Cisco Live Review

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Hey everybody.
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Welcome back to this week's edition of Breaking Down the Bytes.
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So, we are back.
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It's been a few weeks.
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We had some things go on some holidays, so yeah, there was Father's Day in there.
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Then there was the recoup from Cisco Live was in there.
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And so we are back.
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All three of us, three Musketeers are here ready to rock and roll, talk Cisco live, what we learned and what our experience was like, and just sort of a little bit of a recap.
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So if you're interested in that stick around.
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We will get into it.
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And rock and roll.
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So, Kyle, what's up man?
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How you doing?
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Yeah, not too bad.
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Uh, dealing with the, smokes still, you know, it's exciting.
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Canadian wildfires, they're gotta calm down.
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They're encroaching on America's territory for the July 4th weekend.
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This is terrible.
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Yeah.
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Can't have that.
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Jesus.
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Yeah, we for those don't know here on the East Coast, we I guess there's some crazy wildfires going on in, in Canada, so they are making their way down down the East coast and it's been pretty hazy the last couple days.
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And truth be told, we just had a tornado warning here like an hour ago.
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Like, they told us to like, get in the basement and like get to cover.
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So, nothing happened.
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No funnels or anything like that, but the sky dig get pretty dark and I was like, Ooh, this may happen.
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So, but we are clear and ready to rock and roll, so, but yeah, tornado stuff's kinda kind of scary, so, yeah, other than that weather.
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See, yeah, I covered your weather, Kyle.
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That's, that, that was your thing.
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So it is now covered.
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just had to
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That's right.
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.That's right.
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That's it.
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That's it Bait the old bait and switch.
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Hey.
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So yeah, that's all good there.
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So Alex, my friend, in the sunny, clear skies of Southern California how are you my man?
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Yeah, nothing too new to report, so 4th of July weekend, so my type of weekend grilling.
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Nice weather here,
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Yeah,
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fireworks.
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that's about it.
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up.
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That's right.
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Speaking of grilling, I got a smoker like a week ago, two, maybe a week and a half ago now.
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And I did my first barbecue yesterday, all day, eight hour uh, pork butt on the old smoker.
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The initial run, let me tell you.
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It was good.
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It was real good.
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So I'm intrigued to do more.
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So, much more of that to come.
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So stick around me.
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We may talk about that and I may, toot my own horn here on the show every now and then when I make one, it's pretty good.
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So, the wife loved it.
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My aunt came over last night for dinner.
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She loved it.
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So I was like, all right, well they, if they like it, then I'm gonna keep going.
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So it's all it's all good.
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So if you're smoking or anything like that, you're grilling, all that kind of stuff, hit me up cuz I'm a rookie and I need all the help I can get, so it's all good.
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So I'm looking forward to doing more.
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I sent you pictures, right, right, Kyle?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It
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And you too, Alex.
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Yeah,
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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that looked pretty good.
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it
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right.
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looked, so good.
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I went out and I, I bought some wings and I was like, I'm gonna smoke some wings now.
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See,
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just got me set started, you know?
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I sucked into it.
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That's it.
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You have a smoker too, Kyle.
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Yeah.
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Pellet smoker.
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Oh, app pellet.
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Nice.
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that's awesome.
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Yeah.
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I got the old charcoal, so it's all good.
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So anyway let's regroup here.
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What Cisco Live Man, it, it just, it feels like forever ago, but man, like it's one of those things where I'm gonna remember it for a long time cause it was my first one and, people were telling me that it's, it's a cool place and, all this, that and the next and man, it did not disappoint.
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So, I don't know.
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Alex, do you have any opening thoughts on Cisco Live?
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This is your, this was your what, like third or fourth one maybe.
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Something like that.
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So I went to consecutive, then we had the Covid nonsense and the first in person, uh, Cisco Live after that was last year.
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It didn't go and obviously went this year.
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Um, so I guess the biggest thing I, this one is much different than the two that I went to previously.
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So, um, But I heard that people that went last year said it just wasn't quite the same experience.
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Uh, it's just, uh, they haven't ramped it up a hundred percent.
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People were little anxious, I think, so the attendance was down, some things were limited.
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But yeah, this year it just felt like the same great experience that I had gone through
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yep.
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before.
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So, yeah, this is is not an anomaly.
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this is what I've come to from Cisco
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Yeah, I,
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if you didn't like it This year, you're probably
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yeah, right.
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year is my thought.
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I heard a round number.
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I heard it was like close to 17,000, something like that.
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That, that walk through the door.
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So it was it was pretty crazy.
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I mean, like I said, it was my first time, so I didn't really know what to expect or what to, or have anything I should say, have anything to compare it to.
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But and I thought, man, that world of solutions, when that opened up Monday morning, it was, I was just like, this is the most people I've ever seen in my entire life.
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This is insanity.
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Like, it was just so crazy.
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But no, it was pretty wild.
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And I flew in Sunday I got there noon local time and got the badge, I was checked into the hotel, got the Cisco badge, the whole deal.
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And then being part of the Cisco Champions community, we had a couple of like exclusive behind the scenes tours that we got to do.
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So, so that was cool.
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We walked over.
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The world of solutions, like I said, wasn't open until Monday to the rest of the folks, but we got in Sunday night, so we walked in and I kind of had a moment cuz I walked over to where the store was the Cisco store where they sell the t-shirts and all that kind of stuff.
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And there was a couple champs that I recognized from the online space.
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So I walked over and started hanging out and introducing myself.
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Cause this a lot, this was the first time I was meeting anybody in person from that community, which is kind of cool.
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And then here, David Bombal walks over and I'm like, Whoa.
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Like David Bombal, like I've been learning your stuff and listening to you for literally a decade and like, here you are, standing in person.
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I was like, is this real right now?
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This is crazy.
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So, so that was really cool to meet him.
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He is a real standup guy.
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Loved talking to him for a few minutes and he was just, he was interviewing everybody and just hanging.
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I saw him later in the week hanging, in our Cisco champion space that they have carved out on the world of solutions floor.
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There's like a little there's like a little booth, not a booth, but it's like a couple couches and that kind of thing where we kind of, you know, kind of congregated throughout the week and, met whatever.
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So, so that was cool.
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He was back there with us hanging for a little bit, but he is a really cool guy.
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So if you don't know who David Baal is, go check him out.
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YouTube is his big platform.
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That guy just does a ton of YouTube videos very heavy Cisco cybersecurity network automation, all that stuff.
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His channel is just a wealth of knowledge.
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So yeah, meeting him was really cool in my eyes.
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Cuz like I said, I've been watching his stuff for literally over a decade and kind of meet him.
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Was a full circle moment for me.
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So that was kind of cool.
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So yeah, Sunday was cool.
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And then Sunday, you and I, Alex, we went to Topgolf to get a little swing in, so that was cool.
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Yeah, certainly as a big golfer.
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That was uh, always fun.
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And then you talked about meeting people that you've seen in trainings.
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Uh, as soon as you walked in, you walked in with, I, I forget his name already.
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Oh yeah.
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Du'An Lightfoot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dewan Lightfoot.
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Yeah.
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AKA Lab every day.
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That's his Twitter handle.
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He is pretty, he's pretty popular, so Yeah.
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He what a what?
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A he is.
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What a,
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But yeah, as you walked in with him immediately I knew he was familiar and I was thinking to myself, man, that's so embarrassing.
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I must've worked with this guy in the past and I just don't know who he is, or I don't, I can't think of his name.
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And then it dawned on me about 30 seconds later that he was the instructor of a course that I'd watched online, not even a month
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yep.
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So, yeah, say my dad, it's really, you know, anyone who's, anyone in this industry, to this event.
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So, it really is interesting see those characters.
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So, yeah, I was already, you know, first event.
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of Cisco Live.
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it was
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Right.It was so crazy cuz so we were with, like I said, we were over at the World Solutions with the champs and stuff and my boss was there and our good buddy Gerard was there and he and Dwan was hanging with Gerard cuz they're friends and they were asking what we were doing and I was like, we're going to top calls cuz our vendor was having a night out there.
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So they're like, ah, can we tag along?
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And I was like, Yeah, whatever.
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So we all took a cab and there's a funny picture out there on my Twitter account, layer eight packet look it up.
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It's me, Gerard and Dewan in the back of a little ass cab.
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And we're three big dudes.
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So like, we really, like, we literally squeezed in there and like half of me was hanging out the window cuz I could, we literally all couldn't fit in the back of the cab.
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So, my boss, Evan was in the front seat by himself, but then it was the three amigos in the back and we're big dudes.
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So like deju, like, it was so funny.
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We were at a stoplight, dwan.
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Puts his cell phone out the window and takes the cell.
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He's like, yo look over here.
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And we just look over there and he takes the selfie and that's what this picture is from.
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And oh man, it is it's so funny.
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It's like, oh God, it's like that Chris Farley skit fat, fat guy and a little coat.
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It's like, three, three fat guys in a tiny taxi, you know, that kind of thing.
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So that was That was pretty cool.
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So that's always a good memory.
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But yeah, we all met the top golf and man, DWA was swinging it, man.
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He was funny.
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But I've never swung a golf club in my life and that was fun for me.
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Cuz I just don't take myself too seriously.
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But yeah, that was a lot of fun.
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You know, obviously Obviously hor d'oeuvres and drinks and, all kinds of stuff and blah, blah, blah.
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But yeah, we had some good fun there at the old top golf and funny story I, it was my first time in Vegas as well.
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And so when the night wrapped up, we walked out and it was my boss, Evan and I, and.
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We walked out and there was a black s u v waiting out there and the guy's like, oh yeah, I'll take you right now.
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You know where you going?
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We're like, oh, we stayed at the Luxor, oh, the Luxor, which is literally like not even two miles from this top golf.
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And he gets in, I get in the front seat, Evan gets in the back, blah, blah, blah, and he drops us off at the front thing at the Luxor, and I hear Evan go how much?
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What's the damage?
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And he goes, oh, 40 bucks.
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And I almost felt like everyone was gonna have a stroke, 40 bucks for like less than two miles.
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He's like, you gotta be kidding me.
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This.
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And I'm like, dude, you're expensive.
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Nobody's gonna blink an eye at a$40 cab ride.
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Like nobody cares.
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You I guy thing.
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And he's like, I know.
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It's just the principle.
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I pay 40 bucks for a two mile cab ride.
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I'm like, dude you're the guy with the corporate card.
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I don't have to mess with that that kind of thing.
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So that was a funny story as well.
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But yeah, Cisco Live didn't even start yet.
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And we had a full Sunday that was just, It was just crazy and it, like, it didn't even start like Monday morning is when it actually starts.
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So that was that was pretty wild.
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I gotta say.
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It set the tone for the whole week and the week was pretty good.
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So that was always always a good time.
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So Monday it starts, and I mean, you probably could spend a couple hours just going through every single day and what you did.
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But uh, starting with Monday, What shocked you the most?
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What surprised you the
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well, I just, the amount of people that were there, and I like when we talk about like, the world of solutions, which is kind of the big ticket item there.
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I would say that, that and the breakout sessions are kind of the two big things that Cisco Live is sort of known for is, those two things.
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So the world of solutions and just the amount of space that's out there and the amount of vendors that were there was just kind of, it was just, I didn't expect it to be that big.
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Like I knew it was gonna be big, but like, that was massive.
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Like I, you, you literally could set a whole day aside and just walk the world of solutions floor and be completely content with what you did that day.
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Like, it was just insanity of how large that was.
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I was not expecting it to be that large, but it was
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Yeah.
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I mean, I walk through every day and still Thursday I was walking around finding things that I hadn't noticed all week yet,
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for sure.
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yeah, for sure.
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So Monday I did a bunch of sessions Monday.
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Some were great some was my fault, and I didn't pick them right.
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I thought my very first one was a little too.
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Novice a little too fundamental for my liking, but it was a good refresher.
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Not that it wasn't a good course or a good session, but it just, I felt like I could have popped in another one in that space that would've been a little more beneficial to me.
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But the review was, the refresher was good for me, but I had a lot of good courses lot of good content.
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The people that were putting on the sessions were super smart, really helpful and I'm looking forward to going back and cuz they're all recorded, you can get them.
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You can get them on demand now.
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So I'm looking forward to going back and kind of really diving in.
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That's the one thing I didn't expect or I was kind of taken aback by.
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Like, some of them were in these massive rooms.
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Like, they're almost like ballrooms, like that's the size of these things cuz so many people sign up for it and it's kind of hard to concentrate, at least for me, in that large of a size.
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Room and you kind of get lost in like, looking at other things like people and oh my God, what's going on here?
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And this and that.
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Like, even though everybody's like focused on the presenter and talking and he's got slides and, all that kind of stuff.
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Like it the larger the room, I feel it was a little distracting for me to kind of get the content out of, whatever was being presented.
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But there was some phenomenal breakout sessions that I went to that was really helpful and I'm glad I went.
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But it's funny, like I was all jazzed up, like at the beginning of the week to do all these sessions, and then by Thursday I had like one session.
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I didn't go to any other sessions, but like one on Thursday.
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So like as the week went on, the session slowly died by numbers.
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Like, Monday was like four, Tuesday was two.
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Wednesday was like one or two.
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And then Thursday I was like down to one, I was like, oh, this is, I'm done with this.
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Yep.
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Yeah, and I mentioned it on our precursor podcast saying that I think the biggest mistake people make when they go to Cisco live, at least for the first time, is that they schedule too many breakout sessions or they attempt to go to too many breakout sessions, and there's just so much more to it that you're really gonna miss a lot, especially since these
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yeah,
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I mean, you can, you can re-watch these anytime you want.
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You can't really walk uh, the showroom floor or, uh, do hands-on lab quite
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sure.
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Yeah.
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So one thing I didn't do this year was any hands-on lab.
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I didn't do any of that.
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I didn't do like meet the engineer, which I probably would've liked to cause I was kind of focused on the sessions.
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But if I do get a chance to go again I will tweak a, a little bit as far as what what I kind of focus on, like you said, the here and now versus what you can get.
