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00:00:21.571Hey guys, welcome to the channel, welcome to another episode of Mark and Mitch Make a Scientology Film.
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00:00:47.204Hey guys, afternoon, mitch, afternoon, we've got a good film we're going to go over today, and when we originally talked about doing this film as the next one, I really couldn't think of any good stories about the film, because I just remembered that we it was really three actors who do we have?
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00:00:52.310The film we're talking about today is TR12, the solo auditor.
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00:00:57.591And actually, why don't you set this one up, mitch?
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00:01:05.606I think the reason we did this one early on was because I think Dave Miscavige wanted this specific film.
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00:01:08.566Yeah, I mean traditionally.
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00:01:11.251For years the solo course has been a bottleneck.
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00:01:13.266Just the idea of solo auditing has been a bottleneck.
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00:01:18.710In Scientology it goes all the way back to when Hubbard first dreamed up clear on an emitter.
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00:01:34.463The only problem was, in order to become clear in Scientology back in the 60s, you had to travel to St Hill, england, and you had to take a course called the St Hill Special Briefing Course, which that course has been canceled by Dave Miscavige For God knows how long.
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00:01:35.727You can no longer do it.
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00:01:37.644But you had to become.
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00:01:40.570You had to train to be a Class 6 auditor before you could solo audit.
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00:01:44.149It was a bottleneck.
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00:01:45.525Nobody was going up the bridge.
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00:01:58.608So, hubbard, he came up with this course and then he basically called the solo auditor's course where he said I've taken all of the best stuff from Class 6 and I've put it in one course and I can train you to do this.
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00:02:00.486And this is the big breakthrough.
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00:02:03.046He called these things an undercut.
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00:02:13.360When any of his stuff started just going to shit and like nobody was doing it and it wasn't working, he'd come back and say I did some research and I have an undercut.
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00:02:18.269And there was always the next undercut, and solo auditing was a big undercut, right, mark?
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00:02:32.283Well, to make sure people are up to speed, when you first get into Scientology and you have all these ingrams that you need to resolve, you can do that with Dianetics and it's just two people talking.
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00:02:44.758But then, as you get into Scientology, the addition of an E-meter comes into play and then someone asks you questions and they look at the E-meter and can tell.
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00:02:46.061They kind of guide you.
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00:02:50.572The E-meter is like a dividing rod in Scientology counseling.
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00:02:53.467It kind of tells you where to go and where not to go.
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00:03:14.812And solo auditing is when now, instead of somebody asking you the questions and looking on the E-meter, you're asking yourself the questions in your mind and then you're answering the questions in your mind and you're looking at the E-meter to see if you're in the right area, and that's pretty much a good act.
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00:03:17.727I've never done any of these things in my life.
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00:03:18.308No, that's totally fine.
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00:03:25.390You're probably in a better position to explain it because you never did it, because once you, do it you're so lost in the confusion of body thaitins and all this stuff.
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00:03:34.133Yeah, no, that's absolutely right, and it's a great part of the con, because it's really expensive and time consuming to audit people.
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00:03:40.308So Hubbard said well, you know what Auditing at this level is so fast that another person can't do it with you.
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00:03:42.212It's just a con.
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00:03:53.950Everybody's like whoa right and so it's like it's a great way to up your income is rather than us having to dedicate auditors to auditing people, we'll just have them audit themselves, right yeah?
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00:04:08.485And you know what I always thought was one of the things that I always thought after I left was it's too hard to have two people have so much cognitive dissonance about the same stuff at the same time.
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00:04:14.355It makes it more convenient if you are just in on this with yourself.
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00:04:17.146Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you had another person in this.
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00:04:20.300One of them is going to be like dude, can you believe we're doing this right now?
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00:04:22.305Yeah, it seems like a bunch of nonsense.
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00:04:23.007You're right.
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00:04:27.249You're right because nobody's better at suckering you into something than you.
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00:04:29.723Exactly that's what I realized.
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00:04:38.086I was like, really you could only do this by yourself, because otherwise somebody would talk you out of it.
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00:04:40.798Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
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00:04:45.230So this film is about solo auditing.
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00:04:52.252Just to talk a little about the course that the film teaches you what's on the course?
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00:04:55.288There's basically two things you're going to learn on this course.
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00:05:11.466You're going to learn how to use the e-meter so that you can perform the solo auditing, and you're going to learn how to clairvoyantly address what you will become known to you as your body thains.
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00:05:16.829This is where you learn my dog is tangled up in my mic cord, sorry.
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00:05:25.790This is where you learn to telepathically communicate to your body things, and you'll do this mostly by screaming at astros.
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00:05:37.345This is a course where you do a lot of yelling at astros big, heavy glass astros, telling them to stand up, thanking them for standing up, telling them to sit down and so forth, and then you'll do a lot of e-meter drills.
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00:05:39.846There's a couple of these e-meter drills.
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00:05:41.567I think it's 22 and 24.
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00:05:43.661I don't remember their date.
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00:05:45.687You remember this.
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00:05:57.728Yeah, so you are sitting with your e-meter and then someone is holding the cans that are connected to the e-meter and they're supposed to think of a date and this date.
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00:05:58.971They write it on a piece of paper.
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00:05:59.512Yeah.
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00:06:01.605It's a trick like a parlor game.
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00:06:03.023Yes, they have to.
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00:06:05.209They basically have to write.
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00:06:10.752It could be 5,782 million years ago and to the day.
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00:06:12.209No to the second.
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00:06:14.687You eventually have to do it to the second, eventually.
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00:06:18.689And then the person on the e-meter has to say is it earlier?
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00:06:26.529earlier than 10 trillion, and then the e-meter is supposed to guide them to the right date.
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00:06:38.170The other person that's sitting in the chair just sits there, and I remember that students would be on this drill for months and months.
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00:06:40.646Oh, it's enough to make you want to unalive yourself.
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00:06:51.593A good number of people finish it at what's called qual, in other words, they finish it under the technical supervision of the most technical people in the organization.
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00:07:13.406It's absolutely crazy, and there is a pathway through doing it successfully, and that pathway leads through this weird kind of biofeedback where the other person is figuring out your tells because everybody has tells yes, probably this e-meter drill probably makes you into a better poker player.
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00:07:13.988I don't know.
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00:07:21.764I think all Scientology things make you into a better poker player because you become a robot version of yourself.
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00:07:22.987That doesn't show emotion.
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00:07:23.930Yeah.
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00:07:41.814If you really wanted to be able to not show emotions, if you just did what they call the Scientology TRs up, I think, what up to like 10 or 8 or whatever it is when you just the beginning ones 0-4.
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00:07:43.218Yeah, just up to 4.
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00:07:47.910If you can get through those, you could be an amazing poker player.
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00:07:56.850Yeah, and it's funny that you mentioned that, because I know a Scientologist who happens to be an OT, who has played professional poker and won a lot of money.
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00:08:00.468Wow, yeah, I absolutely know what.
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00:08:05.011But you still have to be smart and know what hands to play, and all that.
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00:08:20.310But as far as a poker face goes, this can take care of that Right as far as controlling your physicality, your emotions, all those things that apparently are important in poker, yeah, but, mark, come on, there's a lot of smart people in Scientology.
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00:08:24.571Sure, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but yes, there are.
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00:08:26.545Yeah, no to me it does.
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00:08:27.208It actually does.
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00:08:29.206Some people are just too stupid to join a cult.
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00:08:33.163Hold on, I didn't mean that Before you come after me.
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00:08:35.269I did not mean that.
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00:08:44.446But no, a lot of people are attracted because they really are looking for an alternative, counter-cultural kind of experience.
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00:08:46.485They're interested in the spiritual.
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00:08:55.071These are some very clever high demand groups out there that will sucker you in.
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00:08:58.056Yeah, anyway, that's not what we're here to talk about.
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00:09:00.346We're here to talk about the film TR-12.
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00:09:00.947That's right.
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00:09:06.692So this film takes you through how to.
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00:09:19.067There's certain conventions and methods that Hubbard wanted solo auditors on how they held the cans and how they set up the session to do it with themselves and not another person.
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00:09:29.092And I think in this one, so in this film, Jack Armstrong is our main character in this film.
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00:09:33.528And then we had Kelly Daniels Was it Kelly Daniels?
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00:09:34.610Well, we had Kelly Daniels.
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00:09:37.796Well, it was shot twice, once with Katie.
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00:09:40.825Mitchell yeah, Katie Mitchell, and I don't remember who the guy was.
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00:09:42.361Do you remember God?
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00:09:42.864I thought it was.
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00:09:46.570Rob, I thought it was like Bobby Lyons, or it was a young guy.
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00:09:47.602I had to be a young guy.
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00:09:49.389I can't remember.
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00:09:51.166I remember shooting it twice.
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00:10:06.168And I think that might have been the thing that confused me is because I think when we did the location shoots, those were stock shots in the first version and so in the second version we actually needed to shoot a plane.
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00:10:07.991And we'll get to that.
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00:10:09.323But yeah, just let me.
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00:10:13.445Just let me real quick interject the positioning with Hubbard.
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00:10:18.985Position solo auditing would be coming, getting your solo pilots license.
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00:10:27.493Yes, it was a marketing gimmick, and so when you did the solo course, you got these cute little wings like this in flight.
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00:10:29.044It was like a little 10.
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00:10:29.969Yeah, a little 10.
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00:10:32.148Yeah, a little thing you could wear.
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00:10:37.648You got your wings like a Boy Scout pin or something, and then those were like you, solo wings.
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00:10:45.087So the film that we did, we didn't want stock shot Senate, so we went in a range to shoot.
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00:10:46.201It's supposed to be.
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00:10:53.902It opens with a guy taken off on an airport, a little plane we used to.
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00:10:54.765What the hell was that plane?
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00:10:58.390It's a type of it's a type of aerobatic plane.
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00:11:05.227I'll think of it as very famous, but Tom Cruise coincidentally has one of these planes and flies it, but I didn't see him showing up to help us.
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00:11:07.206So not at all.
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00:11:11.998No, we were and we needed help on the aerial part of this Goodness?
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00:11:13.283yes, it was a disaster.
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00:11:16.649Yeah, we did, we did.
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00:11:18.547Well, we'll just, we'll just say what we did.
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00:11:22.150So the film needs to show it's a biplane.
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00:11:25.950This, this aerobatic plane was it was a biplane, right.
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00:11:32.432Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little aerobatic as a stumpy little plane that's just insanely nimble.
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00:11:37.131Yeah, they can stall out and fall and then get re, you know re, you know re.
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00:11:39.187Yeah, it's really well.
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00:11:54.254There's only like five or six of these planes anywhere near where we were in California, and the closest one that we could find at the time was going to be in Sedona, arizona.
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00:11:57.068Ok, no, hold on, hold on Mark, hold on Mark.
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00:11:58.105Sometimes we don't remember.
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00:11:59.485No, we went to Sedona.
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00:12:00.764I wanted to go to Sedona.
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00:12:05.019Yeah, I specifically said I had worked in Sedona.
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00:12:14.225I did some commercials of Porsche, yeah, and I done these on the Sedona airport in Arizona, one of the most beautiful places in America.
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00:12:27.201They have a Mesa, you know, one of these things like you know, like close encounters, and that's the airport runway is on that Mesa, and so you park a car on there and fly around it, and so I went.
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00:12:28.385I want to go to Sedona.
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00:12:29.700So it marks right it.
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00:12:37.791We did have to find the aerobatic plane that was near there, but fortunately there's a lot of flying out of Sedona airport.
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00:12:40.428So you know, there's a lot of rich guys that have aerobatic planes.
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00:12:49.613We were able to find a stunt pilot to do it, but Arizona could be a rather tricky place to shoot at certain times of year, right, mark?
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00:12:52.125Well, so this is so.
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00:12:52.706I didn't.
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00:12:55.673I don't remember the part about you saying we needed to shoot there.
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00:12:57.407I just knew it's in Sedona.
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00:12:59.908The planes go in there, we're going there, right.
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00:13:03.557I want to say it's about six to eight hours from Gilman.
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00:13:05.024Hot Springs 700 miles.
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00:13:06.383Oh, ok good.
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00:13:07.301Yeah.
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00:13:08.124I still remember.
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00:13:20.129Anyway, whichever it is Sedona is, the weather is very hit or miss and you can't it doesn't.
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00:13:31.111It's not like one of these places where the people that predict the weather for Sedona give too much care about if it's gonna be more rain or more clouds or more sun.
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00:13:35.070It's just partly cloudy or partly sunny, and that's usually what it is.
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00:13:47.509Whenever we would do a location shoot, my job was the shoot crew chief, but there was another department there was a few departments underneath the shoot crew chief that we didn't have people in.
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00:14:00.874One of those was a grip department, and so if something needed to be transported or something needed to be moved from one place to another, technically that kind of came in under the grip department.
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00:14:04.831But since we didn't have anybody in the grip department, I was that job from above.
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00:14:09.576So getting a plane to the shoot was kind of a grip thing.
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00:14:24.153But the plane was really a prop, so the props guy was in charge of the plane and the logistics guy was working with the props department to get this plane to this place and somehow or another they could only get it there.
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00:14:38.272I wanna say it was for an afternoon, Like it was gonna be there and we had it for an afternoon And- yeah, I'm sure, between flying time and fuel and yeah, and how much, yeah it was and there were a lot of moving parts.
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00:14:42.614We were shooting at a place that we didn't know any of the people, so it was.
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00:14:54.171Somebody called the airport and said, hey, we wanna do a shoot there this afternoon, and they're like sure I guess, and like, give us a thousand bucks and you can do whatever you want and it's not a real busy airport also.
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00:14:58.154Yeah, and so we didn't have a lot of money.
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00:15:08.908Well, almost all the money that was spent on this was spent on the plane and the location and me and well I'm just kidding, I'm sorry, but you were already paid.
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00:15:09.952I think, for the film.
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00:15:10.628So it wasn't.
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00:15:12.990We were Tasteless joke, sorry.
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00:15:25.011Either way, when we get a budget like this and we're gonna travel to Sedona, arizona, there's no hotels, there's no, you know, there's gas money and maybe a little bit of food money.
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00:15:27.385That's it, anyway.
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00:15:30.869So when we get to Sedona, we travel to Sedona, we have to get up, you know.
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00:15:43.428We have to leave it like, let's just say, midnight to get there by the morning, so that when we get there we can shoot, we can set up and we can shoot with the plane or whatever and I think we were gonna do.
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00:15:57.995There's some ground shots where the plane is taking off and the plane is landing, and then the plane needs to do some aerobatics and we need to get some of those shots it looks like it needed, like it was spinning out of control.
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00:16:02.791There was one shot where we were looking way up at it and it's like, ah, you know it's gonna crash.
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00:16:03.953Yeah.
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00:16:06.009And it rained.
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00:16:07.835Well, hold on a second.
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00:16:17.395Not only did it rain, there's a thing in Arizona called monsoon season, and we picked monsoon season to shoot this thing.
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00:16:19.692So if you wanna know why nobody was at the airport?
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00:16:33.030because monsoon season in Arizona is a serious business, and so when it's raining guys with planes that are aerobatic planes that they don't wanna get messed up, they don't like to fly like that.
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00:17:00.691They're like yeah, no, I'm not flying in the rain and I'm also not gonna do a bunch of tricks in the rain, and so I can't remember exactly how it went down, but I just remember we shot a bunch of footage that was pretty much useless because it was raining or it looked like it was gonna rain and the way the shot is described by Elrin Hubbard is that there's just a plane in the sky.
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00:17:04.190It doesn't say there's a plane in the sky with rain clouds all around.
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00:17:10.493Yeah, one would assume it needs to be a glorious, spectacular, sun-drenched shot?
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00:17:12.590Yes, you would assume that.
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00:17:23.553But here we are and there's a plane, we got the plane, we got the location, but we ain't got the weather and there's nothing you can do about the weather.
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00:17:34.056But in the sea organization and working for Golden Air Productions and working for David and the scavenge, you can't blame that you didn't get the shot on the weather.
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00:17:37.013There's no such thing as an act of God in Scientology.
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00:17:40.886And they actually have a policy called the why is God so like?
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00:17:45.736If you say, oh, why didn't you build the driveway?
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00:17:47.491Why didn't you pour the concrete for the driveway?
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00:17:48.288Well, it was raining.
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00:17:49.712We can't pour concrete in the rain.
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00:17:50.909The why is God?
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00:17:56.113You can't say that you didn't do it because of something that's not under your control.
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00:18:01.791That's unacceptable, Anyway, so we did as much as we could.
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00:18:06.579I think we ended up staying the night, which was a huge flap.
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00:18:13.354That we stayed in yeah, like a Motel 6, kind of cheapest place we could find and we didn't have enough money to get a hotel.
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00:18:19.833So I think what we ended up doing was there were two females two were I think there was two females on the shoot.
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00:18:25.358There was Lisa Schroer and she was the director's assistant.
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00:18:26.509She was Mitch's assistant.
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00:18:28.049Yeah, it's not assistant director.
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00:18:28.932Very different thing.
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00:18:33.003Yes, director's assistant, she was like get his, we go get shipments all the time.
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00:18:33.909Get me tacos.
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00:18:34.590That's sweet.
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00:18:39.795And then there was a girl named Sadie, Sadie Johansson.
00:18:39.795 -->
00:18:42.070Sadie was the assistant cameraman.
00:18:42.392 -->
00:18:42.653Right.
00:18:43.305 -->
00:18:58.848And so because there were two females and there was probably I want to say there was probably four or five males, and we all went there in a 15 passenger van with a seat or two taken out of the back and that's where all the film equipment, we would put all the film equipment Right and we may have.
00:18:58.848 -->
00:19:05.730Now I don't think we had the camera truck, I think we just had a 15 passenger van, just because we didn't have enough money for gas for two vehicles.
00:19:05.750 -->
00:19:08.392Yeah, right, yeah by the way, I just want to interject.
00:19:08.392 -->
00:19:15.553I looked it up on my phone and so from the Golden Era golf course, which is next door to the GOLD, to the Sedona Airport.
00:19:16.005 -->
00:19:18.288It's 600 miles 636,.
00:19:18.348 -->
00:19:27.906You were right, Mark 636 minutes, 394 miles so there you go, it's all good, I'm not going to put it on there, but just a reason.
00:19:27.906 -->
00:19:35.731I bring that up not just to underscore the fact that Mark is always right about these kind of things, because he is, because his memory is like amazing.
00:19:35.731 -->
00:19:45.093But so whatever you're hearing about this day, keep in mind, this day included all of that time driving and the crew was expected to drive back the same day.
00:19:46.449 -->
00:19:47.854So that's a long day.
00:19:47.854 -->
00:19:51.796Yeah, that's exactly how it was always scheduled.
00:19:51.796 -->
00:19:55.415Because you can't say, well, we need to go there the day before.
00:19:55.415 -->
00:19:57.010Well, why do you have to go there the day before?
00:19:57.010 -->
00:19:59.872Well, because we need to sleep when are you going to sleep?
00:19:59.892 -->
00:20:00.674We need to shut up.
00:20:01.105 -->
00:20:01.266Yeah.
00:20:01.266 -->
00:20:02.672Or they would say where are you going to sleep?
00:20:02.672 -->
00:20:04.090You say we're going to sleep in a hotel.
00:20:04.090 -->
00:20:05.190Well, there's no money for a hotel.
00:20:05.190 -->
00:20:06.209Okay, we'll sleep in the van.
00:20:06.209 -->
00:20:09.513Okay, well, the crew can sleep on the van on the way there.
00:20:09.513 -->
00:20:12.212And then I'd be like yeah, but then I have to drive.
00:20:12.212 -->
00:20:16.833Okay, well, then you'll be the one, you'll be the only one, who doesn't get to sleep.
00:20:16.833 -->
00:20:20.369And it'll be like okay, well, you know, we have to drive back too.
00:20:20.369 -->
00:20:25.332And it'll be like well, then you'll be the only one who doesn't sleep on the way back when you drive back.
00:20:25.724 -->
00:20:30.569So it's like that's usually the deal that I got Because I was the only one who could sleep.
00:20:30.569 -->
00:20:34.394No, I was the only one who could drive without having slept.
