Chasing Thoughts | S02 E23: Unplugging and Unwinding: Rest, Breath, and Mindful Limits

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Welcome to the Chasing Thoughts podcast.
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Chasing Thoughts was founded by strangers, two life coaches who met on TikTok and shared
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the desire to create a different kind of life coaching podcast.
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Instead of talking about how to do it right, the Chasing Thoughts podcast explores embracing
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our true essence to find a deeper sense of purpose and fulfillment.
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Life coaches Keith and Mindy take a unique approach that transcends popular notions of
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perpetual happiness and striving relentlessly to become one's ideal self.
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Listen in as Mindy, Keith and their guests take a deep dive into their own minds and
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souls to investigate the beauty of imperfection, challenge their beliefs, and embrace the richness
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of living a truly authentic life.
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Hi, my name is Keith and I'm a strategic interventionist and stoner-spirited life coach.
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Hi, my name is Mindy and I am an authenticity empowerment coach.
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Welcome to Chasing Thoughts.
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Hey everybody, it is Chasing Thoughts season 2, episode 23.
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And Keith and I, we're just talking about how we're both kind of tired and mellow today.
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So if you hear us talking slowly, that's the reason why.
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I'm not sure why.
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Maybe it's just the end of a long week, but I'm like, I could take a nap after this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's the same.
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I don't know if it's like the weather because it got pretty hot here.
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Well, for us, it was like high 80s and stuff.
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And now it's cooled off, but it feels so good.
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I can just lay on my couch with the windows open and just...
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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Just spend the day just laying there feeling the breeze and stuff.
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Yeah.
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I love to just put on light, instrumental or electric, low frequency music.
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Like something just almost in the background and then it's so relaxing.
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The windows open and yeah, I love that.
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Yeah.
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A lot of times too, I'll play the office in the background like that, but like...
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So I can barely hear it and just close my eyes.
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And nine times out of 10, I end up drifting off to like Dwight Shrew.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I do guided meditations or sometimes I do TV, but man, it just feels really good
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to let yourself get into that deep, relaxed state.
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Yeah.
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And between being asleep and awake, I love that state.
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Oh dude.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think last night, around three o'clock, I got up real quick and when I went back in
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bed, I was just like, I am so comfortable.
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I was just looking out my window.
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I didn't have a desire to close my eyes and go right back to sleep, but within like five
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minutes I was out again, but I love those moments where everything is quiet, dark.
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It's just, it's so cool.
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Yeah.
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And I think that kind of rest, I think it's valuable to do that on the weekend.
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I mean, it's, our weekends are so short and I think there's a lot of pressure to be busy
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and catch up on projects or see friends.
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And also it's really important to take some downtime and let your body integrate everything
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that's happened to it.
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Yeah, man.
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I mean, the majority of human history, we lived as hunter-gatherers and on average, they
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worked about four hours a day.
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So I think we even talked about the other day, like the four hour work week, that whole
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thing, you know, and then like the consensus is like, oh, we're all just lazy.
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We got to be working the 40 hours and more and all that.
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Like that's not what we were designed to do.
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Like they would go out, hunt and gather, you know, then come back and it was maintenance
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and socialization and family time and just being community time.
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Yeah, the more time that I spend just sitting around or journaling or, you know, sort of
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integrating, the more addicted I get to it.
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And then when I don't have it, I'm like, ah, what's happening in my life?
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I need that time to sort of filter my thoughts and decide what actions I'm taking forward
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and what's the most important thing.
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And if I just stay busy all the time, it's like I'm not operating from my full self,
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right?
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I'm at like 10% of my capacity.
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Yeah, we're not designed to do that.
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I know.
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Rest is so valuable.
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And community was one of the things, probably the most important thing that kept us alive
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as a species, you know?
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And now we have less and less time with it.
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And because of all the screens, we're less and less present with each other, even when
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we are with each other.
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That's something I highly recommend to people is, you know, with your kids, with your spouse,
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with your friends, turn your phone off and put it away.
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Give that other person your attention because it makes a difference.
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Yeah.
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Dude.
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I mean, we're both like towards that age where we remember the landlines.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like, when we left the house, we left the house, nobody knew where we were.
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Like you can't get in touch with me.
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Nothing.
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I would come home and there'd be like messages like on a board next to the phone, you know,
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something like that, you know?
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But now, like if I leave the house on my phone, I'm like, oh my God, what am I going to miss?
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You know?
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So for 30 something years of my life, I never missed anything.
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But now all of a sudden, like I'm going to miss something major.
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Like if I don't have my phone constantly with me.
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Yeah.
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And I notice it like an addiction type feeling coming up.
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Like I'll plug my phone in on a Saturday and just leave it.
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And then a couple hours later, I'm like, oh my gosh, if I don't check in something, bad's
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going to happen or I don't know about what bad has happened.
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I need to.
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And it's a, like you said, that's a crazy thought.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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But there's an idea that I have to be plugged in all the time or I'm being irresponsible
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or missing out on something.
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Yeah.
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I've even noticed so like, in fact, it was last Friday at pool.
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Um, we're like, everybody's playing, I'm keeping score.
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So I have to like watch like what's going on and everything.
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But everybody else like they'll play, they'll sit down and they open Facebook, which is funny
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too because it's all like older people.
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So they go to Facebook and not like talk or something, you know, but, and they're just
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scrolling and all of a sudden there's one guy starts talking to me about football and
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about how like they're bringing in some type of technology where for the first down, like
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where the, it'll be like a camera mounted will, will tell them where the first down is.
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So instead of those chains, they won't have to use anymore.
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And I, I'm not big into sports, like at all.
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Like I just, I don't know, like if I'm not playing, I don't get any enjoyment out of
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watching it, you know, so I'm like, dude, I don't care, but I don't want to be me.
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So I'm just like, wow, that's crazy.
