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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is recorded on. Canceled listeners. Do you miss Claire and Jessie? Me too, dude. Shall we call them? Wait, they both just had babies, yeah. They're probably, like, crying. The babies and them. So I don't really want to get involved in that. Anyway, have you missed laughing since cancelled ended? Lucky for you, we have a solution to your sadness. It's a new comedy podcast called In the Comments. Kind of like cancelled, but not really. But we think you'll like it. Basically, the whole thing's about what's on your For You page that week. In the episode you're about to listen to, we talk about Jacob Elordi, Erlen Harland, Meg Stalter, and also we had a caller at the end of the episode who told us about how she accidentally ended up in an orgy-like situation. You heard that right, yeah. So have a listen, and if you like it, come and follow our feed, and then you can listen to it every week. I will never forget the first time that I witnessed how to manipulate. I was probably three years old. I got in trouble because we had a bunny called Casper. It was in a cage and I took Casper out of his cage and let him run through the house.
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Speaker 2: And it died.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no. He didn't die, but he chewed through cables and mum got very upset. And then I got in trouble and was put into timeout and I remember being like, hmm, I don't want to be in trouble right now. I want my mum to like me again. So I walked in and I had rows of teddies in my room. And I started crying. Goodbye. And I said goodbye to each and every single one of them. I'm not loved in this house anymore. Goodbye.
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Speaker 2: Was your mum hearing this?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she felt really bad and then she went, oh, I'm so sorry. And then I remember my brain going.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so that was performative.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I remember my brain going. that was easy.
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Speaker 2: And that's how you wanted to be an actor.
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Speaker 1: And then also, um, you know, I was around three at the same age and you have to give up your dummy. And I apparently was like really kind of eager to give up my dummy and I loved it so much. And mum said, you know, you went all day and you were like going along with me and you were being like, yep, I feel like I'm growing up and this is great. And then she put me to bed and She goes, you just went to bed so easily. Like you weren't freaking out at all. You just said, yep, I'm fine without a dummy.
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Speaker 2: Because you hid the dummy?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hid the dummies all over the house. And she said for two months.
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Speaker 1: You're a hoarder. For two months, I would just go find every night. I hid so many dummies and I wouldn't tell her where they were.
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Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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Speaker 1: I would just go, no.
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Speaker 2: You were a manipulative child. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: Smart.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Three, two, one.
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Speaker 2: What's up, superstars?
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Speaker 1: I got nervous too. You say what's up every time. And you should know by now. It is what up.
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Speaker 2: You should know by now that I like to say what's up. Anyway, what up, superstars? This is Liv James. You want to say your name?
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Speaker 1: So I'm Liv James and that's Liv Coleman. And today we're in the comments again, episode five. We've got some voices in the background today. We've got Jess, who is our social editor. And then we've also got Coco. Editor, wow. You're promoted, Jess. Promoted to editor-in-chief.
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Speaker 2: Social producer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, social producer. And then we've also got Coco. Coco's our producer. And then they're just going to laugh at us. So we feel like less alone here. Yeah, we wanted more positive feedback in real time. So this was my solution, putting an audience. Yeah. I like performing.
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Speaker 2: Because, yeah, we are performers.
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Speaker 1: We are.
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Speaker 2: So now we're talking about what happened on our For You page over the last week, today, yesterday. Speaking of yesterday, Erlin Harland posted haircut photos.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen this yet. I am not necessarily a super fan of this man. I like him and I like his essence. Do you follow him, Coco?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You follow him. I just realized I'm going to follow now.
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Speaker 1: So I would say that you were the biggest fan of him and then you didn't even follow him.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know this about me. I never follow people I really care about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.
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Speaker 2: It's weird, yeah. Because I'd rather have it more of like a, oh, surprise. Like I've chosen to interact with their page. I'm giving them more page views.
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Speaker 1: I don't even understand the psychology of that.
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Speaker 2: But back to the haircut. He has got a buzz cut now. As you know, he had quite a long blonde bob. It was signature hair. during the World Cup and all of his games, it almost became sort of a costume piece. Like people would go to the games wearing a bob.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it became who he was. He looks like a Viking.
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Speaker 2: Oh, exactly. Yeah. So he's got the caption, new season, new trim. He is the coolest guy I know. Reason being.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 1: He kind of still looks like he's got his ponytail, though, doesn't he?
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Speaker 2: What do you mean? There's literally nothing there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it kind of just looks like he's doing a slick back. Like, do you know when you do a slick back bun and you kind of think, hmm, this is what I'd look like bald?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just a you thing. Oh.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's what he looks like with his little.
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Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit. You know what it is? It's like Hamilton. Oh. Alexander Hamilton.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't like musicals other than La La Land.
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Speaker 2: Well, when I have my hair slicked back, that's what I feel like. Oh, okay. But Jude Bellingham was in his comment section saying no way. So, like, their little love.
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Speaker 1: Their bromance is still going on.
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Speaker 2: Bromance continues. But it is buzz cut season, as Lord would say. Jake Shane got a buzz cut recently. Also, there's photos of Connor Story from, like, Heat of Rivalry. He's got a buzz cut apparently now. I think that's for the show, actually. Hot. Exactly. It's like the loss of his signature look.
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Speaker 1: Do you like it or do you think that.
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Speaker 2: I prefer it.
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Speaker 1: Really? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 1: And hair can grow back.
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Speaker 2: What I wanted to talk about before we move on is that he's posted a YouTube video of the transition, of his hair transition. He, like, sorry, I was a bit like, I gotta make sure it's hair transition.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it's just really funny to me.
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Speaker 1: Your choice of words are so funny to me.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: Transformation, I think you mean.
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Speaker 2: No, hair trans. Oh, you're right. Okay, with his hair transformation. Yeah. I think he's become sort of an influencer.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, duh.
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 1: He's mega famous. No, but he's not.
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Speaker 2: He's not just famous for being an athlete. He's like doing influencer content. I'm like Alex Earl, Harland. Same circle.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: They could be collabing. He posted a YouTube video the other day and he's on his yacht and he's golfing and he's just like talking about people that are like going on boats to see him. And I'm like, that's something Alex Earl would do.
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Speaker 1: That'd be so much fun. And that's nice because as well, I feel like footballers go through a certain amount of fame. It's same with Olympic athletes where they have this like small moment when the World Cup happens or the Olympics happen where they're mega famous. I understand that football has an incredible world of very famous people.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And like, I'm probably naive to how famous these guys are. But he's making sure that a huge range of people really care about him.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Smart, smart move.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like Beckham. What's his first name?
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Speaker 1: David.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, David Beckham, growing up, because I remember watching the documentary on him. I was going to say Brooklyn and I was like, that's not right. David Beckham, he wasn't just an athlete. He became sort of like a massive model at the time for all these different sport brands. Yes. And so he's been able to sustain his career because he also was like, in the zeitgeist and pop culture. I think Harland is doing the same thing. In comparison to some other soccer players, you have no idea who their names are. I know Erling, right? You know him?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know him a little bit because of a certain kind of niche that he's involved with.
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Speaker 2: Tell me.
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Speaker 1: And that is the luxury handbag niche. He has an incredible collection of Hermes bags.
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Speaker 2: I did not know this.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: That's the only reason I really know him. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 1: How much do you think that he's like bag collection is valued at? It's around 700,000.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And then he's also spent an additional 400,000 on one single bag called the Himalaya for his girlfriend. That's a Himalaya. Oh, beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Very mountain range.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That is a crocodile skin bag that is white in the center and then brown on the sides. And it looks like a mountain range. Yes. Not really.
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Speaker 2: It looks like a snake. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It looks like a snake.
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Speaker 2: It's basically white though.
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Speaker 1: Let's be real. It's very expensive. And speaking of David Beckham, another person that owns this bag is Victoria Beckham. And these bags go for 400,000 US. So that is nearly a million dollars Australian. Yeah. Which is quite incredible if we think about it. Anyway, it got me thinking about all the men that have incredible bag collections. Harlan's one of them. Jacob Elordi's another one. Henry, Henry, Henry, who is, oh, I love him. He's an influencer. He famously dated.
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Speaker 2: Madeline Klein. Yes.
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Speaker 1: He famously dated Madeline Klein, who was on Outer Banks.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Why are you saying Outer Banks?
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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know she was on Outer Banks. Shut up.
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Speaker 3: Shut up.
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Speaker 2: Dude we're both we're warming up oh yeah black socks they never get dirty the longer you wear them the stronger they get sometimes I think I should wash them but then a voice says to me don't do it yet not yet not yet not yet okay my my vocal cords are warmed up that's a little song that's like black leather red leather that was crazy beautiful thank.
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Speaker 1: You Henry Henry Henry influencer he does also.
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Speaker 2: Just call him Henry please I hate it okay.
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Speaker 1: Fine Henry, Henry, Henry, influencer. He just did a feature on Vogue.
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Speaker 2: A magazine, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Vogue did like a feature on all of his vintage collection of designer bags. He's got the coolest collection. Where does he get his money from? He's an influencer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but sure, you know.
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Speaker 1: He's got 1.1 million followers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that feels like a lot of bags.
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Speaker 1: No, I think you'd be surprised about how much money these kids are making. So he has a collection of designer bags, mostly vintage. He travels around the world and he says that his biggest joy about going to places is making sure that he can source a cool vintage bag. One of which is a sequined Chanel bag. From 1997, that is his birth year, I'm like, what do I have for my birth year? I have baby teeth. That's about it. So there's all these men, famous men, who are now collecting designer bags. They used to collect watches, I would say, men.
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Speaker 2: Very true.
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Speaker 1: Do you know the symbolism of having an expensive watch? It's to represent how much time, how much money. Hold on. Watches tell you how much your time is worth. okay so depending on how expensive your watch is symbolism to how much your time's worth right so i'm like what are designer bags representing and i feel like how.
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Speaker 2: Much baggage you have oh.
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Speaker 1: Erling has massive yeah like extra large hermes bags so that means that your favorite guy he's a big boy though What do you reckon he's carrying in the big boy bag?
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Speaker 2: Just a collection of taxidermy animals. He's just putting them all in. Pokemon cards. For listeners who don't know, Holland has a massive collection of taxidermy.
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Speaker 1: Do you think it's hot that men have handbags?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's because they're comfortable in their masculinity.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. And I do think it's the final boss of a performative male.
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Speaker 2: Totally. I.
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Speaker 1: Wonder if it's like authentically done. I'm rarely seeing men on the streets unless they're paparazzi.
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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to know, what have you got in there besides your wallet? Like I would love if my boyfriend said, babe, you just carry the keys. I've got your drink bottles, snacks, period pads, tampons. I've got that all in my little, you know, bag. That's the dream. I think that's what Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner are doing.
