Is Absolute Batman Becoming Predictable?

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Hello everybody, my name is Paul.
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And I'm Clayton.
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And you're listening to the Beyond the Poolist podcast.
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Hey, we're here.
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Clayton, we've been gone for a minute.
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We have.
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I wonder why.
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I don't know.
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Did something happen?
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I think something really, really, really big happened.
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Or maybe really small.
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I I don't know how to phrase that.
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Was it the Spider-Man brand new day trailer?
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Or was it something more special, more unique?
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Like or oh, I remember what it was.
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What was it?
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I had a daughter.
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You did have a daughter.
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You are a father now.
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I am a father now.
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How does that feel?
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Uh it feels crazy.
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Uh this is my first uh father's day in two days.
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Yep.
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That's oh it is.
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Yep.
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You are you are yep.
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So you're gonna your first father's day.
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Yeah.
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I I I but everything went well.
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Uh she is amazing.
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Uh at this point, the time of recording, she is three weeks old today.
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Oh, yeah.
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So uh that's crazy.
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Um she was born and she was eight pounds, two ounces, and very healthy, yeah, very good.
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Uh very great baby.
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She hardly ever cries.
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Yeah.
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Only when she's hungry or got a dirty diaper or something like that.
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Yeah.
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And um, yeah, she's she's just doing great.
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She is awesome.
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She loves comic books already.
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Yeah.
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I've seen, I've seen.
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You've been you've been showing me a little bit, and I'm like, okay.
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So she's she's she's growing into a comic book fan.
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Yeah.
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Um, I got to hold her whenever um that happened, and that was a very surreal experience.
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Um I did a like for those of you who don't know, I actually recorded an episode that never came out because while he was on a break, I've recorded something and I talked about it a little bit, and I was just like, man, this is like it was the most insane feeling for like, you know, we we met each other when we were both really young and we worked at a comic book store together, and to be holding his child, like, you know, it it's the most you're a father.
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I can't even I can't even imagine how you feel.
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But like for me, I'm just like, this is insane, this is wild.
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It it it uh it it blows my mind.
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I mean, we will be sitting there holding her, rocking her to sleep, and we just will bust out in tears, like and and not that anything's wrong, but it's like this is everything we have ever wanted in our entire lives, like in our hands.
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This is a physical demonstration of God's grace, like in our arms.
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Yep, and it is just it's just mind-blowing.
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She has um such an amazing personality, it's it's crazy to see the things that she got from me and the crazy things to see from she got from her mom.
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Yeah, and from me, and from you, she has FOMO really bad.
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Uh and that's not even a joke, really.
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She sometimes refuses to go to sleep because she wants to see everything that's going on around the just wants to look around.
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Um, but she has been introduced uh actually the first night.
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She watched uh Star Wars uh Return of the Jedi with us.
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Yes, yep.
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Um, she has watched Transformers, and actually, strangely enough, and it could be because I listened to Transformers, I watched Transformers, read Transformers while she was in the womb.
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Um, but Transformers puts her to sleep.
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She will sleep when it's on in the background.
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Yeah, and it's the cartoon, it's not Michael Bay, okay.
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Right, right, yeah.
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We gotta get her on the back.
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She's not old enough for that yet.
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She will be.
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So you know, like she's gonna be like, this is the best thing I've ever seen.
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I was actually telling Paul before he came over.
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I was uh we were laying in the floor uh doing uh we weren't doing Tummy Time, she was on her back, but we were um I was reading comic books to her.
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Yeah, I was reading uh Beta Ray Bill by Daniel Warren Johnson, and I I'm reading it and I'm doing voices and sound effects and stuff.
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And uh and of course she's three weeks old, so like really how much does she understand?
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Right, right, right.
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We got to a page where spoiler alert, Fing Feng Foom is there, and he's ripping apart like these as guardians, and he's like eating them, and I hear and I look over and she's like a smile and sort of snapping pictures.
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She's got this huge smile on her face, and I'm like, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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She just becomes a fing fang foom fan.
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Or a beta ray building.
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Or a beta ray building.
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I mean, neither one are bad.
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No, but neither one aren't the best.
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You're not really ever gonna get a series of either one.
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Yeah, you're never gonna get it.
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Yeah, you're never gonna get a movie of that, or yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Only tie-ins, yeah, unfortunately.
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Um but but yeah, that's that's been an awesome experience.
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I I I'm blown away every day.
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Well, and and you know, like being one of your best friends, I just I can't help but like it's so it's so awesome.
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You know, I came over here like a week ago and just literally sat and held her like the entire time I was here.
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And it's funny because Gabrielle's like, oh yeah, Paul can come as long as you know, like he's not gonna take the baby and the entire time.
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I'm just like, this is a child that I love, I love this child.
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Like, I I want to I will kill anyone for you.
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Like, what which comic book would you like?
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Amazing fantasy 15?
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Okay, I'll go get it for you.
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You know, like it's just it it's so I don't know.
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She she's she and she wakes up and she gives you this like look of like like she would look at me be like, like it's it's kind of like she's got a little sass to her.
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She does, but she gets that from her mom.
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Oh so this might be my last beyond the fold.
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Gabrielle just busts through the door right now.
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She's like, Clayton, you talking shit.
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She she knows.
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She she admits that she gets her facial expressions.
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My wife, I love her to death, but you can tell what she's thinking by her face.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And uh so Aurora definitely has that, our daughter.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And uh, we joke that she got that from Gabriella and she got her farts and talking in her sleep from me.
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Yeah, she talks in her sleep.
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She'll be sitting there going, uh and I'm like, and uh the question, the question of like the newborn question that I have is what do babies dream about?
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Because they they haven't done anything.
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They don't know anything, they've just been like born.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, that's probably all it is.
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It's just that it's just the same dream.
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It's just replaying birth over and over.
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And sometimes it's like great and it's like all like sunny, and then other times it's just like a bunch of doctors with medallical equipment, and then that's when they like up screaming and crying.
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You know?
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Well, now that I've introduced her to Thing Fang Foom, she might dream about it.
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Yeah, she's like Fing Feng Foom and Transformers.
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I'm dreaming of Optimus Pride riding Fing Fang Foom.
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Wait, funny, funny enough, can you can you say the thing, the Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So so my wife and I, we wanted to do a natural birth.
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Yeah.
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Uh we wanted to try to do everything as natural as possible, no inductions, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff.
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Well, unfortunately, due to uh circumstances beyond our control, she had to be induced.
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And we had talked about it before, our doula, uh, who is kind of like a midwife, she recommended that we come up with a code word for an epidural.
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Uh, and an epidural is gonna reduce the pain.
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It's a five-inch needle that goes into your spine, uh, but it reduces a lot of the pain.
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Well, uh and and my wife, she was so strong doing the whole thing.
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And I'm so, so proud of her.
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And I even to this day, like, I can't tell you you think you love somebody like when you marry them, when you're dating, when you're engaged, but when you watch that person you love go through the birth, that love takes on a whole new meaning.
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Yeah, and um so she did so incredible.
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And she said, give me the epidural, give me the epidural.
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And I said, No, uh, you you well, I felt horrible.
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I felt horrible because she's crying, she's in pain.
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And I and because we agreed, and she made me promise beforehand, before I sound like a horrible husband, she made me promise beforehand.
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The thing about me, if I promise something, I'm gonna stick with it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She made me promise not to give her the epidural unless she said the code word.
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Yeah, so she is screaming, she's crying and begging for it, and I'm I I want to give it to her like riding it down.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But uh she she's on her side, tears down her face, looking at me, holding my hand, saying, Please, I want the epidural.
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I said, You have to say the code word.
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And she's like, You're really gonna make me say it.
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I said, Yes, that's what we promised.
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Optimus Brian.
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Now give me the epidural.
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When you told me that when I came by, I was like, that is the best thing I've ever heard of, ever.
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That is the most funniest thing I've like-I knew she would never say that in the normal conversation.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She would never just be talking about Optimus Prime while giving birth.
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So I had to make it something that she would that she would remember.
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But but but the baby's here.
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She, you know, we're in her room right now.
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She's not in the room, but we're we're recording in her room, and um, you know, so she is, she's it's it's such an exciting time in your life.
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And I I I wish I could experience what you're experiencing because I it's exciting.
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Very exciting.
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Maybe before you know it.
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Maybe, you never know.
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Yeah, you'll you'll be the great dad one day.
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You know, I I hope so.
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You know, I hope I hope I can, you know, I hope I can do better than you know, like ow youing riding venom or something.
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Well, we have a lot of other exciting things to do.
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This is a big week because we we missed out a little bit.
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So we missed a few things.
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Not too much, because you know, this was actually kind of the next big week for us.
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Right.
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So it kind of all worked out.
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Right.
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Um, so what are we gonna talk about today, Clayton?
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Well, we are gonna talk, uh, let's go from the bottom up.
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So we're gonna talk about Swamp Thing 1989.
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Okay.
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Uh we talk there is a re unreleased issue of Swamp Thing that made the creator quit.
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Uh, we got a comment from one of our followers asking us to talk about it.
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So we're gonna talk about that today, but that's towards the end.
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Yep.
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We're also gonna talk about the Spider-Man brand new day trailer again at the end.
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Uh Venom 258.
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You're gonna talk about your favorite comic that's ever come out.
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Yeah, there's uh there's some news to that, there's some stuff going on um that might be signifying the end.
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So hopefully um that's where this is going.
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But we're gonna report on it today.
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We are, and then I'm going to make a brief mention about an image book that I have been really enjoying.
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Yeah.
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Uh and that uh I think you would probably enjoy too if you're just looking for a fun book.
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Yeah.
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Uh called Dork.
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Whenever I I picked that up for him, I was I went by the store and picked it up while he was, you know, being a father.
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And I was like, um, Clayton's looking for Transformers and D Orc.
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And then I went, oh, I see, I see what this is.
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I was like, I'm stupid.
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Uh it's it's a very fun series.
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Uh uh, so I'll talk about that just briefly.
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Yeah.
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We're going to try to talk about Transformers 33, because some crazy things are happening.
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Yeah.
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But the big thing, the thing that we're going to get into right now is Absolute Batman number 21.
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Yes.
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Which is it happens.
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It finally happens.
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It did.
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So let's go ahead and get into it.
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Let's get into it.
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Alrighty.
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It's Absolute Batman 21 time.
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Alright.
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I picked up two covers of this book.
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I picked up cover A, which is the cover with Two Face on it, and then the variant cover with the penguin on it, which I love the penguin's design.
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Like, we actually we have our comics sitting out usually when we do the show, just what we're talking about.
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And um, that was the one I chose to sit out because like I love that he's got the min minigun crutches.
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Yeah.
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Um, I don't care that much for these covers this time around because it just looks more like character reveals.
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You mentioned that.
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Right, yeah.
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Um and I I I agree with you.
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Um, but they're still good, they're still cool covers.
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There's still cool covers.
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I mean, there's still like Nick Dragada art, and you can't go wrong with Dragata art.
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And also I've noticed that like we're getting we're getting to the point where we're about to have like a cover with every villain on it.
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Like we have the main cover, which is absolute, which is Batman.
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We have 15, which is Joker.
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We have there's a variant cover for issue seven or eight, which is Freeze.
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Yeah.
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And then now we've got Penguin, and we've got uh Two Face.
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12 was Killer Croc.
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Yes.
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Um 13 was Catwoman.
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Yeah, we had the Bane cover.
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The Bane cover, yep.
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There's a yep.
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So we're we're getting it's it there is a recurring cover release here where it's like we're getting a cover with every villain on it, which is cool.
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Which would be cool to have them all laid out and you know, you know, when you're sitting there.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's just like, here's our absolute Batman villains.
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They're my favorite.
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Like Joker is the best.
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Um, but we get a we get a we get a big start.
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Now, if you remember in the last issue, um, it left off with Batman being confronted by the Robins and they're about to fight, and that's where it ended.
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And we pick right up into it.
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Like, no, no questions asked, no, no nothing.
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Batman is about to fight the Robins.
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Yeah.
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And if you want to go ahead and talk about that.
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Yeah, so right off the bat, they're basically telling Batman, stand down.
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Yeah.
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Like you're done for You're not gonna win.
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You're not gonna win.
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And uh and and Alfred and and Harley are on the on the line to Bruce.
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Yeah, get out of there, get out of there.
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You can't fight them.
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And uh, I love this line by Harley.
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Uh she says, Oh, he's listening, Jeeves, just not to you.
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He's listening to Batman.
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And then you turn the page and it's Batman.
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It's such a cool two-page sprint.
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And he's got his his his cape wrapped around his arm to the point where it's like it's like a it's like a stack of hooks.
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Yeah.
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Like all the little ends on each of the of the oh, it's so cool.
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It's and he's smiling, like, oh, it's so cool.
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These are bad odds for you.
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Yeah, these are bad odds for you.
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Oh, yeah, because the Robins are like, you're not gonna win, dude.
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Like you are you're outmatched, and he's like, Yeah, um, yeah, someone is outmatched, and it's you because I'm Batman, and I'm absolute Batman.
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Even Deadpool's scared of me.
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So um, but uh, but yeah, like we get into this, and um do you want to talk about the straw man thing?
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We made a post about it, but I think that's I think I think you're really on to it.
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Okay.
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I love that theory that you have.
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Okay, so so with the straw man, there's a logical fallacy in an argument called the straw man, and you basically build up a false narrative.
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You're you're feeling building up something about your opponent to attack that, not your opponent's actual argument.
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So my theory is that Scott Snyder and Nick Dragata and the rest of the team have chosen this title specifically because the scarecrow is the straw man to Joker.
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He is not the real enemy, uh, but he is the one that Batman's gonna attack and go after.
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Yeah.
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And that uh so that way he's not focused on Joker.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That way he can't go after Joker because he's focused on this villain instead.
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So that's that's roughly the the theory, but also that um they're making Batman out to be the real problem, the joke, the the Robins are a fake hero kind of thing.
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Uh so a lot, yeah.
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Check out our Instagram post.
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Check out that Instagram post, yeah.
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1776, and you'll see uh my full theory explain that.
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He did that theory, and I've like because I kept asking him, I was like, what are you talking?
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You said something about that.
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What are you talking about?
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And I'm like, because I keep thinking about it, and then when that post came out, I was like, This is like this, if this isn't on the money, like I'm gonna be pissed.
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Like, this is a good theory.
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Like, this is this is the best.
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Like, this is better than Venom being in Spider-Man Brand New Day type theories, you know what I mean?
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Which he is, because you know, they have to.
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I'm gonna throw up on this table all over my absolute Batman books.
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But Batman goes in, he's fighting the Robins, and it's it's immediately like uh Wade makes a comment, or not Wade, Slade, sorry, Wade Wilson.
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Slade Deadpool's here?
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Deadpool's here?
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Yeah, I'm on a Deadpool kick today, I guess.
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Um Slade Wilson makes a comment that he's talking to somebody and to cut their comms off.
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So um Dick Grayson's Robin bot shoot- is that Dick Grayson's I think or is that uh yeah, because Dick Grayson is the uh the like the medical one.
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He shoots off these EMPs to disable his communication.
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And Slade says, like, um he's he makes a comment and he says, um, what does he say?
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He says, uh, where is it?
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He says something along the lines of like, I know, I know who he's talking to.
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Yeah.
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Like he he's had a path with with Alfred before.
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Him and Alfred have crossed paths in some in some way or have some relationship.
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Um, but the the Robins start like going all off on Batman.
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Um there there's this scene where one of the Robins has a motorcycle and he starts driving up to hit Batman, and Batman's cape lays out and it's got freaking road spikes on it.
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Like, that's so cool.
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And and blows his bike up immediately.
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And then Jason Todd's like, screw this, brrrrr, and just starts shooting through bit now.
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Now hit his mech is the biggest.
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His is like a Pacific Rim mech almost.
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If you ever seen Paci, have you seen Pacific Rim?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Okay, yeah.
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Um, we talked about being in a in a Jaeger together.
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We would be.
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If we were if yeah, we would be in a Jaeger together for sure.
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Um they're destroying buildings, they're they're it honestly causing like intense chaos.
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Um and uh Dick Grayson actually is like, oh my gosh, this is uh, you know, he's this isn't what we signed up for.
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Yeah, this ain't we're we're we're supposed to protect people, like, and we're not doing that.
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We're causing destruction.
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And um that's when Slade makes the comment.
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Um anyone who uh or uh Dick Grayson says something about like him uh okay, no.
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Slade says Batman is a murderous terrorist uh out to destroy their home, and what's more uh he has someone else behind him, someone I know well.
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Yeah.
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So there's your there's your connection with with Alfred.
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Yeah.
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Which Scott Snyder has said they have an Obi-Wan Darth Vader relationship.
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So I I'm assuming that Alfred was probably his mentor at one point.
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Slade turned, he cut off his legs and his arms.
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Yeah.
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He had the high ground.
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Yeah, the high ground.
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If that's not in here, Scott Snyder, I'll stop by that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Where's Darth Vader?
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It's absolute Darth Vader.
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Dude, can you imagine what that would be like?
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I don't even I don't even want to.
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Like he's already scary.
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Yeah.
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Um, but there's one panel going back to the very beginning.
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I just want to talk about how strong like the robins are in their suits.
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Um, Stephanie um hits him, and so like their motorcycles transform to like small mech suits.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so she hits Batman.
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She gets one good and sends him flying straight into a building.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Like so, this isn't just Batman being epic and crazy, just beating everybody up.
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Like they're they're putting up a really good fight.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Uh uh Dick even says, like, like Steph's hit had to break every bone in his body.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Uh so you know that you know it this is a good fight.
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Like straight off the bat, dude, yeah, you're hooked.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No pun intended.
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You're hooked with Batman's Bathooks or Jinchu.
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Um, but yeah, so Batman and they're fighting, and um, it's really cool because he jumps out like uh Dick says, Um uh when you when you find him, he's gonna need some serious medical attention.
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Then Batman jumps out of the building and and she's like, Looks pretty damn healthy to me.
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He's like, he's like going to fight Dick.
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Yeah.
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Um so I'm curious, I I like that uh Dick Grayson has that heroic side to him, but he doesn't like Batman in this in this universe.
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So I'm very curious to like if that will ever come to be and if he will ever become Robin.
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I can see him transition to not Robin but Nightwing.
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Absolute Nightwing.
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Absolute Nightwing.
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That would be cool.
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And we're because we're getting absolute batgirl in what October?
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September, October.
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September, okay.
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Which um, oh my gosh, that's really cool because she's wearing uh Jim Gordon's uh trench coat.
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Yeah, and it has hooks on the bottom, like the bat hooks.
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Oh, does it really notice that?
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Yeah, it's got the bat hooks and she's got a shotgun, and she's like beefed.
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This issue, she looks beefed up in here.
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Yeah, she started, she's starting to working out and eating protein.
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Like she's she's hitting Planet Fitness hard.
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She opened up the creatine, just like she eats it off.
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She eats it with a spoon.
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Um like her muscles, she literally just bans out just a little bit.
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Which I'm very excited to see that because like I wonder if she's gonna be killing people.
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She's holding a shotgun.
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That's a shotgun.
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I mean, she's that's a tactical shotgun.
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I could see I could see that.
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They'll set up a little conflict between I and I wonder if they're gonna get have Nightwing and Batgirl get together.
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Maybe I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I can see it.
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I can see it happening.
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I can see it, yeah.
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Um, so anyways, we we go through their fight.
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Uh Dick Grayson kinda gets out of his suit.
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You know, like you were saying, he's saying this is kind of ridiculous.
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Um Alfred and Harley are also working to help Bruce out.
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And uh this is really cool.
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I I don't know if this is actually true.
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Do you about the bats?
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Where she says, Oh yeah.
