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Hi friends, How are you today? My name is Bailey
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Sarian and today is Monday, which means it's murder, Mystery
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and Makeup Monday. If you're new here, Hi, my name
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is Bailey. And on Mondays, I sit down and I
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talk about a true crime story that's been heavy on
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my loggin, and I do my makeup at the same time.
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It's just to keep myself busy. Really, I'm getting ready
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for my day. Okay. If you're interested in your crime
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But other than that, let me tell you about today's story.
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You know, when I do murder mysteries like it's you
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probably think it's cute. I'm just spending like a couple
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hours doing research. No. No, I get engulfed in these
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stories and this one again just like Terry Schivo, just
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like Sarah Boone, like these people are are so I've
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into today's story. Let me set this thing for you. Okay.
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It's February twelfth, twenty ten, and it's just like another
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day at the University of Alabama. Professors are gathering in
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a small conference room, you know, just to have like
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another routine faculty meeting on again this like ordinary Friday afternoon.
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The meeting goes on for about like forty five minutes, okay,
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until one of their own stands up, pulls out a
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gun and starts firing it's total chaos. Survivors flee, but
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three are left dead. Now this wasn't some just random
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act of violence, Nay nay, nay nay, Because when investigators
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started digging into this killer's past, let me tell you,
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they uncovered something many things so disturbing, so deeply buried
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that it left everyone asking how the hell did no
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one see this coming? Listen? This is a story of
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Amy Bishop, a Harvard trained neuroscientist with a deadly temper,
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a past full of secrets, and a trail of violence
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that started long before that awful, awful, awful day. And
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trust me, by the end of this, you're gonna be like,
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what the what in the what in the butt was that?
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Because that's what I was saying. So let me cut
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my hair back. I have my handy tandy notebook just
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in case I need to reference my notes. I take
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many notes when I do these, and a lot of
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the stuff in this today's story. You know, I would
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love to do a three hour episode, but I think
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four people would probably watch, so I had to like
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leave some stuff out, but I kept what I thought
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was the most important stuff in. But I'll refer to
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my notebook just in case, just in case, So let
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me tell you about this Amy Lady. So Amy was
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born on April twenty fourth, nineteen sixty five, to her parents,
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Judith or Judy and Samuel sam Bishop. Now. At the time,
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her father was completing his graduate studies in Iowa. So
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Amy was born in Iowa City, but in nineteen sixty eight,
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her father got a job as a professor at Northeastern
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University in Boston. Very smart family, Okay, So the family
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settled in the suburban town of Braintree, Massachusetts. That's a
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hard one for me, Massachusetts. First of all, I was
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like Braintree, what a name? Huh? Yeah, glad we had
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that talk. So the family moves great. That same year,
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Amy's younger brother, his name is Seth, he was born,
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making the family complete with two children, a boy and
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a girl. Growing up, Amy and Seth were raised in
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an environment that nurtured education, the arts, and science. It
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was very important to the family. Both children were musically talented.
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Amy bean playing violin in third grade and became like
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an accomplished violinist, and then Seth, her younger brother, also
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took up the violin. It was said that Amy felt
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like an outsider in Braintree. She was gifted, she was
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very smart, but she was socially awkward and it was
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said she was prone to outbursts. As Amy's mother put it,
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Amy had her father's temper. And that's like literally all
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that was ever said about the family because Amy's mom, Judy,
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she came across, from what I've learned, as like the
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protector of the family. She would never say anything negative
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about her children or her family, which is great, right,
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but not even after everything happened. It's bizarre. It's bizarre.
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And then her father, Sam, like not much was said
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about him. He seemed reserved, he didn't talk much, and
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if he did talk or give like an interview, it
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was always like through his wife, Judy. Judy would have
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an answer for everything. She had an answer for everything.
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Loved her Judy and the family. They were very like
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involved with the community and their neighbors and they were
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just all really close. So miss Amy, you know, she
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did really well in school. She was very very smart
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and in the late nineteen eighties, like she graduated in
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high school and she wanted to go after a career
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in science. Now her younger brother Seth incredible, Okay, he
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excelled in everything he did. First of all, I was like,
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is this guy real? Yes? Her brother Seth excelled as
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a violinist and was a member of the Greater Boston
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Youth Sympathy Orchestra and was going on to study electrical engineering.
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Everybody based off what I read, I don't know, but
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everyone loves Seth. They had nothing but positive things to
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say about him. He was always helping out the community.
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He won so many awards for his achievements. I couldn't
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name him because a lot of the words I couldn't
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even say. I was like, this guy's smart. Smart. But
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a tragic turning point in Amy's early life came in
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late nineteen eighty six. Let me tell you so. December sixth,
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nineteen eighty six, Amy, twenty one years old, shoots and
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kills her eighteen year old brother Seth with a twelve
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gage Mossburg shotgun in the family kitchen. I know, right
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out the gate, what yep. Here's what happened. Allegedly, on
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the day of the accident. Amy's mother, the only witness
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to set accident, said that she and Seth were in
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the kitchen preparing lunch when Amy came down the stairs
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with her father's shotgun in hand. Amy told them she
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was unable to unload the gun and needed help. She's like,
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I don't know how get it. So her mom instructed
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Amy to pump the gun, which ejected the first shell.
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Then Amy pumped it again, which she should not have done. Amy,
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thinking it was empty, pulled the trigger, shooting her brother
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right in the chest. Tragic. As Seth fell to the ground,
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Amy took off. She took off still with the shotgun
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in her hand. She fled leaving the family home. I
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was like, uh, huh, go on, tell me, muhum, please
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come out. It's a whole It's a whole thing, right.
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Seth sadly passes away. Amy was brought in to the
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police station for questioning, where she explained her side of things.
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Amy told investigators that she had been alone in the house,
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at least she thought she was, and she was feeling
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very anxious because about a year earlier, there was a
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break in at the family home. Now, these burglars, they
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stole a bunch of valuables and stuff, just stuff, right,
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and it left the family feeling very paranoid. According to Amy,
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she was home alone. She thought someone was breaking in again,
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so she went to her parents' room. She grabbed the
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shotgun and then she loaded it. Amy gets the gun,
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she goes back to her bedroom, where she said she
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tried to unload it and like remove the shells, but
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instead the gun had gone off in her bedroom, shattering
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her bedroom mirror. Amy said after that happened, she heard
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her mother and brother in the kitchen downstairs, so she
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brought the gun with her to ask Seth to help
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her unload it. It was an accident. She told them
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she did not mean to kill her brother. That was
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her version. I had some follow up questions. I was like, okay,
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so maybe if you're like me, you're thinking, huh hmm.
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Something does not making sense a shotgun going off upstairs
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and shattering your mirror. My first thought was when don't
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you think the family would hear this? Shotguns are loud
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as hell. I went down a rabbit with this specific
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shotgun and like it was explaining the what's it called
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decimals or whatever where Like, anyways, this specific shotgun, it
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messes up your hearing. You're kind of deaf for a
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minute or two. So it's like she heard her family downstairs,
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wouldn't she like whatever. Also, she mentioned to police that
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she originally like grabbed the gun right, she loaded it,
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and then when she was in her room she was
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unloading it when it went off and shattered her mirror,
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and I was like, what girl, Well, none of as
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this is makeing sense, but you know what, none of
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it even matters because the Massachusetts State Police in nineteen
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eighty six determined that the shooting was accidental and no
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charges were brought against Amy, and by nineteen eighty eight,
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detailed records of the shooting or this whole situation had
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completely disappeared from police records. Seth His death was an
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obviously major loss of the family but also to the
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community as well. He had like a very bright future
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ahead and all of it just came to like a
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very tragic end, a very questionable end too, you know.
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And after his death, the family tried tried their best
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to move forward, Like they didn't move. You think you
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would want to move, but it's okay, they didn't move.
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The family lived in the same house and they left
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Seth's room completely untouched, like it was a constant reminder
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every single day. I couldn't imagine Amy's father, I guess
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he seemed to like withdraw after this, while her mom
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was just trying to like keep the family together. Everything's okay,
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everything's great. It was said that Amy was sad, like
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she was sleeping in her parents' bed at the time
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and like was grieving, but she really didn't grieve that much. Instead,
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she just kind of hyper focused and put all of
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her energy into school and education and like that. Now,
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questions about the thoroughness of the investigation lingered for years.
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The community was like, okay, but nothing, nothing ever came
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of it. Now we will circle back to this because
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many years later, those police records that mysteriously disappeared they resurfaced.
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But for now, Seth's death was considered an accident and
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the family had to keep moving forward without their beloved
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son and brother. Oh and there's so much more into
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it that was uncovered. Just wait. So despite the family tragedy,
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Amy she pressed on with her education. She enrolled at
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Northeastern University in Boston, where her father was a professor,
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and she pursued a degree in biology. Now, Amy was
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known by her professors and stuff as a like a serious,
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high achieving student, and she was really known for her
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intellectual focus she was smartd according to people at this time.
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So while she's attending Northeastern, Amy she met a fellow student.
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His name is James Jim for short Anderson. They were
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in the same program and they met while they were undergraduates.
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I heard they actually met in like a Dungeons and
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Dragons group, but I don't know if that's true. But
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they meet and they hit it off and they start dating,
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both Amy and James. They earned their biology degrees from
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Northeastern in nineteen eighty eight. Then the following year, Amy
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and James were married. So things are kind of like
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happened at fast. They ended up having like a simple
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wedding ceremony at the same church where Amy's brother's funeral
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had been three years earlier. So they get married whatever.
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Amy continued directly into graduate studies, where she was accepted
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and to Harvard University's prestigious genetics doctoral program. So she's
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going to HARF. I was like, good for you, kind
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of not really while doing this, She and James would
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go on to have four children together, three girls and
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one boy. She's really juggling at all now, miss Amy. Here.
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She actually earned her PhD in genetics from Harvard in
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nineteen ninety three. Her graduate research focused on cellular physiology.
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What's that? I don't know, but that's what she did.
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Good for her. Again, by all accounts, uh, you know,
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Amy was diligent in her studies. One former instructor noted
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that she had been a high achiever since childhood and
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remained so like through her academic training. But there were
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murmurs amongst colleagues. Murmur mmm, people were talking. People were
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saying that Amy's PhD work wasn't very good. One anonymous
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Harvard source called it quote poor quality and that Amy
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did not deserve her doctoral degree. This same source even
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told The New Yorker that the fact that Amy graduated
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was quote local scandal number one. I was like, well,
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I think her murdering her brother was local scandal number one.
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But okay, regardless, Amy still got her Harvard degree, and
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then she actually became a professor at Harvard's medical school.
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So you know, this is no joke. She's working hard whatever.
