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Hey, welcome in. This is
our podcast. It's it's the big Head
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Pod and it SuDS with luds.
Uh and yet really that's not appropriate,
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so because you know, how do
you marry those? So here it is.
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This is Playmaker. The guy with
a big head is drinking. So
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yeah, really, so your nugget
doesn't look so here, here's what it
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is. This is Playmakers not yet
famous. Round table. Yes, because
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when we do these are gonna get
fame. You're gonna say we're actually on
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our no, but we'll be.
This is a rectangular table in Terminal C
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at DFW Airport. Yes, it's
okay, so we call it a square
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table, call it a round table. It almost looks like a one of
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the sand shuffle board tables that's there. We oh, we should play shuffle
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board of a beer pong table.
It's beer pong. We can set up
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some cups and we could. Oh
look and here comes next, Jason,
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bring it on in. Wow.
This is we are at Dirk Nowitzki's restaurant
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at DFW. Are looked at this. We have flat bread pizzas, We
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have these beautiful pretzel bites and what
else roller town, big German. This
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is Dirk's beer and it is fantastic
and you brewed by himself to him out
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there stirring. You need to come
to this restaurant. It's at Gate C
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thirty seven at DFW Airport and this
place is fantastic and we are here to
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talk about generations. Really, frankly, we're gonna pull the audience about generations
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here. That's an upcoming podcast will
be we will be the yes, I
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mean that next stuff and all that
you need to see. The best one
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we're gonna talk about is the self
proclaimed alpha one you like the elphice.
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Yeah, the twelve year olds are
calling themselves alphas. Yes, we've been
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relegated to the beta role as babies, right, we're baby boomers, boomers,
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yeah, boomers yea. No,
apparently I'm a gen Spencer one?
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Am I a gen z? Gen
z or always a millennial? Millennial?
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Are you kidding me? You're a
millennia seventy eight before? Which is what
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jen why? I think? Oh
here, you're a Hyeah, you're a
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y chromosome. So take that.
Uh. We'll have other guests stop buying
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the course of the program with Kevin
mentioned John Radigan and we're just here hanging
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out. We're just grabbing people as
they walk by, trying to We're hoping
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somebody famous coming. I see anybody
famous. I mean there's a big picture
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of Dirk right there. I wish
that could talk. But if we see
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anybody famous, we'll grab them,
We'll throw them on the podcast. But
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it's the playmakers not yet famous roundtable, and that's what we're doing. We're
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gonna just talk maybe some sports.
I don't know, we might what are
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sports? I mean this is we're
in an airport. I mean we want
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to see people. This is beautiful. Brandon, look at all this the
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renovations. It's actually brightened here.
It doesn't look like you ownsilmon and stuff
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everything. He loves the airport.
I do, Hey, I like the
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people Watch. You don't like people
luds? Just say it correct? Okay,
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So Rad's and not when I'm in
I do like. I love the
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people Watch. And I'm in this
airport quite a bit. But are you
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eighteen team? We fly in and
out of here all the time, so
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I like to get in. I
like to sit in a corner and watch.
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My favorite airport honestly, is people
want or who people watch? Is
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o' hair? Oh my gosh.
If you get everything that the gen Zers
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and boomers and Alphas all come fly. Hair is the biggest, right,
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But I think DFW is the most
busiest airport. Correct you say the most
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busiest? I think he did.
I don't think it's hair is the big
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most and I said busy. Okay, so he didn't. It's a combo
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grammatically, yeah, not his Sorry. We're enjoying ourselves today, right,
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just having fun with exactly. And
then she didn't like by the way,
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it's yeah, we're recording this eight
fifteen am. Yeah, yeah, he's
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are breakfast tacos. We love it. Men. She doesn't like beer,
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so he drinks whiskey. So this
could get you don't have any idea where
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this could go? Yes, if
you're flying out today, if you're terminal
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a take take the tram and are
you flying out today? Flying right back
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to my house and we're done?
Yeah, I hope we're not flying.
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Yeah, yeah, we're driving.
So where do we start? It's Dirk's
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place. That's pretty cool. I
mean again, that big picture of him
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seventh footer. I want to tell
you something about Yeah, I do,
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mister dir I do I want to
hear that. I am not a big
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I don't know a lot about that. I know you all, but you
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know I watch games here and there. He has he not won or achieved
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every award that a basketball player can
come up with? Is there anything he
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hasn't achieved as a basketball player?
From a trophy to banner to the statue,
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MVP, MVPs all Start, every
All Star MVP. Is is there
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anything left? Yeah? I don't. I don't think there's anything that you
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do the har living Yeah, hall
of Fame, right, well he's there.
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Yeah, Hall of Fame. So
yeah, that's the ultimate and first
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ballot, by the way. Okay, so here here's a question. I
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asked mole And if Dirk just happened
to walk by, yeah, we'll grab
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him. Yeah, I would ask
him. And here's a question. And
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if I'm not here, you guys
ask him. I may have to get
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escorted up. And I asked the
same question of Chris Chelios and ma Madonnald
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when it comes to having your jerseys
retired, the Hall of Fame, the
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NBA Championship, all those things,
is there one more important than another?
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Yeah? Well, I you know, I got a different answer from both
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of those and from Chelios. It
was like he wanted to see his jersey
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hanging in Chicago State really, which
he just accomplished not to go. But
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that was more for him, and
that was about his family. My kids
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will be able to walk in some
day. Wait a second, oh,
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Todd, just some Hall of famers
might walk by. Where are you going?
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A great Nancy lever men Hall of
Famer walks into this rat You never
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know who might show up at Dirk's
restaurant. Long hug, we got food,
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Sit down and hugging me because we
got a spot for you. We
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got snacks. How are you awesome
to see you again? No, noney,
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you are talking. We're talking,
sow and you're slide down. I'm
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sorry, Yeah, let me move
if we This is how it happened to
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a chance to try the flat bread
perfect. Yea, I gotta have.
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But right now I get somebody right
here. We're bringing Nancy in. Yes,
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who won this seating chart? No
kidding, goodness, Wow, he
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made sure talking about the first thing
that comes up. He said it.
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We knew he would enjoyed it.
We knew we have Dirk Spear, we
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got all came out. These are
what kind of flat bread pizzas. I
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will try a jerk spirit and I'm
not a drinker good because I'm fixing it.
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What's over there? Step food,
flat bread, flap pizza, flatbread
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pizza. Jason, what is it? We have a pepperoni? What's the
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other one? Jamaican jerk? Nancy
on that one? Wait? You call
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me a jerk? What the hell? So? Can I tell you what
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happened? Tells? We'd love to
hear it. I was on the phone
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walking in here. I'm so embarrassed, am I Mic? I was walking
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in with Del Harris. I was
talking to him and we're just chit chatting,
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and I'm like getting ready to walk
in and I unziped my purse to
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get my I carry a gun,
and I went, Dell, you just
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said you're just sat. I get
to go to my car. He goes,
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which one? Long? I go
before I get arristed? Would you
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bounce for me? He goes,
what's going on? I go, I
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have a cut of my purse.
I go. I got to go to
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the car. It was he didn't
get through security. I mean you didn't,
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you didn't get too security. But
just now yeah, And I went
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back and where my car was parked
and put the gun in there and walked
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back and like, okay, this
is good. So t s A.
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Didn't wonder why you turned and tucktail
and ran, Really I did. I
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was just waiting for her name.
She's so sweet. Yeah, yeah,
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that's U. Tests test test scored
too. Yeah. So we never said
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athletes are smart. No, no, they've never especially ones that are in
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the Hall of Fame. I mean
apparently when you get in you get two
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guns. Okay. It reminds me
of the of the Barry Switzer thing where
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he didn't remember and the bag came
through security. He was coming to training
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camp. He came through some bag
comes through security, and he gets pulled
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over and there and we're all in
Austino, where the hell Switzer is not
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a practice what's going on? And
the famous SoundBite from Switzer is I forgot
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to take my pistol out of my
backpack. Oh my god. So Switzer
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they got they caught him at least
hitting catch you, Nancy. Right after
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huh Switzer got off, I went
back to the Yeah you were in the
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meet, you were in you were
in there. What's a Maverick game?
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I told my guy take it out
of my bag. I'm flying tomorrow,
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gives it to the guy who's driving. The guy fits it back in the
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bag. I got through securities to
get handcuffed. Nancy was a felony.
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This is why, this is why
he was on the no fly list,
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trying to get through here. Hey
x Fudge twenty two thousand dollars, excuse
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me, sir, you do not
have a flight that takes off anytime?
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You got a flight to catch?
Yeah, yeah, we want to talk
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to next week Foster. He's a
big head, that's what you know.
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Kicks Brooks. We would play it
at Toby Key's golf tournament and we had
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not met, and he was late
getting in the car and they go,
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yeah, it's it's a tree guy. And I looked and he told me
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Kicks Brooks and I'm like, what
his name is? Kicks Okay. He
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gets in the car and go,
country guy, you're late. He was
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supposed to play golf. He goes, did you just call me country guy?
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I said, yeah, I mean
your Brooks are done and you're done
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with me because you're late. We
became great friends. That's great, yea.
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And we played nine eighteen holes together. They came out to NBA Summer
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League to see me play when they
were doing Reba's show, Get this Freak,
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I get you some chocolate. We're
sitting We're sitting here with a name
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dropper. I have I have a
question. Yes, so who is the
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most famous athlete person in general in
your opinion that I know this, I
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know where this is going, but
you know where it is. Muhammad Ali?
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Really Muhammad Ali like buddies with under
his wing. I was twenty.
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I was in college my senior year. Yeah, yeah, when you get
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divorced, because you're next on my
list. But so we met in New
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York. A lot's happening. Yeah, I'm you never let me go.
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He took my question and threw it
under the box. Yeah, thirty seven
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years of Muhammad Ali. And in
the last ten or twelve I would call
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and his wife and Lannie would say, baby, he's been waiting for you
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all day. And I'd come in
the house in Phoenix and I'm like,
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hey, Mohammed, and how are
you are you doing okay? And I
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go, you know, I've come
out of retirement more than you. And
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he's like, I can say it, you know, because he really didn't
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talk, but he'd be, he'd
be ready. Are you Are you angry
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that I came out of retirement more
than you, more success, more fans,
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more, and Lonnie's like really like
dancing was rubbing it into Hamad.
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I'll leave. Yeah, I would
just scoreboard. I would put his bib
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on and I would feed him like
freezer pops and I'd wipe his mouth.
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That's the same thing mentioned before you
got I thought me because he made a
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rampa for God's sake. Yeah,
read personal Grandpa over here. Every event
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towards the end of his life,
Lonnie would call me and go honey,
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and I go yes. She'd say, Mohammed has to go to New York
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to do this event? Would you
see it? And I went yes?
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She goes, I didn't tell you
the date I go doesn't matter. It
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doesn't matter. And I would fly
to wherever they wanted me to. And
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is there anything one specific thing you
would take out of spending all that time
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with him? Yeah? There's two
people in life. There's givers and there's
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takers. And he taught me twenty
to respect everybody and to fear nobody.
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I'm not afraid to come on your
podcast. I'm not afraid to coach men.
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I'm not afraid to play against men. I'm not afraid to be great.
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I'm not afraid to be Tej's mommy. He taught me I respect everybody.
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But he just gave me that resilience. And he was like, like
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I didn't have a father, and
you know, he was like my dad,
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my friend, my hero, and
he never let me go. I
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had him for thirty seven years.
And the best part is at his funeral,
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Billy Crystal spoke, you know,
and all the President Clinton. So
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I slide into my seat in louis
Yeah. Well the thing is, Billy
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Crystal lived in her neighborhood, for
God's sake. Well he's in New York,
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mansy. Why are you and I
even here? No, because I'm
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older than I remember. Remember the
pretty girls always hang with the ugly girls
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to make make them even prettier.
So that's why we're here. Yeah,
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that's good. Look, I'm fifty
five molder than all of you, and
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I've tried to take it off my
license after I put the gun back.
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But love story. I go to
the Young Young Center in Louisville. I
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fly in, I do the whole
you know, the what is it a
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procession by his old house and everything
in Louisville. And then I slide into
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my row and the guy goes,
hi, i am King Abdullah from and
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I go Hi, I go,
I'm a king too. And he goes
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and he goes, how can you
be a pig? And no, Billy
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Crystal was there, and he's like, I can't believe you're doing this.
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I'm a Sacramento king. I'm their
assistant Poe. And he just looks at
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me and he goes, what he
And I look at Billy and he goes,
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don't go there. Yeah, okay, were you wi the kings when
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Muhammad? Yeah? What are you
really? Yeah? Then I go,
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I'm a king. You cannot be
a king? No, I'm a king,
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trust me, I'm a king.
Yeah. You got to throw something
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in her winningness, which which brings
me to a good top. You're talking
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about right now, Nancy, as
far as you still talk about playing with
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men, we're not afraid of anything. Right. What's the big story now?
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Like women's college basketball right now?
Yes, of course that's the big
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story, right exactly. Yeah.
You offering her five million dollars to play
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is the big story in the three
v three league three. You three offered
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her five million dollars based salary to
play eight games. And you know she
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from she coached Blood, doesn't get
out much. No, no, no,
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I know that she's a she coaches
one of the big three teams.
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I coach Power. It was a
little tricky because Caitlin and I are good
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friends. She's she's gonna win my
point Guard of the Year award at the
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Final Four for the third time.
But since her freshman year, Coach Blueder
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has been so super nice hm to
allow me to zoom with the team to
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be a friend of the Iowa program. So she and I have become good
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friends. A matter of fact,
I was there Monday, her last game
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in Iowa, and after the game
and they let me come in the locker
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room. I still fangirl. I
feel fangirl around you guys because I just
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love sports and what great people have
done. And uh, we're in the
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locker room and she gave me her
game worn jersey and she autographed it and
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it smelled And the other day I
watched the game two nights ago and I
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wore it and I'm like, in
my house, I wore the Caitlin Clark
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autographed jersey, and I'm like,
yeah, but I wore no no,
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I had people over there, but
I also but I had aerosol, like
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you know, for breeze there in
her sports bra right. And people are
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like, well, mam, yeah
she uh. Who offered him the five
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million dollars? The Big Three?
Ice Cube? The Big Three, the
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Big Three, the league. Blood
doesn't get out much. You need to
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explain it to him, Nancy.
What is the Big Three? Explain to
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go ahead, Nancy. The Big
Three is it's three on three ice cube.
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Beat everybody to it seven years ago. He beat the Olympics, he'd
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beat the NBA, he beat college, he beat everybody to it. So
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this is his story. He wasn't
there the night the last game where Kobe
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scored sixty. He was doing a
concert somewhere. He goes back to his
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house and he's moping around for months
and Miss Kim, his wife, goes,
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oh Shay, that's his round name. Oh Shay, stop, you
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can't do this, Go do something
about it. So he calls his he's
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a great Laker and Oakland Raiders fan, and so are now Vegas Raiders.
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And they start talking about let's start
a three on three leagues, so when
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guys a retire, they have a
stepping stone. So the coaches in the
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Big three Doctor j George Gervin,
Clyde Drexler, Rick Mahorne, Rick Barry,
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Michael Cooper, Gary Payton, Lisa
Leslie, Nancy Lieberman are Hall of
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Fame coaches. It's amazing. And
we play in NBA arenas. It's ten
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weeks. If you go through the
playoffs from June to September one, we're
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getting fourteen fifteen thousand people all night. Our ratings are higher. We outrate
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in the summer golf, the WNBA, NBA, Summer League, soccer,
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in Major League Baseball. Because you're
on CBS, right, CBS, Yes,
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Yeah, Because it's the pace of
the game. There's a lot of
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energy. It seems more in too. The way it's the way the court's
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set up. It's you know the
NBA, you're there, you're if you're
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on one in the court, you're
you know, one hundred feet away.
