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Welcome to Boulevard Beat, the podcast where design meets the
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rhythm of everyday life. I'm Megan Bloom, founder of Megan
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Bloom Interiors, joined by my co-host, Krista Rossbund, style and
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design editor at Traditional Home Magazine. Each week, we explore
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timeless design, what's shaping the way we live today, and
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how to create a home that feels as good as
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it looks. Through conversations with designers, creatives, and tastemakers, we
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believe great design isn't just seen, it's felt. Let's get
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into today's episode. Welcome back to Boulevard Beat. Today, we're
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talking about something near and dear to my heart, the
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intersection of creativity and business. We're joined by Jamie Young,
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the creative force behind Jamie Young Company, a brand known
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for its beautiful lighting, distinctive furnishings, and globally inspired designs.
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What started with a simple creative idea has grown into
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a successful company with nearly three decades of experience in
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the home industry. Jamie shares her entrepreneurial journey, the challenges
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and opportunity of building a design business, and her and
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how she continues to find inspiration while evolving her brand.
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It's a wonderful conversation about creativity, taking risks, and turning
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a passion for design into a lasting business. Let's hit
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the boulevard. Well, Jamie, please tell us about the street
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that you grew up on.
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The street I grew up on. Well, it's a funny
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thing because I grew up on a street called Tigertail.
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It's in Brentwood in West LA. And I, as a person,
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wherever I travel in the world... somehow it comes up,
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the street tiger tail. Now I can't tell you, it's
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just a strange phenomenon, but it was, you know, it's
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in the hills in Los Angeles, close to the beach.
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And it was a beautiful part of it still today.
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It's a spectacular part of the town, part of the city.
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But when I grew up, it was, it was really,
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you know, still a sleepy area. And through my travels
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around the world, I, I'm always asking people where they're
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from and I like to connect to people. So I'm
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always like, Oh, where are you from? And if they
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say LA, where in LA, and then there's say a
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West LA. And then I have to, I don't know why,
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but I'm always having to pull that information out of people. And, um,
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I have been in the smallest, farthest parts of this
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globe and met people who grew up on tiger tail
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and That's crazy.
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Small world.
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It is crazy. Like, I'm not kidding. I've been on
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the top of a mountain in Bhutan at Tiger's Nest,
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climbing up there, and we were at this little tea
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spot in the middle of the mountains. And I met
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a woman, and we started the conversation, and it ended
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up that she literally lived on tiger tail. And the
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same thing in India, in Udaipur, in a tiny little
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jewelry shop, completely random place. Rope on Tiger Tail. So
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that's where I grew up.
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Well, it's a great name for sure.
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Yeah.
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Jamie, growing up in Los Angeles, you know, it's a
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city that's just with the hustle and bustle of creatives everywhere.
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And I know you've been surrounded by them. It's certainly
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the vernacular of the city. We'd love to hear your
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experience among art, entertainment, and music and how that shaped
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your childhood.
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I think that it was a critical part of my...
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my point of view, my DNA is how I grew up.
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I grew up in an environment of all creatives, all entrepreneurs.
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So my mom was an artist, a sculptor, a painter.
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She did ceramics, was a big part of who she was.
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And we had a potter's wheel and a kiln in
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my backyard. And then my dad was an entrepreneur. And
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he was a guy from Brooklyn that knew every single
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person in LA, like a very personality out there connector.
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And so my entire life was about creativity, whatever you
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can possibly do, you should go for it. My father's
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favorite expression to me was the world is your oyster.
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I got lucky that I had parents that were that supportive.
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But I was always really inspired by entrepreneurs and creative environments.
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My mom put me in art classes from the time
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I was five years old, maybe. I was designing my
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own bedroom based on going to the Rose Bowl flea
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market and finding antiques and putting things together from the
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time I was seven. I was designing my own clothes
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because I wanted to for big events, for family events.
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So I I definitely grew up in what would probably
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be called a very open, hippie-esque environment, like everything's cool,
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whatever you want to go for, go for. At the
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same time, there was a lot of energy put on,
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you should go for things. Don't think you can't have
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the world and go for it. Don't be afraid of it.
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I love that. Just instilling that in you at a
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young age and always having that a part of your
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life too is great.
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Yeah, it was fun.
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Obviously, one of the key purposes of starting a business
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is you're filling a void in the marketplace. What specifically
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did you feel was missing in the design arena when
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you started your company?
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At the time that I started, you know, I started
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with simple things like concrete cement pots that I found
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on the street in Mexico. And then I put orchids
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in them and drove them up to florists in L.A.
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found that these– I had this idea of taking a
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simple terracotta pot and casting it in cement because I
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hadn't seen it. And I loved that it was just
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a new material. And I've always kind of been about
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what's the new material? Take some basic classic and put
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a new spin on it. And that's how I started.
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And then very quickly, my husband and I, my husband
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was a sculptor at the time. I still is. And
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we said we should do some beautiful concrete lamps And
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what I think was missing was beautiful lampshades. The idea
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that lampshades could be more works of art than a white,
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simple shade. And at the time, no one was doing that.
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So we dove in and I love textiles and he
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designed the bases and I designed the shades. So that's
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where we found a niche. I did not start. I
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wasn't like third generation home furnishing business. person. I started
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because I loved design and I loved people. So for me,
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it was more about, and I, of course, you always
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look at things in hindsight. In hindsight, I realized like
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I didn't know anything. I just knew what I loved.
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And I think sometimes that naive part is what is
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a great way to start something because then you don't
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limit your thinking. And that's how I started. And really,
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it was lampshades was it was something I felt was missing.
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Jamie, I think it's so fun that you said that,
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you know, it all started with a little terracotta pot
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and then maybe the lampshade when you launched your business, because.
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You are from L.A. and there's that famous business piece
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of advice that comes from Disney, which it started with
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a little mouse. And it started with that little mouse.
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And then it grew to what we know of a
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behemoth of a brand name. today, which leads me to
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my next question. There's a big difference between starting a business,
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which so many people do, and they do it successfully.
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And I think that is a driver. It's sort of
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a bucket list for a lot of people. They want
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to build something that's their own. But there's a difference
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between that and building a brand. So can you explain
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in your own words what the difference is to you
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and how you've gone about doing both?
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Yeah, it's again, I'm going to go back to when
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I started, I was naive because in a good way,
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I always go back to you start a business. And
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sometimes if you know too much, you might not even
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go for it, right? Because it's hard. There's nothing easy
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about launching a brand or a business or both. And
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then you couple it with manufacturing and shipping. And it's
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a very tough business. But I had a point of
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view and I felt strongly about a design point of
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view as well as I loved the business side. So
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I continued to use both sides of my brain on
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that and hired people who could help me with both.
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Creating a widget, for lack of a better word, is
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hard to do and you could be very successful at
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producing something. Creating a brand in home furnishings 30 years
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ago was almost impossible. It didn't exist in home furnishings
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the same way. You know, you had the designer business,
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and then you had all these kind of what we
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would now call white label companies producing product that were
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selling to retail stores. You didn't have... I was doing
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something that really wasn't out there, and You know, I
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remember my first big PR that I got was in
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El Decor. I happened to have a young friend who
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started at El Decor, and she was looking for– she
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needed to bring, like, who the new company was. And
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I had three lamps and five lampshades. That was it.
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But she talked them into you know, giving me a
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two-page spread. And that friend happened to be Quintana Dunn,
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which is Joan Didion's daughter, who has passed. But she
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was somebody I grew up with, and she was starting
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in her career. And so I got this two-page spread
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in El Decor, and as a maker is what we
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would call them today. They didn't call us makers then.
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I don't know what we were. But it really helped
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me launch both a brand and a company. And then
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Neiman Marcus at the time had this incredible catalog, and
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they were one of the first people really doing this.
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Them and Martha Stewart, I think, were those catalog of home.