00:20:34.394 -->
00:20:37.589But even that I had my limits.
00:20:37.589 -->
00:20:39.868But so we drove there.
00:20:39.868 -->
00:20:41.714It rained all day long.
00:20:41.714 -->
00:20:46.595We shot a bunch of shots because we're going to shoot some shots, no matter what.
00:20:46.595 -->
00:20:49.550We're going to shoot some shots, whether they're usable or not.
00:20:49.550 -->
00:20:52.790If we don't even shoot the shots, then it's like you guys didn't even try.
00:20:52.790 -->
00:21:03.476Even if we shoot the shots, they're going to be like these shots suck, it's raining and you're like, well, yeah, but if I wouldn't have shot the shots, you'd say I suck because I didn't even shoot the shots.
00:21:03.476 -->
00:21:13.355I think in the end I want to say that we might have used a shot to take off or a landing shot.
00:21:14.144 -->
00:21:33.972What I remember was the one that we used was of course it figures it's the one of it spiraling out of control, that one, because that was away from the airport and that was supposed to be like a dangerous shot, like you're a solo editor and you're in trouble, cut to plane spiraling out of the sky.
00:21:33.972 -->
00:21:36.692So it was okay that it was kind of dark and foreboding.
00:21:36.692 -->
00:21:39.227I'm going to let my puppy out while you fill it up, no problem.
00:21:40.144 -->
00:21:41.550Yeah, you know, I actually remember.
00:21:41.550 -->
00:21:56.135When Mitch comes back he'll confirm, but I think we ended up doing another shot in a nearby town not in Sedona the next day before we ended up coming back.
00:21:56.135 -->
00:22:07.976In the end we shot in Sedona, we shot in a second location, and then I'm just going to let him put his cans back on so he can hear me.
00:22:07.976 -->
00:22:14.394Yeah, I'm pretty sure we shot in three different locations.
00:22:14.394 -->
00:22:18.070And Mitch?
00:22:18.070 -->
00:22:22.332Yeah, mitch, I was just saying I think we shot in three different locations.
00:22:22.332 -->
00:22:23.288We shot in Sedona.
00:22:23.288 -->
00:22:30.107We tried to salvage it the next day by shooting somewhere a nearby airport, somewhere else.
00:22:30.208 -->
00:22:31.834That the guy can fly the plane to.
00:22:31.834 -->
00:22:33.270Yeah, and we managed to do.
00:22:33.270 -->
00:22:34.609He wouldn't go back to Sedona.
00:22:34.609 -->
00:22:37.048He was like no, we're done, I'm not going back there.
00:22:37.048 -->
00:22:41.670So we managed to have him that's right to fly out of a different airport.
00:22:41.670 -->
00:22:43.750And then that's when we got the spiral in shot.
00:22:43.769 -->
00:22:45.515That's right, we got another one.
00:22:45.575 -->
00:22:49.294That was a nightmare, I'm like triggered just thinking about that, I know.
00:22:49.944 -->
00:22:50.728And then we did get.
00:22:50.728 -->
00:22:54.252We had to end up getting one more set of shots and we got those.
00:22:54.252 -->
00:23:00.413I want to say, just like you and the cameraman only went Because, oh, but that's the other thing.
00:23:00.413 -->
00:23:00.905Okay.
00:23:00.905 -->
00:23:08.327So when we shot at the first place in Sedona, that was almost a complete wipeout In an actual fact.
00:23:08.327 -->
00:23:15.195I don't know that any footage from Sedona actually made it into the film, but we shot Nothing, nothing.
00:23:15.625 -->
00:23:16.911Yeah, so we shot a second day.
00:23:16.911 -->
00:23:20.295So we stayed at a hotel because there were two girls with us.
00:23:20.295 -->
00:23:38.113We chipped in whatever money we had, like we literally went through like the bottoms of our backpacks and the seats and the van and scraped together like $67 so that the two girls could sleep in a bed in a hotel room and the guys slept in the van right outside the.
00:23:38.113 -->
00:23:44.451And I'm saying in Sedona we were at like the Motel 6 of Sedona.
00:23:44.451 -->
00:23:53.153It didn't even have Motel or 6 in the name, but it was that level of whatever they had in Sedona that we could get for $67 a night.
00:23:53.744 -->
00:23:54.588Yeah, I don't think it was.
00:23:54.588 -->
00:23:56.511I think we driven back to Phoenix.
00:23:56.511 -->
00:23:57.568I actually think it was in.
00:23:58.244 -->
00:24:15.550Well, I know we stayed in Sedona, no matter what, and then we drove, I think that night the props guy had to figure out how we could get that plane to somewhere else, and by the morning it was like, okay, the guy said he'll go to this airport with the plane and we can meet him at this time.
00:24:15.550 -->
00:24:19.614And then it was like, okay, we're heading that way.
00:24:20.444 -->
00:24:44.249And then it was the logistics guy's job to get that airport locked up for us to be able to shoot at by the time the plane got there and we got there Right, and then we were able to meet up with the plane guy and we were able to meet up with the right airport people and it was like the first three people that we went to at the airport were sort of like we have no idea what you're talking about, get the hell out of our airport.
00:24:44.249 -->
00:25:08.509And it was like, finally we were able to like and I think we may have shot at that airport guerrilla style, so we weren't actually authorized to shoot there, but we ended up going like outside the gate on the runway and got set up a camera in a place where you can really see the fence, and it was like, oh my goodness, okay, we were desperate.
00:25:08.625 -->
00:25:15.095This was now what you call a voyage a ship named Hale, a ship named Hade, on a voyage to Hale.
00:25:15.904 -->
00:25:17.866That's what this now is In the Sea Org.
00:25:17.866 -->
00:25:21.440This is known as making it go, Right yeah.
00:25:22.001 -->
00:25:26.693Yeah, we had to make it go right with whatever money or resources we had.
00:25:26.693 -->
00:25:28.410Okay, so we shoot that.
00:25:28.410 -->
00:25:35.671Okay, when we come back, it is pretty much oh, and I don't know how.
00:25:35.671 -->
00:25:39.315Well, this was a unique position that we were in.
00:25:39.315 -->
00:25:45.013People could fly under the radar at the base and do dumb things, and it could go on for months.
00:25:45.013 -->
00:25:54.150Dave Muscavige is never going to find out, or it's very unlikely that he's going to go to your area and inspect you, what you're doing, and talk to you and all that.
00:25:54.150 -->
00:26:00.575Unfortunately, when we're shooting a film, we're sending him footage every single day.
00:26:00.575 -->
00:26:07.732So if a day goes by and he doesn't get any footage, he knows something's rotten in China and we done messed up.
00:26:07.944 -->
00:26:12.111Yeah, no, this is a constant data stream from the shoot crew to Muscavige.
00:26:12.111 -->
00:26:13.789It's just a continuous thing.
00:26:13.789 -->
00:26:15.454It's like he gets to see.
00:26:15.454 -->
00:26:17.893You can't just skip a day and say, oh, we were whatever.
00:26:18.486 -->
00:26:24.027Yeah, if he doesn't get, if he goes, okay, let's go down to go watch the film the dailies.
00:26:24.027 -->
00:26:28.392And then someone has to tell him oh sir, there's no dailies today.
00:26:28.392 -->
00:26:31.834There was bad weather in Sedona, arizona.
00:26:31.834 -->
00:26:38.009That's a little bomb that's going to go off in your pocket Within the next hour.
00:26:38.009 -->
00:26:43.093You're going to find out that David Muscavige knows you didn't do anything today.
00:26:44.711 -->
00:26:50.830So we, and I think the first thing that would have been said sorry to interrupt you, it would have been why did they go to Sedona?
00:26:50.830 -->
00:26:52.731There's an airport right here in Hammett.
00:26:55.045 -->
00:26:56.652It literally would go that way.
00:26:56.652 -->
00:27:03.470It would be like why the it's just there's a parade of questions that will come back to us.
00:27:03.470 -->
00:27:11.192So we didn't end up coming back the first night, so we came back the second night and now we had two days worth of footage.
00:27:11.192 -->
00:27:16.852And when David Muscavige saw that footage it was like what's going on?
00:27:17.625 -->
00:27:22.991Yeah, it was not good and we had to basically explain that there was a giant cluster.
00:27:22.991 -->
00:27:25.268Yeah.
00:27:25.288 -->
00:27:27.935Monsoon season, the whole thing.
00:27:27.935 -->
00:27:31.976Anyway, I ended up getting in massive trouble over this.
00:27:32.365 -->
00:27:34.164And I wanna say Everybody did.
00:27:34.164 -->
00:27:35.450I think we all were in a lot.
00:27:36.005 -->
00:27:43.353Yeah, but because I was the one who checked the weather, like it was like, well, who checked the weather?
00:27:43.353 -->
00:27:45.492It was like, well, that's the Shukr chief's job.
00:27:45.492 -->
00:28:02.025And then you go like, well, yeah, but you set up the location in Sedona, arizona Logistics guy and the plain guy had to know the weather and it was like, and so in the end it was like I checked the weather and it said partly sunny and if you went to, sounds good.
00:28:02.045 -->
00:28:02.788And if you went?
00:28:02.849 -->
00:28:05.443to another forecast or another website.
00:28:05.443 -->
00:28:07.224It said partly cloudy.
00:28:07.224 -->
00:28:10.123So it was like well, which one did you look at and which one?
00:28:10.123 -->
00:28:12.005And it was like it didn't matter.
00:28:12.005 -->
00:28:14.580It says look like the last 20 days.
00:28:14.580 -->
00:28:16.714It said partly sunny and the last 20 days this one said partly cloudy.
00:28:16.714 -->
00:28:19.743And they both could have said either.
00:28:19.743 -->
00:28:24.412Or it was like who cares, like Anyway.
00:28:24.412 -->
00:28:31.525So Exactly that was the major investigation was what does partly cloudy mean to you and what does partly sunny mean to you?
00:28:31.525 -->
00:28:37.553And I'm like it means it's gonna be part sun and part clouds, or part clouds or part sun, either way.
00:28:37.553 -->
00:28:45.554It went on and on and on and on and we all got in big trouble and so, when it needed to be, some of the shots needed to be reshot, and I think it was that spinny spin shot.
00:28:45.554 -->
00:28:48.305That's the one we got.
00:28:50.718 -->
00:28:55.644The one we needed was the stable takeoff, the takeoffs and landings at an airport.
00:28:55.644 -->
00:28:59.369So the shot of the guy spiraling you could shoot that anywhere.
00:28:59.369 -->
00:29:01.279That the guy could fly overhead.
00:29:01.279 -->
00:29:05.537We needed an airport and there was no way we were going back to Sedona.
00:29:05.537 -->
00:29:06.924Yeah, there's no way we were going back.
00:29:06.924 -->
00:29:09.670And now Mitch Mitch usually is like nope, we're going to Sedona.
00:29:10.729 -->
00:29:14.462And then you're like Mitch, you know we could shoot at nearby Nope, we're going to Sedona.
00:29:14.462 -->
00:29:20.045So then, after we all get in trouble and all that, and it's like Mitch, we're going to Inyo Kern about an hour and a half from there.
00:29:20.045 -->
00:29:22.019Well, it's a beautiful airport.
00:29:22.019 -->
00:29:24.020I wish I could shoot at Sedona.
00:29:24.020 -->
00:29:25.471It's a beautiful airport.
00:29:25.565 -->
00:29:28.648I wish I would have known about it, I would have shot at there Well, no, I wouldn't have.
00:29:28.648 -->
00:29:37.549But there is this airport that's a lot closer than Sedona, so in California it's north of Los Angeles, at a place called Inyo Kern.
00:29:37.549 -->
00:29:42.569It used to be a Navy base and now it's a private visual, you know, like a little private little airport.
00:29:42.569 -->
00:29:59.193The thing that's unique about this airport is the runways are huge because during World War II they used to land you know, big, big air and cargo airplanes on there and the people that were in the airport they constantly pave the black top.
00:29:59.193 -->
00:30:09.213They redo the runways to keep them pristine and black because they get so many shoot days for car commercials at this place.
00:30:09.213 -->
00:30:22.554And it's in the foothills to the Sierra, so it has this beautiful mountainous background and yeah, so I'm like, okay, we're going Inyo Kern, but it was just me in the camera department because I was told dude, you're paying for this freaking thing.
00:30:23.406 -->
00:30:38.585I mean, I want to say that we ended up getting billed for all the film that we shot in Sedona Like we paid all like anything, and the way it works in the shoot crew is a Kana Kodak 5248 or whatever we were using vision stock.
00:30:38.644 -->
00:30:40.632Back then it was probably a thousand bucks.
00:30:42.965 -->
00:30:47.332Yeah, it depends on if it was a small canner or if it was a big canner yeah, no, it's just a buck a foot.
00:30:47.664 -->
00:30:48.469But yeah, go ahead, sorry.
00:30:48.964 -->
00:30:54.127Anyway, from 500 to $1,000 a can, depending on how much film it was that was.
00:30:54.127 -->
00:31:00.373You're getting billed for that, and if it was you and two other people, then you just it was a three way split.
00:31:00.373 -->
00:31:00.747It was just.
00:31:00.747 -->
00:31:03.271It wasn't even like well, you're 20% responsible.
00:31:03.271 -->
00:31:06.053No, you three 33% each.
00:31:06.285 -->
00:31:08.574But if you're done, you owe 330 bucks.
00:31:08.664 -->
00:31:09.769You owe 330 bucks.
00:31:09.769 -->
00:31:16.656You owe 330 bucks 330 bucks three and 33, whatever, anyway, and so we were all not going on this.
00:31:16.656 -->
00:31:19.230We knew, like well, they're like well, we got to go do a reshoot.
00:31:19.230 -->
00:31:26.171And whenever even the shoot crew were like, well, okay, so we're going to need this and we're going to, no, they're like no, you're not need, you don't need anything.
00:31:26.171 -->
00:31:29.354Mitch is going to drive and the camera crew are going.
00:31:29.424 -->
00:31:32.133Yeah, I'm going to put the camera in the trunk of my BMW.
00:31:32.133 -->
00:31:33.984Yes, we're going to drive to Inyocura.
00:31:33.984 -->
00:31:36.133I'm going to drive with the cameraman and the assistant cameraman.
00:31:36.133 -->
00:31:42.786God damn it, we're going to get the shot, or we're pretty much out of Scientology, yeah, right, anyway.
00:31:42.786 -->
00:31:45.134So we went up there and we did.
00:31:45.134 -->
00:31:46.791I mean, I was carrying camera cases.
00:31:46.791 -->
00:31:47.868I hadn't done this in college.
00:31:47.868 -->
00:31:50.751It was great, caron camera cases help set up cameras.
00:31:50.751 -->
00:31:51.374Blah, blah, blah.
00:31:51.374 -->
00:31:52.008We got the shot.
00:31:52.008 -->
00:31:56.214It turned out so good that they they didn't.
00:31:57.047 -->
00:31:58.991We didn't have to pay for anything for that day.
00:31:58.991 -->
00:32:04.030Yeah, so that actually was a big sigh of relief, it was like oh my God.
00:32:04.384 -->
00:32:07.053And the best part of these things is when we do this.
00:32:07.053 -->
00:32:10.412It's not good because it sets precedences.
00:32:10.732 -->
00:32:12.612So yeah, why do you need so many people?
00:32:12.752 -->
00:32:19.307Yeah, why did you need five people before, or six people or seven people or whatever it was when you did it?
00:32:19.307 -->
00:32:21.453Fine with three people and no money?
00:32:21.453 -->
00:32:28.828So it's like one of those things where it sets you up for the next time you need to do a location shoot Right, you better, you better.
00:32:28.828 -->
00:32:35.490Make sure you got your, your eyes dotted and your T's crossed, because they're going to come at you with a magnifying glass.
00:32:35.585 -->
00:32:37.226But hey, wait a minute, there's.
00:32:37.226 -->
00:32:38.771It says there's four people.
00:32:38.771 -->
00:32:47.954The last time you guys did a location shoot with Mitch you did it with three, including Mitch, and you're just like that was cause we were in trouble.
00:32:48.224 -->
00:32:52.669We just were, we were, we were taking we were taking our hits.
00:32:52.669 -->
00:32:54.669Okay, we screwed up the first one.
00:32:54.669 -->
00:32:58.332You know, I just remembered Mark that airport in your current airport.
00:32:58.332 -->
00:33:07.454It's next door to a place called China Lake Naval Reserve, Right, and China Lake Naval Reserve is next to area 51.
00:33:07.454 -->
00:33:15.218That is the number one place in America for spooky alien urban myths and UFO sightings.
00:33:15.218 -->
00:33:19.511I mean, this is the place where they tested all the stealth bomber and the stealth jet.
00:33:19.531 -->
00:33:19.913Oh yeah.
00:33:20.505 -->
00:33:24.214So a lot of that stuff was reported by the locals as UFOs.
00:33:24.214 -->
00:33:27.094So we were told, you know, we had a permit to shoot there.
00:33:27.094 -->
00:33:32.593And we were told, because a lot of the shooting there is not aircraft, it's cars on the runway.
00:33:32.593 -->
00:33:45.814So we were told by the airport authority there the private airport authority, make sure your pilot does not fly over China Lake, because they'll shoot them down right there.
00:33:45.814 -->
00:33:54.031They said look, there was a 16 year old kid a couple of weeks ago he flew, accidentally flew a glider, because they had a glider club at that airport.
00:33:54.031 -->
00:33:57.849He accidentally flew a glider over the airspace of China Lake Naval Base.
00:33:57.849 -->
00:34:05.094He lost his right to have a flight, to have a pilot's license for the rest of his life.
00:34:05.094 -->
00:34:08.485Wow, they said, you will never fly anyway.
00:34:08.485 -->
00:34:10.132So that was an interesting place.
00:34:10.132 -->
00:34:17.476That made us a little nervous because, you know, considering everything that happened before, that's all we needed was yeah, pilot got shut down.
00:34:18.085 -->
00:34:18.768Yeah, totally.
00:34:18.768 -->
00:34:28.552Before I forget, guys, we are going to show you an amazing document at the end of this stream, so make sure you stick around to the very end.
00:34:28.652 -->
00:34:31.414Yeah, you need to see this and you need to see it on my channel, right, mark?
00:34:31.414 -->
00:34:33.344That's right, and that's what I was going to say.
00:34:33.344 -->
00:34:36.215You got to check out Mitch's channel at Scientology.
00:34:36.324 -->
00:34:36.967The big lie.
00:34:36.967 -->
00:34:40.494We're trying to get Mitch's channel kind of going.
00:34:40.494 -->
00:34:54.516This SPTV channel incubator system works as long as the subscribers from some of the bigger channels go and subscribe and watch videos on some of the smaller channels.
00:34:54.516 -->
00:35:04.335And that's sort of the system that we have where we try to team up different channels with other channels to kind of incubate that channel into getting monetized and all that good stuff.
00:35:04.644 -->
00:35:16.735Yeah, and I promise my boys got of honor a promise more really high quality content, especially once my book is done, because that's been like I've been kind of hit and miss because I got it.
00:35:16.844 -->
00:35:31.835It's so funny that you brought that up Mitch, because you can go to Indiegogo Projects, the Scientology, the big lie, and if you want to help Mitch out getting his book together, then, and also I don't know what the different levels are on there.
00:35:31.835 -->
00:35:32.766Mitch, can you?
00:35:32.766 -->
00:35:34.012Is it like you get a book?
00:35:34.012 -->
00:35:34.989No, matt, like if you.
00:35:35.565 -->
00:35:37.092No, I don't have any said deal.
00:35:37.092 -->
00:35:45.192I mean, obviously, some people who have donated really large amounts of money, they'll get something, but I haven't really settled it yet.
00:35:45.192 -->
00:35:46.831But I have to tell you I was a very low.
00:35:46.831 -->
00:35:51.170I had a very low campaign goal, which was only $2,000 in money I needed to finish it.
00:35:51.170 -->
00:35:54.190We're at 108%, so I've already passed it.
00:35:54.190 -->
00:36:01.929But the thing is I want to keep going with it because I need to upgrade some equipment and I'm going to have other costs for the book, like for printing.