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So m most she Harley says, most stay with their colonies for life, talking about bats, but some uh some are wanderers.
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They'll stay with one colony for a while, they'll form bonds, build families, and then without warning, they'll just leave and strike out on their own.
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The thing is, even if they forget the colony, the colony doesn't forget them.
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They lose a nice spot.
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They say the colony remembers each call as a group, so even if no bat the if no bat the wanderer knew is still alive, the colony can still pick them out of a million other bats just by the call.
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All which to say, yes, Jeeves, we got him.
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Yeah.
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And a bunch of bat drones, it's all like drones.
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I'm not uh that's okay.
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I don't I think it could have been cooler.
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But but the bat drones.
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Literally drones with uh like a bat face.
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With a bat face, yeah.
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And they're there there's like hundreds of them swarming in to like to stop uh the mechs, and they're they're hitting them hard because like uh um uh Jason Todd says that the drones are damaging his sensors.
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Um, you know, they're all getting hit and they're all like taking cover.
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Like it's it's it's it's heavy, it's metal.
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But uh one of the drones gets Batman and and takes him out, which he He's he's he's pretty beaten.
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Yeah.
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He he got he he kind of took some hits.
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Well yeah, he got knocked into a building.
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The building got collapsed off him.
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Boom!
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So yeah, he definitely took a beating.
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He took a little bit of a beating.
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He got kind of swamped just a little bit.
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Um but then we go back to um Bruce's past um with his uh you know doing his uh thing with Falcone and he he talks to to to uh Jim Gordon and you know they're kind of having this talk about like how like hey you don't you know like you know Wayland took out this loan to help you, so you don't have to keep doing this.
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And Bruce is like, Yeah, but now they're in debt.
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Like they paid off my debt, but now they're in debt, and I'm not gonna have my friends be in debt for me.
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Right.
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And you know, you know, Gordon is just like, hey man, like, you know, we we're here to help you.
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You know, we're like you need to allow people to help you.
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And he's he he's like sorry, like sorry for what I'm about to say, and he's like, get out of here, you stupid pig, and you know, like and he's like, Yeah, boys, I got him, you know, and it's just it's it's kind of sad, honestly.
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It's it's sad, you know.
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But Bruce has very I don't know, what do you what do you think about it?
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It it's emotional.
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This is definitely a very Jim Gordon heavy arc, I would almost say, because Jim has been brought up several times.
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Yeah, and he died at the very beginning of it.
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He died at the very beginning.
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So we're seeing like just how much he um cared for Bruce.
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Um not just Batman, but for Bruce.
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Yeah.
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And and that panel really this this whole page really kind of talks about uh just how much everybody believes in him and how much he believes in him, how his mom believes in him.
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Yeah.
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Um so that's and then there's this line for what it's worth, that bat does have a soft spot.
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All bats do.
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It's where they get the power, their power.
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I'll see you around, son.
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And and that's what Jim Gordon says to Bruce.
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Yeah.
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And he's talking about the baseball bat, not like Batman, because I don't think he was Batman yet.
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Not yet.
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Um but obviously that's a reference to what he Bruce is dealing with, that he has a soft spot.
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Yeah.
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Um, but he's trying to suppress that.
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Yeah.
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Uh so then we go to the next page and we go to Jim Gordon's funeral.
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And uh Barbara is giving a speech his his eulogy uh talking about how much he'll be remembered, what he was doing for other people, how much he cared for not just the city, but for everyone around him.
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This is where you really see Barbara has beefed up.
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Yeah.
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She she's yeah, she's yeah, she's got she's got some muscle job.
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Yeah, she's Jack.
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She's like three of me.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They make it very clear, they're like, oh, she's she's big now.
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She's working out.
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I like the subtle touch in the one panel where her eyes are really pink to show how much she's been crying.
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Yeah.
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Um, I I I like that nice little touch.
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Yeah.
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Um, but so we we see several people at the funeral.
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We see Bruce is there.
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He's in disguise.
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He's he's he's high hooded, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, go ahead.
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Uh we we have all of his friends there.
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So Penguin's there, Riddler's there, Two Face is there, and Wayland's there.
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And they're all kind of in disguise too.
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Yeah.
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As much as they can be.
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As much as they can be, yeah, yeah.
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Because, you know, Wayland looks normal.
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Right.
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Um, and then Two Face has his white hair covering his messed up face.
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:33.519
Right.
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And then, you know, Enigma is wearing all these like his cloaks, and he's got green glasses on, which I think is funny.
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And then Penguin has just got glasses on.
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I know that's the best disguise.
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It's like no one is going to recognize me.
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No one's gonna notice my weird black chin.
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I think I love his design, man.
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I can't get over I can't get over his design because man, like it when you look at him, you feel bad for him because he's not born like that, right?
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:02.960
Right, he's it's not like you know, because anything penguin ever he in the comics or anything, yeah.
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:04.160
He's always had that look.
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:12.720
But this is like we know what he used to look like, and he wasn't like a handsome guy, like you know, skinny young fella, yeah, and now he's just completely deformed.
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:16.319
And every time you look at him, you can't help but think about Bane beating him, you know.
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:21.680
It's just it's just it's it's such a consistently good reminder of like what has happened, right?
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.839
You know, just in just in looking at a character, right?
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:29.440
Because with Harvey, you could like even looking at this panel, you could be like, nothing ever happened to him.
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.839
Even looking at Enigma here, you could almost be like, Well, nothing ever happened.
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:35.680
But yeah, even Whalen, yeah, yeah.
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.039
But but you can't with Oz.
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:38.319
No, Oz, you can't, yeah.
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:42.000
You you you can't like he is the one who got the worst of the of the whole thing.
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.400
Because at least everybody else is able to disguise it.
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.079
It's not worth him disguising it.
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:47.440
And he knows it too.
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:48.640
Yeah, he does, he does.
00:26:48.799 --> 00:27:02.640
Um, so we continue on, we see Bruce leave, we see uh Harvey Bullock, uh, the other police officer, he uh talks to Barbara about how much this meant um and how beautiful her eulogy was for him.
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:08.559
Um and then we see the Robins out of uniform, out of costume, go to Barbara.
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:17.440
And and it's interesting that they have Dick be the one who goes up to her first and talks about how sorry they are for her loss.
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:23.359
And um then there's Jason who is just mad like always.
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.200
Yeah, he's just just the yeah.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:25.680
Yeah.
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:31.039
Uh so I I really wonder what's gonna happen to Jason to make him if he becomes Red Hood.
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:45.599
Dude, what if hypothetical, what if like the the Robins start to stand against Joker, and like of course Jason will be the one to be like, you know, screw you, Joker, like you piece of shit.
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.279
And Joker just like rips him in half or something, like does something really rough to him.
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.480
Like maybe he'll just like bite his face off or something.
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:55.839
That's why he has to wear the helmet or something.
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:58.799
Yeah, like or like, oh dude, can you imagine?
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.119
Like, he just just like literally eats his face off.
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:11.200
Oh my god, and then like literal red hood, like his face is just like constant blood or something like that, like something crazy like something to symbolize what we're gonna see.
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:23.440
I I can't wait, but it's gonna be joke normal joker, like DC Earth One Joker getting a hold of like Dick Grayson is hard enough.
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.759
Like, I can't imagine absolute joker, right?
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:34.319
And and what and yeah, because Earth One Joker shoots, paralyzes, and possibly assaults Barbara Gordon.
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:34.960
Yeah.
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:42.079
Um, and then he just crowbar beats Jason Todd like literally to the brink of death and then blows him up.
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:42.799
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:47.119
So and Jason in the comics stayed dead for a long time.
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:47.920
Yeah.
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.799
So what is African Joker going to do to these people?
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:53.519
Yeah.
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.880
I don't I don't I don't want to know, but I'm sure we'll be there when it happens.
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.160
Fatality.
00:28:58.880 --> 00:28:59.759
Big fatality.
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.319
Joker's hungry and he needs to eat.
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.799
Well, so we see the the Robins interact with Barbara.
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:14.319
Um which actually uh I I think it's uh who's the who's the the youngest or this the short Robin?
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:15.440
Uh Tim.
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:16.240
Tim, yeah.
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:23.440
Tim says, uh, he says, and we want you to know that we're gonna bring Batman to justice, like on your like for your father.
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.640
Like we're gonna bring him to justice.
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:28.000
She's like, oh, so like, you know, you're gonna bring him to justice.
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:29.519
I've seen all the damage y'all been doing.
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:30.880
So is that how you're gonna do it?
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:32.319
Is that is that what you call justice?
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:39.279
You know, like she's you know, confronting them about it, and they're like, hey, well, like we everyone was evacuated, it wasn't that bad.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:46.079
And uh Jason says, like, Batman is a criminal, uh, we're the law, uh, like you, just bigger.
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.200
And she says, Frankly, I'm not so sure what the law is anymore.
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.680
So you can already tell that she's she's starting to want to take things into her own hands.
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:54.160
Right.
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.960
And um, I'm very excited for Absolute Batwoman.
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:57.920
I I very excited.
00:29:58.160 --> 00:29:59.039
It's gonna be really cool to see.
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.240
Yeah, because she looks awesome.
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:01.519
I think her design looks great.
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:03.519
It's it's a cool, very cool design.
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.000
Yeah, and the cover is an homage to issue one.
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:06.240
Right.
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.640
So that's just like, you know, we're getting another character cover.
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.519
I think that's so that I think that's issue 24.
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:14.559
So the next issue is issue 25.
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.839
So that issue 25s are always big issues.
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.680
So I wonder what's gonna happen there.
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:21.519
More Joker, maybe?
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:22.000
Maybe.
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:22.559
I could see that.
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.039
Maybe, maybe I really think they're really gonna build it up.
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.720
They're not gonna, we're not gonna get there very quickly.
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.720
I mean, what we're 21 issues in and dot dot dot dot dot.
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:39.839
And um Well you are if you if you're if you if you've read Absolute Batman 21, you know that this is the issue they meet, which is we're gonna we're very we're very eager to talk about.
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:40.799
We're building up to it.
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:42.400
We're building up to it, yeah.
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:48.640
Uh so we turn and we go to um Bruce's friends leaving the funeral, yeah.
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.160
Uh and they're talking.
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.559
How how are we going to help Bruce?
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.480
That's that's the elephant in the room.
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:55.440
What are we going to do?
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:55.920
Yeah.
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.319
And uh so each one has kind of their own thoughts.
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:05.039
Um or or they're they're not talking about how to help Bruce yet.
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.279
They're talking about did Bruce kill Jim Gordon?
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:07.759
Yeah.
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:08.799
That's what they're talking about.
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:09.200
Right.
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:13.920
And and Harvey's like, well, I could see him being innocent or guilty.
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:16.160
Like, oh, that's that's cool.
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:17.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.880
Um, so they they're they're going back and forth.
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:22.240
Did he actually do this?
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:23.200
Did he not?
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:28.720
Um they're they're playing a game, it looks like, to see who can light the matches on fire.
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.319
Which is their normal little thing.
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.559
Because they did that in the uh issue seven.
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.200
Yeah, issue seven of the because that was when their buddy died.
00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.160
Oh yeah, matches matches Malone died, yeah, yeah.
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:42.880
Yeah.
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:50.000
And um, and it's funny because uh Riddler also tells Wayland, he's like, Didn't you say, Waylon, didn't you say that he's going down like a really dark path?
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.599
And he's like, Yeah, but not not like that.
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.000
Like it's not that's not what like mental, you know.
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:54.559
Right.
00:31:54.799 --> 00:32:05.279
And we see Oz talking about how uh they someone was trying to come kill him, and it shows him with his machine gun uh crutches, which is just so that's so cool.
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.440
That's such a cool take on that.
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.200
I wonder how they came up with that.
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:14.319
Like who who in the office said, what if we make his crutches guns?
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:16.400
What?
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.839
It's just it's just it's all freaking just Scott Snyder.
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.279
He's like, gun crutches, and everybody's like, Yep, yep, I'm sold.
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:24.160
Whatever you want, Scott.
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:25.359
Scott, you know what?
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.480
You just you just do it.
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:27.440
You just do whatever you want.
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:28.720
We'll prove it.
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:40.720
Um so then we Harley uh Harvey is talking about how he followed one of the guys he had prosecuted at one point, and how he was flipping the coin going back and forth.
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:41.680
Is he guilty?
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:42.640
Should he do it?
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:53.200
Um, because he's taking um he had some women that he was taking away, possibly going to murder, like he had Do you know who that is?
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:53.680
No.
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:54.720
That's Victor's ass.
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:56.079
Oh, is it really?
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:04.799
I mean, I mean, I think it is because it says his name is Vic Victor, and he carves he carves up his victims slowly, keeps them alive for days, uh, starting at their feet.
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:05.759
I don't it might not be.
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.680
I'm just like that sounds like Victor's ass.
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:08.480
Victor's ass.
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.359
I just didn't even that didn't even like click with me.
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:12.559
Yeah, absolute Victor's ass.
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:18.319
Then again, as I told you, I was reading this issue the day it came out while rocking our my dog up to sleep.
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:18.799
Yeah.
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:21.039
And so it's like six o'clock in the morning.
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:22.400
So I was reading this.
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:22.960
No, it's okay.
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:23.279
That's okay.
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.200
I I I just read it and I was like, oh, that's cool.
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:26.960
There's a I that looks like that's gotta be Victor.
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:27.599
Victor's ass.
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:28.400
Victor's ass.
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:28.720
Yeah.
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:35.839
But also when he flips the coin, Too Faced will like move his hair over almost like it's like a shade, like a like a window shade.
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.400
Uh, and he's when it's the blue side, it's like, yeah, I'm gonna, you know.
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.000
All I can think about is the Batman animated series.
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:44.480
Yeah.
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:49.119
Like how because of how he has his face there, like where it's the blue.
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:50.880
Because I've not seen Too Faced.
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.039
I've not seen, yeah.
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:53.279
Yeah.
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:54.960
So that's all I can think about.
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:05.920
But then we get um the penguin, and he's talking about how um like the guys we used to be, you might as well bury them in the cemetery next to Gordon.
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.079
Um, I'm not Ozzy anymore, I'm the penguin.
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:09.920
Pretty much saying, like, we're not who we used to be.
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:11.199
And we're never going back.
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:12.239
And we're never going back.
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:13.920
Like, this is who the new us.
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.239
And you know, Wayland's like, that's bull, Ozzy.
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:17.519
Like, do you actually believe that?
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:19.599
Do you actually believe that we're not still who we are?
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:20.800
And he's like, Oh, really?
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:28.159
And he he uses one of his uh guns to lift up the the little necklace, the the stone that Batman got with Wonder Woman.
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:33.360
Yeah, and the second the further away it starts to get from him, he immediately starts transforming into Killer Croc again.
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.119
And I'm like, Oh, that's cool.
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:35.679
It's cool.
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.519
It's like, okay, so Killer Croc is still around.
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:39.760
Like, that's not because I thought that was just kind of like a one-and-done thing.
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.599
And I was a little, I was a little like, oh, that sucks.
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:42.880
Like, I want more killer croc.
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:44.800
Um, so it's very clearly not.
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.960
Really cool to see how, like you said, the further away it gets.
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.559
Like, I mean, it's a necklace.
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.920
And like Oz barely lifts it in front of his face, yeah, and he starts transforming right away.
00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:00.480
Yeah, so that thing has to be touching him, it has to be touching him at all costs, yeah.
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.360
Yeah, so uh and it's and it's crazy.
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.239
He's not fully transformed because he still has it.
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:06.719
Yeah.
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.679
Um, oh dude, the next page.
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.239
We gotta we gotta wait because we gotta finish.
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.960
Anything else you want to say on these pages before we get to the next page?
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:23.760
I think it's really cool that even though like Ozzy's kind of proven him wrong, yeah, um, Waylon is still, you know, he's still like, we are still us.
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.360
Like no matter what, like they can't ta they can't change who we are.
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.559
And Ozzy's just I think out of anybody, Ozzy's is gone.
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:31.920
Ozzy is not who he used to be.
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:32.480
I think so.
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:35.840
But you maybe not think, but you gotta think how broken he is.
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:42.400
Like we were just talking about everything was broken in him and has not and will never heal, heal right.
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:43.039
Yeah.
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.000
So you've got to think what that does to somebody.
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:46.800
Oh, for sure.
00:35:47.039 --> 00:36:00.320
For somebody who who, like you said, was a very handsome, wealthy, powerful guy to have everything because didn't Bane, he broke every single bone in his body without without breaking a single organ.
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:00.639
Yeah.
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.320
Yeah, which is just insane.
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.039
Even his skull, like, I mean, everything.
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.880
Yeah, so that's yeah.
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.800
You you that has to mess with somebody.
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.440
And Harvey, of course, like it like we were just talking about, all these people could live virtually normal lives.
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.079
Oh yeah, except for Ozzie, yeah, yeah.
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.920
Because no matter what, he can't.
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:20.480
Yeah.
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.039
At least everybody else can kind of pretend like they're normal.
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:23.440
Right.
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:24.320
Ozzie can't.
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:24.639
No.
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:24.960
Yeah.
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.239
And you gotta think too, with like Oz, this is something thinking probably way too deep.
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.960
Even Scott Snyder might not have considered this or whatever plan on explaining this.
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:41.360
But like what that does to your body physically, like, you probably can't even go to not to be crude, the bathroom by yourself.
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:42.079
Yeah.
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:43.679
Yeah, you probably can't.
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:47.440
So it it's it he's completely messed up.
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:47.920
Yeah.
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.000
And so I I don't know.
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:50.960
I I think you're right.
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.880
I think if anybody's gone, it's it's Aussie.
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.719
It's Aussie, yeah, unfortunately.
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:58.400
Uh I think he'll have a moment of redemption eventually, but maybe.
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:08.079
I think I think maybe he's gone, but maybe there's still a little bit of him there, and maybe when Batman needs him, he can he can be there for him.
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.519
Um I'm I'm very I'm I really like what Scott's doing with these with these characters.
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:13.760
Yeah.
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.360
Because they're more than just villains.
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.280
Like and you know, like in and these are these are main, these are big Batman villains.
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:19.679
Yeah.
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:28.480
And to see them like at such a like close relationship with with Bruce, and like even as the reader, you care about these characters.
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.199
Like, they're not just villains that's just been misunderstood.
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:35.519
Like, they're people, and they're people who have went through these drastic changes.
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:42.000
And I don't know, you just can't help but like I'm so I'm as interested in their story and what's going on with them as a Batman.
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:42.239
Yes.
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:56.719
You know, and like Scott is doing a really good balancing act with like Batman and them, and then I guess now Batgirl or Batwoman and then and then Joker, you know, on top of that, like all of these characters are so interesting, and we just want more.
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:12.639
And we want to see more because we're now starting to see that you know they're they are not who they used to be, you know, and and they might say they are, but what happens when when like are they gonna fully step over into the dark side or are they gonna stay into the light side?
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.440
Like what you know, are they gonna get the force from Star Wars?
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:16.800
Or like what we what are we doing?
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:20.880
Uh well I remember reading issue one and seeing that they're all friends.
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:29.760
And I was reading it with a friend of mine who who I used to work with, yeah, and he said that's gonna be an emotional moment when they turn.
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.400
And I said, Oh yeah, but I d I never expected this.
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.599
No, no, because they're still they're still kind of there, you know.
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:41.360
Like they've turned, but they're not fully, you know, unless Batman just doesn't let them in, because you know he's still dealing with his stuff.
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:41.679
Yeah.
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.360
So what if they all try to help him and he just refuses and then they fight?
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:45.760
Right.
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:46.880
I don't know, that would suck.
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:47.760
That'd suck really bad.
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:48.400
It would suck.
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:48.880
That's it.
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:50.800
I see it coming, I see that coming down the line.
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:51.519
I do too.
