Episode 601 - Interview with Dexter Taylor - from New York State Prison

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Hey, good morning, and welcome to Breakthrough Walls. I'm Ken
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Walls and I'm your host, and today I have a
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special edition of Breakthrough Walls, very unconventional. In fact, I'll
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probably turn my camera off just to save on some
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bandwidth so we can hear my guests clearly, if you
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would do me a favor. I see Cody is already
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in here and he has shared it out. Thank you, Cody.
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I appreciate that. So I have a gentleman joining us
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today from a state prison in the wonderful state of
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New York, and his name is Dexter Taylor, and he's
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going to it's going to tell his story. So let
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me go ahead and just bring Dexter up the stage.
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There is a delay, by the way, everybody, so you
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will hear a delay between when I say something in
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Dexter answers. It's just the way it is. So please
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share this out everywhere far and wide. Dexter, welcome to
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the show.
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Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Great to be with you.
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Yeah, man, it's great to have you here. I was
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on another show with you with Kay Daily, and I said, geez, man,
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let's get you on my show and tell everybody your
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your story. I have a pretty big audience, so I
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want to I want to start with you, tell everybody
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a little bit about who you are, like where you
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were born and raised. It sounds like you've got a
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deep southern South Texas accent going on there.
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No, not at all. Uh. Yeah, I was. I born
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in in New York City and in the Boro of Queen, uh.
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Born to working class immigrants. My dad was a carpenter
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un and comfort and my mother a registered nurse. They're
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both retired up. And you know, it was always a
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kind of nerdy kid when I was. I was the
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kid who has always taken this towards apart and was
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kind of, you know, making the stuff with it. You know,
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always nerdy, always dig into math and science, always with
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my head in the book at all to uh many
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years later, after I'd gone away to school, well, you know,
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I went to Staving in high school, having to JOHNS. Hopkins.
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Dropped out after a year or so and bounced around
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Baltimore City for a while until I got into computers
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and I taught myself how to write code C plus
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my first language, taught myself how to write PEO plus
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US and got my first job in the industry, moved
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back to New York in nineteen ninety four, so a
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thirty somehi year career in the software development industry. And
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I've always been I've always been a kind of a
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shade tree mechanic in my adult life. You know, you know,
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builth of our furniture, you know, electrical wiring, like plumbing,
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you know all the rest of that stuff. I've built
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three recording studios, the third of which is still operational
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in UH And the backstort of all this is that,
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you know, I was lifelong I wouldn't play lifelong Democrats.
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I never had that much use for the Democratic Party.
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But I was definitely lifelong lefty slash kind of an
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angry young progressive until until I started leaving the left.
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And that was that's also we can dig into in
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any case. By the time I got into gunsmith and
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I had already been doing a conservative politics online as
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carbon Mic for a few years. In twenty twenty, I
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got into gunsmithing. I thought it was the coolest thing
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I had ever seen, as the guys online buying legal
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parts and who had bought legal parts, that is, and
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who were machining them to completion eighty percent receivers machine
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in the completion and building the actual firearms that I
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was hooked. So I went started doing the same thing,
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bought legal eighty percent and other parts, machined them to
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completion in my basement machine shop, because of course I
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had a machine shop in my basement, right.
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Like, who doesn't have that right.
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Exactly, that basic well, that basic American man equipment in
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they have that right. So so so yeah, man, I
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built five or six block style pistols and eight very
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sexy AI rifles and and all that time, you know,
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I already had a clean criminal record, never even trouble
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with the law. UH, as a licensed amateur radio operator.
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I went and passed the background check to become a
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member in good standing of my local gun range, west
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Side Rifle and Pistol Range in Manhattan. And you know
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my plan was to uh to actually build this into
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a career, right because I saw right away that you know,
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I could. It's something where I could take my love
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of software and signals processing and set kits and what
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have you and kind of married that to uh to
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my love of weapon sites. Anyway, in twenty twenty two,
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my house was rated I joined in PDATF SAT's force. Basically,
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walk team busted my door down, took all my stuff
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and locked me up.
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Uh.
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My parents bailed me out of jail, out of Riker's Island.
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They had to put their house up because bail reform
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didn't apply to someone with a coan criminal record. We
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had never heard anybody, so they had to. My bill
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was almost a quarter a million dollars.
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Yeah, my bari was almost a quarter million, four million dollars,
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was your veil?
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No, no, no, that's sorry, almost a quarter of a million dollars.
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A quarter of a million.
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I was like, what in the world.
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Yeah no, yeah, yeah, it's almost a quarter million dollars.
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My parents had to their house up to get me out,
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and you know, we gotta, thank God to get a
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good legal team. Uh. And we started fighting very early on.
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I told my legal team I wasn't going to take
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any play deals. Uh and I didn't. But yeah, the
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the uh, you know, after that, we had a long
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drawn out free trial process, and you know, the trial
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was more or less uh as we knew going in,
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the trial was more or less rigged, and so we lost,
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and the deference for me to ten years in Britain.
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And you know I happened, by the way, after I
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was convicted, after the jury came back to them with
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the guilty verdon, there was no Okay, you're out on
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bail until sentencing. There was you'll be remanded immediately into
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custody because again even though I have a clean from
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the record, no trouble with the law, apparently I'm I'm
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a fight risk risk of from the safety right because
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I've lived in New York my whole life, and wow,
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you know the weapons ever left my health right exactly.
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So you know this this to give you some idea
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of the kind of the law politics behind what actually
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happened in my trial. It was obviously very political. The
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Brooklyn DA had gone uh in front of hot mics
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and made for judicial statements long before my trial began, right,
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so that that's what we were doing. In any case, Uh,
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we of course continued fighting and I continue fighting to
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this day, meaning my legal team and my kind of
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trustee band of conservatives in social on social media entering
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the fight because we think it's an important fight. We
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think this is not an educase, right, This is not
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even close to being an educase. It's not a complicated
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matter like at all?
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Right, right, very very simple.
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Right, it wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't arrested in my car. Right.
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I wasn't walking down you know, for a second street
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with my with my ar slung. Right. I wasn't telling
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at Howard's Top in Central Park. Right, I was in
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my home. And the question, in my opinion, the question before,
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especially as conservatives, but certainly as Americans, is is this,
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does the Second Amendments stay bar the right to keeping
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their arms in your own house?
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I go all, yeah, this never in trouble.
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Well, so so let's let's back up just a little bit,
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and yes, let's let's, you know, talk about you. Were
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you gainfully employed at the time of the raid. Were
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you working somewhere?
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Were you what were you doing?
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Oh yeah, oh yes, oh yeah, So I was working
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for a startup company. Will refrain refrain from naming them
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for now, but they were very cool startup. They were
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trying to do for the freight rail industry. What what
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we take for granted with carriers like FedEx, and just
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to put all the information uh you know, uh uh
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uh tracking and stuff like that on the one pane
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of glass for dispatchers and work shipping managers or so
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on and so forth, so that you know, so that
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you could go and you could open up an app
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on on your on your desktop and be like, Okay,
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where is my two uh car loads of Canadian spruce
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right now?
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Right?
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And the railroads and actually quietly and if they've quietly
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been been installing all these telemetry and electronics over the years,
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but no one before this company, no one was ever
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trying to put all that information on one pane of glass.
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So I was their senior data engineer, and I basically
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rebuilt their technical infrastructure, rebuilt, redesigned and rebuilt their databases
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and the road all the stain of crunch all that
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incoming information, all the telemetry and other data from the
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different railroads so that our applications and analytics guys couldn't
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like take it, and and for the customers.
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So I.
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Love that.
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I think that, Yeah, I can, I can. You're geeking
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out on me here.
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I'm kidding, no, So so I mean, you know, dude,
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if I were, if I were in law enforcement on
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a federal or state level, you know, one of the
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first people I would I would profile would be a
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senior data engineer.
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That would be the first first person. I like, what
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the heck, man, I'm kidding of tours? Good Lord have mercy.
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So so so here here you are living your life.
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You're you're obviously a geek, and I love that. I've been.
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I've been coding since I was eleven years old, so
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I totally get it. But so you you're just you're
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just like doing your thing, living your life. You have
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a family, right, you have. You have a wife and kids.
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I'm divorced to have a I have a daughter and
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the next wife and thank god, we're all good terms.
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You know, my wife, Max wife, you know, has brought
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my kid up to see me, you know, while I
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was a Rikers and while I was in upstate, and
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me and my daughter and I are very close. And
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you've always been, I've been, I've been, you know, a
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continuous kind of presence in her life. Uh wow, you know,
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even since I broke up with with her mom. So yeah,
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we're all still close.
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So you you have, I mean, you're just living in life.
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Your your your your scene, shop machine shop in your basement.
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By the way, everybody watching, he's only got a dexter
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has a thirty minute window then he has to hang
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up and call back in and I'll just stay on
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here and entertain you while that happens. But but you know,
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so so talk about the you you said you were
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making these these? Can you hear me? Okay? Can can
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you still hear me?
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Yeah?
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I can't.
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Can you hear me? Now? Are you there? Check? Check?
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Check?
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Now now I can hear now, I can hear me.
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Yeah, I hear you.
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I hear you check okay? Yeah?
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You audio went out for like so.
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Yeah, I have no idea what happened there? Could can
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everybody else hear me? Or did it go out for everybody?
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Or was it just for Dexter? Somebody let me know
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in the comments if you would. So, so you have
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you decided you were going to start making these firearms?
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Did it ever occur to you though when you were
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making them that like, wow, maybe this is against the
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law to do. I mean, did that did that thought
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ever occur to you? It doesn't sound like it did.
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Absolutely not. No.
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Not.
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That's why went by the way, That's why I bought
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all my weapons, uh not weapons, weapons parts, all my receivers,
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my barrels, springs, so on, and so forth. I bought
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those all online legally under my own name, ship directed
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in my house. I even put them all on the
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same credit card to make my book keeping simpler. It
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never occurred to me in a million years that that
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was illegal. Why would it be. I'm not a prohibited person,
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I'm not carrying weapons in the streets, and I and look,
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I have some issues by the way, with New York's
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permitting regime, you know, like like my near of our
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conservative brether I prefer a shallish you or even a
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constitution challenge you permitting or even a constitutional carrier regime
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to what we have in New York, which is not
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in those things obviously, right. But but it never occurred
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to me in a million years that that, again, being
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a non prohibited person, right, being someone who's never doesn't
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have a seminal records, it never occurs to me that
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building fires in your house privately was illegal. Why why
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would it be? It is a fund But to me,
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it doesn't get any more fundamental than that, like the
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right to keep them there arm in your house privately quietly, you.
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Know, right?
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So no, absolutely not.
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guess the argument could be made that they're there are
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other things that you can't have in the privacy of
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your home right, And I'm not I'm just being a
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little bit of the devil's advocate. I totally support everything
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about me. I think you know that. But there, you know,
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there are other things that are definitely a crime to
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have in your house. But I mean, the the the
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right to keep in bare arms is covered by the
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US Constitution, and I believe they call that at the
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Second Amendment.
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That's right.
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It's people covered by the New York State Constitution. Although
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they may have the progressives that we've allowed to run
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our states and cities into the ground. They have may
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have invented that to within an inch of its life,
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but it is covered, according to my friends outside and
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done some research for me, by even the New York
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State Constitution. Yes, I mean, yes, you're quite right. For example,
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like having you know, uh, deciding that you want to
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collect explosives is going to be a problem unless you
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have a special type of f F called SLT Specialized
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Occupational Taxpayer Certificate. Here's the here's the funny thing. I mean,
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speaking of speaking of the sets, what was notable is
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that member. When I was rated was in April, I
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think earlier April fifth, I believe, twenty twenty two. It
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was a dual NYPD ATS team.
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The ATF was there simply because they had driven the
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starch warrant that that's what the ATF was doing in
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in the in the days of the Bide administration, spying
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our American citizens and then turning that information over to
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local police jurisdictions. Now, the ATF came into my house,
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looked around, and they were like, okay, guys, see if
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and we never made ts again. So there are no
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federal charges here. That's interesting, isn't it right. It's like no,
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all the I had a wow, Right, the at F
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had no interest in the case. None that I remember.
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I remember clear's days, the two ATF pages. I remember
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their windbreakers and it came in, looked around like okay, guys,
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all right, and.
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And they and that was it. They left and they left.
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The at F left your house, Yes.
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And they left, Yes, that was it. That was left
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my house and left our lives, never be heard from again.
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And and look near mind you, this was in the
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days of the Biden administration where the at F was
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was jumping out on all kinds of stuff. Right, so
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you know trivia Laurno wis right. So if I had
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been doing something that that was out of pocket with
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respect to federal law, you know, right, you know, they
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would have been on me like stupid, on Kamala Harris.
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But the fact is that they didn't know suchpen they
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were gone, right. So so so yeah, uh, this was
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this is New York state all the way. This is
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New York state state.
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So so okay, so you had federal agents coming in
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and looking around, seeing everything, and they were like, yeah,
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we we don't we don't see a problem here. We're
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we're out and and and the State of New York
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decided otherwise.
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Well, yeah, it was a New York for the beginning
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because remember all the all the fens we were there
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to do was to drive the search part. They've been
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doing that. I don't know if they've continued under Trump,
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but they've been They were doing that under Biden. They
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were basically going around to credit card companies and to
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parts manufacturers who sell online and saying, we want to
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see who's doing business with you want to see your
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customer lists and so on and so forth, and then
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turning that information over to UH Second Amendment hostile jurisdictions
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like New York State. That's that, that was the thing.
