What Are Your Top Five Values (part 1 of 2)

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My name, I am Gio Ramos.
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Yo, you keep laughing.
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You're in my Is it the Spanish is throwing you off?
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You're Latino, man, aren't you?
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Meaning of the Spanish.
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Yeah.
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It's my first language just yet.
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Okay, sorry.
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Numing.
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Is it your is it is it your first language too?
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Uh yeah, that was.
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And then I went to elementary school and immediately.
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And it became your second language?
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Yeah.
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Alright, bye, mi gente.
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My name is Gio Ramos.
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I'm here at the Vent Mark Studios from Creative Hope Studios.
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At some point, I'll stop introducing the fact that I'm from Creative Hope Studios.
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You guys will just pick up on it, alright?
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In the famous words of Jay-Z.
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Allow me to reintroduce myself.
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My name is I would like everybody in this room to go around and reintroduce yourselves for the good people in Podcastland.
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There may be some people who know exactly who you are because you've been on almost every episode.
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Or maybe some folks who haven't picked up on who you are yet, don't know you.
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So let's go around.
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Share your name and a recent goal that you crushed.
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A recent goal that you worked hard and crushed.
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So I'll go first.
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Once again, my name is Gio Ramos.
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A recent goal that I crushed was I started writing my book that I'm going to turn into a curriculum and take to schools all across America.
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Ladies, next.
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My name is Jelissa, and a recent a recent goal that I crushed was I finished all my work before bedtime.
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Hey, let's go.
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My name is Chance, and every single goal I have crushed is getting enough sleep a night.
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So around eight hours a night.
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Well, snap, is that hard for you?
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That's like really difficult for me.
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Really?
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I don't think I've gotten eight hours of sleep for since like elementary school.
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Wow.
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So this week has been honest, I feel really good.
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Dope, man.
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Congratulations, man.
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Thank you.
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Happy for you.
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Ty.
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Sorry.
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Oh, sorry.
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Um my name is uh Joe Ciel.
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And uh I guess the the most recent one I'd say is I hip thrusted 315 uh and repped it for 10.
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Tough.
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Congratulations.
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I finally reached uh Lydia's level.
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Lydia can hip thrust 315?
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Yes.
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I was very shocked.
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Oh my gosh.
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Full control and everything.
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I believe it, actually.
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That's powerful, man.
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Congrats.
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Thank you.
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That's fire.
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But I think I probably try to do more if I kept hip thrusting, but I haven't done it in a little bit.
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Like I said, that was like humble flex.
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I could probably do more.
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You know.
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I think if I actually continued doing it, I probably could, but I haven't done it in a little bit, so dude, that's awesome.
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315 we're talking about here.
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Yeah, that's a lot of weight.
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That's like two people.
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Crazy work.
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Um, I don't know if y'all know, but the name of benchmark, like that means like a goal that you hit that it becomes a mark that then you go on to the next goal.
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Um, so did you know?
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I didn't know.
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I think when you have a benchmark, it's usually something you hit and then go on to the next goal.
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You hit that, onto the next one.
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That's called a benchmark.
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Been here, sir for so long, and I have no idea.
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It actually makes a lot of sense.
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It makes so much sense.
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It makes so much sense.
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Right?
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That's benchmark.
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And that's what benchmark's all about, right?
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Like everybody out here just crushing goals and then moving to the next one.
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You go through the program, you become a stat.
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You become a stab, you become a mentor.
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You become a mentor, you you know what I'm saying?
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You just keep elevating.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Keep elevating, you just keep hitting benchmarks.
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So shout out to benchmark for having a name that's inspirational to all of us.
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Um, all right, so on today's episode, we're gonna talk about our personal values.
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All right, everybody is motivated by a set of values.
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We live our lives, we make decisions, we pick our friends, we pick romantic partners, we choose jobs, we make moves, we go to schools, we we take on a path based on our personal values.
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Before this episode started, I gave y'all a very long list of a bunch of values, and I asked y'all to pick your top five, which is what you have in front of you.
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So we're gonna go around and we're going to share what those five values that we are most driven by from that list.
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Some of you included like an extra one that you didn't see on the list that you're like, yeah, I'm really passionate about this one, so I'm gonna add this one, and that's dope.
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While you're sharing your values, I want you to like give a little explanation about why is that in your list of top fives?
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Why did you choose these five values?
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So I'll go last.
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Um, I'm gonna keep you going first because I'm a gentleman.
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Oh my mama raised me, right?
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Lovely, shout out to mom.
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So, what are your top five values and give us a little reason behind why you chose each of those?
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Yes, sir.
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So, one of my first values was equality, and equality is very, very heavy on like one of my morals, because I don't believe that you should treat anybody different based on anything, really.
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Facts.
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We're all humans, we all make mistakes.
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Just because you come out of different color than me doesn't mean nothing to me.
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Just because you come from a different part of the world don't mean nothing to me.
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Just because you were raised differently, that doesn't mean nothing to me.
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It just treat everybody the same as you would like to be treated.
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Doesn't matter.
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That's good.
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Um another one of my things, well, my second one would be understanding.
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And understanding is just important because you never really know what somebody's going through, and just understanding that they come to you as they are, and just understanding that they're people too.
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Like everybody's people, and understanding in any situation that we're just all people trying to make it through.