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And they put me on the cover. And we're two
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different things that launched our company, both from a brand
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perspective and manufacturing and doing business. So it takes both things.
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I think a brand, you've got to continue with your
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point of view. You have to make sure you're really
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saying something about what you are trying to have as
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a look.
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And then you have to back it up with a
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really good business model and manufacturing and quality and all
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of those things. Does that answer the question?
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I think that answers the question perfectly. And I'm still
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stuck on the fact that you not only did you
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have wonderful parental influences of creativity, but you had Joan
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Didion nearby, too.
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Wow. I grew up with her daughter. And I think
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that you forget when you grow up in L.A. at
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that time, it There was no social media. So we
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were all it was everybody was blended. Right. And so
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you were around a lot of creative people. I was
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fortunate to be around some really out of the box thinkers.
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And that helped me. It helped me, you know, take
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huge risk.
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Honestly, you've done both building a business and building a
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brand so beautifully. And I think that sometimes what happens is,
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you know, I think I like. appreciate that you've been
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so candid and said you were naive because there is
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a problem with knowing too much oh gosh yeah.
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I I don't I think that there were well I
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remember having this idea when I found these cement pots
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in Mexico and I knew that if I bought that
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there were a dollar on the street right and I
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thought okay I can buy them for a dollar and
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did my math and then sell them to the woods,
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which was this amazing florist in Brentwood for $ 12. And
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I thought, holy cow, like that's an amazing margin. I
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got this. And I remember speaking to one of my
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dad's best friends, who's a business guy. And I said,
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I have this idea and blah, blah, blah. And the
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first thing he said to me is ideas are great,
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but the difference between someone with an idea and a
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business is they know how to execute and never forget that.
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And to take the leap, I needed to be naive.
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And I think that nothing wrong with business school and
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all the learnings, but sometimes as an entrepreneur, you have
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to take risk and being naive really helped me take
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the risk.
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Yeah, it's true for sure.
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So Jamie, a minute ago, you talked about the change,
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not having social media. And I mean, you've witnessed so
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much change in the industry and just life in general
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over the past three decades, the infancy of the internet,
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online shopping, the aforementioned social media. Describe how all of
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these additions to the world have affected your business and
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its growth. And what part of the business do you
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still wish operated in an old school manner? If you do,
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if you feel that way, some people love all the technology.
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I don't, I'm such a, I feel like I should
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have been born 50 years before I was someday.
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I do really embrace technology, but I embrace change that my,
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I am, I am built for change. I love it.
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I love to, to figure out how to take what
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I do and make it relative and relevant, I should say,
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to today. The changes have been phenomenal, right? When we
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first started and we would go to a trade show
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in New York and you would meet a ton of
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people and you would handwrite orders and you would connect
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to each person and then you'd go home or go
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to your hotel room with your salespeople and you would
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add each order up with a calculator and then you
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would put it on some pieces of paper and make
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sure and go, Oh my gosh, look what we did.
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there wasn't as much conflict of how to sell.
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So at the time, the only people you really sold
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to were retail stores. That was it. That's, that's who
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existed when we first started. And then, And the biggest
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conflict was you couldn't sell to two or three stores
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on the same street. And then from there, everything else evolved.
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You know, I missed some of those opportunities and didn't
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see the future in certain ways. And then in other ways,
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I dug in and learned and grew with what was needed.
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the human relationship part. To me, that's the most fun.
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more creativity we can do today. I don't like the
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distraction of technology for any of us. You know, I
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think it, I, I just say, sometimes it just, it
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takes you away from focus, but I do love the creative,
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the access to creativity. I think that that part makes
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it really fun. So, and today, you know, we, we
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evolved with everybody. Um, I remember that Serena and Lily
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were my neighbors at a New York gift show and
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they were younger than me and they had just started,
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but they, um, they were doing bed linens, I think.
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we're going to go direct to the consumer. And I
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was like, Oh, you are. Oh my goodness. Like that's
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a leap. I don't even know. I didn't even think
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I could. Um, And then obviously you watched how they
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grew a brand, right? So today I just welcome young ideas.
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I welcome fresh ideas and approaches so that we are
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meeting our customers where they are today. I think that's
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the most important thing. Are we meeting our customers? And
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it goes also back to change. I love change. I
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think that changes. It's scary for people. They like to
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do what they do and stay in a formula, but
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change is what keeps us fresh.
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Well, I think some of the issue with change today
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is we used to see change, and now I'm making
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myself sound all old and everything.
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When you saw change, it was a slow drip change.
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And just when you learn how to do the next thing,
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that's already dinosaur because something else has moved along.
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Think change is scarier today because 100 years ago, you
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didn't realize what could be done. Now we know what
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can be done. And it's like everything can be done.
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And I think that makes it a little more challenging.
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I think.
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there's no everything in moderation. I mean, you do have
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to really temper and moderate the way that you're thinking.
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I find for what I do is every six months
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I relook and I'm like, okay, are we, are we
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on point? Do we need to shift anything? What does
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it look like? And every couple of years I have
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to really dig in and, We're never going to be
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changing as fast as technology is changing. That's impossible. Right.
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And there's a pendulum like you. Social media is amazing.
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But at the same time, what are all these small,
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wonderful designer events happening all over the country that we
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need to have personal relationships with? And you kind of
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have to continue to go back and forth. I think
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the retail experience is coming back, but it's coming back
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in a way that hopefully retailers are creating true experiences
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and reasons for people to walk into their stores. The
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designer business continues to evolve. And what does that look
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like and how can Jamie Young Company meet those people?
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you can get overwhelmed by so much of it. So
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I guess my job as a leader is to temper
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that and pick one thing and then another. I'm always
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going back and forth on that stuff.
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Jamie, is there a favorite part that you have or
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you think that is most important when it comes to
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maintaining those relationships or meeting the people? You mentioned trade
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shows just a moment ago, but Is there something that
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you love or you think that's more important than something
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else for reasons of engagement with people?
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I think the one-on-one engagement is the best thing I
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could do. It's probably my– the thing that I'm probably
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the best at is that I just love people and
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the connections to people. I love to hear about their lives,
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both personal and their businesses, and what works. and what doesn't.
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And that to me is the most important thing I
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probably have to offer as the president of this company
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is to listen, is to be curious. And you do
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that the most when you're engaging one-on-one for me.
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Well, and you really, you get a different perspective too
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when you're talking directly to the designer and how they're,
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what they're hearing and seeing in the marketplace too.
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Yeah, you do. You got to be open. I always
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think about, I know what I know, but I'm pretty
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clear that I also know what I don't know. You know, like,
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and I try to do that with everybody in the team. Like,
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don't be afraid of not knowing. Don't be afraid of
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making a mistake. Don't be afraid of being like, Wow,
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that is such a cool thing to do.
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How can we.
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Incorporate that in Jamie Young? I think that's it. After
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30 years, 29 years, you have to keep learning. And
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I do feel good about that for myself. You know,
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where I am in my career is that I... I
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still have a lot of enthusiasm about where we're going
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and new creatives and all that stuff. And it's still
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so important.
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Well, Jamie, one of the big things about what you
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do is editing and putting a collection together and all
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your merchandise. Your collections have just such fun novelty pieces
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that are really unique, unique textures. How do you decide
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which of your ideas are worth executing?
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We have a pretty good process that we follow. And
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it's not me alone, for sure. You know, we have
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a great team that we all work together. We have
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creative and marketing and our director of product development and
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myself looking at product and sales coming in. But it
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does start with my gut and our team's gut on
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what's beautiful and what speaks to the DNA of Jamie Young.