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Cause this, he's such a great dude, you know, and he's into football and everything, but
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then he goes to scrolling and then two seconds later, he's talking to me about something completely
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different, you know, like, so like, dude, and I looked around and everybody was doing
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the same thing.
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They were all just scrolling through Facebook.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's actually a perfect segue cause we were going to talk about joy.
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I think that a lot of people associate summer with joy.
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It's like old programming from childhood where you're like, oh, it's summertime.
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Even if you work the same schedule.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, okay, let's talk about joy and how do you source joy and how do you cultivate
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it?
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And I think this whole screen thing and phone thing is a huge part of it because overall
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our phones don't bring us a lot of joy and they're not programmed to bring us a lot of
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joy and you have to be super intentional about it.
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If you're going to use it for joy, right?
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Like big boundaries with it.
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And yeah, usually with my husband and I, if we're like, you know, oh, let's spend the
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evening together, we both put away our phones and the screens.
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And then there's like a little minute of sort of like awkward boredom.
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And then we go, oh, let's talk, like then we start talking to each other and looking
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at each other and interacting with each other.
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And it passes.
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But I think that's true for a lot of people is it's almost as if they don't know how to
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be with another human without checking their phone.
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Yeah.
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Especially, especially like a stranger.
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Yeah, because it's too uncomfortable.
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And therefore we're missing out on connection, which we're hardwired for connection to bring
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joy.
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So we're self sabotaging.
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Dude, I saw a comedian, like he was talking about, you know, like in his day when you
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were on a bus, like everything's mindfulness these days, you know, and he goes, well, we
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were on a bus.
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Our entertainment was watching like condensation drip down the window and like move from the
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wind.
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Like that's mindfulness.
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But like we used to do it all the time because there was nothing to distract us.
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So we had to just sit with our own thoughts.
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Yes.
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And now it's like, dude, if you don't have something constantly giving you something
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to think about, geez, their people's heads go like in the garbage can quick.
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Yeah.
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And I was listening to this one guy talk about how he doesn't go on his cell phone or any
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screens in the morning for a couple hours.
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And he said, I want to start my day on the offense.
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And I thought, what an interesting word to use because a lot of the time we are on the
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defense, it's like things are coming to us, right?
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And we're trying to filter it out.
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But like you just said, if you sit long enough, you will think wise thoughts, you will come
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to clarity, you will.
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But if you never give that to yourself, you won't access those states.
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And so it really is offense.
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It's coming out of you.
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It's your play game for life.
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And I think that's key.
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And I've been really wanting to, I mean, I have boundaries with my phone where I have
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long carry the time where I set it aside and I have like my focus set up so different people
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can get through it different times, but I would love to start a morning routine where
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I don't even pick up and look at my phone until I've had breakfast, worked out, taken
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a walk, whatever it is that I need.
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I've heard similar things before and I'm like, all right, I want to try that.
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Because somebody was talking about like the first thing you do in the morning, that's
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what's most important to you.
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And for most of us, I know for me, like I woke up, rolled over, like unplugged my phone
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and then started looking like, what did people comment?
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What did people say?
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You know what I mean?
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Like all that stuff.
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And there's almost like this sense of anxiety.
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Like is it going to be comment or people are going to be saying I'm stupid or whatever?
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You know?
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And so you start off your day in this sense of anxiety based off of other people's opinions
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of something, a video that you put up that you liked.
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You know what I mean?
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That's why you put it up.
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You know?
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So yeah, it's...
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Yeah.
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I think you've been taking a couple minutes in the morning and you wake up instead of
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immediately grabbing your phone, thinking like gratitude thoughts or envisioning the day
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you want to have.
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Just slowing it down a beat, right?
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Remember you to have some of that before you go right to allowing this to program your
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thoughts and feelings.
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Yeah.
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Like remember like you ever see like a baby when they wake up and they stretch and they're
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just like all over the place, you know?
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And it looks so comfortable.
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Like just spending a couple minutes in bed, like feeling that.
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And then at my age, stretching like that creates a lot of noise, you know?
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So like everything is...
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That's the first crack pop.
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Yeah.
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Like all the things like getting back into place and stuff.
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But like just doing that and enjoying comfort, you know?
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Enjoying those little things.
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It's all those little things that become white noise that it's just lost in the background.
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Yeah.
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And that is being mindful or present, right?
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And it's like, oh man, it feels so good in my body when I do this or oh, this tastes so
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good or right.
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So many of these sensations we just completely blot out when they're positive sensations,
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right?
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Oh, what it feels like to hug my husband, what it feels like to pet my cat, right?
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We're surrounded by pleasures and yet not feeling any of them.
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You know, like one of the practices of a Taoist that I follow, he's like from the 16th generation
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of the guy that started Tai Chi in China, the Wudang Mountains.
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He still lives in the same monastery that is like whatever, great, great, 100 times
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removed like grandfather built, you know, years ago.
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And he said the first thing you do is you wake up and you go outside.
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It doesn't matter if it's raining, if it's cold, hot, you just wake up and you go outside
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and you just breathe.
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You just look around and breathe, you know?
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And then he gets into like some stretching, you know, some morning stretches and stuff
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like that.
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But he said, you do that for 10 minutes, start your day out for 10 minutes just being outside
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and breathing.
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And I've tried that, it's just like, my God, dude, like the, the, it just feels so good.
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Yeah.
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It feels so good and it still requires so much discipline not to let the rubber band snap
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back where you go straight to your phone in the morning and then you're on your computer
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all day and then you watch TV tell us time to go to bed.
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And that's life.
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And then you're like, why aren't I feeling fulfilled or happy?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's not a recipe for happiness, right?
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It's just not, you're never going to get that.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think that some of the things like we said, cultivating connection with other people,
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having some kind of morning routine or like living on your terms, right?
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Being mindful.
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And I would also say if you're in relationship with people, which everybody is, you know,
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husband, kids, friends, the idea, have you heard that saying like, would you rather be
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right or would you rather be happy?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I think putting that into play and recognizing that there's a lot of small conflicts in life
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and if you, if you just rather be happy, you don't really have to pay attention to them.
