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Welcome to the Bulletproof Screenwriting Podcast, Episode number four seventy four.
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Enjoy today's episode with guest host Dave Bullets. But on
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today's episode we have a guest who's not a filmmaker,
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but it's a person that helps with LLC's I know
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a lot of people have been sort of you know,
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messaging me and asking if I could get somebody who's
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more legal centric on just for an episode or two,
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just someone to talk about like the legalities of some
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things creating LLC's how do you stay safe when you're
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making contracts? So this is actually gonna be a pretty
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good episode because she not only you know, does all
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work on that, but she also was an entrepreneur, a
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small business expert, a speaker, and the CEO of corpnet
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dot com. With guest Nelly Acow. Hey, Nellie, thank you
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very much for joining us on the show.
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Hi, Dave, Thank you for having me.
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Oh, you know, it's my pleasure. You know. You know, Nellie,
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you were the CEO of Corpnet, and you know I
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wanted to, you know, acquire more about your background. So
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I you know, I've seen that you always have sort
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of had this entrepreneurial spirit, so I wanted to ask,
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you know, Nelly, how did you get started, you know,
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down the road to becoming the CEO of corporate.
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Well, I've been in the industry for over fifteen years
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and got into entrepreneurship back in nineteen ninety seven, right
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out of law school when we found our first company
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and have been in the same an industry ever since.
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We grew our first company and sold it back in
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two thousand and five to a publicly traded company, and
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then took some time off focused on my family and kids,
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and decided I was too young, too passionate, too motivated
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to take on an early retirement. So I got back
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into the legal document filing industry in two thousand and
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nine and started my company, corpnate dot com.
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So, you know, obviously, you know, the landscape of entrepreneurship
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has changed since you know, you first started in and
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I think believe you said ninety six. So you know,
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what are some of the things really you've actually seen
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that have happened recently that has sort of have helped
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or maybe even hinted entrepreneurship.
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Well, I think we're in a different climate than what
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it was like back in nineteen ninety seven. In nineteen
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ninety seven, when I started our first company, my Corporation,
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it was at the birth of the Internet age, so
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it was really easy to you know, put up a
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website and immediately start seeing orders come through online even
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without having any sort of a payment, get Gateway. Whereas
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in two thousand and nine when I launched Corporate, the landscape,
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the economic climate, everything had changed. And now we're in
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this new age of social media. So in my opinion,
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there's a lot of difference between how I ran my
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business back in the nineteen nineties versus now. And I
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have never worked harder in my life than I do today.
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You know, it's funny because you know, that's what a
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lot I've heard it from a lot of other entrepreneurs,
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because you know, they usually quit their day jobs to
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you know, inter follow their passion, follow their own desires
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to build their own company. And they always usually say,
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you know, we end up working even more, but they
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usually enjoy it a lot more because it's working for
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their own company, if you know what I mean.
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Absolutely, I think the greatest thing about being an entrepreneur
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is just being able to shoot as high as you
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want and really do it within your own climate, within
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you your own creative box, without having any limitations, and
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being able to spread your wings as far and loud
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and high as you'd like to reach them. And I
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think that was one of the biggest realizations for me
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after selling my first company, because when we first sold,
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really there wasn't any notion of us wanting to leave.
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entrepreneurial spirit for us, and we thought it's perfect time
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for us to take some time off and really focus
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on growing ourselves as individuals, as entrepreneurs, focusing on my
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marriage with my husband and business partner of over nineteen
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years now, and really focusing on our children and had
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another kid on the way. And you know what it
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made me realize is that I really loving my own boss,
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and I really don't joy corporate America and really like
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to start from scratch create something out of nothing and
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really create that culture that I am vision wanting to
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be a part of on a daily basis.
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Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people in
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America have become burned out on corporate America. I think
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they've really just gotten burned out on the inter office politics,
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you know, on some of the other practices in you know,
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corporate America. And I think that's why you're seeing a
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lot of entrepreneurship now, of people sort of you know,
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starting their own stores, like you know, you mentioned you
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started near you know, the the dot com boom. When
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I look around today, I see a lot of businesses,
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you know, starting up, and you know, there's not a
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brick and mortar store at all most of the time.
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an online store, and then if they're like a T
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shirt company, they then just farm it out to another company,
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and then of course they farm it out to another
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company that ships the the the the goods. So it's
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just you know, I think this is we're going to
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that now where more people aren't going to have the
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traditional nine to five It's going to be an entrepreneur
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job where you know, you make your own business and
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you or even become a freelancer, you know, and you
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sort of start and you sort of start getting your
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clients and building it from there.
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Yes, exactly. And frankly, I think in this day and age,
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it's really about the relationships and the reputation that you're
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creating out there and you're setting out there for yourself.
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which is the social media digital era, it's really about
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that personal engagement and that client nurturing and cultivation and
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the relationships that you build with the clients that's going
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to determine the success of your business in the long run.
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It's very interesting as well because you know, as we're
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talking about entrepreneurship, you know, I actually, up until a
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few months ago, I actually worked full time at a college,
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and you know, when we were actually talking about you know,
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creating a new course all about business, you know, a
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lot of the professors were they they there was nothing
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about this, about this new age about digital and social media,
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and I obviously I said something about that and we
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ended up not making the course. But it got me thinking.
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You know, I've read a book a while ago about
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you know, college and where it's at today, and this
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guy basically said he thinks that a lot of college
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degrees and a lot of people going out and out
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in the real world now, they don't have the necessary
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tools to succeed. Rather than if you just fresh out
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of high school went right in doing what you want
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in entrepreneurship, you know, I kind of see his point.
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I mean, I don't know, do you do you have
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a thought about that.
