Tracy Quinlan: Charting Love With Astrology

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What happens in the sky affects life down here on Earth.
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The Celestial Compass shows you how and guides your way,
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with astrology you can use, from professional astrologer Kathy Beal.
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Every episode features her light-hearted, practical forecasts and navigational tips,
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blended with humor, optimism, and a love of patterns, symbolism,
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and pop culture references. Kathy translates technicalities into concepts that
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apply to real life. You'll learn how the current moment
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ties to where we've been, from the recent past to
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cycles that last happened years ago, and get a look
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at where we're heading. And much more, from special topics
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to special guests. The Celestial Compass. Enlightening, entertaining, and empowering.
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Here's your host, Kathy Beal.
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Greetings Earthlings, this is Kathy Beal welcoming you to Celestial
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Compass reminding you also that my website is empowermentunlimited.net and
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my YouTube channel is Professional Aquarian and we are today
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on the brink of the equinox starting autumn in the
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northern hemisphere and spring in the southern hemisphere the day
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that the Sun moves into the sign of Libra, which
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happens on the 22nd. And one important thing that will
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happen very soon after the Sun makes that shift that
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each of us will notice is the Sun is going
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to make a sequence of connections with all of the
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outer planets that were involved in the rewiring that happened
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in July. We're still kind of getting the hang of
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how different our lives are, how different our realities are.
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The sun is traveling through territory that Venus did in
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early August, so making a lot of changes and updating
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in our relationships and agreements. And then earlier in September,
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Mercury went through the same group of contacts, bringing all
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kinds of information to the fore. I called it a
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wind tunnel. And there's been a lot of news events
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that are just mushrooming and mushrooming and mushrooming of information
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and data and things people are saying and stuff just snowballing.
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So now when we get through the equinox, each of
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us will have the opportunity to assimilate and to make
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personal the changes that we've all been under, the rewiring
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of our connection to spirit and how our minds work
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and how we send information back and forth and our
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relationship to technology and to networks and to our friend groups. Essentially,
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we're in the process right now of basically processing wrapping
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our brains around how different the world is. And then
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the weekend brings another event that is going to be
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another stage of processing all of the rewiring of July.
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The full moon in Aries kind of ignites. Actually, it
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does ignite. Where Neptune was, Neptune will be with it.
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And people could hit A point of being fed up
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and just breaking away from a lot of things. It
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could be very energizing. You might find that Neptune's connection
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to it will soften what might have been otherwise frustrated
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or an angry response on your part. But you will...
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very very likely feel okay now i am moving away
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from some factor in your life some situation and very
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boldly and probably quite suddenly aries doesn't sit around waiting
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for permission it simply acts And around the same time,
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the ruler of Aries, Mars, the action hero of the sky,
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the cosmic first responder, moves into the sign of Leo,
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and that amps the energy. People will have a lot
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more oomph at their disposal, and Mars is going to
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begin his own approach to... contacting everybody that was involved
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in what happened in July that'll come in October and
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then later in October he will activate set off the
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Leo solar eclipse from the middle of August all of
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which is to say we are acting on processing hitting
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up levels next stages and many many things that were
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installed in july and august one final thing at the
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end of the month communication gets really deep and non-verbal
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mercury moves into scorpio which is where the social director
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of the skies venus currently is and both of those
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planets are going to be going retrograde in october on
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a delayed schedule, Venus will go first. So just know
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that we're in for a long stretch of time of
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dealing with, exploring, revisiting things that we feel incredibly strongly,
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intensely about. And there's a nonverbal streak in this. It's
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more sensed than conscious and spoken. And it's got a
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very strong visceral streak to it as well. And it
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will affect our relationships and how we deal with each other.
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We'll be revisiting a lot. which fits completely with what
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we're going to be talking about today. I am pleased
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to have as a first-time guest Canadian astrologer Tracy Quinlan, who,
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after completing a Bachelor of Arts in Sociology and Psychology,
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began her astrology education in 2007. So that was one
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Virgo Pisces person. eclipse cycle ago, she has earned certificates
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from Kepler College and the School of Traditional Astrology. And
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she is here today because she's the author of a
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new book, Charting Love with Astrology. Hey, Tracy, welcome. Hi, Kathy.
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Thanks for having me. It's great to be here. I'm
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very glad to talk about all that astrology. And it's like,
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it's so much right now, isn't it?
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Yes.
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Do you get people texting you saying, what's happening? Can
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you explain this? Can you make sense of this?
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Yeah.
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Especially like we're still, I think we've adjusted a bit
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cause it was so intense over the summer that it's like,
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we're just still, still on the hangover from the eclipses
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and stuff. So yeah.
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Hangover is a good way to put it. It's an
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excellent way to put it. Yeah. Can we, can we
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back up just a little bit here? I always like
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to ask, people when they're first on uh the show
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how you came to astrology.
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My well i always loved it you know sun signs
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horoscopes all that stuff when i was a teenager and
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i had a friend bring a giant astrology book to
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high school and we calculated our charts by hand i
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think i was 16 um i could I had to
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relearn how to do it. I don't even know how
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we managed it, but I had a reading a few
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years later and we had correct correctly calculated them. Um,
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but it was always something that was interesting to me.
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I sort of understood sun signs, moon signs, and I
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was a hairstylist for more than 30 years. So it
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was something to talk with my clients about. I always
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had astrology books on my station and if they had
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to sit for a while, I'd give them stuff to read.
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So it, it, a lot of the stuff that I
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learned before I trained, through court, you know, courses was
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just in talking with people and asking them questions about
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themselves and comparing that to the astrology. So it's been
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a part of my life for much longer than it wasn't,
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you know.
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I certainly can relate to that. And, you know, I
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imagine you were told some incredible stuff because hairstylists are
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the confidants of the world, you know.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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People are pretty open when you're, when you have a
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license to touch them, you know, it's one of those,
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those jobs that you're really one of the only people
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that has a license to touch people. So people are
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forthcoming for sure.
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And you're standing in there, Aura.
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That's right.
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So what, what drew you to the whole issue of relationships?
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It's such a big combination of things. So I have
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like a very strong relationship house. I have a lot
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of stuff in the seventh house in my own chart
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and some stuff in Libra. And so it's a thing
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that even if it's something I wasn't drawn to, people
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were drawn to me to talk about it.
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Yeah.
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And so, you know, it's one of those things that
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people when they're booking, it's often one of the things
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people want to explore.
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And then....
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Two things sort of happened simultaneously. I was looking to
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build something free, you know, to get people to sign
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up for my newsletter. And so the House Cusps, which
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is sort of the last half of the book, was
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the thing that I sort of wrote a little short
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ebook on. But I also was teaching students and I
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found that they'd always hit the same wall in learning
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where they'd learned all the basics, but they didn't know
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how to use them or how to put them together.