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You don't really need all of your energy.
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And I think practicing that can cultivate more joy in your day to day life because you're
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not setting off spirals, right?
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Or little bombs.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That has helped me and Sandy out so much where, you know, she'll be working, you know,
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because the beginning of the year, she works tons of overtime and gets tired and gets drained
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and she'll be up.
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I think one day she got home at like three in the morning and then they let her sleep
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for a little bit and then she had to be back in at 10.
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And it's one like the legislative session is in.
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She deals with like basically like editing the bills and stuff like that.
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So she comes home, she's wasted, get cranky, you know, hungry, all that stuff.
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And if she would speak to me like in a tone that I was like, you know, what the, I would
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take it personal.
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Be like, what the hell, you don't talk to me like that.
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Like just because you're tired doesn't mean you can take it out on me, you know, which
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is done because I do the same thing.
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If I'm tired or hungry or whatever, you know, I'll snap at her real easy.
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And in my head, I'm like, you idiot, you know, just because you're tired doesn't mean
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you take it out on her.
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You know, I don't say that at all because of course I have the right to do that, you
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know, but I noticed like that.
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Well, that's all about me.
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You know, it's, it's like me taking personally how she's feeling instead of thinking about
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her and being like, she's been working so hard then having to come home and deal with
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me and then like taking care of stuff in the house and stuff, you know, that I, that I
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don't get to or whatever.
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And she has a right to feel that way.
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And when she's, when she snaps at me, it's not because she's pissed off at me.
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It's because she's hurting in a way.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going to go up and give her a hug instead of take it personal.
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Yeah.
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You know, and I even put that out once.
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I did a video on that and some of the comments were like funny because the guy was like, because
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it's funny, like they take it to the extreme, you know what I mean?
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Like, so one of the comments was, um, um, it's more important to be right.
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If someone's going to try to tell me the sky is purple, I'm not going to get out.
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I'm like, dude, who, who's saying that?
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Like, you know what I mean?
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Like who the hell?
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Like yes.
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If somebody tells you that like they own a giraffe, but they only, they actually have
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a Chihuahua, you can say, well, that's not a giraffe.
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Like that, that's cool.
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You know, but we can, we can surpass so much bullshit just by like saying, well, that person's
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in a bad mood.
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You know, that sucks too bad for them, but it's not going to affect my energy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And again, that's hard work to do and you have to be aware of self and be able to recognize
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that you're not your thoughts or your feelings.
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But yeah, I mean, this bag of skin and bones likes to get offended.
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I don't know why, but it doesn't serve me.
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Like, so I have to kind of be bigger than that reaction.
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Yeah.
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And then the best, the greatest thing, because you can, everything like to me, like everything
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comes back to us, you know, like even doing good, it makes us feel good, which is then
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you know, a drive to be good, you know?
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So when Sandy is like struggling with that, and if I can answer her snapping or whatever
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and say, okay, well, she's just hurting for whatever reason, you know?
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So I'm going to answer her snapping with love.
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And so she's like snapping and she doesn't like me right now or whatever.
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And I just come up and give her a big hug and I'm like, like, you know, I'm sorry, your
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day was rough.
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You know, what can I do?
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Whatever.
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Dude, I can ask for anything after that.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, so it comes back to you too.
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You can be selfish about it.
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Be like, yeah, it comes back to you.
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Yeah, and when you're showing up being loving your experiencing love, when you're showing
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up being compassionate, you're the one experienced compassion, right?
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These are good things to feel rather than feeling outraged or victimized or.
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Yeah.
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And it goes to the same thing with happiness.
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Like we're on this search, it seems, for constant happiness.
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And I think it's the marketing, social media, everything is designed to gather to grab our
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attention for this moment so that we can feel happiness.
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But happiness is not a constant state.
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You know, it's an effect.
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It's a byproduct of what we're doing.
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You know, so.
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Like, it's almost like you don't go out and be like, I'm going to be happy today.
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You know, you go out and be like, I'm going to do good for me today.
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I'm going to put in some work and it doesn't matter.
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I'm not going to judge myself for what I don't get done.
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You know what I mean?
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And I'm going to enjoy what I do.
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And if I have scheduled this, but like, I'm like, I don't want to do this.
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I want to do this.
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I'm going to do it.
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Right.
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And then I feel happiness.
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Yeah.
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For me, that, that baseline emotion I want to learn to live in is contentment.
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Yeah.
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And I think there's so many sort of dopamine hacks, right?
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So if you wake up and you really do want to feel happy, well, yeah, go for a walk in
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nature, exercise, eat healthy food, right?
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Like there's so much science behind what will make you feel good.
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It's just actually choosing it, right?
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That is the challenge sometimes.
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But yeah, you can hack your own brain chemicals on a day you're not feeling good, or you can
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sit with it and learn something from those negative feelings.
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Totally okay.
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Whatever you want to do, right?
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Yeah.
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There's times I'll get into like a depressive mode or whatever where a last couple of days,
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but I struggle with it at first, but when I relax into it, just be like, okay, this
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is how I feel.
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Like I feel contentment.
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Yeah.
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So I feel like I'm depressed, but I'm still happy at the same time.
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Yeah.
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It's so weird.
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I know I get that way too sometimes.
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And I actually find that that is like really rich fertile ground for me.
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The states of being, right?
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And so I don't necessarily want to chew them away.
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The depression or the anxiety.
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I want to know I'm okay during it, like you said, but it's serving me in its own way too,
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right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, everything is a spectrum.
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You know what I mean?
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We have the light spectrum and we as humans see the visible light spectrum, even though
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it's a lot bigger than just what we see.
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You know, we have this like the sound waves.
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And do you ever do that thing?
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Like where you listen to things and it said like, it'll be like a button like where this
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sound like people 30 and older can't hear it.
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Oh yeah.
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That's cool.
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Like at a science center or something.
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They have those little exhibits.
