So Many Dynamos: Maureen McVail’s 22-Year Journey to Empower Women in Motorsports

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Break Fix podcast is all about capturing
the living history of people from all
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over the autos sphere, from wrench,
turners, and racers to artists, authors,
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designers, and everything in between.
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Our goal is to inspire a new
generation of Petrolhead that wonder.
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How did they get that job
or become that person?
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The road to success is paved by all
of us because everyone has a story.
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Michelle Mutan, Janet Guthrie, Lynn
St. James Danica, Patrick Simona de
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Silvestro, and the late Sabine Schmid.
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These are names many of us recognize
in the racing Hall of Fame and without
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women like our guest tonight, a woman
who avidly promotes the empowerment
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of women in motor sport with boundless
enthusiasm, encouraging women's
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participation in all roles of auto racing.
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Countless new names would
be left off this list.
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Motorsports opportunities or MORacing
for short was created to inspire, mentor
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and amplify opportunities to drive crew
or avidly spectate at the racetrack.
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Joining us on Break Fix to tell us all
about her Motorsports journey and how
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she built MORacing is Founder and Chief
Innovation Officer Maureen McVail.
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Tanya, and as Maureen has mentioned to us
behind the scenes, this story is 22 years
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in the making and we welcome her to break
fix, to share that story with everyone.
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So welcome, Maureen.
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Thank you so much, both of you,
for a wonderful invitation.
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Normally we would just jump right
into the who, what, where, or when of.
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Whatever, or whoever we're
we're talking to or about.
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But we realize there's a lot more to
the MORacing story than meets the eye.
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So we think it's fair that we start
with Maureen the Petrolhead, and
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see how she got into motor sports.
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In 1999.
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I had a newborn, my second son, and
instead of getting a minivan, I got a 1984
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Porsche Carrera and knew that it belonged
on a racetrack and not on the streets.
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But what drove you to that?
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Pun intended.
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I love it.
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The honest story is I was married at the
time and now have a wonderful co-parent.
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We divorced and I will not say it
was over the driving stuff, but might
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have had something to do with it.
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Instead of getting an engagement ring,
I wanted a black Wrangler geek to show
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that my true love wanted to marry me.
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He promised the black Wrangler g. Then
after our second child was born, I
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didn't see the Black Wrangler Jeep yet.
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So I changed it and I said,
now I want a black Porsche.
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And so we went out searching and
looked around and found a beautiful
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1984 Carrera, which I brought my
then seven month old home in one of
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those baby carriers in the backseat.
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And I did not think that
was terribly unsafe because.
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Porsches are made of steel up.
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I'm gonna say, I'll look that a car
is way more practical than the ring.
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I like where your head was at.
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Yeah.
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So again, having a toddler and mommies and
mes expecting me to show them my new van.
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I took my 1984 Carrera and got
addicted driving in high performance
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driver's ed at Pocono Raceway.
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After that first time around
driving, I knew I was hooked.
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Then in 2000 through 2005, I drove that
same Porsche, and of course it got more
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and more modified, and I did some of the
work myself, including changing the brakes
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at the track, changing out brake pads.
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So Maureen, were you always a petrolhead?
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Because this is already into your adult
life where you go, I want a Porsche.
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What drove you to a sports car?
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I come from a family of educators.
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My dad was a classical music
professor, my mom a teacher, and I
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always mention, 'cause I'm so proud,
she had her master's from Harvard.
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So she was no shrinking violet because I
did not have any automotive background.
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I swear that this is just natural.
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I used to joke that Mario Andretti
was my real father and that did
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bother my real biological father
who sent me a Christmas card once.
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Loved Mario.
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But anyway, that aside.
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In 1972, my father was on sabbatical
with the entire family and we
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bought, we noticed I was probably 11.
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I still think I had
something to do with it.
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Bought a Mercedes-Benz two 20 diesel
oil, and that is what, five years
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later, I learned how to drive in
stick shift, which I believe and.
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Tanya maybe can help me with this is I'm
trying to find out what percentage of
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women drive manual transmission so we can
figure that out together in the future.
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It's a very small percentage.
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Yes, very small.
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A single digit.
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I think the number is increasing though,
because I know a lot of women that have
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said as they've gotten older, they're
like, I wish I learned, or I. Bond
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Day bought a manual and I learned and
I'm like, wait, you drive a manual?
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Really?
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I'm always pleasantly surprised,
but I'm always like, yes,
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another person driving a manual.
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I get excited about that.
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I think it's a good thing.
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Your enthusiasm for them Driving
stick is the same as my enthusiasm.
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I know that I've personally had an
impact on at least 15 people joining
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High Performance Driving and some of them
buying a Miata, which is fine with me.
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I don't care what it is.
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Just so you enjoy driving it.
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People who borrowed my
car are now HPDE addicts.
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Then a big time move.
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I sold that highly modified 84 Carrera,
and I bought a friend's modified cup car.
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Yes, that is a cup car with
a very tall first gear, which
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I stalled out several times.
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Oops.
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My first time driving it after I
went sideways in turn nine at Watkins
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Glen, after a year of driving the
cup car, I said, okay, it's for
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sale so that I don't sell it all.
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Crumpled up.
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Sold that and went to a RS
America, which I drove and also we
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campaigned and Porsche Club racing.
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So my co-owner of that car is a
guy, but he's one of the girls.
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Anyway, we'll get to that later.
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Then in 2011 I bought a 9, 9, 6 for
myself for street driving and then started
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loaning that car out for de events.
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Two women drove it at
Sebring in uh, driver's ed.
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I had it shipped down and shipped back.
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I'm in the Philadelphia area,
so that was quite a feat.
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2011, I mentioned the 9, 9 6, but
it also, a key time in that date is
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I had a co-ed event for the women's
round table, which had only had women
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gatherings and I had that at the Symon
Museum, which you should look up if
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you have not been in the Philadelphia
area, is a premier car collection.
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And Dr. Fred Simeon is wonderful,
so I'm very proud of that.
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I had a gathering there.
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We had an opera singer and people
bring in Porsches and of course
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the 50 some cars there on display.
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So that brings us to 2012 through 2019.
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Of course, I selling the
other ones out from under me.
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My Cayman S was co-owned and we ran
that in GTB one Porsche Club racing.
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When I say we ran it, I did not drive.
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I was semi-retired by now.
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My reaction time is not
as great as it used to be.
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I still enjoy driving, but I find
it, it's much more competitive now.
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So I've never raced myself.
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I have co-owned a race car and ran a
racing team, so that brings us to 2020.
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After selling the G GTB one,
I got a Ford Mustang for a
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women's She leads road rally.
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Say that 10 times fast.
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She leads Road Rally,
which I was the Pace car.
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We had a police escort in and out
of Philadelphia and in and out of
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Scranton where we had a pit stop
going to Seneca Falls, please look
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up Seneca Falls and see what it
means as far as women's development.
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And it was the first Women's Rights
Convention back in 1870 something.
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The road rally was a huge success, even
considering it was done during COVID.
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We had 25 cars and about 55 people.
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Probably without COVID it
would've had busloads of people.
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There was a lot of interest in it.
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I also wanna add to my resume.
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I bought in 1998, M three, which
was one of my favorite cars, which
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I lent out to have women drive in.
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DE had 200,000 miles on it
and it was a wonderful car and
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I really regret selling it.
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And finally it brings us to 2022.
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I just purchased a 2008 9, 9
7, and I am learning about it.
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And my goal with this car is that I will
do personally all of the work on it.
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Of course.
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Using a friend's lift.
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So that brings us to the present.
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Looking at your driving history over
the last 20 plus years, somewhere in
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there, the idea for MORacing was born.
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So what was the driving factor?
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What was the catalyst that
suddenly you woke up one day and
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say, I need to do this, and why?
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I'm into Palindromes because I'm a
linguist and I have a bachelor's in
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Russian, and no, that doesn't help
anything and it's coming in helpful.
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Now I can read what's
going on in the news.
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The palindrome that I use kind of
as my motto is so many dynamos.
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You can read it both directions.
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So many dynamos is the same both ways.
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And back to the percentages again.
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I know that more than 50% of the
world is occupied by women and they
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are driving force, quote unquote.
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I wanted to see more women around
at the track, and so basically
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I'm admitting to you I'm a sexist.
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I believe that there should be more women.