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Here's the thing is, I think personally, in my opinion,
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I think anybody who wants to become a successful entrepreneur,
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and if they really want to go through entrepreneurship, you
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can straight out of high school go into it. But
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in my opinion, I think it's super important to have
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education under your belt and get a college degree. Why
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because I think all of those junctures in our lives
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are again extra experience, and the courses that you're taking
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in college are geared towards somehow helping you becoming a
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better entrepreneur. For me, it has helped me a ton.
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I mean, I got my degree in business and marketing,
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and some of the classes that I took really helped
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me in my daily operations of running and growing my business.
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I'm not saying that every class I took helped, but
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I think again there geared to be a tool and
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a resource to make you a better person in life.
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And a better entrepreneur. If that's really the way you
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want to go. Others may have a different outlook on it,
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and others may have a different opinion on it. You
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may have those people who really have that vision, passion
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and determination to really write out of high school, want
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to start a business. And again, by all means, but
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I think it's really important to always better yourself and
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always you know, improve yourself as a person and an entrepreneur.
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And if you choose not to go to college and
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at least, you know, take some online courses to really
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you know, strengthen your skills as a business person, if
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that's the route you want to go.
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Yeah, you know, there's a lot of online courses now
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and I see, you know, with the massive online open courses,
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you know, a coursia on you to me on skill
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share and I sometimes wonder, you know, if that's the future,
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if there would be basically you could just take what
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you want to take, meaning there would be we would
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have to redefine what degrees are. But you know what
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I mean, Like so it wouldn't be you taking like
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a traditional bachelor's degree, you know, course or curriculum. You
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would have you you would take the courses that you
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were interested in, and they would either give you a certificate.
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What I've seen them do now is there's like a
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mini program like I T for instance, had their their
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micro master's course and basically it was like you know,
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five or six online courses that you had to pass
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and then you could you would be getting this what's
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called MicroMasters, and it would be about a year's time
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rather than the traditional you know two years for a
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master's degree. It's just it's just an interesting, uh, you know,
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time to be alive because of all these different changes.
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And you know, I always look to get different people's
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you know, feedback about this, and you know what they're
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you know, experiencing and you know in the quote unquote
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real world.
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Well here's my take on it. I have four children,
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and two of them are teenagers, and obviously they see
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me on a daily basis in my work attire and
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just juggling and trying to balance life with work, and
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they see my successes and obviously it's good enough reason
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for them to be all amped up and excited about, Hey,
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I want to become successful like you, mom, and I
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want to go into business for myself. But the one
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thing that I always tell my kids is that, well,
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you know, success it comes with experience. And my path
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for success was not only going and you know, through
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high school, getting good grades at listening to my teachers,
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going and getting my four year college degree, but I
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also decided to go to law school because for me,
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every you know, every hour of education that I received
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both through my college years and my graduate years was
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again experience underneath my belt. And this is from somebody
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who not only went to college and graduate school, but
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at the same time maintained the job through college and
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grad school. And every one of those experiences, in my opinion,
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has led and paved the way for me to be
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a better person, a better entrepreneur, and really has paved
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the way to my success today because those were all
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experiences and those interactions, to me, is what really led
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me to be who I am today. So I think
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the more you can expose yourself to tools and resources
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that can make you a better person, a more rounded
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person by all means, go for it.
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you know, is your successes. You know, because you know,
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you know, it's awesome, and you know, I want to
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sort of ask you. Now, you know, if we were
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going to let's just say, you know, let's let's just
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say my friend and I just giving an example, we're
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going to create a business, and you know, we were
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to corp net, you know, what would you recommend? I mean,
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you know, should we you know, you know what I mean.
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I know that's a very open into questions Tycher. Probably
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probably probably we were that. So you know, let's just
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say we came and we wanted to ask you, you know,
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the question of LLC versus like S corp and stuff
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like that. You know, uh, because you know, with film projects,
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they're a little bit different than say some other entrepreneurships
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because me because you know, a movie in itself is
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is its own entity, so you know, you know, you
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build upon that. So if I was going to come
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to you with like a film project. You know what
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were some of the things that you know you would say,
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and you know what would you recommend between an LLC
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or maybe even something different than an LLC. You know,
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I'm always interested to hear about that.
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Let me back up for a minute and just give
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you a two second version of what corpnet does, and
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then I can provide you with the differences in the
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business structures and what we see and would recommend as
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a resource to your audience. Our company, Corporate provides business
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filing services to startups, entrepreneurs, movie film producers, anybody who's
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looking to start a corporation or LLC or any other
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type of business filing, or they have an existing business
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and want us to help them maintain the business structure.
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We provide the services online in all fifty states, and
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really what makes us different from all the hundreds of
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thousands of other competitors out there is our level of
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personal service and really the dedication we have to our
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clients from start to finish. So you can visit us
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online at www dot corpnet dot com. We have live
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chat experts standing by at any time of the day
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Monday through Fridays from six am until five pm Pacific
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standard time. But specifically, what makes us different is that
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we have a very very large customer base of dealing
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with the entertainment industry and movie and film producers. So
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we probably have about thirty percent of our clients are
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in the film industry, and really we consider ourselves experts
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in the field of really guiding your audience as to
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what's necessary, what type of legal document filings are required,
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and to be able to assist them and guide them
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into getting what they need. So, in answer to your question, really,
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for an inter a person in the entertainment industry trying
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to set up a business structure for their movie or film,
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you can go either way LLC ors corporation because, as
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you mentioned, it dave a movie like an entity of
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its own. So one of the things that we recommend,
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because we deal with a ton of producers is that
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they come with several different movies. Well, each movie should
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have its own entity, and as far as it being
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an LLC or an S corporation, it really really depends
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on the level of formality that you want to deal with.