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Yeah.
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My daughter found one online once and she was doing it and my two daughters and my niece
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were like, yeah, we hear that.
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I mean, my wife were like, whatever, dude, you're just making this up.
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There is no sound whatsoever.
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So like there's a spectrum of sound that we hear and then as we get older, apparently
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that spectrum gets shorter and shorter and shorter.
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Oh, it's true.
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Yeah.
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There's a spectrum of something that I had a point and my brain just took a laugh because
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I started thinking about the whole spectrum thing.
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But yeah, there's that spectrum of like happiness too.
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You know, and it's not to chase.
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Yeah.
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When do you think that when you think about like the happiest times in your life or chapters
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of life or moment of life, what did they have?
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Like what elements did they have in them?
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The biggest thing is community.
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There were people there that I was close with.
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Yeah.
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You know, that's when I felt the most confident, the most connected and the funniest parts
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are like, because as soon as you said the happiest times, I went right to a time that
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caused a lot of problems for me as well.
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Which is our deployment into Bosnia.
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But looking back on it, I'm able to see it from a different angle where I remember all
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of this stuff that just makes me so happy.
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Like we had to build guard shacks out of sandbags and it's the middle of winter in Eastern
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Europe.
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The sound was not very giving and we had to work so hard for days to build these little
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shacks.
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And one time me and my sergeant were in there and it must have been like three in the morning
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and we're just watching through our night vision and stuff like just scan it.
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And all of a sudden three wild dogs just came like ripping into this little guard hut fighting.
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And here's these two grown dudes.
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My sergeant was a sniper.
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He had gone through sniper school and saw he was badass.
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And we just picked our legs up off the floor.
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We were just like screaming.
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We were like, we had weapons, we got ammo like all over the place and we're just screaming
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as these three dogs are fighting and it lasted about 10 seconds and they were gone.
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And we just looked at each other and we were like, what the hell was that?
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And that was it.
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That was the end of it.
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Like we've never seen these dogs again.
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And just thinking about those moments, the games that we would play with each other,
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the things that we would do to each other, just to mess with each other.
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I look back on that and I miss that camaraderie so bad.
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But I feel so happy that I was once connected like that.
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Yeah.
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I think that's really, people find that really challenging to create as adults in the world.
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I think everybody struggles with that.
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Like unless you happen to be friends with people you went to college with or a family
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or it's very different now that you're not getting married when you're 20 and it's just
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about your family.
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Most people are single into their 30s.
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And so there's a lot more loneliness, I think.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, when I look back at my happy memories, they contain two things that we haven't talked
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about yet.
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One is health.
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Like when my body was feeling great, when I was fit, when I was healthy.
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And then the other one is like being connected to my purpose or feeling aligned or like aligned
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contribution, aligned passion.
485
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,880
Those are my happiest moments when I look back, like when I felt like I was living life
486
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840
the way I'm supposed to or wanted to, right?
487
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,840
I was on the right path.
488
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,280
For me, that's a really satisfying, joyful feeling.
489
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,280
Yeah.
490
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,280
Yeah.
491
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,440
And it's cool too because it's not like we were talking about it's not you going out
492
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,360
like the your focus is not I'm going to go out to be happy.
493
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,840
Your focus is just living in alignment, doing what you should be doing, all that stuff.
494
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,760
And then that happiness comes as a byproduct of that.
495
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,760
Yeah.
496
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Yeah.
497
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:32,360
And I think those are all like, everything we're talking about takes work and dedication.
498
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:39,440
And scrolling Instagram or playing blocks on your phone is the like instant junk food
499
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,200
candy dopamine.
500
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,920
That's not really creating that like deep peace and joy.
501
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080
It's creating that surface level.
502
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,080
I'm relaxing.
503
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,160
I'm happy, you know, but it's really not true.
504
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,160
Yeah.
505
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,160
Yeah.
506
00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,240
I gave a talk once at Central Connecticut State University and there was a girl there
507
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:06,440
that she said that when she's like at a family party or something, she gets overwhelmed with
508
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,440
all the people.
509
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,600
So she has to isolate herself to recharge.
510
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,600
So I was like, all right, cool.
511
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,600
What do you do when you recharge?
512
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,920
She's like, well, I go in my room, I shut the lights off and I scroll on my phone.
513
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,920
I'm like, okay.
514
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,080
And then how long does it take before you feel recharged?
515
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,520
And she goes, I never do.
516
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,800
So when I read this thing, neuroscience were talking about like when we do stuff with our
517
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:36,360
mind that's mindless, you know, just that mindless scrolling binge watching a TV, like
518
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,680
a TV show that we've watched millions of times or whatever, you know, our brain has a default
519
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:49,480
mode that is negative and slightly anxious because it's scanning for threats, you know,
520
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,280
and that's an artifact left over from our time as hunter-gatherers and our brain that
521
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,560
still runs.
522
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:06,200
And so when you're trying to recharge, when you feel like emotionally, you're just completely
523
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,800
emptied from wearing this mask of the person that you feel like you should be, and we go
524
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:17,400
and we do this mindless thing to recharge, we're actually draining more energy out of
525
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920
ourselves.
526
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,160
And that was such an interesting thing to me.
527
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Yeah.
528
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,640
And I think nowadays a lot of people don't even know anything else.
529
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Like if you go like, no, what are your recharge activities?
530
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,720
Because like, what are you talking about?
531
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,840
People don't have hobbies anymore, right?
532
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,280
And that is negatively impacting us as people, as humans, I think.
533
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Yeah.
534
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Yeah, like Wednesday, I was exhausted.
535
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
I put in a lot of work, got a bunch of stuff done.
536
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,320
I was exhausted.
537
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,880
And where I play pool day on Wednesday nights, they have this drop-in eight-ball tournament
538
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,880
on Wednesdays.
539
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,080
Was that a yawn going on?
540
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Yeah, I'm tired today, man.
541
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Yeah.