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Men who treat them just as drivers,
which is what led me to want to do
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more racing because I had male allies
and the male allies, to me is the best
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part of what I'm doing because I get
men who say I have daughters or I have
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sisters, or I, my mother were petrolhead
as you call them, or car enthusiasts.
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So that's what got me going.
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I wanna ask you one that normally I
think we would make almost consider
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it a pit stop question, but this is
important to the story that we're
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telling here today, and that's the
development of these alternate motors
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sports events like the WF one W series.
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There's all these Yeah, the W series.
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I wanted to get your take on that
construct, that idea, and how
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you feel about the future of that
or, or where it should be going.
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And now I'm going to tread very gently
because there are different opinions
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on the W series and my personal opinion
is I don't wanna piss anybody off.
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My thrust of what I'm saying is that men
and women can compete on the same level.
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Therefore, the Women's Series
is not a great thing because
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it's kind of a showcase.
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Now, I will say that my male
allies who bring articles to me and
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constantly are saying, you should
meet so and so and such and such.
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Bringing it back to Don Cox, he
believes that the Women's series
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is a great thing because it's
spotlighting the women drivers.
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Not that they're women, but that
they're drivers who are women.
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So that's my take on the Women's W Series
and Pippa Mann got really involved in
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arguing the other side of that, meaning
I think she's with me, that men and
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women should be able to compete using
the great neutralizer called a car.
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The machine that propels us all to
fast in the same way, regardless
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of who's behind the steering wheel.
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So what exactly did MORacing start?
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What are you guys into?
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Are you strictly HPDE?
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Are you doing all branches of
Motorsport MORacing started 2016.
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We chi the 9, 9 6 down to Seabring.
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Where I had a coach ready for
two friends that flew down, so
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that's when MORacing started,
but it was under a different name.
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If you're familiar with Shift
Up now, shift Up was originated
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between Lynn Keho and myself.
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In fact, I'm very proud
to have designed the logo.
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But anyway.
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Shift up was then renamed to shift up.
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Now when Lynn and I separated my interest
being HPDE and Lynn's interest being the
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athletes that she has, and I believe Lynn
has now given shift up over to Pippa Man.
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Who I wanted to mention should be
in your lineup of women that you
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mentioned early on, plus again, so
many other dynamos, Catherine Legg,
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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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There's so many, it's hard to
keep track of, but Pippa Man is
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now heading up, shift up now.
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So MORacing started then.
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I just didn't name it yet.
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Still don't love the name
because I'm not a racer.
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I am a race car and race team
manager and crew chief, and.
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Many bottle, washer, whatever you
wanna call it, it's still going on.
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And you asked what we are involved in
and we is, there are two women that help
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with the website and communications,
and this really is just growing now,
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I swear it's manifesting itself as we
speak because I just met and spent some
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time with Beth Coretta last Tuesday,
a week ago today in Indianapolis,
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where she was a keynote speaker.
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Speaking of which, I do some speaking
engagements, which is not my forte, but
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I am really good at giving clinics and
workshops to the likes of Girl Scouts.
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All girls schools, girls can do anything.
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Group religious groups, I
don't care who it is, young.
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Kids who drag their feet and they're
like, okay, what are we doing now?
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And then when they get to sit in
the race car and change the lug nuts
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on a race car, they definitely have
a smile and a grin on their face.
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And I know that somebody out of that
group is going to pursue a STEM career.
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Whether they know it or not.
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And that's my goal.
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So our audience might be surprised to
know that you're actually friends with
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one of our previous guests on Break
Fix, a lady by the name of Miss Mary
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Hague, who was on here talking about
her STEM program known as Moon Mark,
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where they're doing a lunar race.
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And Tanya was on that episode as well.
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Mary and I go back, she's friends
we met at the track and uh, always a
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delight to have on the show, but you're
personal friends with her, obviously
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coming up through the Philadelphia area.
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So in the vein of that episode
that we did, we talked a lot about.
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Dem and a lot about inclusion and
diversity and things like that.
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Well, you mentioned your prior podcast
with Mary Hague and I happened to just
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go to the auto show with her last Friday,
so we were hanging out and I brought my
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26-year-old son along and the two of them
met that evening and chatted for hours.
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It seemed like Mary is the best.
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She's another dynamo of so many dynamos.
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A lot of folks often confuse.
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Getting into racing with having
to have some sort of engineering
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or technical background.
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I wanted to get your opinion as you're
working on these clinics as to what are
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some of the barriers to entry into racing?
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Is it really as difficult
as people make it seem?
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Is it really that geeky?
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Do you need a background in hard
sciences to get involved in racing?
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It's not difficult to get involved
'cause I use myself as an example.
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I was a mother of two toddlers and
have a bachelor's in Russian and
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do not speak English terribly well.
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And I registered, showed up and my
first event happened to be with the
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BMW Club even though I had a Porsche.
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People are welcoming into this.
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And it is not at all necessary
to be mechanically knowledgeable
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or anything geek like you can
just show up and have some fun.
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And the impetus for me
to do it was to go fast.
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I'll circle back to the clinics thing
'cause I find that very interesting.
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You mentioned that you're just from
the Philadelphia area, so are you
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across the United States having
impact, or right now you're localized
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in the northeast, Mid-Atlantic
region, or what's the goal there?
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The goal is to have worldwide,
let alone nationwide.
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I'm dating myself here
by having home economics.
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We learned how to sew, hems and cook.
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So instead, I think there should be
car maintenance class, maybe a three
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to four series workshop or class.
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And along with check balancing, um,
that's called race car budgeting.
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Call that Porsche dollars.
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Get it.
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Porsche.
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There's a Porsche tax.
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Don't forget.
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Oh yes.
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Trust me.
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I just went through that.
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I think your clinic
aspect is really great.
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So what are you doing there specifically?
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Like what are some of the activities?
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Is it you got your race car there
and you're doing demonstrations, or
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are you doing even mini STEM type?
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Activities, they're building something
or I have a handout that, number one, I
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let them try on fire suits and helmets.
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And again, this was all pre COVID because
with COVID I haven't done any workshops or
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clinics, which makes perfect sense to me.
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Prior to that, just engaging the kids in
safety and asking me questions and you
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know, saying, oh, the guy's being macho.
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I'm sorry, I'm being sexist again.
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But the young men are always showing
off and saying, oh, I would be
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able to really race really fast.
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I always say to them, you can race
really fast in a straight line,
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but what if you have to turn right?
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You know, like at Watkins
Glen in the bus stop.
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So I don't use that terminology with them.
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It comes more naturally and flows
when there's a bunch of kids around.
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Revving the engine.
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Talking about safety first.
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Put your seat belts on no matter what.
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At any point in the car, I get them to
sign my helmet and pledge that they will
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in fact tell all of their friends and
family members to put their seat belts on
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the second there, butt hits the seat, and
sometimes I bring in Lori Johnson again.
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Somebody else I'm giving a shout out to.
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Laurie Johnson's of Lady Start Your
Engines, does workshops and clinics
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and sometimes I let her take over and
do the clinic, and she is wonderful.
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She's a mechanic.
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Right now I'm located in the
Philadelphia area, and of course
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we went to Seabring in 2016.
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This is obviously something
that should be offered.
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I don't care whether it's under the
auspices of MORacing or just becomes
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part of the curriculum for middle
school and lower education so that we
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can get some petrol heads developed.
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By age 10 if we need more of that.
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And not even just for, you know, no
offense to the men out there, but there's
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a lot of guys that dunno how to change
their own, uh, wheel or tire either.
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So, exactly.
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And that brings us to the male allies.
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Again, I have a personal story
about that for the people who are
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behind the scenes of MORacing.
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My co-owner of the car
is a coach and racer and.
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Without him, I would not be doing this.
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He and my pals that we do two-wheeled
Tuesdays, which is we hang out in the
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garage and have beers and work on cars.
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And the personal side of the story
is one of the guys that I hang out
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with actually had breast cancer.
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So how's that for non-traditional and
stereotypes and breaking the biases?
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There you go.
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I have somebody on my team who does a
lot of work on radio with me in such
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day of event who had breast cancer and
survived, and it happened to be a male.
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It's rare, but it, it can
happen, unfortunately.
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Yes.
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I mean, it sounds like you've been
very fortunate with all the male allies
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as you've gone through this journey.
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Have you had the opposite?
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Because I've been doing HPD
events for years now, and even
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before that in non-competitive
go-karting events where you're just
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going to the, you know, indoor.
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Tracks for fun and, and unfortunately
I've been the recipient of the not ally
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side of things where I had a guy on
the go-kart track try to take me out.
