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Episode 10 of Brothers Just Talking brings another round of real conversation, strong opinions, laughs, and a few questions that might have you arguing with us from your car.
This week, Harv C., E., Sebastian B. Bleue, and Da Funky One tackle topics without easy answers.
We ask: After a marriage ends, are private secrets and receipts still off-limits, or does everything become fair game once the relationship is over?
Then we take on community responsibility. If an athlete, entertainer, or entrepreneur becomes a millionaire, do they have an obligation to give back to the community they came from—or is giving back a personal choice?
We also get into one that’s guaranteed to start a debate: Should DNA testing become a routine part of establishing paternity at birth? Would it create more honesty and accountability, or cause unnecessary problems in families?
And then we lighten things up with Who You Got? as the brothers build their Mount Rushmore of female singers. Only FOUR names make the cut, so some legendary artists get left off. Who belongs on your list?
Topics include:
• Marriage, divorce, privacy, and relationship secrets
• Millionaires, athletes, and giving back to the community
• Paternity and routine DNA testing
• The greatest female singers of all time
• BJT debates, laughs, and plenty of disagreement
We don’t always agree, but we can always talk about it.
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If a bag which is a bad thing.
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Let me make it hard.
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Before we leave, we gotta put one we got to do.
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Well, welcome.
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Welcome everybody to another episode of Brothers Just Talking.
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Yeah, we missed you.
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We hope you missed us as well.
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This is where four brothers get together and we talk about the same things that people debate in the barbershop, at the gym, on the golf course, and hey, for the head covered, even in these group chats.
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Nothing is off limits.
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But everybody has to be ready to defend what they say.
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I'm your host, RFC, and with me today, we got E.
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E.
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What's up, baby?
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What's going on?
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I got Sebastian B blue in the house.
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What's up, Blue?
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What's up, fellas?
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And our co-host, executive producer, the music director, the E-Man, the funky one, the funky one, James.
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How you feeling, man?
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Man, that's a wonderful introduction, man.
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I'm doing well.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, brother.
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Hey, yo, yo.
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And I'm glad you brought I'm glad you brought some old stuff up for hot seconds.
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Because you know why?
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What's going on?
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You know it.
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Yeah, because this week, this weekend, you know, we had some NFL games, and I was trying to get his brother on our panel a chance to get his C note back, but he don't even know what a C note is.
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And as it turned out, he would have owed me two C notes.
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So maybe it's best he didn't get to talk to me.
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Let's get down to business tonight, fellas.
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What's real?
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Tonight we got four conversations.
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The first is when a marriage ends, do the private details remain private?
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Second, Jalen Hurst recently donated$600,000 to help put air conditioning in a Philadelphia high school.
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Is that generosity, community responsibility, or proof that the government is failed or failing?
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Then we're going to get into the argument that might break the comment section.
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Should DNA testing be mandatory before a father's name is placed on a birth certificate?
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We've been seeing a lot of things in the news lately about this kind of thing.
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Finally, as usual, we get into our clowning mode and we're going to lighten things up with our own Mount Russmore of female C.
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So let's get into it.
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Let's get to it right away, fellas.
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This first segment and this first section, recently, if you've been following news at all, Tod Tucker, who is the husband of Candy Barris, publicly discussed intimate details from his marriage to her.
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Candy pushed back and said he was sensationalizing private parts of their relationship after the divorce.
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We're not here to judge everything that happened inside their divorce.
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The bigger question is something that could apply to anybody.
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Once a marriage ends, do either of the former spouses have a right to publicly reveal what happened behind closed doors?
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And tonight, nobody, out of our crew, nobody gets to hide.
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Well, it depends.
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Blue, you know you're famous for that.
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And your choices are tell your full truth or keep the marriage private forever.
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Those are your choices.
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Tell your full truth or keep the marriage private forever.
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So the first thing I'm gonna do, we're gonna have a little quick segment and I'm gonna throw questions out to all of you.
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E, you my first one that I'm gonna throw one out to.
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If your former spouse tells a public version of the marriage that makes you look bad, do you reveal everything necessary to defend yourself or do you just stay quiet?
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Talk to me, bro.
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I don't do really do tick for tack.
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I think that um anything that happens in a marriage should stay private.
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And then if um the other partner decides to be petty and starts to broadcast things that happen during the marriage and stuff like that, all because emotions jump into play.
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And once a woman has um characteristic emotions, emotions take over logic, and then when emotions take over logic, and that's when they go ahead and start telling people's business about something that was probably between you and the hubby, or you and you know, your significant other, as a man, you know, I believe that the best, the best revenge is success.
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Do better.
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You know?
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You know what I'm saying?
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So is that a yes or a no?
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Get a better looking woman being fine as hell, spend money on her so every time she sees her, she says, Man, I didn't even know you can get there.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Success is the best revenge.
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Yes, sir.
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I got you.
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Blue, this one is for you.
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Does a person lose the right to marital privacy when the couple made money by publicly sharing their relationship?
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That's a tricky one.
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Because if they publicly made it out there, then, you know, you're gonna have hungry people.
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Um, I'm gonna say keep it on that same level, though, man.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I'm not gonna be like, you know, we're not together no more, that, you know, let's let's spill the beans.
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I'm gonna be like, you know, let's just keep it on the same level.
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You know, whatever we, whatever information that we gave out when we were together, it's on that same playing field.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And ain't no need to go any higher or any lower.
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Just be like, you're like, you know, we're like, yeah, yeah, we did that.
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What else you want to know?
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Period.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Just keep it straight like that.
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So, so, Lou, I'm still, I'm still dealing with you on this.
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Is there a difference between discussion why the marriage failed and revealing intimate bedroom details?
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Is there a difference between that?
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I mean, that's not really.
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I'm gonna be honest with you because it's on the individual.
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If what E was saying, you know, if you're trying to go petty, you know, that's the that's the individual.
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I'm I'm gonna be like, yo, hey, look, it didn't work out, it didn't work out.
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What else y'all want to know?
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You know, I'm only gonna give you what I want to give you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Now, if my if my ex-partner, if she wants to go all out like that, then that's on her.
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But I'm gonna still be like, I'm gonna keep it on that cool level playing field.
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I'm gonna be like, I was like, nah, this is what this is what's up.
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I was like, this is two sides of each story.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You can you can believe either one of them that you want, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it cool level like that, you know?
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Big game.
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If somebody turns your private life into a movie, a podcast, or a book, does making money from it change the argument that you have?
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Heck yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Break it down, boy.
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So basically, if you're you can say whatever you want.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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This people get married.
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I mean, because, like, for instance, all you guys are my friends.
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If I know some deep dark secrets about you that broke, I don't care if we even if we're not friends anymore, I'm gonna keep that in the vault.
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You feel me?
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Right, right.
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That's because we're friends.
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Right.
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You might get married.
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You were friends when you got married, but you might not be friends when you break up.
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Right.
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So it's a fair game if you don't got that NDA.
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So, so check this out, uh James.
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So that that that thing that you're going through, like if they're doing uh a movie, podcast, a book, is that healing, storytelling, revenge, or is it simply good business if you're throwing it down?
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It depends on who it's coming from and where it's coming from.
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Like, if I'm still cool with the person, it's probably good business because we already talked about it in advance about it, and we kind of agree on what we're doing.
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But, you know, it depends how bad I treated them.
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Or either how bad you was treated, either way.
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I was treated, either way.
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Right, right.
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Well, look, let's put some pressure on both sides of this.
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And I and this is where we're gonna get into our open debate portion of this, okay?
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Do marriage vows create a permanent expectation of privacy even after the divorce?
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And these are the questions that I'm gonna throw out as a group kind of for us to deal with.
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If one spouse lies publicly, does the other spouse have the right to release receipts?
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Should protecting the children matter more than clearing your own name?
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Is telling your truth automatically disrespectful if that truth embarrasses another person?
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Is there a difference between take talking to a therapist or talking to a big audience?
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And if both people agree to put the relationship on television, is privacy already gone out the whole situation?
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Now, take uh I'm gonna throw this out to E first.
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E, take one of those questions and give me give me an answer for it.
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Matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you.
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I'll pick the question for you.
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Should protecting the children matter more than declaring your own name?
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Okay, you said what was the question again?
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Because you kind of like blinked out on me.
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What's the question again?
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Should protecting the children more should protecting the children matter more than protecting your own name?
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Yes.
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Protecting the children is a lot more, there's more priority to protect the children than your name.
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Because if you protect the children, when the kids grow up, when they get a little older, to the point where you can actually have a conversation and tell them, look, this is what really happened.
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The only reason why I didn't step in when she was saying all that yin-yang about how I was and what I did, because it would affect y'all.
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And I don't want this to be uh psychological that will affect you psychologically and stuff like that.
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So that's why I took the hit.
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Now, when you get older, now you know you're capable of understanding the deal of what happened.
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Then I'll break the whole story down to you.
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This is what really happened.
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And once you do that, kids respect you even more because you're willing to take the hit for the sake of the kids.
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And that's what I said.
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Don't, don't bring the kids into a disagreement or argument.
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That's the worst thing you can do.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It happened.
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Whatever happened between y'all, it happened before the kids were born.
