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Welcome to the two of us today.
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Yeah, you can sing that song.
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I can say every time, every time I start singing, I won't do it this time.
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What I was thinking in the car earlier, Brian, was we should have like a list of two of us songs.
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There must be other, like two for tea, te for two, that sort of thing.
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And then you can sing a different one each time.
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Maybe so.
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Two rounds of Jovose Aquirvo.
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Two is better than one.
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I'm sure that's uh two is the magic number.
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Is that the two is the magic number?
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There you go.
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That's a good one.
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Yep.
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There you go, see.
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Uh perhaps the listeners can help us out with other two songs.
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I'm sure we can't just opening ever.
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I'm sure we can Gemini this.
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I I wonder, you know how when you go to Google it now just defaults to Gemini?
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Should we change the name of Googling something to Geminiing something?
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Uh super Geminiing something, Bri.
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I've decided it's it's no longer just Gemini, it's Super Gemini.
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Of America.
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That's a weird it has a weird name to pick for your AI, Gemini.
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Um, yeah, I I suppose it's got an I in it.
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There's a bit of a pun.
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What did Google know about naming anyway?
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I mean, they could have called it some other astrological sign, I guess, but I mean they should have named it after a number.
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Like Google was named after a number.
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That's the way forward, surely.
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Like 10 is 10.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Because that's that's about how much it's worth.
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10 cents.
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It's terrible, terrible LLM.
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Anyways.
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Actually, is it though, Bri?
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Like really super quick things.
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It's good.
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If you just want to like Google how to make soup.
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Here's my problem.
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Like every I bet you literally, I say every, I bet you 80% of the time when I'm trying to Google something and it brings up the AI thing, I find something, I'm like, that's just simply not true.
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That's not true.
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I know that's not true.
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And when I push it, I'm like, yeah, that can't be true.
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It's like, oh, you're right, you caught me.
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And I'm like, this is so useless.
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I need you to be accurate.
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I need you to be accurate when I'm asking you something.
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Well, I mean And I mean, like, if not, then just stay out of the way so I can go find it myself.
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Geez.
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If you don't like the results when you do look for, I don't know, average size of something, there's nothing I can say about it, bro.
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Okay.
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Should should this appendiature look like this?
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Is green the right colour?
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Um I I tell you what you can weigh in on Bri, and and this isn't AR, but it does come from that lovely internet.
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Is the top 10 reasons to move to Indiana?
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Now, the reason I've thought about this is because right behind me on the floor.
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Can you see?
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Yeah, can you see those parcels down there, Bri?
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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One of those is coming to you, Bri.
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I'm sorry.
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Did you ever get your candy?
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No, it got it got stuck in a post office for a million years.
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Oh my gosh.
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Turned back up to your good lady wife, who got like a you were out, we've got something at the post office.
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She went to the post office and it was crushed candy and not the game.
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It's just dust, like, oh, I see now that's why they uh they wouldn't let it pass.
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It's just dust.
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It's just it's just like colourful, glittery dust.
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So no, I never got it.
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I I I maintain that it doesn't exist and it's something you've made up.
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Um, but no, I've boxed up a pedal for you and for Blake, and I'm gonna be sending them out next time I go to the post office.
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And I like I I thought about this.
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It's really bad that I didn't send you them straight away, but I I had to sell enough to make sure that it was viral.
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No, yeah, don't worry about that.
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But you have been on your you're in like the second influencer tier now, so you're all getting it.
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Oh, am I?
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Yeah, you should be pleased about that.
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I think I have a little look.
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I haven't released a video for several months, maybe like three or four.
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Maybe like six, but you know, that's also crossed my mind, bro.
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I was like, I'm gonna send this to Bri, and uh like if I'd have done this a year ago, guaranteed he'll make some content featuring it.
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Now I'm not so sure.
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I've just been so busy this year, it's always you know, it's it's not that I've like abandoned it, not you know, not intentionally, but I mean I need to get back into it.
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Everything's the algorithm thing has completely changed where used to you you you would try to use some sort of sticky topic to get attention from a larger group of people, and now like that stuff just doesn't work really well.
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Now you have to like niche down, and so you see views that are like down, but uh like from different channels, but it's actually more more of a um of an audience with intent.
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Yes, you know, more of an audience with quantity, right?
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Yeah, very much so, yeah.
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So I can help you out here, Bright.
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If you need more eyes on your video, you simply need to enter the world of YouTube drama.
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You simply need to write a video showing off why all of these YouTubers are and insert whichever words you want.
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Because apparently that's how you get views.
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So something like hinting Polly actually has hair, he just is faking it like that.
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Oh, that would be amazing.
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He's wearing a bald wig all this time.
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That might be really offensive.
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Josh God is actually short, you know, it's just all a big ploy.
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That would be so cool, that would be very cool.
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Robert Keeley is actually AI, he's actually the first Elon Musk robot.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, these are the sort of rumors we need to start.
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No, um very quickly, more drama.
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Uh honestly, I'm so bored of YouTubers having drama now.
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Um but KDH put out a very lengthy takedown video of the six-string um situation.
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It was pretty measured, about twice as long as it needed to be for me, to be fair.
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Um, but he, you know, he's a detailed guy, he goes into the weeds.
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So hopefully this is done.
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Yeah, good dude.
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We've had him on the podcast before.
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Um, I just like for me as a viewer, I don't still have time for for drama stuff.
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I haven't watched any of it.
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I I only know about it from you guys.
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Yeah, and the and the group, but I'm guilty of consuming it now, Bri.
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And I'm worried, well, yeah, because I've watched all of these videos, because of course the algorithm's gone.
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Uh, you like a one video about a YouTuber.
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Here have 4,000 more every day in your feed.
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That's an entire feed.
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Yeah, you you do end up clicking on it on the odd one.
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And like I have learnt about YouTubers I didn't know existed in the guitar space through this.
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That is a good thing.
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I've I've seen YouTubers I never knew about that.
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Yeah, you know, now now I'll watch what they're doing.
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Yeah, but generally the ones that I've seen bitching, I'm looking at going, I don't think this is a great advert for you as a content creator.
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If you're more interested in getting clicks from the the the sort of salacious side, I like when we when we send a demo pedal out, we want the person to be serious, like they can be funny, but they have to be doing a job, and we're not paying them to you know give us a good result, we're just paying them to take attention.
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And I worry that those that get more embroiled in the gossip and humor side aren't the best people for that.
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But that's fine, everyone can exist, and I'm I'm cool with that.
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I mean, like you said, if nothing else, it shows that there's a lot of YouTubers out there that uh talk about gear.
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Yeah, way more than I thought.
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Like every week now I find a new thing, and their channel is always named something like that guitar guy, and I'm like, which guitar guy?
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But like maybe maybe that's your YouTube channel.
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Your YouTube channel needs to be called That Guitar Guy.
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Could well be, yeah.
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I don't think I can pull that one off, Brian.
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Uh I was actually writing up a blog for Oliver FX earlier, um, because you know, blogs are good things.
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And uh I was writing this blog, and then I was like, I I've been playing guitar an awful long time, and I'm still, I still like really am down on my own playing.
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I've never like sometimes I stop and go, oh yes, that sounded good, but generally I'm not as good a player as I thought I would be after 30 years of of playing.
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That 10,000 hours thing hasn't paid off.
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Anyway, top 10 reasons to move to Indiana.
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Oh yes.
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Wow.
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So I can only think of one, and that's because it's the cost of living is much cheaper here than most other places in America.
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Well, we'll go through them.
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Basketball is the state religion.
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Do you like basketball?