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He t-boned me and his cart was about
two inches from hitting my helmet.
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'cause that's how far he rode up.
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Out of anger that I was.
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Faster than him in a
non-competitive event.
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Oh, and I've gotten, and
that's something unfortunate.
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Fortunately, the male friends of
mine and family members may or
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may not have spun him out later.
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All right.
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Payback is, you know what, in retaliation
of having witnessed it, you know her hand.
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I'm sorry that happened to you.
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It's unfortunate, you know, and I,
and I go to the track and I get the
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guys that are really excited when
they see you and they're like, wow,
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you're changing your tires yourself.
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That's so cool.
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And they stare at you like they've
seen, I don't know, some foreign
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animal they've never seen before.
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Or I've gotten to people
that kind of laugh at me.
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You're going on the track in that.
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Really.
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And then after I've done a session,
they, they come back up and they're
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like, wow, you're really fast out there.
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I'm like, thank you.
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Okay, good to me.
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That's great.
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Thank you for your bias.
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I mean, have you been lucky and
been on the fortunate side of the
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allies or have you experienced some
of the, the negative stereotyping?
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Well, you just reminded me of
one of my favorite stories.
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I was at Summit Point.
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Changing out my own brake pads at the
track and everybody wanted to help.
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And I said, absolutely not.
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I wanted to do this myself so
that I know that I can do it.
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And I actually had one of my male allies
stood there as I was working, turned
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people away who were offering their help.
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Hmm.
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Because I had it covered.
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If we're gonna name drop
now, I'm gonna name drop.
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Don Cox was my instructor.
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At Pocono and Don Cox
should mean something if you
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follow Penske Racing at all.
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He was the chief engineer for seven
Indie wins and many, many, many other
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inventions and things like that.
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He was my instructor and has been my bow
and pal and buddy, whatever you wanna
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call it, for the last almost 20 years.
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Do I ever get the sexist garbage
of, where's your husband?
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Are your sons here?
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What are you doing here?
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Kind of thing.
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You ask if I had luck.
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I think I created my luck in that.
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I don't have any tolerance for
being treated any differently, and
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my passion and dream is to someday
have an all women's racing team.
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Have nobody know that it's an all
women's racing team until everybody takes
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their helmets and gear off at the end.
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You know, flowing hair of whatever color.
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Preferably not blonde, but yes, us
brunettes need our time in the light.
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Damn straight.
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So I have to ask this question.
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Because both of you have probably
similar experiences, but on
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different ends of the pendulum swing.
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And what I mean by that is a couple
of years ago, Tanya stepped out
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of doing DE and became a coach.
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And Maureen, you've been a
coach for many, many years.
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What I mean by sharing in the
experiences, probably being the only
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female coach in the room and then
dealing with that come game day,
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you know, being in the right seat.
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So maybe you guys wanna discuss
what that was like from both
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sides and compare swap stories.
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Well, let me clarify.
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This is particularly important
that I am not an instructor.
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I loan out my car and I'm an advocate
for women, and I'm well known as a pest,
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but I have never sat right seat because I
thought that people were crazy to do that.
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Tanya, nothing against you, but I
had two sons that I was bringing up.
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I always said, we are wearing helmets,
we have the harnesses, and we're all
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going one direction, so we're safer.
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But I just never felt comfortable.
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I think I could have been an
instructor, but I never went that route.
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I went more the route of running a car.
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We campaigned, like I mentioned,
a couple cars and Porsche Club.
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So Tanya, tell me about your instructing.
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That's fantastic to me.
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Again, small percentage.
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It is small percentage.
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I'm honestly getting more accolades
than I deserve 'cause I really
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haven't had a chance to do much.
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In terms of instructing, thanks to
COVID, I was able to get out at a
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few events and then, you know, we all
locked down and haven't done anything
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for a couple years, so maybe this year.
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Come out of hibernation even so, I
mean, not even being a coach, just
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attending HPDE events, it's usually
me, and maybe you see two other
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women in the paddock that aren't
there supporting somebody else.
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They're actually getting
in the car and and running.
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They say that you are the culmination
of all of your previous instructors,
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especially in HPD, right?
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You everybody has a natural
driving style for the street,
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but when you come to the track.
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You are this homologation to
use a racing term of all of your
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instructors, good, bad, or indifferent.
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You've learned something from everybody
to the point that you guys are making.
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It's very rare to see a
woman in the classroom.
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They're teaching amongst the men,
and I've had the privilege of having
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several female coaches over the
years, and I've taken a lot more
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away from those coaches than I did.
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Even some of the men, one,
especially Ms. Ellen Gutar.
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Thank her because her teaching style,
especially when I was running with PCA
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many years ago, was so different that
it opened my eyes up and I borrowed
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some of her techniques that I still use
today when I'm teaching my students.
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It's different, but again, I
have to give her a big shout.
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And I think Tanya too, there was a
Canadian coach that she had running
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a Mustang convertible many years
ago at an event we went to that
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you had an awesome experience with.
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Yeah.
457
00:25:07,715 --> 00:25:09,965
When you said that, I had to think,
I was like, I haven't had very
458
00:25:09,965 --> 00:25:12,245
many women coaches, and now as I'm.
459
00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:16,550
Think back, I've had three in
the early days when I was still
460
00:25:16,550 --> 00:25:18,230
being instructed and whatnot.
461
00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:22,219
Sounds like a lot, but it really isn't
because they were basically each,
462
00:25:22,219 --> 00:25:26,090
the only woman there at that event
and they partnered you up because
463
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:28,370
you know, it's like, oh, you drive
a front wheel drive, we're gonna
464
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:29,419
put you in a front wheel drive car.
465
00:25:29,419 --> 00:25:29,719
There you go.
466
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:30,379
Yeah.
467
00:25:30,770 --> 00:25:33,169
They were three different events,
but basically, yeah, they were
468
00:25:33,169 --> 00:25:35,209
each the only woman instructor at.
469
00:25:35,485 --> 00:25:38,425
Any of those events in a sea of,
I don't know, whatever, there'll
470
00:25:38,425 --> 00:25:40,735
be 20, 30 male instructors.
471
00:25:40,975 --> 00:25:43,255
So yeah, I mean, it's definitely
a different perspective when
472
00:25:43,255 --> 00:25:45,085
you're in the seat with a female.
473
00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:49,165
I, I don't know, their style
is just slightly different.
474
00:25:49,165 --> 00:25:51,145
You know nothing against the men and it's.
475
00:25:51,195 --> 00:25:55,304
I don't even know if it's necessarily,
you just have a different understanding
476
00:25:55,304 --> 00:25:56,385
'cause you both are female.
477
00:25:56,385 --> 00:25:59,655
You, you know, in the back of your
minds this is like a big deal that
478
00:25:59,745 --> 00:26:03,645
you're here both doing it together
and you're in the sea of other men and
479
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:07,425
it feels really good and empowering
when you're passing, you know?
480
00:26:07,425 --> 00:26:07,435
Yes.
481
00:26:08,045 --> 00:26:11,885
The guys and their, you know, no
offense, their Porsches and I'm
482
00:26:11,885 --> 00:26:13,685
in this low horsepower car, bye.
483
00:26:15,395 --> 00:26:18,155
And it's like you got that girl power
moment going on that you don't quite
484
00:26:18,155 --> 00:26:22,295
get the same thrill or empowerment if
there's a male instructor in the car.
485
00:26:22,295 --> 00:26:25,865
Not that it's not exciting to still pass
people, but I'll flip that coin around
486
00:26:25,865 --> 00:26:30,395
and I'll openly admit, we men can be
hyper aggressive sometimes, and I actually
487
00:26:30,395 --> 00:26:32,315
found that the female coaches that I had.
488
00:26:32,415 --> 00:26:35,235
You kind of check that at the
door, and I will admit that they
489
00:26:35,235 --> 00:26:36,735
were actually more technical.
490
00:26:36,735 --> 00:26:40,665
As much as we pride ourselves as men is
being super technical and knowing all
491
00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:43,425
about, you know, it's a 13 millimeter
and you turn it to this torque spect,
492
00:26:43,605 --> 00:26:46,245
that's all just nerd Wikipedia stuff.
493
00:26:46,514 --> 00:26:51,405
But when it came down to the finesse part,
the really technical aspects of driving
494
00:26:51,885 --> 00:26:53,655
it was more like learning how to dance.
