The Aquarius/Leo Nodes With Dabney Lawless

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What happens in the sky affects life down here on Earth.
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The Celestial Compass shows you how and guides your way
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with astrology you can use from professional astrologer Kathy Beeal.
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Every episode features her lighthearted, practical forecasts and navigational tips,
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blended with humor, optimism, and a love of patterns, symbolism,
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and pop culture references. Kathy translates technicalities into concepts that
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apply to real life. You'll learn how the current moment
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ties to where we've been, from the recent past to
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cycles that last happened years ago, and get a look
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at where we're heading and much more. From special topics
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to special guests, The Celestial Compass enlightening, entertaining, and empowering.
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Here's your host, Kathy Beeal.
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Greetings, are things Welcome to Celestial Compass. I'm Kathybil of
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Empowerment Unlimited dot net and the Professional Aquarium YouTube channel.
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And before we get into today's larger topic, which does
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have to do with the current astrology, how's that for
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a nice change? I do want to update a little
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bit about what is going on right now and a
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reminder you find you can find my forecasts for every
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month and every New and Full Moon at old times
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dot com and my forecast for every month new and
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full Moon and every week at my YouTube channel Professional Aquarium,
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and also my site Empowerment Unlimited dot net. August is
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a month of assimilating a lot of what has just happened.
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The three outermost planets are still traveling in sync, as
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they will be for the next several years, and this
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month the Sun joins up with them, and then Mercury
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joins up with them, meaning that we're going to get
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a lot more insight into what all of the big
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changes and rewiring of the middle of July might have meant.
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We'll get more information about it, and our minds are
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going to start to get on board with how our
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lives are evolving. Our social mode changes from Venus in
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fix it mode as we start the month, she's still
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kind of in the cleanup crew mode and an analytical
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let's see how it can make things better mode. Towards
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the end of the week, she moves into one of
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her home signs, Libra, and then when Mercury moves into
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Leo next week, especially at the end of the weekend,
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we're going to find that there's an air of sociability
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of people wanting to interact and do things with each
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other and maybe buring out ways they can actually get along.
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Venus is also going to be interacting with this outer
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planet configuration, and now our relationships and our desires and
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our values are going to start to also reshape themselves
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to match the different energies that are running through us
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and in fact through all of reality. The other big news, well,
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two more things. Mercury, which rules our communication, is finally
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clearing out of all that water from cancer. So his
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lengthy time from his retrograde is moving into like shaking
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the water off and we steam and then getting very
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very high energy, leading us into eclipse season. This month
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has the second of the eclipses on the Leo Aquarius axis.
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That's the Leo new Moon solar eclipse on the twelfth,
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which is a total eclipse. I see solar eclipses as
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not just a super sized new moon, but basically installing
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an upgraded operating system in everything things can leave. Think
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of what happens when your computer will install new software.
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Very frequently it happens behind your back. You don't always
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set it in motion, although sometimes you can, and the
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whole system goes down briefly and something with that will happen.
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People do leave under solar eclipses, and we're being catapulted
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into the directions of more and more authentic self expression.
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At the end of the month, the very end of
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the month, we have the next to last eclipse on
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the outgoing eclipse cycle, which are in the signs of
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Virgo and Pisces, and it is a lunar eclipse in Pisces,
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which I think is going to show us a lot
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about how our boundaries have overlapped with other pe people's
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ways in which we've soaked up other people's stuff. We
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might finally have the opportunity to come to grips with
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that phrase again, that concept again, assimilate and come to
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grips with the emotional ramifications of everything we've been through lately.
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Lunar eclipses do bring revelations, they do bring endings, and
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this one could be somewhat bitter sweet, but it's also
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part of cleaning up what we need to leave behind
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as we move ahead, which leads to today's topic, and
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that has to do with the nodes of the moon
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having moved from a Pisse's north node and Virgo south
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node to now an Aquarius north node and a Leo
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south node. And to help me make sense of this,
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I am welcoming evolutionary astrologer Dabney Lawless, who has been
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a guest before. Thank you so much for being here again.
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Thanks for rose to me, Kathy. It's always lovely to
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see you.
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Yeah. We always enjoyed. People have been excited when they've
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seen your my guests, like, oh I love this collaboration. Yay.
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Yeah, I know I need to have you back on
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my channels soon too, so because I like chatting with you.
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Yeah, we chat about fun stuff. So what's the role
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of the nodes of the moon. I mean, they're, for
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one thing, They're a mathematical point right there. They're not
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an actual thing. You can't look in the sky and
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see them.