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I mean I out of all the sports, that's the one I can tolerate the most.
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Let's put it that way.
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But I never I I played like for three months in middle school, and then I got bored and started wrestling.
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Um I mean again, you you're the same sort of age as me.
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Yeah, it's just okay to me.
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Like I can tolerate it, but it's not like baseball where I'm just like, I'm literally can't watch any of this, or I'll fall asleep.
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Yeah, I mean, I I love all American sports, in honesty, but basketball is probably the closest to soccer because it is like constant action, it's soccer with the hands, isn't it?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I I I dig it for that.
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But like me, Bri, you grew up in the era of Michael J.
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Fox's teen wolf.
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So at one point, being a good baseball uh basketball player was almost as important as being able to transform into a wolf.
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I believe that's a big deal.
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Yeah, I mean, it's it's pretty common.
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I mean, it's very, very common here.
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I would say, and people take it very seriously.
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Yeah.
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Um, so like even like college basketball is huge here.
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They have something called like I think it's called the Big Ten, which I guess it's the Big Ten universities where they have big basketball championships or whatever.
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I I know this sounds stupid, I have no idea.
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I've heard people talk about it.
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Um, but then one is a statistic.
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Yeah, one's definitely a yes for sure.
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Yeah, basketball is that original.
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Almost all of your gas stations, now I had to double check this, have gum, not gun.
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Gum.
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Gum gum, G-U-M, yes.
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So this confused me because I literally that's true, but my question is don't all gas stations have stations have gum?
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That's like saying their grass has dirt underneath.
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And it was at this point that I started to think, hold on, wait a minute.
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This is clickbait.
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Any Chinese assassin squad will never think to look for you there.
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How do you qualify that as a reason to move to Indiana?
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I this one I I honestly thought there has to be something about like pop history or something.
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I just don't have a clue here.
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I have no idea what that's referring to.
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I have no idea what it is.
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Maybe there's a film that we're we're both supposed to have seen.
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Maybe so.
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You'll never have to worry about riots from fans celebrating a Super Bowl victory.
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Okay, fine.
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Okay.
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But here's one that resonates.
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Also, you'll never have to worry about tidal waves.
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Yeah.
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So fine.
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Or volcano eruptions.
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It's cities have nice, friendly names like Gary.
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Now that is something that does freak me out.
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Gary is not known to be a nice friendly city.
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Well, Bri, I think it's time for you to now expand your land and create a new city.
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And I think we should call it Colin.
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So, I mean, everything here's Villes.
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You know, you have the Martinsville, you have the Mooresville, you know, you have the Wamplerville.
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Actually, that's not here, but should be.
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That's one of the worst computer games I've ever played, Wamblerville.
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Wamplerville.
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Yeah.
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You've got to feed a goat.
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You can only ever own one goat.
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Um world-class cuisine, like milk and salted eggs.
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See, again, salted eggs, what are you talking about?
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What is a salted egg?
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Is that just literally an egg with salt on it?
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I have no idea.
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I mean, I would say, if anything, stuff like French toast, like the general bacon and eggs and hamburgers and hot dogs.
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That's that's what we hear.
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It's very rarely anything fancy.
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It's just it's foods that were popular 80 years ago.
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Do you sweeten your French toast?
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What do you mean you sweeten?
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Like syrup on it?
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Some people put powdered sugar on it, some people put powdered sugar and syrup on it, some people just syrup.
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I mean, people make it different ways here.
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The probably the most popular way is with powdered sugar and syrup.
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Wow, that's insane.
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That is insane.
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Yeah, as you can tell, it's like an 8,000 calorie meal.
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It's a great meal though.
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You know?
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I mean, we we have it in England, only we go by the by the uh the more um workmanlike title, egggy bread.
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And we don't put any of that sugar or uh syrup on it.
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We generally put ketchup, which probably has quite a bit of sugar in it.
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But okay, all right.
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So um Sophie Cunningham, who's she?
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No idea.
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I was hoping you would actually let me know.
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She must be some attractive actress or whatever.
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I have no idea who that is.
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None of your relatives will ever come to visit.
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Is that a fact?
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I don't think that's fair to you.
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So I mean I mean, I live next to all my relatives, so that's not true.
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But I would say that probably as much like if you live in Florida, everybody comes to visit you because you like live in a touristy vacation spot, right?
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But if you live in India, hurricane season.
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Right, right.
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But if you live in Indiana, like there's nothing here.
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There's hills.
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Like if you if you like forest, it's nice, I suppose.
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If you like camping, it's nice.
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Uh, if you like seasons, we have all four seasons.
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Yep.
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But other than that, there's really nothing, nothing else.
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Sometimes in England we have all four seasons in one day.
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It's not a good thing.
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Yeah, I have talked to you.
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I I was in shorts, now I am in a coat.
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Yeah, no, it's it's turned here over.
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Right.
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Uh, so enjoy all the glamour of living in Ohio without having to actually live in Ohio.
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I don't understand that reference either.
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That's such a slam, like like Ohio's so bad.
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It's actually not.
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There's great places in Ohio.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'm pretty sure there's great places in every single American state because it's a big country.
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Uh yeah, I mean, there's there's I mean, I like I like the Midwest just because it's simple.
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It's simple life.
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You know what?
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I would love to simplify my own life.
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It's the only state named after a dog.
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No, that's not true.
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Indiana is named after Native Americans because this it was full of Native Americans.
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And at the time, we didn't call them Native Americans.
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Just like Indianapolis is the city of Indiana, you know?
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Yeah.
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So I I think you're correct.
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I think that this um this Ten Reasons to move to Indiana is in furious.
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Yeah, I think so.
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It was written by Gemini.
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You know it was.
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I I like that though.
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The the Midwest version of Gemini appears to be Gemini.
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I like that.
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We're gonna call him Gemini.
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Gemini, yeah, nice.
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Good.
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Uh so yeah, that's the um the AI and Indiana portion of uh this over.
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Uh what what else has been going on with you this week, bro?
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You've been very busy.
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Oh man, oh, it's been so busy.
00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:13.720
So we released Pedal Spice.
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I've been testing the pedal head before it goes to final production.
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And the instructions for testing the pedal head have been fantastic.
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Yeah.
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Um, I was literally told, try to do, try to use this in the dumbest of ways to make the stupidest mistakes that anyone could possibly make.
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Okay.
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And I'm like, so you want me to pour beer down the down the amp input jack, output jack, right?
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Yeah, bro.
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Why are you setting light to it?
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Well, you did say.
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I throw it in the road and I run to Dover, you know.
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Have you tried plugging a tube amp into the wrong bit and a speaker into the wrong bit?
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Use it loner equipment.
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I mean, yeah, you say that, but yeah.
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Yeah.
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Did it did it break it?
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No.
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Amazing.
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Now hold on.
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Let me back up.
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That doesn't say try it yourself.
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No, this is me saying this is not usage.
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Right, right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I did a lot of stupid things to um to try to break it.
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Yeah.
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Still in the process of it.
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Not completely done.
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Okay.
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Have to think of some more stupid things to do.
00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.839
Well, I'm full of I'm full of ideas that most people would consider stupid.
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Day one was like, act like you're drunk and use it.
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I'm like, all right, let me work on that first part.
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You know.
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Uh I I had a very good cider over the weekend.
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Six and a half percent.
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So, um, okay, pedal head and pedal spice.
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Now, I'm disappointed to learn that pedal spice is not a drug that I can smoke that makes me better at playing music.
00:17:51.159 --> 00:17:54.599
But it was uh you obviously misread the brief.
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You meant you've heard of spice girls, right?
