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Welcome to season four of Casual Camping Podcast, your home for the best camping discussion both in and out of the field.
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Here are your hosts, Tim and Aid.
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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Casual Camping Podcast.
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I am Tim.
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Nice to see you, everybody.
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An anime.
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It wouldn't be uh a show without punch.
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So uh yeah.
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Wouldn't be a punch up without punch.
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Never been really punchy, but you know.
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No, no, no.
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Well unless there's rum.
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No, I don't even get I don't even get punchy.
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I've never been punchy.
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I'm not a punchy person.
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It's um I'm uh I'm a I'm a I'm a hugger, not a fighter.
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Yeah, yeah, me too, really.
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Um so how have you been?
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I've I've been alright.
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I've been on holiday.
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Oh get out of town.
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I did.
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I did.
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I got out of I got out of town.
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Got out the country.
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Got out the country, I did, and uh and got myself some sun in that there Mallorca.
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Ah um was Mallorca good?
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Majorca was was hot, um warm but not not too hot, but was warm and sunny and uh and just very very relaxing.
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I I feel like I need a holiday, but it's my busy season, so I'm busy.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You are you are sweeping, sweeping like there's no tomorrow, really, aren't you?
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Well, yeah, even though there is a tomorrow and uh stuff, but you know, uh I think it links in quite nicely.
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Uh of be prepared, be prepared with your chimneys, but also we're talking about preparedness within.
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Um you know, there's loads of stuff on on the radio, it's certainly here in the UK about preparedness, and there is a government website of preparedness, what uh what people should uh do, and I think there's a lovely crossover between uh being prepared and being a camper.
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And uh Mrs.
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Sweep said to me, Uh, uh, are we are we prepared?
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Now I kind of had to give her a good dressing down.
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Who the heck do you think you're talking to, young lady?
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Of course we're prepared.
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I batch cook, we freeze stuff, we've got tins uh in the cupboard, we we've got a lot of stuff, and should electric go down, I've got power back, should I've got solar panels, we've got gas, we've got quite a lot of gas uh in various sort of forms.
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Um, because you gave me a big canister ages ago.
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That's down the bottom of the garden.
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But I do need to get a proper valve for that, I wouldn't be able to get the gas out of it.
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But you know, it's being being prepared, you know.
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That that's the thing, and I think it's really interesting that there's stuff on Radio 4 about it, and there was a guy from the department of preparedness that had done it in he'd done this big announcement in early July and it had fallen flat, so he'd come and done it again, and uh it makes me nervous as to why is a department doing that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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They're uh they're they're they're worried that there's something on the horizon, haven't they?
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I mean, I um I've been a bit of a prepper um for many, many years.
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So not not like you know having a bunker somewhere, although secretly I'd like a bunker somewhere.
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But you know I've got a bunker tent.
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You could have one too, find it on eBay.
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Have you listed it?
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I'm hoping by the time of recording this that it's old Tim.
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Oh man, oh man.
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It's uh you are you are relentless, you are relentless.
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It's uh like Thanos inevitable all tents will go eventually all of them.
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Is that is that Thanos with his tiny arms?
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It's like Jeff Broly with his tiny Thanos arms.
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Oh god.
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Uh I like the way that these uh these weeks all link in.
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It's almost like we've recorded a once happen one in one night.
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We've only got three jokes.
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We keep going over the same ones all the time.
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We'll talk about Danny DeVito in a minute.
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Well, I mean this is the thing that that's podcasting 101, isn't it?
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Get get your audience and tell them the same things again and again.
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We built we built a show over four years doing that.
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We own this market, hey Tim, no one's listening anymore.
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And I've been looking forward to doing I've been looking forward to doing this episode for four years.
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Let me do prepping.
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Let me do prepping.
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Go on, go on then.
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We'll we'll do it.
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Oh no, I've I've been I've been a bit of a prepper for years, and um, and I've always had extra food supply and and things like that.
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You know, when COVID hit, I didn't rush out to buy toilet paper because I already had toilet paper.
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Um I'd already been buying extra a few extra tins uh in every week's shop and rotating those and doing doing all of that.