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I'll give her that. After Amy completed her PhD in
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nineteen ninety three, a professor at Harvard Medical School. His
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name was Paul Rosenberg. He had actually worked with Amy
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on her dissertation. He Paul gets the mail one day,
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he opens up a package. This package is containing two
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pipe bombs. What luckily for him, these homemade looking bombs.
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They didn't explode, they didn't detonate, so obviously calls the police.
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It's a whole situation. Investigators. They actually quickly identified Amy
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and her husband James, as persons of why you ask, Well, well,
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let me tell you. There were rumors going around that
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Amy didn't like this Paul guy, and she felt that
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he was actually getting it. He was getting in the
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way of her receiving her doctorate. Now you know when
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all this came to light, like friends had come forward
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to investigators saying that Amy and her husband were quote
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unquote jokingly asking how one might build a pipe bomb. Lol.
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This happened around the same time as the unibomber was happening,
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which I did I murder mystery on if you're curious.
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So packages containing like homemade bombs were like in the conversation.
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So it's believed they were like using that as their cover, like,
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oh my god, you know obomber, right, I wonder how
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like how do you make a bomb? That's crazy? So
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Amy and James they were questioned by federal agents and
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of course they denied any involvement and no charges were filed.
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There was no concrete evidence connecting them to the homemade bombs,
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and to this day it's a mystery as to who
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sent that bomb. But people had their strong beliefs that,
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you know, allegedly it was Amy and James. Now, this incident,
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the whole pipe bomb thing, was actually kept quiet. It
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only came It only came to light, like many years
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later after Amy's name hit the national news for reasons
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we are getting into We're not there yet, but I'm
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you know, we've got signs of crazy lining up. Teaching
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wasn't Amy's only passion in life. She was really into
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creative writing. Amy believed that her writing would be like
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her ticket out of the academic world. She joined like
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local writers groups where people would share what they're working on,
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get feedback, et cetera. People in her her writers group,
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they didn't really like her that much. Now. They said
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that like, she was first of all, intense, and anytime
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someone describes Amy, they always say intense. And I was like, damn,
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what does that? What does that mean? But everyone says
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she's intense. She liked to brag to everyone that she
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had a literary agent. I'm sure if that's true, but
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she told everyone that. And she would also brag that
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she was like distantly related to the well known writer
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John Irving. Oh and I think she was or whatever.
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It's not like she whatever. So she was always like
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bragging about this kind of stuff, and people were like, Okay,
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if someone in the group gave her feedback on her
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writing or whatever, Amy would take it as like a
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personal attack and then remind everyone in the room that
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she had a Harvard degree. And did you know that
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I'm related to John Irving? How dare you critique me?
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It was like that people were just like, you know,
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you know, oh, I know. I was thinking, I don't
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know how she found the time to do all this,
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but she did. She loved writing, and by the end
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of the nineteen nineties she had written three novels, and
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even though none of them were published, she continued pursuing
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her passion for writing. Her three novels were dark thrillers,
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and the protagonist in her stories usually had like a
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career in science and were haunted by a death in
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their past, but in the end would be forgiven by God.
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There was always this theme. They were all similar in
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that kind of way. There's literally one story she wrote
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where the character in the book kills her brother and
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then God forgives her. Yeah, you could say it was
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a way for Amy to deal with her own, you know,
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life tragedy. But knowing what we know now or what
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you're gonna know now, it's like, girl, are these stories
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like low key confessions? So Amy's weird. Sometime goes by
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and there's this one Saturday morning in Peabody, Massachusetts, Amy,
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her four kids, and her husband went to ihop for breakfast,
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as one does Amy, you know, she asked the waitress
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for a booster seat for her baby boy. The waitress
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tells Amy, Oh, I'm so sorry, the last booster seat
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has been taken by like this woman with her children.
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They're all sitting at a booth already. This just set
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Amy off. Okay, that little tick in her brain, it
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was ticking. So Amy hears this, She's like, what no
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booster seat? So apparently Amy yelled at the waitress, telling
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her that we had been here first, like that's not fair,
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and then Amy her dumb ask. She stomps over to
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the lady who got the booster seat and started yelling
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at her. Do you know who I am? Do you
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know who I am? I'm doctor Amy Bishop yelling and
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it's like, okay, I couldn't imagine sitting there. You're like, ma'am,
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I'm just trying to have some pancakes with my kids.
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Why I don't care who you are. So because of this,
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the manager of ihop is like, please, you need to leave, please, okay,
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and Amy's like, fine, I'll leave. Fine. But before she left,
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she walked right on over to that lady with the
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booster seat and I'm not king she she punches her
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in the head, this poor woman in front of her children. Oh.
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The police were called. Amy was arrested and charged with assault, battery,
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and disorderly conduct. The charges ended up getting dropped and
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this incident wouldn't even appear on her record. Bizarre. And
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you know, it seemed like everyone kind of had an
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excuse for her behavior, they would say, like her husband
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and even her parents, her mom, They were like, she's
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under a life stress. You know, she's got four young kids,
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she's got the Harvard stuff, writing novels. She was also
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the main breadwinner in the face. She just snapped just
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forgive her, and so they did. So I hop attack leave,
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I hop out of this. Okay, she has that situation happened.
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Sure she's stressed out, that's fair, but you know you
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can't behave like that. People seem to keep excusing it
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for some odd reason. Well, then in two thousand and three,
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Amy got a job teaching biological sciences at the University
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of Alabama in Huntsville. Great opportunity, so she, James and
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their four kids moved down to Alabama, where she taught
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five different courses at the college. Now, while here, it
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seemed like Amy starts really going downhill in Huntsville, like
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she had no family or friends like she did back
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in Massachusetts. She was working all the time and again kids, family,
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her creative writing, like it was a lot, and she
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had no sense of community. So there was one member
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of the faculty who was actually like really concerned with
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Amy's behavior. This was someone on to say that within
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the first five minutes of meeting Amy, they knew that
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something was off with her and that they were actually
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worried about her mental health. I mean, it was said,
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but like, you know, nothing can be done about that.
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On top of this, Amy wasn't even popular with her students.
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It just seems like she was not the greatest teacher.
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Amy had dismissed several graduate students from her lab, and
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many of her other students throughout the years asked to
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be transferred out of her class side note. I know
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nobody likes the whole bleach brow movement that's going on,
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but I want to try it. Just let me have
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some fun. Okay, if you hate it, that's fine. It's
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just make up. It washes off, thank you. So people
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don't like Amy as a teacher, she's not great. Then
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in two thousand and nine, it's about six years into
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Amy's time at Youah University, Alabama, AMMA of Huntsville some uage. Okay,
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so she's there for about six years. Several students they
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actually end up like complaining to administrators about her. The
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students said that like overall bad teacher. Okay, she was
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super off and she had unsettling ways is what was said.
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A petition actually went around and was signed by dozens
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of students asking for her removal. They wanted they didn't
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like this jick. It seemed like students had been complaining
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about you know, Amy's teaching methods for quite a while,
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and even though no immediate action was taken by the university,
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Amy was denied tenure in March of two thousand and nine. Now,
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to me, Bailey sarian Hi, I didn't understand the world
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of tenure and this story alone sent me down this
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learning lesson about it. Let me explain not getting ten
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years like it's a big deal in academia because tenure
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essentially grant's job security and professional standing at a university
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or a college. Getting it can take like six or
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seven years, sometimes longer. To get tenure. There's a certain
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criteria that you have to meet in order to get it,
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usually publishing research, demonstrating effective teaching and other things. After
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that period, the professor undergoes a ten year review. If
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you get tenure, you're much harder to fire. You gain
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a level of prestige that can impact everything from your
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salary to research funding, your future as a whole. Now,
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if you don't get tenure, like an Amy's case, you
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typically have to leave that institution, like oftentimes right away,
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your career might stall and usually most struggle to find
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a similar position elsewhere. It's essentially like spending your ye
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and years or even your whole life proving that like
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you're the real deal, right education, publishing stuff, teaching, researching,
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only to be told no sorry bye. So for like
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many professors, being denied tenure can feel like a huge
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personal and professional failure, leaving them feeling really uncertain about
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their future. Because if you try to go a different
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college and apply for a job, like they're going to
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be like you were denied tenure, no sorry bye. After
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a review from the committee, Amy again was denied tenure.
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They believed she did not meet the criteria. Well when
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Amy found this out, it was I hop all over again.
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She was pissed. Okay, she completely disagreed with their decision,
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and she tried every which way she could to fight
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it and prove that she deserved tenure. You know, she
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goes to her husband James, and she's like, I even
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deny I danie Uh. He was completely shocked by the
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school's decision and stood by his wife's side, believing one
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hundred percent that the school had really done her wrong. Ultimately, though,
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the administration denied her appeal and their decision was final.
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I know I look crazy right now, Okay, it's just
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make up and wash us off. I'm trying to convince
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myself because I'm like, Relee, what'd you do? AnyWho? So
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Amy's deny tenure because of this in March of two
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thousand and nine. Her last semester teaching at UAH would
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be a Spring of twenty ten. That'd be it, She'd
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be done. So many of Amy's co workers had expressed
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concern over her intense behavior. According to them, like she
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would interrupt meetings with weird rants, she would make off
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the wall comments, and she was just not liked. It
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was hard to find someone saying so something positive about her. Yeah. So,
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after her tenure was denied, Amy found out that a
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coworker had called her crazy. Oh yeah, so she filed
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a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, And in
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this complaint she said she was a victim of sex discrimination.
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In the fact that this other professor had called her
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crazy was proof. This other professor in question, he didn't
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back down. He stood by the fact that he believed
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Amy was indeed off her rocker, saying that she was
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out of touch with reality and that she was mentally unwell.
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And yeah, he called her crazy. Maybe not the right word,
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but like he wasn't. He did not back down. That's
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what I'm getting at. Then came February twelve, twenty ten.
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That day, Amy taught her class as usual, and you know,
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a student later on said like, oh, she was her
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normal self in class. And then afterwards she headed to
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a faculty meeting with the biology department. So thirteen staff
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members all gathered in a conference room and they all
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are gonna like they all sit down. It's like a
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big oval oval desk, you know, they're all taking their place.
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And it started off like any other work meeting. I
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guess they had discussed holding like an open house during spring,
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you know, and then they talked about like plans for
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fall Amy sat there quietly. She didn't say anything, just
471
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listening to the conversations and honestly, like she didn't have
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to go to this meeting. So it was kind of
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weird because none of it applied to her since she
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wasn't going to be teaching there anymore. But they were like,
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just let her sit in, it's fine. So Amy sits
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there for almost an hour, and again she says nothing
477
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the entire time. Then she quietly gets up. She reaches
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00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.759
into her pocket and she pulls out a handgun. Then
479
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she starts shooting. She started with the person closest to her,
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Then she went down the row of seated professors, shooting
481
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each one in the head point blank. A survivor later
482
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.279
said that it wasn't random. This was no like random shooting.