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On demand sort of thing.
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So that was a lesson or two learned or whatnot.
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But then Monday, you, our boy, Nate, and myself, we all went to Morton's for dinner.
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And that was the stake of a lifetime right there.
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Well, eating out's always a grape
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Yeah.
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So the idea at Cisco Live is to literally like, do your thing.
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And then so breakfast and lunch are provided by Cisco Live, and then you're kind of on your own for dinner.
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The idea at Cisco Live is to not pay for a single dinner the entire week to get a vendor to take you out, which is the absolute goal.
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But Alex Alex, Nate and I, we, we took an Uber over to the Morton Steakhouse that was there and had a phenomenal.
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Steak.
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It was it was amazing.
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So that was the only dinner that I paid for that whole week was Morton's.
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Which was great.
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The Morton's was was definitely a highlight of the trip.
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That steak was so good.
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Man, that's, I wish we had something close to that back here, but man, we just it is what it is.
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And then it was funny cuz what did you guys do after Morton's?
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Did you go gamble or what did you do?
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Yeah.
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That's pretty much what we did every night.
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It's like, uh, that, that was our routine.
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It was Cisco Live, that's five-ish six uh, go get dinner and then go gamble.
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And then it was, they were pretty early nights.
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I mean, cuz uh, cuz we got to the event at by nine every morning.
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So you didn't wanna morning.
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But yeah, that was it.
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That was probably back, at the hotel by.
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10 most nights really.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Monday night after I left you guys, they went back the champs were doing a, like a happy hour thing at the Rera, which is an Irish pub in Mandalay Bay.
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So they rent, they rented a room one of the back bars, or back rooms, I should say for the Cisco champs.
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And we just went there.
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And so I showed up and there was quite a few people still there and hanging.
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And so I hung I hung with some cool cats back there.
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So, shout out to my buddy Jordan, who's at NetBox or NetBox Labs, I should say.
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So, we hung with him for a while, taking a drink or two.
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And then that kind of kind of, I don't wanna say dried up, but it was over at like nine 30 ish or whatever.
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And then one of the other guys, we were all like, ah, we're not really quite like, go back yet, blah, blah, blah.
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And so me being a big hockey guy, ice hockey the Golden Knights were playing at the T-Mobile arena right next door.
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So, so the one guy's like, Hey let's let's walk over there and see if there, there's a bar over there from what I remember from last time, see if we can go cash into the game, blah, blah, blah.
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I was like, okay.
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So we walked through the, through Luxor, through the Excalibur, and on the other end of the Excalibur was, is it kind of dumps you outside, but it's right that, right at that bar, at the T-Mobile arena.
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And by the time we got there, it was k it was, the game was over.
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And so we had one beer and then they kind of closed up.
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Closed up on us.
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Then we drank our beer walking back.
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But I didn't get home till, I didn't get back to the hotel till like close to midnight.
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It was like 1130, midnight.
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I was like, Ooh, I'm burning the midnight.
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Oh, I gotta get up.
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That kind of thing.
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So that was always fun.
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It's always nice to see the Vegas nightlife when you can.
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So that's all good there.
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What's some other highlights?
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Monday
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That's it.
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That's right.
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That is a productive Monday.
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Tuesday was the first keynote.
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I was actually like, I wanna say like three rows on the bottom floor.
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I was three rows back, so that was pretty cool.
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That was really close for the first keynote.
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Where all the C level folks get up there and say their spiel and, that kind of thing.
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So that was neat.
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Did you guys go to that Alex?
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Uh, we did and uh, we did show up a little bit late and I think that goes like how.
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Packed.
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one was the Cisco Live because they were filling up like just secondary rooms where you just had a screen so you could watch the keynote.
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Oh wow.
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wow.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, that's how I watched it.
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I sat in one of those
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And to give,
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watched it.
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on a screen.
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yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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That's pretty wild.
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To give people an idea of where these keynotes were, at least in Vegas they're in the Michelob Ultra Arena, which is like, it's in the Mandalay Bay Hotel, and it's a decent size arena.
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Like, it's like, I wanna say like, like the W N B A team plays there or something.
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I think I heard that.
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Like, so it's like a decent size arena.
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It's not just a, it's not just a ballroom where people can get so many, a couple hundred chairs in.
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Like, it's a, it's an actual like sports arena where people come and play and, basketball and all that kind of thing.
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So if they were putting people in ballrooms, you know, a lot of people showed up to that.
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Like, it was pretty crazy.
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I just looked it up.
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12,000 people fitting there.
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So,
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There you go.
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See?
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More than 12,000 showed up to watch that cuz I
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That's it.
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That's it.
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Yeah, exactly right.
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So that was that was a good time.
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I was part of Tech Field Day which was pretty cool.
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That was my first tech field day.
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I was basically like a delegate for Tech Field Day.
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And I had the company Open Gear came in and did a presentation for Tech Field Day.
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So Open gear is like a lot of like, out of band management type deals.
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So they were doing that.
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So that was cool.
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Got some swag on that.
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So that was really cool.
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that was the last minute
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too familiar with that though.
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When you brought it up, that's the first time I had heard about it.
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So what exactly is the idea between Tech Field Day?
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They just pull some people that are in the.
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I don't know, social media, podcast field, people that are kind of like
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not even that.
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It's, more just.
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to take a look at something.
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well, yeah, they have a few, they have Tech Field Day.
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They have Security Tech Field Day, they have Networking Tech Field Day.
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So there's a couple of different events throughout the year that they do.
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They just had.
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Tech Field Day security or they call it security field day.
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It was actually the 28th and 29th of June, so it was literally this week.
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And they have them all around the states.
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Most of them are out your way, Alex, like California, like Silicon Valley, and stuff like that.
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They have a storage field day, they have cloud field day.
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So there's all these different events and they're basically, they bring in, I forget how many there are.
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You can look it up.
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It's tech field day.com, but it's they have X amount of delicates where they actually live stream it, they video record it, blah, blah, blah.
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And they bring in different vendors of whatever.
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Tech field day you are attending?
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I'll stay with the network one, cause that's the vein we live in.
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But like, so they bring in all these vendors and then basically you are there to be kind of a voice for the possible consumer.
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So we're there to ask questions about X, Y, and Z.
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We're there to ask, like add like real life or real environment scenarios for this gear, that kind of thing.
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So, how would you deploy this?
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Or Hey, we have this type of environment.
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How would you deploy X or how would y work?
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That kind of thing.
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So we're there to be like the audience voice as they're giving their presentation.
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So that was pretty cool.
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Yeah, it was pretty neat.
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how'd you earn your spot?
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I was actually invited last year but I couldn't go for whatever reason.
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I couldn't remember.
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Oh, I just started a customer's bank like it, and like the event was like, like a month after I started, so I couldn't like, and you actually, like, they actually fly you out and you go, so it's like you have to take off from work to like do this sort of thing.
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So it's, it's a whole, like, I don't wanna say it's a couple days.
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I don't know if it's a week, but it's a couple days.
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So like I didn't feel comfortable taking off that early in my customers bank career.
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It's like, Hey, I'm starting in May, but in June I'm going.
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So I told him to kind of put me on the back burner and then the guy that runs it, Tom he went to my boss, Evan, cuz they know each other from, from.
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Tech field days in the past and asked if I knew anybody and my boss threw my name out there and that's how I got the last minute spot out there at Cisco Live.
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And it was with open gear and met some cool people and it was a good,
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Yeah, I guess that's something that kinda impressed me uh, with, with how you did your Cisco live.
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First time you went there and you almost felt like a vet, like you did a lot of things.
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Uh, I think people, like they worked their way up to like doing some of these side things and getting into some of these bigger events and yeah.
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Kudos to you.
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That's good.
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Yeah, it was cool.
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Yeah.
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I was just like, yeah, sure, I'll do it.
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That kind of thing.
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So I just sacrificed a session or two.
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But again, like we said, they're pre-recorded, so I can do'em anytime.
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But it was like an hour and a half or whatever, and they had the whole thing, they micd you, they, video the whole it live stream all that kind of stuff.
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So that was fun.
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So that was that was Tuesday morning for me.
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And then Tuesday you and I got into the DevNet stuff and we'd never seemed to like leave the DevNet arena, the DevNet zone that yeah.
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That we got.
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So that was an interesting thing.
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Yeah that was interesting.
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You got some swag outta that.
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Yeah.
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a little bit.
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Yeah.
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So I know pat's getting at the Capture the Flag event uh,
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Yeah.
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which is really just a lot of labs on a bunch of different technologies, and you get points by accomplishing certain tasks within these different technologies.
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Um, and they do, they walk you through most of it and they're pretty good labs.
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I mean, you learn a lot.
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Um,
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they were.
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first started doing it, uh, I just.
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Like anyone else, I guess I just.
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picked the, the technologies that interest me the, most.
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And they have these things called missions where uh, once you capture X amount of flags for a certain technology, you complete a mission by the way.
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Um, I ended up completing two of those and then one of the proctors just walked over cuz I don't think they advertised this anywhere cuz I didn't realize this was
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No, I didn't hear
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They just said, oh uh, since you completed two missions within this track, you actually get$50 to uh, Cisco store.
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And that's wasn't just cuz I was the first one or anything like that.
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Just anyone Got it.
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And uh, so that.
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prompted Nate who was with us.
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And did you end up getting it, yours too done or no?
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No, I tried, but I didn't get to the finish line.
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I ended like two or three missions before I was like, oh man, I ran out of time.
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Cuz they technically stopped at Wednesday at three o'clock I think it was, or whatever it was.
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So like, I did the SD wan track first, so I just thought it was just two, two missions or two tracks.
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It was actually specific to the data center track.
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So that did like Nexus dashboard and things of that nature.
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So I was like, oh.
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So I thought, well, I'll do the SD WAN one and then I'll do another one and that should be it.
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No, it was specific to the data center track, which I didn't realize until later.
00:26:24.605 --> 00:26:29.816
And then I tried to squeeze it in at the end of the, at the end and Wednesday at three o'clock was the cutoff time.
00:26:29.816 --> 00:26:30.625
And I didn't make it.
00:26:30.726 --> 00:26:32.375
So did Nate end up making it?
00:26:32.716 --> 00:26:33.816
Did Nate get some swag?
00:26:34.486 --> 00:26:37.066
two, so he got his$50 card
00:26:37.801 --> 00:26:38.091
Nice.
00:26:38.321 --> 00:26:38.941
That's cool.
00:26:39.346 --> 00:26:41.406
and then, we ended up spending a lot of time on it.
00:26:41.406 --> 00:27:01.480
But the, the reason that we ended up spending a lot of time is I think because you got that$50 gift card for completing those two missions, we thought that, because they said there would be rewards for finishing in the top two for certain tracks and then there'd be uh, the top five overall would get awards.
00:27:01.901 --> 00:27:12.351
So I guess in our heads thinking, well, if you got$50 for just completing two missions on your own time, then there's gotta be something real sweet if you
00:27:12.411 --> 00:27:13.071
That's it.
00:27:13.201 --> 00:27:16.191
being the, the top dog in any of these categories.
00:27:16.191 --> 00:27:18.990
So we ended up spending an ungodly amount of time over the next two days.
00:27:19.071 --> 00:27:20.831
I think I put about 13 hours into it.
00:27:21.831 --> 00:27:22.191
I ended
00:27:22.326 --> 00:27:22.615
Yeah.
00:27:22.615 --> 00:27:23.216
It was crazy.
00:27:23.851 --> 00:27:24.871
,so I did end up winning.
00:27:25.311 --> 00:27:26.351
I was number one overall,
00:27:26.746 --> 00:27:27.846
Did you ice?
00:27:27.891 --> 00:27:31.391
got a, uh, piece of paper that said, congratulations.
00:27:32.301 --> 00:27:36.681
Uh, I know no one else see it, but, um, maybe for Kyle's sake, I let him know.
00:27:37.096 --> 00:27:37.316
Woo.
00:27:37.691 --> 00:27:38.431
Oh yeah.
00:27:39.091 --> 00:27:40.631
Little token action there.
00:27:40.661 --> 00:27:40.951
Yeah.
00:27:41.756 --> 00:27:51.385
simple trophy, and um, I, I did get a raspberry pie, which at the time I didn't realize that a couple bucks.
00:27:51.966 --> 00:27:56.105
Uh, actually I just sold it on a Facebook marketplace for$60,
00:27:56.926 --> 00:27:57.466
Oh, nice.
00:27:58.736 --> 00:28:02.666
uh, but yeah, so didn't quite end up getting what I thought.
00:28:02.766 --> 00:28:03.865
But I did learn quite a bit.
00:28:04.166 --> 00:28:11.833
Um, but I do kind of feel like I did waste, uh, Some of the, the golden hours of Cisco live by
00:28:11.883 --> 00:28:12.173
Yeah.
00:28:13.158 --> 00:28:13.738
That's funny.
00:28:14.208 --> 00:28:14.817
Yeah, it was funny.
00:28:14.847 --> 00:28:24.057
Like I would get up and go and just like leave you guys there, like go to do sessions or go do whatever and then I'd come back and you're still sitting at the same spot like an hour or two later.
00:28:24.158 --> 00:28:27.138
I'm like, oh man, this is crazy this is hardcore.
00:28:27.158 --> 00:28:27.938
You guys are crazy.
00:28:28.608 --> 00:28:28.898
Yeah.
00:28:29.168 --> 00:28:31.418
It's the competitor in me cuz I have a leaderboard.
00:28:31.518 --> 00:28:32.337
So you can see
00:28:33.273 --> 00:28:33.623
Right.
00:28:34.413 --> 00:28:34.702
Yeah.
00:28:35.212 --> 00:28:36.663
It's easy to get sucked into.
00:28:36.813 --> 00:28:37.823
Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:38.182 --> 00:28:38.663
I get it.
00:28:39.893 --> 00:28:41.383
Yeah, you're super competitive, man.
00:28:41.383 --> 00:28:43.702
You're just like you're one of the most competitive guys I know.
00:28:43.702 --> 00:28:44.343
You're like, oh.