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So there's you know, it's good to have an extra few weeks if you can push it an extra few months worth of of you know long life storable food um in your cupboards because you don't know what's round the corner, um but your camping equipment it it it serves a double purpose.
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So yes, it gets you out for your mini adventures, but absolutely if the power goes off, you've got a you have you've got a power system.
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Um if the electricity and gas goes off and you can't cook anything, you know, I've got a jet ball genesis.
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I can cook anything on a jet ball genesis that I could cook in the house because it's it's an absolutely brilliant two burner.
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Um I've got a great little one-burner rocket, you know, jet boil rocket, and um and that's uh that'll that's like my kettle, that will boil water super fast.
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You know, you do have a lot of gas supply um stored properly in the garage for that.
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Um if you are I'll say this now if you are storing fuels, please make sure that you store them appropriately, don't do anything stupid with them.
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There is a disclaimer at the end of the episode that uh uh means you can't sue us.
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Yeah.
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But but that that is the thing, isn't it?
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Um I it it you saying that has reminded me of um so uh our dad last winter Yorkshire seemed to have quite a few uh power cuts, and he was without power uh for a day.
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Not very long.
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Um, but actually all he had in his house was electric, didn't have gas uh to cook on or anything like that, didn't have a wood-burning stove, didn't, you know, and he got really cold.
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You know, old people can't regulate their body temperature uh um too well.
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Uh he did have he was used to having like um blankets that he could plug in that would go over his lap and just keep him nice and warm.
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Didn't have electrics, didn't have a power bank, couldn't do any of those things.
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We remedied that for him, but um it's it was just it was really interesting to go, oh, you take out just one thing and it becomes uh difficult.
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And for me, you know, we've got if electric goes down, if there's a uh this is just in regular life, not if anything else sort of goes on, but in regular life, I've got gas to cook on, I've got electric um uh in the house.
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Um if the boiler goes down because the electrics are off, so the boiler won't work, we can still keep ourselves, you know, have hot drinks um and various other things.
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We do have a wood burning stove to keep us warm as well.
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Yeah, you do.
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And I I um when I first started prepping, I did have a house with a wood-burning stove and uh or an open fire at that point, and um I don't in this house, and it's it is sort of a big regret on this house, and at some point I will put one in.
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Um I think it is possible, but uh yeah, having a wood burner and a decent wood supply um is uh you know, I never I never let my my um my firewood supply go down, you know, really low.
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I uh I had a big wood store, and if it got to about half, I'd be I'd be um getting the guy to come and do another delivery because um, you know, it's a it's it's a prepper supply, isn't it?
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You've got to make sure that if something happens you've got the fuel for that fire, there's no good just having it.
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Um water's always a a big thing that people worry about because storing water is really hard because it takes up loads of space, it's really heavy.
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How do you make sure it's clean?
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How do you make sure you can use it?
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Um I don't do that.
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I've I've got water filters, I've got some I've got uh a few smaller water filters, but they'll do they're smaller, but they'll do a hundred thousand gallons with each one.
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And um so I've I've got water filters so that if the water went off and it was off for ages and you really had to go and get some water from somewhere, at least you can filter it and you know that it's going to be safe to drink.
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Um it's um you know, I uh people often think when you start talking about prepping, they often think, Oh, you are you're talking about zombie apocalypses or you know, comets landing from God knows where and all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff.
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But actually, you know, prepping's about prepping for what might actually happen, not some stupid idea in a movie.
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You know, we um you know if you live by the coast, you should prep for the fact that you might get, you know, storms, you know.
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It's um if you live in somewhere where there's there's tornadoes, you should prep for tornadoes.
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If you live, you know, somewhere by a river, are you are you in danger of getting flooded out?
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You know, it's um it's all it's all of those sort of things that you should prepare for.
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And um and and particularly if there's a chance in any of those scenarios where you might have to m leave the house for any time, well having camping equipment means that actually you can if you've got to go somewhere else and and rough it, you're not necessarily gonna rough it as much as as somebody else.
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It's um yeah, yeah, no, I I think that that's the thing.
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I mean, like you, um what water is the the thing, and the official um emergency list says water store a minimum of 2.5 to 3 litres of drinking water per person per day.
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That's a hell of a lot of water.