00:36:01.929 -->
00:36:10.264So rather than starting a new campaign like, let's see how far we can purchase this campaign and I mean this community, as you know, mark, they're incredible.
00:36:10.264 -->
00:36:17.150I mean this is like an amazing reckoning that's happening in the world of people who want to screw people over.
00:36:18.333 -->
00:36:20.376Well, the thing they went in, yeah, sorry.
00:36:20.376 -->
00:36:22.873Well, the thing I want to say you brought up a great point.
00:36:22.873 -->
00:36:37.585The thing I want to say is that if we can get some of these other channels in the sort of loosely connected SPTV network, you're going to be able to get differing content as well as higher quality content.
00:36:37.585 -->
00:36:47.552And Mitch knows people that I don't know and I know people that Mitch doesn't know, and we're kind of connecting up all these different people to be able to bring you guys content.
00:36:47.552 -->
00:36:55.791So when you support the new and upcoming channels and subscribe and like and all that good stuff, hit the bell notification icon.
00:36:55.791 -->
00:37:02.664It makes a difference for the YouTube algorithm and it pushes these channels up into people's recommended page.
00:37:02.684 -->
00:37:10.092Yeah, and also, like Mark and I had experiences which I never remembered until I started talking to Mark, and I think the same for him Totally.
00:37:10.373 -->
00:37:11.094We started talking.
00:37:11.094 -->
00:37:12.389We're like, oh my God.
00:37:12.389 -->
00:37:34.215Well, it's funny you say that because I remember shooting this plane thing but I didn't know which film it even went with, like I had forgotten the, the traumatic experience of of driving for three days with no sleep and getting in trouble when we got and knowing, oh, that's the worst thing, because you have this drive of shame.
00:37:34.215 -->
00:37:37.050You know when you get back you're toast.
00:37:37.050 -->
00:37:41.326You know you're gonna get in huge trouble for spending all this money.
00:37:41.326 -->
00:37:54.371You know, whatever it was $2,000, spending all this money on film and the location and the plane and all this stuff and then getting no shots and you're driving back to.
00:37:54.371 -->
00:37:56.175Okay, am I gonna go to the RPF?
00:37:56.295 -->
00:37:56.697am I gonna be?
00:37:57.164 -->
00:37:57.728imposed.
00:37:57.728 -->
00:37:58.190Am I gonna?
00:37:58.190 -->
00:37:59.516Am I shoot?
00:37:59.516 -->
00:38:01.465I'm gonna get in a signed lower conditions.
00:38:01.465 -->
00:38:09.836I'm not gonna be able to go home for another four or six months and all the you're just driving back like, yeah, okay, what fun awaits me.
00:38:09.856 -->
00:38:13.027Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
00:38:13.047 -->
00:38:17.425Yeah, you know, I didn't remember that the plane was connected to this film.
00:38:17.425 -->
00:38:32.726And then when Mitch, we have a, we have a, like a note that we kind of create for each one of these things, and when Mitch added all the plane stuff, I was like, oh my god, dude, I totally forgot that was for this film that we're about to talk yeah, and I had only just remembered it, it wasn't like I was just sitting on it, it was.
00:38:34.070 -->
00:38:35.192It was very traumatic.
00:38:35.192 -->
00:38:37.516So the film itself.
00:38:37.516 -->
00:38:39.128Let me just we'll get back to the film.
00:38:39.550 -->
00:38:46.373Yeah, this is just oh, this is just the opening sequence, yeah and sequence and one little shot in the movie.
00:38:46.373 -->
00:38:58.534This whole, this whole debacle probably is, takes about, I want to say, 45 seconds worth of footage of this entire film, maybe a minute yeah, and every everything else.
00:38:58.795 -->
00:39:01.708Yeah, everything else was shot in a studio.
00:39:01.708 -->
00:39:03.333Some of it.
00:39:03.333 -->
00:39:05.237We went to LA and rented a studio.
00:39:05.237 -->
00:39:07.871I just remembered that because we had didn't have the castle yet.
00:39:07.871 -->
00:39:11.141Yeah, and we did the scene.
00:39:11.141 -->
00:39:13.148Okay, I have to back up a minute.
00:39:13.449 -->
00:39:16.766This script that Hubbard wrote was incredibly boring.
00:39:16.766 -->
00:39:19.661All it was was a guy sitting at a car folding card table.
00:39:19.661 -->
00:39:21.047They'd actually tried to shoot it once.
00:39:21.047 -->
00:39:22.713So I'm telling you this is how, what?
00:39:22.713 -->
00:39:28.836It was sitting at a card table and then there was a narrator, but you couldn't ever see his head.
00:39:28.836 -->
00:39:36.092He was standing next to him like you just see him from the shoulders down and he was pointing at the meter and telling this guy what to do.
00:39:36.092 -->
00:39:38.108And that was pretty much the whole movie.
00:39:38.108 -->
00:39:41.360And I'm like there is no way I'm shooting that movie.
00:39:41.360 -->
00:39:44.431I didn't come here to shoot like an instructional film.
00:39:44.431 -->
00:39:45.273That's like so boring.
00:39:45.273 -->
00:39:48.965So I I loved this film.
00:39:48.965 -->
00:39:50.110It was called a guy named Joe.
00:39:50.130 -->
00:40:00.9291943, spencer Tracy, world War two romance about a pilot, spencer Tracy, who dies and then he has to become his best friend's co-pilot.
00:40:00.929 -->
00:40:14.485He's like an invisible angel that now sits in the backseat in battle and helps him fly, and it's really tough for him to do this because I think it's fan Johnson who plays his friend, has now taken up with his ex-girlfriend.
00:40:14.485 -->
00:40:20.786So it's a really it's a great film if you like old black and white films, romantic films.
00:40:20.786 -->
00:40:30.996It was directed by I'm sorry about Victor Fleming yeah, victor Fleming, directly like gone with the wind and the Wizard of Oz, so it's like a.
00:40:30.996 -->
00:40:32.108This is a major deal.
00:40:32.108 -->
00:40:33.731I really loved that film.
00:40:33.771 -->
00:40:43.630So I thought well, what if I make the narrator guy into like a, an angel who's invisible, who stands next to him and the audience can see her, but the guy can't see her?
00:40:43.630 -->
00:40:47.527So I completely rewrote all the visuals in the film.
00:40:47.527 -->
00:40:49.297Everybody thinks it was written by a lot of work.
00:40:49.297 -->
00:40:52.844He wrote all the dialogue and the narration, but I wrote everything else in the film.
00:40:52.844 -->
00:41:00.668And the film opens with this person who's gonna play this angel going to see God in heaven.
00:41:00.668 -->
00:41:07.253None of this is in the script and we went into a studio in Hollywood and we made like a dry-ice heaven.
00:41:07.253 -->
00:41:13.434Remember that we made like a dry-ice heaven with fog and and you never saw God.
00:41:13.434 -->
00:41:22.105But this angel who happens to be a Scientologist, because apparently angels are also auditors you can all expect.
00:41:22.105 -->
00:41:23.670Welcome to heaven.
00:41:23.670 -->
00:41:25.016You're welcome to heaven.
00:41:25.016 -->
00:41:30.699Security check those Christians when they finally get to heaven because, but also this auditor.
00:41:30.800 -->
00:41:35.452Katie Mitchell also played an angel in another movie, right?
00:41:35.994 -->
00:41:39.648as played an angel who was an auditor yeah, so check, checker.
00:41:39.648 -->
00:41:42.916Yeah, check, checker so you're, a few people believe in heaven.
00:41:42.916 -->
00:41:43.347You're out.
00:41:43.367 -->
00:41:49.599Yet you're in for a little surprise when you get up yeah, when you walk through the pearly gates is gonna be some broad.
00:41:49.599 -->
00:41:51.447They're trying to ask you a lot of questions.
00:41:51.467 -->
00:41:58.050Gonna be an ethics officer yeah, up there going, welcome to heaven, here's where you, anyway.
00:41:58.050 -->
00:42:13.615But my point is so we're at this and the angel who's gonna teach this guy to be a solo on her, she's gonna get this assignment from God and God's gonna say I want you to go down to earth and I want you to help this guy, charlie right, his name was Charlie, something.
00:42:13.615 -->
00:42:17.126Yeah, and go help this guy, charlie.
00:42:17.126 -->
00:42:18.490And the voice of God.
00:42:18.490 -->
00:42:20.606I thought, well, this is an important decision.
00:42:20.606 -->
00:42:23.393Who you know what the voice of God sounds like.
00:42:23.393 -->
00:42:23.914So I had.
00:42:24.335 -->
00:42:29.588I knew this, this black woman, this actress who was a Scientologist, who had a really incredible voice.
00:42:29.588 -->
00:42:35.570So I'm like, okay, cool, god is a black woman which kind of fits with my whole political social thing.
00:42:35.570 -->
00:42:38.338So I snuck that in there people.
00:42:38.338 -->
00:42:52.327But while we were at that studio that night shooting, we met for the first time an actor from the Beverly Hills Playhouse who came to that studio because he wanted to meet us, a guy named Jason Brigade.
00:42:52.327 -->
00:42:57.568Yes, that's where we met Jason for the very first time and he was very gung-ho, very.
00:42:57.568 -->
00:43:06.364We have stories we're gonna get into about work that we did, oh my goodness, we did so many films with Jason and Jason was I all.
00:43:06.384 -->
00:43:22.802I'm pretty much have a great story for every single time we shot with Jason because, yeah, it was always a party when Jason showed up and, yeah, so made my life excruciatingly difficult because he didn't, because he was a, he was.
00:43:22.802 -->
00:43:25.849He was a professional actor who done.
00:43:25.849 -->
00:43:27.753He did movies.
00:43:27.753 -->
00:43:30.385Yeah, jane GI Jane with Ridley Scott.
00:43:30.385 -->
00:43:33.012He did Monkey Shines with George RRomero.
00:43:33.012 -->
00:43:39.621He did real movies and real TV shows and he didn't put up with any of our Scientology C organization.
00:43:39.621 -->
00:43:41.929We're like just a rag tag shirt crew.
00:43:41.929 -->
00:43:42.088Now.
00:43:42.108 -->
00:43:58.248He was like that's on you, not on me yeah, we're gonna play by the rules here, folks yeah that's how we do it yeah, he was no nonsense but I still remember when he came by that night it was just totally yeah, because somebody said we were there and he wanted to meet us because he wanted to be in our films.
00:43:58.650 -->
00:43:59.514Yeah, we rented this.
00:43:59.514 -->
00:44:07.268The studio it was right off of, I want to say, santa Monica and Highland in that area, no that was the one we did for orientation.
00:44:07.409 -->
00:44:13.391This one was in the valley north of North Hollywood, like oh yes, you're right, another one we used.
00:44:13.431 -->
00:44:15.317We used to rent, but we used to.
00:44:15.317 -->
00:44:18.496When we were at that one in Hollywood, we did a ton of films.
00:44:18.496 -->
00:44:25.677Yeah, we sort of grew out of the the gym like, yeah, so many sets to do in order to do them quickly.
00:44:25.677 -->
00:44:30.916We just couldn't do them at, yeah, headquarters at the bay, at the one studio we had.
00:44:30.916 -->
00:44:40.137So we had, yeah, it was a set of studios in Los Angeles and in the studio next to us they shot America's America's funniest home videos.
00:44:40.137 -->
00:44:43.509Yeah, we were always running into stuff like that.
00:44:43.509 -->
00:44:53.498Yeah, we, so we, we would always be shooting around some other thing that was popular in the in the regular world, but in the sea org.
00:44:53.498 -->
00:44:54.938We had no idea what they were.
00:44:54.938 -->
00:44:57.536It was like America's funniest home videos.
00:44:57.536 -->
00:45:04.106Yeah, that's a thing and and we'd sometimes we'd share their, depending on which studio we were renting.
00:45:04.106 -->
00:45:15.818We'd share their makeup and costumes areas, so there'd be kind of their stuff would be left over from when they just finished their season yeah and we kind of be like, oh, what's this, you know?
00:45:15.958 -->
00:45:20.974oh, this is where they shoot America's funniest home videos and they're like okay anyway.
00:45:20.974 -->
00:45:25.590So yeah, we did meet Jason on that shoot, that's right.
00:45:25.590 -->
00:45:27.155Yeah, just a little side color.
00:45:27.155 -->
00:45:30.829And then also there was was.
00:45:30.829 -->
00:45:31.590So we had Jack.
00:45:32.152 -->
00:45:37.612Jack Armstrong was the was Charlie now you're talking about the second one, the first one.
00:45:37.632 -->
00:45:38.217I don't remember.
00:45:38.217 -->
00:45:40.168We don't remember who that guy was in the first.
00:45:40.188 -->
00:45:41.719Yeah, it's really weird that we can't remember.
00:45:41.719 -->
00:45:43.429Was it maybe Michael Adams?
00:45:43.429 -->
00:45:49.655No, he was a non-scientologist member we used to work with a lot yeah, there were a few guys like that.
00:45:49.655 -->
00:45:53.987Remember Al Clegg oh, my god, right.
00:45:53.987 -->
00:45:58.715Yeah, he was the, the guy used to play for Kansas City, was that?
00:45:58.715 -->
00:45:59.338No, no, a.
00:46:00.445 -->
00:46:09.992Clegg was the guy in em 5 that the the PC, the the prince's son or the the king's son, that black guy yeah, wasn't, that wasn't his name.
00:46:10.414 -->
00:46:10.795Al Clegg.
00:46:10.795 -->
00:46:11.516He used to play.
00:46:11.516 -->
00:46:11.945He was.
00:46:11.945 -->
00:46:17.210He had like two seasons in the NFL, I think he played for Kansas City and he had a horrific injury.
00:46:17.210 -->
00:46:20.103He could ruin his career and then he went into acting.
00:46:20.143 -->
00:46:25.938Yeah, it's a great guy, yeah, he was nice, but we so, we so, but yeah, we used him a lot.
00:46:25.938 -->
00:46:33.246There were people that we liked, so we would yeah so so what I remember is that there was Jack Armstrong.
00:46:33.246 -->
00:46:39.130Kelly Daniels played the auditor right, I mean the angel, whatever you want to call it.
00:46:39.130 -->
00:46:41.360That was invisible but he could.
00:46:41.360 -->
00:46:51.907It was weird because she was basically talking like okay, now you're gonna want to set up your meter, and then he would just set, starts doing the thing that, yeah, saying yeah, we were here.
00:46:51.969 -->
00:46:54.735Yeah, yeah, yeah he couldn't hear her.
00:46:54.735 -->
00:46:55.797It was clairvoyant.
00:46:55.797 -->
00:47:03.152Yeah, because, because you're learning to communicate with what will become known to you, revealed to you later as BT's.
00:47:03.152 -->
00:47:11.443I had the, I had the you know brilliant artistic idea to introduce the, the aspect of clairvoyance, into the film.
00:47:11.443 -->
00:47:15.856So she would say, okay, now pick up the pen.
00:47:15.856 -->
00:47:20.431And he'd go and he'd pick it up, yeah, as though it was his own thought.
00:47:20.431 -->
00:47:22.679Yeah, he say, you know, now turn your meter on.
00:47:22.679 -->
00:47:26.677And then then she say, start reading the commands.
00:47:26.677 -->
00:47:32.416And so he'd start reading these off of a printed sheet, the commands that he's giving himself.
00:47:32.416 -->
00:47:33.427This is probably.
00:47:33.427 -->
00:47:35.996This is another catchphrase mark.
00:47:36.097 -->
00:47:42.773I just remember the catchphrase yeah no, no, silently to yourself yes, that's exactly.
00:47:42.773 -->
00:47:43.755I couldn't.
00:47:44.257 -->
00:47:49.000I couldn't remember what it was from this film for every film yeah there is.
00:47:49.000 -->
00:47:52.695Some of them have one or two and some of them have ten.
00:47:52.695 -->
00:47:57.577But yeah, there's these sayings that they said that you would use it in real life.
00:47:57.577 -->
00:47:58.663Oh, all over the world.
00:47:58.724 -->
00:48:15.574I'd meet Scientologists all over the world and they'd be saying these things to me from tech films, like I never heard it before yeah and this, and like if somebody was really chattering away and you're around you and you just wanted to just tell them to shut up, you'd say no, no, silently to yourself.
00:48:15.954 -->
00:48:21.208Yes, yeah, and that is true, a lot of these were.
00:48:21.208 -->
00:48:22.795They were comical.
00:48:23.135 -->
00:48:29.135Yeah, within Scientology yeah, we could get away with it because it was, we were hovered, what that one was a little bit.
00:48:30.186 -->
00:48:36.931That was a little bit south, because yeah taking a lot of still, we would, yeah, we would, we would definitely use those.
00:48:36.931 -->
00:48:47.711Yeah, yeah, one film where it's em5, where there's a bunch of papers blow all over the floor right and the messenger comes in and says get these papers picked up.
00:48:48.052 -->
00:49:02.844And so whenever, so whenever we somebody would go into somebody's office and it was messy, we like get these papers picked up, yeah sometimes I wonder if these are so inside jokes that people are looking at this right now and going what the fuck are they talking about?
00:49:02.965 -->
00:49:05.860yeah, like, oh, that's really funny get these papers picked up.
00:49:05.880 -->
00:49:10.764Yeah, I guess you had to be there no, but some of them were really were really helpful lines.
00:49:10.764 -->
00:49:16.172There's one in a film that Jason was in that we're gonna do later and we'll bring this back up again.
00:49:16.172 -->
00:49:27.009But the Jason character is trying to pull the wool over the auditor's eyes and he's saying you're a great guy, and when I laid eyes on you I saw there's a really honorable.
00:49:27.009 -->
00:49:34.125He's just trying to butter the guy up because he wants to lie to him and the auditor looks at him and says thank you for your good opinion, I'll try and live up to it.
00:49:34.760 -->
00:49:34.922And.
00:49:35.001 -->
00:49:42.650I can't tell you how many times somebody threw some horrific insult at me and I replied thank you for your good opinion.
00:49:42.650 -->
00:49:43.885I'll try and live up to it.
00:49:43.885 -->
00:49:46.688So that was a really helpful line.
00:49:46.688 -->
00:49:48.447I still use it to this day.
00:49:49.079 -->
00:49:50.867Yeah, oh, there's so many good ones.
00:49:50.867 -->
00:49:58.952I the one, the the one that I use with Claire all the time, is in a film called EM.8.
00:49:58.952 -->
00:50:08.880They're doing a tour around organization and they get to this this character, I think he's the public public executive secretary.
00:50:08.880 -->
00:50:23.623He's sort of over the divisions that are supposed to get people into Scientology, and it's played by the actor Michael D Roberts, right, and they're talking about some person who's not doing good on the job and he can't.
00:50:23.623 -->
00:50:29.009He can't get new people in, and then Michael Roberts says can't have that.
00:50:29.009 -->
00:50:30.726If so, replace.
00:50:31.922 -->
00:50:36.061And yeah, and so whenever somebody says, oh, I've got my Claire, I'll be.
00:50:36.061 -->
00:50:41.266Oh, this, this person's doing this and they're not exactly getting it right, I'll be like can't have that.
00:50:41.266 -->
00:50:43.045If so, replace.
00:50:43.539 -->
00:50:47.369Yeah, and if you really, if you live that life, it just really brings you back.
00:50:47.369 -->
00:50:55.418Yes, hey, I can't bring up the the comments, but if you could bring this one up, yeah, from Russ T, it's a 340.
00:50:55.822 -->
00:50:56.637Yeah, 340.
00:50:56.840 -->
00:50:59.989He's one of the three people that are watching us because we've bored everybody to death.
00:51:00.922 -->
00:51:03.110No, there's like almost 500 people.
00:51:03.110 -->
00:51:05.545No, I'm just joking, mark, bring this one up from Russ T.
00:51:05.545 -->
00:51:07.440Yeah, I'm getting there.
00:51:07.440 -->
00:51:07.702I'm.
00:51:07.702 -->
00:51:10.085I'm so far down 340.
00:51:10.085 -->
00:51:12.019It's each starred, it's a starred comment.
00:51:12.019 -->
00:51:15.016Well, that's easier than yeah, Sorry about the Russ T?