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As far as that particular movie. With the S corporation,
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there's stricter requirements as to who can qualify, whereas with
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an LLC it's a much more lax type of entity.
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Anybody can be a member of an LLC and it's
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much less formal as far as the filing requirements that
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are required to bring the LLC into existence. In addition,
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the only piece of document that really controls the LLC
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is the operating agreement. So if you are trying to
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set up a movie and the people backing the movie
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up some are in state, some are out of state,
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the LLC may be the better way to go because
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there are no requirements with the LLC that bar and
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out of state or to be a member of the LLC.
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But as far as the protection as to which one
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will afford you greater liability protection, et cetera, both the
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S corporate and the LLC offer liability protection. They both
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offer the the double taxation avoidance, whereby you would otherwise
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have to pay by forming SC corporation. So it really
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depends on again the level of formality that you want
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to deal with, whether all the shareholders or members of
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that particular film are you know, residents of the US,
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are citizens of the US. If they are, then S
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corporation is a great way to go. Otherwise, the LLC
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is a great type of entity and the most favored
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within and amongst uh the film industry and the entertainment industry,
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Because my experience you know with LLC's came when we
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had to start buying insurance because you know, because when
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when when I was doing you know, student films. You know,
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you know, most student films are just you know, running gun.
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They really don't have you know, the doing it, you know,
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the proper way. But when I started, you know, getting
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into buying insurance because we started doing you know, riskier stuff,
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you know, whether you want to you know, blow up
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a car or whatever, the LLC and then you you know,
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I would get the insurance and then I could you know,
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go from there. And uh, you know that's was you know,
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a couple of years ago when I actually the last
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time I actually produced something, that's what we did. We
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actually went the LLC route.
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Yes, LLCs are really really the favorite type of entity
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these days. Again, as I mentioned to you, it's great
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for a small business.
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and now back to the show.
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And literally anyone can be a member of an LLC.
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It's very, very informal. I refer to the LLC as
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the entity where you can have your cake and eat
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it too, because not only it provides you with all
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the liability and asset protection that you want in creating
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a business structure, but with limited formalities, with minimal formalities,
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so we can take care of it for you. It's
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offered in all fifty states, and again we can take
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care of filing the LLC for you in any of
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the fifty states, and all of the paperwork required to
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keep the LLC incompliance throughout the years the LLC in
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it is in existence.
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So you know, Neilli, I wanted to ask, you know,
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if a filmmaker listening to this, you know, wanted to
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come to you about starting an LLC, is there anything
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they need to do beforehand before coming to you to
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start the LLC?
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Actually not really. I mean, typically, speaking for a film producer,
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we normally use the name of the movie as the
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name of the LLC, unless they have another, you know,
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particular name that they'd like to use, such as they're
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holding company, et cetera. But really what we need before
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they come to us is just the name the members
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of the people that are going to be as part
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of the LLC, the business address, and then we take
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care of the rest. I mean really we take the
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hassle out of the movie producer doing all the legwork
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and bringing the LLC into existence, and then we become
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your partner throughout the lifetime of the LLC and helping
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you keep the LLC in compliance.
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So what are some of the things you're like the LLC?
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You know, I know I've been in my experience with
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the LLC some of the things like a tax ID
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number usually comes up. So you know, what are some
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of the things that about being in compliance? You know
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that should you know, you know, we be concerned about
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for the LLC to being compliance.
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So with our company, Corpnet, we offer three different packages
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and normally what I would recommend to any movie, film
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producer or somebody in the entertainment industry is our Deluxe
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or all inclusive complete package, whereby, you know, not only
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we take care of handling the name check, we submit
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the paperwork to the state for filing for the LLC.
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Once the LLC is filed, we actually obtain and assign
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the tax ID number to the LLC, which is really
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the Social Security number for the LLC, that particular LLC,
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where the IRS can identify all the transactions associated with
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that particular LLC. And then once the tax id is
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signed and we have all the paperwork, including the operating
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agreement all drafted, we forward all the documentation to the
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particular client for that LLC, whereby it allows them to
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go open up the bank account and then start conducting
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business under the LLC. And then within a year or
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two after, depending on the state requirements, we can file
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all the statement of information, annual report filings, all the
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compliance filings that are due for that LLC within their state.
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In addition to, for example, if the general principle of
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the LLC likes to make any modifications to the LLC
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AD members, the lead members, we can help them throughout
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the lifetime of the LLC with all those needs as well.
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You know, that's something that you know, I've learned that
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you need on a film project is either so you
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know somebody who knows the legalities of things, because you know,
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when you get stuff like the tax ID number and
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you start getting you know, into into sort of like
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you know, lots of legal documents. I've realized that you
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do need to have somebody who you can turn to
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and be like, what does this mean? Exactly Yes.
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And here's the great thing about our business, Dave, is
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that we assign you your own business filings expert, your
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own dedicated account rep. And we deal with a tin
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of high end movie producers who will call here and
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for example, deal with our senior filings expert, Amanda Baron,
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who is literally has been with the company since day one,
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is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to forming corporations
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and LLCs in all fifty states. But she's also our
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specialist in dealing with people who are within the entertainment
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industry and who'd like to form corporations or LLCs for
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their movies. So we will assign you not only to
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an expert, but an expert that has expertise in your field.
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So, you know, nearly I wanted to ask, you know,
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if we were talking about entrepreneurship, you know, and I
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always wonder, you know, where crowdfunding sort of comes into this,
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because you know, with the equity based crowdfunding coming in
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the law, you know, I always wonder, you know, where
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that would fall within the LLC because now you know,
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with people being able to sort of buy into the project.
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I wonder if does that add you know, a lot
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another dimension or two to to your LLC.