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In fact, in fact, the nm IPD had a special department,
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has a special department UH dedicated to liaising with ATF.
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So this is a thing. It's a process, right they
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you know? Yeah?
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Wow, I mean so holy crap, man, I don't like
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this this And here you are. How how long have
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you been incarcerated? Now?
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A little bit more than a year? Because my trial
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I was and I was not on bail during my
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trial out during the free trial obviously during the trial,
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and then the trial took about a month I'll call
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it end of April or thereabouts when I when the
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trial came to a close. And then again immediately after
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the immediately after the jury verdict, I was taking in
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the custody went to kass Islands. And then that's that.
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I never never breathed free air from from that moment
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until today. So it's been a little more than a year.
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And this is okay, So so so hold on, hold on,
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tell me tell me this. At least you were violating
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a law. Maybe you were taking your your homemade firearms
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and you were going outside on the rooftop or something
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and firing them into the air randomly, eendagering the lives
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of your fellow humans, right, Is that what you were doing?
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Is that what they got you on?
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No. No, none of my weapons ever left my house ever,
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and the weapons I built ever left my hands. Nor
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was I advertising weapons. I wasn't talking about weapons. I
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wasn't uh taking you can you can go to my
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Instagram right now. My Instagram idea is foundation Tech. I
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wasn't taking pictures and posting them. I wasn't texting them.
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I wasn't talking to anyone online or in other capacity
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about uh about weapons or about you know, financial transactions.
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I wasn't transferring weapons. I had no intention of transfer there.
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These were my weapons that made them for me. And
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by the way, New York State knows this. New York
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State knows this because, uh, they seized my devices, they
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seized my phone, they seized my computer. They they uh
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and they subpeated by email records, right, so they know
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that this wasn't someone who was who was talking about
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who was intending to do business with firearms, you know,
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who wasn't uh talking any crazy stuff about about you know,
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jumping out kinetically against the government. Nothing like that. Nothing
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like that. And none of my weapons had even been fired.
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The first time any of my weapons had been fired
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was after my arrest, when the police forensics team fired
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them in the test.
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Tank because they wanted to see if they were They
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were checking to see if they.
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Wow, if they're functional.
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That's correct, right, because they have a functional weapons. It
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gets crazier, by the way, it gets crazier the the
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the first prosecutor that was assigned for a case, the
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first assistant DA said to my lawyer in writing that quote,
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if mister Taylor had applied for a permit, he would
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have passed the good moral character test. So please don't
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take my word for it that I was understanding. It
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isn't take the prosecutor's word for it, right, Oh oh yeah,
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that was yeah, that's right.
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So they get they and you you were you said
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you were. You were given ten years?
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Is that what you said, yes, sir, yeah.
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For being such a violent, violent criminal.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Well, you know, like I said, the fix was
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in because not long after I've been in tighted you know,
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Brooklyn DA, like I said, came out and made a
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prejudicial statement about my case in public. He said, we're
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going to make an example of textor Taylor. Wow, this
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is before, this is before my trial even began. Right,
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so he knew what the he knew what the what
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the plan was exactly?
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This this, this sounds like it doesn't sound like you're
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living in the US. This sounds like more like the
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UK maybe, or or or something.
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All work?
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Oh my god? Man? Okay, so yeah, so you lord man,
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So so you you went through and how long was
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the trial? Again it was a jury trial, right, how
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long was the trial? Yeah, go ahead and call back in.
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I'll wait for sure. This this is unbelievable. I want
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to get a lot of attention to this. Everybody share
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this out and Dexter will will join us here in
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a minute. I do have a video that I want
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to play, but I'll I'll wait. Yeah, no no problem, man,
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just call back in.
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All right.
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So I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm going to remove him
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for a minute and he will. He will be back
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in a minute. Let's see. Let's see. Okay, all right,
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So do me a favor and please share this out.
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This is so important for people to hear this. This
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is a I don't care what side of the aisle
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you're on. It really doesn't matter to me. Like I
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don't care, you know when when you have I mean, look,
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there are problems that we have in this country. We're
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all aware of them. I muted your microphone there, and
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there's music playing or something. You'll have to unmute when
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you bring Dexter back on. But so so you know,
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we have problems in this country, and the problems obviously
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are legitimate, but there are people walking free that have
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that have caused harm to other human beings, like literally
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caused harm. And here we have Dexter, who's just a
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h a geek. He's just an engineer, and I'm a
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geek too, so I'm allowed to say that. But you know,
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like and and he's just doing something for fun. He's
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never even had a a any kind of criminal record, nothing,
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and and he's being treated like he's some kind of
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a violent thug. What is going on? What country here?
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My wife just said it. What what country are we
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living in? I mean, this is insane. Kilburn says, Oh, now,
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what what's that mean? H A, what's that mean?
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Oh?
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Oh now, h h W I know what the WTF
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stands for Cody's says, it doesn't matter if you're a
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two A advocate. This can happen to any of your
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rights and that is one hundred percent the truth. If
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it can happen to Dexter, who's an upstanding citizen. By
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the way, I don't know if Dexter's back on yet
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or not. Let me request that they unmute. He's got
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a friend. Okay, are you back?
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Yes?
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Okay? So this is crazy. Man like you here, you're
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being treated like you're some kind of a violent at
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least okay. Did they put you in some kind of
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a nice white collar prison.
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No, this is as it's a class A maxim s
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curio facility. You remember, remember in New York State. In
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New York State, right, merely possessing a firearm in your
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house without having asked the state for permission to keeping
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their arms in your house, merely doing that is a
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violent selony.
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What what?
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Yes? Yes, having having a firearm without asking to state
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for permission is a violent selling. It's worse than that,
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according to New York State, I had loaded firearms in
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my house. And here's the thing, Uh, my lawyer explained
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to me when he came to visit me in Wrikers,
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you know, shortly after my arrest. Then in New York State,
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if you let's say you have a block, you've got
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a glock on the table, and you've got you know,
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the mags been the magazine's been been dumped out, and
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there's nothing up the pipe. If you have compatible ammunition,
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let's stay sitting on the table. According to New York State,
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that firearm is loaded. You see, according to New York State,
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like having compatible ammunition near a weapon means the weapons loaded.
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Okay, So question, this is kind of an obvious question.
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How how how is it that a state can override
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what our US constitution says?
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Uh, that's a very good question. It's because they pay
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no political price for doing it. You see. The problem
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is that you can't, like an ordinary citizen, can't just
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take New York State to court for right in the
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constitution because you wouldn't have standing. Right Wow, because I'm
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in this situation, I'm in right now, I have standing
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uh to say a you know, my Secondmendment right to
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being violated. But that that that presupposed that I'm already
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in trouble, already in prison. In other words, already being
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materially harmed by those unconstitutional laws.
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So that's that.
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And by the lay, I'd just like to correct something
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you said. You said that I was treated like a
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violent criminal. Well that's not quite true, because you see,
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New York has a very how can I put this,
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New York State has a very soft and gentle way
486
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:37.559
with violent criminals. You know, they like to I mean,
487
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I remember we were I was talking with some of
488
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:45.480
my people about you know, cases that that were in
489
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:50.200
the news around the time of my trouble. There was
490
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.960
one incident where a couple of people, uh jumped to
491
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.680
New York City police officer and beat the hell out
492
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of him.
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I remember, I remember, and yeah, there you go.
494
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And what happened to those guys? I think one of
495
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:09.359
them was released without bail, Yeah, yeah, right, released without bailing.
496
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.720
Then he was in the wind. I don't know what
497
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.400
they happened to the other one, but you know, you
498
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.039
get the idea. Uh, there was a case. There's a
499
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.960
case where an adjunct professor at Hunter College chased the
500
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.000
cameraman down the street in the Bronx somewhere with a
501
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.599
deadly weapon. Chased him down the street with a machete.
502
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.400
This is also called on camera traps is into the
503
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:34.079
police precinct, trace is out the same day, so you know,
504
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and then of course we don't know about the If
505
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.640
you've heard the testimony that the Governor of New York
506
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gave before Congress, uh, you know that there have been
507
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.000
a few incidents where the violent criminals who happened not
508
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:57.480
to have a legal immigration status were We're released, people
509
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.839
of the history of violence were released to commit other
510
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.559
and in some cases take people's lives, right, So you know,
511
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so so yeah, they didn't. They didn't like a violent
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00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.640
If I've been a violent criminal, amount of expected.
513
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.960
Right, you'd be a free man today. Like I don't,
514
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:25.160
you know, I find it, In fact, I find this
515
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:33.319
so appalling and vile that it's leaving me with blank
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00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.359
Like I don't even know what to ask you. It's insane, Like,
517
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.559
how the hell is this happening in our country? How
518
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.279
is this happening in the United States of America? And
519
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:48.279
and we have an upstanding citizen, got your you're the
520
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:53.519
freaking senior data analyst for a railroad company or whatever
521
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:58.200
it was called. And and and you're you're you're incarcerated
522
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.880
for making firearms that never even left your house.
523
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:08.280
That's crazy, correct, correct, and fired.
524
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.679
Right exactly. Well, here's I can tell you how it happens.
525
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.840
I can tell you exactly how this kind of thing happens.
526
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:22.199
This is what happens when you allow liberals and progressives
527
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.679
to have their way. I mean, I'm just being honest.
528
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:31.079
That's what happens. Okay. You know we have you know,
529
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.559
all across our country. You know when people when people
530
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.800
talk about crime stats, for example, like how you know
531
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.239
America is a terrible place because of all these guns,
532
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.360
and the guns are the problem is the guns, and
533
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.559
that you know, most of the most of the crimes
534
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.559
that are committed with firearms are committed in the places
535
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.599
that have the toughest gun laws, like New York, like Baltimore, Maryland,
536
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.960
like Washington, DC, like Chicago, like East Saint Louis.
537
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:56.559
Right.
538
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:00.159
I mean, that's that's what we're looking at. So this
539
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.559
is this is par for the course, right, for liberals
540
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.280
and progressives, for the democrants, but for the modern were
541
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:11.519
not even modern, the Democratic Party, right, you know, they're
542
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:15.199
gonna great problem and then and then they're gonna they're
543
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.400
gonna say, yeah, well, we don't have the solutions with
544
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.920
this problem is created and the solution is no solution.
545
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.800
They're going to insist that, well, it's not it's not
546
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:25.599
working because we have to do it more, we have
547
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.679
to do it harder. So you know, you, you, you
548
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.280
for you, you, you've taken away people's you you you
549
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.840
refuse to recognize people's sacred right to armed self defense.
550
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.760
And when that doesn't make a event in crime, because surprise, surprise,
551
00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:46.079
criminals don't care what laws. You right, right, you do
552
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.639
it more, you add, we'll say, oh, yeah, there's a
553
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:50.760
minimum sentence for this, because if you have a gun,
554
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.320
it's gonna get a minimum sentence. And they've given up
555
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:58.400
on any idea of actually fighting crime. No, we're just
556
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.039
gonna fight these instruments, right, We're just gonna like these
557
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.360
weapons because the weapons are a problem. Like, No, it's
558
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.639
people running around hurting people with weapons, that's the problem.
559
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:15.480
I agree, I agree. I have a actually right next
560
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.760
to me on my desk, I have a handmade knife
561
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.920
that a friend of mine is. He's a he makes knives.
562
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.880
He he just loves making them, and and and it's
563
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:32.519
a gorgeous, gorgeous piece that he actually gifted me and
564
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.800
you know, it's the sharpest knife I've ever owned ever,
565
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.239
and and it could certainly cause harm to people, but
566
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.159
that would be like like I just I'm I'm just
567
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.840
sitting here going what in the actual what is going on?
568
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.079
Like what my wife is on here watching? And thank
569
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.199
you babe for sharing this out. But you know, like
570
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.840
why does anybody live there? And and I listen, we
571
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.239
talked about this before, you know, I said, I you
572
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.719
were you were defending New York City and rightfully, so
573
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.920
you're from there. I got a whole story about my
574
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:18.079
one time that I drove into Manhattan and oh my god,
575
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:23.159
but we'll talk about that later. But why does anybody
576
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:29.880
even stay in New York with with with it's literally communism?
577
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.519
This is crazy.
578
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.280
Well, I mean, look, you know, our families are here,
579
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.639
our lives are here. I mean that's the thing. I
580
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.360
built my career in New York City. I built my
581
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.320
career in New York And I went from being I
582
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.840
went from being a broke college dropout right to being
583
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:49.159
to being a person with with mad skill sets you know,
584
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.800
who can who can go to different companies and and
585
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.880
and name his price. You know you mentioned working, Yeah,
586
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.159
I was working I was working for the start a
587
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.480
company you know, when I got when I got raided. Uh,
588
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.960
they fired me maybe two to three weeks after I
589
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:12.199
got indicted, you know. But uh before I before I,
590
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.320
before the end of my trial, I had actually received
591
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.480
another job off because of course, you know, my legal
592
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:21.639
spensis were mounting. I had a gift them go up already,
593
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.559
but I wanted to be able. I wanted to work
594
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.480
so that I could at least make some money, uh
595
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.599
while the trial was to kind of defray some of
596
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.960
that cost. And I actually got a job off. I
597
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.159
got a job off from from a company and well
598
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:39.920
i'll name them. They're called Cineverse s y M. Cineverse. Yeah.