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Speaker 1: A photo of Timothy went viral once of him with a backpack and Kylie had no bag at Coachella. And everyone's like, oh, Timothy's carrying all her stuff. But I think the watch is interesting because it's like more of a peacocking moment for men to men. Whereas the bag is more of a peacocking moment for men to women. And that is a total cultural change. So when you asked me what Erland's putting in his bag it's actually reported that he has an Hermes bag to hold one of his little Hermes bags so he puts an Hermes bag in his Hermes bag.
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Speaker 4: But what is he doing with mini Hermes bags it's just like a status thing it is such a status it's like having a watch yeah well because he's not wearing a lots of like you know suits and like watches I don't think self-expression.
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Speaker 1: Yeah So there was this creator on TikTok called Nick who made a video that was like things you should outgrow by the time you're 25. And then he just screamed Snapchat, which I hardcore agree with. I only have Snapchat because I communicate with one single friend on it.
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Speaker 2: You still have it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do still have it.
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Speaker 2: 26.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. But it made me think of other things that you should outgrow by the time you're 25. And obviously I'm 26. So these are the things that I can't do anymore. Yeah. And you're 24. So you're nearly there. You're 23.
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Speaker 2: Bro just added a year.
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Speaker 1: The way you looked at me with disgust.
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Speaker 2: I was like, you were literally at my birthday party and he did it on my birthday.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, I've come up with a small list of things that might be quite daunting to you, but I do want you to be aware that you need to let go of these things in a year and a half.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So hating small dogs. As I've gotten older, my palate for small dogs has grown and particularly chihuahuas. I find them cuter and cuter as time goes by. Okay. Being embarrassed to go somewhere alone. I think you're pretty good at that though.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm just a child of like moving around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you go to movies alone, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: But I do think my thing is I can go to dinner, cafe, movie by myself. But if I'm going to a pub when there's a bunch of hot people, I get a bit nervous about walking in by myself.
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Speaker 1: But I think that's normal. That's normal. Thinking naps are lazy. You need to let go of that. People having naps during the day is beautiful.
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Speaker 2: I just don't nap.
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Speaker 1: You should try. Yeah. Did you come from a nat positive family?
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Speaker 2: My mum's very nat positive. My dad's not. And I think I follow after my dad a bit more.
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Speaker 1: And lastly, you should never be scared to make a phone call by the time you're 25.
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Speaker 2: Agree.
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Speaker 1: Just like let go, call people. I cold call you sometimes.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just, I'm into a cold call.
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Speaker 2: But I don't like when it's an unknown number.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, neither do I, but I'll let that ring through. And I'm like, if you need to talk to me, you'll leave a message.
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Speaker 2: I got the funniest voicemail the other day. So this unknown number called and I was out with my friends. I was like, I'm not picking it up. And then it was like, I can actually read you the transcript because I have it. It was so funny. She goes, I think she might be a nun. She goes, bless you, my sister. So funny. So sorry, I haven't got in touch with you. I've had no phone. So I'm like, oh my God, she's at the church. And then she goes, I haven't, because it's like weird because the transcript is- Wait, can you play it? Am I allowed to? Legally, we can't play the voicemail. So I'm going to read you the transcript and picture an elderly voice. Bless you, my sister. I'm so sorry I haven't got in touch with you. I've had no phone. I'm not well either. I haven't been, hasn't been a good year for my health. But I'm moving on, darling, and praise the Lord what he's doing. And sorry I haven't contacted beforehand, but I've got no phone. I've got a new one now, and God bless you and love you. Bye now.
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Speaker 1: Is she letting you know she's dying? I don't know, and I'm really worried.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the middle, and I need to connect these two people.
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Speaker 1: Wait, did you try and call her back?
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Speaker 2: Yes, but the number, like, it was no longer in service. So I don't know what's happened to her.
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Speaker 1: That can't be real, brah.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I promise you, dude, it's real.
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Speaker 1: Proof.
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Speaker 2: What were we even talking about?
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Speaker 1: We were talking about things you should get over and I said phone call. Yes, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, I have my own take on this trend and I think it's that we shouldn't outgrow things.
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Speaker 1: Which was an interesting take for me.
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Speaker 2: Last year I read this side quest piece by Eri Barry and I think it really relates to this topic. So she writes, I've probably committed a thousand tiny betrayals against myself in the name of being grown. which I thought was very beautiful. And then she asked herself a series of questions, including what did you love before you felt embarrassed? What did you dislike before you talked yourself into liking it? And what did you believe about the world before you learned to manage your expectations? And so I think, I think because I also relate to the fact that I think If you think about drinking and going to certain parties, there are so many things you do to either fit in or to feel like you have grown up.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And I think about that a lot when I see adults making childish things seem cool again. Yeah. And there's something almost rebellious when you choose to not outgrow anything.
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Speaker 1: Yes. I agree. And you know what, not to float my own boat, but the things that I gave you there weren't necessarily like disconnecting from your younger self, right? It's like not about growing up. It was more about maybe even like, you know, not liking small dogs. Like you've got to like them when you're older. Like it's just like connecting yourself with those little things and not thinking that you shouldn't do things or that you should be acting in a certain way or that you should be embarrassed to be alone. It's being more at peace with, With who you are and enjoying your own company.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And your own mind, which I think is what she's trying to say.
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Speaker 2: But look, if I was to continue with what you said, leggings, I think you should outgrow that by 25.
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Speaker 1: Interesting.
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Speaker 2: Mocha. That's basically hot chocolate. Get over yourself. Any sort of allergy. I just think by adulthood, this bitch.
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Speaker 1: Was just being like, you know, never, never let go of your younger self. But anyway, I do have a strong opinion on this. If you've even got allergies, which is something you absolutely cannot control and is fully out of like any kind of, no one can really fix that for you. You should fucking grow out of it though. On that, it reminded me when you said that you don't think that anyone should outgrow anything. I just want to tell you a story and this person didn't outgrow a specific thing and I want you to know if they're in the right considering you think that no one should outgrow anything. I'm interested to get your reaction on this too, Jess.
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Speaker 2: You specifically.
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Speaker 1: Wedding planner Georgie Mitchell. Georgie told a story that she'd heard from a makeup artist. She had just done the bride's makeup and then the bride goes, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom before I walk down the aisle and then I'll come back here for extra touch-ups. She goes to the bathroom and she walks in on her groom.
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Speaker 3: Wanky.
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 1: With his mum. What do you think the groom was doing?
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Speaker 2: To the mum? I don't... I'm... Okay, I think the mum... Was maybe, you know, when moms like lick their fingers and they're like rubbing shit off their face.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like getting your thumb, licking it and then rubbing their cheek.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Which you think someone should grow out of that by that time.
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Speaker 2: When you're getting married. Like, you know, come on.
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Speaker 1: So no, the groom was being allegedly breastfed by his mom.
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Speaker 3: No!
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Speaker 1: So, because I understand that you think that you, so you thought that people shouldn't really outgrow anything. So you think that's fine?
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Speaker 2: Yuck, man.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Yuck, why is she still producing milk? It means she never stopped.
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Speaker 2: Is she having like a cryptic pregnancy?
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Speaker 1: No, it means that they never stopped. So he's been breastfed his whole life. It was never confirmed if the woman called off the wedding or not. So I think I would have to, that's a very viral story that went all over the internet obviously and no one knows if these people got married or not it was probably like a like a this is your last one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You're not going to be able to come over anymore.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's how we're going to decide. Like we're both single, but we'll figure out if we really like someone. I will say to you, I'll say, would you let him, would you let him get away with.
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Speaker 2: Being breastfed at 25? We were prepping for this episode and Liv James could not shut up about the wildebeest migration. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think that David Attenborough and I would have a very similar For You page. Maybe minus New York City house tours.
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Speaker 2: Bro does not have a For You page.
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Speaker 1: But I have no idea why, but I seem to be appointed as the Australian correspondent for the Great Migration. Do you know what it is?
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Speaker 2: So I've seen what a wildebeest looks like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I didn't really know what it was until today. Yeah, wait, what did you say when I brought up... Yeah, it's called a wildebeest, but you.
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Speaker 1: Didn't even know if a wildebeest was an animal. You said, what is that?
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, true. I did say, what is that?
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Speaker 1: So do you know, top line, what the Great Migration is? A little bit of, are you smarter than a fifth grader?
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Speaker 2: No, I don't.
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Speaker 1: It is the largest continuous land-based wildlife movement on Earth. So wildebeest, there's around 1.5 million. They travel across a national park in Tanzania and... They then end up in Kenya.
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Speaker 2: So how does this relate to anything?
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Speaker 1: Thousands of animals all together migrating from one place to another.
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Speaker 2: Are they violent?
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Speaker 1: These animals? Yeah. No, no, no, no. Wildebeests mainly eat grass. Oh, really? Yeah. And they follow the seasonal rains, so they have fresh grass.
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Speaker 2: Aw. Do you ride one? Can you ride them?
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Speaker 1: No, bro.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: You would probably quite like them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:21:49
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. I didn't understand how many wildebeest there were in the world, or at least in Africa. 1.6 million? That's a lot in one place, bro. Yeah, it is. Can you imagine if the population, sorry, can someone figure out the population of Sydney? Can you imagine if we all got together and said, let's go for a walk? That would be crazy. Wait, that's so cute.
00:22:12
Speaker 2: And we followed the rain.
00:22:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, but can you imagine if 1.6 million people got together and said, let's go?
00:22:18
Speaker 2: Guess how many kangaroos there are in Australia?
00:22:20
Speaker 1: Three million.
00:22:21
Speaker 2: No, way less. Three million. What?
00:22:23
Speaker 1: Fifty million kangaroos in Australia, but they're not all together. I've only really seen around 50 all together at once.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: God.
00:22:29
Speaker 1: It's not about the number. It's about the fact that they're all together.
00:22:33
Speaker 2: Fifty million coming at you. I would be shit scared.
00:22:38
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:22:39
Speaker 3: Same.
00:22:41
Speaker 2: But I just, I needed to reiterate that.
00:22:43
Speaker 1: 50 million of anything coming at me, even if it was like cute puppies, I'd be fucking terrified. Now it's specifically gone viral because the wildebeest start this great migration. They all have to go to this river bank and they just stand there. And then one of them decides to cross the river.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: Now the river.
00:23:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly. The river itself is infested with crocodiles. So it's quite risky to do so. Can you imagine that? All right, boys. They're all gearing up. They could be there for hours and one of them will just cross. The top comment was on 90,000 likes and it was saying, how does one declare themselves the line leader of the Great Migration, right? And I was like, yeah, how do these wildebeest choose who's in charge? The answer, they don't.
00:23:30
Speaker 2: Oh.
00:23:30
Speaker 1: It's just whoever feels like doing it. National Geographic says that they don't have a natural leader and they can stand there for hours until one of them goes, fuck it, let's go.
00:23:39
Speaker 2: I love that.
00:23:41
Speaker 1: Do you think you have what it takes to be the first to go?