00:51:15.056 -->
00:51:16.780There you go, he's at the bottom there, hey.
00:51:16.780 -->
00:51:20.286So Russ T yeah, you're right, the original version was with Charlie Rush.
00:51:20.286 -->
00:51:25.628But that was three dates, even hour or two that was the one earlier when I said that they never released it.
00:51:25.628 -->
00:51:28.268They never even finished that version with Charlie Rush.
00:51:28.268 -->
00:51:30.125That's the one when I looked at it.
00:51:30.125 -->
00:51:35.818I went no way no way, I'm going to base this on a Victor Fleming film from 1943.
00:51:36.219 -->
00:51:37.125You know it's so funny.
00:51:37.125 -->
00:51:41.525I don't know who this Russ T guy is, but he knows some shit.
00:51:41.525 -->
00:51:42.384He knows some stuff.
00:51:42.384 -->
00:51:43.141Oh no, he.
00:51:43.141 -->
00:51:52.286He commented on at least the last one, maybe both of the last ones, and he was tweaking some of the things that we said like, oh, that happened, but it was this or it was that.
00:51:52.447 -->
00:51:59.809Oh yeah, I was like, oh, this dude was there that there's names and things Even nobody would have known, even the name Charlie Rush.
00:52:00.130 -->
00:52:02.887That's right, and also that it was Charlie Rush.
00:52:02.887 -->
00:52:08.650It absolutely was Charlie Rush, and that this one wasn't the one that we were talking about.
00:52:08.699 -->
00:52:09.684We don't remember that one.
00:52:09.684 -->
00:52:10.744Yeah, the one with Katie.
00:52:10.784 -->
00:52:13.592Mitchell, who was the second person that was this film.
00:52:13.639 -->
00:52:15.766We need to dig up Katie Mitchell and get her on.
00:52:15.766 -->
00:52:20.045I'm telling you, I'm friends with her on Facebook, yeah, but you know what does that mean?
00:52:20.559 -->
00:52:23.088Well, that means, if I messenger, she might be serving back.
00:52:23.639 -->
00:52:25.106No, it means you know how to contact her.
00:52:25.106 -->
00:52:26.324Yeah, will you please tell her?
00:52:26.324 -->
00:52:27.989I said hello, I will.
00:52:28.159 -->
00:52:34.023I'll send her a link to this video saying hey, we were talking about one of the films you were in you might as well be there.
00:52:34.023 -->
00:52:35.844You might as well hang out and talk.
00:52:36.025 -->
00:52:37.268Yeah, exactly Exactly.
00:52:37.268 -->
00:52:38.010We'll get you some.
00:52:38.010 -->
00:52:40.387We'll get you some new, brand new attention.
00:52:40.387 -->
00:52:41.423I don't know what she's doing.
00:52:41.423 -->
00:52:43.226Person's an incredible actress.
00:52:43.226 -->
00:52:57.275So what we know about Russ T is that this film was he was at gold before 1990, because I don't think anybody outside of gold saw that Charlie Rush the very possible.
00:52:57.317 -->
00:53:00.289Yeah so also the things that he knows about as well.
00:53:00.289 -->
00:53:06.525Oh, I'll tell you one of the things that kind of locked him up for me that he knew what he was talking about.
00:53:06.525 -->
00:53:14.007So I always knew that when Scientology bought the golf course, right, they bought it.
00:53:14.007 -->
00:53:19.286What I was told is that they bought it and the people that bought it was not Scientology.
00:53:19.286 -->
00:53:24.570It was called the Scottish Highlands Quietude Society.
00:53:24.831 -->
00:53:25.733Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
00:53:26.079 -->
00:53:26.983That's what I was told.
00:53:26.983 -->
00:53:29.025That's true, I was told the same thing.
00:53:29.025 -->
00:53:34.143Ok, you know what the initials of that are SHQ.
00:53:34.143 -->
00:53:49.208So it was a funny joke that they made Because summer headquarters, Because Gilman Hauntsprings was going to be the summer headquarters and the place in La Quinta which I don't remember if it was you or somebody else who brought this up.
00:53:49.208 -->
00:53:50.885They're 45 minutes to.
00:53:50.940 -->
00:53:51.864Yeah, yeah, no, it was me.
00:53:51.864 -->
00:53:59.510I actually, when I was writing my book, I'm like, ok, I have to be accurate on the distance between the two.
00:53:59.510 -->
00:54:02.161It's actually 60 miles and then I went.
00:54:02.161 -->
00:54:03.186Well, that's interesting.
00:54:03.186 -->
00:54:08.304Let me look up the mean average temperature difference 10 degrees.
00:54:08.304 -->
00:54:13.184So that means when it's 120 in La Quinta it's 110 at Gilman Hauntsprings.
00:54:13.184 -->
00:54:19.387The summer, the summer headquarters yeah there's your summer headquarters, not some alpine mountain retreat.
00:54:19.387 -->
00:54:22.469You know they could have gone up to Big Bear, just they couldn't.
00:54:22.559 -->
00:54:24.483They could have that studio Another hour.
00:54:24.483 -->
00:54:27.750Yeah, the facility that they had up there could have easily.
00:54:27.820 -->
00:54:31.233Well, they didn't have it yet, but but that doesn't matter.
00:54:31.233 -->
00:54:33.019They want something done, they'll do it.
00:54:33.019 -->
00:54:35.407You know that they got all the slave labor they need.
00:54:36.001 -->
00:54:37.387Oh, my goodness Anyway.
00:54:37.387 -->
00:54:41.030So yeah, he said that SHQ was a joke.
00:54:41.030 -->
00:54:42.947The Scottis Highlands Quiettutes.
00:54:43.139 -->
00:54:44.364This guy was probably.
00:54:44.364 -->
00:54:48.625We're calling you out, rusty, you know, because, remember it was.
00:54:48.625 -->
00:54:53.168I was told it was the Gurdians office that made that purchase.
00:54:53.168 -->
00:54:56.795Yeah, because they were looking for a hideout for hover.
00:54:56.896 -->
00:54:57.719Right yeah.
00:54:57.719 -->
00:55:07.905And it was at the time it was sort of like it's called Gilman Hot Springs because they're they're used to actually be hot springs, and this is a crazy story.
00:55:07.905 -->
00:55:14.168I don't know if anybody's ever told this story, but there were hot springs in Gilman Hot Springs.
00:55:14.168 -->
00:55:27.086Right, a lot of people don't know this, but on the other side of the mountain from Gilman Hot Springs, there is a super, super top secret government facility.
00:55:27.086 -->
00:55:28.972That's inside the mountain.
00:55:29.199 -->
00:55:34.699Yeah, to the east, like you can go Google Maps, yes, and you can look at what Mark's saying.
00:55:34.699 -->
00:55:42.831It's to the east of Gold and you will see a blurry spot on Google Maps which has obviously been wiped out.
00:55:42.831 -->
00:55:44.547It's obviously whatever photos there.
00:55:45.201 -->
00:55:50.347Yeah, but also there's a whole road system over there that, yeah, goes nowhere to the mountains.
00:55:50.347 -->
00:55:53.039It looks like they just dead end into the map.
00:55:53.039 -->
00:55:54.485Yeah, all over the place.
00:55:54.960 -->
00:56:00.387People don't know this, but actually every map you see on Google Maps is cleared by the US military.
00:56:01.402 -->
00:56:02.025Google is not.
00:56:02.440 -->
00:56:06.543Yeah, well, I know for a fact because I met a guy who has a private company.
00:56:06.543 -->
00:56:24.710I'm talking about the satellite photos yeah, not the regular maps but I met the guy who has a private company that does the launches for Google to provide them with the photography, and all of that is turned over to the US Air Force and then cleared by Google, so it's all vetted.
00:56:24.710 -->
00:56:29.969So, yeah, nobody knows, not even the crazy curious Scientologists know.
00:56:30.579 -->
00:56:43.784But as a result of the government building this complex inside the mountain, they hit the springs and they dried up that when they were digging in that way, I heard that the government did.
00:56:44.300 -->
00:56:50.485I heard they were just trying to divert a river and the Army Corps of Engineers like that's this, that's the story.
00:56:50.485 -->
00:56:51.322That's the plausible.
00:56:51.322 -->
00:56:52.467Why would they be digging?
00:56:52.527 -->
00:56:52.949in there.
00:56:52.949 -->
00:56:55.226Why would they be digging in the mountain behind where?
00:56:55.246 -->
00:56:56.030What do you think it is?
00:56:56.030 -->
00:56:57.083Do you know what it is?
00:56:58.679 -->
00:57:06.844I have no idea, actually, but I do know that there had been people at the base that went up to the top of the mountain above the base and they never came back.
00:57:07.266 -->
00:57:07.628No, no, no.
00:57:07.628 -->
00:57:11.369When they went up there, there were guys with machine guns at the top of the mountain.
00:57:11.369 -->
00:57:12.391Oh nice, really nice.
00:57:12.391 -->
00:57:23.369But the best part is that sometimes SPs would try to infiltrate the base and they'd come up over the other side of the mountain and these guys with machine guns would be there.
00:57:23.369 -->
00:57:29.048And then they would say oh my god, scientology's got guys with machine guns on top of the mountain that are guarding.
00:57:29.048 -->
00:57:34.306And then there's all these stories about people with machine guns guarding the base.
00:57:34.306 -->
00:57:41.007And when I got out I saw the stories I was like, yeah, those weren't us, those were the guys on the other side of the mountain.
00:57:41.007 -->
00:57:42.902Yeah, the government they were trying to.
00:57:42.902 -->
00:57:45.804They would do the same to us if we went up there.
00:57:47.382 -->
00:57:48.608So they tried up the springs.
00:57:48.840 -->
00:57:54.824And then this old man, old man Gilman, who ran the springs for all these years.
00:57:54.824 -->
00:58:01.255He took boilers, steam boilers, and he built them into all the underground springs.
00:58:01.255 -->
00:58:07.847Oh my god, so he kept the springs running for like another 34 years, 30, 40 years with all these boilers.
00:58:08.320 -->
00:58:20.211Yeah, with table salt and boilers, and then at some point, some ex-employees and all telling old Gilman secrets that the springs were no longer active.
00:58:20.211 -->
00:58:29.865And so that's when it was sort of at the end of its days as a resort that Scientology scooped it up, and I want to say the late 70s.
00:58:30.960 -->
00:58:35.882Yeah, well, according to a video I did on YouTube, so it has to be true I have.
00:58:35.882 -->
00:58:36.485What's her name?
00:58:36.485 -->
00:58:43.728The woman, Kathy Frazier, who sent me the letter telling me I needed to go sit in the corner and feel really bad about speaking out on YouTube.
00:58:44.050 -->
00:58:44.250Yeah.
00:58:44.659 -->
00:58:45.121The bad man.
00:58:45.121 -->
00:58:45.744You're a bad man.
00:58:45.744 -->
00:58:48.003You're a bad man, that's the letter In that video.
00:58:48.003 -->
00:58:55.224In the gold video, the one that I was in, that I did the response to do too, and I also did a short on what she says.
00:58:55.224 -->
00:58:57.230When it was, when was it?
00:58:57.230 -->
00:58:58.172Yeah, I don't know.
00:58:58.172 -->
00:58:59.385I have to look again after that.
00:58:59.385 -->
00:59:00.704It was like you say.
00:59:00.704 -->
00:59:02.827It was in the 70s.
00:59:02.827 -->
00:59:06.369Yeah, prior to 1980s.
00:59:07.110 -->
00:59:07.731Ok, awesome.
00:59:07.731 -->
00:59:11.469Oh, here's another comment from Gary Jackson-Moorhead hey my brothers.
00:59:11.469 -->
00:59:16.666Jackson, you can say hey my brothers without having to send a super chat, because I'm pretty sure you have both of our phone numbers.
00:59:16.666 -->
00:59:18.746You are certainly in your groove, mark.
00:59:18.746 -->
00:59:20.045You just said cans.
00:59:20.045 -->
00:59:22.123I did when you left.
00:59:22.123 -->
00:59:26.552I said when Mitch gets his cans back on.
00:59:28.123 -->
00:59:30.465I will tell you guys the rest of this and.
00:59:30.626 -->
00:59:32.983I might have slipped and said cans, so sorry about that.
00:59:32.983 -->
00:59:35.800Guys, headphones is how most people refer to them.
00:59:35.880 -->
00:59:39.864Yeah well, I wear cans because they're actually cheaper than a good toupee.
00:59:41.047 -->
00:59:43.436That's a good idea, I didn't ever think about that.
00:59:43.436 -->
00:59:48.505Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I have seen you wear those headphones for almost the entire time.
00:59:49.208 -->
00:59:50.293I knew Mitch Exactly.
00:59:50.293 -->
00:59:53.646These are the headphones Exactly MTR 7506's.
00:59:53.666 -->
00:59:54.047Sonys.
00:59:54.047 -->
01:00:04.461But whenever Mitch would be directing, he'd be sitting at the video cart and he would usually have his headphones on or he'd have them around his neck Often like this, often.
01:00:04.461 -->
01:00:09.460I would just do this because but he always had a pair of those exact headphones.
01:00:09.519 -->
01:00:12.244Yeah, yeah, these are standard gold.
01:00:12.244 -->
01:00:14.130Yeah, they're good for the money.
01:00:14.130 -->
01:00:15.364They're the best headphones you can get.
01:00:15.639 -->
01:00:17.226Yeah, awesome.
01:00:17.226 -->
01:00:20.329Ok, here's another super sticker from Elizabeth Sarah.
01:00:20.329 -->
01:00:21.047Thank you for that.
01:00:21.047 -->
01:00:22.079Elizabeth Appreciate it.
01:00:22.079 -->
01:00:23.405You can ask a question if you want.
01:00:23.405 -->
01:00:26.849Carolyn also sent us this super sticker.
01:00:26.869 -->
01:00:28.764Nice, they don't have questions.
01:00:28.764 -->
01:00:31.184I know, let's see if we can.
01:00:31.264 -->
01:00:34.012Actually, if you want, we can look.
01:00:34.012 -->
01:00:36.431Is there anything else we need to talk about for the film?
01:00:36.431 -->
01:00:37.423I can't think of anything.
01:00:37.865 -->
01:00:38.367I don't know.
01:00:38.367 -->
01:00:41.789I mean, the film was this particular production.
01:00:41.789 -->
01:00:53.824Once we got through the whole air flight thing, blah, blah, blah, it was relatively uneventful compared to, let's say, the next film we're going to talk about, where we almost killed people.
01:00:55.621 -->
01:00:57.456Well, the one person?
01:00:57.456 -->
01:01:00.900Yeah, but then which film are you talking about?
01:01:01.059 -->
01:01:05.255I'm talking about the, the tier 14, which I think you do.
01:01:05.255 -->
01:01:06.481Oh, yeah, because we were.
01:01:06.481 -->
01:01:09.523That was the one we were shooting in hell with real fire.
01:01:09.523 -->
01:01:27.403Yes and the puppeteer, or the puppeteer who was working in the devil's tail, and so he was up in the greens, up in the scaffolding, on a studio, probably 60 feet off the ground, on a two foot wide board, and it was so about 120 degrees up there, and he fell asleep and he almost rolled off.
01:01:27.925 -->
01:01:28.385Yes.
01:01:28.867 -->
01:01:33.842Or I'm laughing, but anyway, yeah, so yeah, we had a lot of stories from that one we do.
01:01:34.820 -->
01:01:36.666Ok, if you do have a question.
01:01:36.666 -->
01:01:38.724Oh, there's ICCC.
01:01:38.724 -->
01:01:41.987My friend CC Clare did a video with her.
01:01:41.987 -->
01:01:43.463She's sort of like my.
01:01:43.463 -->
01:01:49.186My boys adopted grandmother CC's comfort cooking.
01:01:49.186 -->
01:01:50.847She has a YouTube channel on SPTV.
01:01:51.239 -->
01:01:54.664Hi everybody from Hannibal Missouri, cc's comfort cooking.
01:01:54.664 -->
01:01:58.842Anybody who hasn't subscribed to CC's channel, she get over there too.
01:01:58.842 -->
01:01:59.802Thank you, cc.
01:01:59.802 -->
01:02:03.166Hi there, ok, if you, let's just see.
01:02:03.166 -->
01:02:03.983I don't see.
01:02:03.983 -->
01:02:10.827Usually, if you have a question, people put in question before it, and so I don't see a lot of those.
01:02:10.827 -->
01:02:25.646So I mean we are really really deep in the Scientology weeds with these videos, but you know a lot of people that aren't in the film industry or aren't in the TV or Hollywood or whatever, and weren't in Scientology.
01:02:25.646 -->
01:02:27.043This is all new stuff to them.
01:02:27.043 -->
01:02:28.027So there you go.
01:02:28.248 -->
01:02:29.681Whatever, yeah also.
01:02:29.681 -->
01:02:40.211I mean I really can't stress enough, going back to talking about solo auditing itself how, what an incredible, massive scam this is.
01:02:40.211 -->
01:02:56.048I mean it's getting people to audit themselves, getting people to pay like a lot of money to just go into a room or at home for hours and hours and hours to do this and then present that to people like it was some solution to them not having to go to England.
01:02:56.048 -->
01:02:57.385That's really all it was.
01:02:57.385 -->
01:03:02.025It's pretty amazing, the whole aspect of it.
01:03:02.659 -->
01:03:04.306Yeah, and I think you're right.
01:03:04.306 -->
01:03:12.822I think they you would audit if you when you get to well, the place where you do this solo auditing is after you learn about.
01:03:12.822 -->
01:03:26.456Zinu and the body that is my favorite rock band, yeah when you, when you learn about Zinu and you learn about the body that is, after you do all that, you then are supposed to audit yourself and get rid of all these body things.
01:03:26.456 -->
01:03:27.460Right, you got to talk to them.
01:03:27.460 -->
01:03:30.827Clarivoyal, yeah, but this goes on for years, guys.
01:03:30.940 -->
01:03:32.907Yeah like you could spend that.
01:03:32.907 -->
01:03:48.409I mean, there's people in Scientology right now who've been doing this for 10, 15, 20 years and you do it yourself and you're supposed to do it several times a day and you have a briefcase and you got to lock it up.
01:03:48.409 -->
01:04:04.467And you got to lock up your folder that you keep all your notes in, but every six months, for however long you do it, if it's 20 years, every six months you have to do what's called a sixth month check and so you say I'm auditing, I'm auditing.
01:04:04.467 -->
01:04:11.811Well, every six months, you got to basically turn in all your documentation that you have been doing this auditing.
01:04:11.980 -->
01:04:15.646Yeah, you have to go to Clearwater to do it right, you have to go to Clearwater, florida.
01:04:15.646 -->
01:04:21.246That's this place they call the Flag Land Base, or FLB, or Clearwater, whatever.
01:04:21.246 -->
01:04:26.030You go there and then they interview you on the meter.
01:04:26.030 -->
01:04:28.472You're not doing anything solo.
01:04:28.472 -->
01:04:28.916When you get, there.
01:04:28.936 -->
01:04:29.340Well, I interview you.
01:04:29.340 -->
01:04:34.509That's a nice way of putting it, Mark, that's why you basically get the good old scrub down.
01:04:34.509 -->
01:04:36.387You have to see if there's any.
01:04:36.519 -->
01:04:41.188If there's a speck of dirt on you, then you need to pay for them to clean up that dirt.
01:04:41.188 -->
01:04:42.123Oh, big time.
01:04:42.123 -->
01:05:11.050And if you haven't been auditing as much as you're supposed to, or maybe you told your significant other about the body fatins, or like they're asking you all this stuff because they got to keep the wraps on this whole Zee News story, which to me, which now to me, seems very I mean, they have a very, very intricate security system to keep the Zee News stuff private and confidential.
01:05:11.050 -->
01:05:19.431But you can just go on the internet and go to a Southpac episode and you'll find out pretty much the 90% of the story with nothing.
01:05:19.431 -->
01:05:22.548So I'm not sure what they're keeping secret anymore.
01:05:22.548 -->
01:05:42.630But regardless, that is this solo auditor film, and the solo auditor course is what you have to do in order to start auditing and addressing these tens of thousands of space aliens that are stuck to you.