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:56.400
Um and and they're gonna have to kind of put aside their differences for Jack.
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:57.760
Yeah.
00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.920
Uh but it's so good.
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.440
But let's turn the page.
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.239
Here is the main the main thing about this issue.
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.719
This is the best part of the whole issue.
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.599
I'm I'm so excited to talk about this.
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.039
So I'll start out with the first page.
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:11.599
Okay, okay.
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:16.880
Okay, so we see Bruce standing on a steel beam overlooking Gotham.
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:30.320
Uh he is at work, so he's in his hard hat and his uh caution vest and all this, and um one of the foremen yell out, hey Bruce, uh one of the um investors are here to come and talk to you.
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:38.559
And Bruce just kind of waves from his little perch and he's like, and then the foreman's like, ah, engineers, you know, they're always in their head.
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:40.480
Let's just move on, keep going.
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:40.719
Yeah.
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:46.239
So um somebody drops their hard hat and starts walking out.
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.400
And he says, Hello, Bruce, and then I'll let you take it away.
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:51.920
I'm Jack Grimm.
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.519
So nice to finally meet you.
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.880
Oh, and it's and it's like we are finally getting their first meet.
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.480
It's a full page, dude.
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.719
It is a full page reveal of Jack.
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:01.440
And he's normal.
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:04.960
He doesn't, he's not joker, he's not jokered out, you know.
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:11.840
Um it's just the but the fact of him just walking across the beam shows power and confidence.
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:17.039
Not wearing a hard hat like Bruce is, he is full business suit, everything.
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:17.599
Yep.
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:28.159
Um, dude, when I I'm I'm rocking her to sleep and I'm reading this in one hand and I have her in the other, and I literally because I bought it digitally, as you can see.
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:28.559
Yeah.
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.039
Um so I can't see the the next page.
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:31.280
Yeah.
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.559
So I turn and I see it, and I literally go, Yeah.
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.320
And I stop rocking her and everything.
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:37.840
She starts waking up like shh.
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:42.559
My gosh, that's insane.
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:55.519
And and and Bruce just freaking, you! And turns around and just throws like the the hardest, most not pulled back Batman punch ever, and Jack Grimm catches it.
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.039
Don't even like he just kind of leans back and just barely catches it.
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.360
Yeah, just like, oh yeah, it's a little handy.
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.920
Um, and he says, There's no need for all that.
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.119
Let's not make a scene.
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.039
And he says, I know what you are.
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:14.719
And Jack says, Yes, I'm the man who made you, but back then you were just meant to be a funny side project, a footnote.
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.280
But what you've become, I love it.
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:20.559
The truth is, I can't imagine life without you anymore.
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.920
You and me, I want to do this dance forever.
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:33.679
And that is such like it's a nice dip in the classic Joker thing, you know, like it it goes back to like just their relationship.
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:35.840
Like this, we're gonna do this forever.
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:39.519
You know, like you take this page away.
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.599
This is the best, this is the the coolest page ever.
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:46.719
So before we get to that page, that last panel on the page before, Bruce is taller than Jack.
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:47.679
Oh, he's towering him.
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:53.599
So he is looking down at him and Jack is looking up, but Jack is the one making the power moves.
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:53.920
Yeah.
00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:06.000
And so when we turn that page, when we see uh Jack Graham say, I want to do this dance forever, you start seeing this like smile, like almost like Heath Ledger's Joker.
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:10.000
You see some teeth come out of his throat.
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:10.480
Yep.
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.280
Uh, and he's just it's he's just transforming.
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.280
He's got blood coming out of his eyes.
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.079
Yep, these teeth are going crazy, and Bruce says, I'm not afraid of you.
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:34.480
And Joker gets teeth over by his eyes, yeah, and he just in the freakiest comic panel I've ever seen in my entire life, says, Boo! Yeah, and Bruce falls off the ledge, yeah, and Joker's laughing.
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:34.880
Yeah.
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:36.800
And uh he catches Bruce.
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:38.480
Uh-uh.
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.199
You don't get to do that yet, Bruce.
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:45.920
You not until you see Batman reaches full potential.
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:51.280
If you hear one thing I s if you hear one thing I say today, let it be this.
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.920
Batman isn't yours to end, he's mine.
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:58.639
And he's just getting started.
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.079
I think reading that, my heart did not beat at all.
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.840
I was I was like, this was the the part of the book where I was like, oh shit.
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:13.440
I was like, oh my gosh.
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:20.400
And um, it's funny, my buddy Seth, I'm trying to get him into this book, and I've been telling him about it, and he's like, Yeah, that does sound really cool.
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:25.519
And I was talking to my other friend, Nathan, uh, while Seth was there, and I was like, Have you read the new issues?
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:26.400
Like, no, not yet.
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:26.800
What happens?
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:27.920
I was like, Do you want me to spoil it?
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:28.800
And he goes, Yeah, go ahead.
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.239
I went, they meet.
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.119
And Seth was doing something, and he turned and looked at me.
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:34.559
He went, They met.
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:36.159
And I went, they met.
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.480
Not even he's like, he's like, who, and then Nathan's like, Who met?
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:46.639
And and uh like I'm trying to get them into it because I'm like, this is this book is awesome, like it's so good.
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:53.280
But um the that final page when they're talking about like you know, Batman's not yours to end, it's mine.
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:59.519
You see, uh, you see back into Ark M, and it's the uh 246th level uh trans.
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:11.360
Mutation and plac plasticity, and you see these hands coming out of clay molding a head, all of them working together to mold a head, and starts like molding the ears.
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:15.280
Uh, that clayface is forming forming Batman.
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:15.679
Yeah.
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.840
Which is just like, oh crap.
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:24.000
Like we got our first reveal of Clayface as well, which we didn't get to talk about it because that was happening while you were being a dad.
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:24.239
Yes.
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:26.159
And um I love it.
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.079
Well while you were being a dad.
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:28.400
Yeah.
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:29.920
While you were doing dad things.
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:36.880
Um and it got announced that Clayface molds himself with like the hands come out of the ground and mold him, which is so cool.
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:37.039
Yeah.
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.760
And he looks like a like a fine art statue.
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:40.079
Yeah.
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:41.920
Rather than just like a big clay monster.
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:42.159
Right.
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:43.039
I think that's sick.
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:48.960
Whoever touches the clay, I think he's able to make copies of people who touch and interact with it.
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.320
So we've already we know Batman's already interacted with it from Ark M.
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.119
So I'm very excited.
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:56.800
I'm very excited for Clayface.
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.519
And this is a good, this is like good timing.
00:44:59.599 --> 00:44:59.760
Yeah.
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:05.199
Like, you know, usually comic books are very big with like, oh, we gotta do this thing by this time because there's this movie coming out.
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:05.599
Right.
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:07.199
They did this at a really good time.
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:07.440
Yeah.
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.480
Like they just I guess it just worked out because this doesn't seem purposeful.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:11.840
Like I don't think this is on purpose.
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:13.679
I don't think we're gonna get this clayface.
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.480
I because by the time Clayface comes out in what October?
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:16.719
Yeah.
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:17.840
Oh, we'll be done with Clayface.
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:18.719
We'll be done with Spark by then.
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.079
So I'm very excited.
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.480
And we see that Bruce is scared of Joker.
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:26.559
I think he's he's terrified of Joker.
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:28.719
And I I want more of that.
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:33.280
Like I, you know, when we met Scott, we talked to Scott and I was like, when do you think they're gonna meet?
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:34.719
And he's like, they're gonna meet pretty soon.
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:36.239
Like in this arc, they're gonna meet.
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:38.480
And who knew the next issue?
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.400
Wait, that was before 20.
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.440
Yeah, that was before 20.
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:47.840
Yeah, so in two issues, here they are meeting, and it it is like I told my girlfriend about it too.
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.159
I was like, I was like, read I was with Batman.
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:51.679
You do you want to hear what happens?
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.360
That's what I do every time it comes out.
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:54.639
I'm like, So this book came out.
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:56.239
Do you want to you want me to tell you what happens?
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:00.880
And I was like, I tell her that that they met, and uh, she's like, just now?
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:01.920
And I'm like, yeah.
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:04.079
Like they've been building it for like it.
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:05.840
It's just it's so nice, it's exciting.
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:10.639
It's like we're getting another little piece of a cookie, and it's just like you know, you know what I thought about?
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.480
Um, so Joker laughs when he scares Bruce off that edge.
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.960
But remember back in issue one, they say they call him the Joker because he never laughs.
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:19.360
Yeah.
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.440
So I wonder what why.
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:23.760
Yeah.
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.159
You know, it it that I don't think that's an error.
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:27.199
I think that's done in terms of it.
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:27.920
I think it's purposeful.
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:29.119
I think that'll be explained later.
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.599
Well, every time he jokers out, he laughs.
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:32.079
Yes.
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.960
Because every time, like when you first see him.
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:41.119
Except the first time you see him as Joker, he's not laughing because he's covered in the the baby bodies.
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:41.360
Right.
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:45.199
But then you see him in issue 15, and when he jokers out on the island, he's laughing.
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.519
And then and then when he is in the last issue, yes, in the chair, he's laughing.
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:50.639
He's laughing there too.
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:50.880
Yeah.
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.599
So not just be Jack Grimm doesn't laugh.
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:54.400
But Joker.
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:55.280
Joker does.
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:55.760
Yeah.
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:02.480
So um also I sent this page, I sent the page with the freaky transformation to my dad.
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:05.840
And you know, the running theory is that this Joker is like a demon.
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:06.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.800
Uh, and my dad said, I think he's probably more like a vampire.
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:12.960
And I'm like, that could make sense.
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:14.480
And I got to thinking about it.
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.400
Like, that would explain the babies.
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.199
That would explain like the blood or whatever he needs from there.
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.519
Yeah, but he could get he could get blood from anybody.
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:22.800
Why the babies?
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:24.800
And why are they red?
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:25.760
Yeah.
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.239
Because it seems like there's like a there's something there.
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:28.719
I don't know.
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.119
After after experiencing childbirth.
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:32.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:38.960
Uh when a baby comes fresh out of the womb, they are very swollen and uh very discolored is the best way to say it.
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:39.280
Yeah.
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.239
It's a mixture of pinks and reds, and she they're they're just very swollen.
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.159
So he's just a newborn.
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:48.400
Unless they're just straight newborn babies.
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:50.320
That'd be hard to get a hold of.
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:55.519
Well, unless you're the That's why doctors at the hospital just let you leave your baby overnight.
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:56.480
Yeah.
00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:58.800
Some that that's that's crazy.
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.519
We we talked about that uh when you came to visit.
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.440
Uh just how crazy it is that some parents like leave their baby.
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:07.920
Yeah.
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.800
Like because the baby has to be at the if you don't know a a newborn baby has to stay at a hospital for 24 hours.
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:13.119
Right.
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.559
And uh just to make sure everything's okay and make sure all the vitals remain good.
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.440
So if something happens, they can help right there in the moment.
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.320
And um the parents can leave, but the babies cannot.
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.639
So like it's And some people do it.
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:26.800
Some people leave their babies because you had told me that.
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:28.159
I was like, that sounds terrifying.
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.719
Like I would never leave my baby at a hospital without me there.
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.360
Here in Gotham, Jack Graham owns everything.
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:34.719
He could own the hospitals.
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.039
Yeah, he could have access.
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.079
Yeah, you're right.
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:39.039
He could he could have that.
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:39.519
I don't know.
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.639
I think it's a I think it's a uh a stem cell stamp.
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:43.840
Yeah, yeah, that's what I think it is.
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:44.400
It could be.
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:45.280
I don't know.
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.559
I guess we'll we'll see.
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:48.480
Scott, can you tell us?
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.719
You want to come on the show, Scott, and and we can talk about this?
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.440
Because I'm uh we're freaking I'm drooling over this book.
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:56.079
Like I have to read it like over my head because I'm drooling so much.
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:57.840
I don't want to get it on my pages.
00:48:58.079 --> 00:48:59.440
Um this is this is fantastic.
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:00.960
This was a very good issue.
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.960
Um, you know, we're we're starting, we're still building up very slowly.
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:06.559
We're still we're still going.
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:12.320
And something my only complaint with absolute Batman, I do have a small complaint, and it's only just because of the release order.
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:12.880
Okay.
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:18.639
They release one issue and then like two weeks, it's another issue, and then there's like a big gap between that.
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:19.440
Have you noticed that?
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:20.400
I have noticed that.
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:25.440
Two quick two releases close together and then a giant gap, and then two releases and then a giant gap.
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.719
I I I've noticed that.
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:27.039
Yeah.
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:32.960
And my my complaint with absolute Batman is not necessarily the book, but it's like what you have said.
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:37.519
It's um it's the fact that they kind of release.
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:44.639
So they let the book be out for what, like a week, and then they release, hey, then in the next issue we might see Clayface.
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:44.800
Yeah.
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.119
Or two months down the line, we're gonna see Batgirl.
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:47.760
Like, yeah.
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:52.480
Okay, that's that's cool, but and it keeps us hyped for the book.
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:52.800
Yeah.
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.280
But also like you're giving away a little bit, like you're you're not, but you are at the same time, you know.
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:04.639
I think I think it's a thing too where it's like they have to this book is so popular that they have to keep people hooked.
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:04.960
Right.
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.719
And it's like for some people like us, like we we're in, we're fully in.
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.400
And we'll buy it no matter if they show nothing or if they show something or whatever.
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:12.800
Yeah.
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:21.760
Um, because I'm a big fan of like if a book like with Donnie Kate's Venom, I did this, and now with Absolute Batman I'm doing it, I don't open the book until I'm reading it because I don't want to spoil it for myself.
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.679
And um, because you know, I'll accidentally flip to the wrong page and be like, crap.
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.559
Like, I guess they meet, you know, like you know, so yeah.
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:35.119
So I think um they have to do, but I still think there's still a lot of surprises because they're still surprising us pretty well, you know.
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:39.440
But it's a good insight of like we kind of can theorize what's coming.
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:39.840
Right.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.280
It's like a little bit of like a it's a little little breadcrumbs, you know what I mean?
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:49.039
So So speaking of what you were talking about, so absolute Batman 22 comes out in two weeks.
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:49.920
Okay, okay.
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.159
Or three weeks, my bad.
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.760
Okay, and then two weeks, and then three weeks.
00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.280
So exactly what you're talking about.
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:00.320
Yeah, it's yeah, it's weird.
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:00.800
It's weird.
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:01.519
It's weird, yeah.
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:03.440
Um because I I just want it now.
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:04.239
I just want all of them.
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:06.079
Yeah, Scott, can you just drop all of them?
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.760
Like uh from issue now to 100.
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:08.639
Can you go ahead and just drop them?
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:10.000
Yeah, just drop the whole story.
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:11.440
And and I know you've written it.
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:13.519
I want you to have it all drawn and everything.
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.599
Can you just stay up all night and do it all?
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.199
Um, but this is still an on the pool list.
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.159
This is beyond the pool list for me.
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.079
This is still beyond the pool list.
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:31.360
Um I think this is just it's it's a consistently growing book and it's never it it never fails to impress me.
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:31.679
No.
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.719
Every issue shocks me and surprises me, and every issue is just like, oh my gosh, like I cannot wait for the next one.
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:37.440
Yeah, oh yeah.
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.559
You know, so I I it's beyond the pool list for me, too.
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.800
I I I'm not a Batman fan, you know that.
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.119
I've still not watched Robert Pattinson's Batman.
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:46.079
You got to.
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:47.519
They're they're starting to film, they're a new one.
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:47.840
I know.
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:48.800
They just started filming.
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:53.519
It's gonna come out the same, it comes out next year, uh, and it comes out with Superman 2.
00:51:53.599 --> 00:52:03.039
So I probably will because I have a feeling, even though James Gunn says they're not in the same universe, they're not in the same universe, you can say that all day, but you're filming them at the same time.
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.039
I I think they're not.
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.239
Because the the Batman is very on its own.
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:14.719
Yeah, but I could I could see them saying it's they're not, they're not, they're not, and then being like, well, you know what, we changed our mind.
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:15.039
They are.
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:15.360
Yeah.
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.280
They could, they could, they could, it could happen.
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:18.239
It it might not.
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:19.440
I'm not getting my hopes up.
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:27.440
I'm glad that James Gunn is is if this is separate, I'm glad he's leaving it separate because like the Batman is really good.
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:28.719
I really like what they're doing.
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.880
I really like that the story is very different and dark and deep.
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:40.320
And like, I'm I feel like I am getting a little tired of the big universe thing and everything sets up something else, you know.
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:41.440
Just a little bit.
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:57.119
Um, it's nice to just like this is a Batman story, and it's okay if it exists in the same universe, but like, you know, which I guess we could we'll talk about that when we talk about Spider-Man, is that like, for example, using that movie, it's like I wish it felt like a Spider-Man movie that existed in the world.
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:57.840
You know what I mean?
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.519
Like, I wish it didn't have Hulk in it, or it didn't have like other, you know, I don't know.
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:08.480
I just you know So I I think like with Superman, the movie that came out last year, it it is its own self-contained story.
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:10.800
Like they're not trying to build up anything big.
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:17.920
Like, yes, they exist in this universe, but it's not that they uh they're not intentionally setting up something else.
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:18.639
Right, right.
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.039
Um sure the justice gang is in there.
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:22.239
The justice gang.
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:23.840
Yeah, it's it's that what it's called?
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:24.559
That's what they call.
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:25.920
Oh, okay, okay right now.
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:27.440
Uh that makes sense, I guess.
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.360
I think that it has a purpose down the line.
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:29.679
Yeah.
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:33.920
But but it's not I don't think they're building up to anything big yet.
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:40.559
They're not trying to be the MCU because I think they realize they they can't be the MCU in today's day and age.
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:41.199
Right, right.
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:45.199
I think every franchise has kind of realized Star Wars took a while to realize that.
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.119
Not didn't watch Mandalorian and Grogu.
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.199
Probably wait till it comes to Disney Plus.
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:49.440
Yeah.
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:51.280
But you didn't watch all of them all.
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:52.159
I did not.
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:53.119
I need to I need to.
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.920
I Star Wars has just still been a weird thing for me.
00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:58.079
Like it's just, it's I don't know.
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.800
Like, I really liked Mandalorian Mandalorian season one and two.
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.559
I really liked the Clone Wars.
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.199
Um I just Mandalorian season three came out and it was just really bad.
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.920
And it it just it kind of ruined it for me just a little bit.
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:10.400
I don't know.
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.159
I'm just I need to go through and re-watch all the Star Wars that I like again.
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:14.320
Yeah.
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:20.079
So then I could be like, oh yeah, this is good, and then watch Mandalorian Grow Group, and then if I hate it, then I'm like, oh no, this is good.
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:24.159
So with Star Wars, I uh I told you this, but I'll share it on the podcast as well.
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.320
That uh when my daughter was born, the first thing that we watched was Return of the Jedi.
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:29.199
Which is the best one.
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:30.559
My favorite Star Wars movie.
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.719
So I'm holding her, you know, she's only a few hours old at this point.
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:34.960
Yeah.
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.679
And I said, they didn't make any more Star Wars after this.
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:39.039
This is the last one.
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:42.320
Yeah, they stopped after this.
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:44.719
You know, they just came out with the Clone Wars, and then that's all they did.
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:45.280
That was it.
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:45.679
That was it.
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:46.159
Nothing else.
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:47.199
Nothing else.
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:58.639
Uh so moving down to Absolute Batman, we're getting into your book, which is We now return to the Transformers.
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.800
Alright, so Transformers, a book that I am trying to get you to read so hard.
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:03.599
I'm sorry.
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:04.960
I have your trade still.
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:12.239
I need to he let me borrow his trade, and I feel bad because it's been at my house and he got it for his birthday, and I've I've had his birthday gift for months already.