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This it's a half court, right, so that everybody's right there. So
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you have that which brings I would
think bring more people in because of I
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got a chance to actually write what
what's everybody gonna do with their phone,
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taking selfies and everything else. Somebody
runs by, you get more changing.
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I think that's probably helps the contribute
Tolebs are there like Jason kidd Lebron James
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H. L Cool, Ja Snoop
Dog, all these, you know,
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Kanye West. A lot of celebrities
come and hang out. Well, you're
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one of them too. You're gonna
be a celebri ball. It's like the
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league. I mean it's a lot
right, Well, the players are,
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not the friends are, but the
players all that community is kind of supporting
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us. But if you go into
the AAC where we've played for five six
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years, and there's fifteen thousand people
there, white people, black people,
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brown people, Asian people, Muslim
people, shoes, Christians has been there.
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You came on my birthday, on
her birthday, and and my daughter
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and who knows, my kids were
big ice Cube fans, and so I
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go there. My kids are like, oh my god, that's ice Cube,
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and I go, well, we
can probably get them over. My
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kids are getting pictures with ice Cube. You know, it's just amazing.
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Eddie, you never know, just
got better looking. You want to sit
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up there, No kidding, Eddie, look at you. You guys,
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we're doing well. I think he's
gotten short. We got we got a
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mic for you, Eddie, do
you want to be in the Big three?
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Will give you the five million that
we gave to each here. That's
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I got the big german, Eddie, not her. Well this is a
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good crew. Yeah. When you
think about man, the roller Towns will
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keep it. How many how many
players are on the huast team? Five
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five players, so it's not think
about nine Grandpa's old timers Yankee Stadium.
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These guys are in sixty they're thirty
nine, forty forty two. But think
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about ten players to draw fifteen thousand
people. We've been to the Big three,
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right, So I think that the
NBA has a problem that they're going
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to have to buy that league out. Otherwise they started losing some some fans,
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which is fine. I mean there's
plenty to go around, sure,
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but because of the x NBA players
coming in and now there's like Yonga,
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guys, instead of going overseas to
play there, they staying here. And
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I don't blame them. I mean
you stay, you stay close to home,
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and yeah, but then but look
at what now the NBA is trying
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to compete with isn't isn't the Saudi's
aren't they trying to create a league as
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well? Now? So there's like
so much speculation, and I think that's
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the next money for the NBA.
Really, if I'm missed, I don't
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know if I'm wrong. I guard
that James bon got offered something like nine
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hundred million dollars to I mean,
I didn't hear that I go play in
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Saudi Arabia and he would have taken
it. I don't know if I wrote
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Harry, but I mean they've got
baseball, right, They've got a soccer
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league, they've got they got the
golf. Golfing is the one. Wouldn't
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basketball be be the next thing?
I mean it seems like I think they're
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going to become owners eventually, yeah, because there's no way. The franchise
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is the values they're at the top, so there's no way. And they're
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ready incorporate the new CVA or the
new TV deal into the pricing. That's
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one like sold for. Really,
what do you think ownership is going to
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allow that? Right? Does an
ownership have to vote on new buyers?
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Do you know who they own?
To say? Yeah? Do you think
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they're like money? Yeah? Yes, that's true. Quickly, Eddie Nahara,
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who's just joined us. We've got
Eddie Nancy Lever and a Hall of
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Famer, one of the greatest women's
basketball players ever cried two scrubs. Kevin
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Eddy is the first ever Mexican born
person to play in the NBA, to
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be drafted, to be drafted one
one one Mexican player that made it Passio
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Yamus Okay, great friend of mine, but he you know, he soake
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around for a couple of years.
He didn't play much. But I was
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the first one drafted in there and
had a great career with the Mavericks and
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other team. But somebody to look
up to, right growing up? He
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did look up to as far as
being a Mexican born player too as fire.
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Did you did you emulate him or
did you not even know of it?
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I actually you talked about the other
Mexican playing. Yes, I learned
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what not to do if I want
to be that's me blood. Did drink
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a beer, the big german beer? I can drink it. That guy
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was drinking like twenty beers when he
was playing in Active and I was like,
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dude, like, what are you
doing. Yeah, I played with
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we've all played with guys that drank
bloods. You're the you brought that guy
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drinking twenty beer queen period. Yes, it's a lubricant. Yes, there's
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nothing wrong with let's give the joints. Yes. Yeah, So what are
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you doing in these days? A
little bit of everything. I decided to
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walk away from a great job with
the Mavericks. I was very grateful with
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Mark and the whole staff because I
was there for five years as a talent
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evaluad and you know, honestly,
like I was a little afraid to walk
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away from, you know, but
ultimately I kind of build this courage and
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you know, have kids, and
I decided to take a one year off
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and not do anything and try to
figure it out. And finally, because
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of the NBA was great to me, so I ended up making and saving
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money. So then I started doing
my own investments in the US and in
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Mexico, and two of them are
doing really well, and one is actually
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a basketball team in the Pro League
in Mexico. Have a great partner,
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and I spent a lot of time
down there. I actually had Dwight Howard.
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He's interested in playing out in Mexico. He can name more money overseas.
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But I'm telling you played thirty eight
and I wanted, why can I
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coach to Mexico? You can come
and coach, Nancy. I realized how
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many jobs you have asked me to
co coach. You're a celebrity golf host.
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I mean, do you have time
for all this, Nancy? I
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do. I do. Let me
tell you about Eddie. Eddie is one
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of the most amazing human beings.
How many years ago, seven years ago,
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he asked Del Harris and myself to
come to Chihuahua where he grew up.
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He's legendary there the respect that he
has. We went to Chihuahua because
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who he is. It was.
We were there two or three days.
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We were treated like royalty, and
we did clinics, we had translators.
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I'm grateful, that is what I
was going to say, So thank you.
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No, it's been an incredible journey. And going back to your original
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question of what I'm doing, I
do that still in my hometown because to
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me, I think that it's a
role model, especially for Mexican kids in
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my country and so in the US. But then we have we have we
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have to be there and we have
to make sure that we share the knowledge.
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I mean, I was fortunate enough
to play for great coaches, great
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minds, so I got I got
to know basketball at the highest level.
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Then I got to be around icons
like like Nancy and then she also,
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like was my mentor when I was
coaching. So all these little things that
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I came and built up. I
mean, I'm trying to kind of share
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that throughout our country because basketball is
the number two sport in our country.
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Soccro always still a number one,
and it's up and coming. And that's
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the reason I got into the business
of basketball with the Basketball League down in
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Mexico, and that's taking a lot
of my time. But I'm having such
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an incredible time to the point that
I didn't want to give me involvement in
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politics. And that's where I put
the brakes. I was like, no,
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no, no, no politics for
me. Yeah, that's where it
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starts y and then usually where it
ends in policy, I think I think
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about it. Yeah, yeah,
So to that end, you know,
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as a Texan, I worry about
Mexico, right, is it? Because
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you know I think Texans kind of
view sort of everybody that's coming across the
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border and stuff as if they are
Mexican, which you know, if you
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look at it at all, we
know they're not. Is Mexico am I
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okay to worry about it? Or
is it? Is it getting better?
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Are there is there improvement there?
Do I need to worry about that that
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place as a country heavy well?
The beauty of Mexico is our neighbors,
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the US, So I believe that
the US has a correct influence in our
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country. No matter what party is
running the country or what they do,
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we do down there. We still
depend on the US economy, so we
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still have sort of the same structure
as the US. There is corruption,
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of course, as any where in
the in the world. But at the
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end of the day, I think
that it's gotten so much better as the
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new generations up and coming politicians.
They're younger, smarter, They got educated
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in the US in grade DI,
ivy league schools and all that, so
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they're going back and giving back to
the country and I think that eventually will
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be a better country. For sure. You talk about basketball being the growth.
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It's always been a soccer country,
right, Mexico has with so when
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you were growing up as a kid, was it always soccer and then basketball
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just happened, you know with you
know, so the growth over the last
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thirty years has it been more basketball
than it has been soccer because you think
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about globally, hockey is really never
going to grow other than here in Canada.
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It's not going to grow over your
basketball for sure. Baseball soccer Europe,
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yeah, but not the way that
basketball. There's low costs, right,
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low cost So he's here and we
have more basketball courts in Mexico than
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than soccer than any other sport.
And now because of full salt end of
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soccer, they used being utilized for
that particular. But at the same time,
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we do have great infrastructure when it
comes to like gems, like Mexico
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City has two NBA top of arenas, Monterey has one. We have an
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arena that holds about fifteen thousand people. We also I own a piece of
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that team as well in my hometown
and we actually drove about twelve thousand per
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game. So it's up and coming
and I think that there's a great opportunity
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for business there as long as you
know, you get the right partners.
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And I do have a couple of
guys in there that are incredible. They
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don't depend on the government. They
don't have any contracts with the government.
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They actually strictly business and they do
it throughout the world, so world wide
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brands, Mexican guys that they supported
my career and also supporting my new endeavors
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with basketball in Mexico. And we're
doing it for biggest leak of the community.
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That's really what we're doing it for. Like we're investing money so can
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start utilizing basketball was a tool to
make sure that we implement those values and
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fundamentals that that we need, you
know, daily life. Yeah, I
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mean thinking about what you know in
the NFL takes a game to Mexico City,
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right, which is big right now? I think the well the help
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the NFL is going to Brazil this
year. The Eagles opened in Brazil of
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all places, and seeing that,
I mean the growth, it's got to
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be over two hundred percent from when
you were a kid, right, it
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was really soccer and then maybe basketball
was just something to do. I mean
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the last I won't believe the last
ten years basketball exploded, Okay, but
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I think it's the NBA. They
may have done an incredible job going global
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and going back to my point with
the NBA, the French value at the
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top. So now they have to
get creative. So how do you continue
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growing? Right? And Saudi are
a radio that's you were describing it.
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Those probably the new people coming in
paying like top dollars. But to me,
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it's like you're topping to you have
Canada. So now you taped me
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to Mexico with one hundred and thirty
million people live in there, So let's
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say you capture fifty million. Now
you're Amazon is still not going in Mexico's
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trying to penetrate the market, which
you know Amazon and Apple, all these
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big corporations, they also tapped out
in the US and they have all their
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clients. Yeah, we have what
two hundred and thirty million here in the
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US. They probably covered like two
hundred million. So now they have to
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expand, and so does the NBA
and nothing that. That's where I've been
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and I've been talking to the website
is. I had a conversation with the
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commissioner not so long ago, like
how come we don't have a franchise in
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Mexico. I think it's just a
matter of time. It has to happen.
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Exactly along the lines of Menti's first
question Soccer than basketball, Like,
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we're in Dirk's restaurant, your former
teammate. We're in Dirk's restaurant. Dirk
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was a tennis player, right,
and all of a sudden, he's seven
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feet tall, and he's like,
maybe I should try this basketball thing.
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Have you seen him on a BaFL
field? Funny, we've been playing heroes
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forever. I wonder, yeah,
he said, he said it. That's
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just former teammate hen talking. I
gut, you've seen him, like,
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kick a ball. I'm like,
dude, like, what are you doing?
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Really right? No? Play what
I was saying, he can play
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tennis. He can play, yeah, really good. I think he'd be
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very pickaball and I have to move
very far. He's got to move at
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all. Yeah. So, but
Eddie, did you start as a soccer
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player and then all of a sudden
you got really tall? So I started
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as a soccer player. Everybody started
as a soccer player in Mexico. And
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then my father was a pro baseball
player. So then I got to try
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to follow the food stamps. Uh. Then at fourteen, I went from
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being six feet to six eights.
Uh, this is the beauty of Mexican,
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Right, So I went and try
out in high school, my first
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mamani. In high school, I
went to try out for the baseball team.
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The coach looked at me from my
feet all the way up, this
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little show guy, Mexican guy,
and then he had the nerve to say,
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like, I don't need you in
baseball, why don't you go try
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out for basketball? So he gave
me the best advice. He killed my
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dream. Of course, yeah,
baseball, because you don't say that baseball
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feel. It's not it's okay,
better and dirt. Oh no, no,
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I've done back then. I mean
I remember I was throwing eighty four
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miles per hour like when I was
thirteen thirteen. Yeah, they Randy Johnson
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time. Well he has letting it
go and the catcher's mitt. And I
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wish Mexico was like the US.
I mean the US. You have private
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wealth investing in our communities, right, and it's a good business. Like
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you have so many uh so many
gyms, multi sports gyms where you can
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go train and and it's a good
business. Mexico doesn't have no structure,
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so you have to defend in the
US. Once you get to a level
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like myself at seventeen, Okay,
now I can play basketball at a high
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level. I dominated Mexico, so
I have to go to the best market,
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which it was the US. And
I was lucky enough to make that
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decision. Uh. But going back
to question, like soccer baseball, and
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that guy killed my dream in baseball. So I went to bash school when
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I started, and I always worked
my ass off to get to where I
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am And it wasn't given to me. And I'm paying for it right now
473
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and I'm sure Nancy can agree with
it. To hear replacement two years ago,
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I need to have these replaces in
my bag. Wow, Because I
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was not as talented as a big
german, so I had to like scoci
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fast my body for the most part. But I love it. You were
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diving, you were setting screens.
You were the guy who was energizing the
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team and everybody you know in baseball, football, you know hockey, somebody
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has to do the dirty work.
Yeah, so luds did dettonhot right,
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rocking shots. Think about it as
entertaining, But as athletes at twenty years
481
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.719
old, think about did you worry
about how your body's gonna fell me?
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You're forty five plastic or Roberts,
Except I was stitched and do all these
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things, which is why yeah,
which is why I have. We can't
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wake up in the morning without something
hurting. I mean, I'm the youngest
485
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of this group, but I still
feel eighty five. My he does because
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of like you said, we don't
think about this generation you talk. What'd
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you call him earlier? Les Alpha? The new generation? Yeah, alphas?
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It works, not there anymore.
They watch and they're better automatically.
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They automatically get better as opposed to
how we were raised the doing part.
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What do you guys think about these
new athletes like gamers that don't even put
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that athlete in there? No,
I should have done that. Yeah,
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when your body'd be better. Obviously
you don't have to deal with have your
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original hip, wouldn't you? You
don't have to deal with carpal tunnel?
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Right that guy you know listening to
Eddie talk, how many times did you
495
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hear the word investment? Because you've
done a lot of that, right,
496
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is he the next mister oneerful?
Wonderful made from the Shark Tank Mexican version
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of the Shark Tank, not even
close lance. You could join the panel.
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I'm in, I'm in. See
there you go, I'm in.
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But you know, but it's just
growing and growing and growing. Well,
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that's like volleyball too. Right now
we're having volleyball in twenty twenty five Professional
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Women's Volleyball Federation, which just started
Dallas is going to have a team next
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year. My first year in the
w when I was coaching in GM and
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Detroit, the I would say the
franchises were maybe worth five million dollars.
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00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:17.519
They're being evaluated now at ninety million
with wnba wnba wnba ninety million because of
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00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:27.559
what's happened since COVID. It's amazing
the opportunities that remind me of your path
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you and Eddie's coaching paths crossing.
He was first of all, Eddie does
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not discriminate against anybody. We're minorities. And when he got the coaching job
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with the Legends and I was there
their first coach and assistant GM, we
509
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.039
knew each other, but he reached
out and we would watch film and we
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would talk. And did he follow
you as coach? Was he the next
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coach? After year? Is it
Dell first? For a little bit,
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it was Dell's second, wasn't it
you were first? Then me did a
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00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.400
good job. They actually held their
name Legends, not so me so much
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me as don't have Nancy Liverman the
best there. It was actually pretty cool
515
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.840
and I really that's when I learned
a bit of the business. So I
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00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:22.639
got involved with the Allegends as as
as the ownership group, and I started
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00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:28.920
seeing like some potential there. In
fact, when I have this conversation with
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Adam, I mean I might be
going to New York next week to meet
519
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:37.559
with them because I wanted that G
League team, and they use somebody else,
520
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local guy that I know, and
then he was calling me to try
521
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to sell me the team, and
I was like, wait a second,
522
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yeah, And so now now they're
they're kind of flirting with me again.
