we then go that way, and he's brought out
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some stuff. So it's across the board. As long
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as it's got that standard that people are not
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going to switch off to. So we've got 230 radio
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stations listening to a conductor for the Royal
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Philharmonic of Yorkshire, talking about his
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job. I'm not aware of anyone switching off, so
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that's what makes interesting radio. Yes, congratulations
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by the way. How wonderful that you guys have
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been going for so long and building in such a
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wonderful way. We started with 12 didn't we?
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Thank you. We started with 12 didn't we? Yeah.
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But it's the guests that make it, it's not us.
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We do the choosing and keep the standards high,
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but of course it is the guests that produce the
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stuff that we play and talk about. So yeah. So
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you think of it, let's put it back on you. Well,
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I think it's a collaboration, right? And I think
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that's the beautiful thing about music. It's
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wonderful about a conversation like this. And
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also just about being... a human being you know
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we like to connect we like to communicate and
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we we love to collaborate and going back to being
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an only child yes there are certain quirks certainly
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of being an only child you know only children
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but um i really do feel the reason we're here
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is to connect in lots of different ways and a
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lot of great musicians uh pop ones right through
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uh have been only children as well uh mongo jerry
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We've got this song Bristol Rains but now what
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was the first song you brought out and what have
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you done? Do you do any live stuff at all? Oh
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yes I do and what was the first song I brought
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up? Gosh that was a long time ago. I have a number
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of albums and EPs that I've brought out over
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the years. I think what's exciting about Bristol
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Rains is It's the first single from an original
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album and I haven't written an original album
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for over 10 years. I don't know if I was stuck
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or I didn't have a lot to say but something was
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happening and I was I was bringing out other
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stuff because apart from writing my own music
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I love taking like I have an album called Know
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the Way Back where I took a lot of 80s covers.
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I love 80s music and basically pulled it apart
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and put it back together again with an incredible
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team and sort of reharmonize things and kind
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of jazzified it a little bit but not jazz in
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the bebop. intellectual jazz kind of way, still
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really retaining the integrity of the song, because
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I think that's what I really, really love. And
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I sort of covered David Bowie, Prince, The Cure,
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Blondie, like a whole host of things. With regards
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to live stuff, I do Boys' Dales of... Belgravia,
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if anyone's in London, reasonably regularly.
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I'm there, I was there a few weeks ago and I'm
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back next week on the 15th of July. So if you're
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free, come on down. It'd be lovely to see you.
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Belgravia's quite snazzy, isn't it, really? Oh,
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I'm quite snazzy person, you know. You tell the
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outsider looking in, quite snazzy, isn't it?
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Obviously, we know Belgravia's well to do. Well,
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maybe we should call it Victoria. I mean, it
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is Victoria, isn't it? No, no, no, we go Belgravia
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because Victoria's my ex -wife's name, so we're
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going to stick to Belgravia. Ah, okay, definitely.
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We'll definitely delete that. Deleted Belgravia.
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All the way. All the way. Very good. Nick and
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Cheddar Box, Cheddar Box, Cheddar Box, Cheddar
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Box, Cheddar Box. Let's look at Bristol Rains.
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Now, got it filmed in Nashville? Yes. Yeah, so
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what happened was My manager Carly Martin Gammon
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is just the most wonderful woman and has been
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steering my ship for a very long time and I thank
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my lucky stars that you know, we've we're very
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good friends and she has been professionally
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with me for I would say nearly 20 years actually
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if it's not 20 years and It's great because she
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really understands who I am and what I want to
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do and my taste for different things and the
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exploration and curiosity I have around my sort
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of expression. And I was in Nashville in 2021
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for five days. and I got off the plane and immediately
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it was like some strange something in the air
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and I thought I really like it here like there's
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something earthy that's connected there's something
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here and I just said to her well look if there's
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ever an opportunity for me to write or explore
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or we can find any sort of collaboration no pressure
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then I'd love to go and then at the end of 2023
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she said to me How do you fancy booking a flight
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to Nashville? And I said, what? And she said,
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yeah, send your bio and your voice and some songs
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to some people. So I've set up some writing sessions.