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Um, and you know, uh I'll I'll read from the list of the uh government sort of uh uh guidelines to prepare for emergencies, build a home emergency kit to create a clear household plan to sustain yourself and others for at least 72 hours during power cuts, severe weather, or supply disruptions.
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So obviously, waters, you know, it's like if you're on a desert island or whatever, you've got to sort water out because that'll kill you quicker than anything if you can't if you don't have water for so many is it seven days you die?
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Um it's um so there's there's a rule of three.
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So um air is three minutes, um what is it?
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Shelter can be three hours with if if the conditions are awful and it's hypothermia, water's three days and food's three weeks.
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Simple rule of three.
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Um so water, water is you know, obviously we can breathe, hopefully.
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Yeah.
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Um shelter, well you've got tents, you've you know, you've got camping equipment, you've got tents for shelter.
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Um water, you need something that can either carry water or that you can, if you've got the ability to store lots of water, but most people don't.
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Water filters are a really, really sensible way to go.
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They um they take out 99.9% of of the stuff you don't want to drink, and it really means that you can then you know keep yourself hydrated.
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Yes, there are other ways of doing that.
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You can boil water, you do need to properly boil it though, not just like put it in a kettle.
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Um that only brings it to the boil, it doesn't properly boil it to kill off things.
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You can get purification tablets and things like that, um, they can alter the taste, and particularly if you've got kids, they're not really gonna want to drink it.
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It's um so uh water filters.
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I uh I'm a big fan of water filters.
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The uh the price of them have come right down as well.
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They used to be massively expensive, but they um they have come right down now.
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Yeah, and I I've got the uh life oh gosh, what was the systems Jerry Can, um, which is amazing, you know.
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I could go down to local river and just fill that up and drink out of it.
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That is amazing, that is amazing, yeah.
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You know, and so yeah, Icon life filter uh lifesaver, uh 20,000 litres.
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Uh it will one filter will do.
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So having something like that just somewhere, um, you know, big up to uh um life saver, they uh yeah, they do tremendous work all over the world and stuff, but you know, they um yeah, I I've just like their things.
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Those those do go out of, you know, they've got a lifespan on them and stuff, but once you start using them, you can do and you can buy different filters for them and stuff.
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So they are that almost made it onto the barter barn, and uh then Mrs.
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Sweet went, You ain't giving that away.
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No way.
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There's no way to let you put that on the barter barn.
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Bloody hell, bloody hell.
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We we gave a lot of stuff away on that barter barn, but yeah, so um, you know, the there's things like that, you know.
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Actually, if power is down, um, and I know we've gone all sort of internet-y and things like that, but can can you actually listen to a do you have a radio these days?
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Does anybody have you know an analogue radio that would be able to let people know what's going on?
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If I if your power supply goes, yeah, I do as well.
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I've got a wind up one.
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I've got a wind up radio.
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It's um so that actually uh you can wind it up and you can you can you know it doesn't take a lot of power to power the radio, then it's um and it's just uh it's just an analog radio because actually you need to know what is what is happening if the power and everything goes down, like you say, you've got no internet.
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Um how do you know what's happening?
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People start to go a bit nuts, so you need to tune in and you need to be able to listen if uh if there's uh warnings and things.
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It's um yeah no, getting getting an analogue radio that's um that you can you can you can give power to because you still gotta power that.
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Yeah.
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Um and that's that's the thing, you know, just having those those bits.
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Shall I uh I did have uh the list up a second ago, shall I uh go through it a little bit more?
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So uh yeah, water store minimum of uh two and a half to three litres of drinking water per person per day.
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Food, keep non-perishable items that require no cooking or heating, plus a tin opener, of course.
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Lighting and power, pick up a wind-up or battery-powered torch, spare batteries, and portable power bank for phones.
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So, you know, that's the thing.
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If the internet goes down though, which you know potentially it could do, uh, how do you go through all of those?
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You know, how do you you get that information?
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Uh and and actually, if there is a you know, nationwide power uh alert and stuff, you've got to think about money.
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You know, you won't be able to get money out of the card machines and stuff.
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So uh do you have something squirreled away just uh just in case money will come back really quickly in those kind of situations, won't it?