00:23:45
Speaker 2: See, you know what this reminds me of? In Divergent when Tris was the first to jump.
00:23:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:23:51
Speaker 2: See, there's a bit of me in there. If it was just you and I, I feel quite maternal. So if I felt maternal of a group, I'd be like, let me take one of the team.
00:24:01
Speaker 1: Um, well, I just like to tell you what you just signed up for. So in the great migration, you are roughly walking 800 kilometers on foot. And that is basically from Sydney to Melbourne nonstop. You can go up to five days without drinking. You need to be able to run about 80 kilometers per hour because not only are there crocodiles that want to kill you in the rivers, there are lions that want to eat you on the land.
00:24:23
Speaker 2: Isn't every wildebeest going? So you don't even have a choice. Yeah.
00:24:27
Speaker 1: Well, no. Yeah, exactly.
00:24:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So it's like you either walk, buddy, or you're going.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: Exactly. So you have no choice but to do this. If you give birth during all of this, your baby has about seven minutes to learn how to stand and then 24 hours to learn how to run. So maternity leave around this time is seven minutes. And if they don't, you're both fucked. To top it all off. There's all these humans that are watching you filming it and then making Hope Corps videos of you and your mates.
00:24:56
Speaker 2: People listening to this going, I thought this was about pop culture.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: I love it.
00:25:01
Speaker 2: I love it.
00:25:02
Speaker 1: No, I just find it crazy. Like, Stacey from, like, Arkansas is filming, like, you know. She's like, oh, my God, it's so beautiful. And then, like, three meters over, a crocodile's just gone.
00:25:12
Speaker 2: And it's like, yay, the Great Migration. Yeah. I don't know. You've made this the hardest transition from wildebeest to gem maxing, but we're going to do it.
00:25:24
Speaker 1: Well, you just did it.
00:25:26
Speaker 2: I just did it.
00:25:26
Speaker 1: And that was beautiful.
00:25:27
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. We just shook on it. Okay. So, Jen Maxine, when did this start? Because I saw, really, I knew it took off from the Kylie Jenner birthday.
00:25:38
Speaker 1: Top line what it is, is a lot of girls online, a lot of brands, a lot of marketing situations have gone crazy with this trend where you take rhinestones and you put it on literally everything. I mean your body. I mean your face masks. I mean your products. I mean your phones. I mean your animals.
00:25:54
Speaker 2: I mean everything.
00:25:55
Speaker 1: A lot of people are doing pregnancy announcements with their belly rhinestoned. A lot of people have been using rhinestones and stickers. Olivia Rodrigo did it for her Guts album. A lot of people have been doing it for a long time. But it spiked up and then Kylie Jenner had her birthday a few weeks ago and it was rhinestone themed, which we spoke about.
00:26:14
Speaker 2: But so many of these videos and photos, the comments are also on the side of this is really bad for the environment.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: That's all I'm seeing. And they're right.
00:26:23
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a bit of trivia with you.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:26:26
Speaker 2: I've got multiple choice on some of these facts around gems. How long do you reckon they take to break down? A, 10 years. B, 100 years. C, it basically doesn't.
00:26:39
Speaker 1: 100.
00:26:41
Speaker 2: Answer is C. So in landfill, PVC can take up to 1,000 years to decompose.
00:26:46
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: So all of these little gemstones that people are buying and putting on their face as a one use is just going to end up in the land forever.
00:26:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, so there's no microorganisms in there that can actually break it down. Can you chuck them in the recycling? A, yes. B, no. C, only if you peel them off first. We should have some like game music.
00:27:07
Speaker 1: What do you mean only if you peel them off first?
00:27:10
Speaker 2: So you know how there's like the glue bit that.
00:27:12
Speaker 1: You can peel? Yeah. I guess that because that's a weird answer.
00:27:15
Speaker 2: Answer is B because it's plastic fused to an adhesive backing. Separating the two layers is possible but too expensive for most recycling facilities. So they're going straight into landfill basically no matter what.
00:27:27
Speaker 1: Damn. yeah so our actions have consequences yeah this is hard for the girls that love like doing whimsy stuff like gemstones i mean we have tooth gems on our teeth yes they're not a one one use situation so that's making it okay last year they'll last a year so that's better than just putting a gem on your face once what can we do to still be a whimsy gal tell me well.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: I did want to touch on this point so Being whimsical has almost become a trend to prove that we are the version of ourselves who never really needed proving. Going analog, healing your inner child, buying a coloring book that costs like $ 150.
00:28:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:28:03
Speaker 2: All of that, it's more of a stereotype of being what whimsical in your mind means. But solutions to the actual gem maxing trend.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:28:13
Speaker 2: Fish tank gravel. And you can glue that onto anything. I thought this was quite nice and you might like it.
00:28:19
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry. I do not understand whatsoever. What are you telling me to do with the fish tank gravel?
00:28:25
Speaker 2: I'm telling you to get a hot glue gun.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: And use them to bedazzle.
00:28:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, mate.
00:28:29
Speaker 1: Oh, so they're rocks. So they're natural. They're eco-friendly.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: It's sort of like sea glass because I actually wrote sea glass down as well. So that's like ocean tumble glass.
00:28:37
Speaker 1: That's cool. That's like those girls that get rocks and shine them in those things. Yeah, exactly. You should shine your own rocks and use them to bedazzle.
00:28:45
Speaker 2: Exactly. Before we move on, there are some other solutions to just being whimsical and not feeling like it needs to be something worth capturing a photo of.
00:28:52
Speaker 1: And performative.
00:28:53
Speaker 2: You can make a wish on everything. Eyelashes, 11-11, dandelions. True, I love doing that. The first star, the last chip in a packet. Collect one treasure a month, a shiny rock, a weird leaf. True.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: True.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: Reread the book that made you believe in something as a kid, Twilight, Harry Potter, Compliment a Stranger, and take the long way home.
00:29:12
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. So those are little things that you can be whimsy on a daily basis. Yes. Truly, there is easy ways to be whimsy that don't involve hurting the environment.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: You know what was beautiful? I saw a man walking down the street and he was just singing. And I was like, this is a bit weird. And I said, who decided that was weird though?
00:29:28
Speaker 1: I think it was the same man. And he genuinely looked quite dangerous. He was rapping and screaming.
00:29:34
Speaker 2: No, but I think there is something beautiful about forgoing what you think is normal.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: Wasn't that man?
00:29:40
Speaker 2: I saw a TikTok. It was this creator saying influencers, they would block.
00:29:47
Speaker 1: Have you ever blocked an influencer?
00:29:48
Speaker 2: No, I've never.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: Nor have I. but I know people do it.
00:29:51
Speaker 2: With TikTok, you can cater your For You page so strongly that you will never see someone that you don't really want to see, in my opinion.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: To be honest, if I go on to the following part of my TikTok, I get annoyed. So I only want to scroll my For You page, but there are some people I don't want to see in there. For example, we wanted to do this trend for ourselves.
00:30:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would.
00:30:11
Speaker 1: block us yeah who would block us and who would not like us I know that I if I had any influence Jake Paul would block me.
00:30:21
Speaker 2: That's a good one he would not why would he block you.
00:30:24
Speaker 1: I just think I would say something that he oh yeah be upset.
00:30:28
Speaker 2: About did I also say Jacob Elordi because I think I'd be commenting under his photos being like I love you I love you I love you and he'd be like block you get.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: More famous and you do that Yeah. Oh. That's beautiful. Well, on that, I said probably Dakota Johnson and Role Model because of how much was spoken about them on our podcast and I find that weird.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But they've broken up now, so it doesn't even matter.
00:30:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they would not like us.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: Oh, recircle.
00:30:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. They probably broke up because of us.
00:30:54
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Anyway, I also said Stassi Baby because I think I'd be like, invite me on your yacht.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: I think probably Alex L on that point too. I think there's something if he, maybe, oh, Alex Cooper, I reckon I probably would not get along with her. Oh, I would not.
00:31:07
Speaker 2: You know when you can just tell, you're like, no.
00:31:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think it would gel. But I'm saying that without knowing her and I'm open to change.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: I looked up why people block celebrities because it doesn't really make sense for normal people to block a celebrity and there's a psychology term for it and it's called a parasocial breakup. Ah. So it's when someone gets too overwhelmed with someone else's content that they know but the other person doesn't and therefore they blocked. Meg Stalter is my favorite celebrity. How do you feel about her?
00:31:35
Speaker 2: I feel very middle ground. I would say I'm more leaning towards not being a massive fan though.
00:31:41
Speaker 1: It's interesting. She is very polarizing and there's a lot of videos online about whether you're a Meg Stalter girl or you're not. She is Lena Dunham's muse and you are obsessed with Lena Dunham. Meg Stalter is how old? Guess.
00:31:55
Speaker 2: See, before I thought she was like 32. 35.
00:31:56
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
00:31:56
Speaker 1: So I'm close.
00:31:57
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Yeah.
00:31:59
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks she's a lot younger, but she's a 35-year-old comedian and actor from Ohio. She came up through improv and alternative comedy. So when lockdown happened, she started posting and she got really into specific characters and went viral and got kind of... famous from just being in lockdown and being silly. And then she had her first professional big kind of gig on Hacks. She was hilarious in that.
00:32:23
Speaker 2: That's how Lena Dunham actually found her. Yeah.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: And then she became the main character of Lena Dunham's Netflix show, Too Much. And now she's on Broadway for O'Mary. And she's got a first Emmy nomination this year for Hacks. And I adore her. She's incredibly polarizing. Have you seen her late night TV shows?
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've seen her like the interviews. I respect her because she plays a character in everything.
00:32:47
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: But that also makes me feel like I don't even really know who she is.
00:32:50
Speaker 1: You don't know where she starts and where she ends.
00:32:52
Speaker 2: No.
00:32:52
Speaker 1: And you don't know her real personality.
00:32:54
Speaker 2: And I would find that a bit tiring at times.
00:32:56
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But I think she knows when to turn it on and when to turn it off.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: I don't think she's ever turned off.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: Even in her own house?
00:33:03
Speaker 2: Well, we don't see that.
00:33:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not. I think that she maybe has solved embarrassment. Her entire career is built off kind of humiliating herself in very public situations and then kind of being like, whatever. And no one really knows how to handle her. My favorite thing about her is that she would be many straight men's biggest nightmare. And I think that's beautiful. I agree.
00:33:30
Speaker 2: I love that take. I really respected her when she dressed up as Kylie Jenner with her co-star from Hacks. He dressed up as Timothee Chalamet.
00:33:38
Speaker 1: In the Chrome Hearts all orange outfit. They did that. And then most recently they did fake paparazzi shots of them recreating the Carolyn Bassett fight, the JFK Jr. fight in the park.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they didn't do that when the show came out. I know.
00:33:51
Speaker 1: They did it really late. They did it like a month ago and the show came out at the beginning of the year.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: It was so funny. But I really, I love that. I think that's, I think that would honestly be us.
