Perspective Is Everything

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Welcome to break Free and Trust a redesign for living.
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Join me, Chris and.
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Me Jacqueline for real conversations about life, death, and everything
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in between.
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life too seriously.
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to befriend your shadow, and to trust that any obstacle
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that gets in your way is there to help you grow.
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Together. Working at a practical levels, you learn to trust
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that everything that is happening is for you, your growth and
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ultimate freedom.
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Our circumstances don't matter, it's only how we relate to
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them that does.
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Get ready to be your friend the wisdom of your
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body and the power.
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Of your mind. Break Free and Trust starts now.
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And Welcome to break Free and Trust. Are redesigned for Living.
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I'm Chris, my name Jacqueline.
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One of the first teachings that Jacqueline ever shared with
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me was that the most important decision you will ever
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make is your answer to a single question. Is the
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universe benevolent? Because whoever you answer it. That answer becomes
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the lens which you see your whole life through. Jacque
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and I have come to believe almost nothing shapes a
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person's perspective more than this one choice. Answered that it's
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hostile and every hardship is proof that you're under attack.
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Answer that it's benevolent, and that very same heartship becomes
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something happening for you and not to you, an invitation
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rather than a punishment. Same life, completely different world. In
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this episode we're going to explore. We're going to explore
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and look at more deeply this idea. What do we
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actually mean by a benevolent universe? And is believing it
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just wishful thinking? If it's a benevolent universe, then what
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do we do with suffering, cruelty and loss? And how
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to soul contracts? Quantum physics and the frequency of conscience
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is fit into any in all of this, all this
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in more the next hour and it's a live show,
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so for live years, please put your questions in the
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chat or call in at nine three zero to eight
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one nine and we'll take some questions in the second half.
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All right, you know what, let's get roll in with
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where I started. So Jack was teaching you shared with me,
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and when it's one of the first things I remember
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you ever saying in one of the classes I took
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of years of this idea about the benevolent universe and
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the most important question you have to ask. Can you
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take picks back to that and what you meant by
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it or what you mean by it? Well?
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I can, But I'm curious about something because I don't
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remember the day that I said it, and that it
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landed so deeply for you. I'm wondering what hit you
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so hard in that statement when I spoke it.
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Yeah, I think for me, it's just as it wasn't
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the very first time I met you, when I was
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sort of going through my stuff. It was months later,
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when i'd already started this, you know, spiritual emergence, if
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you will, and I and i'd started studying some spiritual
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teachings and whatnot. But I just think as the way
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it was phrased, I never thought about what that meant.
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I never, I guess, had never placed a direction or
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objective on the universe. I sort of thought as being
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something that was relatively inert. But when you asked that question,
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it really landed with me that actually I was feeling
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into that there is something a lot more to this,
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that there is something driving in the direction, and it
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made me really deeply think about it and what that
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actually meant for my life. It really hit me.
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Yeah, I wish I remember. It's not my statement, so
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I wish I remember where it all heard it from originally.
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But I guess there's new idea. There's no new ideas
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out there anyways, just recycled ones or shifts some perspective.
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I think, well, I can tell you what it means
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to me now. I don't know exactly what it meant
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to me when I spoke it then, because I don't remember.
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At the end of the day, we can either see
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the world, the universe, and everything in it, so our
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interactions are the events that happen in our lives. We
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can either and you and I have said this so
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many times on this podcast, that's happening to us or
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happening for us, And if we experience life from the
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perspective that it's happening for us, which is where I
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say benevolent or where I would use the word benevolent,
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then everything that happens in our lives is designed to
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help us actualize, help us come back into alignment with
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who we are, help us come home to remember who
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we are. If, however, we hold the perspective that the
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universe is out to get us, or that the events
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that happen in our lives we are victims to the
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world looks like a pretty hard place, and it doesn't
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give us a whole lot of agency, and it doesn't
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give us a whole lot of power. And I'm not
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talking about the kind of power over I'm talking about
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inherent power, the kind of power that has us connect
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to something bigger than we are, not just our own
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little selves walking through the world. And so I guess
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it's it's a really long way of saying. What I
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mean by benevolent is is the universe. It's funny, I
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feel like I've lost my words today. Just give me
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half a second. At the end of the day, our
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perspective on life is all we've got. And if our
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perspective is that every experience that we have is designed
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to help us grow into the person that we are
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meant to become, then this whole wild ride becomes an adventure. If, however,
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we think that what's being presented to us, whether it's
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an accident, it's an illness, it's you know, losing something.
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It's a job that gets a job, that we acquire,
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our job that we lose, events that are happening with
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our kids that we really don't have a lot of
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control over. If we assume that there's no relevance to that,
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or that the universe is out to get us and
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poor me or woe is me, then our lives become
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very painful, and actually our lives become one huge reaction.