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Yeah, they will.
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They will.
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Although we thought that in COVID, and actually, because of everybody being scared of passing and transmitting things, contactless suddenly boomed, didn't it?
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You know, everybody was doing contactless at that point.
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But if all of that system's down, because the internet's down, how are we gonna buy anything?
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And uh and cash will be king again, it's um at that point.
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Yeah, and I'll just reiterate uh halfway through this.
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This because the this isn't obviously the the funny, hey, jovial kind of thing, uh you know, it's a quite a serious thing.
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Um and w this isn't a show to make anybody worry, but it is a show that goes, hey, you're halfway there, you're campers, you've got stuff, you've got, you know, uh you can cook stuff, you can survive outside should you need to.
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It just does extra little bits like things like because I don't, you know, water, you know, okay.
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Um I I've got the like the life saver lifesaver uh life systems jerry can life systems who life systems.
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What what no is life saver?
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Is it yeah?
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Oh man, sorry.
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Yeah.
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Um and they do loads of different sizes.
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I said it with real authority as well.
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Oh, you did.
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Um, so communication including battery or wind up radio for emergency alerts.
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Uh, are you signed up to the government alert type thing so that uh you get that information as quickly as you can do?
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Uh first aid health, stock up any first aid kits, essential toiletries, wet wipes, prescription medications.
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I'm gonna say prescription meds.
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Um or even just having extra packs of paracetamol and things just in case.
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Um and then But also just on that point, you know, some people have medication that has to be chilled, has to be, has to be kept cold.
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Um, you know, if you've got if you've got a cooler, you know, a decent day cooler, you've got some some ice packs that are already, you know.
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I always keep ice packs permanently in my freezer because you never know when you might just need them.
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Um you know, if you've got to travel and leave the house and go somewhere, well at least you can keep those medications cold, you know, for a few hours while you try and get to from A to B.
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You know, it's um sorry, carry on, carry on with your list.
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No, no.
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Uh the final thing after uh first aid and health and safety is uh comfort and documents, keep waterproof copies of important documents, emergency cash, and warm clothing.
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Um so and that's off the British government's thing.
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I know that uh I've seen various things over the last few years from Finland, who issued a list to uh uh all of their um country, people, population, yeah.
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Um, just about you know, a similar kind of thing.
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The world has become a more dangerous place, and there are things going on, I guess, that we're not even uh privy to uh and stuff.
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And this isn't set to sort of war um to uh scare anybody.
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It is just hey, it's in the news, so we thought we'd touch on it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you know, local to me, just a few weeks ago, houses were on fire, they were evacuating streets, those people had to be evacuated.
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To a sports hall where there were camp beds.
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Um, people who were campers, you know, they they could get hold of their own stuff, they took their own sleeping bags and things like that.
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And and so it isn't about worst horrible case scenario, although that was a pretty horrible case scenario.
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The streets, the you know, a number of streets did have to be evacuated.
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They didn't know how long they were gonna be in those sports halls for.
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They could have been there for a number of days.
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But actually, if you're a camper and you have to go to something like that, you know, think about what can I grab uh if I've got five, ten minutes to get out of the house.
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What am I gonna what am I gonna grab?
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You know, what am I gonna assign someone to do?
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You know, you go and get the documents and and the food and and bits and bobs, you go and get something else.
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I'm gonna go and get some of the camping stuff so that we're gonna hopefully be a little bit more warmer and comfortable.
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And then collectively you can leave the house and go where they're telling you to go.
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It's um, you know, it isn't it isn't, you know, it's not always a zombie apocalypse, it's not always a war.
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Sometimes it's a natural disaster.
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We had fires in this area, and people had to go and live in a in a sports hall for a while.
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Um it does happen, and um and it's just about being prepared for it, isn't it?
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Being prepared for the thing that is likely to happen to you.
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Yeah, you know, we've had a very dry summer here in the UK and across Europe.
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Uh I saw on the internet today that there's parts of is it Spain that were experiencing floods?
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Um Yeah, yeah.
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I mean you often get that, don't you?
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After after really dry weather, the ground's really hard.
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So any rain you get is like flash floods, so you've then got to prepare for that.