00:34:01
Speaker 1: They just have the best time. Can you imagine going on Jimmy Fallon and just fucking with him?
00:34:07
Speaker 2: I love that.
00:34:07
Speaker 1: Kaya Gerber and Jake Shane said that she was a genius of our generation. And I genuinely agree.
00:34:13
Speaker 2: You know what? I think you've turned me around.
00:34:15
Speaker 1: Really?
00:34:15
Speaker 2: I think when you said that she would be a man's worst nightmare, that made me think what she's doing is actually very revolutionary.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: Exactly.
00:34:24
Speaker 2: Because it's her way of also staying in the media. She's not always working on some TV show. So this is her way of staying relevant.
00:34:30
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: In a way that is grabbing people's attention.
00:34:33
Speaker 1: And also controlling her own narrative. She's kind of doing what Erlin did.
00:34:37
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: She's kind of like, okay, I'll have a career outside in many different ways. I'll also be an actress, but I will be this, this and this. I'm on Broadway, but I'm also going to make TikToks.
00:34:47
Speaker 2: Totally.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: And I think it's really cool. Meg Stalter, if you don't like her, you're just not immersed in her content enough. You're right.
00:34:54
Speaker 2: I didn't know enough about her.
00:34:56
Speaker 1: I think that I should become a Meg Stalter preacher. Now it's time for In The Field. This is where we ring one of our listeners and they tell us a shocking story. Today we're calling Jade.
00:35:08
Speaker 2: And we have the book of answers. Our producer is going to chuck it over.
00:35:12
Speaker 1: Wow, wasn't that a great catch? That was a really good catch.
00:35:15
Speaker 2: That was like she used to do basketball. Anyways, now the book of answers here is a book that has a range of different responses that will be used at the end. We'll go into more depth later.
00:35:26
Speaker 1: It's the reward that Jade gets for telling us a vulnerable story. She then gets an answer to a question that she's been wondering about.
00:35:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. So without further ado, let's call Jade up.
00:35:38
Speaker 1: Can you hear that?
00:35:39
Speaker 2: Yes. Hello. Hi, Jade. Hello. How's it going? Good. How are you?
00:35:41
Speaker 1: Amazing. Thank you for calling in. We're so excited. Take the floor, Jade. Take the floor. All right.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: So....
00:36:00
Speaker 3: My boyfriend and I have been getting into doing massages on each other over night time, like an oil massage. We're trying to learn like how to do it properly so we can stop going to actual masseuse because we want to save some money. But so my best friend and her partner invited us to a massage workshop.
00:36:23
Speaker 1: We paid for it.
00:36:24
Speaker 3: It was like a little expensive, but we're like, you know.
00:36:27
Speaker 2: How much did it cost? Do you mind me asking?
00:36:30
Speaker 3: It was like around $ 400 for a three-hour workshop. Yeah, so my best friend had invited us to go.
00:36:36
Speaker 2: We said yes, we paid.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: And then we got there and it was like a house. And we were like a little bit like, oh, is this legit?
00:36:47
Speaker 2: But then we're like, yeah, no, it's fine.
00:36:48
Speaker 3: And then these two ladies like came up to.
00:36:51
Speaker 2: Us to greet us at the door. Okay.
00:36:54
Speaker 1: It kind of felt a little.
00:36:56
Speaker 3: Bit strange like they held our hands and then started putting their hands on our chests very.
00:37:01
Speaker 1: Woo woo like it was all very woo woo.
00:37:04
Speaker 3: There was like you know dimmed lighting we couldn't really see in there too much um and they were like you know just telling us to close our eyes we're doing some breathing exercises which was really cool but then they started.
00:37:17
Speaker 2: Like going yes yes and.
00:37:20
Speaker 3: Like laughing while we're doing it but like Some sort of.
00:37:24
Speaker 2: Like Hansel and Gretel.
00:37:25
Speaker 1: We were both just.
00:37:26
Speaker 3: Kind of like... You know when you're trying not to laugh and you just stand there going along with it? And then we go inside and everyone was naked. And there were lots of dicks, lots of tits, lots of bums.
00:37:40
Speaker 1: Were your friends in there?
00:37:42
Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't see them at this stage because it was very dark.
00:37:45
Speaker 2: It wasn't an orgy.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: However, it turned out that it was a tantric masturbation course.
00:37:52
Speaker 2: Do we not read the fine print?
00:37:54
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
00:37:54
Speaker 3: We were really last minute sign up. So we didn't get the paperwork until we were in the car on the way. But we didn't realize that that's why we got.
00:38:02
Speaker 2: A consent form.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: Because we were like.
00:38:05
Speaker 3: My boyfriend in the car was like, we have to give consent.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: And I was like, consent for what? And he's like, I don't know. There's no one.
00:38:11
Speaker 1: It's just a message. And I'm like, Yeah, all right, just sign it, whatever.
00:38:15
Speaker 3: But, yeah, so we go inside. There's people naked everywhere, and they're like, just take your clothes off and find a spot on a yoga mat. And then my best friend comes in, and she's like, hello.
00:38:27
Speaker 1: She's, like, wearing a.
00:38:28
Speaker 3: Robe, and I'm, like, looking at her like, what's going on? But it was so quiet in there with, like, the meditation music and the candle lights. I didn't want to, like, say anything because it was very.
00:38:38
Speaker 2: Quiet and everyone would have heard me. So....
00:38:43
Speaker 3: We went through with this tantric masturbation course. And I ended up wanking off my boyfriend in front of about 30 other people.
00:38:53
Speaker 1: Like one by one? No, what they were.
00:38:57
Speaker 2: It's like the Mexican wave.
00:39:02
Speaker 3: There was literally like the two ladies that were running it and they were demonstrating so that you could see one of them at all times and they had like, these men that they were demonstrating on.
00:39:15
Speaker 2: And then they would swap.
00:39:16
Speaker 3: So the women got demonstrated on for an hour and a half, and then the women demonstrated on the men for an hour and a half.
00:39:23
Speaker 1: I thought with Tantric you weren't meant to touch.
00:39:27
Speaker 3: Well, I was definitely touching at this one. I definitely got a little bit fingered in front of a lot of people.
00:39:35
Speaker 1: What did you say to your best friend? Because, like, if that happened to.
00:39:39
Speaker 3: Us, I'd be like.
00:39:40
Speaker 2: like, what the fuck?
00:39:41
Speaker 1: I know. I'd be like, what kind of sick joke? I wouldn't ever talk to you again.
00:39:45
Speaker 2: I don't care about your kinks, but don't involve me.
00:39:48
Speaker 1: Your boyfriend's such a good sport. Like, he just went, all right.
00:39:51
Speaker 3: And when we first got there, he was like, I'm not getting naked.
00:39:54
Speaker 1: And I was like, totally fair. I don't want to get naked either.
00:39:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:39:57
Speaker 3: And then like, you know, it actually, it ended up being quite hot.
00:40:02
Speaker 1: Of course it's hot. Jacking each other off.
00:40:05
Speaker 2: But the next twist.
00:40:08
Speaker 3: There was this other older couple. And we were trying not to like make eye contact with them because.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: It was very awkward. We were just on two yoga mats.
00:40:17
Speaker 3: It was kind of like a yoga class, except everyone's naked and touching each other.
00:40:20
Speaker 1: But it's only each other's partners, right? Like you're only with each other's partners. Yeah. Yes.
00:40:26
Speaker 2: Correct. Yes. What was your best friend doing?
00:40:29
Speaker 3: She was, thank God, in the opposite end.
00:40:32
Speaker 1: Of the house.
00:40:33
Speaker 2: I would make a contact. I couldn't see her.
00:40:35
Speaker 1: I couldn't see her. So when you say house, is it like just a normal suburban house?
00:40:41
Speaker 3: It kind of looks like a house, yeah.
00:40:44
Speaker 1: And you're all just in a room? Like some people are in the kitchen, some people are in the lounge room?
00:40:50
Speaker 3: Well, it was like an open plan living with like three rooms that kind of looked like lounge rooms.
00:40:56
Speaker 2: Study lounge room or something or family room.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: And then so this went for three hours.
00:41:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. You paid $ 400 to wank off your boyfriend.
00:41:07
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he said at the end.
00:41:09
Speaker 2: I could have done that at home for free. Yeah, and then. We should do this at home.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: What conversation did you have with your best friend after this?
00:41:19
Speaker 3: I was just like, what was with that?
00:41:21
Speaker 1: And she was just like, I thought you knew.
00:41:24
Speaker 2: It's a good story now. We have a good laugh about it. It's a great story.
00:41:27
Speaker 1: Would you do it again?
00:41:28
Speaker 2: I think we're good.
00:41:34
Speaker 1: We enjoyed it.
00:41:35
Speaker 3: There was definitely lots of funny memories that came out of it. Yeah.
00:41:39
Speaker 2: But, Jade, while we've got you, it's time to ask the Book of Answers a question. It has to be more of a yes or no question.
00:41:46
Speaker 3: So I guess my question is, do I pass the torch on this one? Do I invite another friend to come with me and tell her that it's just a massage course?
00:41:57
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: All right. I'm going to start flicking through and you tell me when to stop.
00:42:01
Speaker 3: Stop. No.
00:42:04
Speaker 2: We got a direct answer. It's a hard no. We've never had a no before.
00:42:08
Speaker 1: It is a hard no.
00:42:09
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
00:42:11
Speaker 1: Do not do that.
00:42:12
Speaker 2: Do not. Okay, Jade, you have your answer. Do not pass the torch.
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Speaker 1: You're not meant to pass that on.
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Speaker 2: Damn. Damn it. Beautiful. What a good story.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: Wink, wink.
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Speaker 2: Wink, wink, wink. Bye. Bye.
00:42:29
Speaker 1: The hard no is insane. We've never had that.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: That's all we have for today. We hope you liked today's episode. It was a fun one. Yeah. We had a lot of nuance. We had a lot of comedy.
00:42:40
Speaker 2: All right, let's not blow too much smoke up our arse.
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see you guys next week. Same time, same place. Comment a crocodile emoji in the Spotify comments and then I'll know you listened to the end. And also follow us on Instagram. It's in the comments pod. Follow us on TikTok. It's in the comments podcast. And have a really good day, guys.
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Speaker 2: Have a blessed day.
00:43:01
Speaker 1: Have a blessed day, sister. Sister.
00:43:04
Speaker 2: Okay, sister. Okay. Bye, sister. Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.
Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is recorded on. Canceled listeners. Do you miss Claire and Jessie? Me too, dude. Shall we call them? Wait, they both just had babies, yeah. They're probably, like, crying. The babies and them. So I don't really want to get involved in that. Anyway, have you missed laughing since cancelled ended? Lucky for you, we have a solution to your sadness. It's a new comedy podcast called In the Comments. Kind of like cancelled, but not really. But we think you'll like it. Basically, the whole thing's about what's on your For You page that week. In the episode you're about to listen to, we talk about Jacob Elordi, Erlen Harland, Meg Stalter, and also we had a caller at the end of the episode who told us about how she accidentally ended up in an orgy-like situation. You heard that right, yeah. So have a listen, and if you like it, come and follow our feed, and then you can listen to it every week. I will never forget the first time that I witnessed how to manipulate. I was probably three years old. I got in trouble because we had a bunny called Casper. It was in a cage and I took Casper out of his cage and let him run through the house.
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Speaker 2: And it died.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no. He didn't die, but he chewed through cables and mum got very upset. And then I got in trouble and was put into timeout and I remember being like, hmm, I don't want to be in trouble right now. I want my mum to like me again. So I walked in and I had rows of teddies in my room. And I started crying. Goodbye. And I said goodbye to each and every single one of them. I'm not loved in this house anymore. Goodbye.
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Speaker 2: Was your mum hearing this?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she felt really bad and then she went, oh, I'm so sorry. And then I remember my brain going.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so that was performative.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I remember my brain going. that was easy.
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Speaker 2: And that's how you wanted to be an actor.
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Speaker 1: And then also, um, you know, I was around three at the same age and you have to give up your dummy. And I apparently was like really kind of eager to give up my dummy and I loved it so much. And mum said, you know, you went all day and you were like going along with me and you were being like, yep, I feel like I'm growing up and this is great. And then she put me to bed and She goes, you just went to bed so easily. Like you weren't freaking out at all. You just said, yep, I'm fine without a dummy.
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Speaker 2: Because you hid the dummy?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hid the dummies all over the house. And she said for two months.
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Speaker 1: You're a hoarder. For two months, I would just go find every night. I hid so many dummies and I wouldn't tell her where they were.
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Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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Speaker 1: I would just go, no.
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Speaker 2: You were a manipulative child. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: Smart.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Three, two, one.
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Speaker 2: What's up, superstars?
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Speaker 1: I got nervous too. You say what's up every time. And you should know by now. It is what up.
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Speaker 2: You should know by now that I like to say what's up. Anyway, what up, superstars? This is Liv James. You want to say your name?
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Speaker 1: So I'm Liv James and that's Liv Coleman. And today we're in the comments again, episode five. We've got some voices in the background today. We've got Jess, who is our social editor. And then we've also got Coco. Editor, wow. You're promoted, Jess. Promoted to editor-in-chief.
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Speaker 2: Social producer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, social producer. And then we've also got Coco. Coco's our producer. And then they're just going to laugh at us. So we feel like less alone here. Yeah, we wanted more positive feedback in real time. So this was my solution, putting an audience. Yeah. I like performing.
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Speaker 2: Because, yeah, we are performers.
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Speaker 1: We are.
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Speaker 2: So now we're talking about what happened on our For You page over the last week, today, yesterday. Speaking of yesterday, Erlin Harland posted haircut photos.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen this yet. I am not necessarily a super fan of this man. I like him and I like his essence. Do you follow him, Coco?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You follow him. I just realized I'm going to follow now.
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Speaker 1: So I would say that you were the biggest fan of him and then you didn't even follow him.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know this about me. I never follow people I really care about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.
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Speaker 2: It's weird, yeah. Because I'd rather have it more of like a, oh, surprise. Like I've chosen to interact with their page. I'm giving them more page views.
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Speaker 1: I don't even understand the psychology of that.
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Speaker 2: But back to the haircut. He has got a buzz cut now. As you know, he had quite a long blonde bob. It was signature hair. during the World Cup and all of his games, it almost became sort of a costume piece. Like people would go to the games wearing a bob.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it became who he was. He looks like a Viking.
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Speaker 2: Oh, exactly. Yeah. So he's got the caption, new season, new trim. He is the coolest guy I know. Reason being.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 1: He kind of still looks like he's got his ponytail, though, doesn't he?
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Speaker 2: What do you mean? There's literally nothing there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it kind of just looks like he's doing a slick back. Like, do you know when you do a slick back bun and you kind of think, hmm, this is what I'd look like bald?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just a you thing. Oh.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's what he looks like with his little.
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Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit. You know what it is? It's like Hamilton. Oh. Alexander Hamilton.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't like musicals other than La La Land.
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Speaker 2: Well, when I have my hair slicked back, that's what I feel like. Oh, okay. But Jude Bellingham was in his comment section saying no way. So, like, their little love.
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Speaker 1: Their bromance is still going on.
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Speaker 2: Bromance continues. But it is buzz cut season, as Lord would say. Jake Shane got a buzz cut recently. Also, there's photos of Connor Story from, like, Heat of Rivalry. He's got a buzz cut apparently now. I think that's for the show, actually. Hot. Exactly. It's like the loss of his signature look.
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Speaker 1: Do you like it or do you think that.
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Speaker 2: I prefer it.
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Speaker 1: Really? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
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Speaker 1: And hair can grow back.
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Speaker 2: What I wanted to talk about before we move on is that he's posted a YouTube video of the transition, of his hair transition. He, like, sorry, I was a bit like, I gotta make sure it's hair transition.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it's just really funny to me.
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Speaker 1: Your choice of words are so funny to me.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: Transformation, I think you mean.
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Speaker 2: No, hair trans. Oh, you're right. Okay, with his hair transformation. Yeah. I think he's become sort of an influencer.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, duh.
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 1: He's mega famous. No, but he's not.
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Speaker 2: He's not just famous for being an athlete. He's like doing influencer content. I'm like Alex Earl, Harland. Same circle.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: They could be collabing. He posted a YouTube video the other day and he's on his yacht and he's golfing and he's just like talking about people that are like going on boats to see him. And I'm like, that's something Alex Earl would do.
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Speaker 1: That'd be so much fun. And that's nice because as well, I feel like footballers go through a certain amount of fame. It's same with Olympic athletes where they have this like small moment when the World Cup happens or the Olympics happen where they're mega famous. I understand that football has an incredible world of very famous people.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And like, I'm probably naive to how famous these guys are. But he's making sure that a huge range of people really care about him.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Smart, smart move.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like Beckham. What's his first name?
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Speaker 1: David.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, David Beckham, growing up, because I remember watching the documentary on him. I was going to say Brooklyn and I was like, that's not right. David Beckham, he wasn't just an athlete. He became sort of like a massive model at the time for all these different sport brands. Yes. And so he's been able to sustain his career because he also was like, in the zeitgeist and pop culture. I think Harland is doing the same thing. In comparison to some other soccer players, you have no idea who their names are. I know Erling, right? You know him?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know him a little bit because of a certain kind of niche that he's involved with.
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Speaker 2: Tell me.
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Speaker 1: And that is the luxury handbag niche. He has an incredible collection of Hermes bags.
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Speaker 2: I did not know this.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: That's the only reason I really know him. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 1: How much do you think that he's like bag collection is valued at? It's around 700,000.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And then he's also spent an additional 400,000 on one single bag called the Himalaya for his girlfriend. That's a Himalaya. Oh, beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Very mountain range.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That is a crocodile skin bag that is white in the center and then brown on the sides. And it looks like a mountain range. Yes. Not really.
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Speaker 2: It looks like a snake. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It looks like a snake.
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Speaker 2: It's basically white though.
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Speaker 1: Let's be real. It's very expensive. And speaking of David Beckham, another person that owns this bag is Victoria Beckham. And these bags go for 400,000 US. So that is nearly a million dollars Australian. Yeah. Which is quite incredible if we think about it. Anyway, it got me thinking about all the men that have incredible bag collections. Harlan's one of them. Jacob Elordi's another one. Henry, Henry, Henry, who is, oh, I love him. He's an influencer. He famously dated.
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Speaker 2: Madeline Klein. Yes.
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Speaker 1: He famously dated Madeline Klein, who was on Outer Banks.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Why are you saying Outer Banks?
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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know she was on Outer Banks. Shut up.
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Speaker 3: Shut up.
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Speaker 2: Dude we're both we're warming up oh yeah black socks they never get dirty the longer you wear them the stronger they get sometimes I think I should wash them but then a voice says to me don't do it yet not yet not yet not yet okay my my vocal cords are warmed up that's a little song that's like black leather red leather that was crazy beautiful thank.
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Speaker 1: You Henry Henry Henry influencer he does also.
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Speaker 2: Just call him Henry please I hate it okay.
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Speaker 1: Fine Henry, Henry, Henry, influencer. He just did a feature on Vogue.
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Speaker 2: A magazine, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Vogue did like a feature on all of his vintage collection of designer bags. He's got the coolest collection. Where does he get his money from? He's an influencer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but sure, you know.
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Speaker 1: He's got 1.1 million followers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that feels like a lot of bags.
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Speaker 1: No, I think you'd be surprised about how much money these kids are making. So he has a collection of designer bags, mostly vintage. He travels around the world and he says that his biggest joy about going to places is making sure that he can source a cool vintage bag. One of which is a sequined Chanel bag. From 1997, that is his birth year, I'm like, what do I have for my birth year? I have baby teeth. That's about it. So there's all these men, famous men, who are now collecting designer bags. They used to collect watches, I would say, men.
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Speaker 2: Very true.
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Speaker 1: Do you know the symbolism of having an expensive watch? It's to represent how much time, how much money. Hold on. Watches tell you how much your time is worth. okay so depending on how expensive your watch is symbolism to how much your time's worth right so i'm like what are designer bags representing and i feel like how.
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Speaker 2: Much baggage you have oh.
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Speaker 1: Erling has massive yeah like extra large hermes bags so that means that your favorite guy he's a big boy though What do you reckon he's carrying in the big boy bag?
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Speaker 2: Just a collection of taxidermy animals. He's just putting them all in. Pokemon cards. For listeners who don't know, Holland has a massive collection of taxidermy.
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Speaker 1: Do you think it's hot that men have handbags?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's because they're comfortable in their masculinity.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. And I do think it's the final boss of a performative male.
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Speaker 2: Totally. I.
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Speaker 1: Wonder if it's like authentically done. I'm rarely seeing men on the streets unless they're paparazzi.
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Speaker 2: Well, I just want to know, what have you got in there besides your wallet? Like I would love if my boyfriend said, babe, you just carry the keys. I've got your drink bottles, snacks, period pads, tampons. I've got that all in my little, you know, bag. That's the dream. I think that's what Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner are doing.
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Speaker 1: A photo of Timothy went viral once of him with a backpack and Kylie had no bag at Coachella. And everyone's like, oh, Timothy's carrying all her stuff. But I think the watch is interesting because it's like more of a peacocking moment for men to men. Whereas the bag is more of a peacocking moment for men to women. And that is a total cultural change. So when you asked me what Erland's putting in his bag it's actually reported that he has an Hermes bag to hold one of his little Hermes bags so he puts an Hermes bag in his Hermes bag.