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I mean, we deal with all sectors, all verticals, and
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really we're here to service any type of clients filing
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needs that they require. So you know, in my opinion,
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whoever needs assistance with setting up a corporation or an
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LLC in whatever business, vertical or sector they are, we
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can assist them.
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That's good to know because you know, like I was
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saying before, you know, with you know, having somebody in
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your corner, because I've been down that road before too,
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and it's just you know, I've ever done equity based crowdfunding.
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So I was doing crowdfunding. It wasn't around. But you know,
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even when you're doing perk crowdfunding. You know, I had
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a producer on there going is this legal? Should we
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get a lawyer on here? And I said no, no, no,
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I said, you know, it's through their own website, you know,
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and they explained in their terms and agreements, you know
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what is entailed with this crowdfunding campaign. It's perk based,
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you know, et cetera, et cetera. But you know, i
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just wanted to ask, because you know, with that becoming
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nor we're rolling out more and more. I just wanted
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to ask if that would you know, entail something completely
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different on top of the l's.
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Yeah, not at all. And in fact, one of the
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notions and the lack of awareness out there that I
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wanted to address, which you just brought up, Dave, is
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the fact that there's still this lack of awareness that
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a corporation or LLC can be done on your own
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through a reputable online company such as the services we
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provide here at Corporate and most often people think that
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they do have to go to an attorney or an
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accountant to get these filings. Then again, remember this company
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and our other companies was found by attorney husband and
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wife teams. So we've been through law school, we are
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within the industry. My husband is admitted to the California
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State Bar, and frankly, you do not need a lawyer
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to form a corporation or LLC and nearly act as
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a scriptner to file documents with the state. You can
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take care of these filings and more with the help
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of a company such as ours for literally one tenth
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and iota of the price and really save that money
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that you would otherwise pay to a legal professional and
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really use it when it comes handy when you actually
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need the assistance of a lawyer. So we're very capable
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and consider ourselves experts in the field and can handle
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all these filings and more in all fifty states.
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So, you know, Nelly, that's a good point you just
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brought up, and I wanted to ask, you know, when
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it does come to time to dissolve the LLC, like
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if it was a film project, you know, we've shot it,
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you know, we've we've no it's in post production, it's
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being distributed, you know, and it's this comes up a
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point in time when you have to dissolve it. L
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you know, is that a complicated process?
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Not at all. In fact, again, we handled dissolutions in
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all fifty states, and we can help you in dissolving
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the LLC at the end of the film project. It's
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just merely a document that needs to be filed within
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the state, and obviously every state has different requirements. Some
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dissolutions are much more tedious and require much more filings
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than others. But again, we handle dissolution paperwork in all
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fifty states and can help you in dissolving the LLC
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as well.
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lot about LLCs and you know, and making companies and
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everything like that. Is there any sort of challenges you see,
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you know, in your daily, your weekly, you know, business
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from from entrepreneurs or filmmakers. Is there any sort of
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mistake that you see a lot of that? Is it
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almost like a common mistake that you see that people make.
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I think oftentimes the most common mistakes that we see
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is again the filmmaker, the entrepreneur not having the due
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diligence or the information necessary, paying tons of money where
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they otherwise they could have saved the money and come
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to a company such as ours to form the legal
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paperwork for them, oftentimes not having the correct information and
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filing the LLC in a state other than the state
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where the movie is being shot, and not doing their
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due diligence and making sure the name is available before
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forming the LLC, and then after the LLC is formed,
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not having the proper information to keep the LLC in compliance.
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So these are all mistakes that we've dealt with and
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oftentimes have to have fixed. So again, it could all
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Or taking advantage of our live chat feature.
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So, you know, Neil, you brought up a funny you know,
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grow up something, and it reminds me of a funny
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story that happened to me. You know, I have a
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friend of mine who's an attorney on my you know,
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on my Facebook friends list, and when I started my
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production company, she actually sent me an email telling me
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that it was it was a bad idea. I mean,
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it was called Iron Fist Films, my my production company,
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and she thought it was too close to the Marvel
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superhero Iron Fist and I and I said, but my
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Iron Fist is based off of Iron Fist training from
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Shallon kung Fu. That's you know, three thousand years old,
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you know, I I you know, And I was trying
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to go back and forth with her about this, But
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I mean, have you seen something like similar like that
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happen where maybe a trademark was a little too close
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to home.
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Absolutely, we deal with that on a daily basis because
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as part of our products and services, we offer trademark registration,
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search and filing services. And oftentimes people, as I mentioned
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to you, do not take the time to check on
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that name to make sure it's available before they start
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the business, and they don't take an additional they don't
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take the additional necessary steps to do a further research
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of the name to see whether anybody has common law
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rights to that name, whether that name has a potential
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trademark right to it. And again we can help and
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assist because we have all those tools on our website
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such as the free name Search, the free trademark search,
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that can provide you with the necessary information so that
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you are prevented on being on the wrong end of
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a trademark infringement suit potentially.
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You know another funny story. It's involves a friend of mine.
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He actually was a private investigator and lawyers, trademark lawyers
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will actually hide or hire him out to go and
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investigate some different trademarks and he actually had one. One time.
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These four guys started a company. They just start, you know,
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open up a actual physical store and the name of the
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store was called Apple, and literally they did I don't
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think they made an LC but they just started coming.
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You know, the business called Apple. They had a they
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had a logo outside their Their logo also was was
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you know, a green Apple. And when he went in
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there to talk to him about it, they actually were
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like dumb they were attending they were dumbfounded, like we
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don't know anything about this other apple? What are you
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talking about. Needless to say, they actually decided to shut
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it down when finally when the trademark lawyers were like, look,
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we're gonna sue you if you don't stop.
