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Speaker 1: Who do you think is the biggest injury out of the guys I just ripped off?
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Speaker 2: I mean, by far, in my opinion, it has to be Caleb Williams because they're the team that has the biggest aspirations, right? Welcome to the Bart and Willie show episode.
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Speaker 1: What number is this?
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Speaker 2: It don't matter.
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Speaker 1: It don't matter. Trace, whatever. Trace, as Bart would say.
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Speaker 2: A lot to talk about in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Crazy weekend.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but we've lost some very good quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: In the league. And it's going to be interesting.
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Speaker 3: We always like to start Monday's show off with dumping in a bucket. We spend two minutes ranting and raving about anything and everything. That's on our mind, heart, and chest. I'm going to go. You want to go first or you want me to go first?
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Speaker 2: Please, indulge. I'm going to go first.
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Speaker 1: You ready? Are we doing the buzzer? There's no buzzer.
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Speaker 4: You want buzzer?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can rock the buzzer.
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Speaker 4: Let's rock the buzzer.
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Speaker 2: We'll go ahead and start talking, and he'll throw me the buzzer. So this happens. So a couple things.
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Speaker 3: One, if you go to a restaurant that has a kid's menu, you should not be annoyed that there's kids in the restaurant. So I got a call yesterday while we were on air, while we were halftime, because I know you were traveling back from the stadium. So my wife calls me, and she goes, I just want to talk to you because I got to come down.
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Speaker 1: I got to breathe a little bit. I'm like, what's going on?
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Speaker 3: So, supposedly, after church, my family's having brunch, and my son is at the table doing, you know, just being a kid, right? Talking loud or whatever, whatever. Some woman next to him, right? Some white woman, to be honest. I know race shouldn't matter, but I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Going to let it.
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Speaker 2: Karen. Just say Karen.
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Speaker 1: We know you, and you got to say white. Bro, the woman taps my son on the shoulder, though.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you touched somebody's kid.
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Speaker 1: Yes, mother.
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Speaker 3: She tapped my son on the shoulder and was like, you're talking too loud.
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Speaker 1: You need to be calm.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So not even that, bro.
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Speaker 1: So my wife, so my wife, so what happens, Mike, so my son, he, you know, it's an adult. You know, he's six years old. He retreats.
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Speaker 3: He puts his head on the table. There's three adults at the table. It's my wife, my sister-in-law, and her cousin. And so my son is now like, you know, he feels bad. So my wife is, at this point, she done fucked the wrong one. So my wife goes nuclear on this lady. And the lady starts getting scared and she retreats a little bit. But I just thought to my, and my wife wanted to do more. And I was just, and I'm glad she didn't. But to say all that, I think adults, when they go to these restaurants, and if you're annoyed with the presence of kids around you, First of all, that's your fault, right? Because if there's an option for chicken tenders, french fries, a small pizza, and a macaroni cheese, kids are going to be there. Now, I am the type of parent, I do not believe my kids should interfere with your experience or what you got going on at your table.
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Speaker 1: I don't allow my kids to run through the house.
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Speaker 3: I do not allow my kids to, you know, like sometimes look over and bother you while you're eating.
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Speaker 2: Because sometimes if you're in a conversation with whoever, you don't want some kid kind of nagging. So I'm very, I monitor my kids.
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Speaker 3: But I also know some folks don't monitor their kids. But I'm also conscious, if you don't want to be around kids, don't go to a kid-friendly restaurant. So it was interesting that adults at this stage... And I asked my wife, I was like, how old was she? She was like, Willie, this was a grown woman. She looked like she could have been in her 50s. And I guess the lady was at brunch with her mother. And the mother, to my wife's... My wife's telling me the story. the grandmother, whoever she was, was trying to kind of temper the situation. And I could hear, but you know how somebody's so mad you could hear them shaking over the phone?
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Speaker 2: Because you know, usually, even if you touch my kid, that usually comes with an ass kicking.
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Speaker 1: And you feel like, man, I got to go back. I let this Karen punk me.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, I tell people all the time, you pull your camera out if you want to. I'm not that type of black guy. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to film you back. I'm going to beat the dog out of you. I'm going to dog walk you. And then we hope that I in the sky show what happened because I don't give a fuck. Sue me, go to prison, whatever. I'm going to put these holy hands on your ass. I just couldn't, like, the audacity.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: And I understand because of social media and whatever. I think people are just, they've lost the nerve when it comes to kids. But to touch somebody else's kid It's absolutely, it was atrocious. So that's what I'm dumping in a bucket. Keep your hands off the other people's kids. If you don't like being around kids, don't go to kid-friendly places, and you won't have those issues.
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Willie, because my kids are older than yours, right? And that grandmother knew that that daughter that touched your son was once a kid.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes when we're so far removed.
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Speaker 2: From being a kid or having kids, we forget how difficult it is to be a parent and trying to control a kid and making kids understand timing.
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Speaker 1: You're raising your kids. So you're teaching them manners.
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Speaker 2: You're teaching them how you're supposed to behave in certain places and stuff like that. And you only do that by putting them in those environments and experiences. Like I'm never the guy that's going to trip when I'm on an airplane and a kid is on there and he's crying. Because I don't know what that kid is dealing with. I don't know if it's ears, he can't, you know, the air pressure, if they can understand that.
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Speaker 4: The kid doesn't know what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Yes, being confined in a tube. So I'm never the guy that's going to complain. And if I hear somebody complaining, I'm going to say something. You know what I'm saying? Because we all got to be tolerant of each other because we're all in different processes and different stages of our lives. she's better than me, bro. Like... Well, she.
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Speaker 1: I could tell... She felt.
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Speaker 2: Like she could.
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Speaker 1: She wanted to go back and find this person.
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Speaker 2: And she wanted, like, if she can do some celebrity boxing, sign a waiver, you can't sue my husband. She won't put them holy hands. She want to baptize that bitch. I guarantee you. I already know. And my wife just left church. So having God on your heart... God's not giving me the spirit of fear.
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Speaker 3: And I could hear in her voice, like, I've seen my wife... in the last two years go nuclear. She's always up my ass and bothering, yelling at me. But to see somebody where they're like, well, if my wife is yelling, that's her calm. If she's quiet, that's her kill mode.
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Speaker 4: That's the eye of the storm right there.
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Speaker 3: That's her.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring Willie down.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Bring Willie down.
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Speaker 1: See, I had something that I was about to, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: What I was going to say, what I was going to dump in the butt, because it was a pretty tired day, but really brought up a period of mine, right? So I was traveling and I had somebody traveling with me and we were going and my biggest issue is on a plane when people think that their time is more important than yours. Now, I'm landing and I'm late. I mean, I'm running late because the plane is late and I got to go shoot live on TV. And I'm not the person that say, excuse me, can I get to the front? Nothing like that, right? What I hate is when somebody all the way in the back of the plane... Like 31B, you know what I'm saying? You touching the bathroom. And I'm in like, I think I was in first class, right? And all I hear is like, because I always got my earphones on, one, because I don't want nobody to talk to me sometimes, but two, I can be observant because people think I got the ears on, but I really sometimes don't have sound on, but I can hear everything, right? So like, all I'm hearing is commotion, like, excuse me, excuse me.
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Speaker 1: And it's this dude, he like, bum-rushing by everybody, right? And so I'm like, nah, nah, brother. I'm already late.
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Speaker 2: And now this dude think he getting to the front? So we all standing up. And I'm the type of dude that don't stand up because it's stupid. Well, I'm going to stand up when I know it's already a big-ass crowd. I know I ain't going nowhere. I hate when people do that on the airplane. Like, everybody got to get up as soon as the plane. Bro, they ain't even brought the thing to connect to the plane yet. A lot of times you do that too fast, they make you sit back down. Right, they ain't unlocked anything. But everybody up. But I'm in the aisle, right? So then all I hear, I hear all this commotion, right? So I'm like, I see him too.
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Speaker 1: Like, not today, brother. Especially not when I'm late, bitch. So I stand up, right?
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Speaker 2: So I stand up.
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Speaker 1: So you swell up on him.
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Speaker 2: No, no, I stand up. So seriously, he was like, so I stand in the middle of the aisle. He give me a, excuse me, brother. I say, no, brother.
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Speaker 1: I say, man, you got to wait just like me.
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Speaker 2: He's like, excuse me. So then I'm like, hold up, brother. I put that chicken wing out there. No, no, no, for the back. I put it out there, but it's strong as hell. You know what I'm saying? He's like... Oh, so you're saying it's bone-in?
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Speaker 4: Bone-in?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I'm sitting, nah, nah, and swallowing up the lats like I'm doing, like I'm on, like, the Arnold Classic. Like Bolo from Bloodsport.
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Speaker 4: Like the chick from High Rocks that's gonna shit herself.
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Speaker 1: So I turn around, right? Like, brother, you're gonna wait just like everybody else, bro. He's over there, like.
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Speaker 2: This is a straight white, no, he like a dude like scruffy beard, had the fat goose coat on from Harlem. What's up, son? Yeah, he went, I'm a thug. So he bullied all these people going by, pushing old people, scooting them by and all that type of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, hell no. So I turn around.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you're going to wait just like everybody else. Your time ain't no more important than mine. He start clapping, right? Yo, what's up, son? I say, man, this ain't what you want. You know what I'm saying? Then he started to act like he reached into the stage like, bro, we all got cleared by TSA. You ain't got nothing, dog. You know what I'm saying? Willie, when I tell you I picked this motherfucker up and pinned him against, like, you know the top of the plane?
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Speaker 1: This is in the plane?
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Speaker 2: In the plane.
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Speaker 1: Wait, you did this?
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Speaker 2: Yes. I picked this motherfucker up and pinned him up and then bent him over the seat like this.
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Speaker 1: Like, man, I say, motherfucker, this ain't what you want.
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Speaker 2: Trust me. And the fucking flight attendant came. I don't know, like, if she's dealing with, like, body by Jake. She jumped up in the middle and landed her feet in the middle. Like, no!
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Speaker 1: Like, she landed on both, like.
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Speaker 2: Things, her feet.
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Speaker 1: Like, no!
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? She's like, sir, just go, just go.
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Speaker 1: Like, and the person I was with looked at me like, they ain't never seen me like that.
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Speaker 2: Like, I told you. I told you what I'm diagnosed with. Impulsive explosive disorder. I'm calm, but when I'm not calm, ain't shit nobody can do about it. Right?
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Speaker 1: So then, so this motherfucker's like, oh.
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Speaker 2: You gonna put your hands on me, son? Yo, put your hands on me!
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you.
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Speaker 4: Give this guy's itinerary about, like, why was he in a hurry? Did anyone ask him?
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck. It don't even matter. I know it doesn't matter. He just thought he's better than everybody. Right, right, right.
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Speaker 4: I was just curious.
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Speaker 1: So, like, he said, you gonna.
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Speaker 2: Pay me over like that like I'm some bitch? I said, yes.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You're fucking right. So, like, I'm out there now, like, but they ain't let me get my bag. They said, sir, you got to leave. So, now I'm waiting outside the plane.
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Speaker 1: So, now you're waiting. Because the person I'm with still got to come, too. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, he come out, right?
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Speaker 1: So, you know, he got his boys with him, too. Like, his boys. He came out, pinned his ass up. You know the little thing? Oh, you went after him again.
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Speaker 2: Because I was still there waiting. I still, I'm hot now. Like I told you, when I'm there, I'm there. Mm-hmm. We walking out like the plane. So I'm waiting because I got to get my bag, right? And the person I'm with, they got to get my bag and their bag, their carry-on, right? So he coming and he walk out and he mumbled something. Grabbed his ass again. Picked his ass up this time against him. Banged his ass against the rail thing. He's like, son, you don't do me like that, son. You don't do me like that.
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Speaker 1: Like I'm a.
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Speaker 2: And then his boys came. I said, Dave's like, he wrong. That would have been the end of my friendship. If you see me get jumped up and you don't jump on him, we're never going to be friends again. They're like, he was wrong. We're sorry, big dog. You know what I'm saying? And then the dudes walking by, they was like, I don't know why he did that. If he.
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Speaker 1: He should have just looked at your back. I had on like this yellow, like, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: I be wearing like cashmere and shit. I had on like a yellow cashmere, like, like Lord Piani, some shit. He's like, man, you don't never fuck with no nigga that stood up with no goddamn Lord Piani, with no goddamn yellow shirt on. You knew that motherfucker somebody. I was like, man. So yeah.
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Speaker 1: I had to dump that in the bucket, man. I mean, I've been in therapy.
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Speaker 2: I've been trying. No, for real, man. I'm in therapy. Willie, you know I do therapy, man. No, some people need that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's good for you. Let it out, man.
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Speaker 1: This is the problem, right?
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Speaker 2: My diagnosis and who I am as a person, I went out to the Jets thing and on the Jumbotron yesterday, they put Matt Backer, right? Because everybody knows I'm like that. I'm calm, but I'm like that. And The issue is, like, in football, for me, the violent response is always to correct one.
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Speaker 1: Like, if you get pissed off... It's justified.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get your ass kicked in football, you being more violent is fine.
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Speaker 1: Right, right. Like, so, like, you can.
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Speaker 2: You can hide, like, these impulses and these fucking... Like, that's why it's so hard for me every day. That's why I go to the gym so much, Willie. Because I got this rage and this violence in me that it never goes anywhere. And sometimes I just want to choke the shit out of somebody. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes.
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Speaker 3: It's like that part in Avengers when Captain America talks to the Hulk.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to be in the other room. I'm just going to.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm just.
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Speaker 3: No, it's like that part when Captain America tells Bruce Banner, he goes, this is the time to get angry.
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Speaker 1: He goes, that's my secret. I'm always angry.
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Speaker 2: That's me, man. I damn near teared up when I saw that shit. I was like, he understands me.
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Speaker 4: That was written just for you, bro.
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to smash myself. Let's go. Week two. It's in the books, man. A lot to talk about.
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Speaker 3: We always like to start this segment with biggest winners and biggest losers.
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Speaker 1: Bart, I'm going to lean on you real quick.
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Speaker 2: I'll go.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go biggest winners. You're not going to like this, Bart.
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Speaker 3: The biggest winner for me this weekend, and there's a couple candidates, I'm going to go New Orleans Saints.
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Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints beat the Baltimore Ravens.
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Speaker 4: As a team, collectively?
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Speaker 3: You have to understand. Tyler Shuck, baby. Tyler Shuck. and what Kellen Moore and what this team is becoming. First of all, fuck the Ravens for life. I love Bart, but fuck the Ravens for life, right? But Baltimore... We'll be okay. No, y'all going to be more than okay. You said something last week. You was like, though, you don't want me to start talking about my Ravens. And I was like, yeah, I get it. The Ravens look scary, bro. And because Lamar Jackson, Valley, he didn't have the best game. But how they look as a team, they look like they're primed for January. So I'm not worried about the Ravens. I can see them winning the division. Metta B can't be back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Berbers are going to be primed. But what I have to compliment the Saints about, compliment the Saints for, because Tyler Shuck, man, and that team in the second half of that game, and what he did in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 1: He had, I used.
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Speaker 2: 27 for 34, 252 yards, touchdown, no interception.
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Speaker 1: He was sacked three times.
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Speaker 3: But when you talk about what they're able to do, they had a, if you know, if you follow me and Bart, or SMY, Bart talks about the pony package.
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Speaker 1: They whipped out the pony package. Travis Etienne and Alvin Kamara, man.
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Speaker 2: To see Travis Etienne, to see Alvin Kamara, to see this big-ass tight end, Juan Johnson, looks like a thoroughbred, dog. Bro, bro, he's shredded like a joke, man. He looked like Vernon Davis when Vernon Davis first came out at 264.3. Bro, he looked like Kevin Willis.
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Speaker 3: He looked like Kevin Willis catching the football. So, absolute dog, child of shock, absolute dog. Kellen Moore, that offense and what they're becoming. And defensively, first of all, I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: It's two weeks in a row.
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Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row.
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Speaker 2: But I didn't know Brandon Staley was defense coordinator for them. Ah, makes sense. Makes sense.
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Speaker 3: So they're getting home with four and three. And the secondary is playing legit. And to go into Baltimore, get into a dogfight. And by the way, something that we've seen around the league, these quarterbacks, when they slide, some are going for the first down and others are retreating. This dude in the second half of that game, was going for every inch, every blade of grass.
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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield style.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he was diving for it.
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Speaker 2: He's the captain of that team. And this is why when you talk about.
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Speaker 3: Some of these young quarterbacks like the Drake Mays, the Jackson Darts, he's honestly in that conversation.
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Speaker 1: He's showing that you can put the franchise on his back.
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Speaker 3: And going into Baltimore, beating the Ravens in a dramatic fashion.
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Speaker 2: I got the Saints as the biggest one. First of all, I cannot believe Nathan Shepard is still in the league. Still in the league, yeah. You talk about, I love him to death, man. First of all, he was like 30 when he got in the league. Didn't he play with you?
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Speaker 1: He ain't got a half a sack.
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Speaker 2: He wasn't there with you in New York?
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Speaker 1: Man, that dude is old as dog shit. Straight out of Canada. And he been stealing for a while, man.
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Speaker 2: I don't know who gives me more agitated watching him as a former Jet. Him or the other dude, little ice kid dude, Solomon Thomas. I don't know which one of them get out of my skin. I don't know which one of them get out of my skin the worst, man. But I tell you what, what Kellen Moore is doing there, I mean, they're legitimate, especially with Tampa being 0-2. They're legitimate candidates to win that division. The Panthers are up and down. But you talk about what they did week one in that huge comeback. And I think something like Tyler. And they were only a play away from winning that game. Yeah, I think Tyler Shuck is like the leading quarterback, fourth quarter quarterback in the league right now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 2: And that's what gets so frustrating for me as a Jets fan is that Teams like New Orleans can find a franchise quarterback in the third, fourth round, second round. They get lucky.
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Speaker 1: You look at Dallas. They find Dak Prescott.
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Speaker 2: In the fourth. They find Tony Romo. Yeah. See, but those are first-round draft picks. I'm talking about guys that find people like in the fourth, third round. They become your franchise quarterback.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Brock Purdy, too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like some bullshit. Like, Brock Purdy saved John Lynch's job because he should have got fired for that Trey Lance shit.
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Speaker 1: Like, that usually gets you fired.
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Speaker 2: Like, you trade up, give up a whole bunch of future assets for a guy, and then he can't play.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if Trey Lance is even in the league. I was just about to say, first of all, I don't think I've ever seen him play an official game. We'll get to that.
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Speaker 4: We'll get to that.
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Speaker 3: But, yeah, so the Saints, for me, defensively, offensively, they cook. They beat the Baltimore Ravens. There was some, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you could have went some other place, but I knew what you were doing. You were talking about your guy getting past the Spencer yesterday, almost losing the top of his damn head.
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Speaker 1: No, it was ugly for my Steelers yesterday. Biggest winner for you, Bar.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Yeah, for me, shout out to Terrific Tom and what's going on in Las Vegas. I mean, quietly, secretly, the Raiders are 2-0. And they're playing well. Kirk Cousins is just what I think a guy like Mendoza needs. You don't have to force him into the game right now. You talk about what he was able to do, play, distribute the football. They're playing inspired. He's dealing. He's dealing.
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Speaker 1: So right now, I think the Las.
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Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders deserves to get– we don't know how long it's going to last, but it's not like they're beating some horrible teams. And we'll get to that team because that team that they played is on my other list.
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Speaker 1: Mine's two, so I guess we're going to be.
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Speaker 3: So it's interesting because I think we can roll right into it because the– so the Chargers, right, they're my biggest losers and they're your biggest losers.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: The issue with that game, I don't know if the.
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Speaker 3: Raiders look that good or the Chargers are currently that bad because what we're– so what we're looking at right now is an offense led by Mike Medea and Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert turned over the fumble three times. The operation throughout the game was sloppy as hell. The offensive line, by the way, healthy. All had multiple penalties. Rashawn Slater didn't play well. Amari and Hampton coughed up the ball.
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Speaker 1: They leaned on him at times. Defensively, they can get off the field on third down.
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Speaker 3: And if you're starting to look at this, I think, I don't know if you've ever been, I guess you are because he was a Raven.
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Speaker 2: And he was a Jets. And you were with the Jets when they were good.