495
00:26:53,655 --> 00:26:54,940
There was a rhythm to it, loved it.
496
00:26:54,945 --> 00:26:57,135
And there was just a different
way of teaching that.
497
00:26:57,135 --> 00:27:00,045
Again, I've embraced that and
I loved it, and it was one of
498
00:27:00,045 --> 00:27:01,065
those things that it was just.
499
00:27:01,225 --> 00:27:05,635
So refreshing and, and yet so rare at
the same time, I hate to say with, I
500
00:27:05,635 --> 00:27:08,935
can get in cars with other guys, and
I, I kind of know what I'm gonna get.
501
00:27:08,935 --> 00:27:10,375
It's written right on the packaging.
502
00:27:10,885 --> 00:27:13,675
I'm making a gross generality here,
but every once in a while there's
503
00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:16,465
that bluebird that just appears and
you're like, wow, that was amazing.
504
00:27:16,465 --> 00:27:17,970
I. Totally blew my mind.
505
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,670
And those are the types of
experiences that I've had over
506
00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:22,080
the years with female coaches.
507
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,940
So again, I wanna encourage more women to
step up and get out of intermediate group.
508
00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:30,030
You know, we do see women out there on
the track and, and take the chance, get
509
00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:31,740
in the right seat and become a coach.
510
00:27:31,889 --> 00:27:33,060
I was gonna say, you've just.
511
00:27:33,075 --> 00:27:35,505
Talked about my mission at MORacing.
512
00:27:35,565 --> 00:27:39,765
In order to be an instructor, you
have to be an advanced student
513
00:27:39,765 --> 00:27:43,185
and in order to be an instructor
you could potentially be a racer.
514
00:27:43,185 --> 00:27:46,455
Hint, Tanya, you would be welcome anytime.
515
00:27:46,575 --> 00:27:46,755
Thank you.
516
00:27:46,755 --> 00:27:51,255
Come construct or guest
drive my new used 9, 9 7.
517
00:27:51,315 --> 00:27:53,445
Seriously, that's an open invitation.
518
00:27:53,535 --> 00:27:55,245
You just gave me a flashback.
519
00:27:55,275 --> 00:27:59,325
I am in the reason Toter region,
which is Philadelphia, greater
520
00:27:59,325 --> 00:28:01,455
area, and I think it means.
521
00:28:01,610 --> 00:28:08,719
Monster Slayer in German, recent to has
a lot of female instructors, of which I
522
00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:13,459
really learned a lot, and you just gave me
a flashback at Summit Point, her saying,
523
00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:17,449
come on, why are you lifting a little,
you, you know, you've got this, you've
524
00:28:17,449 --> 00:28:19,669
got this, and you can pass these guys.
525
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:20,870
They're not as good as you.
526
00:28:20,959 --> 00:28:26,300
And to have that voice in my head
was incredible and so empowering.
527
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:27,584
And then there were several.
528
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,899
Women coaches, and I mentioned
that Pippa mam, I had her come
529
00:28:31,899 --> 00:28:34,210
and instruct two female drivers.
530
00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:39,580
She jumped in with our chief instructor
and he absolutely was in heaven
531
00:28:39,639 --> 00:28:43,360
because she can really instruct and
I think she has the record for the
532
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,135
fastest time in the 500 for a woman.
533
00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:46,720
Wow.
534
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,930
So she was quite a instructor and coach.
535
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:51,370
There's a lot of things you'll hear.
536
00:28:51,370 --> 00:28:55,360
They actually say that not to toot our
horn, that women tend to actually be,
537
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,230
you mentioned they're more technical
giving the instructions, but they
538
00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:02,890
also, there's a lot of evidence that
women can tend to be a little more
539
00:29:02,890 --> 00:29:05,200
technical in their driving style too.
540
00:29:05,290 --> 00:29:06,460
They're a little more consistent.
541
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:07,540
They're a little more precise.
542
00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:12,220
They don't quite get that red mist as
easily as the men folk do sometimes.
543
00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:12,970
And I remember.
544
00:29:12,985 --> 00:29:17,995
Many years ago, our father was
very big into autocross, chair
545
00:29:17,995 --> 00:29:21,955
of autocross, and he set up the
courses and, and did all that stuff.
546
00:29:21,955 --> 00:29:23,245
And he even did pro solos.
547
00:29:23,245 --> 00:29:25,945
He was competitive, you know,
top of game and things like that.
548
00:29:26,544 --> 00:29:28,975
And he would host the driver's clinics.
549
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:31,225
They were always at the beginning
of the autocross season where
550
00:29:31,254 --> 00:29:34,284
you'd, you'd have, like for people
who are unfamiliar, they'd set up.
551
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:39,110
Little skid pads and slalom and late
breaking and threshold, breaking miniature
552
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,740
exercises, and you kind of go around
to each of these stations all day long.
553
00:29:43,220 --> 00:29:46,250
You would practice the techniques and
then it would culminate in an actual
554
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:49,520
alto cross where they'd set up the
big course and then you'd go do laps.
555
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,439
And I participated in one
of these, and this was.
556
00:29:51,525 --> 00:29:56,955
Very early in my general driving
career, I don't even remember if I
557
00:29:56,955 --> 00:30:00,585
was licensed yet, or I, I might've
had to have been to participate.
558
00:30:00,645 --> 00:30:01,665
I forget the name of the guy.
559
00:30:01,665 --> 00:30:02,925
He had the Green nine 14.
560
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:04,830
One of my instructors
for one of the, uh, Ken.
561
00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:06,645
Ken, not, yes, Ken.
562
00:30:07,005 --> 00:30:07,255
He, Ken.
563
00:30:07,255 --> 00:30:10,455
Ken is my instructor for some of the,
the late breaking exercises, and I
564
00:30:10,455 --> 00:30:14,895
remember him telling me that I actually
had an advantage over the men because.
565
00:30:15,130 --> 00:30:19,390
The way we depress the pedals on
the balls of our feet versus not is
566
00:30:19,390 --> 00:30:21,880
something of an advantage to us as women.
567
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,150
'cause of the, basically the shoes we
wear and the way we're used to walking.
568
00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:28,570
And so we actually have a
little more finessing control
569
00:30:28,930 --> 00:30:30,640
than than guys generally do.
570
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,460
So that's kind of always stuck
with me too and found it funny, the
571
00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:34,810
differences between men and women.
572
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:38,560
But at the end of the day,
the machines that perel us
573
00:30:38,590 --> 00:30:39,940
can make us all equally fast.
574
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:40,370
Right.
575
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:41,360
Love it.
576
00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:44,570
You're stealing all my lines.
577
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,950
Sorry, Maureen.
578
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:46,639
What can I do?
579
00:30:46,639 --> 00:30:46,879
Right.
580
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,490
If you could change something about
racing even on the local level to
581
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:56,450
make it more inviting, especially to
women, what is that thing that needs
582
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:58,524
to change to just drop the wall down?
583
00:30:58,865 --> 00:30:59,615
Make it even easier.
584
00:30:59,615 --> 00:31:03,065
I know you're doing a lot of work, but
as you assess all these organizations, if
585
00:31:03,065 --> 00:31:06,875
you could give them one recommendation,
one piece of consulting to make it
586
00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:08,195
more inviting, what would that be?
587
00:31:08,345 --> 00:31:11,255
Make it into kind of like golf outings.
588
00:31:11,345 --> 00:31:15,305
Instead of having golf outings,
we should have country clubs.
589
00:31:15,425 --> 00:31:19,685
At racetracks, you become
a member for a nominal fee.
590
00:31:19,685 --> 00:31:24,605
Not some crazy country club fee come out
on a Wednesday night or Tuesday night.
591
00:31:24,729 --> 00:31:29,379
Saturday or Sunday and you bring
your family and they spectate
592
00:31:29,409 --> 00:31:33,699
or come along with you sons or
daughters or whatever and drive.
593
00:31:33,939 --> 00:31:35,350
I would like to normalize it.
594
00:31:35,379 --> 00:31:36,939
That's what I would like to see happen.
595
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,800
The more women there would be would
be nice just to show that, you
596
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,449
know, we belong there too, right?
597
00:31:43,449 --> 00:31:46,899
I mean it think it's stereotypes that
get built from when we're young that
598
00:31:46,959 --> 00:31:48,280
the girl gets handed, the Barbie doll.
599
00:31:48,530 --> 00:31:53,810
The boy gets handed Matchbox car and
the two shall not cross when who cares?