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I hope that answers your question.
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It does, and it's interesting, you know what showed up
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for me there there's a little bit of like, at
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least how we're opening with it's it's a bit of
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a Pascal's wager, and what that is is this, okay,
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So it's like it's this famous thing when it came
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to the existence of God. And Pascal is a famous
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French mathematician the seventeenth century and philosopher who just said, listen,
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put it this way. If you believe in it, if
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you if you believe in an infinite God and infant
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God exists, then there's lots of upside. If you believe
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in infant God, it doesn't exist, there's probably no downside.
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But if you don't believe in an infinite god and
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it does exist, that's going to be problematic. So you're
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just you're just way better off when you look at
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the probably of outcome to just just be a believer,
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because there's really no downside in it. There's lots of
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downside in not believing, in not living your life that way.
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And what I'm hearing with in this is there's a
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there's a positioning and a framing and perspective of life
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that you're just going to be better off regardless if
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you position yourself for a benevolent universe, whether it's true
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or not.
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I think that's absolutely true. Yeah, I think that's absolutely true,
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and I know it. I mean I know it to
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be true in my every day Yeah, what does it
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mean to you to live in a benevolent universe?
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And it's interesting because I think when I when I
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first went down this road, it was very much how
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I described in this Pascal Wager. It's like, I think
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I'm better off just believing that, and I'm better off.
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I'm better off framing things that are happening for me
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that everything is an opportunity. Everything has a reason in it.
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And if I can just if I can just position
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that way, I'm going to have more inner peace and
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happiness and I'll learn more lessons. And that's unequippally true.
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I believe that's a better way to live life. But
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it means much more to me than that.
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Now.
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It's like my lived experience here now is I'll unequivally say,
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I know the universe has been evolent. My own personal
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experience tells you unequivalently, I know I live in a
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benevolent universe, and the creative intelligence that runs through this
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universe is benevolent, and and it's in my view it's
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the frequency of love. That's what I experience on a
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daily basis now, far beyond the intellectual exercise that I
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went through originally. And I don't know if I needed
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you to the first to get to the second, but
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that's how I experience it.
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Well, I have two questions from that state, and well,
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actually a comment first, which is you know, when you
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just described the first beginning, like the beginning of that piece,
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what I would say is it actually sounds a little
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bit fluffy. It sounds a little bit in some ways
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it could even sound like bypassing, right, Like everything that
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happens is for me, everything is an opportunity to grow.
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It's all wonderful, and it's not. It's not all wonderful,
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and it doesn't always feel like an opportunity to grow.
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A lot of this feels really painful. And I say
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that because when we're talking, we're not talking about very
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fairy shit here, guys. We're talking about like really getting
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into the trenches and being in the present moment with
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what life gives us or gifts us. And we'll get
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into that a little bit more after. But the second
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piece that you spoke to, which I find really interesting,
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is it's not very often that you use the words
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I know. You really approach life with a tremendous amount
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of curiosity, and you often speak to not knowing and
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to holding the position of not knowing. What about this
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is so different for you? How do you know?
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I want to feel like I want to address the
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first thing you said first, which is, and you're totally
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right that the starting point is the floppiness. It is
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spiritual bypassing. But I've come to wonder if that's part
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of the step in this is it's stake it till
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you make it, but you've got to believe it. And
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that was the starting point. So yeah, one hundred percent,
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spirits will bypassing until it's not, which gets me to
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the second question.
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But before you go there, fake it till you make it,
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but you've got to believe it. I don't think you
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actually get the place of believing it until you've faked
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it for a while, right, Yeah, it takes time to
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get to the place where you can truly believe it.
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And I think that that's what you're speaking to, this
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place of knowing. You know it then, because why how
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do you know it?
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So that's the that's the inner voice, the inner dweller
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that I connect to. Now. It's like we talked to
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our last podcast on intuition, and it's that place inside
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when I want to turn all the the outside noise
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off and come inside and then connect with you know
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what I'll call God consciousness or christ consciousness or love consciousness.
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That's what I experience. That's the that's the knowing that
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shows up. That's the that's the voice or the or
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the positionality that I connect with. And it's always the same.
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So I'm going to dumb this down a little bit.
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Can you give our listeners examples of how you know
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this to be true? How do you know through your
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own life experience, or through the experience of your clients
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or the men that you work with, that we live
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in a benevolent universe.
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I've never seen a situation for happening arise that didn't
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that didn't lead to a place of Ultimately, the answer
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was love that ultimately the answer wasn't to move to
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position yourself to a place of love, which is the
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which is the flow and the frequency of the universe.
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I'm struggling here because it's very it's an ineffable concept
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to explain.