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Speaker 3: Have you ever gone into a season where there's been so much hype? so much like where this team could be that you guys drank it all early and tripped out early?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it was the third year we threw Santonio Holmes off the huddle and stuff like that because we're coming off of two back-to-back AFC championships. We just, we were so tired. We was like, man, like, we we didn't respect the regular season the way we needed to. Cause we were like, Hey man, well, we'll just figure a way out. We just want to get back to the playoffs with a real tournament starts. And we, we were disappointed in a couple of games in the Ravens where we, you know, one, one year, then next year we were just God awful. A couple of injuries happen, things like that. Some key free agents that you don't think that you really need, but this is unforeseen. I mean, you think Harbaugh, Third year is usually when he's taking that big leap, brothers, with the University of Michigan team. or whether it was with the San Francisco 49ers, you think, just like his brother, wherever he's at, you expect the team to be good and respectable.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I don't recognize his team. I wonder if it's an identity.
00:20:26
Speaker 2: Crisis with Josh McDaniels, because this used to be a team that used to run the ball, physicality. Yeah, Mike McDaniels, physicality, Greg Roman, all that type of stuff. And we see that physicality in the run game. From that, we see that transfer over to the Giants, because the Giants look more like what we've seen from San Diego as far as the toughness of running the ball than they did. I don't know if he's trying to take a team that's usually built on being a TRX and starting to make them, trying to make them a Corvette.
00:20:53
Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
00:20:54
Speaker 3: So Greg Roman, their old offensive coordinator guy, can because they couldn't score, right? I think they put up 50 points in that playoff game, and it was like, that's not good enough.
00:21:02
Speaker 1: Get out of here. The Chargers have scored no more than 14 points in back-to-back weeks. Yeah. You get what I'm saying?
00:21:08
Speaker 3: And now you're looking at Justin Herbert and– He doesn't look like himself. And what's interesting about him and Amari and Hampton, they aren't bad, but they aren't great. When you give somebody $ 250 million, you want to see a Josh.
00:21:21
Speaker 3: Allen-type performance when your team isn't playing well and he hasn't been able to deliver.
00:21:24
Speaker 1: So this is the thing that I always fight against, right?
00:21:27
Speaker 2: Because at first, I felt like it was Trevor Lawrence that, man, this dude is just a disappointment.
00:21:31
Speaker 1: He's not what we thought he was.
00:21:32
Speaker 2: But at that same time, Justin Herbert, he's had Anthony Lynn, he's had Staley, and now.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: He has Harbaugh. Like, we dubbed him as, like, the next guy, right?
00:21:44
Speaker 2: Because, like, I think his statistics before this year was, Only Patrick Mahomes had thrown for more yards in the period in which he had been in the NFL. But something happens to him. We talk about clutch gene all the time. Something happens to him when we get into those clutch moments. I mean, remember, he was up 28 to nothing on Jacksonville and found a way to lose. He finds ways to lose games in pivotal moments. He hasn't had that get over the hump type of game.
00:22:13
Speaker 1: Well, let me say this. He's old at this point. He's not a kid anymore. No, he's not.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: But I've seen moments where he's definitely put the team on his back. The issue with him right now, and I think, and maybe you can attest to this, When you go through so much trauma in your early years as a ball player and you deliver time after time and then now the team is good, you wonder how much does he really have left in the tank.
00:22:36
Speaker 1: You understand, this man was sacked a lot. He was hit a lot. Back-to-back years, the offensive line just failed him.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: So now that the offensive line is healthy, he looks like he may have some pieces around him. Now you start to see maybe, are we looking at Justin Herbert on decline right now?
00:22:52
Speaker 1: And the only reason I say this is because think about this. And Nutter, if you can, put up the schedule. Oh, for the... This year's Chargers.
00:22:58
Speaker 2: They played the Arizona Cardinals. They can be 0-7. That's where I'm going. They can be 0-7.
00:23:04
Speaker 1: So the Arizona Cardinals, and they lost to the Raiders. Raiders.
00:23:08
Speaker 2: Those are supposed to be wins. Those are supposed to be wins. Their next games are the Bills, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs... Rams. Rams and Texans.
00:23:17
Speaker 1: Ravens and Texans. Am I looking at that right?
00:23:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, Texans, then Ravens.
00:23:20
Speaker 2: Yep. Right. And so... They could lose all those. They could lose all those games. They were my Super Bowl contender.
00:23:27
Speaker 1: And the Jets ain't an easy win anymore.
00:23:29
Speaker 2: Right.
00:23:30
Speaker 3: You can't just walk up on the Jets anymore. They'll put up a fight. So you're talking about an outfit right now led by Harbaugh. I don't know if.
00:23:39
Speaker 2: If they don't do what they need to do to turn this around, could they be looking for a new head coach?
00:23:43
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to get to this probably later, but... Their only easy game is the Dolphins.
00:23:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:23:49
Speaker 4: Two days after Christmas.
00:23:50
Speaker 1: And we talk about... I had to win in the division, but.
00:23:53
Speaker 2: We talk about 0-2 teams. And I mean, now the Kansas City Chiefs look unstoppable now.
00:24:00
Speaker 1: Because they got a run game. Yeah, 0-2 teams.
00:24:04
Speaker 4: 10% to 11.5% to make the playoff.
00:24:06
Speaker 2: We got some of the most surprising 0-2 teams in the league, man. You talk about Tampa Bay 0-2. We talk about the Texans 0-2.
00:24:15
Speaker 1: These are all teams that we thought was going to take the next step, man.
00:24:19
Speaker 3: But I think when you look at Mike McDaniels and his offense and what he's been able to.
00:24:23
Speaker 2: Do thus far.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: We thought this was a dream team, man. Not only the dream team.
00:24:27
Speaker 3: You just thought we was going to witness a machine like we watched with Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco.
00:24:31
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this because I think they can't score points because they don't really have a true machine. Ladd McConkie is like a slot guy. Yeah. I'm going to throw this out there. They might need to call the cheater, bro. Excuse me, the Chargers? They need an explosive guy. I know he's still working his way back. He played in his offense.
00:24:54
Speaker 1: The doctor said he won't be ready until October.
00:24:56
Speaker 2: I don't care, but I'm saying he played in his system. Right.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: I don't know how it ended.
00:25:01
Speaker 2: It's not a bad call.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: You got to stretch this. You got to get easy scores, man. But when you turned on the game yesterday, Bart, The X and O's are one thing.
00:25:11
Speaker 2: Sloppy. It was just sloppy. The fumbles. It is early. Some teams suffer from this more than others. Some teams suffer from sloppy play. Some teams suffer from finding your identity and also sloppy play because it usually is an extension of the preseason now.
00:25:29
Speaker 1: Some teams hit the ground rolling. Some teams don't. All right. Week two MVP.
00:25:36
Speaker 4: Um.
00:25:37
Speaker 1: Who did you have still on the show? I love that. I love that he threw it to me because you're still trying to ramble.
00:25:43
Speaker 2: No, I think I have a guy. I mean, the easy person right now is Kenneth Walker. Like, he's the easiest person right now. But just simply for seeing the greatest catch that I think I've ever seen, I'm just going to go ahead and give it to Jamar Chase. I think that's better than Santonio Holmes. That's better than Odell Beckham. That might be one of the most difficult– understanding where you're on the field, toe drag, swag, that I've seen, I think, ever on the football field. It was a filthy catch. No, but it's not the catch. It's the dragging of the feet as you're doing a pirouette.
00:26:20
Speaker 1: You had to see the kid. There was a receiver from there.
00:26:22
Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at that.
00:26:23
Speaker 1: I mean, that's filthy. Bro, but it's the toe. He put the toe down, man.
00:26:27
Speaker 2: Both toes. And twisted.
00:26:29
Speaker 1: And that's against the Texans, man.
00:26:30
Speaker 3: The kid, Corey White, who was a backup receiver for the Raiders, had a hell of a catch against the Chargers.
00:26:36
Speaker 1: Where he pretty much had to twist his body.
00:26:38
Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at that. They look like both feet going to be out.
00:26:41
Speaker 1: It's filthy.
00:26:42
Speaker 3: How did he know where he was? And he controlled the ball on the way down. So I got nothing.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: The Bungles are 2-0, and they play like shit on offense. They didn't play well in back-to-back weeks.
00:26:54
Speaker 2: Right.
00:26:55
Speaker 1: But they're winning. But they're defensive. And that's against the Texans. I don't know. Okay, who's your MVP?
00:27:02
Speaker 2: MVP.
00:27:02
Speaker 1: It was Kenneth Walker. That's why I wanted you to go first.
00:27:04
Speaker 2: Okay, well, go ahead. Yeah, no.
00:27:05
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, man, he runs. Kenneth Walker may die.
00:27:10
Speaker 2: He's not going to die. Man, what do you have, 30 carries? Listen, Kenneth Walker, this is my only concern. I think they have to find somebody to come in and to spell.
00:27:22
Speaker 1: They're going to have to make a trade for somebody. Rather, it's Isaiah Davis from the Jets.
00:27:26
Speaker 2: But they drafted that other one.
00:27:27
Speaker 1: They drafted a kid.
00:27:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. He did his thing. Yeah, number 10. Yeah, that's right.
00:27:31
Speaker 1: But 30 carries, brother? Like, we know. We've seen this. Oh, 24. I'm sorry. So back-to-back weeks over 100 yards.
00:27:39
Speaker 2: He's on pace for that scary-ass 300. Remember, he suffered for injuries early on in his career, and he was trending. I'm scared that while Mahomes is getting back, they're going to wear this kid out.
00:27:53
Speaker 1: Like, we did this to Thomas Jones.
00:27:57
Speaker 2: The year he rushed for like 1,600 yards, we wore his ass out that he really didn't have what he needed for the playoffs. And that's where Sean Green came out. So I don't know if this young kid is going to be the guy. The young kid is coming along well. Right, right.
00:28:09
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the young kid is the guy that was coming.
00:28:11
Speaker 2: What's his name, Nutter?
00:28:12
Speaker 1: So we stopped saying young kid.
00:28:13
Speaker 4: Oh, sorry. I'm looking up Kenneth Walker's injury history.
00:28:16
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though. Here's the thing, though.
00:28:18
Speaker 5: Like.
00:28:19
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker may get them to the playoffs, but I don't know how much he'll have when he gets there. This young kid will come. But, like, we knew Thomas Jones was only going to be there for another year. We got rid of Thomas Jones. Kenneth Walker, you just invested in him. So we saw Sean Alexander. Oh, Emmitt Johnson, yeah. We saw DeMarco Murray. Like, after you get these heavy carries the next year, you're shot.
00:28:41
Speaker 1: You know why I like a dog like Kenneth Walker?
00:28:44
Speaker 3: Because when you're an offensive lineman, man, you need somebody to get you engaged into.
00:28:53
Speaker 1: The offense, right?
00:28:54
Speaker 3: Because sometimes from an offensive line standpoint, you can dial it up, you pass the ball many times. But to get involved, not only physically but emotionally, when you watch this dude run and you start watching Trey Smith and them boys, they're not just Bowen and Creed Humphries.
00:29:08
Speaker 2: They're not knocking dudes off the ball. They're talking shit.
00:29:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the two best interior things.
00:29:13
Speaker 5: Right.
00:29:14
Speaker 3: But you saw, I'm saying, you saw early the offensive line emotionally get involved with the game.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: That's some Eric the Enemy type stuff.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because Nagy didn't commit to the run like that. You got a former running back that believes in physicality. And say what you want about the enemy. But I'm talking about third and six, we running the ball. Third and whatever, we running the ball. But that's the enemy. So, like, I just hate that he can't get a head coaching job because I hear, he's a bad interviewer.
00:29:41
Speaker 1: It's a perception out there that he's a bad interviewer.
00:29:42
Speaker 3: And nobody knows what that means either because we don't know. Every organization's interview process is different.
00:29:47
Speaker 2: From everybody else's. Well, not everybody interviews well and things like that. I think that's why Andy Reid brought him back because I think Andy Reid, when Andy Reid walks away, he's going to leave the job there for him just like Bruce Aaron left it for him. But that's not even the most impressive person on their team, in my opinion, Willie. The most impressive person on their team is the undrafted rookie left tackle that's putting on a masterclass that's.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: Never played tackle. So much so that you don't know his name and I don't know his name.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: I just know his number. Number 70.
00:30:18
Speaker 3: They talked about him in the telecast, Collinsworth. But remember, they drafted the kid Simmons out of Ohio State.
00:30:24
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:30:24
Speaker 3: And who was supposed to be their anchor. And I know he went through some issues last year and this year.
00:30:29
Speaker 1: The undrafted rookie free agent.
00:30:31
Speaker 4: Khalil Benson.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: Khalil Benson, yeah. Undrafted free agent out there putting on work on the island. Crazy.
00:30:38
Speaker 3: Listen, when Mahomes had the knee injury, you know you needed to do two things. Protection and have a run game. That's why I think the run game right now is not just about Kenneth Walker running the shit out the ball.
00:30:49
Speaker 1: It's the fact, like, it's changing the identity of who they are.
00:30:52
Speaker 3: Where Mahomes now looks like, I can sit in the backseat, and we now have somebody driving the car, which is fucking scary.
00:30:59
Speaker 2: Did you see that scar, too? That's an old-school scar. That's old school. I thought it was more arthroscopic.
00:31:06
Speaker 1: Did you see him run, though? He still has a little gimp.
00:31:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Did you see the gimp?
00:31:10
Speaker 4: Guys, think about it. When he got hurt, was it like a day and a half later, they're like, oh, he's already out of surgery.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: You're like, what?
00:31:16
Speaker 1: Well, because Brady came out. They sprinkle so much ACH in his. Sprinkle, sprinkle. Well, no.
00:31:21
Speaker 3: Then Brady said, you know, they had interviewed Tom Brady when he tore his ACL. And Brady was like, well, as soon as I had the operation, I got right off the table and I went right to work. And I think Patrick Mahomes took on that process. The problem is Tom Brady is a masochist when it comes to his diet.
00:31:37
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was a little chubby. I'm surprised. I'm surprised he didn't get fat. He had to commit because he a dude that, like, we seen the dad buying the 40-ticket shirt. I was like, oh. That boy was thick all over the head. And a lot of times, like, man. He was like Luka. He like Luka. He'll show up skinny.
00:31:54
Speaker 1: He leaving fat. I thought it was the rib protector. Until they did, like, you know how they go to the locker room at the end of a game? And I saw his body. I said, oh, that's really huge.
00:32:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:04
Speaker 1: Oh, you're really out here with that punch.
00:32:05
Speaker 4: He's rocking a cumberbund there, man.
00:32:07
Speaker 1: I can't. Who am I to talk? My quarterback was chubby. I had Ben Robson.
00:32:10
Speaker 4: Real quick, K-9, where does that rank on all-time nickname lists? A pretty dope K-9 for Kenneth Walker. You like that? No, not feeling it?
00:32:18
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.
00:32:19
Speaker 1: I mean, it fits the way he's playing. He's a dog out there right now.
00:32:23
Speaker 2: I feel it, but, like, the only K-9 I know is Bundridge, the boxer from Detroit. You know what I'm saying? So I can't just throw somebody else's nickname out there and take it for your own.
00:32:32
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Gotcha, gotcha.
00:32:33
Speaker 2: You winning the crates for that one. Huh?
00:32:34
Speaker 1: You winning the crates for that one. Well, you know I love boxing, man.
00:32:37
Speaker 2: What's next?
00:32:39
Speaker 4: All right, real quick, I want to touch on this with you guys. This Cleveland-Tampa Bay suspended game. already a mess of a game.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: Boy, I got me self-conscious by my lips.
00:32:47
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.
00:32:49
Speaker 2: See, but you're making it worse, man, because now you're putting your spit on there, and your spit is thick.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: Who used to lick their lips a lot?
00:32:54
Speaker 2: LL Cool J, right?
00:32:55
Speaker 1: That's what LL got in trouble for.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:32:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm trying to buy you some time here.
00:32:59
Speaker 2: You would be capital L.
00:33:00
Speaker 4: Look, Lightning stopped this game in the fourth quarter. There was two minutes left, and Tampa Bay was driving on Cleveland's 34. They're down four points, and this game was stopped for like three hours. So, like... What's going on with players? What's going on in the locker room? How shitty of a situation is this when something happens like this?
00:33:21
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unfortunate, but it happens. And, like, you can't control Mother Nature.
00:33:24
Speaker 2: You can't control, you know, you got to protect the safety of the people that's consuming the product.
00:33:29
Speaker 1: It's about, did you see that?
00:33:30
Speaker 2: It looked like a hurricane. Oh, yeah, it looked bad. It was crazy.
00:33:33
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, get inside.
00:33:34
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Hey, let's just fight through these two minutes.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: But, man, the last two minutes of a game could be like 30, 40 minutes, right? And I know if some lightning just touched over there.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: I'm just going to lay on the ground. I'm laying on the ground because I'm suing. Why are you laying on the ground? Because I'm suing. I'm talking about if I'm in the crowd.
00:33:53
Speaker 2: Am I understanding? Oh, right, right, right.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, you got, ah.
00:33:57
Speaker 2: Bro, it's like he's there falling. Man, it ain't even wet over there, man.
00:34:02
Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
00:34:03
Speaker 3: I think, so I've been in, I haven't dealt with a delay to my knowledge. I don't remember if I have been a part of it.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: I just know if two minutes of the game for ballplayers, like we're coming down from all the drills we took to be prepared to play that game. The Toradale, whatever we done pumped in ourselves, whatever we done drank, we're on the downside of that right now.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: So for us to.
00:34:25
Speaker 3: Be forced to go back in the locker room when you're looking at a clock that says only two minutes left, it kills you. I know I was, especially late in my career, I was a guy that could not stop playing. You like Larry Bird when he had that back? He got to lay on the back and put the hot pack on his back?
00:34:42
Speaker 2: Bro, no bullshit.
00:34:43
Speaker 3: I remember it was so interesting. I think I told you the story It was 2015, we were playing the Raiders, and the week before their game, my offensive line coach said, Willie, you know, we're in the mix of this thing. Because we were on the positive side of the season. It was like, man, we know you're having trouble with your knees. How about we have you play the first.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: Half, bringing Brian Winters, our young guard, and let him finish the game.
00:35:06
Speaker 3: Because we knew we had to play Buffalo. We had some dogfights ahead, and we wanted to run the ball. It was like, man, we need you out there, but we know we're struggling right now.
00:35:15
Speaker 1: I said, fine.
00:35:16
Speaker 3: And I remember I told my coach, Coach Marshall was our office line coach. I said, listen, man, I know what you want, and it makes sense. But the way this Chevy's built right now– Once it's warmed up and ready to go, we got to go. And we just got to ride. If you sit me down and Winters gets hurt, I can't go out. I know I can't go out there and do anything. It's going to be bad. You got the ice on the knees.
00:35:41
Speaker 2: It's a ride.
00:35:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to have you.
00:35:42
Speaker 2: I'm going to have the ice.
00:35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like Patrick. Yeah, I'm going to be barbecue chicken out there.
00:35:46
Speaker 3: And I remember him looking at me like, you know what's interesting? And I don't know because you said you're a boxing fan. You know when you have, like, you respect the fighter, but you also know he's.
00:35:55
Speaker 2: A dying dog. And you don't know how to, like, support him in the moment. And he gave me these eyes like.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Damn, man. Yeah, he's like, all right. I feel you. Let's just pray to God that winners don't get hurt.
00:36:07
Speaker 2: Let's hope we don't have to go there.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: Man, it was brutal.
00:36:10
Speaker 3: So I can't imagine what those guys went through yesterday, but I know if I was out there, I was like, listen, you might as well.
00:36:15
Speaker 1: Go out there.
00:36:15
Speaker 2: Well, the strategic advantage, right, is the game was coming down to the final drive, right? That was the thing. So momentum was on Baker Mayfield's side because you got him tired and stuff like that. Two-minute drill. Advantage goes to the offense, especially now with these new rules. But to go back and as a defensive player to go back and say, listen, this is what we're getting. Because now you can't see what they were doing from a strategic standpoint in real time.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: But now you had time.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: First thing that happened, I'm sure these defensive coordinators, Ty Bowles, I mean, not Ty Bowles. I'm sure they went in there, man. They start drawing up defenses. This is how we got to stop it. Let's do something different. They looking at the analytics. They probably looking at the old film. What do they do with these drives? So the advantage goes to the defensive team because now they get to break down what the offense is doing from a strategic standpoint. And now you're telling me I get two hours rest, I get to take some more stuff, and all I got to do is put one drive.