599
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.960
I interviewed their senior data person and they had a
600
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:46.440
their data department, and she was impressed with my code.
601
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.360
I took her on a tour of the tools I
602
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:53.199
had written, you know, my software development philosophy. She saw
603
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.599
some of the training videos I'd made for data engineers
604
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.440
on YouTube, and uh, yeah, they they they may be
605
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.639
an offer. But then of course they had to send
606
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.000
that offer because when they did a criminal background check,
607
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.039
they found I had an active case, namely this one.
608
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:12.639
Right wow, So so yeah, So that's the other thing.
609
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:14.880
You know, I'm an able bodied man, I have skills,
610
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.840
I can work. I can make a lot of money,
611
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.840
you know what software developers can make. Seeing the software
612
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.599
developers can make. But as it is now, my whole
613
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.360
New Yorkers right are paying for my room and board.
614
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:31.000
That's disgusting. What why are my fellow New Yorkers paying
615
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.760
for my room and board because I insisted. But I
616
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.800
have a right to something that I infect you have
617
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:37.239
a right to.
618
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.639
So so so let's let me ask you this before
619
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:45.800
before you got raided and and and charge with all
620
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.199
of this, did did these gun laws that you're talking about,
621
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:55.159
the you know you were saying talking about having ammunition
622
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:01.480
and the different levels of criminality? I guess did those
623
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.920
exist prior to your case? And were you aware of
624
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.559
any of them?
625
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:10.559
I wasn't aware. I wasn't aware that. I mean, I
626
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.840
was where that New York had strict gun laws, but
627
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.800
I thought those applied to people who were carrying guns around.
628
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:18.639
In other words, you know, if you if you're walking
629
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.400
around and and and the police stopped for some reason,
630
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.960
and you know, they put him against the law, and
631
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:25.719
they frisk you, and they find a firearm. You know,
632
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:27.119
you were in trouble in let's you have a permit.
633
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.360
I knew that, and of course I knew that, and
634
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.199
of course I knew that prohibited people, right, you know
635
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:39.320
that is felons, right, warrant about to have firearms. Right.
636
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.159
But again, the idea that that you were automatically a
637
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:49.920
felon simply because you manufactured weapons in your house, so
638
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.360
with no prior criminal record, that I just I had
639
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:53.920
no idea.
640
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.280
It was news to me, and you were just making
641
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:03.480
them for for far because you're a geek. Sorry, but
642
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.000
I'm again I said earlier, I'm a geek too, so
643
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.079
I'm allowed to say that.
644
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.280
So well, to the pir wasn't just for fun?
645
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.400
I mean I again once, I I.
646
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.519
Mean, it's we should talk a little bit about this.
647
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.119
You know. Once I started making h ars, I became
648
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:25.440
fascinated with the engineering problems inherent in UH making gas
649
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.119
operated semi automatic rifles. So of course I was, I was,
650
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.480
I was inhaling all these videos on YouTube, right, but
651
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:37.599
guys making their own weapons, and you starting to understand
652
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.320
the kinds of uh the kinds of failure modes that
653
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.199
are possible with ars, right, you know, you're getting both bounce,
654
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.559
you're undergas, you're overgassed. Uh, you know you got bailly
655
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:51.440
to feed, failre to reject, so on and so forth.
656
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.840
And I started, I started, you know, on paper, kind
657
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:01.679
of prototyping. Uh, you're ference systems to kind of improve
658
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:03.679
the state of the art of weapons design.
659
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:04.679
Right.
660
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:09.280
So I came up with a theoretical framework for analyzing
661
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.039
gas operated sem autos as as circuits, that's mass flovel circuits.
662
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:22.760
I called this sickly energy flow. I prototyped a system
663
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:28.079
for registering shot reports. I'm busy on busy firing ranges,
664
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:32.480
using wearable electronics, you know, dirt keep electronics and software.
665
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.840
I called that OSIRIS Open Shot Registration System. I was
666
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:44.000
developing a design and excuse me, a system for dry
667
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.679
fire training, a more realistic dry fire training system. I
668
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:51.400
called that Drift three sixty. I was prototyping, or I
669
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.119
should say developing, because I hadn't built anything yet. Developing
670
00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.159
a system for measuring bound residents electronically instead of having
671
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.480
to use a very expensive high speed camera. Called that
672
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:09.960
ember Electronic Measurement of Bower Residents. And I sorted designing
673
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:18.239
a system for UH for for biometrics for actually analyzing
674
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:20.400
what a shooter is doing with theirs or her body
675
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.719
while they're you know, taking a weapon from retention to
676
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.719
pressing out. Then they gave wearable sensors underneath your clothes, uh,
677
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.480
where the data is crunched by software, so you can
678
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.159
surface the things that a firearm instructor who want to
679
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:40.000
see and correct. And I call that best biometrics enhanced
680
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.119
shooter training. So I had a whole I had a
681
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:44.840
whole plan in mind. I mean it was it was
682
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.199
enormous fun making these weapons, but I also had a
683
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.320
plan to kind of get my f FL. That's why
684
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.760
I signed up for Rocket FFL. Before I got raided.
685
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.239
I was learning about the different kinds of FFL and
686
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.119
what was necessary because my plan was to buy a
687
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.519
piece of land in New Hampshire somewhere.
688
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:02.480
Uh.
689
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.880
You know, New Hampshire has special significance uh to me
690
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.320
because my wife their famili used to have a house.
691
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:12.800
Then I wanted to buy people land and and set
692
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.280
up my gun lab and get my FFL and start
693
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.960
doing the road show, start actually uh trying to develop
694
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:25.679
products for uh the military and the police. I've been
695
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.360
inspired by people like Bill Guison who got his first
696
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.360
contract building triggers for the US Army Shop shooting team.
697
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.320
I thought that is the most thing I'd ever heard,
698
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.920
you know, And he didn't. It's not like Bill had
699
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.800
to go to Washington and go like he literally met
700
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.920
this mit A soldier at a shooting event and showed
701
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.280
this soldier the trigger he had if they'd made for
702
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:49.840
his own weapon. The soldiers like, hey, do you want
703
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.360
to come to dark trailer and talk to my commanding officer.
704
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.840
Next thing, you know, Bill Geisley's in business with the
705
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.199
US military. I thought that was mad cool.
706
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.800
You know, so you're you're the I mean again, the
707
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.599
the I want to talk about, you know, the the
708
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:10.280
because the importance of intention is a real thing. And
709
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:14.679
and you your intentions were, I just want to help
710
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:21.039
military and police and get better, be better at their jobs,
711
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.840
at what they're doing. And and you know, so there
712
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:33.239
was absolutely no they found no nefarious activity in any way, right,
713
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.159
Like you said, they went through everything.
714
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.760
That's correct. Well, that's correct, and I should add I
715
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.320
should add by the way that you know, you're usually
716
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.800
hear that some some guy napped the weapons in his
717
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.400
house or whatever. It's like, oh, he's got a manifesto. Well,
718
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.440
I actually have a manifesto, you know, because remember I've
719
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.559
been doing conservative uh political commentary online for years at
720
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.119
that point, and uh so I did have a manifesto.
721
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.000
Called the Foundationist Manifesto.
722
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.480
Because I'd come up with a conservative school spot called
723
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:09.800
Foundationism after I left the left. And so I have
724
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a very simple one point manifesto. See deeply, listen closely,
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reason honestly, speak clearly, act, bravely, deny the self, defend
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the individual, respect tradition, face the present, cultivate the future.
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00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:31.039
That's my area manifesto. Right. You can go on YouTube.
728
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:32.679
You can look at the videos I was making as
729
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.800
carbon Mike. You can look at the interviews I was doing.
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00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.159
I mean, you know what I'm saying, like, so, yeah,
731
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.480
this wasn't You could, as I said to people before,
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you could you could give the New York authorities grace
733
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and say, well, when they first heard about this thing,
734
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they didn't know who this guy that tailor was. Maybe
735
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.800
he's dangerous, maybe he's whatever. Okay, so we got to
736
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.360
push the response really hard, okay, grant, so the slot
737
00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:02.519
team comes in hard. Okay, fine, but shortly after that
738
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.000
they had to know once they seized my devices broke
739
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once they competed in my email records.
740
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Do you know what when they.
741
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.800
Checked my phone? Once they checked you know they have
742
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.159
to know. No, Hey, hang on a second, this guy
743
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.159
is not a problem from being clean in terms of
744
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:24.920
criminal record. He is not a problems specific order.
745
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:30.679
Well, it's it's it's it's unreal, man, I'm I'm just
746
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.960
sitting here going wait a minute. The US Constitution is
747
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.440
in place for a reason. Now, I understand that the
748
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.760
states have have authority to do certain things, and I
749
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.639
don't know that they have the authority though, to impinge
750
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.800
on the US and say, well, you know, yes, the
751
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:55.280
Constitution applies to everything except for this one area. That
752
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:57.559
doesn't make sense to me. And I'm not a lawyer,
753
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.000
but the logically it makes no sense.
754
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.760
Yes, I can tell you that they don't. They don't
755
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.039
have the right to to do to do those things.
756
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:11.079
The the the the Second Amendment is a civil right. Well,
757
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:13.920
I should say it protects.
758
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A civil rights.
759
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Remember the second moment that the Bill of Rights doesn't
760
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give us any rights. The Bill of Rights starts with
761
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.920
the assumption that we have these rights, that these rights
762
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.960
canheer to us as human beings. And it's simple prohibit
763
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government for from infringing lumbers. But okay, now you know, uh,
764
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:34.079
these are civil rights, right, and uh, the states have
765
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.320
a right, as you said, to make to make laws,
766
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.920
to make laws about about firearms even but they don't
767
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.559
have the right to violate the Constitution. They do not, Okay.
768
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.639
And by the way, the the the reasons to well,
769
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.039
the reasons the Supreme Court decision that was that was
770
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.320
handed down in Bruin and the Brewing case made it
771
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.440
very clear that uh that that now the tests for
772
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the constitutionality of gun laws or state gun laws is
773
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.599
very simple. Right, there's no more oh we get than
774
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.840
we get to violate the Second Amendment because we have
775
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.360
a crime problem. Know, that's the separate matter, right, It's
776
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.800
that it's that you have to look at the plain
777
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:23.119
text of the Second Amendment and historical tradition. Now, the
778
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.280
plane text is very plain and in this country, we
779
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.599
simply do not have a historical record of saying that
780
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.000
you are a criminal because you're making weapons in your house.
781
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.039
The fact is that from the beginning, from the start
782
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of this republic, from even before the inception of this republic, right,
783
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.920
most American firearms were made in American homes, right right, right,
784
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so right, So so this is again, this is this
785
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.840
is a political matter, and again, how can this happen?
786
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.920
This is what happens when when we see the ground
787
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.800
to liberals and progressive and lawless democrats. What happened when
788
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.519
we say, oh, the cities left. Let the democrats have
789
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the cities.
790
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Hold on, hold on everywhere.
791
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Hold on, I I I gotta, I gotta back you
792
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up on this for a minute, because you know, I
793
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believe that it's written somewhere in the policies that if
794
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you are a black man, you're not allowed to say
795
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things like that.
796
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Sorry, I forgot, he said, I forgot.
797
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Sorry, I was just I was just you know, if
798
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I can hit a well. But here's the good news, brother,
799
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here's the good news. Is the good news. Like I,
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I didn't vote for Joe Biden. So I get that means.
801
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That's awesome. Oh my god. So so I I you know,
802
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I have I have a friend that has a huge
803
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AX account, Zeke Arkham that he's actually in law enforcement
804
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:24.559
in New York and he's got a huge following on X.
805
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.519
I'll have to I'm gonna have to reach out to
806
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him and see see see if he has any thoughts
807
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.280
or ideas. But he's been in law enforcement a long
808
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.760
time and he's been on my show. As a matter
809
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of fact, he's a great guy. I'm gonna I'm gonna
810
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connect you guys. But so so so all right, I'm
811
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I'm like, my my brain is mushed over this. I'm
812
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so pissed off actually for you. Like I I just
813
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.320
and and Cody and I were talking. I said, dude,
814
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he's like, I just touched my heart, my soul, and
815
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I really just want to keep bringing attention to this
816
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:06.519
and and and help dextern. And man, I told you
817
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that too. It's it's it's heart wrenching to me that
818
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that this is, this is happening to you. It's crazy actually,
819
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.840
Like I just don't understand how this happens in the
820
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United States. I mean, we live in a free freaking country. Man,
821
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:25.679
What is going on here?
822
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.400
Well, like I said, this is you know, this is
823
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.800
what this is what these people want to do to
824
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.960
all of us, all of my brethren out there everywhere.
825
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This is what they want to do. Their ambition is told.
826
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.320
I mean, listen, here's some good news about my case.
827
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Here's some good news, right, you no longer have to guess.
828
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.280
But what I mean is this every now and then,
829
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.199
you you've been in two way conversations before, and you know,
830
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:57.079
you've probably had the experience of talking to someone who's
831
00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.719
who's on the left side of things, and you say, well,
832
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:01.559
where on the Second Amendment? They said, well, I believe
833
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in the Second Amendment, but you know, I believe in
834
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:08.480
common sense restrictions, right, common sense gun laws. Okay, So
835
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:13.400
here's the good news after this, after my case, right,
836
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.199
you no longer have to guess what they mean when
837
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:20.639
they say they're in favor of common sense gun laws.