523
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But because I know and I learned
from the Text of Ladies about coaching,
524
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about running the team, and also
about ownership, now feel comfortable going into
525
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business, and I feel comfortable bringing
some of my friends as investors to put
526
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some money into it, because at
the end of the day, I think
527
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that the G League is continuing to
grow, just like Nancy said, the
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w NBA, now it's a ninety
million that's that's incredible, incredible, And
529
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by the way, we do have
owned two female and that's that's a requirement
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for US men's you have to have
a female team that I haven't even got
531
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to it. We have to operate
twenty twenty five, so I do have
532
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.159
time men's basketball. We have to
operate like in the next three or four
533
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.400
months. But eventually I'm gonna have
to come back to you because I need
534
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:38.840
players, any coaches, I need
a whole structure. If you want to
535
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.559
take it, Nancy, your coach, we can. He'll be the commissioner.
536
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.800
You talk about the growth, you
talk about the professional women's professional volleyball,
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Correct, Nancy, that's coming.
But I've had discussion with athletic directors
538
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in the North Texas area about most
a lot of girls when they get to
539
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high school, they go away from
basketball and they go to volleyball the only
540
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reason they go away. I just
had this conversation. Some women don't like
541
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the physicality soccer. They want to
play sect. No, it's not the
542
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.559
running, it's it's you know,
in hockey you get hit on every play.
543
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.639
You're going to get hit that he
was talking, Yeah, but that's
544
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the alphas. You know, even
in basketball, you know it's going to
545
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be physical, but it's not going
to be every single play, but women
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I haven't. I've had my basketball
camps here for forty four years. We've
547
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had three hundred thousand kids come through
camp. They don't want to get hit,
548
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:34.360
and so when they don't want to
get hit, they go to volleyball
549
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.199
to hit, but not the physicality
on them. That's just I mean,
550
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just think about how we were raised. That just goes because we're just talking
551
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about the generational thing of how we
were raised to fight through stuff. It's
552
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almost as if they don't want to
fight through it. They want to take
553
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.480
the easy path to I don't know
how big volleyball is in Mexico, if
554
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.719
it's even if it's even thought of. As far as you know, soccer,
555
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.960
I know baseball's big. Benji Gill
is a good buddy of mine,
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right coaching team mexicoach. You know
the semi final. Yeah, so you
557
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know, Benji. But baseball and
then and then basketball. But is there
558
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anything else that you know? Like
we said, the numbers just seem to
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any especially at the high school level. So so at the college level,
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seems like the numbers would be down
to no. Numbers are all up because
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there's more girls playing sports now.
You can you know, kind of divide
562
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and conquer. But you know with
Nils with the money they're getting. With
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the money, like in the NBA
is getting better. The college coaches female
564
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making a million as Don Staley Kim
Mogi just finished signing thirty five million dollar
565
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.480
contracts. I'm the highest paid coach
in the in the Big Three. And
566
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you know, I mean, it's
nice when somebody who is ownership believes in
567
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:51.840
you. I've been a GM with
the with the Legends, with the Detroit
568
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.400
Shock in the W So not only
can you coach, but you can be
569
00:40:54.519 --> 00:41:00.880
a GM like Eddie. Eddie brought
some sponsors from Mexico, some ownership money.
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I think maybe from China, right, you brought your buddies or that
571
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.079
was Johnny was China. But you
were on the logo on the floor.
572
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So you know, we're not just
one trick ponies. I'm more like we're
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entrepreneurial. Uh athletes. Yeah,
you know we're athletes, and but we
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were doing it in our career.
We didn't know probably that we were connecting
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a lot of dots. But you
know, so nance let's because you were
576
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.280
talking about women and taking that punishment, right, and we talked you and
577
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.360
I talked last night about Caitlin taking
the five million, which we don't know
578
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.199
if she's going to do. I
don't even know if she's had the offer
579
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.800
presented to her yet. Person she
has not. Okay, I didn't think
580
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:50.280
she had anyway. But you told
me you're one of the maybe the only
581
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.480
person in the world who knows what
it's like. I mean, look at
582
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.519
the size difference between you and Eddie
and if you were in when you were
583
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:02.039
playing, you played again men and
a guy Eddie's size set a screen on
584
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.480
you. Yeah, what is that
like? Look in nineteen eighty I had
585
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.639
no pro league. I didn't have
a pro league in my prime in eighty.
586
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.280
I think Eddie knows this. But
Doctor Bus and Jerry West called me.
587
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.880
I was playing in a men's league
in New York and they did Jane
588
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.400
Poly did a thing on me.
Doctor Buss saw it. They called me
589
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.559
the next day and they said,
we want you to play for the Lakers
590
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.960
in summer League. Your coach is
going to be a young coach. It's
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00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.519
his first time. His name is
Pat Riley. He did not want me
592
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.880
on his team. I even have
the video of this with Pat and I
593
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:42.840
didn't in his mind's eye look like
the point guard that he would recognize.
594
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.639
So I fly to La. I'm
out there. I'm getting my ass beat
595
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:53.400
every practice. He tells his story
years later that you know, he says
596
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:58.239
to the coaches, he goes,
what the hell are we going to do
597
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.880
with her? They beat the crap
out of her, They knock her down,
598
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.639
She doesn't cry, and she tried
to start two fistfights in practice.
599
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.239
Eighty year, twenty two years old. I was twenty two years old,
600
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.559
and four days later I was just
starting point guard because I wasn't afraid,
601
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:17.079
and you know, you go on, you can't be afraid. Well,
602
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.679
well we've got we just want to
let you know what's going on. We've
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00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.719
got a bunch of airport executives who
are checking us out right now, which
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00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.159
is awesome. It's great welcome.
We love to see you. Thank you
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all for being here, and we
are helping to make people realize what an
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00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:38.519
awesome concept a dirt novisky type restaurant
is. There are lots of them throughout
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00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:44.800
the country and that's through our Playmaker's
brand and Eddie, I want you to
608
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.440
weigh in for us on you know, some of your best recollections of Dirk
609
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.239
being your teammate. I mean,
this guy was. He's iconic. He's
610
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.320
unbelievable. He's so fun and friendly
and down to earth. What do you
611
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.679
remember? So I remember getting drafted
by the Mavericks and I was there was
612
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:08.000
four rookies Corney, Alexander Ayton,
Thomas, Donald Harvey, and I was
613
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:14.239
a second rounder. They flew on
Mark Ewan's plane to Dallas. I flew
614
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:19.880
southwest and I was like, so
I got there. I was like,
615
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.519
okay, whatever, but I guess
what. The number one guy that greeted
616
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:28.440
me was dark, no kidding.
Derek showed me the city around, and
617
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.159
I had no guarantee contract. I
was a second rounder, so I didn't
618
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.559
even know. I didn't know if
I was well. I knew I was
619
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.239
gonna make the team. There was
no questions there, there was no doubts
620
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.960
in He didn't know that. He
didn't know that nobody else in the organization
621
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.440
knew whether I was gonna make the
team or not because I had a known
622
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:51.480
guarantee contract. But he showed me
around, took me around. Obviously,
623
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.000
I kind of got to learn his
personality. Being from Germany's they're different.
624
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.039
Was like, I'm different being from
Mexico, so he's his jokes were a
625
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:06.239
little more. It was more at
mobive dry sense of humor. But at
626
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.840
the end of the day, like
we hit it off and we had something
627
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.719
in common. We were foreigners in
a big city. I was coming from
628
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:19.559
Norman, Oklahoma. He was coming
from Germany, a small town. Yeah,
629
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.559
and we actually hit it off.
And he started like showing me taking
630
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.559
me around dinners and this and that. I was like, Wow, this
631
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.840
guy's been so nice to me.
But anyway, it's low story short.
632
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:36.360
Now we fast forward to basketball.
He would not let Sean Brawley garden,
633
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:42.199
he would not let anybody as at
me garden. And again no guarantee contract,
634
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.400
and he would tell me like,
do not take it to him.
635
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.599
And I was like, dude,
I'm gonna get you hurt. You don't
636
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.639
under state like I can go as
far as you want. But that was
637
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.400
that's when I knew that he was
gonna be special because everybody criticized me his
638
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:01.280
first two years, the typical European
player finales game saw and they were right.
639
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.679
I mean, he was young.
He was eighteen when he got to
640
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.800
Dallas. When when I got drafted, he was twenty and I was already
641
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.679
twenty two. He's two years actually
younger than me. But doing the playoffs
642
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.960
when the game was on the line, the first three or four years,
643
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.960
he couldn't drivel, he couldn't shoot. He would throw it away or he
644
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.679
would do something. But the one
thing that I can tell you is his
645
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.079
resilience. He would get back into
it. He would delete that play and
646
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.920
get back into it. And he
was actually fearless. And he has a
647
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.880
quote that I really really enjoyed that
he said it. We said like when
648
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:45.840
he came to pressure, he actually
he loves being in that situation. He
649
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.719
actually said something else. I'm not
sure I make love to pressure. That's
650
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:52.920
when he put it out. I
was like, whoa, that's actually pretty
651
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:58.760
cool, dude. So then I
got traded and then I came back around
652
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.199
and he was like the off his
guy on the team, and I was
653
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.079
like, what the hell. So
then he was like Getty doing practice.
654
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.880
Uh, you know the special situations
one played. Obviously the ball is going
655
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.960
to dark. And he would tell
me like, all right, come on,
656
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.079
let's see what you got. And
the first time the second time I
657
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.679
came around, this guy put his
shoulder on my chin. I think I
658
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.480
had a concussion. Didn't even know
it, but I was like, what
659
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.280
the hell, dude, Like,
why do you have to be so aggressive?
660
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:28.639
Now? I was asking him to
slow down. Yeah, yeah,
661
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.800
because he was so incredible. He
was ready to be the MVP and always
662
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.320
to win the championship with the following
year they wanted. Yeah, so you
663
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.079
were you were there when they went
to the finals in eighty six. I
664
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:46.239
mean in the ninety she how do
you think, I don't even know he's
665
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:50.639
not a baby boomer. Yeah,
twenty thousand and six. Yeah, so
666
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:59.880
I'm kindab well the guys. I
was one of those guys that now they
667
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.159
use of my contract situation. Thank
god. I was blessed and I was
668
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.079
making enough money, but I got
traded for Eric Dan Pierre to Golden State.
669
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.880
So I went from the best organization
to the worst at that time.
670
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.679
Now Golden State has grown. He's
the only place that I asked for a
671
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.320
trade because they we're not playing me
and they were paying me all this money.
672
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.960
And we had a younger coach in
Mike Montgomery, and I could tell
673
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.079
he was a little tentative about Dale
Davis. Cliff Robinson was in the team
674
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:30.440
and so I was like the third
guy. But anyways, I asked for
675
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:37.400
a trade. So when I came
back in twenty ten, Derg was incredible.
676
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:45.440
I mean he played defense. I
mean the last the finals against Miami,
677
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:52.199
I think he broke his finger and
he continued playing on shooting him so
678
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.960
he continued playing. Now, when
we went to the Western Finals, he
679
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:00.920
actually sprang his knee and I saw
him practice and I get it, don
680
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.800
nails. Nelly was wouldn't let protected
him, wouldn't play, and I'm like,
681
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.000
look at him, like, dude, like we needed I was.
682
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.920
I was. I was playing in
one leer. I just have surgery that
683
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.639
I was supposed to take a year
off. Came back in seven weeks and
684
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.760
I'm like, you need to play. And that was my moment's shot with
685
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.320
the championship. And when he shut
they shot him down. He wanted to
686
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:27.719
play, Nelly said, and that
right was that game seven against It was
687
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.199
actually the third game against the Spurs, and just never came back. And
688
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.599
there was some finals and all that, and then Della said, we have
689
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.920
the nets. We had like the
the easy way. So I told him
690
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.760
that I'm winning the whole thing.
Yeah, great, but think about what
691
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:45.360
he just said about Nelly. Nelly
Saw had a vision of the future.
692
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.039
And there's a lot of coaches,
right you know this who they will grind
693
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.960
you to, you know, in
all of our sports if they think you
694
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:58.719
can help them win. Because a
coach, Chuck Dailey said this to me
695
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.880
when I was coaching in the right
He goes, Nancy, I was the
696
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.480
first time coach. He goes,
go get the yearbook or you know,
697
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.360
the little book that the media gets. He goes, go to Ron Harper
698
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.960
and I go to Ron Harper and
it says Ron has been you know,
699
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.440
all Pro, all this All Star
game, and he goes, this man
700
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.000
has lost seventy percent of all the
games he's ever played in, and it
701
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.079
sounds like he's going to be a
Hall of Famer, but he's lost.
702
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.360
He goes, now, go to
my book and it says, Chuck Daily
703
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.320
is three hundred and fifty nine.
You're only judged by your wins and losses
704
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.360
as a coach. Yep, we
got to get Daddie out of here.
705
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.559
That's so too bad. And he's
got to go kiss babies. That's what
706
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.639
you do. He's got enough to
do. I mean, Eddie's Eddie's here
707
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.800
for a reason. It wasn't just
say we can't set one of these up
708
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.840
some down in Chihuahua in Mexico.
Right, that's right, so hey,
709
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.679
maybe Eddie will be Eddies could be
Lallos. That's my big name. Yeah,
710
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.039
that's right in DFW. There you
go, definitely Chia. Let's make
711
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.559
sure we go talking. Derek's the
guy to talk to. Let's get you
712
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:05.039
a rest. You for having me
as I could hang with you, guys,
713
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.920
you could. Ye, you're in
New York. You're going to stab
714
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:15.039
somebody. I was recording to stab
somebody. I was in a dress and
715
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:20.159
patent leather shoes and this guy was
making fun of me when I was ten
716
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.760
and my shoes slipped as I tried
to scabble. Second, so you were
717
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:30.960
in a mini skirt and high heels. He just changed that. I'm not
718
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:36.480
a hooker looker. Yeah, but
you were in the dress up the here,
719
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.119
No, I was in it.
I was ten. I wasn't trying
720
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.599
to sell it broad at that time. I was ten. Don't say anything,
721
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.159
Nancy. So I had a plastic
I was in New York. We
722
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.480
were and I had a plastic knife. But the guy was irritating me,
723
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:59.440
and I got mad at him with
my flaming red hair and I went to
724
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.599
stab them with my knife, and
my shoe slipped on them and my teeth
725
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.800
hit and I broke my teeth.
I didn't build up, and my mother
726
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.639
was so upset with me. My
my dad brought me back home the marble
727
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.840
at my teeth. No, your
teeth hit the marble. Now, if
728
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.119
you were a helpa and today's day
and did that on a subduing the floor
729
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.960
company, you'd be getting the lecor
chair right now. Then getting letting out,
730
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.719
yeahs letting the word left with it
done. Now I'm telling you that
731
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.639
I had to stab somebody, I
would I we're going to say the guy
732
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.440
punched you. Wait, Dave?
What was Dave? Your coach? Dave
733
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.159
Tibbott. Okay, When I got
the job with the Legends, Dave calls
734
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.159
me. He goes come come to
the Star Center in Frisco. He gets
735
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.800
me on skates and I was a
little shaky on the skates, but I
736
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.039
really want to learn how to go
backwards. I don't know how. So
737
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.880
he gave me the gloves and everything, and two minutes in I fell my
738
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.199
gloves up and I'm pushing him and
trying to fight him. Oh I know.
739
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.599
But he's like, do you want
to fight or do you want to
740
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.519
skate? I'm like, I want
to really rather fight from New York.
