Tucker & Rogan, Candace Converts, Catholic Answers AI Priest

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Thank you, we'll be right back.
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oh no, oh no, oh, this woman I was at first trying to be like what's gonna happen to this car?
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Is she gonna like do something?
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why we let these ladies drive.
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They can't even drive.
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What are we doing?
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Um?
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So, all right, no, rob, tonight.
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Well, today, I don't even know, I don't even know what day it is.
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I got, uh, I work monday day, monday night, tuesday night, right, and today's what wednesday?
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I gotta work tonight and tomorrow night, and then I gotta work saturday day.
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I'm like I think I slept.
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I.
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I got home at like 7 am.
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I slept from 9 to 11, woke up, couldn't go back to bed until like 1, and then slept 1 to 3.
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So I'm on like four hours of sleep after a night shift last night.
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Bro, that's absolutely brutal.
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You probably are going to vote for Biden because you want more days off.
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It's such a catch-22 because working nights I make more money but my life is a living hell when I'm doing it.
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So they have the Five Borough Bike Tour coming up and they have this parade coming up, so they have the Five Borough Bike Tour.
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We have to go through the entire tour and fix any anywhere that somebody could like trip or, you know, get hurt on the road.
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So that's what we do.
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We do patchwork in the city.
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So anything that's Con Ed related or an accurate related, that there's like a pothole or anything like that, we just literally run through the entire bike tour and we fix everything.
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It's taken, it's going to take all week to do it.
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so do you think you could ever do like in a hypothetical, a nine to five, like white color desk job, or do you think you'd go insane dude?
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you want to know what's crazy that that video is going around um, where everybody's talking about this guy does his tiktok video where he wakes up like 7 am, he has his his breakfast in the morning, then he goes to the office and he sits there and he gets his 11 o'clock lunch, then he comes back.
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I would die if that was my life.
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I'd rather be wheelbarrowing sludge uphill at awkward hours like I am, than doing that.
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I don't know how people do that.
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I don't know.
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I don't think it's natural just to be in cubicles.
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I think that's wrong.
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It just feels weird.
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You arrange it so the potholes come back as soon as the races start.
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It's funny because Con Ed and Nacrid are notorious for paving something and then reopening it.
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They'll make us go in and do the work and then they'll go and reopen the job we just did.
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It's like job security or something.
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But the funny thing is about working nights is that I'm able to do a normal hour show, not at 8 pm at night, but Rob's not able to, rob's at work.
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So we were supposed we were supposed to do this yesterday and I worked monday day, monday night.
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And then yesterday I got home and I was like there's no way, like there's just no freaking way.
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So I texted like nick, is there any way you can do this tomorrow?
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You're like, yeah, no problem, I was in bad shape yesterday, I think.
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I, I, I, I.
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I got home, I couldn't fall asleep.
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I fell asleep at like one in the afternoon and then woke up at seven at night, had to get out of grace to get ready and then rush into work.
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Dude, golly man.
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Yeah, I thought my week was rough with finals.
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So wait, are you?
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What are you doing online school?
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Yeah, I've been finishing up my last essentially last year's a bachelor, first year of masters, so I'm just doing all these finals for the end of the year, and it's just these.
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It's not that like finals are hard per se, but I was just telling my dad earlier you'll get a question where it's like all right, here are four theological answers that you have to figure out which one is right on and it'll give you like a paragraph.
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But then the answer between like a true and a false question is literally going to come down to like one letter or one word.
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And so you're looking through like page after page after page, trying to read everything correctly so you don't fail a test off of one word or something, and so it's important, but it's just, oh man.
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And then you write these you know 20 paper essays and you got to go through all of the formatting Like okay, make sure it's an inch indented, make sure you have page numbers on all of these.
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You're making my brain hurt right now.
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Like all right.
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So I always tell everybody I'm a high school dropout, like I did really well in school.
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When it came to what I did in school, like you know, I was on like honor roll until like 10th grade.
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I just didn't do homework.
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Like homework, I just like I would go, like no, I'm not doing it.
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So I wound up like my grades started declining in like 10th grade because I could no longer like sweet talk my teachers.
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It's funny, up until 10th grade all my teachers knew I was smart and I was learning the lessons and I just wouldn't do homework.
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So they would all give me good grades anyway.
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But like once I hit 10th grade they stopped doing that.
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But just hearing all this detail and having to study over that, like it's just I'm so glad I didn't go to college.
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Man, I would have never made it.
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I don't even know.
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It's good, that's like okay, it forces you to learn, but it's just rough.
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I was actually talking about this with my dad not too long ago, though.
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Like I think, because particularly the public school education system is run by women, it's just horrible for young dudes, because if you're forcing all these young guys to just chill in chairs for eight and a half hours a day, they're gonna go crazy, like, go out.
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Like I think we should force boys especially to do way more physical education or practical hands-on education than they do.
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it's just, it's crazy yeah, I think that some people are just not cut out for certain job, like you were saying.
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Like, like, how you know, would I be able to do a nine to five?
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Like I don't think I could do what rob does, rob's um a uh, what the heck?
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Uh, an accountant, basically, you know.
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So, like I don't think I could do that, I, I just I would go, I would go crazy, like I.
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There's two times of the year where my job is amazing.
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It's the first day of the year where you wear a sweatshirt, like after the summer's, like the first day where it's like 60 degrees, 55 degrees, and you can throw a sweatshirt on and you're outside and you smell the fall coming in the air.
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It is such a great time to be outside, like if I was cooped up during that time, it'd be horrible.
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Then the other time is the first days it starts to get warm, where you start peeling those layers off and you're outside and you smell the warm air coming in.
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Now, even those days where it's negative 20 in the winter, freezing, and 90 in the summer, or, you know, a heat wave in the summer, I'd still rather be outside.
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The only days where it's completely miserable is when it's raining, yeah, I don't.
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When it's raining out, you're just like.
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I would rather be anywhere, but here right now, man, it's just.
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Those are the only days that it's really awful to be outside, but the rest of the time I'd rather be in the outdoors plus, if, like you're working in new york city in the rain, like that's rough, like I'd rather work on like a ranch any day or be like fell in trees in the in the rain, then it's much muddier on that ranch though.
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I'll tell you that.
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But yeah, like the problem is, we're jumping in and out of the truck every few minutes it's.
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It is rough working in the rain, but getting attacked with dudes, with shovels and knives and stuff I'll be honest, like what you're describing on a ranch is like what you're so it's almost like you're supposed to do that right, like like we, like god made us to do stuff like that, like what I'm doing, both what we're talking about with the nine to five and with my job.
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Those are both kind of unnatural jobs to be in.
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It's a very since the industrial revolution kind of stuff.
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You know so, before that you would have never had the husband leaving the home for 10, 12 hours a day and then coming home and barely seeing his family.
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It's.
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It's really capitalism, isn't all it's cracked up to.
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I mean, there's just no other way around it.
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It's better than any other system that's in place.
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It's just far from perfect.
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Yeah, it's very far from perfect.
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That's why everybody in the chat go and give Anthony some love over at Locals.
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Make sure you donate over there to help him get away from New York City.
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Man, that is my dream.
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Like, honestly, the dream would be to be able to do this in person.
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You know, like like in-person interviews are so much better than I mean.
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This is awesome that we get to do this.
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You're in Texas and I'm in New York.
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We get to have a conversation but it would just be so much, so much better if you could do them in person and have people come into the studio and say they're here and stuff.
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It would be so much better.
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All right, so we got a bunch of stories we can get to today.
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So we have to talk about Father Justin from Catholic Answers, the AI chat, priest Gross.
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I rolled my eyes so hard when that came out.
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I was like this is like if you can have an AI priest, you can have an AI girlfriend.
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I don't know Like.
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To me it's just the realm of possibilities at this point.
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Well, it's kind of it is getting there, though, so wait, I want to find the actual article and it's like Catholic Answers that created it right.
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Catholic Answers.
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It's funny because catholic answers managed to get everybody, on the right and the left, to unite in their hatred.
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Oh, like when you have, when you have a girlfriend or a wife or something and you're fighting.
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If you find a common enemy, nothing unites a couple, like when you have a common enemy.
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You know, if you both dislike another couple, you guys come together like they're so annoying.
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So everybody's, everybody's hatred for this.
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Ai, father justin is really pretty funny um, they should have named it father chad.
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That would have just been more memesh, I think.
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Oh my gosh.
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So trent just messaged me.
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Uh, all right, hang on, let me see.
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Okay.
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So trent literally just messaged me.
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Let's see that we're talking about this.
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It's probably like don't, don't bash my ai.
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Well, he said.
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He said just a heads up.
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If you talk about the ai catholic answers bottom today's stream, here's what I posted in an article from our uh coo.
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To be clear, I was against this the moment I found out about it and wasn't involved in its creation.
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So, okay.
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So um, trent tweeted today.
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I found out about father justin when the program launched.
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In today's staff meeting, I expect, I expressed strong objections to using a priest as the ai's avatar.
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This interview is a good explainer from our coo, who also says they will probably change the character.
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Yeah, like, the biggest problem is that they're making it a priest.
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Right, because I'll I'll tell you right now.
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What I saw today was um, which I I kind of seemed weird to me.
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So we had had Trent Trent on last week and he was talking to us.
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He's, like you know, I've never been good at like the social media thing.
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Like, we just got a couple of Gen Z kids in the car and make shorts for us and this seems very much like one of those Gen Z kids kind of came in.