01:05:42.679 -->
01:05:43.844I never got rid of them all.
01:05:43.844 -->
01:05:46.882I actually started to become real friendly with them after a while.
01:05:48.222 -->
01:05:51.268Oh, I was hanging out with Zee News the other night because Zee News is my homeboy.
01:05:51.268 -->
01:05:54.322Right, right you can go to the Blum4Good store and get Zee News as my homeboy.
01:05:54.322 -->
01:05:56.528Mugs, stickers, hats and hoodies.
01:05:56.548 -->
01:05:57.802Yeah, go now, don't wait.
01:05:58.780 -->
01:06:12.045But when I was hanging out with Zee News the other day he said he's got plans to make a whole bunch of more body things because the planet of his, or solar system or whatever, was overpopulated.
01:06:12.045 -->
01:06:19.688It's not like they're getting rid of all those souls solved, it just kind of kept it at bay.
01:06:19.940 -->
01:06:21.567Yeah, you know, he never counted on immigration.
01:06:21.567 -->
01:06:22.945Immigration is what killed them.
01:06:22.945 -->
01:06:27.155Well, from other star systems, they had all these people in there.
01:06:27.639 -->
01:06:35.288It's just saying once the Intergalactic Federation changed ownership or whatever changed management.
01:06:35.719 -->
01:06:37.568Things have just gone to shit in the universe.
01:06:37.568 -->
01:06:38.302Yeah, totally.
01:06:38.302 -->
01:06:39.824Hey, can you?
01:06:39.824 -->
01:06:40.606There's a question?
01:06:40.606 -->
01:06:46.141Let me see if I can find it OK from Andy Fabulous, yeah you can start it here.
01:06:46.141 -->
01:06:47.025Let me start right now.
01:06:47.065 -->
01:06:47.405There you go.
01:06:47.405 -->
01:06:50.664If you just start which ones you want to pick up, then I can just pull those up.
01:06:50.925 -->
01:06:51.306My start.
01:06:51.306 -->
01:06:51.949I can't start.
01:06:51.949 -->
01:06:53.021What brand of is it?
01:06:53.043 -->
01:06:54.224the brand of liqueur.
01:06:54.224 -->
01:06:55.148Does Zee News drink?
01:06:56.170 -->
01:06:59.266Yeah, ok, andy, fabulous the brand of beer slash liquor.
01:06:59.306 -->
01:07:00.048does Zee News drink?
01:07:00.048 -->
01:07:01.385That's an interesting question.
01:07:01.679 -->
01:07:05.869Probably, I would think, german beer would say something.
01:07:06.351 -->
01:07:06.913I'll find out.
01:07:06.913 -->
01:07:12.429You can research the yeah, or we could just make one up and then tell everybody that that's the one.
01:07:12.429 -->
01:07:22.835Yeah, so Andy back it does have to have some sort of semblance to the answer, so it can't just be like oh he likes Tito's we got to make a good backstory?
01:07:23.016 -->
01:07:23.458Yeah, exactly.
01:07:23.599 -->
01:07:28.447Glycol, probably glycol and something else, because that's what he is when he throws those guys.
01:07:29.380 -->
01:07:30.987He had a lot of glycol on hand.
01:07:31.059 -->
01:07:33.286So whatever we put, it's got to have some glycol.
01:07:33.306 -->
01:07:37.289Yeah, ok, so check this out Back, for I'm going to work on that immediately.
01:07:37.289 -->
01:07:39.025We'll have the beer.
01:07:39.025 -->
01:07:41.768We'll have that answer when we do the next film.
01:07:41.768 -->
01:07:44.686We'll probably even have an illustration of it.
01:07:45.307 -->
01:07:46.844Yeah, was there a number I?
01:07:46.885 -->
01:07:48.967have to Andy Fabulous in 404.
01:07:48.967 -->
01:07:51.065He just asked a question.
01:07:51.065 -->
01:07:53.146It's no variety.
01:07:54.320 -->
01:07:57.585OK, good, I'll go to it, yeah because I can't star.
01:07:57.920 -->
01:08:00.228Next time you need to give me that extra.
01:08:00.699 -->
01:08:02.023Yeah, I don't know how that works.
01:08:02.365 -->
01:08:03.228I'll have to ask Aaron.
01:08:03.228 -->
01:08:04.943He knows he's got all the insight.
01:08:06.900 -->
01:08:07.945I think the share.
01:08:07.945 -->
01:08:10.385Yeah, I'm at 404.
01:08:10.385 -->
01:08:11.349I'm just looking, you see.
01:08:11.429 -->
01:08:11.889Andy Fabulous.
01:08:11.889 -->
01:08:14.146He had a question, mitch, did you need to study?
01:08:14.146 -->
01:08:16.506This is a really interesting question.
01:08:16.506 -->
01:08:17.925It has a very simple answer.
01:08:18.520 -->
01:08:20.265I think it's on your channel, so I can't see.
01:08:20.728 -->
01:08:21.088Oh really.
01:08:21.088 -->
01:08:22.444Ok so, but I can't click on it.
01:08:22.444 -->
01:08:22.867It doesn't go.
01:08:22.867 -->
01:08:25.106But anyway, the question is, I can't show it.
01:08:25.106 -->
01:08:33.310The question is, mitch, did you need to stay up on human psychology in order to make a film that could capture a person into brainwashing themselves?
01:08:33.310 -->
01:08:39.283The answer to that is no, because I had Elron Hubbard as my co-pilot.
01:08:39.283 -->
01:08:42.703He did all that heavy lifting For me.
01:08:42.703 -->
01:08:44.908I just had to make it look good.
01:08:44.908 -->
01:09:08.831So, no, I did not have to know anything about human psychology, although I did know a lot about human psychology, and the Church of Scientology would be shocked at how much Eastern philosophy and research psychology I drew upon for writing their television ads, because I couldn't find anything that Hubbard wrote that was worth using to inspire for an ad.
01:09:08.831 -->
01:09:10.487So anyway, that's the answer.
01:09:10.487 -->
01:09:11.664He did all that stuff.
01:09:11.664 -->
01:09:13.143I just put a nice.
01:09:13.143 -->
01:09:19.661What we did, me and Mark, we just put the shit on tapes or we made it into films or we.
01:09:19.661 -->
01:09:23.289But we didn't have to jack all about psychology.
01:09:23.289 -->
01:09:26.073Psychology wasn't even a thing, right?
01:09:26.119 -->
01:09:27.002Yeah, I don't need.
01:09:27.002 -->
01:09:32.890I mean, I haven't even read Dianetics, so you didn't have to be versed in Scientology.
01:09:32.960 -->
01:09:38.532Although I had to read it four times under stop-o supervision, he did.
01:09:39.220 -->
01:09:44.760But I'm just saying, in order for me to do my job, I just needed to be a good worker, I didn't need to know anything.
01:09:44.760 -->
01:09:46.747Yeah, you were lucky, mark, you were lucky.
01:09:47.159 -->
01:09:49.427You've got to keep most of your identity.
01:09:49.427 -->
01:09:50.926It's one of the things I admire about you.
01:09:50.926 -->
01:09:57.251You've got to keep most of your identity intact and your resilience and just develop good work ethic.
01:09:57.251 -->
01:10:00.047I mean, you're like in that way.
01:10:00.047 -->
01:10:01.220I think you're that's true.
01:10:01.220 -->
01:10:03.007In that way, I think you're fortunate.
01:10:03.007 -->
01:10:05.106And there's a few people like that.
01:10:05.106 -->
01:10:09.221I think Sterling is like that as well, sterling Tompkins yeah, he's like.
01:10:09.221 -->
01:10:21.286There were a number of people, and they're like, who joined the Sea Org and they were more Sea Org workers and they were Scientologists and so Scientology didn't really have a real chance to dump its stink on them.
01:10:21.840 -->
01:10:23.627Yeah, you know, I think you're really right.
01:10:23.627 -->
01:10:25.445I was trying to think of another person like that.
01:10:25.445 -->
01:10:26.028I think you're right.
01:10:26.028 -->
01:10:27.342Sterling is another one of those.
01:10:27.403 -->
01:10:28.685He grew up in there there's a few.
01:10:28.806 -->
01:10:30.390There's a few, but he was really just working.
01:10:30.390 -->
01:10:31.643He never.
01:10:31.643 -->
01:10:32.024Really I want to.
01:10:32.164 -->
01:10:32.445I don't.
01:10:32.445 -->
01:10:34.766I heard him talking about it today.
01:10:34.766 -->
01:10:36.182He didn't do Jack all the time.
01:10:36.243 -->
01:10:36.645Oh, he didn't.
01:10:36.645 -->
01:10:37.667Okay, I didn't know.
01:10:37.667 -->
01:10:40.104I don't want to say, oh, he didn't do Jack all and he's like dude.
01:10:40.104 -->
01:10:41.420I spent seven years studying.
01:10:41.420 -->
01:10:42.213He was talking to.
01:10:42.234 -->
01:10:47.387Aaron today and he's like I did this and my student hat was just like as far as he got, oh yeah.
01:10:47.779 -->
01:10:50.798So he's a green weenie too, and it comes all the brainwashing.
01:10:50.840 -->
01:10:51.381He's just not.
01:10:51.381 -->
01:10:59.203He's unadulterated, with all that that crazy shit that just you just here.
01:10:59.203 -->
01:11:01.703Let me take my identity and I'll rip it out.
01:11:01.703 -->
01:11:03.585Okay, you can take that.
01:11:03.585 -->
01:11:05.166Let me take this one and I'll just.
01:11:05.166 -->
01:11:06.302Oh, yeah, I'll take this one.
01:11:06.302 -->
01:11:08.427Okay, yeah, I have body things.
01:11:08.427 -->
01:11:11.015That's who I am, and you're like what?
01:11:11.015 -->
01:11:12.463You just lose your identity.
01:11:13.460 -->
01:11:16.264Okay, here's a good one, John Satowski.
01:11:16.264 -->
01:11:17.027Thank you for that, john.
01:11:17.027 -->
01:11:20.509Did Mitch do cameo walk through like Hitchcock?
01:11:20.509 -->
01:11:22.204You know, I don't think you were.
01:11:22.720 -->
01:11:24.608I don't remember you ever being in one film.
01:11:24.608 -->
01:11:25.582Which one?
01:11:25.582 -->
01:11:29.188No, I did no, you were in it.
01:11:29.188 -->
01:11:34.168We were both in a film together, in the doll film with Danny Masterson.
01:11:34.400 -->
01:11:35.203Oh, yes, okay.
01:11:35.720 -->
01:11:36.704I ran down the stairs.
01:11:36.704 -->
01:11:39.805I needed there was a shot just feet running on the stairs.
01:11:39.805 -->
01:11:44.266Yes, it was supposed to be one particular character and the guy was not a good.
01:11:44.266 -->
01:11:48.666I needed a person to shuffle down the stairs and I had an exact visual image of it.
01:11:48.666 -->
01:11:56.747Yeah, and we did like 50 takes and I said I grabbed the guy, dragged him to wardrobe, I took his costume off and then I just ran down.
01:11:56.747 -->
01:11:59.488I shuffled down the stairs the way I wanted it to be.
01:11:59.488 -->
01:12:01.506But that was like my big cameo.
01:12:01.506 -->
01:12:03.327I did it in the way to happiness films.
01:12:03.327 -->
01:12:04.222I did a full on.
01:12:04.965 -->
01:12:06.029but that was years later.
01:12:06.520 -->
01:12:07.184That's whatever.
01:12:07.184 -->
01:12:12.466It's not a tech film, so it's not special, because only the tech films are special.
01:12:12.525 -->
01:12:19.220Yeah, gary Jackson Moorhead says I have the deets and info on the water and test sites back there.
01:12:19.220 -->
01:12:21.868He's talking about the secret government facility.
01:12:21.868 -->
01:12:23.002No machine guns.
01:12:23.002 -->
01:12:25.087Machine guns what, oh man?
01:12:25.568 -->
01:12:27.072No, that's a bummer.
01:12:27.340 -->
01:12:28.905Well, yeah, so that's the thing.
01:12:28.905 -->
01:12:33.722Maybe these people that went up there and said they were machine guns, maybe they were just.
01:12:33.722 -->
01:12:35.427Maybe they brought them.
01:12:35.427 -->
01:12:35.949I don't know.
01:12:35.949 -->
01:12:41.449I don't know where the machine guns ever came from, but there were Lockheed security that were up there.
01:12:41.449 -->
01:12:42.864I don't know about the guns part.
01:12:42.864 -->
01:12:48.345They might have been intermittent machine guns Might have been when they were up to stuff.
01:12:48.881 -->
01:12:50.963They said oh Jackson's coming, put the machine guns away.
01:12:52.079 -->
01:12:53.426Remember the movie Heaven Can Wait.
01:12:53.426 -->
01:12:55.648Mitch should do a movie called Scientology.
01:12:55.648 -->
01:12:56.845Can Wait for LRH.
01:12:57.340 -->
01:12:58.966Yeah, I got better things to do.
01:12:58.966 -->
01:12:59.649What would that be?
01:12:59.760 -->
01:13:04.747That would be like I don't know, I think somebody should do a Zee New thing.
01:13:04.747 -->
01:13:12.488It would be amazing If you knew the whole Zee New story and this is sort of my argument for Scientologists.
01:13:12.488 -->
01:13:20.509Okay, let's pretend the Zee New thing is 100% true and Hubbard nailed it Right.
01:13:20.509 -->
01:13:37.784If there is a space alien capable of interdimensional travel that spent nine weeks at light speed to bring billions and billions of people from his solar system to our solar system and that's a real thing, yeah, in DC-9s.
01:13:37.784 -->
01:13:41.890In DC-9s that had space jets instead of propellers.
01:13:42.100 -->
01:13:43.198Well they look like DC-9s, but they weren't.
01:13:43.239 -->
01:13:43.721This is what.
01:13:43.761 -->
01:13:55.010Hubbard said in the thing that the space planes that Lord Zee New used for intergalactic travel they look like DC-9s.
01:13:55.010 -->
01:13:59.809Is that a McDonald Douglas plane, a DC-9?
01:14:00.100 -->
01:14:01.466I believe so a Boeing.
01:14:01.466 -->
01:14:02.863No, I think it's Boeing, boeing.
01:14:02.863 -->
01:14:03.979Okay, so Boeing and International.
01:14:03.979 -->
01:14:04.662I went to our school.
01:14:04.662 -->
01:14:05.646I don't know about that.
01:14:06.020 -->
01:14:09.911International galactic dictator used the same manufacturer.
01:14:09.911 -->
01:14:12.444Who would have known, anyway?
01:14:12.444 -->
01:14:21.029If all that is true, then why would Scientology put all their trust in a guy named Dave to protect them from all that?
01:14:21.029 -->
01:14:23.198He doesn't have anything, that Zee news guy.
01:14:23.238 -->
01:14:23.479No.
01:14:23.920 -->
01:14:27.972I'm just saying if it's all real Zee news, my homeboy, I'm signing up with him.
01:14:27.972 -->
01:14:31.603He's got some some cool tech or not, who knows.
01:14:31.603 -->
01:14:34.077Okay, here's the Zee new cocktail.
01:14:34.077 -->
01:14:34.698It's already done.
01:14:34.698 -->
01:14:41.127John Satowski says the Zee new cocktails Ram, vodka, tequila, gin and whiskey.
01:14:41.127 -->
01:14:41.649On the rocks.
01:14:41.649 -->
01:14:44.940You will feel like you were hit with the hydrogen bomb.
01:14:45.930 -->
01:14:55.636Wow, I'm telling you the the fan contribution here is I'm not sure if you can get a Zee new cocktail.
01:14:55.636 -->
01:14:57.238It can have to use a little of all.
01:14:57.238 -->
01:15:02.318I like rum and I like vodka, tequila, gin and whiskey.
01:15:02.318 -->
01:15:03.493I'm not.
01:15:05.171 -->
01:15:14.697No, if you, if you, if you put some some kind of a Like a mixer yeah, like a mixer.
01:15:14.756 -->
01:15:25.680Like a like a like a citrusy mixer yeah, like a ginger ale, or maybe lemon juice or a lime juice, I think this could work could do the Zee new mule Maybe you can make a Zee new mule.
01:15:25.720 -->
01:15:27.369We could just do this one time, mark.
01:15:27.369 -->
01:15:32.682We could just get all the ingredients out and just do a Zee new mix ology session where we try different.
01:15:33.190 -->
01:15:37.363Market Mitch, make a mix, it make a drink, make a Zee new cocktail.
01:15:37.363 -->
01:15:39.130Anyway, let's work on this one.
01:15:39.130 -->
01:15:47.822I like the bones of it, john, but let's just, we got a, we got a workshop, but I'm not just gonna say this is it, but it could be, I don't know, we have to try it.
01:15:47.822 -->
01:15:51.984Okay, let's you think we should show this document.
01:15:52.003 -->
01:15:56.743Oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah, okay, absolutely, yeah, guys.
01:15:56.984 -->
01:15:58.009Let me just set this up.
01:15:58.009 -->
01:16:02.260So we're talking about these films that we were shooting.
01:16:02.260 -->
01:16:06.073Well, a lot of times there would be these events.
01:16:06.073 -->
01:16:09.903We've talked about gold putting on these Scientology events.
01:16:09.903 -->
01:16:15.300Dca is a McDonald Douglas, by the way thank you very much for that.
01:16:15.460 -->
01:16:16.082Thank you guys.
01:16:16.082 -->
01:16:20.100Thank you for my all my aerospace knowledge is paying off.
01:16:20.100 -->
01:16:34.121So we would shoot these events or shoot these films and then sometimes David Miscavige would release them at an event and Most of the people that worked on the films of the videos would also work on the events.
01:16:34.121 -->
01:16:36.916So there was a sort of a mixed crew.
01:16:36.916 -->
01:16:42.216But to put on the event was also its own Production in in its own right.
01:16:42.216 -->
01:16:46.515It could take months and months To put together one of these events.
01:16:46.515 -->
01:16:49.734In terms of the content of the event, there was a stage.
01:16:49.734 -->
01:16:59.506So the sets and props guys that built of the, the sets and the props for the films, would also have to build the sets and props for the event.
01:16:59.707 -->
01:17:02.176And yeah, let me ask you, mark, how long were these events?
01:17:03.831 -->
01:17:05.317What do you mean it in the length?
01:17:05.317 -->
01:17:05.939Like what?
01:17:05.939 -->
01:17:07.304How could any be?
01:17:07.304 -->
01:17:09.130Usually would be anywhere from two to three hours.
01:17:10.033 -->
01:17:11.862Was not not a small little thing.
01:17:12.243 -->
01:17:15.175No, it was a lot of content, it was a lot of production.
01:17:15.175 -->
01:17:20.729And David Miscavige, he wanted the same production value that he was getting out of the films.
01:17:20.729 -->
01:17:30.658He wanted the same or better for these events and and that is why the same guys who shot the Super Bowl Were the guys that shot these events.
01:17:30.658 -->
01:17:46.264So, or set up the broadcast truck and, yeah, tuned all the cameras up and did the audio and the and the live, like, okay, go camera 2 and Set camera 3 and take camera 3, you know, like the guy directing the videoing of this event.
01:17:46.264 -->
01:18:04.429And so One of these events could have a hundred people that had to work on it to put it on, and if the event went badly, then those hundred people were now in the shit and they would Be like for them until the next event.
01:18:04.429 -->
01:18:09.689They'd basically be in trouble until they were redeemed on the next event.
01:18:09.689 -->
01:18:23.083Or if they did so badly, then they were off the event crew and they would get moved into the grounds department to, you know, molons or trim trees or run in the sidewalks, or they just get put on something that had nothing to do with anything.
01:18:23.083 -->
01:18:27.621So if you, we did one of these events and it went well.
01:18:28.930 -->
01:18:31.737That was a rare occurrence, it was actually.
01:18:31.737 -->
01:18:36.914It was actually like there were seven, depending on the year.
01:18:36.914 -->
01:18:49.698There's anywhere from six to ten of these events a year and Sometimes David, miss Gavage, would just decide that we weren't gonna do a certain event, or we would do a certain event and it'd be even bigger than we normally do.