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You know, what's the point of view? And then from there,
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we're realistic, right? we look at data, we look at
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what sells, we look at what doesn't sell, we look
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at what's wow, that maybe we don't need to sell
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as much of, but it certainly rounds out what we're
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trying to do. So it's a combination of things, but
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we don't go in with our eyes closed. It's not
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just a gut, oh, I love this. Now, years and
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years ago, it was more of that, right? When it
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was simpler and we're smaller. But today, we do have
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to look at data. We have to look at what
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seems to work. We know that for whatever reasons, a
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white lamp sells better than anything else. And actually, so
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does a blue. So that's important to us. Those are
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some of our best things. We know garden stools. We
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sell a ton of garden stools. And they're garden stools
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that can go in a shower, they can go as
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a side table, or they can go outside. But What
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makes them work for Jamie Young? So we have some
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core data that we'd like to follow. And then we
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always need to have that wild, playful, interesting, unique thing
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that is truly about the art.
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Jamie, I have to pop in for just a second
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because I featured a stool that you guys produced with
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baseball stitching around its edges. And to prepare for this,
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I went back in to see if you still sold that.
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And you do.
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We do. Our leather ottomans are... are still some of
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our top selling items. So I love so much that
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we're not in the fashion business because things last. You
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can buy something or you can design something and it
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can be, it's 15 years that it's been in the line.
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We've added to it. We've, we've, we have all different
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leathers and hides in it, but people, it's still, it
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still looks current and new and fresh in someone's space. It's, Um,
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the quality is fantastic, but yes, we continue to do
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that stuff. And that's part of our DNA. So, yeah, we,
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we have a lot of skews that still work, you know,
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and we look at that all the time, even if
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it's something that I'm sick of that I don't want
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to see anymore. If it's selling, that means it's resonating
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and I'm not going to, you know, cut my nose
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to spite my face as they say, you know, yeah,
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good design and business. I think, um, For your audience
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and for designers out there and people, when you start
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a business, you're doing it for the love of the
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art most of the time, right? I never went into
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this business thinking I was going to be an international
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logistics expert. But unfortunately, or fortunately, whatever you want to
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look at, I now have to be an international logistics
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import export expert or else I can't do my business.
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I need to understand who's making what where and what's
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being charged in tariffs and problems and challenges to do
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a good job. And we want to make money. You know,
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we are in business to stay in business. So I
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got to look at the whole thing.
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Well, Jamie, let's talk about lighting. It's a great category
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of your brands. You have such beautiful light fixtures. And
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Krista and I are big fans of lighting in general
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and the impact that it can do in the space.
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And I think what's so spectacular about lighting is it's
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a category that homeowners can have fun with, even if
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they're a little more conservative on their designs. And, you know,
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the good news is that lighting is kind of out
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of the way. So as long as your scale is correct,
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you know, you can really choose whatever style you want.
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But the one thing that comes along with that, too,
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are quality difference. What factors should clients look for when
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selecting lighting to ensure quality? Is it all about materials?
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No. Yes, materials are important. Obviously, we've been designing lighting
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using unique materials from around the world. That's been part
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of what we've done since we started. So materials make
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it interesting visually. Scale, critical. Quality, it's the chain, the socket,
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the metal, the finial, the weight of the product. Does
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it lie straight? Does it sit straight? when you're picking vendors,
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do they have enough diversity to find different things? So
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you're not just buying one piece from one vendor and
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hopefully you're, you're really getting in a relationship with that vendor. So,
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so that you can pick their chandeliers, there's portables, table lamps,
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there's floor lamps, there's wall sconces, you know, Jamie Young
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Company has built all of those categories and we continue
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to expand the sort of breadth of what we do. We, we,
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We obviously can't compete with some of the very large
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lighting people out there, but we don't try to. Come
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to us and you're going to get that traditional look,
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our take on it. You're going to get our coastal look.
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You're going to get, we're going to give you something
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great for the mountains, something great for the city or
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the desert, great materials, and it's going to show up
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not broken. It's going to show up. um, packaged really well.
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We're in stock. So we get to ship to you
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in 48 hours. Like we're, we're probably 90% in stock
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for everything that we offer. So these would be things
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that you would want to look at with a vendor are,
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and is the vendor easy to work with? Um, do
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they stand behind their product? Do they have all the
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correct dims and drawings so that when, when we're being specced, it's,
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you know, we're making sure that we're helping the designer
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to get their lighting correct in this space.
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Jamie, we're going to pivot now to vintage and antiques,
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which is not what you do. However, we know that
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buying vintage and antiques has skyrocketed in popularity, especially among
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the younger generation that is very environmentally aware. And frankly,
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they're more aware of consumption too. They really demand the
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story that's behind the product. So how do antiques and
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vintage objects play into what you do? And I'm guessing
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that as you're researching, as you're seeing what's out on
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the market, that you're paying attention to what other people
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are doing too, because your merchandise has to coexist among that.
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So what does that look like for you and your team?
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Well, I am personally a collector of antiques. I'm personally
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a collector of mixing, of The way that I live,
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the way that I design my own homes, it's all
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about mixing it up. And so I think that that's
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how people live. And the reality is that most people
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have their grandmother's floor lamp or side table with something
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fresh and new on it. So we believe in that
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eclectic mix and to dig into it. As far as
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inspiration goes, of course, you're always looking what's old is
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new again and what's the fresh take on it. We're
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also always looking at using natural materials as much as possible.
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We don't do huge introductions where it's 300, 400, 500
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new SKUs. We're not about that. We just did 54
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pieces as new introductions for High Point this coming October.
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And we have another– introduction next April. But we're very
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mindful of more is not more. You know, there's sort
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of a beautiful balance in product, in materials, and who's
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making the material, who's making the product to be cognizant
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of the consumer today. And also in our marketplaces. where
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I am always pushing like mix it up, take the
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old with the new because that keeps things fresh.
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Also something else that I think influences perhaps more than
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anything in the design industry is travel. And I know
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that you've done a lot of it. So I Talk
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to us about what travel looks like. Again, Megan and
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I talk about global influences all the time, just travel
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in general. So talk about what that's done for your business,
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how it informs design, and how it keeps your eyes fresh.
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Yeah. Well, travel's been probably the first thing and reason
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we started this company. Honestly, it was like we are,
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as my husband, an artist, and me, an entrepreneur and
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creative person. we started in India 27 years ago and
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that was when cows were walking through the airport. So
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it not, not even an exaggeration. It was just literally
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cows walking through the airport and we've, it's been part
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of our passion to grow a company is the travel
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part of it. Um, and what each country does, it's different.
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And it's not just about, um, manufacturing mass produced product.
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It's really about materials. And so we continue to do that.
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00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:07.849
We've always, our tagline has been a well-traveled home for years.
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Now people are talking about it a lot more and
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kind of leaning into it, but that's been our motto
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for so long is, and as I said, we started
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in India and have just a love affair with India
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and that we've had that for so long and so
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many friends there and really understand the factories and their capabilities.
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In fact, last year we went back to a factory
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we hadn't seen in a little while and they were so,
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and the man, the father who ran the factory, his
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son was now running the factory. The father was there
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and the son. And I forgot that the son is
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my son's age. And 15 years ago we took our
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sons or gosh, I'm almost 18 years ago to this
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factory and he, they played with this little, with this
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00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:05.509
son in, in the backyard of the factory. And they
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had a photo of, of my sons and their son
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in the front hall of their factory. And I was like, Oh, that,
537
00:32:15.430 --> 00:32:19.960
you know, there's something so emotional about you take all
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00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.470
the business stuff away, the relationships you've built and, And here,
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this young man is now running that company. It just,
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it means something. You know, we work with people all
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over the world, and they're just like us, trying to
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make a living in small factories and family run. And
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what is the specialty in that region that can do
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something great? You know, so... all these years I really
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think I've learned so much about where to go for what,
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what makes it, what's great. And I'm always constantly inspired.