483
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.680
Amy was going after people execution style, not saying a peep.
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People screamed, we're ducking for cover, but Amy was blocking
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the only exit. She instantly killed three people on her
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side of the oval conference room table, while the others
487
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:44.480
dropped the floor. This woman named Deborah, she's a biochemistry
488
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:48.200
professor who was in the room. She dove under the table.
489
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She crawled towards Amy and like grabbed onto her legs
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00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.680
and she's looking up at Amy and she's begging for
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her to stop. She's like, it's sad, it's really sad.
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And Deborah remembers that Amy points the gun at her
493
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:09.400
and Deborah's like, you know, right. Amy then pulls the
494
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trigger and all they heard was a click, you know, like,
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oh fuck it. So this moment gave Deborah a chance
496
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.279
to freaking run, which she did right for the door.
497
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:25.960
So Deborah takes off into the hallway. Well, Amy starts
498
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:31.079
following her gun pointed right at her and just click click,
499
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.119
the gun was jammed. Amy kept trying to fire, but
500
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.319
again it was jammed, so she's very frustrated. Amy. She
501
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.400
stops and she tries to unjam it. So Debra, she
502
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:47.480
actually took that moment to run back into the conference room,
503
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.200
where she in another colleague barricaded the door. Joseph eng,
504
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an associate professor who was also in the room, said
505
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that Deborah was probably the reason they were all still alive.
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I'm gonna do the other eye really quick. I'll bear
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it back just because it's hard to talk and do this.
508
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:14.519
Hold on, BRB, I lean this way. You can't tell. Oh,
509
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.039
it's driving me bananas. My eyeliner is not even okay.
510
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.440
I tried really hard and it's just not gonna happen.
511
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.319
And sometimes you have to accept that. And I need
512
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.799
to move on because Murder Mystery people are dead, Bailey, like,
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00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.519
if your eyelinder's fine. So on that day, six people
514
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.920
have been shot. Three of them were shot fatally. The
515
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.799
entire episode had lasted less than a minute. These victims
516
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.119
included Gopi Podila, who at the time was the chairman
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of the University's Department of Biological Sciences. The second victim
518
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.039
was Maria Davis, who was an associate professor of biology,
519
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and the last victim was Adriel D. Johnson, Senior, who
520
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was also an associate professor of biology. Amy also so
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wounded three other staff members who were taken to the hospital.
522
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One got released like the next day, and there were
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00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.199
two other victims who got shot who stayed in the
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hospital for over two months. But both would go on
525
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.400
to recover physically, you know, but now they had to
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live with this horrible, horrible memory. So after getting locked
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00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.039
out of the meeting room because they remember they had
528
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.199
barricaded the door, Amy acted calmly. She went to the
529
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.599
ladies room where she rinsed off the gun in the sink.
530
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Then she stuffed the murder weapon and her bloodstained blazer
531
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into the bathrooms like trash can. She then went into
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one of the science labs and asked a student if
533
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.920
she could borrow their cell phone, which she does. The
534
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.360
first thing she does is she calls her husband, James,
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00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:52.440
who would normally pick her up after class. So she
536
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.800
calls him up and all she tells him on the
537
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.400
phone is I'm done. So Amy tried to leave out
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00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.440
of like a back door, but luckily was quickly arrested
539
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.039
by police. Shortly after being arrested, Amy started saying that
540
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.760
the shooting didn't happen. She kept saying that there was
541
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.440
no way she did it, and when police asked her
542
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about her dead colleagues, Amy said that they were all
543
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.800
still alive. No, ma'am, they're not. You shot them. Remember
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00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.159
it happened three seconds ago. So, you know, Amy gets arrested,
545
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.519
and then at some point police interview her husband, James.
546
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They're like, you know, where she get the gun? All
547
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.440
that stuff? What's up with your wife? You know whatever.
548
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.039
So James tells the police that they actually bought the
549
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.280
gun from a family friend years earlier. James also told
550
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:45.800
police that just a week ago, he and Amy went
551
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to the gun range together to target practice. Why why
552
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.960
now it was like they never did this, They never
553
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.639
went to shooting ranges base offlight I read. I could
554
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.920
be completely one hundred percent wrong, but like it was.
555
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.000
It was weird. But her husband, like, you know, he
556
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.199
had nothing to say. They had nothing on him. He
557
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:11.519
wasn't allegedly involved in any way. And so the weird
558
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.719
guy will get to I'll talk about him at the end.
559
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After Amy was arrested, this is when her past came
560
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:24.519
to light, especially the accidental death of her brother, Seth.
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Braintree police started looking at seth nineteen eighty six death
562
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a little differently. But the problem was, remember all the
563
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:38.719
records of Seth's shooting had disappeared. So Braintree's twenty ten
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police chief, his name was Chief Paul Fraser. He had
565
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his own theory on what happened with the brother situation.
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He believed that the police chief back in nineteen eighty
567
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.960
six was in cahoots with Amy's mom to cover up
568
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.519
the murder. He even said, like maybe cover ups the
569
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wrong way. Maybe it was more of like the police
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00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.440
chief at the time was looking the other way. Whatever.
571
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:09.079
But according to the police chief Frasier, Amy's mom was
572
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like a big political supporter of the other police chief
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at the time of the incident. And when Amy first
574
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:19.840
got arrested when she was a kid, it was said
575
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.079
that Judy came into the police department and said, I
576
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.079
need to speak to the police chief. We're good friends.
577
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:26.679
I needed to speak to him. But she called him
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00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:28.719
by his first name, and all the police at the
579
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.119
station were like, Uh, that's kind of weird, like, why
580
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.119
are you on a first name basis with this guy?
581
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But apparently they spoke whatever, and the police officer that
582
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.639
was questioning Amy was told that it was an accident
583
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and to let her go. That's allegedly like what happened.
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According to Amy's mom, Judy, you know, she denied these allegations,
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00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.519
saying like that was completely ridiculous, that never happened, even
586
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.239
though there are people who said it did. But then
587
00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.320
four days after Amy's attack, police were able to find
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00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.599
the missing files related to Seth's death. Yeah, magically they appeared.
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00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.760
They actually just went looking for them, seems like, but whatever.
590
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.159
After further review, the district attorney was like, yeah, this
591
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.400
Amy chick, she should have been charged. Let me tell
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00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.280
you why because there's more. Okay, let me tell you who.
593
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.000
Let me tell you. So, remember how she accidentally quote
594
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.400
unquote shot her brother, then she fled the house. Yeah,
595
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.719
they kind of like breeze past that. I was like, what, Well,
596
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.000
it turns out there was more to the story. So
597
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after shooting her brother Seth, Amy took off, leaving through
598
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:36.599
the home her house like the back door, taking the
599
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.480
shotgun with her. She ended up running through like some
600
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.760
wooded area and she ended up in an alley that
601
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.079
came to like a dead end to like an auto
602
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.719
dealership place. So, according to the employees working there, Amy
603
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.280
came into the shop holding the gun, pointing it at them,
604
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.400
demanding that they give her keys to a car. The
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00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.679
men they took a chance and they ran. We don't
606
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.480
know how after that, but she ends up outside of
607
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:06.320
the dealership. So a police officer was in the area
608
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.360
actually looking for Amy, you know, when he came across
609
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.599
her outside. So according to police notes, you know, they
610
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.239
tell Amy to drop the weapon. They're demanding they're calling
611
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.159
to her drop the weapon because she's still holding it
612
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:21.960
and she's kind of like she's got a firm grip
613
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.679
on it. And they said in the notes that she
614
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.559
was like pointing it towards them. So they keep telling
615
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:29.119
her to drop the weapon. She's not dropping it, and
616
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.480
this goes on for like a bit of time. Eventually,
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00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.400
a police officer like sneaks up behind her, points a
618
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.440
gun at her and tells her, like, you know, drop
619
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:43.280
the weapon, and then she did. She finally does, She
620
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.039
lets go, She puts her hands up and then she
621
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.480
was arrested. So with that information, the new police chief
622
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:54.159
was like, yeah, she definitely should have been charged. Pointing
623
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.360
a loaded gun at anybody. Anybody, let alone a police
624
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:03.199
officer is grounds for a felony charge. That alone. So
625
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.679
it was like, what the the you know, what was
626
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.480
that about? So the Massachusetts governor ordered the state police
627
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to review the investigation to Seth's death, and apparently in
628
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:18.000
this new inquest, a shocking new detail was found. So
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the day of seth death, the home wasn't treated like
630
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.000
a crime scene. So unfortunately, they didn't have any proof
631
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.079
of evidence. They had like a couple of photos and
632
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.360
that was it. But in one of those photos, uh,
633
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.480
there was a picture of Amy's room. So they're looking
634
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.719
at this photo. Okay, it's an enlarged crime scene photo
635
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.400
of Amy's room, and in it showed a news article
636
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.119
on the floor of her bedroom. And the news article
637
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.119
was like a crime similar to hers in the photo.
638
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.400
Well yeah, hold on, hold on, let me get this
639
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.880
eyelash on. The article was about an actor named Patrick
640
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.679
Duffy ring a bell. No me neither. I was like,
641
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.480
who's that? Well, he was on the show Dallas. Now
642
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:07.119
his parents were killed with a twelve gage shotgun, and
643
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:11.039
then the people who did it they fled after killing
644
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:12.880
the parents. They fled and they held up a car
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00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.559
dealership where they stole a truck, and they fled. Investigators
646
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.960
believed that that article in the crime scene photo of
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her bedroom may be proof of like inspiration, because they
648
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.639
kind of you know, so they saw that and they
649
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.679
were like, that's kind of interesting, huh. On top of that,
650
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:35.599
in the police report, it said that they found a
651
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:38.960
box of twenty five rounds on Amy's bed. One was
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00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.559
fired in her room, a second round was used to
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kill Seth. Then there was a third round that was
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00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.639
found after Amy's arrest in her jacket pocket, and then
655
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:55.440
police found a fourth round in the chamber ready to fire. So,
656
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according to police, at some point after shooting Seth, Amy
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00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.719
must have racked the slide. I think that racked the slide,
658
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Is that how I'm saying about. She must have done
659
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.079
that and then loaded a fresh round before being arrested,
660
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which I'm sure we can all agree here is odd behavior.
661
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If this was all just an accident, right well, just
662
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.960
three days after they're shooting at Uah. Amy was charged
663
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.519
with one count of capital murder and three counts of
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attempted murder. So she's sitting in jail right. A few
665
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.599
months later, in June of twenty ten, Amy was indicted
666
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for the nineteen eighty six killing of her brother. Uh oh.