01:18:49.698 -->
01:18:50.662So it could go either way.
01:18:50.662 -->
01:19:01.614But one of the events that we'd go to in England was called the IAS event, the International Association of Scientologists biggest money-making event of the year.
01:19:01.614 -->
01:19:13.923They they could make anywhere from 20 to 50 to a hundred million dollars at One of these events, because they what they would do is the events that took place in America throughout the year.
01:19:13.923 -->
01:19:15.975They would hit these people up.
01:19:15.975 -->
01:19:31.506At every single one of those events They'd hit up a bunch of people, but at the IAS event only the richest, most Dedicated members from all over the world are sort of invited to this event.
01:19:31.787 -->
01:19:32.829Yeah and yeah.
01:19:32.829 -->
01:19:53.198And they got showcased right like, for example you hear about these IAS, the membership, whatever, I forget what they're going to patron yeah so if you were, if you earn one of these statuses, then it would be announced at this IAS event you, you get a, you'd get a, called out for it.
01:19:53.198 -->
01:19:56.048So this was a big deal in Scientology culture.
01:19:56.069 -->
01:20:04.765I'm Go ahead and if you gave like there's different statuses, but right ones that get you a picture with out with David miscavige.
01:20:04.765 -->
01:20:08.421They start in the hundreds or millions of dollars to get.
01:20:08.421 -->
01:20:08.721Yeah.
01:20:09.671 -->
01:20:19.957Yeah, and this was the event where Tom Cruise famously got the dinner plate size award, the flavor Flav, yeah, the flavor of Scientology award.
01:20:20.439 -->
01:20:23.265Yeah, this is a big this, this particular event.
01:20:23.265 -->
01:20:27.078Like Mark said earlier, we there'd be a certain number of events.
01:20:27.078 -->
01:20:30.609Maybe they do some, maybe they wouldn't, but there were these tentpole events.
01:20:30.609 -->
01:20:39.103They'd always do New Year's, elvin Hubbard's birthday, the anniversary of the Freedwin ship and the IAS.
01:20:39.103 -->
01:20:40.729These were always be done.
01:20:40.729 -->
01:20:48.203And then there may be a dianetic celebration, an auditor day, there may be other ones, but always these are IAS.
01:20:48.203 -->
01:20:49.710That's a big deal.
01:20:49.710 -->
01:20:53.779I mean they kid, they hire the, the, the royal caterer.
01:20:53.779 -->
01:20:56.224I mean they do like crazy stuff.
01:20:56.930 -->
01:21:01.582Yeah well, the so of an event we would put on for IAS.
01:21:01.582 -->
01:21:24.144That's about a million dollars Scientology would spend, and so Scientology, the Church of Scientology International, would spend money to make things for that event, and and the IAS, the International Associations of Scientologists International, would would bear the brunt of the major portion of that budget.
01:21:24.144 -->
01:21:35.229And they had a Dictate that the maximum of money that could be spent was would be the interest on their, on their earnings of their investments.
01:21:35.229 -->
01:21:42.452They could not spend well more on a budget than what they're making on the interest of their that's amazing.
01:21:42.492 -->
01:21:43.395I did not know that.
01:21:43.876 -->
01:21:50.335Yeah, so the so we would always, and they would calculate out how much they needed for the year based on Whatever they were making.
01:21:50.335 -->
01:21:52.713Somebody somewhere had an exact figure.
01:21:52.713 -->
01:21:57.242So when we would do one of these events, they'd already went before we'd start.
01:21:57.242 -->
01:22:04.166They'd say you have 987 thousand dollars and 42 cents to spend on this event.
01:22:04.166 -->
01:22:07.132If you go over, you're spending the money.
01:22:07.132 -->
01:22:19.130So if you go over, scientology Church of Scientology International will have to pay for anything that goes over, and so the IAS and and Dave would, and Dave would brag all the time.
01:22:19.130 -->
01:22:27.244I'm only spending a million dollars on this event and I'm making anywhere from 50 to a hundred times that on the event.
01:22:27.244 -->
01:22:33.833So they'd bring in all these big wigs and all these whales from all over Europe and From the United States.
01:22:33.833 -->
01:22:34.836People would come there.
01:22:35.296 -->
01:22:44.243If you gave a certain amount, you'd get announced, and if you gave us One of these big, heavy-hitter amounts, then you would often get us.
01:22:44.243 -->
01:22:50.277You'd get to go up on stage with David Miss Gavage and he would stand with you and you'd get a.
01:22:50.277 -->
01:22:55.817You basically get a photo op with David Miss Gavage, right right in the Scientology world.
01:22:55.817 -->
01:23:02.994If you go, if we go, if I go into your house and you have a picture of you on Stage with David Miss Gavage up on the wall.
01:23:02.994 -->
01:23:03.917Your site.
01:23:03.917 -->
01:23:05.561You might as well be Scientology royalty.
01:23:06.051 -->
01:23:06.932Yeah, and your trophy.
01:23:06.932 -->
01:23:08.836You get your insane bowling trophy.
01:23:09.337 -->
01:23:11.421Yes and the trophies would cost.
01:23:11.421 -->
01:23:14.313We would produce these Trophies in Los Angeles.
01:23:14.313 -->
01:23:22.735It's actually we're produced at a place I think it's called Hollywood trophy, off of Western, but some of these trophies would be, you know, 400 bucks.
01:23:22.735 -->
01:23:35.018500 bucks for a $40,000 Donation or a hundred thousand donation, when these guys are donating millions and millions of dollars they got diamonds 20 30 Thousand dollars on a trophy for them.
01:23:35.037 -->
01:23:46.001Yeah, like yeah, 30 thousand dollars on a trophy, and we've already seen One of those from one particular unfortunate individual end up on eBay and oh, they're all over the place.
01:23:46.082 -->
01:23:47.283Mike's got one in his office.
01:23:47.283 -->
01:23:51.222Yeah, but yeah, cuz the Richie a kuto one.
01:23:51.262 -->
01:23:52.006Oh, he did he get.
01:23:52.006 -->
01:23:52.970That's the one I'm talking about.
01:23:53.533 -->
01:23:57.095Oh, I'm pretty sure it's at Mike's house, that one was for?
01:23:57.155 -->
01:24:00.869yeah, yeah, I think I read that the person of body sent it over to Mike cuz he should have it.
01:24:00.869 -->
01:24:06.011Yeah, I think I think Richard Kuto had given I Can't.
01:24:06.011 -->
01:24:07.976I think it was 10 million dollars.
01:24:08.176 -->
01:24:09.640Yeah, I want to say it was tens of millions he.
01:24:09.640 -->
01:24:15.177Eventually he passed right but he did go back before he passed away.
01:24:15.278 -->
01:24:16.539Yeah, and he had.
01:24:16.539 -->
01:24:17.280He had his.
01:24:17.280 -->
01:24:25.345All of his swag was in a one of these Storage storage, you know, and then he never paid.
01:24:25.345 -->
01:24:27.532He couldn't afford to pay the bill, so it got sold on.
01:24:27.532 -->
01:24:33.863Like you know, container wars like one of those kind of operations where the people bid on them.
01:24:35.390 -->
01:24:38.921Mark Fisher said does mark realize the Z new cocktail is still on screen?
01:24:38.921 -->
01:24:42.413Hell yeah it was just living down there by itself and it wasn't bothering us.
01:24:42.715 -->
01:24:46.135Yeah, hell, yeah, yeah, hey, mark, hi mark.
01:24:48.354 -->
01:24:49.970Yes, hello mark Fisher in the house.
01:24:49.970 -->
01:24:55.113Um so Sorry excuse me.
01:24:55.113 -->
01:25:00.220So the IAS event was this major, major moneymaker.
01:25:00.220 -->
01:25:17.989Well, the document that we have to show you tonight is from that event and, miraculously, and and I don't know if there is one other document in all of Scientology that was published to the entire international headquarters that has Mitch's name on it and my name on it.
01:25:17.989 -->
01:25:20.636That's a well except maybe some knowledge reports.
01:25:20.695 -->
01:25:24.323Well, no, no, but I'm saying that went to everybody, that everybody got to see.
01:25:24.323 -->
01:25:26.015That's true, that's true.
01:25:26.015 -->
01:25:34.912But also, yeah, this was from a time when, well, you're gonna explain what it is, but this type of Document is very special.
01:25:34.912 -->
01:25:36.375It didn't happen very much.
01:25:36.375 -->
01:25:38.099Yes, today doesn't.
01:25:38.099 -->
01:25:41.244For the last 15 years hasn't happened at all.
01:25:42.091 -->
01:25:42.956Yeah, okay.
01:25:42.956 -->
01:25:45.466So let me put it up, let me make sure we can get our little.
01:25:45.466 -->
01:25:49.317I got another, I got another one that kind of will do both of us big here.
01:25:49.317 -->
01:25:52.663There we go, okay, so I don't know if you can read it.
01:25:52.663 -->
01:25:55.256It's not the biggest thing in the world.
01:25:55.256 -->
01:25:59.189I'm putting it up there and I'm gonna pull up another copy of it here.
01:25:59.189 -->
01:26:02.512Sorry, I didn't have this all Set up beforehand.
01:26:02.512 -->
01:26:03.774Okay, perfect, okay.
01:26:03.774 -->
01:26:18.533So I've got another copy of it here and it says executive directive anything that is Issued to the property, it's called some sort of executive and this would be from the office of Idiot no witness.
01:26:18.875 -->
01:26:21.524No, no, this is an executive directive, just oh.
01:26:21.524 -->
01:26:23.189It can come from any executive.
01:26:23.530 -->
01:26:24.895Oh, that's just from gold.
01:26:24.954 -->
01:26:30.216Yeah, okay, yes, this one is a gold Executive, right, so you would.
01:26:30.216 -->
01:26:31.340You would assume it was written.
01:26:31.340 -->
01:26:32.061We'll get to the bottom.
01:26:32.061 -->
01:26:34.274I don't remember who wrote it is probably Jason Bennett or something.
01:26:34.274 -->
01:26:41.595Yeah, it was, it was cuz yeah it was so it says executive directive gold Ed 2337.
01:26:41.595 -->
01:26:46.173There were three thousand 336 of these before this one.
01:26:46.194 -->
01:26:49.180No, I think they're not always good to make it look good.
01:26:49.680 -->
01:26:50.341I don't think so.
01:26:50.341 -->
01:26:51.024They didn't do that.
01:26:51.024 -->
01:26:54.833Okay, it says all it says.
01:26:54.833 -->
01:27:05.296Gold ed 3337, 20 October 1994, all base crew commendation IAS 10th anniversary event.
01:27:05.296 -->
01:27:12.414The IAS 10th anniversary event was held this year at LRH's home, st Hill Manor in the UK.
01:27:12.414 -->
01:27:15.342The event was a tremendous success.
01:27:15.342 -->
01:27:25.643Public in attendance strongly stated that they could and should be doing much more to contribute Towards all aspects of Scientology expansion.
01:27:25.884 -->
01:27:26.868Yeah, that's the mark.
01:27:26.868 -->
01:27:29.479Yeah, Go ahead, go ahead.
01:27:29.479 -->
01:27:31.568No, I was gonna say that's the marker of success.
01:27:31.908 -->
01:27:33.493Yes, that's how they measure success.
01:27:33.935 -->
01:27:37.162Did the people who attend feel they were not doing enough?
01:27:37.510 -->
01:27:39.713Exactly, that is the that you know.
01:27:39.713 -->
01:27:52.682If you watch that Tom Cruise crazy video of him getting the award right in the end, you will see that his message is 100% aligned with David Miscavige's message.
01:27:53.184 -->
01:27:58.881Yeah, which is if you Are watching this, you're not doing enough.
01:27:58.881 -->
01:27:59.811You're in.
01:27:59.811 -->
01:28:04.394If you're in Scientology and you're watching us right now, you're not doing enough.
01:28:04.394 -->
01:28:09.329Look at all these other people and what they're doing and how you're not doing anything.
01:28:09.329 -->
01:28:12.340That's, that's, your takeaway from the event.
01:28:12.340 -->
01:28:19.420Okay, gold was quite instrumental in producing this result from the event.
01:28:19.420 -->
01:28:21.863Properties produced quite instrumental.
01:28:22.091 -->
01:28:23.635They made the whole entire thing.
01:28:23.635 -->
01:28:24.898What the hell is that?
01:28:25.319 -->
01:28:37.594Well, to be fair, international management are responsible for the events and golden era productions is just a tiny little piece of that, and also because the IAS paid for it.
01:28:37.594 -->
01:28:43.634This is, there's a little bit of political, interpolitical Seagorg.
01:28:43.634 -->
01:28:49.630Speak in here to not make it look like gold did all the work, even though right gold did all the work.
01:28:49.890 -->
01:28:56.056Yeah, I called it that gold was quite instrumental in producing this Result from the event properties produced.
01:28:56.056 -->
01:29:07.261That just means the content that was shown at the event all the way through to the event itself being a success, because gold lit and produced and filmed and did set the props up and everything else.
01:29:07.261 -->
01:29:23.609As a result, the following accommodations are issued now in the Seagorg If you do something really, really good and you're commended, that's great, but if you're highly commended, you might even be able to take a day off.
01:29:23.689 -->
01:29:31.381Next, yeah, and I just want to add that these things are supposed to counterbalance Knowledge reports that are in your ethics folder.
01:29:31.381 -->
01:29:33.707Yeah, this is supposed to wipe each of they don't?
01:29:33.707 -->
01:29:35.095Yeah, this could be worth.
01:29:35.297 -->
01:29:37.029You know you might have done 20 bad things.
01:29:37.029 -->
01:29:41.119This could blow those all out and just clean the slate for you again.
01:29:41.380 -->
01:29:43.595That's always happened, but maybe for a week or two.
01:29:43.614 -->
01:29:46.052Yeah, highly commended.
01:29:46.052 -->
01:29:53.730The below are highly commended for their professional work on this year's IES 10th anniversary event.
01:29:53.730 -->
01:29:59.550Now, if this is the fact, if Jason really did write this, it totally makes sense.
01:29:59.550 -->
01:30:01.798He's the first person he commended.
01:30:02.951 -->
01:30:03.974It says Jason Bennett.
01:30:04.033 -->
01:30:05.779He's the first name on the list.
01:30:06.180 -->
01:30:07.261He should have just put me.
01:30:07.261 -->
01:30:08.716I'm gonna skip to the end.
01:30:08.716 -->
01:30:11.350Yeah, warren officer, jason Bennett, he did write this.
01:30:11.350 -->
01:30:14.117Yeah, the first person he commended was himself.
01:30:14.117 -->
01:30:18.778Okay, jason Ben, I'm gonna read all these names and you'll see why.
01:30:18.837 -->
01:30:32.712When we're done, jason Bennett, gary, we see Nick Consilla, rick Cruz and Ray McKay, Cindy Rainer, stefan Lewis, larry Jacobs, chris Ray, frank Fenn, steve Marley, jeff Baker, gary Lou, camilla Jarco, phyllis Drake, commended.
01:30:32.712 -->
01:30:52.872The below are commended for their professional work on this event Steve Young, peter Lewis, brooke Shackleton, sherry Moorhead, boring bull stat, adam Purcell, cliff Thomas, mark Hedley, gary Hunter, bertie Magnuson, sarnie Wiley, josh Hemphill, olpholves and Bruce Plotts, cleve Carlson, paul Sarkinny, wilson eques or eques, is it?
01:30:52.872 -->
01:30:53.453Ramirez?
01:30:53.453 -->
01:30:59.176John Gonzalez, charlie Russian, mike Eaves Okay, that's mostly.
01:30:59.176 -->
01:31:06.855Those two top columns are mostly the event Executives and then the event crew.
01:31:06.855 -->
01:31:19.277So those top people are in both Sections of the film production and the event production and that's probably why they're at the top, because they, they, they doubled, they did double duty.
01:31:19.277 -->
01:31:26.569These people that are listed below Most likely worked on one or the other and that maybe not both.
01:31:26.569 -->
01:31:42.304Okay, in addition to who may have participated above, the below staffer also commended specifically for their participation in the production of the IS event videos and making them the best event videos we have produced to date.
01:31:43.030 -->
01:32:33.050Mitch brisker, claudio Olander, barber mace, chris Mayfield, mike Lemeron, jim Pettigrew, evelyn Borglund, oglenon, ron Somerville, adam Lewis, andrew Bradley, julia Ellis, todd Yamaguchi, sheila Freeberry, philip Dawes, will Francesco, frau Larry Madsen, dave West, sean Morrison, lisa Schroer, hilly desertel, marcus Swanson, sean Alcock, nancy Julian, kim freeze, tim Larson, tom Armstrong, peter Blecka, john Thomas, walter Wilkins, tony Pinder, johann Olson, johann Olson, becky Williams, sadie Mayfield, randy Kreitz, marker Gazetti, paul leaves, phil Sherlock, jennifer Demers, megan Ray, gwen Kulf, axel Johansson, jessica Weineke, eric Geisler, henning Bendorf, bob Stearns, bill Foster, tori shell, vicki Pearson, dan Anderson, julia Strada, don Edwards, shanagh a wiler, jack Sheehan, fed Tizzy, randall, gillian.
01:32:33.069 -->
01:32:51.590And Then there's a page to Stevie Duncan, ron, miss Gavage, neil Coon and Gareth Freeberry, carl Leach, linda Greilich, chris Olander, denise friend, mike Ogletree, bert Drake, lisa frau Jim Pearson, football a Frank, peter Schles, mickey Astrada, steve Cook, tom Mcmurray, mcenry Ellis, russ Greilich that's all of the list of names.
01:32:51.590 -->
01:33:00.581Warrant Officer Jason Benic, general manager, gold Authorized by LRH calm gold for Church of Scientology International.
01:33:00.581 -->
01:33:05.239And then it has a Signatories, and I know all the names of the people so, so.
01:33:05.541 -->
01:33:07.835So what's the word I'm trying to say?
01:33:07.835 -->
01:33:09.059Or official?
01:33:09.059 -->
01:33:11.372No, yes, daniel F.
01:33:11.391 -->
01:33:13.216Dean, jb for Jason Benic.
01:33:13.216 -->
01:33:16.971Jb for Jason Benic LC, gold CSI.
01:33:16.971 -->
01:33:19.934Okay, that's a lot of people.
01:33:19.934 -->
01:33:21.417Now this I don't.
01:33:21.417 -->
01:33:23.462I don't actually.
01:33:23.462 -->
01:33:29.858Sometimes they say at the end they'll put a little thing here.
01:33:30.057 -->
01:33:37.721The above people are awarded a day off, or Like, if there was something that came with it, you'd get, like, the prize at the end.
01:33:37.721 -->
01:33:44.470And I don't think I'm just gonna show the second page, because I didn't show that up on the slide there.
01:33:44.470 -->
01:33:45.774That's the second page.
01:33:45.774 -->
01:33:47.016You guys can see that there.
01:33:47.016 -->
01:33:50.810This is an official document, the.
01:33:50.810 -->
01:33:55.939There wasn't a prize and I think on this one what might have happened?
01:33:56.261 -->
01:34:03.872And and I'm pretty sure this is what happened when we were in the UK, dave said you, it was a great event, we probably made.
01:34:03.872 -->
01:34:12.430He made millions and millions and millions of dollars and he probably said you guys should take a day off and we might have gone into London or we might have done something.
01:34:12.430 -->
01:34:19.270I remember, on this specific event, that I was about to get on a concord because we missed our broadcast window and we had to come.
01:34:19.270 -->
01:34:40.710We had a broadcast, the, the video there to broadcast to all of the organizations all over the world the next day, and we missed our window and the tape had to get to New York by some time and we I was gonna get on a concord and fly the tape to the broadcast center and then we ended up just getting a new window that would get there before the plane.
01:34:40.710 -->
01:34:41.375So I don't know.
01:34:41.395 -->
01:34:43.489You missed a shot of you, didn't make a concord.
01:34:44.051 -->
01:34:49.949I didn't, but but because everybody day off the next day and we were running around doing all this video nonsense.
01:34:49.949 -->
01:34:54.350We were in London, but we were just working to try to figure out how to get the broadcast.