600
00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:57,560
Everybody can do or play with, you know
what they want and there's nothing.
601
00:31:57,649 --> 00:32:00,649
They should hold women back
from something like a car.
602
00:32:00,770 --> 00:32:02,240
We can all learn this stuff.
603
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,170
So I think it's great.
604
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,389
When you talked about the clinics
of introducing that early on to
605
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:12,200
young girls, or even if eventually
young boys are in the program too.
606
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:12,649
Yes.
607
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,990
Um, but specifically,
you know, young girls.
608
00:32:15,035 --> 00:32:18,095
So that they know that they don't need
to be afraid of this stuff because
609
00:32:18,095 --> 00:32:22,835
it, in the long run, it's detrimental
to women because as they get older
610
00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:25,805
and they haven't been exposed to
this, they're taken advantage of.
611
00:32:25,955 --> 00:32:26,675
We know this.
612
00:32:27,005 --> 00:32:29,975
You bought your first car and you needed
to go to the dealer, the auto body
613
00:32:29,975 --> 00:32:34,535
shop, or the auto repair shop and get
your car worked on, and the guy sees
614
00:32:34,535 --> 00:32:36,725
the woman walking in and he ain't just.
615
00:32:36,855 --> 00:32:39,435
Sit back and he is ready for the ride.
616
00:32:39,435 --> 00:32:42,735
'cause he knows he is gonna
sell blinker fluid, uh, Uhhuh,
617
00:32:42,735 --> 00:32:44,535
unfortunately to her or something.
618
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:46,620
I love it.
619
00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:46,900
Right.
620
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,865
And I love it.
621
00:32:47,865 --> 00:32:51,435
You know, I'm, I'm not trying
to put our gender down.
622
00:32:51,435 --> 00:32:52,935
I mean, it happens to the men folk too.
623
00:32:52,935 --> 00:32:53,535
Let's be real.
624
00:32:53,535 --> 00:32:57,315
There's plenty that don't know
a lug nut from the windshield
625
00:32:57,315 --> 00:32:58,395
wiper blade either, but.
626
00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:02,950
Seems to be forced or
perpetuated on women a lot more.
627
00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:08,470
Maureen, in 2019, you left your job at
Drexel Institute's, uh, women's health
628
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:10,270
to become a mechanics apprentice.
629
00:33:10,270 --> 00:33:11,740
What led you to do that?
630
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:13,240
What, what made you make that decision?
631
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:17,139
I actually left the Institute for Women's
Health and Leadership where I was the
632
00:33:17,139 --> 00:33:22,750
event specialist for 16 and a half years,
loving my job every single day because
633
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,790
of what I got to do, making a difference.
634
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,429
In women's lives.
635
00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:31,379
I had this dream that I had reached
my pinnacle there and wanted to
636
00:33:31,379 --> 00:33:36,960
start MORacing as a true initiative,
and then had life events with my
637
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,159
father being ill and then passing
away, et cetera, real life things.
638
00:33:41,334 --> 00:33:42,534
Then COVID.
639
00:33:42,625 --> 00:33:47,274
It really started taking off and
manifesting itself, so to speak.
640
00:33:47,395 --> 00:33:51,504
I knew that this was my passion and
that I would certainly not have a
641
00:33:51,504 --> 00:33:55,675
lot more time in my life that I could
resign from a job and pursue it.
642
00:33:55,764 --> 00:33:58,314
So again, my timing was a little off.
643
00:33:58,345 --> 00:34:02,395
With a pandemic starting now, I
feel it's picking up again and
644
00:34:02,455 --> 00:34:04,044
it's going to come to fruition.
645
00:34:04,195 --> 00:34:06,800
What's the hardest thing about
being a mechanic that is?
646
00:34:07,235 --> 00:34:09,094
The true physicality of it.
647
00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:10,955
I am no spring chicken.
648
00:34:11,194 --> 00:34:15,755
I just rotated tires this morning
and I balanced tires and I did
649
00:34:15,755 --> 00:34:18,065
my own rear brakes on my BMW.
650
00:34:18,275 --> 00:34:22,594
I can do almost anything that I've
been taught in the last year plus,
651
00:34:22,654 --> 00:34:27,574
but lifting is something that I
find to be a challenge, but if I
652
00:34:27,574 --> 00:34:29,674
really want to, I use my tools.
653
00:34:29,705 --> 00:34:32,855
In other words, I can change
out tires not high up on the
654
00:34:32,855 --> 00:34:35,284
lift, lower down, I can do it.
655
00:34:35,565 --> 00:34:37,995
It's just, I wish I had the rock.
656
00:34:38,085 --> 00:34:41,205
I wish I had his muscles
and my brain power.
657
00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:43,125
I, I understand that part.
658
00:34:43,125 --> 00:34:48,735
I often am, uh, get foiled in my endeavors
when I don't have enough strength to un
659
00:34:48,735 --> 00:34:53,505
loosen some bolt that I can't get off,
and then it's like deflated and defeated.
660
00:34:53,594 --> 00:34:54,585
Can you come help me?
661
00:34:56,714 --> 00:34:58,335
They need your help too.
662
00:34:58,935 --> 00:34:58,995
Yeah.
663
00:34:59,085 --> 00:35:00,850
I'll bet you you've
helped somebody else out.
664
00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:03,649
It's not that I didn't know
what I was doing, it is just
665
00:35:03,649 --> 00:35:04,730
I need to go to the gym more.
666
00:35:05,629 --> 00:35:09,259
My answer to her usually is, do
you have a longer cheater bar?
667
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,330
And normally I don't.
668
00:35:11,330 --> 00:35:12,200
Trust me, I've thought of it.
669
00:35:14,089 --> 00:35:17,209
You had mentioned women walking
into the dealer, et cetera.
670
00:35:17,209 --> 00:35:20,569
Also women being told that
they need a new air filter.
671
00:35:20,725 --> 00:35:23,995
And a new battery being taken
advantage of that they had a
672
00:35:23,995 --> 00:35:25,945
new air filter six weeks ago.
673
00:35:26,035 --> 00:35:26,125
Mm-hmm.
674
00:35:26,395 --> 00:35:32,515
So that price gouging, I love to teach
to be aware of that and simple things
675
00:35:32,515 --> 00:35:36,415
like if you're going out in high heel
shoes in your car, that you should have
676
00:35:36,415 --> 00:35:38,095
an old pair of sneakers in the trunk.
677
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:41,735
To, to be realistic, I don't
wear high heel shoes anymore.
678
00:35:41,735 --> 00:35:42,335
I'm old.
679
00:35:42,335 --> 00:35:45,935
So for those of you out there,
male and female who wear high heel
680
00:35:45,935 --> 00:35:49,055
shoes, make sure you have some
sneakers in the back of your car.
681
00:35:49,115 --> 00:35:52,355
There's nothing more exciting when you
go to put the clutch in and your foot
682
00:35:52,355 --> 00:35:56,320
slides straight off because you've got no
traction underneath that high heel shoe.
683
00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:57,800
Exactly.
684
00:35:59,175 --> 00:36:00,015
Exactly.
685
00:36:00,075 --> 00:36:01,125
You only gotta do that once.
686
00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:06,315
And you realize, yeah, look, flip flops
in the car is a good idea barefoot.
687
00:36:06,645 --> 00:36:07,005
Sorry.
688
00:36:07,005 --> 00:36:10,515
But racing shoes are my
preferred way to go all the time.
689
00:36:10,515 --> 00:36:13,305
I wear Pilates as my daily
shoes, so it's all good.
690
00:36:13,305 --> 00:36:18,405
Well, I, I, I can't wear Pilates to work,
you know, but that's, it's all good.
691
00:36:18,495 --> 00:36:19,485
Mine are pink, by the way.
692
00:36:19,485 --> 00:36:22,300
My daughter's bought them for me for
Christmas, so I'm very proud of that fact.
693
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:22,580
I love it.
694
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:23,690
Love it.
695
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:27,740
Maureen, let's dive a little deeper into
some of the drivers you've worked with.
696
00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:30,230
You've name dropped Pippa man a few times.
697
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:33,350
Is there anybody else of note that's
working with you on the program or
698
00:36:33,350 --> 00:36:37,490
have you worked with on other programs
as well that Menfolk might recognize?
699
00:36:38,510 --> 00:36:40,460
Menfolk would recognize?
700
00:36:40,475 --> 00:36:45,634
Don Cox because for the last 20 years
we've been hanging out, so to speak.