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Yes, exactly, and that will happen. And again, you can
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save yourself a ton of headache and time if you
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just go about and do your due diligence before you
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start printing out business cards and letterheads and start using
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that name in commerce.
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Yeah, it's uh, yeah, I concur You know, that's when
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when I used iron Fist, I actually went through and
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I actually made sure it wasn't going to be a problem.
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But I know that, you know, her and I were talking,
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my attorney friend, and I she you know, brought that
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up just because she thought it was you know, too close.
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But uh but again mine is based off something completely different.
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You know, that's a's a couple thousand years old, so
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I don't really know if anybody could actually trademark that,
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although you know, I hear Budweiser is changing the name
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of their beer to America. Yeah, I heard that. I
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don't know how he would be able to trademark America,
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but that would.
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Be considered a generic term, so it's not a trademarkable
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unless they do Budweiser slash America or something like that.
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I'm sure they have a great team of legal experts
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working on that as we speak.
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You don't know that we've been talking for about, you know,
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thirty minutes. You know, I wanted to ask, you know,
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is there anything that we sort of haven't discussed yet,
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or anything you wanted to to maybe mention that we
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we didn't get a chance to.
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Actually, I think we've covered it all and again. We'd
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love to assist any one of your audiences with any
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of their business filing needs or helping them set up
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a corporation or LLC in all fifty states. You can
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visit us online at www dot corpnet dot com. If
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you have any questions, feel free to email us to
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info at corpnet dot com or just pick up the
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phone call one eight eight eight four four nine two
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six three eight. You can follow me on Twitter at
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corpnet Nelly, or follow the company at Twitter at corpnet.
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And then we're also on live chat Monday through Fridays
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from six am until five pm Pacific Standard time.
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And that's awesome and everyone I will link to everything,
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all the links Nelly just said in the show notes
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as well. You know, Nelly, I want to say thank
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you very much for coming on and you know my
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pleasure and you know, I want to wish you the
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best of luck with everything with CORPNT and for helping
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all the future entrepreneurs.
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Thank you so much, and thank you for the opportunity.
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Dave, oh my pleasure, take care, NELLI takes care.
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I want to thank Dave so so much for doing
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such a great job on this episode. If you want
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to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
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head over to the show notes at Bulletproofscreenwriting dot tv.
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Forward slash four seventy four. Thank you so much for
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listening to guys. As always, keep on writing no matter what.
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I'll talk to you soon.
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Enjoy today's episode with guest host Dave Bullets. But on
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today's episode we have a guest who's not a filmmaker,
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but it's a person that helps with LLC's I know
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a lot of people have been sort of you know,
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messaging me and asking if I could get somebody who's
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more legal centric on just for an episode or two,
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just someone to talk about like the legalities of some
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things creating LLC's how do you stay safe when you're
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making contracts? So this is actually gonna be a pretty
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good episode because she not only you know, does all
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small business expert, a speaker, and the CEO of corpnet
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dot com. With guest Nelly Acow. Hey, Nellie, thank you
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very much for joining us on the show.
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Hi, Dave, Thank you for having me.
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Oh, you know, it's my pleasure. You know. You know, Nellie,
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you were the CEO of Corpnet, and you know I
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wanted to, you know, acquire more about your background. So
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I you know, I've seen that you always have sort
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of had this entrepreneurial spirit, so I wanted to ask,
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you know, Nelly, how did you get started, you know,
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down the road to becoming the CEO of corporate.
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Well, I've been in the industry for over fifteen years
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and got into entrepreneurship back in nineteen ninety seven, right
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out of law school when we found our first company
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and have been in the same an industry ever since.
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two thousand and five to a publicly traded company, and
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then took some time off focused on my family and kids,
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and decided I was too young, too passionate, too motivated
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to take on an early retirement. So I got back
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nine and started my company, corpnate dot com.
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has changed since you know, you first started in and
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I think believe you said ninety six. So you know,
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what are some of the things really you've actually seen
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that have happened recently that has sort of have helped
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or maybe even hinted entrepreneurship.
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it was like back in nineteen ninety seven. In nineteen
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it was at the birth of the Internet age, so
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it was really easy to you know, put up a
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website and immediately start seeing orders come through online even
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without having any sort of a payment, get Gateway. Whereas
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in two thousand and nine when I launched Corporate, the landscape,
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the economic climate, everything had changed. And now we're in
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business back in the nineteen nineties versus now. And I
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have never worked harder in my life than I do today.
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because you know, they usually quit their day jobs to
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you know, inter follow their passion, follow their own desires
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to build their own company. And they always usually say,
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and high as you'd like to reach them. And I
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to start from scratch create something out of nothing and
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they've really just gotten burned out on the inter office politics,
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that now where more people aren't going to have the
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job where you know, you make your own business and
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you or even become a freelancer, you know, and you
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which is the social media digital era, it's really about
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that personal engagement and that client nurturing and cultivation and
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the relationships that you build with the clients that's going
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to determine the success of your business in the long run.
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creating a new course all about business, you know, a
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lot of the professors were they they there was nothing
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about this, about this new age about digital and social media,
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guy basically said he thinks that a lot of college
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degrees and a lot of people going out and out
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in the real world now, they don't have the necessary
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tools to succeed. Rather than if you just fresh out
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can straight out of high school go into it. But
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education under your belt and get a college degree. Why
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because I think all of those junctures in our lives
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are again extra experience, and the courses that you're taking
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in college are geared towards somehow helping you becoming a
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better entrepreneur. For me, it has helped me a ton.
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And a better entrepreneur. If that's really the way you
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want to go. Others may have a different outlook on it,
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and others may have a different opinion on it. You
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may have those people who really have that vision, passion
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and determination to really write out of high school, want
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to start a business. And again, by all means, but
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always you know, improve yourself as a person and an entrepreneur.