542
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,800
We're going to, like this episode, we'll have to be calling it like chilling and resting
543
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,800
or something.
544
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,320
Oh, yeah, the yawning episode.
545
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,800
So I was like, I don't know if I'm going to go.
546
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,440
But me and my dad go sometimes.
547
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,400
So I'm like, he's going, all right, I'm going to go.
548
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Because I know I'm going to have fun.
549
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,160
And when I get there, all of a sudden, all that tiredness goes away.
550
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:45,520
And now I'm surrounded by people, and it's all good people for the most part, having
551
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:52,520
fun, laughing, laughing at how bad I'm doing, whatever, but just having that fun.
552
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640
And that produces energy.
553
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Yes.
554
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,640
Yeah.
555
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,640
So like, I'm ready to fall asleep.
556
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Like it's six.
557
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,400
And we start playing pool at seven and we get home at 1030.
558
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,240
And I'm like, all right, I'm still up.
559
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,560
Like, I'm not ready for bed.
560
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,560
Like, you know what I mean?
561
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Like, so I just don't know where I gain this energy.
562
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,720
Yeah.
563
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,720
Yeah.
564
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,200
I remember someone told this great story once to illustrate that point.
565
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,000
And they said, you know, you're thinking about going to work or doing something.
566
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,800
And you just like, oh, I'm so tired.
567
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Oh, I can't make it tonight.
568
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800
You know, I'm supposed to go for drinks with friends.
569
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,640
I'm just too tired.
570
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,080
But then if you imagine that the person you would most love to have dinner with calls
571
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,080
you.
572
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,960
So whether that's Taylor Swift or the Dalai Lama or whoever, and goes, can you have dinner
573
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,120
tonight?
574
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,360
All of a sudden, you're not tired at all anymore.
575
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200
You're like excited.
576
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,200
You're thrilled.
577
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,440
Right.
578
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,840
And so when you think about it like that, you're like, oh, I am a little bit more in
579
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,640
control of my feelings than I think.
580
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Right.
581
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,640
Yeah.
582
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Yeah.
583
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Yeah.
584
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:09,080
It's it's strange like how how we're able to create energy, you know, when we need that
585
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,840
when we're in like a higher vibrational emotion.
586
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,840
Energy can be created.
587
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Yeah.
588
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Yeah.
589
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360
I absolutely believe that.
590
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560
Yeah.
591
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,960
So is there anything this summer that you're particularly excited about that will bring
592
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,640
you joy?
593
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,640
So yes.
594
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,640
All right.
595
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,640
So I've been wanting to do something for a very long time.
596
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,360
In fact, it started this whole journey even into life coaching.
597
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,160
So when I first started using cannabis like in Connecticut before it was legalized recreationally
598
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,080
as well, I had to get a letter from my doctor saying I was being treated for one of the
599
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,240
causes that you in Connecticut you can get.
600
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,400
So I did that, started using it and before my doctor gave me the letter because he was
601
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,480
at the VA, the VA is, you know, more on the federal side.
602
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,440
So they're like, nope, there's absolutely no good that'll come of that.
603
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,760
And he gave me all of this, like these studies that'll show that one of two things will happen.
604
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,160
I'll either smoke and have a psychotic break and have more mental health issues than ever.
605
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Or I'll just basically sit around my house never doing anything, you know, for the rest
606
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920
of my life.
607
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,920
And I know both of those aren't true, especially the first one.
608
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,920
I looked at the study when they described the methodology, it was they looked at inner
609
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,560
city youth that had been arrested for a violent crime.
610
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,200
And then they looked at have they ever been arrested for marijuana possession.
611
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,760
And most of them have.
612
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,760
Right.
613
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,280
So they said, ah, see, if you use marijuana, you'll commit a violent crime.
614
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,280
Right.
615
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,360
But it's correlation, not causation, right?
616
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Yeah.
617
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Like, my God, like who couldn't be arrested?
618
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Like, I even heard like a cop say, like, you know, when they have the quotas for the arrest,
619
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,840
said I can go out to a street corner and arrest like 12 people with marijuana, like right
620
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,560
now, like it's not hard to do, you know.
621
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:30,040
So I started watching Family Guy when I was when I was smoking.
622
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:36,760
And then when I got into the coaching, the way my mind works, like a lot of things that
623
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,960
were being said by like Peter Griffin that were just so stupid in a way can match up
624
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,400
with like the stuff that I was learning.
625
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,680
Like he had one time he had two angels, the angel and the devil on his shoulder told him
626
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,160
to do something and the angel just got fed up, grabbed the devil, Peter and like pulled
627
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,320
out a gun and put it to his put it or put it to real Peters had it was like, do it,
628
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,760
do the right thing, do it, you know, and I'm like, that's what it takes sometimes.
629
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,400
Like this angel just put his boot up our ass and being like, just get this freaking shit
630
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,400
done.
631
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:17,160
So I was like, and then what my background in in church, right?
632
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:25,400
So I started thinking one day and this was a complete cannabis induced thought, but Moses
633
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,280
was in the desert.
634
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,400
He wore a robe and sandals and he communed with the burning bush.
635
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,600
I'm not in a desert, but I spend most my time in my garage.
636
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,600
So and I wear sweatpants and sandals and I smoke a burning bush.
637
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:49,200
So could I be the prophet of Peter Griffin?
638
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:58,360
So I want to write this, this book based off of life lessons learned from Peter Griffin
639
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,200
on how to overcome PTSD.
640
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,560
And that almost like through this way of though, that I actually did have a psychotic break
641
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,640
and now I'm hearing the voice of God specifically through Peter Griffin.
642
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:17,080
So my for my birthday, my parents just got me this new journal.
643
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,240
Oh, so cool.
644
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:20,240
That's cool.
645
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,760
I can't imagine like it's all leather and then look at like the pages.
646
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,400
Oh, yeah, I love cool journals.
647
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,200
And I think that one is so neat because it looks like an old school log book or something.