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That really is just like one of my big morals, just like we're all people, like we're just trying to do what we're trying to do.
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This is our first time living.
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Um The third one I have is hate, which is not on the list.
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But um hate is something that is so common, it's so normalizing, I don't think it should be, even though it is very normalized, and it's in places that you wouldn't necessarily think it is, and it's so normalized that people don't even realize they're doing it.
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So, like under like hate is just something that motivates me to be better.
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Because not everybody has to be hateful.
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You can break the cycle.
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Just being nice to that one hateful person can already change so much.
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I like how you kind of went on the reverse.
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You it's it's not a value of yours, but it's a value that you really try to live against is is what you're saying.
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Yes, sir.
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So I like that you did that.
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I don't think anybody in my time doing this exercise with different groups of people, I don't think anyone's ever gone on the reverse and talked about a value that they're very motivated to break.
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Yeah.
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Or to work against.
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Because it's just that's fire.
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It's very, very normalized.
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You it's a lot of places that you wouldn't think it is, it's very normalized in politics, just everyday life that it shouldn't be.
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Kinda should be very normalized.
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But that's a conversation for another day.
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Um accountability is very, very important to me.
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Um I'm not perfect at it, but I'm trying to get better at it.
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But accountability is really important because we're like I said, we're all humans, we make mistakes.
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But understanding that you made a mistake and coming to the fact of I made a mistake and I was wrong says and does so much because you can be wrong about so many things and so like confident that you were right about it, that you might have hurt the person's feelings on the way to proving yourself right.
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So even in that you were proven wrong, just taking accountability just it could be accountability in any sense though.
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Yeah.
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But that's a powerful one.
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That's on there.
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Yeah.
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And well, I think this would would be my favorite, my favorite, but like my first one, and it's gratitude.
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Just being grateful for everything that you have.
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Because you're grateful to even be alive right now.
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Just even to be taking the next breath is already enough.
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The being able to have a birthday is enough because not everybody makes it to your age.
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And having just gratitude that you're even that you have the ability to do certain things.
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You're able to walk, you're able to write with your hands, you're able to blink, you're able to see, you're able to hear, you're able to breathe.
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Like I already said breathe like three times, but you're able to you're able to see, you're able to taste, you're able to speak.
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That's a lot more than a lot of people can say.
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You know, you said breathe three times, but you saying breathe three times reminds me of how intentional we have to be with gratitude.
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It takes practice.
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You ever heard the story of um it's kind of like uh um it's kind of like a story people tell to teach on gratitude.
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How um I used to be jealous of the dude who could walk until how does it go?
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No, it's like it goes from you used to be it's it's like it goes from like top to bottom.
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So the man in the helicopter wishes he had a jet.
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The man in the car wishes he had a helicopter, the man on a bike wish he had a car.
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Yeah.
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The man who on the on the man who is walking wish he had a bike, the man who has no legs wish he could walk.
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Right.
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That part.
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You see that?
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Like, thanks for remembering.
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I couldn't remember the scale, but yeah, like those little things that while you're living your life and noticing all the things that are going wrong or missing, someone else is wishing they had your life.
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And so we could practice gratitude in that.
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Being grateful to even have the opportunity is enough.
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Yeah.
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So I want to ask you something real quick about your first value before we we move on.
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So, first of all, those that's a dope set of values.
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Is that everything that you had to say about your top five?
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Um, I would say so, yes.
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That's dope.
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That's dope.
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So in your first value, you said equality, and you mentioned like, I don't care where you're from, what color you are, your culture, your background, whatever, right?
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Um, I want to like ask about what you mean when you say you don't care.
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Some people can hear, I don't care what color you are, and they can hear that you don't see their culture, you don't see their color.
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But there are some of us who want to be seen for our culture, who want to be seen for our color.
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So when you say you don't care, what exactly do you mean by that?
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How does that inform the way you treat people?
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Um, I don't care.
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I don't care to me means it doesn't matter to me.
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Well, a better way to say it, to be more intentional with my words, would be no matter where you come from, to me I see you as a saint.
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You come as you are, you come as your morals.
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I judge you by your morals, not what you look like or where you come from or whatever else it may be.
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Yeah.
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Because you might have the best culture, you might have I love cultures.
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Yeah.
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But if you you could come from anywhere in the world, but you speak to me with disrespect, and that's already a red flag for me.
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So you could be brown, beige, purple for all I care, but the moment that you start showing me your morals is the moment that I judge you.
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Okay.
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That's dope.
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Thanks for clarifying that.
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I believed that's what you meant.
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Of course.
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However, you know, we live in a time where I don't know if you guys have ever heard the saying, I don't see color, when they talk about being anti-racist.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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But that's actually like not what we want.
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We want you to notice the skin color, the hair texture, the accent, the music, the flavor in the food, the smells of my house, like when I'm cooking.
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Notice it.
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Celebrate it with me, or at least accept it, but don't just ignore it and say you don't see it.
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Because I'm proud of my culture.
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Of course.
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I'm proud of my hair texture.
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I'm proud that sometimes I can't say words in English right and I have a weird accent and my family laughs at me.
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You know, I mean, I'm proud of all of it.
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Um, and so anyway, that's dope.
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Thank you for sharing your values.