741
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.639
What do you expect? First,
you weren't wearing the same short dress at
742
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.960
the time with you, I would
know ice girl. I didn't. I'm
743
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:28.719
not an ice girl. But I'd
love to drive the zamboni. I'm sure
744
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.119
we can give you one. You
can drive around town like you're probably you
745
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.199
ever have you ever driven one?
Yes? You have once? One time
746
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.440
you drunk once. No, I
was younger, It's like fourteen years old,
747
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.800
so I was Nancy. She was
apparently ten, dressing for the town.
748
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:45.760
Yeah, that's training, like pretty
woman. What do you guys got
749
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.440
to? Where's your car? My
car has been totaled as him yesterday,
750
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.559
and he sold his bike. But
I'm getting but that's by design. He
751
00:53:55.679 --> 00:54:00.960
saw a bike. We went to
the shoe the data we're done shooting somebody
752
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.119
one went to the Harley shop.
Yeah, sold it and I said,
753
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.039
well here's what I want. We
can do that, you know, And
754
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.360
then my car got totally as of
yesterday from the hailstorm. Yeah, but
755
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.920
I'm gonna bring it back. I'm
sorry, but you're gonna buy a new
756
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.159
bike. You're gonna bring a wout
whatever I took. I apologize. Oh
757
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.159
yeah, you but you're buying a
new bike. Yeah. I think Macy
758
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:22.360
could run a Harley. You know
what your ball? The ball said Neil.
759
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:28.840
He says he's gonna let me come
out take batting practice and have a
760
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.559
UNI group my name on it.
Because the last time when Buck was there
761
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:37.159
and Dion and I went, did
we walk in and Dion has a uniform
762
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.159
that says Sanders, he has a
hat, a belt, and and they're
763
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:44.119
like, I'm like, we had
a T shirt for you, give you
764
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:50.559
a Ranger's T shirt. And I'm
like, isn't that right? Like really,
765
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.079
yeah, well hey that's bucked for
you, by the way, Yeah
766
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.400
yeah, but he let me use
this parking spot underneath, So you have
767
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.840
to give you a uniform, give
me a uniform, let me get an
768
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:07.199
account. Speaking of uniforms, bastling
Nancy today, what he came in here
769
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:13.000
with a Dirk Novitski jersey so that
he could sign it for him? Did
770
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:17.039
he and that on his wall?
But he ran off on so you didn't
771
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.320
get there to sign it. Yet
he ran off. I'll get him later,
772
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.440
we'll get him, we'll see him
again. I'm gonna get a Nancy
773
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:23.719
Leebman. I'm gonna have her sign
it, and you're gonna wear it around
774
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.079
town. Let's I would be proud
to wear that. You wouldn't you take
775
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.360
in your closet? Like? Do
we have a male and female legend on
776
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:34.679
that jersey? I wanted to get
a game one one so it stinks,
777
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.119
right, Oh my gosh, this
thing smelled so stinking. Bet he's gonna
778
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.639
person Nancy. No, no,
she got to pick up it. But
779
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.760
look at this Caitlin's jersey. She
gave me after the game Monday, and
780
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:52.159
I was so super happy, so
I wore it during the game Monday.
781
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.639
Yeah, it's stunk. It smells. She's sweat, Nancy. But she
782
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.320
signed it to me and took it
off from her back. How many times
783
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.039
have you done that? A lot? But that was cool of her,
784
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.920
right? Cool? No, very
cool? Yeah. Now, so let
785
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:08.840
me ask you this, and we
got to get off. We gotta beat
786
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.920
up. I gotta go. Let
me ask you what are we doing the
787
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.559
show here? Yeah, we're still
doing So let me ask you this yes,
788
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:19.199
can they beat flipping LSU? This
year it's a one against the three?
789
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.159
Can they Can they beat LSU?
I want them to beat I love
790
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.920
her. I want them to beat
LSU. They're not as athletic as LSU
791
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.039
is, and LSU's a better rebounding
team and Kim Wlkey's a good coach.
792
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.960
I mean, I think the physicality
of LSU is going. What's gonna separate
793
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.440
the right because they're going to isolate
her, They're going to make the rest
794
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.400
of the team. What do you
do in sports as coaches and t what
795
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.599
do you do? You isolate their
best player and get beat by the rest,
796
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.519
right, And that's what they're gonna
do. Well. Last year she
797
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:46.280
had forty one against them. Oh
she did. Yeah. In the in
798
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.679
the championship game, she had forty
one and they lost by sixteen points.
799
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.079
Okay, can we stop talking about
sports for a second? Can we can
800
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.760
we hear I want to hear how
they can of corn and your charity cam
801
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:06.480
Oh wow? What corn? Your
can of corn? Really? Yes?
802
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:10.440
I want to can you give us
You're gonna cry? Okay? So yes,
803
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:15.000
I was poured out a can of
corn for me to go to the
804
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.199
Olympics. Yes, I can't believe
you remember that. It's true. He's
805
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.599
had a lot of concussions. I
don't know how he remembers anything name,
806
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.760
but he remembers that. I'm sorry. He calls it alcoholism. He called
807
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:31.599
me Karen before. So I'm fourteen
years old. I get to go to
808
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.280
a tryout. I come home and
I go, Ma, Mama, I'm
809
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.559
going to the US tryouts. And
she goes like, hell you are.
810
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.639
I don't have money to put food
on the table. I can't fly you
811
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.440
to Albuquerque. This can of corn
they opened it, they cleaned it,
812
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.880
and they put an envelope that said
we're endeavoring to raise three hundred dollars to
813
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:54.480
send Nancy to the US tryouts.
This is nineteen seventy four. Strangers put
814
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.639
money in a can, and I
had enough to go to the tryouts.
815
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:05.119
Where were they n New Mexico.
And it was amazing, Like I was
816
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.440
like a sophomore in high school and
this is Pat Summit and Lucy Harris and
817
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:15.360
these are Hall of Famers and Myers. I was overwhelmed with I had never
818
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.360
seen so many great women play.
And then the next year I make the
819
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:23.239
Pan Am team as a junior,
we win the gold. Then my senior
820
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:28.440
year we win the silver, and
I'm still in high school. I wish
821
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.079
I knew where the people. I'm
sure they're no longer with us because that
822
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:36.079
we're so generous to put money in
a can that went door to door in
823
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.800
far rockaway. So if that can
happen to me, we can do stuff
824
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:45.440
for other people. People did it
on blind faith and kindness. I'm not
825
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:51.079
here with you, guys. If
strangers didn't help me, I had nothing.
826
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:52.880
I had no food, no heat, no electricity, no father.
827
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:59.280
That's where I'm at right now.
Christmas Tree though at the house, but
828
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:04.480
we got four they're still around a
lot of Yeah, but that's part of
829
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.760
your charity. That that's the only
reason I do it, because like I
830
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.800
didn't wake up at fifty or make
like us make good money and then say
831
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.519
I have a conscience about helping people. I know what it's like to feel
832
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:24.639
less. I know what it's like
to not have It sucks to have that
833
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.239
in your life. We can take
a perfectly wonderful child who maybe doesn't look
834
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:36.320
like us, and we can be
dream givers, not hopestealers. I have
835
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.400
so many Nancy Camp moments. Nancy
can't do that. Nancy, you can't
836
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.039
do that. Nancy. You can't
be around you know luds, you can't
837
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:46.400
be around you know menche or Atigan, you know girls, don't. Who
838
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:52.199
were you to tell me what I
can be? You should be encouraging me.
839
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:57.679
And even if it doesn't happen.
I mean, look at Billy Jean
840
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.760
King. Look what she did for
me. What were you ten years old
841
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.679
when you started playing at Rucker Park? Twelve Rocker you know, yeah,
842
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.199
Rutger Park a park in New York. It is the place where every great
843
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:12.599
player from New York goes and they
play pick up, right, most of
844
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.679
them, we've we've heard of,
right, all these kids that come through
845
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.199
Rucker Park make it to the NBA. Nancy's there's a twelve year old and
846
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.440
somebody, thank goodness, they take
me. Obviously it's a bunch of African
847
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:27.360
American kids who are who are really
good at basketball, and somebody took her
848
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.840
under their wing and said let's go. Doesn't it sound like, Nancy that
849
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:36.360
that little children's work at the engine
that could little that isn't that new?
850
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:42.239
It is Dion talks about. Dion
talks about that everybody has his story.
851
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.639
I'm you know, I don't look
at myself as a minority. I know
852
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:52.199
I'm a woman and technically in this
world. But my job is I'm a
853
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.960
risk taker. I'm a rule breaker. When I say rule breaker, you
854
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.840
know I'm not, you know,
running a stealing. But you can't tell
855
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:01.440
me. I can't coach man.
You can't tell me I can't win a
856
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.039
championship. You can't tell me I
can't. Dirk and I and think about
857
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:13.920
this in all the years we've been
here together. In twenty twenty three,
858
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:21.280
Dirk Novitzky and me were inducted into
the Nasmith Basketball Hall of Fame together my
859
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:25.079
Olympic team went in. I've already
been in, and we go in,
860
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.920
and we looked at each other and
went, can you believe we're the class
861
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:35.559
of twenty twenty three? You can
never take that away. Baseball was my
862
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:43.000
best sport. Bobby Mercer was my
hero, my hero in baseball. Hockey
863
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.760
was my favorite best sport. Growing
up. We used to play roller hockey.
864
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:52.400
I was Eddie Jockerman, Remember Eddie
no face mask. I mean we
865
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.159
had, like I said, the
gagline and Walter Kochuk and all these guys,
866
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.679
my mother's like, what is wrong
with you? My mother took me
867
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:07.400
to a psychologist when I was eleven
years old because I used to sleep with
868
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:13.719
the transistor listening and more of Albert
all the hockey games, and you know,
869
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.760
Jockman is between the pipes and only
God saved more than Bernie Parant.
870
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:23.719
Right, I'm you except older.
Well, you're a sports we think about
871
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:28.599
talking about what we as athletes are
generating. Right, Luds didn't even know
872
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.480
he was going to college and they
told me he was. I mean,
873
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.079
right, you tell us you can't
do it. They tell us, you
874
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:35.239
know you're too small, you know
you're not going to do this. But
875
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.079
that just it speaks volumes to what
we were taught told as kids that you're
876
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.679
not it's you can't play. Those
are boys. You can't do it,
877
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.119
Luds, you can't do it.
This is just you know, I can't
878
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:46.559
do it because of this. But
look at what it's done, because I
879
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.719
think that's what's missing from this generation
now, of people telling them they can't
880
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.320
do it. Okay, then I'll
just go you know what else does everybody
881
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.280
tells them they can now? Yeah, oh yeah, especially their parents.
882
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.800
Well that's why everybody, here's your
trophy, anticipate you canborate, which in
883
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:06.800
tull shit, the whole participation thing
is BS. There's gonna be a winner
884
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:10.119
and a loser. Like I once
asked Kobe and uh Lebron, I said,
885
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:13.280
are you okay? Like how much
money you make? And they're like,
886
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:15.840
what you know? Like ninety million? I said, are you okay
887
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:22.400
diving up your contract with the team
one fourteenth or one fifteenth and they're like
888
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:27.239
no, no, Like Kobe said, there's a reason why I don't trust
889
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:32.719
you and I won't give you the
ball in crucial situations because when I'm going
890
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.440
out to work out at four in
the morning, you're coming in at four
891
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.519
in the morning, I don't trust
you. You're the last one to practice
892
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:44.159
and the person coming in please coming
in? Yeah, I'm please out drinking
893
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:46.559
until that point when you were coming
in. But to make it to where
894
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.920
you are in your career, and
you know, Menschi, where you are
895
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.920
in your career in rads, I
mean, how many how many awards do
896
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.400
you have? How many you gotta
who We've all been told that you can't
897
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.159
do it right, You're not going
to be able to deal it. So
898
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.679
we're here and we all have a
background a different story. But we're all
899
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:14.519
grateful and we're mean as shit,
and we competed like the devil, and
900
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:18.039
it's okay to want to win.
It's so, why did I play at
901
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.800
fifty? Why did I play at
thirty nine? I wanted to see if
902
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:26.400
I could do it. I wanted
my kid to know what his mommy did.
903
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.719
Yeah, I didn't have my prime. Yeah. By the time you
904
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.079
played at fifty, you weren't his
mommy anymore. You were like ma right,
905
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.480
and he's like, yeah, hey, let's get in the game.
906
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:42.639
Yeaheah. Born with a competitive geam. I think we all were, though,
907
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:44.760
right, we had people that we
looked up to. I'm more sol
908
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.480
than other. We're still competitive,
right, yeah. And here's the problem,
909
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:49.840
I think, just to ship,
how do you motivate this generation?
910
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:53.480
All I had to do is a
kid would say, I'm going to be
911
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:55.159
better than you, you and you? What do I need to do?
912
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:57.800
Now? It's just I'm gonna be
a ready Okay, I watched it.
913
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.400
I'm better than you think I'm going
yeah, right, you know what I
914
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:02.639
am? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. You know why we build dream courts.
915
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:04.679
We're trying to get these kids out
of the house. You know,
916
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:09.599
we play roller hockey, we played
volleyball, we played tennis, and now
917
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:13.280
we play golf on dream courts.
We put nets and the little strip and
918
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.519
let we get kids who have been
told, oh, you're black, you
919
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.800
don't get to play. You play
basketball and football. No you don't.
920
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:25.880
You do not get to tell me
what I can be sport office. It's
921
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.519
not fair. Try everything. Yeah, absolutely, that's why we do what
922
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.320
we do. We gotta. Yeah, we got a look at day things
923
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:40.119
like I got another gig here,
overtime pay yeah, yeah, yeah,
924
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:43.559
he knows better. Yeah, Lorie
Paul and you're going to yeah dinner.
925
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:45.920
We so appreciate you. I hope
you watch every minute of this. It's
926
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.920
awesome with Nancy, she's a Hall
of Famer. We got Eddie on,
927
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:57.280
we all got one's a golf tournament. Good number seventeen. Castle Hill is
928
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:04.360
September sixteenth, Charities Charity's great.
Just what she's doing gallery the fourteenth.
929
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:06.679
I think I should try to get
Dirk to bring some of this. Uh
930
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:13.480
okay, yeah, oh yeah,
I'm go get the big german out there.
931
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.239
Okay, no to So who's your
big star this year? Do you
932
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:20.960
have a big, huge star.
Okay, let me tell you our friend.
933
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:27.159
We wanted to honor Dirk. His
event is the same day he and
934
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.360
I talked. He felt horrible.
Text me Nancy, I'm so sorry.
935
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.360
I'm so sorry. I'm like,
stop, I'm gonna see if we'll work
936
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:41.760
our date in twenty twenty five.
We're gonna honor him. I'm praying and
937
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.800
hoping that either Jason Kidd or Shack
says yes, I'm talking to this.
938
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:51.199
Yes, So I mean, just
for your prayers out there that they will
939
01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:55.480
do it. Shack, who don't. We'll always have the same group of
940
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.920
guys that are always there. Your
buddy Jay Harris, he's the best.
941
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.559
Day's always what a guy. We
love that man. She went to college
942
01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:09.519
well together. I'm older, but
you got to know Dave stopped recording five
943
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:13.039
minutes. We gotta let Dave go. Thank you ve been awesome. We'll
944
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:13.719
see you next time.
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Hey, welcome in. This is
our podcast. It's it's the big Head
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Pod and it SuDS with luds.
Uh and yet really that's not appropriate,
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so because you know, how do
you marry those? So here it is.
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This is Playmaker. The guy with
a big head is drinking. So
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yeah, really, so your nugget
doesn't look so here, here's what it
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is. This is Playmakers not yet
famous. Round table. Yes, because
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when we do these are gonna get
fame. You're gonna say we're actually on
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our no, but we'll be.