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And so really the book was developed for like a
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whole story that people could dive into their chart or
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their friends charts and sort of take all of those
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pieces of astrology and put them together in a cohesive story.
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And so it was sort of like, there's two goal audiences,
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people who really want to understand their relationship patterns and
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people who are studying astrology and want to learn how
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to have an interesting technique to use all of the
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pieces and put them together in a certain way. So
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that's how it came about.
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And you do go about this in a more, eclectic
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isn't quite the right word for it, but you go
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at this from directions that some people wouldn't think to do.
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I mean, you do start with Venus and Mars. Some
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people don't even look at Mars. So what was your
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decision of putting both of those in?
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Well, you know, I think that having that balance and
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understanding the energy of those two things. I mean, Mars
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is part of our sexuality story. So I think it's
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an important thing to be looking at when we're looking
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at relationships. And Venus is about what we want. You know,
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at its core, it's literally the thing that's attracting everything
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that we want. And so to me, it's like understanding
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those two parts of yourself are pretty important when we're
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talking about how we're relating to other people. So that's
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why I started with Mars and Venus.
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And then you also look at different houses that could
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play a role. Yeah.
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And actually that's a funny story. I had a client
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come to me who had ended a long marriage. She
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said she'd been unhappy in most of it, you know,
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for over 30 years unhappy. And she had like zero
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connection between the romance house and the relationship house, like
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absolutely none. And I thought, like it just kind of
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flew out of my mouth. And I said, Oh, you
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probably should have had an affair. And then realize, Ooh,
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I don't really know her that well. She got really
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quiet and she goes, you know what? You're probably right.
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You know? And I thought, and that led me down
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a path to sort of like, we are not all
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designed to have the type of relationship we're taught. We're
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supposed to have where it's like you date and then,
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you know, you follow this direct path to marriage and whatever.
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which explains why people don't stay together, you know, because
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we're not all built to follow that same line. And
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so that is why I thought it was important to
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look at the rulers of those houses and sort of
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understand where you start on the relationship path because not
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everybody starts in the fifth house romance part of the story.
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So the houses that you focus on are?
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Fifth for romance and casual sex. Um, seventh for partnership
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and commitment and eighth for intimacy and deeper connection. So
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those are the three. And then I do cover, you know, um,
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if the rulers of those houses are in other houses,
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we sort of talk about what that means. And that,
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that goes more into where to go looking, you know,
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if you're looking just for fun, where's your fifth house
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ruler and where can you find it? If you're looking
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for a partner, where's your seventh house ruler and where
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can you find it? So.
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Yeah, I went through that and it was astonishing. Pretty
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much everybody I've dated in the later, like the second
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two thirds of my life, it's all been in the
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same arena. I mean, the same physical area. It's fascinating.
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So could you elaborate on that?
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Well, and it's funny because sometimes it's really obscure. Like
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somebody who'd read and did one of the forwards in
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the book said, Her partner, she met him when he
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had gone on a self-discovery, reconnecting with himself trip, and
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he visited her city. And it was first house. And
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so it was like one of those really roundabout things
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that it's hard to describe to people. It's like you
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might meet somebody when you go try to find yourself.
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And then the other piece of that was knowing a
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lot of people in my life who were looking for
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partnership and we, you know, we tend to default to
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what everybody else is doing. And it's like, well, if
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you don't have a strong Uranus Mercury connection online, isn't
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likely to be your best place to be looking for somebody.
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And so, um, maybe it's, if you have a strong
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connection between the seventh house and the fourth house of family,
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maybe you should let your mom set you up, you know,
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like stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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Maybe it's your brother or sister who's going to set
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you up if it's in the third house, you know,
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and so don't discount some of these possibilities because that
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might be the best option for you.
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all kinds of places. And the, so the thinking is
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you look at where in your chart, the ruler of
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one of these relationship houses is, and then see, what
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activities are associated with that house.
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can do, and the other section is actual places you
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can think about visiting. And the other piece of that
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is you're going to have a natural resonance to those
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places just because of your chart anyway. So there's going
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to be some self-discovery that happens if you do these things,
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whether it's finding a partner or not. It could be
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just connecting with people who fill that partner energy in
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a way that maybe it doesn't have to be romantic,
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you know? So that was the hope with the book
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is that people might look at relationship a little bit
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differently than just what Disney told us we were supposed
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to believe about love.
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Oh, I have so many things I could say in
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response to that. Let me see if I can take
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it back to something actually useful. Okay. What keeps coming
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through my mind is, Where did your actually writing this
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book fall in relation to the Aries Libra eclipses? How's
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that for a question you weren't thinking about?
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Hmm. Because the Aries Libra eclipses put every, they, they,
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they emphasized the individual end of the relationship equation. Like
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I have not run into in my life. And so
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many clients that got hit by those eclipses had really
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heavy Libra placements that was if the sky was trying
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to break them from, think of the other person first
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and try to manipulate your life into what you think
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they're going to want, but instead go be yourself. And
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I think there's actually kind of a streak of that,
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maybe not directly, but in your book, like, look at
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you stop worrying about the other person, but look at
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how you're wired and what you need. So I was
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just curious, can you think it does, does that eclipse
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cycle pay any?
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Well, it's funny that you bring it up because I
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think the actual like beginning birth of it happened when
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I was in the seventh house perfection year. Um, and
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then actually, kind of, it built over the time and
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led into that eclipse season. So because it is, it
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was a long arc from first born to having it published. So, um, yeah,
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it would have, it likely would have been right about
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when I submitted it, that that's, that energy first got triggered.
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I have, my moon is in Aries and I have
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three planets on the other side in Libra. So That
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is so activated now and has been since Chiron went
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into Ares. So, yeah, I definitely could see how it
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would be part of how that streak line goes straight
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through the book. Because I have a Chiron in Ares, too.
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Ah, there you go. Well, so what did... I mean,
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you've talked to people for years, you were working on
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their hair, you heard all these incredible relationship stories and
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started and wondering like, hmm, what's the astrology behind this?
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How did that then become, I think I'm going to
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write a book?
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Well, like I said, I had made this little ebook
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and everybody that saw it was like, you need to
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charge for this. And then, you know, as I started
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thinking more in terms of, well, how do I want
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to help people as opposed to how do I want
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to make money from something? which was the original seed.