00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:58.599
This was the additional spice girl, I guess.
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Oh, have I heard of Spice Girls?
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Pedal Spice.
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Yes.
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No, so I mean, Spice software is basically circuit simulation software.
00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:16.759
And and I'm a little confused about this because I thought Spice was like a brand name of a commercial piece of software, but it's not, it's more a type of software, is that right?
00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.879
Yeah, so I forget what it stands for.
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It's an acronym.
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And it stands for simulation program with integrated circuit emphasis.
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Okay.
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So, uh, which basically means circuit simulation.
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And there's there's a bunch of them.
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Most of them are made for engineers to do like legitimate engineering work on all different types of circuits.
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Um, the thing that I've complained about probably on this podcast as well, is that when you're designing pedals, you just need like this little tiny portion of it.
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You don't need all the other crap.
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Yeah, and so it's not, and it's not really made for like someone to just use it that way.
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I mean, it will work in that way, but it's just not user-friendly at all.
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You have to read tutorials and watch videos and install libraries, and it's just not user-friendly.
00:19:05.719 --> 00:19:17.319
So I'm like, look, I want something that whenever I have a question, I can go to my browser, put in the circuit in like 30 seconds, do whatever changes I'm making, like, ah, that's what I need to do.
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Okay, and then go back to work.
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So I kind of made the software that I've been wanting to make for years and years and years.
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It has circuit calculators in it with like all the popular, most common use uh types of circuits.
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And and here's what I mean by that.
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Like, let's say you want an EQ circuit.
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Generally, whenever you're trying to make an EQ circuit, you're like, all right, well, what frequency am I wanting?
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Probably about 700 hertz.
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So, what happens if I adjust this capacitor?
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Okay, that's the wrong way.
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What happens if I adjust this resistor?
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Okay, that's not doing that either.
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And so you're like trial and erring trying to figure it out.
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And I thought, this is stupid.
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I want a slider where I can move it.
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I want to move the slider to the frequency I want, move a slider to make it how wide I want, and another one for you know, how the the amount I uh of button uh boost and cut that I want.
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And then I wanted to just give me the values done.
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Super easy.
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And then I just like I click send a pedal spice and it puts it in my spice software.
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Okay.
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You know?
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I mean, because this does, you know, we were talking a little bit about this off air.
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This goes back to one of the earliest conversations you and I had when I knew nothing about how pedals were designed, but was coming from a kind of software engineering viewpoint.
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And I said to you then, I I remember the conversation, you know, isn't there some software where you can kind of like re-you know jig the components around and hear what it sounds like?
00:20:43.479 --> 00:20:46.919
And you're like, no, but how much would it cost for you to write that, Richard?
00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:48.919
Right, that's exactly what I've been wanting.
00:20:49.159 --> 00:20:51.079
How big is your checkbook, sir?
00:20:51.239 --> 00:20:53.479
Um, because it's which was true.
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Yeah, no, if you'd tried to do this 10 years ago, it would have been a you know, a proper, hard, research-led software project.
00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:21.879
Clearly, one of the strengths of AI, and it's no secret that you've used AI to help you build this software, is that it can do some of those heavy lifting parts when it comes to you know the maths, which you would have maybe had to have worked at, you know, worked out with some aid, but pretty much yourself in the past.
00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.599
And you know, being really honest, like everyone says, let's just slop.
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Dude, I know some seriously sloppy engineers.
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You think you've seen AI slop?
00:21:33.239 --> 00:21:51.239
Dude, you're talking to a man who did a demo for a piece of software that was sold for two million pounds, and whilst that demo was being shown to somebody, there was a man in the server room manually adjusting tables in an SQL database to make it look like it was working.
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I know bad software.
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All right, the lord of bad software, but right, no, look, yeah, for sure.
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Of course, the minute you mention using AI to anybody, they're gonna freak out and have an opinion and and and tell you it.
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But no disrespect respect, Bri.
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I know an awful lot of people who I would call genius coders, and you ain't one of them.
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Like, no, I mean, uh, I never said I was, yeah, for sure.
00:22:24.439 --> 00:22:25.239
Yeah, absolutely.
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But you have transformed into a kind of software engineer in like kind of in the last three weeks.
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Because people kind of think, oh, I want to write this, I'm just gonna type it all into one long paragraph, hit read.
00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:43.159
Return and clawed code will go and build it.
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That isn't how using software, you know, agentic coding works.
00:22:48.439 --> 00:22:50.599
So this took me to get an idea of it.
00:22:50.679 --> 00:22:52.119
I mean, so let me back up.
00:22:52.199 --> 00:23:05.159
So there are a lot of actual coding engineers that will use Claude or something like that in order to write code now because it's just so much more efficient, so much faster, as long as you know what to ask.
00:23:05.479 --> 00:23:11.639
Um, and most, I would hope, most of them aren't saying build me X, enter.
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You know, like that's the wrong way to do it.
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.839
So I started doing this three months ago.
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And when I say started doing it, I it's been running for about almost 24 hours a day whenever possible.
00:23:22.919 --> 00:23:27.079
So it's been running the entire time, even when I sleep, like I press run.
00:23:27.399 --> 00:23:37.959
And and I can confirm this because I've got up at six in the morning UK time, and I've observed Brian still being online many, many times.
00:23:38.199 --> 00:23:42.279
And I know I know he isn't gaming because I've also got his Xbox account.
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.439
So it's just the software running.
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Yeah, and the whole thing is like it's I I needed to be very precise in what I wanted to do.
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It also has to be very secure, which is a step that a lot of people who are quote unquote vibe coding skip right over.
00:23:55.959 --> 00:24:00.919
Uh, in fact, there was when I was making my own, two more came out that I saw.
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One of them doesn't work at all.
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I think I mentioned that.
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Like it just you click on the schematic editor, it just doesn't work.
00:24:07.239 --> 00:24:11.079
It looks like they spent about 30 seconds in replit or something like that making it.
00:24:11.159 --> 00:24:13.959
It's terrible or lovable or whatever.
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:21.639
Um, and the other one's actually pretty decent, but it didn't do it doesn't do everything that I wanted it to do.
00:24:21.879 --> 00:24:25.239
And there's just some weird quirks to it that I wasn't fond of.
00:24:25.399 --> 00:24:30.279
So I mean, like again, I'm I made the thing perfect for for my use, and I'm hoping other people like it.
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:31.879
Well, let's break that down a bit.
00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:36.519
What what is it about how you wanted to use the software that makes this unique?
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.159
Why is this uh different than any other ones?
00:24:39.879 --> 00:24:44.759
So I mentioned the the calculators, which is unless you're using the software, you're not gonna understand what I see what I mean.
00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:47.079
But they're basically slider bars, right?
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:53.959
Well, I mean it's like a button that you pull up, it brings a screen up that has all the most common types of circuits that you would use for pedals.
00:24:54.359 --> 00:25:03.559
And then yeah, you can use slider buttons if you if you want to do this, you can use slider buttons to make your adjustments to EQ and gain and all that stuff very quick.
00:25:03.719 --> 00:25:06.199
And that way you're not drawing out of it, it's just a time saver.
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:15.399
Then you just basically send it into the into the uh pedal spice software, and it it's already there drawn, completely like ready to go.
00:25:15.639 --> 00:25:22.199
And usually that's you know, that may be a 10 10-minute ordeal there, drawing out drawing out a whole circuit block.
00:25:22.439 --> 00:25:27.559
And it's done in 30 seconds, you know, so it's a huge time saver whenever you design a lot of circuits.
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:29.159
And then you can also save those.