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Do you fancy going? And I was like, yes. So what
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was really exciting is this album, and this track
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is the first single from the album, started at
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the beginning of 2023 really as an exploration
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and experiment because I really didn't know what
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was happening what could happen and I think the
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reason I wanted to go was I know it's music city
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it's not just country music and I love mixing
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people of different musical experience different
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backgrounds you know I love getting to into a
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room of diverse characters and personalities
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and musical taste and just seeing what happens
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not not to force something but just to see if
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there's some synergy and my lord there was a
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lot of synergy and it was like this magical road
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that just unfolded in a beautiful way wrote some
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tracks the first time but I wasn't there for
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very long went back later in the year finished
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writing And then kind of last year went back,
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finished things off, found producers, found bands
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and recorded the whole thing out there because
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it was just, it felt like it was born there.
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So it made sense to do the whole thing there.
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I mean, I'm very lucky because here I get my
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band are incredible. I get to work with the most
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wonderful musicians wherever I go. And I feel
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like different projects call for different things.
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This for me is a very This was me expressing
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myself in the most unfiltered way and what was
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really lovely was these lovely friends and colleagues
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whom I met Really encouraged that and I think
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I was ready for it as well You know, I think
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we are presented with certain things at moments
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in life where We go, yeah, this is this is the
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right step. Like always, I'm always thinking
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about the best next step. I can't think too far
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ahead. And it's just have you been you must go.
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If you haven't been, you must go. It's just wonderful.
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And then you're talking about your standards,
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which is so impressive. Everybody there is of
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such a high status like the buskers in the street
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are incredible and. yeah there's so much music
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so much music it's wonderful we have actually
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believe it or not uh actually interviewed a busker
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from Nashville and she did the most amazing honky
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tonk stuff and incredible incredible yes wow
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yeah we really have so yeah yes that's great
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yeah so it's good radio you know it really did
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yeah of course i think um yeah so and what was
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really great was i wanted to Whilst my voice
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is kind of sweet and clear, like back in the
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day I wish I sounded like Pink or Joan Jett and
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I had some grit and I wish I'd had one of those
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big belty voices and I don't, but it lends itself
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to jazz really well and so my voice sounds as
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it sounds, but I didn't want us to be hemmed
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in by... creating a formula of how we wanted
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things to sound. I wanted really to see what
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happened in the writing session and where each
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song took us. Lyrics come to me a lot. I'm constantly
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writing lyrics and I really wanted to be true
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to, let the lyrics guide us musically rather
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than the other way around, rather than trying
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to fit something into a box. Do you know what
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I mean? Which is a really impressive skill when
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people can do that, but I'm not wired that way.
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Okay, one question about Bristol Rains. What
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is the Bristol in Bristol Rains? Oh, the Bristol
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is actually Bristol. It is our Bristol. I was
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at uni in Bristol. line from the chorus Bristol
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Rains are calling me home comes from a very happy
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memory I had when I was in halls of residence
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and we were out and about in Clifton and we were
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running back to, well we heading back to halls
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of residence for dinner and there was an almighty
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rainstorm and I just remember laughing and running
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and being soaked to the, like it was really big
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raindrops and I wanted to write a song about
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sort of reclaiming your voice and realizing even
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though we can be brought to our knees sometimes
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and lose sight of who we are and you know we
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all face challenges through life and we feel
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like our voices may be taken from us and it was
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it was it's really about finding those things
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again and a reclamation of self and I wanted
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to underpin it with a happy memory for me. So
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the intention was kind of infused in the lyrics.
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So that's where that comes from That's cool.