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Yes, they and you know, I'm not even going to
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pretend like I can explain what the ecliptic is. But
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they are a point on the ecliptic between the Sun
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and the Moon. They have to do with our karma
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and the South node versus the North node. It's kind
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of one of these things that different schools of astrology
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have slightly different interpretations. As an evolutionary astrologer. I've been
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really taught to look at the south note as something
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we're really leasing, something that we bring in gifts from
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the past, whether it's your past in this incarnation or
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other incarnations or in sister lineage. But the South node
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has to do with something we've done before, so it
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just comes really naturally to us. And the North node
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is a little bit more about where your soul wants
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to go in this lifetime. So the North node is
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what we're reaching for, but it takes consciousness. It's not
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as automatic as the South node. So the South note
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is something we live and breathe, we get it, we've
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done it. The North node is like kind of the
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lessons we're learning in this lifetime, and it gives you
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kind of the if you look at the shadow of
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the South node, you want to release the shadow, And
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if you look at the positive things about the North node,
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that's kind of you know, what you're looking to integrate.
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Another way that I also add into this is with
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the South node. I see that often as being your
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default behavior, like when you get under stress, this is
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where you go, this is what you do, This is
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what comes naturally in the North node I usually say,
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has a sign saying this way to the future. It's
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what you're moving toward, and how you're going to take
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what you do with the south node and move it
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into something else. Now, how is it different when we're
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talking about the collective impact? I mean, it's one thing
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to look at your own chart and go, Okay, this
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is what my notes say. What does it mean for
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the collective?
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Yeah. So one of the things that I think it's
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important to realize is it's different than you know when
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you look at your own individual chart. Everybody born within
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a certain like you know, eighteen months of when you
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were born, give or take, has the same north and
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south NOE. So you know, in your second grade class,
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most of those kids, not all, but most of those
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kids probably were, you know, working with the same north
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and south note. So it's not one of these things
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like the moon that can change every few days or
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mercury that changes every few weeks. It's one of these
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things that in your own individual chart, you're working on
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it with a cohort of people that were born around
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the same year you were. And how it's unique to
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you happens to be what house placement its in and
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how it interacts with the rest of the planets. That
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helps to kind of round out the whole story. Like
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you can look at the ruler of your south node
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and see what you know. If your south node is
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in Gemini like mine, I look to Mercury, is yours too?
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Oh yeah, we're doing our sad north note by chatting, yeah,
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talking astrology. So here, you know, you can kind of
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learn a little bit more about yourself now. One of
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the also little shortcuts I should say is like north node,
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north star, right, what is your north star? What is
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the thing that's like guiding you forward? Like you said,
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there's kind of like a sign that says future this way.
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So when it's in the collective, that means that everybody
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on the planet right now is experiencing a south node
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in Leo and a north node in Aquarius, and how
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we experience that is going to be different than our
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own individual north and south nodes. So a baby born
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today is going to have a South node in Leo, right,
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and then that will be part of their personal story.
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But this is the collective story. It's how we are
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going to as a world release the themes of the
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south node that are no longer serving us or we're
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going to kind of reflexively do them, and it will
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likely be somewhat toxic, because that's what happens when you
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are just stuck in your self node, you kind of
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act out the shadow of it. And so this is
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going to be kind of a doozy of one. You know,
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you can see in your own life which eclipses and
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which north node South node configurations are more of a
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trigger in your own personal chart. But I think today
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we're going to be talking more about what the world
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can expect and the collective.
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So the south note interesting, So south node in Leo
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gold gold being put on statues that belong.
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To the guild statues.
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Yes, gilded statues. The rise of fake royalty all over
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place against the people. I mean, there's the dichotomy here
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of of.
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The people for ten versaill with ballrooms and you know,
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arches and you know, kind of this mimicking of and
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it's really funny because you know, taking the astrology of
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the eclipses and the nodes out of the equation, you know,
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we do have this kind of throwback energy to you know,
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the American and French revolutions as well with the placement
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of Uranus and areas in Neptune. So it's Pluto and Aquarius.
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You know, well, last month Jupiter in Leo now the
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South node, opposed Pluto and Aquarius now the North node,
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and that set up a dynamic in a couple of
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ways that was in place in October seventeen eighty nine
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speaking of the French Revolution. So we've experienced historically the
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dichotomy of monarchy or people like where is power and
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power being going in different directions, and now we have
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now the nodes. We just had this opposition in the
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middle of July, and then at the end of July
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the notes moved and now we're all dealing with what
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this means. So anything you care to add to that,
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please have at it.
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Yeah. So, I mean it's interesting because last month everyone
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was talking about the Barbos basket and like, you know,
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there was a sort of like hopeful energy, and I
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think most people experienced July is somewhat of a stressful month.
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It was just another month of you know, kind of
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blowing out norms and feeling like, you know, once again
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there's climate crisises with the fires in Europe, and so
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there's just all of these kind of things, and so
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you start to think, like, what is the breakthrough. But
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I think part of the breakthrough that what I'm seeing
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is the the expose. Let's call it that, the expose,
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the you know, the all of these things that are happening.
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This is just starting right. This is going to be
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the outer plants are going to be dancing together harmoniously
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for you know, many years. And I think what they're
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doing right now is they are talking and saying like,
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we need to show people what's really going on. People
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need to experience this because we're moving in a new direction.