00:28:44.373 --> 00:28:50.462
Like, once I found out, like there was an actual, like prize at the end of the, at the maze, I was like, oh, that's it.
00:28:50.462 --> 00:28:50.983
He's done.
00:28:51.013 --> 00:28:51.702
Like, that's it.
00:28:51.702 --> 00:28:53.503
And Nate's just along for the ride at this point.
00:28:53.533 --> 00:28:55.133
Like, it's like, oh he's toast.
00:28:55.182 --> 00:29:00.263
These guys are gonna sleep here and you'll see him in the morning, goes shit, but no, that was funny.
00:29:00.513 --> 00:29:04.222
Every time I came back or I texted you, I was like, yo, where you guys at?
00:29:04.222 --> 00:29:07.423
Like, every time I was like, DevNet, I was like, okay, there he is.
00:29:08.202 --> 00:29:08.423
CTF
00:29:08.833 --> 00:29:09.803
Yeah, that was funny.
00:29:10.493 --> 00:29:11.633
But no time well spent.
00:29:11.702 --> 00:29:12.903
I did like the labs as well.
00:29:12.903 --> 00:29:16.212
I thought it was some cool stuff that I'll never get to kind of touch.
00:29:16.233 --> 00:29:19.663
But it was it was neat to at least get some experience with it and, who knows?
00:29:19.753 --> 00:29:20.793
But it was some good time.
00:29:21.113 --> 00:29:21.952
SD wan obviously.
00:29:22.293 --> 00:29:26.623
I did, and then I did some of the data center stuff, nexus dashboard and that kind of thing.
00:29:26.623 --> 00:29:30.692
So it was some good hands-on that I may or may not see in the future, so who knows.
00:29:30.743 --> 00:29:32.143
Then Tuesday night I had another vendor dinner.
00:29:32.163 --> 00:29:35.942
We went to a Brazilian steakhouse, so I had the meat sweats after that.
00:29:36.093 --> 00:29:36.983
That was pretty good.
00:29:37.093 --> 00:29:37.383
Yeah.
00:29:37.613 --> 00:29:38.383
Enjoyed that
00:29:38.413 --> 00:29:40.293
I E party on Tuesday
00:29:40.563 --> 00:29:41.023
Oh yeah.
00:29:41.063 --> 00:29:41.413
Topco.
00:29:42.083 --> 00:29:43.263
That disappointment.
00:29:44.472 --> 00:30:00.546
It, I think it, it goes to show you just like how many people were show, like showed up for this thing, but, um, there was a C C I E and then you could bring a, a guess and they rented out two levels of top golf and there's 220 bays total.
00:30:01.456 --> 00:30:02.395
But I think the third
00:30:02.476 --> 00:30:03.016
Oh, wow.
00:30:03.056 --> 00:30:06.836
one of the levels that they rented out was, is smaller than uh, the others.
00:30:07.056 --> 00:30:15.276
So, you know, say there's like a, they rented out 120 bays for what was probably 2000 people that showed up.
00:30:16.176 --> 00:30:16.395
So,
00:30:16.526 --> 00:30:16.816
Yeah.
00:30:16.865 --> 00:30:29.316
yeah, I mean the reason that what I'm leading to is that uh, I didn't get a chance to golf So cuz they were, cuz I got there maybe 10 minutes after it started and it's just there, everybody, every single
00:30:29.316 --> 00:30:30.336
It was just swamped.
00:30:30.546 --> 00:30:31.796
most had six or
00:30:31.806 --> 00:30:32.026
Uh,
00:30:32.256 --> 00:30:32.596
in it.
00:30:33.375 --> 00:30:34.316
And the food was
00:30:34.436 --> 00:30:34.676
the worst.
00:30:35.336 --> 00:30:35.556
me.
00:30:35.706 --> 00:30:39.766
Like the food that we had um, For your vendor meet.
00:30:39.766 --> 00:30:44.875
That was actually like provided by Topco Cisco brought their own stuff and it was like, it wasn't that great.
00:30:45.406 --> 00:30:45.625
Oh.
00:30:46.246 --> 00:30:46.865
Oh, okay.
00:30:46.926 --> 00:30:48.395
style thing, but it was,
00:30:49.581 --> 00:30:49.821
Interesting.
00:30:50.186 --> 00:30:50.996
yeah, So
00:30:51.561 --> 00:30:51.841
Interesting.
00:30:52.301 --> 00:30:54.841
So did you see any heavy hitters there at the CCCA party?
00:30:55.631 --> 00:30:59.361
Like you said, meeting, meeting some people that we've that we've gotten to know over the years?
00:30:59.946 --> 00:31:00.686
that's a good point.
00:31:00.726 --> 00:31:04.166
I don't think I actually did, I don't remember seeing any like a
00:31:04.201 --> 00:31:04.490
Okay.
00:31:04.546 --> 00:31:08.706
uh, you know, the people that I've seen in videos and had written books.
00:31:09.776 --> 00:31:09.996
no.
00:31:10.796 --> 00:31:18.686
I did see, and maybe this is something we should have talked about idea behind like the pecking order and the, the, size of the badge you have like how many
00:31:19.331 --> 00:31:19.931
Oh yeah.
00:31:19.931 --> 00:31:20.211
Yeah.
00:31:20.365 --> 00:31:28.456
So for anyone who doesn't know, when you go to uh, Cisco Live, you're given a badge with like a lanyard that you put over your neck and.
00:31:29.681 --> 00:31:33.301
By default, it's just kinda like a square that says Cisco Live and your name on it.
00:31:33.721 --> 00:31:42.221
And then they give you, I don't know what they call'em, ribbons, but they're maybe like these one inch things that you kind of just append to this, to your badge.
00:31:42.885 --> 00:31:43.105
Yep.
00:31:43.256 --> 00:31:44.346
It's like a sticky tape.
00:31:44.456 --> 00:31:44.746
Yeah.
00:31:44.851 --> 00:31:46.841
had one that said Champs probably.
00:31:47.061 --> 00:31:47.721
And um,
00:31:48.031 --> 00:31:48.250
Yep.
00:31:48.750 --> 00:31:53.931
And they're different colors, so depending on what you get, you kind of can identify it by a color.
00:31:53.951 --> 00:31:55.091
So I had a champs one.
00:31:55.301 --> 00:31:57.611
There was one for Capture the Flag, so that was green.
00:31:58.351 --> 00:32:02.391
There was a couple, like if you were an ie, you had one, forget what color that was.
00:32:02.721 --> 00:32:03.240
All kinds of
00:32:03.266 --> 00:32:07.706
the reason I bring it up is you actually get one, for every C C I E you have.
00:32:08.730 --> 00:32:10.510
So if you're dual C C I E you get two.
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:18.151
so anyway, it's kind of like a, a joke that the bigger that is is like the higher your rank, like how much close you're alpha male
00:32:19.081 --> 00:32:19.750
right, right.
00:32:20.961 --> 00:32:21.181
So
00:32:21.301 --> 00:32:22.951
Some gorilla shit right there.
00:32:24.561 --> 00:32:31.020
So one of the funny things that Nate and I were doing when we were there was we were pointing out people that had these really long badges.
00:32:31.020 --> 00:32:38.321
Like one guy was a seven time C c I E, so you know, plus he had all the different color ones, so his was like hanging down to his knee, which is
00:32:39.051 --> 00:32:39.401
Right.
00:32:39.551 --> 00:32:40.740
Yeah I think I've seen that.
00:32:40.770 --> 00:32:41.941
Yeah, I think I've seen the picture.
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:42.811
It's kind of crazy.
00:32:42.841 --> 00:32:43.131
Yeah.
00:32:44.131 --> 00:32:44.421
Yeah.
00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:45.541
Yeah.
00:32:45.541 --> 00:32:47.260
There's some alpha mail shit right there.
00:32:47.260 --> 00:32:48.901
There's some crazy stuff going on.
00:32:49.421 --> 00:32:53.861
But there was definitely some obvious heavy hitters there.
00:32:54.171 --> 00:32:56.581
Some really technical guys.
00:32:56.796 --> 00:32:57.776
That's really smart.
00:32:58.006 --> 00:32:59.816
Yeah, some really smart, sharp dudes.
00:33:00.216 --> 00:33:03.576
Speaking of sharp folks it's the first time I met Jason Gooley.
00:33:03.956 --> 00:33:06.885
So Jason Gooley being network automation guy.
00:33:06.966 --> 00:33:10.406
I don't think he actually works for Cisco, but he like, he's like in that space.
00:33:10.666 --> 00:33:11.566
Really cool dude.
00:33:12.026 --> 00:33:13.365
Really enjoyed talking to him.
00:33:13.666 --> 00:33:17.266
And who knows, maybe we'll get him on the show for a comp, for an hour or so, whatever.
00:33:17.365 --> 00:33:19.826
But yeah met Jason was a really good guy.
00:33:20.105 --> 00:33:22.176
I actually bought he was cisco Press author.
00:33:22.316 --> 00:33:24.816
So he's got his own Cisco Automation book out there now.
00:33:24.916 --> 00:33:29.676
So, I'll have to pick that up and give that a shot since I gotta get better at automation.
00:33:29.676 --> 00:33:30.076
Anyway.
00:33:30.076 --> 00:33:31.556
But yeah, Jason Gooey was great.
00:33:32.086 --> 00:33:40.256
Daniel Dibb was another guy, C C I E, like I just met so many people from the Champs program and then they introduced to so many people like, so crazy.
00:33:40.566 --> 00:33:41.786
Just how many people I met.
00:33:41.951 --> 00:33:42.240
yeah.
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:51.065
I, Daniel did, that's interesting cuz he uh, I, I met him, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago through the Cisco Learning Network.
00:33:51.335 --> 00:33:52.424
It's, I don't know what it,
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:53.299
Oh yeah,
00:33:53.565 --> 00:33:55.105
he and I were really active on that.
00:33:56.090 --> 00:33:56.310
And,
00:33:56.630 --> 00:33:56.920
yeah.
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:57.200
Yeah.
00:33:57.378 --> 00:34:00.798
met him in person in, um, Cisco, live in Orlando.
00:34:01.337 --> 00:34:01.928
that's interesting.
00:34:01.988 --> 00:34:03.168
So yes, running
00:34:03.228 --> 00:34:03.518
Yeah.
00:34:03.538 --> 00:34:05.038
Met Daniel Dibb, great guy.
00:34:05.168 --> 00:34:07.008
So yeah, there's a bunch of people there.
00:34:07.378 --> 00:34:08.007
Keith Bar.
00:34:08.157 --> 00:34:10.577
Yeah, that was when was That That, was Wednesday.
00:34:10.657 --> 00:34:12.478
That's a good segue going into Wednesday.
00:34:13.817 --> 00:34:16.577
Let me tell you, that was another oh shit moment for me.
00:34:16.708 --> 00:34:23.027
Cause CBT Nuggets didn't have an actual booth there, they were just kind of hanging out in like one of the open spaces or whatever.
00:34:23.728 --> 00:34:33.587
And so another good friend of mine beard it, dad, who is another content creator in this space he was his first Cisco Live as well, so it was our, obviously our first time meeting each other.
00:34:34.208 --> 00:34:37.027
He was on the show a while back, so I'm gonna go listen to that.
00:34:37.057 --> 00:34:37.628
He's really cool.
00:34:37.628 --> 00:34:38.627
Check out his YouTube stuff.
00:34:39.237 --> 00:34:40.097
But yeah, he.
00:34:40.643 --> 00:34:40.862
he.
00:34:40.862 --> 00:34:41.302
was there.
00:34:41.752 --> 00:34:45.472
He works for an I S P in like the Pacific Northwest, like Oregon, where he lives.
00:34:45.612 --> 00:34:47.552
And they're mainly a Juniper shop.
00:34:47.612 --> 00:34:52.592
But he went and took a couple classes and walked around and that kind of thing.
00:34:52.592 --> 00:34:54.952
So I met him there and then he's like, where you at?
00:34:54.952 --> 00:34:56.002
I was like, I'm trying to, whatever.
00:34:56.002 --> 00:34:59.762
And he's like, oh, come on over to, I forget what it was, town square, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:00.102 --> 00:35:02.802
And he's like, oh, I'm hanging with Keith Barker and this and that.
00:35:02.802 --> 00:35:04.373
I was like, oh shit, I gotta go over there and, whatever.
00:35:04.632 --> 00:35:09.902
So I go over there and it took me forever cause I was actually looking for a booth, like I was actually looking for an actual booth.
00:35:09.982 --> 00:35:14.382
I didn't realize they were just hanging there, like out in the open with couches and the chairs and shit.
00:35:15.042 --> 00:35:17.302
And so I'm like walking around, I'm like, where are you?
00:35:17.302 --> 00:35:19.123
He's like, we're by the Presidio, whatever.
00:35:19.123 --> 00:35:20.042
And I was like, I'm here.
00:35:20.082 --> 00:35:22.002
I don't see a C B T nugget spoof anywhere.
00:35:22.002 --> 00:35:26.402
And then I finally, I was like, oh, I'm looking in the wrong, they were hiding in plain, in, in clear sight.
00:35:26.582 --> 00:35:27.842
So they were right out there.
00:35:27.842 --> 00:35:32.862
And yeah, I got to meet Keith Barker, which is another one that I've been learning from for.
00:35:32.917 --> 00:35:33.197
yeah.
00:35:33.913 --> 00:35:35.612
10 plus years, 15 plus years.
00:35:35.802 --> 00:35:36.652
It's insanity.
00:35:36.672 --> 00:35:37.772
And he was so cool.
00:35:37.952 --> 00:35:40.692
He lives in Vegas, so like it was nothing for him to jump there.
00:35:40.692 --> 00:35:42.452
And I was like, that's really cool.
00:35:42.792 --> 00:35:46.522
So he was talking to me and he's actually, he asked, he wants to come on the show.
00:35:46.742 --> 00:35:49.002
So we'll be having him shortly, as soon as we can get scheduled together.
00:35:49.002 --> 00:35:49.202
Man.