701
00:36:45,694 --> 00:36:49,775
The amount of knowledge that he
has imparted on me and the fact
702
00:36:49,775 --> 00:36:54,154
that these other drivers are like,
do you realize how smart he is?
703
00:36:54,154 --> 00:36:55,115
Et cetera, et cetera.
704
00:36:55,115 --> 00:36:55,475
So.
705
00:36:55,565 --> 00:37:00,245
I actually have crewed for him where
he actually has depended on me,
706
00:37:00,245 --> 00:37:05,135
and this is a former Penske chief
engineer, so that's a lot of pressure.
707
00:37:05,195 --> 00:37:10,805
I could take any named race car driver and
they're probably not as picky as he is.
708
00:37:10,865 --> 00:37:14,855
So names of race, car drivers
know Pippa's, probably the most
709
00:37:14,855 --> 00:37:17,345
recognizable and Christina Lamb.
710
00:37:17,515 --> 00:37:22,734
Is a hell of a driver and she was
down at Sebring and we entered
711
00:37:22,734 --> 00:37:26,560
A BMW into the Enduro race and
they actually won in their class.
712
00:37:27,315 --> 00:37:32,775
Amy Dikes, Christina Lamb, you
know Sue Bame, who is a banker and
713
00:37:32,895 --> 00:37:34,904
another person who is an attorney.
714
00:37:34,935 --> 00:37:38,475
And then I had somebody come out
with their son, a mom and son.
715
00:37:38,475 --> 00:37:44,475
Team names are not big because I'm trying
to really do this on the grassroots level.
716
00:37:44,565 --> 00:37:46,634
Those are the type of people I'm after.
717
00:37:46,755 --> 00:37:52,545
And then I'll pass whomever along
to shift up now, or now you guys.
718
00:37:52,694 --> 00:37:56,625
So for the named drivers, there's
not a lot other than Pippa.
719
00:37:56,705 --> 00:37:58,625
But a lot of potential good drivers.
720
00:37:58,715 --> 00:37:59,795
You have to start somewhere.
721
00:37:59,855 --> 00:38:03,245
The work you're trying to do is
incredibly important because without
722
00:38:03,245 --> 00:38:08,404
the representation, it's critical for
every gender or, you know, race or
723
00:38:08,404 --> 00:38:13,745
et cetera, is if you don't see others
like you in that profession or in that
724
00:38:13,745 --> 00:38:18,755
area, in that whatever, then you have
a hard time seeing yourself there.
725
00:38:18,815 --> 00:38:22,475
And so having that representation
and getting people to realize it has
726
00:38:22,475 --> 00:38:25,145
nothing to do with gender or anything.
727
00:38:25,145 --> 00:38:29,135
It's just if you try and you apply
yourself, you have the capability
728
00:38:29,135 --> 00:38:31,175
and capacity to do these things.
729
00:38:31,175 --> 00:38:34,115
Now, you might find that you don't
like them, and that's perfectly
730
00:38:34,115 --> 00:38:36,425
fine, but don't limit yourself.
731
00:38:36,665 --> 00:38:39,575
To, oh, boys play with matchbox cars.
732
00:38:39,575 --> 00:38:42,335
So I couldn't possibly, so I think
it's wonderful what you're doing.
733
00:38:42,395 --> 00:38:43,265
Keep, keep going.
734
00:38:43,925 --> 00:38:48,845
Well, we call that you have to see it to
be it that if you just take it for granted
735
00:38:48,845 --> 00:38:51,695
that Lynn St. James was driving her pinto.
736
00:38:51,785 --> 00:38:52,175
Yes.
737
00:38:52,175 --> 00:38:56,075
She drove a Pinto and her famous
story is she drove it into a
738
00:38:56,075 --> 00:38:57,845
lake or a pond or something.
739
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:58,629
For real.
740
00:38:58,690 --> 00:39:02,589
If you can see these other women
doing it, then you can be it.
741
00:39:02,589 --> 00:39:08,859
And I'm also not just women, I believe
that any minority or unrepresented
742
00:39:08,890 --> 00:39:10,660
group should also be involved.
743
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:15,879
So I am very excited when I see somebody
of color, you know, either over the
744
00:39:15,879 --> 00:39:20,049
wall tire changer, I can't think of
her name right now, but NASCAR Tire
745
00:39:20,049 --> 00:39:22,390
Changer and numerous other people.
746
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,274
A good friend of mine is the
safety steward for Reason Toter.
747
00:39:26,595 --> 00:39:30,794
She's out there in the pits telling
everybody what the hell to do on grid.
748
00:39:30,915 --> 00:39:35,115
She is a powerhouse and
her name is Svia Fernandez.
749
00:39:35,384 --> 00:39:35,745
Yeah.
750
00:39:35,745 --> 00:39:39,915
So in this vein of, you know, getting
the representation out there and, and you
751
00:39:39,915 --> 00:39:45,464
know, having other young women or other
women see women behind the pit wall or in
752
00:39:45,464 --> 00:39:50,504
the car, or either side of the pit wall,
what obstacles are you facing and, and
753
00:39:50,504 --> 00:39:55,845
how are you overcoming them in regards to
getting men on board and really, truly.
754
00:39:55,980 --> 00:40:00,360
Seeing these women that are changing
the tires or helping read the
755
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,490
data, having those guys see them as
true peers and really taking them
756
00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:10,200
seriously, seeing somebody in action
is the best way to get things done.
757
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:15,150
So I am trained in motech data
acquisition and I also, I dabble
758
00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:20,520
with AIM data acquisitions, getting
guys to believe in me when I can
759
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:22,145
say, here's where you are not.
760
00:40:22,515 --> 00:40:23,685
Full on the throttle.
761
00:40:23,685 --> 00:40:25,424
Here's where you are breaking early.
762
00:40:25,424 --> 00:40:26,714
Here's where you're breaking late.
763
00:40:26,745 --> 00:40:28,395
Here's your fuel consumption.
764
00:40:28,455 --> 00:40:30,495
Your whole suit is broken.
765
00:40:30,555 --> 00:40:31,995
It's 110 degrees.
766
00:40:31,995 --> 00:40:33,884
Now what are we gonna do about it?
767
00:40:34,004 --> 00:40:35,025
Et cetera, et cetera.
768
00:40:35,025 --> 00:40:39,134
All kinds of things that, again,
action is the best example I think.
769
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:40,510
Proof is in the pudding.
770
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:41,440
Thank you.
771
00:40:41,770 --> 00:40:45,820
So that actually leads into another great
conversation we've had many times before.
772
00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:48,970
There's this fallacy that you
need a race car to go racing.
773
00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:52,180
So when you're talking to young
ladies that might be interested in
774
00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:56,170
motor sport, how do you get them to
overcome that and realize they can
775
00:40:56,170 --> 00:40:57,610
just show up with their daily driver?
776
00:40:57,620 --> 00:41:01,970
Well, that's exactly what I say is you
can show up with your daily driver and in
777
00:41:01,970 --> 00:41:04,220
fact, that is a much better experience.
778
00:41:04,279 --> 00:41:07,670
What I find in the high performance
driver's ed, is people showing up
779
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:12,799
in twin turbos and crazy, crazy fast
cars that they should not be driving.
780
00:41:12,799 --> 00:41:14,330
Yes, that's the mother in me.
781
00:41:14,505 --> 00:41:17,745
As novices that we learned
with Momentum cars.
782
00:41:18,135 --> 00:41:23,325
Porsche Cup car is a beautiful race car
and I was really lucky to be able to
783
00:41:23,325 --> 00:41:25,575
purchase that and drive it for a year.
784
00:41:25,575 --> 00:41:29,055
And my mentioned before
my race car engineer had
785
00:41:29,055 --> 00:41:30,435
something to do with that car.
786
00:41:30,435 --> 00:41:34,755
He had modified it completely, so it
was like a go-kart wrapped around me.
787
00:41:34,755 --> 00:41:37,665
Now I went to that extreme of the cup car.
788
00:41:37,980 --> 00:41:43,500
The other thing for daily drivers
is I've taken and lent my BMW 3
789
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:48,660
28 xxi to some women drivers and
my son to do hooked on driving.
790
00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:53,190
I actually more enjoy a
streetcar and learning how.
791
00:41:53,245 --> 00:41:57,234
It can perform to driving an all
out race car because you have
792
00:41:57,234 --> 00:41:59,125
to start as a novice anyway.