00:25:29.239 --> 00:25:34.439
So let's say you make one, you're like, oh, this works great in all of my different types of overdrive circuits.
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.799
So I can now save that into another area called circuit blocks.
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:44.119
So whenever I'm designing circuits, I just literally drag it in and boom, that's the whole front end of that particular circuit.
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:52.279
Or EQ, if I use uh four different types of EQ stages, for example, um, then it's already saved in there.
00:25:52.439 --> 00:25:59.799
I can maneuver the frequencies and everything else, but the actual structure of a given circuit block is already in there.
00:26:00.199 --> 00:26:01.879
So it's it's just a huge time saver.
00:26:01.959 --> 00:26:09.879
And at the end of the day, if you want to hear what it sounds like, there you can kind of do this with LT Spice, but it just sounded trashy.
00:26:10.439 --> 00:26:16.359
Other softwares do it, but they don't they don't do it accurately because you have you would have to dumb down the the models.
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.519
But I I incorporated the neuromodeling technology into it.
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:35.959
So you basically send it through a neuromodel, and I have a couple different of my, you know, like Marshall, Vox, Fender style topologies with or without the cabinet, or I can run it or make a direct sound if I want, but I want to see what it's gonna sound like through my amp.
00:26:36.199 --> 00:26:37.479
To give you an approximation, right?
00:26:37.879 --> 00:26:42.599
So I made a neural model of my amp, so I know exactly what it's gonna sound like through that amp.
00:26:43.159 --> 00:26:50.919
For me, that is probably like the killer app of this, is that you can hear it and and play around.
00:26:51.159 --> 00:26:57.159
I gotta say though, Bri, with at least three of the pedals I tried building, that they sounded like this.
00:26:59.719 --> 00:27:01.559
But see, that's that that's another feature.
00:27:08.439 --> 00:27:10.759
I haven't quite understood it yet.
00:27:11.159 --> 00:27:18.759
I think uh I I think that was um I'm not even gonna say it.
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:20.759
I think that was not what you think it was.
00:27:20.919 --> 00:27:23.959
Yeah, that was from a different different point of your life, I think.
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:24.759
Uh maybe.
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:25.719
It's possible.
00:27:25.879 --> 00:27:26.839
It's very possible.
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:28.599
No, it's it's a lot of fun.
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:33.639
Like so I gave it the dummy test, which is I'm not even gonna read any of the tool tips.
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:36.439
I'm just gonna go in, play with it, see what happens.
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:37.959
And you can make it do stuff.
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:45.159
If you have a vague idea of what a pedal should be under the hood, then you can get some great results really quickly.
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:50.439
And and there are example schematics and blocks that you can already put in there, as you say.
00:27:50.679 --> 00:27:52.519
But it's it for me, it's super simple.
00:27:52.679 --> 00:28:03.639
But I think the killer app you've come up with is the now convert it into an IARD up sound, essentially, like something that sounds realistic.
00:28:03.879 --> 00:28:09.079
And made me think about creating my own product, which I'm gonna call pedal salt.
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:24.199
And what that is, is you plug a guitar into your computer, you play it, and it draws the circuit for you and sends it to Brian's pedal size, and then creates you a schematic that it sends back out as an IR.
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:29.879
Then together, Bri, we're we're almost like a classic, like you've heard of Starsky and Hutch.
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:31.639
Here's Salt and Spice.
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:35.159
That's a good idea.
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:36.119
That's a real good idea.
00:28:36.199 --> 00:28:37.799
I'd I'm surprised I didn't think of that earlier.
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:39.559
Yeah, why didn't you?
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:44.279
Um no, I I I think it's a really neat piece of work.
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:52.759
But look, I've also observed you getting a few people like make uh some negative comments about it online.
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:59.159
So I mean, the first thing I'm gonna say to everybody is you don't have to use it if you don't want to.
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:00.679
Like scroll past.
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:04.119
If you if you just want to say bad things, scroll past.
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:13.399
And I think but I I would say a lot of those, a lot of the negative comments come from people that I'm not really it's not really built for them, you know.
00:29:13.479 --> 00:29:27.239
So like I said, LT Spice works great, especially if you're if you're doing heavy engineering, and if you're looking at it from an engineering perspective where you kind of need some of those features that most DIYers don't need, stick with LT Spice, you know?
00:29:27.879 --> 00:29:33.639
But I mean that to me, this is like an extension of the creative side of breadboarding.
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:42.199
So we're breadboarding, like it's very much like breadboarding in a digital realm, but you can do more things because it is in the digital realm.
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:48.039
You know, I I I have at least one other idea to give you, but I'll give you it off-air uh and and charge you a commission.
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:48.919
No, I'm joking.
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:57.959
Um, but it it made me think when you said, you know, people don't need like the full version of like spice for for just doing better.
00:29:58.279 --> 00:29:59.559
I thought, yeah, he's right.
00:29:59.639 --> 00:30:05.559
I mean, you don't need voltages beyond say 24 volts, um, and typically nine to eighteen.
00:30:05.879 --> 00:30:08.279
So there's probably stuff in all these spice simulators.
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:09.239
And I just added that.
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:10.439
That was the new update last night.
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:11.879
I added a bunch of different voltages.
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:12.599
There you go.
00:30:12.679 --> 00:30:13.399
See, clever.
00:30:13.479 --> 00:30:14.599
That's all clever stuff.
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.559
But see, and this goes back to why am I paying for it?
00:30:17.639 --> 00:30:21.239
Because if you ask LT Spice to do something, they're gonna ignore you.
00:30:21.399 --> 00:30:26.519
Yeah, they don't care, they don't care if you use their software, they want you to buy their their parts.
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:28.599
Yeah, that's the only reason the software exists.
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.479
So yeah, that's part of what you pay for.
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:33.559
When like, I wish it would do this.
00:30:33.719 --> 00:30:36.039
Fine, give me a day and I'll make that happen.
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.359
Yeah, and look, let's be clear.
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:43.319
This is not free software, this is free trial software, and then you have to pay.
00:30:43.399 --> 00:30:47.000
I I'd forget, was it$150 a year?
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.519
It w it works out to I don't know, what's it 19 bucks a month or something like that?
00:30:52.759 --> 00:31:01.879
Wow, okay, and and look, I mean, anybody that complains about paying for software like it's not even that much, I think it's more like 15 or something.
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:08.279
Honestly, anyways, good luck, because this this is a very simple transaction.
00:31:08.439 --> 00:31:10.039
If this is useful, pay for it.
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.719
You have seven days to use it.
00:31:12.199 --> 00:31:13.799
If you don't like it, then great.
00:31:13.879 --> 00:31:15.319
It it's not for you.
00:31:15.639 --> 00:31:21.000
But equally, you gotta like bring's having sleepless nights now.
00:31:21.239 --> 00:31:28.039
He is one 100%, all of the money that goes into this goes into paying for Brian to sleep.
00:31:28.199 --> 00:31:31.079
Nothing else, nothing more, nothing less.
00:31:31.239 --> 00:31:34.439
So, you know, this is a and and like I say, it's not easy.
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:54.599
I've been involved in a number of AI coded projects, and like I say, one of my biggest clients writes software that sells for millions and millions of dollars a C, but they've started using AI to do all of the coding, and they've changed the way that their engineers work so that they can interact much better with the AI.
00:31:54.919 --> 00:31:56.119
AI slop.
00:31:56.679 --> 00:31:59.959
Well, look, there is AI slop, but you know what?
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.879
There is also just slop too.
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:11.079
Like, yes, it is easy to create AI slop, it's harder to create something good with AI, but it is possible.