00:37:03
Speaker 3: I want to ask you this now. We're talking about injuries real quick. You dealt with an injury. I know your toe was a big issue for you. How did you prepare for those games dealing with your toe? I tore every ligament in my toe. I tore my sesamoids. Like my toe literally didn't touch the ground for 13 weeks. I probably should, you know, hindsight.
00:37:21
Speaker 2: And I ended up tearing the toe in my other ligament, in my other toe, because my little toe.
00:37:26
Speaker 1: Same toe?
00:37:27
Speaker 2: Same foot.
00:37:28
Speaker 1: Because my little toe had to be doing what my big toe did.
00:37:31
Speaker 2: Like, so I remember like I had to wear a size, I wear a 13, I had to wear a size 14 to fit my foot in the shoe. And then I had to cut the front of my shoe off from here to here. And then I took foam and taped it down and spat it. and then spray painted with- with- with.
00:37:49
Speaker 4: With- with- with- with- You built an extension on your shoe?
00:37:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I cut the roof off, right? I cut the roof off, and then I put, like, uh, uh, foam over it, so they couldn't tell that my- basically, my toes were out.
00:38:00
Speaker 1: Basically, I had Moses sandals.
00:38:02
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
00:38:03
Speaker 1: You had them air- some air- Wait, so.
00:38:05
Speaker 4: You were free-balling and free-toeing?
00:38:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, free-free-toeing, yeah. Just out here like an MMA fighter.
00:38:09
Speaker 2: Straight raw. So, like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, it made a dome like this. Right, because it was foam, because you gotta bend it from one side and then tape it. And I spray paint, I can remember we were playing the Arizona Cardinals, and I'm out there, and I'm like, hey, what up, Larry?
00:38:22
Speaker 1: Yo, this game, you like good stuff, all this stuff. And he looked down like, yo.
00:38:25
Speaker 2: What the hell wrong with your foot, dog? I'm like, man, it's a lot going on here. He's like, man, he's like Ronald McDonald, dog. What the hell wrong with your foot?
00:38:33
Speaker 1: I said, Larry, man, there's a lot going on, dog.
00:38:36
Speaker 2: I couldn't stop. So I couldn't start and stop. So people were like, oh, Bart can't run anymore. That's because I tell anybody, try and do anything in life.
00:38:44
Speaker 1: Was it a situation where you couldn't feel?
00:38:46
Speaker 2: No, what happened was because you have two ligaments, one on the top, one on the bottom. So that's what keeps your toe down. But when the one on the bottom stopped, my toe goes up in the air. They call it tiger claw because your toe knows it's supposed to do this. So my toe literally was here. So I would have to take foam and put three tapes of foam and put it underneath so when I push, my foot can feel like it has something underneath. Some support can trigger it to push because your big toe is what you push and stop off with. So I couldn't stop either. So I would have to ski stop. So I'd run it like that. I would always push off this foot.
00:39:20
Speaker 4: And that's not good for your knees.
00:39:21
Speaker 1: It's not good for your.
00:39:23
Speaker 2: But that's what happened when people started telling me, like, that's what was so disheartening, because I didn't tell anybody what was wrong. Rex knew what was wrong.
00:39:30
Speaker 1: Was going on.
00:39:31
Speaker 2: But I played with this for 13 weeks, and I can tell people exactly the game that it happened in because everybody remembers it because somebody else got hurt. That's a game week three that Revis tore his ACL. But I tore, so I paid 13 weeks with that. And people ask me, why did you play? People ask me like, why did you play? Why did you do that, Bart? That probably ended my career because people thought I couldn't run anymore, stuff like that.
00:39:59
Speaker 1: That was the last year I played in the league.
00:40:00
Speaker 2: And I told them because as a leader, you only have one opportunity to prove that you're willing to endure something that others can't. So everybody that followed me knew, and people that are out there, outside of London Fletcher, I think I had the longest streak for not missing a game or practice.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: It was something like 183 games. It was something stupid like that.
00:40:21
Speaker 2: Because Rex asked me, did he want me to put me in the game one play for Miami just so I can keep my streak going? You know, I basically went like 10 years without missing a game. You know what I'm saying? So like... I was like, nah, I need to let it heal up because it was a game right before the vibes and maybe I can get the swelling out. But I played that week and that whole season because I wanted to prove to people, the people.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: That followed me, I don't care about everybody else.
00:40:48
Speaker 2: All the people that Rex entrusted me to lead, like, man, look what this guy's willing to sacrifice for you. He's out there on 60%. He's out there for you guys.
00:40:59
Speaker 1: Oh, I get it.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: I remember I played my whole last year with the Jets on one leg, man. And I remember we had the all-white game. And it was two stories. I remember going into that game. Well, you know, it's funny you say that, Bart. It sparked a memory. I remember going into that season. And you know how they come out, the team who's already projected. The projected starters. And I wasn't on the list.
00:41:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:41:22
Speaker 3: And I remember this first time in my career, I was never projected a starter. And I remember how emotionally that charged me up. And mind you, I was on one knee.
00:41:29
Speaker 1: And anybody that watched me walk through those hallways knew I was peg leg Willie. I was dragging my.
00:41:34
Speaker 3: Knee up and down the hallway. And the Cleveland game, our first game was against Cleveland. And I ended up starting. And I came out the total. So you know how the total has, like, you know, it's like, do-do-do-do-do, then there's smoke, then the jets come out.
00:41:49
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, charged up, I'm ready to go. And as I'm running it out, I'm dragging my leg like this. I'm just like, yeah! Fired up.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: And I can remember.
00:41:59
Speaker 2: On the defense, I can't wait to go against this. Right.
00:42:01
Speaker 1: So I remember one of the young guys was like, I don't know how you're doing it, big dog. He's like, dog, I don't know. He's like, he uses.
00:42:08
Speaker 3: One of my young dogs, my brother, Odey Abushi, he came up to me, he's like, he's like, everybody sees you in pain, like, I'm like, dog, it's the game.
00:42:16
Speaker 1: You just, you accept it.
00:42:18
Speaker 3: And what's crazy, I had this conversation with my brother, Max Starks, and my other brother, Marcus Colson. We were talking about how my wife's going through menopause right now. And my wife is.
00:42:28
Speaker 1: Like, I'm hot, I'm this, I'm that, I'm that, I'm this. And so it's become like, all right, I know you got this issue, but you got to get over it.
00:42:35
Speaker 3: And you don't realize for ballplayers like us, when you're dealing with the outside world and they complain about everything else, and we've accepted that pain is just a part of who we are and what we got to deal with, they see us as being insensitive or cold or mean. And I'm just like, and my wife is like, you know, me and my wife has had We've had some blowouts, dog.
00:42:56
Speaker 1: To witness menopause in real time is a mother.
00:42:57
Speaker 2: You're trying to understand it. You're trying to relate, but you're like, it's okay. You understand that I've laid on operation tables awake while they've carved into my body. I've taken shots, I've done everything. In our minds, we expect them to be on that level.
00:43:15
Speaker 1: But they're not, right?
00:43:16
Speaker 2: They're not built like us.
00:43:18
Speaker 1: Right, so it's a weird situation, but to everybody out there that's grinded it up. Nutter, you know who athletes are, the real ones?
00:43:26
Speaker 2: We're Captain America. when Thanos is beating the dog shit out of him. And our damn shield is broke. And he's like, why will you keep getting up? He's just putting it on again. Fuck it to the death. I told some young dude, he was asking me, Willie, what was your mindset? He's like, how do you know who loves football? And I know you can attest this, but you played in the cold weather city. I was like, loving football is when your team is on the losing side of things, it's winter.
00:43:56
Speaker 3: You got to get up an extra hour to defrost your car, throw some hot water on your windshield, warm up your car, make it to the facility on time, knowing, one, you fucked up, but you don't want to be late, you have a routine, and while nobody's looking for you to do the right thing, you still do the right thing.
00:44:14
Speaker 2: I don't want our show to get sued. Do not... Listen to me. Do not throw hot water on a frozen windshield. That shit will fall in. And don't at me. What's that shit? It's the same motherfucker that burnt the turkey and almost killed the whole neighborhood. Do not throw hot water on a frozen windshield. I'm not saying you should do it. I'm just telling you what the fuck I did.
00:44:41
Speaker 1: And he's still here.
00:44:42
Speaker 2: And he was still here. I just want to just thank your whole windshield fell inside.
00:44:46
Speaker 4: Good catch, bud.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: Good catch. Willie got plenty of cars. If one fuck up, he can go drive another one. Your broke ass ain't going to be able to do that. All right, we're going to take a quick break. Bart and Willie show.
00:44:54
Speaker 1: Come on back. Welcome on back to the Bart and Willie show. We wanted to talk.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: About the injuries that have really shook up the NFL world. There's been some catastrophic ones. Bart, we talk about starting QBs who went down this weekend. I'm going to rip them off real quick. Jaden Daniels, elbow for the commanders. Caleb Williams, hamstring. By the way, very dramatic, very Paul Pierce in a wheelchair type thing. So we'll talk about that. Kyler Murray, obviously dealing with a concussion. Sam Darnold, hip. Tua Tungvalu, oblique. Really, I think Tua just doesn't want to play anymore.
00:45:26
Speaker 1: And Michael Penix.
00:45:28
Speaker 2: Michael Penix.
00:45:29
Speaker 1: Michael Penix. Michael Penix.
00:45:30
Speaker 2: We did not edit it out. Michael Penix. Oh, boy.
00:45:33
Speaker 1: Michael Penix. Come on, toppity-top, man. That shit still on your head?
00:45:35
Speaker 2: Nah, stop with the toppity-top. I'll tell you what the toppity-top. So I looked up toppity-top, yo. It's a salute to a general. It means a sign of respect. Don't call me Toppity Top, though. Okay, listen. My guy brother was a cross-dresser and he was gay, obviously. Toppity Top means something. So it depends on where you're hearing Toppity Top from, brother. Yeah, it's context. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Context. Who was the cross-dresser?
00:45:59
Speaker 1: Your brother, you said? My godbrother. Oh, your godbrother.
00:46:02
Speaker 2: He's passed since, but yeah, he's like a drag queen, stuff like that. He was out here like Urban Magic Johnson's son. You know what I'm saying? So toppity-top in his community means something different. So it depends on where he was coming from. We don't know the context. We don't know if you're a general or he thought you was the toppity-top and he was the bottom-bottom.
00:46:18
Speaker 3: There ain't no top or bottom over here in Casa Colon, period. But I tell you this, you talk about Magic Johnson's son, that motherfucker beat your ass. Magic Johnson is big than a motherfucker.
00:46:31
Speaker 2: I know he got... He's like 6'9. My brother can fight, too, because when you grow up that way, he was 6'4. You got no choice, but no, I'm not taking no L from Magic Johnson. If we want to get in the ring for some cash, you know what I'm saying?
00:46:45
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson will whoop your ass, bro. He built like an upside-down pair.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: Dog, he's enormous. I've seen him in LA. I've seen him in Miami at the W. I didn't realize.
00:46:57
Speaker 1: He's 6'8. He didn't do like Terry Crews got done, did he? What happened to Terry Crews?
00:47:02
Speaker 3: The executive did Terry Crews. No, I had no engagement with him. But I'm just telling you, he was enormous. I didn't realize how big he was.
00:47:10
Speaker 2: His dad is 6'9.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: But, bro, he has these thick-ass fishbowl goggles.
00:47:14
Speaker 1: And he looking down at you. And I was like, oh, shit.
00:47:18
Speaker 3: So you can say what you want about whatever, but I think EJ will whoop your ass.
00:47:22
Speaker 2: Nah, we got to see that one.
00:47:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying.
00:47:25
Speaker 2: If I lose to EJ, I got to die. Take me on the back like Mike's a man. I'll never be able to live that one down. But go ahead, man.
00:47:31
Speaker 1: Going back to quarterbacks that took a couple injuries. I told you which ones– who you think is the biggest injury out of the guys I just ripped off.
00:47:39
Speaker 2: I mean, by far, in my opinion, it has to be Caleb Williams because they're the team that has the biggest aspirations, right? When you look at Jaden Daniels, Marcus Mariota, we thought they were going to be better. People are starting to call for Dan Quinn's job.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: I hope not.
00:47:54
Speaker 2: I mean, this elbow, this is the second year in a row. And you know what happens. It reminds me of when Chris Webber's shoulder used to slip out all the time, even after the surgery. Like, those can be hard because– he has to learn how not to brace, which is a natural instinct. And he always puts his arm out there like that. He's going to have to figure that out. He's probably going to have to walk around with the J.J. Watt elbow brace.
00:48:16
Speaker 1: The good thing is this is a non-throwing shoulder, so it shouldn't be career-ending.
00:48:20
Speaker 2: But you're always worried if he has the ball in his right hand, if he's going to brace with the left.
00:48:25
Speaker 4: Did you hear Brady on the broadcast, by the way?
00:48:27
Speaker 2: Oh, no, no. I heard he said, oh, shit.
00:48:29
Speaker 4: And he's just like, oh, shit.
00:48:30
Speaker 2: I don't even watch those type of things, man. I've seen some gruesome injuries.
00:48:35
Speaker 4: Dude, they showed it like 50 times in a row, like unnecessarily.
00:48:38
Speaker 1: They need to stop, man. Yeah.
00:48:39
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Kyler Murray, he's going to have time to heal because Carson Wentz is playing at a high enough level that defense is carrying him. You know, Jaden Daniels, you know, he's in a race where you have Philadelphia, you have Dallas Cowboys. and he's losing to teams in which, you know what I'm saying, that they're in a division.
00:48:57
Speaker 1: So those almost count sometimes as one.
00:49:00
Speaker 2: But I think the Vikings are suited best to be able to do that, which brings up a whole other topic, the fact that how important are these backups nowadays? We see it's a dash for who can secure the best backup. I think, in my opinion, the best backup in all the NFL may be Mac Jones. Don't sleep on Jamison, by the way.
00:49:22
Speaker 1: Jamison, when he's in there, he cooks a little bit.
00:49:25
Speaker 2: But we know Jamison can cook, but we know somebody catching the ball, we just don't know all the time who. Right?
00:49:31
Speaker 1: If it's Jameis or if it's your team or the other.
00:49:33
Speaker 2: Like, Jameis, I think Mac Jones last year proved his worth, won five games without Brock Purdy.
00:49:39
Speaker 1: I mean, shit, he beat the Rams.
00:49:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you look at the fact that Mac Jones signed a two-year deal, and they could have got a first or second round draft.
00:49:49
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say this.
00:49:50
Speaker 3: My experience with backup quarterbacks, I've had some really good ones in Pittsburgh. I had Charlie Batch, who was seasoned. Charlie was great for us. And Byron Lefkowitz. And the points of a backup... It's interesting. So Charlie never wanted to be the starter.
00:50:09
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
00:50:10
Speaker 3: I think he was comfortable in being the stabilizer and being a steward to Ben.
00:50:16
Speaker 1: He was a guy... I've never been a part.
00:50:18
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen it. When Ben would come off the sideline, he wouldn't run to the... He wouldn't run to B.A., Bruce Ahrens. He wouldn't run to Mike Tomlin. He would run right to Charlie Batch. And him and Charlie... would have whatever dialogue.
00:50:30
Speaker 1: A great rapport. Yeah, there was a level of respect.
00:50:33
Speaker 2: Mentor.
00:50:34
Speaker 3: He was constantly telling Ben where his eyes should be. He was constantly like, it was almost having his own trainer in the corner for Ben to operate. And for a young guy growing up, it was awesome to see because there was times where.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: Maybe Ben didn't trust he was seen. And, you know, you're always willing to listen to a guy on the field.
00:50:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bruce doesn't know it from the field level.
00:50:55
Speaker 1: Yes, right.
00:50:56
Speaker 2: And Charlie obviously had a long career in Detroit, and he's from Pittsburgh, played really well. But when he got in the game, and also when Charlie got in the game, man, we never took a step down from an operation standpoint because he mastered.
00:51:09
Speaker 1: Professional.
00:51:10
Speaker 3: Well, on top of that, I think for a backup, yeah, you want to get the ball out. You want to do all these things. But from an operation standpoint, if you can master that, that takes the anxiety away from the guys around you.
00:51:22
Speaker 1: Because if you're a guy who can.
00:51:23
Speaker 2: Get the ball out of your hands on time, the cadence is right where it needs to be, there's no miscommunication, that calms the nerves of everybody else.
00:51:30
Speaker 1: Like, oh, Ben ain't out here now. You know, guys start to unravel. That never happened.
00:51:34
Speaker 3: Left, which was dope, because left mindset was– I'm going to make your job easy, dog.
00:51:40
Speaker 2: Just give me three seconds. Or give me two seconds, the ball's out.
00:51:43
Speaker 3: And so his mindset was like, I'm never going to put nothing on you or you guys up front.
00:51:46
Speaker 1: So don't worry.
00:51:47
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not going to be a guy that's going to sit back here, hold the ball, do whatever.
00:51:49
Speaker 3: So left was great. And then he had a cannon for an arm. So I was fortunate enough to play with really good backup quarterbacks. I don't know who your backup quarterbacks were.
00:51:57
Speaker 1: I didn't have great starters, so you know I didn't have great backups. I mean.
00:52:01
Speaker 2: For me, I guess the best backup I ever played with was Joe Flacco, but Joe Flacco, I only played with him for one year. People don't remember the year that we, first year, hardball's first year, we went to the AFC Championship. Troy Smith was supposed to be the starter. He got a viral, some type of infection, lost like 20 pounds and. got really, really sick, and Flacco took over the third preseason game and never looked back. But that kind of brings up another story, right? Because we talked about the NFL wanting to go to 18 games, and you ask yourself, who's best suited? Because injury is almost guaranteed in this league, and it's hard to keep anybody healthy. It kind of made us kind of think about who's in the best situation that you trust that if someone gets hurt, that they can come in. I think obvious right now, We already talked about Mac Jones.
00:52:55
Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz and.
00:52:56
Speaker 2: The fact that they're going with him. He's 2-0 already, and last year he had to do this, last year. But also the fact, I think for me, it's a rush to the top. Mac Jones, Drew Locke is doing his thing right now, and Carson Wentz. The other guys, I think, you know, you might as well cancel your plans for Christmas if some of these other guys get in there.
00:53:20
Speaker 3: Well, see, Drew Locke's been a part of the system for four or five years. And they signed him $ 5 million. They paid him $ 5 million to be the backer, which is wild because they have the kid from Alabama, Jalen Monroe, who's a dual threat who I think is a dog. So he's actually behind Drew Locke. There's a kid on that list. His name is Jalen Daniels. He's the backup quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's right behind Baker Mayfield. He's like, he's, this is a kid who scrapped, he plays exactly like Baker. Nobody knows his name because he's a little, you know, he hasn't played a lot, but he's honorable mention.
00:53:51
Speaker 1: So let's go through, right? Let's just have some fun. Go back to the bottom again. You want to start at the bottom?
00:53:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:56
Speaker 1: Let's go to the bottom.
00:53:57
Speaker 2: You were in trouble.
00:53:58
Speaker 1: If you got to go to Quinn, yours, you damn sure in trouble.
00:54:01
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, I didn't know he still was alive. I thought Trey Lance was out of the league. I thought he'd be like, what's that new lead they got over in Europe that Jack Del Rio just won?
00:54:09
Speaker 1: I thought.
00:54:11
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, Tommy Cutlass, you in trouble?
00:54:15
Speaker 1: I want to say Justin Fields, but I feel like he's in the perfect offense room.
00:54:18
Speaker 2: No, hell no.
00:54:20
Speaker 1: You think Justin Fields has to go out there?
00:54:23
Speaker 2: I think you'd be better playing the Wildcat. You put Kenneth Walker at quarterback and just play the Wildcat. Hell no. Let him be Ronnie Brown.
00:54:32
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you somebody who I do like.
00:54:34
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson?
00:54:36
Speaker 3: Forget about it. He's done. I like Davis Mills. Davis Mills won Texas three games last year.
00:54:47
Speaker 2: He may need to be the starter. He should have been the starter last year. Why they didn't put him in the playoff game last year? Davis Mills could be the RG3.
00:54:59
Speaker 1: Who's our guy we just talked about.
00:55:00
Speaker 2: From the Raiders?
00:55:02
Speaker 1: Oh, Kirk? Yeah, he could be the Kirk Cousins guy. To C.J. Straub.