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We're in Indonesia and the Philippines and Vietnam and China
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and India and exploring new materials, old materials and how
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they look new. So I have such, such loving connection
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to the global world of design. Um, And I'm always
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blown away by it. And even if I'm not manufacturing
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something in a certain country, I'm blown away by design
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and what it does for us. And whether we're in
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Portugal or we, as I said, we were in Bhutan
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in a tiny little country or anywhere else, we get
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inspired by what these creators are doing.
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Well, it is interesting because it's really art that in
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all variations of art, that connects us all just to
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each other in present day and throughout history too. When
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you look at hieroglyphics, when you look at quilts that
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told a story, everything that is created, I think is
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beyond just its beauty. It's to say something about a
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moment in time or, and, and so, you know, I
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love that you have gotten so much out of travel.
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I think every, anybody who travels does because it's more about,
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you know, I think when we use the word travel, we,
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equate that to vacation. And it's always, it's a learning
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experience of connecting with people and regions and just enjoying
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the beauty that exists all throughout the world, not.
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Just where you are. Yeah. And history. My husband is
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a huge history nut. I don't know what else to
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call him because he has such a deep knowledge of
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the history of the world and design and creativity. And
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we can go somewhere and you get inspired by the
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craziest things, the smallest things that have so much history
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and why and how. There's a new museum in Los Angeles,
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the Guessin Museum that just opened in LA County Museum area.
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And it is, I tell anybody who comes to Los
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Angeles needs to spend a day there. It's spiritual. It's
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insane how incredible it is. And they take the history
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from all over the world and of water jugs, for example,
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and what the Korean water jug looked like in the 1800s,
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and what the Spanish water jug looked like, and what
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the French water jug looked like, and the ceramics that
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were produced all with a purpose. They needed water. But
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in today's design world, we take those things and we say, wow,
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that's just the most perfect accessory. And can we go
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to Korea to produce it? Or do we go to
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China because they do incredible ceramics? But the history of
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why things were made and then how you incorporate that
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is what really is exciting.
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Jamie, within the design industry, I think it's a dream
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of so many people, many designers especially, to build their
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own line of products. And you talked about being a
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00:36:03.190 --> 00:36:06.570
risk taker earlier and how sometimes it's better to be
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a little naive. But the one challenge can really be
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00:36:10.610 --> 00:36:16.190
that inventory. So what are a few key common points
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that people should know about before pursuing a business that's
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specifically a business that carries inventory?
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That is something that you need to understand takes cash.
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It really does take an enormous amount of money, great
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banking experience and communication and relationships, and a strong operational
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ability to know when to do your orders, your cash flow,
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your inventory flow. Those things are so important. And today,
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they're more important than ever because of the challenges we
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face globally in bringing things in. You know, I would
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love to produce everything in the U.S., and it's impossible
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for what we do. I would do anything to find
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local ceramicists and local glassblowers, but then I wouldn't be
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able to sell it. And I think that inventory flow,
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00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.739
it's its own art. So I do think that you
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need to look at that carefully, and maybe you partner.
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If you have great design ideas, but you don't have
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an operational background or– maybe the financial ability to do that,
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then go partner with someone because somebody needs great design.
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Not everybody has great design and the ability to finance it.
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But that is a real thing because customers, the one
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thing that did change over the years is our friends
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00:37:44.530 --> 00:37:47.519
at Amazon all of a sudden made everybody want everything tomorrow.
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And how do you address that? And if you can't,
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You don't have the same ability to grow your business.
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That's just a real thing.
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Well, and the ability to adapt. And it sounds like
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you have done that over the years if you've been
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00:38:04.050 --> 00:38:07.469
in business for almost 30 years. That's quite an accomplishment.
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00:38:08.010 --> 00:38:10.159
Tell us what's next for Jamie Young.
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00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:13.659
So Jamie Young is I like to feel like we
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are a legacy brand. that Kristen knows forever, but we're
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also a startup. I like the thought process of what
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00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:27.090
a startup looks like. And we are always reinventing. And
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I think that's what's keeping us relevant. We have launched
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furniture and we have a lot more to come in
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00:38:34.619 --> 00:38:39.039
the furniture arena where we're doing incredible chairs and seating
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00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:45.159
and case goods and building on those two categories. We're
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00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.840
also expanding our chandeliers, expanding our lighting. So all of
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our categories we're touching, we're expanding more of, and we're
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going to be rolling out more and more. We're speaking
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to the interior designer that's looking for great quality inventory
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that we can ship quickly and a great partner like vendor.
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When I say what's next, it's always about digging into
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continuing to be better and better at part at, customer
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service at all the stuff that makes a designer's life easier.
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So we keep doing that, but the furniture I'm thrilled with,
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00:39:22.579 --> 00:39:25.820
we're just, we've been working on it. So, oh my gosh. And,
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00:39:26.170 --> 00:39:30.989
we just launched 54 pieces for this market. And we
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00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:33.769
have about 100 in next April. And a lot of
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00:39:33.809 --> 00:39:35.210
it is great, real furniture.
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00:39:35.510 --> 00:39:36.750
That's exciting. Can't wait to see it.
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00:39:36.750 --> 00:39:37.840
Yeah, we're excited.
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00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:40.949
Well, Jamie, we like to end each episode with the
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same two questions as well. Tell us about the beach
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that keeps you going.
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00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:48.579
And this is one that keeps me going in that
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it helps me with my downtime and it helps me
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relax and get my mind clear. And it's romance novels.
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I find that sitting and reading a really– well, it
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has to be well-written. I'm not so good at the
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super silly ones, but I do love a great romance novel.
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And I find that it's been– forever I read– Help
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self-help books. I still do a little and business books
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forever and ever. And one day someone said to me,
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do you what do you do you ever just read
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for fun anymore? And I was like, I think I
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forgot that. So I picked up a romance novel and
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now I'm just it's been four years or five years
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and I'm completely hooked. And it's the best ability to
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just shut down.
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It's like the historical ones or are they modern day?
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I do all of them. there's some that I do
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that are like, um, spy novels. Like my husband will
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read a spy novel and I'll read a spy novel.
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And I'm like, I think mine's much more fun. You
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should try mine. And he's like, Oh my gosh, why
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aren't they writing my spy novels like this? Like you go,
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you go to the bedroom and the door shuts and
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his ends and mine are like, no, we get to
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go in the bedroom and then the spy novel. So
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I think that there is something about that that makes, um,
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You know, I love to have fun. I love to
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not be taking things too seriously because life is already
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pretty challenging, right? We all have our challenges. So this
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is one of those things that keeps me light and
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having fun.
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What a great beat. And finally, what does your perfect
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boulevard look like?
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That's changed over the years. I would say it used
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to be much more about like walking down the street
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in Manhattan and all of the exciting things. buzz of
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so many different things happening at once. And today, my
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boulevard is probably much more about an open road, whether
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it's at the beach or the mountains or the desert.
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And it's much more serene and peaceful. And that probably
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speaks to the idea that there's so much going on
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in my brain that just like the romance novels, I
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just need a clear, clean palette to visualize. So I
696
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spent a lot of time in Arizona, out in the desert,
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in the mountains, and at the beach. And they equally
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do something very peaceful for my brain.
699
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Well, Jamie, it has been such a joy to speak
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with you and talk about your business and the creativity
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behind it. And just keep doing the same thing. We're
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excited to see what you unveil in High Point.
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Megan and I are.
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privileged in the fact that we get to attend High
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Point in this business. And we're just really excited to
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see what you come up with next.
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So thank you. Thank you guys so much. I hope
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this was kind of a good fun for your listeners
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to hear about. I know you have all kinds of
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people on your platform, but coming from a manufacturer designer
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is different than other approaches. So I really enjoyed it.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you for listening to Boulevard Beach. If you enjoyed
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Welcome to Boulevard Beat, the podcast where design meets the
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rhythm of everyday life. I'm Megan Bloom, founder of Megan
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Bloom Interiors, joined by my co-host, Krista Rossbund, style and
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design editor at Traditional Home Magazine. Each week, we explore
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timeless design, what's shaping the way we live today, and
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how to create a home that feels as good as
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it looks. Through conversations with designers, creatives, and tastemakers, we
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believe great design isn't just seen, it's felt. Let's get
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into today's episode. Welcome back to Boulevard Beat. Today, we're
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talking about something near and dear to my heart, the
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intersection of creativity and business. We're joined by Jamie Young,
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the creative force behind Jamie Young Company, a brand known
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for its beautiful lighting, distinctive furnishings, and globally inspired designs.