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Can I try?
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Yeah, please try.
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We'll see if you come back to it, because you
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keep bringing us back to this ineffable piece and I
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actually want to make this just really raw and real.
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Yeah we'll get there. Yeah, Okay.
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So, in the work that I do in my life
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as a mom, in my life as a friend, as
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a wife, as a daughter, and as a sister, more
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and more I am aware that there are two ways
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to respond to what's happening. One is to jump into drama.
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And for me and my experience, what drama looks like
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is resistance to what's happening. Stories about why what's happening
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isn't okay, stories about why what some he's doing isn't okay.
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Story is about how where our kids are at, where
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our work is at, where life is at, where that's
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not okay. And the more I watch both myself and
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the people in my world, the more I recognize that
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that is a recipe for insanity, because what is in
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this moment, what is showing up in our lives, is
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showing up in our lives, and if we meet it
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with resistance, the only thing that we have is struggle
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and suffering. If we meet it with curiosity around what
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do I have to learn here? What is this experience
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trying to teach me, not about another person, but about myself?
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What is it that's triggering me? What is it that
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I reacting to? And I can actually meet it with
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curiosity because I believe the idea that the universe is benevolent,
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which means to me that every experience that happens in
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my life, as we say in our opener, is an
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opportunity to grow. If I take it, drama starts to disappear.
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Freedom starts to show up. And I'll use a specific
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example of what I've been working on lately in relation
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to our kids, Like we have two kids in our house,
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one that's going to university, one that's going to begin
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university in the fall, and one that's in high school.
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And each one of them are showing up with their
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own stuff. The more I am able to watch my
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interactions with them and see their struggle or their their suffering, frustration, upset, sadness, fear,
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and I'm able to ask the question of myself, what's
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in this for me? And it's an interesting comment because
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that actually makes this sound like the whole world is
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about me, and I'm selfish and and I guess in
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some ways what I'm saying is it's.
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That's exactly the way, well you're saying your whole universe
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actually is inside you, which is which is true.
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Thank you, It's true.
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What I'm saying is is each one of each each
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one of these kids is going to live their lives.
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Each one of them has their own lessons to learn, yes,
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but in my interactions with each one of them, I
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have something to learn too. And if rather than looking
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at the kids just as an example, and saying, Oh,
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I can't believe we have to deal with this again,
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or why isn't this one you know, why hasn't this
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one figured this out yet? Or why is this one struggling?
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And I can actually stop and go what is it
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about this struggle or what is it about this impasse
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that's impacting me? Where am I getting triggered? And how
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is this experience delivered to me for me to grow?
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All of a sudden, I've entered this giant field of possibility,
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and from that standpoint, I can hold a growth mindset.
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From that standpoint, I can look at each of these
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experiences and rather than looking at them as something that's
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happening to me, I can see them as something that's
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happening for me. And when I can get to a
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place where I can really own that, where I'm not
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trying to control the kids' lives in any way, where
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I'm actually just working at managing my own responses to
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what's happening, a level of peace comes over me, which
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then gives me capacity to be able to meet each
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person in my life with curiosity and create a space
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that allows them to see themselves in a different way.
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But when I'm in reaction, and the reaction comes from
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why me, Why is this happening? This isn't the way
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it's supposed to be. Life shouldn't be showing up this way.
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Everything gets really chaotic and messy.
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Yeah, seriously, justting in this experience you're sharing. It's at
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all these things that happen using your children or children
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as an example, all these things that are happening that
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seem like struggle or suffering or pain or at the time,
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it's it's benevolence because it's it's actually there for the
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benefit of both you and the kids. It just it's
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just a matter of seeing it that way.
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Yes, but I can't control whether or not the people
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in my world see it that way. The only thing
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I can actually manage is whether or not I choose
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to see it that way.
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And you know that it makes total sense, and it's
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it's helped me get clarity on the question you asked me.
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And you know it's funny when you asked it, I went,
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I went, I went to think about specific client examples.
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But that's their experience. As you said, you have your experience.
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I only have mine, and so I'll certainly answer from
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my perspective, and again it started for me. It was like,
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I'm very much someone who I don't know if I
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thought the world was hostile, but I certainly thought the
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world needed to be controlled. At the very minimal I
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thought it was, you know, it was neutral, and that
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things would only happen that were good in my life
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if I made it happen. Until I got to a
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place where my actions of trying to control things didn't
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work for a well anymore, and I had to get
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out of my own way and fully surrender. And my
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first instance of surrender it was to alcoholism and addiction.
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Nothing i'd do my own power could solve that anymore.
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So I surrendered to the universe to like, if I
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just get out of my own way, what will happen?