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So what questions would I want to ask myself if
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I was back out looking for a partner? What about
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myself did I need to know before I did meet
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my partner? What were the things that clicked before I
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met my partner? And all of that led to these
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are the things that I feel like people need to
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understand about themselves before they can find that person. If
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there is that person, maybe it's more than one person,
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you know? Um, and then to sort of understand there's
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another piece to this, um, talking with clients who were
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in the dating world. And I kept seeing this, um,
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same pattern of people I don't know how to put
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it asking like just being very concerned about whether they
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were liked and never at any point in time asking
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if they even liked the person you know and I
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realized there was this self-reflection piece that people really needed
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to um if they wanted to understand what it was
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was meant for them and where they would thrive that
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self-reflection had to happen and that understanding of like, what
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do I want? You know, is this really what I want? And, and,
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you know, that holding off on the being so concerned
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about what everybody else is thinking and pleasing, right. Becoming
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somebody that somebody else is going to like. And so
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I had seen that enough times that, that I thought, okay,
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if I'm, if I'm going to put a book out
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and I want to help people, that's the thing to me,
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that's most important about entering a happy, healthy life.
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Partnership. I had a conversation earlier today with a client
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that tracks with this completely. So it's a common thing.
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And I think it's extraordinarily important and valuable to continue
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to put the emphasis on the you, like stop worrying
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about what's going on with the other person. You're with
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yourself for your whole life and figure yourself out. And
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then maybe you'll stop and go, wait, I don't even
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like chocolate ice cream. Why do I keep ordering it?
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You know, that sort of thing.
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It's true. I mean, we're just so socially programmed to
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think we're supposed to do things in a particular way,
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you know, and often like I just something that I've
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come across so often that and it's it is more
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predominantly female, but not necessarily that it's what am I
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supposed to do as opposed to what do I want
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to do? Or even when you say, what do you want?
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It's like, there's a list of things we're supposed to
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want instead of, well, what do I, why do I
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want that? Do I want a partner? Cause I want company.
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Do I want a partner? Cause I want somebody to
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do stuff with like, what's the why in that story?
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And I think that's, that's a much more important question
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than who, you know, cause if you can fill in
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the why part of it, who will just become more obvious, right?
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If you know why.
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So how did your academic background, studies dovetail into this
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seems to me they might have just.
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A bit well my how i ended up in sociology
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i started out in economics um and took sociology of
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gender and so that was where my love of sociology
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was born um was understanding how socially programmed we actually
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are with all of this and where my disdain for
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disney came from was in understanding like we just you
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know I love Disneyland and I, I grew up loving Disney.
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Don't get me wrong. But, um, just that programming of
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we're all supposed to be princesses and we're looking for
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this one prince and we're all fighting for him. That
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was the thing that really drove me nuts growing up
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is why are we always fighting with, why are women
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always holding each other back to, but we've been taught
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that there's only one guy for 25 of us, you know? So, um,
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trying to dispel some of that. So that's where the
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sociology came into it. And I'm, Oh, wait. I mean,
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that's how I connect the astrology too. I'm so fascinated
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with the cycles and how everybody seems to be working
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in those same sort of patterns. It's intriguing to me
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for sure.
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And doesn't it fit in with what's going on right
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now with the three outer planets traveling in sync and
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one planet after another coming in through the Leo spot
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to close the gap?
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I mean.
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it seems to me that everyone's inner core is getting
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fired up in a way that it hasn't been. Yeah.
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And I really think that, um, Chiron really primed all
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of that in, in Aries with that, all that fire
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and that me, right. That what about me? We've heard
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so much of that while Chiron's been in Aries. And
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so as the other planets join, we're starting to see
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that who am I and what do I want and
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things getting torn down and It's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable to watch.
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It's uncomfortable to experience, but reality has changed. Each one
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of us has changed. And I've been observing such accelerated
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disintegration of social groups and people moving. I mean, since
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the summer, things that seemed like they were solid, everyone's
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just all the little The brownie in motion, I'm not
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even sure how to put it, but just all the
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little pieces are going, they're all moving into other places. Yeah,
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for sure. Not because anybody has done anything, well, in
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most cases, heinous. I could give examples. But because everyone's
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gotten something awakened in them of, wait a minute, I
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get to do this differently? Like, yeah, because the world
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that bred you doesn't exist anymore.
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Right.
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And, you know, it's interesting because that was definitely not
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at the front of my mind when I was putting
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the book together. But intuitively now it's just it's interesting
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because it's like we all as as we don't get
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to go back to the world that we were in,
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it just is not going to go back to that.
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Everybody really needs to figure out what it is they want,
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you know, and what what they want out of life
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and let everything evolve around them and participate in any
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way that they can, you know. So that was not
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my intention, but knowing ourselves and who we are and
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what we want is makes the transition so much easier.
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You know, you can say yes and no to the
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things that fit you instead of just following along and
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letting it all happen.
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You know, I agree completely. And this is a good
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Welcome back to Celestial Compass. I'm talking today with Tracy
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Quinlan author of charting love with astrology. Can you hold
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your book up so people can see it? Nice thick book.
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There you go. And this is published by Llewellyn, right?
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You bet. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I've written the horoscopes for Llewellyn for the calendar. Now
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I think I'm in going in year seven. So I've been,
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I've worked with Llewellyn for quite a while. So they
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lovingly published my book.
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Excellent. Excellent. Did you go to them and say, hey,
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I've done more? Or is that how this came about?
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You know what I did? I reached out to my
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editor and she said, here's the submission guidelines. And she said,
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and I said, I already have this ebook, which isn't
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like the full book. She goes, well, submit it and
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see what happens. And I did. I didn't tell a
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soul because I was You know, nothing happens, nothing happens.
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And so I just about pooped a brick a little
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bit when they said, we'd like your book.
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I can imagine. Yes.
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Author was not on my bingo card. So it was,
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it was a pleasant surprise.
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Oh, that's cool. Excellent. Excellent. So going back just to
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stepping back a little bit and starting, I probably should
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have brought this up earlier, but what do you see
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as the role of astrology? Cause I have some definite
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experiences of how it changed my viewpoint on someone. Hmm.
484
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You know, it's funny cause it, the way I've approached
485
00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:17.309
astrology has morphed in many, many ways, you know, and
486
00:30:17.349 --> 00:30:19.170
I kind of dipped my foot into more of the
487
00:30:19.210 --> 00:30:22.720
prediction side of it and realized that my, my love
488
00:30:22.740 --> 00:30:25.900
of astrology has always been in the self acceptance, self
489
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:29.410
discovery part and, And that's what it did for me.
490
00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:33.569
I was somebody who was always kind of confused by
491
00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:36.970
how my family saw me, how people saw me. And
492
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astrology really put that into perspective. I sort of understood
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why and what they were seeing versus how I felt
494
00:30:43.710 --> 00:30:47.079
on the inside. And yeah, and it allowed me to
495
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.400
sort of personal growth in a way that's so much
496
00:30:50.460 --> 00:30:53.440
more directed than you can do any other way, you know.