This is a rectangular table in Terminal C
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at DFW Airport. Yes, it's
okay, so we call it a square
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table, call it a round table. It almost looks like a one of
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the sand shuffle board tables that's there. We oh, we should play shuffle
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board of a beer pong table.
It's beer pong. We can set up
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some cups and we could. Oh
look and here comes next, Jason,
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bring it on in. Wow.
This is we are at Dirk Nowitzki's restaurant
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at DFW. Are looked at this. We have flat bread pizzas, We
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have these beautiful pretzel bites and what
else roller town, big German. This
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is Dirk's beer and it is fantastic
and you brewed by himself to him out
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there stirring. You need to come
to this restaurant. It's at Gate C
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thirty seven at DFW Airport and this
place is fantastic and we are here to
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talk about generations. Really, frankly, we're gonna pull the audience about generations
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here. That's an upcoming podcast will
be we will be the yes, I
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mean that next stuff and all that
you need to see. The best one
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we're gonna talk about is the self
proclaimed alpha one you like the elphice.
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Yeah, the twelve year olds are
calling themselves alphas. Yes, we've been
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relegated to the beta role as babies, right, we're baby boomers, boomers,
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yeah, boomers yea. No,
apparently I'm a gen Spencer one?
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Am I a gen z? Gen
z or always a millennial? Millennial?
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Are you kidding me? You're a
millennia seventy eight before? Which is what
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jen why? I think? Oh
here, you're a Hyeah, you're a
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y chromosome. So take that.
Uh. We'll have other guests stop buying
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the course of the program with Kevin
mentioned John Radigan and we're just here hanging
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out. We're just grabbing people as
they walk by, trying to We're hoping
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somebody famous coming. I see anybody
famous. I mean there's a big picture
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of Dirk right there. I wish
that could talk. But if we see
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anybody famous, we'll grab them,
We'll throw them on the podcast. But
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it's the playmakers not yet famous roundtable, and that's what we're doing. We're
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gonna just talk maybe some sports.
I don't know, we might what are
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sports? I mean this is we're
in an airport. I mean we want
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to see people. This is beautiful. Brandon, look at all this the
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renovations. It's actually brightened here.
It doesn't look like you ownsilmon and stuff
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everything. He loves the airport.
I do, Hey, I like the
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people Watch. You don't like people
luds? Just say it correct? Okay,
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So Rad's and not when I'm in
I do like. I love the
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people Watch. And I'm in this
airport quite a bit. But are you
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eighteen team? We fly in and
out of here all the time, so
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I like to get in. I
like to sit in a corner and watch.
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My favorite airport honestly, is people
want or who people watch? Is
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o' hair? Oh my gosh.
If you get everything that the gen Zers
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and boomers and Alphas all come fly. Hair is the biggest, right,
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But I think DFW is the most
busiest airport. Correct you say the most
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busiest? I think he did.
I don't think it's hair is the big
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most and I said busy. Okay, so he didn't. It's a combo
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grammatically, yeah, not his Sorry. We're enjoying ourselves today, right,
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just having fun with exactly. And
then she didn't like by the way,
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it's yeah, we're recording this eight
fifteen am. Yeah, yeah, he's
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are breakfast tacos. We love it. Men. She doesn't like beer,
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so he drinks whiskey. So this
could get you don't have any idea where
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this could go? Yes, if
you're flying out today, if you're terminal
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a take take the tram and are
you flying out today? Flying right back
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to my house and we're done?
Yeah, I hope we're not flying.
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Yeah, yeah, we're driving.
So where do we start? It's Dirk's
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place. That's pretty cool. I
mean again, that big picture of him
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seventh footer. I want to tell
you something about Yeah, I do,
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mister dir I do I want to
hear that. I am not a big
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I don't know a lot about that. I know you all, but you
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know I watch games here and there. He has he not won or achieved
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every award that a basketball player can
come up with? Is there anything he
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hasn't achieved as a basketball player?
From a trophy to banner to the statue,
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MVP, MVPs all Start, every
All Star MVP. Is is there
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anything left? Yeah? I don't. I don't think there's anything that you
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do the har living Yeah, hall
of Fame, right, well he's there.
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Yeah, Hall of Fame. So
yeah, that's the ultimate and first
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ballot, by the way. Okay, so here here's a question. I
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asked mole And if Dirk just happened
to walk by, yeah, we'll grab
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him. Yeah, I would ask
him. And here's a question. And
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if I'm not here, you guys
ask him. I may have to get
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escorted up. And I asked the
same question of Chris Chelios and ma Madonnald
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when it comes to having your jerseys
retired, the Hall of Fame, the
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NBA Championship, all those things,
is there one more important than another?
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Yeah? Well, I you know, I got a different answer from both
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of those and from Chelios. It
was like he wanted to see his jersey
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hanging in Chicago State really, which
he just accomplished not to go. But
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that was more for him, and
that was about his family. My kids
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will be able to walk in some
day. Wait a second, oh,
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Todd, just some Hall of famers
might walk by. Where are you going?
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A great Nancy lever men Hall of
Famer walks into this rat You never
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know who might show up at Dirk's
restaurant. Long hug, we got food,
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Sit down and hugging me because we
got a spot for you. We
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got snacks. How are you awesome
to see you again? No, noney,
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you are talking. We're talking,
sow and you're slide down. I'm
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sorry, Yeah, let me move
if we This is how it happened to
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a chance to try the flat bread
perfect. Yea, I gotta have.
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But right now I get somebody right
here. We're bringing Nancy in. Yes,
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who won this seating chart? No
kidding, goodness, Wow, he
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made sure talking about the first thing
that comes up. He said it.
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We knew he would enjoyed it.
We knew we have Dirk Spear, we
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got all came out. These are
what kind of flat bread pizzas. I
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will try a jerk spirit and I'm
not a drinker good because I'm fixing it.
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What's over there? Step food,
flat bread, flap pizza, flatbread
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pizza. Jason, what is it? We have a pepperoni? What's the
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other one? Jamaican jerk? Nancy
on that one? Wait? You call
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me a jerk? What the hell? So? Can I tell you what
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happened? Tells? We'd love to
hear it. I was on the phone
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walking in here. I'm so embarrassed, am I Mic? I was walking
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in with Del Harris. I was
talking to him and we're just chit chatting,
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and I'm like getting ready to walk
in and I unziped my purse to
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get my I carry a gun,
and I went, Dell, you just
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said you're just sat. I get
to go to my car. He goes,
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which one? Long? I go
before I get arristed? Would you
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bounce for me? He goes,
what's going on? I go, I
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have a cut of my purse.
I go. I got to go to
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the car. It was he didn't
get through security. I mean you didn't,
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you didn't get too security. But
just now yeah, And I went
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back and where my car was parked
and put the gun in there and walked
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back and like, okay, this
is good. So t s A.
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Didn't wonder why you turned and tucktail
and ran, Really I did. I
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was just waiting for her name.
She's so sweet. Yeah, yeah,
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that's U. Tests test test scored
too. Yeah. So we never said
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athletes are smart. No, no, they've never especially ones that are in
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the Hall of Fame. I mean
apparently when you get in you get two
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guns. Okay. It reminds me
of the of the Barry Switzer thing where
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he didn't remember and the bag came
through security. He was coming to training
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camp. He came through some bag
comes through security, and he gets pulled
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over and there and we're all in
Austino, where the hell Switzer is not
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a practice what's going on? And
the famous SoundBite from Switzer is I forgot
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to take my pistol out of my
backpack. Oh my god. So Switzer
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they got they caught him at least
hitting catch you, Nancy. Right after
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huh Switzer got off, I went
back to the Yeah you were in the
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meet, you were in you were
in there. What's a Maverick game?
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I told my guy take it out
of my bag. I'm flying tomorrow,
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gives it to the guy who's driving. The guy fits it back in the
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bag. I got through securities to
get handcuffed. Nancy was a felony.
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This is why, this is why
he was on the no fly list,
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trying to get through here. Hey
x Fudge twenty two thousand dollars, excuse
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me, sir, you do not
have a flight that takes off anytime?
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You got a flight to catch?
Yeah, yeah, we want to talk
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to next week Foster. He's a
big head, that's what you know.
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Kicks Brooks. We would play it
at Toby Key's golf tournament and we had
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not met, and he was late
getting in the car and they go,
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yeah, it's it's a tree guy. And I looked and he told me
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Kicks Brooks and I'm like, what
his name is? Kicks Okay. He
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gets in the car and go,
country guy, you're late. He was
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supposed to play golf. He goes, did you just call me country guy?
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I said, yeah, I mean
your Brooks are done and you're done
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with me because you're late. We
became great friends. That's great, yea.
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And we played nine eighteen holes together. They came out to NBA Summer
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League to see me play when they
were doing Reba's show, Get this Freak,
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I get you some chocolate. We're
sitting We're sitting here with a name
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dropper. I have I have a
question. Yes, so who is the
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most famous athlete person in general in
your opinion that I know this, I
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know where this is going, but
you know where it is. Muhammad Ali?
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Really Muhammad Ali like buddies with under
his wing. I was twenty.
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I was in college my senior year. Yeah, yeah, when you get
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divorced, because you're next on my
list. But so we met in New
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York. A lot's happening. Yeah, I'm you never let me go.
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He took my question and threw it
under the box. Yeah, thirty seven
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years of Muhammad Ali. And in
the last ten or twelve I would call
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and his wife and Lannie would say, baby, he's been waiting for you
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all day. And I'd come in
the house in Phoenix and I'm like,
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hey, Mohammed, and how are
you are you doing okay? And I
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go, you know, I've come
out of retirement more than you. And
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he's like, I can say it, you know, because he really didn't
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talk, but he'd be, he'd
be ready. Are you Are you angry
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that I came out of retirement more
than you, more success, more fans,
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more, and Lonnie's like really like
dancing was rubbing it into Hamad.
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I'll leave. Yeah, I would
just scoreboard. I would put his bib
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on and I would feed him like
freezer pops and I'd wipe his mouth.
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That's the same thing mentioned before you
got I thought me because he made a
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rampa for God's sake. Yeah,
read personal Grandpa over here. Every event
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towards the end of his life,
Lonnie would call me and go honey,
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and I go yes. She'd say, Mohammed has to go to New York
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to do this event? Would you
see it? And I went yes?
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She goes, I didn't tell you
the date I go doesn't matter. It
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doesn't matter. And I would fly
to wherever they wanted me to. And
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is there anything one specific thing you
would take out of spending all that time
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with him? Yeah? There's two
people in life. There's givers and there's
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takers. And he taught me twenty
to respect everybody and to fear nobody.
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I'm not afraid to come on your
podcast. I'm not afraid to coach men.
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I'm not afraid to play against men. I'm not afraid to be great.
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I'm not afraid to be Tej's mommy. He taught me I respect everybody.
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But he just gave me that resilience. And he was like, like
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I didn't have a father, and
you know, he was like my dad,
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my friend, my hero, and
he never let me go. I
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had him for thirty seven years.
And the best part is at his funeral,
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Billy Crystal spoke, you know,
and all the President Clinton. So
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I slide into my seat in louis
Yeah. Well the thing is, Billy
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Crystal lived in her neighborhood, for
God's sake. Well he's in New York,
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mansy. Why are you and I
even here? No, because I'm
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older than I remember. Remember the
pretty girls always hang with the ugly girls
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to make make them even prettier.
So that's why we're here. Yeah,
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that's good. Look, I'm fifty
five molder than all of you, and
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I've tried to take it off my
license after I put the gun back.
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But love story. I go to
the Young Young Center in Louisville. I
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fly in, I do the whole
you know, the what is it a
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procession by his old house and everything
in Louisville. And then I slide into
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my row and the guy goes,
hi, i am King Abdullah from and
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I go Hi, I go,
I'm a king too. And he goes
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and he goes, how can you
be a pig? And no, Billy
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Crystal was there, and he's like, I can't believe you're doing this.
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I'm a Sacramento king. I'm their
assistant Poe. And he just looks at
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me and he goes, what he
And I look at Billy and he goes,
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don't go there. Yeah, okay, were you wi the kings when
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Muhammad? Yeah? What are you
really? Yeah? Then I go,
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I'm a king. You cannot be
a king? No, I'm a king,
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trust me, I'm a king.
Yeah. You got to throw something
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in her winningness, which which brings
me to a good top. You're talking
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about right now, Nancy, as
far as you still talk about playing with
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men, we're not afraid of anything. Right. What's the big story now?
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Like women's college basketball right now?
Yes, of course that's the big
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story, right exactly. Yeah.
You offering her five million dollars to play
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is the big story in the three
v three league three. You three offered
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her five million dollars based salary to
play eight games. And you know she
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from she coached Blood, doesn't get
out much. No, no, no,
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I know that she's a she coaches
one of the big three teams.
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I coach Power. It was a
little tricky because Caitlin and I are good
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friends. She's she's gonna win my
point Guard of the Year award at the
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Final Four for the third time.
But since her freshman year, Coach Blueder
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has been so super nice hm to
allow me to zoom with the team to
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be a friend of the Iowa program. So she and I have become good
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friends. A matter of fact,
I was there Monday, her last game
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in Iowa, and after the game
and they let me come in the locker
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room. I still fangirl. I
feel fangirl around you guys because I just
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love sports and what great people have
done. And uh, we're in the
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locker room and she gave me her
game worn jersey and she autographed it and
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it smelled And the other day I
watched the game two nights ago and I
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wore it and I'm like, in
my house, I wore the Caitlin Clark
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autographed jersey, and I'm like,
yeah, but I wore no no,
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I had people over there, but
I also but I had aerosol, like
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you know, for breeze there in
her sports bra right. And people are
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like, well, mam, yeah
she uh. Who offered him the five
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million dollars? The Big Three?
Ice Cube? The Big Three, the
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Big Three, the league. Blood
doesn't get out much. You need to
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explain it to him, Nancy.
What is the Big Three? Explain to
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go ahead, Nancy. The Big
Three is it's three on three ice cube.
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Beat everybody to it seven years ago. He beat the Olympics, he'd
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beat the NBA, he beat college, he beat everybody to it. So
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this is his story. He wasn't
there the night the last game where Kobe
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scored sixty. He was doing a
concert somewhere. He goes back to his
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house and he's moping around for months
and Miss Kim, his wife, goes,
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oh Shay, that's his round name. Oh Shay, stop, you
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can't do this, Go do something
about it. So he calls his he's
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a great Laker and Oakland Raiders fan, and so are now Vegas Raiders.
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And they start talking about let's start
a three on three leagues, so when
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guys a retire, they have a
stepping stone. So the coaches in the
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Big three Doctor j George Gervin,
Clyde Drexler, Rick Mahorne, Rick Barry,
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Michael Cooper, Gary Payton, Lisa
Leslie, Nancy Lieberman are Hall of
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Fame coaches. It's amazing. And
we play in NBA arenas. It's ten
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weeks. If you go through the
playoffs from June to September one, we're
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getting fourteen fifteen thousand people all night. Our ratings are higher. We outrate
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in the summer golf, the WNBA, NBA, Summer League, soccer,
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in Major League Baseball. Because you're
on CBS, right, CBS, Yes,
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Yeah, Because it's the pace of
the game. There's a lot of
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energy. It seems more in too. The way it's the way the court's
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set up. It's you know the
NBA, you're there, you're if you're
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on one in the court, you're
you know, one hundred feet away.
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This it's a half court, right, so that everybody's right there. So
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you have that which brings I would
think bring more people in because of I
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got a chance to actually write what
what's everybody gonna do with their phone,
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taking selfies and everything else. Somebody
runs by, you get more changing.
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I think that's probably helps the contribute
Tolebs are there like Jason kidd Lebron James
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H. L Cool, Ja Snoop
Dog, all these, you know,
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Kanye West. A lot of celebrities
come and hang out. Well, you're
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one of them too. You're gonna
be a celebri ball. It's like the
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league. I mean it's a lot
right, Well, the players are,
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not the friends are, but the
players all that community is kind of supporting
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us. But if you go into
the AAC where we've played for five six
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years, and there's fifteen thousand people
there, white people, black people,
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brown people, Asian people, Muslim
people, shoes, Christians has been there.