838
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.679
What they mean is this what they did to me
839
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.840
is what they mean to do. That is their intention.
840
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.559
It's plain now, it's clear because remember, I want I
841
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:33.880
want to remind people that in New York, in New
842
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York City, well, in New York State, we've had, we've
843
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:43.480
had a policy under the Attorney General of being very
844
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.559
soft on certain types of things. So let's say, you know,
845
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.199
let's say, for the purpose of the argument, fat well,
846
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.519
you know you have the laws on the on the
847
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:56.760
New York State books. Uh, you know, defy the Constitution,
848
00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:00.440
defy the Second Amendment, fly in the face of the
849
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:03.119
Supreme Court ruling in Bruin. Okay, but there's still a
850
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:08.159
law in New York farewell. But here's the thing. We
851
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:13.960
have an Attorney general who, for example, uh, essentially legalized shoplifting,
852
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:15.920
right right?
853
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:17.239
Right? Am I lying?
854
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.039
Am I mistaken? Or could she say well, if you
855
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.559
steal less than nine nine hundred dollars worth of goods,
856
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:31.400
we're not going to prosecute, right, Okay. So there are
857
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.280
certain kinds of laws that there are certain laws that
858
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.559
they're that again, they have a very soft touch with,
859
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.920
you know, and there are certain kinds of people that
860
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.639
have a very soft touch with. But someone who asserts
861
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:50.000
his fundamental his human rights to arm self defense, you know,
862
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.880
they basically can't have that because that that is that essentially,
863
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:58.679
you know, having citizens who who really believe in that,
864
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.280
who really believe that the Second Amendment protects a civil right,
865
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:04.719
that's a daggers at the heart of their agenda. They
866
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:09.159
can't have that. And again that's why my bail was
867
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.920
so extraordinarily high. Like I'm obviously not a flight risk.
868
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.559
I mean, there's been who've been granted little or no bail,
869
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.519
right who are obvious flight risks. Do you have someone
870
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.320
who's in the country illegally, Okay, and he beats up
871
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.480
a police officer, Well, he has no local ties to
872
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.719
speak of relative to wherever whatever country came from. The
873
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.320
man is obviously a flat risk. Okay, he gets no veiled.
874
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.880
I'm a life I'm a lifelong New Yorker except for
875
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:36.800
the seven years I spent in Baltimore because I went
876
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.119
down there to go to school. I've lived in Brooklyn
877
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:44.639
since nineteen ninety four. I've only had like, what one, two, three,
878
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.920
four addresses in Brooklyn. Wow, I'm sorry, three three, three
879
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:55.519
addresses in Brooklyn? Right, So, and I had found all
880
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:57.679
my family is here. All my family ex wife, my
881
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.159
daughter lives in my ex wife, my parents live in Queens.
882
00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:01.920
Right.
883
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.639
So that's what I'm saying. This is this is very
884
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.239
obviously political obviously. So I mean, hell, they switched prosecutor.
885
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.440
They switched prosecutors on us bro like the first prosecutor,
886
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.320
the one who vouched for my moral character and writing
887
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.559
the person. Okay, they switched him out because it didn't
888
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:26.320
like the optics of fact. The judge that they switched
889
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.519
trapped and at the last minute to be able to
890
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:32.079
Judge was married to the Bertin's top under.
891
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.920
Good God. So hey, are you can you call back in?
892
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:39.360
Yeah?
893
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:43.119
Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, let's keep let's keep going, man, I
894
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.199
I don't think we've got all the information out yet,
895
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.280
so let's just keep going. And uh, hey, I'm going
896
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.840
to mute to my your microphone, so as soon as
897
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.239
you come back on, just unmute, unmute.
898
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.800
Okay, all right, sounds good.
899
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:06.920
All right, I'll see you in a minute. Wow, stay
900
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:11.360
with us, you guys. This is this is insane like
901
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.800
uh and and if you have any questions, please put
902
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.119
them in the comments. If you have questions, I'm happy
903
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:24.400
to ask Dexter anything that you'd like. This this is
904
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:27.760
this is crazy. This is the United States of America.
905
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:34.760
And and again I don't think it I'm not, if anything,
906
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.360
I'm I'm more of a center of the line kind of.
907
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.840
I mean, obviously those that know me know which way
908
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:47.320
I lean heavily. But I really believe in trying to
909
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:51.800
figure out a way to bring this country together and
910
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:57.000
stop with the division of left and right politics. And
911
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.679
and you know, have a conversation, but when when when
912
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.880
people on the left are pulling the stuff they're pulling
913
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:12.480
with this this man, like what is going on? And
914
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.039
and I would feel the same way if it was
915
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.840
somebody on the right that had done this this to
916
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.559
somebody on the left. It doesn't even matter that like
917
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:26.719
this is a good man, hard working man, educated man,
918
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:34.000
that that's a geek that was literally just making just
919
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.800
for fun as a hobby, making firearms in his basement.
920
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:46.519
And are you back now, Dexter? Okay, so I you know,
921
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:54.000
so so they change prosecutors on you, and which is insane.
922
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:59.360
And and they they obviously that was that was more.
923
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:03.320
Has anybody said, you know? Because I feel like that
924
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.280
if if President Trump were to make a phone call
925
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:11.239
to people there, well I don't know, they hate him,
926
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:15.039
so maybe it wouldn't wouldn't matter. But he does have
927
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:18.119
control over cutting off the state of New York and
928
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:22.400
their funding, you know, which I don't think is a
929
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:26.920
terrible idea of this. I don't know, man, this is crazy, dude,
930
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:28.360
it's crazy.
931
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:31.480
Well, well, I mean I wouldn't I certainly wouldn't.
932
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Mind.
933
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:36.639
Listen, we have, you know, a president who, for all
934
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:40.440
his faults, is the first president I can think of
935
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:48.679
who actually is treating second moment rights as civil rights.
936
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.239
I mean a civil rights Second Amendment task.
937
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Force right right, uh, to you know, to go around
938
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and to and to investigate where the states or federal
939
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:05.760
agencies are violating people's civil rights by viotting the second
940
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.400
amount of rights. So it would be you know, tekno
941
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:09.199
what could be done.
942
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:10.800
It would be great, if it'd be great at the
943
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:13.639
UJA to New York States to court. I think it
944
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.360
would be. I think it would be fantastic. At the
945
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.239
very least it would it would inflict, it would inflict
946
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:25.079
the maximum political embarrassment on the New York Democrats. And
947
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:27.760
I'll take that, you know, I'll take that. I mean,
948
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:29.360
certainly I want to get out of here, but I
949
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.280
also want I also want very much my tellow Americans,
950
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:36.519
especially my fellow black Americans, you know, who live in cities,
951
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:41.400
especially living uh Democrat run cities, just to be reminded
952
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:49.599
that well, first of all, that these are the same
953
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:57.320
Democrats who've been telling us ad nauseum right that because
954
01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.960
the serving president is in the White House, and why
955
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:05.320
supremacists have been emboldened, right uh right, and the guys
956
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:09.559
running around and and maga casts right now who are
957
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:14.079
hiding just got disguised. There's trees and bushes, you know,
958
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:17.280
waiting to lynch me from the nearest street life.
959
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.440
Well, Dax, as soon as we're finished, I'm headed. I'm
960
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headed to my my local clan meeting. So yeah, that's
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that's the way we roll.
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See, you know, to me, that whole thing has to
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01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.599
make sense. Like so, so you're saying that there's there's
964
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:41.000
two white supremacists everywhere, but nonetheless we should be disarmed,
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01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.840
That's what I'm getting at. Yeah, So something something in there.
966
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.519
Someone's got to square that circle. If if if these
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01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:51.280
democrats really care about us the way they say they do,
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01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:55.719
then why are they trying to disarm us in in
969
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.000
in the face of what they say is an obvious
970
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.239
threat thirst to white supremacists. Somebody makes that make sense?
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01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:05.599
It does.
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01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.159
You can't. You can't make sense out of that man there.
973
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:10.880
You just can't. That's crazy.
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01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.599
You can't. You can't square that circle exactly. So this
975
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.960
is this is the thing, you know, And you know,
976
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.880
I've been looking. I've been doing polical commentary online for
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01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:22.519
a long time, and you know I don't feel listen.
978
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.719
I you know, I'm a politically homeless conservative. So you
979
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.760
won't find me, you know, making excuses for any party,
980
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.480
even the Republican party. And I pointed out to people
981
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.480
that you know, even though even though there are a
982
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.679
lot of Republican influencers and some Republican politicians who speak
983
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:42.559
to and about the black electorate, was disrespect I mean,
984
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:46.480
that's just true. That's also true that they're not the ones.
985
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:51.320
They're not the ones trying to disarm us. You know,
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01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.599
do we talk about me and people talk about civil rights?
987
01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:54.880
You know, if it's the whole you know, the Trump
988
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.559
administration is doing this and the civil rights because they're
989
01:02:57.639 --> 01:02:59.559
running back the I. Well, you know, a lot of us,
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01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:04.079
a lot of my fellow uh a black fault. You
991
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.960
think that the I is poisoned. A lot of us
992
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.239
think that will Actually, you know something, our kids can
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01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:12.159
meet the standard whatever the standard is.
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01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:14.920
Right, the books harder.
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01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:17.679
We're able to add value, you know, we can, we
996
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.079
can we you know, we're able to to make useful
997
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:24.480
contributions and have made useful contributions to the life of
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01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:28.199
this republic. Uh, without any without anyone, without any do
999
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:32.199
gooders in Washington or elsewhere preting our case for you know,
1000
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:33.840
it looks like a lot of us are of the
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01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:37.800
opinion that hey guys, hey, delocrats, stop helping us like that,
1002
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.639
Like that's enough, already stop it. You've been helping us,
1003
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:45.960
You've been helping us for over half a century. And
1004
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:53.119
for its targeting instruction. Now there's no simple fix for
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01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:55.920
for for what's wrong with our cities because again, we
1006
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:59.719
for example, we've we've we've declared war on the American family,
1007
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:01.400
starting with the black.
1008
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:02.840
Family in the nineteen sixties.
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01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:07.920
So so so fixing that is going to take a while.
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01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:09.119
But I'll say this.
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01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:12.119
You know.
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01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:18.440
It's it's not to me. As a conservative, I incline
1013
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:23.960
toward distrust of all politicians, regardless of party. But a
1014
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:29.039
political party that wants to disarm you is your enemy.
1015
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:34.199
That plane, if you have a brother, if you have
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01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.159
a plan for my life, right, if you have a plan,
1017
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:38.800
I listen, I want to remake your life. I want
1018
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:40.599
to give you all that. And he said, but but
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01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.159
first you have to give you all your weapons. Excise me, what.
1020
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:49.360
What right? What? What you know?
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01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:52.159
Then I have to assume that that plan is not delightful.
1022
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.639
You know what I'm saying, Right, this is okay, So
1023
01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.079
this is more than anything else. This is what I want.
1024
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:00.400
I mean, naturally, I want to ge out of here.
1025
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:03.920
But but again, this is not this is not just
1026
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.000
about me. This is clearly not just about me. This
1027
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:11.920
is about us and this this is about what we're
1028
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:16.400
prepared to allow in all the public. Do we take
1029
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:21.159
these things seriously or not? Do we take the do
1030
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:22.920
we take the Constitution seriously or not?
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01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:23.679
That's it.
1032
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:31.360
I I'm I'm so disturbed by this. I don't I'm I'm.
1033
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.280
My brain is sitting here going, Okay, how do we
1034
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:39.880
get dexter out of the joint there? Like, how do
1035
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:41.719
we get you out of there? We we got to
1036
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.800
get you out of their holy crap. So well, I mean,
1037
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:49.760
and you're in some security prison, right, you said.
1038
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:56.360
Yes, the class day that facility. Because again, because I
1039
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:02.679
owned the firearms, I am a violent selling My god,
1040
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.599
it doesn't sound any it's funny about that phrase. It
1041
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:08.440
doesn't sound any less stupid.
1042
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:17.000
Right, it doesn't, because I you know, I live in
1043
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:20.159
the great state of Texas. Man, that would not that
1044
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.719
dog is not I'm just telling that it wouldn't happen.
1045
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:28.280
God, God, bless God, blessed Texas. But I mean, look, look, look,
1046
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:31.159
even even my brethren down in Texas. I mean when
1047
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:32.679
I say we have to fight that people have we
1048
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:36.679
I mean like, like even in Texas, you gotta watch yourself.
1049
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:38.960
You've got to consolidate your games. You've got to make
1050
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:42.199
sure this kind of thing doesn't defend because we've had things.
1051
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.079
I mean, take look at Colorado. Colorada used to be
1052
01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:49.480
a red state. Right Colorado state. What happened? What happened
1053
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:50.039
to Colorado?
1054
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:51.440
Right? Oregon?