00:35:49.202 --> 00:35:51.562
I'm jonesing to get Keith to get to Keith on here.
00:35:51.807 --> 00:35:52.027
few
00:35:52.152 --> 00:35:53.322
He's really cool guy.
00:35:53.887 --> 00:36:00.917
met or watched uh, instructional videos on that you feel like, man, these guys truly like breathe this stuff.
00:36:01.117 --> 00:36:01.407
Yeah.
00:36:01.977 --> 00:36:02.197
he
00:36:02.257 --> 00:36:02.477
Yep.
00:36:02.937 --> 00:36:03.837
He is one of them.
00:36:03.877 --> 00:36:05.717
much fun anytime he talks about these things.
00:36:05.977 --> 00:36:06.197
Yep.
00:36:06.837 --> 00:36:07.157
Absolutely.
00:36:07.587 --> 00:36:07.877
Yeah.
00:36:07.877 --> 00:36:11.957
We talked for Like 15 minutes and I was just like I was like, dude, do you know who you are?
00:36:12.027 --> 00:36:13.397
He's like, ah, you're giving me too much credit.
00:36:13.457 --> 00:36:13.877
I'm like no.
00:36:13.897 --> 00:36:14.837
Do you know who you are?
00:36:14.907 --> 00:36:23.983
Like, like, I literally watched you for 15 years of over various, my CC n a, my CCNA security, the Palo Alto stuff.
00:36:24.023 --> 00:36:32.783
I did, like, I watched all of his stuff that he that he did on that, and he was a major part of me passing a lot of my stuff, and it's just like to meet him in person was just so cool.
00:36:32.783 --> 00:36:33.583
It was so cool.
00:36:33.653 --> 00:36:33.943
Cool.
00:36:34.408 --> 00:36:40.128
I assume that they love it because, I mean, it's not like they're, you know, the type of people that have paparazzis or something like that.
00:36:40.128 --> 00:36:42.969
But when they come to Cisco live, they, they must feel like rock stars.
00:36:43.315 --> 00:36:44.034
I mean, because
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:46.250
They have to, I would think so.
00:36:46.434 --> 00:36:48.268
of the people that walk there know who they are.
00:36:48.469 --> 00:36:49.388
I mean, like, it's just
00:36:50.068 --> 00:36:50.358
Yeah.
00:36:50.568 --> 00:36:50.918
Right.
00:36:51.428 --> 00:36:52.638
Yeah, exactly.
00:36:53.348 --> 00:36:53.638
Yeah.
00:36:53.638 --> 00:36:59.338
So I met up with Keith, I met up with I, I heard Anthony se Cora's voice as I was walking.
00:36:59.538 --> 00:37:01.138
I couldn't tell where he was coming from.
00:37:01.259 --> 00:37:04.778
I couldn't see him, but like, I heard his voice and I was like, oh, I gotta get to him.
00:37:04.878 --> 00:37:07.338
And then I never got back to him, but I never actually saw him.
00:37:07.498 --> 00:37:11.268
I just heard his voice out in the crowd somewhere and I couldn't pin where it was coming from.
00:37:11.268 --> 00:37:13.759
But he's another one that I listened to for a decade or more.
00:37:13.759 --> 00:37:15.318
Anthony he's a good dude too.
00:37:15.338 --> 00:37:17.098
chance to talk to him, but yeah, I did.
00:37:17.478 --> 00:37:22.618
He was standing right next to me when I went to the Cisco store cuz uh, it was, uh, meet the author.
00:37:22.658 --> 00:37:22.878
Oh,
00:37:23.759 --> 00:37:23.978
So
00:37:23.978 --> 00:37:24.398
oh, nice.
00:37:24.538 --> 00:37:27.058
for, I don't know, all day several Anyway.
00:37:28.098 --> 00:37:28.388
Okay.
00:37:28.513 --> 00:37:30.833
have a new Cisco press book out or something like that.
00:37:31.013 --> 00:37:35.233
But uh, yeah, he was just there, you know, signing books and, uh, saying
00:37:35.253 --> 00:37:35.983
Hanging out.
00:37:36.973 --> 00:37:37.193
Yep.
00:37:37.333 --> 00:37:38.114
So that was cool.
00:37:39.173 --> 00:37:44.753
Again, Beed it dad I met Lexi, or some of you may know her as Track Pacer on Twitter.
00:37:45.123 --> 00:37:47.123
She's part of the auto Network engineering podcast.
00:37:47.423 --> 00:37:49.252
Uh, Met her, she was great.
00:37:49.432 --> 00:37:50.172
She was on the show.
00:37:50.192 --> 00:37:51.702
She was on this show a while back.
00:37:51.722 --> 00:37:52.782
So go listen to that.
00:37:53.112 --> 00:37:58.402
Tim Bertino, which is another art of network engineering co-host he was there, so, I got to meet him.
00:37:58.972 --> 00:38:02.922
But yeah, it was all, cause we're all champs, so it was kind of cool to see these people, kind of in person.
00:38:03.062 --> 00:38:05.922
So, but yeah, it was really cool to meet some real dudes.
00:38:05.982 --> 00:38:07.502
And it was and ladies obviously.
00:38:07.552 --> 00:38:16.202
There was a lady there that I that I knew from the online space Rika she rolls her RS when she says her name, but I can't roll my Rs, so I'm just gonna say her name is Rika.
00:38:16.222 --> 00:38:19.722
But she came from Finland, I wanna say.
00:38:19.902 --> 00:38:21.748
And it was like, It.
00:38:21.827 --> 00:38:26.667
I was talking to her Sunday, I think Sunday night before we went to the top golf, just shooting shit.
00:38:26.847 --> 00:38:39.147
And she actually makes it like a vacation for her since I think it's like a, it's almost, it's like a 20 hour trip for her to get to from Finland to, I think she flew to LA and then lA over to Vegas.
00:38:39.807 --> 00:38:42.527
It was like a 20 hour trip or some crazy nonsense.
00:38:42.667 --> 00:38:51.377
And so, Cisco Live is like the first week of her vacation and then she go, I think she was going to Florida for like two or three weeks and then flying back.
00:38:51.397 --> 00:38:55.627
So like she had to make it worth her while to come to the States and, that kind of thing.
00:38:55.647 --> 00:38:57.587
So like, just hearing her story was crazy.
00:38:57.727 --> 00:39:02.277
Daniel Dibb, he's a, another one that's not I wanna say he's from, I forget where he's from.
00:39:02.277 --> 00:39:03.597
It's, I, he's not in the States.
00:39:03.977 --> 00:39:09.797
But he's another one that like, these people travel like ridiculous numbers of hours to come to Cisco live.
00:39:09.797 --> 00:39:13.397
And I was just like, to me that's like the f like a fascinating story.
00:39:13.397 --> 00:39:14.518
Like I can't get enough of that.
00:39:14.547 --> 00:39:18.927
It's so crazy Like, it's just insane to see how far these people come from.
00:39:18.987 --> 00:39:19.788
And it was cool.
00:39:20.367 --> 00:39:26.788
Zoe, she was I was in with her at Tech Field Day and she's a champ as well, so I saw quite a bit of her over the week.
00:39:27.447 --> 00:39:30.482
She's from, Over the, across the pond somewhere.
00:39:30.542 --> 00:39:33.143
She has like an I Ireland accent, but she's not from there.
00:39:33.143 --> 00:39:36.663
Like, she's over, I wanna say some, somewhere in the uk.
00:39:37.082 --> 00:39:38.992
But yeah, and she was, she's actually pregnant.
00:39:39.132 --> 00:39:44.302
So like traveling that much with child is I'm sure not an easy task.
00:39:44.643 --> 00:39:47.582
So like, it's just crazy to see how far these people come from.
00:39:47.582 --> 00:39:48.942
And it was great to meet everybody.
00:39:48.992 --> 00:39:49.893
It was really something.
00:39:51.002 --> 00:39:51.292
Yeah.
00:39:51.752 --> 00:40:03.182
And um, yeah, I noticed that's something you were doing too, is this, um, people go to Cisco live and they're just 100% focused on learning and the technical aspect of stuff.
00:40:03.643 --> 00:40:05.982
But the social networking part of that is huge.
00:40:05.982 --> 00:40:07.262
There's so many people you can get
00:40:07.357 --> 00:40:08.927
It's so crazy.
00:40:10.522 --> 00:40:13.732
yeah, I mean, the old adage is not always what you know, so, you
00:40:13.842 --> 00:40:14.132
Amen.
00:40:14.217 --> 00:40:14.498
you too.
00:40:14.498 --> 00:40:20.144
Just, uh, if you're, if you get your name out these people, uh, these people have a lot of reach in our industry.
00:40:21.244 --> 00:40:21.464
So
00:40:21.659 --> 00:40:22.589
Yeah, for sure.
00:40:22.801 --> 00:40:25.201
you, I mean, 10 years from now, you
00:40:25.317 --> 00:40:26.366
Some of the other Champs.
00:40:26.621 --> 00:40:31.081
uh, you know, just going to Cisco Live opened up some door that you're not yet know of, but it
00:40:31.317 --> 00:40:31.541
Yeah.
00:40:31.541 --> 00:40:31.757
Right.
00:40:32.507 --> 00:40:32.797
Yeah.
00:40:32.826 --> 00:40:36.797
Some of the guys I met from just the Champ stuff, like Mike Johnson, he worked for Presidio.
00:40:37.576 --> 00:40:40.126
Dan Kocher, he works for IP Fabric that kind of thing.
00:40:40.126 --> 00:40:45.876
So like there's some heavy hitters out there that that are part of this Champs program and just, meeting them in person, just kind of shooting shit.
00:40:45.976 --> 00:40:51.396
And, you know, Jordan from, from NetBox um, hanging out with him at at one of the events that was cool.
00:40:51.396 --> 00:40:54.346
And just, sales, some of them are sales guys or sales engineers.
00:40:54.496 --> 00:40:56.156
Most of them are tech, tech geeks.
00:40:56.156 --> 00:40:59.516
And it was funny I'm gonna steal this from now on.
00:41:00.126 --> 00:41:04.766
I dunno if I told you this before, but our Cisco rep, Tim he coined Cisco live.
00:41:04.817 --> 00:41:06.456
It's like, nerd summer camp.
00:41:06.676 --> 00:41:08.236
So I'm gonna call it that from now on.
00:41:08.336 --> 00:41:16.817
So, Cause that's exactly what it's literally like, it's a summer camp for nerds and just like you're among like-minded people and they, you just can't get enough of it.
00:41:17.096 --> 00:41:22.096
I can't explain how like the social aspect of it is just, it's just such a huge part of it.
00:41:22.116 --> 00:41:26.297
And that world of solutions is like, that world is your, literally your oyster.
00:41:26.317 --> 00:41:32.656
And you could do you could meet as many or little people as you want, but I would say more the merrier.
00:41:33.126 --> 00:41:42.386
and I did feel this Cisco, I was a little bit different from me because the previous times that I had gone, I was an employee Evolve ip, which, you know, no one's really ever heard of.
00:41:42.486 --> 00:41:44.146
Pretty small in the grand scheme of things.
00:41:44.507 --> 00:41:48.292
I felt like I was treated so differently, this time around when I
00:41:48.332 --> 00:41:49.362
Cause she works for Disney.
00:41:49.592 --> 00:41:49.882
Yeah.
00:41:49.972 --> 00:41:54.332
like when they look at me Disney Plus and Hulu, like, wait a second, well come here for a second.
00:41:54.332 --> 00:41:55.332
Let me lemme
00:41:55.552 --> 00:41:55.902
right?
00:41:55.902 --> 00:41:56.182
Yeah.
00:41:57.572 --> 00:41:57.862
Yeah.
00:41:58.143 --> 00:41:58.502
Probably a drink.
00:41:58.692 --> 00:41:58.982
Yeah.
00:41:59.512 --> 00:42:03.092
AWS booth, I guess they didn't see my badge.
00:42:03.192 --> 00:42:08.812
And one of the first questions they asked is like, what's your uh, yearly budget with aws?
00:42:08.812 --> 00:42:13.288
And I said it was about a billion dollars And She goes, well, a million.
00:42:13.357 --> 00:42:13.647
Yeah.
00:42:13.647 --> 00:42:14.447
That's, that's a lot.
00:42:14.507 --> 00:42:16.607
No, a billion billion
00:42:16.682 --> 00:42:17.712
Billy with a b,
00:42:18.987 --> 00:42:19.207
Oh.
00:42:19.248 --> 00:42:20.407
I was like, who do you work for?
00:42:20.947 --> 00:42:22.387
Oh, Oh,
00:42:22.592 --> 00:42:22.812
yes.
00:42:23.447 --> 00:42:24.467
And then they, they knew,
00:42:24.782 --> 00:42:25.132
Right.
00:42:25.132 --> 00:42:25.652
The sway.
00:42:25.712 --> 00:42:25.932
Mr.
00:42:26.002 --> 00:42:26.292
Batt.
00:42:26.632 --> 00:42:26.852
Yes.
00:42:26.852 --> 00:42:28.492
Come over here with comfy chairs.
00:42:28.842 --> 00:42:29.132
Yeah.
00:42:29.137 --> 00:42:31.737
knew my solutions architect right off the oh, they were like,
00:42:31.992 --> 00:42:32.452
Oh, really?
00:42:32.452 --> 00:42:32.732
Okay.
00:42:33.207 --> 00:42:33.877
talks to you guys.
00:42:33.907 --> 00:42:34.197
Yeah.
00:42:34.217 --> 00:42:34.437
Oh.
00:42:34.437 --> 00:42:35.397
I talk to Carl all the time.
00:42:35.492 --> 00:42:36.992
Oh, that's that's funny.
00:42:38.972 --> 00:42:40.652
I have Carl on speed dial, actually.
00:42:40.697 --> 00:42:41.538
like, do you need anything?
00:42:42.268 --> 00:42:43.197
Yeah, that's pretty good.
00:42:43.867 --> 00:42:45.147
Yeah, no I agree, man.