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You came on my birthday, on
her birthday, and and my daughter
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and who knows, my kids were
big ice Cube fans, and so I
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go there. My kids are like, oh my god, that's ice Cube,
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and I go, well, we
can probably get them over. My
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kids are getting pictures with ice Cube. You know, it's just amazing.
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Eddie, you never know, just
got better looking. You want to sit
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up there, No kidding, Eddie, look at you. You guys,
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we're doing well. I think he's
gotten short. We got we got a
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mic for you, Eddie, do
you want to be in the Big three?
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Will give you the five million that
we gave to each here. That's
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I got the big german, Eddie, not her. Well this is a
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good crew. Yeah. When you
think about man, the roller Towns will
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keep it. How many how many
players are on the huast team? Five
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five players, so it's not think
about nine Grandpa's old timers Yankee Stadium.
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These guys are in sixty they're thirty
nine, forty forty two. But think
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about ten players to draw fifteen thousand
people. We've been to the Big three,
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right, So I think that the
NBA has a problem that they're going
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to have to buy that league out. Otherwise they started losing some some fans,
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which is fine. I mean there's
plenty to go around, sure,
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but because of the x NBA players
coming in and now there's like Yonga,
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guys, instead of going overseas to
play there, they staying here. And
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I don't blame them. I mean
you stay, you stay close to home,
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and yeah, but then but look
at what now the NBA is trying
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to compete with isn't isn't the Saudi's
aren't they trying to create a league as
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well? Now? So there's like
so much speculation, and I think that's
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the next money for the NBA.
Really, if I'm missed, I don't
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know if I'm wrong. I guard
that James bon got offered something like nine
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hundred million dollars to I mean,
I didn't hear that I go play in
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Saudi Arabia and he would have taken
it. I don't know if I wrote
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Harry, but I mean they've got
baseball, right, They've got a soccer
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league, they've got they got the
golf. Golfing is the one. Wouldn't
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basketball be be the next thing?
I mean it seems like I think they're
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going to become owners eventually, yeah, because there's no way. The franchise
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is the values they're at the top, so there's no way. And they're
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ready incorporate the new CVA or the
new TV deal into the pricing. That's
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one like sold for. Really,
what do you think ownership is going to
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allow that? Right? Does an
ownership have to vote on new buyers?
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Do you know who they own?
To say? Yeah? Do you think
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they're like money? Yeah? Yes, that's true. Quickly, Eddie Nahara,
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who's just joined us. We've got
Eddie Nancy Lever and a Hall of
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Famer, one of the greatest women's
basketball players ever cried two scrubs. Kevin
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Eddy is the first ever Mexican born
person to play in the NBA, to
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be drafted, to be drafted one
one one Mexican player that made it Passio
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Yamus Okay, great friend of mine, but he you know, he soake
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around for a couple of years.
He didn't play much. But I was
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the first one drafted in there and
had a great career with the Mavericks and
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other team. But somebody to look
up to, right growing up? He
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did look up to as far as
being a Mexican born player too as fire.
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Did you did you emulate him or
did you not even know of it?
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I actually you talked about the other
Mexican playing. Yes, I learned
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what not to do if I want
to be that's me blood. Did drink
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a beer, the big german beer? I can drink it. That guy
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was drinking like twenty beers when he
was playing in Active and I was like,
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dude, like, what are you
doing. Yeah, I played with
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we've all played with guys that drank
bloods. You're the you brought that guy
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drinking twenty beer queen period. Yes, it's a lubricant. Yes, there's
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nothing wrong with let's give the joints. Yes. Yeah, So what are
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you doing in these days? A
little bit of everything. I decided to
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walk away from a great job with
the Mavericks. I was very grateful with
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Mark and the whole staff because I
was there for five years as a talent
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evaluad and you know, honestly,
like I was a little afraid to walk
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away from, you know, but
ultimately I kind of build this courage and
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you know, have kids, and
I decided to take a one year off
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and not do anything and try to
figure it out. And finally, because
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of the NBA was great to me, so I ended up making and saving
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money. So then I started doing
my own investments in the US and in
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Mexico, and two of them are
doing really well, and one is actually
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a basketball team in the Pro League
in Mexico. Have a great partner,
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and I spent a lot of time
down there. I actually had Dwight Howard.
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He's interested in playing out in Mexico. He can name more money overseas.
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But I'm telling you played thirty eight
and I wanted, why can I
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coach to Mexico? You can come
and coach, Nancy. I realized how
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many jobs you have asked me to
co coach. You're a celebrity golf host.
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I mean, do you have time
for all this, Nancy? I
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do. I do. Let me
tell you about Eddie. Eddie is one
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of the most amazing human beings.
How many years ago, seven years ago,
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he asked Del Harris and myself to
come to Chihuahua where he grew up.
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He's legendary there the respect that he
has. We went to Chihuahua because
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who he is. It was.
We were there two or three days.
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We were treated like royalty, and
we did clinics, we had translators.
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I'm grateful, that is what I
was going to say, So thank you.
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No, it's been an incredible journey. And going back to your original
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question of what I'm doing, I
do that still in my hometown because to
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me, I think that it's a
role model, especially for Mexican kids in
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my country and so in the US. But then we have we have we
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have to be there and we have
to make sure that we share the knowledge.
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I mean, I was fortunate enough
to play for great coaches, great
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minds, so I got I got
to know basketball at the highest level.
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Then I got to be around icons
like like Nancy and then she also,
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like was my mentor when I was
coaching. So all these little things that
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I came and built up. I
mean, I'm trying to kind of share
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that throughout our country because basketball is
the number two sport in our country.
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Soccro always still a number one,
and it's up and coming. And that's
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the reason I got into the business
of basketball with the Basketball League down in
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Mexico, and that's taking a lot
of my time. But I'm having such
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an incredible time to the point that
I didn't want to give me involvement in
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politics. And that's where I put
the brakes. I was like, no,
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no, no, no politics for
me. Yeah, that's where it
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starts y and then usually where it
ends in policy, I think I think
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about it. Yeah, yeah,
So to that end, you know,
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as a Texan, I worry about
Mexico, right, is it? Because
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you know I think Texans kind of
view sort of everybody that's coming across the
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border and stuff as if they are
Mexican, which you know, if you
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look at it at all, we
know they're not. Is Mexico am I
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okay to worry about it? Or
is it? Is it getting better?
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Are there is there improvement there?
Do I need to worry about that that
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place as a country heavy well?
The beauty of Mexico is our neighbors,
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the US, So I believe that
the US has a correct influence in our
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country. No matter what party is
running the country or what they do,
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we do down there. We still
depend on the US economy, so we
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still have sort of the same structure
as the US. There is corruption,
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of course, as any where in
the in the world. But at the
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end of the day, I think
that it's gotten so much better as the
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new generations up and coming politicians.
They're younger, smarter, They got educated
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in the US in grade DI,
ivy league schools and all that, so
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they're going back and giving back to
the country and I think that eventually will
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be a better country. For sure. You talk about basketball being the growth.
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It's always been a soccer country,
right, Mexico has with so when
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you were growing up as a kid, was it always soccer and then basketball
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just happened, you know with you
know, so the growth over the last
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thirty years has it been more basketball
than it has been soccer because you think
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about globally, hockey is really never
going to grow other than here in Canada.
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It's not going to grow over your
basketball for sure. Baseball soccer Europe,
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yeah, but not the way that
basketball. There's low costs, right,
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low cost So he's here and we
have more basketball courts in Mexico than
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than soccer than any other sport.
And now because of full salt end of
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soccer, they used being utilized for
that particular. But at the same time,
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we do have great infrastructure when it
comes to like gems, like Mexico
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City has two NBA top of arenas, Monterey has one. We have an
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arena that holds about fifteen thousand people. We also I own a piece of
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that team as well in my hometown
and we actually drove about twelve thousand per
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game. So it's up and coming
and I think that there's a great opportunity
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for business there as long as you
know, you get the right partners.
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And I do have a couple of
guys in there that are incredible. They
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don't depend on the government. They
don't have any contracts with the government.
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They actually strictly business and they do
it throughout the world, so world wide
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brands, Mexican guys that they supported
my career and also supporting my new endeavors
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with basketball in Mexico. And we're
doing it for biggest leak of the community.
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That's really what we're doing it for. Like we're investing money so can
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start utilizing basketball was a tool to
make sure that we implement those values and
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fundamentals that that we need, you
know, daily life. Yeah, I
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mean thinking about what you know in
the NFL takes a game to Mexico City,
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right, which is big right now? I think the well the help
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the NFL is going to Brazil this
year. The Eagles opened in Brazil of
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all places, and seeing that,
I mean the growth, it's got to
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be over two hundred percent from when
you were a kid, right, it
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was really soccer and then maybe basketball
was just something to do. I mean
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the last I won't believe the last
ten years basketball exploded, Okay, but
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I think it's the NBA. They
may have done an incredible job going global
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and going back to my point with
the NBA, the French value at the
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top. So now they have to
get creative. So how do you continue
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growing? Right? And Saudi are
a radio that's you were describing it.
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Those probably the new people coming in
paying like top dollars. But to me,
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it's like you're topping to you have
Canada. So now you taped me
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to Mexico with one hundred and thirty
million people live in there, So let's
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say you capture fifty million. Now
you're Amazon is still not going in Mexico's
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trying to penetrate the market, which
you know Amazon and Apple, all these
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big corporations, they also tapped out
in the US and they have all their
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clients. Yeah, we have what
two hundred and thirty million here in the
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US. They probably covered like two
hundred million. So now they have to
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expand, and so does the NBA
and nothing that. That's where I've been
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and I've been talking to the website
is. I had a conversation with the
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commissioner not so long ago, like
how come we don't have a franchise in
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Mexico. I think it's just a
matter of time. It has to happen.
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Exactly along the lines of Menti's first
question Soccer than basketball, Like,
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we're in Dirk's restaurant, your former
teammate. We're in Dirk's restaurant. Dirk
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was a tennis player, right,
and all of a sudden, he's seven
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feet tall, and he's like,
maybe I should try this basketball thing.
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Have you seen him on a BaFL
field? Funny, we've been playing heroes
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forever. I wonder, yeah,
he said, he said it. That's
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just former teammate hen talking. I
gut, you've seen him, like,
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kick a ball. I'm like,
dude, like, what are you doing?
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Really right? No? Play what
I was saying, he can play
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tennis. He can play, yeah, really good. I think he'd be
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very pickaball and I have to move
very far. He's got to move at
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all. Yeah. So, but
Eddie, did you start as a soccer
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player and then all of a sudden
you got really tall? So I started
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as a soccer player. Everybody started
as a soccer player in Mexico. And
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then my father was a pro baseball
player. So then I got to try
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to follow the food stamps. Uh. Then at fourteen, I went from
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being six feet to six eights.
Uh, this is the beauty of Mexican,
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Right, So I went and try
out in high school, my first
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mamani. In high school, I
went to try out for the baseball team.
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The coach looked at me from my
feet all the way up, this
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little show guy, Mexican guy,
and then he had the nerve to say,
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like, I don't need you in
baseball, why don't you go try
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out for basketball? So he gave
me the best advice. He killed my
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dream. Of course, yeah,
baseball, because you don't say that baseball
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feel. It's not it's okay,
better and dirt. Oh no, no,
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I've done back then. I mean
I remember I was throwing eighty four
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miles per hour like when I was
thirteen thirteen. Yeah, they Randy Johnson
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time. Well he has letting it
go and the catcher's mitt. And I
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wish Mexico was like the US.
I mean the US. You have private
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wealth investing in our communities, right, and it's a good business. Like
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you have so many uh so many
gyms, multi sports gyms where you can
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go train and and it's a good
business. Mexico doesn't have no structure,
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so you have to defend in the
US. Once you get to a level
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like myself at seventeen, Okay,
now I can play basketball at a high
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level. I dominated Mexico, so
I have to go to the best market,
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which it was the US. And
I was lucky enough to make that
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decision. Uh. But going back
to question, like soccer baseball, and
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that guy killed my dream in baseball. So I went to bash school when
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I started, and I always worked
my ass off to get to where I
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am And it wasn't given to me. And I'm paying for it right now
473
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and I'm sure Nancy can agree with
it. To hear replacement two years ago,
474
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I need to have these replaces in
my bag. Wow, Because I
475
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.559
was not as talented as a big
german, so I had to like scoci
476
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fast my body for the most part. But I love it. You were
477
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:30.039
diving, you were setting screens.
You were the guy who was energizing the
478
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:35.960
team and everybody you know in baseball, football, you know hockey, somebody
479
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.119
has to do the dirty work.
Yeah, so luds did dettonhot right,
480
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:44.119
rocking shots. Think about it as
entertaining, But as athletes at twenty years
481
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.719
old, think about did you worry
about how your body's gonna fell me?
482
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:52.320
You're forty five plastic or Roberts,
Except I was stitched and do all these
483
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.159
things, which is why yeah,
which is why I have. We can't
484
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wake up in the morning without something
hurting. I mean, I'm the youngest
485
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.840
of this group, but I still
feel eighty five. My he does because
486
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of like you said, we don't
think about this generation you talk. What'd
487
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.639
you call him earlier? Les Alpha? The new generation? Yeah, alphas?
488
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.199
It works, not there anymore.
They watch and they're better automatically.
489
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.440
They automatically get better as opposed to
how we were raised the doing part.
490
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What do you guys think about these
new athletes like gamers that don't even put
491
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.039
that athlete in there? No,
I should have done that. Yeah,
492
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when your body'd be better. Obviously
you don't have to deal with have your
493
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original hip, wouldn't you? You
don't have to deal with carpal tunnel?
494
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.079
Right that guy you know listening to
Eddie talk, how many times did you
495
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.280
hear the word investment? Because you've
done a lot of that, right,
496
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.119
is he the next mister oneerful?
Wonderful made from the Shark Tank Mexican version
497
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.000
of the Shark Tank, not even
close lance. You could join the panel.
498
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.480
I'm in, I'm in. See
there you go, I'm in.
499
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.840
But you know, but it's just
growing and growing and growing. Well,
500
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that's like volleyball too. Right now
we're having volleyball in twenty twenty five Professional
501
00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.639
Women's Volleyball Federation, which just started
Dallas is going to have a team next
502
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.599
year. My first year in the
w when I was coaching in GM and
503
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Detroit, the I would say the
franchises were maybe worth five million dollars.
504
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:17.519
They're being evaluated now at ninety million
with wnba wnba wnba ninety million because of
505
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:27.559
what's happened since COVID. It's amazing
the opportunities that remind me of your path
506
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:34.719
you and Eddie's coaching paths crossing.
He was first of all, Eddie does
507
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.920
not discriminate against anybody. We're minorities. And when he got the coaching job
508
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:44.519
with the Legends and I was there
their first coach and assistant GM, we
509
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.039
knew each other, but he reached
out and we would watch film and we
510
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:51.920
would talk. And did he follow
you as coach? Was he the next
511
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:53.480
coach? After year? Is it
Dell first? For a little bit,
512
00:36:54.239 --> 00:37:00.280
it was Dell's second, wasn't it
you were first? Then me did a
513
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.400
good job. They actually held their
name Legends, not so me so much
514
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:13.800
me as don't have Nancy Liverman the
best there. It was actually pretty cool
515
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.840
and I really that's when I learned
a bit of the business. So I
516
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:22.639
got involved with the Allegends as as
as the ownership group, and I started
517
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:28.920
seeing like some potential there. In
fact, when I have this conversation with
518
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.039
Adam, I mean I might be
going to New York next week to meet
519
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:37.559
with them because I wanted that G
League team, and they use somebody else,
520
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.039
local guy that I know, and
then he was calling me to try
521
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:43.880
to sell me the team, and
I was like, wait a second,
522
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.880
yeah, And so now now they're
they're kind of flirting with me again.