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Speaker 4: But what is he doing with mini Hermes bags it's just like a status thing it is such a status it's like having a watch yeah well because he's not wearing a lots of like you know suits and like watches I don't think self-expression.
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Speaker 1: Yeah So there was this creator on TikTok called Nick who made a video that was like things you should outgrow by the time you're 25. And then he just screamed Snapchat, which I hardcore agree with. I only have Snapchat because I communicate with one single friend on it.
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Speaker 2: You still have it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do still have it.
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Speaker 2: 26.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. But it made me think of other things that you should outgrow by the time you're 25. And obviously I'm 26. So these are the things that I can't do anymore. Yeah. And you're 24. So you're nearly there. You're 23.
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Speaker 2: Bro just added a year.
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Speaker 1: The way you looked at me with disgust.
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Speaker 2: I was like, you were literally at my birthday party and he did it on my birthday.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, I've come up with a small list of things that might be quite daunting to you, but I do want you to be aware that you need to let go of these things in a year and a half.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So hating small dogs. As I've gotten older, my palate for small dogs has grown and particularly chihuahuas. I find them cuter and cuter as time goes by. Okay. Being embarrassed to go somewhere alone. I think you're pretty good at that though.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm just a child of like moving around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you go to movies alone, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: But I do think my thing is I can go to dinner, cafe, movie by myself. But if I'm going to a pub when there's a bunch of hot people, I get a bit nervous about walking in by myself.
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Speaker 1: But I think that's normal. That's normal. Thinking naps are lazy. You need to let go of that. People having naps during the day is beautiful.
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Speaker 2: I just don't nap.
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Speaker 1: You should try. Yeah. Did you come from a nat positive family?
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Speaker 2: My mum's very nat positive. My dad's not. And I think I follow after my dad a bit more.
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Speaker 1: And lastly, you should never be scared to make a phone call by the time you're 25.
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Speaker 2: Agree.
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Speaker 1: Just like let go, call people. I cold call you sometimes.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just, I'm into a cold call.
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Speaker 2: But I don't like when it's an unknown number.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, neither do I, but I'll let that ring through. And I'm like, if you need to talk to me, you'll leave a message.
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Speaker 2: I got the funniest voicemail the other day. So this unknown number called and I was out with my friends. I was like, I'm not picking it up. And then it was like, I can actually read you the transcript because I have it. It was so funny. She goes, I think she might be a nun. She goes, bless you, my sister. So funny. So sorry, I haven't got in touch with you. I've had no phone. So I'm like, oh my God, she's at the church. And then she goes, I haven't, because it's like weird because the transcript is- Wait, can you play it? Am I allowed to? Legally, we can't play the voicemail. So I'm going to read you the transcript and picture an elderly voice. Bless you, my sister. I'm so sorry I haven't got in touch with you. I've had no phone. I'm not well either. I haven't been, hasn't been a good year for my health. But I'm moving on, darling, and praise the Lord what he's doing. And sorry I haven't contacted beforehand, but I've got no phone. I've got a new one now, and God bless you and love you. Bye now.
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Speaker 1: Is she letting you know she's dying? I don't know, and I'm really worried.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the middle, and I need to connect these two people.
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Speaker 1: Wait, did you try and call her back?
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Speaker 2: Yes, but the number, like, it was no longer in service. So I don't know what's happened to her.
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Speaker 1: That can't be real, brah.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I promise you, dude, it's real.
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Speaker 1: Proof.
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Speaker 2: What were we even talking about?
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Speaker 1: We were talking about things you should get over and I said phone call. Yes, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, I have my own take on this trend and I think it's that we shouldn't outgrow things.
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Speaker 1: Which was an interesting take for me.
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Speaker 2: Last year I read this side quest piece by Eri Barry and I think it really relates to this topic. So she writes, I've probably committed a thousand tiny betrayals against myself in the name of being grown. which I thought was very beautiful. And then she asked herself a series of questions, including what did you love before you felt embarrassed? What did you dislike before you talked yourself into liking it? And what did you believe about the world before you learned to manage your expectations? And so I think, I think because I also relate to the fact that I think If you think about drinking and going to certain parties, there are so many things you do to either fit in or to feel like you have grown up.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And I think about that a lot when I see adults making childish things seem cool again. Yeah. And there's something almost rebellious when you choose to not outgrow anything.
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Speaker 1: Yes. I agree. And you know what, not to float my own boat, but the things that I gave you there weren't necessarily like disconnecting from your younger self, right? It's like not about growing up. It was more about maybe even like, you know, not liking small dogs. Like you've got to like them when you're older. Like it's just like connecting yourself with those little things and not thinking that you shouldn't do things or that you should be acting in a certain way or that you should be embarrassed to be alone. It's being more at peace with, With who you are and enjoying your own company.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And your own mind, which I think is what she's trying to say.
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Speaker 2: But look, if I was to continue with what you said, leggings, I think you should outgrow that by 25.
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Speaker 1: Interesting.
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Speaker 2: Mocha. That's basically hot chocolate. Get over yourself. Any sort of allergy. I just think by adulthood, this bitch.
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Speaker 1: Was just being like, you know, never, never let go of your younger self. But anyway, I do have a strong opinion on this. If you've even got allergies, which is something you absolutely cannot control and is fully out of like any kind of, no one can really fix that for you. You should fucking grow out of it though. On that, it reminded me when you said that you don't think that anyone should outgrow anything. I just want to tell you a story and this person didn't outgrow a specific thing and I want you to know if they're in the right considering you think that no one should outgrow anything. I'm interested to get your reaction on this too, Jess.
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Speaker 2: You specifically.
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Speaker 1: Wedding planner Georgie Mitchell. Georgie told a story that she'd heard from a makeup artist. She had just done the bride's makeup and then the bride goes, okay, I'm going to go to the bathroom before I walk down the aisle and then I'll come back here for extra touch-ups. She goes to the bathroom and she walks in on her groom.
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Speaker 3: Wanky.
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Speaker 2: Nope.
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Speaker 1: With his mum. What do you think the groom was doing?
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Speaker 2: To the mum? I don't... I'm... Okay, I think the mum... Was maybe, you know, when moms like lick their fingers and they're like rubbing shit off their face.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like getting your thumb, licking it and then rubbing their cheek.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Which you think someone should grow out of that by that time.
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Speaker 2: When you're getting married. Like, you know, come on.
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Speaker 1: So no, the groom was being allegedly breastfed by his mom.
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Speaker 3: No!
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Speaker 1: So, because I understand that you think that you, so you thought that people shouldn't really outgrow anything. So you think that's fine?
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Speaker 2: Yuck, man.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Yuck, why is she still producing milk? It means she never stopped.
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Speaker 2: Is she having like a cryptic pregnancy?
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Speaker 1: No, it means that they never stopped. So he's been breastfed his whole life. It was never confirmed if the woman called off the wedding or not. So I think I would have to, that's a very viral story that went all over the internet obviously and no one knows if these people got married or not it was probably like a like a this is your last one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You're not going to be able to come over anymore.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's how we're going to decide. Like we're both single, but we'll figure out if we really like someone. I will say to you, I'll say, would you let him, would you let him get away with.
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Speaker 2: Being breastfed at 25? We were prepping for this episode and Liv James could not shut up about the wildebeest migration. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think that David Attenborough and I would have a very similar For You page. Maybe minus New York City house tours.
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Speaker 2: Bro does not have a For You page.
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Speaker 1: But I have no idea why, but I seem to be appointed as the Australian correspondent for the Great Migration. Do you know what it is?
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Speaker 2: So I've seen what a wildebeest looks like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I didn't really know what it was until today. Yeah, wait, what did you say when I brought up... Yeah, it's called a wildebeest, but you.
00:20:59
Speaker 1: Didn't even know if a wildebeest was an animal. You said, what is that?
00:21:03
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, true. I did say, what is that?
00:21:05
Speaker 1: So do you know, top line, what the Great Migration is? A little bit of, are you smarter than a fifth grader?
00:21:11
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
00:21:12
Speaker 1: It is the largest continuous land-based wildlife movement on Earth. So wildebeest, there's around 1.5 million. They travel across a national park in Tanzania and... They then end up in Kenya.
00:21:26
Speaker 2: So how does this relate to anything?
00:21:28
Speaker 1: Thousands of animals all together migrating from one place to another.
00:21:33
Speaker 2: Are they violent?
00:21:34
Speaker 1: These animals? Yeah. No, no, no, no. Wildebeests mainly eat grass. Oh, really? Yeah. And they follow the seasonal rains, so they have fresh grass.
00:21:44
Speaker 2: Aw. Do you ride one? Can you ride them?
00:21:46
Speaker 1: No, bro.
00:21:46
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:21:47
Speaker 1: You would probably quite like them.
00:21:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:21:49
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. I didn't understand how many wildebeest there were in the world, or at least in Africa. 1.6 million? That's a lot in one place, bro. Yeah, it is. Can you imagine if the population, sorry, can someone figure out the population of Sydney? Can you imagine if we all got together and said, let's go for a walk? That would be crazy. Wait, that's so cute.
00:22:12
Speaker 2: And we followed the rain.
00:22:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, but can you imagine if 1.6 million people got together and said, let's go?
00:22:18
Speaker 2: Guess how many kangaroos there are in Australia?
00:22:20
Speaker 1: Three million.
00:22:21
Speaker 2: No, way less. Three million. What?
00:22:23
Speaker 1: Fifty million kangaroos in Australia, but they're not all together. I've only really seen around 50 all together at once.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: God.
00:22:29
Speaker 1: It's not about the number. It's about the fact that they're all together.
00:22:33
Speaker 2: Fifty million coming at you. I would be shit scared.
00:22:38
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:22:39
Speaker 3: Same.
00:22:41
Speaker 2: But I just, I needed to reiterate that.
00:22:43
Speaker 1: 50 million of anything coming at me, even if it was like cute puppies, I'd be fucking terrified. Now it's specifically gone viral because the wildebeest start this great migration. They all have to go to this river bank and they just stand there. And then one of them decides to cross the river.
00:23:01
Speaker 2: Now the river.
00:23:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly. The river itself is infested with crocodiles. So it's quite risky to do so. Can you imagine that? All right, boys. They're all gearing up. They could be there for hours and one of them will just cross. The top comment was on 90,000 likes and it was saying, how does one declare themselves the line leader of the Great Migration, right? And I was like, yeah, how do these wildebeest choose who's in charge? The answer, they don't.
00:23:30
Speaker 2: Oh.
00:23:30
Speaker 1: It's just whoever feels like doing it. National Geographic says that they don't have a natural leader and they can stand there for hours until one of them goes, fuck it, let's go.
00:23:39
Speaker 2: I love that.
00:23:41
Speaker 1: Do you think you have what it takes to be the first to go?
00:23:45
Speaker 2: See, you know what this reminds me of? In Divergent when Tris was the first to jump.