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at least, you know, take some online courses to really
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you know, strengthen your skills as a business person, if
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that's the route you want to go.
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and I see, you know, with the massive online open courses,
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you know, a coursia on you to me on skill
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share and I sometimes wonder, you know, if that's the future,
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if there would be basically you could just take what
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you want to take, meaning there would be we would
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have to redefine what degrees are. But you know what
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mini program like I T for instance, had their their
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micro master's course and basically it was like you know,
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five or six online courses that you had to pass
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called MicroMasters, and it would be about a year's time
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rather than the traditional you know two years for a
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master's degree. It's just it's just an interesting, uh, you know,
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time to be alive because of all these different changes.
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you know, feedback about this, and you know what they're
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you know, experiencing and you know in the quote unquote
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real world.
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just juggling and trying to balance life with work, and
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they see my successes and obviously it's good enough reason
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for them to be all amped up and excited about, Hey,
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I want to become successful like you, mom, and I
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want to go into business for myself. But the one
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thing that I always tell my kids is that, well,
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you know, success it comes with experience. And my path
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for success was not only going and you know, through
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high school, getting good grades at listening to my teachers,
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going and getting my four year college degree, but I
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also decided to go to law school because for me,
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every you know, every hour of education that I received
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at the same time maintained the job through college and
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grad school. And every one of those experiences, in my opinion,
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has led and paved the way for me to be
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a better person, a better entrepreneur, and really has paved
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the way to my success today because those were all
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experiences and those interactions, to me, is what really led
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me to be who I am today. So I think
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the more you can expose yourself to tools and resources
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that can make you a better person, a more rounded
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person by all means, go for it.
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And you know that's what we're to talk to you about,
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you know, is your successes. You know, because you know,
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I see what you're doing at corporate and it's just
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you know, it's awesome, and you know, I want to
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sort of ask you. Now, you know, if we were
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say my friend and I just giving an example, we're
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going to create a business, and you know, we were
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going to come to something like you know, comes come
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to corp net, you know, what would you recommend? I mean,
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you know, should we you know, you know what I mean.
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I know that's a very open into questions Tycher. Probably
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probably probably we were that. So you know, let's just
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say we came and we wanted to ask you, you know,
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the question of LLC versus like S corp and stuff
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like that. You know, uh, because you know, with film projects,
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they're a little bit different than say some other entrepreneurships
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build upon that. So if I was going to come
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to you with like a film project. You know what
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were some of the things that you know you would say,
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and you know what would you recommend between an LLC
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Let me back up for a minute and just give
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you a two second version of what corpnet does, and
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then I can provide you with the differences in the
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business structures and what we see and would recommend as
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a resource to your audience. Our company, Corporate provides business
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filing services to startups, entrepreneurs, movie film producers, anybody who's
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looking to start a corporation or LLC or any other
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type of business filing, or they have an existing business
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and want us to help them maintain the business structure.
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We provide the services online in all fifty states, and
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really what makes us different from all the hundreds of
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thousands of other competitors out there is our level of
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personal service and really the dedication we have to our
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clients from start to finish. So you can visit us
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online at www dot corpnet dot com. We have live
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chat experts standing by at any time of the day
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Monday through Fridays from six am until five pm Pacific
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standard time. But specifically, what makes us different is that
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we have a very very large customer base of dealing
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with the entertainment industry and movie and film producers. So
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we probably have about thirty percent of our clients are
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in the film industry, and really we consider ourselves experts
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in the field of really guiding your audience as to
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what's necessary, what type of legal document filings are required,
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and to be able to assist them and guide them
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into getting what they need. So, in answer to your question, really,
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for an inter a person in the entertainment industry trying
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to set up a business structure for their movie or film,
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you can go either way LLC ors corporation because, as
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they come with several different movies. Well, each movie should
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an LLC or an S corporation, it really really depends
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much less formal as far as the filing requirements that
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are required to bring the LLC into existence. In addition,
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the only piece of document that really controls the LLC
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set up a movie and the people backing the movie
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S corporate and the LLC offer liability protection. They both
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offer the the double taxation avoidance, whereby you would otherwise
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have to pay by forming SC corporation. So it really
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to deal with, whether all the shareholders or members of
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that particular film are you know, residents of the US,
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are citizens of the US. If they are, then S
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within and amongst uh the film industry and the entertainment industry,
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you know, most student films are just you know, running gun.
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the proper way. But when I started, you know, getting
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into buying insurance because we started doing you know, riskier stuff,
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you know, whether you want to you know, blow up
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a car or whatever, the LLC and then you you know,
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I would get the insurance and then I could you know,
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go from there. And uh, you know that's was you know,
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a couple of years ago when I actually the last
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time I actually produced something, that's what we did. We
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actually went the LLC route.
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Yes, LLCs are really really the favorite type of entity
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these days. Again, as I mentioned to you, it's great
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for a small business.
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and now back to the show.
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And literally anyone can be a member of an LLC.
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It's very, very informal. I refer to the LLC as
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the entity where you can have your cake and eat
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it too, because not only it provides you with all
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the liability and asset protection that you want in creating
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a business structure, but with limited formalities, with minimal formalities,
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so we can take care of it for you. It's
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offered in all fifty states, and again we can take
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care of filing the LLC for you in any of
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the fifty states, and all of the paperwork required to
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keep the LLC incompliance throughout the years the LLC in
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it is in existence.
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So you know, Neilli, I wanted to ask, you know,
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if a filmmaker listening to this, you know, wanted to
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come to you about starting an LLC, is there anything
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they need to do beforehand before coming to you to
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start the LLC?