648
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,240
Yeah, like someone you'd find like on a pirate ship or something.
649
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,000
Yeah, it's so cool.
650
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:44,040
So I'm like, this is going to be that that book that is going to be all of my notes for
651
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,960
this is going to go in here and I'm going to start figuring out how to put this thing
652
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,120
together because I haven't figured out how to like write it yet.
653
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,920
You know, I don't know.
654
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,480
That's like just it's it's like throwing me a curveball because I don't want to just put
655
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,480
like, you know, Peter Peter said this or whatever, you know, you know, I got to figure out like
656
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,600
a good way to write it.
657
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,680
But I'm just going to have fun with it and make it my goal is to make it as stupid and
658
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,800
foolish as I possibly can.
659
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,280
But to actually have, you know, like a legit message in there.
660
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Yeah.
661
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:26,440
And it's fiction, even though it's mainly pulled from your life experience, right?
662
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:34,840
Yeah, yeah, because it's going to be filled with so the stuff in my life, which that that's
663
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:40,960
not going to be the page turner part of this thing, you know, but mixed with actual science
664
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:50,680
from physicists, quantum mechanics, psychology, from some of the more like, I don't know what
665
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:57,720
you call pop psychology, like, like Joe dispensa type stuff, but also from legit psychologists
666
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:04,960
like Victor Frankel, Edith Edgar, Bessel Vander Kolk, and really just kind of put all of that
667
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:12,320
together to take the things that Peter says and then explain them in the scientific light
668
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,440
and how I apply them to my life in a stupid way, you know what I mean?
669
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,160
But it made things better for me.
670
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,160
Yeah.
671
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,160
Yeah.
672
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,080
Do you feel a lot of joy when you're writing?
673
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,080
I get lost.
674
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Yeah.
675
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,080
When I went to school.
676
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Yeah.
677
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:42,320
I went to school for anthropology and my minor was creative writing because I noticed that
678
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,600
academics write for each other.
679
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,560
You know, there's been so many books that like I've tried to read and I'm like, I'm
680
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,360
not smart enough like to read this book.
681
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Like, I'm going to have to look up every other word in a dictionary because it's like 18
682
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,840
syllables and stuff, you know, and I'm just like, no.
683
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:12,480
But there's such cool stuff coming out of the academic world that is not filtering down
684
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,480
to us.
685
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,480
Yeah.
686
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:20,560
You know, like one of the things that there was a dude just on the Joe Rogan podcast,
687
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,080
I'm going to forget his name.
688
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,080
He's an actor.
689
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,640
He was like in the one of the first Iron Man movies.
690
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:37,680
He was a colonel and he was talking about how like science is completely wrong.
691
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,520
You know, so when I hear that, I'm like, all right, here's another idiot that thinks he
692
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,240
knows more than like people that have been studying this stuff for years and years and
693
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,040
years of their lives.
694
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,480
But he's coming up with some pretty weird stuff.
695
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,440
But I don't know how I'm sure it's like with his his fame and his money and stuff.
696
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,920
He's able to use Princeton supercomputers to model stuff.
697
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:12,960
So he rebuilt Saturn on this on this program with with taking out gravity as an element
698
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,960
in the universe.
699
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Wow, that's crazy.
700
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,600
It worked perfectly.
701
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:23,240
He has like 97 patents, came up with a new method of flight.
702
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,600
And I don't I'm just hearing sentences.
703
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,160
So I don't know what I'm talking about.
704
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:35,440
But like that stuff is so engaging to me, you know, and when I and that's the stuff
705
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,440
I like to I like to go.
706
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,160
So like when I'm writing, I just get lost in my head in those words, especially after
707
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:51,200
I smoke like when I smoke, I feel like my mind is like that journal, like this old ancient
708
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:57,120
book that just opens up and the story just comes out of the pages and exit out in front
709
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,120
of me.
710
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,720
And it is the greatest feeling in the world to me.
711
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:03,720
I love that.
712
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:04,720
That is so cool.
713
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:10,680
Yeah, I think everybody needs to find their activities that make them feel that way.
714
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,680
Right.
715
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,200
Lost in the flow sort of blissed out giddy.
716
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,200
Yeah.
717
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Yeah.
718
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Yeah.
719
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,200
This thing.
720
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,200
I'm not going to remember his name either, but there's this documentary called.
721
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,120
I'm not going to remember this dude.
722
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,720
My mind is like, it's a tired, yawning.
723
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:32,720
Yeah.
724
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:33,720
Yeah.
725
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:37,200
The most low key episode.
726
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Damn.
727
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,600
So he was the first Alex Humble.
728
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,080
I think his name is.
729
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:51,880
So he was the first person to climb El Capitan with no ropes.
730
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,400
And he did it like in three hours.
731
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880
This dude is like a climbing savant.
732
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,720
Like, I mean, he does stuff that nobody else would do.
733
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:03,720
And he had a thing.
734
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:09,560
He was saying it's all about that level of focus where you get into a zone where everything
735
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,480
else falls away and only tunnel vision.
736
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,320
You only have the tanks get here.
737
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:24,040
And he said that moment of absolute perfection that lasts for a second.
738
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:30,160
That's what he lives for, you know, and, and for me, like when I look back at my writing,
739
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:36,400
I love printing out the first draft and then ripping it apart with a pen on the paper and
740
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,880
then writing up another one and then ripping out, ripping it apart.
741
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,920
And like that to me, those are my moments of perfection.
742
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,520
When I take something that's bullshit and then turn it into something that when I pick
743
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,840
up a year later and read it, I'm like, I wrote that.
744
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Like I did that.
745
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,880
And I'm like, you know, like that's, that's what I love.
746
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,880
Yeah, that's beautiful.
747
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,880
Yeah.
748
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:08,400
I feel that way sometimes when I'm writing, I can get into that flow space.
749
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:15,080
And then also when I'm doing crafts or artwork or, you know, something like that, actually,
750
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,320
this is really silly, but you know how there's those guys that paint like the little figurines?