00:23:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:23:51
Speaker 2: See, there's a bit of me in there. If it was just you and I, I feel quite maternal. So if I felt maternal of a group, I'd be like, let me take one of the team.
00:24:01
Speaker 1: Um, well, I just like to tell you what you just signed up for. So in the great migration, you are roughly walking 800 kilometers on foot. And that is basically from Sydney to Melbourne nonstop. You can go up to five days without drinking. You need to be able to run about 80 kilometers per hour because not only are there crocodiles that want to kill you in the rivers, there are lions that want to eat you on the land.
00:24:23
Speaker 2: Isn't every wildebeest going? So you don't even have a choice. Yeah.
00:24:27
Speaker 1: Well, no. Yeah, exactly.
00:24:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So it's like you either walk, buddy, or you're going.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: Exactly. So you have no choice but to do this. If you give birth during all of this, your baby has about seven minutes to learn how to stand and then 24 hours to learn how to run. So maternity leave around this time is seven minutes. And if they don't, you're both fucked. To top it all off. There's all these humans that are watching you filming it and then making Hope Corps videos of you and your mates.
00:24:56
Speaker 2: People listening to this going, I thought this was about pop culture.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: I love it.
00:25:01
Speaker 2: I love it.
00:25:02
Speaker 1: No, I just find it crazy. Like, Stacey from, like, Arkansas is filming, like, you know. She's like, oh, my God, it's so beautiful. And then, like, three meters over, a crocodile's just gone.
00:25:12
Speaker 2: And it's like, yay, the Great Migration. Yeah. I don't know. You've made this the hardest transition from wildebeest to gem maxing, but we're going to do it.
00:25:24
Speaker 1: Well, you just did it.
00:25:26
Speaker 2: I just did it.
00:25:26
Speaker 1: And that was beautiful.
00:25:27
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. We just shook on it. Okay. So, Jen Maxine, when did this start? Because I saw, really, I knew it took off from the Kylie Jenner birthday.
00:25:38
Speaker 1: Top line what it is, is a lot of girls online, a lot of brands, a lot of marketing situations have gone crazy with this trend where you take rhinestones and you put it on literally everything. I mean your body. I mean your face masks. I mean your products. I mean your phones. I mean your animals.
00:25:54
Speaker 2: I mean everything.
00:25:55
Speaker 1: A lot of people are doing pregnancy announcements with their belly rhinestoned. A lot of people have been using rhinestones and stickers. Olivia Rodrigo did it for her Guts album. A lot of people have been doing it for a long time. But it spiked up and then Kylie Jenner had her birthday a few weeks ago and it was rhinestone themed, which we spoke about.
00:26:14
Speaker 2: But so many of these videos and photos, the comments are also on the side of this is really bad for the environment.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: That's all I'm seeing. And they're right.
00:26:23
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a bit of trivia with you.
00:26:25
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:26:26
Speaker 2: I've got multiple choice on some of these facts around gems. How long do you reckon they take to break down? A, 10 years. B, 100 years. C, it basically doesn't.
00:26:39
Speaker 1: 100.
00:26:41
Speaker 2: Answer is C. So in landfill, PVC can take up to 1,000 years to decompose.
00:26:46
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: So all of these little gemstones that people are buying and putting on their face as a one use is just going to end up in the land forever.
00:26:55
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, so there's no microorganisms in there that can actually break it down. Can you chuck them in the recycling? A, yes. B, no. C, only if you peel them off first. We should have some like game music.
00:27:07
Speaker 1: What do you mean only if you peel them off first?
00:27:10
Speaker 2: So you know how there's like the glue bit that.
00:27:12
Speaker 1: You can peel? Yeah. I guess that because that's a weird answer.
00:27:15
Speaker 2: Answer is B because it's plastic fused to an adhesive backing. Separating the two layers is possible but too expensive for most recycling facilities. So they're going straight into landfill basically no matter what.
00:27:27
Speaker 1: Damn. yeah so our actions have consequences yeah this is hard for the girls that love like doing whimsy stuff like gemstones i mean we have tooth gems on our teeth yes they're not a one one use situation so that's making it okay last year they'll last a year so that's better than just putting a gem on your face once what can we do to still be a whimsy gal tell me well.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: I did want to touch on this point so Being whimsical has almost become a trend to prove that we are the version of ourselves who never really needed proving. Going analog, healing your inner child, buying a coloring book that costs like $ 150.
00:28:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:28:03
Speaker 2: All of that, it's more of a stereotype of being what whimsical in your mind means. But solutions to the actual gem maxing trend.
00:28:12
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:28:13
Speaker 2: Fish tank gravel. And you can glue that onto anything. I thought this was quite nice and you might like it.
00:28:19
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm sorry. I do not understand whatsoever. What are you telling me to do with the fish tank gravel?
00:28:25
Speaker 2: I'm telling you to get a hot glue gun.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: And use them to bedazzle.
00:28:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, mate.
00:28:29
Speaker 1: Oh, so they're rocks. So they're natural. They're eco-friendly.
00:28:32
Speaker 2: It's sort of like sea glass because I actually wrote sea glass down as well. So that's like ocean tumble glass.
00:28:37
Speaker 1: That's cool. That's like those girls that get rocks and shine them in those things. Yeah, exactly. You should shine your own rocks and use them to bedazzle.
00:28:45
Speaker 2: Exactly. Before we move on, there are some other solutions to just being whimsical and not feeling like it needs to be something worth capturing a photo of.
00:28:52
Speaker 1: And performative.
00:28:53
Speaker 2: You can make a wish on everything. Eyelashes, 11-11, dandelions. True, I love doing that. The first star, the last chip in a packet. Collect one treasure a month, a shiny rock, a weird leaf. True.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: True.
00:29:05
Speaker 2: Reread the book that made you believe in something as a kid, Twilight, Harry Potter, Compliment a Stranger, and take the long way home.
00:29:12
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. So those are little things that you can be whimsy on a daily basis. Yes. Truly, there is easy ways to be whimsy that don't involve hurting the environment.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: You know what was beautiful? I saw a man walking down the street and he was just singing. And I was like, this is a bit weird. And I said, who decided that was weird though?
00:29:28
Speaker 1: I think it was the same man. And he genuinely looked quite dangerous. He was rapping and screaming.
00:29:34
Speaker 2: No, but I think there is something beautiful about forgoing what you think is normal.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: Wasn't that man?
00:29:40
Speaker 2: I saw a TikTok. It was this creator saying influencers, they would block.
00:29:47
Speaker 1: Have you ever blocked an influencer?
00:29:48
Speaker 2: No, I've never.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: Nor have I. but I know people do it.
00:29:51
Speaker 2: With TikTok, you can cater your For You page so strongly that you will never see someone that you don't really want to see, in my opinion.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: To be honest, if I go on to the following part of my TikTok, I get annoyed. So I only want to scroll my For You page, but there are some people I don't want to see in there. For example, we wanted to do this trend for ourselves.
00:30:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, who would.
00:30:11
Speaker 1: block us yeah who would block us and who would not like us I know that I if I had any influence Jake Paul would block me.
00:30:21
Speaker 2: That's a good one he would not why would he block you.
00:30:24
Speaker 1: I just think I would say something that he oh yeah be upset.
00:30:28
Speaker 2: About did I also say Jacob Elordi because I think I'd be commenting under his photos being like I love you I love you I love you and he'd be like block you get.
00:30:36
Speaker 1: More famous and you do that Yeah. Oh. That's beautiful. Well, on that, I said probably Dakota Johnson and Role Model because of how much was spoken about them on our podcast and I find that weird.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But they've broken up now, so it doesn't even matter.
00:30:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they would not like us.
00:30:51
Speaker 2: Oh, recircle.
00:30:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. They probably broke up because of us.
00:30:54
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Anyway, I also said Stassi Baby because I think I'd be like, invite me on your yacht.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: I think probably Alex L on that point too. I think there's something if he, maybe, oh, Alex Cooper, I reckon I probably would not get along with her. Oh, I would not.
00:31:07
Speaker 2: You know when you can just tell, you're like, no.
00:31:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think it would gel. But I'm saying that without knowing her and I'm open to change.
00:31:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: I looked up why people block celebrities because it doesn't really make sense for normal people to block a celebrity and there's a psychology term for it and it's called a parasocial breakup. Ah. So it's when someone gets too overwhelmed with someone else's content that they know but the other person doesn't and therefore they blocked. Meg Stalter is my favorite celebrity. How do you feel about her?
00:31:35
Speaker 2: I feel very middle ground. I would say I'm more leaning towards not being a massive fan though.
00:31:41
Speaker 1: It's interesting. She is very polarizing and there's a lot of videos online about whether you're a Meg Stalter girl or you're not. She is Lena Dunham's muse and you are obsessed with Lena Dunham. Meg Stalter is how old? Guess.
00:31:55
Speaker 2: See, before I thought she was like 32. 35.
00:31:56
Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
00:31:56
Speaker 1: So I'm close.
00:31:57
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Yeah.
00:31:59
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks she's a lot younger, but she's a 35-year-old comedian and actor from Ohio. She came up through improv and alternative comedy. So when lockdown happened, she started posting and she got really into specific characters and went viral and got kind of... famous from just being in lockdown and being silly. And then she had her first professional big kind of gig on Hacks. She was hilarious in that.
00:32:23
Speaker 2: That's how Lena Dunham actually found her. Yeah.
00:32:25
Speaker 1: And then she became the main character of Lena Dunham's Netflix show, Too Much. And now she's on Broadway for O'Mary. And she's got a first Emmy nomination this year for Hacks. And I adore her. She's incredibly polarizing. Have you seen her late night TV shows?
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've seen her like the interviews. I respect her because she plays a character in everything.
00:32:47
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: But that also makes me feel like I don't even really know who she is.
00:32:50
Speaker 1: You don't know where she starts and where she ends.
00:32:52
Speaker 2: No.
00:32:52
Speaker 1: And you don't know her real personality.
00:32:54
Speaker 2: And I would find that a bit tiring at times.
00:32:56
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But I think she knows when to turn it on and when to turn it off.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: I don't think she's ever turned off.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: Even in her own house?
00:33:03
Speaker 2: Well, we don't see that.
00:33:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not. I think that she maybe has solved embarrassment. Her entire career is built off kind of humiliating herself in very public situations and then kind of being like, whatever. And no one really knows how to handle her. My favorite thing about her is that she would be many straight men's biggest nightmare. And I think that's beautiful. I agree.
00:33:30
Speaker 2: I love that take. I really respected her when she dressed up as Kylie Jenner with her co-star from Hacks. He dressed up as Timothee Chalamet.
00:33:38
Speaker 1: In the Chrome Hearts all orange outfit. They did that. And then most recently they did fake paparazzi shots of them recreating the Carolyn Bassett fight, the JFK Jr. fight in the park.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they didn't do that when the show came out. I know.