00:55:07
Speaker 2: Because C.J. Straub, remember, people don't remember, they drafted RG3 and Kirk Cousins in the same draft. And Kirk Cousins ended up being the quarterback and having a much more illustrious career. Now, we know that RG3, the injuries stripped him of his career. But, man, Davis Mills may end up, they may have their starting quarterback. With that defense, you got enough to win.
00:55:30
Speaker 3: I watched Davis Mills win three games for the Texans and pretty much springboarded their run. Because when CJ went down, that dude got out there and started cooking.
00:55:41
Speaker 1: And to the point where people were like, do we have to put him back in?
00:55:45
Speaker 2: That was a real question. You know when they tell you, hey, we want to make sure, just take another week.
00:55:51
Speaker 1: Let's make sure you totally.
00:55:51
Speaker 3: But he was cooking so good, it was like, man, the continuity he has with the rest of his team in this offense, we feel like we're in a space where we don't have to look around anymore.
00:56:00
Speaker 4: Who jumps out at you? Who would you feel safe with, looking at this list?
00:56:04
Speaker 2: One thing I know about Flacco, he don't throw for 500... It might be 200 yards and intercepts and return yardage. But like what he did last year with Cincinnati had us asking ourselves like, yo, do they need Joe Burr back? Because like he came out, got the game plan in the playbook on Tuesday.
00:56:25
Speaker 1: By Sunday, he was throwing for 500.
00:56:29
Speaker 4: Well, he had a nice receiving core, too.
00:56:31
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He never had nothing like that.
00:56:33
Speaker 3: So there's somebody who, I mean, Stetson Bennett, every time he's been thrown into the fire, he produces.
00:56:39
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's a short little fucker. But is he coming in, though? Because they drafted the guy from... They drafted the first round.
00:56:46
Speaker 1: The kid from Bama. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:47
Speaker 3: But no, I've seen Stetson come in the game, and he's somebody I would trust and feel comfortable to go out there and do the damn thing.
00:56:54
Speaker 1: This is why it's so great to be a backup in this league, man.
00:56:57
Speaker 2: Some of these dudes... The greatest backup of all time.
00:57:00
Speaker 3: Do you remember Charlie Whitehurst was a backup for like 13 million years and was getting paid like a starting quarterback?
00:57:06
Speaker 1: No, the best was whoever backed up Eli because he never.
00:57:09
Speaker 2: Missed a game.
00:57:09
Speaker 4: That's right.
00:57:11
Speaker 1: Nassif or something like that.
00:57:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:57:15
Speaker 1: He never had to stay.
00:57:17
Speaker 2: 11 years, this dude never had to play. He played four games in the preseason, got some millies for nothing.
00:57:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like there were a couple there.
00:57:26
Speaker 1: Davis Webb. I remember Davis Webb. Geno was there for a little bit.
00:57:29
Speaker 2: Davis Webb is calling plays for Denver Broncos right now.
00:57:33
Speaker 1: No, Ryan Nassif. Ryan Nassif, bro. Ryan Nassif, bro.
00:57:36
Speaker 2: He was a.
00:57:37
Speaker 1: But I think also... From Syracuse or something like that. Well, I think... Listen, I think there's two types of quarterbacks.
00:57:41
Speaker 3: There's the quarterback that wants to play and put pressure on the starting guy. And there's the other guy... That's comfortable. That's comfortable with his job, what it's asked of him.
00:57:49
Speaker 2: Got his sunflower seeds. Yeah. And I don't think it's his sunflower seeds. He goes.
00:57:53
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's ever going to consider me a starting guy. I'm always going to be locked into being this backup guy.
00:57:58
Speaker 2: He needs a backup and like, listen, this is my role. I'm going to do my job the best I can. Some of these guys can be the third. But I think Mac Jones is trending that way. No, Mac Jones want to start. Mac Jones, what he did with San Francisco, he wants to be the next Sam Darnold. And I think he is the next Sam Darnold. Next year, he's going to be out there because Baker Mayfield got locked up. He's going to be the most. Whoever don't get that quarterback in the draft, Daniel Jones, listen, man, this dude had Matt Patricia as the damn offensive coordinator. Like, they drafted Nikhil Harry.
00:58:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, it was negligence out there. Like, he's showing you what he can do. And we know what quarterbacks are when they leave from Kyle Shanahan as they go get rehab.
00:58:42
Speaker 3: But you also risk, if you're Matt Jones, you risk going to a team that's not well-developed. when you can stay in San Fran and continue to compete for the Super Bowl. No, no, not to be, I mean. Like, Mac Jones is not going to a contender because a contender has their quarterback.
00:58:57
Speaker 2: Somebody will give Mac Jones the Baker Mayfield contract. Somebody will give Mac Jones to Sam Darnold. Come over here, $ 30 million, three years, three for 90, and then you start balling out and he'll get that second contract.
00:59:09
Speaker 1: There's only one team. It's the Jets.
00:59:12
Speaker 3: It's the only team that I can think off the cuff that I'd be like, hey, we'll give up a draft pick, some money.
00:59:18
Speaker 1: No, he's a free agent. They can't franchise tag him. You're getting him for free. So it's the Jets. That's the only team. I said that this offseason.
00:59:28
Speaker 2: Like, depending on how this goes and if Jets win enough games, which we think, and they won't be bad enough to be in the top five, top ten, the Jets with three first-round draft picks, you go get Jeremiah Smith to go out there and you go get the best offensive guard.
00:59:45
Speaker 1: I bet Jeremiah Smith is going to be a dolphin.
00:59:48
Speaker 4: All right, real quick to close out this segment, let's shout out some legendary backup quarterback achievements. We all know Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants, replaced Phil Simms. Super Bowl victory, pretty awesome. Nick Foles, same. Super Bowl MVP. Earl Moral, if I'm pronouncing that correct, won the NFL MVP.
01:00:08
Speaker 5: 1968.
01:00:08
Speaker 4: 11-0 filling in during the 72 undefeated Dolphins season. Crazy town. And Frank Reich obviously had that legendary comeback.
01:00:15
Speaker 1: It's one you don't have on there.
01:00:17
Speaker 4: Who's that?
01:00:18
Speaker 2: The snake.
01:00:19
Speaker 4: Jake Plummer?
01:00:20
Speaker 1: No, no, not that snake. For the Raiders.
01:00:23
Speaker 2: He came back, came off the bench and won two Super Bowls. Oh, man. I'm stumped.
01:00:29
Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank.
01:00:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm drawing a blank.
01:00:31
Speaker 1: You show us the snake? Well, maybe it's not the snake.
01:00:34
Speaker 4: Because it was Jake the Snake Plumber.
01:00:35
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not talking about Jake the Snake.
01:00:37
Speaker 4: Or Jake the Snake Robbers.
01:00:38
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. He played, listen, look him up. He played for the Raiders. Plunkett.
01:00:42
Speaker 4: Oh, Jim Plunkett.
01:00:43
Speaker 2: Jim Plunkett.
01:00:44
Speaker 1: Came off the bench and won two Super Bowls as the backup, dog.
01:00:47
Speaker 4: That's crazy town, yeah.
01:00:48
Speaker 1: That's two. That's crazy. All right, we're going to take a break. Come on back.
01:00:51
Speaker 2: Barton will welcome all back to the barton willie show monday night football it's the return of aaron donald he will be lining up for your los angeles rams they will be playing the new york giants aaron donald has been out how long has he been out two years two years not too bad uh future hall of famer obviously what do you expect to see out of aaron donald this is tough man um because I don't know if he has his timing with his moves. Remember, he had that crazy-ass cross chop. You know, that's all rhythm and timing and being able to set guys up. And this will be the first time, like, with Myles Garrett being out, everybody expects him to come and save the day. And I don't know if he can come save the day. It's going to take him some games. And the fact that, you know, they're at risk of going 0-2, and we just talked about how difficult it is to come back from 0-2. They got San Francisco in their division. They've already lost to San Francisco. You've got the world champs in your division. You can't fall too far behind. And Aaron Donald, I don't know how many snaps he's going to be able to get. We all see him working out and rippling steel, ripped up, all that type of stuff. But football shape is something totally different.
01:01:58
Speaker 3: Well, they said it's already come out he's going to be in rotation. I do think if you're the Giants right now, you see where his condition is at. You run the ball right at him. I know Cam Scadable has already come out. Third and one, if he's in the hole, I'm going right at him.
01:02:12
Speaker 1: That's fine. But here's the thing. I don't know if I'm going with Scadable. Who would you go? I'm going with that offset.
01:02:19
Speaker 2: We wham blocking. We wham blocking, baby.
01:02:21
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know anything like that.
01:02:23
Speaker 2: My bad, my bad. That wham block?
01:02:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:26
Speaker 2: And he outweighs Aaron Donald? I ain't blocking him. I'm letting him come out.
01:02:29
Speaker 1: You said something.
01:02:29
Speaker 3: I do think if you're the Rams, and we talked about, all the pieces they acquired in the offseason, especially– McDuffie. McDuffie, Watson, Miles Garrett. And the way you lost against Sam Friend, you lose Miles Garrett. In fact, they have Brandon Fisk and they have Kobe Turner and a bunch of those guys, so they still have a D-line. But if Aaron Donald doesn't pop off the tape and doesn't produce, you don't have a leader right now.
01:02:56
Speaker 1: You don't have a face of your defense that– Because think about it. You said that me and you have talked about this before.
01:03:03
Speaker 2: Ernest Jones, maybe. Right.
01:03:05
Speaker 3: But those guys aren't just great at being great. They're great because they close games.
01:03:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:03:10
Speaker 3: So you don't have a closer in Myles Garrett. And now you potentially don't have a closer in Aaron Donald because he's been out of the game for two years.
01:03:17
Speaker 1: Okay.
01:03:17
Speaker 3: So who's finishing the games for the Rams? Because you know the Rams, I think offensively will be fine.
01:03:22
Speaker 2: See, this is the crazy part, right? And listen, I witnessed this, and you witnessed this, right? You got certain teams that can deflate a goddamn football.
01:03:34
Speaker 1: And the New York Giants can deflate a football. You ain't lying. This can mess around and be an 80 play.
01:03:39
Speaker 2: They will go two yards, two yards, three yards, and go for it. So we saw the Dallas Cowboys got two possessions in the second half. Like, hardball is going to make this a physical dogfight. So Aaron Donald may be in rotation, but he might get all his plays in in the first half. This could be.
01:03:59
Speaker 1: A 45-50 play first half.
01:04:02
Speaker 2: This could be a 16-18 play drive where they just grind the shit out of you. And then Aaron Donald, you know, when that check engine light come on, brother, that shit is on, and it don't turn off until the next time. And then you're in survival mode. Yeah. And now you got this big-ass fullback, Ricard, fucking leaning on Aaron Donald.
01:04:22
Speaker 3: And then he's going against a young dog named CeCe Mano, who they put at the right guard. So he's going to be itching to get after it. I do say this for the Giants' defense, because they're a little light in the secondary. Deontay Banks won't be playing for them. They're going to, I'm telling you right now, the Giants will eliminate Puka Nakur.
01:04:37
Speaker 1: They're going to take away his staff.
01:04:38
Speaker 2: He might not even play.
01:04:39
Speaker 1: Right.
01:04:40
Speaker 2: He's questionable.
01:04:40
Speaker 1: He is questionable.
01:04:41
Speaker 3: But if he does, they're going to say, hey, man, We're not going to let Puka beat us. Figure it out with your tight ends and whoever else.
01:04:47
Speaker 1: This kind of brings up another question for me.
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Speaker 2: Like, who was a great player that was on his side of being washed that you couldn't wait to go against that you kind of served up? And it was like, oh, I served his ass up. Like, nobody believed I would serve this dude up. In his heyday, he would have killed me.
01:05:07
Speaker 1: Willie McGinnis.
01:05:08
Speaker 2: Oh, he got Willie. But, hey, let me say this. Cleveland Willie McGinnis? Cleveland. Still had that man strength.
01:05:13
Speaker 1: But let me tell you this. He was no Hodo.
01:05:15
Speaker 2: He was still about that smoke. He didn't have to wiggle like he used to. And, you know, I was a short tackle, so everything was jump set.
01:05:24
Speaker 1: I played like Jason Peters.
01:05:26
Speaker 2: But... When he got mad, though, there was a couple of plays where the dog kind of twitched back on. I'm like, oh, they all like you said you all.
01:05:35
Speaker 3: But I was excited to play against him because he was William McGinnis and Jason Taylor. Jason Taylor was interesting. Late with us? No, I played with him when he was a Dolphin. But what was interesting when he was a Dolphin, I never played against somebody who methodically set you up.
01:05:54
Speaker 1: Like he would do things to think you got away with it.
01:05:56
Speaker 3: And he'd be like, I'm going to do this. And then he would just, he'd be like, oh shit. So Jason, shout out to JT. He was a dog too. But yeah, those are probably the two.
01:06:03
Speaker 2: Mine might've been the bus. Jerome Bettis? Yeah. You would've smoked with the bus? But why JB? Obviously because in the division. Because you know, he was our hero.
01:06:16
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay. I used to do the Jerome Bennett's camp. You know what I'm saying?
01:06:19
Speaker 2: Like, when I came in, like, my first couple years, he was still the OG, and then he was near the end of his career.
01:06:25
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying?
01:06:26
Speaker 2: Like, he wasn't the bust that was running over everybody. He still had it and brought it. But I felt good. Like, yo, like, yo, craziest shit ever, man. Like, so you know me. I'm talking shit, right? And I don't know if Mike Tomlin was. He never played for Mike Tomlin, did he? No, I didn't.
01:06:41
Speaker 1: No, no. So this was with Bill Cowher. But I'm me now. I'm a little better.
01:06:46
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Prime Bart. I'm not prime. I'm pre-prime.
01:06:48
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
01:06:49
Speaker 2: I'm pre-prime. I ran on a cusp, probably. And I can remember, man. It's like four from one. And me and this dumb motherfucker, me and him out here, you know me arguing. How people allow me to draw them into dumbass arguments is ridiculous. Because you don't shut up. People forget why they're arguing with you, but you keep going. That's happened to me. I've argued with Bart on the field. Like, we don't sit, cut, dog, cuss, fuck you. Like, fuck you, you fat nigga. I'm like, bro, you mumbling all this stuff. We'll go up with two scores.
01:07:17
Speaker 3: And now my mind is like, all right, I just want to finish the game without getting hurt.
01:07:20
Speaker 5: And Bart be like, nah, I'm still looking at you, you fat motherfucker.
01:07:24
Speaker 2: Shut up already. This is over. I don't want to keep arguing with you. So listen. So we out there, and it's four for one. And I'm like, bring your fat ass across the line. I'm going to fuck you up, boss.
01:07:32
Speaker 1: You telling?
01:07:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is me talking to the boss.
01:07:34
Speaker 1: Your hometown hero.
01:07:35
Speaker 2: Yeah. You talking shit to your hometown hero. We put on the mother's uniform. I'm going to fuck who you are. You know what I'm saying? He's like, fuck you, bitch. Like, we going at it. Like, we out there. It's like a TV time. We draw lines. I'm like, draw a line. He draw a line.
01:07:50
Speaker 1: You draw a line. I draw a line.
01:07:51
Speaker 2: I said, Corbin, bring your fat ass out here. Me and you, motherfucking hoe, what's up? I don't know what he went and told Bill Cowher, right? So, like, yo, I'm like, because, you know, I'm always to the bubble. Yeah, Ray ain't to the bubble. I'm always to the bubble. For everybody for the bubble, you know, like, you have a man here and a guy outside of him. You got a man here and a guy inside of him. Ain't shit in between us, but air and motherfucking opportunity, right? Four for one. Ben put the motherfucking ball out. I'm coming out of it. Chug, chug. Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. This fat motherfucker, man, hits me with the. I was like, oh shit.
01:08:28
Speaker 5: This fat motherfucker got a ball. It's a play fake. I was like, you bitch. I was like, you motherfucker. This motherfucker like, he.
01:08:40
Speaker 2: Running to the flats, fucking bid, he forgot, he can't catch. Thank God he didn't get that motherfucker.
01:08:46
Speaker 1: Oh, he dropped the ball?
01:08:46
Speaker 2: Oh, he dropped it? Yeah, he dropped that bitch.
01:08:48
Speaker 1: Oh.
01:08:48
Speaker 2: But man, I was like, you punk motherfucker. Here I am, ready for all the smoke, same way I'm telling Dan Crowder. Bitch, meet me right here. I'ma be right here. Me and you, motherfucker. We on down today! Yeah, yeah. care if I die I don't care if I die throw me in the jail throw away the key this motherfucker hit me with the R2L2 I say this motherfucker man that shit was the funniest shit in the world the one.
01:09:11
Speaker 3: Person I did I kind of wish I would have had an opportunity we probably wouldn't warrant Sap because Sap was.
01:09:17
Speaker 1: So like, Sap was him. Like he just was. But to like have- He.
01:09:21
Speaker 2: Retired and then went to Oakland and we realized he had already put his papers in. Right. Sap chalked it up.
01:09:30
Speaker 1: We're going to get out of here. Prediction, who you got? Rams or Giants? I'm going with the Giants, man.
01:09:36
Speaker 2: And I think New York's going to be on fire, man, because I think this is just a bad matchup. Hardball, like Mike Tomlin.
01:09:43
Speaker 1: They are in New York tonight, right?
01:09:45
Speaker 2: No, no, they're in LA. They're in LA. For me, it's certain coaches that can just ugly a damn game up. You want to go out there and box and be pretty, and I think the Rams want to be pretty. They want to put points up. They ain't about that gritty life. You know what I mean? And I think the Giants are going to come in there and make them play a style that they don't really want to play and they're not prepared to play. because they can't exploit it, especially if Puka's not able to be. People don't forget, Puka's big in the run game, too. Getting the ball in his hands. He's basically like a little Debo Samuel in his prime, and he's hard to match up against. With that, I think you can really double Adams and really limit the Rams and what they're able to do.
01:10:23
Speaker 1: I want to believe in the Giants.
01:10:24
Speaker 3: I just feel like this matchup, considering for the Rams, watching a lot of teams who would contend to be 0-2 right now, that scares the shit out of them. I think McVay, Stafford, Aaron, the emotional baggage that Aaron Donald brings to the table.
01:10:43
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are light in the secondary. I'm going Rams. And then Giants going to the West Coast.
01:10:49
Speaker 2: Maybe too much for this young team. But it's not a short week. So they've been out there, right? So they got time to have this Monday night game. It's different if it's a Sunday night game. They went out there early. They had the late practice. They acclimated.
01:11:01
Speaker 1: I wish we had a Kelsey thing.
01:11:02
Speaker 2: We should have, like, a show gambling pot where we kind of, like, try and gamble on stuff.
01:11:08
Speaker 1: I bet you that the defense is announced tonight. What do you mean? Because Aaron Donald's coming. So defense, you know.
01:11:14
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Starting lineup.
01:11:16
Speaker 1: Starting lineup. Yeah, I expect that.
01:11:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would want to bet on that.
01:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:21
Speaker 2: All right. Week two in the books, Bart and Willie. By the way, thank you for everybody that continues to support.
01:11:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, love. Continue to comment, like, and follow. Subscribe. Thank you.
01:11:32
Speaker 3: Shout out to the beautiful people at Playmaker, and I give a shout out at the beginning of the show. Thank you to our producer, Nutter, and Tony on behind the mic. And I know how we're going to get our gambling money for the show. We're going to put that shirt on the real, real. Bart and his part-time owner B outfit. We want to say goodbye.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: Love you. Till next time.
01:11:53
Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah. This has been a Playmaker Production.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is the biggest injury out of the guys I just ripped off?
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Speaker 2: I mean, by far, in my opinion, it has to be Caleb Williams because they're the team that has the biggest aspirations, right? Welcome to the Bart and Willie show episode.
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Speaker 1: What number is this?
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Speaker 2: It don't matter.
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Speaker 1: It don't matter. Trace, whatever. Trace, as Bart would say.
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Speaker 2: A lot to talk about in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Crazy weekend.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but we've lost some very good quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: In the league. And it's going to be interesting.
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Speaker 3: We always like to start Monday's show off with dumping in a bucket. We spend two minutes ranting and raving about anything and everything. That's on our mind, heart, and chest. I'm going to go. You want to go first or you want me to go first?
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Speaker 2: Please, indulge. I'm going to go first.
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Speaker 1: You ready? Are we doing the buzzer? There's no buzzer.
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Speaker 4: You want buzzer?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can rock the buzzer.
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Speaker 4: Let's rock the buzzer.