01:34:54.350 -->
01:35:12.159We stayed up all night after the event doing the edit and checking it and making sure it was all good and then we spent the whole day driving around getting lost in London and going to satellite places and messing it up and not getting our window and the tape was wrong and this was wrong, and so I don't think we actually ended up getting the day off.
01:35:12.180 -->
01:35:15.569Yeah, fun but stressful running around England like London, like yeah.
01:35:15.630 -->
01:35:18.752It was not fun at all, anyway.
01:35:18.752 -->
01:35:19.917So that is that okay.
01:35:19.917 -->
01:35:26.617Now, this is a fun little thing because I thought to myself I Wonder how many of these people are still there.
01:35:26.617 -->
01:35:29.143This was in 1994, argue be a while ago.
01:35:29.970 -->
01:35:34.140But the people well, considering that they've signed a billion-year contract.
01:35:34.199 -->
01:35:35.922Yeah, you would think a lot of them are there.
01:35:35.922 -->
01:35:42.143Okay, I'm gonna show you yours, I'm gonna show you the document and the people that are not there.
01:35:42.143 -->
01:35:43.595We've crossed them out.
01:35:43.595 -->
01:35:44.878Okay, here we go.
01:35:45.730 -->
01:35:46.612This is who's there.
01:35:47.113 -->
01:35:48.135This is who's still there.
01:35:48.135 -->
01:35:55.881If they, if their name is not crossed out, I do not know Definitively that they are not still there.
01:35:55.881 -->
01:36:12.899The people that are crossed out I am 99.9 percent sure that they're either declared a suppressive person they escaped and then they were declared a suppressive person or they got just kicked out of the sea or for being bad sea Org members yeah, yeah, there's, there's, yeah, no, I.
01:36:13.971 -->
01:36:17.514My own Verification says 100%.
01:36:17.514 -->
01:36:18.095You are correct.
01:36:18.095 -->
01:36:22.644There's maybe two people on here who left the sea or put are still in Scientology.
01:36:22.970 -->
01:36:23.613Oh yeah, no, there's.
01:36:23.613 -->
01:36:29.689I mean, the best person that we'll talk about is, on the very beginning of the document, the guy who commended himself.
01:36:29.689 -->
01:36:32.336The first person, jason Jason Benic.
01:36:32.336 -->
01:36:40.604He's still a Scientologist, but he really he was a Beliterated from the Aunt base and he was kicked out of the sea.
01:36:40.604 -->
01:36:41.869Work by David Miss Gabby.
01:36:41.930 -->
01:36:42.993Yeah, but he gets pulled in.
01:36:42.993 -->
01:36:44.859He gets pulled in as an apologist.
01:36:45.311 -->
01:36:47.060He does because he was at the Aunt base.
01:36:47.060 -->
01:36:48.949He's like oh, everything was wonderful there.
01:36:49.230 -->
01:36:50.394I know, Dave is a great guy.
01:36:50.394 -->
01:36:52.480He never hit me or punched me or locked up or not.
01:36:52.480 -->
01:36:54.841He's a told best guy ever worked for.
01:36:54.841 -->
01:36:56.250That's why I'm no longer working there.
01:36:56.650 -->
01:37:02.810Yeah, and Jason Benic was one of the people he beat up and you know I got most punching bed, jason punching back.
01:37:02.949 -->
01:37:04.675But yeah, he was.
01:37:04.675 -->
01:37:10.698He was across between a pit bull, a lap dog, at a border collie when it, when it came to obedience.
01:37:11.319 -->
01:37:13.407Yep, that's exactly what he was and here so.
01:37:13.407 -->
01:37:14.409I'll just show the second page.
01:37:14.409 -->
01:37:17.500That's the first page, and then you can look on the second page.
01:37:17.500 -->
01:37:22.909Everyone's crossed out, including the person who wrote it and the person who approved it.
01:37:23.712 -->
01:37:25.038Yeah, exactly yeah.
01:37:25.038 -->
01:37:31.381And when you and most of these, I mean Like there's hasn't been a lot of people coming up there in a long time.
01:37:31.770 -->
01:37:41.876No, I mean, the youngest youngest person up there is in their 40s, so yeah, I would say that they were getting when in the early in the 90s, there could be 20 or 30 new people.
01:37:42.150 -->
01:37:43.454Oh yeah, they were getting lots of people.
01:37:44.590 -->
01:37:53.560And then in, I want to say in the late 90s and definitely into the 2000s there might be one or two people, that no, the higher some pros.
01:37:54.530 -->
01:37:55.774I know the last guy that came up.
01:37:55.774 -->
01:37:59.871He's from a foreign country, I think a Scandinavian country.
01:37:59.871 -->
01:38:06.216He's on one, you know, because that's a very special skill to be able to translate, and I think he's in his 40s.
01:38:06.216 -->
01:38:14.057I used to joke that gold's going to be an old age home for zero workers, which is really like they have the facilities to house people.
01:38:14.057 -->
01:38:18.273But you know, it could end up being just like the old age home.
01:38:19.510 -->
01:38:22.659I mean, they're basically doing busy work at this point.
01:38:22.659 -->
01:38:25.057They're not doing anything that anyone needs.
01:38:25.771 -->
01:38:29.399No, that's not true, but I don't want to sound like an apologist.
01:38:29.399 -->
01:38:30.533No, they're still making films.
01:38:30.533 -->
01:38:32.873They're making the tech films over.
01:38:32.873 -->
01:38:37.529Okay, again, always, mark, they'll always be doing it.
01:38:37.529 -->
01:38:43.182They always, because Dave likes to keep them busy and they're doing programming.
01:38:43.449 -->
01:38:45.676We actually I should probably.
01:38:45.676 -->
01:38:48.250I have a couple of the films I did when I got sent back to gold.
01:38:48.250 -->
01:38:49.934I was doing films.
01:38:49.934 -->
01:39:00.814L Ron Hubbard said all of his books you know his basic books and all of his, everything he wrote, all of his letters and his essays, everyone should be converted into a film.
01:39:00.814 -->
01:39:06.081So I've made some of these films from some of his lectures for the TV network.
01:39:06.081 -->
01:39:07.873So they're still doing all that stuff.
01:39:07.873 -->
01:39:09.573But it's just sinny.
01:39:09.573 -->
01:39:10.556It's just sinny.
01:39:10.556 -->
01:39:17.078They're making some films, they just have their little unit over there right and the editing Well, they're not manufacturing anything.
01:39:17.912 -->
01:39:19.096Well, it's not totally true.
01:39:19.096 -->
01:39:20.835Let's do a little briefing on what gold does.
01:39:20.835 -->
01:39:22.976Here's what they do.
01:39:22.976 -->
01:39:34.957Okay, they have compiled a mountain of analog material over the years analog videotapes, documents, audio tapes, photos and they scan those.
01:39:34.957 -->
01:39:38.557That's what all of your executives are doing.
01:39:38.557 -->
01:39:48.317That's what Gerem Lozarev and Greg Wilherr, kurt Wheelan, all those guys they're digital digitizing and scanning.
01:39:48.317 -->
01:39:50.756It's mind numbing work.
01:39:50.917 -->
01:39:52.972Oh wow, and also that and also.
01:39:52.972 -->
01:39:54.396You could just farm all that out.
01:39:54.997 -->
01:39:55.498Yeah, you could.
01:39:55.498 -->
01:39:56.201You could.
01:39:56.201 -->
01:40:00.119I mean some of the digitizing, because think about all the different audio formats.
01:40:00.470 -->
01:40:03.135I mean video formats Mark Well, both audio too.
01:40:03.135 -->
01:40:05.157They have to take all that analog.
01:40:05.289 -->
01:40:14.237They have miles, and I'd say millions of miles of tape, yeah tons, and they just digitize them all day long.
01:40:14.237 -->
01:40:14.899That's all they do.
01:40:14.899 -->
01:40:16.252They do that.
01:40:16.252 -->
01:40:21.261And the titanium boxes that they put in the vault.
01:40:22.411 -->
01:40:23.697Yeah, they were making those in the cast.
01:40:23.697 -->
01:40:25.277No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:40:25.277 -->
01:40:26.154They don't make anything.
01:40:26.154 -->
01:40:27.132They do film.
01:40:27.132 -->
01:40:28.537That's a whole other thing.
01:40:28.537 -->
01:40:31.819Like nobody can figure out everything that they do.
01:40:31.819 -->
01:40:33.917They do the gift packing, okay.
01:40:33.917 -->
01:40:41.891In other words, they put it in the box, they get it ready, yeah, they get it ready, and then it gets set up for finishing at CST, cst.
01:40:41.891 -->
01:40:43.637They do the final argon gas.
01:40:44.430 -->
01:40:46.417CST is Church of Spiritual Technology.
01:40:46.417 -->
01:40:47.220Yeah, they're responsible.
01:40:47.409 -->
01:40:51.939Also known as Hotel California, where Shirley Miss Gavage lives.
01:40:52.480 -->
01:41:05.537Okay, they're the ones that are responsible for taking all of Elron Hubbard's written and spoken and filmed words and putting it into titanium capsules on stainless steel plates and gold records and all these other things.
01:41:05.537 -->
01:41:09.880Yeah, it's crazy, so that they can withstand a nuclear holocaust.
01:41:10.091 -->
01:41:11.336Yeah, or a weather event.
01:41:11.336 -->
01:41:19.059The video, the documentary, that they no, no, because remember, when Hubbard made the order to do this, the fear was nuclear war.
01:41:19.059 -->
01:41:21.225Yeah, today the fear is a weather event.
01:41:21.225 -->
01:41:23.037So no, I'm serious.
01:41:23.037 -->
01:41:23.993So think about it.
01:41:23.993 -->
01:41:30.858Right, we're going to have rising tides on the skies If you look at the documentary on Scientology, media Productions.
01:41:31.390 -->
01:41:32.534That's a weather event now.
01:41:32.789 -->
01:41:36.019Well, hold on, which I highly recommend you.
01:41:36.078 -->
01:41:39.938look, because I we should do a reaction video so we don't send people over to Scientology.
01:41:39.978 -->
01:41:40.840No, no, no.
01:41:40.840 -->
01:41:41.742Send them over there.
01:41:41.742 -->
01:41:43.074It doesn't help them at all.
01:41:43.074 -->
01:41:45.030They don't capture IP addresses.
01:41:45.030 -->
01:41:46.212Mark, I know this, I worked there.
01:41:46.212 -->
01:41:47.213Okay, they don't.
01:41:47.213 -->
01:41:48.234It doesn't help them at all.
01:41:48.234 -->
01:41:48.996There's no metric.
01:41:48.996 -->
01:41:50.317It doesn't help them, they don't.
01:41:50.337 -->
01:41:53.319Use a VPN if you go over there, folks, I'm not saying they don't?
01:41:53.340 -->
01:41:55.722Yeah, okay, yeah, use a VPN if you go over there.
01:41:55.903 -->
01:41:57.625Bag it before you go to their site.
01:41:57.805 -->
01:42:01.435Okay, yeah, you want to wrap it before you tap it?
01:42:01.435 -->
01:42:07.395Yes, okay, anyway, but the reason I say that that's not a tech film saying, by the way, wrap it.
01:42:07.395 -->
01:42:09.019No, no, no, definitely not yeah.
01:42:09.019 -->
01:42:14.779Yeah, it opens up with a bunch of montage of weather events.
01:42:14.779 -->
01:42:22.322Yes, like the apocalyptic weather events, because they always are going to push with the big end of the world, that's true, that's true.
01:42:23.170 -->
01:42:26.238But I just have to say I know this is off topic, but we're sort of ran out of that topic anyway.
01:42:26.238 -->
01:42:29.695Yeah, this is something we can get into some other time if you want.
01:42:29.695 -->
01:42:33.975Yeah, because I did a bunch of work on that whole CSC thing, but oh, that would be amazing.
01:42:33.975 -->
01:42:39.163Yeah, I was on with Karen Delacarrie when I made the announcement about Norman Starkey passing away.
01:42:39.163 -->
01:42:45.702Karen Delacarrie and I brought Jeffrey Augustine on because he was the one who confirmed it for me.
01:42:45.702 -->
01:42:51.215I mean, the source that I got that from 100% didn't need confirmation, but I thought people are going to want to see a document.
01:42:51.215 -->
01:42:53.432Sure, jeffrey dug something up.
01:42:53.432 -->
01:42:56.993Karen came on and she said so are I blew my mind?
01:42:56.993 -->
01:42:58.719She said are the?
01:42:59.110 -->
01:43:00.275What about the confidential materials?
01:43:00.275 -->
01:43:00.993Are they on the box?
01:43:00.993 -->
01:43:04.234Nobody's ever asked this question, that's true.
01:43:04.234 -->
01:43:05.698Okay, yeah, okay.
01:43:05.698 -->
01:43:06.498But it's not just that.
01:43:06.498 -->
01:43:16.983I mean I was on the phone with a friend of mine and he said I'm going to send you a copy of the information from Dylan Gill.
01:43:16.983 -->
01:43:19.595He called me up and he said hey, wait a minute.
01:43:19.877 -->
01:43:20.578I think she's right.
01:43:20.578 -->
01:43:26.289We scanned them, we transcribed them, but I don't remember them ever going into a box.
01:43:26.289 -->
01:43:34.859Well, I'll tell you this we had at the Ant Base we had a special, we had a special department in manufacturing, which was the upper advanced materials manufacturing Right Right.
01:43:34.859 -->
01:43:41.257Yeah, I worked in there, but those people came from CST.
01:43:41.909 -->
01:43:47.863But I worked on the confidential films because I was like OT5, whatever, it doesn't matter, OT bullshit.
01:43:47.863 -->
01:43:50.256And then I was able to work on those.
01:43:50.256 -->
01:43:51.439But here's the real question.
01:43:51.439 -->
01:43:53.774Okay, let's just say they all are in the vault.
01:43:53.774 -->
01:43:59.141They transcribe the whole Xenostory and all of Hubbard's handwritten, whatever it is.
01:43:59.141 -->
01:44:00.131It tells the whole thing.
01:44:00.131 -->
01:44:02.057Right, let's say they're in there, Okay?
01:44:02.057 -->
01:44:06.560So in order for you to do your OT levels, okay, you have to pass a gatekeeper.
01:44:06.560 -->
01:44:09.359Osha is going to gather up every folder on you.
01:44:09.359 -->
01:44:10.595They're going to read every report.
01:44:10.595 -->
01:44:12.377They're going to put you down with a sec checker.
01:44:12.377 -->
01:44:14.708They're going to fucking.
01:44:14.708 -->
01:44:18.961They're going to just squeeze any possible thing you've ever done before.
01:44:18.961 -->
01:44:25.317You have to be certified that it's okay for you to go on these and if you access them early, you're going to die.
01:44:25.898 -->
01:44:26.519Of pneumonia.
01:44:26.819 -->
01:44:27.240Yeah.
01:44:27.240 -->
01:44:30.257So how can you just put these in a box for some poor suckers?
01:44:30.257 -->
01:44:34.154If you say that that's true, that whole story, that's a great point.
01:44:34.154 -->
01:44:39.962How can you put them in a box for some numb nuts to stumble on?
01:44:40.390 -->
01:44:44.592Well, also, I don't know how you're, I literally my question.
01:44:44.592 -->
01:44:45.716That's a good question.
01:44:45.970 -->
01:44:47.275Nobody's ever brought this up.
01:44:47.829 -->
01:44:57.048My questions always be like okay, let's pretend the weather event happens, or the nuclear or something or whatever Right my combination there, okay, and I've been to one of these facilities.
01:44:57.048 -->
01:44:58.496I've been to the one in New Mexico.
01:44:58.770 -->
01:44:59.573I never got to go.
01:45:00.033 -->
01:45:00.896I've been to the Well.
01:45:00.896 -->
01:45:01.698I went afterwards.
01:45:01.698 -->
01:45:04.297I drove there with John Swinney order from the BBC.
01:45:05.492 -->
01:45:06.614You didn't go inside.
01:45:07.095 -->
01:45:08.279We couldn't, they didn't let us in.
01:45:09.130 -->
01:45:09.737You know, the one in New Mexico.
01:45:09.737 -->
01:45:11.591I've heard that that's where the gold bullion and the jewels are.
01:45:11.993 -->
01:45:12.837That's what I've heard.
01:45:13.189 -->
01:45:14.255That's why I'm back in.
01:45:14.255 -->
01:45:16.770It's only a few hour drive from me, anyway.
01:45:16.770 -->
01:45:23.340So we went there and but it took us hours and hours to find it, when we knew where it was.
01:45:23.340 -->
01:45:37.457Really, I don't know how someone's going to happen upon this place after a weather event that we could barely get to it in the middle of the desert on currently Right GPs, roads with GPS and a big vehicle.
01:45:37.457 -->
01:45:43.155I don't know how someone's just going to be like walking along and be like, oh, and then it's going to be in this vault.
01:45:43.155 -->
01:45:46.497They're just going to go like doot, doot, doot, doot, yeah, and they're going to open the vault.
01:45:46.697 -->
01:45:47.118I don't know.
01:45:47.118 -->
01:45:49.449There's Dude.
01:45:49.449 -->
01:45:50.914They're going to be looking for food.
01:45:50.914 -->
01:45:51.337That's right.
01:45:51.337 -->
01:45:54.096That's exactly what I thought when I.
01:45:54.096 -->
01:46:02.073If there is some sort of event and it's like everybody for themselves, if you want to get some gold, keep your.
01:46:02.073 -->
01:46:05.881Keep right a note of where these places are at and have a way to get to them.
01:46:06.250 -->
01:46:07.560After the zombie apocalypse.
01:46:07.560 -->
01:46:09.796Yeah, because they're these vaults.
01:46:09.796 -->
01:46:15.993Essentially, whether they are or aren't on paper, they're filled with precious metals.
01:46:15.993 -->
01:46:24.059Okay, yeah, titanium, they're filled with titanium and they're probably that's probably where they're putting their gold and their silver and their other stuff.
01:46:24.229 -->
01:46:33.278Apparently, Hubbard said for when he comes back and whatever you know, to survive in the future, money's going to be no good, You're going to be you're going to need jewels and gold.
01:46:33.890 -->
01:46:34.851Well, they're putting.
01:46:34.851 -->
01:46:38.038They're putting his material on gold records.
01:46:38.699 -->
01:46:39.502Okay, yeah.
01:46:40.390 -->
01:46:41.962What can you melt down for currency?
01:46:41.962 -->
01:46:43.516Yeah, and there's titanium.
01:46:43.689 -->
01:46:49.037You can't really melt titanium without advanced technology, yeah, but you can't cut it into like spears.
01:46:49.037 -->
01:46:54.239You know you can make it into weapons for hunting, so Sure, anyway, this is really handy stuff.
01:46:55.970 -->
01:47:00.220A zombie apocalypse happens and you want to hold up somewhere very secure.
01:47:00.220 -->
01:47:01.193You could do worse.
01:47:01.193 -->
01:47:06.884New Mexico running springs, I suppose there's one in Montana or something.
01:47:06.884 -->
01:47:07.930I don't know all the locations.
01:47:07.970 -->
01:47:09.213Well, isn't there one at the old?
01:47:09.213 -->
01:47:10.738No, kreston.
01:47:11.109 -->
01:47:14.998Yeah, kreston, right, I don't know if that's just his house or if they have a home there too.
01:47:14.998 -->
01:47:16.615I heard there was a vault there.
01:47:16.615 -->
01:47:19.877Well, he was keeping cash in the barn in Kreston.
01:47:19.898 -->
01:47:20.439Anyway, somebody.
01:47:20.439 -->
01:47:31.331Yeah, I want to make a movie about some poor suckers like opening the shit up in the future and dying of pneumonia, Just like the hell is that we got?
01:47:31.371 -->
01:47:36.257hey, Denver Stevo says yes, Goldie, he knew, I don't know what that?
01:47:36.278 -->
01:47:36.881means, but hey, Denver.
01:47:36.881 -->
01:47:42.519Stevo, he knew hey, Mark hold on, Mark, before you look on the starred ones.
01:47:42.519 -->
01:47:43.902We got a couple, we got an answer.
01:47:43.902 -->
01:47:45.858We got one from Claire that we have to answer.