1055
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:54.119
What happened to Oregon? You see what I'm saying. So,
1056
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.239
so that's why, you know, when when people who know me,
1057
01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:59.400
who my common pary, know that this is a horse
1058
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.320
I'm beating all the time, you know, conservatives have to
1059
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.199
have to lose this very bad habit of kind of
1060
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:09.480
worshiping their zip codes. Beyond beyond the fact that it's idolatry,
1061
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:14.960
right and therefore sinful, the fact is that, you know,
1062
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:20.000
we can't. The strategy of conservatives cannot be to simply
1063
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.960
retreat to their solitudes and say we're gonna watch the
1064
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.280
rest of it burn and I'm gonna be what it's
1065
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:31.320
There is no such things for it. Okay. So this
1066
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:36.400
is this is our home. We are we are one republic, Okay,
1067
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:41.760
and we're one people, and and and and and and
1068
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:44.079
we're we're in the thought of our lives. It's not
1069
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.239
just me again, because listen, we're talking about the two
1070
01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:47.840
way right now.
1071
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.320
But let's let's be playing.
1072
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:52.800
This isn't just about you know, our political struggle isn't
1073
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:55.920
just about those rights, right, it's about family.
1074
01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:04.400
Right When when when you were when you were called sorry,
1075
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:08.400
there's a huge delay, I apologize when when you were calling,
1076
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:10.679
when you were you know, in the middle of calling
1077
01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:14.639
back in I was saying, you know, I'm not I've
1078
01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:18.439
never really identified I mean, I'm a registered Republican, but
1079
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:23.119
I've never identified as I fully support all of this
1080
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.439
or I'm more of a like how do we what
1081
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.439
like the the the division in this country that is
1082
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.520
literally caused by politicians, By the way, the division in
1083
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:41.399
this country is is is not sustainable. Like it's not sustainable,
1084
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:46.079
just like racism. Racism is not sustainable. Y'all need to
1085
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:50.479
go educate yourselves and get the freak over it. Like that,
1086
01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:55.399
but like, how how do we bring both parts in
1087
01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.840
your in your opinion, I want to hear your opinion.
1088
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:02.079
How do we bring people to either whether they're black, white, yellow,
1089
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:02.720
and orange.
1090
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:03.800
I don't like.
1091
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.039
I don't care what color you are. Like, how do
1092
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:10.439
we bring both sides together and come together in the
1093
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:14.960
middle and have a conversation without the division and the
1094
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:18.079
violence and all of the insanity.
1095
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:23.439
Okay, I would say, I would say this. First of all,
1096
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:25.840
let me go back and kind of disagree very mildly
1097
01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.039
with something you said. He said the division is caused
1098
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.560
by politicians. I don't quite agree with that.
1099
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:34.600
If we go back to scripture, right.
1100
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:39.880
We see very clearly that that one brother, one brother
1101
01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.720
fighting another, one brother slaying another. Okay, for the stupidest
1102
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.520
possible reason. By the way, it is literally the second
1103
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:53.880
oldest story in the book, right, division is right exactly.
1104
01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:57.079
So division is bakingto the cake with us, just as
1105
01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:59.199
sin is baking too the cake with us, just like
1106
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:03.520
conflict is in the case with us. So I don't
1107
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:06.640
think we have to eliminate division, what we I think.
1108
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.239
I think rather, what we need to do is to
1109
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:13.000
just draw the circle a little wider, okay, in other words,
1110
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:17.119
like we have in other words, we have to we
1111
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:22.319
have three introduced the concept of the sacred Okay, because
1112
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:26.319
just so, let me let me just go wide a
1113
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:31.319
little bit you know, the Republican Party, I think uh
1114
01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:34.640
got got onto a very wrong track back in the
1115
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:42.119
eighties when they decided that or they seemed to decide
1116
01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:48.239
that that what was important was simply economic matters right
1117
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:52.119
and nothing else right when they when they kind of
1118
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:54.560
went down this libertarian pathway. And I have a lot
1119
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.920
of friends who are libertarians. But libertarianism is not a
1120
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.520
complete doctrine. That's that's the problem. Libertary a complete doctrine.
1121
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:06.560
You can't tell me rationally that man should be free
1122
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:09.680
unless you first have a concept of what man is.
1123
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:10.760
Is man an accident?
1124
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:12.760
Is he just?
1125
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.399
Is he just talking meat? Because if man is just
1126
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:18.399
an accident, and then there's no particular reason why man
1127
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:19.000
should be free.
1128
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:19.800
Now if man is.
1129
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.079
Sacred, ah, that's different.
1130
01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:23.640
That's different.
1131
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:27.000
If man, if man has a spark of the divine
1132
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:32.319
in him, that's different. Now you have a complete doctrine.
1133
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:36.199
And by the way, now you have something to fight
1134
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:39.560
for together. In other words, it's it's the concept of
1135
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:45.880
the sacred right. Really, it's a theological content that makes civilizations,
1136
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.560
that will give you a civilization that's capable of defending itself.
1137
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.079
I get to do whatever I want, just leave me
1138
01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:54.439
alone in my cabin in the woods is all fine
1139
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:58.039
and good, but that's not a fighting creed. Okay, they
1140
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:02.920
shall not transgress our sacred places. That's the fighting creed.
1141
01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:07.199
So I think one of the things conservatives need to
1142
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:10.680
do is to reintroduce that. Forget about, you know, laughing
1143
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:12.760
at people for how they vote. In fact, stop caring
1144
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:15.720
about how people vote or how they've voted, right, Not
1145
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.359
caring about that, not care about where people live, stopping
1146
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.199
something people's homes, Stop calling New York a shithole just
1147
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:24.079
because it gets you some clicks on on on social media.
1148
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:29.520
It's like, what things are sacred to us? And how
1149
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:33.359
will we defend them? That's the question. Because you know something,
1150
01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:37.560
I really do believe, okay, that all men are brothers.
1151
01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:39.159
But you don't.
1152
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:41.239
You don't almost get wrong with your brother. You do
1153
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:43.760
almost get along with your brother. Sometimes y'all have to fight, okay,
1154
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.319
mat So you and I are brothers, okay, And you
1155
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.000
know something it may happen that you know, uh, we
1156
01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:51.439
get into it because this and that, Oh, you know,
1157
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.479
you took my legos. Mom always liked, You've got about
1158
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:56.399
next thing? You know, we're rolling around on the lawns
1159
01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:59.199
fighting it all down.
1160
01:12:59.359 --> 01:12:59.560
Good.
1161
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:05.119
Well, if we see some rando walking toward our house
1162
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:08.920
with a jerry can full of gasoline and a zip
1163
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:13.359
ball lighter, I hope that you and I know we
1164
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:17.319
have to put aside the grievance whatever it is and
1165
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:19.319
stand too like men.
1166
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:21.039
Yeah, and.
1167
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:27.920
Here here's news. He's a good news. What the party
1168
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.760
is giving us all kinds of reasons to to stand
1169
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.479
to and defend what it's because they're coming after what's sacred.
1170
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:36.399
There's you know something, Your kids aren't really your kids, broken,
1171
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.279
Your kids aren't really your kids. Really, they're our kids.
1172
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:42.840
And so look at the teaching. We get to teach
1173
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.159
them whatever we want to in in in in public schools,
1174
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:49.760
right we get to indoctrinate them, we get to sexualize them,
1175
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.439
we get to mutilate them if we think it's a
1176
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:58.199
good idea, and you father, stay out of it. That's
1177
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:03.079
their program. So you know, to me, that's that's enough.
1178
01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:06.680
That's enough right there, even before you come to the
1179
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:10.640
sacred right to armed self defense, that's enough right there
1180
01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:12.279
to say, listen, I don't care what part of you
1181
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.560
with I don't pa, I don't care what you're voting
1182
01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:16.880
for whatever its like, we need to stand to and
1183
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:21.000
defend the sacred, defend the family. And I think it's
1184
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:25.760
conservatives focus on that. Then they've got a chance, because look,
1185
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.800
there is in fact a huge silent majority in for example,
1186
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:34.159
the Black electorate, the Latino electorate, the Muslim electricst What
1187
01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:35.680
did we see this past November?
1188
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:38.239
What do we say? What do we say? This?
1189
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:41.279
What we saw trumping his team, carving out, carving off
1190
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:45.960
voters that all the analysts were saying couldn't be carved away?
1191
01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:47.119
Right, right?
1192
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:47.960
Yeah?
1193
01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:49.319
What does that tell us?
1194
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:51.800
That tells us that that you know, there is in
1195
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:55.039
fact a bad silent majority. There's a lot of people
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01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.640
tune out of politics because they're just disgusted. But but
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01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:02.760
you know, they can be reached. But in order to
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01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.279
reach them, here's the flip side, here's the bad news.
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In order to reach the majority in for example, New York,
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01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:12.199
you have to come to us with something other than
1201
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:15.920
a nown of urban plantation. That that's not that's not
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01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:17.439
really a pitch. I'm very sorry.
1203
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:23.079
No, right, I agree, come with something deeper than.
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01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:25.000
That, something better than that. And I think it can
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01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:27.640
be done. And and you know, the the you know,
1206
01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:33.640
the current President showed you all the way, right, it's
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01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:38.000
up to the rest of populous conservatives right to actually
1208
01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:42.600
put that into action. And again, first, or anything else. First,
1209
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:47.359
it requires a leap of imagination, of theological imagination, to
1210
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:51.000
imagine that we're all brothers, to imagine that we have
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01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:56.119
one home and one family as Americans, and then to
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01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.319
fight for that and to defend the sacred And if
1213
01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:01.039
we do that, there's no guarantees.
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01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:03.800
Oh wow.
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01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:10.239
And and to do that we have to.
1216
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:14.159
I'm sorry to do that. If we do that, we
1217
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:18.880
have a shot. No guarantees, but we've got a shot
1218
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:22.119
at turning this thing around. And the other thing I'll
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01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.239
say is that again, no, no, no strategists, we're in
1220
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:28.079
the sight of our lives is defined to reclaim our republic.
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01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:33.039
No no strategist in his right mind looks at the
1222
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:36.840
battlefield and says, yeah, we're just gonna give up all
1223
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:43.560
the high density areas with the most the most commerce,
1224
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:46.439
and the most We're just gonna give those to the enemy.
1225
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:51.920
And then right, that's ridiculous. Okay, So the Republicans have
1226
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:57.039
to stop doing that. We have these people everywhere, or
1227
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:01.039
we're going to lose because their ambition remember, their ambition
1228
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:02.079
is total.
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01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:04.560
So if your.
1230
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:08.119
Ambition is just partial, right, if you just want to
1231
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.800
play defense and they're on twenty four seven, bro, you're
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01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:12.279
gonna lose.
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01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.880
But let's let me let me let me ask you this. So, So,
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01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:20.439
I have a lot of friends that and good friends
1235
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:24.199
that that lean left and and they're you know, probably
1236
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:29.680
more liberal than they are are conservative. And and you know,
1237
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.920
for those that are listening that are because I guarantee
1238
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.520
you that there's some there's some that are going to
1239
01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:41.159
hear this, watch this, or are watching or listening right now.
1240
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:45.319
They just haven't commented or said anything to the liberals
1241
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:50.079
that that that. How do you address them? How do
1242
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:53.920
you address the people who are are leading left or
1243
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:56.960
on the left that are like, dude, you were breaking
1244
01:17:57.079 --> 01:17:57.479
the law.
1245
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:57.960
You were.
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01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.319
It doesn't matter if you didn't know you were breaking
1247
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.279
the law. You were still breaking the law. Like you know,
1248
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:05.880
you deserve everything you got. And I'm just seeing the
1249
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.680
devil's advocate. I'm not saying that you did, because I
1250
01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:09.840
don't think did at all.
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01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:13.000
What do you say to that?
1252
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:14.359
What's your argument?
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01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:15.479
Oh?
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01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.920
Oh, very simple, And thanks for asking the question. What
1255
01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:24.640
I would say is, well, if I was feeling. If
1256
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:27.359
I was feeling diplomatic, I wouldn't say this feeling spicey.
1257
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:31.720
I'd say, very well, hypocrite. What if New York State
1258
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.439
had passed a law that said black people have to
1259
01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:39.880
go into public buildings using the colored entrance, and I
1260
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:43.800
decided to go into public buildings using the regular entrance
1261
01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:48.079
through the frunt door, and I arrested in charge with
1262
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:51.159
criminal trust pass What would you say then? Would you say, Oh, well,
1263
01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:53.560
you knew that you, being black, had to use the
1264
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.239
covied inference, So I don't see what the prop is.
1265
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:58.960
I don't care your broken law. See. No liberal would
1266
01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:02.840
say that. They don't say that right because they have
1267
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:04.720
a very because when it comes to when it comes
1268
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:08.119
to certain civil rights, they get very weepy on a
1269
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:12.760
moment's notice, right, you know you you hear you, hear
1270
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:14.720
you hear people talk about all they're trying to reform
1271
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:17.119
the voter laws because they're trying to do whatever the
1272
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:21.560
motive is, right, Liberals will get very weepy instantly. It's
1273
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:24.079
all you know, voting, voting rights to the world, voting
1274
01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:28.840
is the civil rights. You seem to have no problem, right, Okay,
1275
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:32.600
So so essentially I would say that the reason if
1276
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:34.560
someone says that's what I said, and is the reason
1277
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:39.840
you say that is because of your degraded and de
1278
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:45.000
based conception of what a civil right is. And I
1279
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:47.520
would say furthermore that the other reason you say that
1280
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:52.319
is because you have a debased and degraded concept of
1281
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:55.159
what the civil rights struggle has been. You think the
1282
01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:58.920
civil rights struggle was just all about black folks marching
1283
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:01.479
in the street and singing Negro spiritual pools and getting
1284
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.560
our ass beat by police until good white liberals show
1285
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:10.279
up and save the day. That's not how it was, Okay.