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I'm like, hey, I got an idea, let's do this, you know.
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So.
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Um, somebody, uh deal, let's do this, you know.
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So somebody asked Father Justin about confession.
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They said hi, I am Father Justin, let's see.
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It says hi, I'm Father Justin, I'm here to answer any questions you may have about our Catholic faith.
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You can speak with me, blah, blah, blah.
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So then the person said bless me, father, for I have sinned.
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That has been three weeks since my last confession.
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Father Justin says may the lord be in your heart and help you to confess your sins with true sorrow.
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Remember, as it says in first john 1 9 if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
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Now my child, tell me your sins like this is nuts.
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No, no, no.
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This is so bad, this is really bad.
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So I understand Trent is not involved in this and he had objections to this.
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I want to make sure that is clear.
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But Trent isn't Catholic Answers.
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Trent works for Catholic Answers.
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So I mean a lot of people associate him as if he's like the CEO of Catholic Answers or something.
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He's not.
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Associate him as if he's like the, the ceo of catholic answers or something he's not um.
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So then the person says I've had anger in my heart about the development of ai chatbots in appropriate and inappropriate places.
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This is good, father justin, I understand your frustration.
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My child remember this is this is really bad, like even that it's addressing it as my child.
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I mean, we're talking about a machine here.
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Exactly as it says in Ephesians four, 26, 27 in your anger, do not sin.
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Do not let the sun go down while you're still angry, do not give the devil a foot, a foothold.
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It's important to express our concerns and disagreements in a respectful and loving manner.
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Pray for the wisdom and patience to handle such situations.
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Is there anything else you'd like to confess so like this?
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This is like an epic confession.
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If this was a real person, that's the thing it's giving appropriate advice for, okay, so, uh, I I'm pretty sure I didn't read the article, but I'm pretty sure eric sammons wrote an article talking about this.
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Could be.
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This is this is one step further away from the incarnational faith.
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Essentially like there's a reason that you can't receive absolution through the phone, exactly right.
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There's a reason you can't do a face-to-face screen timing receive absolution.
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There's something incarnational about our faith where you actually need the priest to be in front of you putting his hands over you as he says the words of absolution.
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So this is, this is all very, very dangerous, I would say this is.
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Wow.
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I'm actually really curious.
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Now, I've not tested it myself, but I'm curious if you actually get into oh, what's up, bunini?
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I'd be interested to see if, when you get into questions regarding the Sixth and Ninth Commandments around purity, if they give some of the modern horrible theological takes where they're just like well, if you're addicted to pornography or impure actions, it might come down to a conscience thing where it's not actually objectively sinful if you're addicted to it, etc.
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Etc.
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Which like does not fly at all in moral theology.
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So now I'm actually this would be interesting to make an episode actually where we just fiddle around with this thing and say what does it say?
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it's just, it's just a strange thing.
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Um, so so they're going to change the avatar and take it away from him.
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Okay, so do you think there's a problem if it's just a theology chatbot without saying, father Justin?
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Because, look, I've gone on chat GPT and said write me a homily on this topic, and it gives you a pretty good, like Catholic-ly sound, theological homily on this topic.
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And it gives you a pretty good, like catholicly sound theological homily.
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Right, it better than a lot of the priests will write like I could.
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I can see a time where priests no longer have to write their own homilies because they just throw in chat gpt like hey, this is, these are the readings.
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Give me a homily on it, and they probably would be better than a lot of the feel good, mushy homilies you hear at mass 100.
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I think what makes this an issue is, yeah, like one, the incarnational reality is a real factor.
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You can't just.
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I mean, the priest represents christ, not a machine, right, it's a human being.
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Christ didn't become a machine, he became a human, he became our nature, which is the most, in my opinion.
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I think, outside of the trinity, the incarnation is the most astounding mystery of all time, because how do you have this infinite being become a finite man?
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It's just, it's beautiful.
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So that's yeah.
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When you make that into a machine, it's an issue.
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But then too, I would say again, behind every machine is a programmer to some degree, right, whether it's another machine or another human, human.
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And so I honestly feel like, if you were just to have any type of theological machine, you have to make sure that the programmer is faithful.
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But the thing is like I've seen, for instance, dr Peter Kwasniewski.
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He's asked a couple of questions regarding, like the liturgy, liturgical questions, and you can see it's very much so like a biased answer that the machine from Catholic Answers will give.
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And so that's the thing where it's like, okay, well, if you are gonna make a machine like this, first off make it something like, you know, catholic theology, gpt or something, or catholic apologetics or something catholic answers.
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Gpt could have worked and then like, make sure it gives lots of answers.
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Be like this is what this school of thought yeah, school of thought believes, etc.
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Be a little bit agnostic about issues that can be agnostic about and definitive about stuff that you can be definitive about.
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That's such a good point, right?
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Because you saw this happen with even the Google image generator, right?
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So it's like OK, show me a family from, show me a Scandinavian family from the 80s.
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You know, it would show a black family, right.
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Avian family from the 18th century would show a black family, right?
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So that's essentially what the catholic answers chat bot is.
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The chat priest bot is doing.
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When you ask questions about the liturgy is giving you very uh, slanted, uh modernist-esque I don't want to say modernist like not heretical, but you know very in line with very in line with line with the Vatican, to the spirit of Vatican tools.
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Right, when you could make a trad chat bot and it would just eviscerate all of all of those same arguments, right.
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Exactly that's where it's like.
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It's gotta be like.
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You gotta be at least somewhat like loose with what you're going to do, because the thing is like let's go in there and ask the question like, ok, is the death penalty object like objectively immoral?
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I'd be curious to see what it says, what does.
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Maybe I'll ask it first what the heck does it mean?
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And then, you know, get into that.
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Oh man, See, if Rob was here today, maybe that would be a good local segment.
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I feel like we should wait for him on that.
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There's some things that I like.
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Having Rob Just his dry sense of humor would be pretty funny.
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Let him do all the searching and stuff.
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So maybe we'll do that for the next show when Rob's here.
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Maybe we'll just go and explore the GPT version of Father oh brother.
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Yeah, Father Justin.
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Maybe we'll just go and explore the GPT version of the father oh brother.
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Yeah, Father Justin.
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So yeah, it's just watching everybody get angry about this together, Because I was watching everybody, from Mike Lewis to Dr Kwasniewski to everybody, just united in their hatred for this Father, for this father Justin chat bot.
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It's pretty funny.
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That's wild.
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Well, I mean it makes sense, though, cause it's like I don't know again, cause you know you're hardworking man outside but I've seen online the last like two weeks all the major companies are putting AI in some form, like Instagram and Facebook.
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Have AI now.
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Even something like Adobe right, have ai now even something like adobe right, like where you pull up pdfs and stuff now has ai.
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So everything is going to have ai attached now to it well, even in stream yard.
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So we're doing this.
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After we get off stream yard, um, it has uh title generators, like ai title generators.
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It'll tell us, it'll write our descriptions for our videos.
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It'll give suggestions for shorts, and they're not always great, the short suggestions like once in a while it'll get a good one for you, but they're not great.
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But everything is really AI based.
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It's and Twitter is coming out with uh or X is coming out with X TV, which is going to supposedly going to be like the competitor to YouTube, where they're going to have it as an app and sold on your smart TV and I mean it could work out good for us.
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But all of that is going to be AI, algorithm generated and stuff like that.
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Like you're constantly seeing how your Twitter feed is changing.
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Every once in a while it'll get glitchy and you know they're updating the algorithm and then all of a sudden, you'll get no interaction on there and then all of a sudden, it all comes flooding back.
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Everything is going to be just an algorithm soon enough, and we've talked about it before, but a lot of people think the future, the danger in the future, is that it's going to be like the terminator 2 scenario where the machines coming, you know, take over.
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It's not going to be it.
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It's going to be these algorithms programming humans just through manipulation and making humans do things, and think that so much of it is just narrative programming.
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I mean, if you look back, even this conversation everybody's having about, about the the I think Jeremy Boring started it talking about if you think dropping the bombs on Nagasaki was wrong and like, all of it is about narrative programming, right.
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So if you go into it listening to the neocon narrative, it's like, well, if we didn't do it, if we didn't drop these bombs, then more people would have died in the fire, bombing and that and just the manipulation and how you hear the story put forward, instead of hearing it from the catholic perspective, where it's like the ends doesn't justify the means.
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So much of what we believe is just narrative-based propaganda, and if these algorithms are programming our propaganda, you will be manipulated by it.
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I don't care how much you think you're paying attention programmers who are going to be manipulating a lot of people to their own advice.
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It's like, for instance, you've already seen with the last, really particularly since 2016,.
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Post-election, all the way up till now, you've seen this whole crusade against quote disinformation and fake news.
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The thing is, though, through AI, you'll be able to fully control the narrative, because when you look at something like ChatGBT, it doesn't have MSNBC on it, it doesn't have, you know, fox News on it.
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It just seems like this random computer program.
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You're like, oh, why not Just check it out, et cetera, and you put it in there, and then you find it has lots of biased answers.
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It also, I think, destroys your critical thinking skills, especially over time, because if you're not actively just asking questions or reading books or doing your own research, you're going to be able just to be manipulated by all these things.
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I guess one thing I'll say on the twitter spectrum is funny um one.
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Yes, we do need a major competitor to youtube 1000 percent but I just think name wise xtv bites out a little scandalous for us catholic youtubers like'm like.
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You know I'm on XTV, but it's not what you think.