00:32:11.239 --> 00:32:23.559
And like I'm you know, I I've sort of struggled a bit with this because we've created a lot of promotional material, and I had to use AI to make it, and I got called, you know, the worst things.
00:32:23.639 --> 00:32:29.559
In fact, I do believe at one point someone threatened my wife over this, and it was insane, right?
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.599
I'm like, I was as they do on the internet, yeah.
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.239
Like like they did the first time I used Adobe Illustrator instead of Coral Draw, right?
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:42.279
So, like honestly, the the hatred for AI is in there.
00:32:42.439 --> 00:32:46.039
Do I like AI generated graphics?
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:47.239
Not really.
00:32:47.479 --> 00:32:51.399
Do I see you don't you don't use them for all of our graphics?
00:32:51.639 --> 00:32:53.159
No, I don't use any.
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:57.159
Um, do I see a use for them for like rapid prototyping?
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:02.359
Yes, and do I see a use for them for one man bands like you, Bri?
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.959
Because uh, you know, full disclosure, I have given Brian zero assistance with pedal spice.
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.759
Not that he uh, you know, not that I refused it and and not that there was an issue.
00:33:12.919 --> 00:33:16.279
This is his baby, and he's gone off and he's created it.
00:33:16.439 --> 00:33:19.879
And quite frankly, I'm quite proud to see how it ended up looking.
00:33:19.959 --> 00:33:26.039
That and the pedal game, pedal biz, like Brian is not known for his visual finesse.
00:33:26.439 --> 00:33:32.439
So the fact that he actually came out with these reasonable looking things on his, I was like, yeah, this is this is growth.
00:33:32.679 --> 00:33:36.839
However, this is not AI slop, this is hard, hard graft.
00:33:37.719 --> 00:33:42.199
There are other things that should be looked at with the AI slop bucket.
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.879
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think it's brilliant what you've done, Bright.
00:33:45.959 --> 00:33:47.719
I take my hat off to you.
00:33:47.879 --> 00:33:52.439
Um I I is it something I'm gonna use daily?
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:53.159
No.
00:33:53.639 --> 00:33:56.759
Is it something I'm gonna use every time I come up with a new pedal?
00:33:56.919 --> 00:33:57.399
Yes.
00:33:57.639 --> 00:34:03.719
It's an incredibly useful tool for a DIY pedal builder or small, i.e.
00:34:03.959 --> 00:34:05.639
me, pedal manufacturer.
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.639
So I think you you deserve a massive bit of kudos for it.
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.440
Well, I mean, and again, it's not it's not really intended for everyone that would use LT Spice.
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:21.239
I mean, I I do have another large pedal company that's already contacted me about using it within their organization, which I think is pretty cool.
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:22.360
Yeah, that's very cool.
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.519
And and then, you know, to be tailored towards everything they do because everyone kind of circuits a lot of it.
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.480
I can't say who it is yet, but it's a it's a well-known one.
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.800
Um but yeah, I mean it's the whole thing, like this is what I've always wanted.
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.679
Yeah, so I I think it's it's very, very cool.
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:54.519
It but uh going back to what I was saying, when you started saying, you know, LT Spice comes with more than you need, I started to think, yeah, like you probably hardly ever need to use a like a thermistor in a pedal, and like LT Spice will have the schematic of that.
00:34:54.759 --> 00:35:04.599
And then I thought maybe what we need is a pedal that increases the gain the more it heats up because you're playing so many notes.
00:35:04.839 --> 00:35:08.039
So I think I may need you to bring that thermista in.
00:35:08.359 --> 00:35:14.839
We call that germanium, yeah, we call that tube technology from the 1950s.
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:16.440
So no, it's brilliant, man.
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.239
That's uh that's a good project, that's really well executed.
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.920
Uh and look, I I hope it brings you a lot of success.
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:31.319
Uh, but more importantly, I hope it brings me a lot of success because it is not hard to run a pedal company, it seems.
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.759
It's hard to make a lot of money out of a pedal company, though.
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.799
It's it's easy to start a pedal company, it's hard to profit with a pedal company, dude.
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:44.839
I mean, we're we're close to break even, but we're still a way off.
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.440
Uh probably gonna run a little Black Friday sale, probably gonna run a little Christmas sale, I think.
00:35:50.599 --> 00:36:05.000
Uh, you know, so if you are listening and you've been thinking about buying a purple ohm fuzz from Oliver FX, then absolutely um you will get a discount of those times of year, unless I forget, which is 50% likely, let's face it.
00:36:05.319 --> 00:36:08.119
Um forget to um a second.
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:09.960
Wrong pipe.
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:11.319
Wow, sorry about that.
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:14.440
Don't forget to put the link in the description as well.
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.519
Uh well, pedal space too, but yeah, yeah.
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:21.400
You know, I will do.
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:26.440
Um, but yes, um, I wrote a special little message for you inside yours, Bri.
00:36:26.759 --> 00:36:28.839
You're gonna have to open yours up to see what I wrote.
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:29.559
Oh, really?
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:30.119
Oh, yeah.
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.039
I it's gonna be full of dung.
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:33.079
Like, ha ha.
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.639
No, I wrote a little message for you, Bri.
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:40.759
And because it's you, I sent you twice as many pics as I send anyone else.
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:41.719
So you're getting two.
00:36:42.359 --> 00:36:43.079
Two, huh?
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:43.639
Yeah.
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:51.719
I did think about putting some food stuff in there, and I thought, no, after Amanda's uh experiences, I I probably won't.
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:53.639
Um, but that should be with you soon.
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:54.920
So, what else has been going on?
00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:00.759
Oh, Keeney just released a Germanium boost, um, which I think sold out the minute he announced it.
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.599
So uh that's nice.
00:37:02.759 --> 00:37:05.319
Um boost, a germanium katana, huh?
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.039
He's had the katana circuits around a while.
00:37:08.279 --> 00:37:10.759
Yeah, so it's a classic, right?
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:15.079
Um, I've never tried one, but uh yeah, I I quite cool.
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.519
Um I think there I thought the originals were JFATs, and they don't make like germanium JFAT.
00:37:20.759 --> 00:37:27.559
So um I could be wrong, but I thought they were I'm more likely to be wrong than you bright because I get everything wrong, it seems.
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:32.759
Um, I did not realize that Stu Mac actually stood for something, by the way.
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:39.400
Like it's clearly like when you know that it stands for something, it's clearly just like I'm gonna guess Stuart McDonald.
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:41.639
Something along those lines, yes.
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:45.719
Uh it might be McCarthy, but it might be McDonald, it's probably McDonald.
00:37:45.799 --> 00:37:49.960
Um is so what what is do you know what the name is?
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:55.799
Uh no, somebody uh on my Facebook feed went to the factory and went, I've made a pilgrimage.
00:37:55.880 --> 00:38:00.839
I think it was uh uh Brett, and he said, I've made a pilgrimage, and it was like Stuart McDonald.
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:01.880
I was like, Who's that?
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.440
Oh Stu Mac, I get it.
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:05.559
Stuart McDonald.
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:06.119
I was right.
00:38:06.279 --> 00:38:06.759
There you go.
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:07.400
There you go.
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.199
Yeah, Scottish name, if ever I heard two.
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.000
Um Love their burgers.
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:15.239
Well, Big Macs.
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:16.279
McDonald's.
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.559
Yeah, is that not as that Stu Mac not part of McDonald's?
00:38:19.799 --> 00:38:20.679
I assume it is.
00:38:20.839 --> 00:38:23.000
Everything in America is part of McDonald's, right?