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Actually not really. I mean, typically, speaking for a film producer,
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we normally use the name of the movie as the
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name of the LLC, unless they have another, you know,
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particular name that they'd like to use, such as they're
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holding company, et cetera. But really what we need before
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they come to us is just the name the members
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of the people that are going to be as part
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of the LLC, the business address, and then we take
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care of the rest. I mean really we take the
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hassle out of the movie producer doing all the legwork
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and bringing the LLC into existence, and then we become
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your partner throughout the lifetime of the LLC and helping
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you keep the LLC in compliance.
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So what are some of the things you're like the LLC?
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You know, I know I've been in my experience with
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the LLC some of the things like a tax ID
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number usually comes up. So you know, what are some
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of the things that about being in compliance? You know
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that should you know, you know, we be concerned about
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for the LLC to being compliance.
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So with our company, Corpnet, we offer three different packages
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and normally what I would recommend to any movie, film
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producer or somebody in the entertainment industry is our Deluxe
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or all inclusive complete package, whereby, you know, not only
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we take care of handling the name check, we submit
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the paperwork to the state for filing for the LLC.
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Once the LLC is filed, we actually obtain and assign
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the tax ID number to the LLC, which is really
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the Social Security number for the LLC, that particular LLC,
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where the IRS can identify all the transactions associated with
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that particular LLC. And then once the tax id is
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signed and we have all the paperwork, including the operating
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agreement all drafted, we forward all the documentation to the
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particular client for that LLC, whereby it allows them to
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go open up the bank account and then start conducting
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business under the LLC. And then within a year or
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two after, depending on the state requirements, we can file
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all the statement of information, annual report filings, all the
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compliance filings that are due for that LLC within their state.
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In addition to, for example, if the general principle of
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the LLC likes to make any modifications to the LLC
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AD members, the lead members, we can help them throughout
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the lifetime of the LLC with all those needs as well.
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You know, that's something that you know, I've learned that
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you need on a film project is either so you
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know somebody who knows the legalities of things, because you know,
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when you get stuff like the tax ID number and
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you start getting you know, into into sort of like
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you know, lots of legal documents. I've realized that you
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do need to have somebody who you can turn to
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and be like, what does this mean? Exactly Yes.
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And here's the great thing about our business, Dave, is
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that we assign you your own business filings expert, your
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own dedicated account rep. And we deal with a tin
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of high end movie producers who will call here and
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for example, deal with our senior filings expert, Amanda Baron,
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who is literally has been with the company since day one,
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is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to forming corporations
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and LLCs in all fifty states. But she's also our
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specialist in dealing with people who are within the entertainment
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industry and who'd like to form corporations or LLCs for
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their movies. So we will assign you not only to
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an expert, but an expert that has expertise in your field.
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So, you know, nearly I wanted to ask, you know,
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if we were talking about entrepreneurship, you know, and I
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always wonder, you know, where crowdfunding sort of comes into this,
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because you know, with the equity based crowdfunding coming in
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the law, you know, I always wonder, you know, where
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that would fall within the LLC because now you know,
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with people being able to sort of buy into the project.
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I wonder if does that add you know, a lot
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another dimension or two to to your LLC.
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I mean, we deal with all sectors, all verticals, and
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really we're here to service any type of clients filing
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needs that they require. So you know, in my opinion,
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whoever needs assistance with setting up a corporation or an
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LLC in whatever business, vertical or sector they are, we
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can assist them.
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That's good to know because you know, like I was
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saying before, you know, with you know, having somebody in
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your corner, because I've been down that road before too,
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and it's just you know, I've ever done equity based crowdfunding.
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So I was doing crowdfunding. It wasn't around. But you know,
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even when you're doing perk crowdfunding. You know, I had
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a producer on there going is this legal? Should we
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get a lawyer on here? And I said no, no, no,
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I said, you know, it's through their own website, you know,
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and they explained in their terms and agreements, you know
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what is entailed with this crowdfunding campaign. It's perk based,
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you know, et cetera, et cetera. But you know, i
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just wanted to ask, because you know, with that becoming
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nor we're rolling out more and more. I just wanted
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to ask if that would you know, entail something completely
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different on top of the l's.
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Yeah, not at all. And in fact, one of the
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notions and the lack of awareness out there that I
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wanted to address, which you just brought up, Dave, is
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the fact that there's still this lack of awareness that
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a corporation or LLC can be done on your own
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through a reputable online company such as the services we
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provide here at Corporate and most often people think that
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they do have to go to an attorney or an
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accountant to get these filings. Then again, remember this company
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and our other companies was found by attorney husband and
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wife teams. So we've been through law school, we are
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within the industry. My husband is admitted to the California
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State Bar, and frankly, you do not need a lawyer
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to form a corporation or LLC and nearly act as
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a scriptner to file documents with the state. You can
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take care of these filings and more with the help
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of a company such as ours for literally one tenth
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and iota of the price and really save that money
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that you would otherwise pay to a legal professional and
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really use it when it comes handy when you actually
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need the assistance of a lawyer. So we're very capable
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and consider ourselves experts in the field and can handle
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all these filings and more in all fifty states.
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So, you know, Nelly, that's a good point you just
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brought up, and I wanted to ask, you know, when
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it does come to time to dissolve the LLC, like
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if it was a film project, you know, we've shot it,
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you know, we've we've no it's in post production, it's
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being distributed, you know, and it's this comes up a
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point in time when you have to dissolve it. L
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you know, is that a complicated process?
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Not at all. In fact, again, we handled dissolutions in
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all fifty states, and we can help you in dissolving
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the LLC at the end of the film project. It's
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just merely a document that needs to be filed within
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the state, and obviously every state has different requirements. Some
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dissolutions are much more tedious and require much more filings
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than others. But again, we handle dissolution paperwork in all
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fifty states and can help you in dissolving the LLC
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as well.