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Well, the funny thing is that so much of X is infiltrated with X-rated content too, so maybe it is appropriate.
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It's like the stuff that gets cancelled on YouTube, but then the stuff that's allowed on YouTube is wild, just absolutely wild so much.
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Look, if you're watching even the things that we skirt around doing these conversations, like there's so many things we have to skirt around me anybody that watches an anthony stein video, right, you just see he has to put all these code words in to get a story across.
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We kind of don't think like that.
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But I bet if we did do what he does are like we'd pick up in the algorithm better.
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There's certain code words that the algorithm just picks up on.
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If you mention any other plot, like we're talking about X and Twitter, like that will knock us down in the algorithm.
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Like YouTube doesn't want you promoting other platforms, so as soon as you mention other platforms it will take away your promotion in the algorithm.
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It's pretty crazy, and X does that too.
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Okay.
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So people will wonder why I'll just take a screenshot of our thumbnail and post that instead of the link to the video on the other platform.
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Is because they will downgrade.
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You won't see it.
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If you post an actual link, I'll see it gets three likes.
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If I post a picture of it and just say, hey, we won't see it.
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If you post an actual link, I'll see it gets three likes.
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If I post a picture of it and just say, hey, we're going on an eight o'clock, it'll get 50, 60 and people will share it and stuff.
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It's just they don't want you cross pollinating, which is stupid, because one platform helps the other one grow, it's.
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It's not like I'm trying to take my content off of here and put it there.
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I kind of want them to feed each other and help each other grow.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Man.
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All right, we got a couple other things we're going to do.
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One is the Candace Owens conversion.
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Hang on, let me just say Congratulations, candace Owens, about time.
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Yeah, candace Owens About time.
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Yeah, so Candace Owens announced her conversion and let me just see, because somebody sent me.
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Oh, you know what?
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I think Joshua Charles sent me something.
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Let's see.
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Okay, so David Ick, who's David Ick?
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Do you know him?
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No, no clue.
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Groundbreaking author and speaker New book the Dream.
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He's got almost a million subscribers, so he wrote.
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Candice announced, as she said recently, I made the decision to go home.
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There was, of course, so much more that went into this discussion that I plan to share in the future, but for now, praise be to god for his gentle but relentless guiding of my heart toward the truth.
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So do not fear, for I am with you.
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Uh, so she announces she's coming into the catholic church.
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Um, right before she does this, michael matt announces she's speaking at the Catholic Identity Conference.
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Yeah, that's right, I am going to the Catholic Identity Conference, not as a speaker, I'm just going.
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I'm excited to meet, like Gavin Ashenden, mark Lambert, a few other people that I wanted to meet while I was there.
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I know Catherine from Catholic Unscripted is going to be there too, but yeah, there's a list of people that I wanted to meet while I was there.
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I know Catherine from Catholic on script is going to be there too, but yeah, there was a.
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There's a list of people that are going there.
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I'm like, all right, this, this will be a good year to go.
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Like I've never gone before, I figured, let me, let me go check it out those, those conferences are pretty good to meet people and you know, just, network and stuff, yeah, network and things like that.
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So I'm going to go this year.
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So she announced that she's going and I already had the ticket.
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So when she announced she was like, oh, this is pretty cool, you know.
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So david ick writes um.
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Candace Owens converts to Roman Catholicism, as has Eva.
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What's her last name?
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Vlardingerbrock.
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I don't know.
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She's the young blonde girl I forgot I don't know how to say her last name Jordan Peterson's wife, while Russell Brand does the rosary.
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Wtf is happening to the mainstream?
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What is MAM?
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Mainstream American media?
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Yeah, mam, he wrote.
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What is happening to the MAM?
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They talk about freedom of speech and convert to a church with a long, long history of mass murder for the crime of having different opinion.
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Extraordinary, something's going on and it's not good.
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Hurl all the abuse you like, it matters, not to me.
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It needs saying when blatant cognitive dissonance is so rampant.
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The glories of Twitter.
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People have such misconceptions about Catholicism.
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So Josh wrote in response.
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As I have warned for years, there is a growing Gnostic right that has been overtaken by occultism, often with the encouragement of people like David Icke I don't know who he is.
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This Gnosticism is simply fully grown Protestantism, the Catholic faith, is the greatest enemy of this Gnostic right.
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There's something about the way modern Protestantism is presented that is just not capable of handling the atheism in general and just what is happening in our society Like it's just.
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I don't think anyone realizes that comes from that Protestant mindset.
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How cringe it seems Like.
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I've watched a couple of even debates with Andrew Wilson talking to people and you'll see there'll be a couple of born-again Christians in in the, in the conversation.
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They'll be like, well, you just need to accept Jesus as your person and and they think that it's going to hit.
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So they all try to do this altar call every chance they get, and they don't realize how many people just go.
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Oh my gosh, shut up, man, you just you're so annoying.
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It's like every time they get a chance to have a conversation it's like watching a Kirk Cameron Left Behind series.
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Yeah, it's.
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Oh, brother.
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What you said is really true though, because so it's.
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Like we know, liberalism comes out of Protestantism 110%.
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It's like Protestantism.
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Luther ripped the authority of the Bible from the authority of the church, he split them in half and he basically, you know more or less said it's you and the Holy Spirit, you interpret the Bible right.
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He gave lip service to the fathers, so did John Calvin, but then you look at their theology.
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It doesn't match up.
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50,000 denominations.
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Later, 400 years passed, it's been so shattered that it makes a secular reviewer look at Christianity, if you will, as a whole, look like a joke and he says what's the thing?
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You guys are all divided amongst yourselves, you guys can't get along, et cetera, et cetera.
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And so, therefore, liberalism, which comes from Protestantism, how can you solve one with the other?
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It's just not going to work, whereas Catholicism has always been that goal.
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That says no, like you.
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There there is absolute rights, but you first have to have to understand there's the rights of God as creator and Lord and telling you what to do, and then, therefore, you don't have an absolute right to say whatever the heck you want or do whatever the heck you want.
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You have to be subordinate to your creator, et cetera.
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And I think the thing is going to all of these conversions, because we're going to talk about Tucker Carlson a little bit.
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He talked to Colonel Brandmuller and he was like I'm interested in thinking about the idea of converting to Catholicism.
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I think the reason all these guys are coming in is because one liberalism has borne the fruit into social Marxism, which has just poisoned and destroyed not just the academic realms in the United States but the family, just even just normal social interactions.
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It should be fine, like dating and stuff.
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It's absolutely destroyed it.
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And at the other hand of it, catholicism, particularly like the traditional rights, it's so counter-cultural, it's so incredibly counter-cultural.
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And so whether it's a protestant world of band playing up there with smoke machines or just like this weird 1960s relic of father bob saying how are you this morning, both are unappealing.
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People want a connection with the past, they want patrimony and it's just not part of what we're seeing is a lot of intellectual conversions, and those intellectual conversions are converting to the intellectual tradition of Christianity.
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They're not converting to this shallow feelings based Protestantism.
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Right, like these are people who were highly intellectual, all those people they named, like even Jordan Peterson's, discussing deeper themes of Christianity.
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He doesn't even entertain Protestantism, he really doesn't.
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He's having conversations with guys like Jonathan Peugeot and Bishop Barron.
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He's trying to have conversations with people that take the Christian faith way more seriously than the shallow feelings-based Protestantism that's kind of presented.
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So when you see someone like Candace Owens Candace Owens looks around her and sees the world falling apart right, the world is falling apart around us.
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I mean, we talk about it all the time.
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You see these ancient gods popping up everywhere and a lot of people have this intuitive sense that something is so wrong with this.
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You even see, like we were saying Tucker Carlson right, we're going to talk about him soon.
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He's even saying there's evil here.
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Like this isn't just people doing what they want, it's almost like a force acting upon them, leading them to do things that are so insane that you cannot just say it's just irrational, there's something evil about it.
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I mean, when people are actually trying to make the case for mutilating children.
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You're talking about something that is straight up evil.
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So you have people that are coming from a very highly intellectual perspective saying wait, something's going on here, let's look deeper into it.
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Like religion is returning Now.
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What religion that is is not certain, right, you see that the rainbow community is going to their religion.
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But I think a lot of these intellectuals are going to go either east or west into the more traditional faiths.
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Now I think the east is more this mystical thing and it's not as intellectually rigorous as the west.
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The west was so intellectual I mean you're talking about Thomism and things like that Like, I think the West naturally is inclined to want deep thought like that 100%, yeah, 100%, and I think you're right, it is intellectual conversions.
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I think what we're seeing now is maybe, perhaps a more rigorous in a good sense of the term rigorous form of Catholic conversions, like a new wave almost that we saw more or less.
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You saw particularly right back in, like the 80s and the 90s, with all of the evangelical big name converts like the Scott Hans and the Steve Rays, etc.
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The world who came into the church through reading the Bible and reading church history, and they came into the church.
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Now what we're seeing is oh, what's up, gideon?
00:34:43.356 --> 00:34:44.858
Good to see you, man.
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What we're seeing now, I think, is the reaction of good people who have been exposed to the evils on the internet.
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So the internet which is so fascinating is we've always talked about like it's a platform that can be used for good or bad.
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We all know this.
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It's a platform that can be used for good or bad.
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We all know this.
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But the thing is is we can just, by osmosis, become depressed with how much stuff we see online.