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Keep it that way.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Don't let the kids, don't bring the kids in as a weapon because a lot of these ladies out here have said it.
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Some of y'all ladies out here like using kids as a damn weapon.
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You need to stop that.
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Stop that crazy stuff.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Well, check this out.
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I got a hypothetical for us, fellas.
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Your former spouse releases a documentary and she tells only the parts that make you look responsible for the divorce.
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You have text messages that could prove that story is false, but releasing them would embarrass your children.
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Do you release the messages or do you take the public law?
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Since E kind of spoke on that already, I'm gonna throw this out the big game, and and then you follow right up on it, Sebastian B.
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Blue.
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Both of y'all kind of handle this hypothetical that I created here.
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I I would take an L.
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I would take an L.
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I would take the high road.
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I mean, as you know, my kids, you know what?
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Sometimes the kids don't need to know anything.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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Yeah, true.
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But I would take the I would take the high road.
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Even if they got older as adults, that's between me and their mom.
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I don't need to discuss that with you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If they weren't, you know, it's like that situation where, you know, they they didn't have nothing to do with that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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We we two adults that just didn't agree.
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You know what I'm saying?
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One just one chose to go one way, and you know, being the dad, I'm gonna be like, nah, I need to, I need to set keep the example straight for you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Right.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Only thing I would do differently, like if if I did mention to them, like say my daughter or my son, if they were married, they was going through something similar, and they come ask me as adults, yeah, then I would talk to them then.
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Correct, correct.
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Agreed.
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You know what?
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You know what I think that shows, I think that's what that's really uh real and to the point.
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And I'm matter of fact, I've lived that myself out in real life, man.
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Okay.
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Final answer, this is one sentence each.
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I'm kicking it to each one of you.
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I don't, like I said, I don't need a dissertation on this because we want to keep things flowing.
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After a divorce, tell your full truth or keep the marriage private forever.
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Big games, you first.
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I mean, I probably would keep it private, but if I'm somebody I'm close with, I'm talking to a therapist or talking to one of my really close friends, I'm gonna tell them my side.
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Okay.
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Blue, what you gonna do?
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So it's almost kind of mirror what what he's saying.
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It depends on who I'm talking to.
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Even even my closest, even my closest comrades, confidants, and so on and so on, because you know, they may, they're gonna have a different relationship with, you know, the person I was with than I am.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Even though we're cool like that, like that, they, you know, who knows?
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They might who knows?
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But I'm gonna keep it, I'm gonna keep it as private as possible.
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Because once again, I've been through something like that.
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You know, you might, you know, you my people's thick and thin, but you know, you you kind of strayed toward what she was saying over, you know, what I'm telling you, and so on and so on and so on.
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So I've I've been through that.
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So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep as much, I'm gonna keep it as much private as possible, man.
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E throwing it out to you after the divorce, tell your full truth or you keep the marriage private forever.
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I gotta keep that uh I gotta keep that private.
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I don't believe in, and this is my personal opinion, you know, I don't believe in no no therapy or anything like that.
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I think that whatever we've gone through as a man, I'm just gonna deal with it.
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Whatever we did in the marriage, I'll take it to my grave.
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And I expect you to take yours to your grave too.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So what are we, whatever we do, we just keep it between each other.
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I don't think it you should air out your dirty laundry to the public because people like to see negative things happen to other people.
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They don't really care about your well-being between both of y'all.
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They just want to just want to hear gossip.
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They just want to talk about both of y'all, and and it's gonna be y'all that is so true, man.
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So, no.
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Keep it private.
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I think, I think, I think for myself, man, I think we all in agreement on this, man.
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I'm gonna keep it private myself.
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The only time I'm gonna give up any tapes is if the kids are like they're in relationships now, and I'm talking about married relationships, and and they bring those kind of questions to me, yeah, then then yeah, I'm gonna give up some tapes then.
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But people by why they're little, no, and I'm keeping things private, maybe even among my comrades.
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Now, therapy, like James was saying earlier, I'm doing therapy, yup, I'm gonna give up some tapes in that.
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But I know that's confidential.
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It ain't going nowhere.
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And I'm definitely not trying to do no book podcasts and all and all the other, etc.
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So I think um we all came in agreement for that.
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The importance of protecting our children is above everything.
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Now, check this out.
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We need the audience on the second next one.
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If your former spouse revealed private details and made you look bad, would you respond with everything you know?
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And we already kind of hit the part that we we would be silent.
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So I think for the most part, like I said, as a group, we've come out with it that we're gonna keep things going.
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Now, some people use their platform to tell private stories, but other people use their platform to solve public problems.
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That brings us to Jalen Hurts.
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Jalen Hurts recently donated$600,000 through his foundation to help install air conditioning at Northeast High School in Philadelphia.
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First, we should give the man credit.
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You know, yeah, on the real students deserve a safe and comfortable place to learn.
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And he put real money behind that belief.
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But the no but this donation creates a second question.
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Why did it take an NFL quarterback to help solve a basic school problem?
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Should wealthy athletes and suburbanies be expected to fix problems that taxpayers and elected officials have failed to solve?
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These are things food for thought.
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Blue, I'm gonna throw this first out to you.
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When you first heard about this donation, is your first reaction appreciation for Janet Hurts or frustration with the school system?
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Hey, I'm gonna be real with you, man, because you know y'all up at, you know, it's a sports thing.
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I thought this was May Man.
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I thought this was May Man from the uh the basketball joint, man, that just won a championship.
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I thought that's who that was, man.
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This is the quarterback.
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Okay, Blue, you went and get the wretch out like you know.
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Okay, I'ma have to hit you with the I'ma have to hit to hit you with the biggest.
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Ain't his name Jalen too?
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Ain't it ain't it ain't the dude Jalen?
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Ain't Jalen too?
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Hey, man.
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Hey, hey, they both Jalen's, baby.
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Hey, they both Jalen's, but either way, either way, big big respect and and mad props to him doing this, man.
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Because clearly he saw it.
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Before you go, uh audience, I want y'all to look at this.
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I want you to know in every barbershop we do have goons that don't be up on.
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They just don't know what anything that's it.
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But they still gotta please.
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So we still gotta hear it.
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And you hear him.
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You hear him, man.
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Hey, he's he's still he still hurt from losing this in the last podcast.
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It's all good.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm kind of bleeding at the side, right?
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Hey, when I just saw Jalen, hey, when I saw Jalen, I was like, but anyway, man, big ups because this is something that should have been done on a local level, man.
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But big ups to anybody who feels as though, you know, if on a local level it's not being done, they'd be like, hey, you know, I'm gonna step in and do this.
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Hey, man, big ups to anybody who does this, man.
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I mean, and this is huge, man.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Hey, big up, big ups to main man, man.
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Big ups to him.
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Okay.
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Look, uh, James, I'm gonna throw this to you.
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Do successful black athletes carry an unfair burden to rescue their communities that they came from?
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What you think about that?
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I don't know if it's an unfair burden.
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I mean, I don't think they still have to.
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It's a good thing they do.
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This means it's their money.
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I mean, the city should have been responsible for all these different things.
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And it's definitely no matter how you look at the city, you got more money than he got.
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So they should have been able to take care of it.
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And you look in New York, how Mondami's doing things.
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New York got, for years they couldn't fix anything, but now everything's getting fixed.
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Everything's getting done.
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They're figuring a way to get it done.
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So I think if you have the right people in there, you can get it done.
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No, no, no question.
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E, should major donations be public or should people give quietly?
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I think um it depends on the athlete.
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And I think if you making a major donation so you can get your name out there so people can say, okay, yeah, he's done this and he's done that, then yes.
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But if you're not like a a big name athlete and you're just like a regular average Joe that got money, you should do it privately.
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It wouldn't make you no difference at all if you're private.
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But if it was a big-time athlete, yeah.
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You want your name out there.
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This is this is selling your name.
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So what Jalen Hurts did, you know, I applaud it.
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I mean, he's been doing this since 2024 when he donated 200,000 to uh schools, 10 different schools to uh fix that AC condition.
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Now, to me, I think he was just doing it just to be doing it in terms of putting his name out there because he did it again in uh September 13th, where he put out 600,000.
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So it's not like the government or the because the federal government funding is 121 million, in which 11.7 of it goes to the schools.
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88% of it goes from this, comes from the state and the local government to finance the the fee for the schools.
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So it's not like the schools are not getting money.
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It's just that I believe that he just did that to put his name out there.
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So that's just my take on him.
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He did a good job.
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Like the answer that, yeah, every athlete, if you're famous, you need to put your name out there so people can know you're doing some donations.
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That's how that is.
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Check this out.
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We we're coming into our open debate area of this right now.
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And so once again, I'm gonna have these questions that I create, and then I'll come with the scenario.
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Does becoming a wealthy, does becoming wealthy, period, create a responsibility to give back?
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Is helping your community in obligation or personal choice?
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Why can't one athlete address a problem that a large city allowed to continue?
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Should taxpayers demand answers whenever a celebrity has the fund a basic public need?
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Do we celebrate famous donors while ignoring the ordinary guy who gives time and money every single day?
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And if an athlete chooses not to donate publicly, does that mean the athlete forgot where he came from?
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So no.
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Let's give everybody a hard version.