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So nel you know, now we know we've talked a
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lot about LLCs and you know, and making companies and
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everything like that. Is there any sort of challenges you see,
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you know, in your daily, your weekly, you know, business
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from from entrepreneurs or filmmakers. Is there any sort of
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mistake that you see a lot of that? Is it
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almost like a common mistake that you see that people make.
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I think oftentimes the most common mistakes that we see
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is again the filmmaker, the entrepreneur not having the due
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diligence or the information necessary, paying tons of money where
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they otherwise they could have saved the money and come
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to a company such as ours to form the legal
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paperwork for them, oftentimes not having the correct information and
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filing the LLC in a state other than the state
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where the movie is being shot, and not doing their
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due diligence and making sure the name is available before
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forming the LLC, and then after the LLC is formed,
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not having the proper information to keep the LLC in compliance.
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So these are all mistakes that we've dealt with and
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oftentimes have to have fixed. So again, it could all
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be saved by having a reputable company take care of
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these filings for you and just calling us and having
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us do a free business consultation over the phone with you.
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Or taking advantage of our live chat feature.
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So, you know, Neil, you brought up a funny you know,
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grow up something, and it reminds me of a funny
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story that happened to me. You know, I have a
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friend of mine who's an attorney on my you know,
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on my Facebook friends list, and when I started my
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production company, she actually sent me an email telling me
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that it was it was a bad idea. I mean,
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it was called Iron Fist Films, my my production company,
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and she thought it was too close to the Marvel
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superhero Iron Fist and I and I said, but my
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Iron Fist is based off of Iron Fist training from
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Shallon kung Fu. That's you know, three thousand years old,
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you know, I I you know, And I was trying
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to go back and forth with her about this, But
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I mean, have you seen something like similar like that
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happen where maybe a trademark was a little too close
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to home.
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Absolutely, we deal with that on a daily basis because
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as part of our products and services, we offer trademark registration,
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search and filing services. And oftentimes people, as I mentioned
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to you, do not take the time to check on
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that name to make sure it's available before they start
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the business, and they don't take an additional they don't
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take the additional necessary steps to do a further research
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of the name to see whether anybody has common law
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rights to that name, whether that name has a potential
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trademark right to it. And again we can help and
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assist because we have all those tools on our website
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such as the free name Search, the free trademark search,
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that can provide you with the necessary information so that
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you are prevented on being on the wrong end of
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a trademark infringement suit potentially.
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You know another funny story. It's involves a friend of mine.
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He actually was a private investigator and lawyers, trademark lawyers
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will actually hide or hire him out to go and
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investigate some different trademarks and he actually had one. One time.
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These four guys started a company. They just start, you know,
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open up a actual physical store and the name of the
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store was called Apple, and literally they did I don't
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think they made an LC but they just started coming.
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You know, the business called Apple. They had a they
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had a logo outside their Their logo also was was
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you know, a green Apple. And when he went in
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there to talk to him about it, they actually were
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like dumb they were attending they were dumbfounded, like we
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don't know anything about this other apple? What are you
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talking about. Needless to say, they actually decided to shut
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it down when finally when the trademark lawyers were like, look,
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we're gonna sue you if you don't stop.
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Yes, exactly, and that will happen. And again, you can
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save yourself a ton of headache and time if you
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just go about and do your due diligence before you
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start printing out business cards and letterheads and start using
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that name in commerce.
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Yeah, it's uh, yeah, I concur You know, that's when
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when I used iron Fist, I actually went through and
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I actually made sure it wasn't going to be a problem.
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But I know that, you know, her and I were talking,
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my attorney friend, and I she you know, brought that
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up just because she thought it was you know, too close.
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But uh but again mine is based off something completely different.
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You know, that's a's a couple thousand years old, so
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I don't really know if anybody could actually trademark that,
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although you know, I hear Budweiser is changing the name
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of their beer to America. Yeah, I heard that. I
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don't know how he would be able to trademark America,
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but that would.
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Be considered a generic term, so it's not a trademarkable
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unless they do Budweiser slash America or something like that.
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I'm sure they have a great team of legal experts
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working on that as we speak.
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You don't know that we've been talking for about, you know,
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thirty minutes. You know, I wanted to ask, you know,
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is there anything that we sort of haven't discussed yet,
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or anything you wanted to to maybe mention that we
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we didn't get a chance to.
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Actually, I think we've covered it all and again. We'd
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love to assist any one of your audiences with any
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of their business filing needs or helping them set up
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a corporation or LLC in all fifty states. You can
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visit us online at www dot corpnet dot com. If
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you have any questions, feel free to email us to
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info at corpnet dot com or just pick up the
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phone call one eight eight eight four four nine two
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six three eight. You can follow me on Twitter at
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corpnet Nelly, or follow the company at Twitter at corpnet.
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And then we're also on live chat Monday through Fridays
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from six am until five pm Pacific Standard time.
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And that's awesome and everyone I will link to everything,
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all the links Nelly just said in the show notes
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as well. You know, Nelly, I want to say thank
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you very much for coming on and you know my
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pleasure and you know, I want to wish you the
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best of luck with everything with CORPNT and for helping
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all the future entrepreneurs.
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Thank you so much, and thank you for the opportunity.
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Dave, oh my pleasure, take care, NELLI takes care.
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I want to thank Dave so so much for doing
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such a great job on this episode. If you want
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to get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
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head over to the show notes at Bulletproofscreenwriting dot tv.
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Forward slash four seventy four. Thank you so much for
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listening to guys. As always, keep on writing no matter what.
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I'll talk to you soon.
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Thanks for listening to the Bulletproof Screenwriting Podcast. At Bulletproofscreenwriting
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