00:42:45.147 --> 00:42:49.727
The people that you meet is just as good as any aspect of Cisco Live at all.
00:42:49.827 --> 00:42:56.677
I really think you can do some damage and really get to spread your wings there for, as many people as you talk to and whatnot.
00:42:56.817 --> 00:43:06.597
So, and I don't wanna toot my own horn, but Sunday night before we kind of have, we had that little preview of the world of solutions before it opened up Monday, I got my picture taken with the Lombardi trophy.
00:43:07.288 --> 00:43:08.167
So that was kind of cool.
00:43:08.347 --> 00:43:10.047
So that was that, I skipped the line.
00:43:10.047 --> 00:43:10.847
Went right up there.
00:43:10.847 --> 00:43:12.927
Cause we had first access, the first crack at it.
00:43:12.947 --> 00:43:14.647
It was, I was like, yep, that's pretty cool.
00:43:14.748 --> 00:43:15.447
So that was you know,
00:43:15.637 --> 00:43:16.107
about it.
00:43:16.347 --> 00:43:16.788
I stayed.
00:43:16.927 --> 00:43:18.387
all right, I'll just, I see it.
00:43:18.527 --> 00:43:19.387
I'm pretty close to it.
00:43:19.467 --> 00:43:20.147
I don't need my picture.
00:43:20.748 --> 00:43:21.038
Yeah.
00:43:21.038 --> 00:43:21.277
Right.
00:43:21.277 --> 00:43:22.237
The old skip aoo.
00:43:22.307 --> 00:43:23.197
Yeah, I don't need that.
00:43:23.197 --> 00:43:23.437
Yeah.
00:43:23.667 --> 00:43:24.277
That kind of thing.
00:43:24.277 --> 00:43:24.917
So that was cool.
00:43:25.177 --> 00:43:27.757
And then Wednesday night is usually the customer appreciation night.
00:43:28.027 --> 00:43:32.137
Alex, I know constant aren't your thing, but I walked over our technical engineer.
00:43:32.237 --> 00:43:32.817
Tim was there.
00:43:32.917 --> 00:43:37.137
He was buying drinks for people at one of the casino bars before.
00:43:37.742 --> 00:43:38.842
And he sent me a text.
00:43:38.862 --> 00:43:39.762
He said, come on over.
00:43:39.942 --> 00:43:42.922
So I walked over you and a couple other, his clients were hanging there.
00:43:42.942 --> 00:43:46.272
So it was, we talked shop and had some drinks and then we all walked over together.
00:43:47.172 --> 00:43:54.182
They, so they rented out Allegiant Stadium, which is obviously Alex, you're a football guy, that's where your boys play Raiders.
00:43:54.762 --> 00:44:00.102
So they rented out leading the stadium again, food, drink the whole deal, blah, blah, blah.
00:44:00.322 --> 00:44:04.072
And then that night Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton played.
00:44:04.292 --> 00:44:06.272
So for those of you that don't know, they are a married couple.
00:44:06.382 --> 00:44:13.382
Gwen Stefani being the pop star she is, and Blake being the country star that he is Gwen went on first and I'll tell you what, she really did well.
00:44:13.502 --> 00:44:14.742
I was like, wow, this is crazy.
00:44:14.772 --> 00:44:16.502
Like she can, she still got it.
00:44:16.542 --> 00:44:21.202
I mean, she was she was with no doubt back in the early nineties and or should say mid nineties, whatever.
00:44:21.462 --> 00:44:25.250
And she went on her own solo career and obviously Blake with his country stuff.
00:44:25.269 --> 00:44:28.519
But But yeah, Gwen was really good and I've seen Blake before.
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.250
The wife's a big country fan, so, we've seen him as he when he comes around here.
00:44:32.309 --> 00:44:34.669
So, so I knew, obviously knew both of them.
00:44:34.669 --> 00:44:40.039
They put, they both put on really good shows and we had all the food and drink we could handle and then we walked back and that was fun.
00:44:40.344 --> 00:44:53.190
And, and that's another thing, it just kind of goes to show you how big an event Cisco live is because people that you have know nothing about networking or Cisco can appreciate what customer appreciation events are.
00:44:53.290 --> 00:45:00.500
And I think we talked about this before, but um, Orlando that I went to, they rented out Universal Studios.
00:45:00.500 --> 00:45:01.340
Like we And,
00:45:01.965 --> 00:45:02.315
Right.
00:45:02.625 --> 00:45:02.915
Yeah.
00:45:03.451 --> 00:45:05.620
Dragons has been one of the
00:45:05.945 --> 00:45:06.235
Cool.
00:45:06.640 --> 00:45:08.060
um, blink 180 2.
00:45:08.181 --> 00:45:09.260
I mean, it's a really
00:45:09.306 --> 00:45:09.965
That's nice.
00:45:10.730 --> 00:45:17.580
like world renowned concerts and there's just for us included in, you know, the price of the ticket,
00:45:17.860 --> 00:45:20.431
a couple years ago, Weezer was there the Foo Fighters.
00:45:20.490 --> 00:45:23.710
So they've had a bunch of really top names coming through.
00:45:23.710 --> 00:45:28.170
And by the way, I just saw Blink 180 2 in Hershey, like, a week before I went to Cisco live.
00:45:28.170 --> 00:45:28.850
And they were awesome.
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:30.570
They're just, they're coming back.
00:45:30.570 --> 00:45:31.610
They're back with a vengeance.
00:45:31.681 --> 00:45:31.971
Yeah.
00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:33.290
So, no, it's all good.
00:45:33.550 --> 00:45:34.440
Yeah, so that was fun.
00:45:34.780 --> 00:45:43.350
And then I wanna get into Thursday, cuz Thursday was by far the most interesting day for me, although it wrapped up early, obviously I think the world of solutions closes at like one o'clock.
00:45:43.931 --> 00:45:46.471
So there's sessions in the morning and then.
00:45:47.556 --> 00:45:51.335
World of Solutions closes up at one o'clock and then it dies out from there.
00:45:51.765 --> 00:45:59.685
It's, it was funny to see like all these people come to Cisco live on Thursday with their luggage cuz a lot of people fly out Thursday night, that kind of thing.
00:45:59.826 --> 00:46:02.205
And so they check out their hotel rooms and don't have anywhere to put it.
00:46:02.346 --> 00:46:05.885
So they just put it in this one massive hallway down by one of the doors.
00:46:06.286 --> 00:46:07.645
It's just like, wow.
00:46:07.645 --> 00:46:08.245
There's a lot.
00:46:08.750 --> 00:46:09.040
Yeah.
00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:13.280
Nate had luggage and that, that was like the first thought Wednesday night.
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:17.880
It's like, oh, what are we gonna do with your luggage the entire time until you wait till your flight?
00:46:17.900 --> 00:46:18.480
And then, Yeah.
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.800
it's like, oh, they thought of that, which they should Makes sense.
00:46:23.125 --> 00:46:23.415
Yeah.
00:46:23.415 --> 00:46:24.536
Let's put it over here.
00:46:24.645 --> 00:46:24.935
Yeah.
00:46:26.235 --> 00:46:37.505
So backing up to Wednesday night at the bar with Tim he said that he walked right up and right up to the cuz brother, I don't know if you get the full.
00:46:38.610 --> 00:46:40.380
For the full pass at Cisco live there.
00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:42.661
There's various tiers of tickets at Cisco Live.
00:46:42.681 --> 00:46:50.540
You get the full pass you get a free cert exam, a crack at a free cert exam, any Cisco cert you want.
00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:51.260
I think it's anyone.
00:46:51.260 --> 00:46:54.340
I don't know what the i e or if there's any restrictions around that.
00:46:54.411 --> 00:46:59.550
C D E written, which I, think is the most expensive of like the non proctored lab exam.
00:46:59.650 --> 00:47:00.110
So yeah.
00:47:00.411 --> 00:47:01.190
Anyone that you could,
00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:01.520
Yeah.
00:47:01.980 --> 00:47:05.650
So you, any, anyone that you feel you can take a crack at.
00:47:05.710 --> 00:47:12.750
If you have the full pass, you get a crack, and that's on the second I think it's the second floor of the Mandalay Bay in one of the rooms.
00:47:13.130 --> 00:47:18.431
And so, Wednesday night, Tim was like, yeah, I just I didn't have anything scheduled.
00:47:18.471 --> 00:47:27.010
I just walked up there and the lady asked if I had if I had something scheduled, and I said, and he wink, wink nudged it and be like, yeah, I have it scheduled and she like, played along with him.
00:47:27.090 --> 00:47:28.650
I was like, oh yeah what are you taking here?
00:47:28.681 --> 00:47:29.170
Blah, blah, blah.
00:47:29.170 --> 00:47:30.130
And he's like, oh, security.
00:47:30.570 --> 00:47:31.850
C cmp, security core.
00:47:31.870 --> 00:47:33.370
And she's like, oh.
00:47:34.020 --> 00:47:36.050
She's like, oh, I don't see your name in the system here.
00:47:36.050 --> 00:47:36.690
What's your name?
00:47:36.690 --> 00:47:37.170
Blah, blah, blah.
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.150
They played this like game back and forth, like, whatever.
00:47:40.150 --> 00:47:41.471
And he's like, yada, yada, yada.
00:47:41.770 --> 00:47:45.590
And long story short, 15 minutes later he was sitting in a seat taking a test.
00:47:45.850 --> 00:47:48.390
And I was like, oh shit, I wonder if I should do that.
00:47:48.390 --> 00:47:51.710
Like, cause I originally wanted to do one and then I dropped it.
00:47:51.710 --> 00:47:53.350
Cause I was like, ah, it's my first Cisco Live.
00:47:53.431 --> 00:47:55.190
I didn't really know like, what to expect.
00:47:55.190 --> 00:47:57.510
Like, I didn't wanna put that, like, extra pressure, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:57.540 --> 00:47:58.310
It's a free test.
00:47:58.411 --> 00:47:59.471
How much pressure could it be?
00:47:59.471 --> 00:48:03.000
But you know, you always kind of feel shitty if you pass, or I should say if you fail, right?
00:48:03.030 --> 00:48:03.721
That kind of thing.
00:48:04.221 --> 00:48:09.100
So, so then I didn't I didn't get the email from Cisco to actually say, Hey, let's schedule your time.
00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:09.911
That, that is true.
00:48:09.951 --> 00:48:11.661
I did not get the email which whatever.
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.510
So then after hearing that Wednesday night, I was like, man I wonder if I could do that.
00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:17.840
Just go up like Thursday morning and go take one.
00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:23.040
Cuz my local community college here approached me about teaching their Cisco Networking Academy.
00:48:23.411 --> 00:48:25.810
But in order to do that, I have to be Cisco certified.
00:48:25.810 --> 00:48:28.730
And all mine expired in 2020 as most of you know.
00:48:29.130 --> 00:48:33.190
so, so I get up Thursday, breakfast, the whole deal.
00:48:33.730 --> 00:48:36.250
I had a session that was my one session on Thursday.
00:48:36.250 --> 00:48:36.770
It was in the morning.
00:48:36.790 --> 00:48:38.210
It was like eight 30, whatever it was.
00:48:38.630 --> 00:48:39.570
And so I did that.
00:48:40.070 --> 00:48:43.931
And then I was like, him and the hall and I was like, ah, like should I, shouldn't I, blah, blah.
00:48:44.230 --> 00:48:50.040
So I went up and and I saw my buddy Gerard he was walking out And he was like, oh yeah, blah, blah.
00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:53.880
We, we shot the shit for a few minutes and I just kinda like hung there and loitered.
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.840
I was like, I hoping somebody comes up to me like, Hey, can I help you out?
00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:59.240
And then I like, explain my situation.
00:48:59.340 --> 00:49:02.280
Cuz I didn't wanna walk up to the lady and be like, she's like, Hey we're, what's your name?
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:02.920
Who are you scheduled for?
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:03.760
I'm like, I'm really not.
00:49:03.830 --> 00:49:07.721
Like, I didn't wanna be that guy, So the one guy walked up and said, Hey, can I help you?
00:49:07.721 --> 00:49:09.040
I'm like, yeah, here's my situation.
00:49:09.110 --> 00:49:10.640
Like I have a full pass.
00:49:11.080 --> 00:49:12.240
I didn't schedule anything.
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.020
But I'd like to take one, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:15.020 --> 00:49:16.580
And he's like, yeah, just go up to that.
00:49:16.580 --> 00:49:21.270
Just go up to the lady back there and tell her that you didn't get an email and, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:21.270 --> 00:49:23.190
She, and she'll see what she can do for you.
00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:23.990
So I was like, okay.
00:49:24.210 --> 00:49:25.931
So I walked up and I said, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:26.810
Gave her the whole story.
00:49:27.150 --> 00:49:28.130
And she's like, yeah.
00:49:28.130 --> 00:49:29.570
She goes, is this your first Cisco Live?
00:49:29.610 --> 00:49:30.250
I said, yeah, it is.
00:49:30.250 --> 00:49:30.810
She goes, okay.
00:49:31.030 --> 00:49:32.210
She goes, I'll do it for you now.
00:49:32.210 --> 00:49:34.770
But she goes, don't make a habit of it, like, schedule it in the future.
00:49:34.870 --> 00:49:36.370
And I was like, oh yeah, that's no problem.
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:37.420
Like, I totally get it.
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.701
And so she's like, all right, gimme like 15 minutes.
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:41.540
You can come back and you should be in the system.
00:49:41.540 --> 00:49:42.140
You're ready to go.
00:49:42.260 --> 00:49:42.940
I was like, oh shit.
00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:43.340
All right.
00:49:43.340 --> 00:49:43.500
Cool.
00:49:44.030 --> 00:49:44.190
Thanks.
00:49:44.810 --> 00:49:52.250
So I 15 minutes later came back up scheduled my, I had my CCC NNA scheduled just to, get something under the books or under my belt.
00:49:52.790 --> 00:49:54.701
And 15 minutes later I was in a lab.
00:49:54.980 --> 00:49:57.840
I was in a room testing and I took it and I passed it.