00:33:51
Speaker 1: They did it really late. They did it like a month ago and the show came out at the beginning of the year.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: It was so funny. But I really, I love that. I think that's, I think that would honestly be us.
00:34:01
Speaker 1: They just have the best time. Can you imagine going on Jimmy Fallon and just fucking with him?
00:34:07
Speaker 2: I love that.
00:34:07
Speaker 1: Kaya Gerber and Jake Shane said that she was a genius of our generation. And I genuinely agree.
00:34:13
Speaker 2: You know what? I think you've turned me around.
00:34:15
Speaker 1: Really?
00:34:15
Speaker 2: I think when you said that she would be a man's worst nightmare, that made me think what she's doing is actually very revolutionary.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: Exactly.
00:34:24
Speaker 2: Because it's her way of also staying in the media. She's not always working on some TV show. So this is her way of staying relevant.
00:34:30
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: In a way that is grabbing people's attention.
00:34:33
Speaker 1: And also controlling her own narrative. She's kind of doing what Erlin did.
00:34:37
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: She's kind of like, okay, I'll have a career outside in many different ways. I'll also be an actress, but I will be this, this and this. I'm on Broadway, but I'm also going to make TikToks.
00:34:47
Speaker 2: Totally.
00:34:48
Speaker 1: And I think it's really cool. Meg Stalter, if you don't like her, you're just not immersed in her content enough. You're right.
00:34:54
Speaker 2: I didn't know enough about her.
00:34:56
Speaker 1: I think that I should become a Meg Stalter preacher. Now it's time for In The Field. This is where we ring one of our listeners and they tell us a shocking story. Today we're calling Jade.
00:35:08
Speaker 2: And we have the book of answers. Our producer is going to chuck it over.
00:35:12
Speaker 1: Wow, wasn't that a great catch? That was a really good catch.
00:35:15
Speaker 2: That was like she used to do basketball. Anyways, now the book of answers here is a book that has a range of different responses that will be used at the end. We'll go into more depth later.
00:35:26
Speaker 1: It's the reward that Jade gets for telling us a vulnerable story. She then gets an answer to a question that she's been wondering about.
00:35:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. So without further ado, let's call Jade up.
00:35:38
Speaker 1: Can you hear that?
00:35:39
Speaker 2: Yes. Hello. Hi, Jade. Hello. How's it going? Good. How are you?
00:35:41
Speaker 1: Amazing. Thank you for calling in. We're so excited. Take the floor, Jade. Take the floor. All right.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: So....
00:36:00
Speaker 3: My boyfriend and I have been getting into doing massages on each other over night time, like an oil massage. We're trying to learn like how to do it properly so we can stop going to actual masseuse because we want to save some money. But so my best friend and her partner invited us to a massage workshop.
00:36:23
Speaker 1: We paid for it.
00:36:24
Speaker 3: It was like a little expensive, but we're like, you know.
00:36:27
Speaker 2: How much did it cost? Do you mind me asking?
00:36:30
Speaker 3: It was like around $ 400 for a three-hour workshop. Yeah, so my best friend had invited us to go.
00:36:36
Speaker 2: We said yes, we paid.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: And then we got there and it was like a house. And we were like a little bit like, oh, is this legit?
00:36:47
Speaker 2: But then we're like, yeah, no, it's fine.
00:36:48
Speaker 3: And then these two ladies like came up to.
00:36:51
Speaker 2: Us to greet us at the door. Okay.
00:36:54
Speaker 1: It kind of felt a little.
00:36:56
Speaker 3: Bit strange like they held our hands and then started putting their hands on our chests very.
00:37:01
Speaker 1: Woo woo like it was all very woo woo.
00:37:04
Speaker 3: There was like you know dimmed lighting we couldn't really see in there too much um and they were like you know just telling us to close our eyes we're doing some breathing exercises which was really cool but then they started.
00:37:17
Speaker 2: Like going yes yes and.
00:37:20
Speaker 3: Like laughing while we're doing it but like Some sort of.
00:37:24
Speaker 2: Like Hansel and Gretel.
00:37:25
Speaker 1: We were both just.
00:37:26
Speaker 3: Kind of like... You know when you're trying not to laugh and you just stand there going along with it? And then we go inside and everyone was naked. And there were lots of dicks, lots of tits, lots of bums.
00:37:40
Speaker 1: Were your friends in there?
00:37:42
Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't see them at this stage because it was very dark.
00:37:45
Speaker 2: It wasn't an orgy.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: However, it turned out that it was a tantric masturbation course.
00:37:52
Speaker 2: Do we not read the fine print?
00:37:54
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
00:37:54
Speaker 3: We were really last minute sign up. So we didn't get the paperwork until we were in the car on the way. But we didn't realize that that's why we got.
00:38:02
Speaker 2: A consent form.
00:38:03
Speaker 1: Because we were like.
00:38:05
Speaker 3: My boyfriend in the car was like, we have to give consent.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: And I was like, consent for what? And he's like, I don't know. There's no one.
00:38:11
Speaker 1: It's just a message. And I'm like, Yeah, all right, just sign it, whatever.
00:38:15
Speaker 3: But, yeah, so we go inside. There's people naked everywhere, and they're like, just take your clothes off and find a spot on a yoga mat. And then my best friend comes in, and she's like, hello.
00:38:27
Speaker 1: She's, like, wearing a.
00:38:28
Speaker 3: Robe, and I'm, like, looking at her like, what's going on? But it was so quiet in there with, like, the meditation music and the candle lights. I didn't want to, like, say anything because it was very.
00:38:38
Speaker 2: Quiet and everyone would have heard me. So....
00:38:43
Speaker 3: We went through with this tantric masturbation course. And I ended up wanking off my boyfriend in front of about 30 other people.
00:38:53
Speaker 1: Like one by one? No, what they were.
00:38:57
Speaker 2: It's like the Mexican wave.
00:39:02
Speaker 3: There was literally like the two ladies that were running it and they were demonstrating so that you could see one of them at all times and they had like, these men that they were demonstrating on.
00:39:15
Speaker 2: And then they would swap.
00:39:16
Speaker 3: So the women got demonstrated on for an hour and a half, and then the women demonstrated on the men for an hour and a half.
00:39:23
Speaker 1: I thought with Tantric you weren't meant to touch.
00:39:27
Speaker 3: Well, I was definitely touching at this one. I definitely got a little bit fingered in front of a lot of people.
00:39:35
Speaker 1: What did you say to your best friend? Because, like, if that happened to.
00:39:39
Speaker 3: Us, I'd be like.
00:39:40
Speaker 2: like, what the fuck?
00:39:41
Speaker 1: I know. I'd be like, what kind of sick joke? I wouldn't ever talk to you again.
00:39:45
Speaker 2: I don't care about your kinks, but don't involve me.
00:39:48
Speaker 1: Your boyfriend's such a good sport. Like, he just went, all right.
00:39:51
Speaker 3: And when we first got there, he was like, I'm not getting naked.
00:39:54
Speaker 1: And I was like, totally fair. I don't want to get naked either.
00:39:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:39:57
Speaker 3: And then like, you know, it actually, it ended up being quite hot.
00:40:02
Speaker 1: Of course it's hot. Jacking each other off.
00:40:05
Speaker 2: But the next twist.
00:40:08
Speaker 3: There was this other older couple. And we were trying not to like make eye contact with them because.
00:40:14
Speaker 2: It was very awkward. We were just on two yoga mats.
00:40:17
Speaker 3: It was kind of like a yoga class, except everyone's naked and touching each other.
00:40:20
Speaker 1: But it's only each other's partners, right? Like you're only with each other's partners. Yeah. Yes.
00:40:26
Speaker 2: Correct. Yes. What was your best friend doing?
00:40:29
Speaker 3: She was, thank God, in the opposite end.
00:40:32
Speaker 1: Of the house.
00:40:33
Speaker 2: I would make a contact. I couldn't see her.
00:40:35
Speaker 1: I couldn't see her. So when you say house, is it like just a normal suburban house?
00:40:41
Speaker 3: It kind of looks like a house, yeah.
00:40:44
Speaker 1: And you're all just in a room? Like some people are in the kitchen, some people are in the lounge room?
00:40:50
Speaker 3: Well, it was like an open plan living with like three rooms that kind of looked like lounge rooms.
00:40:56
Speaker 2: Study lounge room or something or family room.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: And then so this went for three hours.
00:41:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. You paid $ 400 to wank off your boyfriend.
00:41:07
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he said at the end.
00:41:09
Speaker 2: I could have done that at home for free. Yeah, and then. We should do this at home.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: What conversation did you have with your best friend after this?
00:41:19
Speaker 3: I was just like, what was with that?
00:41:21
Speaker 1: And she was just like, I thought you knew.
00:41:24
Speaker 2: It's a good story now. We have a good laugh about it. It's a great story.
00:41:27
Speaker 1: Would you do it again?
00:41:28
Speaker 2: I think we're good.
00:41:34
Speaker 1: We enjoyed it.
00:41:35
Speaker 3: There was definitely lots of funny memories that came out of it. Yeah.
00:41:39
Speaker 2: But, Jade, while we've got you, it's time to ask the Book of Answers a question. It has to be more of a yes or no question.
00:41:46
Speaker 3: So I guess my question is, do I pass the torch on this one? Do I invite another friend to come with me and tell her that it's just a massage course?
00:41:57
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: All right. I'm going to start flicking through and you tell me when to stop.
00:42:01
Speaker 3: Stop. No.
00:42:04
Speaker 2: We got a direct answer. It's a hard no. We've never had a no before.
00:42:08
Speaker 1: It is a hard no.
00:42:09
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
00:42:11
Speaker 1: Do not do that.
00:42:12
Speaker 2: Do not. Okay, Jade, you have your answer. Do not pass the torch.
00:42:15
Speaker 1: You're not meant to pass that on.
00:42:17
Speaker 2: Damn. Damn it. Beautiful. What a good story.
00:42:26
Speaker 1: Wink, wink.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: Wink, wink, wink. Bye. Bye.
00:42:29
Speaker 1: The hard no is insane. We've never had that.
00:42:32
Speaker 3: I know.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: That's all we have for today. We hope you liked today's episode. It was a fun one. Yeah. We had a lot of nuance. We had a lot of comedy.
00:42:40
Speaker 2: All right, let's not blow too much smoke up our arse.
00:42:42
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see you guys next week. Same time, same place. Comment a crocodile emoji in the Spotify comments and then I'll know you listened to the end. And also follow us on Instagram. It's in the comments pod. Follow us on TikTok. It's in the comments podcast. And have a really good day, guys.
00:42:59
Speaker 2: Have a blessed day.
00:43:01
Speaker 1: Have a blessed day, sister. Sister.
00:43:04
Speaker 2: Okay, sister. Okay. Bye, sister. Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.