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And this is really when like all of the information
668
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.039
started to come out, like about the pipe bomb belief,
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00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:46.679
you know, situation, the IHOP incident, her being shady when
670
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.960
she was trying to get tenure. So all this is
671
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.159
coming out, and I guess Amy is just having a
672
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:56.639
hard time because two days later, you know, when she
673
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.960
finds out she's being indicted for the killing of her brother,
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00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.360
Amy attempts to end her life in jail. She wasn't successful,
675
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.519
but she tried. You know. Amy told her friends that
676
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she didn't want to spend the rest of her life
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in a tiny box. Oh god, I freaking roll right.
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00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.039
I was just like, shut up, maybe you shouldn't have
679
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.519
killed any money, dumb bitch. What is stupid comment? I
680
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.440
hate stupid comments like don't know, shut up, Okay, thank you,
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00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.000
there's more just you wait. Once Amy was in jail,
682
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.079
her court appointed lawyer went, you know, to go visit her.
683
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.800
Her lawyer literally said, quote, something is wrong with this lady.
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End quote. I was like, yeah, I think something is
685
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.360
wrong that is valid and correct. I think Amy entered
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a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity. The
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00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.000
defense hired a ton of different psychiatrists, you know, to
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00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.880
evaluate her, but they could not conclude that she had
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00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.039
like a certain mental illness. A few months later, in
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November of twenty ten, to of the survivors from the
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university shooting me filed lawsuits against Amy and James, and
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then in January of twenty eleven, two of the victim's
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00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:11.960
families filed wrongful death suits against Amy, James, and the university.
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I know, I was like James two, but I couldn't
695
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.920
figure out how he was like involved. I wanted more information,
696
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.719
but like her husband is just something ain't right there,
697
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.000
But whatever, okay. Amy's lawyer urged her to plead guilty
698
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:31.519
in exchange for the prosecution not to seek the death penalty. Technically,
699
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.440
Amy wanted the death penalty, and she said that outright,
700
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.280
but her lawyer told her, like, look, even if you
701
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.880
get the death sentence, it takes forever for them actually
702
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.199
to kill you, so they'll do that. So in September
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00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.119
of twenty twelve, Amy changed her plea to guilty. There
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was still a short trial, you know, per Alabama law,
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in which the jury heard like a shortened version of
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the evidence. So Amy was taken to court in her
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red jail uniform. She's looking like Lord far aquad. Okay,
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she's got that haircut, all right, She's yep. She had
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her feet shackled. She sat between her two defense attorneys,
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and when the trial began, Amy would just shake her
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her head anytime someone said that her killing spree was intentional,
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and that's like upset the district attorney. The district attorney
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was like, it doesn't make sense for Amy to be
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shaking her head in denial like that. You can't just
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take a loaded gun, shoot it like a person's head
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and then say you didn't mean to do it. Makes
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no sense. During the trial, an investigator testified that police
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believed Amy opened fire during that faculty meeting because she
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was angry over being to nine tenure. The ones that
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were targeted, the ones that she murdered, were the ones
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who voted against her receiving tenure. After the short hearing,
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the jury deliberated for twenty minutes before finding Amy guilt.
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Of course, Amy was sentenced to life in prison without
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the possibility of parole, and though like Amy did not
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speak in court, her lawyer said that she often expressed
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great remorse for what she did, saying she was quote
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horrified by the UAH incident end quote which pissed me
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off because she never referred to it as like a
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like what she did. She kept saying it was a
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UAH incident. She kept calling an incident like bitch, you
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murdered people. Wait, anyways, she was horrified by the UAH incident.
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And also you know, she told people that she had
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no memory of it. None. It's crazy. In February of
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twenty thirteen, Amy filed an appeal. The thing is Amy
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didn't realize that with a guilty please, she had also
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waived her right to an appeal. So then, because she's
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exhausting and she never gives up. In her appeal, she
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claimed that she had not been told of the rights
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she'd be waving with her guilty plea. It went back
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and forth for quite some time, but the court essentially
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rejected it. She's still trying to this day, really, and
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so with this in mind, Amy decided to try and
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clear her name for something else. Her brother's death. She
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told the public defender that she wanted to be tried
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for her brother's death because she wanted the truth to
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come out and she wanted for her and her family
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to finally get closure. It looks like it was going
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to happen, but the courts decided not to go through
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with it, saying that she's already serving like a life sentence.
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You know, she's already served, like they just didn't see
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the point in doing it. So to this day, she
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is still serving her sentence at the Julia Tuttweiler Prison.
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Did I say that right? Let me know what Probab didn't.
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It's a prison for women, and it's in with Tumka Alabama.
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She's there. She's still trying to appeal. I write in
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one article as the reason whatever and as a girl, stop,
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it's not gonna happen for you. Okay, stop, you murdered people. Stop,
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get a new haircut. And that's where she sits. But
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get this, because my god, talk about another tragic twist.
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My brain kind of low key was like what. So
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remember Amy and her husband, Sketchy James, had four kids,
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three girls and a boy. So Amy's youngest son was
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literally born on her brother's birthday. Remember, it was still
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all an accident at this point, and so you know what.
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She named her son, Seth after her brother. In April
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twenty twenty one, Amy's in prison, her son and a
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few friends were hanging out in a parking lot in
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a friend's car. So one of the kids had a gun. Yep,
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one of the kids. They are like seventeen or eighteen
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years old, these kids. One of the kids has a
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gun and was like, look, oh, you know, it's a
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show it off. Well, the gun accidentally went off and
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Amy's son, Seth, was killed instantly. I was like, the
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Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away? Right, according to police, like,
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her son's death had nothing to do with her mom's
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crimes at all, point blank period, But my god, what
777
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are the odds of that? Right? Tragic? The kid who
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accidentally shot the gun, I believe it is still awaiting
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his trial. I couldn't find any updates on that. But yeah,
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So yeah, that's the story about Amy Bishop and what
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a crazy ass bitch she is. I have some ending
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thoughts because I didn't know how to end this. There
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00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.039
was so much more I want to say. So her
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parents have like remained quiet. Obviously, that's that's Faire's valid.
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And they only speak highly of Amy even after the shooting,
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going on to say that Amy is should I find
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the direct quote? Hold on, let me find the direct quote.
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Shut up, everything's a mess. Over a year after the
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shooting spree, Judy, specifically, her mom said to the media
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that Amy Amy is a brilliant, brilliant girl, and she
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just snapped and that's literally all they said about their daughter.
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I love that I busted this out for that one thing.
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Can you tell by that one comment that maybe, like
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you know, they they have a hard time accepting truth
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the family. It seems in my personal opinion, I could
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be completely wrong, but whatever her husband, James, I was
797
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trying to figure out what the hell was up with him,
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because I believe personally, in my opinion, he was involved
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in some way. He truly seemed like her main hype man, like, uh,
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if Amy was mad at someone, he was like, yeah, yeah,
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that guy sucks. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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Like that person who you could be completely wrong, but
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that hype person is like, yeah, you're right, Yeah, that
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was her husband. And I think we can all because
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can say, like it was odd that they went to
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a shooting range together literally the week before, and it
807
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was like why now, like what did he know? He
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was allegedly not involved in any way, shape or form
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or had no idea that his wife was going to
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do this, but it was just like, I had so
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many more questions with the guy. Amy literally said that, like,
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her husband's too smart to work, so he didn't And
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I think that kind of says a lot too. I
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don't know what I'm getting at. Exhausting story, Okay, I
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think we can all agree here that Amy should have
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been arrested for her brother's death. Luckily that police chief
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the original one and all that they're all out of there,
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uh and have passed on. I believe I think we
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can all agree that she should have been arrested for
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her brother's death period right now. Listen to this. Now,
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this was rumors, so I didn't know where to put it.
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There were rumors going around at the morning of her
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brother's death, Amy and her father got into a heated spot.
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There were beliefs that Amy thought it was her father
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coming home and not her brother slash mother. The newspaper
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article that was found on her bedroom floor made me think, like, oh,
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she was going to kill her parents or maybe just
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her father and maybe not her brother. And literally those
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are all just rumors, but I wanted to kind of
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believe that because the only information you would hear from
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Amy's mom, Judy, was that, like, oh, Amy's got a temper,
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like just like her dad, Amy and her dad would
833
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bump heads. But it was nothing like it was nothing.
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Oh no, no, no, no, no no. But there was
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definitely something. There was something, ma'am. There was something. Amy
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has never given like a clear answer as to why
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she did anything, any of this down to the IHOP situation,
838
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:51.480
and she doesn't remember anything. The one thing she has
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said to the media, she's complained that since being in prison,
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she feels like her IQ is dropping due to everyone's
841
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:04.679
poor vocabulary. And that is the story of Amy Bishop.
842
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.000
So many victims, so many opportunities for her to get
843
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arrested and potentially like not lead to this situation. But unfortunately,
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I don't know what the fuck was going on behind
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00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.440
those scenes. I don't know if she was sucking dead,
846
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I don't know, if people were getting paid off. I
847
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.599
don't know. But isn't it weird that she kept getting
848
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.599
off weird huh. Probably won't get any answers there, and
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I think all we can do is hope that the
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justice system does better next time. Right, Well, you guys,
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thank you so much for hanging out with me today.
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I'm laughing because I don't know. Thank you. Let me
853
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.880
know who you want me to talk about next time?
854
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:50.880
And what do you think of this? Look, I'm feeling
855
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.719
like a little like a little like a little alien
856
00:53:56.079 --> 00:54:05.599
alien alien space girl, space girl from outer space. Yeah, yeah, okay,
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Hi guys, I want to pop in here again to
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let you know I will have a new murder Mystery
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and makeup coming in May. I know, don't worry, don't worry. Okay,
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during the month of April, I'm still gonna have murder
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Mystery and makeup videos coming on every other Monday, as
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I've been doing. In April, one of the videos will
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be a murder mystery and makeup like compilation, three hour
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type of type of video. Look, I've seen so many
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comments throughout the years where people have told me that
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they fall asleep to my voice and my videos. So
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with that in mind, I thought I would create compilation
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videos for you guys, The Sleepers the I just need
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something playing in the background while I clean viewers. You
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know what I'm saying. And honestly, the last few months,
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like Loki, I've already been doing this and just not
872
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saying anything because I'm weird. But I've already uploaded a
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couple of compilation like murder Mystery makeup videos truly with
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the sleepers in mind. Yeah, I was thinking about you.
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I mean, I know, for myself personally, I fall asleep
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to sixty minute rerun videos on YouTube, So I understand,
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I understand I am. Therefore, I want to make something
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for you. Then I will be releasing a murder Mystery
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audio exclusive that's never been uploaded here on YouTube. Oh yeah,
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I do audio exclusive like true crime cases over on
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my Murder Mystery Makeup podcast. So I thought during my
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time off, we could take one of those and like
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turn it into a YouTube video for you. Yeah. Needless
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to say, videos will still be coming. But if you're
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confused as to why I'm uploading on compilation or an
886
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audio exclusive video, it's because you girl needs to go
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outside and get something some light. Okay, I need to
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go outside and get some air, and that's what I'll
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be doing. In the month of April. If you watch
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Dark History, nothing is changing there. I just wanted to
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let you guys know, give you a heads up. Thank
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you for understanding, because I know you understand. I appreciate
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you guys so much for watching. I hope you make
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very good choices and I will be seeing you very soon. Goodbye.