00:49:58.020 --> 00:50:01.184
And now I'm C C N A certified that was kind of cool.
00:50:01.324 --> 00:50:02.875
So, I took one off the cuff.
00:50:02.954 --> 00:50:05.434
I took a cold, didn't study a lick for it, didn't do anything.
00:50:05.434 --> 00:50:11.714
And I went in there and that funny thing, the, my weakest subject is actually automation, obviously.
00:50:11.714 --> 00:50:13.375
I, we've talked about that here.
00:50:13.794 --> 00:50:16.494
And I got a 90% on that part of the test.
00:50:16.554 --> 00:50:17.294
90%.
00:50:17.454 --> 00:50:18.134
I was like, oh, cool.
00:50:18.134 --> 00:50:19.174
That makes me feel pretty good.
00:50:19.234 --> 00:50:20.134
So, so, yeah.
00:50:20.134 --> 00:50:21.964
So I walked out of there Thursday with a ccna.
00:50:22.065 --> 00:50:23.125
So that was kind of cool.
00:50:23.605 --> 00:50:24.274
There you go.
00:50:24.824 --> 00:50:27.594
Does that give you more confidence in teaching the exam though?
00:50:28.644 --> 00:50:29.594
teach, teaching
00:50:29.594 --> 00:50:29.884
Yeah.
00:50:30.125 --> 00:50:30.364
Yeah.
00:50:30.434 --> 00:50:30.724
Yeah.
00:50:31.324 --> 00:50:31.804
Teaching the class.
00:50:31.904 --> 00:50:32.194
Yeah.
00:50:32.404 --> 00:50:32.984
Hey, whatever.
00:50:33.105 --> 00:50:33.824
Don't give it a shot
00:50:33.954 --> 00:50:34.294
if you
00:50:34.454 --> 00:50:35.065
that kind of thing.
00:50:35.065 --> 00:50:36.384
There's already one teacher there.
00:50:37.214 --> 00:50:37.504
Yeah.
00:50:37.855 --> 00:50:38.144
.Yeah.
00:50:38.284 --> 00:50:40.864
It went for 30 to about 35, so it's all good.
00:50:41.364 --> 00:50:44.634
But my original goal this year was the CCMP Security Corps.
00:50:44.774 --> 00:50:52.444
So, now I got back to that, so, but yeah, I passed the passed the ccna and then Thursday night, me and Gerard, I hooked up with Gerard after the test.
00:50:52.625 --> 00:50:56.324
And him and I went down to Fremont Street, which is like old timey Vegas.
00:50:56.544 --> 00:51:01.284
We took an Uber down there and that was an interesting time down there in Fremont Street.
00:51:01.284 --> 00:51:09.681
We were there early enough that, like, the side shows didn't quite come out yet, but we saw a few There was some real interesting folks down there at like four in the afternoon, bro.
00:51:10.681 --> 00:51:12.400
I was like, oh man, here we go.
00:51:12.451 --> 00:51:30.120
So we went down there got some barbecue, got something to eat just kind of walked, for those that don't know, Fremont street's, like only like three blocks long and it's closed to traffic, so you just like walk on the street and whatever, and there's casinos and you can duck in and play casinos or there's, beers and or whatever bars, that kind of thing.
00:51:30.701 --> 00:51:32.431
Different kind of shops and whatnot.
00:51:32.690 --> 00:51:36.480
And so Gerard in and got his wife something at one of the shops.
00:51:36.540 --> 00:51:43.411
And I was hanging out there and and like you could see like some of the, like there was a Michael Jackson in person there dancing there on the sidewalk.
00:51:43.710 --> 00:51:44.570
So that was cool.
00:51:44.931 --> 00:51:46.010
I was watching him a little bit.
00:51:46.010 --> 00:51:49.460
And then there was a guy in dressing, like a Chucky doll mask.
00:51:49.560 --> 00:51:50.971
So he was doing his thing.
00:51:51.310 --> 00:51:53.610
And then you had, Some ladies that were there.
00:51:54.300 --> 00:51:58.161
The one was like in like a Catwoman, like uniform with the whip and the whole deal.
00:51:58.221 --> 00:52:00.620
And she was like trying to get guys to come over and, whatever.
00:52:00.721 --> 00:52:01.820
And I was like, oh man.
00:52:02.020 --> 00:52:02.440
you're,
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:04.530
Yeah, I was like, oh no, and.
00:52:04.890 --> 00:52:06.370
on the hook for tip.
00:52:06.855 --> 00:52:07.715
Oh, funny thing.
00:52:07.935 --> 00:52:09.076
So that's where I'm going with this.
00:52:09.135 --> 00:52:10.875
So Gerard comes outta the thing, right?
00:52:12.096 --> 00:52:13.115
And he listens to his podcast.
00:52:13.265 --> 00:52:14.635
He's gonna shake his head in shame.
00:52:14.745 --> 00:52:27.865
I know he is, but he We, he comes outta the thing and we start walking towards the other end, and there's two ladies there like our age, and they're in the full like showgirls, like big feather tail suits and the whole deal, and blah, blah, blah.
00:52:28.286 --> 00:52:30.786
And so they see us from a mile away.
00:52:31.005 --> 00:52:32.315
So they're like, come on over.
00:52:32.335 --> 00:52:35.945
And Jordan's like, okay So we walk over there and they're like, yeah, get your picture taken.
00:52:36.105 --> 00:52:36.865
I was like, nah, I'm good.
00:52:36.865 --> 00:52:39.576
Like, I was like I don't need that kind of negativity right now.
00:52:39.605 --> 00:52:41.215
Just like, I know what's gonna happen here.
00:52:41.215 --> 00:52:43.125
Like, and then Gerard's like, yeah, I'll take a picture.
00:52:43.306 --> 00:52:44.205
So I'm like, all right.
00:52:44.346 --> 00:52:46.445
So I get my, I get his phone.
00:52:46.826 --> 00:52:49.405
And he's like, he's in between the two ladies and blah, blah.
00:52:49.405 --> 00:52:52.695
And they take a picture and he gets on and he's like, ah, you know what's, you know?
00:52:52.745 --> 00:52:54.445
and she's like, that'll be 80 bucks.
00:52:55.025 --> 00:52:56.925
And he's like, what?
00:52:57.875 --> 00:52:58.165
Yeah.
00:52:58.235 --> 00:52:58.965
He's like, whoa.
00:52:59.515 --> 00:53:00.365
He's like, what, 80.
00:53:00.545 --> 00:53:01.525
And she's like, yeah.
00:53:01.826 --> 00:53:03.806
And the lady's like, yeah, 40, but it's 40.
00:53:03.995 --> 00:53:06.485
It's 40 bucks each for each girl.
00:53:06.786 --> 00:53:12.685
And I was just like, that is exactly why I did not jump in there and be like, yo, let's get my picture taken, bro.
00:53:12.915 --> 00:53:14.085
Like, that's just not me.
00:53:14.505 --> 00:53:22.076
And so they haggled a little bit and Gerard's like, you're outta your mind if I think I'm, if you think I'm gonna pay 80 bucks for a for a picture and blah blah.
00:53:22.076 --> 00:53:25.145
They're like, we have to pay a company too, and blah, blah.
00:53:25.205 --> 00:53:25.425
And.
00:53:25.556 --> 00:53:27.895
So that all, that's not going to us and blah, blah, blah.
00:53:28.315 --> 00:53:30.425
And so, and jar's like, oh, I don't really have any cash.
00:53:30.425 --> 00:53:32.306
And they're like, well, you, we take card too.
00:53:32.326 --> 00:53:33.299
You know, That kinda thing.
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.460
So like, he was really on the hook for it.
00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:37.659
And he got down to 20, he got down to 20 bucks.
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:41.059
So it was, I think it was 20 or Oh, it, no, it was 40.
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:42.299
It was 20 per girl.
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.659
So he paid 40 bucks for the picture.
00:53:44.699 --> 00:53:45.980
start with some absurdly
00:53:46.019 --> 00:53:47.019
was just like, Oh
00:53:47.169 --> 00:53:50.059
They're probably hoping to get$20 each.
00:53:50.059 --> 00:53:51.579
Like the man that's probably
00:53:51.629 --> 00:53:52.719
Yeah, exactly.
00:53:53.019 --> 00:53:53.179
get.
00:53:54.379 --> 00:53:54.669
They
00:53:54.669 --> 00:53:55.399
Yeah, exactly.
00:53:55.739 --> 00:53:55.960
So
00:53:56.230 --> 00:53:56.509
times
00:53:57.139 --> 00:53:58.359
see, right.
00:53:58.659 --> 00:54:02.199
And that's the thing, like, man, like it, it's so funny.
00:54:02.399 --> 00:54:04.279
I learned in Vegas over the four days, like.
00:54:05.125 --> 00:54:10.134
Like people are willing to do stuff for you, but then they don't tell you the price until after it's done like that.
00:54:10.134 --> 00:54:12.214
Like the price is not discussed upfront.
00:54:12.304 --> 00:54:13.404
It is an afterthought.
00:54:13.605 --> 00:54:14.364
of like, yeah.
00:54:14.434 --> 00:54:23.315
It's like case in point where like the cab that we took over, not the cab the black suv we took home from Topgolf, like he didn't say a word about price until we pulled up to the Luxor.
00:54:23.315 --> 00:54:24.754
He is like, yep, that'll be 40 bucks.
00:54:24.844 --> 00:54:25.404
That kinda thing.
00:54:25.625 --> 00:54:26.524
And same with the ladies.
00:54:26.585 --> 00:54:31.875
She, they didn't say shit about price until after the picture was taken, that kinda, so I was like, oh boy, here we go.
00:54:31.934 --> 00:54:33.315
But yeah, Vegas was cool.
00:54:33.394 --> 00:54:36.704
It's it was an addictive, if you got an addictive personality, man.
00:54:36.704 --> 00:54:38.384
Vegas is not the town for you, bro.
00:54:38.614 --> 00:54:39.704
It's just not, it is.
00:54:40.324 --> 00:54:42.224
Oh no, probably not.
00:54:42.364 --> 00:54:44.065
So, no, overall we had a good time.
00:54:44.264 --> 00:54:47.065
I only spent 40 bucks gambling and I donated at all.
00:54:47.105 --> 00:54:48.984
I didn't come home with any of it, so it's all good.
00:54:49.694 --> 00:54:50.304
It's all good.
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:52.179
Yep.
00:54:52.329 --> 00:54:53.779
Yeah, I had 40 bucks in cash.
00:54:54.059 --> 00:55:01.210
I brought it and we're, I spent it all down at Fremont Street, a couple different casinos, but I didn't I did not do well down there on, on the gambling front.
00:55:01.319 --> 00:55:02.089
It's just not me.
00:55:02.190 --> 00:55:06.690
But now I can say I gambled in Vegas and man, we just, the event was just such a good time.
00:55:07.059 --> 00:55:10.460
It just, we just had a great time and obviously Friday we got up and flew home.
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.059
But the event was just a good time.
00:55:13.589 --> 00:55:14.799
Like I said, some of the.
00:55:16.284 --> 00:55:28.644
Breakout sessions were a little too big for my liking but they had some really good intel in there, Alex, the one you and I were in the automating the infrastructures code for Nexus Os You and I were in that one together.
00:55:28.674 --> 00:55:29.404
That was pretty good.
00:55:29.554 --> 00:55:32.244
That was probably my favorite one that was really relatable.
00:55:32.524 --> 00:55:34.085
I could see myself using that.
00:55:34.704 --> 00:55:35.605
So that was a good one.
00:55:35.744 --> 00:55:43.114
But yeah just the people and I averaged like, I think I averaged like 20,000 steps a day or like 21,000 steps, like.
00:55:44.149 --> 00:55:45.929
Oh, dude, I chewed through those shoes.
00:55:46.210 --> 00:55:48.009
I, I threw'em right into garbage when I came home.
00:55:48.009 --> 00:55:50.449
They were completely shot I was like, Nope.
00:55:50.579 --> 00:55:54.455
A lot of walking carrying waters and shit like that in a backpack or whatever.
00:55:54.515 --> 00:55:56.096
But nah, just had a great time.
00:55:56.395 --> 00:56:03.715
Met some incredible people, learned some stuff did some cool things social media and the dinners were great.
00:56:04.015 --> 00:56:14.925
And but yeah, I think for next year, if I would go again next year or whatever, the next time I go is I would probably do a little lighter on the sessions and spend a little more time down in the world of solutions.
00:56:15.025 --> 00:56:19.675
Not that I didn't I spent a lot of time down there, but just kind of doing, I didn't see the whole thing.
00:56:19.705 --> 00:56:29.995
Like, I, I want to do, like, now that I know what's available, like I'd probably do like a meet the engineer or like some different lunches and stuff that are available to people or some of the vendor stuff.
00:56:30.076 --> 00:56:37.395
I kind of shied away from a lot of the vendors cause I just felt like it was, I just had this preconceived like, sales gimmicky notion sort of thing.
00:56:37.455 --> 00:56:41.495
I'm like like cuz once they scan your badge, they have your email and now they're gonna spam you forever.
00:56:42.155 --> 00:56:45.056
So like I stayed away from most of that.
00:56:45.955 --> 00:56:51.355
I probably would be a little more choosy as far as like, okay, yeah, I want to give this place my business.
00:56:51.515 --> 00:56:53.315
I don't mind them having my email sort of thing.
00:56:53.846 --> 00:56:54.846
And kind of dive into that.
00:56:54.846 --> 00:56:55.645
I didn't really do any of that.
00:56:55.786 --> 00:57:01.326
So I, there are some tweaks and whatnot that I would probably do a little different now that I have an idea of what it is.
00:57:01.346 --> 00:57:03.005
But overall I thought it was fantastic.
00:57:03.245 --> 00:57:04.326
I can't wait to go back.
00:57:04.335 --> 00:57:04.625
Yeah.
00:57:05.985 --> 00:57:07.806
So kind of just expanding on that.
00:57:08.745 --> 00:57:11.045
Oh, that's what you do a little bit differently.