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What started with a simple creative idea has grown into
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a successful company with nearly three decades of experience in
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the home industry. Jamie shares her entrepreneurial journey, the challenges
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and opportunity of building a design business, and her and
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how she continues to find inspiration while evolving her brand.
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It's a wonderful conversation about creativity, taking risks, and turning
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a passion for design into a lasting business. Let's hit
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the boulevard. Well, Jamie, please tell us about the street
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that you grew up on.
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The street I grew up on. Well, it's a funny
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thing because I grew up on a street called Tigertail.
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It's in Brentwood in West LA. And I, as a person,
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wherever I travel in the world... somehow it comes up,
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the street tiger tail. Now I can't tell you, it's
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just a strange phenomenon, but it was, you know, it's
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in the hills in Los Angeles, close to the beach.
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And it was a beautiful part of it still today.
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It's a spectacular part of the town, part of the city.
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But when I grew up, it was, it was really,
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you know, still a sleepy area. And through my travels
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around the world, I, I'm always asking people where they're
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from and I like to connect to people. So I'm
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always like, Oh, where are you from? And if they
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say LA, where in LA, and then there's say a
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West LA. And then I have to, I don't know why,
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but I'm always having to pull that information out of people. And, um,
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I have been in the smallest, farthest parts of this
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globe and met people who grew up on tiger tail
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and That's crazy.
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Small world.
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It is crazy. Like, I'm not kidding. I've been on
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the top of a mountain in Bhutan at Tiger's Nest,
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climbing up there, and we were at this little tea
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spot in the middle of the mountains. And I met
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a woman, and we started the conversation, and it ended
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up that she literally lived on tiger tail. And the
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same thing in India, in Udaipur, in a tiny little
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jewelry shop, completely random place. Rope on Tiger Tail. So
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that's where I grew up.
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Well, it's a great name for sure.
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Yeah.
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Jamie, growing up in Los Angeles, you know, it's a
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city that's just with the hustle and bustle of creatives everywhere.
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And I know you've been surrounded by them. It's certainly
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the vernacular of the city. We'd love to hear your
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experience among art, entertainment, and music and how that shaped
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your childhood.
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I think that it was a critical part of my...
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my point of view, my DNA is how I grew up.
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I grew up in an environment of all creatives, all entrepreneurs.
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So my mom was an artist, a sculptor, a painter.
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She did ceramics, was a big part of who she was.
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And we had a potter's wheel and a kiln in
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my backyard. And then my dad was an entrepreneur. And
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he was a guy from Brooklyn that knew every single
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person in LA, like a very personality out there connector.
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And so my entire life was about creativity, whatever you
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can possibly do, you should go for it. My father's
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favorite expression to me was the world is your oyster.
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I got lucky that I had parents that were that supportive.
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But I was always really inspired by entrepreneurs and creative environments.
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My mom put me in art classes from the time
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I was five years old, maybe. I was designing my
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own bedroom based on going to the Rose Bowl flea
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market and finding antiques and putting things together from the
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time I was seven. I was designing my own clothes
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because I wanted to for big events, for family events.
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So I I definitely grew up in what would probably
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be called a very open, hippie-esque environment, like everything's cool,
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whatever you want to go for, go for. At the
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same time, there was a lot of energy put on,
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you should go for things. Don't think you can't have
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the world and go for it. Don't be afraid of it.
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I love that. Just instilling that in you at a
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young age and always having that a part of your
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life too is great.
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Yeah, it was fun.
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Obviously, one of the key purposes of starting a business
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is you're filling a void in the marketplace. What specifically
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did you feel was missing in the design arena when
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you started your company?
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At the time that I started, you know, I started
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with simple things like concrete cement pots that I found
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on the street in Mexico. And then I put orchids
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in them and drove them up to florists in L.A.
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found that these– I had this idea of taking a
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simple terracotta pot and casting it in cement because I
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hadn't seen it. And I loved that it was just
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a new material. And I've always kind of been about
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what's the new material? Take some basic classic and put
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a new spin on it. And that's how I started.
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And then very quickly, my husband and I, my husband
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was a sculptor at the time. I still is. And
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we said we should do some beautiful concrete lamps And
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what I think was missing was beautiful lampshades. The idea
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that lampshades could be more works of art than a white,
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simple shade. And at the time, no one was doing that.
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So we dove in and I love textiles and he
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designed the bases and I designed the shades. So that's
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where we found a niche. I did not start. I
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wasn't like third generation home furnishing business. person. I started
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because I loved design and I loved people. So for me,
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it was more about, and I, of course, you always
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look at things in hindsight. In hindsight, I realized like
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I didn't know anything. I just knew what I loved.
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And I think sometimes that naive part is what is
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a great way to start something because then you don't
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limit your thinking. And that's how I started. And really,
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it was lampshades was it was something I felt was missing.
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Jamie, I think it's so fun that you said that,
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you know, it all started with a little terracotta pot
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and then maybe the lampshade when you launched your business, because.
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You are from L.A. and there's that famous business piece
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of advice that comes from Disney, which it started with
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a little mouse. And it started with that little mouse.
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behemoth of a brand name. today, which leads me to
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my next question. There's a big difference between starting a business,
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which so many people do, and they do it successfully.
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a bucket list for a lot of people. They want
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to build something that's their own. But there's a difference
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between that and building a brand. So can you explain
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in your own words what the difference is to you
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and how you've gone about doing both?
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Yeah, it's again, I'm going to go back to when
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I started, I was naive because in a good way,
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I always go back to you start a business. And
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sometimes if you know too much, you might not even
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go for it, right? Because it's hard. There's nothing easy
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about launching a brand or a business or both. And
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then you couple it with manufacturing and shipping. And it's
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a very tough business. But I had a point of
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view and I felt strongly about a design point of
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view as well as I loved the business side. So
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I continued to use both sides of my brain on
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that and hired people who could help me with both.
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Creating a widget, for lack of a better word, is
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hard to do and you could be very successful at
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producing something. Creating a brand in home furnishings 30 years
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ago was almost impossible. It didn't exist in home furnishings
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the same way. You know, you had the designer business,
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and then you had all these kind of what we
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would now call white label companies producing product that were
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selling to retail stores. You didn't have... I was doing
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something that really wasn't out there, and You know, I
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remember my first big PR that I got was in
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El Decor. I happened to have a young friend who
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started at El Decor, and she was looking for– she
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needed to bring, like, who the new company was. And
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I had three lamps and five lampshades. That was it.
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But she talked them into you know, giving me a
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two-page spread. And that friend happened to be Quintana Dunn,
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which is Joan Didion's daughter, who has passed. But she
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was somebody I grew up with, and she was starting
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in her career. And so I got this two-page spread
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in El Decor, and as a maker is what we
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would call them today. They didn't call us makers then.
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I don't know what we were. But it really helped
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me launch both a brand and a company. And then
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Neiman Marcus at the time had this incredible catalog, and
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they were one of the first people really doing this.
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Them and Martha Stewart, I think, were those catalog of home.
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And they put me on the cover. And we're two
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different things that launched our company, both from a brand
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perspective and manufacturing and doing business. So it takes both things.
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I think a brand, you've got to continue with your
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point of view. You have to make sure you're really
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saying something about what you are trying to have as
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a look.
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And then you have to back it up with a
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really good business model and manufacturing and quality and all
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of those things. Does that answer the question?