793
00:41:59,214 --> 00:42:02,875
And so again, I would love
to have a driving school.
794
00:42:02,875 --> 00:42:07,884
I was lucky enough to do Skip Barber,
which they gave me buy one get one free
795
00:42:07,915 --> 00:42:10,975
because of their belief in my MORacing.
796
00:42:11,275 --> 00:42:15,569
There should be a MORacing school
that brings your streetcar, have
797
00:42:15,569 --> 00:42:18,955
it teched, and go out and drive
with instructors like Tanya.
798
00:42:19,944 --> 00:42:22,944
I mean, it's a very intimidating sport.
799
00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:26,200
A lot of people, you know, they find
out, you know, I kind of do this, and
800
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,709
they're not necessarily car enthusiasts
at all, so they're unaware that these
801
00:42:29,709 --> 00:42:31,689
type of activities can even happen.
802
00:42:31,689 --> 00:42:33,430
And you know, they have that wow moment.
803
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:34,629
It's like, really?
804
00:42:34,629 --> 00:42:35,799
Well, what do you drive?
805
00:42:35,799 --> 00:42:39,879
I'm like, well, I drive X, Y, Z, or I've
driven X, Y, Z. And they're like, wow.
806
00:42:39,879 --> 00:42:43,330
And I'm like, you could take your Toyota
Corolla if that's what you drive, or
807
00:42:43,330 --> 00:42:45,160
your Honda Civic, your Honda Accord.
808
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,584
I've seen it.
809
00:42:46,025 --> 00:42:49,295
I was like, I told 'em, I've seen a
Honda Accord out there playing Jane.
810
00:42:49,835 --> 00:42:54,665
And you know, that person wasn't
passing the Porsches down the straits,
811
00:42:54,665 --> 00:42:57,275
but they were having a good time
and they were learning something,
812
00:42:57,545 --> 00:42:58,655
and that's all that matters.
813
00:42:58,655 --> 00:43:02,135
So there's also that intimidation
that people have that they
814
00:43:02,135 --> 00:43:03,545
think they can't get into it.
815
00:43:03,610 --> 00:43:06,130
When you're exactly right,
just take your streetcar.
816
00:43:06,490 --> 00:43:09,700
All you gotta do is make sure you have
some decent tires with some tread on them.
817
00:43:10,510 --> 00:43:13,750
You know, your brake pads and your
fluids all fresh and go out there
818
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:18,520
and you're not trying to be type of
man and all, and all the, the great
819
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,840
women that are out there right now.
820
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,160
You can be that person.
821
00:43:21,635 --> 00:43:25,595
Also just in your regular car, just
get out there and learn the basics
822
00:43:25,595 --> 00:43:29,015
and then, you know, if you find
it's for you, you can step up to
823
00:43:29,075 --> 00:43:31,235
the cup car or you know, whatever.
824
00:43:31,265 --> 00:43:32,375
See where life takes you.
825
00:43:32,465 --> 00:43:36,365
Well, Tanya, you're gonna have to come
and visit because I've been trying
826
00:43:36,365 --> 00:43:41,375
to get New Jersey Motorsport Park to
have a Wednesday night open trap and
827
00:43:41,375 --> 00:43:44,165
have that exact same thing happen.
828
00:43:44,555 --> 00:43:45,004
Of course.
829
00:43:45,004 --> 00:43:50,044
I think the biggest obstacle there is
good old insurance concerns about somebody
830
00:43:50,044 --> 00:43:51,605
getting hurt, et cetera, et cetera.
831
00:43:51,694 --> 00:43:56,975
To me, my dream would be instead of going
golfing, you go on a weekend and you have
832
00:43:56,975 --> 00:43:59,765
open track for a half a day or a full day.
833
00:43:59,825 --> 00:44:01,475
It doesn't have to be
for the whole weekend.
834
00:44:01,475 --> 00:44:03,935
I mean, sometimes it's
exhausting in the summer.
835
00:44:03,964 --> 00:44:04,174
Yeah.
836
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:05,299
It's it just go and have.
837
00:44:06,085 --> 00:44:10,585
Talk to me in a year or a year and a half
and we'll be talking about that happening.
838
00:44:10,585 --> 00:44:11,005
Awesome.
839
00:44:11,185 --> 00:44:13,945
Some group out there was
doing a women's track day.
840
00:44:13,975 --> 00:44:17,785
PCA down here has been advertising
like so far all year that in October
841
00:44:17,785 --> 00:44:20,335
there's a women's only like HPD event.
842
00:44:20,455 --> 00:44:20,995
I think it's like.
843
00:44:21,045 --> 00:44:25,515
Mid late October, which I don't wanna
discourage them from doing those
844
00:44:25,515 --> 00:44:30,105
things, but that to me kind of goes
in the category of W race series.
845
00:44:30,135 --> 00:44:31,095
Right, exactly.
846
00:44:31,095 --> 00:44:35,655
Um, I want there to be blended so that
women don't get treated any differently.
847
00:44:35,895 --> 00:44:37,185
Like in their regard.
848
00:44:37,185 --> 00:44:41,925
I could see it maybe as being attractive
to at least pull them in at first.
849
00:44:41,925 --> 00:44:44,055
Maybe some women that are intimidated.
850
00:44:44,055 --> 00:44:44,535
So.
851
00:44:44,695 --> 00:44:44,995
Agreed.
852
00:44:45,135 --> 00:44:45,555
Agreed.
853
00:44:45,745 --> 00:44:49,795
Hopefully it could it be positive in that
respect and then they start realizing and
854
00:44:49,795 --> 00:44:51,475
then coming out to the blended events.
855
00:44:51,565 --> 00:44:52,765
I completely agree.
856
00:44:52,975 --> 00:44:57,535
And so if a young lady walks up to
you today, let's say, you know, round
857
00:44:57,535 --> 00:45:02,515
about 10 years old and asks you the
question, Maureen, why do you race?
858
00:45:02,810 --> 00:45:03,560
What would you tell her?
859
00:45:03,740 --> 00:45:07,400
Because it's the slowest
that I go in my life.
860
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,780
I'm multitasking at all times
doing various projects, being a
861
00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:16,280
mom, being a employee, being a
mechanic, being all kinds of things.
862
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:18,530
When I'm racing, I'm going so fast.
863
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:24,910
That I cannot be managing thinking of
I have to pick up the dry cleaning or
864
00:45:24,910 --> 00:45:29,290
I have to cook something, which by the
way, I don't cook the going fast in a
865
00:45:29,290 --> 00:45:34,900
safe environment and the fact that you,
whoever that person is, you can do it too.
866
00:45:34,990 --> 00:45:39,040
Maureen, as we wrap up here, are there
any shoutouts promotions, upcoming events,
867
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,420
or anything else you'd like to share?
868
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:44,530
My goal is to make sure everybody
know, even if I'm repeating myself.
869
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,470
Everybody knows these
fabulous things are going on.
870
00:45:47,470 --> 00:45:53,710
First off, I think you might have noticed
that NASCAR was going to give $10 million
871
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:59,650
through Bud Light as a sponsor for Women
in Motorsport and Chip Nessi and PNC Bank
872
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,180
just announced on International Women's
Day, a Women in Motorsport campaign.
873
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:07,180
They didn't give a dollar amount with
it, but I'm sure it's significant.
874
00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:11,899
And I've had the pleasure of meeting
Chip GSI and Roger Penske and Roger
875
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:17,089
helped Beth Perreta out and Simone
Destro as her driver at Indy 500.
876
00:46:17,180 --> 00:46:20,419
She, again, is stealing some
of what I would like to do
877
00:46:20,419 --> 00:46:22,339
with the women race car team.
878
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:23,875
But remember, I want them to be.
879
00:46:24,490 --> 00:46:26,200
Known as women after they win?
880
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:26,590
Yes.
881
00:46:27,010 --> 00:46:28,510
No need to beforehand.
882
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,690
Maureen, you actually bring up a really
good point and because I want to talk
883
00:46:31,690 --> 00:46:34,540
about something that happened a while
ago, you know, international Women's Day.
884
00:46:34,930 --> 00:46:38,440
We do a lot of social media posting and
things like that, and I sat on it all
885
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,930
day and sometimes there's events like
that where I'm like, you know what?
886
00:46:40,930 --> 00:46:41,920
We're not gonna say anything.
887
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,790
We're just gonna let it go.
888
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:43,690
Moment of silence.