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So there wasn't this like up level of you know,
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sudden consciousness. I don't think across the universe, but I
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do think that there's an increased awareness. And unfortunately, what
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I'm seeing is that awareness often comes when people are
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pushed to a crisis point. As humans, we tend to
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want to just escape by I think things are okay. Now,
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that's not everybody, But if we're talking collective, you know,
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life's hard and we don't want to see you know,
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terrible things happening to young women being trafficked. We don't
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want to see the reality of climate change. We don't
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want to see some of these things because they're scary
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and we feel helpless, and so it's better to just
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kind of blinders on and do the dishes and you know,
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deal with your life. But I think there's an opening
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of the crisis points that are then bringing people to
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that level of awareness that can help catapults us forward.
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I'm also seeing in tandem with that, people kind of
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deciding that they're just going to be who they are,
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I mean, giving zero f's like okay, it's time, and
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living in a more bold and brazen way. I said
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this to a client earlier today. I hate what's happened
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to the word authentic, but it does apply to what
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is being awakened in people. Now there's a you know,
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like does go do, go be yourself, Go do what
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you're gonna do. And all these people doing what they're
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gonna do heading in the same direction, I think are
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going to ultimately have an extremely positive impact. It'll probably
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take years to really see it, but honestly, I think
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last month we did we crest the hill, we went
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over the hill, like Okay, now the collapse is starting,
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and it just seems to be spreading and spreading and
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spreading and spreading and I forget who I've read. I've
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bet read so much on this, but an astrologer who
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does not operate under a name, but a moniker or something.
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It's talked about the seeds that are already being planted
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in the midst of all this, and I'm seeing this everywhere.
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I agree with that. I agree with that one hundred percent.
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And let's talk about the word authentic, because that, to
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me is the aquarious axis. But that's a really hard
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thing to wrap our heads around. And so I've been
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doing a lot of thinking about this, like what does
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it take to become authentic? And you know, we may
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think you're, you know, you've got aquarian energy, so maybe
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you're you know, you're a little further ahead than the
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rest of us. But you know, I think that we
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all believe we're being authentic most of the time. But
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we are conditioned. We have roles, we have masks that
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we wear in polite society, we have the rules that
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we have to follow at work. We and you know,
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to a great degree, this is what holds society together, right,
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I mean, like you have to on some level. But
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when there's a betrayal of the cell, that is where
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authenticity falls by the wayside, and Leo energy, which is
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the south node, is very well conditioned, is very good
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at playing that role. You know, Leo is known for
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being a fantastic actor or actress, and so part of
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this energy is looking in our own lives and thinking like,
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what is truly not ours? What is the role we've
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been conditioned to play? And so, for example, and you
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look to your son, because the son is the ruler
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of Leo. So look to your son and you think,
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this is my ego, this is who I identify as.
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So for myself, I'm a cancer, okay, cancer in the
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seventh House. So I play the role of a cancer
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in the seventh House quite often. I'm very kind and
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compassion and motherly and loving. But what also comes with
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that is self sacrifice. You know. Maybe some of this
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kind of energy where passive aggressive energy where I'm you know,
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not really happy about doing something, but I feel like
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I'm conditioned to do it. I'm the woman, I'm the mother,
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that's my role, right, So look to your own son
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and say, like, what's the role that I'm playing versus
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the authenticity? What's the obligation I feel? What's the pull
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that I've been conditioned versus what helps me feel alive.
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And that doesn't mean that I'm not authentically a cancer
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in the seventh House, but I know that there's layered
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onto that rules that I've learned and behavior that I
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act because that that's who I am. Right, Does that
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make sense?
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It does? And I am seeing some people, especially online,
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change the way they present themselves because they've been presenting
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information in a way that they thought they had to
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that for you to listen to me, I must do one, two, three.
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And some people have hit the wall and gone, that's it,
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and they're just kind of casually talking, and their impact
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is so much greater because their real voice is coming
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through what they're saying. And that I think is part
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of what is on offer for everybody right now to
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stop playing the role kind of what you were saying
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and just let your own self come out more.
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Yeah, and you know if you are and you can
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see this a lot in like congregations or at work,
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or you know, places where there are certain you know,
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social norms and behavior, and just test yourself where it's like,
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oh is that my truth? Do I really believe this?
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Or is this what I have to do? To get
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by or to make other people like me, or whatever
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the case may be. And I think we're just starting
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this journey this year, and so I think there is
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this opportunity for people to break free and become more
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authentically themselves. But I think that if you just say
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become more authentically yourself, I think that there's enough people
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out there that already think they're being authentically themselves where
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and this is a time where we're actually challenged to
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question that and go a level deeper.