1286
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.880
Black people in America have a long tradition of armed
1287
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:18.439
self defense. Who do you think was keeping the plan
1288
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:21.920
office in the country, in the counties down south where
1289
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:25.680
the Democrats were running things, right, how do you think
1290
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:26.920
we kept the clan office?
1291
01:20:28.239 --> 01:20:33.239
Harsh words, No, that's right, okay.
1292
01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:34.840
And as a matter of fact, is the other thing,
1293
01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:37.319
that thing the liberals are always talking about, are always
1294
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:44.319
talking about institutional racism, right, and so the white supremacy, Okay,
1295
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:51.399
gun control is the prototypical instance of institutionalized racism and
1296
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:55.399
institutionalized white supremacy. The purpose of the very first gun
1297
01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:02.159
control laws passed in this country was to deprive black
1298
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:07.439
Americans of the means of the right and the means
1299
01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:11.680
of armed sell defense. That is what it comes from.
1300
01:21:13.159 --> 01:21:15.880
So again, someone says that to me, him like, Okay, well,
1301
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:21.680
very well, you're a hypocrite, you're a lying, you're a fraud,
1302
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:24.319
you don't really believe, you don't have the courage of
1303
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:29.000
your own convictions, you know, and and and and then
1304
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.600
that's what i'd say, you know, because of course, yeah,
1305
01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:35.000
no one, no one would defend no one. No one said.
1306
01:21:35.039 --> 01:21:37.119
I mean, you know, if you asked, what do you
1307
01:21:37.119 --> 01:21:39.439
think about what Rosa Parts did, well, you know, she
1308
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.399
doesn't know, they wouldn't say, well, she was she she
1309
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:44.720
knew that that was against the laws, so she deserves
1310
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:47.840
what she got. No sane liberal would say that. But
1311
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:51.359
it's because they don't think that the Second Amendment rights
1312
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:54.239
are civil rights. And by the way, they've been pushing
1313
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.760
this narrative that the Second Moment is only for white folks, right,
1314
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.640
and and they're hoping that will stick. They're hoping it
1315
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:01.119
will stick.
1316
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.560
So so, you know, I think that that there's also
1317
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:10.399
a lack of I'll just say a lack of education.
1318
01:22:10.600 --> 01:22:14.319
I think there's probably a lot of people that don't
1319
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:20.319
realize that the the the the the KKK, for example,
1320
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:26.880
was was formed by by Democrats. It was it was
1321
01:22:27.079 --> 01:22:32.039
created by I mean, I don't know.
1322
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:34.640
I I just think it was basically arming.
1323
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:38.000
Yeah, it was the arming of the Democratic Party. Yes,
1324
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:40.680
well there is that. But here's me.
1325
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.359
You don't even have to look. I would say that
1326
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.560
that's true, but we have to be honest.
1327
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:47.039
You know.
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01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.279
Again, it's also true that that when you are trying
1329
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:53.039
to make a pitch right again, it's all about how
1330
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:55.399
to win hearts and mind because that's politics, how win.
1331
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:56.720
Hearts and mind right.
1332
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:01.119
And the problem is, the problem is Republican have many reproblems,
1333
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:02.560
not all of them, but many of them, and many
1334
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:05.800
of the influences, the big ones especially, have kind of
1335
01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:08.760
given up on changing hearts and minds and they're content
1336
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.600
to just thro the insults. And you see, I think
1337
01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:15.039
about this. I think about this with a private sector mentality.
1338
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.159
Remember I worked in the private sector. That's where I
1339
01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.479
have a thirty some ody year career in the software industry.
1340
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:24.119
In the private sector, if you know that there's a
1341
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:28.159
swath of people who who aren't buying your product and
1342
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:33.520
are buying the competition's product. Well, then the one thing
1343
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:34.720
that I can do is you're not gonna do is
1344
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:38.199
insult them, Like no, no competent salesperson moves to this.
1345
01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:40.600
They'll go and say, hey, let me give me a
1346
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:43.159
chance to win your business. And if the answer is no,
1347
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:45.319
you say, well, listen, thank you for yourself. You don't
1348
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:47.439
then say all, well, I should have expected because you're
1349
01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:49.920
obviously one of those two people who buy the competition.
1350
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:52.760
If you don't say that, you say, listen, thank you
1351
01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:55.119
for your time. I'd like to come back in three
1352
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:57.239
months or six months or a year, whatever and and
1353
01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:01.840
try it. Try for your business again. Okay. And speaking
1354
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:06.119
of the silent majority in the private sector, we see
1355
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:10.119
that if I'm in the red widget company, Red Widgets Incorporated,
1356
01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:13.279
and my competition is Blue Widgets Incorporated.
1357
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.359
And I noticed that that maybe you know, forty.
1358
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:18.720
Fifty sixty percent of the people in a given sales
1359
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:23.520
region have never bought a widget of any color. I
1360
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:28.399
see that as an opportunity. And if I have a
1361
01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:32.680
sales executor right who's assigned to that region, and I
1362
01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:34.199
point that out to him, and I say, hey, what
1363
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:35.439
are we going to do we need to get our
1364
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:37.479
numbers up. Hey, there's this huge number of people who
1365
01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:39.760
haven't bought a widget. Can we go talk and if
1366
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:44.720
he tells me it's not worth it, it's not worth
1367
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:48.159
our time to go and talk to the the undecided
1368
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:53.600
of the people who if he tells me that he's fired, right,
1369
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:58.039
he's fired. I mean I could desk get the bricks
1370
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:02.319
doing it. The four door hitsu alw your audi right right,
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01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:05.359
I'm looking at you, Charlie Kirk. I'm looking at you,
1372
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:09.199
Charlie Kirk. Okay, because a lot of again, disrespect, a
1373
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:10.720
lot of this is all week. We shouldn't we we
1374
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:13.399
shouldn't even bother to go after the black vote. Well
1375
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:13.720
why not?
1376
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:14.720
Why?
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01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:17.279
I've run the numbers on turnout, by the way, I've
1378
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:20.439
run the numbers on turnout, and everyone has been repeating
1379
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.119
a talking point which is numerically false, which is the
1380
01:25:23.279 --> 01:25:26.520
most black people vote for Democrats. Know it's that of
1381
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:31.720
the black people who turn out and vote, most of
1382
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:36.960
that turnout tends to go to Democrats. But again, if
1383
01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:40.079
you go run, go get the numbers yourself and run them.
1384
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:42.119
Don't don't take my work, go run the those What
1385
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:43.960
you find is that in many of our major cities,
1386
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:46.800
in many of our blue cities, you may have like
1387
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.119
a thirty turnout rate.
1388
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:51.319
Okay, that believes.
1389
01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:53.560
Sixty seventy percent of.
1390
01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:57.600
The black electorate who hasn't turned out, they have, they're
1391
01:25:57.640 --> 01:25:59.479
not voting, Okay.
1392
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:02.960
Is any one talking to them, is anyone making the
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01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:06.439
picture them? Or are they just saying, well, you live
1394
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.279
in a school and you're stupid, so enjoy right.
1395
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:17.920
But I like what Trump did. He went to where
1396
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:21.399
he went to the Bronx, in the Bronx or wherever
1397
01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:21.760
he was.
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01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:27.560
Ye yeah, yes, that's what I'm saying, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1399
01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:29.439
I mean whatever you listen, whatever you say about him,
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01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.359
He's got a lot of heart and he just doesn't care.
1401
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:33.680
He's like, you know something, Yeah, I'm going I'm gonna
1402
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.520
talk to these people, right exactly.
1403
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:38.680
Yeah, I mean that's what it takes.
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01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.199
That's what it takes. That's what it takes. And and
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01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:46.359
again it's important not because you know, again, you could
1406
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:50.479
do this for entirely selfish and cold blooded reasons. You
1407
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:52.640
don't have to do because you care about me personally.
1408
01:26:52.840 --> 01:26:54.279
We need to stop these.
1409
01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:57.640
People, yes, we need to stop these people.
1410
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:03.039
Okay, So so you do what it takes. Okay. If
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01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:05.640
it means talking to people who may have voted for
1412
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:08.319
the opposition and trying to swim, then you do that.
1413
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:10.760
And if it means talking to people who haven't voted
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01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.319
in the last five years, then you do that. And
1415
01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:16.479
if it means modifying your rhetoric so it's less disrespectful,
1416
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:18.439
so you have a chance to make an actual pit.
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01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:19.079
Then you do that.
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01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.039
Okay, because I can tell you. I can tell you,
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01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:25.199
by the way, having with the New York my whole
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01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:30.760
life and having called up in a working class black community.
1421
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:33.920
In New York, I have never you have one minute, lass, I've.
1422
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:36.000
Never talked to a working class black person who had
1423
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:41.319
any particularly use for the Democratic Party. They just tolerate them. Yeah,
1424
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:42.159
it's the devil, we know.
1425
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:45.680
Good God, do you want to call You want to
1426
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:46.000
call that.
1427
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.439
I'm gonna drop him. Yeah, I'm gonna drop them. Come
1428
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:49.840
back soon.
1429
01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:51.720
Yeah, I'll be right.
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01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:57.600
Back, okay, all right, yeah, So so Dexter, Dexter Taylor,
1431
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:03.800
everybody that's and I'm going to remove him for a minute,
1432
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:10.880
so he'll be right back. And I do want to
1433
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:15.960
say that Dexter is I don't know how far off
1434
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:18.720
he is now, but he has a gifts and go
1435
01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:26.319
He's He's not not buying houses or or cars or anything.
1436
01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:31.239
He's incarcerated in the state of New York and a
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01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:41.000
class A violent fellon prison because he was him being
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01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:46.439
a hey, nan, I'm good to see you. Dexter was
1439
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.119
is a geek and he was just he's a He
1440
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:55.720
was the senior data analyst for a startup company in
1441
01:28:55.800 --> 01:29:00.720
the railroad industry, but he decided he wanted to learn
1442
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:04.680
how to make firearms because he just geeked out on it.
1443
01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:08.279
He and he started making them in his basement. He
1444
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:13.159
never fired one single round through anything that he ever made.
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01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:19.159
They never ever ever left his house. They never left
1446
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:23.640
his his house in New York City. They they he
1447
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:29.600
got raided and they seized all of his firearms. As
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01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:31.319
a matter of fact, let me just share. I'm not
1449
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:35.119
gonna play the video, but I'm going to share my
1450
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:40.399
my screen so you guys can see this is this
1451
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:45.640
is the the seas that they did. Right there. You
1452
01:29:45.760 --> 01:29:48.199
can see what they seized. I don't want to play
1453
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.439
the video because I'm afraid that it'll Oh sorry, I
1454
01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:55.159
guess I should add it to the screen. But there's there.
1455
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:58.920
I'm not gonna play the video of the CBS news.
1456
01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:01.359
But if you go to the YouTube and type in
1457
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:07.319
excuse me, type in Dexter Taylor into YouTube the CBS,
1458
01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:12.079
the CBS thing will pop up and it shows them,
1459
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:16.119
you know, interviewing Dexter, and it's it's really the only
1460
01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:24.640
mainstream media attention that Dexter has received. So go check
1461
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:26.279
that out when you get a chance. I'm not going
1462
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:29.479
to play the video just because I don't want YouTube
1463
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:34.039
or Facebook or any of the others to to to
1464
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:36.920
take this stream down. I think it's far too important.
1465
01:30:37.079 --> 01:30:40.279
So Dexter is back. Let me add him back to
1466
01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:46.359
the stage here. Dexter, welcome back. Thank you. Queen Bee
1467
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:50.680
is on here saying this excellent interview. Ken. We really
1468
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:53.920
appreciate you bringing him to the forefront, of course, and
1469
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:57.439
and this we're going on two hours now and we've
1470
01:30:57.479 --> 01:31:00.199
been on here, but I think this is important. I
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01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.920
want to talk a little bit about Dexter, if you can.
1472
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:07.079
I'd like to talk a little bit about the process
1473
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:13.319
that you have that you're going through a file and appeal,
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01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:18.079
and and the money it takes to pay these lawyers,
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01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:21.239
and and you have a gifts end Go that a
1476
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:25.159
lot of people are contributing to. I highly encourage people
1477
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:28.279
to go over to give them and go. I'm gonna
1478
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:31.479
pop a link up that Carlton Jones Junior put up
1479
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.319
that that you know is the link. If you're on Facebook,
1480
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:39.319
you can click that. But all you have to do
1481
01:31:39.520 --> 01:31:42.199
because I found it. I just went to gibsendgo dot
1482
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.439
com and typed in Dexter Taylor and it came right up.
1483
01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:49.039
But Dexter, talk a little bit about the process of
1484
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:54.680
filing the appeal and what you've been through trying to
1485
01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:59.920
get that done. And by the way, I'm so disgusted right,
1486
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:05.560
I'm just like I want to anyway, I'd better not
1487
01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:06.479
say what I want to do.
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01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:12.119
Go ahead, Well, thank you, brother, So, I mean, yeah,
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01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:15.239
it's been an interesting process. I'll say first that you know,
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01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:18.720
we have a top notch legal team. My lawyer's name
1491
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:22.520
is the new our GeSe law Firmans Barghese and Associates.
1492
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.680
You know, he's a conservative. He's been on tele I
1493
01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:29.359
think he's been on a Fox a few times of
1494
01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:33.079
from legal commentary what have you. But you know, one
1495
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:35.720
of my ex wives, God bless her, found him for me.