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And also we got quite a following down in Bristol
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as well. So Very important for them. So they'll
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they'll I love Bristol It's the big city down
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that end isn't it? You know, it's like like our
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way we've got Brighton and of course, we've got
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London up the road over there is Bristol is it
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that is that is the Bristol is great and also
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they have such incredible, I mean culturally
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it's great and musically it's so you know vibrant
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it's yeah it's a wonderful city, well as is Brighton
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actually. We're very lucky in this country there
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are so many great towns and cities. But we, it
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was Sue's birthday on Monday and we actually
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took a shopping in Brighton. But I appreciate
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that the art scene is incredible as well. But
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this is how lucky we are now. We might moan about
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the train may take an hour and 20 or an hour
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and a half to get to Charing Cross from Hastings.
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We can drive to Brighton and it's 35 miles. We
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might moan it takes an hour or something. But
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in reality, there's people listening in other
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countries. They're going to be thinking, we're
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in some other places. Imagine the Australian
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station. And he's talking about an hour, but
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people, British people, English people, British
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people, they do moan about how long it takes.
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When we look at countries like Canada, we've
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got a couple of stations. But you imagine how
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wide apart the cities are there. And they wonder
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what on earth we're talking about. They might
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be traveling on a train for a day. Totally, totally.
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Yeah, no, absolutely. I think we're lucky, though,
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with the transport links. But also, like, spending
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time in the States, their culture is so different.
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And it's like, I mean, they'd travel two and
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a half hours for lunch. And I'm like, really?
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I mean, why, why would we do that? You know,
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yes, and I'm Nashville's not really a walking
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city. So, but when I go there, I really try and
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walk. So, but then people do come up to me and
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they kind of go, are you okay? And I'm like,
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yes, I'm absolutely. They're like, but you and
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I'm like, no, no, I'm walking because I just
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want to get my steps in because we do have a
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very different mentality and their transport
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you've in 2018, you launched a podcast series
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called About Last Night. Tell us a bit about
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that. That's right. Well, I realize I wanted
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to do a podcast and I am I'm fascinated with
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how people tune into their sort of internal contentment
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and joy and happiness. And joy for me has been
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I can access my in internal joy very easily and
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I feel very lucky to do that because you know
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as I mentioned we all have twists and turns in
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our lives right that and I think that whilst
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I love playing with the darkness as a songwriter
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and an artist it's important to know you have
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an exit route within yourself so I wanted to
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do something that combined creativity and joy
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and I realized that I was lucky enough to have
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in my circle of friends and people I knew a number
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of people who were really excellent in what they
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did and there was a creative leaning so I really
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wanted to have a conversation firstly because
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I'm curious and I love hearing about other people's
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lives and also give them a bit of a platform
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but also to find out how they tap into joy and
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how they find joy in what they do, but also who
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they are. I think it's more and more important
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day on day. You know, we live in a, we live in
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rather a chaotic world these days. So finding
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your inner grounding I feel is quite important.
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Is the About Last Night podcast, are you still
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doing new episodes of it? Not at the moment.
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I'm actually trying to think about taking that
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idea, I know that Fern, Fern Cotton? It's still
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on the platforms though, isn't it? Oh yes, yes,
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it's definitely still on the platform. I think
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Fern Cotton did a podcast or does one still call
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My Happy Place or something. And I think that
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was kind of where I was headed. So I think I'd
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like to think of a tangential idea. But I love
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podcasts. I love that we have so many outlets
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for creativity these days. We're very, we're
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very lucky. We are, we are. Well, podcast guest
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is something else we do, so whenever you reinvent
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it or whatever you do with it or restart it or
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whatever you do, we can have a chat about that.
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Oh, that's lovely. Because remember, we've got
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our own podcast platform. Yes, yes. Gosh, you
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guys must be very busy. There's never enough
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hours. There isn't. I've obviously got a proper
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job as well to pay the bills. Yes, of course.
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I think the podcast just about rakes enough money
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to buy a microphone every so often and little
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things, you know. That's the idea, though. At
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least it's covering the cost for bits and pieces,
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you know, that's the idea. Of course, of course.