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I got some other questions, but I want to like kind of hear from everybody what their values are, and then we'll start kind of like questioning some of these values.
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Um chance.
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All right, so these uh values aren't in any specific order, but uh the first one on the list would be patience.
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I do really value patience because it is one of those values where you I guess you can even say like has more values inside of it.
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If you are patient, you if you when you practice patience, you immediately become more kind to other people.
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When you practice patience, you like you can be closer to people, you can connect better with everyone around you because you are patient with them.
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It is if someone is angry at you and you are patient enough, you can avoid a problem altogether by just being calm and patient.
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My next one on this list, I value this one a lot too, would be hope.
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Um let's go being hopeful, I think, is actually one of the most important things a human can be, because especially like since the dawn of time, everything you could say has there has always been a problem.
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And I think that the only way you can overcome these problems is waking up and choosing to stay hopeful for a better day tomorrow.
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Um my next one would be morals.
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I have a set list of my own morals that I try to stay true to every single day, and it it's very difficult, but I'm getting better at it.
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Can I ask you a question about that one?
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Yeah.
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Where do you get your morals from?
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I at first I got my morals from religion.
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Okay.
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And as I grew older, I kind of I guess I kind of strayed away from that.
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But my morals, I got different ones as well.
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I I think the main way I got my morals was the way I like really grew up.
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And seeing like the people around me.
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And like, this is I do not want to act like this.
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I don't want to be like them.
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And I found myself becoming more and more like the things I said I didn't want to become like, and that kind of made me build my own morals, and made it gave me a thing set in stone to follow, and I cannot not follow these, or I will fall down the path the people around me have fallen that I so hoped to avoid.
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Yeah, I I I was hearing you talk about your your morals growing up and the things you didn't want to become, and I think it's kind of I think it's kind of beautiful that the value you just shared before that was hope.
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And you're saying you grew up watching what you didn't want to become.
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It sounds like that kind of instilled hope in you from an early age.
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You you noticed these things and you hoped you'd become something different.
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Yeah.
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So I don't think hope stays with you forever.
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I think it is something that you choose to have every single day you wake up.
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Because a person so hopeful can wake up tomorrow and choose to stay in bed rather than getting up and going about his day.
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My there's an uh other value is love.
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And I think this one actually ties in with patience really well.
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I think to love is to be patient, and to be patient is to love.
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So and I think if you love everybody around you, then you everything just will almost always go right.
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I don't think you should always though, like with like 100% love somebody, especially if well, they did something bad or like something really messed up.
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But I do think that it should always be in your heart for everyone, just in case.
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Yeah.
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And then the most important value on this list would be perseverance.
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Okay.
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I think that perseverance ties in everything I've said in so far together, um, and is kind of like the leader of all of these values, if that makes any sense.
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Because I think uh they all of these take time.
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It take it is a struggle to be patient, a struggle to be hopeful.
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It is a struggle to stay with your morals, and it is a struggle to love.
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So I think when you need to be you need to have perseverance to do all of these things.
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That is why it is my most uh uh valued value.
00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:51.599
Have has there ever been a time where you've lost perseverance where you just kind of reached a limit that gave up, and perseverance just was not in you anymore in that situation?
00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:52.160
Yes.
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100%.
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I I would say hundreds of times.
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But what's one of those situations that really stays with you?
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I guess I could go back to I guess looking around my the people I am I'm around, the in like bad environments.
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I kind of whenever I like I see them, it's like, am I just gonna end up like this?
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And I like I sometimes I've like honestly just accepted that I might.
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But there's always that next day where I choose to keep going and choose my hardest not to end up like that because that is something I just do not want.
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Especially because I want to have like a family in the future.
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I don't want to build that same environment for my family.
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And I mean there were times where I've stayed in those like um like uh hopeless states for probably like months.
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But there was always like one day that I chose that I need to get up and keep going.
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And I do think it only takes one day.
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Yeah.
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That's powerful, man.
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I don't think it's a coincidence.
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Your name is chance.
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You you you seem to really live up to your name.
00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:17.759
You give yourself a chance at life every day, like a blank slate.
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A lot of people carry the shame and the guilt from the day before, the pain from the day before into the next day.
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And I'm not saying you don't do that in some way, maybe you do, but it sounds like what you strive for is to give yourself and life a new chance every morning.
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That was bars.
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Bars.
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Bars.
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That's the rapper in me.
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I can't help it.
00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:39.519
Yo, from bars, yo.
00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:41.920
Yo.
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Maybe one of these days I'll rap on this podcast.
00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:46.160
Oh, yes, I think we should.
00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:47.440
All of those group rap.
00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:48.240
Oh, let's do it.
00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:49.119
You go first, right?
00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:49.440
Yeah.
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Oh, don't.
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So stop right now.
00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:51.039
No, I'm playing.
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I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing.
00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:52.400
Okay.
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Well, chance, thank you for sharing your five values, man.
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Um, that's really powerful stuff.
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Can I say one more thing?
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Absolutely, please.
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Um, I think when all of these are like tie together, I think that you can even so you don't they don't have to be for yourself.
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I think that you can try to inspire people to live up to their own sets of values and stay hopeful and also be uh I know there's a word for it, but also be like perseverance.
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I don't I don't I don't know the word.