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.159
That's what we're led to believe in Europe.
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.400
Right, brothers, no.
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:42.839
Um but the reason I talk about Stu Mac is a friend of yours actually has teamed up with them to come out with his own uh boost pedal kit, the um uh which is based on a range master, which is uh Scotty Hill of Skid Row.
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:44.839
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.880
He's been yeah, he's he's been working on circuits for a while.
00:38:48.279 --> 00:38:53.719
Um, and that's how I got connected to him because he's a DIYer, and yeah, I didn't know that, you know.
00:38:53.960 --> 00:39:01.000
So of course I said why don't why don't I send you everything I have and then I'll come over to your house and we'll hang out and be friends.
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:02.920
Yes, you know, best friends.
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:04.920
You'd like to see my bike.
00:39:06.359 --> 00:39:06.759
Mrs.
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.079
Hill, can Scotty come out to play, please?
00:39:09.319 --> 00:39:11.239
I bought I bought sandwiches, yeah.
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:12.519
Exactly.
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:21.880
I I I would imagine though, that like meeting someone like that for the first time and you being you is kind of like a boyhood play date.
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.679
It is kind of like look at all these toys I've bought.
00:39:24.839 --> 00:39:29.880
I've bought my toys too, and you just spread them all out on the floor and start plugging them in.
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.199
I did that once with this guy from McFly.
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.639
And then when I walked out of there, somehow I was 14 pedals lighter and they never came back.
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:41.719
They changed their number at the second second you walked out the door, right?
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:42.920
Unreal.
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:46.599
Oh, but yeah, like I think we should get Scotty on the show if we can.
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:47.079
That would be a good one.
00:39:47.319 --> 00:39:48.199
Yeah, I would love to.
00:39:48.279 --> 00:39:48.599
I don't know.
00:39:48.839 --> 00:39:49.559
You should reach out to you.
00:39:50.279 --> 00:39:52.199
He is such an awesome dude.
00:39:52.359 --> 00:39:56.279
We talk about people that are just amazing in the music industry, to you know, to me.
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.239
Scotty's one of super, super good dude.
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:02.039
Definitely.
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:18.119
I like when we were putting together the the roast of Brian Wompler video, his video like it was just so natural, stood out, made me absolutely sometimes have to kick myself and think, man, so many famous people were in that.
00:40:18.279 --> 00:40:26.839
Like we had Steve Vice, Scottie Hill, we had Vince Gill in there, uh, and me pretending to be Bob Ross.
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:28.759
Absolute classic.
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.639
Um, yeah, really, really good stuff, man.
00:40:31.799 --> 00:40:37.880
So yeah, we need to get him on, but it's a uh it looks like it's a multi-mode range master uh kit.
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:47.239
So and it looked like it was using uh an IC, which I'm guessing the original range uh uh master was transistor based.
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:48.679
So yeah, it should be.
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:50.920
I uh I have not looked at the schematic yet.
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:59.639
So I don't know what the IC is for, whether it's just a controller or something, but it definitely I saw something black with legs and it wasn't a spider this time.
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:05.400
Well, if it had legs on it and it looked somewhat like a spider, then it must have been an IC.
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:06.279
Yeah.
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:11.159
But I'm trying to find um I'm trying to find the schematic for it.
00:41:11.319 --> 00:41:12.119
I'm not seeing it.
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:14.199
Oh, that's because I'm on primer guitar and not.
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:14.599
Yeah.
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.079
Oh, well, then you won't see anything through the adverts.
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:17.480
Yeah, yeah.
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:19.799
You're gonna need to like push them aside.
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:24.759
Oh, we should mention Blake isn't with us this week because he's in a meeting.
00:41:27.319 --> 00:41:29.559
We forgot that bit right up front, Bri.
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:30.679
Oh, yeah.
00:41:30.759 --> 00:41:33.159
So well, I did say there's just the two of us, and he said, don't sing.
00:41:33.319 --> 00:41:34.199
So I said I'm not singing.
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.960
But we didn't say he's busy making string.
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:42.519
So Bri thought, wow, they're not giving Blake a chance to talk at all this week.
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.679
I do notice when I'm over caffeinated, I do tend to hog the mic.
00:41:48.839 --> 00:41:49.639
Uh Mrs.
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.679
Oliver points this out to me, so apologies, listeners.
00:41:54.359 --> 00:41:56.359
Sometimes I get excited to see Bri.
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:57.079
What can I say?
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:57.960
You would too.
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:02.359
He's such a handsome chap with his beard.
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:02.839
You are.
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:03.319
Aren't I?
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:05.319
My long beard, yeah, that's what I have.
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:05.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.119
Trying to throw them off the scent, Bri.
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.799
Uh I don't think it's working.
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.559
Well, now you got me looking for this stinking schematic here.
00:42:15.799 --> 00:42:18.359
Well, Rangemaster schematic's dirt simple.
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:23.880
It's literally like I but you I'm so perplexed that you mentioned it has an IC though.
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.480
Now I I am Well, if you click on the link to StuMac.
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:30.519
Yes.
00:42:30.759 --> 00:42:34.279
Uh well, in fact, there's a picture in the um there is a picture.
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:35.960
Yeah, it's definitely got an IC.
00:42:36.279 --> 00:42:40.279
Shall I enhance it using computer technology and tell you what it is?
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:41.239
Hold on.
00:42:42.279 --> 00:42:43.559
Hold on, hold on.
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:44.199
Here we go.
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:45.799
Where do you see a schematic at?
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.559
I do not see a schematic on this.
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:48.759
I can't see.
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.199
I mean, I see the circuit board, but I don't see anything else besides that.
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.759
I mean if you're scrolling through the case, you should see a populated circuit board.
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:02.119
Oh, oh, uh maybe um I don't know.
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.079
Oh I see you looking at the parse list, right?
00:43:05.319 --> 00:43:05.639
Yeah.
00:43:06.359 --> 00:43:10.039
Okay, so the I see I see a transistor, right?
00:43:11.799 --> 00:43:13.239
I do see an IC.
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:14.599
Okay, I found it.
00:43:15.319 --> 00:43:17.400
I found it on the uh on the site.
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.279
I've got the schematic insight, Bri.
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:21.559
You do?
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:23.480
Yeah, well, kind of.
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:24.759
Kind of.
00:43:25.319 --> 00:43:29.000
I've got a bit of the schematic, because I only show a bit of it.
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.839
Uh but it should have a full parts list here.
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:36.440
So um is Scotty here.
00:43:36.759 --> 00:43:37.480
Oh, wait a minute.
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:38.519
You know what that is?
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.199
That is that's a charge pump.
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:44.119
El Charge O Pumpus.
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:45.400
I think it's a charge.
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.319
I'm trying to read the the numbers on the circuit board.
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.759
I think that's a charge pump, not an actual IC, not an like an op amp.
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:51.239
Right.
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.880
Which means that which means that it's the range master.
00:43:54.359 --> 00:43:55.079
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:56.839
Lots more voltage going on.
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:57.880
Yeah.
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:59.960
Uh let's see what it says.
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:00.839
It says Brian.
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:02.920
It could be inverting the voltage.
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:04.839
There's that's different things you can do too.
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:05.400
But yeah.
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:11.559
Although it does definitely say compatible with a nine volt battery or nine volt DC adapter.
00:44:11.799 --> 00:44:18.759
So it's probably invert it's probably inverting it so it makes it into more compatible with a typical power supply.
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:25.880
Yeah, but what I'm saying is it doesn't say 9 to 18 volts, which if it didn't have a charge pump, it would have.