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Like you look at the crap that goes on here, there and everywhere it's easy to be blackpilled, but that tells you, hey, there has to be something good in this world, objectively good in this world, that's worth fighting for and giving one's life for and worth helping other people find than just, hey, you know, go to college, get a job, work nine to five till you're 65 and then die.
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Like there has to be more than that.
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And I think before the age of the internet, people abstractly knew, particularly here in America, yeah, yeah, there's bad out there right, like I see on the news, you know, at eight o'clock.
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But like, aside from that, you know, maybe there's some family turmoil, but it's.
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It is what it is.
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But we see crazy stuff all over which demands a like drastic solution.
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And what is more drastic than a system that says, hey, your liberal democracy is a failure, christ is king and he has to be king of society.
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It's crazy how that phrase has become so contentious, man.
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It would.
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It would have never been contentious a few years back.
00:36:06.829 --> 00:36:09.896
Um, but, oh, man, I just look.
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I'm sorry guys, I'm so tired, but you said something that uh, um, oh, having something to die for.
00:36:16.255 --> 00:36:17.318
Exactly.
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I remember having an interaction with somebody where they were like you people, you religious people, are nuts, you willing to go and die for this nonsense.
00:36:27.114 --> 00:36:35.088
And I just looked at them and I was like it is so sad to me that you don't have anything you believe in or love enough to lay down your life for.
00:36:35.088 --> 00:36:42.920
And it actually made them think, like they were making fun of me, that I'd be willing to be a martyr for this belief.
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:48.320
And I'm like you don't believe anything strongly enough that you'd be willing to lay down your life for it.
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:51.798
I mean even because they were single and didn't have kids too.
00:36:51.798 --> 00:37:03.278
So it's, you know, it's one thing I think a lot of secular people, once they have a wife and children, or a husband and children, they can rationalize OK, this is my purpose, I'm a parent now and they kind of make a purpose.
00:37:03.278 --> 00:37:06.967
Even in a purposeless world, in a meaningless world.
00:37:06.967 --> 00:37:10.164
They could find some kind of a meaning if they have children.
00:37:10.164 --> 00:37:19.295
But so many people today are doing this dink lifestyle, like you know dual income, no kids thing, and then without religious structure.
00:37:19.295 --> 00:37:23.141
I mean I talk to my friends at work all the time and I'm like, listen to me, because they think I'm nuts.
00:37:23.215 --> 00:37:27.143
I go to church every Sunday and you know I'm always trying to talk to them about it.
00:37:27.143 --> 00:37:29.824
It's funny because I never evangelize.
00:37:29.824 --> 00:37:34.146
I don't ever mention Jesus when I evangelize, because I know people's reaction to it.
00:37:34.146 --> 00:37:36.036
You get the Protestant reaction.
00:37:36.036 --> 00:37:44.623
So I'm always trying to get to like a deeper, just something a little deeper, just like you know I'll talk about what's going on in the culture, things like that.
00:37:44.623 --> 00:37:51.027
But whenever I do it, it's it's even though they think I'm crazy.
00:37:51.307 --> 00:38:01.119
I try to tell them like if you don't give your children something to believe in, like if you don't raise your children with a religion, the rainbow religion is coming for them.
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:05.664
If you don't give them something to believe in, they will believe anything and they're going to go into school and you'll.
00:38:05.664 --> 00:38:08.378
You may think like, oh, we are a conservative household.
00:38:08.378 --> 00:38:13.701
We brought people don't realize I don't care what you think you are sending your kid out to go get programmed to college.
00:38:13.701 --> 00:38:16.096
If you send them to college and they will come home and they will hate you.
00:38:16.096 --> 00:38:18.599
I have family members that sent their kids to college.
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.346
The daughters came home and won't even talk to them anymore.
00:38:21.706 --> 00:38:23.349
It's crazy, 100%.
00:38:23.349 --> 00:38:29.246
And I think you hit the nail on the head, even if people don't think that they're following a religion.
00:38:29.246 --> 00:38:34.838
So, like that lady who just is going on and on about like hey, you're weird, et cetera, she's still following her own religion.
00:38:34.838 --> 00:38:45.005
It's just satanic self-worship in some form, because, think about it, everybody, in one form or another right, is a slave to something right.
00:38:45.005 --> 00:38:57.476
St Paul talks about in Romans 6, our Lord talks about this in Matthew 6, that whatever you give yourself over to that's your master, you're its slave, et cetera, right, whether it's sin unto death, righteousness unto eternal life, et cetera.
00:38:57.476 --> 00:39:04.701
So these people might be like, hey, look, you're insane, you're following this dead guy 2000 years ago and you're reading this book written by men, et cetera, et cetera.
00:39:04.701 --> 00:39:13.320
But then I would turn back and I say, but yeah, you're following your own passions, you can't even stop watching pornography, you can't put down the bottle for five minutes and actually do something with your life.
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.664
Well, there's something to the saying.
00:39:15.664 --> 00:39:17.146
I don't know where it comes from.
00:39:17.146 --> 00:39:19.775
I wish I could give credit to where I heard it from.
00:39:19.775 --> 00:39:23.724
I just know in my travels, listening and reading, I've heard it.
00:39:23.724 --> 00:39:29.371
But every atheist is carrying around the dead corpse of the God he doesn't believe it on his back.
00:39:29.371 --> 00:39:29.693
Okay.
00:39:29.693 --> 00:39:30.737
So really think about what that's saying.
00:39:30.737 --> 00:39:35.737
Every atheist is carrying the dead corpse of the God he doesn't believe it on his back.
00:39:35.737 --> 00:39:42.940
So, whatever it is like, like if, if pornography is your, your you got to realize what a God is.
00:39:42.940 --> 00:39:45.286
A God is just anything you put in place of God.
00:39:45.286 --> 00:39:54.621
So if you're addicted to something that is the corpse of the God you claim you don't believe in, just dragging your soul down to hell.
00:39:54.621 --> 00:39:56.164
It really is what's happening.
00:39:56.164 --> 00:40:03.585
So these people who claim they don't believe in God are quite literally serving a God that is dragging their soul down to hell.
00:40:03.585 --> 00:40:04.527
It's a great saying.
00:40:04.527 --> 00:40:06.139
I wish I knew where I heard it.
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:07.802
No, that is an epic saying.
00:40:07.802 --> 00:40:16.597
I think, with the conversion of Candace Owens and I pray that Peterson's right on lockstep because, you're right, he approaches the faith from a different perspective.
00:40:16.597 --> 00:40:32.123
He doesn't deny anything, but he's looking at it from the perspective of, I think, like what Russell Brand is and a lot of these guys are like, when we look at the faith, typically we look at it from the angle and it's both are right but the angle of we have sin and we need a savior, and that's true.
00:40:32.123 --> 00:40:38.028
A lot of them are looking at it from the perspective of this world has suffering, insane suffering.
00:40:38.028 --> 00:40:40.135
You see it online, online all the time.
00:40:40.135 --> 00:40:41.882
So what is the solution?
00:40:42.001 --> 00:40:54.521
And so Peterson, who theorizes like Christ, is the ultimate person who defeated suffering, he went through suffering, he triumphed over suffering Like what is greater than torturous death, but then rising from the dead.
00:40:54.521 --> 00:41:04.896
I think when you look at him now, candace, and hopefully others, what you're going to see is that, number one, christ is with his church and he's bringing lots of good people into the church.
00:41:04.896 --> 00:41:13.465
But two, you're going to see, these intellectual minds are going to be shaping, if you will, the mainstream dialogue of Catholicism, I think for the better.
00:41:13.465 --> 00:41:14.574
I mean shoot.
00:41:14.574 --> 00:41:22.309
I wish we had like 500 Candace Owens showing up into the church and being able to really push the church, I think, in a good, healthy, dialogue direction well, that's what.
00:41:22.429 --> 00:41:26.155
That's what's going to happen, right, candace isn't going to come on and start telling everybody to be catholic.
00:41:26.155 --> 00:41:46.289
She's going to do kind of what michael uh, what michael knowles does, which is just talking about these deeper catholic concepts, and it's it's funny, like if you just speak about the deeper cath concept, people go, oh, oh, okay, that kind of makes sense to me, because a lot of people have this repulsion to Catholic thought just because it has the name Catholic to it.
00:41:46.289 --> 00:41:53.418
But if you just start talking about the philosophical grounding of things, it will make sense to people and I think guys like Jordan Peterson.
00:41:53.418 --> 00:41:54.760
Jordan Peterson said something recently.
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:01.298
He said, uh, when he was in that ewtn interview that, uh, the guy was like well, what are you going to embrace?
00:42:01.298 --> 00:42:04.487
What's holding you back from embracing the faith of your wife?
00:42:04.487 --> 00:42:06.179
And he goes I don't think anything's holding me back.
00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:07.684
He goes well, what's preventing you?
00:42:07.684 --> 00:42:08.836
Because nothing's preventing me.
00:42:08.836 --> 00:42:13.190
He said I exist on the margins is what jordan peterson said.
00:42:13.231 --> 00:42:24.688
Now, I think what jordan peterson means there is that he's still trying to have conversations with people and he doesn't want to be put in a box by those people.
00:42:24.688 --> 00:42:36.706
Right, he's still trying to have conversations with people like sam harris and people, and once he says I'm catholic, those guys are going to just write him off as just some, where he wants to exist on the margins.
00:42:36.706 --> 00:42:43.295
He wants to be on the margins where he's like okay, I'll talk to the atheist about, about Christianity, and then I'll talk to the Christian about technology.