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And sure enough, as soon as I did that, everything
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started to change in that front rapidly and miraculously. And
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in that place I really started to feel into this
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idea of surrender to the universe, of being benevolent or
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just surrendering to the universe in general. I hadn't really
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thought about whether it was benevolent or not, but I
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certainly knew what I was doing was going pushing me
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in the wrong direction. So I went to this place.
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If I've surrendered here when it comes to this alcoholism,
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what if I surrender in this place where it comes
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to relationship. Interestingly enough, things started to get materially better.
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What if I surrender in terms of career conflict, going
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through a divorce, proceeding, going through legal troubles. What if
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I keep surrendering and move to a place of powerlessness
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in each one of these categories. And sure enough, one
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by one, with one hundred percent success rate, my life
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started getting better in ways that I can't explain. It
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was miraculous. And what I realized that I was doing
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is by moving to this place of powerlessness, not pushing
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the river, but going with the flow of the river.
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It kept taking me to a place of peace, happiness,
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and enjoy that I didn't know as possible. And that's
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my experience. Is like, wait, if I just jumped into
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this river of what I call the universe and stop
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fighting it, it's been uplent. It's trying to take me
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to the place i'm I'm yearning for, and all I
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need to do is stop fighting it. Everywhere I stopped
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fighting anyone or anything because my problems. I realize we're
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all of my own making the universe beautiful.
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Okay, it's interesting, you know, you and I talk about
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this all the time, and it's so much a part
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of our makeup now. But it's funny to watch us
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struggle having a conversation about it, because it seems like
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the thing that would actually flow off of our times
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most easily. I'm not sure what that's about, but I
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think it does speak a little bit to this idea
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of how ineffable this concept really is, and until you
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experience it, it's really hard to know it.
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Yeah, there's a saying with ineffable concepts, whether it's this one,
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or it's God or something else, is that someone's experience.
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You can say two words and they nod with agreement,
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And there's no number of words that can explain to
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someone who may not have experienced. And so it's somewhere
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in the middle with us and our audience about you know,
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how do we get this concept across for various different
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levels of experience.
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Can you think of a specific example where we can
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highlight what we mean by this, even one that's recent
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for us?
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Mm hm, in our like, do you mean the benevolence
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of the universe, like specifically or a specific example where
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stop fighting it.
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Well, it's all the same, right if we believe that
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we live in a benevolent universe. If you truly adopt
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that belief system and it becomes the lens through it
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you see the world, then each experience that you have
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is an opportunity for you to surrender, and through that surrender,
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each opportunity is an opportunity for you to step into flow.
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So in any way that you want to describe it,
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I mean I can think of a billion.
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But no, go for go for one.
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Okay, So I'm going to leave names and things out
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of it because I don't think that that's important. But
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I had a week, a couple of weeks ago, I
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I had an opportunity to be able to I've had
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a conversation with one of our kids repeatedly where a
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pattern showed up. And that pattern was very much a
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lens of experiencing the world not as benevolent, but actually
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experiencing the world through his eyes as was out to
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get him, never being met fully with what he needed,
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never having his needs met, and as I was sort
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of sitting with that, I watched myself wanting to meet
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all of his needs, to make him feel super loved,
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to fill a hole that wasn't mine to fill. And
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I recognized that, and so I sort of stepped back.
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And as I was in this place of witnessing it,
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I had an opportunity to go for a walk with
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somebody very dear to me who's also family in the
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generation that came before me, and I heard the same
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kind of conversation going on. There was similar there was
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a similar story that was being told, and it struck
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me in really loud way. And then I came home
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and I recognized that that same story exists in my
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generation with my siblings. And I sort of sat quietly
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gobsmacked in recognizing that depending on the lens through which
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we see the world, our world looks entirely different. We
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could have three people growing up in the same household,
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three kids growing up in the same house, and their
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lens would completely define what they experienced. And I watched
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as I got to see this movie play itself out
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in three generations of family before my eyes. And as
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I watched that, what I recognized was that the learning
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in it, there's learning in it for each of them.
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I'm sure that's not my business. The learning in it
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for me was so profound because what I got from
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it was I have absolutely no control over the lens
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through which somebody sees the world. There's nothing I can
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do about that. The only thing that I can do
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is choose the lens through which I see the world.
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And as soon as I got that lesson, something shifted
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for me in my own nervous system that created a
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level of calmness and peace and quiet that I'm not
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sure that I've ever experienced in my lifetime. And it
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shifted the way that I was able to interact with
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each of those characters in my world, to be able
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to meet them in a place of complete calm, so
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that perhaps their story the lens through which they see
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the world could potentially also shift. I don't know if
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I describe that very well. I'm really struggling with my
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words today.