751
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,320
Yeah.
752
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,000
We got a Lord of the Rings game that has all sorts of like figurines.
753
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,760
And I thought, you know, I bet I would enjoy painting those because that's the kind of
754
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:37,000
focus where it's like you have to be focused enough to be doing this small artwork so that
755
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,680
your brain is actually resting, right?
756
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,400
Because you're in that like focus flow space.
757
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,200
But there's so many things that, you know, people can do to get to that space, but that
758
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,720
space is known, right?
759
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:55,680
There's research behind your brainwaves when you're in that state and how healing they are
760
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,960
to your body and your nervous system and how imperative they are for learning, like to
761
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,720
learn whatever you had previously taken in the week before.
762
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:14,080
So I think that, yeah, those activities are so key to joy and commitment.
763
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:22,280
And it's so cool too, because when we get into that flow state where when they do brain
764
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,600
scans of people that are in that state, they find that there is a lot of activity going
765
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,800
on in the frontal lobe.
766
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,800
Right.
767
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:36,680
So the frontal lobe is the latest diversion of our brain to evolve, you know, or the
768
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,040
part of our brain to evolve.
769
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,240
So it's the newest part of our brain.
770
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:46,400
When we're doing tasks that are routine, our frontal lobe is like basically shut off.
771
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,360
It's dark, you know, and all of the older parts of our brain are doing it because we
772
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,480
don't need to spend time thinking about, I'm going to do that.
773
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:01,760
Like I don't have to think about making my bed and folding lawn because it's all routine,
774
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,760
you know.
775
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,000
When I'm doing that, a lot of times my thoughts will just kind of go off into something and
776
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,600
of course they always go negative because it's natural for them to do that.
777
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,120
But when you're in that flow state, when you're doing something new, which requires more of
778
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,640
a level of concentration, your frontal lobe lights up.
779
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:28,240
And that's where like I'm trying to learn to live my life from that, that part of my
780
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:29,240
brain.
781
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,240
Yeah.
782
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:37,040
You know, we're experiencing everything as if it's brand new and focusing completely
783
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,160
on things.
784
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:46,040
And it is such an amazing feeling that comes out of that.
785
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,960
You know, I don't even know what emotion to apply to it besides I just feel good.
786
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Yeah.
787
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,960
Yeah.
788
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,960
Yeah.
789
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,640
I totally get that.
790
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,400
I feel good just like complete content, right?
791
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,720
All those things.
792
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:06,720
Yeah.
793
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:12,480
There was a day last week, finished up all the stuff I wanted to do and I spent like
794
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,080
a good portion of my day like in that flow and I was just standing in my kitchen and
795
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,400
looking outside and I was like, that's a cool tree.
796
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,240
That tree got to be like a hundred feet tall and Sandy's like, what are you doing?
797
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:34,320
And I'm like, I don't know, but I can stand here for like another hour and be the happiest
798
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,320
person on the earth.
799
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,560
I just feel so content and good right now.
800
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,560
Yeah.
801
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,720
There's a word that comes out of that.
802
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:44,720
Yeah.
803
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:45,720
Yeah.
804
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:52,360
So what do you think if someone's listening and they're not feeling any of the joy and
805
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,720
contentment and stuff?
806
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:59,680
And we obviously gave a lot of ideas, but like in your opinion, what's the number one
807
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:11,120
thing that shifts towards a more content, happy lifestyle?
808
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,640
The number one thing?
809
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,640
We're up there, right?
810
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Like what are the top things?
811
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,760
Like if somebody could do one thing today to start changing the way they experience the
812
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:26,520
world so they have more joy, what would you say that it's a good tool?
813
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,240
Okay.
814
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:34,480
So and this comes to me from the beautiful cannabis flower.
815
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,160
This like, I was like in a tunnel yesterday with my thoughts and this thought like came
816
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,720
to me and I'm like, ah, it's so cool.
817
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:49,480
So at a certain level, like we've talked about before, everything is a binary choice.
818
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:55,600
So one or zero, it's up or down, left or right, right or wrong, on or off, black or
819
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:01,400
white, you know, like there's all these variations, but at a certain level, we can just look at
820
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,320
the two extreme sides of it.
821
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:13,200
And also with a coin, you have two sides of every coin, yeah, heads and tails, right?
822
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:23,360
So when we're not feeling that our brain, number one is focusing on how bad we're feeling,
823
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,360
which then drives more of our focus to that feeling, which means we're going to feel it
824
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,640
more.
825
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,080
Then our language is going to, I know for me, it goes, why are you feeling like this?
826
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,160
You should know all this stuff.
827
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Why are you feeling anxiety?
828
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,360
Why are you feeling depression?
829
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,000
Like you're supposed to be a life coach.
830
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,840
Like you're supposed to teach people how to deal with this.
831
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,840
You suck.
832
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,840
You have to do it.
833
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,040
You got to disband everything and just like live under your house or something, you know,
834
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,520
all this stuff.
835
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,040
So the language then pushes you further down that way as well.
836
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,360
And again, that's natural.
837
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,920
So when that happens, that means your mind is working exactly the way it's supposed to
838
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,920
work.
839
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,040
It's not a disorder, right?
840
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,360
It's a negativity bias.
841
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,300
So when that's working, your mind is good.
842
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:10,640
It's calling me a piece of shit.
843
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,640
I'm good.
844
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Right?
845
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,640
I'm good.
846
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:24,080
But we have to remember that even in our lives, there's two sides of that coin of who we are.
847
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:33,240
So I'm a guy that, if I let my brain run free range, I'm a guy that got out of the military,
848
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:40,840
worked in a prison for a while, got hurt, retired, gained tons of weight, graduated from
849
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:48,200
school that did nothing, you know, and, and so that whole time, that 20 year period, I'm
850
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,320
calling myself every day worthless, a bum, I'm a coward.
851
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,200
Even when I realized it was PTSD that I was dealing with, like, why did I have PTSD?