00:57:11.505 --> 00:57:17.725
So backtracking a little bit, what would, what would you say is the, the low point of the trip or the thing that.
00:57:19.175 --> 00:57:21.155
You think they could change or improve on?
00:57:21.245 --> 00:57:24.786
And what did you enjoy the most specifically?
00:57:25.900 --> 00:57:26.020
Hmm.
00:57:26.244 --> 00:57:40.964
I would say the low point, I don't say low point, but one of, I think I mentioned before that the large rooms that were kind of hard to focus, I would say do'em in a smaller room, but maybe do two of them if there was that much demand for them for that particular class.
00:57:40.974 --> 00:57:42.364
Don't do it in such a large room.
00:57:42.524 --> 00:57:46.284
I would break it up into multiple sessions, but keep it in the smaller room.
00:57:46.284 --> 00:57:54.335
Cause I think people retain knowledge better that way, or it makes them, it keeps them focused, or at least for me, it keeps me more focused if I'm in a smaller room.
00:57:55.034 --> 00:57:55.864
So I would do that.
00:57:56.364 --> 00:58:05.844
The high point for me was probably just meeting people that I've talked to online and like I said, the David Bomb Balls and the Keith Barkers and Jason Gooeys of the world.
00:58:06.424 --> 00:58:13.740
And some of the other content creators, you know, like I said uh, Tim and, and Lexi and Dakota, bearded it, dad those folks always good.
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:21.085
So like, it's so weird to me that these people are just, Like WebEx chats or Discord chats for, 51 other weeks of the year.
00:58:21.265 --> 00:58:25.846
And now they're like, they're an actual person for a week when you guys meet at Cisco Live.
00:58:25.905 --> 00:58:28.655
So that, I always find that interesting that I thought that was really cool.
00:58:29.065 --> 00:58:35.715
So the whole meet and greet and just being with like-minded folks and, again, talking to people that are just way smarter than you.
00:58:35.715 --> 00:58:38.515
And I always say like, if you're the smartest guy in the room, you're in the wrong room.
00:58:38.735 --> 00:58:43.596
So, get in the chat with Daniel Dibb, and again, Jason Gooley and Dan Kucher.
00:58:43.596 --> 00:58:50.265
And so some of those guys that just have such reverence in this industry because of what they've done and who they are.
00:58:50.295 --> 00:58:55.985
Like Peter Jones, he was another one another guy there, big guy on ethernet and he's been around for a while.
00:58:56.165 --> 00:58:58.445
So, got to meet him for a little bit and do their thing.
00:58:58.465 --> 00:58:59.056
And just.
00:58:59.465 --> 00:59:02.195
Kind of talking to them and just talking shop and they, they love it.
00:59:02.195 --> 00:59:09.635
Like you said when we talked about Keith Barker, like they have to love it cuz they just they have such a high positive attitude of when they talk to you about it.
00:59:09.635 --> 00:59:12.585
Like, you like it oozes from them You know what I mean?
00:59:12.655 --> 00:59:14.225
It's just so, it's so crazy.
00:59:14.405 --> 00:59:17.385
So that was probably my highlight, just talking to people and getting around.
00:59:17.965 --> 00:59:18.306
All right.
00:59:19.536 --> 00:59:23.065
Well, I'm actually surprised this, we chatted about this for a while.
00:59:23.225 --> 00:59:24.265
I thought this would be a quick
00:59:24.455 --> 00:59:24.745
Yeah.
00:59:25.695 --> 00:59:25.985
Yeah.
00:59:26.245 --> 00:59:27.185
No, here we are.
00:59:27.185 --> 00:59:28.145
So I'll flip that on you.
00:59:28.205 --> 00:59:30.025
So just, this is your third one.
00:59:30.365 --> 00:59:31.625
Do you have a high and low point?
00:59:33.140 --> 00:59:34.750
Well, again, we kinda already discussed it.
00:59:34.750 --> 00:59:42.161
The low point for me was how much time I spent on to capture the flag I like, cuz I, it's almost like
00:59:42.175 --> 00:59:42.395
Oh
00:59:42.580 --> 00:59:46.161
on the flip side that you couldn't say that was the high point of, because I really did enjoy it.
00:59:46.701 --> 00:59:48.161
Uh, but I just spent way too much
00:59:48.346 --> 00:59:48.695
right.
00:59:49.460 --> 00:59:54.375
Um, I didn't go to enough breakout sessions, which I didn't think I'd ever say
00:59:54.759 --> 00:59:55.049
Yeah.
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:57.409
Yeah, yeah,
00:59:58.724 --> 01:00:04.824
so what the true highlight was, cuz there's things that are just completely unrelated to technology were the high points.
01:00:04.844 --> 01:00:08.984
So like, I, I wanna, there was some booth that had like a putting challenge.
01:00:09.044 --> 01:00:10.494
It was completely unrelated to
01:00:11.730 --> 01:00:12.019
yeah.
01:00:12.294 --> 01:00:19.214
whatever, I don't even remember the product they were pushing, but,they had some like, uh, mini golf set up.
01:00:19.234 --> 01:00:26.294
It was probably like, a 10 by 10 mat and they just had, to shoot in the six different targets and the quickest amount of time.
01:00:26.714 --> 01:00:30.214
So I, I ended up winning that, uh, like I.
01:00:31.739 --> 01:00:32.784
The best time for the day.
01:00:32.784 --> 01:00:33.024
So I.
01:00:33.024 --> 01:00:36.174
got another$50 um, store credit.
01:00:36.914 --> 01:00:37.494
Uh, so
01:00:37.855 --> 01:00:38.144
Nice.
01:00:38.244 --> 01:00:40.904
that was just, uh, that's what I'm reading right now.
01:00:40.954 --> 01:00:41.704
the books I bought.
01:00:43.044 --> 01:00:52.394
um, well, you mentioned about meeting people that you know, you, these, WebEx is in these um, just podcasts.
01:00:52.454 --> 01:01:08.234
But the other thing too is if, if moved around from job to job, and this might be like the only event of the year where you get together with everyone, every co, well not every, but coworkers that you've had from every other job.
01:01:09.174 --> 01:01:09.394
So,
01:01:09.954 --> 01:01:10.244
sure.
01:01:10.754 --> 01:01:16.107
uh, I'm hoping that you continue to go and hopefully that's not the only time we see each other, but I think I'll,
01:01:16.498 --> 01:01:16.897
I know.
01:01:17.007 --> 01:01:17.297
Yeah.
01:01:17.397 --> 01:01:20.597
Cisco live more knowing that, hey Pat's gonna be there.
01:01:20.597 --> 01:01:21.498
I get to see Pat again.
01:01:21.498 --> 01:01:22.137
That's kind of neat.
01:01:22.737 --> 01:01:23.427
It's gonna be cool.
01:01:23.627 --> 01:01:24.627
not just meeting new people,
01:01:24.737 --> 01:01:25.027
Yeah.
01:01:25.027 --> 01:01:26.547
It was the first time you and I have.
01:01:27.577 --> 01:01:28.107
Yeah, right.
01:01:29.047 --> 01:01:33.707
you and I, that's the first time you and I have been together and what I mean, it's been a while.
01:01:34.167 --> 01:01:34.327
pandemic?
01:01:34.527 --> 01:01:35.047
I think so.
01:01:35.047 --> 01:01:35.248
Yeah.
01:01:35.248 --> 01:01:35.727
Four years.
01:01:36.127 --> 01:01:37.417
Yeah, it was pre pandemic?
01:01:37.647 --> 01:01:37.937
Yeah.
01:01:38.207 --> 01:01:38.498
Yeah.
01:01:38.557 --> 01:01:41.477
So it's it was cool to hang out and it was great to see Nate.
01:01:41.657 --> 01:01:44.407
And I saw another guy that I worked with at Service Electric.
01:01:44.457 --> 01:01:50.407
He's now a a boss or a network network engineering manager or something out at for the cable company here where I used to work.
01:01:50.587 --> 01:01:51.127
So I saw him.
01:01:51.147 --> 01:01:52.087
So shout out to Eric.
01:01:52.227 --> 01:01:56.657
So, yeah, I just saw some real cool people and it's always good to see everybody.
01:01:56.797 --> 01:02:02.687
And it's funny that I mentioned Gerard a few times in this podcast, but again, he's part of the champs and we see him all the time.
01:02:02.788 --> 01:02:04.727
He literally lives an hour north of me.
01:02:05.257 --> 01:02:08.667
So like we both went out to Vegas to meet each other for the first time.
01:02:08.768 --> 01:02:10.877
So that was live an hour.
01:02:11.268 --> 01:02:11.557
Yeah.
01:02:12.197 --> 01:02:12.487
Yeah.
01:02:13.477 --> 01:02:14.087
Yeah, exactly.
01:02:14.397 --> 01:02:14.687
yeah.
01:02:14.687 --> 01:02:19.847
We live an hour from each other, but we had to fly five to Vegas to actually meet each other and be there.
01:02:19.907 --> 01:02:21.167
So that was funny.
01:02:21.307 --> 01:02:24.237
So, yeah, that was kind of it, that, that was the week, man.
01:02:24.237 --> 01:02:24.957
It was a great week.
01:02:25.087 --> 01:02:28.407
It was just, we had so much fun and really cool, really good time.
01:02:28.547 --> 01:02:31.687
And I can't wait to go again, so I dunno if I'll get there next year.
01:02:31.807 --> 01:02:35.240
I think uh, colleague Pete gets the ticket next year.
01:02:35.260 --> 01:02:35.920
So who knows?
01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:38.201
But a lot can change, but Pete's a good guy.
01:02:38.201 --> 01:02:38.640
I'll hook you up.
01:02:38.640 --> 01:02:39.161
He's a good dude.
01:02:39.540 --> 01:02:41.280
So do that.
01:02:41.500 --> 01:02:42.080
But who knows?
01:02:42.150 --> 01:02:44.480
Yeah, we'll see what happens and kind of go from there.
01:02:44.580 --> 01:02:46.030
But yeah, that was kinda it.
01:02:46.030 --> 01:02:47.250
Do you have anything else to add?
01:02:48.520 --> 01:02:52.270
Oh, well you covered so much
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:54.161
I know this is a big one.
01:02:54.931 --> 01:03:02.536
Yeah, cuz I mean, I could go through my whole spiel too, but I don't wanna take another 45 minutes, but, I already summed it up a little bit earlier.
01:03:02.995 --> 01:03:07.905
Uh, I wish I would've taken a few more breakout sessions, not spent quite as much time on one thing.
01:03:07.905 --> 01:03:09.545
In this case, it was captured the flag
01:03:09.640 --> 01:03:09.860
Yep,
01:03:11.045 --> 01:03:11.265
And
01:03:11.681 --> 01:03:11.900
yep.
01:03:12.145 --> 01:03:20.786
I think next time I go, I'm gonna take some notes from you, which is essentially, I'm gonna try to do some more social networking.
01:03:20.925 --> 01:03:25.665
I'm gonna try to see if there's um, like that tech field day.
01:03:25.705 --> 01:03:31.655
I know that's not a Cisco Live thing, they just held it at Cisco Live, but being on a panel or something like that, I think that would interest me.
01:03:32.275 --> 01:03:32.495
Um,
01:03:33.390 --> 01:03:34.600
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
01:03:34.735 --> 01:03:34.895
that.
01:03:34.955 --> 01:03:46.422
And the other thing that I've done in previous jobs, but I didn't this year or previous times I went to live, is I go there with a, a problem that I'm trying to solve for work.
01:03:46.722 --> 01:03:55.242
And then I go there with the intent of actually the world of solutions be something that I can, I can listen to a sales pitch full knowing that I may
01:03:55.377 --> 01:03:55.797
Mm-hmm.
01:03:56.222 --> 01:04:05.082
Be interested in the product because if you don't go with a problem in hand you, you're not gonna invent one just cuz the salesman's there, unless they're really good, maybe, maybe
01:04:05.092 --> 01:04:05.382
Sure
01:04:06.302 --> 01:04:14.460
um, But, uh, I think it's part uh, we were just going through layoffs at Disney, so buying more more things wasn't on the forefront.
01:04:14.659 --> 01:04:28.069
But hopefully next year that'll be behind us and there'll be some, you know, some obvious things that we're looking into and I can take advantage of that and actually listen to a sales pitch that might solve something that we need to get solved.
01:04:28.799 --> 01:04:29.649
Yeah, no, for sure.
01:04:29.710 --> 01:04:34.250
There was a couple boosts that I probably would've went to and listened to a sales pitch.
01:04:34.629 --> 01:04:40.929
But yeah, it's definitely on the on the docket for next year and, be a little more selective with that and just kind of, see what's out there.
01:04:40.989 --> 01:04:44.359
But now I had a great time and the social factor was even better.
01:04:44.539 --> 01:04:46.119
And it's could never hurt.
01:04:46.139 --> 01:04:51.079
So, I don't know Kyle, I think I heard Alex is gonna join Twitter and, get on the tech community there at Twitter.
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:52.000
I think that's what I heard.
01:04:52.179 --> 01:04:52.690
So I don't know.
01:04:52.744 --> 01:04:53.264
heard it too.
01:04:55.589 --> 01:04:56.489
what'd you say, Alex?
01:04:56.875 --> 01:04:57.574
No you didn't.
01:04:57.754 --> 01:04:58.774
You did not hear that.
01:04:59.774 --> 01:05:00.714
If I ever need to
01:05:00.819 --> 01:05:01.239
Dammit.
01:05:01.344 --> 01:05:04.355
I'll send it to you in a text so you post this, destroy me.
01:05:05.085 --> 01:05:05.625
Oh, man.
01:05:05.724 --> 01:05:05.944
Yep.
01:05:05.944 --> 01:05:06.424
There you go.
01:05:06.484 --> 01:05:08.754
So, all right, everybody Kyle, anything else from you?
01:05:08.794 --> 01:05:15.065
I know you'd be kind of quiet, this is this wasn't really your dig, but any questions that you might have for Cisco Live folks?