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I'm gonna throw this out to y'all keeping it keeping in mind all of the questions I just threw out there.
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A player earns 50 mil, but he says he supports his family.
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He pays taxes and I don't have no obligation to donate anything else.
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Is he wrong?
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You take the first crack at this.
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No, you're not wrong.
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Hey, if you want to, you can.
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If you don't want to, you know, it's your money, you know.
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But if you have that type of money, if you're making money, if you're out, if you're already a millionaire and you're getting money coming in, then yes, it will make sense to do some type of donations.
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It's not like you're not going, kind of like you're not getting the money back, because when you do the donation and you go ahead and do the taxes on it, you get some, you get uh credit for those for those donations and stuff like that.
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Works good for you when you're writing off your taxes.
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So as a celebrity, as a millionaire, as a billionaire, absolutely.
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You need to put yourself out there, do some donation, do something good for your society or wherever you feel like you came from, you need to put your stamp on it.
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Kind of like um Tyler Perry.
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Screw it exactly.
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How do you feel?
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Blue, Blue, how do you feel about that?
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Uh, to me, man, it doesn't matter what level you're on, you know, it doesn't matter not whether or not you're professional, entertainer, athlete, whatever, whatever, whatever, if you are putting up, putting up money like this, whether it's, you know, I don't know, you know, menial or maxed or or to the max to extent.
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I mean, man, if you got it, you should do it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Whether or not you seek the recognition or not, it's like, you know, you should, if, you know, God willing, if it if you're able to do it, do it, man.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So it to me, it doesn't matter.
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If you could do it, do it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And okay, do you feel they got an obligation to do it?
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No, it's no obligation to do it.
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It's just, you know what's in your heart.
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It's like, you know, you know, like, you know, walking through DC, I'm gonna give a prime example.
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Walking through DC, man, it's like, you know, if, you know, if I was in a position where I had money that I could donate, I'd be like, you know what?
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I need to donate.
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I need to donate so that they could do something about the smell in DC.
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It ain't the ocean.
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It ain't the ocean.
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It ain't the ocean.
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But it, you know, it's just something, but then you gotta, then you gotta think about, you know, is it gonna go to that?
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And I'm not trying to prolong this any longer, but you know, my recent vision over in another country, not even another country, another part of the US, man.
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I was sitting here as, you know what?
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And I was telling my partner, I said, you know what, if I had the money, I would donate to this part of the island so that they, so that the not only the community, but the wildlife would be in a better place.
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The infrastructure would be in a better place because when you go to another part of the same island, it's like, how come it's more flourishing on this part of the island than it is on this part of the island?
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And I was like, yeah, you know, it's just it's discerning, man.
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It's heartbreaking when you see it.
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It's like, come on, man, this is something's gotta be done.
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So yeah.
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No, no, that's that's real.
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That's real.
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James, I'm gonna lastly throw it to you.
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A player earns 50 million, but he says he supports his family, pays taxes, and he ain't got no obligation to do anything else.
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Is he wrong?
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I think so.
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I think we all have an obligation.
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You know, all pay it for it.
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You know, like if like for instance, if I if I hit the lottery, let's say for 200 million, I got to keep 100.
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Trust and believe, I'm gonna figure out what I need for my family to live off the rest of my life.
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I'll make sure my kids got what they need, make sure my grandkids got what they need.
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We're straight.
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So this extra stuff, how can I help other people?
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Because once you put that goodwill out there, you never lose it.
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You know, so let's say I lose all the money.
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I got all these people now got my back.
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I'll never have to worry about a place to live, I'll never have to worry about something to eat because I got that goodwill out there.
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So I think it's an obligation.
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Well, you know what?
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That's one way, one good way to look at it.
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I look at it kind of from your position that yeah, I I don't think they owe, I don't think they owe anything, but I do think their heart should be one that they will want to give.
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They will want to.
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Karma is a mother.
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Look, you just like you go up, you can fall down.
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And you painted the perfect scenario that if you fell down, while not every single person is gonna come get you back, you will have had enough people that they will be there for you.
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Lastly, the other thing I want to throw in it is I saw people with their money do this quietly, man.
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When they built the African American Museum, nobody knows that Michael Jordan gave$10 million.
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I didn't know that until I went down here and I saw the names of the donors.
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Never heard a lick about that Michael had gave$10 million.
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Didn't hear that magic gave five, and it was a lot of people that gave large sums that I didn't know they had gave.
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I wasn't surprised, but I didn't know.
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So there are a lot of people doing things in our communities.
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They're giving back, and they didn't always make a lot of noise about it.
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But as he was saying earlier, some people might want to make noise because they wanted to be for their quote unquote for their branding.
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You know, that type of thing.
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Well, look, Jalen Hurts put his name and his money behind helping children.
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Our next subject asks when a man should put his name on a child's birth certificate.
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And this one has really been blowing up lately.
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I don't know why it's been in the news so much, but it's reality.
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They showed a uh it was a thing on YouTube the other day about a guy who raised his kids for umpteen years, found out he wasn't the father, and then wanted to stop, and the girl had a hard time with it.
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Look, here's the question that's going to light up the comments.
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Should every newborn receive a DNA paternity test before the father's name is placed on the birth certificate?
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One sideways universal testing protects the mother, the father, and the child.
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The other side, I guess, feels differently.
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If every baby is tested, no individual woman is being accused of anything.
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The other side says mandatory testing begins with a excuse me, begins a family suspicion, treats every mother like a possible liar, and puts the government inside a proper relationship.
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Well, tonight, fellas, every one of us is going to take a crack at this.
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Mandatory testing for every birth or testing only when somebody requests it.
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And I can't I don't want to hear nobody be cracking me with it depends.
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Okay.
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We gonna I want you to come hardcore on it, okay?
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So before we debate, everybody give your first answer without explaining anything.
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What's your first answer to that?
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Hell yeah.
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Mandatory testing for every birth or testing only when somebody requested.
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Mandatory for every birth.
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That has to be that's gotta be put in law.
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That's gotta be put in law.
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Okay, stop.
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Because we gon' I'm gonna come back to you.
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I'm gonna come back to you.
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Blue.
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One sentence on the joint.
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What you feel?
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If you drop the seed up in the oven, then you best be ready to take the bread out.
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Period.
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Right?
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:04.640
Right, right.
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.640
Okay, so you saying straight up it should be mandatory testing?
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:17.920
All I'm saying is if it's your child, you drop the seed in the oven, then you best bed be ready to take care of the bread that's coming out.
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:18.319
Period.
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:20.000
But how do you know other people didn't drop the same seed?
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.000
How do you know other people ain't in that same bubble?
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.480
I'm gonna tell it to you, I'm gonna tell it to you like this.
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:27.519
That's a good question.
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.119
How you know that nobody else put some yeast up in that joint?
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:32.480
I feel what you say.
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:41.039
But if you know your, if you know your lady and you know that it's just y'all two, you the only one cooking in that kitchen.
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.519
Come on, now if it's somebody now hold on, hold on.
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:52.319
Now, if it's somebody you done met, if you done, if it's somebody you done met and it was a one-night stand that turned into something else, then that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother scenario, fellas.
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.079
But we talking right here.
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:54.480
Right.
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:55.759
We're talking this right here.
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.960
Okay, James, I'm gonna come, I'm gonna come back to you, Blue.
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:04.319
James, give me give me your take on it, on a quick take, and then I'm gonna open this up for a larger debate.
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.039
Man, the doctor should be there and conceiving.
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:09.759
Should be a doctor every second of the way, man.
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:10.640
Get that.
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:11.599
Yeah, man.
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:13.119
I want proof.
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:14.240
I want proof.
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:15.039
This ain't more.
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:15.680
This ain't more.
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.839
This ain't a Maury Polish show, man.
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.720
Man, the doctor gotta be there the whole time.
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.559
So you definitely with the mandatory testing.
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:24.799
Yeah.
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.119
Dr.
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:31.359
Bessler, break it down for me while you feel the mandatory testing is necessary because you was getting ready to break it off.
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.319
Break it off for us while you feel that's necessary.
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:46.240
Look, mandatory testing is so, it should be priority because one, it saves the headache for the guy to go into a situation to not know that a kid is his.
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:56.400
Can you imagine people, guys are going to a marriage to kids that's not even his, and then years later he finds out a kid not his.
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.720
Do you know how psychologically that messes up a man in his head?
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:01.519
It kills him.
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.640
But he's going into the marriage, though.
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:06.880
It don't matter.
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:12.240
You you got to you got to do that testing because a lot of these women out here ain't telling you the truth.
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:13.200
All right, so hold on.
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.559
Maybe I'm messed up about the scenario.
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:17.119
Okay, my bad.
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.160
They find some simp to go ahead and get married.
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.240
So, yeah, he's gonna take care of this kid and then have sex with them.
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.279
The months might be a little bit off by a few months.
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.359
And you know, we don't pay attention to that.
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.720
We just go ahead and what kind of women are what kind of women are you dealing with?
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.720
You better get with the times, old school.
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.079
Old school, you've been away.
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.200
You you're not even in the market.
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:40.720
I'm married in a market.
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.079
You're not even in the market, baby.
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:43.599
So let me let me let me get you here.
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:44.319
You're not in the market.