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I just want to remind everyone that if you're listening
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to this, you have lived through this nodal cycle at
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least once, probably several times. We had a north node
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and Aquarius was it to thousand and seven to two
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thousand and nine, and then in the early nineties. Is
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that the other time? And I didn't take it back
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further than that, But this time is different because of
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the dance of the outer planet. So you can look
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at what happened in the ninety seven to two thousand
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and seven to two thousand and nine period, which interestingly
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coincides with when I moved and I am now moving again,
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and various other things that happened also coinciding with that,
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I'm actually spilling personal details in my forecast, which I
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never ever ever used to do, but they seem to
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be giving information to people, So that's what I'm doing
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at any rate. So the current time, now that it's gone,
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now that the notes have moved into Aquarius and Leo again,
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it's on the heels of this massive rewiring that involved
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the signs of Aquarius and Leo in the middle of July.
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So it's a very different story.
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It's really interesting to see. And you know, in Barack
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Obama was a Leo, and you know he was elected
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during that time. That was the time where everyone was
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really seeking change, right, Remember that was like the big
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slogan in our country in the US was change. And
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part of the reason he lost popularity after the first
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couple of years was because people didn't feel like they
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saw that change. And so I think that we're in
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another change time where you know, let's look at other
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Leo seuth Node themes again, looking at the shadow of Leo.
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So if you are Leo married to Leo, my sons
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Leo loved the Leo, Gotta Mars and Leo. But every
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sign is a shadow, and the shadow of Leo is performance,
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but not performance from a place of it's a performance
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to please others, right, It's a performance for approval versus
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performance from the heart. So when you're in a performance state,
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if you're a Leo, you might be quite dramatic. Mars
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and Leo. I love to perform, but it's got to
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come from the heart to be that kind of authenticity.
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So performance not you know, for seeking approval or seeking applause.
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There is the elite leaders, people who are put on
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a pedestal in some way and are better than right,
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Leo historically is tied to royalty. Okay, so we think
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about who is the modern royalty, and you know, for
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most of my life the modern royalty was Hollywood. That
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has shifted significantly, and I think that has a lot
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to do with Pluto going on Quarius. But we're going
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to see that accelerating that the people that we held
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on high are going to fall off that pedestal because
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that's not what we're supposed to be doing right now.
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What we're supposed to be doing right now is honoring
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that the individual is not everything. So you know, naming
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an airport after yourself, building a monument to yourself, these
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things are really antithetical to what the karmic energy is
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requiring of us at this time. And so those people
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who are just using their power for selfish purposes, and
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selfish unfortunately is also a very late le O shadow
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word and can be narcissism, can be gaudy, you know, showy,
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wanting attention at all times. You know, someone constantly that
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needs to be in front of the camera. This is
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a time of really kind of simplifying, getting back to
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what is real, what what is the aquarian high? Aquarius
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is you know, humanitarian, unique ideas, celebrating that which is different,
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celebrating diversity, progressive ideals, not necessarily progressive politics, but progressive ideals, democracy,
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things that give take centralized power and make a diffuse, which.
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Is completely in keeping with seventeen eighty nine when Jupiter
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and Pluto opposed each other with I believe wasn't Neptune
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in Ares when that happened. I could be wrong.
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So I want to say that it's like they're looking
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at like a big mirror in all.
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Ye and women push the monarchy out of the palace.
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Well, here's the one thing I'm going to say, because
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I'm doing a lot of research on this because I'm
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going to be doing something about these revolutions because we're
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in disruptionary energy. Interesting thing throughout history of revolutions is
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they don't really have any forward momentum or progress until
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the lower level elites, like the people who are elite,
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feel like they're not getting theirs, like they're the ones
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pushed to the edge. So like we have things like
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Occupy Wall Street where you really had people who had
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very little to nothing and they had no power, they
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were not influential enough. But suddenly when the people who
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are adjacent to the court or even inside the court
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but are not the rulers, feel like they're not getting theirs,
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that's when we suddenly see a sea change and these
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revolutions actually have power behind them to make a difference.
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So it's really fascinating.
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Welcome all and my shoe well before you abuse criticience
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Welcome out shoes, Welcome back to celestial compass. I'm talking
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today with evolutionary astrologer Dabney Lawless, and we're talking about
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the nodes now being in Aquarius and Leo. And just
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before the break, Dabney was starting to hint at her
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research that she's been doing about when revolutions finally gained momentum.
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Yeah, so you know, you can look back at the
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you know, looking at the French Revolution or even looking
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at the revolution in the United States. What ends up
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happening is the moneyed class is being pressured or squeezed
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or they feel like there's something being taken away from
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them from the uber uber top elite, whether it's the
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crown or in our case, like the billionaires. It's funny
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because there's only like a few hundred billionaires, but they're
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you know, a ton of millionaires, right, believe it or not.