497
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And so I've returned back to that. To me, that's
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the role is what kind of cycles are we in?
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What patterns are we living through? How can we make
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00:31:03.019 --> 00:31:07.319
ourselves better? How can we work with the lives that
501
00:31:07.420 --> 00:31:07.819
we're given?
502
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.740
I've also found that when you know things about somebody's chart,
503
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.220
you understand them in a way because it's really easy
504
00:31:20.269 --> 00:31:23.980
to put your own assumptions about how people are supposed
505
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:29.839
to behave and on somebody and make assumptions about their motivations.
506
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.799
And when you know their chart, you can go, Oh,
507
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.700
they aren't just being difficult. That's the way they communicate.
508
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.440
Yes. That can be so helpful with transits too. If
509
00:31:40.460 --> 00:31:42.660
you know what the transit somebody is going through and
510
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:46.410
all of a sudden they're just being different, weird, short tempered,
511
00:31:46.670 --> 00:31:49.920
you know, whatever the case may be. Um, knowing that
512
00:31:49.980 --> 00:31:52.990
it's going to pass and what's triggering it and maybe
513
00:31:53.029 --> 00:31:56.130
we can work with it is really helpful for sure.
514
00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:58.750
Or maybe you'll just go duck for a while.
515
00:31:59.490 --> 00:32:01.029
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
516
00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:01.529
Yeah.
517
00:32:01.890 --> 00:32:04.690
Well, and knowing sort of where the stumbling blocks are
518
00:32:04.750 --> 00:32:07.690
between two charts is really helpful because there's just some
519
00:32:07.750 --> 00:32:12.170
things that you might never have connect with another person,
520
00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:14.039
you know, with something that's just always going to be
521
00:32:14.140 --> 00:32:17.339
on opposite sides. So it's good to know that for sure.
522
00:32:18.829 --> 00:32:25.069
Excuse me. I have found that communication is often one
523
00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:29.329
of the stumbling blocks. That and differences in moon. So
524
00:32:29.789 --> 00:32:34.240
differences in how people express and experience love and in
525
00:32:34.339 --> 00:32:39.660
how they communicate. Have you witnessed that? Have you observed that?
526
00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:42.339
Do you see something else, something more complex going on?
527
00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:47.250
You know, I agree with that. But there's also, you know,
528
00:32:47.269 --> 00:32:50.569
I was thinking about this yesterday in preparation for this
529
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and that, you know, when we talk about the synastry piece.
530
00:32:56.150 --> 00:32:58.869
So say you've got Venus's that aren't talking to each other.
531
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As long as there's another personal planet and that you understand.
532
00:33:05.150 --> 00:33:09.420
So say, you know, with my husband and I, his
533
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.329
Jupiter is in Leo. My Venus is in Leo. his
534
00:33:13.380 --> 00:33:16.269
Venus is in Taurus. So there's, there's some similarities and
535
00:33:16.289 --> 00:33:20.789
some differences there. So understanding that through his beliefs, my
536
00:33:20.849 --> 00:33:25.319
values are represented, you know, say somebody has a son
537
00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:29.400
and it's their Venus. So your values are being met
538
00:33:29.460 --> 00:33:32.660
through who they are as opposed to through their own values, right?
539
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.930
And so sort of understanding where you can find those
540
00:33:36.009 --> 00:33:38.130
things with the other person can be helpful too.
541
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:45.619
Well, that's a deeper way of looking at situations. Okay.
542
00:33:45.809 --> 00:33:47.589
All right. Yeah.
543
00:33:47.750 --> 00:33:51.450
Well, to your point, if somebody is having communication issues,
544
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it gives you a place to go, right? And the
545
00:33:54.809 --> 00:33:58.470
conversation is sort of understanding where they're coming from in
546
00:33:58.509 --> 00:34:00.490
the thing that you're having a concern with, right?
547
00:34:02.009 --> 00:34:06.009
Well, people take in information in different ways and their
548
00:34:06.029 --> 00:34:09.969
brains work in different ways. So that was one of
549
00:34:09.989 --> 00:34:14.210
the most telling things about me. In an astrology class
550
00:34:14.409 --> 00:34:18.409
one time, there was a woman I thought was the slowest,
551
00:34:19.269 --> 00:34:22.610
stupidest person I had ever run into in my life. Yes,
552
00:34:23.050 --> 00:34:26.590
I was being very judgmental. I have Mercury in Aquarius.
553
00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:31.650
I'll own up to it. And the teacher had us
554
00:34:31.690 --> 00:34:33.650
look up in the ephemeris. It was that long ago
555
00:34:33.690 --> 00:34:36.960
we actually held an ephemeris in our hands and looked
556
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.130
up the speed of the moon and whether Mercury was
557
00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:45.329
ahead or behind the sun. And most people have it balanced,
558
00:34:45.449 --> 00:34:47.949
but there's, if Mercury is behind the sun and you
559
00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:51.090
have a slow moon, that's one thing. And if Mercury
560
00:34:51.110 --> 00:34:53.090
is ahead of the sun and you have a fast moon,
561
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that was me. And this woman was the other. And
562
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.480
when I saw that she couldn't even find stuff in
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00:34:58.500 --> 00:35:02.619
the ephemeris. And I was, just thinking all kinds of
564
00:35:02.659 --> 00:35:06.190
nasty things until that became clear. And then suddenly something
565
00:35:06.250 --> 00:35:11.150
in my, in my mid twenties brain went, she's not
566
00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:15.190
doing this on purpose. That's the way she is. Stop it.
567
00:35:16.969 --> 00:35:18.179
Yes, absolutely.
568
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Yeah.
569
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Understanding mercury and understanding the moon when you're dealing with
570
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.059
other people can be so helpful. Big time for sure.
571
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:33.190
Um, What would you, so do you think this, what
572
00:35:33.250 --> 00:35:36.090
life do you see for your book? Besides, yes, you
573
00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:37.769
want a lot of people to read it and buy it.
574
00:35:38.389 --> 00:35:40.099
Do you teach courses based on it?
575
00:35:40.690 --> 00:35:43.880
Not yet. That's next. I'm just building a Venus course
576
00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:47.159
right now. And I definitely am going to create a
577
00:35:47.219 --> 00:35:49.900
course on the book, but you know what the dream is.
578
00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:53.659
I'd love to see people start book clubs where they
579
00:35:53.699 --> 00:35:56.119
can go out on little, you know, whoever's got their
580
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.440
ruler of their seventh house and say that, 11th house,
581
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.940
they all go out together. And to me, there's a
582
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.980
real social piece to this book that I'd love to
583
00:36:04.019 --> 00:36:09.159
see people take advantage of and make it fun, right?