00:44:26.359 --> 00:44:28.359
It could, yeah, not absolutely.
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:48.039
Not absolutely, but sometimes companies don't do that just because like if you use 15 volt uh parts because they're smaller, yeah, yeah, then um, you know, you can cost even if you use like 22 or 25 volt parts, then um, you know, I could just it's so close to the edge, you don't want to take that chance.
00:44:48.279 --> 00:44:50.599
Yeah, you know, yeah, I like it.
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.559
So uh you might have to buy one of these kits, Bri.
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:55.719
Yeah, absolutely.
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:58.279
Uh give it a little run through here.
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:06.440
I am thinking that my next pedal will be a boost, but I'm thinking of doing two boosts in one, like two flavors in one, so it's a little bit unique.
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:12.119
Um my only worry is that boost pedals aren't the world's biggest sellers.
00:45:12.759 --> 00:45:18.679
Um you know, I think about what wise uncle Brian told me once, which is only make overdrives.
00:45:19.319 --> 00:45:20.119
Basically.
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:29.559
I mean it's um that that's where the biggest majority of your sales are going to come from, is from a pedal company, is is dirt pedals.
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:42.199
Fuzz, it basically goes and this changes for some companies, but usually overdrive and distortion are kind of one and two, and and then fuzz, and then then everything else.
00:45:42.279 --> 00:45:43.400
Yeah, except for us.
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.039
A compressor is one of our most popular pedals.
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:47.639
So yes, but what a compressor, Brian.
00:45:47.799 --> 00:45:48.679
So what the hell do I know?
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:49.880
Ignore me.
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.039
Uh I gotta mention this as well.
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.239
Uh uh, a friend of the show, I guess, but definitely a friend of Wampla, a guy called Sheldon Enns.
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:04.359
Yeah, um he has just made his thousandth true north tweed drive pedal.
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:10.279
And I remember when he started, and like he's on 1000 now, and I'm thinking that is inspirational.
00:46:10.359 --> 00:46:18.039
So, Sheldon, yeah, you are an inspiration to us other smaller builders who would like to see a hundred, let alone a thousand sales.
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:18.920
So well done.
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:20.759
Uh yeah, no, that is awesome.
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:25.480
Uh, Gibson have just released a really nice new finish with some new guitars, Bri.
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.960
It's called Ghostburst.
00:46:28.359 --> 00:46:36.839
I could have thought of some other names that that are not suitable for air, but I kind of like this finish in a way.
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.079
It it looks like a black and white image, kind of.
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:41.319
It's hard, it seems like it's something hard to photograph.
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:41.880
You know what I mean?
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:51.799
Yeah, uh, but it's it kind of I mean it it looks as if someone started to spray it white and went, no, I'm I'm not gonna do that, and just left it around the edge.
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:56.839
So it's like gr graduated white, but it they actually look really nice, Brian.
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:01.559
That Les Paul that says Brian Wampler's country bebop band all over.
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.920
You know, I'm into I'm into explores, man.
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:07.400
Yeah, I'm into explore, yeah.
00:47:07.799 --> 00:47:11.239
Vasco da Gama, Christopher Columbus, that's oh the 335.
00:47:11.319 --> 00:47:13.239
Hell, what the 335 is perfect too.
00:47:13.319 --> 00:47:13.639
That's nice.
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:19.159
Um, I think I like the explore better so and a 335 better.
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:20.359
Here's a bit of news.
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:25.559
Have you heard about uh PRS's new range of heavy metal guitars they're coming out with?
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:27.000
I have not.
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:28.599
I forget what they're called.
00:47:28.759 --> 00:47:31.960
Um the superstat?
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:34.119
No, no.
00:47:34.759 --> 00:47:38.199
There is there is the greatest metal guitar.
00:47:38.359 --> 00:47:42.359
Uh they've teased something, and I forget what it's called.
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:49.000
Uh, so this is the world's least useful bit of information on a podcast.
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:50.440
Yeah, that's fantastic.
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.279
I also may have dreamt it, so it gets worse.
00:47:54.359 --> 00:47:58.920
Uh um am I right?
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.599
My band should stop giving me songs with different tunings.
00:48:02.839 --> 00:48:04.199
Like, we're now gonna do it.
00:48:04.759 --> 00:48:06.279
You need a you need a drop pedal.
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:11.960
I've I've got a whammy pedal, all right, but I'm taking my down tune telecaster with me.
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:20.759
I also need to use uh a capo to play the killers, and now they want me to learn everlong, which is a drop D.
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:29.239
And I'm like, if you mofos give me one more tuning alteration for any songs, I'm quitting the band.
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:30.519
I didn't say that bit.
00:48:30.839 --> 00:48:32.920
And I'm taking my PA with me, right?
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:36.519
Oh, dude, oh dude, my drummer has got the greatest PA.
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:48.519
We we've nicknamed him R2 D2 because it it's a cabinet on wheels with like a 20-inch touch screen at the top that runs all the mixing software for his mixer.
00:48:48.759 --> 00:49:04.519
Like he knows what he's doing, and the the beauty is they don't really know what I do for a living, and they don't know how involved I am with guitar, but they know I'm sort of something to so I play dumb to all of this, and it's great because they don't expect me to fix anything, but I'm also learning quite a lot.
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:06.039
They know what they're doing.
00:49:06.279 --> 00:49:07.480
That's awesome.
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:14.440
So uh I think we will paint him to look like R2G2 anyway.
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:18.679
Uh our time has come to an end, I think, Brian for this week.
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:21.159
I think we've we've covered everything, right?
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.679
That's all I can think of.
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:23.159
Yeah.
00:49:23.319 --> 00:49:24.920
Oh, it's prime day today.
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:26.839
Go and buy a guitar that's cheap.
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:27.880
Oh, I missed it.
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:29.480
I bought three way huge pedals.
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:29.799
Totally.
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:30.440
Oh, yeah.
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:32.039
What was that all about?
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:33.239
Which ones did you buy?
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:42.440
Well, I started out with the red llama because I was doing some digging on the 4049 circuit, which is the red llama is, and then that led me down this rabbit hole, right?
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:43.159
Like it always does.
00:49:43.319 --> 00:49:46.839
I'm like, oh, I don't have this one from Way Huge either, or this one.
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.039
So I went on a reverb spree and what did you buy?
00:49:50.279 --> 00:49:57.719
Pulled out the company card and just put them all on that, but yeah, I can't pull that trick off because I've got the reverse situation.
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:05.159
I've been sent the Sin20 IR, and I know that if I say I want it, there'll be a bill.
00:50:05.319 --> 00:50:08.279
But the problem is, boy, I want it.
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:09.400
I want it badly.
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:11.960
The trick is to borrow it forever.
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:13.239
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna try.
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:14.440
That's what I'm gonna try.
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:18.599
Um so uh so which other way huge pedals you get?
00:50:18.759 --> 00:50:19.880
Swollen pickle, surely.
00:50:20.839 --> 00:50:23.960
No, I didn't get the swollen pickle because that's that's big muff based, right?
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:24.920
Uh hang on, hang on.
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:26.519
You don't need one of those.
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.199
Don't go anywhere.
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:30.839
Let me see.
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:31.319
Let me see.
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:32.839
Uh, strapped to my chair.
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:37.639
I have the way huge fat sandwich.
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:38.679
Oh I've not heard of that.
00:50:38.839 --> 00:50:39.319
Red llama.
00:50:39.799 --> 00:50:41.319
Yes, a cool it's a cool circuit.
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.639
Uh the red llama and the super lead.
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:44.679
Oh, nice.