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So what is next for you? Well, I released another
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single from my album yesterday, actually, and
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that's called Slow Suicide. And what we're going
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to do is release another single in August the
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whole album will be out at the end of September
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and I should be heading back to Nashville towards
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the end of the year because we've started writing
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for the next album and I think that's what's
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so lovely about Creative Flow once you're kind
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of in it it's kind of you're like you're on your
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way so I'm very focused on getting us another
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album, not the second album, but the second album,
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let's say in my Nashville adventures written.
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I also wrote a book manuscript in COVID and then
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I kind of went down the publishing route with
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it and then decided as further we went down the
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route that I wanted to add different elements
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into it that I hadn't done. So at the moment,
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I'm reworking that. It's funny when you say there
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aren't enough hours in the day. I totally understand
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.299
what you mean. So at the moment, I'm pulling
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that apart and putting it back together again
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with a slightly different slant because I don't
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like sitting around doing nothing. I think you
00:32:07.299 --> 00:32:10.720
might have mentioned the title but do remind
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.200
me, what is the title of the album that's coming
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.900
out? Oh well actually we're not telling anyone
00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:18.559
yet. I thought I was guilty of not listening
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properly. No you're so lovely. No we're actually
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gonna wait till the end of August before we release
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that but I'll let you know for sure. Thank you.
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.220
You have, I believe, there's only been so many
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minutes and I know we've got to let you go in
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.299
a minute. I've got a question to ask. I fear
00:32:41.299 --> 00:32:45.180
you may have undersold yourself a bit. Performed
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regularly at the Royal Albert Hall. Well, beyond
00:32:48.539 --> 00:32:51.400
the main stage, not the main stage, but yes.
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:02.619
Upstairs at Raleigh Scots. Yes. That's a pretty
00:33:02.619 --> 00:33:04.440
good little gig, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, it was
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.380
great. And I'm hoping to go back. And Boysdale's,
00:33:08.380 --> 00:33:11.019
I have to say, I love Boysdale's. It's so good.
00:33:11.339 --> 00:33:13.420
You do three sets. It's kind of like getting
00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:18.490
three lots of audience. They're so... They're
00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:22.029
just so enthusiastic and attentive. It's so much
00:33:22.029 --> 00:33:24.849
fun. And Leanne Carroll, who you've produced
00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:26.730
and curated stuff with, I know her personally.
00:33:26.869 --> 00:33:30.829
She lives in my hometown. Well, I also know Leanne.
00:33:31.130 --> 00:33:33.970
We share a producer. We haven't worked together,
00:33:34.049 --> 00:33:36.450
but we shared a producer, Jane St. Millen. Yeah,
00:33:36.710 --> 00:33:39.849
I know Leanne and she's wonderful. Wonderful.
00:33:40.049 --> 00:33:43.619
What a talent. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:46.539
And she still plays one night or so down here
00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:48.940
in Hastings. At Porter's? Yes, where she started.
00:33:49.059 --> 00:33:52.759
Yes, yeah. I've been there many a time. Just
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.279
carries you away. Absolutely. So there you go.
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:56.900
She's incredible. Absolutely incredible. Yeah,
00:33:56.900 --> 00:33:58.559
she really, really is. I absolutely know her
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.240
personally. I'm a classmate as a friend, you
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.000
know. Not just face -to -face. Lovely. Yeah,
00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:06.019
I've got it. Lovely. 35 years or more, I've probably
00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:08.800
been watching and listening to her. Things like
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.840
that. Wow. Wow. Incredible. Okay, did you say
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.480
what it said? Yes. What keeps you going? You've
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.239
got so much energy, so much confidence. What's
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.360
the secret? Oh, I don't know about confidence.
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.800
That's interesting because I think I do have...