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But to also have perseverance.
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Determination?
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No, not determination.
00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:39.279
But it's like Like when you're like when you're trying to do it for others, you're saying inspiration?
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No, I've already said that.
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I no, there there's I know there's a better word, I just can't think of it right now.
00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:54.160
But I'm all I'm saying is like I think that when you do have all these, you can inspire people to be hopeful and to have perseverance.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:59.759
There's a saying, and if you remember.
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Nothing else from this conversation, remember this values are often caught and rarely taught.
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Bars.
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Bars again.
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See, I didn't even come up with that one, but like, you know, I mean, I'll take credit for how I said it.
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You know what I mean?
00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:19.759
Um, yeah, that the values are caught.
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People will know what you value by how you live, how you react to stuff, the way you move and shift in life.
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You could talk all day about a value that you have and not live by it.
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Everyone around you is gonna look at you like, yeah, that's cap.
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You don't live by that.
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You are the you are the biggest hater.
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How do you value uh you know equality?
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You hate everything.
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Is it a shape?
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:47.920
Yo, is it a shape?
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I mean, no, you were just a malice.
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Okay, said some very mean things to me off camera.
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Dang!
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Um Alright, Joseon.
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Your top five values, tell us what they are and and and why you chose them.
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Uh my number one right now is uh hope.
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Because I feel like without hope, we can't really like you know vision what we like want to be.
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:30.400
Like, and you know, like hope to see like, I don't know, like another like thing that might happen in like, you know, in someone's life or something.
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:39.680
Like when I was a bit younger, I'd always hoped to be like, you know, a better like person than like what I was like like days before.
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And uh eventually, you know, I did, you know, became a you know, a better version of myself by like hoping and actually like going through with it.
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That's one of the reasons why I'm here now.
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:58.400
But um my second one is uh wisdom.
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Because I feel like with wisdom people can like say something, but they don't really know what it means sometimes.
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And I feel like with wisdom, you can like say it, understand it, and like keep going with it.
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:15.279
Yeah.
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Like, let me we used to have a saying for people like that growing up.
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So many people say they're talking out their butt.
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That's the PG version, because some kids might be watching.
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And I feel like with like age also comes with like with wisdom.
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Because and sometimes, you know, it also is just like life experiences.
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So am I the wisest person in this room right now?
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.839
No, I wouldn't wisdom comes with age.
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I think I'm the boldest person in here.
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Talking out your butt.
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Horribly.
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I'm only gonna keep the part where I say I'm the wisest one.
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I'm just um I feel like it really is like depending on how someone was treated, they're they're like wiser than like some people.
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:10.240
You okay there?
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:12.480
You see me do it all the time.
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:13.759
Yeah, but I'm just wondering.
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Like yes, I'm fine.
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Do you have a problem?
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Do we have a problem?
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:20.720
Anyway, so hold up.
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Go keep going with that thought.
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:30.960
Okay, because some people like you know, didn't ha like I said before, like on hope, they didn't have like the best like childhood.
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:37.279
So they're a little more like you know, like they probably experienced, you know, quite a bit in life already.
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:45.279
So they're a little more like I guess like when they get older and start experiencing more things, they become more wise, like on it or whatever.
00:25:45.519 --> 00:26:00.319
And when so it comes to like, you know, so like it being someone else's problem, like they have enough wisdom to like, you know, like tell them about like what they went through and you know, what like might be able to help them like get through it like easier.
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:01.440
It makes sense.
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:11.680
Uh would you rather would you rather learn how to climb a mountain from someone who's climbed the mountain a hundred times or from someone who's read a hundred books about climbing mountains?
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.759
Who would with actual experience to do with the actual experience?
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.279
The guy who's actually climbed a hundred mountains, because he's been through it.
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:23.599
Yeah, he knows the ins and outs, he knows the pitfalls.
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:25.279
That's that's dope, man.
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:26.319
What else you got?
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.640
Um the next one is growth.
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:31.680
Sorry.
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.160
That's why you hip thrusting 315 pounds.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:34.799
Exactly.
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:35.920
Trying to get them gains.
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Growth.
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:37.279
Okay.
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:44.720
Because with growth or whatever, you know, it it could come in many ways.
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.240
You know, intelligence, strength.
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:51.519
Um, that's all I got.
00:26:53.200 --> 00:27:02.799
A lot of people, you know, have some really bad habits and they eventually realize it, and then they're like, maybe I need to stop doing this because it's becoming an addiction.
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:11.440
And it just like it, yes, it is difficult, but once you grow out of it, you look back at it and you're like, I've become a better person.
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.599
I've grown as a person and become a better version of myself.
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:29.119
So you you were motivated to make changes physically and emotionally because you saw your health declining, but you also like among peers and friends, you were feeling it emotionally by the way people were cheating you.
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:30.400
That makes sense.
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:31.200
That makes sense.
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:35.839
And you know, as you know, now I can hip thrust 315.
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:37.839
That's growth right there.
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.039
That's right, that's right, that's right.
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:51.039
Yeah I I went from like getting bullied by like an entire class in science class in like sixth grade to now being able to hip thrust three six like three fifteen.
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:52.960
You you could you could hip thrust all of them.
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:53.759
Yeah.
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:00.480
Um well dope, man.