852
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,200
It was Bosnia.
853
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,200
It wasn't Iraq, wasn't Afghanistan.
854
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,040
I'm a bitch, you know, all this stuff.
855
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,520
So which is making me feel more and more and more.
856
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:16,920
But even though I am that guy, I am also the guy that at 18 at 210 pounds of pure chub
857
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:23,200
joined the military, had a great reputation in the military.
858
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,680
Towards the end, I, to me, I lost that a little bit when I started having trouble with the
859
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:35,160
PTSD, got out of the military, had a successful career in, in, in the prisons, had to leave
860
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,800
that because I got hurt.
861
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Didn't, I wasn't content to just change state jobs and like count traffic cones for the
862
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,920
rest of my life, you know what I mean?
863
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,960
So went, got my degree.
864
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,000
And now here I am trying to run my business, trying to do things that I'm passionate about
865
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:59,000
because I lived in a way that allows for me to do that right now without having to worry
866
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,560
about our bills paid or, you know, everything is taken care of.
867
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:10,840
So I'm the guy that got back with Sandy after we got divorced, fixed my relationship with
868
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,840
my kids.
869
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,240
So all of that is true at the same time.
870
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:21,000
The guy that gained, you know, 300 pounds, you know, from going knee deep in Doritos every
871
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,160
other day, you know, I'm still this guy.
872
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,160
Yeah.
873
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:31,280
So it's, which one am I going to choose to let my focus go to my focus naturally will
874
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,680
go to the negative side.
875
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:41,240
So I think one of the greatest things that you can do is choose in that moment to remember
876
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,360
good things about yourself.
877
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,360
Yeah.
878
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,360
Yeah.
879
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,680
You know, if we don't start off with loving ourselves and feeling good with ourselves,
880
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:56,600
like my, I think I've said this before, like my church background, like one of my favorite
881
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,040
verses in the Bible now is when they asked you just what's the most important commandment.
882
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,960
He said to love thy neighbor or to love the Lord, thy God, and then to love thy neighbor
883
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,080
as I self.
884
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,920
And if you like look at that verse backwards, if you don't love yourself, you can't love
885
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,880
your neighbor, I mean, because everything is going to be like a threat and like, oh,
886
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,200
what's going on or whatever, you know, and then if you, if you can't love your neighbor,
887
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,760
you can't love God.
888
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:27,200
So hating yourself is natural.
889
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,640
And then we want somebody else to love us.
890
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,360
We want somebody else to give to us what we can't provide for ourselves.
891
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Yeah.
892
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,640
But when we can love ourselves and I'm not talking about like, I am the most handsome
893
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,040
guy in the world.
894
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:45,960
Like, I mean, now if I lived in the land of Oopa Loopa, dude, I am a model in that land,
895
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:51,240
you know, but like, I'm not talking about, but I'm just talking about you like, you know,
896
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,360
I made some bad choices, but I've handled my shit.
897
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,360
Yeah.
898
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Proud of that.
899
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,360
Yeah.
900
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,360
I agree.
901
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,360
100% agree with you that like managing yourself, talk and learning to be kinder to yourself
902
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,520
and to love yourself is absolutely the foundation.
903
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:16,840
And then the second thing I would say is just slow the fuck down, like slow down.
904
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:23,920
You can't find joy and peace in the hustle or like this frenetic energy that a lot of
905
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,920
people live in.
906
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,560
And it's like, if you slow down and start talking kinder to yourself, you're going to
907
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,160
be amazed at the changes in your life.
908
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,680
Just doing those two things, I think, because they're huge.
909
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:38,680
Yeah.
910
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,680
Yeah.
911
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,280
Like I knew a dude that he was like, like big into like the hustle.
912
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:48,680
I'm going to change the world and like work and like crazy and stuff.
913
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,680
And he's big into wolves.
914
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,880
And he's like, I'm going to, I'm the wolf, you know, and I never understood like, why
915
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,120
I'm wanting to be an animal, you know what I mean?
916
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,240
Because like they live outside.
917
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:05,480
I want to be a human being, you know, like a cool couch and a TV.
918
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:11,160
And if I was going to be an animal, I'd want to be a manatee man, like just lasening, grazing
919
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,760
dude, like just floating in the warm waters in Florida, you know, like that's what I want
920
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:16,760
to be.
921
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,960
But like he wants to be a wolf.
922
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,560
But like a lot of times, like with that frenetic energy, you're a chihuahua, you're just this
923
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,360
little thing that's not doing anything and just shaking off.
924
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,360
I got to move.
925
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,360
I got to move.
926
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,360
I got to move.
927
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,360
Like wolves chill out.
928
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:36,680
Like I just saw a video of a coyote and a golf course playing with a golf ball, you
929
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,680
know, like throwing it up in the air in its mouth and then like prancing around like a
930
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,440
dog would, you know, like, and this is just a wild coyote.
931
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,560
And I'm like that seed, like that's the thing.
932
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,080
Like these animals know when to rest.
933
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,080
Yeah.
934
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,080
They know when to work.
935
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,080
They know when to fight.
936
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,080
They know when not to.
937
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Yeah.
938
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,080
Yeah.
939
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Responding appropriately, right?
940
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,080
Yeah.
941
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,400
We're just told it's always like go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, like no.
942
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,400
Yeah.
943
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,400
Yeah.
944
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,880
Well, even though this was been a tired yawning episode, I still think that we came out with
945
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,080
some really good nuggets.
946
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,080
Yeah.
947
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:20,600
Maybe we should have add that into our like, like stack of videos that we do like, like
948
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,960
every once in a while we'll do the ones on the mushrooms.
949
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:23,960
Yeah.
950
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,080
Just do one like low energy and just see where it goes.
951
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Who knows?
952
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,080
Oh, all right.
953
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,160
And that a big yawn and a stretch and goodbye.
954
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Time to take a nap.
955
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,880
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956
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,280
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957
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