00:42:43.295 --> 00:42:53.844
He really does want to exist in this marginal arena and not be put into a box, but I think that is eventually going to fail.
00:42:53.844 --> 00:42:58.081
You can't exist in this formless void.
00:42:58.081 --> 00:42:58.922
You can't exist in this formless void.
00:42:58.922 --> 00:43:05.623
He's going to eventually come to a point where he has to stake a claim on what he is, because that's you know what, what?
00:43:05.623 --> 00:43:08.775
What does Dante say about the person, the lukewarm person?
00:43:08.775 --> 00:43:12.023
Like in eternity, he chases a white flag forever.
00:43:12.023 --> 00:43:13.275
Like for all eternity.
00:43:13.335 --> 00:43:14.981
You chase a white flag because you never.
00:43:15.916 --> 00:43:34.403
It's a flag that means nothing like you're just chasing nothing for eternity, exactly, and so that's why I think that he's gonna have to get to a point where he's if he's saying christ is the ultimate person trying to go for suffering, and I'm like okay, but then what do you say about this guy not just he's this guy who does this.
00:43:34.403 --> 00:43:35.646
Like, what do you believe about him?
00:43:35.646 --> 00:43:44.677
Like, if he is this, if you truly believe in our teaching that this guy is the one who triumphs over suffering, then why don't you accept the solution that he gives?
00:43:45.318 --> 00:43:59.385
you know what I'm saying not just acknowledging the fact that he is a doctor, but taking what the doctor gives yeah, man, it's interesting times right, like seeing all these bigger names convert man it's, it's cool I like it, I just yeah.
00:43:59.945 --> 00:44:03.199
This is why I'm just there's just so much, there's just still so much hope.
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:11.050
I mean, it's so easy to be blackpilled sometimes, but then it's like, bro, how, how the heck do you get you know all within one year, fiducia.
00:44:11.050 --> 00:44:12.655
But then candace owens converting.
00:44:12.695 --> 00:44:22.710
You're like what, and the crazy thing is, none of these people are converting to this wishy-washy version of the faith being presented under this pontificate.
00:44:22.710 --> 00:44:28.454
None of them, every single one of these intellectuals, are being attracted to the intellectual tradition.
00:44:28.454 --> 00:44:33.728
They're going back and they're studying what the church fathers said or they're studying what Thomas Aquinas said.
00:44:33.728 --> 00:44:36.603
These are the things that are attracting people.
00:44:36.603 --> 00:44:41.867
None of them are being attracted to the spirit of Vatican II and ecumenism Nobody.
00:44:41.867 --> 00:44:48.367
It's just this generation that is in there will not be there forever, guys.
00:44:48.367 --> 00:44:50.081
It's just as simple as that.
00:44:50.081 --> 00:44:56.288
We're looking at the dying gasps of the hippie generation man.
00:44:56.288 --> 00:44:57.981
They're going to be gone soon.
00:44:57.981 --> 00:45:16.764
You might have some lingering side effects in the next five, six years, but I really do think within a decade you're going to see that just plateau and drop off and you're going to start getting more guys that joined the priesthood because they fell in love with the faith under Benedict and you'll start to get rid of a lot of this nonsense, in my opinion.
00:45:17.545 --> 00:45:17.907
I agree.
00:45:17.907 --> 00:45:30.103
That's why I do think like give it 10, 20 years max and you're gonna see, I think, a really cool tidal wave of not just conversion but also like restoration and priesthood, formation, liturgy, all kinds of stuff.
00:45:30.103 --> 00:45:35.565
Because, yeah, like we point out candace, you know, it looked like she converted into the london oratory.
00:45:35.565 --> 00:45:37.697
It was kind of hard to tell exactly where it was.
00:45:37.697 --> 00:45:39.204
But then you look behind her, what do you see?
00:45:39.204 --> 00:45:42.460
It's like the traditional mass altar cards that are behind her with the priest.
00:45:42.460 --> 00:45:46.744
So it's like okay, she's clearly with her husband being a trad right.
00:45:46.994 --> 00:45:50.300
So wait, the London Oratory would be the Anglican Ordinariate.
00:45:51.244 --> 00:45:51.925
No, so this would be.
00:45:51.925 --> 00:45:56.083
This is an oratory in London that does the traditional rite of mass.
00:45:56.083 --> 00:46:14.884
What was really cool is again now I'm speculating with this part there's two photos that she puts on X right, there's the one that everyone's posting, where it's her and the priest smiling, but then there's the other one where they're going into the church, and I don't know how many of you guys know this, but again, like in the traditional rite, she's coming from a Protestant background.
00:46:14.884 --> 00:46:25.472
In the traditional rite, when you come into the church, what the church priest does is he gives you like the edge of his stole and you follow it like a rope into the church and you go all the way up to the altar rail.
00:46:25.472 --> 00:46:27.413
When you get at the altar rail, what do you do?
00:46:27.413 --> 00:46:33.367
You profess the Tridentine Creed, which is a longer version of the Nicene Creed.
00:46:33.367 --> 00:46:37.400
Basically, it's all the Nicene Creed plus here are all the stuff the Protestants got wrong.
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.164
Right, and I'm going to affirm really yeah, it's really cool.
00:46:40.606 --> 00:46:47.746
The Society of St Pius X still does this, and this was the common practice before Vatican II is that you, when you were Protestant, you became Catholic.
00:46:47.746 --> 00:46:50.440
You would renounce your Protestantism and you go line by line.
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.005
You're like I renounce faith alone.
00:46:52.005 --> 00:46:57.605
I renounce, you know, these heretical teachings that Mary was a sinner and not perpetual virgin, etc.
00:46:57.605 --> 00:46:58.086
Right, I profess.
00:46:58.086 --> 00:47:01.775
I profess that the Pope is infallible under these circumstances, et cetera.
00:47:01.775 --> 00:47:06.885
You go through all of that, right, and then you know you're brought into the church through the other, through the other sacraments, et cetera.
00:47:06.885 --> 00:47:13.059
And so I don't know if she went through that again, it's speculation, but it as a server who's done this plenty of times.
00:47:13.059 --> 00:47:14.684
It looked like that's what she was doing.
00:47:20.715 --> 00:47:22.925
Well, george Far, she was doing well, george farmer, her husband clearly loves the traditional liturgy.
00:47:22.925 --> 00:47:23.166
I mean I've.
00:47:23.166 --> 00:47:23.849
He was on with tim gordon today.
00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:31.005
I didn't have a chance to catch it, I was sleeping, um, but he was also on with taylor recently and you can see, like all of these guys that are.
00:47:31.445 --> 00:47:44.177
It's funny because for all the defense you hear of, of, uh, even from the pope's planers of the novus ordo, every one of them do everything they can to escape it.
00:47:44.177 --> 00:47:54.335
Whether they go to, whether they go to an ordinary, a byzantine liturgy or whatever they can do to get away from the novus ordo, they do as they sit there and they defend the novus ordo.
00:47:54.335 --> 00:48:11.001
Dude, that kid antonius really has me at a point where I think Westerners that go to a Byzantine liturgy are LARPing Like dude, stop it, you're not, you're not, you don't have this Eastern mystic spirituality.
00:48:11.001 --> 00:48:11.221
Dude.
00:48:11.221 --> 00:48:14.188
Just go to a traditional Latin mass, go to the Tridentine mass.
00:48:14.188 --> 00:48:16.380
You don't belong in a Byzantine liturgy.
00:48:16.380 --> 00:48:17.581
I don't want to hear it.
00:48:17.581 --> 00:48:31.608
It's one thing if you're Greek, it's one thing if you are from the East, but for a Westerner to embrace this Byzantine liturgy, I understand if that's your only option other than Novus Ordo.
00:48:31.608 --> 00:48:32.469
Like I get that.
00:48:33.315 --> 00:48:41.358
But a lot of these guys, especially like you get, like Matt Fradd, trent Horn, those guys, like they know there's something wrong with the Novus Ordo.
00:48:41.358 --> 00:48:43.364
They don't want to be.
00:48:43.364 --> 00:48:56.842
I don't know, I don't want to, I don't want to say why they do it, I don't want to ascribe motives to them, but it seems like they want to get away from the Novus Ordo but they kind of don't want to be associated with the traditional Latin mass guys because they're, they have this, this reputation.
00:48:56.842 --> 00:49:02.090
So they go and they find the byzantine liturgy and it's like, well, you know, I, I go, I go to this liturgy.
00:49:02.090 --> 00:49:08.391
It's like, dude, stop it, you're an american, you're from the west, just go to the trinity mass man what are you guys doing?
00:49:08.771 --> 00:49:16.820
I remember whatever matt frad was in the byzantine world and was like so you go to a byzantine parish in the deep south in georgia.
00:49:16.820 --> 00:49:19.407
As an australian, like this just sounds really weird.
00:49:19.407 --> 00:49:20.295
I think.
00:49:20.315 --> 00:49:21.920
Well grover's wait.
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.503
Grover's saying say that to match.
00:49:23.503 --> 00:49:28.643
I think I did the first time we had him on, like yeah I think I did say that to him.
00:49:28.822 --> 00:49:33.380
It's um, there's something about and I'm not dude, I like matt, me and matt talk like it's not.
00:49:33.380 --> 00:49:35.565
I'm not making, I'm not like.
00:49:35.565 --> 00:49:39.905
Everybody takes like the slightest little comment about somebody as if it's like I'm insulting them.
00:49:39.905 --> 00:49:41.039
Has nothing to do with that.