584
00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:12.889
Instead of, we tend to, when there's something that we
585
00:36:12.969 --> 00:36:14.989
feel we want and we don't have, and if it's,
586
00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:17.570
if you're feeling kind of alone in that, it's not
587
00:36:17.630 --> 00:36:22.949
fun anymore. You know, relationships and connecting with people, you're going,
588
00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:25.789
you're better off to be doing it from a joyful
589
00:36:25.829 --> 00:36:30.019
place than from a place of anything else, you know,
590
00:36:30.460 --> 00:36:34.260
as we know from manifestation, lack is never, you know,
591
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where to move forward from. So I would love to
592
00:36:36.739 --> 00:36:39.260
see people use it more for fun.
593
00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:42.280
That's a real fifth house sentiment.
594
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That's where my Venus is.
595
00:36:47.650 --> 00:36:54.329
Go enjoy yourself. Okay. So you could, okay. I see
596
00:36:54.349 --> 00:36:56.449
what you're, what you're doing with this. I could see
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00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.760
gangs of women hanging out over glasses of wine and
598
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.639
chewing up each other's tarts. Definitely the tarts of the
599
00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:05.980
people that they're eyeing. Yeah, there we go.
600
00:37:06.980 --> 00:37:09.170
Yeah, I think it would be fun. But the goal
601
00:37:09.230 --> 00:37:11.769
for me in terms of what I'm going to want
602
00:37:11.789 --> 00:37:14.090
to run is I definitely would like to create a
603
00:37:14.150 --> 00:37:20.239
course that helps people with their using the astrology tools
604
00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:24.789
to sort of build their skills as opposed to And
605
00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:27.199
then there could be a separate group of people who
606
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.070
want to learn their relationship pattern and go at it
607
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.179
from that angle. So likely there's two courses that need
608
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:34.739
to be built.
609
00:37:35.539 --> 00:37:42.460
Good. Excellent. Make an empire here. And the courses can
610
00:37:42.500 --> 00:37:46.039
be done online, which is one thing that's good about
611
00:37:46.099 --> 00:37:48.199
the way the world has evolved. It's not just the
612
00:37:48.260 --> 00:37:51.860
five people that you found at whatever the little bookstore is,
613
00:37:51.900 --> 00:37:52.579
wherever you are.
614
00:37:53.650 --> 00:37:54.210
Exactly.
615
00:37:54.230 --> 00:38:00.780
Further ones in. Okay. Well, I guess this is what
616
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.800
you've been, I mean, are there other topics, other things
617
00:38:04.860 --> 00:38:08.099
that are intriguing you right now? Or are you very
618
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.800
much just still in relationship land?
619
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:15.369
Well, you know, so my other obsession is people who
620
00:38:15.389 --> 00:38:18.230
have quincunxes in their chart. And that'll actually, that's the
621
00:38:18.389 --> 00:38:20.889
book that I'm working on right now. Interesting.
622
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:22.260
Yeah.
623
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.570
Cause to me it's, I, you know, I think there's
624
00:38:25.590 --> 00:38:28.570
a lot of things in astrology that have been underrated.
625
00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:31.449
And I think that when I started studying astrology, the
626
00:38:31.510 --> 00:38:35.389
moon was still really underrated and that has changed in
627
00:38:35.429 --> 00:38:39.590
the last 12 years. Um, Venus is now starting, people
628
00:38:39.630 --> 00:38:42.380
are starting to understand how powerful Venus actually is. So
629
00:38:42.429 --> 00:38:46.340
that's excellent. Um, so quincunxes to me are the next,
630
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:51.690
because if, um, People who have strong quincunxes, especially with
631
00:38:51.730 --> 00:38:56.409
chart rulers or the luminaries, are walking a very different path.
632
00:38:56.809 --> 00:39:00.420
And to just say, you need to make adjustments is
633
00:39:00.579 --> 00:39:04.059
just not enough to explain the energy of that in
634
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:09.440
a birth chart. So that's my next thing. Yeah.
635
00:39:09.500 --> 00:39:13.429
Do you have a database of people in the news,
636
00:39:13.570 --> 00:39:16.670
of celebrated people that you're looking at? Or is this
637
00:39:16.730 --> 00:39:19.940
mostly going to be? from clients allowing.
638
00:39:19.579 --> 00:39:23.920
You no there there's one aspect of um quincunxes a
639
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.829
hallmark of quincunxes um is definitely going to be celebrity
640
00:39:27.869 --> 00:39:30.940
related for sure Cause there's something that I have noticed
641
00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:33.119
a pattern over the past five years. And it's like
642
00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:37.710
every single time I see somebody who's had a career
643
00:39:37.750 --> 00:39:41.590
that's never stopped, there's a quincunx. And I have yet
644
00:39:41.670 --> 00:39:45.110
to look up a chart where that's not true. That's like,
645
00:39:45.510 --> 00:39:49.550
I've had a hundred percent accuracy on that. So, That's
646
00:39:49.610 --> 00:39:51.699
something that is fascinating to me.
647
00:39:52.420 --> 00:39:57.719
Now I must look. And you haven't looked at quincunxes
648
00:39:57.780 --> 00:39:59.199
between individuals.
649
00:40:00.219 --> 00:40:03.579
Yeah. I mean, in synastry, quincunxes are very tricky, right?
650
00:40:03.619 --> 00:40:07.130
Because you've got two planets that don't have anything in
651
00:40:07.190 --> 00:40:10.170
common and can't see each other. And so it is
652
00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:15.010
definitely a conversation in synastry astrology that's difficult to navigate
653
00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:18.530
and something that is often with if it's the rulers
654
00:40:18.809 --> 00:40:23.909
of relationship houses, not usually resolvable. So that'll definitely be
655
00:40:23.969 --> 00:40:26.230
a section of the Quinn Conks book for sure. Cause
656
00:40:26.289 --> 00:40:30.469
it's yeah, it's not, it's not, they're not easy when
657
00:40:30.489 --> 00:40:35.039
you're relating between people for sure. I can think of, yeah,
658
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:36.179
go ahead. No, you go ahead.
659
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:37.039
No, no, no, no.
660
00:40:38.019 --> 00:40:40.659
I was just going to say, even by transit, Christopher
661
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.769
Reeves is such a great example because he has, natal
662
00:40:43.809 --> 00:40:46.130
quincunxes and they were all triggered the day he fell
663
00:40:46.190 --> 00:40:49.449
off his horse and his life changed like everything was
664
00:40:49.510 --> 00:40:52.030
lit up at the moment he fell off his horse.
665
00:40:52.230 --> 00:41:00.119
Yeah astrology is just astonishing it is oh it lines
666
00:41:00.300 --> 00:41:03.840
up so so much uh are you one of those
667
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.159
people who you know you'll run into someone or you'll
668
00:41:06.179 --> 00:41:08.139
see something in the news and you go i have
669
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.360
to look this up i used to be just real
670
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:13.360
be as consumed.