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:45.440
No, because you're out here.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.279
That's what's going on out here.
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:48.960
That's going on out here.
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:51.759
So, guys, be careful.
00:31:52.000 --> 00:32:00.240
And please, we want mandatory testing because I'm telling you, there's been there's some marriages out here with these guys having babies.
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.519
I mean, got these kids, and their kids are not even theirs.
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.240
And when they find out, they lose their damn mind.
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:07.119
But you know what?
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.519
Donald Trump should put that in law.
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:12.559
Put it in law.
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:13.920
So what you say?
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.279
So Donald Trump ain't doing it himself because he got a bunch of strays.
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:17.920
Right, right.
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:20.000
He don't even want to bust this kind of move.
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.400
He don't have all kinds of strays out there.
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.160
So help me out with the scenario.
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.799
You saying, help me out with the scenario.
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:37.039
Are y'all saying that if the woman that you with, if she's already pregnant and you marry her, or is it you get her pregnant while y'all married?
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:38.559
Because it's not making it.
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:39.119
No, no, no.
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:40.319
So let me say this.
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.119
Okay, mother's baby, father's maybe.
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:44.000
Always.
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:44.559
Always.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.200
You don't know unless you get that test for sure.
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:47.680
That's right.
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.680
But if you with the shorty from jump, that just means you love her.
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:53.519
You love her about it.
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:57.839
You know you ain't pulling out, and you know that.
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.839
I'm just saying, all of you.
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.200
You gotta go to work sometime.
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:01.759
You go to work.
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:04.000
True that.
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.680
Why are you going to church?
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.319
Why are you going to church working, going out to the supermarket?
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:09.039
True that.
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:09.680
True that.
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:10.319
True that.
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:11.920
But then that's that's on the shorty.
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.880
That's on that shorty.
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.319
You shouldn't be getting married to the shorty.
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:16.000
But you don't know.
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:17.680
What do you mean I don't know, man?
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.680
Because you think she's straight up, you think she's a straight up person, right?
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:23.599
Because let's let's be let's keep it real.
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.880
Okay, let's keep it real.
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.799
Us men have done some dirt.
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:27.279
Okay.
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:29.920
We find ways of doing what we want to do.
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:30.160
Okay.
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:31.440
We really want to do it.
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:31.920
Okay.
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.240
It works the same for both ways.
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:40.319
I could walk out the door, go around the clock, round a block, and next thing I know, come home, everything seems okay, but I don't know the name.
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.519
I can't, I don't know the neighbor sitting there waiting for me to roll out.
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.720
I don't know any of it.
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:47.680
But then it's kind of Okay, go ahead.
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.200
I was gonna say this.
00:33:49.519 --> 00:34:00.559
I think almost in any scenario or any case that goes down, if you married and she has a baby while you are married, you're gonna take that that's yours.
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.599
But if you just listen, but if you just date the chick, I'm with the school.
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.200
Hold on, let me let me finish.
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:08.320
Hold on, let me finish.
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:08.960
Let me finish.
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:16.559
If I'm just dating a babe and and she comes up pregnant, yeah, you gotta I I'm with the I'm with the mandatory joint then.
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:17.039
I'm with you.
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:22.880
If I'm if I'm married, if I'm married to you, I ain't really looking for it to have to be mandatory.
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:25.519
Give me a reason to believe like it ain't mine.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.880
Like I'm out with a totally white child.
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:29.280
Okay.
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.239
Or something something totally outrageous.
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.320
But once I'm not gonna be married and require my wife to be able to do it.
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:41.039
I'm not gonna be married and require my right.
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:41.760
I'm sorry.
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.199
I'm not gonna be married and require my own.
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:52.079
The reason why I'm gonna interject on it is for the simple fact that marriages back in the day is different from marriages now.
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:54.880
It happened back in the day too.
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:03.599
When your money ain't right, your money ain't right, you don't think she's gonna go to another dude that the money is right?
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.800
And then once they go to the other dude, what do you think the other dude is gonna do?
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:07.920
He's gonna be tapping.
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:09.440
She's tapping marriage.
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:10.880
She's coming back to the real marriage.
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:14.239
So hold on.
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:15.920
It's not just now.
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:17.360
This has been happening for this.
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:18.719
It happens.
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:19.280
It happened.
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:21.119
So you're telling you married, don't mean nothing.
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.480
You're gonna say, Okay, don't mean nothing.
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:26.719
E, I just want to be clear.
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:45.039
You're saying that if you was to marry a woman today, you would not be surprised because of the atmosphere and everything that's going on, that if something came up, money issues, that she would creep and get with a dude and get the money and take care of whatever she needed to take care of.
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.440
And if she became pregnant, you would wonder if that's your child.
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:50.239
And you marry.
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:50.960
It happens.
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:51.599
It happens.
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:52.639
No, no, no, no, no.
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:55.039
EX juice.
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:57.440
I'm talking about you.
00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:58.159
EXG.
00:35:59.039 --> 00:35:59.280
Right.
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.119
I'm not talking about a bunch of these scenarios.
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:02.719
We're talking about you.
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:03.360
Right.
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.079
I'm talking about you.
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.880
I'm gonna want to find out.
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.719
Because if we it's gonna be nobody's when you're talking a scenario, you never had something.
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:24.320
Let's say me and her ain't good, or me and her have a few arguments, or me and her had a disagreement, and I've been sweeping on the couch here and there, whatever, whatever.
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.559
Is that enough to make us step up and cut a woman in cheek?
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.480
But it look, it happens in today's society.
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.320
We're not talking about back in the day.
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.079
We're talking about today's society.
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.719
Don't think that marriages make a difference.
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:39.280
It don't.
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:40.719
Just because you got that thing on the back of the room.
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.000
So why don't you marry you?
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:45.360
Women are doing nothing.
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:47.119
What I'm saying?
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:48.639
So you're saying the marriage don't mean nothing to me.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.360
You you're not in the dating game, so I'm gonna tell you, they're doing it.
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:55.519
And I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm cool with that.
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.320
But that don't change the standard for what marriage stands for.
00:36:58.480 --> 00:36:59.360
That don't change that standard.
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:02.400
It's just a word.
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:03.840
It don't mean nothing no more.
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:04.719
That's a done deal.
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:05.599
It don't mean nothing.
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.880
So you're saying, let me jump people get married then.
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:09.679
Let me jump in here.
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.400
It doesn't benefit the man, it benefits the woman.
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.079
So it's about a husk.
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:17.760
All right, let's go.
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:21.360
It don't benefit the man, it benefits the woman.
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.119
Let me say that one more time so you people out there can understand.
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.480
If you're gonna get married, there is no benefit for the man.
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:29.840
It's beneficial for the woman.
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:33.920
Well we're working with a contract, but we just can't say we just hey, we good.
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.079
The marriage only says, if you leave me, I can take half your money.
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:39.199
So it's it.
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.199
What happens to what happened to God saying, I'm gonna give you a helpmate?
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.760
So you don't have a helpmate when you marry?
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:48.639
Is that what you're saying?
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:49.920
Because you're saying it benefits.
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:52.320
I don't get a helpmate.
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:53.199
You wanna be broke?
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:54.400
I don't get a helpmate.
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:55.760
I don't want a help mate anymore.
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:57.199
Is that what you say?
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:01.679
Tyler Perry is saying, I wouldn't want to ever be married because of divorce.
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.039
It's not like I don't believe in marriage.
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:04.159
Tyler Perry might be gay.
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:06.239
Tyler Perry might be gay.
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:06.559
Okay.
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.000
He might be gay.
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.599
Okay, he might be gay.
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:11.440
I ain't never seen him with no honey.
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:11.840
Okay.
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.639
Let me say that the views and the opinion of the individual is getting away.
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.719
The bottom line is managed is a contract.
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:26.559
The views and opinions because your individual back in the day has nothing to do with brothers just talking.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:27.920
That's it.
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.440
We need hardly what he had.
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:32.719
Three times he's gonna be the code.
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:35.519
And guess what?
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:40.800
The woman that was messing around with the side people that he had.
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.760
She's having sex with her side people.
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:45.119
And that's who and that's his wife.
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.639
Let me let me know.
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:47.760
I stand here.
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:49.519
Okay, do I stay correct?
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:50.639
Do I stand corrected?
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:55.840
So I stand corrected from the standpoint you saying Tyler Perry's been married three times?
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:56.400
No.
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:57.840
I was just made a couple of things.
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.079
I think he said Steve Harvey.
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:03.760
Oh, Steve Harvey.
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.079
Steve Harvey.
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:07.519
Steve Harvey.
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:08.079
Steve Harvey.
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:09.440
Let me say this.
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:16.639
We're talking about relationships right now, and we're talking about how it's going to affect the husband and the wife or the girlfriend.
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.599
But the main thing, it doesn't matter about none of that.
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:20.880
The main thing is the kids.
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:25.199
It's good for the kids to know exactly who the parent is.
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:27.360
So it should be a law.
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:28.639
Let me tell you why.
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:39.920
Because I've known people who have an old friend of mine where she didn't find out until her father got sick in the hospital when she was had to go give him, you know, bud or something like to help him.
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.320
Found out that was not her father.
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:46.079
Now this was now she was in her 40s at the time when she found this out.