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I always feel like there's an orchestra in my
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:34.500
head and the doubting part of me sometimes is
00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:36.699
dialed up a little bit louder than I would like
00:34:36.699 --> 00:34:41.300
and I have to dial it down. I think I suppose
00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:44.059
I alluded to it a little bit like we all are
00:34:44.059 --> 00:34:46.619
faced with challenges through life and there
00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:49.000
have been a number of things not wanting to sound
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.599
over dramatic that have kind of brought me to
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:55.179
my knees and kind of made me really look at myself
00:34:55.179 --> 00:34:57.539
and we always have choice points don't we in
00:34:57.539 --> 00:35:01.659
life and it's kind of like we none of us escape
00:35:01.659 --> 00:35:04.989
being broken in some way But it's kind of like
00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:07.909
what am I gonna do with this? So I was saying
00:35:07.909 --> 00:35:11.889
earlier to Nick that I am lucky because I have
00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:15.789
this Fire of joy inside me that's been there
00:35:15.789 --> 00:35:19.030
always my ex -husband always used to say to me
00:35:20.539 --> 00:35:23.440
I always say I can always find a silver lining.
00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:26.440
Sometimes it's really hard, but there is one
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.900
if you look hard enough. And he used to get very
00:35:28.900 --> 00:35:32.500
irritated with me and say, no, there isn't. Sometimes
00:35:32.500 --> 00:35:36.039
everything is just awful. And I don't know how,
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.039
but I refuse to believe that. I refuse to believe
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.179
that. And I think there's always something wonderful
00:35:41.179 --> 00:35:43.579
if you look for it. And I think once you get
00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:49.000
into that way of feeling and thinking, it kind
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.599
of propels you a little bit. But I promise you,
00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.679
it's so kind of you to say that I come across
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.719
as confident because... No, I noticed it as soon
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.280
as we started chatting. You're so kind. Well,
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.920
I just think you're both very welcoming and lovely.
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.019
And it's lovely to chat about music and creativity
00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:10.920
and what other people are doing as well. I love
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.679
people and I love connecting with people. So
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.019
I think I'm probably a bit like a yappy little
00:36:18.019 --> 00:36:20.559
puppy in that sense, which might get irritating.
00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:26.800
But confidence, I think, you know, confidence
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:31.980
is a sliding scale. I love what I do. And it's
00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:35.619
taken a while, but I like who I am now. There
00:36:35.619 --> 00:36:38.679
were a good few years where I didn't always like
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.519
who I was and I had to learn to love myself.
00:36:42.969 --> 00:36:45.730
And I think I'm not alone in that. Lots of people
00:36:45.730 --> 00:36:49.809
go through that journey. But, yeah, I think life
00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:53.510
is for living and making the most of. And, you
00:36:53.510 --> 00:36:55.349
know, I get to meet like -minded people like
00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:58.130
you guys and be surrounded by beautiful people.
00:36:58.610 --> 00:37:00.449
And, yeah, there's a lot of beauty in this world
00:37:00.449 --> 00:37:04.269
if we look for it. Thank you. You've got to be
00:37:04.269 --> 00:37:07.039
positive in life because... The other end of
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.559
it, not looking at the silver lining, is negativity,
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.460
definitely breeds negativity and you're a downward
00:37:13.460 --> 00:37:16.320
spiral. In any capacity, you need to have that
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.039
hope and that positiveness. I assume we've got
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.000
another interview like now, I guess, at half
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.579
past ten. Soon, yes. Let's do the social media
00:37:24.579 --> 00:37:27.360
quickly, please. So yeah, I mean, we're all right.
00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:30.360
We talk all day, but you need your help. So yeah,
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.800
Pari, let's do your social media websites, where
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.960
people can find you, please. OK, great. Thank
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.739
you so much. So I'm most active on Instagram,
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.960
but my Instagram is linked to my Facebook. It's
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.840
parireinharmony. And I have a website parire
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.780
.com. Note to self, make sure it's up to date.
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.679
But Instagram and Facebook really are the places
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.920
to find me. me. And thank you so much for having
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.199
me. It's been such a joy to chat to you guys.
00:37:56.659 --> 00:37:59.639
Let's do it again sometime. I'd love that. I'd
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.260
love that. Thank you so much. Every success with
00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:05.579
this and the album and every success with all
00:38:05.579 --> 00:38:08.599
the interviews. Thank you. You too. Take care.
00:38:08.659 --> 00:39:17.469
Take care. Bye. the Chatterbox Redux podcast
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