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Speaker 2: We'll go ahead and start talking, and he'll throw me the buzzer. So this happens. So a couple things.
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Speaker 3: One, if you go to a restaurant that has a kid's menu, you should not be annoyed that there's kids in the restaurant. So I got a call yesterday while we were on air, while we were halftime, because I know you were traveling back from the stadium. So my wife calls me, and she goes, I just want to talk to you because I got to come down.
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Speaker 1: I got to breathe a little bit. I'm like, what's going on?
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Speaker 3: So, supposedly, after church, my family's having brunch, and my son is at the table doing, you know, just being a kid, right? Talking loud or whatever, whatever. Some woman next to him, right? Some white woman, to be honest. I know race shouldn't matter, but I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Going to let it.
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Speaker 2: Karen. Just say Karen.
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Speaker 1: We know you, and you got to say white. Bro, the woman taps my son on the shoulder, though.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you touched somebody's kid.
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Speaker 1: Yes, mother.
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Speaker 3: She tapped my son on the shoulder and was like, you're talking too loud.
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Speaker 1: You need to be calm.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So not even that, bro.
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Speaker 1: So my wife, so my wife, so what happens, Mike, so my son, he, you know, it's an adult. You know, he's six years old. He retreats.
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Speaker 3: He puts his head on the table. There's three adults at the table. It's my wife, my sister-in-law, and her cousin. And so my son is now like, you know, he feels bad. So my wife is, at this point, she done fucked the wrong one. So my wife goes nuclear on this lady. And the lady starts getting scared and she retreats a little bit. But I just thought to my, and my wife wanted to do more. And I was just, and I'm glad she didn't. But to say all that, I think adults, when they go to these restaurants, and if you're annoyed with the presence of kids around you, First of all, that's your fault, right? Because if there's an option for chicken tenders, french fries, a small pizza, and a macaroni cheese, kids are going to be there. Now, I am the type of parent, I do not believe my kids should interfere with your experience or what you got going on at your table.
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Speaker 1: I don't allow my kids to run through the house.
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Speaker 3: I do not allow my kids to, you know, like sometimes look over and bother you while you're eating.
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Speaker 2: Because sometimes if you're in a conversation with whoever, you don't want some kid kind of nagging. So I'm very, I monitor my kids.
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Speaker 3: But I also know some folks don't monitor their kids. But I'm also conscious, if you don't want to be around kids, don't go to a kid-friendly restaurant. So it was interesting that adults at this stage... And I asked my wife, I was like, how old was she? She was like, Willie, this was a grown woman. She looked like she could have been in her 50s. And I guess the lady was at brunch with her mother. And the mother, to my wife's... My wife's telling me the story. the grandmother, whoever she was, was trying to kind of temper the situation. And I could hear, but you know how somebody's so mad you could hear them shaking over the phone?
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Speaker 2: Because you know, usually, even if you touch my kid, that usually comes with an ass kicking.
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Speaker 1: And you feel like, man, I got to go back. I let this Karen punk me.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, I tell people all the time, you pull your camera out if you want to. I'm not that type of black guy. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to film you back. I'm going to beat the dog out of you. I'm going to dog walk you. And then we hope that I in the sky show what happened because I don't give a fuck. Sue me, go to prison, whatever. I'm going to put these holy hands on your ass. I just couldn't, like, the audacity.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: And I understand because of social media and whatever. I think people are just, they've lost the nerve when it comes to kids. But to touch somebody else's kid It's absolutely, it was atrocious. So that's what I'm dumping in a bucket. Keep your hands off the other people's kids. If you don't like being around kids, don't go to kid-friendly places, and you won't have those issues.
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Willie, because my kids are older than yours, right? And that grandmother knew that that daughter that touched your son was once a kid.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes when we're so far removed.
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Speaker 2: From being a kid or having kids, we forget how difficult it is to be a parent and trying to control a kid and making kids understand timing.
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Speaker 1: You're raising your kids. So you're teaching them manners.
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Speaker 2: You're teaching them how you're supposed to behave in certain places and stuff like that. And you only do that by putting them in those environments and experiences. Like I'm never the guy that's going to trip when I'm on an airplane and a kid is on there and he's crying. Because I don't know what that kid is dealing with. I don't know if it's ears, he can't, you know, the air pressure, if they can understand that.
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Speaker 4: The kid doesn't know what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Yes, being confined in a tube. So I'm never the guy that's going to complain. And if I hear somebody complaining, I'm going to say something. You know what I'm saying? Because we all got to be tolerant of each other because we're all in different processes and different stages of our lives. she's better than me, bro. Like... Well, she.
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Speaker 1: I could tell... She felt.
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Speaker 2: Like she could.
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Speaker 1: She wanted to go back and find this person.
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Speaker 2: And she wanted, like, if she can do some celebrity boxing, sign a waiver, you can't sue my husband. She won't put them holy hands. She want to baptize that bitch. I guarantee you. I already know. And my wife just left church. So having God on your heart... God's not giving me the spirit of fear.
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Speaker 3: And I could hear in her voice, like, I've seen my wife... in the last two years go nuclear. She's always up my ass and bothering, yelling at me. But to see somebody where they're like, well, if my wife is yelling, that's her calm. If she's quiet, that's her kill mode.
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Speaker 4: That's the eye of the storm right there.
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Speaker 3: That's her.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring Willie down.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Bring Willie down.
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Speaker 1: See, I had something that I was about to, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: What I was going to say, what I was going to dump in the butt, because it was a pretty tired day, but really brought up a period of mine, right? So I was traveling and I had somebody traveling with me and we were going and my biggest issue is on a plane when people think that their time is more important than yours. Now, I'm landing and I'm late. I mean, I'm running late because the plane is late and I got to go shoot live on TV. And I'm not the person that say, excuse me, can I get to the front? Nothing like that, right? What I hate is when somebody all the way in the back of the plane... Like 31B, you know what I'm saying? You touching the bathroom. And I'm in like, I think I was in first class, right? And all I hear is like, because I always got my earphones on, one, because I don't want nobody to talk to me sometimes, but two, I can be observant because people think I got the ears on, but I really sometimes don't have sound on, but I can hear everything, right? So like, all I'm hearing is commotion, like, excuse me, excuse me.
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Speaker 1: And it's this dude, he like, bum-rushing by everybody, right? And so I'm like, nah, nah, brother. I'm already late.
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Speaker 2: And now this dude think he getting to the front? So we all standing up. And I'm the type of dude that don't stand up because it's stupid. Well, I'm going to stand up when I know it's already a big-ass crowd. I know I ain't going nowhere. I hate when people do that on the airplane. Like, everybody got to get up as soon as the plane. Bro, they ain't even brought the thing to connect to the plane yet. A lot of times you do that too fast, they make you sit back down. Right, they ain't unlocked anything. But everybody up. But I'm in the aisle, right? So then all I hear, I hear all this commotion, right? So I'm like, I see him too.
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Speaker 1: Like, not today, brother. Especially not when I'm late, bitch. So I stand up, right?
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Speaker 2: So I stand up.
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Speaker 1: So you swell up on him.
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Speaker 2: No, no, I stand up. So seriously, he was like, so I stand in the middle of the aisle. He give me a, excuse me, brother. I say, no, brother.
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Speaker 1: I say, man, you got to wait just like me.
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Speaker 2: He's like, excuse me. So then I'm like, hold up, brother. I put that chicken wing out there. No, no, no, for the back. I put it out there, but it's strong as hell. You know what I'm saying? He's like... Oh, so you're saying it's bone-in?
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Speaker 4: Bone-in?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I'm sitting, nah, nah, and swallowing up the lats like I'm doing, like I'm on, like, the Arnold Classic. Like Bolo from Bloodsport.
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Speaker 4: Like the chick from High Rocks that's gonna shit herself.
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Speaker 1: So I turn around, right? Like, brother, you're gonna wait just like everybody else, bro. He's over there, like.
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Speaker 2: This is a straight white, no, he like a dude like scruffy beard, had the fat goose coat on from Harlem. What's up, son? Yeah, he went, I'm a thug. So he bullied all these people going by, pushing old people, scooting them by and all that type of stuff.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, hell no. So I turn around.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you're going to wait just like everybody else. Your time ain't no more important than mine. He start clapping, right? Yo, what's up, son? I say, man, this ain't what you want. You know what I'm saying? Then he started to act like he reached into the stage like, bro, we all got cleared by TSA. You ain't got nothing, dog. You know what I'm saying? Willie, when I tell you I picked this motherfucker up and pinned him against, like, you know the top of the plane?
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Speaker 1: This is in the plane?
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Speaker 2: In the plane.
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Speaker 1: Wait, you did this?
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Speaker 2: Yes. I picked this motherfucker up and pinned him up and then bent him over the seat like this.
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Speaker 1: Like, man, I say, motherfucker, this ain't what you want.
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Speaker 2: Trust me. And the fucking flight attendant came. I don't know, like, if she's dealing with, like, body by Jake. She jumped up in the middle and landed her feet in the middle. Like, no!
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Speaker 1: Like, she landed on both, like.
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Speaker 2: Things, her feet.
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Speaker 1: Like, no!
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? She's like, sir, just go, just go.
00:09:53
Speaker 1: Like, and the person I was with looked at me like, they ain't never seen me like that.
00:09:58
Speaker 2: Like, I told you. I told you what I'm diagnosed with. Impulsive explosive disorder. I'm calm, but when I'm not calm, ain't shit nobody can do about it. Right?
00:10:09
Speaker 1: So then, so this motherfucker's like, oh.
00:10:11
Speaker 2: You gonna put your hands on me, son? Yo, put your hands on me!
00:10:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you.
00:10:15
Speaker 4: Give this guy's itinerary about, like, why was he in a hurry? Did anyone ask him?
00:10:18
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck. It don't even matter. I know it doesn't matter. He just thought he's better than everybody. Right, right, right.
00:10:24
Speaker 4: I was just curious.
00:10:25
Speaker 1: So, like, he said, you gonna.
00:10:26
Speaker 2: Pay me over like that like I'm some bitch? I said, yes.
00:10:29
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:10:29
Speaker 2: You're fucking right. So, like, I'm out there now, like, but they ain't let me get my bag. They said, sir, you got to leave. So, now I'm waiting outside the plane.
00:10:36
Speaker 1: So, now you're waiting. Because the person I'm with still got to come, too. Yeah.
00:10:39
Speaker 2: So, he come out, right?
00:10:41
Speaker 1: So, you know, he got his boys with him, too. Like, his boys. He came out, pinned his ass up. You know the little thing? Oh, you went after him again.
00:10:47
Speaker 2: Because I was still there waiting. I still, I'm hot now. Like I told you, when I'm there, I'm there. Mm-hmm. We walking out like the plane. So I'm waiting because I got to get my bag, right? And the person I'm with, they got to get my bag and their bag, their carry-on, right? So he coming and he walk out and he mumbled something. Grabbed his ass again. Picked his ass up this time against him. Banged his ass against the rail thing. He's like, son, you don't do me like that, son. You don't do me like that.
00:11:12
Speaker 1: Like I'm a.
00:11:13
Speaker 2: And then his boys came. I said, Dave's like, he wrong. That would have been the end of my friendship. If you see me get jumped up and you don't jump on him, we're never going to be friends again. They're like, he was wrong. We're sorry, big dog. You know what I'm saying? And then the dudes walking by, they was like, I don't know why he did that. If he.
00:11:32
Speaker 1: He should have just looked at your back. I had on like this yellow, like, you know what I mean?
00:11:36
Speaker 2: I be wearing like cashmere and shit. I had on like a yellow cashmere, like, like Lord Piani, some shit. He's like, man, you don't never fuck with no nigga that stood up with no goddamn Lord Piani, with no goddamn yellow shirt on. You knew that motherfucker somebody. I was like, man. So yeah.
00:11:49
Speaker 1: I had to dump that in the bucket, man. I mean, I've been in therapy.
00:11:52
Speaker 2: I've been trying. No, for real, man. I'm in therapy. Willie, you know I do therapy, man. No, some people need that.
00:12:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's good for you. Let it out, man.
00:12:03
Speaker 1: This is the problem, right?
00:12:05
Speaker 2: My diagnosis and who I am as a person, I went out to the Jets thing and on the Jumbotron yesterday, they put Matt Backer, right? Because everybody knows I'm like that. I'm calm, but I'm like that. And The issue is, like, in football, for me, the violent response is always to correct one.
00:12:21
Speaker 1: Like, if you get pissed off... It's justified.
00:12:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get your ass kicked in football, you being more violent is fine.
00:12:26
Speaker 1: Right, right. Like, so, like, you can.
00:12:28
Speaker 2: You can hide, like, these impulses and these fucking... Like, that's why it's so hard for me every day. That's why I go to the gym so much, Willie. Because I got this rage and this violence in me that it never goes anywhere. And sometimes I just want to choke the shit out of somebody. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes.
00:12:40
Speaker 3: It's like that part in Avengers when Captain America talks to the Hulk.
00:12:43
Speaker 4: I'm going to be in the other room. I'm just going to.
00:12:44
Speaker 2: No, I'm just.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: No, it's like that part when Captain America tells Bruce Banner, he goes, this is the time to get angry.
00:12:51
Speaker 1: He goes, that's my secret. I'm always angry.
00:12:53
Speaker 2: That's me, man. I damn near teared up when I saw that shit. I was like, he understands me.
00:12:59
Speaker 4: That was written just for you, bro.
00:13:00
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to smash myself. Let's go. Week two. It's in the books, man. A lot to talk about.
00:13:08
Speaker 3: We always like to start this segment with biggest winners and biggest losers.
00:13:14
Speaker 1: Bart, I'm going to lean on you real quick.
00:13:16
Speaker 2: I'll go.
00:13:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to go biggest winners. You're not going to like this, Bart.
00:13:20
Speaker 3: The biggest winner for me this weekend, and there's a couple candidates, I'm going to go New Orleans Saints.
00:13:26
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints beat the Baltimore Ravens.
00:13:28
Speaker 4: As a team, collectively?
00:13:29
Speaker 3: You have to understand. Tyler Shuck, baby. Tyler Shuck. and what Kellen Moore and what this team is becoming. First of all, fuck the Ravens for life. I love Bart, but fuck the Ravens for life, right? But Baltimore... We'll be okay. No, y'all going to be more than okay. You said something last week. You was like, though, you don't want me to start talking about my Ravens. And I was like, yeah, I get it. The Ravens look scary, bro. And because Lamar Jackson, Valley, he didn't have the best game. But how they look as a team, they look like they're primed for January. So I'm not worried about the Ravens. I can see them winning the division. Metta B can't be back.
00:14:03
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Berbers are going to be primed. But what I have to compliment the Saints about, compliment the Saints for, because Tyler Shuck, man, and that team in the second half of that game, and what he did in the fourth quarter.
00:14:16
Speaker 1: He had, I used.
00:14:17
Speaker 2: 27 for 34, 252 yards, touchdown, no interception.
00:14:21
Speaker 1: He was sacked three times.
00:14:22
Speaker 3: But when you talk about what they're able to do, they had a, if you know, if you follow me and Bart, or SMY, Bart talks about the pony package.
00:14:30
Speaker 1: They whipped out the pony package. Travis Etienne and Alvin Kamara, man.
00:14:34
Speaker 2: To see Travis Etienne, to see Alvin Kamara, to see this big-ass tight end, Juan Johnson, looks like a thoroughbred, dog. Bro, bro, he's shredded like a joke, man. He looked like Vernon Davis when Vernon Davis first came out at 264.3. Bro, he looked like Kevin Willis.
00:14:51
Speaker 3: He looked like Kevin Willis catching the football. So, absolute dog, child of shock, absolute dog. Kellen Moore, that offense and what they're becoming. And defensively, first of all, I didn't know.
00:15:01
Speaker 2: It's two weeks in a row.
00:15:02
Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row.
00:15:03
Speaker 2: But I didn't know Brandon Staley was defense coordinator for them. Ah, makes sense. Makes sense.
00:15:07
Speaker 3: So they're getting home with four and three. And the secondary is playing legit. And to go into Baltimore, get into a dogfight. And by the way, something that we've seen around the league, these quarterbacks, when they slide, some are going for the first down and others are retreating. This dude in the second half of that game, was going for every inch, every blade of grass.
00:15:30
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield style.
00:15:31
Speaker 1: Yes, he was diving for it.
00:15:32
Speaker 2: He's the captain of that team. And this is why when you talk about.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: Some of these young quarterbacks like the Drake Mays, the Jackson Darts, he's honestly in that conversation.
00:15:42
Speaker 1: He's showing that you can put the franchise on his back.
00:15:45
Speaker 3: And going into Baltimore, beating the Ravens in a dramatic fashion.
00:15:50
Speaker 2: I got the Saints as the biggest one. First of all, I cannot believe Nathan Shepard is still in the league. Still in the league, yeah. You talk about, I love him to death, man. First of all, he was like 30 when he got in the league. Didn't he play with you?
00:16:01
Speaker 1: He ain't got a half a sack.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: He wasn't there with you in New York?
00:16:06
Speaker 1: Man, that dude is old as dog shit. Straight out of Canada. And he been stealing for a while, man.
00:16:11
Speaker 2: I don't know who gives me more agitated watching him as a former Jet. Him or the other dude, little ice kid dude, Solomon Thomas. I don't know which one of them get out of my skin. I don't know which one of them get out of my skin the worst, man. But I tell you what, what Kellen Moore is doing there, I mean, they're legitimate, especially with Tampa being 0-2. They're legitimate candidates to win that division. The Panthers are up and down. But you talk about what they did week one in that huge comeback. And I think something like Tyler. And they were only a play away from winning that game. Yeah, I think Tyler Shuck is like the leading quarterback, fourth quarter quarterback in the league right now.
00:16:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed in the fourth quarter.
00:16:48
Speaker 2: And that's what gets so frustrating for me as a Jets fan is that Teams like New Orleans can find a franchise quarterback in the third, fourth round, second round. They get lucky.
00:16:58
Speaker 1: You look at Dallas. They find Dak Prescott.
00:17:02
Speaker 2: In the fourth. They find Tony Romo. Yeah. See, but those are first-round draft picks. I'm talking about guys that find people like in the fourth, third round. They become your franchise quarterback.
00:17:10
Speaker 4: I mean, Brock Purdy, too.
00:17:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like some bullshit. Like, Brock Purdy saved John Lynch's job because he should have got fired for that Trey Lance shit.
00:17:18
Speaker 1: Like, that usually gets you fired.
00:17:19
Speaker 2: Like, you trade up, give up a whole bunch of future assets for a guy, and then he can't play.
00:17:24
Speaker 1: I don't even know if Trey Lance is even in the league. I was just about to say, first of all, I don't think I've ever seen him play an official game. We'll get to that.
00:17:30
Speaker 4: We'll get to that.
00:17:31
Speaker 3: But, yeah, so the Saints, for me, defensively, offensively, they cook. They beat the Baltimore Ravens. There was some, you know.
00:17:38
Speaker 2: I mean, you could have went some other place, but I knew what you were doing. You were talking about your guy getting past the Spencer yesterday, almost losing the top of his damn head.
00:17:47
Speaker 1: No, it was ugly for my Steelers yesterday. Biggest winner for you, Bar.
00:17:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Yeah, for me, shout out to Terrific Tom and what's going on in Las Vegas. I mean, quietly, secretly, the Raiders are 2-0. And they're playing well. Kirk Cousins is just what I think a guy like Mendoza needs. You don't have to force him into the game right now. You talk about what he was able to do, play, distribute the football. They're playing inspired. He's dealing. He's dealing.
00:18:20
Speaker 1: So right now, I think the Las.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders deserves to get– we don't know how long it's going to last, but it's not like they're beating some horrible teams. And we'll get to that team because that team that they played is on my other list.
00:18:34
Speaker 1: Mine's two, so I guess we're going to be.
00:18:35
Speaker 3: So it's interesting because I think we can roll right into it because the– so the Chargers, right, they're my biggest losers and they're your biggest losers.
00:18:44
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:18:45
Speaker 1: The issue with that game, I don't know if the.
00:18:47
Speaker 3: Raiders look that good or the Chargers are currently that bad because what we're– so what we're looking at right now is an offense led by Mike Medea and Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert turned over the fumble three times. The operation throughout the game was sloppy as hell. The offensive line, by the way, healthy. All had multiple penalties. Rashawn Slater didn't play well. Amari and Hampton coughed up the ball.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: They leaned on him at times. Defensively, they can get off the field on third down.