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.840
And I'm like, I hate it when people do this to me, and now I'm doing it to him.
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:16.639
It's okay.
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:18.400
You've been trying to get my wife to read Ultimate.
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:20.480
Yeah, you thought Ultimate Spider Man Ultimate Spider-Man.
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:20.800
You know what?
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:21.440
Then it's fine.
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.280
I've read Ultimate Spider-Man.
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:24.159
My wife hasn't.
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:29.280
Paul is convinced that if she just reads Ultimate Spider-Man, the rest of it, that she will be a comic fan too.
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:30.639
It is the easiest book to get into.
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:32.000
Not the new one, not the one that we hate.
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:33.119
The OG.
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.639
Brian Michael Bendis, Mark Bagley, that one.
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:44.480
And I think if she gets into that, if she gets hooked, like it's gonna, it's and you know, you you'd say I think you said on the last episode that she's like, I don't want to read this is just Spider-Man.
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:45.679
I'm like, you have to keep reading.
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:53.280
She read the first issue of the first volume and was like, it's not bad, but like it's Spider-Man.
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.719
And I'm like, Yes, but you've got to keep reading.
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.280
You get so much better, please.
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.119
Please keep reading, please.
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:05.199
So so at least you read the first issue, so that means you have to at least read the at least.
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:06.400
I know, I know.
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:07.280
I will read the first issue.
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:08.239
I will, I will, I will.
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:09.360
I I've been meaning to.
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:10.960
I've just I've been it's been busy.
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:12.559
I've been you have been busy.
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.119
So Transformers 33 came out last week.
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:20.719
Uh, at the time of this recording, you do know what's happened since Robert Kirkman's took took over because we've talked about it on the show.
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:21.360
Right, right.
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:23.199
Uh so at this point we're picking up.
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:26.559
I actually don't know if I remember talking about issue 32 on the show.
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:27.119
I don't think we're talking about it.
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:27.920
Which one was that one?
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:28.960
Issue 32.
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.760
Yes, I did because we talked about the dialogue problem, didn't we?
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:32.480
I think so.
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:34.159
You'd said that the it was kind of campy.
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:35.039
It was a little campy.
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:35.760
It's a little campy.
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:39.360
Uh because she has the uh star saber.
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:40.480
Yes, I did a movie.
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:41.840
Yeah, yeah, we did talk about that.
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:47.920
Yeah, you now face Alita Prime and she wields the star saber, the ghost of the star saber, the ghost of the starsaber.
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:49.519
Okay, buddy.
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:54.880
Okay, big guy.
00:56:58.480 --> 00:56:59.360
Okay, buddy.
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:06.320
So we pick up where that left off, and Alita and the Autobots are fleeing uh their their battle.
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.400
Uh Alita comes down, she transforms, and she says, Hey, is everybody okay?
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:11.679
Everybody doing all right?
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:19.840
Uh they're like, Yeah, hey, everybody's accounted for except um these two people that I'm not gonna mention because it's big spoilers for you.
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:20.239
Yeah.
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:26.159
Um they are pretty badly damaged, um, but everybody else is good.
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:29.840
So Alita and Ultra Magnus have a moment where they're talking.
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:35.840
Alita's uh kind of tired and she's worn out, and Ultra Magnus says, Hey, what's she still have the sparks?
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.199
She still has the uh matrix of leadership.
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:38.480
The matrix of the leadership, yeah.
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.079
And uh she's like, Yeah, I'm I'm just uh I'm just tired.
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:43.599
Uh I'm really worn out.
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:45.679
So there's something maybe going on there.
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.719
Maybe she's not fully accustomed to like the power of the matrix yet.
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:48.880
Yeah.
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:50.159
It's kind of draining her.
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:50.480
Yeah.
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:51.119
I don't know.
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:52.159
Yeah, we don't know.
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.960
Um Ultra Magnus volunteers to carry her back.
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.519
And then Jazz says, uh, what was that?
00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:58.960
Was that the Matrix?
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:07.840
And Alita says, uh, yes, it's light was small, but still mighty, which is a callback to the previous rider, uh, something that he as an optimist say.
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:08.320
Yeah.
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:12.880
Um, so we see Alita ride back on Ultra Magnus to the base.
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.360
Uh, they start sharing it, they get to the Autobot base, Blue Streak shows up.
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:17.679
Yeah.
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:24.960
We find out that Hot Rod and Springer are here and they have Energy on and they are replenishing the Autobot supplies.
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:25.280
Okay.
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.119
Meanwhile, we jump to Earth.
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:33.519
And we are seeing in Spike's journal, Spike is basically Sam from uh the Michael Bay movies.
00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:34.000
Okay.
00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:37.119
Um, he's giving an update on everything going on with the Autobots.
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.679
Will Jack is in Chicago rebuilding it.
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.559
Uh Carly is here from iCarly.
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:45.280
I know.
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:51.199
Oh, I didn't know that was in the I gotta read this book now.
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.320
Oh, this is big.
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:53.760
It's got iCarly in it.
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.199
Oh my gosh, they're back.
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:57.360
Not that dumb reboot.
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.960
Um, so they we so Spike's giving an update.
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:06.719
Like, hey, this is what this person's doing, this is what we're doing, RC is R Seek Magnus, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:12.960
Uh, we see Optimus, and he's talking about Optimus, and he's saying, like, he's not the same optimist as before.
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:24.559
He's still optimist because he's still a leader, but he's reckless, he is um kind of impulsive, he is spontaneous, he's not as calculated.
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.159
Um, and you see this panel, he he almost looks kind of evil.
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.079
I mean, I think that's just the way the shadows work.
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:30.880
Oh, interesting.
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:32.239
Um, he does, yeah.
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:33.519
Oh gosh, wow.
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:36.400
I I and I don't think they're gonna make Optimus evil or anything.
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.199
Yeah, right, right, right.
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:39.199
But I just think that's just the way things look.
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:44.320
That's done intentionally to show him being different, yeah, and being younger.
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:54.559
And so uh they're rebuilding a bridge, we we continue to go on, and we have um uh Optimus and RC are training.
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.760
RC says, Um, you know, do this, do this, blah blah blah blah blah.
00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:03.119
Yeah, Optimus is training, and he just wants to keep going, keep going, keep going.
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.079
And RC says, Hey, we we've got to cut it for today.
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:07.360
Yeah, this isn't enough.
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:09.519
Yeah, like I've got other people I have to train.
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:15.920
And so basically what the narration says is he's afraid he's not gonna be able to do what he used to.
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.760
And now that he's lost the matrix of leadership, he feels like he's weak.
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:24.320
Um, he has his mission, but he doesn't think he has the means to accomplish anymore.
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:27.039
Uh so that's what we're dealing with throughout this issue.
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.840
Um, Optimus, still though, on the when you turn the page, it looks like a hopeful Optimus.
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.079
So again, it wasn't meant to be evil, I don't think.
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.400
I think it's just it just looked, yeah, it looked a little weird.
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:36.719
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:43.760
Um we see Wheeljack uh get dropped off at a uh shard of Cybertron that has fallen into the Pacific Ocean.
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:44.719
Oh wow, okay.
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.199
Um and how close is Cybertron to Earth?
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:53.039
Um it it's far away, but uh if you read the book, uh Cybertron gets Paul.
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:56.719
If you would actually freaking read the thing, um you would know you would have your question.
01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:58.000
Come on, man.
01:00:58.239 --> 01:00:59.760
But I'll give you a quick summary.
01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:03.679
Cybertron is brought close to Earth at one point, kind of like it is in the third transfer.
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:04.400
Darker the moon.
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:04.960
Yes.
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.960
Um so this part of their planet falls into Earth.
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:09.840
Okay, okay.
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:18.880
Um, and so Cyber uh Willjack jumps off there and he he's looking for something, he's looking for technology.
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:24.559
Um, and as we will get there eventually, he's looking probably to build the Dyno Bots.
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.679
So I think that's they're gonna come into play soon.
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:39.119
Uh Optimus and RC have a moment where um it's very uh kind of sweet because Optimus is saying, like, hey, I have a mission, I just don't feel like I can accomplish it.
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:40.719
Please don't tell anybody else.
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:43.119
Yeah, I I need your help.
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:45.119
And RC says, Yeah, yeah, you'll have it.
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.480
That's that's exactly what you know I'm here for.
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:48.719
Yeah.
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:56.159
And Optimus says, uh, I fear uh literally he says, I fear I have lost the very means of achieving that mission of protecting Earth.
01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:00.239
RC says, Alita Prime, ungrateful zealot.
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:03.679
And Optimus tells her, no, it's wrong to hate her.
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.880
She's doing what she thinks is right, I'm doing what I think is right.
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:13.679
And Alita and RC says, You think you're both somehow right, but what if you're both wrong?
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:14.000
Yeah.
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:20.480
Somebody says that has the same line as like reveal the second transformers, where it's like, ask your people this.
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.280
What if we leave and you're wrong?
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:24.320
Yeah, yeah.
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.440
Uh so that's that's a cool moment.
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:31.039
Uh they have kind of saying you still see Optimus' heart.
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:31.440
Yeah.
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:32.800
He's like, hey, don't hate her.
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.800
Like, we're just two people trying to go about our mission two different ways.
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:41.840
Um we see Willjack fall in, uh, he discovers some sparks.
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:49.280
Uh, we have a moment with um oh gosh, what is there's Cliff Jumper and Shredhead.
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.079
Shredhead is is that uh character's name.
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:52.400
Okay.
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.559
And uh we have a little moment with them.
01:02:54.719 --> 01:03:02.159
It seems like maybe Shredhead has uh some connection to somebody Cliff Jumper used to know, but we don't really know.
01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:12.960
Uh meanwhile, we're back to Megatron in the Nemesis of the Decepticon ship, and their Decepticons are talking like, hey, do you uh you ever seen anything like this before?
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:21.599
Because I told you, if you remember back, Megatron is in like this crystal cocoon like thing right now, as he's getting the matrix of oppression.
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:22.159
Yeah.
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.440
Uh and they're like, no, never seen anything like that before.
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:26.079
That's kind of weird.
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:26.480
Yeah.
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:32.000
And so there's a there's a panel here with Skywarp, and he says, Scrapper, hook, get this mess out of my sight.
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:35.760
And the uh the constructor cons says, Okay, rude?
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:41.280
Uh and then they say, Hey, wait a minute, and I'm gonna spoil this for you.
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:41.599
Okay.
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:43.760
Where's Starscream?
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.119
And and we turn the page, because Starscream is dead.
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:47.599
Yeah.
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:49.440
Um, Megatron kills him.
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:49.920
Okay.
01:03:50.079 --> 01:04:02.800
Uh we turn the page and it's the bottom of the ocean, and you see a hand, and you see it drag itself forward, you see another hand reach out, and it's dragging itself forward until we get basically zombie Starscream.
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:03.440
Whoa.
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:05.360
It's a freaky panel.
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:06.320
That's awesome.
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:07.760
Uh, really cool.
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:09.519
Uh, I'm super excited.
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:11.920
Uh, I don't know what Starscream is gonna do.
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.360
I don't know how this guy's still alive.
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:15.920
Yeah, Megatron blew the crap out of him.
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.679
Oh so again, I have no idea how he's alive.
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:20.239
Yeah, yeah.
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:25.760
Um, but I think he's just gonna add a little bit of chaos to everything that's going on.
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:27.840
Yeah, because you're gonna have That is a sick panel.
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:29.280
That's a really cool panel.
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:30.400
It's a cool panel.
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:32.639
Just dragging himself across the ocean.
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.920
It it's just zombie Starscream because his check engine light came on.
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.480
Like he he has one eye.
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:48.400
Yeah, and his teeth are just so like he's his face is very black and he's got these like yellow teeth, and it's just that that's a really cool panel.
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:57.440
Which dude, I want you to read this because Starscream's always been the oh Lord Megatron, you will never take control of the Scepticons, I'll do it better.
01:04:57.679 --> 01:04:58.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:03.119
You know, uh and in this series, they have made Starscream like terrifying.
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:03.599
Really?
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:05.280
Like, I'll I'll spoil this for you.
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:12.000
First, first issue, um, Starscream snatches a fighter pilot out of the sky and just squishes them.
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:12.960
Oh my gosh.
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:18.079
And just like uh says something along the lines of we're gonna have fun on this planet.
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:19.360
Oh my goodness.
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.920
Yeah, so Starscream is a little bit, yeah.
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:25.519
He's just he's he's he's not the usual Starscream that we know.
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:26.960
Yeah in in this series.
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:33.760
So I I think we're we've got Optimus leading this team, Votobots, we've got Alita leading her team, we've got Megatron getting a power up right now.
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:34.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:38.559
Starscream's just gonna cause everybody's crap to get blown up, you know.
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.840
So uh really good series, still be on the pull list for me.
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.960
Um the dialogue definitely got better this issue.
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.199
Um, there's I really don't have any complaints.
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:48.320
I really enjoyed it.
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:50.320
Much better than than the last issue.
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:50.960
Cool.
01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.840
So uh so I want to talk about Transformers, yeah.
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:54.639
So and I did.
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.079
So I want to talk about real quick uh another series.
01:05:58.239 --> 01:05:59.360
Sorry to hog the mic.
01:05:59.440 --> 01:05:59.840
No, go for it.
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:01.840
Um and that's called Dork.
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:02.800
Dork, yeah.
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:03.360
Dork.
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:04.400
Yeah, D Orc.
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.000
Hey Derek, can I get D Orc, please?
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:08.079
Uh so I'll tell you a little bit about why it's called Dork.
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:12.079
Uh he is half Dwarf and half Orc.
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:12.559
Uh-huh.
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:14.239
So Dork.
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:14.800
Dork.
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:17.840
This is I don't know.
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.400
I'm not going to spend time evaluating the series or anything.
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.679
I just want to tell you about it real quick.
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:21.920
Yeah.
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.440
It is a very fun series.
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:26.559
It is.
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:31.199
I have never laughed so much reading a comic as I have with this.
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:33.119
And let me just show you this real quick.
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:34.320
It's in the very beginning.
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:37.440
Like, dude, I I have I have so much fun reading this.
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:46.000
Um so it it's this half dwarf, half orc, and he has a shield that's just like he just wants to murder everybody.
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:47.599
The shield does or the shield does.
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:48.159
Oh, the shield.
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:48.719
Okay.
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:52.480
Because Dork is just this, like, he has a good heart.
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:52.880
Yeah, yeah.
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:56.079
And everybody thinks he's going to bring about this like doomsday prophecy.
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:56.400
Yeah.
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:58.400
So everybody wants to kill him.
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:00.719
And the shield just wants to like murder everybody.
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:03.920
He's also got a uh a ghost chicken that follows around.
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:04.239
Okay.
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:04.719
With him.
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:05.199
Okay.
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:06.639
He accidentally kills it in the first issue.
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:10.079
So his mission is to put the chicken back together.
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.960
So this is the very first page.
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:19.440
And it's like, but like every good adventure, one thing always leads to another.
01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:26.559
And now Dork runs through the town alone, wet and very naked, currently being chased by the town guard.
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.119
He has found an open shop to hide his dingling.
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:31.920
It's him walking in the store.
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:36.239
That's really good.
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:37.599
I really like that.
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:39.920
So he's found a shop to hide his dingling.
01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:41.920
It is.
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:46.159
I mean, it's just a fun, like it's just a fun, goofy series.
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:47.840
It's just, yeah, and and that's all it is.
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:48.960
I mean, there's the ghost chicken.
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.000
Is it an ongoing or is it like a interesting?
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:55.440
It's just I don't know, man.
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.800
I if you just want something to laugh at, I'll totally let you borrow this.
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:00.239
It's an ongoing, like I said.
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:01.840
So it's only five issues in.
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:02.480
Only five issues.
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:03.679
So yeah, that's not too bad.
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.760
Um it does, it does seem funny.
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.119
I've never I've never laughed as much reading a comic as I have with this.
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:10.320
Who writes it?
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:11.280
Uh Brett Bean.
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:12.000
Brett Bean.
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:14.800
I've never been I don't know anything he's ever done before.
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:16.319
I don't either, I've never heard of him before.
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:18.319
Um but it's incredible.
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:24.880
First issue, um, I think the first issue sold out and was like top ten bestsellers when it came out.
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:25.439
Wow, okay.
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.880
Issue two did the same thing, like completely sold out.
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:29.439
Huh.
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:33.359
And I kept seeing it on Instagram, and I was like, I don't know about that.
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.119
I'll I'll read the first issue.
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.800
I was hooked first issue, because like the first three pages, I'm just busting my head off.
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:39.119
Okay.
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:40.159
Just laughing so much.
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:41.279
I'll check, I'll look into it.
01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:42.640
I think I think I'd like to read it.
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:43.760
That looks that looks funny.
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:44.399
That looks fun.
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:46.800
Finds a place to hide his dingling.
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:51.680
I mean, we're we're 12.
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:52.800
Yeah, yeah, we're we are.
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:53.760
It's fine.
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.000
It's it's comedic though.
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:57.680
It's you know, it's like it's it's clever.
01:08:57.840 --> 01:08:59.520
That's why we got into comics in the first place.
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:00.000
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:01.039
We wanted to escape.
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:02.319
Because we wanted to hide our dingling.
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:10.800
You've never gotten out of the shower and yeah, with my comic in the shower and I just you know, yeah, who needs a towel?
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:12.720
We need absolute Batman number 21.
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.239
You just wrap it around your dingling and then you're gonna.
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:16.960
That's what I use my issue one for.
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:17.760
Oh, what's Mark?
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:20.800
You know, well, I didn't think about that, but I guess my autograph issue will cover it pretty good.
01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:21.920
I think so.
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:26.239
Uh we have a we have a listener I want to mention real quick.
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:26.720
Oh, yeah.
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:30.399
Um, who is uh listen to us, Abdullah, thanks for listening.
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:35.039
Uh he mentioned after you were talking about what you paid for your absolute Batman number one.
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:35.279
Yeah.
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:37.840
And he said, Yeah, yeah, you don't have three.
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:39.279
You I'm jealous of you.
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.720
Good, you you, man, you got the prediction of the future, man.
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:43.359
I I know.
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:44.479
He he knew something was happening.
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:45.600
He knew something was gonna happen.
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.800
Uh he bought three at cover price when they first released.
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:49.439
That's so awesome.
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:50.000
And I asked him.
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:51.359
All cover A's, or did he?
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:52.319
All cover A's.
01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:52.960
Wow, okay.
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:58.239
So I was like, you you either knew this was gonna take off or you're just like, I really like this.
01:09:58.319 --> 01:09:58.720
I want more.
01:09:58.800 --> 01:09:59.760
Yeah, I want three of these.
01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:00.079
Yeah.
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:00.800
It's okay.
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:07.520
I usually I I sometimes when a book comes out and I really like it, I'll get two of them, one to have and one not to touch, you know, just because I like it.
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:07.680
Yeah.
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:10.319
The case, like he he read it and was like, this is really good.
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.399
I want one, just like you said, to keep, to read, to pass down.
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:18.319
If you're listening, I want to let you know you were very lucky.
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:22.960
Because, you know, like I mean actually, this happened to both of us.
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:33.760
Um, the Batman Damned book, when it first came out, we were both working at the comic book store at the time, and Derek, the the the shop worker who still who still works there today, he literally was like, Hey, we got extras.
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:34.960
Do you do you guys want one?
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:37.520
And we were like, nah, it just ain't for me.
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.319
And of course, it's like a$600 book now, and you can't even touch it.
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:41.520
Because the diamond's dangling.
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:49.760
So, like, man, do you and again, that's the thing about comics, is you just don't know, like, you never know when something's gonna pop off like that.
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.119
So, man, um, he he he you sold one, I've right?