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Well, it's hard. And then you describe again, as soon
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as you realize you're in conflict with what is and
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put your and switch and switch your perspective and put
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yourself to a place where now you're going with the
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flow of it all, everything starts to change the way
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you see it the way you interact all that thing,
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and that's the that's it's almost as like it it's not.
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Can't specifically prove the universe is benevolent. All you can
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say is when I orient myself that way, or you
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orient yourself that way, it works out. Yeah, that's the
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closest we can come to touching it. I can just
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describe what happens when I treat it as it's benevolent.
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I can't prove it's benevolent, but every time I take
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the action and align myself that way, my life gets
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maturely better.
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To summarize that really beautifully. So thanks for finding words
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for me, And with that, I think we'll take a
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break and we'll come back.
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That's good.
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Collect ourselves here.
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Visit the Way he Dash Healing dot com. From our information,
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for all of that.
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And really thank you for blazing the trail for women
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in talk radio and just being such an inspiration to
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me and so many other people. What you're doing is
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so awesome. And you know, without people like you there
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to like really step out of the box and go
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for it, I don't know if someone like me would
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have ever read it up here, but I'm so happy
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to be here, and yeah, I just want to thank
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you for everything you're doing.
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You're one of my major inspirations.
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What if you're training isn't enough.
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The Multicultural Mindset podcast invites counselors and therapists to unlearn
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the one size fits all approach. This isn't cultural competence.
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It's a way of being that brings racialized experiences from
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the margins to the very center of care. Let's stop
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pathologizing black pain and start challenging the system that created
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the bar.
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Living alone.
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Cut the ship, stop.
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Strong, and we're back, Jack, And I was just laughing
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over the break about how it's like it's challenging to
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to articulate some of these this type of concept which
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we freely talk about in our own but there's lots
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of shortcuts in it. But we're gonna We're gonna soldier
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on for the second half. Here, I'm gonna I'm gonna
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shift the direction a little bit. Maybe maybe this will
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be simpler. I want to name the obvious objection about
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what we're saying in a benevolent universe. If you look
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at the news, real suffering, how does anyone hold the
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medival universe the straight face in the face of that.
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I mean, that's that's going to be the pushback, and
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that's the pushback I get all the time.
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We'll see if I can find my words in the
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second half of this show. I think the way that
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I would respond to that, and I totally understand the objection, actually,
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but I would say that what's happening in the world
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from my perspective, is a really incredible reflection of what's
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happening within our minds and the warring that's going on
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inside of all of us, the need to be right,
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the need to be on top, the ego structures that
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we work with that are, you know, helping us, helping
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us stay in survival, not helping us to thrive, but
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helping us to survive. That's what's being reflected to us
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in the world outside. And I would suggest that the
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insanity of the world itself is actually an incredible way
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to pause. It's asking us to pause and ask ourselves
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who we want to be and who we choose to
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be in any moment, in every interaction, because we're seeing
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a stage play itself out with actors who are only
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in resistance to what is, who are all working from
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the perspective of their egos, and as we watch it,
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what we see is absolute destruction. And so I would
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say the world is a perfect example, or it's a
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perfect opportunity to draw us back to center, to ask
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the question who do I choose to be in every
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interaction that I have? And I would say it's actually
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like you know, we've talked before about the soul whispers
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and then it gets louder, and it gets louder. This
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is as loud as it gets. Right, We're living in
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a world that is fraught with disease. Mental health is
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at all time lows. We're looking at an epidemic of loneliness.
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All of what's going on in the world for us
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is simply, from my perspective, an opportunity to call us out.
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If I focus again out there and what's happening, I'm
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going to get lost in the news. I'm going to
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get lost in this idea of this one's right and
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this one's wrong, this group is right, this group is wrong.
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But if I watch the news and I recognize how
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it makes me feel, and I come back to what's
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happening for me in it, where I'm getting triggered in it,
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then I actually get to work with that, and I
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shift my consciousness, and then shifting my consciousness, I then
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create room for others to do the same.
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Yeah, it's interesting. I was really listening that The word
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ego really shut up for me. But even before I
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jump into that, it's almost like I had this thought.
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It's like, you know, given the news and all that's
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going on and all these negative things we see, it
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almost reaffirms my view that the universe is benevolent because
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despite that, despite that our humanity and everything, creation still
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pushes forward. It pushes forward in the face of all that,
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all these forces that seem to be almost in intent
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on destroying it. Yet it can't. All these all these
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things that happened, our creation still moves forward in in
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a beautiful way, object actively. But I think that idea
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of the universe is benevolent and where souls that are
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connected to the universe for all one consciousness is the
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way I see it. The ego is not benevolent. That's
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something that's clear because our ego we talk about, it's
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a survival strategy. It's a survival mechanism, and it's predicated
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on control, it's credit on power. But more importantly, the
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ego uses ignorance as a survival strategy. It wants to
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be ignorant. It wants to think it knows everything, it
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wants to shut out things that doesn't know, and that
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ignorance is a source of majority of evil in our
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world right now. And the more ego there is, the
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more there's people pushing against the river. And fortunately or unfortunately,
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the people that have taken power or are given the
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keys to power in our universe are those of the
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biggest egos, and they're those with the greatest amount of
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ignorance and lack of understanding of how the universe actually works.