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And I just read an article the other day about
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how the millionaires in San Francisco are furious at the
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billionaires because they can't afford homes anymore. They can't because
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everything's being like vacuumed up by them, and that does
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seem to be sort of a tipping point is when
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the economies of these countries have been run into the
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grounds because of wars, foreign wars, and they're in debt,
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tremendous debt due to foreign wars. And then they, in
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order to raise money, raise taxes. The elite will not
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let you raise taxes, so then they do things like tariffs,
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and tariffs tend to be another big theme. So you know,
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all of a sudden, now the people who are you know,
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still of a ruling class, but not the rulers right, like,
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not the tippy top, but the like, you know, one
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down from the pyramid. They're being pressured through things like
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tariffs and you know, the threat of taxes and things
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like that. And that's when they get everybody under them
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riled up there. And it's not that hard to do
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because it, you know, it is that pyramid. There's so
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many more of them. But the people down below have
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already been struggling for ten years or more at the
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point at which there is a tipping point. So I
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00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.839
say all this related to the nodes because I think
481
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what we're looking at is this south node in Leo
482
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:50.480
moment where even the elite are being squeezed to then
483
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:59.720
employ the masses. I'm not advocating revolution. I'm just looking
484
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.240
at the history and it's amazing how how what we
485
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:09.359
are experiencing now with debt for and wars, tariffs and
486
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.079
the elite refusing to raise taxes on themselves even though
487
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.359
the country is desperately in need, and then we get
488
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:27.200
these circumstances that are just ripe for a massive change.
489
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.759
Which I think is coming. But that's just me now
490
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.400
and off here, let's talk more about the North Node though.
491
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.599
So we've we've been talking a lot about the look
492
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:41.160
at me kind of selfish tantrum. You know, I am
493
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:45.000
important and the rest of you are just you. You
494
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.920
live to serve me kind of mentality that we're moving
495
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.039
away from. Or that is the toxin that's being exposed,
496
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.519
however you want to look at it and a footnote.
497
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.599
You know, when when people go to role playing places
498
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.440
like a few want to go to a place that
499
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.200
is role playing Downton Abbey or something. Nobody wants to
500
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.639
be the scullery crew. No one wants to play the
501
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.159
role of the kitchen crew. They all want to be
502
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.800
the nobility. Okay, would you go role play like that,
503
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.599
So think about that. Who wants to be used to
504
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.840
be upstairs downstairs? That's really dating myself, although I think
505
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.239
it was a lot more interesting downstairs on that show. Okay,
506
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.760
so back to the north note. What do you see
507
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.119
as the possibilities with the north note in Aquarius? And
508
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.800
again we do have some earlier cycles we can look at,
509
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.800
but I think this is different because of what we've
510
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:40.400
just been.
511
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:44.800
Through, right, I think that it is kind of looking
512
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.599
at and I'm no expert on like the Saro cycles
513
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.920
and things like that, there's like kind of larger cycles
514
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.559
that take that we can take into consideration about what
515
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.880
are the sort of tipping points, what are the echoes
516
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.800
and history. But if we look at north note and
517
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.239
Aquarius energy, okay, looking at the last time, that's when
518
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.079
Obamacare was was released, right, So that's an example of
519
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.280
something where something that was reserved only for a certain
520
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.119
class of people was in some ways opened up to
521
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:28.280
other people. Now that no matter what you think of that,
522
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:34.679
it did shift the way that ensurance was run. So
523
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.000
I don't I'm never this sort of idealistic person in
524
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.239
let's say that we have this sort of revolutionary energy
525
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.280
in the air, we have to understand that after these
526
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:54.639
big moments of change in history, there often comes you know, chaos, fallout,
527
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:01.360
you know, a reorganization and aquarium energy. Like, let's look
528
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.599
at the high side of aquarius energy. It's new ideas.
529
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:09.239
It's it's thinking big picture, it is what's going to
530
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.000
be good for everybody. It's it's space, it's astrology, it's
531
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:23.039
you know, it is ideas because it is an air sign, right,
532
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.280
So it's in the head. So what you lack sometimes
533
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:32.079
with aquarium energy is the heart, you know. It's it's
534
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.480
like we get into this mindset of well, okay, so
535
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:38.800
this is going to be the new plan. This is
536
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.639
you know, what we're going to do, and this is
537
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.159
going to be good for everybody.
538
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:42.440
Right.
539
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.519
So Obamacare, for example, was supposed to be good for people, doctors,
540
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.960
and insurance companies, right, But did they really think about
541
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.559
the psychology of the insurance companies and you know, the
542
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.679
different And so this is just an example because I'm
543
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.960
no way of bashing Obamacare. I'm very great for the
544
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.960
changes it brought. That said, I think we can all
545
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:08.519
look back and say like, wow, we didn't anticipate that happening.