00:50:44.759 --> 00:50:46.920
So, what's the fat sandwich based on?
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.039
Oh, you are gonna ask me.
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:51.239
Uh just did.
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.759
Way huge fat sandwich.
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.400
Is it overdriver distortion, is it?
00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.559
Oh, yeah, it's an overdriver distortion type thing.
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.159
So here's a perfect example of how Gemini pisses me off.
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.239
Uh Way Huge has never publicly released a fat sandwich schematic.
00:51:09.319 --> 00:51:10.039
Yeah, no shit.
00:51:10.279 --> 00:51:10.440
I know.
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:11.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:21.319
Anyways, so let me find the schematic real quick because this is important stuff that everyone needs to know because it's a really cool circuit.
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:25.639
Heavy duty multi-stage harmonic saturator.
00:51:26.839 --> 00:51:27.719
Go again.
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.000
Um, well, keep in mind, like, there's some markers.
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:32.039
It's a fuzz cannot.
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:32.440
Yeah.
00:51:32.839 --> 00:51:36.199
Oh, wait, this this schematic is like three pixels by four pixels.
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:37.639
That is not gonna work.
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:38.519
AI.
00:51:39.319 --> 00:51:40.679
Uh, there's one.
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:41.719
Okay.
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.000
So it look that's a swollen pickle.
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:45.400
Never mind.
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:46.759
It looks like a big muff.
00:51:46.839 --> 00:51:47.960
That's not what I bought.
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:51.719
It has like a president and resonance control on it.
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:53.159
Interesting.
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:54.440
Let's see.
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:58.839
It is like is it like a pork loin?
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.440
I mean, this is just food now at this stage.
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.599
Well, so Oh, I can't log in on this computer.
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.880
I so I'm on this forum and I can see the schematic.
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:18.759
It's a little bitty, and but I can't get to it because I had to be logged in and I don't remember my login.
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:33.000
Here, okay, so we have looks like two transistors into an op amp, into a funky big muff style stage, into a half a baxendal, into a 4049.
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.480
So yeah, I love that.
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:36.119
That's crazy.
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.199
That's not that that's not like anything else.
00:52:38.279 --> 00:52:38.679
I love that.
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:46.279
No, I mean, so what what I'm reading about this is it it's a discontinued model that actually is quite sought after.
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:49.719
So I think you've gone and bought something pretty cool there, my friend.
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:56.920
Um now you need to reverse engineer it and we can make our own, but we'll change the name.
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.759
We'll call it the Slim Jim.
00:53:00.839 --> 00:53:01.960
Oh no, that's already been done.
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:03.319
Slim the Slim Jim.
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.079
I need to do is bite into it.
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.639
Um yeah, I don't know about that.
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.799
I mean, we're just there's a lot of things to depend on to make a pedal, you know.
00:53:12.279 --> 00:53:15.400
But I think that's yes.
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.079
I think the thing that really interests me is just the fact that it's not like anything else.
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:20.119
It's a unique circuit.
00:53:20.279 --> 00:53:20.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:20.759 --> 00:53:21.239
No, I like it.
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:25.319
And um, you know, to me, that's what if I see something like that, I'm like, I gotta buy it.
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:26.199
Gotta buy that one.
00:53:26.359 --> 00:53:28.359
Yeah, I don't need another tube screen.
00:53:28.839 --> 00:53:41.159
The plan with Oliver FX was always release kind of three pedals that would be a sort of staple of a Gilmore-esque pedal board, because that's you know, that's who I am.
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:50.519
But then if I can establish some credibility with my first three pedals, then it's time to break out the wacky tobacky and start coming up with some new ideas.
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:51.319
Right.
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:56.359
And and and I had one on this show: the Thermista controlled gain pedal.
00:53:56.519 --> 00:54:00.359
The harder you chug, the more it lets the tone flow.
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.039
You mock me, but in a year, everyone's gonna have one.
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:05.719
It's a good catchphrase.
00:54:05.799 --> 00:54:07.719
The harder you tug, no, it's not a good thing.
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.159
Not tug, no, Bri, that's a very different product.
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:15.400
That's the harder you chug, the more the tone flows.
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:16.599
Oh, never mind.
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:18.039
That was that was not what I thought you said.
00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:18.519
Yeah, okay.
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:20.440
I'm not interested then.
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:21.000
Never mind.
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:21.639
All right.
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:35.159
Well, speaking of uh tugging, no, chugging, I think I should say a huge thank you uh to all our um executive producers, every single one of them.
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:42.519
Sorry, I just got just saying that I got an email from a mutual colleague telling me that we're selling a bunch of a particular two pedals on reverb.
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:43.799
I was like, that's nice.
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:47.639
Um buy them now if you can get them.
00:54:47.799 --> 00:54:49.719
Um golden jubilees.
00:54:49.880 --> 00:55:08.920
Uh, Bill Bays, Andrew Adkins, David Tyndall, Dave Trombetti, Eric Wilson, Vida Frostad, Michael Freer, Sean Arbo of Gun Street Wiring, Rick Calhoun of Honey Picks, Patrice Fournay's Dylan Talks Tone, Missouri Electrical Box Company, Kevin Harrington, Berry from The Grez Guitars.
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:10.279
The Grez Guitars.
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.639
Tom Kelly, Jake Young of Man the Helm Podcast.
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:20.759
Actually, very quickly, Man the Helm Podcast, his other podcast, which he does with his sister, the paranoia principal.
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:21.960
I highly recommend it.
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:22.599
It's about weird.
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:23.400
I didn't know it.
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.079
I didn't know he had a secondary podcast.
00:55:25.319 --> 00:55:25.559
Yeah.
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:28.039
Well, this might now be the primary podcast.
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:29.079
It's that good.
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.920
Um, yeah, no, definitely check that out.
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:49.159
Uh, my good friends, Pigsy and John O'Neill, Robert Carr, Hunter Hudson, Rob Stokes, Nick Spain o Sasha, Jay Stratton, Harry Post, Harvey Pedles, Allison, Carroll, Bum Laser, Anthony Stevens, Atta Plays Guitar, Philip Carter of the 40 Watt Podcast.
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.159
It's the most English I could say that for you, Philip.
00:55:51.239 --> 00:56:00.599
Christopher Logan, Jason Engelhart, Dylan Lewis of Leeward Sound, Josh, James Thompson, Codden, Little John Machete of Odin, Derek Lyons, Darth Bagel.
00:56:01.319 --> 00:56:03.559
Wait, oh, I did say Bum laser.
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:03.960
Did I?
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:04.440
You did.
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:05.400
You just went through it quick.
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:06.199
You said Bum Laser.
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:07.799
I was scared for a minute.
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.199
I was like, Bum laser better not have left us.
00:56:10.759 --> 00:56:26.440
Derek Lyons, Darth Bagel, Dustin Romero, Wizard of Woz, Crappy Tom, Bud Coles, pharmaceutically enhanced ponytail, DJ Farnes, Kyle Viana, Robert Hahn, John Hill, Nick Cole, Kyle Ray, Your Face.
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:28.440
We had such a nice run there.
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.759
And then it gets to Dave, Evangelista of the Guitar Dads podcast.
00:56:32.839 --> 00:56:33.960
You break my run, man.
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:40.359
Roxy Gwyn, Derek Howe, Churchill from Cam Girls Plus, Ross Edwards, and William Price.
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:41.000
Thank you all.
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:42.599
You are wonderful people.
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:44.359
All right.
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:45.639
We'll talk to you next week.
00:56:45.799 --> 00:56:46.440
See you later.
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:47.159
Bye.
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:49.319
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