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So you have this benevolent current with a whole bunch
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of whole bunch of ignorance pushing against it and making
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it look like it's not allowing it to flow the
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way it wants to, but it continues to flow, and
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of course our own egos get in the way as well,
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mine included. Where we're watching the news, we're watching these events,
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and again objectively, it's half a percent of what's actually
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going on, and we're pulling it up and staring at it, saying,
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oh my god, look at all the awful things are happening.
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I look around this room right now, there's nothing awful
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happening here. Everything's wonderful. Right now. I look outside, Everything's wonderful.
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This is some psychological fear that I'm making a story
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of pain about that's happening around the other side of
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the world. I'm not just saying it's real or not real.
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I don't actually know. But my lived experience every day,
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if I'm really objectively truthful about it, is a miracle.
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It's not bad, it's not suffering, it's benevolent, it's kind.
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So it's interesting hearing something really curious, which is that
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in listening to the news, in paying attention to social media,
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in watching the violence that happens when sides are chosen,
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when there is a right and there is a wrong,
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and there is a good and there's a bad, what
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it actually does is totally draw us out of ourselves
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and it brings us. It brings us to a place
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where we no longer have access to our intuition, we
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no longer have access to our inherent power. We get
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caught up in the chaos of the dramas, and the
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dramas as I see them, are actually intended to bring
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us back inside, but instead we are being pulled out side.
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And you said something on the break, which is it's
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funny for me that it was you that said it
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and not me, because it's so much of my world
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growing up. Is you spoke to nature, right, and you
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spoke to this idea that if you look outside, or
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you go into the forest, or you go to the ocean,
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or you go wherever, nature is still finding a way
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to move through its cycles, to grow, to prosper, to die,
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to be reborn, and it's consistent, it's consistently showing us
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how to operate in this world. You go and you
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sit with a tree for ten minutes. The tree is
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not buying into the drama that's happening in the world.
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The tree is present to the water that is feeding it,
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to the sunshine that's helping it to grow, and it's
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not getting caught up in everybody's dramas. That's walking through
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the forest.
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It's just being I would even say it, Yeah, I
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wouldn't say it's more than that. If you like, if
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you go into like, it organizes itself along the lines
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of what I would call benevolence. If you look at
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take a close look next time me go into the forest.
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Look at the trees that have grown on slight angles
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or slightly crooked to maximize the manici caanopy. And they
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can only do that because the other trees have already
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communicated to them where they need to grow to get
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the sunlight. Watch how the forest floor conspires to create
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the right amount of networks to connect all the trees
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and all the fauna in there. Notice how animals create
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the proper amount of territories that they can all coexist
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and maximize their survival. This is the evidence of benevolent universe.
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What gets in the way is the human ego again,
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and it's not benevolent. It's a survival mechanism that relies
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in ignorance, which is evil. And that's and that's this
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piece that becomes our lived reality, pushing us away from
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all we have to do is let go of it,
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move to this place of minimizing our ego, not get
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caught up in the drama, and go with the flow
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of it all, just like the rest of nature does.
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And we get pulled so far away from that.
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So, if you come back to your question around how
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can you say that we live in a benevolent universe
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when you look at all the cruelty going on in
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the world, The answer that you actually just spoke really
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beautifully is that the universe itself is benevolent. The creative
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intelligence that exists is consistently showing us the benevolence of
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the universe. What's not benevolent is our need, our drive
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to survive in such a way that we're operating consistently
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out of fear rather than surrendering to it.
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It's yes, yeah, and that fear man assessed itself away
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and control and power and all sorts of different tactics.
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That's not living in the frequency frequency of the universe,
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which is a higher frequency of love or peace or
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whatever you want it to be. But it's not fear.
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This fear is not benevolence.
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You spoke that really well, Chris, Thank you.
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Yeah, Yeah, I appreciate that, But I want to come
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back to what you said, because you've sort of answered
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the next questions like what do we do about it? Right,
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and you and you and you jump the answer it.
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All you can control is how you relate to the universe,
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how you perceive the universe. As soon as you try
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to get everyone else to like get in line with
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how they're supposed to see it, you're back into the ego,
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You're back into control, You're back into ignorance, you're going
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to know all these things. All we really have this
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locus of control is I'm going to choose to try
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to align myself with the this frequency of the universe,
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which is inherently good, and I'm going to move to
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a place of trusting and allowing.