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:42.661
I'm talking in general.
00:49:42.661 --> 00:49:46.382
Just go to the Triumphant Liturgy man.
00:49:46.382 --> 00:49:48.340
You guys got to stop Stop LARPing.
00:49:48.340 --> 00:49:49.465
We're Westerners here.
00:49:49.465 --> 00:49:54.746
Embrace the traditional Western Latin liturgy man.
00:49:54.746 --> 00:49:57.119
You guys have to just give back to what we are.
00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:04.164
We are the Latin church and we have to get away from this modernism especially, and we have to embrace the traditional Catholic faith.
00:50:04.164 --> 00:50:05.842
This is what's converting all these intellectuals.
00:50:05.842 --> 00:50:08.438
Get away from this nonsense 100%, I guess.
00:50:08.458 --> 00:50:12.661
Yeah, so one I agree, I think it's like it's even in the.
00:50:12.661 --> 00:50:22.398
It's like either in canon law or somewhere it's written down where it says something to the effect of like yeah, the right of your baptism is the right you're supposed to stay in, generally speaking, unless there's like some weird cause for not.
00:50:22.398 --> 00:50:24.443
But have you noticed this, anthony?
00:50:24.443 --> 00:50:48.153
Like every single major, have you noticed that every single major Catholic influencer, by and large right if you will, catholic influencer by and large right If you will, it's either Latin mass ordinary or Byzantine parish, or if they go to the Nova Sordo, it's like this exalted high unicorn, nova Sordo.
00:50:48.153 --> 00:50:50.987
I still criticize that, of course, but like you, like that's where they go.
00:50:50.987 --> 00:50:55.663
I haven't found one Catholic influencer who just goes to what people will call a regular parish.
00:50:55.663 --> 00:51:02.237
I've just never seen it call a regular parish.
00:51:02.257 --> 00:51:02.900
I've just never seen it, so okay.
00:51:02.900 --> 00:51:03.483
So Gideon's in here, right?
00:51:03.483 --> 00:51:05.170
So I don't know Gideon's heritage, but I would like to talk to him about this.
00:51:05.170 --> 00:51:06.737
That'd be an interesting conversation.
00:51:06.737 --> 00:51:09.346
Good boy, thursday that look.
00:51:10.309 --> 00:51:12.936
Part of me wants to say you're better off with the Novus Ordo than the Byzantine liturgy.
00:51:12.936 --> 00:51:13.476
But I won't say that.
00:51:13.476 --> 00:51:13.976
You make me go crazy.
00:51:13.976 --> 00:51:14.536
I won't say that.
00:51:14.536 --> 00:51:17.219
I won't say that because you make me go crazy.
00:51:17.219 --> 00:51:18.440
I won't say that.
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.603
I won't say that Cause at least you're doing, you're going to the liturgy of St John Chrysostom.
00:51:22.603 --> 00:51:32.032
But I, I'm just saying, like we are from the West, like just we got to stop trying to escape our, our heritage, man, this is our birthright.
00:51:32.032 --> 00:51:37.260
Like we need to embrace our birthright.
00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:52.822
But yeah, um, but yeah, it's part of me thinks the people that attend the unicorn Novus Ordo are some of the most selfish people out there, and I know this is a controversial take, but it's like, okay, you found this unicorn Novus Ordo, where it said ad orientum, they only have communion on the tongue.
00:51:52.822 --> 00:52:06.465
They don't have girl altar servers, servers like you found this one, this one unicorn, and you will defend the nova sordo as if the rest of western christendom isn't dealing with the liturgical wasteland.
00:52:06.505 --> 00:52:11.804
Like the rest of us, you go to your typical sunday parish and it's just like what and what.
00:52:11.804 --> 00:52:13.355
This is a protestant service at this point.
00:52:13.355 --> 00:52:15.898
This isn't even I mean I'm I have.
00:52:15.898 --> 00:52:28.931
So we have something to do on Sunday at like 12 or 1 o'clock and my options are attend the Novus Ordo or go to the chapel or go to the SSPX.
00:52:28.931 --> 00:52:38.710
Those are the only two options, because the Sunday Mass that I the Tridentine Mass I could go to like a diocesan would be 1130, but it's an hour and a half away.
00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:41.376
Or 12 30, but it's not even this sunday.
00:52:41.376 --> 00:52:42.201
It's every other sunday.
00:52:42.201 --> 00:52:44.110
So I would, I would miss my event sunday.
00:52:44.110 --> 00:52:57.224
So I'm going to have to wake up at 7 am and just go to the chapel sunday, otherwise I'm going to go to some liturgy that is so atrocious that it could be damaging to my kids faith, because it's.
00:52:57.224 --> 00:53:04.806
It's bad, like the, especially my local parishes are so bad yeah, I actually.
00:53:04.887 --> 00:53:07.976
So you know it's funny, even it's it's tangentially related.
00:53:07.976 --> 00:53:10.744
We all know about like those confession horror stories.
00:53:10.744 --> 00:53:15.717
I don't know if you have any confession horror stories where it's like the priest tells you something, so like off the wall or something.
00:53:15.717 --> 00:53:18.005
But I recently.
00:53:18.005 --> 00:53:23.402
So there's around me like five or six parishes and I typically go to one parish.
00:53:23.402 --> 00:53:29.657
Right, it's the parish that I go to for mass um, for the priest that's there because you know he's kind of like my steady, regular confessor et cetera.
00:53:29.657 --> 00:53:33.706
Well, recently I was, I was um occupied to it.
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So, for those of you guys who don't know, my grandfather passed away.
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So my family's been kind of like all over the place trying to get stuff ready like selling houses and funeral preparations.
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So I couldn't get, I couldn't go to my normal priest.
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So I went to this other parish for my weekly confession and I had gone like four years ago to this parish but I had walked away because the priest had told me stuff in the confessional that were heretical.
00:53:54.434 --> 00:53:57.204
I have an episode on this on my show.
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But I went radical.
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I have a an episode on on on this on my show.
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But uh, I went there and I was like, okay, I don't think the priest is there anymore.
00:54:02.568 --> 00:54:02.989
It's been four years.
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Just give it another chance.
00:54:03.893 --> 00:54:06.485
I just need to run in and out if you will go in there.
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I hear the confession, right, priest sounds nice, etc.
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Go through everything.
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He gets to the form.
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And what made me really nervous is number one when he, when he exited the room and he came into the confessional, he was an older priest but he's wearing a tie-dye stole.
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Oh boy, he got old priest from an older generation tie-dye stole.
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So you're already kind of sweating bullets like, oh no, is this gonna?
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This is gonna be rough.
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Go in there.
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He.
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He hears my confession, gives me the form, the.
00:54:33.083 --> 00:54:34.806
He makes up a form.
00:54:34.806 --> 00:54:37.882
He literally makes up a form of absolution.
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It wasn't.
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I absolve you in the name of father, son, holy spirit.
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It was like I forgive you of all your faults, of all your worries, of all your concerns, of all your sadness, and I bless you in god's name, amen.
00:54:52.711 --> 00:54:55.978
So you didn't even get legit absolution and so what?
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I?
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I was father.
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That's not the form.
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And he's like well, it's the one I learned in seminary.
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Wow, what?
00:55:06.608 --> 00:55:10.826
So I walked out of the room of the confessional.
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There's like six people right in line and I'm a quite.
00:55:15.664 --> 00:55:16.934
When you meet me in person, I'm pretty quiet.
00:55:16.934 --> 00:55:18.762
You're an introvert in real life.
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And then we're at a quiet church and I walk out and I'm a quiet.
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When you meet me in person, I'm pretty quiet.
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You're an introvert in real life.
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And then we're in a quiet church and I walk out and I'm like just to let you guys know Father is making up the form of absolution and these are invalid confessions.
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My recommendation is find a different priest.
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Did anybody leave the line?
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No, they were all just kind of standing there like what I don't know.
00:55:39.614 --> 00:55:41.121
Yeah, because they probably just thought you were a nut.
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They probably did.
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And I tried to explain.
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I said, like you know, the form is what you know the priest is supposed to say to forgive sins, et cetera.
00:55:49.623 --> 00:55:59.518
He's just making it up Crazy, crazy stuff, and so yeah, Part of why I started seeking out tradition was because I was at a.
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This is before I knew the traditional Latin mass.
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This is like 2016, 2017.
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I go to a Novus Ordo liturgy and it was a visiting priest and while we were there, he gets up during his homily and he says well, during the creed we are going to say for us, men and women and our salvation.
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Then he says we're going to hold hands during the hour of father and he walks down from the sanctuary and holds hands with the congregation during the hour of father.
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The readings the reading that Sunday was John 1.
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And he goes I'm not crazy about this reading, I'm going to switch it and he reads a different gospel than was supposed to be read that week.
00:56:42.003 --> 00:56:46.327
Like dude, I was sitting in and I'm like I've never been exposed to tradition before.
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I never even knew what the traditional Latin mass really was Like.
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I'd heard about it but I didn't know anything about it.
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I was so horrified that it was the only time I had gotten up and walked out of mass.
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Like I was furious.
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I went in and complained to the regular priest.
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Afterward I was like this was insane.
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I never it was.
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It was just the most narcissistic, that's all you can say.
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It's narcissistic.
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This priest thought the whole thing was about him.
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For us men and us women in our salvation.
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Like this, this whole thing, where he just wanted everybody to know he was protesting, what the change he made.
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Everybody say the responses before Benedict changed them.