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Hi friends, How are you today? My name is Bailey
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Sarian and today is Monday, which means it's murder, Mystery
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and Makeup Monday. If you're new here, Hi, my name
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is Bailey. And on Mondays, I sit down and I
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But other than that, let me tell you about today's story.
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probably think it's cute. I'm just spending like a couple
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stories and this one again just like Terry Schivo, just
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like Sarah Boone, like these people are are so I've
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for partnering with me on today's episode. Now let's get
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into today's story. Let me set this thing for you. Okay.
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It's February twelfth, twenty ten, and it's just like another
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day at the University of Alabama. Professors are gathering in
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a small conference room, you know, just to have like
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another routine faculty meeting on again this like ordinary Friday afternoon.
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The meeting goes on for about like forty five minutes, okay,
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until one of their own stands up, pulls out a
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gun and starts firing it's total chaos. Survivors flee, but
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three are left dead. Now this wasn't some just random
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act of violence, Nay nay, nay nay, Because when investigators
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started digging into this killer's past, let me tell you,
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they uncovered something many things so disturbing, so deeply buried
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that it left everyone asking how the hell did no
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one see this coming? Listen? This is a story of
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Amy Bishop, a Harvard trained neuroscientist with a deadly temper,
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a past full of secrets, and a trail of violence
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that started long before that awful, awful, awful day. And
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trust me, by the end of this, you're gonna be like,
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what the what in the what in the butt was that?
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Because that's what I was saying. So let me cut
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my hair back. I have my handy tandy notebook just
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in case I need to reference my notes. I take
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many notes when I do these, and a lot of
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the stuff in this today's story. You know, I would
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love to do a three hour episode, but I think
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four people would probably watch, so I had to like
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leave some stuff out, but I kept what I thought
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was the most important stuff in. But I'll refer to
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my notebook just in case, just in case, So let
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me tell you about this Amy Lady. So Amy was
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born on April twenty fourth, nineteen sixty five, to her parents,
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Judith or Judy and Samuel sam Bishop. Now. At the time,
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her father was completing his graduate studies in Iowa. So
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Amy was born in Iowa City, but in nineteen sixty eight,
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her father got a job as a professor at Northeastern
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University in Boston. Very smart family, Okay, So the family
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settled in the suburban town of Braintree, Massachusetts. That's a
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hard one for me, Massachusetts. First of all, I was
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like Braintree, what a name? Huh? Yeah, glad we had
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that talk. So the family moves great. That same year,
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Amy's younger brother, his name is Seth, he was born,
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making the family complete with two children, a boy and
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a girl. Growing up, Amy and Seth were raised in
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an environment that nurtured education, the arts, and science. It
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was very important to the family. Both children were musically talented.
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Amy bean playing violin in third grade and became like
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an accomplished violinist, and then Seth, her younger brother, also
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took up the violin. It was said that Amy felt
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like an outsider in Braintree. She was gifted, she was
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very smart, but she was socially awkward and it was
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said she was prone to outbursts. As Amy's mother put it,
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Amy had her father's temper. And that's like literally all
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that was ever said about the family because Amy's mom, Judy,
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she came across, from what I've learned, as like the
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protector of the family. She would never say anything negative
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about her children or her family, which is great, right,
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but not even after everything happened. It's bizarre. It's bizarre.
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about him. He seemed reserved, he didn't talk much, and
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if he did talk or give like an interview, it
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was always like through his wife, Judy. Judy would have
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an answer for everything. She had an answer for everything.
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Loved her Judy and the family. They were very like
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involved with the community and their neighbors and they were
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just all really close. So miss Amy, you know, she
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did really well in school. She was very very smart
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and in the late nineteen eighties, like she graduated in
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high school and she wanted to go after a career
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in science. Now her younger brother Seth incredible, Okay, he
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excelled in everything he did. First of all, I was like,
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is this guy real? Yes? Her brother Seth excelled as
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a violinist and was a member of the Greater Boston
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Youth Sympathy Orchestra and was going on to study electrical engineering.
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Everybody based off what I read, I don't know, but
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everyone loves Seth. They had nothing but positive things to
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say about him. He was always helping out the community.
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He won so many awards for his achievements. I couldn't
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name him because a lot of the words I couldn't
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even say. I was like, this guy's smart. Smart. But
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a tragic turning point in Amy's early life came in
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late nineteen eighty six. Let me tell you so. December sixth,
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nineteen eighty six, Amy, twenty one years old, shoots and
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kills her eighteen year old brother Seth with a twelve
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gage Mossburg shotgun in the family kitchen. I know, right
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out the gate, what yep. Here's what happened. Allegedly, on
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the day of the accident. Amy's mother, the only witness
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to set accident, said that she and Seth were in
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the kitchen preparing lunch when Amy came down the stairs
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with her father's shotgun in hand. Amy told them she
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was unable to unload the gun and needed help. She's like,
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I don't know how get it. So her mom instructed
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Amy to pump the gun, which ejected the first shell.
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Then Amy pumped it again, which she should not have done. Amy,
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thinking it was empty, pulled the trigger, shooting her brother
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right in the chest. Tragic. As Seth fell to the ground,
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Amy took off. She took off still with the shotgun
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in her hand. She fled leaving the family home. I
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was like, uh, huh, go on, tell me, muhum, please
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come out. It's a whole It's a whole thing, right.
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Seth sadly passes away. Amy was brought in to the
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police station for questioning, where she explained her side of things.
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Amy told investigators that she had been alone in the house,
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at least she thought she was, and she was feeling
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very anxious because about a year earlier, there was a
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break in at the family home. Now, these burglars, they
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stole a bunch of valuables and stuff, just stuff, right,
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and it left the family feeling very paranoid. According to Amy,
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she was home alone. She thought someone was breaking in again,
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so she went to her parents' room. She grabbed the
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shotgun and then she loaded it. Amy gets the gun,
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she goes back to her bedroom, where she said she
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tried to unload it and like remove the shells, but
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instead the gun had gone off in her bedroom, shattering
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her bedroom mirror. Amy said after that happened, she heard
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her mother and brother in the kitchen downstairs, so she
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brought the gun with her to ask Seth to help
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her unload it. It was an accident. She told them
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she did not mean to kill her brother. That was
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her version. I had some follow up questions. I was like, okay,
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so maybe if you're like me, you're thinking, huh hmm.
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Something does not making sense a shotgun going off upstairs
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and shattering your mirror. My first thought was when don't
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you think the family would hear this? Shotguns are loud
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as hell. I went down a rabbit with this specific
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shotgun and like it was explaining the what's it called
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decimals or whatever where Like, anyways, this specific shotgun, it
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messes up your hearing. You're kind of deaf for a
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minute or two. So it's like she heard her family downstairs,
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wouldn't she like whatever. Also, she mentioned to police that
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she originally like grabbed the gun right, she loaded it,
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and then when she was in her room she was
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unloading it when it went off and shattered her mirror,
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and I was like, what girl, Well, none of as
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this is makeing sense, but you know what, none of
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it even matters because the Massachusetts State Police in nineteen
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eighty six determined that the shooting was accidental and no
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charges were brought against Amy, and by nineteen eighty eight,
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detailed records of the shooting or this whole situation had
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completely disappeared from police records. Seth His death was an
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obviously major loss of the family but also to the
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community as well. He had like a very bright future
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ahead and all of it just came to like a
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very tragic end, a very questionable end too, you know.
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And after his death, the family tried tried their best
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to move forward, Like they didn't move. You think you
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would want to move, but it's okay, they didn't move.
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The family lived in the same house and they left
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Seth's room completely untouched, like it was a constant reminder
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every single day. I couldn't imagine Amy's father, I guess
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he seemed to like withdraw after this, while her mom
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was just trying to like keep the family together. Everything's okay,
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everything's great. It was said that Amy was sad, like
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she was sleeping in her parents' bed at the time
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and like was grieving, but she really didn't grieve that much. Instead,
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she just kind of hyper focused and put all of
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her energy into school and education and like that. Now,
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questions about the thoroughness of the investigation lingered for years.
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The community was like, okay, but nothing, nothing ever came
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of it. Now we will circle back to this because
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many years later, those police records that mysteriously disappeared they resurfaced.
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But for now, Seth's death was considered an accident and
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the family had to keep moving forward without their beloved
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son and brother. Oh and there's so much more into
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it that was uncovered. Just wait. So despite the family tragedy,
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Amy she pressed on with her education. She enrolled at
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Northeastern University in Boston, where her father was a professor,
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and she pursued a degree in biology. Now, Amy was
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known by her professors and stuff as a like a serious,
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high achieving student, and she was really known for her
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intellectual focus she was smartd according to people at this time.
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So while she's attending Northeastern, Amy she met a fellow student.
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His name is James Jim for short Anderson. They were
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in the same program and they met while they were undergraduates.
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I heard they actually met in like a Dungeons and
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Dragons group, but I don't know if that's true. But
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they meet and they hit it off and they start dating,
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both Amy and James. They earned their biology degrees from
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Northeastern in nineteen eighty eight. Then the following year, Amy
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and James were married. So things are kind of like
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happened at fast. They ended up having like a simple
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wedding ceremony at the same church where Amy's brother's funeral
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had been three years earlier. So they get married whatever.
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Amy continued directly into graduate studies, where she was accepted
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and to Harvard University's prestigious genetics doctoral program. So she's
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going to HARF. I was like, good for you, kind
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of not really while doing this, She and James would
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go on to have four children together, three girls and
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one boy. She's really juggling at all now, miss Amy. Here.
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She actually earned her PhD in genetics from Harvard in
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nineteen ninety three. Her graduate research focused on cellular physiology.
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What's that? I don't know, but that's what she did.
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Good for her. Again, by all accounts, uh, you know,
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Amy was diligent in her studies. One former instructor noted
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that she had been a high achiever since childhood and
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remained so like through her academic training. But there were
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murmurs amongst colleagues. Murmur mmm, people were talking. People were
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saying that Amy's PhD work wasn't very good. One anonymous
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Harvard source called it quote poor quality and that Amy
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did not deserve her doctoral degree. This same source even
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told The New Yorker that the fact that Amy graduated
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was quote local scandal number one. I was like, well,
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I think her murdering her brother was local scandal number one.
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then she actually became a professor at Harvard's medical school.