671
00:41:14.139 --> 00:41:17.179
If it, if it is lined up with something that
672
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:21.400
I'm obsessed with in the moment. Yes, for sure. Absolutely. Um,
673
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.360
but I'm not like, I think sometimes we can be
674
00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:27.989
a bit voyeuristic as astrologers where it's like everything that happens,
675
00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:29.630
you need to look it up and stick the chart up.
676
00:41:29.710 --> 00:41:34.269
And I, if we're exploiting people's pain, I don't love that.
677
00:41:34.349 --> 00:41:36.789
And I, I've kind of, I've migrated away from that
678
00:41:36.849 --> 00:41:40.380
big time. Um, But yeah, if it's like the quincunx
679
00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:45.000
thing right now, because it's like, I'll see actors coming
680
00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:49.699
back and having this huge surge in later life of
681
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.369
their careers. And it's like, I'm there looking for the
682
00:41:52.429 --> 00:41:55.489
quincunxes in the birth chart for sure.
683
00:41:56.409 --> 00:42:00.230
I will start, I will peel my eyes for that one.
684
00:42:02.010 --> 00:42:04.710
Right now I'm just obsessed with this Venus and Scorpio
685
00:42:04.769 --> 00:42:10.670
retrograde because I like what's happening culturally in the U
686
00:42:10.889 --> 00:42:14.050
S and Canada, all of these, we're all having these
687
00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:18.340
major elections that are based on our values and our fears.
688
00:42:19.179 --> 00:42:22.440
And it just is amazing to me how this is happening,
689
00:42:22.619 --> 00:42:25.940
like on such a huge scale. Um, and that this
690
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.440
Venus and Scorpio is like digging up stuff for everybody.
691
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.840
So it's going to be an interesting six, eight weeks.
692
00:42:34.869 --> 00:42:39.460
Very messy and, and what's with your, you know, your
693
00:42:39.500 --> 00:42:43.320
own personal toys and your own personal money is a big,
694
00:42:43.380 --> 00:42:45.340
big piece also.
695
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.969
Yes, for sure. I'm happy though that the nodes have
696
00:42:49.989 --> 00:42:53.909
shifted because if they were still on that axis of
697
00:42:53.969 --> 00:42:59.349
Scorpio Taurus, I feel like it would be messier with
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00:42:59.369 --> 00:43:04.739
the Venus and Scorpio. Um, especially around stuff and having
699
00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.619
to hoard stuff. I think that could be unpleasant on
700
00:43:08.659 --> 00:43:12.059
a big scale. So in the signs that they're in now,
701
00:43:12.380 --> 00:43:14.110
it's shifted too ideologically.
702
00:43:15.829 --> 00:43:16.730
That's very true.
703
00:43:17.250 --> 00:43:17.929
My two cents.
704
00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:21.250
No, it's more than two cents. I mean, the news has,
705
00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:26.860
it's been salacious for quite some time. Things are being
706
00:43:26.900 --> 00:43:32.340
talked about in common parlance that I could not have imagined.
707
00:43:32.780 --> 00:43:35.659
And it's even getting worse now that Venus is in Scorpio.
708
00:43:36.019 --> 00:43:39.300
There have been some things that have happened and my
709
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.550
jaw just goes slack. Like I can't even be shocked anymore. Like, well, okay,
710
00:43:42.570 --> 00:43:46.929
that makes sense. Okay, okay. So we have a woman
711
00:43:47.789 --> 00:43:52.190
rep with an ethics complaint about having sex with her
712
00:43:52.230 --> 00:43:53.010
female staffers.
713
00:43:53.809 --> 00:43:54.130
Right.
714
00:43:54.190 --> 00:43:56.630
When the last complaint about her was what she was
715
00:43:56.670 --> 00:43:59.010
doing in a public place with a man. Okay. Okay.
716
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.329
All right. Like what now? Okay.
717
00:44:02.050 --> 00:44:04.409
Wasn't there a bestiality thing recently too?
718
00:44:04.630 --> 00:44:08.150
Yes. Yes. The FBI has no longer, that's, that's been
719
00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:12.719
dropped as a, as a bar to being considered as
720
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.280
an applicant. There's gotta be a story that they're getting,
721
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that they're getting ahead of. Wow. Why, why would this
722
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even come up? Like, okay.
723
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Yeah.
724
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Yeah.
725
00:44:21.900 --> 00:44:25.929
It's, it, it is a bit bizarre. It's all just
726
00:44:26.070 --> 00:44:30.739
really weird. But yeah. It's a very strange time. Pluto
727
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.570
in Aquarius has not disappointed in terms of how weird
728
00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:36.119
stuff could get.
729
00:44:37.750 --> 00:44:40.829
Well, I hate to think of where it could go.
730
00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:46.269
What is your sense of this bizarre crossover of Mercury
731
00:44:46.329 --> 00:44:50.849
going retrograde right after the Venus Kazemi and her sliding
732
00:44:50.889 --> 00:44:56.409
back into her own turf of Libra? I mean, that
733
00:44:56.449 --> 00:45:00.340
little period in October when that is happening Who knows
734
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:01.340
what will be going on?
735
00:45:02.059 --> 00:45:06.440
Well, you know, those two signs are, it's always fascinating
736
00:45:06.500 --> 00:45:09.760
to me that they're back to back. And the fact
737
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:15.409
that there's a retrograde is so wild because Scorpio is
738
00:45:15.670 --> 00:45:18.329
what we don't talk about. It's that stuff that we
739
00:45:18.349 --> 00:45:21.610
don't want to talk about. And Libra is so prissy.
740
00:45:22.269 --> 00:45:24.840
And so it's almost like as we're going forward and
741
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.980
back and forward and back through those two signs, You know,
742
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.559
we dig up the poop and then Libra is going
743
00:45:30.579 --> 00:45:32.679
to try to make it nice. And this is kind
744
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.440
of the energy that we're going to see, I think,
745
00:45:34.460 --> 00:45:37.530
for the next eight weeks. It's just the strange stuff
746
00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:40.230
getting dug up. And then Libra trying to put a
747
00:45:40.269 --> 00:45:43.710
nice smell on it. So I don't know how that's
748
00:45:43.730 --> 00:45:44.309
going to go.
749
00:45:44.329 --> 00:45:49.750
No, Mercury is going to continue to pull the dirt up. Like, okay,
750
00:45:49.829 --> 00:45:52.070
how do we write a greeting card about this?
751
00:45:52.989 --> 00:45:58.170
Yep, yep. Where I am, the full moon chart has
752
00:45:58.250 --> 00:46:02.710
Venus exact on the ascendant and Mercury in the 12th.