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And and and that's what the government website says, you know, for in the event of power cuts, floods, things like that, that will just knock out things, and it might be localized, it might be national, who knows?
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Um, but you know, it's it's just being prepared.
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And so if you were thinking of kind of foods, Tim, what what kind of food?
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I mean, it said there stuff that doesn't need cooking.
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You and I, we could cook up a dream.
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We could cook up a dream.
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Yeah, I mean, I've got a lot of tinned tin stuff, tin tomatoes, tins of beans, tins of tuna, lots of tins of tuna.
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Um, but I've also got a load of rice, um, I've got a load of pasta and and um loads of things like stock cubes, because you know, pasta with a load of with some stock cubes in it, you know, yes, it's not the most exciting meal, but if you're if you've got a week some stuff out, pasta and a stock cube and and some tinned tomatoes in it, it's actually that's gonna fill you up and it's not gonna be horrible.
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Um so it's it's stuff like that.
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But also remember fun stuff, particularly if you've got kids, you do need you do need some sweets, you do need some treats, you know.
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I've I've got stored, you know, treats and things like that as well.
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:58.079
You would have had it until that mouse got in.
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Yeah, my my prepper supplies are stored in a completely different place in lots of tubs and lots of lots of things.
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I do have one pack of really long um long supply food.
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Um of um it's like a two-week supply for two people that'll last 30 years, which is longer than I've probably got left on the planet, to be honest, at my age with my heart.
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It's um could it um but it is it is the kind of thing that actually I could grab that and know that um me and me and the other half we we'd eat reasonably well for for two weeks if we had to just get out of the house really quickly and and you know, food-wise.
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So that that's reasonably close to like camping stuff because then it would be like if we've got to get out of the house really quickly, we can take a few camping stuff, and I just can grab that and I can go, you know what, we've got breakfast, lunch, and an evening meal for two of us for two weeks.
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And um, and I I bought that, it's about four years old now that uh into its 30 year, but it's got a 30-year lifespan on it.
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It's um so you don't have to go as nuts as I am, but you know, you um it's just about having extra stuff.
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What you know the the the the way I've built up my food supply is I've just you know every time I go and do a weekly shop, I just buy a few extra tins of stuff, um, or an extra bag of pasta or an extra thing of rice or you know, just a few little extra bits so that you don't notice it in your weekly spend because food has got more expensive.
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But actually over you know, six months and a year, you've suddenly got actually quite a decent supply of stuff.
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Um, but then you do need to remember to keep rotating it and looking at your expiry dates, and um, you know, but if it's stuff that you're buying anyway, well, the one that you buy this week you just swap with the one that's on you know in your in your storage.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um so it's it kind of looks after itself then.
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But it's um yeah, and I and I I would you know obviously I I you know the first things that I think of are kind of oats, pasta, rice, you know, good carbohydrate type stuff.
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I'd then think of beans, different tins of beans, not just baked beans and stuff uh that have those.
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But then I also kind of think, oh, you know, proteins, you know, do I have some fish?
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Do I have some pilchards?
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Do I have some whatever those things are that are you know quite long life stuff?
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Uh and then noodles and stuff, you know.
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I've got tons of noodles, tons and tons and tons of packets of noodles.
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Um beans, even if they're baked beans, are a source of protein.
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There are you know, bean beans and pulses are a massive source of of protein.
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So um uh and you can get those dried, you can get those in tins.
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Um, you know, it's uh it's it's looking at what you want to eat as well, because actually, you know, if if if something does happen and you do end up having to use this food, it does have to be food that you actually want to eat.
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Um you know, do have have a bit of an idea of of a little you know list of a few short recipes that you can make with those those ingredients so that actually you're making palatable food.
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You know, I've got in there a few spices and you know, dried spices and herbs and things, because actually years and years ago when I was at school, I went on a survival day and um and there was some guys from the army there, and they said we always carry um chili powder, um, because no matter what you're eating out in the field, whether you've had to find something and cook it or you've trapped something and cooked it and whatever else, sometimes it'll taste absolutely bloody awful.
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But if you put a load of chili powder on it, it just tastes a chili.
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Um so actually I've I've got you know spices and things like that in there because actually then at least you can just make it you can make it taste nice, you can make it palatable.