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:25.250
Well, I would say uh, as a person who didn't go right, if I had the opportunity to go, what would be maybe one or two things that you would tell me that I should not miss?
01:05:25.839 --> 01:05:29.649
Whether it's Cisco Live or just maybe you know, the location too.
01:05:31.224 --> 01:05:31.514
Yeah.
01:05:32.129 --> 01:05:32.349
Um,
01:05:32.594 --> 01:05:32.754
Hmm.
01:05:34.659 --> 01:05:52.102
well, it's hard to avoid it, so I don't know if it's really much of a, uh, a hint or a suggestion, but the world solution, as soon as you get an opportunity to go in there, just go up and down all those aisles uh, that entire space, I think that's probably the first thing you should do.
01:05:52.882 --> 01:05:53.102
Uh,
01:05:53.637 --> 01:05:53.927
Yeah.
01:05:54.393 --> 01:05:58.652
cuz it really is impressive and it's, it's easy to miss something if you don't.
01:05:58.832 --> 01:06:04.985
So maybe, yeah, just go up and down that entire showroom floor and don't actually stop anywhere you have.
01:06:04.985 --> 01:06:11.955
Just try to make a mental note of the things that are interesting to you, cuz you'll come across things that are just very interesting.
01:06:11.955 --> 01:06:20.875
You can take up a lot of your time, like capture the flag cuz you don't know what it's uh, but they, they have things like, uh, racing simulators for some odd reason that are there.
01:06:20.895 --> 01:06:21.115
And
01:06:21.170 --> 01:06:21.911
Oh yeah.
01:06:21.911 --> 01:06:22.911
There was an Indy car there.
01:06:22.911 --> 01:06:23.830
Yeah, that's right.
01:06:24.105 --> 01:06:26.235
make note, they have the Lombardi trophy there.
01:06:26.855 --> 01:06:36.891
Um, These are things that are not gonna be there every year, but there's always something that is like unexpected and interesting and you could miss it if you just don't go up and down the showroom.
01:06:38.331 --> 01:06:38.551
Um,
01:06:38.716 --> 01:06:39.007
Okay.
01:06:39.036 --> 01:06:39.326
Yeah,
01:06:39.711 --> 01:06:42.931
and outside of that, uh, again, you'll hear all about it.
01:06:42.931 --> 01:06:49.951
So it'd appreciation event, uh, I didn't go because just not a Gwen Stefani or Blake fan.
01:06:50.652 --> 01:06:55.561
Um, so, but the customer appreciation event is usually something really impressive.
01:06:55.611 --> 01:06:59.711
Um, So, you wanna make sure you get your ticket for that and head over.
01:07:01.986 --> 01:07:02.277
Yeah.
01:07:02.736 --> 01:07:09.436
You know else I enjoyed too, the second keynote, which was Wednesday morning, they had Jim Gaffigan do a half hour of standup.
01:07:10.106 --> 01:07:11.076
Dude, some of that stuff.
01:07:11.196 --> 01:07:21.236
I couldn't stop laughing at that, that he was so spot on He made it like, he made it like it was about family, like his, like about his relationship with his kids.
01:07:21.376 --> 01:07:26.386
And it's the old adage of, kids are, blood suckers and, like, they rule the roost and blah, blah, blah.
01:07:26.416 --> 01:07:30.706
Like some of his stuff, man, we, cuz we were literally front row for that keynote.
01:07:31.326 --> 01:07:38.306
We were literally like, to the left of us was like Chuck Robbins and all the C level suite people, like literally front row for that one.
01:07:38.726 --> 01:07:39.547
So that was pretty cool.
01:07:40.326 --> 01:07:43.036
Yeah, we had, yeah, it was right up front for Jim Gaffigan.
01:07:43.036 --> 01:07:43.946
And he was hilarious.
01:07:44.286 --> 01:07:47.726
I couldn't stop, I couldn't stop laughing like I, my stomach hurt cuz I laughed.
01:07:47.726 --> 01:07:51.726
So, and he only did a half hour and it was just, it was one punchline after the next.
01:07:51.726 --> 01:07:58.016
And I was like, and as a father, something with kids like it re it was, everything he said was a hundred percent spot on.
01:07:58.016 --> 01:07:59.236
It was just so funny.
01:07:59.757 --> 01:08:01.436
I was like, this guy is an absolute ride.
01:08:01.496 --> 01:08:06.757
But like, again, it was sort of in that same lane we talked about with Blake Shelton and GW Stefani.
01:08:06.866 --> 01:08:11.876
Like, they don't know anything about tech or, I mean, I, at least I'm assuming or Cisco or anything like that.
01:08:11.876 --> 01:08:16.957
But like Jim Gaffing came in cold, I'm assuming he doesn't know a whole lot, if anything.
01:08:17.056 --> 01:08:18.877
And, he sit there for a gig and getting paid.
01:08:18.936 --> 01:08:23.176
But like, he made it fun and he made it relatable and it was just super, super funny.
01:08:23.317 --> 01:08:24.896
So I have to throw that in there as well.
01:08:25.037 --> 01:08:25.386
Right?
01:08:25.817 --> 01:08:26.507
Yeah, I think so.
01:08:26.507 --> 01:08:32.907
The moral of the story is there's gonna be things at Cisco Live that you're gonna be shocked or there that are gonna be interesting to you.
01:08:33.527 --> 01:08:33.747
and
01:08:34.837 --> 01:08:35.056
Yep.
01:08:35.216 --> 01:08:43.627
it, the, for the, the keynote that just might be, if you don't look and see that Jim Gaffigan's part of the keynote that something you just miss because you're like, eh, that's a keynote.
01:08:43.907 --> 01:08:44.987
I don't really need to hear it.
01:08:45.646 --> 01:08:49.226
And then you miss, you know, front row seats to a Jim gavigan standup.
01:08:49.226 --> 01:08:49.507
Yeah.
01:08:50.547 --> 01:08:50.896
right.
01:08:51.527 --> 01:08:52.177
.Yeah, exactly.
01:08:52.677 --> 01:08:53.157
I loved it.
01:08:53.257 --> 01:09:01.847
So anyway yeah, it just so from a first timer, I thought it was, I thought it was fantastic and I, I just can't, I can't wait to go again.
01:09:01.867 --> 01:09:03.447
So, Kyle, next year, that's your goal.
01:09:03.917 --> 01:09:11.327
Save your pennies and go get a ticket and we'll All go out there and we'll do a live pod from the Mandalay Bay
01:09:11.467 --> 01:09:12.287
Oh my goodness.
01:09:12.952 --> 01:09:13.332
All right.
01:09:13.717 --> 01:09:13.837
I.
01:09:14.436 --> 01:09:15.087
Rock and roll.
01:09:15.432 --> 01:09:15.851
And then
01:09:15.936 --> 01:09:17.007
Maybe a little ambitious.
01:09:17.106 --> 01:09:17.606
Who knows?
01:09:18.992 --> 01:09:20.532
uh, I, I can't remember.
01:09:20.632 --> 01:09:23.052
you you guys use a lot of Cisco equipment or not so much?
01:09:23.952 --> 01:09:24.242
Yeah.
01:09:24.292 --> 01:09:25.481
We're a heavy Cisco shop.
01:09:25.512 --> 01:09:26.122
Yeah, for sure.
01:09:26.177 --> 01:09:32.997
so it isn't unreasonable that you'd be able to get, uh, Cisco learning credits for your past.
01:09:33.657 --> 01:09:35.317
So as long as they're willing
01:09:35.497 --> 01:09:36.797
that's how I paid for my ticket.
01:09:36.867 --> 01:09:45.807
So as long as they're, would you, just like I did, if you got the pass taken care of, which if you pay out of pocket, it's like 2,800 bucks, would.
01:09:45.807 --> 01:09:46.726
you pay your own travel?
01:09:47.037 --> 01:09:49.407
Like if they took care of the pass, like would you,
01:09:50.277 --> 01:09:51.197
I probably would.
01:09:51.247 --> 01:09:51.927
cost of the, the
01:09:52.027 --> 01:09:52.877
Yeah, I probably would.
01:09:54.217 --> 01:09:55.226
Yeah, I probably would.
01:09:55.777 --> 01:10:07.561
Yeah, that's, I mean, that's why I have a credit card like that but my, obviously the company paid for the travel and the hotel, which wasn't, and then my ticket was paid for by our learner credits, so I literally went for nothing.
01:10:08.122 --> 01:10:14.952
And then, yeah, I didn't pay for anything all week except for the dinner we went to and like Fremont Street and had like barbecue and stuff.
01:10:15.152 --> 01:10:17.912
Anything else was, it was comped that, Evan was with me.
01:10:17.912 --> 01:10:21.212
We had dinners and or whatever, but it was it had a great time.
01:10:21.271 --> 01:10:25.992
And but yeah, I would say yeah, if you if you get half of it paid, if you get the ticket paid.
01:10:26.012 --> 01:10:33.492
For me personally, knowing you know, what it is and how much fun you have I would take care of the hotel and the the plane right out
01:10:33.587 --> 01:10:37.467
because with me, between the hotel and the plane, it was 500 bucks and to me that was worth it.
01:10:37.467 --> 01:10:39.907
Like I'll spend$500 to go out there for four days.
01:10:41.497 --> 01:10:41.917
For sure.
01:10:42.387 --> 01:10:42.997
Yeah, for sure.
01:10:43.157 --> 01:10:43.717
A hundred percent.
01:10:44.106 --> 01:10:45.237
Yeah I would agree with that.
01:10:45.257 --> 01:10:55.957
So, yeah, so it's it's always fun and yeah, just, get out there at all costs and, just as a first timer, I just can't wait to, I can't wait to go back and, and meet new people and hang.
01:10:56.167 --> 01:10:57.087
That's what it is.
01:10:57.186 --> 01:10:58.567
So it's all good.
01:10:59.291 --> 01:10:59.851
Anything else, boys?
01:11:00.131 --> 01:11:04.711
I know we're kind of, we're we're not burning the midnight oil, but we're an hour and 20 into this thing.
01:11:04.981 --> 01:11:06.351
This, we never go this long.
01:11:06.541 --> 01:11:07.110
It's crazy.
01:11:07.411 --> 01:11:07.631
no.
01:11:07.631 --> 01:11:08.951
I think it's a good way to wrap up.
01:11:09.181 --> 01:11:09.791
Obviously
01:11:10.451 --> 01:11:11.341
That is a good way.
01:11:11.481 --> 01:11:14.981
Cisco Alive lived up to your expectations and uh,
01:11:15.751 --> 01:11:16.641
Yeah, for sure.
01:11:16.751 --> 01:11:23.774
be a lifetime, I don't know, supporter of Cisco Live and someone I'll try to go every year it sounds like.
01:11:24.719 --> 01:11:25.298
That's it.
01:11:26.059 --> 01:11:26.378
Absolutely.
01:11:26.378 --> 01:11:26.659
Yeah.
01:11:26.659 --> 01:11:35.378
and the wife knows, as nerdy as this may sound, the wife knows that this was a bucket list thing for me, that I've been like I've been working with Cisco gear for 20 years and I've never been in a position to go.
01:11:35.829 --> 01:11:37.249
But now obviously my first one.
01:11:37.429 --> 01:11:38.969
So the wife's like, yeah, you can go.
01:11:38.989 --> 01:11:43.449
And I got two small kids, so like, I felt guilty sticking it with two small kids all week.
01:11:43.509 --> 01:11:45.249
But she's like, ah, it's a bucket list thing.
01:11:45.249 --> 01:11:46.229
You go have your time.
01:11:46.329 --> 01:11:47.789
I'm like, all right, say no more.
01:11:48.003 --> 01:11:52.164
wife just like, and not shamefully, that my favorite week of the year.
01:11:53.244 --> 01:11:54.644
I really look forward to.
01:11:55.374 --> 01:11:55.713
All right.
01:11:55.713 --> 01:11:56.514
That's what's up.
01:11:56.584 --> 01:11:58.264
Like it now.
01:11:58.463 --> 01:12:00.584
I won't feel so bad knowing you said that.
01:12:00.774 --> 01:12:02.463
I'll say that now and I won't feel so bad.
01:12:02.963 --> 01:12:11.064
it is kinda like the guy's, um, you know, weeklong vacation or weeklong trip, but you know, you can kind of under the guise of work,
01:12:12.106 --> 01:12:12.726
That's right.
01:12:12.997 --> 01:12:13.287
Yeah.
01:12:13.557 --> 01:12:13.847
Yeah.
01:12:13.847 --> 01:12:14.686
Hanging with the boys.
01:12:14.797 --> 01:12:15.527
Yeah, exactly.
01:12:15.837 --> 01:12:16.646
Exactly right.
01:12:17.226 --> 01:12:17.447
Yep.
01:12:17.447 --> 01:12:17.967
That's it.
01:12:18.507 --> 01:12:18.927
All right, everybody.
01:12:18.927 --> 01:12:19.767
We're gonna get outta here.
01:12:19.767 --> 01:12:20.726
We appreciate everybody hanging.
01:12:20.997 --> 01:12:23.177
Also, as a side note I did a.
01:12:24.231 --> 01:12:28.792
Cisco live review on my blog layer eight packet.io.
01:12:29.162 --> 01:12:32.442
Mainly that is used for my CCMP security studies.
01:12:32.552 --> 01:12:36.762
I've been blogging with that, so if you're interested in that security stuff, go hang out there.
01:12:36.762 --> 01:12:42.742
But this one is a little left of center, if you will not secure related, just Cisco live related.
01:12:42.762 --> 01:12:44.112
So I did a blog on that too.
01:12:44.112 --> 01:12:47.192
Some pictures are up there of the folks I met and hung with and whatnot.
01:12:47.252 --> 01:12:48.552
So go hang go.
01:12:48.811 --> 01:12:50.342
Take a look at that if that interest you.
01:12:50.342 --> 01:12:52.502
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01:12:52.642 --> 01:12:55.569
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01:12:55.668 --> 01:13:02.239
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01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:04.679
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Good to see everybody get back together again, and we'll catch everybody next week.
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Bye everybody.
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So long.