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I think that answers the question perfectly. And I'm still
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stuck on the fact that you not only did you
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have wonderful parental influences of creativity, but you had Joan
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Didion nearby, too.
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Wow. I grew up with her daughter. And I think
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that you forget when you grow up in L.A. at
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that time, it There was no social media. So we
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were all it was everybody was blended. Right. And so
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you were around a lot of creative people. I was
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fortunate to be around some really out of the box thinkers.
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huge risk.
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Honestly, you've done both building a business and building a
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brand so beautifully. And I think that sometimes what happens is,
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you know, I think I like. appreciate that you've been
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so candid and said you were naive because there is
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a problem with knowing too much oh gosh yeah.
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I I don't I think that there were well I
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remember having this idea when I found these cement pots
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in Mexico and I knew that if I bought that
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there were a dollar on the street right and I
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thought okay I can buy them for a dollar and
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did my math and then sell them to the woods,
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which was this amazing florist in Brentwood for $ 12. And
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I thought, holy cow, like that's an amazing margin. I
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got this. And I remember speaking to one of my
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dad's best friends, who's a business guy. And I said,
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I have this idea and blah, blah, blah. And the
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first thing he said to me is ideas are great,
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but the difference between someone with an idea and a
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business is they know how to execute and never forget that.
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And to take the leap, I needed to be naive.
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And I think that nothing wrong with business school and
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all the learnings, but sometimes as an entrepreneur, you have
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to take risk and being naive really helped me take
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the risk.
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So Jamie, a minute ago, you talked about the change,
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not having social media. And I mean, you've witnessed so
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much change in the industry and just life in general
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over the past three decades, the infancy of the internet,
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online shopping, the aforementioned social media. Describe how all of
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these additions to the world have affected your business and
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its growth. And what part of the business do you
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still wish operated in an old school manner? If you do,
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if you feel that way, some people love all the technology.
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I don't, I'm such a, I feel like I should
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have been born 50 years before I was someday.
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I do really embrace technology, but I embrace change that my,
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I am, I am built for change. I love it.
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I love to, to figure out how to take what
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I do and make it relative and relevant, I should say,
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to today. The changes have been phenomenal, right? When we
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first started and we would go to a trade show
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in New York and you would meet a ton of
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people and you would handwrite orders and you would connect
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to each person and then you'd go home or go
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to your hotel room with your salespeople and you would
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add each order up with a calculator and then you
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would put it on some pieces of paper and make
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sure and go, Oh my gosh, look what we did.
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there wasn't as much conflict of how to sell.
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So at the time, the only people you really sold
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to were retail stores. That was it. That's, that's who
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existed when we first started. And then, And the biggest
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conflict was you couldn't sell to two or three stores
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on the same street. And then from there, everything else evolved.
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You know, I missed some of those opportunities and didn't
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see the future in certain ways. And then in other ways,
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I dug in and learned and grew with what was needed.
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the human relationship part. To me, that's the most fun.
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more creativity we can do today. I don't like the
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distraction of technology for any of us. You know, I
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think it, I, I just say, sometimes it just, it
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takes you away from focus, but I do love the creative,
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the access to creativity. I think that that part makes
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it really fun. So, and today, you know, we, we
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evolved with everybody. Um, I remember that Serena and Lily
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were my neighbors at a New York gift show and
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they were younger than me and they had just started,
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but they, um, they were doing bed linens, I think.
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we're going to go direct to the consumer. And I
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was like, Oh, you are. Oh my goodness. Like that's
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a leap. I don't even know. I didn't even think
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I could. Um, And then obviously you watched how they
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grew a brand, right? So today I just welcome young ideas.
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I welcome fresh ideas and approaches so that we are
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meeting our customers where they are today. I think that's
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the most important thing. Are we meeting our customers? And
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it goes also back to change. I love change. I
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think that changes. It's scary for people. They like to
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do what they do and stay in a formula, but
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change is what keeps us fresh.
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Well, I think some of the issue with change today
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is we used to see change, and now I'm making
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myself sound all old and everything.
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When you saw change, it was a slow drip change.
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And just when you learn how to do the next thing,
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that's already dinosaur because something else has moved along.
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Think change is scarier today because 100 years ago, you
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didn't realize what could be done. Now we know what
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can be done. And it's like everything can be done.
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And I think that makes it a little more challenging.
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I think.
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there's no everything in moderation. I mean, you do have
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to really temper and moderate the way that you're thinking.
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I find for what I do is every six months
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I relook and I'm like, okay, are we, are we
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on point? Do we need to shift anything? What does
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it look like? And every couple of years I have
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to really dig in and, We're never going to be
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changing as fast as technology is changing. That's impossible. Right.
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And there's a pendulum like you. Social media is amazing.
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But at the same time, what are all these small,
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wonderful designer events happening all over the country that we
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need to have personal relationships with? And you kind of
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have to continue to go back and forth. I think
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the retail experience is coming back, but it's coming back
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in a way that hopefully retailers are creating true experiences
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and reasons for people to walk into their stores. The
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designer business continues to evolve. And what does that look
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like and how can Jamie Young Company meet those people?
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you can get overwhelmed by so much of it. So
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I guess my job as a leader is to temper
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that and pick one thing and then another. I'm always
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going back and forth on that stuff.
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Jamie, is there a favorite part that you have or
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you think that is most important when it comes to
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maintaining those relationships or meeting the people? You mentioned trade
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shows just a moment ago, but Is there something that
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you love or you think that's more important than something
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else for reasons of engagement with people?
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I think the one-on-one engagement is the best thing I
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could do. It's probably my– the thing that I'm probably
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the best at is that I just love people and
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the connections to people. I love to hear about their lives,
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both personal and their businesses, and what works. and what doesn't.
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And that to me is the most important thing I
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probably have to offer as the president of this company
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is to listen, is to be curious. And you do
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that the most when you're engaging one-on-one for me.
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Well, and you really, you get a different perspective too
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when you're talking directly to the designer and how they're,
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what they're hearing and seeing in the marketplace too.
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Yeah, you do. You got to be open. I always
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think about, I know what I know, but I'm pretty
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clear that I also know what I don't know. You know, like,
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and I try to do that with everybody in the team. Like,
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don't be afraid of not knowing. Don't be afraid of
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making a mistake. Don't be afraid of being like, Wow,
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that is such a cool thing to do.
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How can we.
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Incorporate that in Jamie Young? I think that's it. After
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30 years, 29 years, you have to keep learning. And
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I do feel good about that for myself. You know,
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where I am in my career is that I... I
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still have a lot of enthusiasm about where we're going
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and new creatives and all that stuff. And it's still
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so important.
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Well, Jamie, one of the big things about what you
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do is editing and putting a collection together and all
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your merchandise. Your collections have just such fun novelty pieces
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that are really unique, unique textures. How do you decide
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which of your ideas are worth executing?
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We have a pretty good process that we follow. And
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it's not me alone, for sure. You know, we have
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a great team that we all work together. We have
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creative and marketing and our director of product development and
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myself looking at product and sales coming in. But it
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does start with my gut and our team's gut on
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what's beautiful and what speaks to the DNA of Jamie Young.
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You know, what's the point of view? And then from there,
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we're realistic, right? we look at data, we look at
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what sells, we look at what doesn't sell, we look
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at what's wow, that maybe we don't need to sell
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as much of, but it certainly rounds out what we're
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trying to do. So it's a combination of things, but
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we don't go in with our eyes closed. It's not
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just a gut, oh, I love this. Now, years and
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years ago, it was more of that, right? When it
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was simpler and we're smaller. But today, we do have
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to look at data. We have to look at what
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seems to work. We know that for whatever reasons, a
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white lamp sells better than anything else. And actually, so
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does a blue. So that's important to us. Those are
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some of our best things. We know garden stools. We
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sell a ton of garden stools. And they're garden stools
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that can go in a shower, they can go as
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a side table, or they can go outside. But What
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makes them work for Jamie Young? So we have some
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core data that we'd like to follow. And then we
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always need to have that wild, playful, interesting, unique thing
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that is truly about the art.