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:54.159
Yeah, he did say he sold.
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:55.359
He sold one and he's got two.
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:58.479
Well, yeah, I think he said he wants to meet Scott Snyder to get him to sign the game.
01:10:58.800 --> 01:10:59.199
Do it, man.
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:04.399
He drew a little Batman on mine, it was really cool, and Scott is so great, he's so nice, and he signs it in a good spot too.
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:05.600
Like, it's not like obscure.
01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:09.920
Some some artists will sign covers in like the middle, and it's like, oh, I can't even see Batman's face anymore.
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:10.800
You know, like so.
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:11.680
I've had that before.
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:14.079
So um, but man, that's that's awesome.
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:14.880
Thank you for listening.
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:16.960
Yeah, we we appreciate everybody listening.
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:23.199
Now we we go from fun and you've got to talk about something not so fun, but there may be a silver lining.
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:26.319
So, so I'm not gonna get too much into this.
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:31.359
I know I'm sure people are tired of like, okay, he's talking about Venom again and he hates it, and it sucks.
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:33.119
We get that you don't like Al U.
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:34.159
We get it.
01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.640
We know you've said it over and over again.
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:38.560
So I'm gonna be very quick with this issue.
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:44.880
Um, long story short, um issue 258 of Venom uh tells the story of Peter and MJ.
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:51.920
Uh the book opens with them at Paul's funeral, and it says uh it's I can't remember what the tombstone says.
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:56.239
It says something like dead like for like dead.
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:00.239
This guy's dead.
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:00.960
He he dead.
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:02.640
Yeah, he ain't coming back, we promise.
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:05.520
It says um, rest in peace eternally.
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.319
So I was like, yeah, so I guess he's not coming back.
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.319
Yeah, I guess they're like really doing it.
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:20.560
And um Dylan is doing his normal like thing where he's just like everything's my fault, and I I suck and and and and I'm just gonna run away.
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:30.640
And he does that, you know, because he's mad because he thinks that Dylan or that Paul dying is his fault when it's really not, like it's you know, torment or whatever.
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:32.800
Such a crappy villain.
01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:42.800
Um it's funny because Marvel keeps advertising, they're like the the the epic event of Death Spiral, and then all the Spider-Man's fans are like, this sucked, like this was not good, it was not a good event.
01:12:42.960 --> 01:13:14.479
Um long really, I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna break this down beat by beat, but long story short, Dylan blames himself for Paul's death, and MJ and Peter reunite and they go for a little date walk through the park, and they're walking through the park kind of catching up, and you know, they're like, Oh well, you know, like um MJ goes into kind of some of her trauma with the beginning of the Spider-Man run where she went to this other dimension where she met Paul and she was like, you know, it got to the point, she was telling Peter, she's like, it's all got to the point where I thought you were just dead.
01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:17.039
Like I was hoping you'd come for me, and you never did.
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:27.199
And I just I thought you were dead, you know, like I just figured all hope was lost, and you know, and I met Paul and he was there when I needed him, and you know, and we just built this life together.
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:53.199
And she's like, and it it it's a little redundant just because of the fact, like I don't know if that's the right word to say, but like she the literally the beginning of the series is her trashing on Paul every chance she can, and now she's like sympathetic, and it's just like it I I I understand everybody hates Paul, but I think there was genuine character, there was a there was a good use for his character, like a serious use for his character that they very much missed on.
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:58.079
And once people were just like, I hate Paul, they they were just like, Okay, we're gonna write that into the book where everyone hates Paul.
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:00.479
And I think you could have done more with that, you know.
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:07.199
You either could have made him more hated or you could have made him he's a character, you know, like you could have done a million different things.
01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:08.960
You could have done a lot of things for sure.
01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:34.319
And I think seeing that conversation, it's like that makes me feel like, you know, it makes me feel for MJ a little bit just because like, you know, MJ was gone and you know, Peter was not there, and she had, you know, like when you're in a universe by yourself that's destroyed and you come across like another another person and you're not in a relationship and they're the opposite sex and you you grow closer to them, you're probably gonna be with them.
01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:36.079
Yeah, you know, like it's just it's probably gonna happen.
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:40.800
Because you're lonely and you you need companionship, especially in a destroyed dystopian world.
01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:41.359
Right.
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:49.840
And there's only so long in reality that you could probably hold out knowing that because she was not at the time like in a committed relationship with Peter at the time, anyways.
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:50.479
No.
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:58.479
So there's only so long you can hold out being in an altered dimension, thinking that you know, hey, rescue's going to come.
01:14:58.960 --> 01:14:59.199
Yeah.
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:00.319
And then it never does.
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:00.880
Yeah, yeah.
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:23.359
But um, but we go to um we go to Peter and MJ, they're walking through the park on this little date, and Peter like MJ leans her head on Peter's shoulders and and she's like, you know, but I really wish uh or no, uh Peter's talking about like how um if one person died because what I did or didn't do, I'd blame myself.
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:24.239
I'd never stop.
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:28.560
And then MJ's like, I know, but I really wish you could stop, Tiger.
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:30.560
She she calls him Tiger.
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:31.920
Your face is very sad.
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:39.199
Well, I'm looking at I'm looking at the page that you're like if there is no like panels, like that could be a sweet page.
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:41.920
Like, man, wow, Peter and MJ in the park.
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:43.119
That's what we've wanted for.
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:44.880
Oh, wait a minute, I'm reading the dialogue.
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:48.079
Yeah, I I couldn't help but like I was really I was like, are they holding hands?
01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:49.279
Are they like are they holding hands?
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:56.479
Are they like is it like my my brain was like, oh, oh, oh, like it was the neurons were slowly activating, and I was like, nope, it's not gonna be that way.
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:58.159
Like they're gonna they're gonna cuck us.
01:15:58.319 --> 01:15:59.439
Like, you know, they're gonna do it.
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:03.279
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I can't, like I'm not I'm not falling for it.
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:18.239
And um, you know, MJ goes into that with about herself and and and they hug, you know, they have uh there's this little monologue, MJ says, she says, Um, I was safe in my own world, thanks to you, but my nerves were jumping uh every 10 seconds.
01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:20.880
Paul was the only person who'd been there.
01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:28.880
Uh and even and even then we didn't work without an apocalypse, uh, without an apocalypse to focus on.
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:34.159
So we're uh we stuck together for our kids, the kids who died who never existed.
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:38.960
And all that pain was coiled up inside me, ready to explode on a hair trigger.
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:46.640
I feel like sometimes uh you you got both barrels and you didn't deserve that, uh, Peter, you were hurting too.
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:59.600
So she's like, I'm she's kind of relating herself to Peter because she's like, I know what you feel like, you know, and you know, and uh you know, it seems it seems like they're they're talking like, you know, hey, this is the beginning of our friendship.
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:00.800
Let's bring our friendship back.
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:07.279
Like we can we can start being friends again, which could possibly lead to more, but we we should start as being friends again.
01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:08.479
And they're both happy about that.
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:09.600
They're like, Yeah, that's that's good.
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:21.760
And and they're flirting, they're hugging, you know, she's leaning her head on his shoulder, he's touching her shoulder, like it very, you know, they're they're you know, the the Spider-Man editorial theme is dangling those keys in front of us again.
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:31.439
And um finally we get Peter being like, you know, uh, but uh we gotta talk about something.
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.119
And he's like, I gotta talk about your friend.
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:34.720
Talking about the symbiote.
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.680
And he's like, you know, let me let me have a talk.
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.479
He says, he says, I need to have a one-on-one with your roommate.
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:44.319
So they go in, they go behind a tree and he puts his mask on.
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:45.039
That's so sweet.
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:53.920
Because he's like, Well, I I have if someone sees me talking to Venom as a person, they're gonna just know that I'm Spider-Man, so I have to put my mask on, even though I still have my person clothes on too.
01:17:54.159 --> 01:18:01.840
And he's wanting to talk to the symbiote without MJ there, but MJ being bonded with the symbiote means that she's gonna hear everything anyway.
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:04.000
I mean, so it's kind of yeah.
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:09.520
I the only Venom I've ever read is Donnie Case's, but I know that that is so dumb.
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:13.359
Yeah, it's it's yeah, and um the art's great.
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:28.960
But they're talking, and you know, Peter talks to Venom and he's like, so I need to know, like or he's he asks if MJ is listening, and Venom says, Uh, we can have private conversations if we want to.
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.000
So uh what don't you want her to hear, Mr.
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:32.640
Best Friend?
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:35.920
Like he's jealous of Peter talking to MJ.
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:38.880
And Peter says, Torment, he fell off the roof, right?
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:43.439
Why do I feel like that's that's fell in quotes?
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.560
And Venom says, We tried to grab him, couldn't quite reach.
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.119
Um, too bad, so sad, the end.
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:53.439
And Peter goes, You the the stretchy arm, Venom, couldn't quite reach.
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.119
You didn't think to shoot a web.
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.960
And this is this really pissed me off when I read this.
01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:03.039
Venom says, Well, you know how it is, Spidey.
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:04.800
We didn't want to pull the Gwen Stacy.
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:09.199
And it's like, I'm not gonna get mad.
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:11.119
What are you guys doing?
01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:12.479
Why are we doing this?
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:13.520
What is the point?
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:18.720
That's why would MJ Venom has never acknowledged that.
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:20.479
Like, I'm sure he knows about it.
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:24.720
I'm sure the symbiote knows about that, but Venom has never put one on one.
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:26.960
And it's like, is that MJ?
01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:28.239
Is that Venom?
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:30.479
That is something that would never be said.
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:32.239
No, that's too far.
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:33.680
That's way too far.
01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:42.880
And uh Spider-Man throws up hunch, Venom catches it, and he just says, like, he fell, and now a lot of people are safe.
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:44.399
So, like, what do you want to do about it?
01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:49.600
And Peter's like, MJ wouldn't do it, and even if she wanted to, but you, you are the lethal protector.
01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:51.760
Did you slow her down, make her hesitate?
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.119
Like, he's blaming the symbiote for torment dying, you know.
01:19:55.279 --> 01:20:00.000
Which honestly, like this goes back to that thing where it's becoming a nothing thing, you know.
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:06.560
Like you you literally said it's gonna be a big nothing thing, and it's like that had potential because it's like, what if it it was MJ that made that choice?
01:20:06.720 --> 01:20:08.960
Right, like it should have been MJ that made that choice.
01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:12.159
Yeah, like Venom should be like, that was that was her choice.
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:14.479
That wasn't me, you know.
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:18.319
And Venom's kind of covering and he he leaves.
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:20.800
So he he's he leaves and swings away.
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:29.680
And uh MJ and Venom are talking back and forth, and um Venom's like, or MJ's like, you know, nice white lie you told him.
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:34.319
Uh no such thing as private conversations while you're around, and then Venom's like, don't you start?
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:37.199
Uh and then she says that Gwen crack was low.
01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:38.960
Uh Venom, she was my friend.
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:45.600
I know, but if I'm and and Venom's the reason he made that was he's like, I'm I want to look like the bad guy, so he's mad at me, not you.
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.560
And it's it's it's it's layers of confusion.
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:54.880
It's like skip the mental gymnastics on this because like it it's it's dumb.
01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:56.479
It just it's a lot, it's it's stupid.
01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:08.960
But long story short, they go back to the apartment and MJ is like, well, Venom, since we're friends now and we're cool, and which I don't know how that makes sense, like we should let the bond fully take place.
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:11.359
We should you should fully bond with me.
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:20.640
And they fully bond, making the new Venom MJ look, which is she's she's got her red hair coming off the back of her head.
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:29.199
She looks feminine, the symbiote looks feminine rather than masculine, as as it has looked, and she's got gold high heels uh that go all the way up to her knees.
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:45.039
And then we get a knock at the door, and uh MJ runs to the door to see who it is, and it's it's my boy Captain Alliance from the 250 issue, and he is uh like I need your help to save the universe, and then it's to be continued.
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:50.000
I've said it before, I've said it a billion times, I can't say it enough.
01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:51.840
This is just what what are we doing?
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:53.600
You know, whatever, blah blah blah.
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:54.960
This book sucks, blah, blah, blah.
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:56.479
I'm still picking it up, blah, blah, blah.
01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:57.920
I'm part of the problem, blah, blah, blah.
01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:04.880
So you know, if uh you know wipes are expensive for daughters.
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:07.520
If you want to let me borrow that issue.
01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:08.640
Yeah, here.
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:09.039
You know what?
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:09.680
I have two of them.
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:10.800
You want the other one too?
01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:14.079
Um, I got the the magic cover because the magic cover did look cool.
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:15.359
But I I will go into this.
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.359
I do want to share this bit of news.
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:24.000
Um, following this issue, we did get some inside look from Marvel about uh Queen in Black.
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:24.239
Okay.
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:25.520
That's coming out pretty soon.
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:27.119
Actually, really soon, I think.
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:31.760
Um and uh this is giving oh, I don't know if I can actually pull it up.
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:32.560
A poo.
01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:50.079
Long story short, we uh Marvel has said on their website that uh there is going to be a big decision made during Queen in Black where MJ has to either choose to save the Marvel universe or continue to be a symbiote hero.
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:51.840
Or something like that.
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:52.239
Okay.
01:22:52.399 --> 01:23:00.079
And Eddie Brock is also going to be faced with a choice on uh if he really wants to be bonded back or wants to go back to being a symbiote hero as well.
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:10.079
So it kind of sounds like we're starting to put the pieces back together, putting the pieces in place to set up the end of this series and put everything back to normal in the next series.
01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:17.840
Because if you don't know Eddie Brock's still in prison, I think he'll be there until the Venom Unleashed book comes out with King in Black or whatever, Queen in Black.
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:21.920
Um I'm I'm ready for this to be over.
01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:23.520
That's all that's all I can say about it.
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:24.319
I've said everything.
01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:24.960
Oh, thank you.
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:26.159
Oh, we have it right here.
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.520
So um Clayton pulled it up because I don't have good internet here.
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:46.239
Um the the article from Marvel.com uh says the newly revealed issues spotlight the long-awaited a long-awaited emergence of Venom World in Clean Queen in Black number four and five, a starting, a startling development of tease since the early days of Ewing's mind-bending run.
01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:58.079
As Earth is consumed by symbiotes, current Venom host Mary Jane Watson is forced to make a desperate choice, one that will shape both the fate of the Marvel universe and her future as a symbiote hero in Venom number 262.
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:09.600
Meanwhile, Eddie Brock faces his own pivotal decision that redefines his role as a symbiote host in Queen in Black Venom and Chain number three, and both new defender squads unite for blah blah blah.
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:10.560
It's a tie in stuff.
01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:10.800
Okay.
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:18.560
Um, so it for bringing Venom World back, why that was a really dumb concept from his first run.
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:27.279
It was the whole deal with like, oh, if the symbiote bonds with Dylan, then Venom World is gonna happen, which is literally just Earth with a Venom Venom eyes and a mouth.
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.399
It's literally just ego if he was Venom on Earth.
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:34.560
Or if the symbiote bonded with Eddie Brock, he would become his own version of Null.
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:36.000
Those were the two outcomes.
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:40.960
So we're still getting that because MJ's bonded with the symbiote.
01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:43.119
And I guess right, it makes perfect sense.
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:43.760
Yeah, it makes sense.
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:47.760
And you know, um, whatever.
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:49.279
I have nothing to say.
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:56.239
I'm I'm like, I I'm still keeping my promise that if Al Ewing is still on this book by the end of Queen and Black, I'm done pulling it.
01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:57.439
I'm hopping off the book.
01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:59.520
Um, I'm just I'm not enjoying this anymore.
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:03.600
It's it's getting kind of old and the like you know, yeah.
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:12.000
I've seen Carlos Gomez, the artist, I've seen him make posts even like celebrating when Paul dies and stuff like that.
01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:14.880
It feels like the artist doesn't even really enjoy it.
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:18.239
It feels like everyone on this book is just doing whatever.
01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:22.399
Like there is no, it's just like we've got to put the pieces in place to make this happen.
01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:30.560
Like Captain Alliance, he has nothing to do with Spider-Man or Venom or any like you could have pulled what bring sleeper back.
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:36.800
Yeah, bring a character that's more symbiote related back, and you've got like this whole thing with like they're not fully bonded.
01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.920
Like, first of all, when did they become friends, the symbiote and venom?
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.720
Because they never actually stated like oh we're friends now.
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:47.920
Like they like they're just they just decided they're just deciding that just so she can get another new look.
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:55.119
This is her what like Venom has gone through what it had its all new Venom look with the gold spider, okay.
01:25:55.279 --> 01:26:01.279
Then Venom got a new look in um making itself look like Spider-Man.
01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:05.920
Yes, yeah, yeah, and then it went back to this and now it's making itself look like MJ.
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.399
Why are we going back and forth with this new look thing?
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.520
Like we're why are we changing the look every freaking other issue?
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.479
He seems to me like they just have no idea what they want to do.
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:16.479
It just feels like it's just again.
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:18.159
This is every episode.
01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:19.119
I'm sorry.
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:21.039
I'm trying to be better about that.
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:21.920
Every episode.
01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:23.600
Every episode that I talk about Venom.
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:27.520
Paul has FOMO, Venom sucks.
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:29.439
Absolutely Batman's great.
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:31.359
Paul has FOMO, Venom sucks.
01:26:32.079 --> 01:26:34.319
Like, I hate the book, but I'm still gonna keep buying.
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:37.119
I just, I just I want to stick through it, man.
01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:40.079
Like, I I get I understand that it's time to be like it.
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:42.079
Like if I don't like it, I should put hop off of it.
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:43.359
I just want to stick through it.
01:26:43.439 --> 01:26:50.159
Because if it if it really ends, you know, if it does end soon, then it's like, hey, I made it through the the the dark, evil, dark tunnel.
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:55.119
Yeah, I don't know, but I'm I'm very close to to hopping off of I'm hop close after this issue.
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:56.960
I was like, yeah, I'm honestly pretty done.
01:26:57.119 --> 01:26:59.840
Because it's like it's they're they're teasing us with Venom and MJ.
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:05.680
Or not Venom and MJ, sorry, they're teasing us with Peter and MJ again, and it's like I'm not falling for it.
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:06.000
Right.
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.880
Like it's honestly like I'm just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever.
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:13.119
Like it's almost like I'm starting to not want them to be together because it's just like it's not gonna happen.
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:14.479
So you're just teasing us.
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:16.720
So it's like, you know, whatever.
01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:18.640
That's Venom 258.
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:19.439
It sucks.
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:20.800
Don't don't buy this book.
01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:22.000
I didn't plan on it.
01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:24.239
I'm buying it so you don't have to.
01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:26.159
That's the title of every episode.
01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:28.159
I'm buying this book so you don't have to.
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:29.279
It's my excuse.
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:37.039
And it sucks because like um I'll I'll say this is just a little like this is a little um this I'm not gonna talk about it anymore.
01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:38.640
No, no, no, no, no, one more thing.
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:42.640
No, the the uh this sucks because like I this is a little embarrassing.
01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:55.199
When it's like really it we it uh here where we live, it it came a really crazy storm yesterday, and I love stormy days because it reminds me of Venom, Donnie Kate's run, because every issue was just like it was like daytime but stormy, so it was like dark.
01:27:55.279 --> 01:27:55.600
Right.
01:27:55.840 --> 01:28:03.600
And it was storming, and I was driving to do my other show, and while I was on my way, I was like, I miss Donnie Kate's Venom.
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:05.199
And like I'm wanting to read it again.
01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:07.039
And it's like, I miss it.
01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:08.000
I miss it so much.
01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:09.119
I miss good Venom.
01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:11.600
Like I miss classic Venom and Eddie Brock Venom.
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:14.159
And like, so it just, I don't know.
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:15.359
He's my favorite character.