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:46.559
Wow.
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:47.599
You know what I mean?
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:48.559
So it's important.
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:54.000
It's important for, and the mom knew all the time that that wasn't her father.
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:54.400
See?
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:54.960
You feel me?
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.559
He thought that was his daughter.
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:03.760
So it so I think it's important just for the thing, the child, forget the parents, forget marriage, forget all that.
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.800
It's important for the child to know who their biologicals are.
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:16.000
So you saying, so just so I can get you right, James, on this, you feel like whether they're married or not, there needs to be a test automatically um applied.
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:18.079
It should be a standard.
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.559
This way, it's nobody's feelings are this is just the way it is.
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.360
We get somebody get pregnant, this is what we're gonna do.
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:29.360
Is that too much of the government being involved, or should that be something requested by one of the parties?
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.440
The government gets involved and gets divorced.
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:33.840
So why not get why not be involved before that happens?
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.639
One of the parties, one of the parties acts for a divorce, though.
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.920
The government doesn't just come in and divorce.
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.760
But the government, but the government, but the government will garnish your pay.
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.280
That's only because somebody acts for that.
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:47.599
Right.
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.199
But see, let so you can get divorced for different reasons.
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.320
And let's say, you know, but let's just let's keep it just for the kids, though.
00:40:54.480 --> 00:41:02.079
And if you got divorced, if you know that's your kid, or you know that because this there's a lot of men and women out there who don't really care about that being my biological.
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:03.280
They they feel these people.
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.679
The thing is, you go into a relationship of everyone's honest, everyone's open.
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:13.679
So no matter what happens, there's nothing just come come down later on around down the line saying this is not my child.
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.519
You know, you know you already know from the beginning, and I think that's important.
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.119
I'm gonna give you some real talk on it, a real life experience for me.
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:26.400
Look, my mom was not married, and this is back in like the 50s, the late 50s.
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:26.800
Okay.
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.239
Okay, I'm I'm born.
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.559
And I never knew who my biological was.
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.159
And y'all heard me say earlier on the show, I didn't find out who my biological was until 2023.
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.800
Okay, when I did uh 23 and me.
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.199
So for the longest, my mom would just tell me she didn't know.
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.920
And I even told her, I said, Look, mom, I'm not gonna trip on you for something you did at age 20.
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:51.360
If you knew everything that I did at 20 years old, would blow your wig off.
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.960
You know, so I'm not holding you accountable for what you did.
00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:05.440
But she took that to her grave, much like he was just saying earlier, how people just take that stuff to their grave and they, you know, not gonna give up the tapes on what's going on.
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:10.880
So, yes, I would be for mandatory testing, definitely if they're not married.
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:16.719
I think if a person is married, I think that would have to be somebody asking for that.
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:19.679
I don't think it should be mandatory government given.
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:31.599
If I'm married to you, the assumption, even though he is saying women are stepping out at alarmingly high rates, if a woman is stepping out like that, then I'm sure to not ever get married again if this one I'm in don't work.
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.159
Okay, the way, the way that he's talking.
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:35.360
You see what I'm saying?
00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:45.920
So if it's that ratchet out there like that, like he's saying that you could be married, yet that still might not be your child if you're with her, then that's just like a totally whole.
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:51.519
But the thing is, I understand what he's saying about he feels things are ratchet, but let's keep it real.
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.360
Things were ratchet way before now.
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:57.840
So back in the 70s, back in the ratchet.
00:42:58.239 --> 00:42:59.119
This is an agreement.
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.119
But it but it might be another level.
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:04.159
This is another level, though.
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:04.800
This is another level.
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.400
I understand this is another level, baby.
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:07.039
Ain't the same level.
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:07.920
I understand what you're saying.
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.400
Back in the day was respectable level.
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:12.639
This is not respectable.
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:14.000
There's nothing, okay.
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:19.760
This I understand what you're saying, but things like has been happening to people for many, many years.
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:24.079
So it's nothing respectable about having somebody think that's that that's their kid.
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.199
And I and this it has it's happened way before now.
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:32.559
I've known it to happen to people in their 60s and 70s, 80s who just happened to them.
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.400
So that's been happening a hundred years ago.
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:36.880
It's just one of those things that's been happening.
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:38.320
It's not the same thing.
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:38.960
What happened is that the thing is.
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:41.920
Okay, being lied to, but hear me.
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.480
Being lied to doesn't matter what year it is.
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:47.519
You still got lies.
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:50.079
I still disagree with each other.
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:51.280
That is not the same thing.
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:52.320
What happened in the 70s?
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.519
Being lied to the 50s is not happen is not the same thing.
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:57.519
But still, but still, it's still a lie.
00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:58.639
It's still a lie.
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:00.800
I don't care.
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.000
I don't care if it's if it's tomorrow or yesterday.
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:05.280
A lie is a lie.
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:06.960
Wrong is wrong.
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:08.320
Well, it doesn't matter.
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:10.079
It's not stopping the ratchet.
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:11.760
It means it's either wrong.
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.119
I'm not saying it's not ratchet, but I'm saying but wrong is wrong.
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:18.159
So you can't say because it happened yesterday, it's not as bad as today.
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:26.960
Because the person that the question not between you and me, the question would be that lady I knew who found out her father wasn't her father when he was in his deathbed.
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:27.599
Okay.
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:28.480
That hurt her.
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:29.440
That happens a lot.
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:30.400
That's one thing.
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.679
That's one story.
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:32.400
And it doesn't make it.
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:34.239
And it doesn't make it right.
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:35.360
It doesn't make it right.
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:41.599
It doesn't mean if it happens more now or her or less tomorrow, it still affects people in a negative way.
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:42.400
It does.
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:43.360
But think about it.
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:55.039
A lot of these ladies out here that make all these mistakes in their younger age and they look for a man to go ahead and take care of those mistakes they made, we're the one paying the ultimate price because they ain't gonna tell you.
00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:09.440
And then when you're married, when you get into the relationship, and when you start to get into this thing with the little kid, and when you find that the kid is not yours, she knew what she was doing from the jump street because she made those mistakes in the beginning, and now you're the one who's paying the ultimate price.
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.119
So you're not gonna be able to do the choir.
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:11.599
I agree with you.
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.599
Now, more, this happens more than ever than before.
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.679
Now, this is an epidemic.
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:18.639
This is an epidemic.
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:19.840
Not before.
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:22.960
I'm gonna tell you why it's happening more, man.
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:37.039
It's happening more because people are not doing the things before they get married that they should to make sure that they're equally yoked with the individual, that they got things in common with this individual, that these people are on the same level, and and all of those things.
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:38.320
Background check.
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:39.199
Right.
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:40.960
Yeah, almost like a background check.
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.119
I hate to say that, but you might be right about that.
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:43.519
Okay?
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:49.519
And I think you would avoid a lot of this to quote unquote today type ratchet shit.
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:57.679
And you know, the reality of it is, let's if we're gonna talk about this, we gotta talk about the fact that a lot of times us men, our little hair think for our big hair, right?
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.119
That's what I'm I wanted to jump in.
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.159
I'm glad you pointed that out, man, because he keeps talking about the lady.
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.719
You know, it ain't just the lady doing this ratchetness, dog.
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:06.400
It's men are doing this too, right?
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:06.719
Right.
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:11.280
Look at all these look at all these fatherless, look at all these fatherless children.
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:13.599
We ain't saying men.
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:14.880
But who does it more?
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:15.599
Come on, man.
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:16.239
Who doesn't more?
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:17.679
We ain't doing that scenario.
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.639
We're not gonna do that.
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:19.599
Don't do that.
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:20.559
Come on, man.
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:21.440
Come on, man.
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:22.320
Don't do that.
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:23.519
Don't do that.
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:26.159
Respectful women do not initiate divorces.
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:26.800
75%.
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:27.920
No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:28.719
We ain't talking about that.
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.800
I'm talking about this child sex.
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:31.760
I'm talking about this child.
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:33.599
The lie is still alive.
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:35.199
The lie is still alive.
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:36.320
You know what I'm saying?
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:36.800
Nah.
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:37.840
Disagree with you.
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:38.480
Look at the lie.
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:39.599
Look at no, come on, man.
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.360
Look at how many women gotta raise children because the father done stepped out on them.
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:44.079
Come on, bitch.
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.039
Don't be stupid.
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:46.239
What if these?
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:46.800
Come on, man.
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:51.519
Are you missing the fact that she she's making your life a living hell and don't want to be able to do that?
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:52.000
Come on, E.
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:52.639
Come on, E.
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.119
It ain't on the woman, it ain't always on the woman here.
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:56.559
It ain't always on the woman.
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:57.760
I've been there.
00:46:58.880 --> 00:46:59.440
You've been there once.
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:00.480
You've been there once.
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:01.199
You've been there once.
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:06.159
Look at all these countless times with all these children about the students stepped out on them.
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:06.880
The ratchet.
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:07.519
Come on, E.
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:08.239
Don't come on.
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:09.280
Respect it, D.
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.159
Respect it, E.
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:10.719
Respect it.
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:11.599
It goes both ways.
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.119
Don't keep putting it on the lady and go both ways.
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:16.480
It go both ways.
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:17.440
It go both ways.
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.360
So emotionally disattached, and all they want to do is wait.