546
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.800
And so I think that and so and that's it, right, Like,
547
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.320
I think there are a lot of things we can't anticipate,
548
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.639
and there can be some degree of austerity and sort
549
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.280
of like cutting things off where like let's say you're
550
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.679
like an HR director, Right, that's very kind of aquarium
551
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.760
profession where you have to do what's right for everybody,
552
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.840
but sometimes that comes at the very personal cost, right,
553
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.159
And so I think that we need to sort of
554
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.760
think about the fact that this is an opportunity to
555
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.119
have big ideas, this is an opportunity to be strategic,
556
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:54.440
but we can't completely lose the individual as things are
557
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.480
being rebuilt and remade, because if they're just being remade
558
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.519
for the sake of everybody, then you get this kind
559
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.960
of utopia, dystopia, confusion.
560
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.280
I don't know what that. Well, then the French Revolution
561
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:16.239
certainly taught us that it can get really messy. And
562
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.440
now another way of another thing that is possible with
563
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.519
the North note in Aquarius, it's more of an emphasis
564
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.920
on collective action, on people coming together and doing things together.
565
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:33.960
And I actually saw an absolutely normal person, a muggle.
566
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.639
She probably hated if she knew. I called her that
567
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.800
on Facebook, saying, Hey, I'm thinking about how much everything
568
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.800
is costing, and I'm wondering, like, should a bunch of
569
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:43.880
us just go buy a big piece of land and
570
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.400
figure out how we could live together? And people are
571
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.599
seriously talking about it, and I'm like, well, isn't this interesting.
572
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.000
That's a very Pluto inaquarius thing, like how can we
573
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:54.440
create a community?
574
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.960
Yeah, And I you know, I love to I spent
575
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.280
twenty five years in PR so I read a lot
576
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.440
of news and I really do keep and I have
577
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.400
yearned this on the mid heaven, so I keep my
578
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.960
favor on the of Sorry, my cat's about to go
579
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.199
to the vent, so if you hear her crying, she's.
580
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:12.480
Must been realizing.
581
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.079
So but what I was saying is there's a new
582
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.559
it's not new trend. It's almost like a course correction
583
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:29.480
that there are more multi generational homes again, and it's
584
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:33.519
being born of necessity. But in some ways it's really
585
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.559
a return to how things were prior to the nineteen
586
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:41.079
forties nineteen fifties post World War Two era, where there
587
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:47.519
was kind of this suburban flight and everyone had their
588
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.880
own kingdom. Pluto was an equipment and Leo. Everyone had
589
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.440
their own castle and their own backyard, and we all
590
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.480
closed it off. Whereas before we sat on the front
591
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.360
porch and we talked to our neighbors and we kept
592
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.760
an eye out for one another. And instead now it's
593
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.840
like you have a backyard, not a front porch. And
594
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.480
so I think it's kind of the return to the
595
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.159
front porch is a little bit. What I'm getting is
596
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.480
that this is this opportunity for us to recognize that
597
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.239
we may be pushed into financial for financial reasons or
598
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.400
just because we choose this. More multi generational homes again,
599
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:31.320
more community coming together and supporting one another. We're seeing
600
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.760
like the tremendous backlash against the data centers, and that
601
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:42.000
is bringing red and blue people together because they now
602
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:47.199
have this common like the king is, you know, the billionaire,
603
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.639
the king, the whatever you want to call him, is
604
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:55.400
stealing from all of us. Right. So again, people who
605
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.840
may have been marginalized in the past, fighting against polluted
606
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.920
waters in their backyard or you know, that didn't have
607
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:10.199
the same effect as when suddenly middle class people from
608
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.320
all you know, political and religious backgrounds are being impacted
609
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.639
by what the king is doing.
610
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.639
And it is fascinating how it's common ground. It is
611
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.280
absolutely common ground, and I'm seeing in my neck of
612
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.880
the woods. There are a couple of towns that started
613
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.079
to make deals and the citizen re got a hold
614
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.840
of it and made a huge stink. So things backed off.
615
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.920
And now the data center warehouse owners or would be
616
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:46.119
warehouse owners are filing lawsuits against the towns, and the
617
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.800
towns are backpedaling, and the citizens are speaking out even
618
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.880
more and more and more. And I just sit back
619
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.000
and watching wow, like I would have never thought this
620
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.599
would happen, and never.
621
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.760
Thought with the private to see what the cameras that
622
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.000
are going up all over the country. And so again
623
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.119
here all of a sudden, it's not just impacting poor people,
624
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.760
it's impacting all of us. And we are also at
625
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:18.679
a breaking point too, where we all sort of realize
626
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:24.880
that it's becoming unsustainable to survive. So whereas somebody might
627
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.639
be okay if like the bottom, you know, because there's
628
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.079
always a reason why, and it's very quarry, and to
629
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.840
actually open your eyes and be like, oh, wow, that
630
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:42.559
impacts all of us. And so we can't just have everybody,
631
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:47.400
you know, have their food stamps cut, because then they
632
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.320
crime may go up or whatever the you know, the
633
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.320
thing may be there becomes this new awareness of how
634
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.400
interconnected we all are. And I think we're seeing that
635
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.159
you can't put the g back in the bottle as
636
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.760
far as globalism is concerned, as hard as you know
637
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:10.960
anyone would try, Ultimately we are this one world and
638
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.159
the aquarian energy, I think, is going to make that
639
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.000
that much more apparent.