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:01.200
Congratulations.
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:06.079
I just you know want to pause and say, like, yo, like that's something that not a lot of people could do.
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:18.079
Change their bodies from one state to another so that they could feel healthy and so that they could, you know, love themselves better.
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.160
And so, congrats, kudos to you.
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:21.920
That takes a lot of strength, no pun intended.
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.119
Literally, it takes strength, emotional strength as well as physical strength.
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.440
Um, what else you got on your list?
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:28.559
Loyalty.
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:34.480
It takes time to truly trust someone, like, and actually give them your time.
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:43.440
Cause, you know, you don't have a lot of that like when you get older, and it's like very precious of like a thing.
00:28:43.759 --> 00:29:05.599
And if you can have someone in your corner where like they're loyal enough to like stay with you through thick and thin, yeah, then I feel like that is like a true like friend, partner, family, like however you see them, like it's it's like a good feeling to know you're like like they're very loyal.
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:06.079
Yeah.
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:09.039
It uh you feel chosen.
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:09.519
Exactly.
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:10.880
It's like And that's a good feeling.
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.240
We all want to feel chosen.
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:18.240
It's really nice knowing that like you can like be there for them and they can be there for you.
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.440
My last one is uh Justice.
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:23.440
Um what's her name?
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:24.559
Lindsay Clancy.
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:25.519
Okay, thank you.
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:26.640
That was very fast.
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.799
Um she had recently, you know, done something bad.
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:34.240
I'd rather not go into it, just research it later.
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:53.920
Um but she had done something very bad or whatever, and I truly think that, you know, there should be justice to that, like, you know, thing that she did, because it was very awful, yeah, and requires I'd probably say a life sentence.
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.559
Yeah, she I mean this is so off topic.
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:08.799
The whole thing is that like the court is giving her justice, however, the people outside of the court are not, and they're being supportive of a woman who killed her kids.
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.480
But um keep going.
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:13.039
Okay.
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:27.519
So so you're feeling like the the outcome of her case is in your opinion, not providing justice where it deser where it deserves to be directed.
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.640
So it might be justice for for someone, but it's not actual justice for someone else.
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:33.119
Exactly.
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:40.160
And that's where you're feeling like it's a high value of yours to have justice be spread out for all parties, not just one person.
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:40.799
Exactly.
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:46.559
Because when one person like succeeds, another person suffers from it.
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.960
Or at least I s sometimes.
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:50.640
Yeah, I I get what you're saying.
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.200
Yeah.
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.920
It's like the like take from the rich, give to the poor.
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:56.799
Yeah.
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:03.440
Like the rich, I mean, yeah, a little bit of money was taken from them, but the poor at least have something, you know.
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:05.200
Well, I look at it in the reverse.
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.240
While the rich have been rich, the poor have been living with nothing.
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:08.720
Exactly.
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.200
And I feel like that in and of itself is an injustice.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:11.839
Exactly.
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:18.720
That somebody can have an overabundance while someone else has barely enough to live on.
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.799
The injustice actually started before the rich person was robbed.
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.079
For the you know what I'm saying?
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:28.079
So sorry.
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.160
I can't I can catch it about that stuff.
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:32.640
That's what's up.
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:33.359
No, I like that.
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.759
I'm gonna I'm gonna zoom in and echo that part, that part, that part, that part.
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:40.559
Um, dope.
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:42.880
Is that is that everything that you want to share about your values?
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:43.599
Thank you, man.
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.160
Thank you so much um for sharing your values.
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:50.319
Um I'll I'll share mine, my top five values.
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.960
Uh so at the top, I put peace.
00:31:53.440 --> 00:32:00.559
I am very passionate about protecting my peace and keeping the peace and creating peace.
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.720
Um, my wife has this uh thing that she speaks on called dishonest harmony.
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:08.960
So both of us are speakers.
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:21.279
We travel, we do motivational speaking, and you know, we train teachers, we train staff, we train different leaders, and we train on this idea that you could have like a pretend peace.
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.039
Like it's not real peace.
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:28.079
There's things that y'all ain't saying, there's things y'all ain't talking about, but y'all are just pretending to get along.
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.240
That's called dishonest harmony.
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:31.519
You know what I'm talking about?
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:39.279
You sit at the lunch table with that friend, you hate that person, or you hate what they're about, or you hate their patterns in life, but you ain't talking about it.
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.799
You're just kind of like living in peace, keeping the peace.
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.480
But really, one of you is living in peace and one of you is not.
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:54.880
One of you has this inner turmoil that bothers you because you want to talk about this thing that the other person does, but you don't talk about it.
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.440
Um, and so you live in turmoil.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.799
The other person gets to live in peace, though, because you're not ruffling feathers.
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.799
You're not bringing up that hot topic.
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.920
You're keeping the peace, but it's not true peace.
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.480
I'm very passionate about true peace.
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.640
Uncomfortable conversations need to happen sometimes, and they're hard.
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.720
100% agree with you.
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:15.680
You agree with that?
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:16.319
Yes.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.519
Do you feel like you usually engage the hard conversation or do hard conversations come to you?
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:26.960
I either way, I want them to come to me and I want to engage in them all of the time.
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:27.839
That's dope.