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.480
If you ain't gonna be with me, you ain't gonna see your kids.
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:25.280
Go both ways.
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:27.840
Don't do that.
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:34.480
There's a lot of good brothers out here that's doing good for their kids, but the moms are so making it difficult that they don't want to see their kids.
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.960
If you're not gonna do something, you're not gonna see your kids.
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:37.199
Nah.
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:38.079
Not all the time, man.
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:40.000
It's a lot of good fathers out here.
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:41.519
It's not all the time.
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:42.159
It's not all the time.
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:42.960
Not all the time.
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:43.679
Come on.
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:46.000
You heard than you.
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:46.800
You heard, baby.
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:47.840
That's a hurt response, man.
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:49.840
Stop living in the 70s.
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.360
We're talking about culture than that.
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:56.960
It's worse than that.
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:58.719
It's culture and reality.
00:47:58.880 --> 00:47:59.440
It ain't now.
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:00.400
It's been happening, dog.
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.920
It's worse now, brother.
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:03.199
Stop living in the 70s.
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:03.920
It's worse now.
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:06.559
Well, let me break this up.
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.639
My question is to you is what's where's your proof that it's worse now?
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.800
Where's your proof that's worse now?
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:21.119
Because you cannot tell me that the way the woman was built in the 70s is the same way the woman is built now.
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:22.400
Two different women.
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.159
Don't don't have the women.
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:25.360
You're talking about feelings.
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:26.559
Two different women.
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:27.679
You can't tell me that's not true.
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.599
You're talking, you're talking feelings.
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:30.719
You're talking feelings.
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:39.760
I give you a lot of credit, man, because a lot of the times that you speak, you speak coming from facts.
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:41.760
But you're speaking from a lot of emotions tonight.
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:43.199
Check on this one, player.
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.800
You have a lot of experience.
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:53.119
He motherfuckers.
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.000
He loot the people bright in there some more.
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:56.960
I could keep going, dog.
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:57.440
Come on, man.
00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:59.039
You need to fact check this, man.
00:48:59.519 --> 00:48:59.920
Come on, man.
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:03.760
He lost this one.
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:05.360
He lost this one, Play.
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:06.719
Can I tell me he lost this one?
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.400
We mentioned this, play.
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:11.440
When there's even a second relationship, you lost this one, Play.
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:13.679
But when will not be?
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:15.119
Who initiates more divorce?
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:15.760
You lost this one.
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:16.400
Think about it.
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:17.440
Everything I say is fact.
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:19.039
Who initiates more divorces?
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:19.679
Men or women?
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.000
Since y'all think everything I'm saying is not fact.
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:23.440
Who initiates more divorces?
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:24.480
Men or women?
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:25.280
Who initiates more?
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:26.639
Where's your fruit?
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:27.840
Exactly.
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:29.280
Look it up, brother.
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:29.920
I'm gonna give you.
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.440
I'm gonna give you the reason women initiate more divorces than men do.
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.280
That's all that you think in a bad relationship.
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:41.280
We're talking about marriages.
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:42.320
We're talking about the channel.
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.199
What I say is factual.
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.719
I go with facts, not by how you feel, but I go with facts.
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:49.760
And that's what I just told you.
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:50.239
Facts.
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.719
So if you can't deal with that bad, but stop doing that.
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:59.760
You say you don't go by feelings, but in you keep saying you don't go by feelings, but uh, while you were saying what you were saying, you kept saying you experienced this.
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.000
That's because you're talking about my experience.
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:03.280
Exactly.
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:04.800
That's but that's your feelings.
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.599
Okay, let me let me give you my feelings and facts.
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:09.519
I just said I'm giving you both facts and facts.
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:13.119
I can't argue, I can't argue with your feelings, but you haven't shown me one fact.
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.679
I just gave you a situation and say I was wrong.
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.400
Tell us, I need you to bring it in.
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:23.280
Please.
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.320
Okay, because we're saying the same things over and over again.
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.760
So it's very, it's very important that I drop this to you.
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:34.880
E, I think you're right about women from the standpoint of initiating divorce.
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.920
That's for two reasons.
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.159
One, men we're not confrontational.
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.159
So we don't even want to be dealing with it.
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:40.639
Okay.
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:50.639
Two, in most cases, especially if you're looking for a woman like you looking for, one that ain't making money like you, one that ain't uh on your level, she needs to survive.
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:59.199
So she's the one that's gonna initiate the freaking divorce because she needs to survive off of that 50-50 that's gonna come off of that.
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.920
Doesn't make it right, doesn't make it wrong.
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:10.960
My main point and uh in and our whole scenario here is should it be should we be mandatory that we do it or not?
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:14.320
Now, there's a strong argument against mandatory testing, also.
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:24.239
Against that mandatory testing, it treats the birth like a possible case of deception, it allows the government to require genetic testing without individual suspicion.
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.400
Biology does not automatically determine who will love and raise a child.
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:32.719
The result could destabilize a family in at the most vulnerable moment.
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.679
And parents, I which is what I feel, parents should make the choice and not the state.
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.639
So if there's nothing to hide, why should mandatory testing be offensive?
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:44.559
And we're kind of gonna close it off here.
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.519
So is there any reason why mandatory testing should be offensive, in your opinion?
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:50.880
It shouldn't be.
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.039
That should be something you guys should get out the way.
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.599
Why not know now and know later on?
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:56.639
I want to know now.
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:58.079
I want to know about y'all man.
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:04.480
Okay, Blue, is there any reason for them to why mandatory testing should be offensive?
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:06.719
No, it shouldn't be offensive.
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.000
No, it shouldn't be offensive.
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:15.440
Okay, and I'm gonna throw this on the people who feel y'all crew that feel like it's mandatory.
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.599
So, James, I know you feel strongly about this.
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.159
Are you comfortable giving the government routine access to every newborn's DNA?
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:26.320
I'm not man, I would take them there personally.
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.360
Man, they be on speed dial.
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.800
They all they on speed dial, they on speed dial to the joint, man.
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:35.199
Yep.
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.679
I had posters in my house letting people know when they walk in.
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:38.559
This is what it means.
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.440
It's like that warning signs like the ADT.
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:42.480
Right.
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:44.559
It'd be warning up signs on my side.
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.920
Well, you know, and I'm throwing this out to the audience now.
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:52.239
Y'all heard like a serious, serious debate on this subject from the fellas.
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.440
And nobody, nobody comes to a clear-cut opinion on it.
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:09.840
We may not agree on who belongs on a birth certificate, but maybe just maybe we can agree on who belongs on music's biggest mouth, the Mount Rushmore of singers.
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.199
And tonight we're doing female singers, okay?
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:17.199
So we're gonna move to that, and I'm gonna throw out some names, fellas.
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.639
I'm gonna throw out some names, and I want you to kind of come up with four out of these names.
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:37.199
We got Arica Franklin for you to consider, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, Patty LaBelle, Shaka Khan, Anita Baker, Diana Ross, Mary J.
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:45.840
Blige, Tina Turner, and Janet Jackson, and I probably could throw Minnie Rippin, Shardet, and a couple others in there.
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:57.920
We're gonna throw those names out and kind of come up with get your opinion for who you feel should be on this Mount Russmore, and kind of tell us why.
00:53:58.320 --> 00:53:58.559
Okay?
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:06.480
And then when we come up with the consensus of the four among us, we're gonna debate the finalist, okay?
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:09.840
And then we'll come out with a final four out of it.
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.960
So you get first crack at this thing, man.
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:13.679
Okay?
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:15.360
You get first crack at it.
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:18.159
I got my own Mount Rushmore.
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:19.199
Do your thing, man.
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.559
You you all would you've been in left field, you've been in left field all night.
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.599
So let's see what you got for us now.
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:29.199
All right, so now we're gonna call Mount Rushmore.
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:29.760
Let's make it happen.
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.400
One of my Mount Rushmore will be Dolly Parton.
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:41.599
She's an American singer, songwriter, slash actor, woman, and a philanthropist.
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.199
My other Mount Rushmore is Missy.
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:47.199
My question to you are you doing this.
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:49.440
My other Mount Rushmore is Missy.
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:50.559
She's not a singer.
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:51.519
She's a rapper.
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:52.800
No, she's not a singer.
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:54.639
She don't qualify.
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.039
Let me get this out the way, man.
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:58.320
Let me, let me, let me, let me cook.
00:54:58.400 --> 00:54:58.800
Let me cook.
00:54:58.960 --> 00:54:59.519
She's not a singer.
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:01.920
Let me get the.
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:02.960
We didn't say rapper.
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:03.599
Let me cook.
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:04.800
She's an American rapper.
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:07.119
Mary Blackman.
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.800
She's a songwriter and she's a recording producer.
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:11.760
She's a American.
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:12.880
So she is a singer.
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:14.000
She's not a singer, though.
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.559
Put some respect on Missy Elliott's name.
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:17.440
Put some respect on the name.
00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.320
Ain't nobody on the level of these people we're talking about going.
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.119
Put some respect on Missy Elliott's name.
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:23.599
Look it up.
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:24.880
Let him finish.
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:26.000
Let him finish.
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:26.880
Let him finish, fellas.
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:27.280
Let him finish.