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So it wasn't, it wasn't, and with your spirit it was, and also with you, like all these things.
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He was just this old queen from the sixties and he just wanted to make the mass about himself.
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I just remember being so furious that that was when I started like really seeking out what the heck is going on in the church and I think I right around that time I discovered taylor and you know.
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Then I find the traditional mass and all that stuff.
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It was just, it was just an insane experience I had.
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That was the craziest nova sordo experience I'd ever had but it can.
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But can you picture if you were to put someone again like Jordan Peterson in either that confessional or that mass, like they would have just walked out and said, especially, you know, you don't have to be a Catholic scholar to just see, like yo, this is, this is, this is wacky.
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They would have said how is this the religion of the man walking up with the cross on his shoulder up to Golgotha to be crucified, the man walking up with the cross on his shoulder up to Golgotha to be crucified?
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You know, like that doesn't make sense and that whole idea, especially as you mentioned, like he comes down right, the priest comes down, holds hands with the crowd, saying the our father.
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I'm surprised at that moment he doesn't say like our father and our mother.
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Like you know, you're surprised yeah, I mean I I've had some.
00:58:37.922 --> 00:58:44.443
I've had that was probably the craziest experience I ever had, but I've also had just like subtle little wacky things happen.
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I mean I watched, um, I, I was at a parish where there were three priests, two deacons, and in the middle of the homily, um, somebody had a heart attack.
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It was my friend's father had a heart attack and the priest no priest went over to give him last rites.
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No, like it was just the most awkward thing that it was just like a couple of people like carried him outside and the guy died at the.
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It's like there's three priests there.
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One of them could have gone over and given this man holy unction.
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Like what is going on.
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It's almost like I had this feeling like they don't believe the power of the sacrament, like I.
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It just left me feeling that way.
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I mean I don't.
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I don't want to again put motives in people's hearts, but I was there for a communion.
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This was, this was like two years ago.
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I was there for a friend's communion and the father his father-in-law, his wife's father had a heart attack mid mass and I was just, I just remember being horrified.
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I remember talking to father Nix about it and it's like, like the homily is kind of a pause in the mass.
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Exactly, it's actually a pause in the mass, so it while if, especially that this, this happened during the homily, it would have been OK for the priest to say it wasn't like he was in the middle of the Roman canon.
01:00:01.574 --> 01:00:06.327
I could understand continuing with that, but there were three priests there on top of that.
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Like one of those priests could have gone down because it was a communion, like a first communion.
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So they were all.
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Three priests were up in the sanctuary.
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It just could have been handled so much better.
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And I just remember thinking like man, so many people were probably turned off by what they saw there.
01:00:22.643 --> 01:00:23.807
Like, like what?
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What is a priest if not someone to help you handle your transition from this life to the next right?
01:00:29.583 --> 01:00:35.646
Like that is your whole, that is, the whole essence of your being is to help us transition from this life to the next.
01:00:35.646 --> 01:00:37.777
That should have been like what problem?
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Let me jump into action.
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It's like your superpower.
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What do you think?
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Here's my question for you, Anthony what do you think St Alphonsus Liguori would say to the state of the church, particularly in the West that we're in right now?
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Probably a lot of similar things that you say.
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He would be talking about a counterfeit church.
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He would be talking about the eclipse of the day.
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He would sound like vegan.
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Oh, I mean to be honest I think he would also just say, like, like one, where is all of your guys?
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It's like genuine love for christ, you know, like your hearts are so, like it's like an ocean has been poured on this, on your hearts.
01:01:15.425 --> 01:01:27.304
That should be like the sacred heart, if you will, burning in charity with christ, and like I think you'd probably just say to the priest, like how cat, like how many calluses have grown over your over, like that tender heart that should be there.
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Because that's the thing, like I'm not a priest.
01:01:29.237 --> 01:01:45.467
But if you see a priest as a spiritual father and you're a priest and you see like your congregation as spiritual children and you just let one die, that's just like letting your physical child die and you just don't pick up a finger about it again.
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I'm not, I'm not trying to judge the priest harshly, but I'm like this is insane, like it's great.
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Don't see themselves as fathers.
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It sounds like they just see themselves as as, like you know, yes, men, to assist them, like it's a job that they're supposed to do.
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And administers like they're, but they're not father.
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Like they've lost that tender fatherly heart for their children and they don't see the, the parish, as their spiritual children, making sure they get to heaven.
01:02:11.677 --> 01:02:25.217
Like you, you read some of the, some of the, the St Priests Right, the saint priests right, and all of them like there's that one story, I forgot which saint it was he's like, he like brings his friend down into the cemetery and he goes these are my saints, or something you know.
01:02:25.217 --> 01:02:27.960
It's like they all saw themselves as that.
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.489
Hey, nick, sorry for bothering you at confession, but wanted to offer encouragement.
01:02:31.489 --> 01:02:37.922
Uh, also, it was very interesting confession experience, yeah it was.
01:02:38.182 --> 01:02:43.182
It was different, that's for sure wait, but what is he saying there?
01:02:43.182 --> 01:02:44.445
Hey, nick, sorry for bothering you.
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A confession.
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Oh, what did you?
01:02:45.547 --> 01:02:46.657
Did this person meet you?
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I don't think so bright, brady hayes, I don't think so, but uh, maybe we have met, maybe yeah like saint john vianney, would weep, like they've really lost the sense that and you can see it in the confessional, especially because, especially the older priests they'll dismiss a lot of your sins and just say like, oh, that's not a sin, don't worry about that.
01:03:12.855 --> 01:03:18.523
Like they all have these calluses on their hearts and I think ecumenism is a a big part of that right.
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This, this false sense of mercy.
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Like, oh, let's just have a conversation, we just need to love everybody.
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It's not that big dogma is not important, we just need to love everybody.
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That's crazy, I don't know.
01:03:30.063 --> 01:03:32.612
Like to me that shows a lack of charity.
01:03:32.751 --> 01:03:36.985
If you're unwilling to share the truth with somebody, I mean there's a way to go about it.
01:03:36.985 --> 01:03:39.056
You could do it tastefully, you know.
01:03:39.056 --> 01:03:42.925
Like you don't just go around yelling at somebody in a same-sex relationship.
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You're going to hell.
01:03:43.487 --> 01:03:46.625
But there's ways to subtly have these conversations.
01:03:46.625 --> 01:03:51.184
Like I know somebody with same-sex attraction in my life and they grew up.
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The mother was Catholic, the father was Greek Orthodox, so the way I would talk to him is like, hey, I would love to go experience.
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This was a long time ago until my, my, my, my, uh position on biz LARPing came about.
01:04:08.583 --> 01:04:13.456
But I was like I would like it to be, took me to like a Byzantine liturgy, like I would like to experience that.
01:04:13.456 --> 01:04:20.063
But it was just a way to start a conversation and not come off like pointing the finger like you're doing this, you're doing that.
01:04:20.063 --> 01:04:26.809
It was just a way to kind of bring the conversation toward faith, like there's ways to talk to people but you always share the truth.
01:04:26.809 --> 01:04:39.855
You don't withhold the truth from people you.
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If you give people a false sense of security, right, then basically what you're doing is you're legalizing presumption right in the church.
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Where do we find these priests?
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I think they're commonly out there.
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Of course, I think that the younger priests are better, right.
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So I think it does kind of depend on where you're at right.
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And so that's why I kind of joke about like when you see an older priest and you're not at a trad parish, you're probably like, oh, this could be interesting and it can be, but you know they're out there.
01:05:00.536 --> 01:05:03.625
And I think it goes back to just this reality that you know.
01:05:03.744 --> 01:05:11.239
Sometimes, I think, we're told by priests all the time like don't be scrupulous, don't be scrupulous and you shouldn't, like legitimate scrupulosity is a problem, et cetera.
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Right, cause it's sparing God's mercy.
01:05:13.021 --> 01:05:15.744
You need to have hope in Christ, take advantage of the sacraments.
01:05:15.744 --> 01:05:21.891
But I think that we as a church and as a people struggle way more with presumption.
01:05:21.891 --> 01:05:22.717
I mean, just think about it.
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It's like, especially if you come from the secular, liberal American world, where your whole life is literally just make it what you want to be as long as you don't hurt anybody, right?
01:05:31.396 --> 01:05:35.822
And then you dive into the church, it's like, okay, here are all these commandments all of a sudden.
01:05:35.822 --> 01:05:37.125
Right, that I got to keep.
01:05:37.125 --> 01:05:41.175
Well, okay, but I can just go back to confession tomorrow, right?
01:05:41.175 --> 01:05:41.838
What's the big deal?
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I'm not hurting anybody, it doesn't really hurt me, I enjoy the sin, et cetera.
01:05:45.577 --> 01:05:46.760
Why can't I right?
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:57.516
I know it's wrong, but you know I got to live man, et cetera.
01:05:57.516 --> 01:05:58.318
You know whatever the excuse will be.
01:05:58.318 --> 01:06:03.132
And so when priests aren't teaching catechism, when they're not just preaching sermons that are like catechism anymore, you have ignorance, you have despair, and it's not helping people.
01:06:03.713 --> 01:06:26.387
You know, I don't think every priest is a theologian, but at least catechize your flock I do think there is a danger that we have to be cautious of in because they've done so much of this lovey-dovey nonsense, to go so hard the other way, to swing the pendulum back and just see god as this moral like you know that.