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So you know, this is no joke. She's working hard whatever.
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I'll give her that. After Amy completed her PhD in
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nineteen ninety three, a professor at Harvard Medical School. His
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name was Paul Rosenberg. He had actually worked with Amy
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on her dissertation. He Paul gets the mail one day,
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he opens up a package. This package is containing two
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pipe bombs. What luckily for him, these homemade looking bombs.
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They didn't explode, they didn't detonate, so obviously calls the police.
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It's a whole situation. Investigators. They actually quickly identified Amy
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and her husband James, as persons of why you ask, Well, well,
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let me tell you. There were rumors going around that
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Amy didn't like this Paul guy, and she felt that
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he was actually getting it. He was getting in the
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way of her receiving her doctorate. Now you know when
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all this came to light, like friends had come forward
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to investigators saying that Amy and her husband were quote
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unquote jokingly asking how one might build a pipe bomb. Lol.
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This happened around the same time as the unibomber was happening,
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which I did I murder mystery on if you're curious.
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So packages containing like homemade bombs were like in the conversation.
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So it's believed they were like using that as their cover, like,
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oh my god, you know obomber, right, I wonder how
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like how do you make a bomb? That's crazy? So
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Amy and James they were questioned by federal agents and
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of course they denied any involvement and no charges were filed.
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There was no concrete evidence connecting them to the homemade bombs,
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and to this day it's a mystery as to who
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sent that bomb. But people had their strong beliefs that,
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you know, allegedly it was Amy and James. Now, this incident,
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the whole pipe bomb thing, was actually kept quiet. It
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only came It only came to light, like many years
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later after Amy's name hit the national news for reasons
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we are getting into We're not there yet, but I'm
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you know, we've got signs of crazy lining up. Teaching
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wasn't Amy's only passion in life. She was really into
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creative writing. Amy believed that her writing would be like
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her ticket out of the academic world. She joined like
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local writers groups where people would share what they're working on,
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get feedback, et cetera. People in her her writers group,
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they didn't really like her that much. Now. They said
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that like, she was first of all, intense, and anytime
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someone describes Amy, they always say intense. And I was like, damn,
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what does that? What does that mean? But everyone says
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she's intense. She liked to brag to everyone that she
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had a literary agent. I'm sure if that's true, but
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she told everyone that. And she would also brag that
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she was like distantly related to the well known writer
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John Irving. Oh and I think she was or whatever.
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It's not like she whatever. So she was always like
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bragging about this kind of stuff, and people were like, Okay,
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if someone in the group gave her feedback on her
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writing or whatever, Amy would take it as like a
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personal attack and then remind everyone in the room that
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she had a Harvard degree. And did you know that
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I'm related to John Irving? How dare you critique me?
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It was like that people were just like, you know,
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you know, oh, I know. I was thinking, I don't
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know how she found the time to do all this,
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but she did. She loved writing, and by the end
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of the nineteen nineties she had written three novels, and
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even though none of them were published, she continued pursuing
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her passion for writing. Her three novels were dark thrillers,
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and the protagonist in her stories usually had like a
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career in science and were haunted by a death in
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their past, but in the end would be forgiven by God.
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There was always this theme. They were all similar in
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that kind of way. There's literally one story she wrote
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where the character in the book kills her brother and
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then God forgives her. Yeah, you could say it was
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a way for Amy to deal with her own, you know,
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life tragedy. But knowing what we know now or what
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you're gonna know now, it's like, girl, are these stories
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like low key confessions? So Amy's weird. Sometime goes by
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and there's this one Saturday morning in Peabody, Massachusetts, Amy,
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her four kids, and her husband went to ihop for breakfast,
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as one does Amy, you know, she asked the waitress
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for a booster seat for her baby boy. The waitress
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tells Amy, Oh, I'm so sorry, the last booster seat
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has been taken by like this woman with her children.
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They're all sitting at a booth already. This just set
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Amy off. Okay, that little tick in her brain, it
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was ticking. So Amy hears this, She's like, what no
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booster seat? So apparently Amy yelled at the waitress, telling
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her that we had been here first, like that's not fair,
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and then Amy her dumb ask. She stomps over to
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the lady who got the booster seat and started yelling
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at her. Do you know who I am? Do you
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know who I am? I'm doctor Amy Bishop yelling and
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it's like, okay, I couldn't imagine sitting there. You're like, ma'am,
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I'm just trying to have some pancakes with my kids.
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Why I don't care who you are. So because of this,
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the manager of ihop is like, please, you need to leave, please, okay,
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and Amy's like, fine, I'll leave. Fine. But before she left,
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she walked right on over to that lady with the
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booster seat and I'm not king she she punches her
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in the head, this poor woman in front of her children. Oh.
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The police were called. Amy was arrested and charged with assault, battery,
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and disorderly conduct. The charges ended up getting dropped and
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this incident wouldn't even appear on her record. Bizarre. And
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you know, it seemed like everyone kind of had an
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excuse for her behavior, they would say, like her husband
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and even her parents, her mom, They were like, she's
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under a life stress. You know, she's got four young kids,
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she's got the Harvard stuff, writing novels. She was also
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the main breadwinner in the face. She just snapped just
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forgive her, and so they did. So I hop attack leave,
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I hop out of this. Okay, she has that situation happened.
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Sure she's stressed out, that's fair, but you know you
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can't behave like that. People seem to keep excusing it
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for some odd reason. Well, then in two thousand and three,
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Amy got a job teaching biological sciences at the University
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of Alabama in Huntsville. Great opportunity, so she, James and
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their four kids moved down to Alabama, where she taught
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five different courses at the college. Now, while here, it
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seemed like Amy starts really going downhill in Huntsville, like
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she had no family or friends like she did back
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in Massachusetts. She was working all the time and again kids, family,
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her creative writing, like it was a lot, and she
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had no sense of community. So there was one member
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of the faculty who was actually like really concerned with
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Amy's behavior. This was someone on to say that within
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the first five minutes of meeting Amy, they knew that
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something was off with her and that they were actually
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worried about her mental health. I mean, it was said,
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but like, you know, nothing can be done about that.
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On top of this, Amy wasn't even popular with her students.
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It just seems like she was not the greatest teacher.
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Amy had dismissed several graduate students from her lab, and
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many of her other students throughout the years asked to
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be transferred out of her class side note. I know
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nobody likes the whole bleach brow movement that's going on,
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but I want to try it. Just let me have
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some fun. Okay, if you hate it, that's fine. It's
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just make up. It washes off, thank you. So people
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don't like Amy as a teacher, she's not great. Then
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in two thousand and nine, it's about six years into
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Amy's time at Youah University, Alabama, AMMA of Huntsville some uage. Okay,
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so she's there for about six years. Several students they
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actually end up like complaining to administrators about her. The
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students said that like overall bad teacher. Okay, she was
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super off and she had unsettling ways is what was said.
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A petition actually went around and was signed by dozens
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of students asking for her removal. They wanted they didn't
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like this jick. It seemed like students had been complaining
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about you know, Amy's teaching methods for quite a while,
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and even though no immediate action was taken by the university,
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Amy was denied tenure in March of two thousand and nine. Now,
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to me, Bailey sarian Hi, I didn't understand the world
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of tenure and this story alone sent me down this
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learning lesson about it. Let me explain not getting ten
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years like it's a big deal in academia because tenure
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essentially grant's job security and professional standing at a university
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or a college. Getting it can take like six or
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seven years, sometimes longer. To get tenure. There's a certain
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criteria that you have to meet in order to get it,
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usually publishing research, demonstrating effective teaching and other things. After
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that period, the professor undergoes a ten year review. If
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you get tenure, you're much harder to fire. You gain
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a level of prestige that can impact everything from your
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salary to research funding, your future as a whole. Now,
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if you don't get tenure, like an Amy's case, you
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typically have to leave that institution, like oftentimes right away,
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your career might stall and usually most struggle to find
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a similar position elsewhere. It's essentially like spending your ye
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and years or even your whole life proving that like
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you're the real deal, right education, publishing stuff, teaching, researching,
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only to be told no sorry bye. So for like
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many professors, being denied tenure can feel like a huge
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personal and professional failure, leaving them feeling really uncertain about
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their future. Because if you try to go a different
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college and apply for a job, like they're going to
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be like you were denied tenure, no sorry bye. After
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a review from the committee, Amy again was denied tenure.
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They believed she did not meet the criteria. Well when
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Amy found this out, it was I hop all over again.
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She was pissed. Okay, she completely disagreed with their decision,
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and she tried every which way she could to fight
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it and prove that she deserved tenure. You know, she
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goes to her husband James, and she's like, I even
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deny I danie Uh. He was completely shocked by the
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school's decision and stood by his wife's side, believing one
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hundred percent that the school had really done her wrong. Ultimately, though,
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the administration denied her appeal and their decision was final.
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I know I look crazy right now, Okay, it's just
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make up and wash us off. I'm trying to convince
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myself because I'm like, Relee, what'd you do? AnyWho? So
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Amy's deny tenure because of this in March of two
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thousand and nine. Her last semester teaching at UAH would
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be a Spring of twenty ten. That'd be it, She'd
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be done. So many of Amy's co workers had expressed
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concern over her intense behavior. According to them, like she
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would interrupt meetings with weird rants, she would make off
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the wall comments, and she was just not liked. It
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was hard to find someone saying so something positive about her. Yeah. So,
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after her tenure was denied, Amy found out that a
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coworker had called her crazy. Oh yeah, so she filed
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a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, And in
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this complaint she said she was a victim of sex discrimination.
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In the fact that this other professor had called her
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crazy was proof. This other professor in question, he didn't
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back down. He stood by the fact that he believed
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Amy was indeed off her rocker, saying that she was
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out of touch with reality and that she was mentally unwell.
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And yeah, he called her crazy. Maybe not the right word,
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but like he wasn't. He did not back down. That's
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what I'm getting at. Then came February twelve, twenty ten.
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That day, Amy taught her class as usual, and you know,
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a student later on said like, oh, she was her
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normal self in class. And then afterwards she headed to
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a faculty meeting with the biology department. So thirteen staff
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members all gathered in a conference room and they all
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are gonna like they all sit down. It's like a
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big oval oval desk, you know, they're all taking their place.
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And it started off like any other work meeting. I
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guess they had discussed holding like an open house during spring,
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you know, and then they talked about like plans for
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fall Amy sat there quietly. She didn't say anything, just
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listening to the conversations and honestly, like she didn't have
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to go to this meeting. So it was kind of
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weird because none of it applied to her since she
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wasn't going to be teaching there anymore. But they were like,
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just let her sit in, it's fine. So Amy sits
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there for almost an hour, and again she says nothing
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the entire time. Then she quietly gets up. She reaches
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into her pocket and she pulls out a handgun. Then
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she starts shooting. She started with the person closest to her,
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Then she went down the row of seated professors, shooting
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each one in the head point blank. A survivor later
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said that it wasn't random. This was no like random shooting.