753
00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:06.889
And I was like, uh-oh, that's going to, yep, stuff
754
00:46:06.929 --> 00:46:10.460
is hiding and it'll come out over the next few months.
755
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.300
It's a lot. So you haven't had massive political scandals
756
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:19.250
erupting yet in your....
757
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.909
So it's in Canada... It's tricky because we only have
758
00:46:24.949 --> 00:46:29.639
a couple of news sources and they're all very publicly
759
00:46:29.989 --> 00:46:34.320
owned by the right. People who own them are right leaning.
760
00:46:35.179 --> 00:46:38.840
So we don't get like stuff gets buried very quickly
761
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.079
here unless you're watching the Internet and paying attention. If
762
00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:45.840
there is scandal, it tends to get hidden pretty quick.
763
00:46:46.739 --> 00:46:51.239
So we are hearing little ruffles of stuff that's going on.
764
00:46:51.699 --> 00:46:55.059
behind the scenes. Um, but it's, it, it like you guys,
765
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.659
things are happening so rapidly that you can't keep up.
766
00:46:58.059 --> 00:46:59.860
You can't keep up with the stuff that's going on.
767
00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:04.239
That's shocking, you know? So yes, we are having that
768
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:09.860
stuff happen here for sure. Not like the Epstein files though.
769
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.559
I was just thinking, I was just thinking if, with, with,
770
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:21.699
if Venus is on the, uh, on the horizon where you're, Like,
771
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.840
is there something governmental that might be coming out? Who knows?
772
00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:28.820
Well, and so we're about to have a vote of
773
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.860
whether this particular province wants to stay in Canada. They're
774
00:47:31.929 --> 00:47:35.190
doing like a test of a referendum here. And that's
775
00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:38.230
all about our values, right? That's all about whether we
776
00:47:38.289 --> 00:47:40.010
feel like we want to stay part of the country
777
00:47:40.090 --> 00:47:42.650
and what we value. So to me, it seems a
778
00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:46.360
bit more about that. And they have. outright lied about
779
00:47:46.460 --> 00:47:49.039
their plans and what they can do and what they
780
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:53.179
can't do. So it's kind of more leaning in that direction. Like, um,
781
00:47:53.389 --> 00:47:57.409
just not being really upfront about their plans and how this,
782
00:47:57.590 --> 00:47:59.989
how they can actually pull this off if they can.
783
00:48:00.170 --> 00:48:04.309
So, yeah, that fits. It does.
784
00:48:04.369 --> 00:48:06.369
It's a little bit less salacious, but it does fit
785
00:48:06.869 --> 00:48:08.670
the themes for sure.
786
00:48:10.190 --> 00:48:14.800
I bet there'll be a salacious piece that, Comes in
787
00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:19.989
as well. No telling. I mean, Justin Trudeau and Katy
788
00:48:20.030 --> 00:48:22.429
Perry have been kind of quiet. So who knows what
789
00:48:22.449 --> 00:48:23.130
will happen with that?
790
00:48:25.269 --> 00:48:28.409
Anyway, just giving her Scorpio in her chart. There's got
791
00:48:28.429 --> 00:48:31.380
to be something because she's like all Scorpio first house
792
00:48:31.420 --> 00:48:31.900
that girl.
793
00:48:33.820 --> 00:48:36.179
Ah, well, you're in the know. Okay.
794
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.059
I use her for my new one of my new
795
00:48:38.099 --> 00:48:40.659
moon examples. So that's the only reason I know her
796
00:48:40.699 --> 00:48:41.280
chart like that.
797
00:48:43.820 --> 00:48:46.300
Well, what's been going through my head while we've been
798
00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:49.679
talking is, do you have any thoughts on what might,
799
00:48:51.090 --> 00:48:56.630
what might happen when Mars moves into Leo and is
800
00:48:56.690 --> 00:49:00.789
in a sign that's squaring all of this Scorpio?
801
00:49:03.050 --> 00:49:05.750
You know, I don't, because if we think about what
802
00:49:05.849 --> 00:49:10.820
Jupiter's been doing in Leo and really blowing people's egos
803
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:15.750
out of the water, Mars and Leo feels like anybody
804
00:49:15.789 --> 00:49:19.190
who's been knocked down already, we're going to see a
805
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.900
fighting back. That's the first thing that, that comes to mind.
806
00:49:24.019 --> 00:49:26.469
You know, we'll see this resurgence of people who got
807
00:49:26.550 --> 00:49:30.469
quiet trying to come back and maybe not in a
808
00:49:30.489 --> 00:49:33.889
great way, you know, trying to defend themselves in a
809
00:49:34.309 --> 00:49:38.679
ridiculous sort of way. Um, But yeah, I don't think
810
00:49:38.699 --> 00:49:43.699
we can escape conflict with the way things are lining up,
811
00:49:43.780 --> 00:49:47.440
you know? And with no earth, like there's zero earth
812
00:49:47.900 --> 00:49:50.920
in the equinox chart or that full moon chart at
813
00:49:50.940 --> 00:49:55.650
the end of the week. So everybody's nervous systems are
814
00:49:55.690 --> 00:49:59.690
like at a thousand and we're all sort of doing
815
00:49:59.750 --> 00:50:03.190
things from an emotional place. So I don't know. I
816
00:50:03.230 --> 00:50:08.260
really try not to think too hard about it. Because
817
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.980
it just feels like a lot. It feels passionate. It
818
00:50:13.019 --> 00:50:16.110
feels hot. It feels like fighting for maybe not the
819
00:50:16.139 --> 00:50:19.269
right things. What do you think?
820
00:50:21.289 --> 00:50:26.829
Well, I hadn't put this in the framework with the
821
00:50:26.929 --> 00:50:32.420
Scorpio energy. I've been thinking about Mars setting off the
822
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:38.150
basket again, going across the territory that that Jupiter was in.
823
00:50:38.250 --> 00:50:42.130
But now that I think about it, if you're as
824
00:50:42.230 --> 00:50:47.010
simplistic as Venus says, this is what I want, and
825
00:50:47.349 --> 00:50:50.349
tells Mars, go get it. But Mars is going to
826
00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:55.300
do things in a very grandiose way in Leo and
827
00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:01.519
maybe be more putting the attention more on what Mars
828
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.519
is doing than what Venus is quietly sitting there going,
829
00:51:04.579 --> 00:51:05.699
this is what I want.
830
00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:06.400
Yeah.
831
00:51:07.539 --> 00:51:09.179
Distraction measures for sure.
832
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:09.679
There we go.
833
00:51:09.699 --> 00:51:10.400
I can see that.
834
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:10.760
Yeah.