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:22.399
And you know, going through reading that amazing run that was Donnie Kate's run, it's just so hard to believe that we are where we are now.
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.199
You start you start driving, you hear.
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:27.760
No!
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:29.039
No!
01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:35.039
Actually, I think about um what's the song?
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:37.600
Uh Everything in Its Right Place by Radiohead.
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:40.640
That song is the embodiment of Donnie Kate's Venom run.
01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:42.079
I cannot change my mind.
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:44.720
Like, um, so I think I'm gonna reread that run again, actually.
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:46.720
You know, you know, you know, it's so funny.
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.760
I I honestly think you reread that run every year.
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:51.920
I think I read it like once or twice a year.
01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:52.159
Yeah.
01:28:52.479 --> 01:29:04.000
Because two years ago when when we had, or last it was last year when me and my wife uh we had our bachelor party and uh and you were there and you had your venom bus.
01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:12.800
Yep, and while it was like two o'clock in the morning and we're all like super tired, I would just hear zzz and you pull out your venomus and you just start reading it.
01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:14.079
It's so good.
01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:14.960
It's so good.
01:29:15.119 --> 01:29:17.840
It's it's just it's like I gotta get my few pages in today.
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:25.279
Venom Rex and then like Absolute Carnage and then King in Black are just the three best, like like it's just such a vibe.
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:30.319
Like it's so like I was in New York, I was low-key when me and Elise went to New York last year.
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:36.960
Um, it started to come a big storm, and we were in Times Square, and it felt like that first issue of Absolute Carnage.
01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:40.159
I was like, I was like, Elise, we're literally in Absolute Carnage right now.
01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:41.279
This is like the best thing in the world.
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.840
Like, I was literally like, like, there's the dragon!
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:45.600
Oh, take my picture.
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:47.840
It's like null's null standing behind me.
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:49.279
Guys, look, null's here.
01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:51.439
Symbiotes are literally invading me.
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:56.159
Just like some like a symbiote with a spiral on its head, it's like about to kill me.
01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:57.680
And I'm just like, look at this.
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:02.319
So uh on a totally random and unrelated note.
01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:06.319
Um this is this is very random.
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:09.680
We're sitting here talking, and my chair just broke.
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:14.399
I saw you move it.
01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:15.680
Oh my god.
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:19.039
Just came off this chair.
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:21.279
So, so what I'm hearing is this book is so bad.
01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:24.880
So, wait, Donnie Kate's book is so good that you literally you broke your chair out of the time.
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:26.159
I broke my chair out of the excitement.
01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:26.880
Yeah, literally.
01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:31.600
So we we need to just read that again and do a page-by-page review for the next two years.
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:34.079
Where did we where did he get that chair from?
01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:39.760
Um so yeah, that's Venom 258.
01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:40.720
Uh what it yeah.
01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:42.319
It was so bad it broke the chair.
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:43.680
It's so bad it broke the chair.
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:44.239
Yeah.
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.640
Um, so we got to talk about Swamp Thing.
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:46.880
Yep.
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:47.359
Real quick.
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:47.760
Yep.
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.640
Uh again, one of our listeners asked us to talk about it.
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:51.039
Yep.
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:52.560
Um, I read it when it came out.
01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:53.119
You.
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:53.840
I forgot.
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:54.319
Mr.
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:54.720
Slacker.
01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:55.439
I'm Slacker.
01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:55.920
It's okay.
01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:56.239
It's okay.
01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:57.119
I'm Slacker.
01:30:57.279 --> 01:30:57.600
I'm sorry.
01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.800
I actually did an episode on it for the Isaiah 43 podcast.
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:01.600
Oh, okay.
01:31:01.840 --> 01:31:04.960
Um so I talked about a little bit about what happens there.
01:31:05.039 --> 01:31:08.079
I recapped the issue in that, um, which was totally different.
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:13.840
So if you normally listen to like my preaching, and then all of a sudden, like, here's a comic review and and everything.
01:31:13.920 --> 01:31:14.960
So that was a little bit different.
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:16.000
It's a good one to do.
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:16.640
It's a good one.
01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:17.359
Your other podcast.
01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:24.000
So Swamp Thing 1989, uh, just to recap real quick, is that it's a Swamp Thing issue from the 80s, yeah.
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:29.039
That DC totally scrapped and cancelled because they were afraid of religious backlash.
01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:31.920
Uh it made the writer so mad he quit the run.
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:32.399
Wow.
01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:33.600
He just quit DC.
01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:34.399
Wow.
01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:35.359
Oh my goodness.
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:39.600
Because he was like, hey, no, there's not going to be any backlash for this.
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:40.399
It's good.
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:40.800
Yeah.
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:46.479
And they're like, no, they destroyed every issue, um, but they've decided to republish it now.
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:48.640
I guess they're not afraid of the backlash or whatever.
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.279
Swamp thing's just so popular that they decide they had to bring it back.
01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:53.680
That's crazy that they did it like in today's time.
01:31:53.920 --> 01:32:03.680
Because I feel like today it's a it honestly feels not that it's controversial, but it feels like people avoid stuff like that more nowadays than they did in the 80s.
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:04.000
Right.
01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:04.640
You know what I mean?
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:06.640
So it's like you said it was supposed to come out in the 80s.
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:07.600
1989, yeah.
01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:07.920
Yeah.
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:10.560
So like it's a little weird that now they're publishing it.
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:11.119
I mean it's great.
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:14.000
I mean, I I think I think that they should do more stuff like this more often.
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.760
I think this kind of stuff is really great.
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:16.079
Yeah.
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:17.039
You know, it's different.
01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:20.000
So it it it's good and it's bad at the same time.
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:20.399
Yeah.
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:29.920
Uh and without fully recapping the issue here, um, essentially Swamp Thing is going back in time and he goes back and he sees Jesus.
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:30.399
Yeah.
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:34.159
Well, we also see at the same time a lot of demonic things.
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:37.760
They make the it's really it's really dumb.
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:51.039
They make the three wise men like servants of a demon, and they they pray to this they sacrifice to this demon, uh asking the demon to destroy Jesus because he is good and he's going to undo everything that they have done.
01:32:51.119 --> 01:33:01.119
And the demon possesses a servant of the high priest who's sleeping with Mary Magdalene, which again we have it's just it's very uh unbiblical and not historically accurate.
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:01.600
Yeah.
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:06.880
Um so again, I I review that in the podcast, talking about that, why that might be and stuff.
01:33:07.039 --> 01:33:11.920
Um, but the the main crux, the main focus of this issue is Swamp Thing sees Jesus.
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:17.920
Uh he sees Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane when he's praying.
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:21.920
And my biggest problem is this book is heretical.
01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:22.239
Yeah.
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:27.359
And I know you have a uh a fun experience with heresy.
01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:29.760
Yeah, I do have a fun experience with heresy.
01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:31.119
Um and it's not Halo.
01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:32.079
It's not Halo.
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:32.960
Heretic.
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:34.399
Arbiter.
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:42.399
So so this issue actually deals with a heresy.
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:42.720
Yeah.
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.520
Um, and that heresy is called Gnosticism.
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:55.359
It's a it's a uh a heresy that the church has condemned um since the very, very kind of beginning, the early uh 100s and 200s uh AD.
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.000
And really Gnosticism is built on two things.
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:04.239
It's built on the fact that the material world is evil and that the everything spiritual is absolutely good.
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:10.880
So the material bad, physical, uh physical bad, uh, and the spiritual instantly great.
01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:17.680
They also believe the other tenet of Gnosticism is that you achieve salvation through hidden secret knowledge.
01:34:18.560 --> 01:34:22.159
Okay, so with that in mind, we go into Swamp Thing 1989.
01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:30.079
We see Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, and Swamp Thing calls him an adept and a magician at one point.
01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:42.159
And and an adept and all that is certain language to indicate that Jesus is only perceived as God because he has a higher level of knowledge and understanding.
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:42.560
Right.
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:50.319
So and that's what Gnostics believe that Jesus um was not actually God incarnate, God who took on flesh.
01:34:50.640 --> 01:35:00.399
He was instead um somebody who just unlocked his highest potential because he knew the secrets and he knew this forbidden knowledge that no one else knew.
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.840
Uh, and that we can achieve that too through yada yada yada.
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:04.640
Right, right, right.
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:04.880
Okay.
01:35:05.279 --> 01:35:06.159
Well, that's a heresy.
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:07.680
So this book is Gnostic heresy.
01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:08.000
Yeah.
01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:10.960
So it is kind of garbage for that.
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:11.199
Yeah.
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:15.199
Because and this is something I mentioned to you when we first initially start talking about it.
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.319
Like a lot of people are celebrating this because of the good that this book does.
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:18.800
Right.
01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:21.439
And this book does do a great thing.
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:34.319
Uh, and it's and and the book ends with a swamp thing traveling the multiverse, and he sees the thing that holds the entire multiverse, not just the universe, not just planets, not just whatever.
01:35:34.560 --> 01:35:38.479
The entire multiverse who sustains all things is Jesus Christ.
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:38.800
Yeah.
01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:39.920
And that's that's awesome.
01:35:40.479 --> 01:35:42.079
That is something we would never see.
01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:43.920
Uh I thought in a college ever.
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:44.159
Yeah.
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:47.600
That the thing that holds everything together is true in our our reality.
01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:48.399
What do you think?
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:49.920
He's looking at the absolute universe.
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:52.640
Uh, I don't touch that one.
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:54.159
That one's scary.
01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:56.560
To purgatory with you.
01:35:57.039 --> 01:35:59.680
We'll just put that one on the very end of the multiverse.
01:35:59.920 --> 01:36:00.960
We'll just put it out there.
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:04.640
Um, again, I talk about this in in the Isaiah 43 podcast.
01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:08.880
I it's even titled Swamp Thing in the Christ who holds all things together is the title episode.
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:16.319
And I talk about the Bible verses that actually support the fact that uh even Christ by his power is able to hold all things together.
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:17.840
So I I talk about all that.
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:19.920
Um again, not gonna rehash that.
01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:30.319
But the my problem with this issue is how much can we say this is a really good issue, this is a glorifying issue, this is a great thing to celebrate if we're getting our Lord wrong.
01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:34.000
If we're saying he's something that he's not, but he actually is this one thing.
01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:40.880
So we're saying he's he's unlocked he's achieved salvation for all people through this secret forbidden knowledge, yeah.
01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:43.039
And he's the one who sustains all things.
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:44.720
Well, that that doesn't make sense.
01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:46.399
Um that's a heresy.
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:49.119
Um you're you're so that's what I'm saying.
01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:53.359
Like, can we say this is a really good issue, even though we get the character wrong?
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:54.960
Think of it like Venom, right?
01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:55.680
Right, right.
01:36:55.840 --> 01:37:02.239
Um you get at the end, maybe you get the cool moment, yeah, you know, but it gets the total character wrong.
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:02.800
Yeah.
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:08.720
Uh Venom, of course, is much, much lesser than Christ, but um, that's just the other comparison I have.
01:37:09.439 --> 01:37:13.119
I you know, I'm trying to think about it.
01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:17.520
I think it's exciting to have God in a comic.
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:18.000
Yeah, it is.
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:21.439
Especially something like Swamping, you know, where it's a very nature-driven comic.
01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:38.000
I think I I like there are things about it that I like, you know, it does show the crucifixion and it shows, you know, you actually mentioned when I was looking at it earlier, you're like, hey, it actually got it right because a lot of people say that he got crucified through his hands, but in reality he got through his wrists because that's the only way it would actually hold his weight.
01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:41.920
So, you know, I think I would like to see God.
01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:47.039
I I would like it to be more like I one of my favorite uh Spider-Man runs is uh J.
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:48.000
Michael Stra is J.
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:48.880
Michael Strazyski.
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:54.399
Um his run where uh there's a few moments, it's where he fights what's the dude's name?
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:56.960
Um Is it Ezekiel?
01:37:57.199 --> 01:37:57.760
Is it Ezekiel?
01:37:58.079 --> 01:37:59.039
Ezekiel's in the book.
01:37:59.199 --> 01:37:59.359
Yeah.
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:01.039
Um I think of uh what's this?
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:02.720
It's the it's the other bad guy.
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:04.000
Anyway, um Morlin.
01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:05.279
No, not Morelin.
01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:06.720
No, Moreland's the vampire.
01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:08.880
Um Morbius is the vampire.
01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:16.399
Yeah, but Morlin is the vampire who's in um the Spider-Verse comic, the first Spider-Verse comic, because he has a family.
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:17.520
I think that's him.
01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:18.079
Is it?
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:18.800
I want to say it is.
01:38:19.039 --> 01:38:19.520
Okay, it might be.
01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:20.239
It might maybe not.
01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:20.640
I don't know.
01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:23.439
But like Because that's the run with Digger in it, right?
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.680
Where he's the gangster and all of his body.
01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:28.079
J.
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:31.119
Michael's getting early 2000s, Spider-Man, right?
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:31.840
That's what we're talking about.
01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:32.319
Yeah.
01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:32.479
Okay.
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:32.800
Yeah.
01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:33.760
That's a fantastic run.
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:34.640
It's a very good run.
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:37.279
And there's a few moments where he's like, he talks to God in the book.
01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:39.439
I I wish we'd have a lot more of that in comics.
01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:40.319
You know what I mean?
01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:45.840
And if like I guess books don't have to do the like they don't have to like it.
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:50.399
It's cool to see like Swamp Thing being like, oh, it's you know, like Jesus is the center of the multiverse.
01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:50.640
Right.
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:55.039
Um, and I think stuff like that being sh like oh be people being aware of that is cool.
01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:55.439
Right.
01:38:55.600 --> 01:39:02.880
Um, but the them getting things wrong is is kind of unf it's it sucks because it's like, oh that you know, like you're so close.
01:39:03.039 --> 01:39:04.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:06.479
Um I the art's great.
01:39:07.359 --> 01:39:15.600
I think I think it being a like I wonder what this would have I wonder what people would have reacted to it when it if it did come out in 89.
01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:16.800
I do I do too.
01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:20.000
Um because you gotta think about what the culture was like in 1989.
01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:25.039
Um we were in the middle uh we're well, I guess we're towards the end of the satanic panic.
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:25.359
Yeah.
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:26.319
Uh are you familiar with that?
01:39:26.479 --> 01:39:26.800
Yes, yeah.
01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:27.039
Okay.
01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:33.920
So uh you know, evangel uh uh uh evangelists um had a really bad habit in the 80s of calling everything demonic.
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:36.640
Yeah um He-Man was called demonic.
01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:39.439
Um a lot of things were called demonic.
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:39.840
Yeah.
01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:42.239
Um so uh the Dungeons and Dragons.
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:44.399
Dungeons and Dragons were the people demonic.
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:51.680
Um so a lot of things were called demonic that I I I I don't think really were.
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:52.319
Right.
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:54.479
There are demons in this.
01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:58.960
They do twist the story of scripture to make the three wise men servants of a demon.
01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:13.520
They do make Mary Magdalene uh a prostitute, they do make this servant of the high priest who gets his ear caught off and historic and scripturally we call him Malchus, um he is possessed by this demon.
01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:15.760
And Jesus defeats this demon.
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:19.199
Um but so there are demons.
01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:27.760
So I I think if this came out in 1989, this would have just been probably what happened in the comics in the 50s all over again.
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:28.079
Yeah.
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:30.640
Are you familiar with what happened with the comics in the 50s?
01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:39.439
Uh the seduction of the innocent, and people were saying that comics cause people to be violent, cause kids to be violent, and uh it had witchcraft.
01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:40.079
Wow.
01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:43.600
We de we got that we got there again with video games after a while.
01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:44.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:45.039
That's wild, yeah.
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:48.319
Uh everything just goes, you know, in in a circle.
01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:53.680
But so I think there would have definitely been some kind of backlash, but comics weren't popular like they are now.
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:56.159
They were big, sure, but they weren't like they are now.
01:40:56.319 --> 01:41:00.399
Yeah I think it would have if there was a controversy, it would have probably died.
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:00.720
Yeah.
01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:01.119
Yeah.
01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:16.239
Today it was like today when this comic, not literally today, yeah, but in today's day and age, when this comic came out, people talked about more so the fact that this comic has been locked in a vault for 40 years and we're finally releasing it.
01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:16.479
Yeah.
01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:20.880
And then the Christian Instagram accounts were like, hey, it shows Jesus as the sinner of the multiverse.
01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:21.359
Yeah.
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:24.000
Okay, well, that's really all people talked about.
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:24.239
Yeah.
01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:26.399
Nobody talked about the demon stuff, nobody talked about it.
01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:30.640
Yeah, they just kind of looked through they all it's honestly like they flipped through it and they were like, Oh, yep, this is great.
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:30.880
Yeah.
01:41:30.960 --> 01:41:31.119
Yeah.
01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:31.520
Yeah.
01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:34.319
So that's probably what have happened in the 80s too.
01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:36.159
It would have probably just died down.
01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:36.720
Yeah.
01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:38.000
Um, but I don't know.
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:39.680
I'm I'm curious.
01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:40.239
No.
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:42.720
I I Is it something you want to like?
01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:44.399
Do you still because I know you didn't get a physical copy.
01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:48.319
Do you still want a physical for it after seeing all this?
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:51.760
I guess that's how we'll rate it beyond the bullet since it's not like a pull list.
01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:53.039
I want to tell you something.
01:41:53.199 --> 01:42:09.760
Now, now that I have a daughter and I've been a dad for three weeks, yeah, um, I start thinking about comics not so much in terms of I I think comics uh th that I want to buy physical are no longer, oh man, I've gotta have this issue, I've gotta have it.
01:42:10.239 --> 01:42:13.039
I think of it, what do I want to pass it down to my daughter?
01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:16.079
And so I'm gonna say no.
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:24.640
I wouldn't want a physical issue uh of this um because I want her to know who Jesus actually is.
01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:32.800
And if she ever asks, if she grows up and she does like comics, um I'll tell her about this, and if she wants it, I'm not gonna say no, you can't have it.
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:33.279
Right.
01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:38.560
Um I'm just gonna would explain, hey, this is why I didn't buy this issue.
01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:44.800
Um I want you to know Jesus as he actually is, as your Lord and Savior, who was God, who came in the flesh.
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:45.039
Yeah.
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:46.560
Um I want you to know that.
01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:49.039
But if you want to read this, it's a cool moment.
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:50.880
I have got no problem with you reading it.
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:51.119
Yeah.
01:42:51.279 --> 01:42:52.479
Um, so that's how I feel.
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:59.119
Um, no, I don't want a physical issue because especially when she's young, probably not a comic for she needs to read anyways.
01:42:59.279 --> 01:42:59.920
Right, right, right.
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:02.479
Um, because you never know, you know, she could be four or five.
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:10.720
She could open up my my comic boxes and just pull out a random issue and be like, oh well, well, dad, I read a comic book that has the demons in it.
01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:12.720
Well, that's not what I want for you.
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:13.359
That's funny enough.
01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:15.439
I want you to read Nort with this dingling.
01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:19.439
Funny enough, my dad did that with me.
01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:21.439
Uh, guess what cop book he did it with?
01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:22.560
It was not Venom.
01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:25.199
Was it like what Batman and Arkham Asylum or something?
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:26.079
Close.
01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:28.000
Uh it was the killing joke.
01:43:29.520 --> 01:43:30.159
How much better?
01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:35.039
We we sat and he he he was like, he let me look through his copy of the killing joke, which I have now.
01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:35.840
I I own it.
01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:36.000
Yeah.
01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:37.920
Um, but uh, and he covered up Barbara.
01:43:38.319 --> 01:43:40.720
I remember he covered up Barbara Gordon laying there dead.
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:45.760
Yeah um and or laying there shot, and he was like, You you don't need to see that.