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Amy was going after people execution style, not saying a peep.
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People screamed, we're ducking for cover, but Amy was blocking
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the only exit. She instantly killed three people on her
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side of the oval conference room table, while the others
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dropped the floor. This woman named Deborah, she's a biochemistry
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professor who was in the room. She dove under the table.
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She crawled towards Amy and like grabbed onto her legs
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and she's looking up at Amy and she's begging for
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her to stop. She's like, it's sad, it's really sad.
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And Deborah remembers that Amy points the gun at her
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and Deborah's like, you know, right. Amy then pulls the
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trigger and all they heard was a click, you know, like,
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oh fuck it. So this moment gave Deborah a chance
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to freaking run, which she did right for the door.
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So Deborah takes off into the hallway. Well, Amy starts
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following her gun pointed right at her and just click click,
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the gun was jammed. Amy kept trying to fire, but
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again it was jammed, so she's very frustrated. Amy. She
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stops and she tries to unjam it. So Debra, she
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actually took that moment to run back into the conference room,
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where she in another colleague barricaded the door. Joseph eng,
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an associate professor who was also in the room, said
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that Deborah was probably the reason they were all still alive.
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I'm gonna do the other eye really quick. I'll bear
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it back just because it's hard to talk and do this.
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Hold on, BRB, I lean this way. You can't tell. Oh,
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it's driving me bananas. My eyeliner is not even okay.
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I tried really hard and it's just not gonna happen.
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And sometimes you have to accept that. And I need
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to move on because Murder Mystery people are dead, Bailey, like,
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if your eyelinder's fine. So on that day, six people
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have been shot. Three of them were shot fatally. The
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entire episode had lasted less than a minute. These victims
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included Gopi Podila, who at the time was the chairman
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of the University's Department of Biological Sciences. The second victim
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was Maria Davis, who was an associate professor of biology,
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and the last victim was Adriel D. Johnson, Senior, who
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was also an associate professor of biology. Amy also so
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wounded three other staff members who were taken to the hospital.
522
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One got released like the next day, and there were
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two other victims who got shot who stayed in the
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hospital for over two months. But both would go on
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to recover physically, you know, but now they had to
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live with this horrible, horrible memory. So after getting locked
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out of the meeting room because they remember they had
528
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.199
barricaded the door, Amy acted calmly. She went to the
529
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.599
ladies room where she rinsed off the gun in the sink.
530
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Then she stuffed the murder weapon and her bloodstained blazer
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into the bathrooms like trash can. She then went into
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one of the science labs and asked a student if
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she could borrow their cell phone, which she does. The
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first thing she does is she calls her husband, James,
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who would normally pick her up after class. So she
536
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calls him up and all she tells him on the
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00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.400
phone is I'm done. So Amy tried to leave out
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of like a back door, but luckily was quickly arrested
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00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.039
by police. Shortly after being arrested, Amy started saying that
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00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.760
the shooting didn't happen. She kept saying that there was
541
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no way she did it, and when police asked her
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about her dead colleagues, Amy said that they were all
543
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still alive. No, ma'am, they're not. You shot them. Remember
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it happened three seconds ago. So, you know, Amy gets arrested,
545
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and then at some point police interview her husband, James.
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They're like, you know, where she get the gun? All
547
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.440
that stuff? What's up with your wife? You know whatever.
548
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.039
So James tells the police that they actually bought the
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00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.280
gun from a family friend years earlier. James also told
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police that just a week ago, he and Amy went
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to the gun range together to target practice. Why why
552
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.960
now it was like they never did this, They never
553
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.639
went to shooting ranges base offlight I read. I could
554
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.920
be completely one hundred percent wrong, but like it was.
555
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.000
It was weird. But her husband, like, you know, he
556
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had nothing to say. They had nothing on him. He
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00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:11.519
wasn't allegedly involved in any way. And so the weird
558
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guy will get to I'll talk about him at the end.
559
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After Amy was arrested, this is when her past came
560
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to light, especially the accidental death of her brother, Seth.
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Braintree police started looking at seth nineteen eighty six death
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a little differently. But the problem was, remember all the
563
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records of Seth's shooting had disappeared. So Braintree's twenty ten
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police chief, his name was Chief Paul Fraser. He had
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his own theory on what happened with the brother situation.
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He believed that the police chief back in nineteen eighty
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00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.960
six was in cahoots with Amy's mom to cover up
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00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.519
the murder. He even said, like maybe cover ups the
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wrong way. Maybe it was more of like the police
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00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.440
chief at the time was looking the other way. Whatever.
571
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But according to the police chief Frasier, Amy's mom was
572
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like a big political supporter of the other police chief
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at the time of the incident. And when Amy first
574
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:19.840
got arrested when she was a kid, it was said
575
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that Judy came into the police department and said, I
576
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.079
need to speak to the police chief. We're good friends.
577
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I needed to speak to him. But she called him
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by his first name, and all the police at the
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00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.119
station were like, Uh, that's kind of weird, like, why
580
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.119
are you on a first name basis with this guy?
581
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:39.199
But apparently they spoke whatever, and the police officer that
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00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.639
was questioning Amy was told that it was an accident
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and to let her go. That's allegedly like what happened.
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According to Amy's mom, Judy, you know, she denied these allegations,
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saying like that was completely ridiculous, that never happened, even
586
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.239
though there are people who said it did. But then
587
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four days after Amy's attack, police were able to find
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the missing files related to Seth's death. Yeah, magically they appeared.
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They actually just went looking for them, seems like, but whatever.
590
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After further review, the district attorney was like, yeah, this
591
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.400
Amy chick, she should have been charged. Let me tell
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00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:16.280
you why because there's more. Okay, let me tell you who.
593
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:20.000
Let me tell you. So, remember how she accidentally quote
594
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.400
unquote shot her brother, then she fled the house. Yeah,
595
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.719
they kind of like breeze past that. I was like, what, Well,
596
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.000
it turns out there was more to the story. So
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after shooting her brother Seth, Amy took off, leaving through
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the home her house like the back door, taking the
599
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shotgun with her. She ended up running through like some
600
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.760
wooded area and she ended up in an alley that
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00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.079
came to like a dead end to like an auto
602
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.719
dealership place. So, according to the employees working there, Amy
603
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came into the shop holding the gun, pointing it at them,
604
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demanding that they give her keys to a car. The
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men they took a chance and they ran. We don't
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know how after that, but she ends up outside of
607
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:06.320
the dealership. So a police officer was in the area
608
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.360
actually looking for Amy, you know, when he came across
609
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.599
her outside. So according to police notes, you know, they
610
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.239
tell Amy to drop the weapon. They're demanding they're calling
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to her drop the weapon because she's still holding it
612
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:21.960
and she's kind of like she's got a firm grip
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on it. And they said in the notes that she
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was like pointing it towards them. So they keep telling
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her to drop the weapon. She's not dropping it, and
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this goes on for like a bit of time. Eventually,
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a police officer like sneaks up behind her, points a
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gun at her and tells her, like, you know, drop
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the weapon, and then she did. She finally does, She
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lets go, She puts her hands up and then she
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was arrested. So with that information, the new police chief
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was like, yeah, she definitely should have been charged. Pointing
623
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a loaded gun at anybody. Anybody, let alone a police
624
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:03.199
officer is grounds for a felony charge. That alone. So
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it was like, what the the you know, what was
626
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that about? So the Massachusetts governor ordered the state police
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to review the investigation to Seth's death, and apparently in
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this new inquest, a shocking new detail was found. So
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the day of seth death, the home wasn't treated like
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a crime scene. So unfortunately, they didn't have any proof
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of evidence. They had like a couple of photos and
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that was it. But in one of those photos, uh,
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there was a picture of Amy's room. So they're looking
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at this photo. Okay, it's an enlarged crime scene photo
635
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.400
of Amy's room, and in it showed a news article
636
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on the floor of her bedroom. And the news article
637
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was like a crime similar to hers in the photo.
638
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.400
Well yeah, hold on, hold on, let me get this
639
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.880
eyelash on. The article was about an actor named Patrick
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Duffy ring a bell. No me neither. I was like,
641
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.480
who's that? Well, he was on the show Dallas. Now
642
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:07.119
his parents were killed with a twelve gage shotgun, and
643
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then the people who did it they fled after killing
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00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:12.880
the parents. They fled and they held up a car
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dealership where they stole a truck, and they fled. Investigators
646
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believed that that article in the crime scene photo of
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her bedroom may be proof of like inspiration, because they
648
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.639
kind of you know, so they saw that and they
649
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.679
were like, that's kind of interesting, huh. On top of that,
650
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:35.599
in the police report, it said that they found a
651
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box of twenty five rounds on Amy's bed. One was
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fired in her room, a second round was used to
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00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.320
kill Seth. Then there was a third round that was
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found after Amy's arrest in her jacket pocket, and then
655
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:55.440
police found a fourth round in the chamber ready to fire. So,
656
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according to police, at some point after shooting Seth, Amy
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00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.719
must have racked the slide. I think that racked the slide,
658
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Is that how I'm saying about. She must have done
659
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.079
that and then loaded a fresh round before being arrested,
660
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.800
which I'm sure we can all agree here is odd behavior.
661
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If this was all just an accident, right well, just
662
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.960
three days after they're shooting at Uah. Amy was charged
663
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.519
with one count of capital murder and three counts of
664
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attempted murder. So she's sitting in jail right. A few
665
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.599
months later, in June of twenty ten, Amy was indicted
666
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for the nineteen eighty six killing of her brother. Uh oh.
667
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And this is really when like all of the information
668
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.039
started to come out, like about the pipe bomb belief,
669
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:46.679
you know, situation, the IHOP incident, her being shady when
670
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.960
she was trying to get tenure. So all this is
671
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.159
coming out, and I guess Amy is just having a
672
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:56.639
hard time because two days later, you know, when she
673
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.960
finds out she's being indicted for the killing of her brother,
674
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.360
Amy attempts to end her life in jail. She wasn't successful,
675
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.519
but she tried. You know. Amy told her friends that
676
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.280
she didn't want to spend the rest of her life
677
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:14.199
in a tiny box. Oh god, I freaking roll right.
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00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.039
I was just like, shut up, maybe you shouldn't have
679
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.519
killed any money, dumb bitch. What is stupid comment? I
680
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.440
hate stupid comments like don't know, shut up, Okay, thank you,
681
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.000
there's more just you wait. Once Amy was in jail,
682
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.079
her court appointed lawyer went, you know, to go visit her.
683
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.800
Her lawyer literally said, quote, something is wrong with this lady.
