ABOUT THIS EPISODE
A few months ago, people were asking whether not using AI could ever be malpractice. Now, that question feels a lot less theoretical.
In this episode of Between the Briefs by Steno, Adrian Cea and Joe Stephens sit down with Shannon Boettjer, partner at Jaspan Schlesinger Narendran LLP, for a sharp, practical conversation on AI governance, legal risk, and what it means to build defensible systems before technology decisions turn into lawsuits.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why the AI conversation shifted from “should we use it?” to “how do we use it responsibly?”
- How the knife vs. kitchen analogy helps firms understand different levels of AI complexity
- Why AI governance should start with a risk-benefit analysis, not a checkbox list
- Why hallucinations are better understood as common side effects, not random surprises
- How “parallel from the start” can help firms avoid bad habits that compound at scale
- Why AI literacy is only the starting point, and AI fluency is the real goal
- Why lawyers need to understand the tools their teams, co-counsel, and vendors are using
- Why machines require a zero-trust approach, while humans require trust but verify
This episode is a clear-eyed look at legal AI adoption and the actual governance work required when lawyers start putting powerful tools into everyday practice.
54:03 Closing Thoughts
Quotes:
- “AI is a tool, and I think of it in terms of something like a knife.”
- “Every layer of AI potentially solves a problem and potentially creates risks.”
- “Start with literacy with the end goal of being fluent.”
- “Trust but verify your human colleagues. I would hold a different standard for working with machines: zero trust.”
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