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:38.799
Because I mean, and now, like in recent times, words have been getting censored because they make people uncomfortable when that is the exact reason why they are used to bring awareness to these horrible things.
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.000
Yeah, you can't grow if you're comfortable.
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:42.640
You cannot.
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.799
And if a conversation makes you uncomfortable, guess what it's gonna produce?
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:47.680
Growth.
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.759
It's gonna make you a better person.
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.480
And it's gonna suck going through it, it really is.
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.279
Yeah, and you want to talk about accountability.
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.319
Accountability is the most uncomfortable conversation one can have.
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.559
To take ownership for a mistake I made.
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.039
It is because humans want to be right all the time.
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:04.640
We want to be perfect.
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.239
But understanding, like I said, that we're all humans.
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:08.559
Yeah.
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:09.760
We're gonna make mistakes.
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.880
This is your first time living, just as it's my first time living.
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:20.079
So you might be on a different path of your life and you might think you know everything, but I'm on a different path in my life, and I might think I know everything.
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.239
The whole time it's a whole different truth.
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.239
And now we gotta apologize to each other because we were sitting there saying all the different types of mean stuff to each other because we thought we were right.
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:28.960
Yeah.
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:29.679
Exactly.
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.440
It's the most ironic part, too.
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:36.400
It's like the best way to be perfect is to admit that you are wrong.
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:37.440
Perfect.
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:38.000
Bars.
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.360
Yo, let's go.
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.360
Chance just dropped the pen.
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:46.480
You didn't drop the mic.
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:47.760
These mics cost a lot of money.
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.079
You ain't dropping mics, but we could drop the pen.
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.760
That was that was dope.
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:52.960
That that was dope.
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:53.440
I like that.
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:54.239
Don't do that.
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.320
I'm not gonna actually like drop it.
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.320
So, anyway, top value for me is peace.
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.159
Second value, love.
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:08.800
I am a huge believer, and I know this is a conversation for another day.
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.840
Um, I'm a huge believer in God's love for all of mankind.
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:26.800
Um, I have been rescued, I have been captivated, I have been um restored by the love of God, and I could talk about it another day and in another setting.
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:32.880
But there is a literal reality for me, and that is that I should not be here.
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:34.880
I should not be here.
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:41.039
I shouldn't be alive, I shouldn't be a free man, I shouldn't be a committed husband, I shouldn't be a loving father.
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.320
There are committed husband, you shouldn't be a committed husband.
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.480
So, what I mean by I shouldn't be is that there are there are statistics.
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.519
I'm playing, I'm playing, I know.
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:56.800
There are statistics that say I should be a lot of terrible things.
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.000
I should also be an abuser like my father was.
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.360
I should also be in and out of jail.
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:09.760
I should I should have followed in a lot of footsteps of the line of men that I come from.
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.199
Um anyway, I shouldn't be here.
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:17.440
And it is because of the love of God that I'm here.
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.960
And so, again, that's another conversation and a lot to unpack.
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:29.119
Um, and I know that the topic of religion is very controversial, um, but I'm down to have the uncomfortable conversation about my belief in God's love.
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.440
I really want to talk about it.
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:32.239
Let's do it.
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:35.679
Chance and I are gonna have that conversation, y'all.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:36.159
Let's do it.
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:36.559
Right now.
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:37.440
I'm here for it.
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.320
Um, right now.
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:40.639
Okay.
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:49.920
So also, um, so that is a vertical love that I'm that I place in high value, but also a horizontal love.
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.920
Um, love among all people.
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.840
I do believe that love really does heal all things.
00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:02.320
Um there could be things that hurt, there could be things that trip us up, there could be things that divide.
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:09.119
Um, and I really do believe that love could bind people amidst our differences.
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.679
Not that we mute our differences, right?
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:23.840
Not that we change who we are at our core, but that we um love one another for who we are at our core, if that makes sense.
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.119
Um faith is a big one for me.
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.039
Ironically, you know, love and faith.
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.159
The reason I value love is because of my faith.
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.199
Um, I'm very moved to become the man I am because of my faith.
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.159
Um, I'm very inspired by my faith.
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.559
I'm very um shaped by my faith.
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.000
And so that's a high value for me.
00:37:50.159 --> 00:38:03.679
Um I while I don't impose my faith on other people and I don't like, you know, force it down people's throats, um I have a very deep conviction about what I believe and I live and I live by it, I stand on it.
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.400
Um and I'm willing to live and die for it.
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.880
Like I believe in in what I believe that strongly.
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:15.039
Um because I have seen the goodness of God in my time.
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.000
And so for me, it's like a very deep reality.
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:23.599
Um, like some of you, um, gratitude is a fourth value for me.
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:30.800
Um, I have learned to really live life to the fullest through gratitude.
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:38.639
When you appreciate what you have, you stop thirsting for what you don't have, you stop envying, you stop being jealous, you stop hating on people.
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.079
You actually live your life when you practice gratitude um deeply.
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.519
And so gratitude is a high value for me.
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.519
Um, people who are ungrateful, like I struggle with people who are ungrateful.
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.360
I think most people do.
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.119
Because I feel like there's a lot of people that are oh sorry, yeah.
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.519
I feel like there's a lot of people that are very uh ungrateful, you know.
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:06.559
I've I've experienced I mean you wanted me to be close, I'm very close, you know.