684
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.039
End quote. I was like, yeah, I think something is
685
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.360
wrong that is valid and correct. I think Amy entered
686
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.199
a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity. The
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00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.000
defense hired a ton of different psychiatrists, you know, to
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00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.880
evaluate her, but they could not conclude that she had
689
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.039
like a certain mental illness. A few months later, in
690
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.079
November of twenty ten, to of the survivors from the
691
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:03.599
university shooting me filed lawsuits against Amy and James, and
692
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:07.000
then in January of twenty eleven, two of the victim's
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00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:11.960
families filed wrongful death suits against Amy, James, and the university.
694
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I know, I was like James two, but I couldn't
695
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.920
figure out how he was like involved. I wanted more information,
696
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.719
but like her husband is just something ain't right there,
697
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:26.000
But whatever, okay. Amy's lawyer urged her to plead guilty
698
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:31.519
in exchange for the prosecution not to seek the death penalty. Technically,
699
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.440
Amy wanted the death penalty, and she said that outright,
700
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.280
but her lawyer told her, like, look, even if you
701
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:42.880
get the death sentence, it takes forever for them actually
702
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.199
to kill you, so they'll do that. So in September
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00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.119
of twenty twelve, Amy changed her plea to guilty. There
704
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.920
was still a short trial, you know, per Alabama law,
705
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.039
in which the jury heard like a shortened version of
706
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:02.480
the evidence. So Amy was taken to court in her
707
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:06.599
red jail uniform. She's looking like Lord far aquad. Okay,
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00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.000
she's got that haircut, all right, She's yep. She had
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00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.320
her feet shackled. She sat between her two defense attorneys,
710
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.119
and when the trial began, Amy would just shake her
711
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.079
her head anytime someone said that her killing spree was intentional,
712
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:25.039
and that's like upset the district attorney. The district attorney
713
00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:27.199
was like, it doesn't make sense for Amy to be
714
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.679
shaking her head in denial like that. You can't just
715
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.639
take a loaded gun, shoot it like a person's head
716
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.719
and then say you didn't mean to do it. Makes
717
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.679
no sense. During the trial, an investigator testified that police
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00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.280
believed Amy opened fire during that faculty meeting because she
719
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.079
was angry over being to nine tenure. The ones that
720
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.880
were targeted, the ones that she murdered, were the ones
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00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.920
who voted against her receiving tenure. After the short hearing,
722
00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:00.000
the jury deliberated for twenty minutes before finding Amy guilt.
723
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:03.679
Of course, Amy was sentenced to life in prison without
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00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.480
the possibility of parole, and though like Amy did not
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00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.559
speak in court, her lawyer said that she often expressed
726
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.000
great remorse for what she did, saying she was quote
727
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:19.639
horrified by the UAH incident end quote which pissed me
728
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.000
off because she never referred to it as like a
729
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.920
like what she did. She kept saying it was a
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00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.880
UAH incident. She kept calling an incident like bitch, you
731
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:37.159
murdered people. Wait, anyways, she was horrified by the UAH incident.
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00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.920
And also you know, she told people that she had
733
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.320
no memory of it. None. It's crazy. In February of
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twenty thirteen, Amy filed an appeal. The thing is Amy
735
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.559
didn't realize that with a guilty please, she had also
736
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.760
waived her right to an appeal. So then, because she's
737
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.920
exhausting and she never gives up. In her appeal, she
738
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.960
claimed that she had not been told of the rights
739
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she'd be waving with her guilty plea. It went back
740
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.760
and forth for quite some time, but the court essentially
741
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.760
rejected it. She's still trying to this day, really, and
742
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.960
so with this in mind, Amy decided to try and
743
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:20.239
clear her name for something else. Her brother's death. She
744
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.000
told the public defender that she wanted to be tried
745
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.840
for her brother's death because she wanted the truth to
746
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.719
come out and she wanted for her and her family
747
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.400
to finally get closure. It looks like it was going
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to happen, but the courts decided not to go through
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with it, saying that she's already serving like a life sentence.
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You know, she's already served, like they just didn't see
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the point in doing it. So to this day, she
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is still serving her sentence at the Julia Tuttweiler Prison.
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Did I say that right? Let me know what Probab didn't.
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It's a prison for women, and it's in with Tumka Alabama.
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She's there. She's still trying to appeal. I write in
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one article as the reason whatever and as a girl, stop,
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it's not gonna happen for you. Okay, stop, you murdered people. Stop,
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get a new haircut. And that's where she sits. But
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get this, because my god, talk about another tragic twist.
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My brain kind of low key was like what. So
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remember Amy and her husband, Sketchy James, had four kids,
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three girls and a boy. So Amy's youngest son was
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literally born on her brother's birthday. Remember, it was still
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all an accident at this point, and so you know what.
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She named her son, Seth after her brother. In April
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twenty twenty one, Amy's in prison, her son and a
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few friends were hanging out in a parking lot in
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a friend's car. So one of the kids had a gun. Yep,
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one of the kids. They are like seventeen or eighteen
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years old, these kids. One of the kids has a
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gun and was like, look, oh, you know, it's a
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show it off. Well, the gun accidentally went off and
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Amy's son, Seth, was killed instantly. I was like, the
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Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away? Right, according to police, like,
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her son's death had nothing to do with her mom's
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crimes at all, point blank period, But my god, what
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are the odds of that? Right? Tragic? The kid who
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accidentally shot the gun, I believe it is still awaiting
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his trial. I couldn't find any updates on that. But yeah,
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So yeah, that's the story about Amy Bishop and what
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a crazy ass bitch she is. I have some ending
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thoughts because I didn't know how to end this. There
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was so much more I want to say. So her
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parents have like remained quiet. Obviously, that's that's Faire's valid.
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And they only speak highly of Amy even after the shooting,
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going on to say that Amy is should I find
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the direct quote? Hold on, let me find the direct quote.
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Shut up, everything's a mess. Over a year after the
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shooting spree, Judy, specifically, her mom said to the media
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that Amy Amy is a brilliant, brilliant girl, and she
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just snapped and that's literally all they said about their daughter.
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I love that I busted this out for that one thing.
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Can you tell by that one comment that maybe, like
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you know, they they have a hard time accepting truth
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the family. It seems in my personal opinion, I could
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be completely wrong, but whatever her husband, James, I was
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trying to figure out what the hell was up with him,
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because I believe personally, in my opinion, he was involved
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in some way. He truly seemed like her main hype man, like, uh,
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if Amy was mad at someone, he was like, yeah, yeah,
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that guy sucks. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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Like that person who you could be completely wrong, but
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that hype person is like, yeah, you're right, Yeah, that
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was her husband. And I think we can all because
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can say, like it was odd that they went to
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a shooting range together literally the week before, and it
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was like why now, like what did he know? He
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was allegedly not involved in any way, shape or form
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or had no idea that his wife was going to
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do this, but it was just like, I had so
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many more questions with the guy. Amy literally said that, like,
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her husband's too smart to work, so he didn't And
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I think that kind of says a lot too. I
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don't know what I'm getting at. Exhausting story, Okay, I
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think we can all agree here that Amy should have
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been arrested for her brother's death. Luckily that police chief
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the original one and all that they're all out of there,
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uh and have passed on. I believe I think we
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can all agree that she should have been arrested for
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her brother's death period right now. Listen to this. Now,
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this was rumors, so I didn't know where to put it.
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There were rumors going around at the morning of her
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brother's death, Amy and her father got into a heated spot.
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There were beliefs that Amy thought it was her father
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coming home and not her brother slash mother. The newspaper
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article that was found on her bedroom floor made me think, like, oh,
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she was going to kill her parents or maybe just
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her father and maybe not her brother. And literally those
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are all just rumors, but I wanted to kind of
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believe that because the only information you would hear from
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Amy's mom, Judy, was that, like, oh, Amy's got a temper,
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like just like her dad, Amy and her dad would
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bump heads. But it was nothing like it was nothing.
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Oh no, no, no, no, no no. But there was
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definitely something. There was something, ma'am. There was something. Amy
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has never given like a clear answer as to why
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she did anything, any of this down to the IHOP situation,
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and she doesn't remember anything. The one thing she has
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said to the media, she's complained that since being in prison,
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she feels like her IQ is dropping due to everyone's
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poor vocabulary. And that is the story of Amy Bishop.
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So many victims, so many opportunities for her to get
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arrested and potentially like not lead to this situation. But unfortunately,
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I don't know what the fuck was going on behind
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those scenes. I don't know if she was sucking dead,
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I don't know, if people were getting paid off. I
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don't know. But isn't it weird that she kept getting
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off weird huh. Probably won't get any answers there, and
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I think all we can do is hope that the
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justice system does better next time. Right, Well, you guys,
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thank you so much for hanging out with me today.
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I'm laughing because I don't know. Thank you. Let me
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know who you want me to talk about next time?
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And what do you think of this? Look, I'm feeling
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like a little like a little like a little alien
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alien alien space girl, space girl from outer space. Yeah, yeah, okay,
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Hi guys, I want to pop in here again to
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let you know I will have a new murder Mystery
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and makeup coming in May. I know, don't worry, don't worry. Okay,
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during the month of April, I'm still gonna have murder
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Mystery and makeup videos coming on every other Monday, as
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I've been doing. In April, one of the videos will
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be a murder mystery and makeup like compilation, three hour
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type of type of video. Look, I've seen so many
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comments throughout the years where people have told me that
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they fall asleep to my voice and my videos. So
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with that in mind, I thought I would create compilation
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videos for you guys, The Sleepers the I just need
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something playing in the background while I clean viewers. You
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know what I'm saying. And honestly, the last few months,
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like Loki, I've already been doing this and just not
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saying anything because I'm weird. But I've already uploaded a
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couple of compilation like murder Mystery makeup videos truly with
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the sleepers in mind. Yeah, I was thinking about you.
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I mean, I know, for myself personally, I fall asleep
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to sixty minute rerun videos on YouTube, So I understand,
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I understand I am. Therefore, I want to make something
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for you. Then I will be releasing a murder Mystery
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audio exclusive that's never been uploaded here on YouTube. Oh yeah,
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I do audio exclusive like true crime cases over on
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my Murder Mystery Makeup podcast. So I thought during my
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time off, we could take one of those and like
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turn it into a YouTube video for you. Yeah. Needless
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to say, videos will still be coming. But if you're
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confused as to why I'm uploading on compilation or an
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audio exclusive video, it's because you girl needs to go
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outside and get something some light. Okay, I need to
888
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go outside and get some air, and that's what I'll
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be doing. In the month of April. If you watch
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Dark History, nothing is changing there. I just wanted to
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let you guys know, give you a heads up. Thank
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you for understanding, because I know you understand. I appreciate
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you guys so much for watching. I hope you make
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very good choices and I will be seeing you very soon. Goodbye.