00:19:16
Speaker 3: And if you're starting to look at this, I think, I don't know if you've ever been, I guess you are because he was a Raven.
00:19:21
Speaker 2: And he was a Jets. And you were with the Jets when they were good.
00:19:24
Speaker 3: Have you ever gone into a season where there's been so much hype? so much like where this team could be that you guys drank it all early and tripped out early?
00:19:34
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was the third year we threw Santonio Holmes off the huddle and stuff like that because we're coming off of two back-to-back AFC championships. We just, we were so tired. We was like, man, like, we we didn't respect the regular season the way we needed to. Cause we were like, Hey man, well, we'll just figure a way out. We just want to get back to the playoffs with a real tournament starts. And we, we were disappointed in a couple of games in the Ravens where we, you know, one, one year, then next year we were just God awful. A couple of injuries happen, things like that. Some key free agents that you don't think that you really need, but this is unforeseen. I mean, you think Harbaugh, Third year is usually when he's taking that big leap, brothers, with the University of Michigan team. or whether it was with the San Francisco 49ers, you think, just like his brother, wherever he's at, you expect the team to be good and respectable.
00:20:23
Speaker 1: Right now, I don't recognize his team. I wonder if it's an identity.
00:20:26
Speaker 2: Crisis with Josh McDaniels, because this used to be a team that used to run the ball, physicality. Yeah, Mike McDaniels, physicality, Greg Roman, all that type of stuff. And we see that physicality in the run game. From that, we see that transfer over to the Giants, because the Giants look more like what we've seen from San Diego as far as the toughness of running the ball than they did. I don't know if he's trying to take a team that's usually built on being a TRX and starting to make them, trying to make them a Corvette.
00:20:53
Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
00:20:54
Speaker 3: So Greg Roman, their old offensive coordinator guy, can because they couldn't score, right? I think they put up 50 points in that playoff game, and it was like, that's not good enough.
00:21:02
Speaker 1: Get out of here. The Chargers have scored no more than 14 points in back-to-back weeks. Yeah. You get what I'm saying?
00:21:08
Speaker 3: And now you're looking at Justin Herbert and– He doesn't look like himself. And what's interesting about him and Amari and Hampton, they aren't bad, but they aren't great. When you give somebody $ 250 million, you want to see a Josh.
00:21:21
Speaker 3: Allen-type performance when your team isn't playing well and he hasn't been able to deliver.
00:21:24
Speaker 1: So this is the thing that I always fight against, right?
00:21:27
Speaker 2: Because at first, I felt like it was Trevor Lawrence that, man, this dude is just a disappointment.
00:21:31
Speaker 1: He's not what we thought he was.
00:21:32
Speaker 2: But at that same time, Justin Herbert, he's had Anthony Lynn, he's had Staley, and now.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: He has Harbaugh. Like, we dubbed him as, like, the next guy, right?
00:21:44
Speaker 2: Because, like, I think his statistics before this year was, Only Patrick Mahomes had thrown for more yards in the period in which he had been in the NFL. But something happens to him. We talk about clutch gene all the time. Something happens to him when we get into those clutch moments. I mean, remember, he was up 28 to nothing on Jacksonville and found a way to lose. He finds ways to lose games in pivotal moments. He hasn't had that get over the hump type of game.
00:22:13
Speaker 1: Well, let me say this. He's old at this point. He's not a kid anymore. No, he's not.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: But I've seen moments where he's definitely put the team on his back. The issue with him right now, and I think, and maybe you can attest to this, When you go through so much trauma in your early years as a ball player and you deliver time after time and then now the team is good, you wonder how much does he really have left in the tank.
00:22:36
Speaker 1: You understand, this man was sacked a lot. He was hit a lot. Back-to-back years, the offensive line just failed him.
00:22:42
Speaker 3: So now that the offensive line is healthy, he looks like he may have some pieces around him. Now you start to see maybe, are we looking at Justin Herbert on decline right now?
00:22:52
Speaker 1: And the only reason I say this is because think about this. And Nutter, if you can, put up the schedule. Oh, for the... This year's Chargers.
00:22:58
Speaker 2: They played the Arizona Cardinals. They can be 0-7. That's where I'm going. They can be 0-7.
00:23:04
Speaker 1: So the Arizona Cardinals, and they lost to the Raiders. Raiders.
00:23:08
Speaker 2: Those are supposed to be wins. Those are supposed to be wins. Their next games are the Bills, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs... Rams. Rams and Texans.
00:23:17
Speaker 1: Ravens and Texans. Am I looking at that right?
00:23:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, Texans, then Ravens.
00:23:20
Speaker 2: Yep. Right. And so... They could lose all those. They could lose all those games. They were my Super Bowl contender.
00:23:27
Speaker 1: And the Jets ain't an easy win anymore.
00:23:29
Speaker 2: Right.
00:23:30
Speaker 3: You can't just walk up on the Jets anymore. They'll put up a fight. So you're talking about an outfit right now led by Harbaugh. I don't know if.
00:23:39
Speaker 2: If they don't do what they need to do to turn this around, could they be looking for a new head coach?
00:23:43
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to get to this probably later, but... Their only easy game is the Dolphins.
00:23:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:23:49
Speaker 4: Two days after Christmas.
00:23:50
Speaker 1: And we talk about... I had to win in the division, but.
00:23:53
Speaker 2: We talk about 0-2 teams. And I mean, now the Kansas City Chiefs look unstoppable now.
00:24:00
Speaker 1: Because they got a run game. Yeah, 0-2 teams.
00:24:04
Speaker 4: 10% to 11.5% to make the playoff.
00:24:06
Speaker 2: We got some of the most surprising 0-2 teams in the league, man. You talk about Tampa Bay 0-2. We talk about the Texans 0-2.
00:24:15
Speaker 1: These are all teams that we thought was going to take the next step, man.
00:24:19
Speaker 3: But I think when you look at Mike McDaniels and his offense and what he's been able to.
00:24:23
Speaker 2: Do thus far.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: We thought this was a dream team, man. Not only the dream team.
00:24:27
Speaker 3: You just thought we was going to witness a machine like we watched with Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco.
00:24:31
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this because I think they can't score points because they don't really have a true machine. Ladd McConkie is like a slot guy. Yeah. I'm going to throw this out there. They might need to call the cheater, bro. Excuse me, the Chargers? They need an explosive guy. I know he's still working his way back. He played in his offense.
00:24:54
Speaker 1: The doctor said he won't be ready until October.
00:24:56
Speaker 2: I don't care, but I'm saying he played in his system. Right.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: I don't know how it ended.
00:25:01
Speaker 2: It's not a bad call.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: You got to stretch this. You got to get easy scores, man. But when you turned on the game yesterday, Bart, The X and O's are one thing.
00:25:11
Speaker 2: Sloppy. It was just sloppy. The fumbles. It is early. Some teams suffer from this more than others. Some teams suffer from sloppy play. Some teams suffer from finding your identity and also sloppy play because it usually is an extension of the preseason now.
00:25:29
Speaker 1: Some teams hit the ground rolling. Some teams don't. All right. Week two MVP.
00:25:36
Speaker 4: Um.
00:25:37
Speaker 1: Who did you have still on the show? I love that. I love that he threw it to me because you're still trying to ramble.
00:25:43
Speaker 2: No, I think I have a guy. I mean, the easy person right now is Kenneth Walker. Like, he's the easiest person right now. But just simply for seeing the greatest catch that I think I've ever seen, I'm just going to go ahead and give it to Jamar Chase. I think that's better than Santonio Holmes. That's better than Odell Beckham. That might be one of the most difficult– understanding where you're on the field, toe drag, swag, that I've seen, I think, ever on the football field. It was a filthy catch. No, but it's not the catch. It's the dragging of the feet as you're doing a pirouette.
00:26:20
Speaker 1: You had to see the kid. There was a receiver from there.
00:26:22
Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at that.
00:26:23
Speaker 1: I mean, that's filthy. Bro, but it's the toe. He put the toe down, man.
00:26:27
Speaker 2: Both toes. And twisted.
00:26:29
Speaker 1: And that's against the Texans, man.
00:26:30
Speaker 3: The kid, Corey White, who was a backup receiver for the Raiders, had a hell of a catch against the Chargers.
00:26:36
Speaker 1: Where he pretty much had to twist his body.
00:26:38
Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at that. They look like both feet going to be out.
00:26:41
Speaker 1: It's filthy.
00:26:42
Speaker 3: How did he know where he was? And he controlled the ball on the way down. So I got nothing.
00:26:47
Speaker 1: The Bungles are 2-0, and they play like shit on offense. They didn't play well in back-to-back weeks.
00:26:54
Speaker 2: Right.
00:26:55
Speaker 1: But they're winning. But they're defensive. And that's against the Texans. I don't know. Okay, who's your MVP?
00:27:02
Speaker 2: MVP.
00:27:02
Speaker 1: It was Kenneth Walker. That's why I wanted you to go first.
00:27:04
Speaker 2: Okay, well, go ahead. Yeah, no.
00:27:05
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, man, he runs. Kenneth Walker may die.
00:27:10
Speaker 2: He's not going to die. Man, what do you have, 30 carries? Listen, Kenneth Walker, this is my only concern. I think they have to find somebody to come in and to spell.
00:27:22
Speaker 1: They're going to have to make a trade for somebody. Rather, it's Isaiah Davis from the Jets.
00:27:26
Speaker 2: But they drafted that other one.
00:27:27
Speaker 1: They drafted a kid.
00:27:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. He did his thing. Yeah, number 10. Yeah, that's right.
00:27:31
Speaker 1: But 30 carries, brother? Like, we know. We've seen this. Oh, 24. I'm sorry. So back-to-back weeks over 100 yards.
00:27:39
Speaker 2: He's on pace for that scary-ass 300. Remember, he suffered for injuries early on in his career, and he was trending. I'm scared that while Mahomes is getting back, they're going to wear this kid out.
00:27:53
Speaker 1: Like, we did this to Thomas Jones.
00:27:57
Speaker 2: The year he rushed for like 1,600 yards, we wore his ass out that he really didn't have what he needed for the playoffs. And that's where Sean Green came out. So I don't know if this young kid is going to be the guy. The young kid is coming along well. Right, right.
00:28:09
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the young kid is the guy that was coming.
00:28:11
Speaker 2: What's his name, Nutter?
00:28:12
Speaker 1: So we stopped saying young kid.
00:28:13
Speaker 4: Oh, sorry. I'm looking up Kenneth Walker's injury history.
00:28:16
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, though. Here's the thing, though.
00:28:18
Speaker 5: Like.
00:28:19
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker may get them to the playoffs, but I don't know how much he'll have when he gets there. This young kid will come. But, like, we knew Thomas Jones was only going to be there for another year. We got rid of Thomas Jones. Kenneth Walker, you just invested in him. So we saw Sean Alexander. Oh, Emmitt Johnson, yeah. We saw DeMarco Murray. Like, after you get these heavy carries the next year, you're shot.
00:28:41
Speaker 1: You know why I like a dog like Kenneth Walker?
00:28:44
Speaker 3: Because when you're an offensive lineman, man, you need somebody to get you engaged into.
00:28:53
Speaker 1: The offense, right?
00:28:54
Speaker 3: Because sometimes from an offensive line standpoint, you can dial it up, you pass the ball many times. But to get involved, not only physically but emotionally, when you watch this dude run and you start watching Trey Smith and them boys, they're not just Bowen and Creed Humphries.
00:29:08
Speaker 2: They're not knocking dudes off the ball. They're talking shit.
00:29:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the two best interior things.
00:29:13
Speaker 5: Right.
00:29:14
Speaker 3: But you saw, I'm saying, you saw early the offensive line emotionally get involved with the game.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: That's some Eric the Enemy type stuff.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because Nagy didn't commit to the run like that. You got a former running back that believes in physicality. And say what you want about the enemy. But I'm talking about third and six, we running the ball. Third and whatever, we running the ball. But that's the enemy. So, like, I just hate that he can't get a head coaching job because I hear, he's a bad interviewer.
00:29:41
Speaker 1: It's a perception out there that he's a bad interviewer.
00:29:42
Speaker 3: And nobody knows what that means either because we don't know. Every organization's interview process is different.
00:29:47
Speaker 2: From everybody else's. Well, not everybody interviews well and things like that. I think that's why Andy Reid brought him back because I think Andy Reid, when Andy Reid walks away, he's going to leave the job there for him just like Bruce Aaron left it for him. But that's not even the most impressive person on their team, in my opinion, Willie. The most impressive person on their team is the undrafted rookie left tackle that's putting on a masterclass that's.
00:30:13
Speaker 1: Never played tackle. So much so that you don't know his name and I don't know his name.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: I just know his number. Number 70.
00:30:18
Speaker 3: They talked about him in the telecast, Collinsworth. But remember, they drafted the kid Simmons out of Ohio State.
00:30:24
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:30:24
Speaker 3: And who was supposed to be their anchor. And I know he went through some issues last year and this year.
00:30:29
Speaker 1: The undrafted rookie free agent.
00:30:31
Speaker 4: Khalil Benson.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: Khalil Benson, yeah. Undrafted free agent out there putting on work on the island. Crazy.
00:30:38
Speaker 3: Listen, when Mahomes had the knee injury, you know you needed to do two things. Protection and have a run game. That's why I think the run game right now is not just about Kenneth Walker running the shit out the ball.
00:30:49
Speaker 1: It's the fact, like, it's changing the identity of who they are.
00:30:52
Speaker 3: Where Mahomes now looks like, I can sit in the backseat, and we now have somebody driving the car, which is fucking scary.
00:30:59
Speaker 2: Did you see that scar, too? That's an old-school scar. That's old school. I thought it was more arthroscopic.
00:31:06
Speaker 1: Did you see him run, though? He still has a little gimp.
00:31:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Did you see the gimp?
00:31:10
Speaker 4: Guys, think about it. When he got hurt, was it like a day and a half later, they're like, oh, he's already out of surgery.
00:31:15
Speaker 2: You're like, what?
00:31:16
Speaker 1: Well, because Brady came out. They sprinkle so much ACH in his. Sprinkle, sprinkle. Well, no.
00:31:21
Speaker 3: Then Brady said, you know, they had interviewed Tom Brady when he tore his ACL. And Brady was like, well, as soon as I had the operation, I got right off the table and I went right to work. And I think Patrick Mahomes took on that process. The problem is Tom Brady is a masochist when it comes to his diet.
00:31:37
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was a little chubby. I'm surprised. I'm surprised he didn't get fat. He had to commit because he a dude that, like, we seen the dad buying the 40-ticket shirt. I was like, oh. That boy was thick all over the head. And a lot of times, like, man. He was like Luka. He like Luka. He'll show up skinny.
00:31:54
Speaker 1: He leaving fat. I thought it was the rib protector. Until they did, like, you know how they go to the locker room at the end of a game? And I saw his body. I said, oh, that's really huge.
00:32:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:04
Speaker 1: Oh, you're really out here with that punch.
00:32:05
Speaker 4: He's rocking a cumberbund there, man.
00:32:07
Speaker 1: I can't. Who am I to talk? My quarterback was chubby. I had Ben Robson.
00:32:10
Speaker 4: Real quick, K-9, where does that rank on all-time nickname lists? A pretty dope K-9 for Kenneth Walker. You like that? No, not feeling it?
00:32:18
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.
00:32:19
Speaker 1: I mean, it fits the way he's playing. He's a dog out there right now.
00:32:23
Speaker 2: I feel it, but, like, the only K-9 I know is Bundridge, the boxer from Detroit. You know what I'm saying? So I can't just throw somebody else's nickname out there and take it for your own.
00:32:32
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Gotcha, gotcha.
00:32:33
Speaker 2: You winning the crates for that one. Huh?
00:32:34
Speaker 1: You winning the crates for that one. Well, you know I love boxing, man.
00:32:37
Speaker 2: What's next?
00:32:39
Speaker 4: All right, real quick, I want to touch on this with you guys. This Cleveland-Tampa Bay suspended game. already a mess of a game.
00:32:46
Speaker 2: Boy, I got me self-conscious by my lips.
00:32:47
Speaker 1: I'm out of here.
00:32:49
Speaker 2: See, but you're making it worse, man, because now you're putting your spit on there, and your spit is thick.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: Who used to lick their lips a lot?
00:32:54
Speaker 2: LL Cool J, right?
00:32:55
Speaker 1: That's what LL got in trouble for.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:32:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm trying to buy you some time here.
00:32:59
Speaker 2: You would be capital L.
00:33:00
Speaker 4: Look, Lightning stopped this game in the fourth quarter. There was two minutes left, and Tampa Bay was driving on Cleveland's 34. They're down four points, and this game was stopped for like three hours. So, like... What's going on with players? What's going on in the locker room? How shitty of a situation is this when something happens like this?
00:33:21
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unfortunate, but it happens. And, like, you can't control Mother Nature.
00:33:24
Speaker 2: You can't control, you know, you got to protect the safety of the people that's consuming the product.
00:33:29
Speaker 1: It's about, did you see that?
00:33:30
Speaker 2: It looked like a hurricane. Oh, yeah, it looked bad. It was crazy.
00:33:33
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, get inside.
00:33:34
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Hey, let's just fight through these two minutes.
00:33:38
Speaker 2: But, man, the last two minutes of a game could be like 30, 40 minutes, right? And I know if some lightning just touched over there.
00:33:47
Speaker 1: I'm just going to lay on the ground. I'm laying on the ground because I'm suing. Why are you laying on the ground? Because I'm suing. I'm talking about if I'm in the crowd.
00:33:53
Speaker 2: Am I understanding? Oh, right, right, right.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, you got, ah.
00:33:57
Speaker 2: Bro, it's like he's there falling. Man, it ain't even wet over there, man.
00:34:02
Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
00:34:03
Speaker 3: I think, so I've been in, I haven't dealt with a delay to my knowledge. I don't remember if I have been a part of it.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: I just know if two minutes of the game for ballplayers, like we're coming down from all the drills we took to be prepared to play that game. The Toradale, whatever we done pumped in ourselves, whatever we done drank, we're on the downside of that right now.
00:34:24
Speaker 1: So for us to.
00:34:25
Speaker 3: Be forced to go back in the locker room when you're looking at a clock that says only two minutes left, it kills you. I know I was, especially late in my career, I was a guy that could not stop playing. You like Larry Bird when he had that back? He got to lay on the back and put the hot pack on his back?
00:34:42
Speaker 2: Bro, no bullshit.
00:34:43
Speaker 3: I remember it was so interesting. I think I told you the story It was 2015, we were playing the Raiders, and the week before their game, my offensive line coach said, Willie, you know, we're in the mix of this thing. Because we were on the positive side of the season. It was like, man, we know you're having trouble with your knees. How about we have you play the first.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: Half, bringing Brian Winters, our young guard, and let him finish the game.
00:35:06
Speaker 3: Because we knew we had to play Buffalo. We had some dogfights ahead, and we wanted to run the ball. It was like, man, we need you out there, but we know we're struggling right now.
00:35:15
Speaker 1: I said, fine.
00:35:16
Speaker 3: And I remember I told my coach, Coach Marshall was our office line coach. I said, listen, man, I know what you want, and it makes sense. But the way this Chevy's built right now– Once it's warmed up and ready to go, we got to go. And we just got to ride. If you sit me down and Winters gets hurt, I can't go out. I know I can't go out there and do anything. It's going to be bad. You got the ice on the knees.
00:35:41
Speaker 2: It's a ride.
00:35:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to have you.
00:35:42
Speaker 2: I'm going to have the ice.
00:35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like Patrick. Yeah, I'm going to be barbecue chicken out there.
00:35:46
Speaker 3: And I remember him looking at me like, you know what's interesting? And I don't know because you said you're a boxing fan. You know when you have, like, you respect the fighter, but you also know he's.
00:35:55
Speaker 2: A dying dog. And you don't know how to, like, support him in the moment. And he gave me these eyes like.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Damn, man. Yeah, he's like, all right. I feel you. Let's just pray to God that winners don't get hurt.
00:36:07
Speaker 2: Let's hope we don't have to go there.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: Man, it was brutal.
00:36:10
Speaker 3: So I can't imagine what those guys went through yesterday, but I know if I was out there, I was like, listen, you might as well.
00:36:15
Speaker 1: Go out there.