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:30.320
Let me cook.
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:32.719
Then Whitney Houston is my number.
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.840
Whitney Houston and then Beyonce.
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:36.880
Those are my four.
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:42.320
So I got Dolly Parton, Missy Elliott, Whitney Houston, and Beyonce.
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:43.519
Those are my four.
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:44.159
Okay, hold up.
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:46.480
I'm recording the votes.
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.119
You got Missy, Dolly, Whitney, right?
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:50.639
Did I hear you say Whitney?
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.800
Whitney Houston and Beyonce.
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:54.400
You got two.
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:55.039
Two out of the book.
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:56.800
Beyonce is a non-singer, too.
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:57.199
But okay.
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:58.159
You got two out of four.
00:55:58.400 --> 00:55:59.679
Missy Elliott is a singer.
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:01.920
I want all my people in the comment.
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.320
Can you please screw these cats on Elliott?
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.320
How are you gonna say Miss Elliott ain't no singer?
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.559
I cannot wait to post this show.
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:13.679
Mr.
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.079
Elliott is a technical songwriter.
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:16.800
Come on, y'all.
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:18.719
Get away from the city.
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:21.840
Read an ask for a female songwriter.
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:27.519
This may make people think that you just say stuff to get a race in the city.
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:30.159
I don't see you looking on that computer.
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.400
Because I'm gonna be reading the computer.
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.880
I think I'm gonna be with Google Miss Elliott.
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:35.440
I don't know.
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.360
Melissa Annette, Missy Elliott, also known as Miss Demeanor, is an American rapper.
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.760
Songwriter and a record producer.
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:50.800
Do your research.
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:51.599
Look it up.
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:58.000
If you said if you said the greatest female, if you said you said the greatest, he's a singer female brother all time.
00:56:58.320 --> 00:56:59.519
He's a singer brother.
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:01.599
No matter how you try to twist this thing.
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:04.159
He put it that's he's on his list, man.
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:04.880
She's on his list.
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:07.760
Let it be.
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:12.800
Let it be.
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:13.920
You know what?
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:14.400
You know what?
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:15.280
I sing too.
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:16.800
But I ain't on the men's list.
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:18.400
Let's not go there.
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:19.679
Let's not go there.
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:28.159
If you don't think Lissy Elliott can sing, I want all my people who was looking on this podcast, please harm C the That's right.
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:29.920
Give that me.
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:38.000
He's the way you lost your card last time.
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.440
All right, so out of this list, out of this list that you provide.
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:41.920
Yes.
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:52.000
My first first thing I'm gonna comment on is I'm not about I'm I'm I'm not with the whole route Mount Rushmore thing.
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:54.559
Because to me, that's just an American thing.
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:55.280
You know what I'm saying?
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:02.320
But you're not a thing for you, you done plastic full the greatest of all time.
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:11.360
No, I'm talking about you done plastic four presidents on a mountain and you call it Mount Rushmore, like as if they are God's gift to the world.
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:13.760
So no, I don't agree with the Mountain Rushmore thing.
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.440
I'ma say Hall of Fame.
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:15.920
All right.
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:17.599
Okay, call it, call it what you want, Patty.
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:18.480
I'm gonna call it Hall of Fame.
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:28.800
So out of this list, I'm gonna give you Patty, I'm gonna give you Shaka, I'm gonna give you Tina, and I'm gonna give you, man, I'm gonna give you Aretha out of this list that you provided.
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:29.679
You know what I'm saying?
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:33.840
Because I could I could put some others, but out of this list that you've provided, yes.
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:35.840
So slow down for me.
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.119
You got Patty Chaka.
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:38.960
When you say Tina, you talking Tina Marie?
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:39.920
Tina Turner.
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:43.199
Because Tina Marie definitely, oh my man, she is yet.
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.639
Yeah, I thought you might be talking Tina Marie, but Tina Turner.
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:46.960
Right.
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:47.840
Out of this list.
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:48.239
Right.
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:49.039
Out of this list.
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.079
Patty, Shaka, Tina, and who was the other one?
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.360
And I said, I said, I said Aretha.
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:56.719
I said I said Tina.
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:57.199
Okay.
00:58:57.360 --> 00:58:57.760
All right.
00:58:58.400 --> 00:58:59.039
I said Patty.
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:00.000
Maybe I said Patty.
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:00.320
I don't know.
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:00.719
But anyway.
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:01.519
You got Patty.
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:02.639
No, no, I got you now.
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:03.119
I got you.
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.039
It's Patty, Shaka, Tina, and Aretha.
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:05.760
Okay.
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:06.400
Okay.
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.280
And we only got one person here with Dolly, so don't worry about that.
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.880
The next one is next one is the funky one.
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:14.000
Give me what you got, baby.
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:16.159
Aretha, Whitney, Mariah, and Patty.
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:17.039
Real quick.
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:17.440
Okay.
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:18.159
Aretha.
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:19.119
Aretha.
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:20.000
Whitney.
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:20.880
Mariah.
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.159
Mariah and Patty.
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:23.039
Mariah.
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:23.519
Okay.
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:24.960
And who was the other one?
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:26.079
Patty LaBelle.
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:27.039
Patty.
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:28.639
And I'm missing one from you.
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:29.760
Whitney four.
00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:30.960
You got Retha is one.
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:31.679
Whitney.
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:32.800
And Mariah Carey.
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:34.320
I didn't get Whitney from.
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:34.880
And Patty.
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:35.199
Yeah.
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:35.840
And Patty.
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:36.800
Okay.
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:37.440
All right.
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:38.559
So this is where we at.
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:40.159
Yeah, now Gladys needs to be on this.
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:41.280
Gladys needs to be on this.
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:44.159
Gladys could have been on the list, right?
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.159
And if you said Gladys Knight, I would give you.
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:48.000
You could have got it.
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:48.880
But I'm going to give it to you.
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:51.519
I'll give it Gladys before I give it to Missy Elliott.
00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:52.880
Yeah, no, don't question.
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:53.360
No question.
00:59:54.000 --> 01:00:02.639
I need all my commenters to go after Mar D and the funky one for saying that Miss Elliott ain't no singer.
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:04.000
She is a singer, fellas.
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:04.639
Their lips.
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:05.599
Their lips.
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:07.119
Their lips owned.
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:08.639
She is a singer, fellas.
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.519
She's not a singer that belongs among these people.
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:15.199
Hey, that's feelings.
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:15.760
That's feelings.
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:16.559
That's feelings.
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:17.199
You're going on.
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:18.480
Thank you.
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:23.840
Hey, Hog.
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:24.960
I'm not disagreeing with you.
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:26.800
I'm not disagreeing, but that's his list.
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:27.679
That's his list.
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:32.000
But trust me, Missy's influence is not as a singer.
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:36.079
She's her influence is as a rapper and a producer and what she did.
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:38.639
Those were groundbreaking.
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.639
All that was groundbreaking for what she did.
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:41.599
She sings.
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:43.119
Everybody knows she sings.
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:44.320
Hav, go for it.
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:44.719
What you got?
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:45.440
Hav, who you got?
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:45.920
Who you got?
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:47.519
I got Arita.
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:48.960
Okay.
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:54.400
I got Arita, Whitney, Shaka, Aritha, and Janet.
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:55.440
And Janet Jackson.
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:55.679
Okay.
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:56.800
Those are my four.
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:01.119
And I had a real hard time leaving my homegirl Patty the Bell off the joint.
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:02.559
And Diana Ross.
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:04.159
I had a hard time leaving them off.
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:18.320
But I felt I had to put Janet on because of all that she did coming through the uh when she was a young girl, 70s, 80s, 90s, and I seen her perform and her influence is out of this world.
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:25.440
Shaka Khan was the girl by which all these young girls, right now, when they do demos, they're doing her songs.
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.599
Like Sweet Thing and some of her other stuff, man.
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:34.400
And Whitney Houston might be the greatest singer of all time as far as voice.
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:38.639
And maybe not so much with range, but being whatever she was able to do.
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:41.599
Mariah Carey had that range, but so did Minnie Ripperton.
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:46.000
But neither one of them could hit the levels, in my opinion, that Whitney Houston could hit.
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:48.480
And Aretha was miss all everything.
01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:53.840
Aretha did jazz, Arita did country, Rita did RB, and opera.
01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:54.719
And opera.
01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:55.519
And opera.
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.920
And and Natalie Cole and Natalie Cole was there too.
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.199
I mean, I'm just trying to say we there's a lot that we yes, go for it.
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:05.119
That are honorable mentions.
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:07.679
There's a lot of honorable mentions, but I agree with you 100%.
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:10.079
Again, that's your feelings talking.
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:13.280
I think I need the commenters to please comment, please.
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:14.639
The funky one.
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:15.519
They go on a roast.
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:23.599
And this lady is a rapper, a singer, a songwriter, and a record producer.
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:28.480
Everything that you just said about Aretha Franklin is also similar to what she do.
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:31.199
So why is it that you keep saying this lady can't sing?
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:32.159
The woman can sing.
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:34.639
I never said she can sing, but she's not in the right.
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:36.400
Why are you kind of why are you taking it away?
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:37.440
That's my list.
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:39.920
No, no, that's his list, man.
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:40.480
That's your list.