523
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.000
But because I know and I learned
from the Text of Ladies about coaching,
524
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.920
about running the team, and also
about ownership, now feel comfortable going into
525
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:05.239
business, and I feel comfortable bringing
some of my friends as investors to put
526
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some money into it, because at
the end of the day, I think
527
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.079
that the G League is continuing to
grow, just like Nancy said, the
528
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.599
w NBA, now it's a ninety
million that's that's incredible, incredible, And
529
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:22.159
by the way, we do have
owned two female and that's that's a requirement
530
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:27.559
for US men's you have to have
a female team that I haven't even got
531
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to it. We have to operate
twenty twenty five, so I do have
532
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time men's basketball. We have to
operate like in the next three or four
533
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.400
months. But eventually I'm gonna have
to come back to you because I need
534
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:38.840
players, any coaches, I need
a whole structure. If you want to
535
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.559
take it, Nancy, your coach, we can. He'll be the commissioner.
536
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.800
You talk about the growth, you
talk about the professional women's professional volleyball,
537
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.280
Correct, Nancy, that's coming.
But I've had discussion with athletic directors
538
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in the North Texas area about most
a lot of girls when they get to
539
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.159
high school, they go away from
basketball and they go to volleyball the only
540
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.559
reason they go away. I just
had this conversation. Some women don't like
541
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:07.880
the physicality soccer. They want to
play sect. No, it's not the
542
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.559
running, it's it's you know,
in hockey you get hit on every play.
543
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.639
You're going to get hit that he
was talking, Yeah, but that's
544
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.159
the alphas. You know, even
in basketball, you know it's going to
545
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be physical, but it's not going
to be every single play, but women
546
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.239
I haven't. I've had my basketball
camps here for forty four years. We've
547
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.119
had three hundred thousand kids come through
camp. They don't want to get hit,
548
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:34.360
and so when they don't want to
get hit, they go to volleyball
549
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.199
to hit, but not the physicality
on them. That's just I mean,
550
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:44.000
just think about how we were raised. That just goes because we're just talking
551
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about the generational thing of how we
were raised to fight through stuff. It's
552
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.400
almost as if they don't want to
fight through it. They want to take
553
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.480
the easy path to I don't know
how big volleyball is in Mexico, if
554
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.719
it's even if it's even thought of. As far as you know, soccer,
555
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:58.960
I know baseball's big. Benji Gill
is a good buddy of mine,
556
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:00.719
right coaching team mexicoach. You know
the semi final. Yeah, so you
557
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.840
know, Benji. But baseball and
then and then basketball. But is there
558
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.000
anything else that you know? Like
we said, the numbers just seem to
559
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any especially at the high school level. So so at the college level,
560
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seems like the numbers would be down
to no. Numbers are all up because
561
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.719
there's more girls playing sports now.
You can you know, kind of divide
562
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.719
and conquer. But you know with
Nils with the money they're getting. With
563
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:30.079
the money, like in the NBA
is getting better. The college coaches female
564
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:35.639
making a million as Don Staley Kim
Mogi just finished signing thirty five million dollar
565
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.480
contracts. I'm the highest paid coach
in the in the Big Three. And
566
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:45.000
you know, I mean, it's
nice when somebody who is ownership believes in
567
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:51.840
you. I've been a GM with
the with the Legends, with the Detroit
568
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.400
Shock in the W So not only
can you coach, but you can be
569
00:40:54.519 --> 00:41:00.880
a GM like Eddie. Eddie brought
some sponsors from Mexico, some ownership money.
570
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.199
I think maybe from China, right, you brought your buddies or that
571
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.079
was Johnny was China. But you
were on the logo on the floor.
572
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:14.400
So you know, we're not just
one trick ponies. I'm more like we're
573
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entrepreneurial. Uh athletes. Yeah,
you know we're athletes, and but we
574
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.440
were doing it in our career.
We didn't know probably that we were connecting
575
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.559
a lot of dots. But you
know, so nance let's because you were
576
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.280
talking about women and taking that punishment, right, and we talked you and
577
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.360
I talked last night about Caitlin taking
the five million, which we don't know
578
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:40.199
if she's going to do. I
don't even know if she's had the offer
579
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.800
presented to her yet. Person she
has not. Okay, I didn't think
580
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:50.280
she had anyway. But you told
me you're one of the maybe the only
581
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.480
person in the world who knows what
it's like. I mean, look at
582
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.519
the size difference between you and Eddie
and if you were in when you were
583
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:02.039
playing, you played again men and
a guy Eddie's size set a screen on
584
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.480
you. Yeah, what is that
like? Look in nineteen eighty I had
585
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.639
no pro league. I didn't have
a pro league in my prime in eighty.
586
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.280
I think Eddie knows this. But
Doctor Bus and Jerry West called me.
587
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.880
I was playing in a men's league
in New York and they did Jane
588
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.400
Poly did a thing on me.
Doctor Buss saw it. They called me
589
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.559
the next day and they said,
we want you to play for the Lakers
590
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.960
in summer League. Your coach is
going to be a young coach. It's
591
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.519
his first time. His name is
Pat Riley. He did not want me
592
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.880
on his team. I even have
the video of this with Pat and I
593
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:42.840
didn't in his mind's eye look like
the point guard that he would recognize.
594
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.639
So I fly to La. I'm
out there. I'm getting my ass beat
595
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:53.400
every practice. He tells his story
years later that you know, he says
596
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:58.239
to the coaches, he goes,
what the hell are we going to do
597
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.880
with her? They beat the crap
out of her, They knock her down,
598
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.639
She doesn't cry, and she tried
to start two fistfights in practice.
599
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.239
Eighty year, twenty two years old. I was twenty two years old,
600
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.559
and four days later I was just
starting point guard because I wasn't afraid,
601
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:17.079
and you know, you go on, you can't be afraid. Well,
602
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.679
well we've got we just want to
let you know what's going on. We've
603
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.719
got a bunch of airport executives who
are checking us out right now, which
604
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.159
is awesome. It's great welcome.
We love to see you. Thank you
605
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:34.039
all for being here, and we
are helping to make people realize what an
606
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:38.519
awesome concept a dirt novisky type restaurant
is. There are lots of them throughout
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00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:44.800
the country and that's through our Playmaker's
brand and Eddie, I want you to
608
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.440
weigh in for us on you know, some of your best recollections of Dirk
609
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.239
being your teammate. I mean,
this guy was. He's iconic. He's
610
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:58.320
unbelievable. He's so fun and friendly
and down to earth. What do you
611
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.679
remember? So I remember getting drafted
by the Mavericks and I was there was
612
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:08.000
four rookies Corney, Alexander Ayton,
Thomas, Donald Harvey, and I was
613
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:14.239
a second rounder. They flew on
Mark Ewan's plane to Dallas. I flew
614
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:19.880
southwest and I was like, so
I got there. I was like,
615
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.519
okay, whatever, but I guess
what. The number one guy that greeted
616
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:28.440
me was dark, no kidding.
Derek showed me the city around, and
617
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.159
I had no guarantee contract. I
was a second rounder, so I didn't
618
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.559
even know. I didn't know if
I was well. I knew I was
619
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.239
gonna make the team. There was
no questions there, there was no doubts
620
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.960
in He didn't know that. He
didn't know that nobody else in the organization
621
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.440
knew whether I was gonna make the
team or not because I had a known
622
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:51.480
guarantee contract. But he showed me
around, took me around. Obviously,
623
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:55.000
I kind of got to learn his
personality. Being from Germany's they're different.
624
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.039
Was like, I'm different being from
Mexico, so he's his jokes were a
625
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:06.239
little more. It was more at
mobive dry sense of humor. But at
626
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.840
the end of the day, like
we hit it off and we had something
627
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.719
in common. We were foreigners in
a big city. I was coming from
628
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:19.559
Norman, Oklahoma. He was coming
from Germany, a small town. Yeah,
629
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.559
and we actually hit it off.
And he started like showing me taking
630
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.559
me around dinners and this and that. I was like, Wow, this
631
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.840
guy's been so nice to me.
But anyway, it's low story short.
632
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:36.360
Now we fast forward to basketball.
He would not let Sean Brawley garden,
633
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:42.199
he would not let anybody as at
me garden. And again no guarantee contract,
634
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.400
and he would tell me like,
do not take it to him.
635
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.599
And I was like, dude,
I'm gonna get you hurt. You don't
636
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.639
under state like I can go as
far as you want. But that was
637
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.400
that's when I knew that he was
gonna be special because everybody criticized me his
638
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:01.280
first two years, the typical European
player finales game saw and they were right.
639
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.679
I mean, he was young.
He was eighteen when he got to
640
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.800
Dallas. When when I got drafted, he was twenty and I was already
641
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.679
twenty two. He's two years actually
younger than me. But doing the playoffs
642
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.960
when the game was on the line, the first three or four years,
643
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.960
he couldn't drivel, he couldn't shoot. He would throw it away or he
644
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.679
would do something. But the one
thing that I can tell you is his
645
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.079
resilience. He would get back into
it. He would delete that play and
646
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.920
get back into it. And he
was actually fearless. And he has a
647
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.880
quote that I really really enjoyed that
he said it. We said like when
648
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:45.840
he came to pressure, he actually
he loves being in that situation. He
649
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:51.719
actually said something else. I'm not
sure I make love to pressure. That's
650
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:52.920
when he put it out. I
was like, whoa, that's actually pretty
651
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:58.760
cool, dude. So then I
got traded and then I came back around
652
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.199
and he was like the off his
guy on the team, and I was
653
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.079
like, what the hell. So
then he was like Getty doing practice.
654
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.880
Uh, you know the special situations
one played. Obviously the ball is going
655
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:09.960
to dark. And he would tell
me like, all right, come on,
656
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:14.079
let's see what you got. And
the first time the second time I
657
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.679
came around, this guy put his
shoulder on my chin. I think I
658
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.480
had a concussion. Didn't even know
it, but I was like, what
659
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.280
the hell, dude, Like,
why do you have to be so aggressive?
660
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:28.639
Now? I was asking him to
slow down. Yeah, yeah,
661
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.800
because he was so incredible. He
was ready to be the MVP and always
662
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.320
to win the championship with the following
year they wanted. Yeah, so you
663
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.079
were you were there when they went
to the finals in eighty six. I
664
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:46.239
mean in the ninety she how do
you think, I don't even know he's
665
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:50.639
not a baby boomer. Yeah,
twenty thousand and six. Yeah, so
666
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:59.880
I'm kindab well the guys. I
was one of those guys that now they
667
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.159
use of my contract situation. Thank
god. I was blessed and I was
668
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.079
making enough money, but I got
traded for Eric Dan Pierre to Golden State.
669
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:12.880
So I went from the best organization
to the worst at that time.
670
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.679
Now Golden State has grown. He's
the only place that I asked for a
671
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.320
trade because they we're not playing me
and they were paying me all this money.
672
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.960
And we had a younger coach in
Mike Montgomery, and I could tell
673
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.079
he was a little tentative about Dale
Davis. Cliff Robinson was in the team
674
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:30.440
and so I was like the third
guy. But anyways, I asked for
675
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:37.400
a trade. So when I came
back in twenty ten, Derg was incredible.
676
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:45.440
I mean he played defense. I
mean the last the finals against Miami,
677
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:52.199
I think he broke his finger and
he continued playing on shooting him so
678
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.960
he continued playing. Now, when
we went to the Western Finals, he
679
00:48:55.159 --> 00:49:00.920
actually sprang his knee and I saw
him practice and I get it, don
680
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:05.800
nails. Nelly was wouldn't let protected
him, wouldn't play, and I'm like,
681
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.000
look at him, like, dude, like we needed I was.
682
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.920
I was. I was playing in
one leer. I just have surgery that
683
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.639
I was supposed to take a year
off. Came back in seven weeks and
684
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.760
I'm like, you need to play. And that was my moment's shot with
685
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.320
the championship. And when he shut
they shot him down. He wanted to
686
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:27.719
play, Nelly said, and that
right was that game seven against It was
687
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.199
actually the third game against the Spurs, and just never came back. And
688
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.599
there was some finals and all that, and then Della said, we have
689
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.920
the nets. We had like the
the easy way. So I told him
690
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.760
that I'm winning the whole thing.
Yeah, great, but think about what
691
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:45.360
he just said about Nelly. Nelly
Saw had a vision of the future.
692
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:51.039
And there's a lot of coaches,
right you know this who they will grind
693
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.960
you to, you know, in
all of our sports if they think you
694
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:58.719
can help them win. Because a
coach, Chuck Dailey said this to me
695
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.880
when I was coaching in the right
He goes, Nancy, I was the
696
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.480
first time coach. He goes,
go get the yearbook or you know,
697
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.360
the little book that the media gets. He goes, go to Ron Harper
698
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.960
and I go to Ron Harper and
it says Ron has been you know,
699
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.440
all Pro, all this All Star
game, and he goes, this man
700
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.000
has lost seventy percent of all the
games he's ever played in, and it
701
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.079
sounds like he's going to be a
Hall of Famer, but he's lost.
702
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.360
He goes, now, go to
my book and it says, Chuck Daily
703
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:30.320
is three hundred and fifty nine.
You're only judged by your wins and losses
704
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.360
as a coach. Yep, we
got to get Daddie out of here.
705
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.559
That's so too bad. And he's
got to go kiss babies. That's what
706
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.639
you do. He's got enough to
do. I mean, Eddie's Eddie's here
707
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.800
for a reason. It wasn't just
say we can't set one of these up
708
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.840
some down in Chihuahua in Mexico.
Right, that's right, so hey,
709
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.679
maybe Eddie will be Eddies could be
Lallos. That's my big name. Yeah,
710
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:57.039
that's right in DFW. There you
go, definitely Chia. Let's make
711
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:59.559
sure we go talking. Derek's the
guy to talk to. Let's get you
712
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:05.039
a rest. You for having me
as I could hang with you, guys,
713
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.920
you could. Ye, you're in
New York. You're going to stab
714
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:15.039
somebody. I was recording to stab
somebody. I was in a dress and
715
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:20.159
patent leather shoes and this guy was
making fun of me when I was ten
716
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.760
and my shoes slipped as I tried
to scabble. Second, so you were
717
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:30.960
in a mini skirt and high heels. He just changed that. I'm not
718
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:36.480
a hooker looker. Yeah, but
you were in the dress up the here,
719
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.119
No, I was in it.
I was ten. I wasn't trying
720
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.599
to sell it broad at that time. I was ten. Don't say anything,
721
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.159
Nancy. So I had a plastic
I was in New York. We
722
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.480
were and I had a plastic knife. But the guy was irritating me,
723
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:59.440
and I got mad at him with
my flaming red hair and I went to
724
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.599
stab them with my knife, and
my shoe slipped on them and my teeth
725
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.800
hit and I broke my teeth.
I didn't build up, and my mother
726
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.639
was so upset with me. My
my dad brought me back home the marble
727
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.840
at my teeth. No, your
teeth hit the marble. Now, if
728
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.119
you were a helpa and today's day
and did that on a subduing the floor
729
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.960
company, you'd be getting the lecor
chair right now. Then getting letting out,
730
00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:32.719
yeahs letting the word left with it
done. Now I'm telling you that
731
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.639
I had to stab somebody, I
would I we're going to say the guy
732
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.440
punched you. Wait, Dave?
What was Dave? Your coach? Dave
733
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.159
Tibbott. Okay, When I got
the job with the Legends, Dave calls
734
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.159
me. He goes come come to
the Star Center in Frisco. He gets
735
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.800
me on skates and I was a
little shaky on the skates, but I
736
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:58.039
really want to learn how to go
backwards. I don't know how. So
737
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.880
he gave me the gloves and everything, and two minutes in I fell my
738
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.199
gloves up and I'm pushing him and
trying to fight him. Oh I know.