01:47:45.858 -->
01:47:46.320Yeah, here we go.
01:47:46.930 -->
01:47:51.457Oh Zee, new Drink Outer Space Vodka Mountain Dew with lime cherries.
01:47:51.859 -->
01:47:52.699Lime and cherries.
01:47:52.900 -->
01:47:55.572Okay, I like that Outer Space Vodka.
01:47:55.572 -->
01:47:57.578I don't know what Outer Space Vodka is.
01:47:57.670 -->
01:48:03.279Is there any vodka that you have that you can just call Well, no, but maybe there's this vodka called Outer Space Vodka.
01:48:03.279 -->
01:48:05.314I don't know if that's a thing.
01:48:05.314 -->
01:48:08.335I don't want to diss their brand but Outer Space.
01:48:08.375 -->
01:48:11.720Vodka, mountain Dew, lime and cherries.
01:48:11.720 -->
01:48:12.542I love it.
01:48:12.542 -->
01:48:13.824I love that better.
01:48:13.824 -->
01:48:29.002I hate to break it to you, john Satowski, but that is and actually I did say like a Zee New Mule and that is sort of a very close cousin to a Mule, the vodka and the lime.
01:48:29.363 -->
01:48:32.356Oh yeah, You're not allowed to show their brand because I found it.
01:48:33.190 -->
01:48:33.752Claire nailed it.
01:48:33.752 -->
01:48:35.356Is it Outer Space Vodka?
01:48:35.637 -->
01:48:36.119Yeah, I can't.
01:48:36.119 -->
01:48:38.453It won't work on my camera, but oh well.
01:48:38.512 -->
01:48:39.015I like it.
01:48:39.015 -->
01:48:41.373It's an alien head bottle.
01:48:41.373 -->
01:48:42.756Perfect, I'm going to get it.
01:48:42.756 -->
01:48:43.859You need to work on it.
01:48:43.859 -->
01:48:44.862Thank you, claire.
01:48:45.470 -->
01:48:47.557Hey, how does Claire know about Outer Space Vodka?
01:48:48.313 -->
01:48:48.914Well, you don't.
01:48:48.914 -->
01:48:55.261Because Claire's got the Google machine that she can run while I'm here, oh OK, so this was.
01:48:55.261 -->
01:48:59.539I'm going to say that's what it is, even though she's a total lush there is a guy.
01:48:59.539 -->
01:49:00.512I don't believe that.
01:49:00.512 -->
01:49:05.319There is a guy, his name is John Roker and he shot.
01:49:05.319 -->
01:49:06.895He's a video director.
01:49:07.130 -->
01:49:08.414He did Green Day.
01:49:08.414 -->
01:49:11.235He's done a bunch of work with Green Day.
01:49:11.235 -->
01:49:22.537I think the American idiot tour and video and film and he's done album art and stuff like that and when I first got out he had started.
01:49:22.537 -->
01:49:24.613He had started a religion.
01:49:25.837 -->
01:49:27.391It's called real, it's called.
01:49:27.412 -->
01:49:36.753Lushatology and and they and he did this little trailer and he was like we don't want your, we don't want your money, we just want your liver.
01:49:36.753 -->
01:49:38.533And then he would go to these.
01:49:38.533 -->
01:49:39.417Oh, that's awesome.
01:49:39.417 -->
01:49:43.179He would go to these liquor stores and he'd be like and he went to Scientology.
01:49:43.179 -->
01:49:47.840In the video I'll see if I can find the video and I'll put it, Please Sounds awesome.
01:49:47.840 -->
01:49:50.359He's like we're not like these guys, we don't want your money.
01:49:50.359 -->
01:49:56.716And then the next scene he's like at the liquor store or something was like these are one of our churches and it's a liquor store in.
01:49:56.777 -->
01:49:57.719Hollywood on Hollywood.
01:49:57.738 -->
01:50:01.453Boulevard and he's like yeah, we don't want your money, we just want your liver.
01:50:01.453 -->
01:50:04.118And anyway, it's really funny.
01:50:04.118 -->
01:50:12.135But the name of it was Lushatology and and I was a Lushatologist for a very short period of time, I was a card carrying member.
01:50:12.315 -->
01:50:12.817Are we all?
01:50:12.817 -->
01:50:13.578We're we all?
01:50:14.350 -->
01:50:20.662And Joni Cummings says question can either of you get your hands off any of the scripts?
01:50:21.170 -->
01:50:21.974Sadly, no.
01:50:21.974 -->
01:50:27.461I had a binder, like my own personal binder, with my name on it, that had all of the scripts in it.
01:50:28.350 -->
01:50:32.698I, you know I did you also have the binder of all of the things that you and ten?
01:50:32.698 -->
01:50:33.600He needs to have a binder?
01:50:33.600 -->
01:50:38.288No, no, didn't you have a binder of all of the correspondence between you and David Mascavage at the?
01:50:38.328 -->
01:50:38.489base.
01:50:38.489 -->
01:50:40.698No, because that would have filled my entire office.
01:50:40.698 -->
01:50:42.456No, I'm serious.
01:50:42.456 -->
01:50:48.375He told me one day that he was probably bullshitting because he's a consummate liar and he likes to say things to make people feel good.
01:50:48.375 -->
01:51:01.095Yeah, and I was walking through his office and I never went there before building, before the big $50 million building, and I went up with him to his office to have some kind of meeting, which is maybe the only time I never needed to go up there.
01:51:01.095 -->
01:51:04.354Yeah, I mean, claire can tell you she never saw me in that building.
01:51:04.777 -->
01:51:05.257No, yeah.
01:51:05.538 -->
01:51:06.909No reason to go Well.
01:51:06.930 -->
01:51:08.436I mean, I was there for 15 years.
01:51:08.436 -->
01:51:11.958I may have been in that building maybe 50 times.
01:51:12.279 -->
01:51:14.697Yeah, I was there once and all the time that you were there.
01:51:16.233 -->
01:51:18.298So he didn't like people coming to see him.
01:51:18.911 -->
01:51:19.795No, he took me up there.
01:51:19.795 -->
01:51:21.135We were going to talk about something.
01:51:21.135 -->
01:51:23.514And you know, and so we were walking by.
01:51:23.514 -->
01:51:25.676Remember the filing cabinets with the cranks on them.
01:51:25.676 -->
01:51:26.057They moved.
01:51:26.057 -->
01:51:28.742Yes, A massive high density shelving.
01:51:28.742 -->
01:51:40.797Yeah, and we walked by there and he said you know, there's more correspondence between you and me than there is between him and anybody else in the world and you know, I believe that, I actually believe that, whether it's a liar or not.
01:51:41.139 -->
01:51:45.032I do believe it because you and him are writing to each other for many, many years.
01:51:45.192 -->
01:51:47.494Multiple times a day, every single day.
01:51:47.494 -->
01:51:48.235Yeah, multiple times.
01:51:48.615 -->
01:51:49.457But every day.
01:51:51.359 -->
01:51:51.680Yeah.
01:51:51.701 -->
01:51:53.802Hold on, Hold on, Hold on.
01:51:53.802 -->
01:51:55.045It's okay, I'm going to put this up.
01:51:55.045 -->
01:51:57.354It says not a sheeple says.
01:51:57.354 -->
01:51:59.703So how come if Claire is a lush?
01:51:59.703 -->
01:52:02.493There's pics of you passed out on a sidewalk.
01:52:02.493 -->
01:52:04.672This is a good point.
01:52:04.672 -->
01:52:09.159I think more people that hang out with Claire should take pictures of her.
01:52:10.150 -->
01:52:14.319I'm not going to read this today, but this is the last letter I got from him in 2018.
01:52:14.338 -->
01:52:18.319Okay, oh wow, oh yeah, so that's another thing Mitch does have.
01:52:18.319 -->
01:52:21.893I mean, you know, I do this thing with this, I don't have a lot.
01:52:22.333 -->
01:52:23.015I know I do.
01:52:23.497 -->
01:52:24.860I do this thing with the spy files.
01:52:24.860 -->
01:52:28.396I've got about 30 files that talk about me and I just read them.
01:52:29.037 -->
01:52:32.670You know, maybe yeah, this one's kind of this is this letter.
01:52:32.670 -->
01:52:33.974This is the reason why they're put there.
01:52:33.974 -->
01:52:40.476They can't do a hate site about me and say, yeah, he was a nobody, he really didn't do any of these things.
01:52:40.729 -->
01:52:41.533Hey, this is a good.
01:52:41.533 -->
01:52:43.639This thing we just showed is a good one for me.
01:52:43.639 -->
01:52:46.819They said I was trying to drown people when I was six, yet I was highly.
01:52:46.819 -->
01:52:49.387I was commending here in 1994.
01:52:49.408 -->
01:52:57.484I was a good guy In this letter he refers to me as a good friend and he refers to our working relationship.
01:52:57.484 -->
01:52:58.587Wow.
01:52:58.787 -->
01:52:59.488That's hard.
01:52:59.488 -->
01:53:00.210That's a hard one.
01:53:00.590 -->
01:53:06.222I can't say this guy is nobody, because I can just hold that letter up and it's from 2018.
01:53:06.609 -->
01:53:11.828It's like pretty recent, so anyway you know this is a great one.
01:53:11.828 -->
01:53:12.934I'm going to show this.
01:53:12.934 -->
01:53:19.060It says Miala Kunis, aka CEO Bill question have either of you seen slash?
01:53:19.060 -->
01:53:21.323Heard any deets about the script LRH?
01:53:22.291 -->
01:53:25.460You'd be allegedly just hold on one second with Lenny Rivenstahl.
01:53:25.460 -->
01:53:29.451He's going to get the thing he didn't.
01:53:29.451 -->
01:53:31.036I'm going to say this while Mitch is gone.
01:53:31.036 -->
01:53:34.475Mitch has something.
01:53:34.475 -->
01:53:37.863He has all of the things that would have anything to do with this.
01:53:37.863 -->
01:53:55.155He has all of it, and I want to say that David Miskavich gave it to him, but LRH was writing a script about Africa and he heard that Lenny had been to Africa and I think he wrote to her.
01:53:55.155 -->
01:53:56.975Now Mitch can take over now.
01:53:57.055 -->
01:54:01.319Okay, here's a note from Dave and written.
01:54:01.319 -->
01:54:03.636You recognize that handwriting right, Mark Yep.
01:54:04.289 -->
01:54:06.027And I recognize his little little RTC.
01:54:06.027 -->
01:54:07.457This is the desk.
01:54:08.630 -->
01:54:09.675This is his desk notes.
01:54:09.675 -->
01:54:15.270If you want to send you a desk note, and this says dear Mitch, this is from 1995.
01:54:15.270 -->
01:54:17.737Dear Mitch, here's the data on Lenny.
01:54:17.777 -->
01:54:18.760Rivenstahl Love Dave.
01:54:18.760 -->
01:54:21.213Now set up why he sent that to you.
01:54:21.515 -->
01:54:23.097Okay, here's why he sent it to me One second.
01:54:24.761 -->
01:54:27.436Mitch, I'm not sure.
01:54:28.550 -->
01:54:30.194I'm going to do a whole video on this.
01:54:30.234 -->
01:54:31.679Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say.
01:54:32.430 -->
01:54:34.837But this is just a teaser for the video Perfect.
01:54:34.837 -->
01:54:37.034This is Lenny Rivenstahl's biography.
01:54:37.034 -->
01:54:47.478It's not a small book, but I've been fascinated by her since I was in film school in the 70s for a couple of reasons, and then, of course, then I ended up being the Lenny Rivenstahl Scientology.
01:54:47.478 -->
01:54:49.061There's a passage.
01:54:49.061 -->
01:54:51.798So I'm sitting in my office at Gold, I'm reading this book.
01:54:51.798 -->
01:54:54.016She starts talking about over and over in this book.
01:54:54.016 -->
01:54:57.792I'm like holy moly she's talking about.
01:54:57.832 -->
01:55:04.500She's looking for somebody to help her rewrite an English version of her most famous film, the Blue Light, which is a beautiful film, a silent film.
01:55:04.500 -->
01:55:05.533You can see it on YouTube.
01:55:05.533 -->
01:55:08.315The Blue Light, das Blülik, whatever.
01:55:08.315 -->
01:55:09.418However, you say that in German.
01:55:09.418 -->
01:55:13.699And she had an assistant who was a film editor, who was studying at St Hill.
01:55:13.699 -->
01:55:15.435That's how the connection was made.
01:55:16.010 -->
01:55:19.298They contacted Herbert about writing it and this is the script.
01:55:19.298 -->
01:55:20.979Okay, it's called the Blue Light.
01:55:20.979 -->
01:55:22.654This is the English version.
01:55:22.654 -->
01:55:24.216Well, I'll read this to you.
01:55:24.216 -->
01:55:31.114It says original story by Lenny Rivenstahl, early screen version by Bella Bellas, modern version by Elron Hubbard.
01:55:31.114 -->
01:55:59.814And so he sent me back the script and all of the correspondence and a lot of handwritten notes on how you plot development and character development, and it may be the only stuff he ever wrote about writing, because he wrote about everything how to clean your car, how to go clear, how to polish your cat, whatever it is, whatever it is, he just wrote about everything.
01:55:59.814 -->
01:56:01.615So, yeah, they answer the questions.
01:56:01.615 -->
01:56:04.694Yeah, I know a little about that, but I am going to do a whole video on it.
01:56:04.953 -->
01:56:06.476Nice, there you go.
01:56:06.476 -->
01:56:07.739There's the answer.
01:56:07.739 -->
01:56:10.117That's a good answer, I mean, for five bucks.
01:56:10.117 -->
01:56:11.350This guy put the question here.
01:56:11.449 -->
01:56:12.634Oh yeah, he got a million dollars.
01:56:12.634 -->
01:56:18.100Answer for five to five bucks Discount day at the Market and Midship Make a Scientology film.
01:56:18.100 -->
01:56:19.996We're having a big sale here.
01:56:20.197 -->
01:56:23.015Yeah, I'm going to end off on this.
01:56:23.015 -->
01:56:25.140This is the last of the questions.
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01:56:31.817Yeah, because I think I hear the lawyers about to pull up with my it says Zinu Coat Cocktail, pangalactic Gargle Blaster.
01:56:31.817 -->
01:56:32.859I like the name.
01:56:32.859 -->
01:56:34.141I like the name, I do like it.
01:56:34.890 -->
01:56:45.301That could be the name of the other one, yeah, and then we'd have the ingredients, the Pangalactic, but also I like I don't know, we're throwing away the Zinu, and Zinu is kind of like the Lee it has to have.
01:56:45.301 -->
01:56:48.757So it could be the Zinu Pangalactic Gargle Blaster.
01:56:48.858 -->
01:56:49.520It's too long.
01:56:49.520 -->
01:56:51.436We can't work on that one.
01:56:51.436 -->
01:56:54.978A good name for a drink can't be more than three words Sex on the beach.
01:56:54.978 -->
01:56:55.698That's about as.
01:56:56.560 -->
01:56:57.162That's four.
01:56:57.470 -->
01:57:00.695That's about as big as sex on the yeah, okay, you're right.
01:57:00.695 -->
01:57:01.653Let me count the syllables.
01:57:04.090 -->
01:57:05.375Hide current comment.
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01:57:09.958There we go, let me, just before we let's do some ha, some housekeeping before.
01:57:09.958 -->
01:57:13.677So we got to check out Mitch's channel at Scientology.
01:57:13.677 -->
01:57:14.279The big lie.
01:57:14.279 -->
01:57:17.318If you haven't subscribed, please do that.
01:57:18.550 -->
01:57:21.899Yeah, I'm going to be doing an extensive video on this.
01:57:21.899 -->
01:57:24.337I was going to cut a documentary about it.
01:57:25.610 -->
01:57:26.735And, but I'm still do that too.
01:57:27.210 -->
01:57:32.193Yeah, yeah, I could, but I'm going to do like a live stream about the linear reversal thing I also.
01:57:32.193 -->
01:57:43.421I also dedicate there's an entire chapter of my book about this and about Hubbard's claims of a film, like of having had a filmmaking career in Hollywood and all that.
01:57:43.421 -->
01:57:45.497It's all kind of mixed together Perfect.
01:57:47.373 -->
01:57:48.256And all that nonsense.
01:57:48.689 -->
01:57:56.417Yeah, you want to go to my channel and you want to hit that notification bill, because you'll get notified about when the book's released and you could read all about it.
01:57:57.551 -->
01:58:00.337Okay, good, and then, if you again, I'm just putting up his Indiegogo.
01:58:00.337 -->
01:58:04.451This will all be in the description, but I'm putting it up there, indiegogo.
01:58:04.451 -->
01:58:10.092Just search Mitch Briskers, scientology, the big lie We've got.
01:58:10.092 -->
01:58:14.792Zeno is my homeboy and other tons of BFG merch can be gotten from the Blum for Good Store.
01:58:14.792 -->
01:58:16.295The link is in the description.
01:58:16.295 -->
01:58:21.681And then, if anybody we sometimes we we talk about all this stuff.
01:58:21.681 -->
01:58:25.618We're talking about these individual films, the whole 15 years that I was there.
01:58:25.618 -->
01:58:29.454I pretty much tell that story in my book Blum for Good Behind the Iron Curtain.
01:58:29.630 -->
01:58:31.315Yeah, but you got the great escape story.
01:58:31.315 -->
01:58:36.060I just I just Lottie Nod drove off and decided not to come back.
01:58:36.060 -->
01:58:44.476I do think that Valerie Haney escaping in the back of a car that's like that's that's some other.
01:58:44.476 -->
01:58:49.619Oh, that's that is no, that's, that's like she raged the bar, yeah, yeah.
01:58:51.529 -->
01:59:01.475Anyway, thank you for joining us today, guys, thank you for sticking with us, thank you for all the guys that watched till the very end and, yeah, if do we forget anything else, I think we'll do.
01:59:01.737 -->
01:59:02.858Yeah, we're good, no, we're good.
01:59:02.858 -->
01:59:04.801Which film do we want to do next Do we want to do?
01:59:04.801 -->
01:59:06.524I think we should do tier 14.
01:59:06.689 -->
01:59:10.560I think a tier 14, that is, the angel and the devil film inside.
01:59:10.579 -->
01:59:12.212Yeah, this is the one that Hubbard.
01:59:12.212 -->
01:59:13.534This is like he hated.
01:59:13.534 -->
01:59:14.759He hated Catholics.
01:59:14.759 -->
01:59:16.813Okay, he really takes.
01:59:16.853 -->
01:59:24.399You're going to learn all that, and that one does have an all star studded cast as well, so yeah, and a lot of visual support.
01:59:24.529 -->
01:59:30.399We both managed to pull together some good visual support for that, yes, oh yes, it's going to be so good.
01:59:31.240 -->
01:59:32.042Okay, thanks a lot, guys.
01:59:33.630 -->
01:59:34.372And one more thing, just to tease it.
01:59:34.372 -->
01:59:37.333It's going to blow your mind If you watch that one till the end.
01:59:37.333 -->
01:59:38.998We will reveal another document.
01:59:39.600 -->
01:59:39.841Oh yeah.
01:59:40.109 -->
01:59:41.395We're going to keep these documents coming.
01:59:41.395 -->
01:59:45.578I have another note from David Muskevich to me about that film.
01:59:46.100 -->
01:59:48.275Yes, and we are also working on it.
01:59:48.275 -->
02:00:14.636If you are out there in the world of Scientology films and you have photos or videos or a document or a script or you were an actor and you read sides and you got had to get send us your stuff we have already gotten a lot of amazing photos and stuff like that that we've been sent and you will be seeing those throughout these films and these are some super super behind this.
02:00:14.817 -->
02:00:23.337Yeah, and it will really help us to tell the stories, because it really will see these things and then all of a sudden we get it triggers the memories.
02:00:23.716 -->
02:00:25.800Totally Okay, guys.
02:00:25.800 -->
02:00:26.581Thanks a lot, mitch.
02:00:26.581 -->
02:00:27.502Thank you everybody.
02:00:27.523 -->
02:00:27.903Thank you, mark.
02:00:27.903 -->
02:00:28.604We'll see you next time.
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02:00:33.533Bye.