01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:50.319
And then one night I snuck into his comic collection because I was like, I want to see it without his hand over.
01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:51.920
And I was like, That's it.
01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:55.039
Is I you know I got I was like, I couldn't even remember if that was what he covered up.
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:57.359
I was like, that looks like the pay, but that's not that bad.
01:43:57.439 --> 01:44:00.560
It's just she just there's just a little bit of blood and she's just laying there dead.
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:01.520
Yeah, it's not that bad.
01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:05.840
So so going back to Beta Ray Bill this morning when I was reading it with her, yeah.
01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:11.039
There is a scene where it's like they're about to have Beta Ray Bill and Lady Sif are about to have sex.
01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:16.159
Well, I didn't know that was coming up, and I'm reading it, and I see like she kisses him and takes his shirt off.
01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:20.720
I'm like, okay, we're gonna just Okay, here we're back with the story.
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:22.479
Oh, look at so crazy.
01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:25.920
What did the panel say?
01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:27.600
Oh, it just said brief intermission.
01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:29.760
Yeah, just it just isn't advertised.
01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:32.239
There are 20 ads, you know, it's not no big deal.
01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:33.039
Don't worry about that.
01:44:33.199 --> 01:44:33.840
Yeah.
01:44:34.239 --> 01:44:40.000
Um, but you actually gave uh Aurora before she was even born a spider girl um trade.
01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:42.000
I wanted to get her a little comic book.
01:44:42.079 --> 01:44:43.279
I was like, what would be a good comic?
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:45.760
And I'm like, spider, let's get her spider girl.
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:47.520
Yeah, you know, something she can she can look into.
01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:50.720
We did read it the other day, um, but she was only like a week old at that point.
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:53.199
Yeah, so she's just like what are you what are you saying?
01:44:58.079 --> 01:45:01.600
But so uh to answer your question, no, I don't want it physical.
01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:02.479
No, that's okay.
01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:05.680
I I think of it more of what do I want her to be able to read in the future.
01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:06.479
That's interesting.
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:11.680
I'm I that's a that's a really that's a way of looking at it that I never would have thought about.
01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:14.640
It's like you're now thinking of like what would I want her to have.
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:14.960
Yeah.
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:19.680
Because as a kid, she's gonna grow up, and if she does get into comics, she's gonna start looking through and being like, Can I add this?
01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:21.760
Yeah, she's gonna go through my collection before she.
01:45:22.000 --> 01:45:23.920
I mean, of course, I'll take her to the comic book store.
01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:24.399
Right, right, right.
01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:25.920
But she's gonna go through my collection.
01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:27.760
Your collection is gonna be the first.
01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:30.000
We need to get you some Donnie Kate's venom in there.
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.560
Stat! Here, just take my whole collection.
01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:33.439
You can just have it.
01:45:33.520 --> 01:45:34.079
There you go.
01:45:34.319 --> 01:45:38.479
Uh, so yeah, and that totally changed has changed my perspective on comics.
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:39.359
That's really cool.
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:39.920
I like that.
01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:40.479
Yeah.
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:43.680
Well, there's one more thing to talk about for our episode.
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:46.399
We had a trailer drop for Spider-Man brand new day.
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:48.399
And I know we talked about the first trailer a while back.
01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:49.600
We did get a new one.
01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:51.039
This is this is exciting.
01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:55.439
This is um, and I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say this first first and foremost before we start talking about the trailer.
01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:57.760
Venom is not in this movie.
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:04.960
I am I keep getting things on my Instagram where I keep seeing people going, guys, Venom is gonna be in the movie.
01:46:05.039 --> 01:46:06.000
Like his eyes turn black.
01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:07.119
That's literally the symbiote.
01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:08.800
And it's like, no, it's not.
01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:11.119
He's mutating into man spider.
01:46:11.199 --> 01:46:12.239
Like, it's not, it's not that.
01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:19.680
And then uh he did an interview, Tom Holland did an interview, and he was talking about Spider-Man's relationship, and he's like, Well, they have like a symbiotic relationship.
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:21.359
And he went, Oh, he said symbiotic?
01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:23.439
Do you know symbiote?
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:25.279
Do you know who else has Venom?
01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:26.399
Venom's in the movie.
01:46:26.479 --> 01:46:26.960
It's confirmed.
01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:28.720
And it's like, no, he's not.
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:34.880
And they've also been talking about uh Zendaya and Tom Holland's outfits that they wore on the red carpet.
01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:50.640
Um, it's a it's uh Tom Holland's wearing a black sweater with like a it's like a white, it's got like a white collar, like it's a normal sweater, and then Zendaya is wearing a uh she's wearing a black shirt with like a spider on it, like it's got like a white spider like crawling on it almost.
01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:54.159
It's not a venom spider, it's just a white spider shape, right?
01:46:54.319 --> 01:47:02.720
Yeah, and people are like, they don't just wear their outfits like it it this is planned, it's gotta be venom, and I'm like, I want venom in this more than anybody else.
01:47:02.800 --> 01:47:06.399
Like I would love it if Venom was in this, or if the black suit was in this or whatever.
01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:07.600
It ain't happening.
01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:09.760
No, like they're gonna advertise it that way.
01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:10.560
Yeah.
01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:15.920
But with all they've released so far, we've seen Hulk, we've seen Punisher.
01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:16.960
I mean, come on.
01:47:17.039 --> 01:47:19.920
This is virtually Albin but confirmed Gene Gray.
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:20.880
I yeah, yeah.
01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:21.680
And that sucks, man.
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:23.520
Yeah.
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:24.000
Uh go ahead.
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:28.960
Well, I'm no well, I was just all I was gonna say is it it really sucks because like they're hiding this main villain.
01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:30.239
It's gotta be Gene Gray.
01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:30.880
It has to be.
01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:34.079
Like, there's no way, and it's it's kind of like we already know.
01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:34.640
I don't know.
01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:35.760
I hope it's a bigger twist.
01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:36.800
I hope it is too.
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:47.600
I hope uh um because you know I've seen people say, look, look, it has to be Gene because she causes everybody to freeze, and that's exactly what Professor X does in X-Men One.
01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:49.039
He causes everybody to freeze.
01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:52.880
And I'm like, oh yeah, I guess so.
01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:53.520
Maybe.
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:53.920
Yeah.
01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:55.920
Random, random thing.
01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:56.239
Okay.
01:47:56.560 --> 01:48:08.319
What if it's what if it's uh Peter and MJ's daughter and she's from the future and it's a Mephisto thing, and they're doing Spider-Man literally brain doing one more day.
01:48:08.479 --> 01:48:09.920
Ugh, people would be pissed.
01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:10.880
It would be so funny.
01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:15.439
Tom Holland's like, I've done a lot of research into what people want for this movie.
01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:19.760
Yeah, and they want their one more day to be ruined.
01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:22.960
That's that's what they seem to really like.
01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:24.800
It's like, are you guys deaf?
01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:28.800
Um, but um, this trailer has a really awesome opening.
01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:30.479
It opens with with Peter.
01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:34.960
He's like flying through the air and he lands on a car, and he's like, What is happening to me?
01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:43.520
Like something's going on with his powers, and Scorpion's there, and he slams his tail up against him, and he's like, Like, oh, it's finally nice to kick your ass, Spider-Man.
01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:54.479
And his eyes go black and he grabs his tail, yanks him over, slams him on the ground, and then grabs his tail again and flips him into a police car that's moving, flipping the police car.
01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.279
And I'm like, oh crap, that would be a great black suit scene.
01:48:57.359 --> 01:48:58.239
Yeah, straight up.
01:48:58.319 --> 01:48:59.199
Like that would be awesome.
01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:02.399
Just like just you mentioned earlier.
01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:07.920
I told you somebody said Scorpion's waited 10 years just to get his butt kicked by the Spider-Man.
01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:09.279
It's funny.
01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:13.760
Matt Gargan's always kind of been just the kind of loser of Spider-Man villains, you know?
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:16.079
Yeah, like he's always just he sucks.
01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:18.000
Like he's just he's such a crappy villain.
01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:22.000
Like, Scorpion's a cool villain, but he just Matt Gargan sucks.
01:49:22.479 --> 01:49:23.279
Hill and Shocker.
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:28.479
Shocker gets back here, Shocker! Shocker!
01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:31.359
I'll never forget that.
01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:36.479
You can't just give me I'll chase you to the edge of the earth!
01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:38.560
Dude, I thought Shocker said that when I was a kid.
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:40.640
I didn't think that was Peter, I thought that was Shocker.
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:43.359
And watching it as a I'm like, that's that's Peter.
01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:44.960
It's crazy, bro.
01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:47.359
Like it's really messing with his head.
01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:48.800
That's my chair.
01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:50.239
Oh, your chair fell off again.
01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:50.960
Oh, there it was.
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:52.319
Chair's broken.
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:55.199
Chair can handle it.
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:56.880
He's like, I'm out of this conversation.
01:49:56.960 --> 01:49:57.520
I'm done.
01:49:57.760 --> 01:49:59.199
You guys have lost me.
01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:06.239
But yeah, we get we get that's what Spider-Man does in Scorpio.
01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:10.960
Yeah, that's what it sounded like when he hit the police car.
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:14.479
Um but yeah, so we get we get them we get them fighting.
01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:20.960
He he he's so clearly the overall thing of this trailer is something is going on with Peter, he's losing control.
01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:29.600
He he's mutating, which is causing this anger to come out of him, and um he's he's getting carried away with his powers.
01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:30.079
Right.
01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:31.840
I hope he turns into Man Spider.
01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:32.399
We don't know.
01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:33.680
I guess we won't know.
01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:36.720
Um, but we get um actually you know what you you take it a little bit more.
01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:38.319
So, real quick with Manspider.
01:50:38.479 --> 01:50:40.399
Did you never finish Spider Noir, did you?
01:50:41.039 --> 01:50:41.600
I'm not there yet.
01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:42.960
I watched I watched Spider Noir.
01:50:43.119 --> 01:50:46.239
Man Spider is in it, though it's a little bit different than what I expected.
01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:48.640
I've seen the the the I've seen the character.
01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:53.119
Okay, it's like a mute yeah, because I mean it's in the trailer and it's like a mutated person.
01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:54.720
I haven't well I'm getting there.
01:50:54.800 --> 01:50:56.880
I'm slowly, I'm catching up very slowly.
01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:57.439
I'm working on it.
01:50:57.680 --> 01:50:58.079
I finished it.
01:50:58.159 --> 01:50:58.399
It's good.
01:50:58.640 --> 01:50:58.960
I like it.
01:50:59.039 --> 01:50:59.920
We talked about it a little bit.
01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:01.039
Uh yeah.
01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:07.039
The first three, I've watched the first three two episodes like four times now because like I started watching it by myself and now I'm watching it with Elise.
01:51:07.359 --> 01:51:09.520
I've I've just watched the first two episodes on repeat.
01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:09.680
Yeah.
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:11.680
So now I'm getting into episode three, which is new.
01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:14.239
So hopefully from this point forward, we'll move through it really quick.
01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:18.000
I need to get on it really bad because I've just had not been doing good with watching stuff.
01:51:18.239 --> 01:51:18.800
No, you're good.
01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:23.359
So so anyways, I bring up Spider Noir because because many spider kind of shows up.
01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:26.880
But um, yeah, so uh correct me if I'm wrong.
01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:44.319
So we see him go to Bruce Banner uh and he's saying he's talking about all this different hey, I've heard you talked about re like radiation, being able to control the radiation and what that does, that kind of research, and uh how can you suppress the bad but keep the good?
01:51:44.560 --> 01:51:48.960
Yeah, and Bruce Banner's response is like why would you want to do that?
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:52.159
How could you con how do you determine what's good and what's bad?
01:51:52.319 --> 01:51:52.560
Yeah.
01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:54.800
Um which I thought that was interesting.
01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:55.279
That was cool.
01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:57.119
And he's like, You're not one of my students, are you?
01:51:57.199 --> 01:51:57.359
Yeah.
01:51:57.520 --> 01:51:58.720
He's starting to figure something out.
01:51:59.039 --> 01:51:59.359
Right.
01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:04.479
Uh we see we see Bruce transform into Gray Hulk.
01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:04.960
Yes.
01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:06.720
He's got a little tone of green.
01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:07.359
Yeah.
01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:11.760
Uh and he Spider Man's like, I didn't know you could get that big.
01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:12.960
Like thunderclaps.
01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:14.479
He thunderclaps, yeah.
01:52:14.560 --> 01:52:15.119
He looks scary.
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:15.600
He does.
01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:16.079
Like, yeah.
01:52:16.319 --> 01:52:16.640
That's good.
01:52:16.720 --> 01:52:17.279
That's what I wanted.
01:52:17.359 --> 01:52:17.520
Yeah.
01:52:18.640 --> 01:52:20.720
But we we get we get Hulk, we get the hand.
01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:21.600
We get the hand, yeah.
01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:23.520
The hand, and there's a the big fight within.
01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:25.279
This is this movie's got a lot going on.
01:52:25.520 --> 01:52:25.920
Yeah, yeah.
01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:27.840
It's it's the longest Spider-Man movie.
01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:29.359
It's been confirmed to be the longest Spider movie.
01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:30.159
Two and a half hours.
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:30.399
Yeah.
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:31.199
I've already got my tickets.
01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:32.000
I'm very excited.
01:52:32.159 --> 01:52:34.720
I I I we talked about this before we recorded.
01:52:35.279 --> 01:52:39.600
But uh I showed the trailer to my wife when it came out.
01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:40.479
We watched it together.
01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:40.800
Yeah.
01:52:41.039 --> 01:52:50.560
And uh she's holding our baby, and she turns after the trailer finishes, she turns and looks at her and says, Daddy's gonna leave us to go watch this with Uncle Paul.
01:52:52.159 --> 01:52:53.520
You are correct.
01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:54.960
Well, glad you know.
01:52:55.600 --> 01:52:56.800
I'm glad we've made that aware.
01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:57.680
We're cool with that.
01:52:57.840 --> 01:52:59.279
So cool, that works.
01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:04.560
Um, but yeah, uh, so we we don't really see a whole lot of punisher in this trailer.
01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:10.640
Um, so but I've heard he has uh he probably has a bigger role than Holtman, I would assume.
01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:14.399
We see this character, we still don't know who she is.
01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:20.079
Damage control, they tell Peter that she's a dangerous threat.
01:53:20.319 --> 01:53:21.840
Um we don't know who she is.
01:53:22.319 --> 01:53:25.119
They can't even see they can't see the they don't know.
01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:27.920
And Keith David is rumored to be Jackal.
01:53:28.960 --> 01:53:29.840
That would be cool.
01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:32.079
Um his voice is in it.
01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:36.000
And there's a little uh during the party scene at MJ's place or whatever, yeah.
01:53:36.239 --> 01:53:41.760
Um when that guy's like rising her up, there's a keg, like a beer keg on the table that says Jackal.
01:53:42.079 --> 01:53:42.319
Oh really?
01:53:42.800 --> 01:53:44.239
It's like Jackal beer or something.
01:53:44.560 --> 01:53:44.800
Yeah, yeah.
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:48.960
People are like, Jackal's in the movie, and Venom's in the movie, and Carnage is coming.
01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:53.279
Like I've seen I've seen people say, if this is Paul, I'm walking out of the theater.
01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:55.039
Dude, it might just be.
01:53:55.199 --> 01:53:58.000
Dude, they might they wouldn't.
01:53:58.319 --> 01:53:58.640
No.
01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:00.479
It looks like it could be Jackal, though.
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:01.199
It could be.
01:54:01.439 --> 01:54:03.439
Like, that's what or what's his name?
01:54:03.520 --> 01:54:05.039
Who who's jack who is Jackal?
01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:10.960
Jackal, all I know Jackal from is the clone conspiracy by uh Dan Slot, where he brings back Mary Jane.
01:54:11.119 --> 01:54:11.359
Yeah.
01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:14.720
He has all the clones, but he has a a name, like a real name.
01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:15.680
I don't know.
01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:17.199
I'm I'm a horrible kind of thing.
01:54:17.359 --> 01:54:17.840
I hate Spider-Man.
01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:18.560
He's not even that cool.
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:20.479
I've never even read a Spider-Man comic.
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:24.880
Right, right, yeah, yeah.
01:54:25.600 --> 01:54:27.680
So reviewing all these Spider-Man books.
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:32.560
Um we see we see Mary Jane get rizzed up.
01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:32.880
Yeah.
01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:37.760
Uh we see um uh Ned is looking into who Spider-Man is.
01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:38.239
Yeah, yeah.
01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:39.439
He's got a spider tracker.
01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:40.079
Yep.
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:48.960
Um trying to figure out I I've got dad brain, so yeah, you're gonna have to try to figure out who he is and like how he's yeah, trying to figure out, yeah.
01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:54.880
Um we also get um uh dude the swinging scenes in this movie look great.
01:54:55.039 --> 01:54:56.079
Dude, it looks great.
01:54:56.159 --> 01:54:57.199
His suit looks great.
01:54:57.279 --> 01:55:03.680
It it just every the more shots we see of Spider-Man, it's like we're getting a lot more swinging, a lot more action.
01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:12.560
That was something about the home, the homecoming home home series that I didn't like was that um the guy who directed it, um what was his name?
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:19.279
John Watts, he purposely was like, We see too much Spider-Man swinging scenes in every movie, we need less of that, and it's like why?
01:55:19.439 --> 01:55:20.159
He literally said that.
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:24.079
He said he said that yeah, he said he wanted to make these movies very different.
01:55:24.319 --> 01:55:30.239
So he's like, I want to put Spider-Man in situations that he's never been in, um, and also do less swinging scenes.
01:55:30.319 --> 01:55:32.399
And people were like, but we like the swing scenes.
01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:33.520
And he's like, Okay, I'll do it.
01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:36.000
And he did it in uh far from home just a little bit.
01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:37.920
But yeah, and I don't know.
01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:46.720
I'm the the he actually, funny enough, John Watts, uh the director of this movie, reached out to John Watts and was like, Hey, do you have any advice for me going into this Spider-Man film?
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:51.199
And John Watts said, Any web swinging stuff, uh, do it CGI.
01:55:51.279 --> 01:55:52.640
It's not worth doing it practical.
01:55:52.720 --> 01:55:53.520
It's just not worth it.
01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:57.119
And he went, Okay, and he did it all practical because it looks way better.
01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:00.640
And it does, it look, it looks amazing, it looks so good.
01:56:00.880 --> 01:56:06.880
Um, I'm very excited to see, like, just I'm just I'm really excited for this movie.
01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:09.119
Like, I'm it's it's gonna look really good.
01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:19.760
I hope the story isn't too crazy, and I hope like I I you know I want to know who the villain is because if it is just Gene Gray, like I feel like I already know what's gonna happen.
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:25.600
Like, I don't feel like there's a lot of new exciting surprises in this film because of Gene Gray.
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:33.600
Now, if Spider-Man becomes Man Spider and that's kind of the finale of the movie is him being the villain himself, that would be a cool surprise.
01:56:34.079 --> 01:56:36.800
I saw somebody say it what exactly what you're talking about.
01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:40.560
Like, I I I've watched this trailer 500 times, I still don't know who the villain in this movie is.
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:42.560
Somebody called it Depression.
01:56:43.439 --> 01:56:44.319
It's just depression.
01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:45.920
Yeah, Peter is the villain.
01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:49.359
Um, yeah, I I mean you really don't know.
01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:51.920
I mean, the hand, what do they have to do with any of the things?
01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:53.039
Yeah, the hand is involved, yeah.
01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:57.760
Could be the villain, but I don't think they're gonna make him the villain, quote unquote.
01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:09.359
Well, if you listen in the trailer, uh it's Mark Ruffalo's voice, and he's talking to Spider-Man as if I this mystery Gene Gray character or whoever is taking over his mind.