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:09.440
I'm sorry, is there a problem?
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:10.480
Just keep talking.
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:11.679
Keep going, keep going.
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:13.199
There's a lot of people who are ungrateful.
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:13.920
Yes, okay.
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.280
And I've experienced, you know, people who are very ungrateful.
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.639
And, you know, I truly do not like it.
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.199
Because I went out of my way to get you something.
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:29.039
Like, for instance, let's say, like, I don't know, like, I go to the corner store or something and get you a drink, and you're just like, I don't want it.
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.639
It's like it's not what I wanted.
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.239
It's like, I mean, you don't have to be like ungrateful about it.
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:35.840
I still got you something.
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:36.480
You know?
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.239
Not that anybody asked, but I think that's one of my pet peeves.
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:41.840
Like ungrateful people.
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:42.320
Yes.
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:48.079
Like, not even in the context of I got you something and you were ungrateful, the fact that I got it.
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:57.280
Just like people who are so ignorant to everything they have and how blessed they are, that that annoys me.
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:02.960
That that really annoys me because I I'm blessed enough to have everything that I have.
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:04.079
I really am.
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:09.039
I'm I'm spoiled, but I I I really hope that I don't come off a spoiled garden.
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:16.960
But I think that there's a lot of people out there that think that everything they have is a given right.
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:18.559
And it's a privilege.
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.000
It's a privilege to have anything that you have.
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.159
There's people out there that have the littlest crumbs and they're grateful to have it.
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:31.760
And there's people out there who have everything they could ever want in the world and they still want more.
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:38.960
Some people are so poor that all they have is money.
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:42.960
I'm trying to understand it.
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:44.400
I think I kinda understand it.
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:45.920
Yeah, I I love that quote a lot.
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:47.119
That was actually a really good clip.
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.599
Some people are so poor that all they have is money.
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:58.239
Though I don't I don't think we should be disres like I don't think we should just dismiss those people who don't have that gratitude.
00:40:58.559 --> 00:40:59.760
Hold on, say that, say that again.
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:03.840
I don't think we should just dis completely dismiss these people who aren't grateful.
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.039
I think rather we should try to teach them how to be.
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.519
Because we understand what it is like to be grateful, why not share it with others?
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:13.519
Try and think about it like that.
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:16.480
You gotta be hard.
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:18.159
I love that doing that.
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:22.800
Come on.
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.920
Go ahead, say more about that.
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:25.360
Um I I don't know.
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.719
I think it's just again, this goes to being patient with people.
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:44.960
If we can just be patient with the people who are ignorant, I think eventually we can may like we can help them see what they have and what what like things are really like.
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:45.840
Yeah.
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.880
And I mean you know, and what if there's a reason why they're like that?
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:50.320
You never know.
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:50.880
Right.
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.360
And there could always be like the way they grew up.
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:56.320
Yeah.
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:57.440
Yeah.
00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:59.840
We're we're all conditioned by our environment.
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:08.800
And if somebody if you meet somebody at the point where they are ungrateful, they've arrived to this point through some kind of conditioning.
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:15.199
And I say that to say people can be reconditioned.
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:16.400
You know what I mean?
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:16.880
100%.
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.840
People could learn new patterns, people could learn new habits.
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.760
Do you know that our brains literally learn how to learn?
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.480
Yeah, we like they rewire every second.
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:26.880
Yeah.
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:27.840
That's nuts.
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:29.760
Like every brain is gonna be just nuts.
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.840
Your brain is constantly getting rid of, yo, what are you doing?
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.079
Dude, literally like you're on camera.
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:36.719
Right.
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:46.480
Um your brain actually gets rid of the stuff it doesn't need and then regenerates new stuff.
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:57.599
Um and so if that's the case, to your point, we come across somebody who's ungrateful, there's an opportunity there to model something.
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.440
You know, back to that saying earlier, values are caught, not taught.
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:07.280
You could tell somebody to their face, you could scream it at them, you could shove it down their throat.
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.440
Be grateful, be grateful, be grateful.
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:11.519
You're so ungrateful, you're so ungrateful.
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:12.400
Tell me something.
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:18.320
Has a teacher or an adult yelling at you, telling you, and shaming you for what you're not ever helped you want to change?
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:19.519
Never in my life.
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:20.079
No.
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:20.800
None of us.
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:36.639
But how do you like the only way I'm thinking about approaching that is but there's some like say if it's the example of someone getting a necklace and it's gold and they say but I want it silver.
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.400
But then you show them someone who does not have a necklace at all.
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:48.320
What if you don't have the example of that and saying that sometimes people don't even have a necklace?
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:50.639
Yeah, like what if all your friends have a necklace?
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.480
Because who doesn't have a necklace be the same?
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:57.599
I th uh I would think.
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:20.159
I think I would argue that showing someone real examples of like you know, like maybe like going to like a different like a poorer community would help someone in a very wealthy community realize that what they have should not be taken for granted, especially if they've never seen a poorer community.
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:20.880
Very true.
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:22.559
I'll share my last value.
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.440
Um my last value is justice.
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:27.599
Um I think that was also yours.
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.800
So when you said it, I kind of like perked up and was interested.
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.639
Um, because for a lot of the same reasons, I I believe in justice.