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Jamie, I have to pop in for just a second
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because I featured a stool that you guys produced with
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baseball stitching around its edges. And to prepare for this,
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I went back in to see if you still sold that.
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And you do.
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We do. Our leather ottomans are... are still some of
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our top selling items. So I love so much that
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we're not in the fashion business because things last. You
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can buy something or you can design something and it
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can be, it's 15 years that it's been in the line.
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We've added to it. We've, we've, we have all different
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leathers and hides in it, but people, it's still, it
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still looks current and new and fresh in someone's space. It's, Um,
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the quality is fantastic, but yes, we continue to do
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that stuff. And that's part of our DNA. So, yeah, we,
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we have a lot of skews that still work, you know,
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and we look at that all the time, even if
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it's something that I'm sick of that I don't want
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to see anymore. If it's selling, that means it's resonating
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and I'm not going to, you know, cut my nose
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to spite my face as they say, you know, yeah,
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good design and business. I think, um, For your audience
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and for designers out there and people, when you start
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a business, you're doing it for the love of the
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art most of the time, right? I never went into
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this business thinking I was going to be an international
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logistics expert. But unfortunately, or fortunately, whatever you want to
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look at, I now have to be an international logistics
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import export expert or else I can't do my business.
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I need to understand who's making what where and what's
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being charged in tariffs and problems and challenges to do
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a good job. And we want to make money. You know,
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we are in business to stay in business. So I
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got to look at the whole thing.
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Well, Jamie, let's talk about lighting. It's a great category
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of your brands. You have such beautiful light fixtures. And
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Krista and I are big fans of lighting in general
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and the impact that it can do in the space.
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And I think what's so spectacular about lighting is it's
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a category that homeowners can have fun with, even if
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they're a little more conservative on their designs. And, you know,
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the good news is that lighting is kind of out
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of the way. So as long as your scale is correct,
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you know, you can really choose whatever style you want.
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But the one thing that comes along with that, too,
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are quality difference. What factors should clients look for when
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selecting lighting to ensure quality? Is it all about materials?
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No. Yes, materials are important. Obviously, we've been designing lighting
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using unique materials from around the world. That's been part
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of what we've done since we started. So materials make
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it interesting visually. Scale, critical. Quality, it's the chain, the socket,
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the metal, the finial, the weight of the product. Does
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it lie straight? Does it sit straight? when you're picking vendors,
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do they have enough diversity to find different things? So
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you're not just buying one piece from one vendor and
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hopefully you're, you're really getting in a relationship with that vendor. So,
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so that you can pick their chandeliers, there's portables, table lamps,
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there's floor lamps, there's wall sconces, you know, Jamie Young
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Company has built all of those categories and we continue
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to expand the sort of breadth of what we do. We, we,
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We obviously can't compete with some of the very large
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lighting people out there, but we don't try to. Come
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to us and you're going to get that traditional look,
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our take on it. You're going to get our coastal look.
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You're going to get, we're going to give you something
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great for the mountains, something great for the city or
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the desert, great materials, and it's going to show up
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not broken. It's going to show up. um, packaged really well.
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We're in stock. So we get to ship to you
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in 48 hours. Like we're, we're probably 90% in stock
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for everything that we offer. So these would be things
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that you would want to look at with a vendor are,
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and is the vendor easy to work with? Um, do
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they stand behind their product? Do they have all the
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correct dims and drawings so that when, when we're being specced, it's,
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you know, we're making sure that we're helping the designer
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to get their lighting correct in this space.
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Jamie, we're going to pivot now to vintage and antiques,
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which is not what you do. However, we know that
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buying vintage and antiques has skyrocketed in popularity, especially among
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the younger generation that is very environmentally aware. And frankly,
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they're more aware of consumption too. They really demand the
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story that's behind the product. So how do antiques and
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vintage objects play into what you do? And I'm guessing
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that as you're researching, as you're seeing what's out on
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the market, that you're paying attention to what other people
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are doing too, because your merchandise has to coexist among that.
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So what does that look like for you and your team?
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Well, I am personally a collector of antiques. I'm personally
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a collector of mixing, of The way that I live,
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the way that I design my own homes, it's all
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about mixing it up. And so I think that that's
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how people live. And the reality is that most people
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have their grandmother's floor lamp or side table with something
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fresh and new on it. So we believe in that
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eclectic mix and to dig into it. As far as
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inspiration goes, of course, you're always looking what's old is
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new again and what's the fresh take on it. We're
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also always looking at using natural materials as much as possible.
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We don't do huge introductions where it's 300, 400, 500
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new SKUs. We're not about that. We just did 54
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pieces as new introductions for High Point this coming October.
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And we have another– introduction next April. But we're very
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mindful of more is not more. You know, there's sort
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of a beautiful balance in product, in materials, and who's
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making the material, who's making the product to be cognizant
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of the consumer today. And also in our marketplaces. where
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I am always pushing like mix it up, take the
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old with the new because that keeps things fresh.
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Also something else that I think influences perhaps more than
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anything in the design industry is travel. And I know
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that you've done a lot of it. So I Talk
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to us about what travel looks like. Again, Megan and
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I talk about global influences all the time, just travel
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in general. So talk about what that's done for your business,
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how it informs design, and how it keeps your eyes fresh.
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Yeah. Well, travel's been probably the first thing and reason
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we started this company. Honestly, it was like we are,
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as my husband, an artist, and me, an entrepreneur and
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creative person. we started in India 27 years ago and
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that was when cows were walking through the airport. So
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it not, not even an exaggeration. It was just literally
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cows walking through the airport and we've, it's been part
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of our passion to grow a company is the travel
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part of it. Um, and what each country does, it's different.
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And it's not just about, um, manufacturing mass produced product.
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It's really about materials. And so we continue to do that.
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00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:07.849
We've always, our tagline has been a well-traveled home for years.
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Now people are talking about it a lot more and
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kind of leaning into it, but that's been our motto
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00:31:14.789 --> 00:31:17.829
for so long is, and as I said, we started
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00:31:17.890 --> 00:31:21.420
in India and have just a love affair with India
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and that we've had that for so long and so
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00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:28.319
many friends there and really understand the factories and their capabilities.
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00:31:28.420 --> 00:31:32.099
In fact, last year we went back to a factory
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we hadn't seen in a little while and they were so,
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and the man, the father who ran the factory, his
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00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:41.839
son was now running the factory. The father was there
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and the son. And I forgot that the son is
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my son's age. And 15 years ago we took our
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sons or gosh, I'm almost 18 years ago to this
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00:31:57.609 --> 00:32:00.710
factory and he, they played with this little, with this
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00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:05.509
son in, in the backyard of the factory. And they
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00:32:05.549 --> 00:32:10.809
had a photo of, of my sons and their son
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00:32:11.210 --> 00:32:15.359
in the front hall of their factory. And I was like, Oh, that,
537
00:32:15.430 --> 00:32:19.960
you know, there's something so emotional about you take all
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00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.470
the business stuff away, the relationships you've built and, And here,
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00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:29.329
this young man is now running that company. It just,
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it means something. You know, we work with people all
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over the world, and they're just like us, trying to
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make a living in small factories and family run. And
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what is the specialty in that region that can do
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something great? You know, so... all these years I really
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think I've learned so much about where to go for what,
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what makes it, what's great. And I'm always constantly inspired.
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We're in Indonesia and the Philippines and Vietnam and China
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00:32:57.369 --> 00:33:03.750
and India and exploring new materials, old materials and how
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they look new. So I have such, such loving connection
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to the global world of design. Um, And I'm always
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blown away by it. And even if I'm not manufacturing
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00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.980
something in a certain country, I'm blown away by design
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00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:23.859
and what it does for us. And whether we're in
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Portugal or we, as I said, we were in Bhutan
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in a tiny little country or anywhere else, we get
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inspired by what these creators are doing.