739
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.599
But he's like, do you want
to fight or do you want to
740
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:14.519
skate? I'm like, I want
to really rather fight from New York.
741
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.639
What do you expect? First,
you weren't wearing the same short dress at
742
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.960
the time with you, I would
know ice girl. I didn't. I'm
743
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:28.719
not an ice girl. But I'd
love to drive the zamboni. I'm sure
744
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.119
we can give you one. You
can drive around town like you're probably you
745
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:35.199
ever have you ever driven one?
Yes? You have once? One time
746
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.440
you drunk once. No, I
was younger, It's like fourteen years old,
747
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.800
so I was Nancy. She was
apparently ten, dressing for the town.
748
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:45.760
Yeah, that's training, like pretty
woman. What do you guys got
749
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.440
to? Where's your car? My
car has been totaled as him yesterday,
750
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.559
and he sold his bike. But
I'm getting but that's by design. He
751
00:53:55.679 --> 00:54:00.960
saw a bike. We went to
the shoe the data we're done shooting somebody
752
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.119
one went to the Harley shop.
Yeah, sold it and I said,
753
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.039
well here's what I want. We
can do that, you know, And
754
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:08.360
then my car got totally as of
yesterday from the hailstorm. Yeah, but
755
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:10.920
I'm gonna bring it back. I'm
sorry, but you're gonna buy a new
756
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.159
bike. You're gonna bring a wout
whatever I took. I apologize. Oh
757
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.159
yeah, you but you're buying a
new bike. Yeah. I think Macy
758
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:22.360
could run a Harley. You know
what your ball? The ball said Neil.
759
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:28.840
He says he's gonna let me come
out take batting practice and have a
760
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.559
UNI group my name on it.
Because the last time when Buck was there
761
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:37.159
and Dion and I went, did
we walk in and Dion has a uniform
762
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.159
that says Sanders, he has a
hat, a belt, and and they're
763
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:44.119
like, I'm like, we had
a T shirt for you, give you
764
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:50.559
a Ranger's T shirt. And I'm
like, isn't that right? Like really,
765
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.079
yeah, well hey that's bucked for
you, by the way, Yeah
766
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.400
yeah, but he let me use
this parking spot underneath, So you have
767
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.840
to give you a uniform, give
me a uniform, let me get an
768
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:07.199
account. Speaking of uniforms, bastling
Nancy today, what he came in here
769
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:13.000
with a Dirk Novitski jersey so that
he could sign it for him? Did
770
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:17.039
he and that on his wall?
But he ran off on so you didn't
771
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.320
get there to sign it. Yet
he ran off. I'll get him later,
772
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.440
we'll get him, we'll see him
again. I'm gonna get a Nancy
773
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:23.719
Leebman. I'm gonna have her sign
it, and you're gonna wear it around
774
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.079
town. Let's I would be proud
to wear that. You wouldn't you take
775
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.360
in your closet? Like? Do
we have a male and female legend on
776
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:34.679
that jersey? I wanted to get
a game one one so it stinks,
777
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.119
right, Oh my gosh, this
thing smelled so stinking. Bet he's gonna
778
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.639
person Nancy. No, no,
she got to pick up it. But
779
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.760
look at this Caitlin's jersey. She
gave me after the game Monday, and
780
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:52.159
I was so super happy, so
I wore it during the game Monday.
781
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.639
Yeah, it's stunk. It smells. She's sweat, Nancy. But she
782
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.320
signed it to me and took it
off from her back. How many times
783
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.039
have you done that? A lot? But that was cool of her,
784
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.920
right? Cool? No, very
cool? Yeah. Now, so let
785
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:08.840
me ask you this, and we
got to get off. We gotta beat
786
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.920
up. I gotta go. Let
me ask you what are we doing the
787
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.559
show here? Yeah, we're still
doing So let me ask you this yes,
788
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:19.199
can they beat flipping LSU? This
year it's a one against the three?
789
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.159
Can they Can they beat LSU?
I want them to beat I love
790
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.920
her. I want them to beat
LSU. They're not as athletic as LSU
791
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.039
is, and LSU's a better rebounding
team and Kim Wlkey's a good coach.
792
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.960
I mean, I think the physicality
of LSU is going. What's gonna separate
793
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.440
the right because they're going to isolate
her, They're going to make the rest
794
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.400
of the team. What do you
do in sports as coaches and t what
795
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.599
do you do? You isolate their
best player and get beat by the rest,
796
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.519
right, And that's what they're gonna
do. Well. Last year she
797
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:46.280
had forty one against them. Oh
she did. Yeah. In the in
798
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.679
the championship game, she had forty
one and they lost by sixteen points.
799
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.079
Okay, can we stop talking about
sports for a second? Can we can
800
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:59.760
we hear I want to hear how
they can of corn and your charity cam
801
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:06.480
Oh wow? What corn? Your
can of corn? Really? Yes?
802
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:10.440
I want to can you give us
You're gonna cry? Okay? So yes,
803
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:15.000
I was poured out a can of
corn for me to go to the
804
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.199
Olympics. Yes, I can't believe
you remember that. It's true. He's
805
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.599
had a lot of concussions. I
don't know how he remembers anything name,
806
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.760
but he remembers that. I'm sorry. He calls it alcoholism. He called
807
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:31.599
me Karen before. So I'm fourteen
years old. I get to go to
808
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.280
a tryout. I come home and
I go, Ma, Mama, I'm
809
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.559
going to the US tryouts. And
she goes like, hell you are.
810
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.639
I don't have money to put food
on the table. I can't fly you
811
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.440
to Albuquerque. This can of corn
they opened it, they cleaned it,
812
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.880
and they put an envelope that said
we're endeavoring to raise three hundred dollars to
813
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:54.480
send Nancy to the US tryouts.
This is nineteen seventy four. Strangers put
814
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.639
money in a can, and I
had enough to go to the tryouts.
815
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:05.119
Where were they n New Mexico.
And it was amazing, Like I was
816
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.440
like a sophomore in high school and
this is Pat Summit and Lucy Harris and
817
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:15.360
these are Hall of Famers and Myers. I was overwhelmed with I had never
818
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.360
seen so many great women play.
And then the next year I make the
819
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:23.239
Pan Am team as a junior,
we win the gold. Then my senior
820
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:28.440
year we win the silver, and
I'm still in high school. I wish
821
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:31.079
I knew where the people. I'm
sure they're no longer with us because that
822
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:36.079
we're so generous to put money in
a can that went door to door in
823
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:40.800
far rockaway. So if that can
happen to me, we can do stuff
824
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:45.440
for other people. People did it
on blind faith and kindness. I'm not
825
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:51.079
here with you, guys. If
strangers didn't help me, I had nothing.
826
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:52.880
I had no food, no heat, no electricity, no father.
827
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:59.280
That's where I'm at right now.
Christmas Tree though at the house, but
828
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:04.480
we got four they're still around a
lot of Yeah, but that's part of
829
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.760
your charity. That that's the only
reason I do it, because like I
830
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.800
didn't wake up at fifty or make
like us make good money and then say
831
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.519
I have a conscience about helping people. I know what it's like to feel
832
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:24.639
less. I know what it's like
to not have It sucks to have that
833
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.239
in your life. We can take
a perfectly wonderful child who maybe doesn't look
834
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:36.320
like us, and we can be
dream givers, not hopestealers. I have
835
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.400
so many Nancy Camp moments. Nancy
can't do that. Nancy, you can't
836
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:42.039
do that. Nancy. You can't
be around you know luds, you can't
837
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:46.400
be around you know menche or Atigan, you know girls, don't. Who
838
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:52.199
were you to tell me what I
can be? You should be encouraging me.
839
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:57.679
And even if it doesn't happen.
I mean, look at Billy Jean
840
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.760
King. Look what she did for
me. What were you ten years old
841
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.679
when you started playing at Rucker Park? Twelve Rocker you know, yeah,
842
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.199
Rutger Park a park in New York. It is the place where every great
843
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:12.599
player from New York goes and they
play pick up, right, most of
844
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.679
them, we've we've heard of,
right, all these kids that come through
845
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.199
Rucker Park make it to the NBA. Nancy's there's a twelve year old and
846
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.440
somebody, thank goodness, they take
me. Obviously it's a bunch of African
847
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:27.360
American kids who are who are really
good at basketball, and somebody took her
848
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.840
under their wing and said let's go. Doesn't it sound like, Nancy that
849
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:36.360
that little children's work at the engine
that could little that isn't that new?
850
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:42.239
It is Dion talks about. Dion
talks about that everybody has his story.
851
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.639
I'm you know, I don't look
at myself as a minority. I know
852
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:52.199
I'm a woman and technically in this
world. But my job is I'm a
853
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.960
risk taker. I'm a rule breaker. When I say rule breaker, you
854
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.840
know I'm not, you know,
running a stealing. But you can't tell
855
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:01.440
me. I can't coach man.
You can't tell me I can't win a
856
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.039
championship. You can't tell me I
can't. Dirk and I and think about
857
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:13.920
this in all the years we've been
here together. In twenty twenty three,
858
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:21.280
Dirk Novitzky and me were inducted into
the Nasmith Basketball Hall of Fame together my
859
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:25.079
Olympic team went in. I've already
been in, and we go in,
860
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.920
and we looked at each other and
went, can you believe we're the class
861
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:35.559
of twenty twenty three? You can
never take that away. Baseball was my
862
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:43.000
best sport. Bobby Mercer was my
hero, my hero in baseball. Hockey
863
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.760
was my favorite best sport. Growing
up. We used to play roller hockey.
864
01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:52.400
I was Eddie Jockerman, Remember Eddie
no face mask. I mean we
865
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.159
had, like I said, the
gagline and Walter Kochuk and all these guys,
866
01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.679
my mother's like, what is wrong
with you? My mother took me
867
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:07.400
to a psychologist when I was eleven
years old because I used to sleep with
868
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:13.719
the transistor listening and more of Albert
all the hockey games, and you know,
869
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.760
Jockman is between the pipes and only
God saved more than Bernie Parant.
870
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:23.719
Right, I'm you except older.
Well, you're a sports we think about
871
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:28.599
talking about what we as athletes are
generating. Right, Luds didn't even know
872
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.480
he was going to college and they
told me he was. I mean,
873
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.079
right, you tell us you can't
do it. They tell us, you
874
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:35.239
know you're too small, you know
you're not going to do this. But
875
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.079
that just it speaks volumes to what
we were taught told as kids that you're
876
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.679
not it's you can't play. Those
are boys. You can't do it,
877
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.119
Luds, you can't do it.
This is just you know, I can't
878
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:46.559
do it because of this. But
look at what it's done, because I
879
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:52.719
think that's what's missing from this generation
now, of people telling them they can't
880
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.320
do it. Okay, then I'll
just go you know what else does everybody
881
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.280
tells them they can now? Yeah, oh yeah, especially their parents.
882
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:00.800
Well that's why everybody, here's your
trophy, anticipate you canborate, which in
883
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:06.800
tull shit, the whole participation thing
is BS. There's gonna be a winner
884
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:10.119
and a loser. Like I once
asked Kobe and uh Lebron, I said,
885
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:13.280
are you okay? Like how much
money you make? And they're like,
886
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:15.840
what you know? Like ninety million? I said, are you okay
887
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:22.400
diving up your contract with the team
one fourteenth or one fifteenth and they're like
888
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:27.239
no, no, Like Kobe said, there's a reason why I don't trust
889
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:32.719
you and I won't give you the
ball in crucial situations because when I'm going
890
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.440
out to work out at four in
the morning, you're coming in at four
891
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.519
in the morning, I don't trust
you. You're the last one to practice
892
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:44.159
and the person coming in please coming
in? Yeah, I'm please out drinking
893
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:46.559
until that point when you were coming
in. But to make it to where
894
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.920
you are in your career, and
you know, Menschi, where you are
895
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.920
in your career in rads, I
mean, how many how many awards do
896
01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:00.400
you have? How many you gotta
who We've all been told that you can't
897
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.159
do it right, You're not going
to be able to deal it. So
898
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.679
we're here and we all have a
background a different story. But we're all
899
01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:14.519
grateful and we're mean as shit,
and we competed like the devil, and
900
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:18.039
it's okay to want to win.
It's so, why did I play at
901
01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.800
fifty? Why did I play at
thirty nine? I wanted to see if
902
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:26.400
I could do it. I wanted
my kid to know what his mommy did.
903
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.719
Yeah, I didn't have my prime. Yeah. By the time you
904
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.079
played at fifty, you weren't his
mommy anymore. You were like ma right,
905
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.480
and he's like, yeah, hey, let's get in the game.
906
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:42.639
Yeaheah. Born with a competitive geam. I think we all were, though,
907
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:44.760
right, we had people that we
looked up to. I'm more sol
908
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.480
than other. We're still competitive,
right, yeah. And here's the problem,
909
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:49.840
I think, just to ship,
how do you motivate this generation?
910
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:53.480
All I had to do is a
kid would say, I'm going to be
911
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:55.159
better than you, you and you? What do I need to do?
912
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:57.800
Now? It's just I'm gonna be
a ready Okay, I watched it.
913
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:00.400
I'm better than you think I'm going
yeah, right, you know what I
914
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:02.639
am? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. You know why we build dream courts.
915
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:04.679
We're trying to get these kids out
of the house. You know,
916
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:09.599
we play roller hockey, we played
volleyball, we played tennis, and now
917
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:13.280
we play golf on dream courts.
We put nets and the little strip and
918
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.519
let we get kids who have been
told, oh, you're black, you
919
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.800
don't get to play. You play
basketball and football. No you don't.
920
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:25.880
You do not get to tell me
what I can be sport office. It's
921
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.519
not fair. Try everything. Yeah, absolutely, that's why we do what
922
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.320
we do. We gotta. Yeah, we got a look at day things
923
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:40.119
like I got another gig here,
overtime pay yeah, yeah, yeah,
924
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:43.559
he knows better. Yeah, Lorie
Paul and you're going to yeah dinner.
925
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:45.920
We so appreciate you. I hope
you watch every minute of this. It's
926
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.920
awesome with Nancy, she's a Hall
of Famer. We got Eddie on,
927
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:57.280
we all got one's a golf tournament. Good number seventeen. Castle Hill is
928
01:05:57.360 --> 01:06:04.360
September sixteenth, Charities Charity's great.
Just what she's doing gallery the fourteenth.
929
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:06.679
I think I should try to get
Dirk to bring some of this. Uh
930
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:13.480
okay, yeah, oh yeah,
I'm go get the big german out there.
931
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.239
Okay, no to So who's your
big star this year? Do you
932
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:20.960
have a big, huge star.
Okay, let me tell you our friend.
933
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:27.159
We wanted to honor Dirk. His
event is the same day he and
934
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.360
I talked. He felt horrible.
Text me Nancy, I'm so sorry.
935
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.360
I'm so sorry. I'm like,
stop, I'm gonna see if we'll work
936
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:41.760
our date in twenty twenty five.
We're gonna honor him. I'm praying and
937
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.800
hoping that either Jason Kidd or Shack
says yes, I'm talking to this.
938
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:51.199
Yes, So I mean, just
for your prayers out there that they will
939
01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:55.480
do it. Shack, who don't. We'll always have the same group of
940
01:06:55.519 --> 01:06:58.920
guys that are always there. Your
buddy Jay Harris, he's the best.
941
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.559
Day's always what a guy. We
love that man. She went to college
942
01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:09.519
well together. I'm older, but
you got to know Dave stopped recording five
943
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:13.039
minutes. We gotta let Dave go. Thank you ve been awesome. We'll
944
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:13.719
see you next time.