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:43.440
Um and I also believe that justice should be pursued um at both ends.
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:44.480
At both ends.
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:52.000
So that example I gave earlier, right, when we talk about like if somebody rot robs a rich person to give to the poor, should that person be punished?
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.280
Well, why aren't we taking a step back and asking the question, why was there somebody poor to begin with?
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.559
And where could justice address that?
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:02.639
Right?
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.159
Um It's crazy how relevant that is right now.
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:06.800
Right?
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.880
There's always that's a that's for a different time because I could go about that all day.
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:20.239
But I would love to open that up because I think if we look around, we can find injustices all around us.
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:36.320
But we usually don't call for justice until it's too late, until the person who's been unjustly treated reacts, right, or desperately reaches for what they need, and then we're punishing that.
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:37.599
That part.
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.320
So a quick little story of what I mean.
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:52.159
I don't know if you guys have heard about the Little Rock Nine in Arkansas, back um when schools were desegregating, meaning when they were being more inclusive of black students and white students in the same building.
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:59.119
Um, there's a school, Little Rock Central High School, in Little Rock, Arkansas, that was like the first school to desegregate.
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:06.559
These nine students were the first nine students, black students, to go into an all-white school to desegregate it.
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:22.159
And they were wildly mistreated, not just by their peers, but by teachers, the community, even the officers that were there to quote, keep the peace, they were actually making it very difficult for these nine students to even enter the school.
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:22.960
Right?
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:30.800
So long story short, they eventually were able to get into the school through the backing of military support and the president at the time.
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.239
But once they were in the school, they were bullied.
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.400
They were mistreated within the walls.
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.199
Because now they got in the building, but that doesn't mean it got easy for them.
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.760
But was that wasn't that the plan?
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.559
Like not the plan, but what didn't they have known that was gonna happen?
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.559
Yeah, because at first they they first desegregated school.
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:50.960
Yeah.
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:56.800
Putting these black children in front of all these white children who have never been around black kids.
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:02.320
It goes to show the courage of these nine students who stepped up to the plate.
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:03.599
Because they knew that was coming.
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:05.280
Did they have escorts in school?
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:05.920
No.
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:06.880
Yeah, no.
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:07.920
Crazy work.
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:08.480
Yeah.
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:09.760
So they got bullied.
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.000
Well, one of those nine students got tired of it and fought back.
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.480
She was punished for fighting back.
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:19.760
But the injustice was happening all year long.
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.280
She was being bullied.
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.440
She was being harmed.
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.519
And there was no response from the school.
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.159
But the moment she fought back, she gets suspended.
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:36.239
So you see, injustice shows up long before we start calling for justice.
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:37.519
We just gotta look for it.
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.519
So for me, justice is a big one.
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:52.400
Um, I'm I'm I feel like I am moved by looking for where are the injustices happening, especially for people who look like me, especially for people with stories like mine, especially with people who are at my level of life.
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:52.960
Right?
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:59.199
I can't speak to people in other contexts, I can't speak to people in other countries, I can speak to the people that I could look at.
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:07.760
And if I see injustices, I want to be part of the change that corrects the injustice before a bigger call to justice has to happen.
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:08.800
Does that make sense?
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.400
Um because it should have never been happening in the first place.
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:12.880
Right.
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:13.599
Right.
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:21.440
Because it just all seems like with it just with injustices, it just all seems so black and white that it's like the answer is always just so obvious.
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:22.960
Well, some cases.
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.320
So I'm gonna just say some cases blanket statement.
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:32.559
But yeah, there's a lot that goes on that just seems so obvious.
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:33.519
Yeah.
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:36.960
But it's only obvious because you have eyes for it.
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:41.599
We have a heart for it, we have compassion, we have logic.
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:50.880
But then again, people see that on the opposite side of the spectrum, and they just have no sympathy for it, and it doesn't affect them, so they don't care.
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:56.559
Yeah, their hearts might be hardened, their eyes might be closed, they might have apathy, right?
00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:01.519
We're over here fighting for empathy, but there's people on the other side fighting with apathy.
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:03.599
They couldn't care less.
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.679
Um, and so it's on us, it's on us to live by these values.
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:13.119
Um, it's on us to know what our values are, it's on us to find shared values with our people, right?
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:19.840
So even during this conversation, there were some values that we all share, um, and some values that were very different.
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:28.719
So, what I'd like to do right now, um, I'd like to um make this part one of a two-part conversation.
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.000
Um, you know, because I do believe we could go deeper.
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:43.280
I believe we could really unpack how do we coexist with our different values, and then how do we lean on our shared values?
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.760
And I think that's gonna be part two of our conversation.
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.960
Mi gente, thank you so much for tuning in.
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:53.280
Thank you so much for um holding space for this conversation.
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Um, I want to thank all of y'all for being vulnerable, for being honest, for being amazing human beings.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Yeah, of course, of course.
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I want to thank Benchmark Studios, want to thank Creative Hope Studios, want to thank Benchmark Program, um, everybody who was involved in making this possible.
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Huge shout out to Cody, our sound tech and our camera guy who uh doesn't get any airtime, but we wouldn't have airtime if it wasn't for him.
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So, shout out to Cody.
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Thank you for making this happen for us.
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Until the next one, keep it.