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.359
It's um it's never gonna come to any of that.
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But the good thing, you know, to make this a bit lighter, I've I've um probably 90% of all of my camping purchases are on the back of me convincing myself there's something I need to prep for.
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:15.839
Therefore it costs nothing, Tim.
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Therefore it costs nothing.
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Actually, this is an essential purchase.
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There you go.
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That one's for Tom.
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That one.
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That one is.
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I'm investing in the survivor in the future survival of my household, and um, and what price can you put on that?
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That is priceless, so therefore it costs nothing.
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Absolutely brilliant.
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Um, yeah, I think I think certainly for for me, you know, though those type of things I was just thinking though, of what about things like uh the dieting sort of products that give you sustainable stuff, obviously, you know, so things like Huel that are out there, those drinks and stuff, or the Slimfast, where it's a powder kind of thing that give you nutrients and stuff, but obviously it's you're supposed to take it in other things.
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Are those something that you know, as a as a stock, you go, you know what, that'll keep me going.
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.759
Um it it will, as with all of those things.
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The key word in all of that is their supplements, aren't they?
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Supplement, they supplement your normal diet um and fluid intake, so they're they're in addition to what you do.
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You can't survive on those things, but they might give you a boost.
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Um, you know, I do have in my supplies a huge tub of protein powder.
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I do have in in my supplies several massive tubs of powdered soups.
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Um, you know, you can put protein powder into a powdered soup, and and you know, so you're supplementing all of that to make sure that you're getting some of those nutrients.
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You have to be a little bit careful with with vitamins and and tablets and things like that because they do degrade quite quickly over time, and a lot of a lot of over-the-counter ones and the and of just off-the-shelf ones tend to have quite short um lifespans.
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There are some quite um specific companies out there that do vitamins and minerals that all last sort of 20 years, and you can store them and put them away, and they'll they'll still give you the exactly the same amount uh in 20 years' time as as if you took them today, which a lot of um even medication that is prescribed actually over over a number of years they become less and less effective.
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:45.440
So the um, you know, the what's it paracetamol five years after its expiry, it's about quarter of its strength because it's it?
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And it degraded quite a bit.
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It's um yeah, and a lot of tablets, a lot of tablets are like that.
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So you it but it is worth thinking about sort of vitamins and minerals to make sure that you're getting sort of your daily allowance of stuff.
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:07.039
It's um so it is it is that the hard thing is if if you've got a load of prescribed medication, because it's really hard to get extra prescribed medication.
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It's um because it it's limited, you know.
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You you can only request a repeat prescription in the UK if you're um within so many days of your last one having been used.
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It's um but sometimes you can, you know, you can speak to your your GP, you can speak to your medical team and say, I'm doing this.
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:36.880
Um, is it possible that I could just have like an extra couple of months and I'll rotate it so they don't ever go out of date, and then I've got you've got a couple of months' supply, or something like that.
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:40.559
Um sometimes you do get clinicians who will be open to that.
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:44.400
Tim, that is an absolutely brilliant top tip.
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:58.480
Well, you know, I think it's an easy argument, really, if you're speaking to some to a clinician, you know, who knows you and knows you're not a nut job um and knows that you're not doing anything stupid with your medication, like selling it or anything like that.
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:13.920
If you actually give them a sound argument of I'm building up prepper supplies as the government has told me to do, and I I I think it would be prudent if I could have, you know, if something were to happen, I'm not trying to get to the surgery to get my prescription.
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I think it would be prudent if I could have an extra couple of months supply and I'll make sure that it doesn't expire, I'll rotate it.
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.839
Um, I can't see a sensible clinician saying no to that request.
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I um you know um here's a here's a thing that um Mrs.
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Sweep uh uh said uh to me, do we have enough food for the cats?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So when I had a dog when I first started prepping, I did make sure that I had sacks of dried food.
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.640
Um uh wet food gets a bit more complicated.
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You can get like pouches and things of wet food.
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And I know a lot of people give um raw food to animals now, particularly dogs, but um that's really tricky to kind of do.
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Um you know, rem don't forget your pets, don't forget your pets, have um, you know, try and try and prepare for them as well.