00:36:15
Speaker 2: Well, the strategic advantage, right, is the game was coming down to the final drive, right? That was the thing. So momentum was on Baker Mayfield's side because you got him tired and stuff like that. Two-minute drill. Advantage goes to the offense, especially now with these new rules. But to go back and as a defensive player to go back and say, listen, this is what we're getting. Because now you can't see what they were doing from a strategic standpoint in real time.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: But now you had time.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: First thing that happened, I'm sure these defensive coordinators, Ty Bowles, I mean, not Ty Bowles. I'm sure they went in there, man. They start drawing up defenses. This is how we got to stop it. Let's do something different. They looking at the analytics. They probably looking at the old film. What do they do with these drives? So the advantage goes to the defensive team because now they get to break down what the offense is doing from a strategic standpoint. And now you're telling me I get two hours rest, I get to take some more stuff, and all I got to do is put one drive.
00:37:03
Speaker 3: I want to ask you this now. We're talking about injuries real quick. You dealt with an injury. I know your toe was a big issue for you. How did you prepare for those games dealing with your toe? I tore every ligament in my toe. I tore my sesamoids. Like my toe literally didn't touch the ground for 13 weeks. I probably should, you know, hindsight.
00:37:21
Speaker 2: And I ended up tearing the toe in my other ligament, in my other toe, because my little toe.
00:37:26
Speaker 1: Same toe?
00:37:27
Speaker 2: Same foot.
00:37:28
Speaker 1: Because my little toe had to be doing what my big toe did.
00:37:31
Speaker 2: Like, so I remember like I had to wear a size, I wear a 13, I had to wear a size 14 to fit my foot in the shoe. And then I had to cut the front of my shoe off from here to here. And then I took foam and taped it down and spat it. and then spray painted with- with- with.
00:37:49
Speaker 4: With- with- with- with- You built an extension on your shoe?
00:37:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I cut the roof off, right? I cut the roof off, and then I put, like, uh, uh, foam over it, so they couldn't tell that my- basically, my toes were out.
00:38:00
Speaker 1: Basically, I had Moses sandals.
00:38:02
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
00:38:03
Speaker 1: You had them air- some air- Wait, so.
00:38:05
Speaker 4: You were free-balling and free-toeing?
00:38:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, free-free-toeing, yeah. Just out here like an MMA fighter.
00:38:09
Speaker 2: Straight raw. So, like, you know what I'm saying? So, like, it made a dome like this. Right, because it was foam, because you gotta bend it from one side and then tape it. And I spray paint, I can remember we were playing the Arizona Cardinals, and I'm out there, and I'm like, hey, what up, Larry?
00:38:22
Speaker 1: Yo, this game, you like good stuff, all this stuff. And he looked down like, yo.
00:38:25
Speaker 2: What the hell wrong with your foot, dog? I'm like, man, it's a lot going on here. He's like, man, he's like Ronald McDonald, dog. What the hell wrong with your foot?
00:38:33
Speaker 1: I said, Larry, man, there's a lot going on, dog.
00:38:36
Speaker 2: I couldn't stop. So I couldn't start and stop. So people were like, oh, Bart can't run anymore. That's because I tell anybody, try and do anything in life.
00:38:44
Speaker 1: Was it a situation where you couldn't feel?
00:38:46
Speaker 2: No, what happened was because you have two ligaments, one on the top, one on the bottom. So that's what keeps your toe down. But when the one on the bottom stopped, my toe goes up in the air. They call it tiger claw because your toe knows it's supposed to do this. So my toe literally was here. So I would have to take foam and put three tapes of foam and put it underneath so when I push, my foot can feel like it has something underneath. Some support can trigger it to push because your big toe is what you push and stop off with. So I couldn't stop either. So I would have to ski stop. So I'd run it like that. I would always push off this foot.
00:39:20
Speaker 4: And that's not good for your knees.
00:39:21
Speaker 1: It's not good for your.
00:39:23
Speaker 2: But that's what happened when people started telling me, like, that's what was so disheartening, because I didn't tell anybody what was wrong. Rex knew what was wrong.
00:39:30
Speaker 1: Was going on.
00:39:31
Speaker 2: But I played with this for 13 weeks, and I can tell people exactly the game that it happened in because everybody remembers it because somebody else got hurt. That's a game week three that Revis tore his ACL. But I tore, so I paid 13 weeks with that. And people ask me, why did you play? People ask me like, why did you play? Why did you do that, Bart? That probably ended my career because people thought I couldn't run anymore, stuff like that.
00:39:59
Speaker 1: That was the last year I played in the league.
00:40:00
Speaker 2: And I told them because as a leader, you only have one opportunity to prove that you're willing to endure something that others can't. So everybody that followed me knew, and people that are out there, outside of London Fletcher, I think I had the longest streak for not missing a game or practice.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: It was something like 183 games. It was something stupid like that.
00:40:21
Speaker 2: Because Rex asked me, did he want me to put me in the game one play for Miami just so I can keep my streak going? You know, I basically went like 10 years without missing a game. You know what I'm saying? So like... I was like, nah, I need to let it heal up because it was a game right before the vibes and maybe I can get the swelling out. But I played that week and that whole season because I wanted to prove to people, the people.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: That followed me, I don't care about everybody else.
00:40:48
Speaker 2: All the people that Rex entrusted me to lead, like, man, look what this guy's willing to sacrifice for you. He's out there on 60%. He's out there for you guys.
00:40:59
Speaker 1: Oh, I get it.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: I remember I played my whole last year with the Jets on one leg, man. And I remember we had the all-white game. And it was two stories. I remember going into that game. Well, you know, it's funny you say that, Bart. It sparked a memory. I remember going into that season. And you know how they come out, the team who's already projected. The projected starters. And I wasn't on the list.
00:41:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:41:22
Speaker 3: And I remember this first time in my career, I was never projected a starter. And I remember how emotionally that charged me up. And mind you, I was on one knee.
00:41:29
Speaker 1: And anybody that watched me walk through those hallways knew I was peg leg Willie. I was dragging my.
00:41:34
Speaker 3: Knee up and down the hallway. And the Cleveland game, our first game was against Cleveland. And I ended up starting. And I came out the total. So you know how the total has, like, you know, it's like, do-do-do-do-do, then there's smoke, then the jets come out.
00:41:49
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, charged up, I'm ready to go. And as I'm running it out, I'm dragging my leg like this. I'm just like, yeah! Fired up.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: And I can remember.
00:41:59
Speaker 2: On the defense, I can't wait to go against this. Right.
00:42:01
Speaker 1: So I remember one of the young guys was like, I don't know how you're doing it, big dog. He's like, dog, I don't know. He's like, he uses.
00:42:08
Speaker 3: One of my young dogs, my brother, Odey Abushi, he came up to me, he's like, he's like, everybody sees you in pain, like, I'm like, dog, it's the game.
00:42:16
Speaker 1: You just, you accept it.
00:42:18
Speaker 3: And what's crazy, I had this conversation with my brother, Max Starks, and my other brother, Marcus Colson. We were talking about how my wife's going through menopause right now. And my wife is.
00:42:28
Speaker 1: Like, I'm hot, I'm this, I'm that, I'm that, I'm this. And so it's become like, all right, I know you got this issue, but you got to get over it.
00:42:35
Speaker 3: And you don't realize for ballplayers like us, when you're dealing with the outside world and they complain about everything else, and we've accepted that pain is just a part of who we are and what we got to deal with, they see us as being insensitive or cold or mean. And I'm just like, and my wife is like, you know, me and my wife has had We've had some blowouts, dog.
00:42:56
Speaker 1: To witness menopause in real time is a mother.
00:42:57
Speaker 2: You're trying to understand it. You're trying to relate, but you're like, it's okay. You understand that I've laid on operation tables awake while they've carved into my body. I've taken shots, I've done everything. In our minds, we expect them to be on that level.
00:43:15
Speaker 1: But they're not, right?
00:43:16
Speaker 2: They're not built like us.
00:43:18
Speaker 1: Right, so it's a weird situation, but to everybody out there that's grinded it up. Nutter, you know who athletes are, the real ones?
00:43:26
Speaker 2: We're Captain America. when Thanos is beating the dog shit out of him. And our damn shield is broke. And he's like, why will you keep getting up? He's just putting it on again. Fuck it to the death. I told some young dude, he was asking me, Willie, what was your mindset? He's like, how do you know who loves football? And I know you can attest this, but you played in the cold weather city. I was like, loving football is when your team is on the losing side of things, it's winter.
00:43:56
Speaker 3: You got to get up an extra hour to defrost your car, throw some hot water on your windshield, warm up your car, make it to the facility on time, knowing, one, you fucked up, but you don't want to be late, you have a routine, and while nobody's looking for you to do the right thing, you still do the right thing.
00:44:14
Speaker 2: I don't want our show to get sued. Do not... Listen to me. Do not throw hot water on a frozen windshield. That shit will fall in. And don't at me. What's that shit? It's the same motherfucker that burnt the turkey and almost killed the whole neighborhood. Do not throw hot water on a frozen windshield. I'm not saying you should do it. I'm just telling you what the fuck I did.
00:44:41
Speaker 1: And he's still here.
00:44:42
Speaker 2: And he was still here. I just want to just thank your whole windshield fell inside.
00:44:46
Speaker 4: Good catch, bud.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: Good catch. Willie got plenty of cars. If one fuck up, he can go drive another one. Your broke ass ain't going to be able to do that. All right, we're going to take a quick break. Bart and Willie show.
00:44:54
Speaker 1: Come on back. Welcome on back to the Bart and Willie show. We wanted to talk.
00:44:58
Speaker 3: About the injuries that have really shook up the NFL world. There's been some catastrophic ones. Bart, we talk about starting QBs who went down this weekend. I'm going to rip them off real quick. Jaden Daniels, elbow for the commanders. Caleb Williams, hamstring. By the way, very dramatic, very Paul Pierce in a wheelchair type thing. So we'll talk about that. Kyler Murray, obviously dealing with a concussion. Sam Darnold, hip. Tua Tungvalu, oblique. Really, I think Tua just doesn't want to play anymore.
00:45:26
Speaker 1: And Michael Penix.
00:45:28
Speaker 2: Michael Penix.
00:45:29
Speaker 1: Michael Penix. Michael Penix.
00:45:30
Speaker 2: We did not edit it out. Michael Penix. Oh, boy.
00:45:33
Speaker 1: Michael Penix. Come on, toppity-top, man. That shit still on your head?
00:45:35
Speaker 2: Nah, stop with the toppity-top. I'll tell you what the toppity-top. So I looked up toppity-top, yo. It's a salute to a general. It means a sign of respect. Don't call me Toppity Top, though. Okay, listen. My guy brother was a cross-dresser and he was gay, obviously. Toppity Top means something. So it depends on where you're hearing Toppity Top from, brother. Yeah, it's context. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Context. Who was the cross-dresser?
00:45:59
Speaker 1: Your brother, you said? My godbrother. Oh, your godbrother.
00:46:02
Speaker 2: He's passed since, but yeah, he's like a drag queen, stuff like that. He was out here like Urban Magic Johnson's son. You know what I'm saying? So toppity-top in his community means something different. So it depends on where he was coming from. We don't know the context. We don't know if you're a general or he thought you was the toppity-top and he was the bottom-bottom.
00:46:18
Speaker 3: There ain't no top or bottom over here in Casa Colon, period. But I tell you this, you talk about Magic Johnson's son, that motherfucker beat your ass. Magic Johnson is big than a motherfucker.
00:46:31
Speaker 2: I know he got... He's like 6'9. My brother can fight, too, because when you grow up that way, he was 6'4. You got no choice, but no, I'm not taking no L from Magic Johnson. If we want to get in the ring for some cash, you know what I'm saying?
00:46:45
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson will whoop your ass, bro. He built like an upside-down pair.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: Dog, he's enormous. I've seen him in LA. I've seen him in Miami at the W. I didn't realize.
00:46:57
Speaker 1: He's 6'8. He didn't do like Terry Crews got done, did he? What happened to Terry Crews?
00:47:02
Speaker 3: The executive did Terry Crews. No, I had no engagement with him. But I'm just telling you, he was enormous. I didn't realize how big he was.
00:47:10
Speaker 2: His dad is 6'9.
00:47:11
Speaker 3: But, bro, he has these thick-ass fishbowl goggles.
00:47:14
Speaker 1: And he looking down at you. And I was like, oh, shit.
00:47:18
Speaker 3: So you can say what you want about whatever, but I think EJ will whoop your ass.
00:47:22
Speaker 2: Nah, we got to see that one.
00:47:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying.
00:47:25
Speaker 2: If I lose to EJ, I got to die. Take me on the back like Mike's a man. I'll never be able to live that one down. But go ahead, man.
00:47:31
Speaker 1: Going back to quarterbacks that took a couple injuries. I told you which ones– who you think is the biggest injury out of the guys I just ripped off.
00:47:39
Speaker 2: I mean, by far, in my opinion, it has to be Caleb Williams because they're the team that has the biggest aspirations, right? When you look at Jaden Daniels, Marcus Mariota, we thought they were going to be better. People are starting to call for Dan Quinn's job.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: I hope not.
00:47:54
Speaker 2: I mean, this elbow, this is the second year in a row. And you know what happens. It reminds me of when Chris Webber's shoulder used to slip out all the time, even after the surgery. Like, those can be hard because– he has to learn how not to brace, which is a natural instinct. And he always puts his arm out there like that. He's going to have to figure that out. He's probably going to have to walk around with the J.J. Watt elbow brace.
00:48:16
Speaker 1: The good thing is this is a non-throwing shoulder, so it shouldn't be career-ending.
00:48:20
Speaker 2: But you're always worried if he has the ball in his right hand, if he's going to brace with the left.
00:48:25
Speaker 4: Did you hear Brady on the broadcast, by the way?
00:48:27
Speaker 2: Oh, no, no. I heard he said, oh, shit.
00:48:29
Speaker 4: And he's just like, oh, shit.
00:48:30
Speaker 2: I don't even watch those type of things, man. I've seen some gruesome injuries.
00:48:35
Speaker 4: Dude, they showed it like 50 times in a row, like unnecessarily.
00:48:38
Speaker 1: They need to stop, man. Yeah.
00:48:39
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Kyler Murray, he's going to have time to heal because Carson Wentz is playing at a high enough level that defense is carrying him. You know, Jaden Daniels, you know, he's in a race where you have Philadelphia, you have Dallas Cowboys. and he's losing to teams in which, you know what I'm saying, that they're in a division.
00:48:57
Speaker 1: So those almost count sometimes as one.
00:49:00
Speaker 2: But I think the Vikings are suited best to be able to do that, which brings up a whole other topic, the fact that how important are these backups nowadays? We see it's a dash for who can secure the best backup. I think, in my opinion, the best backup in all the NFL may be Mac Jones. Don't sleep on Jamison, by the way.
00:49:22
Speaker 1: Jamison, when he's in there, he cooks a little bit.
00:49:25
Speaker 2: But we know Jamison can cook, but we know somebody catching the ball, we just don't know all the time who. Right?
00:49:31
Speaker 1: If it's Jameis or if it's your team or the other.
00:49:33
Speaker 2: Like, Jameis, I think Mac Jones last year proved his worth, won five games without Brock Purdy.
00:49:39
Speaker 1: I mean, shit, he beat the Rams.
00:49:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you look at the fact that Mac Jones signed a two-year deal, and they could have got a first or second round draft.
00:49:49
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say this.
00:49:50
Speaker 3: My experience with backup quarterbacks, I've had some really good ones in Pittsburgh. I had Charlie Batch, who was seasoned. Charlie was great for us. And Byron Lefkowitz. And the points of a backup... It's interesting. So Charlie never wanted to be the starter.
00:50:09
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
00:50:10
Speaker 3: I think he was comfortable in being the stabilizer and being a steward to Ben.
00:50:16
Speaker 1: He was a guy... I've never been a part.
00:50:18
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen it. When Ben would come off the sideline, he wouldn't run to the... He wouldn't run to B.A., Bruce Ahrens. He wouldn't run to Mike Tomlin. He would run right to Charlie Batch. And him and Charlie... would have whatever dialogue.
00:50:30
Speaker 1: A great rapport. Yeah, there was a level of respect.
00:50:33
Speaker 2: Mentor.
00:50:34
Speaker 3: He was constantly telling Ben where his eyes should be. He was constantly like, it was almost having his own trainer in the corner for Ben to operate. And for a young guy growing up, it was awesome to see because there was times where.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: Maybe Ben didn't trust he was seen. And, you know, you're always willing to listen to a guy on the field.
00:50:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bruce doesn't know it from the field level.
00:50:55
Speaker 1: Yes, right.
00:50:56
Speaker 2: And Charlie obviously had a long career in Detroit, and he's from Pittsburgh, played really well. But when he got in the game, and also when Charlie got in the game, man, we never took a step down from an operation standpoint because he mastered.
00:51:09
Speaker 1: Professional.
00:51:10
Speaker 3: Well, on top of that, I think for a backup, yeah, you want to get the ball out. You want to do all these things. But from an operation standpoint, if you can master that, that takes the anxiety away from the guys around you.
00:51:22
Speaker 1: Because if you're a guy who can.
00:51:23
Speaker 2: Get the ball out of your hands on time, the cadence is right where it needs to be, there's no miscommunication, that calms the nerves of everybody else.
00:51:30
Speaker 1: Like, oh, Ben ain't out here now. You know, guys start to unravel. That never happened.
00:51:34
Speaker 3: Left, which was dope, because left mindset was– I'm going to make your job easy, dog.
00:51:40
Speaker 2: Just give me three seconds. Or give me two seconds, the ball's out.
00:51:43
Speaker 3: And so his mindset was like, I'm never going to put nothing on you or you guys up front.
00:51:46
Speaker 1: So don't worry.
00:51:47
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not going to be a guy that's going to sit back here, hold the ball, do whatever.
00:51:49
Speaker 3: So left was great. And then he had a cannon for an arm. So I was fortunate enough to play with really good backup quarterbacks. I don't know who your backup quarterbacks were.
00:51:57
Speaker 1: I didn't have great starters, so you know I didn't have great backups. I mean.
00:52:01
Speaker 2: For me, I guess the best backup I ever played with was Joe Flacco, but Joe Flacco, I only played with him for one year. People don't remember the year that we, first year, hardball's first year, we went to the AFC Championship. Troy Smith was supposed to be the starter. He got a viral, some type of infection, lost like 20 pounds and. got really, really sick, and Flacco took over the third preseason game and never looked back. But that kind of brings up another story, right? Because we talked about the NFL wanting to go to 18 games, and you ask yourself, who's best suited? Because injury is almost guaranteed in this league, and it's hard to keep anybody healthy. It kind of made us kind of think about who's in the best situation that you trust that if someone gets hurt, that they can come in. I think obvious right now, We already talked about Mac Jones.
00:52:55
Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz and.
00:52:56
Speaker 2: The fact that they're going with him. He's 2-0 already, and last year he had to do this, last year. But also the fact, I think for me, it's a rush to the top. Mac Jones, Drew Locke is doing his thing right now, and Carson Wentz. The other guys, I think, you know, you might as well cancel your plans for Christmas if some of these other guys get in there.
00:53:20
Speaker 3: Well, see, Drew Locke's been a part of the system for four or five years. And they signed him $ 5 million. They paid him $ 5 million to be the backer, which is wild because they have the kid from Alabama, Jalen Monroe, who's a dual threat who I think is a dog. So he's actually behind Drew Locke. There's a kid on that list. His name is Jalen Daniels. He's the backup quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's right behind Baker Mayfield. He's like, he's, this is a kid who scrapped, he plays exactly like Baker. Nobody knows his name because he's a little, you know, he hasn't played a lot, but he's honorable mention.
00:53:51
Speaker 1: So let's go through, right? Let's just have some fun. Go back to the bottom again. You want to start at the bottom?
00:53:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:56
Speaker 1: Let's go to the bottom.
00:53:57
Speaker 2: You were in trouble.
00:53:58
Speaker 1: If you got to go to Quinn, yours, you damn sure in trouble.
00:54:01
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, I didn't know he still was alive. I thought Trey Lance was out of the league. I thought he'd be like, what's that new lead they got over in Europe that Jack Del Rio just won?
00:54:09
Speaker 1: I thought.
00:54:11
Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, Tommy Cutlass, you in trouble?
00:54:15
Speaker 1: I want to say Justin Fields, but I feel like he's in the perfect offense room.
00:54:18
Speaker 2: No, hell no.
00:54:20
Speaker 1: You think Justin Fields has to go out there?