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01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:37.840
I mean, I didn't, you know. I I just called
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01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:39.399
her and said, listen, I'm in jail and I need
1498
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:42.560
I'm need an attorney. And this is and you know,
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01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.159
that's who she found. And it's like I won the lottery.
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01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:46.119
He's great.
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01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:49.159
He understood right away why I wasn't going to take
1502
01:32:49.159 --> 01:32:53.119
any plea deals. And he understood right away what this
1503
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:58.159
case meant, right because he was thinking about the case
1504
01:32:58.279 --> 01:33:00.399
not just as a lawyer, but as a concern as
1505
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:00.760
a fellow.
1506
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.920
I I'm sorry, I need to jump in real quick.
1507
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:07.680
The Queen Bee, you put please report, do not report,
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01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.479
do not report. I think she meant to put please
1509
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:17.640
repost this live stream, don't report it, repost it. So
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01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:21.680
I just want to in case anybody saw that anyway.
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01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:24.720
She's awesome, But yeah, I think she had a typo there.
1512
01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:26.159
But go ahead, sorry, go ahead.
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01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:28.960
Yeah so.
1514
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:34.960
So uh, in addition to our trial, our court costs.
1515
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:38.079
During the trial, we had to spend thousands of dollars
1516
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:41.039
simply don't buy our transcripts. That was the whole thing.
1517
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:43.199
I mean, who knew. I didn't know that. Like if
1518
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:46.760
you when the state takes you to trial, at least
1519
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.479
in New York State, you don't just get your transcripts,
1520
01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:54.199
even though it's now just an electronic document, right, it's not.
1521
01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:57.319
It's not reams of paper, just a file. But you
1522
01:33:57.359 --> 01:33:58.079
don't get it free.
1523
01:33:58.079 --> 01:33:58.600
You have to pay.
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01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:02.159
So we say thousands of dollars. The state tried to
1525
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:05.359
overcharge us by like something around one hundred percent for
1526
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:07.920
the transcripts, and my little air God bless and made
1527
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:10.600
a big fuss about it. But even when we cliveit
1528
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:14.680
up with thousands of dollars of the transcript and then
1529
01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.359
so you know, he and my team actually wrote the
1530
01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:20.000
appeal and now it's going to take more money to
1531
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:22.880
file the appeal. So long story short, you know, the
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01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:26.439
the the the the number on my gifts and might be.
1533
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:29.000
This evening because people.
1534
01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:30.479
Looking at and say, oh yeah, there's a lot of money.
1535
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:31.800
We were run through all that.
1536
01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:37.279
So the next the next milestone is to to to
1537
01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:40.960
get the money together to file this appeal that's already
1538
01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.079
been written. And then after that the process is that
1539
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:47.520
we we really it's a hurry up and wait because
1540
01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:51.439
we have to we have to run through all the
1541
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:54.159
New York State appeals courts in which we are not
1542
01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:57.479
likely to get any Second Amendment relief, and we have
1543
01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.640
to do that so that we can get to the
1544
01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:03.039
center appeals courts where we have a chance of getting
1545
01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:08.720
some Second Amendment relief. We may get some relief on
1546
01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:12.119
some of the irregularities in my trial. Skeptical, but it
1547
01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:15.119
might happen, right because again, what I was gonna say
1548
01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:18.079
earlier was that you know, the judge, the judge in
1549
01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:20.439
our case, the judge they switched in at the last minute,
1550
01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:23.039
really acted as a third prosecutor.
1551
01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:23.199
In the trial.
1552
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:24.319
I mean, it's obvious.
1553
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:26.520
It was obviously she had.
1554
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:28.960
Orders right to make sure that this went a certain way,
1555
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.920
and she did. You know, she was very successful. And
1556
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:35.560
you know, uh, you're free to contact my attorney and
1557
01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:38.359
asked asking the details of what went down in the courtroom.
1558
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:39.239
But yes, it was.
1559
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:41.119
It was egregious.
1560
01:35:41.439 --> 01:35:45.840
You know, everything from from trying to rehabilitate obviously biased
1561
01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:50.199
potential jurors during the war Dar process to you know,
1562
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:54.760
interrupting his opening statement multiple times with no with no
1563
01:35:54.920 --> 01:36:00.359
reason and no admonition given to to uh, to lodging,
1564
01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:04.840
to lodging numerous objections uh in the course of testament,
1565
01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:07.239
and like I've never I've never seen a trial apparently
1566
01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:09.560
judges have the right to do this, but I've never
1567
01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:13.159
really seen a court case where the objections come from
1568
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:16.800
the judge. Usually it's like, if the prosecution's up, then
1569
01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:19.239
the defense will object to something, or if the defense
1570
01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:22.159
is up, then the prosecution will object to something. But
1571
01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:25.920
in this case, it's like, we're not not objections coming
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01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:26.800
the bench.
1573
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:31.319
Yet.
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01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:34.199
You know, I give you an example. I give you
1575
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:37.359
an example. You know, the we want to the witnesses
1576
01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:41.800
against me was a gentleman who was with the OND.
1577
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:44.760
He worked in the permitting department. I remember his name.
1578
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:46.439
But again, my lawyer can give you all the details.
1579
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:50.680
Uh and in the transcript. But this gentleman, you know,
1580
01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:53.800
my lawyer was a cross examming, cross examining. And then
1581
01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:55.520
he says, well, you know, what's your job at the
1582
01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:58.760
permitting department? He said, well, I own the records, right,
1583
01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:02.600
I owned the records very well. How many people applied
1584
01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:11.159
for a gun permit in twenty twenty four, I don't know. Well, okay, well,
1585
01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:14.600
how many people applied for a gun permit in twenty three?
1586
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:18.239
I don't know. Well, an't you?
1587
01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:21.479
I thought you on the record objection from the judge.
1588
01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:29.039
Oh my god, because my God, we contramist that we
1589
01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:33.399
dig into the fact that on the surface, we still
1590
01:37:33.479 --> 01:37:35.960
have a me issue permitting regime. And by the way,
1591
01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.239
has testimony made it clear that we still have a
1592
01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:42.680
may issue. Now A shallows you permitting regime right in
1593
01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:47.000
New York State. So you know, there's all kind of
1594
01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:49.800
course the famous quotes, the famous quotes from this judge
1595
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.560
about the Second Amendment. You know, second moment claims will
1596
01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:55.399
not be permitted in New York. The Second Amendment is
1597
01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:58.079
not the law. We can't allow the jurors to be
1598
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:03.239
confused form for second moment issues. This case is not
1599
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.880
about the Second Amendment. That issue, meaning the Second Movement
1600
01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:12.079
has no place in this trial. Right, So that's kind
1601
01:38:12.119 --> 01:38:15.560
of what we're up against. And again we we we
1602
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.319
knew that we stood a good chance of losing in
1603
01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:21.199
in trial court. We know how that goes, all right,
1604
01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:24.680
But again I think it's important again given that that
1605
01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:28.359
has happened, I just I just want what I what
1606
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:30.479
I really want is is just shine a very bright
1607
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:33.760
light on that whole process. You know, Again, the Brooklyn
1608
01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:37.479
DA said shortly after I was in dieted, long before
1609
01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:40.920
my trial began, that if we are going to make
1610
01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:45.439
an example of extra tailor. That was Eric Gonzales saying that,
1611
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:49.279
and you know something, I want to help him. I
1612
01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:52.520
want to I want to help Errikanzales make an example
1613
01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:55.520
of me. I'm glad he said that because this, as
1614
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:59.119
a matter of fact, this is an example. This is
1615
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:03.840
an example of what democrats and progressives want to do
1616
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:10.039
to law abiding citizens everywhere. So voters in all of
1617
01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:14.640
these states please take notes. This is the example courtesy
1618
01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:19.119
of our friends Er Gonzales, Brooklyn da Right, this is
1619
01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:20.920
the example of what they want to do.
1620
01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:22.560
So you know.
1621
01:39:24.399 --> 01:39:27.640
The goal therefore, and act accordingly. You know when when
1622
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.319
when election time comes around, go to the polls and
1623
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:32.600
act accordingly, vote accordingly.
1624
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:42.920
I'm like, so I'm gonna I'm gonna share your your gives.
1625
01:39:42.920 --> 01:39:46.199
Send go page up on the screen right now. I
1626
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:50.840
would I would love it if everybody watching just hear
1627
01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:54.359
me out on this. Just just go donate, even if
1628
01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:57.640
it's five dollars, If you can only donate five dollars,
1629
01:39:57.800 --> 01:40:02.319
donate five dollars, donate ten dollars, donate twenty five dollars.
1630
01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:04.920
Five I think is the minimum that they'll allow you
1631
01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:08.520
to donate. But go donate something he hasn't even had
1632
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:12.479
a donation in three days on this, So let's get
1633
01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:16.720
some donations in here to help Dexter. You know, if
1634
01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:20.600
it was anybody and and Dexter, you said it earlier,
1635
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:23.560
and I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it up again. I mean,
1636
01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:29.159
if this can happen to you, a you know, it's
1637
01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:32.840
not like you were some some you know, homeless dude
1638
01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:37.159
or terrorists that came into the country illegally. You've been
1639
01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:41.359
a lifetime New Yorker living in New York. You had
1640
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:46.560
you were the chief or head data analyst of a company,
1641
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:51.319
you know, employed, you just started, you were geeking out
1642
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:54.960
on learning how to make make firearms in your basement,
1643
01:40:55.720 --> 01:41:01.920
and they they completely you know, to me, it's it
1644
01:41:02.079 --> 01:41:06.359
seems like there was some kind of a probably more
1645
01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:12.680
than one, back room conversation that that these these people
1646
01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:15.680
had saying, let's let's make an example out of him,
1647
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:20.359
no matter what, let's make sure that he is convicted.
1648
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:24.720
I believe it, no matter what. Well, you know, it's
1649
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:28.880
interesting you say that my mom my mom thinks that
1650
01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:32.199
there was a deeper kind of political motive behind all this.
1651
01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:33.920
I don't know that I agree with her, but that's
1652
01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:37.399
what she thinks, because a few years ago, I did, okay,
1653
01:41:37.439 --> 01:41:39.680
there's a there's a documentary that's been released in the
1654
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:44.000
American market. It's called The Great American Race Game, and
1655
01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:47.079
it's about the true history of the Democratic Party. And
1656
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:52.000
I did the voice open a erration if if you go.
1657
01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:56.079
I think it's still available on uh Amazon Prime. I
1658
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.560
think it's made. But it was made by my friend
1659
01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:03.439
Martin Durkin, who was a you k uh documentary producer, filmmaker.
1660
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:09.239
I guess you call him a conservative, you know, definitely
1661
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:12.880
a big fan of America, fan of the Second Amendment,
1662
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:20.000
fan of all things that we would consider good or vicious,
1663
01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:24.880
and uh yeah, he tapped me to do the voice
1664
01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:27.680
over and did that voice over narration as Carton kikes.
1665
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:29.520
If you if you were to video from now a
1666
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:30.319
long time.
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He would hear my You could hear my voice good narration.
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Now. That video won the half one Best Foreign Documentary
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at the Film Festival in twenty two in Las Vegas.
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I believe it's really longs. My model thinks that my
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01:42:52.520 --> 01:42:54.479
mom thinks a bit that that that the New York
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01:42:54.520 --> 01:43:00.399
Democrats know about this, and and that they're mad different
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01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.199
thing because again it tells the story of the true
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01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:07.239
story of the Democratic Party. I don't know that that's
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01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:11.720
the case, but there there were obviously backroom discussions, very
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01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:17.199
obviously because again, whatever the case is, Look, you know
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01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:21.800
they can't allow but if in their minds they couldn't
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01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:27.039
allow someone to challenge their political agenda, and their political
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01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:31.039
agenda involves making sure that people are are disarmed and afraid.
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01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:36.359
Because see, if you have a population that is disarmed
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01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:39.880
and afraid, then you can you can go on to
1682
01:43:40.159 --> 01:43:44.920
use street crime as a kind of a clearing instrument, right, Yeah,
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01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:48.359
to crash real estate prices, right to move people out
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01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:50.000
of a certain part of the city, so that then
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01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:52.800
you can your friends can move in, and and and
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01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:55.119
and make killing long real estate. You can do all
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01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:59.800
these things, right if you have a population that's scared
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01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:01.880
and and defenseless. The other thing is that if if
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01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:05.000
people can are actually allowed to defend themselves and defend
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01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:10.079
their homes, will have you, Well, then they might start
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01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:14.159
to ask themselves what they're paying you for, right.
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I mean, Remember, this is New York City.
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This is not a city where everything is running perfectly
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01:44:20.079 --> 01:44:22.560
and they happen to be stepping on people's rights. That
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01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:24.439
would be different. It would it would be bad, but
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01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:25.199
it would be different.
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Right.
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01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.359
This is a situation where if people don't feel safe
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01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:32.319
because they're not safe. They're not safe in their house,
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01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:35.520
not safe on the subways, for God's sake, right, not
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01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:36.600
safe on the streets.
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01:44:37.319 --> 01:44:43.840
Yeah, well, I mean it's like the guy it's like sorry,
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01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:47.399
it's like the guy that that that wasn't that the
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01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:51.319
New York subway where the dude was defending, like defending himself.
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01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:54.720
The other dude died and like like they.