640
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.719
Now when you said how interconnected we are, that reminded
641
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.840
me we haven't talked about what we're moved away from.
642
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.679
So how is a Pisce's North node, which kind of
643
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.079
like a lot dunked us in. Everybody else's stuffed to
644
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.239
some extent. But how's that different than the aquarian is
645
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.079
the aquarium like we go sitting in the sit on
646
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.079
the branch of the tree and look down on it.
647
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.920
We all are commander data from star Trek, or at
648
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.119
least that's on offer for us.
649
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.199
I think that there is this growing awareness that we
650
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.559
need one another. I think that's a very aquarium thing
651
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.239
that you know you can't necessarily do it alone. You
652
00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:01.199
do need the community to make change. Just I think
653
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.840
the way I was looking at the Virgo South node
654
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:10.559
Pisce's North Node, very much to me, was about the
655
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.880
recognition of letting go of control and letting go of
656
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.840
our preconceived notions of how things should be and that
657
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.920
we couldn't fix it. We just it got too big.
658
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.119
We can't fix it. So things get to the point
659
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.400
where it is too big and you can't fix it,
660
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.400
and no matter how hard you try, you're just spinning
661
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.880
yourself up into an anxious state. The antidote for that
662
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.800
is really a much more compassionate place. It's a much
663
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.599
more loving place. It's a much more place of surrender
664
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:47.239
and kind of recognizing that there's something bigger at work
665
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:51.719
and we have to kind of pay deference to that
666
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.119
on some levels. And that didn't necessarily mean check out.
667
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.920
And I don't think a lot of the high side
668
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.559
of Pisces was was met. I do think there was
669
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.000
a lot of anxiousness, control, worry, like those are the
670
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:13.239
dark Virgo, this shadow. But I think that's ultimately where
671
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.360
I came to, was like, oh, Okay, this is bigger
672
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.079
than me. It's out, it's completely out of my control,
673
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:30.280
and until the tide turns, I have to surrender and
674
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.599
that and that. However, now now the tide is turned,
675
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:41.119
and so it's less about surrender and it's more about Okay,
676
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:46.960
what's next. It's more about that future looking it's it's
677
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.880
less of that like, oh my god, it's gonna be
678
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.960
We're either gonna all die or you know, like now
679
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.840
there's sort of more of this like almost like utopian
680
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.880
like Okay, we can make we can have medicare for all,
681
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.679
we can you know, whatever the case may be. I
682
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.880
think the pendulum is starting to swing, and this again
683
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.440
is not even just about politics. I think it's about
684
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.239
everything that we see in our lives where it's almost
685
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:18.320
like we had to regroup because it felt like everything
686
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:25.199
just fell apart, and now we have to kind of
687
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.639
regroup and say, like who do I care about? What
688
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.239
do I care about? What are my values? Okay? Who
689
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.199
is like minded that I can partner with? And where
690
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.400
can I make a difference? What do you think?
691
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.880
I am certainly seeing little subgroups forming and recognizing how
692
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.039
much they appreciate each other. And I have several disparate
693
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:54.639
ones in my life and they've been quietly forming and rearranging,
694
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:57.760
and they aren't the people I've been largely hanging out
695
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.480
with in recent years. But it's kind of mutated into
696
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:08.119
a different direction and I'm watching people offer help, step
697
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.639
up just take I don't know, start planning things. It's
698
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.519
and I'm seeing it in it's happening some for my clients,
699
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.760
and I think that it happens on a small scale,
700
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.039
and then the little links start forming a chain and
701
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.159
they start making bigger and bigger and bigger chains of
702
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:32.280
interconnected arms or people doing things together. I mean, there's
703
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.119
been a big organizational element in a lot of the
704
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:41.519
political protests against against the data centers and against what's
705
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:45.199
happening at detention centers and what ICE is doing on
706
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.639
the streets. That's been going on for a while. But
707
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.039
I'm noticing a shift in how all of that is
708
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:58.400
working as well, and almost like a canniness coming into
709
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:03.599
the picture and not just stand there holding signs and experience,
710
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.639
because there's thing you're going to get shot if you're
711
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:06.960
not careful about how you do this.
712
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.800
So the prayering is energy, is very intelligent, it's beyond
713
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.559
it's forward thinking to the point where it's like ahead
714
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.159
of its time. And Pisces, on the other hand, is
715
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:24.039
more like, Okay, can't we all just love each other
716
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.039
because all this is ridiculous, like none of this matters.