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:39.199
Um and something that a lot of people forget about is um uh and it's not sexy at all, but like sanitary products and cleansing products, and you know, you've got to brush your teeth, you've gotta you've got to have a wash, you've got to smell nice, you know, deodorant, um, sanitary products um particularly, you know, I live in a house with uh three ladies and um there's uh there's there's a sizable amount of sanitary products um stored away because actually they're essential items, aren't you?
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.000
I couldn't imagine how horrendous that would be.
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Um to uh to well let's not talk about it, but you know what I mean.
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.360
It's um so non-sexy stuff too.
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Yeah, you know, it it's those are the things that are in an emergency, they become pretty essential really quickly.
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.039
And you know, I think I think you know that's another top point.
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Let me let me ask you.
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:17.119
We're two blokes talking about it, but you know, actually that that's the thing that'd be so important to our nearest and dearest.
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Totally, totally.
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It's um unthinkable to not have have stuff like that um in amongst it.
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Um let me ask you a question.
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Um defense?
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Well, you know, it's um okay, let's let's go down let's go down a rabbit hole of of of craziness, let's say zombie apocalypse or something like that, or you know, yeah, you know, supermarkets only have two days worth of food.
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:43.920
We learnt that in COVID.
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We live in a in a system now of an instant supply chain, um, where constantly stuff is coming to the stores, the stores don't hold any supply of anything, particularly food, food stores.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:07.840
Um, so it only takes a week, a couple of weeks of those lorries not turning up, that there's literally not a scrap of food in any of those.
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That then makes people who haven't prepared get really angry.
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:14.719
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And uh, and and you know, how how do you think about defending your yourself?
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.920
And I, you know, here in the UK, obviously we we we don't have guns and we don't have things like that.
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:39.920
It's um but you do have to think about you know, if you're in your house, well your house is pretty easy to you know reasonably easy to defend because you're in a house and the doors are locked and everything.
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:47.679
But if you've had to leave the house and you're camping out somewhere, um, you know, it's uh it's a different picture, isn't it, really?
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:53.679
And it's a bit it's a bit more scary, and that's the scenario that scares me because I don't I don't know what to do in that.
00:36:53.840 --> 00:37:02.719
It's um so I you know I I think this is the thing of you know zombie apocalypse or or whatever.
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:13.440
Um I always go with the thought that if I've got and somebody needs, then then I share.
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.880
Yeah, yeah.
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Because because that then becomes, you know, imagine if all lights go out across your town or or whatever, and you're sat there with your generator on with lights on, yeah, you know, or what would probably be the case is that you're not sat there with your generator on using it because you don't want to signify to other people that you've got a generator, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:53.519
So generosity, I think, is always the best way, you know, without going, okay, there's more that needs what do we have to share?
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You know, this is what we've got.
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We need to pe pool our resources, you know.
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We go to neighbours.
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I I think having a friendly relationship with people that you know, hey, how are you doing?
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What's going on?
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Are you okay?
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We've got this.
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What do you need?
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:18.480
Those are the things that will ultimately we're we're always stronger together.
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:19.760
Well, what does you know?
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.679
We both love the program alone.
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:27.360
What does every series of alone teach us that you can't do it on your own?
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Yeah, yeah, you know.
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Uh psychological things.
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:32.719
I was thinking that the other day.
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How many people psychologically go, uh, I need to be home with my and as soon as they think that they're out within a day.
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:42.079
Yeah.
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Um, so yeah.
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Let's go to a minute mindfulness and uh yeah, have a little think about what we've talked about, people.
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Welcome to the casual camping minute mindfulness.
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Let the sounds of nature take you back to the camping field.
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Lovely.
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It's um yeah, a a a more serious episode this week, but um some essential stuff, and it it's certainly in the news a lot, and I um I think it was a good shout of you, Ed, to um to talk about it.
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I um hopefully we've given some people some top tips and and not scared too many people.
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Yeah, don't be scared, get informed.
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Uh there is another podcast called Casual Preppers Podcast.
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Go listen to some of their stuff, they are cool dudes, and uh they inspired our name.
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So, you know.
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I've been Aid.
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I've been Tim, and they're called Cam and Kobe, they are cool dudes.