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01:44:56.520 --> 01:44:59.399
Him, Oh yeah, oh that wasn't the subway. That was
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01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:03.960
That was a of bodega. That was my man, jose Alba, right,
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01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:09.399
was working in that odega and clown comes in on
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01:45:09.800 --> 01:45:13.119
front of the old man, goes behind the counter to
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01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:15.640
where the guys to have to beat this guy up.
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01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:19.039
What happened and jose Albert wrapped the weapon and ventilated
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01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:22.279
the guy. Okay, well he got what he got. That's
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01:45:22.319 --> 01:45:25.680
what's good common sense interpretation of those events is that
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01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:27.520
is that he got what he got.
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01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:30.119
Okay, because you you did.
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01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:31.880
You have no reason to go and put your hands
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01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:35.479
on this old man when he was just there working right. Okay, now,
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01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:40.600
Alvin Bragg, right, the the Manhattan DA decided to that
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01:45:40.760 --> 01:45:43.199
he was going to put Jose Albert in the jackpot
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01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:48.319
for manslaughter because they don't believe in self defense. They
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01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:51.319
don't believe in self defense. Why because if you can
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01:45:51.399 --> 01:45:55.600
defend yourself, okay, and and the principle of of of
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01:45:56.159 --> 01:46:00.359
righteouslf princes normalized and eventually people are gonna be Look, well,
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01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:02.840
hang on a second, what thing you all this money for?
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01:46:03.319 --> 01:46:06.439
What would you call these the highest probably acident in
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01:46:07.279 --> 01:46:10.119
maybe in the country or or or certainly in the
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01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:11.279
top five or top ten.
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01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:15.079
And what are we getting from this? Right?
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01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:19.800
So? So, yeah, you know, people who people who can
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01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:23.279
defend their homes and their lives and their property start
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01:46:23.399 --> 01:46:26.479
to look at the world differently, and that they don't
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01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:31.359
look at the world like dependence, right, And the Democratic
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01:46:31.399 --> 01:46:34.920
Party is all about dependency. They're all about dependency and
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01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:35.880
power and control.
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Right.
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01:46:37.279 --> 01:46:39.720
Yeah, And again that's what makes them that that's not
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01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:43.239
that that's what makes them the enemy. You'll never hear
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01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:47.279
me saying that the Republican Party is the para aunt
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01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:50.039
of virtue or anything like that. I'm saying that, you
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01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:52.520
know that the people who want to actually do this
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01:46:52.720 --> 01:46:55.039
kind of thing to you, you know, that they are
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01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:57.920
the enemy. And by one more thing I've been ranking
1743
01:46:58.000 --> 01:46:59.479
for all let me just point out one more thing.
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01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:03.680
It's that recently in the wake of you know, the
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01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.760
wave of kind of immigration enforcement actions and so on
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01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:10.199
and so forth, you know, it's it has struck me
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01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:19.119
that many of these lefties are treating privileges as if
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01:47:19.159 --> 01:47:24.600
they were rights, and treating rights as if they were privileges.
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01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:28.520
I mean, see, that's the thing, because talking about having
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01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:31.199
weapons in your home as a law abiding citizen, it's like,
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01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:34.720
that's a right. If you have to ask the government permission,
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01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:38.880
that's a privilege. But on the other hand, coming to
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01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.640
this country and making your home in it, and what, well,
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01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:42.479
that's a privilege.
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01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:46.279
That's a privilege. It's not a right.
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01:47:46.840 --> 01:47:50.079
You have to ask permission, right, But these people are
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01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:54.880
treating these these these these are political hacks in Washington elsewhere,
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01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.199
well no longer than Washington. But you know what I mean,
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01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:04.920
they've been reading, they have been trained, uhh, immigration as
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01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:10.600
a right, and they're happy to treat uh uh you know,
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01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:13.680
self defense arm self defense at the privilege is not
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01:48:13.720 --> 01:48:14.279
a privilege.
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01:48:15.079 --> 01:48:19.119
Well, and and you know, listen, it wasn't even like
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01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:23.439
you were in some form of self defense. You were
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01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:29.920
literally just uh uh. I mean, I know it was
1766
01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:32.399
you weren't a hack, but you were a weekend hacked,
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01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:36.039
just trying to like do something, you know, for fun
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01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:41.039
and as a hobby. And you're making firearms and never
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01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:46.560
fired a single round and it's just insane. This is insane.
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01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:49.439
Like so so listen, I I I do need to
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01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:53.880
wrap this up, Dexter. I'm I'm so grateful that you
1772
01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:57.880
came on and you spent all the time you spent
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01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:04.600
with us. I'm I'm gonna do everything I can. I'm
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01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:08.039
very connected, so I'm gonna do everything that I can
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01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:13.399
to bring more attention to your case. And I hope
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01:49:13.439 --> 01:49:17.279
that people will go to your gifts and go just
1777
01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:20.119
go over to Gibson. Go on the computer. It's in
1778
01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:22.800
the upper left hand corner. There's a little search thing
1779
01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:26.199
type in Dexter Taylor. It's the first thing that pops up.
1780
01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:29.840
And give some money if you would just five bucks,
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01:49:29.960 --> 01:49:34.199
five dollars, ten dollars, twenty fifty, whatever whatever you can
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01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:38.119
do to help this guy. I mean, this is crazy, y'all.
1783
01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:41.760
This is nuts. This is the United States of America,
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01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:47.640
and we have a good man, Dexter Taylor, sitting in
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01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:51.399
a state penitentiary with violent criminals who are in there
1786
01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:54.800
for murder and all kinds of other things, just for
1787
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:58.840
being a weekend guy having fun learning how to make
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01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:02.239
his own firearm in his basement. And by the way,
1789
01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:07.479
not one of those firearms ever ever breathed air outside
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01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:12.000
of his house, so like, it's just crazy. So please
1791
01:50:12.479 --> 01:50:17.000
do what you can. Share this out, get more eyeballs
1792
01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:20.039
on this, do what you can as far as his
1793
01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:23.960
gibson go go over there and help out as much
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01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:27.199
as you can. And dex dirt man, You're in my
1795
01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:31.319
thoughts in prayers. Brother, I'm I'm, I'm so sorry this
1796
01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:35.600
is happening to you. But thank you for standing up
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01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:37.000
for all of our rights.
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01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:42.359
Hey, thank you brother, not letting you for doing it.
1799
01:50:42.640 --> 01:50:46.399
Thank you for bringing attention to this case. Thank you
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01:50:46.479 --> 01:50:49.920
for taking an interest. I would I would just add
1801
01:50:50.119 --> 01:50:52.840
to what you said that there's something else your listeners
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01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:54.960
can do that doesn't cost any money, which is a
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01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:58.319
step of word right. Of course, I don't want to
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01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:00.520
get out of here and be with my family again
1805
01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:05.520
and bi my people again. But failing that, I will
1806
01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:12.199
at least take inflicting maximum political embarrassment on Democrats.
1807
01:51:12.640 --> 01:51:13.119
I'll take that.
1808
01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:16.600
So the more light we shine in this case, the
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01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:19.720
better right, the more like we shine.
1810
01:51:19.479 --> 01:51:20.520
On this, the better.
1811
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:24.640
Right. They did this because they could right, because they
1812
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:30.039
believe that might makes right. Very well, you know, insist
1813
01:51:30.119 --> 01:51:32.960
that they make it makes sense right. Force them to
1814
01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:36.319
force them to justify what they did. Force them to
1815
01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:39.720
square what they did with their rhetoric about loving black
1816
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:43.680
folks so much so, force them to square this right
1817
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:46.560
here here, I am right, Black New York who's interests them,
1818
01:51:46.720 --> 01:51:50.560
who has a career in STEM. Right, Force them to
1819
01:51:50.600 --> 01:51:52.920
reconcile that with with with with the way they get
1820
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:55.319
weepy every time. So well, there's not enough black people
1821
01:51:55.439 --> 01:51:58.199
in STEM. We need to do more, you know, force
1822
01:51:58.319 --> 01:52:01.479
them to reconcile this with their pr quote unquote helping
1823
01:52:01.720 --> 01:52:07.319
us right. So the word conservative influences in your circle, podcasters,
1824
01:52:07.399 --> 01:52:09.760
I'm always down to talk to any of my strong
1825
01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:14.560
conservative brethren. And again, thank you with God bless you
1826
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:16.319
for doing this for I really appreciate it.
1827
01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:21.359
Man, God bless you too. And and and I'll do
1828
01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:23.439
it again if you want. I'll do it as often
1829
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:28.239
as we need to. I'm I'm, I'm I'm disgusted. I
1830
01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:33.000
find it absolutely appalling. I had a run in. I
1831
01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:38.439
almost literally drove right into a traffic officer. She was
1832
01:52:38.560 --> 01:52:42.800
not very happy. When I was in Manhattan, I was
1833
01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:45.359
on thirty fourth Street and it was like Christmas and
1834
01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:50.079
I'm facetiming my wife, trying to show her because it
1835
01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:53.560
was my first time ever there. I'm driving, I'm driving,
1836
01:52:53.640 --> 01:52:54.720
I almost hit a try.
1837
01:52:56.560 --> 01:53:00.840
Oh but you're lucky. You should have gone home and
1838
01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:01.680
played a lot of rooms.
1839
01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:07.920
I'll tell you though. They sent me a bill with
1840
01:53:08.079 --> 01:53:12.079
a fine on the bill for a toll, and I'm like,
1841
01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:14.399
why are you fighting me? This is the first time
1842
01:53:14.439 --> 01:53:16.600
I've ever seen. So I call and I get into
1843
01:53:16.640 --> 01:53:18.960
this argument with some young dude and he's like, we'll
1844
01:53:19.039 --> 01:53:22.359
suspend your license. I'm like, you can't suspend my license.
1845
01:53:22.399 --> 01:53:24.960
I don't live there anymore. On and I'm like, I'll
1846
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:27.880
pay the original toll, but I'm not paying your fine,
1847
01:53:28.079 --> 01:53:30.199
like this is the first thing I've ever seen. But
1848
01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:32.960
and he's like, no, you have either that, and I'm like,
1849
01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:35.319
well then I'm not. So. I think there's probably a
1850
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.920
warrant out for my arrest in New York City. I
1851
01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:42.520
don't know for some twenty dollars tall.
1852
01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:48.439
I'm like, good lord, I'm consorting with traffic outlaws.
1853
01:53:50.760 --> 01:53:53.680
Right right, I know. I'm like, dude, I'll pay the
1854
01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:56.680
original fee, but I'm not paying a late or fine
1855
01:53:56.800 --> 01:54:00.520
or whatever that two hundred dollars fine for a twenty
1856
01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.880
seven dollars toll or something. I'm like, yeah, no, how
1857
01:54:03.880 --> 01:54:09.199
about no anyway, So, dude, you're in my heart, You're
1858
01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:12.520
in my thoughts and prayers. Stay safe in there, man,
1859
01:54:13.880 --> 01:54:16.720
and and we'll do everything we can out here to
1860
01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:22.119
get the word out. Everybody listening or watching, please keep
1861
01:54:22.239 --> 01:54:26.600
Dexter in your prayers and help as much as you
1862
01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:29.159
can and every way you can. The best way you
1863
01:54:29.239 --> 01:54:31.399
can help is to share the crap out of this.
1864
01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:35.000
And if you know any other big podcasts or big
1865
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:40.560
podcasters that would be willing to host Dexter, reach out
1866
01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:42.359
to me and I can. I can connect you with
1867
01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:47.159
with the right people and Dexter, you rock, brother, You're
1868
01:54:47.199 --> 01:54:48.560
really an amazing human.
1869
01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:53.039
Thank you, Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. God lets you,
1870
01:54:53.079 --> 01:54:54.600
and thank you for the prayers as well. Keep the
1871
01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:59.119
prayers coming. This old sinner needs much help can.
1872
01:54:59.119 --> 01:55:02.760
Get Yeah, we all do. We all do aim en
1873
01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:06.199
to that. All right, y'all have a great day, Dexter,
1874
01:55:06.560 --> 01:55:10.039
stay safe, man, and know that we're praying for you.
1875
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:14.640
Thank you, Thank you you too.
1876
01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:21.479
By bye. So that was Dexter Taylor. Y'all, just please
1877
01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:24.840
share this out. Go over to go to Gibson go
1878
01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:28.399
and just search his name on there. There's a little
1879
01:55:28.439 --> 01:55:33.439
search icon at the top. Search Dexter Taylor. And and
1880
01:55:33.680 --> 01:55:36.600
let's let's bring a lot of attention. Share this out
1881
01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:40.760
to everyone that you know, and let's help this guy
1882
01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:45.199
because he needs help. He needs our help. He's wrongfully
1883
01:55:45.479 --> 01:55:51.399
incarcerated in the state of New York and definitely law
1884
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:55.239
fair involved and that's just absolutely insane. This is the
1885
01:55:55.399 --> 01:55:58.640
United States of America. Let's let's get this under control.
1886
01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:02.439
Y'all have a great day. Thank you for watching. Thank
1887
01:56:02.479 --> 01:56:05.199
you for every to everybody who's shared in all the
1888
01:56:05.319 --> 01:56:09.000
comments and love and support. Appreciate each and every one
1889
01:56:09.079 --> 01:56:11.520
of you. Have a wonderful day and we will see
1890
01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:11.920
you soon.