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And so with that, let's bring up the idea of
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soul contracts. Yes, I think that that really speaks to
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what you're talking about so inevitably, and I'm sure many
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of you on this call have had these experiences of
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having tough experiences with people that have come into your life.
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As I said earlier, we really do have. I'm sure
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there are many options. I'm going to give you the
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two sort of pools of those options. The people that
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have come into your life have come into your life
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to hurt you, or they've come into your life to
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help serve, to help serve your evolution. And I really
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hold strongly to this idea that we've created soul contracts
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prior to coming into this lifetime with people. And whether
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you believe that or not doesn't really matter. You get
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to hold whatever belief you want. But I'll tell you
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where how that plays out in my world. You can
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try it on for size if it works for you,
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and if it doesn't, you can let it go. Particularly
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in tough interactions, I notice that I can move into
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a place of blame, shame, defend, attack, and when I
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do that, I totally lose my ground. I'm definitely not
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a tree that's rooted in the earth. I'm somewhere else,
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and my reactivity and my nervous system goes into overdrive.
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But I can also come at things in a very
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different way. When I meet something that feels painful, where
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I feel struggle, where I feel like somebody is doing
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me wrong. In quotations, I can come to a place
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of the witness and I can observe what's happening inside
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of me and my thinking in the sensations in my body,
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and those the thoughts and the sensations themselves are like
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doors that open up possibility, and those doors, those sensations
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can actually be an invitation to calm down a little bit,
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to find a way to breathe, to calm my nervous system,
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and ask the question, what's actually wanting to happen here?
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And what I've come to in many different circumstances is
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this idea that people come into our lives to serve us,
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to serve our evolution, to help us find our way
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through our blind spots. And we can either choose to
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surrender to that and come into what's the lesson in
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this for me? Or we can start getting involved in
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everybody's business. And most of us spend our lives getting
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involved in everybody's business. It doesn't create peace, It creates
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a tremendous amount of conflict and upset, and it leaves
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us in a place that's very similar to countries battling,
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to government's battling. But if in those moments I can
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assume that this person is actually here for me, we
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chose to come together in this lifetime to work through
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this piece of work, and that they're opening a door
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for me to be able to see where I have
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a blind spot. Then something entirely different happens. And when
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I've learned the lesson that I need to learn, the
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struggle stops.
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And what's left peace Yeah, peace, okay, and actually a
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capacity to unconditionally lef yes, the person that brought the
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lesson in the first place. Yeah.
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But what's required of us in those moments is everything,
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because each of these people that come into our lives
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gives us an opportunity to face our egos, to see
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where the ego wants to show up and win a battle.
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I love.
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It reminds me of Rumy's quote, which I will bastardize
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as I do everything I try and quote. But the
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idea of there's a there's a place, do you remember it?
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There's there's beyond. I can't believe my words are really
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gone today. Beyond the place of right doing and wrongdoing,
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there's a field ill not you, yeah, and that and
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that field is the field of creative intelligence. That field
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is a place that exists beyond the ego. And that
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field is, without question, in my experience, benevolent yeah, and
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it's flow and as soon as you enter that space,
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life changes entirely. But to get there, you have to
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be willing to die. And what I mean by that
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is you have to be willing to let the ego
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die so that what's underneath can fully thrive.
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Yeah, and you're and everything everything you said in there,
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like I relate to and the way to describe soul contracts.
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The mechanics of it get me to the same place,
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and I relate to it just slightly differently. And it's
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sort of it's almost where you ended with the field.
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More so than a sort of this idea of like,
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you know, we go somewhere, we come back with the contract.
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Is I more relate to it is that we are
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just simply one unified field of consciousness, and we're these
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individuated sparks of consciousness that just our feelings, separated from
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the whole by the ego structure. But everything is absolutely
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interrelated and it's just one. There's no separation between the
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observer and the observed in this there's no actual real
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separation between me and you right here. It's just a
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perception issue from our ego. But we're fully connected as
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we are with every other human being and every other
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00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:41.719
source of consciousness living creature that exists out there. Everything's
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all happening in unison as it's meant to. There's nothing
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00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:48.559
out of place here. Everything is going exactly as it's
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being orchestrated by extent by this central creative, benevolent intelligence.
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And there's only our ego that are trying to create separation,
787
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that are locked in fear, that are trying to have
788
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a scarcity view that I have to protect myself or
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take or or I'm going to lose out and someone's
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going to get something different and not recognizing we're all
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just one consciousness. And as soon as I'm related to
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that way and feel into this one consciousness, which is
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the quantum otherwise known as the quantum field, I can
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just relax into it. No one's trying to get me.