717
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.400
And I think we did a lot of us got
718
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.320
to this point of even though we knew it all mattered,
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it's like it's happening anyway. It's almost like a throw
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your hands up sort of energy and then you know,
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focus in on love and like you know, and I
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did see people on a very one to one basis
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have some personal growth during the Pisces Urgo North and
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South notes. I do think this is a much more
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collective energy and what I think we are going to
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see a lot of which is going to tip the
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scales and change things in a much more dramatic way
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in some ways is because Leo is very dramatic, and
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we have Jupiter and Leo, and so Jupiter is going
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to magnify all this energy and Jupiter is going to
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really be I've been playing a lot with the idea
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of like the death of ego, where we need to
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look at our own shadow. You know, the sun hides
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the shadow, and that means we have to get outside
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of our ego, the need to be right, the need
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to be the center of the world, and for some
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people that's going to be really, really hard, and that
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is where we're going to see kind of some of
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these people who are on a pedestal, whether it's Brad
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Pitt and you know, falling from grace or you know,
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insert celebrity.
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Here, right, I thought another one.
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Yeah, yeah, so and then and then we've got, you know,
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obviously the political realm where that's going to be juicy
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with all sorts of tales to tell. And I do
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think the aquarium energy is like, no, we're not all
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about these men who are going to control this tiny
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bit and make everyone else's life challenging. I think people
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are going to be coming up against it. I think
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a lot of people with Pluto and Leo, that generation
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is going to be faced with having to look at
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the shadow of Leo in a new way and see
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how the world has changed and how their role may
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have helped propel really good things that are coming back
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into fashion. But how it's it's like a totally different ballgame, right,
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And so again, like art is going to come into play,
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it has to come into play. But maybe some of
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the artists or influencers who have been everybody's you know,
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number one, all of a sudden, like we are going
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to see their shadow.
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Oh I, We're starting to see that creeping into the
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news and the disclosure, right, and left. Well, here's another
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way that I synthesize all this. It's my little Leo lecture,
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or it comes from it, and that is possibly we
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will come to value our own unique self expression more
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and not waste it on the people who don't get it.
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Maybe this that, maybe one gift of this particular nodal
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access is finding communities that are not so much like
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minded but mutually appreciative, where there's there's support and growth
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on both sides. It isn't just one person everyone honor me,
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worship me, but instead or somebody sitting, you know, sitting
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there throwing a temper tantrum. We're doing just ridiculous shenanigans
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to try to get attention really big in the theater community.
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I've witnessed more than my share of that one. So
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I think it's going to encourage actually functioning small groups
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of people where people do things for each other and
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it's mutually supportive and mutually expressive. And I've got a
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couple of these and they're just amazing.
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I love it. I love it. It made me think
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of the movie Rome and Michelle's high school Reunion. I
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remember that movie that's full sweaters, right, So for those
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who who know it's just this, you know, silly movie,
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but I actually really liked it. And one of the women,
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Romy wanted to be popular in high school, and Michelle,
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on the other hand, was like along for the ride,
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and she kind of later in life says to her like,
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I didn't care that we weren't popular. I just had
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fun with you, like you made me laugh, like we
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had fun together. It didn't matter like what was happening.
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But Romy was so caught up with being popular, and
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so that sort of reminded me of that energy where
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it's like, oh, yeah, I don't care that I don't
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get to sit at the cool kids table. Right. It's
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just like I'm going to make my own cool kids
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table and have fun.
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Right. That's been the way I've lived. Everybody welcome aboard.
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It's yeah, son, I assume.
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Yeah, self amusing personalities, unite, Okay, go do it.
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And unfortunately in my chart, and I was the one
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who was like, but I want to be popular, why don't.
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You like me?
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So you know, yes, Kathy is going to lead us
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to where.
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We're going, and that means go do what you want
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to do and don't do what I'm doing unless it
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fits what you want to do. But with that, we're
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coming to an end because they're near the end of
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the hour. Thank you so much for hanging out again.
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Would you please tell people where they can find you.
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You can find me at Lawless Astrology dot com and
811
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you can get on my mailing list. I don't email
812
00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:21.079
that often, and you get a free astrology work book
813
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.440
that is if you're new to astrology or you just
814
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want to understand it a little better. And also on YouTube,
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just you know, look me up Lawless Astrology and I
816
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.440
interview all sorts of cool astrologers and then I sort
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00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.159
of do my own. We'll take on forecasts and I
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talk about things like Rome and Michelle's high school reunion.
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Well, popular culture fits into understanding astrology because astrology is symbolism. Yes.
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Oh, and I'm going to be at UAC, so if
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you're there, say hi to me.
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That's the United Astrology Conference people, and it's in Chicago
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this year. Yep.
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Then I'll be September seventh.
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I'm speaking excellent, excellent, Well, thank you very very much.
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I'm sure we'll have many more conversations in the near
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future about all kinds of things, and everybody strap in
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there and go be your own unique self. That's what
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I say. Okay, talk to you in a couple of weeks.
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Bye now bye, Thanks Kathy, thank you,