01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:09.760
Right.
01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:14.560
Because she says something like not me, but but he can, or something like that.
01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:17.279
Yeah, you know, she's she takes him over.
01:57:18.159 --> 01:57:19.039
Yeah, so I don't know.
01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:28.000
I'm very cuz you know, because Sadie Sink, who's playing this character, has done some reviews and they're like, Yeah, your character's a mystery, and she's like, Yeah, you know, we're keeping it really under wraps.
01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:30.239
I just I really character is a mystery.
01:57:32.159 --> 01:57:32.479
I don't know.
01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.439
I just I'm a little nervous because it feels like everybody called it already.
01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:36.720
Yeah, but you know what I mean.
01:57:36.960 --> 01:57:40.640
I almost feel like it's not gonna be Gene.
01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:47.439
And if it is Gene, they're gonna do some twists, like, oh yeah, sorry, my name is J G or something.
01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:48.079
J G.
01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:49.520
Like they did with Michelle Jones.
01:57:49.680 --> 01:57:50.319
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:51.039
JG.
01:57:51.439 --> 01:57:52.159
J G.
01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:55.279
Uh Genny Green.
01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:57.680
My name is Ginny, Jenny Green.
01:57:58.159 --> 01:57:58.800
What's that color?
01:57:58.960 --> 01:57:59.279
Green.
01:57:59.359 --> 01:58:00.000
Wait, say that again.
01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:02.479
Say that again.
01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:03.840
Say that again.
01:58:04.159 --> 01:58:05.279
It's fantastic.
01:58:07.119 --> 01:58:08.560
Um, but I'm excited about this.
01:58:08.640 --> 01:58:10.960
It looks good, and um, we'll have to go watch it.
01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:12.399
Yeah, we're definitely gonna need to go watch it.
01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:17.359
I'm going, I'm going to Regal the first time in Knoxville because they have the better popcorn bucket.
01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:19.039
They've announced all their popcorn buckets.
01:58:19.119 --> 01:58:21.199
One of them, it's the Cinemark one, is so cool.
01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:25.439
It's his hand thhipping, and the web is coming out, and that's where the bucket is.
01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:30.960
And the straw, there's like a like a single web line coming out of that, and that's the straw, and it's popcorn and a drink holder.
01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:31.520
That's cool.
01:58:31.680 --> 01:58:34.000
But it's a Cinemark exclusive, and there's no Cinemarks here.
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:34.960
That unfortunately.
01:58:35.359 --> 01:58:38.560
Which I've seen one, it's a building, and Spider-Man's on the side of the building.
01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:39.439
That one's a regal one.
01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:39.680
Yeah.
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:39.920
Okay.
01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:41.439
So if you want one, I'll grab it for you.
01:58:41.520 --> 01:58:45.359
Um, I'm gonna get the I'm gonna get the head because it's his head and it's the eyes.
01:58:45.439 --> 01:58:49.279
Um, it's not like the head, it's like a bucket that looks like his face.
01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:51.039
It's like the Wolverine from Deadpool.
01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:52.800
It's like it's massive pulled up.
01:58:53.119 --> 01:58:53.920
Did you see those?
01:58:54.319 --> 01:58:56.159
Someone made one of that in miles.
01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.439
It was like, I was like, Yes, I need this.
01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:01.199
Get this on my desk.
01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:03.359
Where's the Venom popcorn bucket for this movie?
01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:09.840
I'm just gonna take a picture of the Venom popcorn bucket from the Venom movie and go leaked Spider-Man brand new day popcorn bucket.
01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:12.720
You should make it like super grainy, like all those leaking.
01:59:14.079 --> 01:59:21.279
I'll just screenshot it over and over again for like a thousand times until it's just like leaked Spider-Man brand new day popcorn bucket, AMC exclusive.
01:59:21.359 --> 01:59:22.319
This looks like Venom.
01:59:22.479 --> 01:59:25.600
And it's just it is it's just the Venom movie popcorn bucket.
01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:27.920
Dude, it would I blow up.
01:59:28.319 --> 01:59:29.760
I might do that just to see what happens.
01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:33.840
I might, I'm tempted just to be the I'm tempted to be the bad guy.
01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:40.079
Guys, comment if you think I should do that and absolutely mess with everybody's heads who think venom will be in this film.
01:59:40.319 --> 01:59:47.520
You know, if I ever stop posting on the comic nation, I'm gonna hand it over to you and I want you just to turn it into a troll account.
01:59:48.399 --> 01:59:52.640
Just like I'll just go in there and be like, Ally Wings Venom's awesome.
01:59:52.880 --> 01:59:55.439
Unfortunately, like there are people who say that.
01:59:55.600 --> 01:59:59.039
There are people who really like his run, and I just wanna like what's wrong with you?
01:59:59.119 --> 01:59:59.279
Yeah.
01:59:59.439 --> 02:00:00.640
Are you are you even a fan?
02:00:00.800 --> 02:00:02.000
Are you even a real fan?
02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:04.319
Like, do you even read comic books, bro?
02:00:04.960 --> 02:00:05.760
Probably not.
02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:08.000
They're like, well, the Venom movie.
02:00:09.279 --> 02:00:19.920
It's it's um, well, according to the lore in the Venom movie, uh if Eddie Brock is not Tom Hardy, then it's not actually really Venom.
02:00:20.079 --> 02:00:21.840
Yeah, the Tom Hardy is Venom.
02:00:21.920 --> 02:00:24.319
Like, for sure, he's the best Venom actor ever.
02:00:25.359 --> 02:00:27.119
I I like Topher Great.
02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:29.920
I don't know who I like at this point.
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:31.760
I just like the comic book one.
02:00:32.079 --> 02:00:33.119
Fine, I'll do it myself.
02:00:33.279 --> 02:00:34.319
I'll do it myself.
02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:38.079
It's me holding the Venom rights in my hand.
02:00:38.800 --> 02:00:40.239
Uh, but yeah, that was the trailer.
02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:40.800
It looks good.
02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:42.159
I'm I'm excited to watch it.
02:00:42.239 --> 02:00:45.039
Um, that will probably be the first movie I go watch.
02:00:45.199 --> 02:00:48.319
Uh honestly, that might that and Clayface.
02:00:48.560 --> 02:00:50.880
Uh Clayface is I'm so excited for it still.
02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:53.760
Might be the only movies I go to theaters to watch this year.
02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:54.479
Really?
02:00:54.640 --> 02:00:55.199
Uh yeah.
02:00:55.600 --> 02:00:57.840
You're not gonna go Oh yeah, well, yeah, you're not seeing Supergirl.
02:00:58.000 --> 02:00:58.640
We talked about that earlier.
02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:00.720
No, I I I want to see Supergirl.
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:02.800
Is it because she has an earring, Clayton?
02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:03.760
Yeah.
02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:04.640
Garbage.
02:01:05.039 --> 02:01:06.159
Yeah, that's so inaccurate.
02:01:06.399 --> 02:01:10.479
If you're not wearing a an apron and she's not in the kitchen, I don't want it.
02:01:12.319 --> 02:01:13.920
Did you not do you not know what I'm talking about?
02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:14.319
Yeah, I know.
02:01:14.479 --> 02:01:25.359
Okay, I was gonna say people are mad because if for those of you listening who don't know, people are mad because um in the poster she has earrings and they're like, Well, if her skin is impenetrable, then how does she have earrings?
02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:33.520
And it's like, and James Gunn actually came out and he was like, Well, the same reason she gets drunk, she went to a planet close to a red sun and she got her ears pierced because she's ghetto.
02:01:33.680 --> 02:01:35.359
Not ghetto, she's gangster.
02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:37.439
She's cool like that.
02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:38.000
She's hip.
02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:59.840
Well, I I bring up the I bring up the the whole thing with being in the kitchen because um Millie Alcock, the girl who plays uh Supergirl, has said that if the movie flops basically that it's because of uh Christian dads who are are Christian dads of four who just can't uh appreciate a woman in power or something like that.
02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:00.640
Interesting.
02:02:00.880 --> 02:02:03.199
And I'm like, I don't think that's a problem.
02:02:03.279 --> 02:02:06.960
I think if it flops, just Supergirl's just not that popular of a character.
02:02:07.039 --> 02:02:08.800
She's got one good story in comics.
02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:09.279
Yeah.
02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:12.399
Like I think the story I think the movie could be good.
02:02:12.640 --> 02:02:14.640
I'm I and I am excited to watch it.
02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:18.560
Um, but it's just I've got a baby, I've got a family.
02:02:18.720 --> 02:02:18.960
Yeah.
02:02:19.039 --> 02:02:19.920
Um you are a dad.
02:02:20.079 --> 02:02:22.319
I I literally need three more kids, is what you need.
02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:23.520
I'm literally a Christian dad.
02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:24.319
Yeah, you're a Christian dad.
02:02:24.399 --> 02:02:25.439
Oh gosh, oh no.
02:02:25.680 --> 02:02:26.399
You are Christian dad.
02:02:26.560 --> 02:02:27.840
I am a white Christian dad.
02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:29.199
I am the worst.
02:02:29.520 --> 02:02:31.680
I am the worst to watch this movie.
02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:33.119
They don't want me going to the movie.
02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:37.520
Uh but no, I will I will watch it.
02:02:37.600 --> 02:02:40.159
It's just it's just gonna have to be when it comes to HBO.
02:02:40.399 --> 02:02:43.359
Um, Spider-Man, I'll go watch Spider-Man, I'll go watch Clayface because I told you I would.
02:02:43.600 --> 02:02:44.479
I'm so excited for Clayface.
02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:46.720
And then Avengers Doomsday, honestly.
02:02:46.960 --> 02:02:48.000
Oh yeah, that comes out this year.
02:02:48.079 --> 02:02:48.720
I forgot about that.
02:02:48.960 --> 02:02:49.520
I keep it.
02:02:49.600 --> 02:02:53.359
I keep forgetting I keep forgetting because I don't really know if I'm that excited about it.
02:02:53.600 --> 02:02:57.439
I'm not really they only dropped the one trailer and it's just kind of Well, it's the four trailers.
02:02:57.600 --> 02:02:57.920
Oh, yeah.
02:02:58.399 --> 02:03:01.279
The Cap, the Thor, the X-Men, and then the Black Panther and Fantastic.
02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:02.239
Oh, I guess it is, yeah.
02:03:02.720 --> 02:03:05.039
I just I I don't know.
02:03:05.760 --> 02:03:06.239
I don't know.
02:03:06.319 --> 02:03:07.119
I don't know enough about it.
02:03:07.199 --> 02:03:08.000
I haven't seen enough.
02:03:08.079 --> 02:03:10.880
They're really keeping things secret, which I guess is cool.
02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:15.359
Um some say there's like a secret war going on in Sun Marvel.
02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:18.880
Now I will say, if the symbiote ain't in that movie, I will be mad.
02:03:18.960 --> 02:03:23.279
Because they're there that is the best, that's the that's the only way you can like if you they bruh.
02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:24.560
That's all I gotta say.
02:03:25.199 --> 02:03:25.680
Bruh.
02:03:27.039 --> 02:03:28.880
Well, that was the end of the other side.
02:03:29.439 --> 02:03:30.640
Y'all know where I'm going with this.
02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:31.680
Y'all know, y'all know.
02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:32.560
Y'all get that one.
02:03:32.640 --> 02:03:33.600
That one's justified.
02:03:33.760 --> 02:03:35.760
Yeah, that one that one is because that's when they introduced the symbol.
02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:37.039
That's when they introduced the symbiote, yeah.
02:03:37.119 --> 02:03:38.640
So if it ain't in there, I won't be pissed.
02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:38.880
Yeah.
02:03:39.039 --> 02:03:39.920
I'm gonna be sad, I'm gonna be sad.
02:03:40.000 --> 02:03:40.479
I'm gonna be very sad.
02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:41.359
I'm gonna be like Clayton.
02:03:41.680 --> 02:03:43.680
Actually, I'm getting mine re-graded right now.
02:03:43.760 --> 02:03:44.159
Uh yeah.
02:03:44.399 --> 02:03:44.800
Very excited.
02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:47.199
I got the new uh black suit label on the top.
02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:48.079
Oh, it's gonna look so pretty.
02:03:48.239 --> 02:03:49.760
What it what was it originally graded at?
02:03:49.920 --> 02:03:50.399
9.8.
02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:51.199
9.8.
02:03:51.279 --> 02:03:52.079
So yes, sir.
02:03:52.159 --> 02:03:55.600
I bought it for uh 180 schmeckels back in the day.
02:03:55.760 --> 02:03:55.920
Wow.
02:03:56.079 --> 02:03:58.640
Because that's now it's like do you know how much that book's worth at a 9.9?
02:03:58.880 --> 02:03:59.760
Like$650.
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:01.359
Oh my gosh, dude.
02:04:01.680 --> 02:04:02.159
It shocked me.
02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:03.119
I was like, oh my gosh.
02:04:03.199 --> 02:04:08.159
I was I was scared to send it off because it it was in um it was in a really the old, old CGC cases.
02:04:08.239 --> 02:04:08.319
Yeah.
02:04:08.560 --> 02:04:10.720
So they're flimsy, they're not really that strong.
02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:21.119
Um, for those of you who collect comic books, if you know CGC um just as an example, you know how like if you look at the top of the CGC grade, it's got like a little label to show what it is if you're flipping through a box full of them.
02:04:21.279 --> 02:04:21.439
Right.
02:04:21.680 --> 02:04:24.079
That is it's glued on the outside of the case.
02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:26.000
It's not like the new ones, it's on the inside.
02:04:26.159 --> 02:04:26.479
Oh, okay.
02:04:26.640 --> 02:04:27.920
Yeah, that's how old this case is.
02:04:28.000 --> 02:04:35.600
And it was it it cracked on the top behind the grade label, so they could just re-case it for not like they don't have to re-grade it or anything.
02:04:35.680 --> 02:04:35.840
Right.
02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:43.279
Um, but there is always a chance that something could happen in in grading where it could get damaged, and if something happens, then unfortunately it is worth it.
02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:43.920
Are you worried?
02:04:44.079 --> 02:04:44.960
I'm terrified actually.
02:04:45.119 --> 02:04:53.039
I'm very scared because it's like I bought that a 9.8, and it's like now seeing how much it's worth, I'm like, I need it to be more protected, but I have to take the risk to make it more protected.
02:04:53.279 --> 02:04:54.479
It comes back out of the 10.
02:04:54.720 --> 02:05:00.079
Well, and also I hear oh my god, oh my I'd be like, that's a great mistake.
02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:00.479
You know what?
02:05:00.560 --> 02:05:01.119
I'll take it.
02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:03.439
This just turned into a thousand dollar book.
02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:06.800
Um but no, they uh uh what was it?
02:05:06.880 --> 02:05:16.560
They um I think they have a policy where if your book gets damaged, they'll actually pay you the value of what it of how much it was before it got damaged and then still grade it and send it back to you.
02:05:16.640 --> 02:05:16.800
Right.
02:05:16.960 --> 02:05:20.960
So at least I'll make, you know, like I mean heck, I can just buy it buy a new one at that point.
02:05:21.119 --> 02:05:22.800
Um, but um it'll be fine.
02:05:22.880 --> 02:05:23.520
Yeah, it'll be cool.
02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:28.720
But uh it's got the Spider-Man, the Secret Wars label on it, which it was like eight dollars to add that to my order.
02:05:28.800 --> 02:05:30.079
So I was like, shoot, yeah, I'll do it.
02:05:30.159 --> 02:05:30.319
Right.
02:05:30.479 --> 02:05:32.880
Um thanks to Nirvana Comics for sending that out for me.
02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:36.319
It should still say like first appearance of alien symbiosis.
02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:37.199
It'll say it on the back.
02:05:37.359 --> 02:05:37.439
Okay.
02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:39.119
It'll be on the back of it.
02:05:39.199 --> 02:05:42.479
Because I was wondering where that would be and when you Yeah, it's on the back.
02:05:42.800 --> 02:05:42.960
Okay.
02:05:43.439 --> 02:05:50.079
And what's it say, like first appearance of it doesn't say first appearance, it says uh origin of the alien symbiote that would eventually become Venom.
02:05:50.159 --> 02:05:54.000
Because technically the first appearance of the black suit is Amazing Spider-Man 252.
02:05:54.479 --> 02:05:55.119
They changed it.
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Yeah, because that that has a prior that released first.
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Okay.
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Which I have that too, signed.
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Uh man, I was gonna ask you.
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Oh, I saw a video real quick before we wrap up today.
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Uh I saw a video that said there are only three more MCU movies uh before they reboot and it's no longer the same MCU it was that we were growing up with.
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What is Spider-Man?
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Spider-Man and then Doomsday and then Secret Wars.
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There's nothing else in between.
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As far as I know, no.
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Which would make sense because whatever happens in Doomsday, they can't do a movie in between.
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Because if they did a movie in between, then it's it could potentially mess with the timeline, unless it was a prequel.
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They did it with like Captain Marvel.
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Right.
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You know, during Infinity War and Endgame.
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I think there's still be shows, but I don't think there's any movies coming out.
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It's weird thinking about it rebooting.
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That's a weird thought.
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But I think they should take a break.
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I think if when Secret Wars happens, but that sucks because if he gets the black suit, then it'll just It'll be like what they did with Cap's Cap picking up Thor's hammer.
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He'll get the black suit, he'll have a really cool scene with it.
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Um with everybody from the multiverse who's ever existed ever from all time, who's ever played a superhero ever in anything.
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Jamie Foxx will be spawn in this movie.
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There's rumors that uh uh that Carnage will be in it from Venom 2.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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There's a rumor that it's uh William or what was his name?
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I almost said Willem Defoe.
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It's not Willem Defoe at all.
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It's Green Goblin.
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Uh she's Spider-Man.
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I have this symbol.
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Oh god.
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Woody Harrelson.
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Woody Harrelson, that's it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um Woody Harrelson's an interesting character.
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He is.
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We're we're getting off on tape.
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We are we are so sorry.
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But um but yeah, so I guess we're looking forward to the movie scene.
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Absolute Batman 21 was great, Transformers 33 was great.
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Uh Dork sounds really fun.
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Sounds fun.
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Uh Venom 258 sucked as per usual.
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Uh Swamp Thing from 1989 was heresy.
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But also good.
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But also interesting, good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uh and then brand new day, very exciting.
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Yeah.
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So we are thankful that you have joined us for this episode as we've returned.
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Uh, hopefully we'll be back in a week or two.
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Uh yeah, week or two.
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Uh Absolute Batman 22 is the next one.
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Yeah, yep, yeah.
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Absolute Batman 22, or three weeks, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Could two to three weeks.
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We'll be somewhere around there.
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Um, dang, that'll that's crazy to think about.
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Yep.
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Um man.
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Uh well that week, Transformers 34 also comes out.
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So that's gonna be.
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So we're just gonna have another big week then.
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Yeah, because Venom comes out next week, I think.
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So I'll have a Venom.
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Oh gosh, dang it.
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And that'll be what, the week before Brandon Day comes out?
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I think so.
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Oh my gosh.
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So we'll have a we'll have a big week.
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That's cool.
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That's a lot going on.
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Uh X-Men will have come back on, X-Men 97.
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Oh, yep.
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Um, yeah, so and then hopefully I'll have finished Spider Noir by then.
02:08:55.359 --> 02:08:55.520
Yep.
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Um we can talk about it because we do need to talk about it, and I need to review null.
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I haven't read the null books.
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I need to read it so I can review it.
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Because Derek said it's good.
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So I need to see.
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But so, all right.
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Well, anything else?
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I think it's it.
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My name is Paul.
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My name's Clayton.
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And you've been listening to Beyond the Pullis.
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We'll catch you next time.