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:42.800
That's your list.
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:43.679
That's your list.
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:44.559
I respect your list.
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:45.280
You got your reasons.
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:46.480
I don't respect your list.
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:48.079
So so we okay.
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:52.320
So now we gotta agree on the singers that we as a group will have.
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:53.760
Okay.
01:02:54.159 --> 01:03:01.039
So from what I see, automatically Aretha and Whitney are gonna be on this list, okay?
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:05.440
Because all of us voted for, I believe all of us voted for Aretha.
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:06.320
Aretha.
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.320
I think for Aretha.
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:09.119
No, no, no.
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:14.239
All of us voted for Whitney.
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:15.119
So Whitney is.
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:19.760
I voted for Whitney.
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:20.400
No, I'm gonna give you this.
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:21.840
I'm gonna give you this.
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:23.119
So let's break it in.
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:24.000
Let's break it down.
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.079
Aretha got three votes.
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.239
Whitney got three votes.
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:29.599
No, Whitney got three votes.
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:31.360
Did you vote for Aretha?
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:32.559
Yeah.
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:33.679
Yeah.
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:34.079
Okay.
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:35.760
Yeah, Aretha got three votes.
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.360
Aretha has three votes.
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:39.039
Whitney has three votes.
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:39.519
Okay.
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.400
I got Shaka with two votes.
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:44.559
So that pushes Shaka in.
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:45.920
I mean there's a Messi L Eagle.
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:48.079
And then I got and then I got a bunch of people with one vote.
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:49.199
Dolly with one vote.
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:50.559
Patty up on boat.
01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:51.679
No, Patty got two votes.
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:52.559
Patty got two vote.
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:53.679
Patty should be up there, yeah.
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:54.239
Yeah.
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:57.199
So Patty is the third face on the joint.
01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:57.360
Okay.
01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:58.000
Okay.
01:03:58.320 --> 01:03:58.559
Okay.
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.719
So right now we got Arita, Whitney, and Pad.
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:03.360
Okay.
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:04.960
And and then the other one is Shaka.
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:06.159
Because Shaka got two votes.
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:06.719
Beyonce.
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So that's it.
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You got Beyonce.
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I got Beyonce on there.
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She got one vote.
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She got one vote.
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Beyonce has one vote.
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That's from you.
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So as a the fuck you want, you ain't you ain't vote for Beyonce?
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Heck no.
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No.
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He didn't vote for him.
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No.
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So now I'm sorry.
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So our mountain looks like this.
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Our mountain looks like Aretha, Whitney, Chaka, and Patty.
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That's who our mountain looks like.
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Now, we don't went through all of that, and now I'm gonna come down to the lightning round as we're moving down.
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We're gonna be coming closing the show up pretty good.
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Boy, this show being a louder banner today.
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Okay.
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Who Okay.
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Just say pretty quick.
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If the mountain only had three spots, who comes off the mountain, y'all?
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And you're the four that I'm the four people that I ran off.
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Aretha, Whitney, Shaka, and Patty.
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I think I think Shaka.
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I think Shaka.
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I'm locker.
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I remove Aretha.
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I move Shaka.
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Oh my gosh, what is wrong with this?
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That's the greatest scene of all time, but okay.
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That's his opinion.
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He said Aretha gotta go.
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So say it with your chat.
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Say it with your chat.
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Who gotta go?
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:22.159
He gotta go.
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:22.880
Who gotta go?
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:23.920
Aretha gotta go.
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:24.559
Who gotta go?
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:25.360
You wrote a short shirt.
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:28.400
Aretha gotta go.
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:28.719
Okay.
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:31.840
And blue, who you say gotta go?
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:32.400
Whitney.
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Okay.
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:34.960
And me, and me and my man.
01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:38.719
And we say Shaka gotta go.
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:44.639
I didn't say that she couldn't sing, but as far as that that Hall of Fame, she knows?
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:45.039
Nah.
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.679
She's she's I love Shaka, but I don't think Shaka's on the screen.
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.800
I love Shaka too, but I think Shaka gotta come off with this group.
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:51.360
Okay.
01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:57.679
Now, which omission out of these people that we threw off will make the audience the angriest?
01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:58.639
I think Arita.
01:05:58.800 --> 01:05:59.760
I think throwing Arita off.
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:01.920
To join is gonna make people the angries.
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:02.320
Yeah.
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:04.639
Let me talk about Retha.
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.280
So so because he he put on uh Missy Elliott there.
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:11.199
Aretha was a producer, she wrote her own songs and she sang.
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:17.199
So she on the level, and she got more hits and made more money than Missy Elliott.
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:17.760
I'm just saying.
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:18.400
Yeah, yeah.
01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.159
Well, well, he knows that about Retha.
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:21.440
I think he had Aretha orders.
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:23.039
No, he threw Aretha off his joint.
01:06:23.199 --> 01:06:23.920
He threw Aretha off.
01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:34.159
Retha and And we didn't even mention that the Rolling Stone magazine listed the 500 greatest singers, male or female of all time, and Aretha came out number one.
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:36.159
This week of men and women.
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.079
He put Aretha out on the street.
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:38.800
Right.
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:39.280
Right.
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:41.760
You know, Aretha, she could cook.
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:43.119
And we all know that she's cool.
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.599
Who has Eddie's pies, so she's gonna say that.
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:46.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.440
And we know Patty can throw down too.
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:48.320
Patty could cook.
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:49.039
Okay.
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:58.320
The official, the brothers have officially given you their slash Mount Rushmore slash Hall of Fame female singer.
01:06:58.639 --> 01:06:58.880
Okay.
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:00.480
That's our mount.
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:04.079
We already know that's who it is for us.
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:09.920
That includes Missy Alley and Dolly and Parton by some, Whitney Houston and Shaka Khan by others.
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:10.480
Okay?
01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:12.159
This is our mountain.
01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.119
We already know what the audience is gonna tell us where we went.
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:22.239
Give us exactly four names in your comments, and if you list five, your ballot is gonna be disqualified.
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:27.920
So we ask you, give us your top four female singers of all time.
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.760
You know somebody's gonna put Ariana Grandi and Taylor Swift on that mall.
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:33.440
Hey, well, well, you could do that.
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.199
Is that a that's your opinion?
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:39.199
Is that a fitted hat or a snapback?
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.840
So I'm gonna get to some things now, fellas.
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:42.880
Let's wrap this up.
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:44.800
I want to wrap up this episode.
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.840
Tonight, whoo! What a night.
01:07:49.199 --> 01:08:11.760
Whether marriage secrets should remain private after divorce, whether successful athletes owe something to their communities, whether DNA testing should be mandatory at birth, and which four women belong on music's mount mush more, or like Blue said, their Hall of Fame topic, stop stars.
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Fellas, give me one sentence.
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:18.800
Which topic do you think is gonna create the biggest argument after this episode?
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:19.920
Blue.
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:21.920
What topic you think is gonna take people to do?
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:22.880
Oh, it's gonna be this DNA.
01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:24.239
It's gonna be this DNA joint.
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:25.920
It's gonna be the DNA joint.
01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:27.119
That's what I feel.
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:37.119
What you feel, what you feel is I think we're gonna have a controversy on who we think is the uh part of the four Mount Rushmore cats.
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.800
I stayed, I'm staying on Missy Elliott.
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.119
I said it, Missy Elliott.
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:47.199
She can sing, Mary can rapper, songwriter, song producer.
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:49.119
I said it, I said it.
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:50.319
You, you, you heard it.
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:56.000
Like I said, I think some people just think you do stuff just to get a raise up in them.
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:00.239
And and Vicky, big game, which one of these topics do you think is gonna raise the people up?
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:05.840
Uh it's gonna be that hat that he has on his head, because it must be super tight because the fact that he said Missy Elliott.
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:06.720
That's what it is.
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:07.760
That's okay.
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:25.119
Because I want all my commenters out there to go after the funky one for saying that Missy Elliott can't sing, ain't no singer, and she has four Grammy Awards for all her accomplishments for being a rapper, a singer, a songwriter, and a producer.
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:25.840
Go after it.
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:28.079
Give me a couple of things in the comments right there.
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:29.279
She breaks this down.
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.079
She never got a Grammy as the best singer for anything.
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:37.840
Best hip hop, best producer, no question, she's there.
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:46.319
Now she definitely was a four-time Grammy Award-winning rapper, singer, songwriter, dancer, and producer.
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:47.840
Do your research, old school.
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:48.560
Don't be jumping out.
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:49.199
Come on, man.
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:50.000
I'm cooking.
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:50.720
I'm cooking.
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:52.560
I'm cooking.
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:53.920
I don't know what she was thinking.
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.920
She don't stand up because you know about Missy William.
01:09:58.640 --> 01:09:59.760
You don't know much about her.
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:00.560
We know about her.
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:03.279
I love Missy Elliott.
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:04.159
Missy Elliott is.
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:06.000
She's the goat.
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:08.319
He is suffering from the Mandela effect right now.
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:12.319
No, you're suffering from not paying attention and reading up and doing your research.
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:13.119
She's the goat.
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.000
Give that lady, give her her flowers.
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:16.880
She's still living.
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:17.680
Give her her flowers.
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:18.319
All right, y'all.
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.600
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