795
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There's nothing bad happening, there's nothing good happening. It's just
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all happening in a benevolent way. And my only job here,
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the only thing I need to do is experience it.
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And the best way to experience that is one without suffering, right,
799
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not trying to fight it, but just going with the
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flow of it. I'm just here to experience life.
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That's it.
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There's nothing more I actually need to do. And any
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place that I'm suffering or creating anxiety or this is
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00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.320
coming up, it's just an opportunity for me to take
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00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.719
a closer look at that and dissolve it, which helps
806
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.199
me let go of my egostructure so I can just
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00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:03.239
be connected to this one field of benevolent creative intelligence
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that we call the quantum field.
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00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:11.519
That's funny. You know, I'm listening to you speak, and
810
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there's a part of me that hears you so completely
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that my whole body just got really quiet. And so
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I would say, I know that what you're speaking is
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absolute truth. And and I'm still wrapping my mind around understanding
814
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the quantum field.
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There's a famous Einstein quote, and I think this really
816
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is this quote they all got to attribute to them
817
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:55.199
because like all, like all quantum physicists who've seen the
818
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:59.880
field and understand the mechanics of our universe, they know it.
819
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They know it's not real. They know we're looking at
820
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.280
an illusion. And he goes, he goes, I know, and
821
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.800
what did you say? He goes, I know it's an illusion,
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but it's very convincing and that's the challenge again, I
823
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could get hold in and it's not like it's not
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like I'm walking around in this in this sort of
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like warm, warm blanket of oneness. It's like I'm reacting
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and getting thrown off course and getting knocked off the
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beam fifty thousand times a day. But I'm getting better
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at coming back to this. Stop stop getting into the drama, this,
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stop this idea that you're separate, and remember every time
830
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:39.519
you move yourself to a place of powerlessness and just
831
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.119
diving into the river and going for it. It works
832
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.639
out and little by little, day by day, hour by hour,
833
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.480
life just gets a little bit easier and I can
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reside in that place of peace a little bit longer
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each day. But it's like it's a lifelong work.
836
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It absolutely is. But you said something really important there
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that I want to qualify before we end the show,
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which is that every moment that we step into struggle
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and suffering is an opportunity for us to come back
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to peace. Every moment that we get lost in our
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00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:26.840
suffering and struggle is an invitation to come back to
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00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:33.360
a place of ease. We're not meant to live in
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00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:38.239
that place of struggle, that struggles simply a reminder to
844
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come home. But when our focus is so much out there,
845
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we think we're meant to control that all were actually
846
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:59.199
being asked to manage is what's happening in here, And
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choosing peace, choosing ease is the gift that we have
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in every moment.
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Yeah, and I think I think really important thing it's
850
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choosing peace is different than comfort. And I think that's
851
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the thing a lot of people get tripped off on.
852
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.639
Oh I'm trying to orient my life to be comfortable.
853
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:30.119
That's not the same as orienting to peace. Pieces I
854
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:32.440
am at ease and at peace, and I am accepting
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whatever the circumstances are. I'm at peace with them all
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the time. I don't need them to be a certain way.
857
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As soon as I need something to be a certain way,
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as soon as there's a good way in a bad way,
859
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.960
I am no longer at peace. And so peace is
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a state of mind. It's a frequency of consciousness where
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00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:51.880
I'm in full acceptance more than full acceptance of what is.
862
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:57.719
I'm in full acceptance of what is, and peace actually
863
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:02.760
requires it demands us to be uncomfortable.
864
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:05.840
Yeah, it's even a better way, beautiful. I got shivers,
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they're beautiful. Yeah, it's there's a tremendous amount of discomfort and.
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Peace because peace the discomfort comes from being we have
867
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to face ourselves. That's where it's not pretty, right, Like,
868
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.480
that's where this work is not. There's no bypassing in
869
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.440
this work. There's actually facing yourself, like coming face to
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00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.559
face with where you're getting in your own way.
871
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:33.880
Yeah. And if you're going along and if you're going
872
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along with the current of society which is trying, which
873
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.760
is leading us to have achievement, possessions, title, all the
874
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.719
stuff that is not the road to piece, you're on
875
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.800
the wrong path. And that's what makes it so hard.
876
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:53.960
Yeah, because what we're saying is is that in order
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00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:58.079
to be able to go with the flow, you actually
878
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.440
have to go against the grain.
879
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.000
That's really just uncomfortable.
880
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.239
I don't think there's anything more uncomfortable action.
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Yeah, that's a great place to stop. Okay, I think
882
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:15.440
we've pulled it together in the second half.
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Maybe, but maybe if we take this, maybe we try
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get mixed up.
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Yeah.
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I meantime, we hope that at least we start some
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thinking for you and you know how to reach us
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