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00:33:36.619 --> 00:33:41.339
Well, it is interesting because it's really art that in
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all variations of art, that connects us all just to
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each other in present day and throughout history too. When
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you look at hieroglyphics, when you look at quilts that
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told a story, everything that is created, I think is
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beyond just its beauty. It's to say something about a
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moment in time or, and, and so, you know, I
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love that you have gotten so much out of travel.
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I think every, anybody who travels does because it's more about,
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you know, I think when we use the word travel, we,
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00:34:13.190 --> 00:34:16.909
equate that to vacation. And it's always, it's a learning
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experience of connecting with people and regions and just enjoying
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the beauty that exists all throughout the world, not.
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Just where you are. Yeah. And history. My husband is
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a huge history nut. I don't know what else to
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call him because he has such a deep knowledge of
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the history of the world and design and creativity. And
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we can go somewhere and you get inspired by the
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00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.420
craziest things, the smallest things that have so much history
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00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:54.039
and why and how. There's a new museum in Los Angeles,
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the Guessin Museum that just opened in LA County Museum area.
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And it is, I tell anybody who comes to Los
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Angeles needs to spend a day there. It's spiritual. It's
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00:35:04.050 --> 00:35:08.800
insane how incredible it is. And they take the history
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from all over the world and of water jugs, for example,
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and what the Korean water jug looked like in the 1800s,
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and what the Spanish water jug looked like, and what
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the French water jug looked like, and the ceramics that
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00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:30.000
were produced all with a purpose. They needed water. But
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in today's design world, we take those things and we say, wow,
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that's just the most perfect accessory. And can we go
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to Korea to produce it? Or do we go to
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China because they do incredible ceramics? But the history of
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00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:48.699
why things were made and then how you incorporate that
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is what really is exciting.
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00:35:52.030 --> 00:35:55.469
Jamie, within the design industry, I think it's a dream
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of so many people, many designers especially, to build their
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own line of products. And you talked about being a
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00:36:03.190 --> 00:36:06.570
risk taker earlier and how sometimes it's better to be
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a little naive. But the one challenge can really be
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00:36:10.610 --> 00:36:16.190
that inventory. So what are a few key common points
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that people should know about before pursuing a business that's
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specifically a business that carries inventory?
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That is something that you need to understand takes cash.
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It really does take an enormous amount of money, great
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banking experience and communication and relationships, and a strong operational
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ability to know when to do your orders, your cash flow,
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00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.260
your inventory flow. Those things are so important. And today,
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they're more important than ever because of the challenges we
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face globally in bringing things in. You know, I would
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love to produce everything in the U.S., and it's impossible
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for what we do. I would do anything to find
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local ceramicists and local glassblowers, but then I wouldn't be
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able to sell it. And I think that inventory flow,
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00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.739
it's its own art. So I do think that you
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need to look at that carefully, and maybe you partner.
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If you have great design ideas, but you don't have
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an operational background or– maybe the financial ability to do that,
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then go partner with someone because somebody needs great design.
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Not everybody has great design and the ability to finance it.
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But that is a real thing because customers, the one
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thing that did change over the years is our friends
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00:37:44.530 --> 00:37:47.519
at Amazon all of a sudden made everybody want everything tomorrow.
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And how do you address that? And if you can't,
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You don't have the same ability to grow your business.
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That's just a real thing.
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Well, and the ability to adapt. And it sounds like
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you have done that over the years if you've been
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00:38:04.050 --> 00:38:07.469
in business for almost 30 years. That's quite an accomplishment.
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00:38:08.010 --> 00:38:10.159
Tell us what's next for Jamie Young.
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00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:13.659
So Jamie Young is I like to feel like we
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are a legacy brand. that Kristen knows forever, but we're
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also a startup. I like the thought process of what
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00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:27.090
a startup looks like. And we are always reinventing. And
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I think that's what's keeping us relevant. We have launched
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furniture and we have a lot more to come in
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00:38:34.619 --> 00:38:39.039
the furniture arena where we're doing incredible chairs and seating
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00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:45.159
and case goods and building on those two categories. We're
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00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.840
also expanding our chandeliers, expanding our lighting. So all of
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our categories we're touching, we're expanding more of, and we're
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going to be rolling out more and more. We're speaking
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to the interior designer that's looking for great quality inventory
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that we can ship quickly and a great partner like vendor.
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When I say what's next, it's always about digging into
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continuing to be better and better at part at, customer
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service at all the stuff that makes a designer's life easier.
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So we keep doing that, but the furniture I'm thrilled with,
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00:39:22.579 --> 00:39:25.820
we're just, we've been working on it. So, oh my gosh. And,
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00:39:26.170 --> 00:39:30.989
we just launched 54 pieces for this market. And we
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00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:33.769
have about 100 in next April. And a lot of
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it is great, real furniture.
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00:39:35.510 --> 00:39:36.750
That's exciting. Can't wait to see it.
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00:39:36.750 --> 00:39:37.840
Yeah, we're excited.
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00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:40.949
Well, Jamie, we like to end each episode with the
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same two questions as well. Tell us about the beach
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that keeps you going.
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00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:48.579
And this is one that keeps me going in that
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it helps me with my downtime and it helps me
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relax and get my mind clear. And it's romance novels.
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I find that sitting and reading a really– well, it
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has to be well-written. I'm not so good at the
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super silly ones, but I do love a great romance novel.
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And I find that it's been– forever I read– Help
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self-help books. I still do a little and business books
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forever and ever. And one day someone said to me,
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do you what do you do you ever just read
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for fun anymore? And I was like, I think I
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forgot that. So I picked up a romance novel and
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now I'm just it's been four years or five years
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and I'm completely hooked. And it's the best ability to
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just shut down.
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It's like the historical ones or are they modern day?
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I do all of them. there's some that I do
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that are like, um, spy novels. Like my husband will
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read a spy novel and I'll read a spy novel.
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And I'm like, I think mine's much more fun. You
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should try mine. And he's like, Oh my gosh, why
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aren't they writing my spy novels like this? Like you go,
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you go to the bedroom and the door shuts and
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his ends and mine are like, no, we get to
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go in the bedroom and then the spy novel. So
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I think that there is something about that that makes, um,
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You know, I love to have fun. I love to
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not be taking things too seriously because life is already
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pretty challenging, right? We all have our challenges. So this
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is one of those things that keeps me light and
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having fun.
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What a great beat. And finally, what does your perfect
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boulevard look like?
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That's changed over the years. I would say it used
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to be much more about like walking down the street
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in Manhattan and all of the exciting things. buzz of
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00:41:40.059 --> 00:41:42.980
so many different things happening at once. And today, my
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boulevard is probably much more about an open road, whether
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it's at the beach or the mountains or the desert.
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And it's much more serene and peaceful. And that probably
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speaks to the idea that there's so much going on
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in my brain that just like the romance novels, I
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just need a clear, clean palette to visualize. So I
696
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spent a lot of time in Arizona, out in the desert,
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in the mountains, and at the beach. And they equally
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do something very peaceful for my brain.
699
00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:19.610
Well, Jamie, it has been such a joy to speak
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with you and talk about your business and the creativity
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behind it. And just keep doing the same thing. We're
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excited to see what you unveil in High Point.
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Megan and I are.
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privileged in the fact that we get to attend High
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Point in this business. And we're just really excited to
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see what you come up with next.
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So thank you. Thank you guys so much. I hope
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this was kind of a good fun for your listeners
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to hear about. I know you have all kinds of
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people on your platform, but coming from a manufacturer designer
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is different than other approaches. So I really enjoyed it.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you for listening to Boulevard Beach. If you enjoyed
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