00:54:23
Speaker 2: I think you'd be better playing the Wildcat. You put Kenneth Walker at quarterback and just play the Wildcat. Hell no. Let him be Ronnie Brown.
00:54:32
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you somebody who I do like.
00:54:34
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson?
00:54:36
Speaker 3: Forget about it. He's done. I like Davis Mills. Davis Mills won Texas three games last year.
00:54:47
Speaker 2: He may need to be the starter. He should have been the starter last year. Why they didn't put him in the playoff game last year? Davis Mills could be the RG3.
00:54:59
Speaker 1: Who's our guy we just talked about.
00:55:00
Speaker 2: From the Raiders?
00:55:02
Speaker 1: Oh, Kirk? Yeah, he could be the Kirk Cousins guy. To C.J. Straub.
00:55:07
Speaker 2: Because C.J. Straub, remember, people don't remember, they drafted RG3 and Kirk Cousins in the same draft. And Kirk Cousins ended up being the quarterback and having a much more illustrious career. Now, we know that RG3, the injuries stripped him of his career. But, man, Davis Mills may end up, they may have their starting quarterback. With that defense, you got enough to win.
00:55:30
Speaker 3: I watched Davis Mills win three games for the Texans and pretty much springboarded their run. Because when CJ went down, that dude got out there and started cooking.
00:55:41
Speaker 1: And to the point where people were like, do we have to put him back in?
00:55:45
Speaker 2: That was a real question. You know when they tell you, hey, we want to make sure, just take another week.
00:55:51
Speaker 1: Let's make sure you totally.
00:55:51
Speaker 3: But he was cooking so good, it was like, man, the continuity he has with the rest of his team in this offense, we feel like we're in a space where we don't have to look around anymore.
00:56:00
Speaker 4: Who jumps out at you? Who would you feel safe with, looking at this list?
00:56:04
Speaker 2: One thing I know about Flacco, he don't throw for 500... It might be 200 yards and intercepts and return yardage. But like what he did last year with Cincinnati had us asking ourselves like, yo, do they need Joe Burr back? Because like he came out, got the game plan in the playbook on Tuesday.
00:56:25
Speaker 1: By Sunday, he was throwing for 500.
00:56:29
Speaker 4: Well, he had a nice receiving core, too.
00:56:31
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He never had nothing like that.
00:56:33
Speaker 3: So there's somebody who, I mean, Stetson Bennett, every time he's been thrown into the fire, he produces.
00:56:39
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's a short little fucker. But is he coming in, though? Because they drafted the guy from... They drafted the first round.
00:56:46
Speaker 1: The kid from Bama. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:47
Speaker 3: But no, I've seen Stetson come in the game, and he's somebody I would trust and feel comfortable to go out there and do the damn thing.
00:56:54
Speaker 1: This is why it's so great to be a backup in this league, man.
00:56:57
Speaker 2: Some of these dudes... The greatest backup of all time.
00:57:00
Speaker 3: Do you remember Charlie Whitehurst was a backup for like 13 million years and was getting paid like a starting quarterback?
00:57:06
Speaker 1: No, the best was whoever backed up Eli because he never.
00:57:09
Speaker 2: Missed a game.
00:57:09
Speaker 4: That's right.
00:57:11
Speaker 1: Nassif or something like that.
00:57:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:57:15
Speaker 1: He never had to stay.
00:57:17
Speaker 2: 11 years, this dude never had to play. He played four games in the preseason, got some millies for nothing.
00:57:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like there were a couple there.
00:57:26
Speaker 1: Davis Webb. I remember Davis Webb. Geno was there for a little bit.
00:57:29
Speaker 2: Davis Webb is calling plays for Denver Broncos right now.
00:57:33
Speaker 1: No, Ryan Nassif. Ryan Nassif, bro. Ryan Nassif, bro.
00:57:36
Speaker 2: He was a.
00:57:37
Speaker 1: But I think also... From Syracuse or something like that. Well, I think... Listen, I think there's two types of quarterbacks.
00:57:41
Speaker 3: There's the quarterback that wants to play and put pressure on the starting guy. And there's the other guy... That's comfortable. That's comfortable with his job, what it's asked of him.
00:57:49
Speaker 2: Got his sunflower seeds. Yeah. And I don't think it's his sunflower seeds. He goes.
00:57:53
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's ever going to consider me a starting guy. I'm always going to be locked into being this backup guy.
00:57:58
Speaker 2: He needs a backup and like, listen, this is my role. I'm going to do my job the best I can. Some of these guys can be the third. But I think Mac Jones is trending that way. No, Mac Jones want to start. Mac Jones, what he did with San Francisco, he wants to be the next Sam Darnold. And I think he is the next Sam Darnold. Next year, he's going to be out there because Baker Mayfield got locked up. He's going to be the most. Whoever don't get that quarterback in the draft, Daniel Jones, listen, man, this dude had Matt Patricia as the damn offensive coordinator. Like, they drafted Nikhil Harry.
00:58:32
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, it was negligence out there. Like, he's showing you what he can do. And we know what quarterbacks are when they leave from Kyle Shanahan as they go get rehab.
00:58:42
Speaker 3: But you also risk, if you're Matt Jones, you risk going to a team that's not well-developed. when you can stay in San Fran and continue to compete for the Super Bowl. No, no, not to be, I mean. Like, Mac Jones is not going to a contender because a contender has their quarterback.
00:58:57
Speaker 2: Somebody will give Mac Jones the Baker Mayfield contract. Somebody will give Mac Jones to Sam Darnold. Come over here, $ 30 million, three years, three for 90, and then you start balling out and he'll get that second contract.
00:59:09
Speaker 1: There's only one team. It's the Jets.
00:59:12
Speaker 3: It's the only team that I can think off the cuff that I'd be like, hey, we'll give up a draft pick, some money.
00:59:18
Speaker 1: No, he's a free agent. They can't franchise tag him. You're getting him for free. So it's the Jets. That's the only team. I said that this offseason.
00:59:28
Speaker 2: Like, depending on how this goes and if Jets win enough games, which we think, and they won't be bad enough to be in the top five, top ten, the Jets with three first-round draft picks, you go get Jeremiah Smith to go out there and you go get the best offensive guard.
00:59:45
Speaker 1: I bet Jeremiah Smith is going to be a dolphin.
00:59:48
Speaker 4: All right, real quick to close out this segment, let's shout out some legendary backup quarterback achievements. We all know Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants, replaced Phil Simms. Super Bowl victory, pretty awesome. Nick Foles, same. Super Bowl MVP. Earl Moral, if I'm pronouncing that correct, won the NFL MVP.
01:00:08
Speaker 5: 1968.
01:00:08
Speaker 4: 11-0 filling in during the 72 undefeated Dolphins season. Crazy town. And Frank Reich obviously had that legendary comeback.
01:00:15
Speaker 1: It's one you don't have on there.
01:00:17
Speaker 4: Who's that?
01:00:18
Speaker 2: The snake.
01:00:19
Speaker 4: Jake Plummer?
01:00:20
Speaker 1: No, no, not that snake. For the Raiders.
01:00:23
Speaker 2: He came back, came off the bench and won two Super Bowls. Oh, man. I'm stumped.
01:00:29
Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank.
01:00:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm drawing a blank.
01:00:31
Speaker 1: You show us the snake? Well, maybe it's not the snake.
01:00:34
Speaker 4: Because it was Jake the Snake Plumber.
01:00:35
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not talking about Jake the Snake.
01:00:37
Speaker 4: Or Jake the Snake Robbers.
01:00:38
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. He played, listen, look him up. He played for the Raiders. Plunkett.
01:00:42
Speaker 4: Oh, Jim Plunkett.
01:00:43
Speaker 2: Jim Plunkett.
01:00:44
Speaker 1: Came off the bench and won two Super Bowls as the backup, dog.
01:00:47
Speaker 4: That's crazy town, yeah.
01:00:48
Speaker 1: That's two. That's crazy. All right, we're going to take a break. Come on back.
01:00:51
Speaker 2: Barton will welcome all back to the barton willie show monday night football it's the return of aaron donald he will be lining up for your los angeles rams they will be playing the new york giants aaron donald has been out how long has he been out two years two years not too bad uh future hall of famer obviously what do you expect to see out of aaron donald this is tough man um because I don't know if he has his timing with his moves. Remember, he had that crazy-ass cross chop. You know, that's all rhythm and timing and being able to set guys up. And this will be the first time, like, with Myles Garrett being out, everybody expects him to come and save the day. And I don't know if he can come save the day. It's going to take him some games. And the fact that, you know, they're at risk of going 0-2, and we just talked about how difficult it is to come back from 0-2. They got San Francisco in their division. They've already lost to San Francisco. You've got the world champs in your division. You can't fall too far behind. And Aaron Donald, I don't know how many snaps he's going to be able to get. We all see him working out and rippling steel, ripped up, all that type of stuff. But football shape is something totally different.
01:01:58
Speaker 3: Well, they said it's already come out he's going to be in rotation. I do think if you're the Giants right now, you see where his condition is at. You run the ball right at him. I know Cam Scadable has already come out. Third and one, if he's in the hole, I'm going right at him.
01:02:12
Speaker 1: That's fine. But here's the thing. I don't know if I'm going with Scadable. Who would you go? I'm going with that offset.
01:02:19
Speaker 2: We wham blocking. We wham blocking, baby.
01:02:21
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know anything like that.
01:02:23
Speaker 2: My bad, my bad. That wham block?
01:02:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:26
Speaker 2: And he outweighs Aaron Donald? I ain't blocking him. I'm letting him come out.
01:02:29
Speaker 1: You said something.
01:02:29
Speaker 3: I do think if you're the Rams, and we talked about, all the pieces they acquired in the offseason, especially– McDuffie. McDuffie, Watson, Miles Garrett. And the way you lost against Sam Friend, you lose Miles Garrett. In fact, they have Brandon Fisk and they have Kobe Turner and a bunch of those guys, so they still have a D-line. But if Aaron Donald doesn't pop off the tape and doesn't produce, you don't have a leader right now.
01:02:56
Speaker 1: You don't have a face of your defense that– Because think about it. You said that me and you have talked about this before.
01:03:03
Speaker 2: Ernest Jones, maybe. Right.
01:03:05
Speaker 3: But those guys aren't just great at being great. They're great because they close games.
01:03:10
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:03:10
Speaker 3: So you don't have a closer in Myles Garrett. And now you potentially don't have a closer in Aaron Donald because he's been out of the game for two years.
01:03:17
Speaker 1: Okay.
01:03:17
Speaker 3: So who's finishing the games for the Rams? Because you know the Rams, I think offensively will be fine.
01:03:22
Speaker 2: See, this is the crazy part, right? And listen, I witnessed this, and you witnessed this, right? You got certain teams that can deflate a goddamn football.
01:03:34
Speaker 1: And the New York Giants can deflate a football. You ain't lying. This can mess around and be an 80 play.
01:03:39
Speaker 2: They will go two yards, two yards, three yards, and go for it. So we saw the Dallas Cowboys got two possessions in the second half. Like, hardball is going to make this a physical dogfight. So Aaron Donald may be in rotation, but he might get all his plays in in the first half. This could be.
01:03:59
Speaker 1: A 45-50 play first half.
01:04:02
Speaker 2: This could be a 16-18 play drive where they just grind the shit out of you. And then Aaron Donald, you know, when that check engine light come on, brother, that shit is on, and it don't turn off until the next time. And then you're in survival mode. Yeah. And now you got this big-ass fullback, Ricard, fucking leaning on Aaron Donald.
01:04:22
Speaker 3: And then he's going against a young dog named CeCe Mano, who they put at the right guard. So he's going to be itching to get after it. I do say this for the Giants' defense, because they're a little light in the secondary. Deontay Banks won't be playing for them. They're going to, I'm telling you right now, the Giants will eliminate Puka Nakur.
01:04:37
Speaker 1: They're going to take away his staff.
01:04:38
Speaker 2: He might not even play.
01:04:39
Speaker 1: Right.
01:04:40
Speaker 2: He's questionable.
01:04:40
Speaker 1: He is questionable.
01:04:41
Speaker 3: But if he does, they're going to say, hey, man, We're not going to let Puka beat us. Figure it out with your tight ends and whoever else.
01:04:47
Speaker 1: This kind of brings up another question for me.
01:04:51
Speaker 2: Like, who was a great player that was on his side of being washed that you couldn't wait to go against that you kind of served up? And it was like, oh, I served his ass up. Like, nobody believed I would serve this dude up. In his heyday, he would have killed me.
01:05:07
Speaker 1: Willie McGinnis.
01:05:08
Speaker 2: Oh, he got Willie. But, hey, let me say this. Cleveland Willie McGinnis? Cleveland. Still had that man strength.
01:05:13
Speaker 1: But let me tell you this. He was no Hodo.
01:05:15
Speaker 2: He was still about that smoke. He didn't have to wiggle like he used to. And, you know, I was a short tackle, so everything was jump set.
01:05:24
Speaker 1: I played like Jason Peters.
01:05:26
Speaker 2: But... When he got mad, though, there was a couple of plays where the dog kind of twitched back on. I'm like, oh, they all like you said you all.
01:05:35
Speaker 3: But I was excited to play against him because he was William McGinnis and Jason Taylor. Jason Taylor was interesting. Late with us? No, I played with him when he was a Dolphin. But what was interesting when he was a Dolphin, I never played against somebody who methodically set you up.
01:05:54
Speaker 1: Like he would do things to think you got away with it.
01:05:56
Speaker 3: And he'd be like, I'm going to do this. And then he would just, he'd be like, oh shit. So Jason, shout out to JT. He was a dog too. But yeah, those are probably the two.
01:06:03
Speaker 2: Mine might've been the bus. Jerome Bettis? Yeah. You would've smoked with the bus? But why JB? Obviously because in the division. Because you know, he was our hero.
01:06:16
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay. I used to do the Jerome Bennett's camp. You know what I'm saying?
01:06:19
Speaker 2: Like, when I came in, like, my first couple years, he was still the OG, and then he was near the end of his career.
01:06:25
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying?
01:06:26
Speaker 2: Like, he wasn't the bust that was running over everybody. He still had it and brought it. But I felt good. Like, yo, like, yo, craziest shit ever, man. Like, so you know me. I'm talking shit, right? And I don't know if Mike Tomlin was. He never played for Mike Tomlin, did he? No, I didn't.
01:06:41
Speaker 1: No, no. So this was with Bill Cowher. But I'm me now. I'm a little better.
01:06:46
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Prime Bart. I'm not prime. I'm pre-prime.
01:06:48
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
01:06:49
Speaker 2: I'm pre-prime. I ran on a cusp, probably. And I can remember, man. It's like four from one. And me and this dumb motherfucker, me and him out here, you know me arguing. How people allow me to draw them into dumbass arguments is ridiculous. Because you don't shut up. People forget why they're arguing with you, but you keep going. That's happened to me. I've argued with Bart on the field. Like, we don't sit, cut, dog, cuss, fuck you. Like, fuck you, you fat nigga. I'm like, bro, you mumbling all this stuff. We'll go up with two scores.
01:07:17
Speaker 3: And now my mind is like, all right, I just want to finish the game without getting hurt.
01:07:20
Speaker 5: And Bart be like, nah, I'm still looking at you, you fat motherfucker.
01:07:24
Speaker 2: Shut up already. This is over. I don't want to keep arguing with you. So listen. So we out there, and it's four for one. And I'm like, bring your fat ass across the line. I'm going to fuck you up, boss.
01:07:32
Speaker 1: You telling?
01:07:33
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is me talking to the boss.
01:07:34
Speaker 1: Your hometown hero.
01:07:35
Speaker 2: Yeah. You talking shit to your hometown hero. We put on the mother's uniform. I'm going to fuck who you are. You know what I'm saying? He's like, fuck you, bitch. Like, we going at it. Like, we out there. It's like a TV time. We draw lines. I'm like, draw a line. He draw a line.
01:07:50
Speaker 1: You draw a line. I draw a line.
01:07:51
Speaker 2: I said, Corbin, bring your fat ass out here. Me and you, motherfucking hoe, what's up? I don't know what he went and told Bill Cowher, right? So, like, yo, I'm like, because, you know, I'm always to the bubble. Yeah, Ray ain't to the bubble. I'm always to the bubble. For everybody for the bubble, you know, like, you have a man here and a guy outside of him. You got a man here and a guy inside of him. Ain't shit in between us, but air and motherfucking opportunity, right? Four for one. Ben put the motherfucking ball out. I'm coming out of it. Chug, chug. Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug. This fat motherfucker, man, hits me with the. I was like, oh shit.
01:08:28
Speaker 5: This fat motherfucker got a ball. It's a play fake. I was like, you bitch. I was like, you motherfucker. This motherfucker like, he.
01:08:40
Speaker 2: Running to the flats, fucking bid, he forgot, he can't catch. Thank God he didn't get that motherfucker.
01:08:46
Speaker 1: Oh, he dropped the ball?
01:08:46
Speaker 2: Oh, he dropped it? Yeah, he dropped that bitch.
01:08:48
Speaker 1: Oh.
01:08:48
Speaker 2: But man, I was like, you punk motherfucker. Here I am, ready for all the smoke, same way I'm telling Dan Crowder. Bitch, meet me right here. I'ma be right here. Me and you, motherfucker. We on down today! Yeah, yeah. care if I die I don't care if I die throw me in the jail throw away the key this motherfucker hit me with the R2L2 I say this motherfucker man that shit was the funniest shit in the world the one.
01:09:11
Speaker 3: Person I did I kind of wish I would have had an opportunity we probably wouldn't warrant Sap because Sap was.
01:09:17
Speaker 1: So like, Sap was him. Like he just was. But to like have- He.
01:09:21
Speaker 2: Retired and then went to Oakland and we realized he had already put his papers in. Right. Sap chalked it up.
01:09:30
Speaker 1: We're going to get out of here. Prediction, who you got? Rams or Giants? I'm going with the Giants, man.
01:09:36
Speaker 2: And I think New York's going to be on fire, man, because I think this is just a bad matchup. Hardball, like Mike Tomlin.
01:09:43
Speaker 1: They are in New York tonight, right?
01:09:45
Speaker 2: No, no, they're in LA. They're in LA. For me, it's certain coaches that can just ugly a damn game up. You want to go out there and box and be pretty, and I think the Rams want to be pretty. They want to put points up. They ain't about that gritty life. You know what I mean? And I think the Giants are going to come in there and make them play a style that they don't really want to play and they're not prepared to play. because they can't exploit it, especially if Puka's not able to be. People don't forget, Puka's big in the run game, too. Getting the ball in his hands. He's basically like a little Debo Samuel in his prime, and he's hard to match up against. With that, I think you can really double Adams and really limit the Rams and what they're able to do.
01:10:23
Speaker 1: I want to believe in the Giants.
01:10:24
Speaker 3: I just feel like this matchup, considering for the Rams, watching a lot of teams who would contend to be 0-2 right now, that scares the shit out of them. I think McVay, Stafford, Aaron, the emotional baggage that Aaron Donald brings to the table.
01:10:43
Speaker 1: I think the Giants are light in the secondary. I'm going Rams. And then Giants going to the West Coast.
01:10:49
Speaker 2: Maybe too much for this young team. But it's not a short week. So they've been out there, right? So they got time to have this Monday night game. It's different if it's a Sunday night game. They went out there early. They had the late practice. They acclimated.
01:11:01
Speaker 1: I wish we had a Kelsey thing.
01:11:02
Speaker 2: We should have, like, a show gambling pot where we kind of, like, try and gamble on stuff.
01:11:08
Speaker 1: I bet you that the defense is announced tonight. What do you mean? Because Aaron Donald's coming. So defense, you know.
01:11:14
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Starting lineup.
01:11:16
Speaker 1: Starting lineup. Yeah, I expect that.
01:11:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would want to bet on that.
01:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:21
Speaker 2: All right. Week two in the books, Bart and Willie. By the way, thank you for everybody that continues to support.
01:11:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, love. Continue to comment, like, and follow. Subscribe. Thank you.
01:11:32
Speaker 3: Shout out to the beautiful people at Playmaker, and I give a shout out at the beginning of the show. Thank you to our producer, Nutter, and Tony on behind the mic. And I know how we're going to get our gambling money for the show. We're going to put that shirt on the real, real. Bart and his part-time owner B outfit. We want to say goodbye.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: Love you. Till next time.
01:11:53
Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah. This has been a Playmaker Production.