889
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:46,960
But it took me all day because I
just had these thoughts ruminating
890
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,880
in my mind and I didn't know.
891
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,250
Exactly what I wanted to say, and then
it sort of hit me later in the day.
892
00:46:52,730 --> 00:46:55,850
I remember as a kid, and I've said
this many times on this show, I
893
00:46:55,850 --> 00:46:57,950
always wanted to be a rally driver.
894
00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:59,750
I grew up in the group B era.
895
00:46:59,750 --> 00:47:02,660
It was one of those things
that has stuck with me.
896
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:05,030
It's what got me hooked on motorsports.
897
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:07,820
Even though I know rally's not
a big deal in the United States.
898
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:09,800
It's, you know, very huge everywhere else.
899
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,160
But here.
900
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,850
And at that time as a kid, you know
you're looking up to your idols, you know?
901
00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:15,030
Yeah.
902
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:20,040
You had names like Volta Royal and
Ola Ari Vain and people like that.
903
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,690
But then there was Michelle Ton.
904
00:47:21,870 --> 00:47:26,370
When I posted on International Women's
Day, I made it a point to be very
905
00:47:26,370 --> 00:47:30,450
direct about what I wanted to say
and to highlight her because you see
906
00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:33,720
all this other stuff and I'm like
looking back at the eighties and
907
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:36,450
the late seventies, 'cause she ran
for Renault and other teams as well.
908
00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:38,040
She was a pioneer.
909
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:40,330
In motor sports as a
female being out there.
910
00:47:40,330 --> 00:47:42,670
I mean, the other names that we
listed, you know, there were a few
911
00:47:42,670 --> 00:47:47,590
that came before many that came after,
but I looked at her going of all the
912
00:47:47,590 --> 00:47:51,040
motor sport that there is rally's
one of the most difficult, requires
913
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,660
some of the most just risk taking,
but also finesse at the same time.
914
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:56,890
And it is a ballet.
915
00:47:57,130 --> 00:48:00,670
And so I've always looked up to her
as one of my motor sports heroes.
916
00:48:00,670 --> 00:48:02,020
And if you ask me to line up.
917
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,140
Three, five people that I wanna
shake their hand and meet them.
918
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:08,170
Sabine Schmidt would've been one of
them, and Michelle Zu right next to her.
919
00:48:08,170 --> 00:48:08,440
Right?
920
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,270
So I wish there were more people like
that, that want to be like her and
921
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:15,640
do that and be rally drivers too.
922
00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:20,560
Uh, so I just wanted to bring that up
because that hits close to home for me.
923
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,509
I know it hits close
to home for my family.
924
00:48:22,750 --> 00:48:26,440
And those are the kinds of stories
I'm trying to pass down like yours
925
00:48:26,620 --> 00:48:29,740
to my daughters as they look to
the future and, and go into driving
926
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:30,850
and hopefully into motor sport.
927
00:48:31,495 --> 00:48:34,495
Or if not, if they want to
take a ballet, that's fine too.
928
00:48:34,555 --> 00:48:36,895
But what we're doing is combining the two.
929
00:48:37,285 --> 00:48:37,915
Absolutely.
930
00:48:38,005 --> 00:48:43,134
Uh, the whole idea of dancing with
a car is at a technical track like
931
00:48:43,165 --> 00:48:47,605
Shenandoah, which is a small track
near summit on the same grounds.
932
00:48:47,634 --> 00:48:50,455
That's where one of my
favorite instructors taught
933
00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:51,985
me how to dance with the car.
934
00:48:52,045 --> 00:48:53,995
That's exactly what he said.
935
00:48:53,995 --> 00:48:58,855
And how to apply the brakes to
get more steering input, all kinds
936
00:48:58,855 --> 00:49:00,415
of technical stuff that I won't.
937
00:49:00,465 --> 00:49:05,955
Bore you with, I would invite
everybody to visit MORacing.net.
938
00:49:06,225 --> 00:49:07,635
Leave your comments there.
939
00:49:07,665 --> 00:49:10,995
Email me, contact me, love
to hear your feedback.
940
00:49:11,205 --> 00:49:16,035
Other than MORacing.net, I want
to shout out to Vet Motorsports.
941
00:49:16,335 --> 00:49:21,450
I think you've had Pete on the
show, Mary Hague of Moon Mark we
942
00:49:21,455 --> 00:49:24,705
had mentioned earlier, and again,
that's Lori Johnson of Lady.
943
00:49:24,705 --> 00:49:25,395
Start Your Engines.
944
00:49:25,965 --> 00:49:27,795
Little plug there, commercial for her.
945
00:49:27,884 --> 00:49:30,615
Shout out to all the
male allies out there.
946
00:49:30,675 --> 00:49:32,985
Again, without them I
wouldn't be able to do it.
947
00:49:33,015 --> 00:49:37,785
And the Red Cross for any of
those drivers out there, I am
948
00:49:37,785 --> 00:49:40,005
a transportation specialist.
949
00:49:40,185 --> 00:49:44,895
We pick up the blood and plasma and
take it from the central lab out to
950
00:49:44,895 --> 00:49:47,115
hospitals, and some of it is stats.
951
00:49:47,445 --> 00:49:51,915
In other words, you can't be caught
speeding, but you can certainly utilize
952
00:49:51,915 --> 00:49:53,955
the fact that you have a Red Cross van.
953
00:49:53,955 --> 00:49:59,505
So I pull it right into the front of the
hospital, put my flashers on, and I'm able
954
00:49:59,505 --> 00:50:02,475
to take in the cases of blood platelets.
955
00:50:02,535 --> 00:50:07,755
So shout out to Red Cross and any
other car enthusiasts that's out there.
956
00:50:08,115 --> 00:50:12,255
So stay tuned and if you have any
suggestions, I'm open to them.
957
00:50:12,315 --> 00:50:15,135
Watch out for what we're
doing because hopefully in a
958
00:50:15,135 --> 00:50:17,235
year or so it'll be standard.
959
00:50:17,355 --> 00:50:19,995
Get it standard manual.
960
00:50:20,715 --> 00:50:21,765
Save the manual.
961
00:50:22,335 --> 00:50:22,605
Yeah.
962
00:50:22,845 --> 00:50:25,755
So we thank Maureen for sharing
her journey and the great work she
963
00:50:25,755 --> 00:50:29,445
is doing with MORacing to empower
women in all facets of motor sports.
964
00:50:29,845 --> 00:50:33,234
MORacing provides the concierge
service partnering with established
965
00:50:33,234 --> 00:50:37,615
high performance driving programs, and
they would love to get you on the track.
966
00:50:37,884 --> 00:50:41,424
So if you are interested or want to
learn more, be sure to check out their
967
00:50:41,424 --> 00:50:50,395
website at www.mmoang.net or follow
Maureen on Twitter at mc vail Maureen,
968
00:50:50,515 --> 00:50:52,855
or on Instagram at Maureen McVail.
969
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:56,550
Maureen, we cannot thank you
enough for coming on Break Fix.
970
00:50:56,550 --> 00:51:00,570
This has been an awesome chat that
we've had tonight and we look forward
971
00:51:00,570 --> 00:51:04,650
to the MORacing success and getting
more women in the paddock and behind
972
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:07,740
the wheel out there coaching all
the things that we talked about.
973
00:51:07,740 --> 00:51:10,290
So again, we can't thank you enough
for the work that you're doing,
974
00:51:10,380 --> 00:51:14,730
and we wish you the best of success
here in the 22 and Beyond Seasons.
975
00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:15,650
And thank you.
976
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:17,630
It's been a pleasure speaking with you.
977
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,580
Thanks so much for the invitation.
978
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:20,570
Thank you, Maureen.
979
00:51:25,250 --> 00:51:28,430
If you like what you've heard and want
to learn more about gtm, be sure to
980
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:31,970
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981
00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:35,300
You can also find us on
Instagram at Tour Motorsports.
982
00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:39,260
Also, if you want to get involved or
have suggestions for future shows.
983
00:51:39,630 --> 00:51:45,780
You can call or text us at (202)
630-1770 or send us an email at
984
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:47,790
crew chief@gtmotorsports.org.
985
00:51:48,030 --> 00:51:48,665
We'd love to hear from you.
986
00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:51,960
Hey everybody, crew Chief Eric here.
987
00:51:52,380 --> 00:51:55,800
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988
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:01,259
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989
00:52:01,259 --> 00:52:05,640
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