835
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.659
Yeah. There we go. Yeah. And I do believe that
836
00:51:13.780 --> 00:51:20.110
a number of already pending investigations, for want of a
837
00:51:20.190 --> 00:51:24.409
better word, are going to have a lot of look
838
00:51:24.449 --> 00:51:27.190
at me stuff going on rather than let's get to
839
00:51:27.230 --> 00:51:30.199
the bottom of what happened here. Agreed.
840
00:51:30.889 --> 00:51:33.239
But when it comes to relationships, just take a deep breath.
841
00:51:33.780 --> 00:51:37.639
Don't engage because it's going to be a lot of
842
00:51:38.099 --> 00:51:41.199
tense energy for sure for everybody. So don't take it
843
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:43.420
out on your partner if that's not who's the person
844
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.699
that needs to get it taken out on. That's all
845
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.619
I have to say about that.
846
00:51:49.659 --> 00:51:53.860
And the Venus retrograde is a really appropriate time to
847
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:58.179
take everything under advisement. Like, I'm just gathering data, just
848
00:51:58.219 --> 00:52:01.539
gathering data. Oh, I'm feeling strongly about this, but I'm
849
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:03.949
just going to hang on to it. and act on
850
00:52:03.989 --> 00:52:04.369
it later.
851
00:52:05.050 --> 00:52:07.750
That's right. That's right. I've said to people, if you're
852
00:52:07.769 --> 00:52:10.809
not a journal keeper, do that this time, just for
853
00:52:10.849 --> 00:52:13.489
the next few months, because you're going to, these themes
854
00:52:13.530 --> 00:52:15.469
are going to be around for a while. So if
855
00:52:15.510 --> 00:52:19.130
you know what's kicked up, you'll have some better, better
856
00:52:19.170 --> 00:52:20.719
information to work from anyways.
857
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:26.059
Oh, that's excellent advice. Well, which we're at the point
858
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.320
where it's, it's time to start wrapping up. So do you,
859
00:52:30.030 --> 00:52:33.070
do you have parting words besides that? Like just track
860
00:52:33.139 --> 00:52:35.139
what you're going through? Cause it'll make sense later.
861
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:36.099
Yeah.
862
00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:39.360
And, and I've been telling people like the 24 hour rule,
863
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.039
if you don't have to react right away and you
864
00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:46.219
can take a beat, just ground yourself and wait before
865
00:52:46.260 --> 00:52:49.239
you respond to things that piss you off, you know,
866
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:53.289
before you answer things that could have long consequences as,
867
00:52:53.449 --> 00:52:56.820
as everything's sort of moving into fixed signs. Everything's going
868
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.110
to stick around longer, you know, so it's gonna be
869
00:52:59.139 --> 00:53:04.110
harder to bury things under a rug. So just patience centered, grounded,
870
00:53:04.429 --> 00:53:04.949
take a breath.
871
00:53:06.889 --> 00:53:10.170
Excellent advice. Well, would you tell people where they can
872
00:53:10.210 --> 00:53:10.630
find you?
873
00:53:11.670 --> 00:53:18.679
Yeah. So I'm at consultthesky.com or tracyquinland.com. And yeah, those
874
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.340
are the two fastest, easiest places to find me. I'm
875
00:53:21.380 --> 00:53:27.739
on Instagram consultthesky.com. And Facebook, Consult the Sky as well. Okay.
876
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:30.059
Do you have a YouTube channel? Yes.
877
00:53:30.099 --> 00:53:32.530
Sky Notes Astrology is our YouTube channel.
878
00:53:33.489 --> 00:53:36.650
Yeah. All right. And you have a newsletter. So can
879
00:53:36.690 --> 00:53:39.010
people sign up and hear from you on a regular basis?
880
00:53:39.429 --> 00:53:43.130
Absolutely. I do a weekly astrology update. Plus today I
881
00:53:43.150 --> 00:53:46.030
put out a special edition for the equinox and the
882
00:53:46.070 --> 00:53:49.599
full moon. So, yep, I'm pretty regular with my newsletter
883
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.800
as well. And so if anybody is interested in a class,
884
00:53:53.619 --> 00:53:55.090
that information is all going to come out in the
885
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next couple months.
886
00:53:56.869 --> 00:53:59.550
Okay. All right. So if they sign up for your newsletter,
887
00:53:59.829 --> 00:54:03.889
they can get your weekly look at what's going on. Sorry,
888
00:54:03.929 --> 00:54:07.750
checking my timing here. We've got time. All right. Well,
889
00:54:07.949 --> 00:54:11.409
I really thank you for taking the time to come again.
890
00:54:11.449 --> 00:54:13.550
Would you lift your book one more time, everybody? This
891
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is a really readable book. I highly recommend it. Charting
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Love with Astrology, published by Llewellyn.
893
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Yep.
894
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.090
And thank you so much for taking the time to
895
00:54:25.130 --> 00:54:25.710
come and talk.
896
00:54:26.389 --> 00:54:28.250
Thank you so much for having me. This was so fun.
897
00:54:29.730 --> 00:54:33.130
Yeah, it was a great conversation. And everyone remember that
898
00:54:33.190 --> 00:54:38.590
my forecasts are at empowermentunlimited.net. And my YouTube channel is
899
00:54:38.670 --> 00:54:43.309
Professional Aquarian. And I have a Patreon, patreon.com slash Kathy
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Beal that has sassy daily forecasts. available starting with the
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lowest membership level and all kinds of other, did I
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say sassy, info for you. So we're in a really,
903
00:54:59.090 --> 00:55:03.909
tumultuous isn't quite the right word. Everyone's transforming. Everyone and
904
00:55:03.969 --> 00:55:08.679
everything is transforming. So please keep that in mind. Look
905
00:55:08.820 --> 00:55:13.869
at these combined retrogrades coming up as times to do
906
00:55:14.010 --> 00:55:17.530
incredible research and to be a detective and to go
907
00:55:17.610 --> 00:55:21.440
undercover and snoop maybe if that's an easier way to
908
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:25.699
keep things going and try not to take stuff personally
909
00:55:25.780 --> 00:55:28.320
but do know that at the Aries full moon there
910
00:55:28.340 --> 00:55:30.019
may be someone you want to punch out so be
911
00:55:30.260 --> 00:55:33.940
very careful where you are and make sure your aim
912
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:39.219
is good and you're fast yes and get out of
913
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:43.239
the way so that's right All right. Well, thank you, everybody.
914
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:47.239
Everyone be safe and I'll be back in two weeks.
915
00:55:47.300 --> 00:55:48.840
And thank you very much again, Tracy.
916
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:54.369
Thank you, Kathy. Thank you.
917
00:56:10.050 --> 00:56:40.099
Thank you. Thank you.