01:06:26.469 --> 01:06:49.197
I think that's where scrupulosity comes from, and I think a lot of that has to do with father wounds like, I think a lot of that has to do with, like father wounds, where because I've had conversations with um, with people where they their whole understanding of, uh, receiving love from their parents had to do with performing right and, like they, they didn't get love from their parents if they didn't do exactly what they were supposed to do.
01:06:49.237 --> 01:06:58.864
And I think there is a, a, a, a way you can fall into that, thinking that God's just this moralist standing over you waiting for you to make a mistake Like there.
01:06:58.864 --> 01:07:05.460
You know, we do probably need to talk a little more about God's love and God's mercy, but not the way they do.
01:07:05.460 --> 01:07:13.318
The way they do is just this false mercy, it's just, it's just not legit, it's not real, you know.
01:07:13.318 --> 01:07:41.309
And and where I think there has to be a, a way in in our circles, where we talk about it, where it doesn't come off as mushy and nonsense, it's like actual the love of God and God's actual mercy, because I think it's easy to fall into despair or go or so, and when people do fall into despair, they actually will go the other route and fall into that nonsense, fake stuff, because they just found it too hard on the one side.
01:07:41.909 --> 01:07:51.670
Yeah, mrs Homemaker is right, like there's a lot of traditional people myself included, especially when I first became Catholic who were, you know, filled with scrupulosity, anxiety, et cetera.
01:07:51.670 --> 01:07:57.967
And I think that what the mean is, between presumption and despair, right, is hope.
01:07:57.967 --> 01:07:59.135
Right, that's just what it is Like.
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There's the theological virtue of hope.
01:08:01.023 --> 01:08:03.302
The two sins against it are presumption, despair.
01:08:03.302 --> 01:08:07.400
But then, like, what's a good model for this, I think it's the sacred heart.
01:08:07.815 --> 01:08:19.250
You look at the sacred heart and on the one hand, right, you see the heart of Christ bursting with fiery love for the world, right, but yet you see it encircled with a crown of thorns.
01:08:25.135 --> 01:08:26.359
Right, sin offends God, but look at what he is giving you.
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He's giving you his heart, he's giving you his love.
01:08:27.542 --> 01:08:30.310
So it's sin is the separation between you and love itself.
01:08:30.310 --> 01:08:33.158
Right, love is there for you, love is there waiting for you.
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But sin is that great person in the middle.
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It's like if you're married or if you have a boyfriend and girlfriend and you love that, they're waiting for you, but sin is that great person in the middle.
01:08:38.832 --> 01:08:49.765
It's like if you're married or if you have a boyfriend and girlfriend and you love that person, sin would be like another person or a habit or whatever right, getting in between y'all and dividing you up and it's, you know, to the nth degree with God.
01:08:49.765 --> 01:08:57.882
And so I think the way we get that in preaching and again this is just for the random priest who maybe watches the show, you know emphasize the balance in the sacred heart.
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Like sin does wound God, like our sin made the cross necessary, but yet it's the love of God that triumphs over our sin, right and can ultimately move us to true repentance.
01:09:10.458 --> 01:09:17.364
Yeah, I think, oh, man, it's got to be difficult to be a priest and give penances, man, because Very difficult.
01:09:17.364 --> 01:09:21.243
Yeah, like the typical penance you're getting is oh, go say three hail marys right.
01:09:21.243 --> 01:09:25.195
Or go say an our father, which, yeah, it's not a real penance.
01:09:25.195 --> 01:09:29.636
I mean, it's like it takes you 30 seconds when you get out of the confessional to go and do that like the best.
01:09:29.636 --> 01:09:34.445
The best penance I've ever gotten was when I had gone to.
01:09:35.087 --> 01:10:01.815
This was the priest that I was going to repeatedly, and when I had gone and confessed the same sin two or three times in a row, he said listen, I'm you know, I know you saying you have a firm purpose of amendment, but I want you to set your alarm for three o'clock every day and I want you to pray the rosary every day at three o'clock and like, with no end to that, like he didn't say, do it for three days, like he was like I want you to set an alarm every day for three o'clock, this is the hour of mercy.
01:10:01.956 --> 01:10:13.605
And that penance was tricky but it got me to root that sin out of my life like it's you know, and I'm not saying every priest needs to do that with every penitent in the confessional.
01:10:13.605 --> 01:10:19.226
But I do like when a priest gives me something a little tailored toward what I'm struggling with.
01:10:19.226 --> 01:10:38.761
You know, like I've had a couple of priests give me specific litanies to pray which I like that, like just tailor it to me a little bit, you know, to what I'm struggling with, whether you know if I'm going in and it's pride or something like that, I would almost want a priest to give me a penance and say get off social media for a period.
01:10:38.801 --> 01:10:48.421
you know like that would be a good penance, especially if I'm confessing struggles with social media, like, okay, well, I want you to give up social media and I like of course you could take that on yourself.
01:10:48.694 --> 01:11:05.662
but there's something different about when a priest gives it to you as a penance and your absolution is kind of linked to it you know, yeah, yeah, you actually are bringing up a subject I'm so passionate about, um, so the council of trent talks about in their section in their canons on the sacrament of penance.
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I'm going to answer uh, yeah, uh, dominique conness's question to me in a second, because he is a really good question, I think.
01:11:12.007 --> 01:11:22.140
But uh, the council of trent has this, has this massive section that talks about to a priest, a penance is supposed to be geared toward the penitent, so it's going to make sense.
01:11:22.140 --> 01:11:27.887
But the big thing they say is that it has to equal whatever the sin committed.
01:11:27.887 --> 01:11:35.487
So when you see priests typically now giving, like, say, three Hail Marys and that's it, that's probably not what it is Like.
01:11:35.527 --> 01:11:40.444
If you read St Alphonsus, he'll talk about like, yeah, it should be at least a rosary if you've committed something like that.
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But they tell you why.
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It's not just that you're repaying, if you will this temporal justice back to God, but it's also because if the priest doesn't do this, the priest receives that person's temporal punishment, if you will, upon themselves and they're going to have to pay it off in purgatory.
01:11:58.787 --> 01:12:00.010
Well, that's right.
01:12:00.010 --> 01:12:04.104
So if a priest gives you a light penance, he is supposed to go and do penance on your behalf.
01:12:04.605 --> 01:12:06.942
Exactly, and that's what St John Vianney would do.
01:12:06.942 --> 01:12:11.595
He would give his penitents right lighter penances, but he would be doing it all the time.
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He would do the penance on their behalf, like on their behalf, like that's a true mediator, like that is somebody who takes it, takes upon himself.
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.286
There's like that is a participation in the sufferings of christ.
01:12:23.365 --> 01:12:28.292
Right there, a priest that does something like that it is and when you take into effect, like even your story.
01:12:28.292 --> 01:12:41.382
I like your story because, like, if a person's good, if you're like, if you're, if you're out there watching and you're a person that's constantly going back and confessing the same thing, you only need to ask yourself just one question Do you have that firm purpose of amendment?
01:12:41.382 --> 01:12:48.742
And if you want to know if you do, just ask yourself okay, am I trying to avoid this sin, am I trying to put barriers in place, et cetera.
01:12:48.742 --> 01:12:51.817
If you are good, ask the Lord for mercy and keep fighting the good fight.
01:12:51.817 --> 01:12:58.904
But if you just don't really care and you're just continuously doing the same thing, in moral theology they call you a recidivist sinner.
01:12:58.904 --> 01:13:01.849
Basically, it's just a person who uses the confessional as a revolving door.
01:13:02.168 --> 01:13:03.270
Yeah, you're using it as a revolving door.
01:13:03.270 --> 01:13:03.770
You're lukewarm.
01:13:13.835 --> 01:13:14.095
Exactly.
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And at that point what the priest needs to do is he needs to say I need to withhold absolution from you, one for the integrity of the sacrament, just because you don't want to abuse it.
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But two, this isn't helping you.
01:13:19.648 --> 01:13:21.051
You're not really that sorry, it doesn't really work.
01:13:21.051 --> 01:13:29.387
And then, to answer Domeni Kanis' question real quick, he asks for me why do you think trads online aren't promoting more serious study of theology?
01:13:29.387 --> 01:13:32.360
Your series on the manuals definitely be helpful, et cetera.
01:13:34.185 --> 01:13:43.704
Real quick answer because I want Anthony's thoughts on my take is one I think most trads unfortunately focus way, way, way too much on church politics.
01:13:43.704 --> 01:13:45.515
I've been guilty of that myself.
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I repent of that myself because it's easy Content creation.
01:13:49.506 --> 01:13:51.537
You can fall into that especially easy.
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But I think one reason why it's not more seriously promoted is one you don't get a lot of views.
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But then two oftentimes I think traditionalists will fall into pride in assuming that they know everything, and the reality is that we're always needing to be taught by our Holy Mother, the church.
01:14:07.015 --> 01:14:14.189
And so, yeah, I hope with my series I'm able to bring more intellectual thought into Catholicism's discussion online, if you will.
01:14:14.435 --> 01:14:19.728
Well, today's temptation was do we go with the new document coming out on apparitions?
01:14:19.728 --> 01:14:26.528
Then I also have an article of Cardinal Seurat.
01:14:26.528 --> 01:14:34.502
I had a few church things and I'm like, yeah, that'll get clicks, but I'm just tired of the German church.
01:14:34.502 --> 01:14:35.698
I'm just tired of it.
01:14:35.698 --> 01:14:36.118
I'd rather talk.
01:14:36.118 --> 01:14:39.408
Like yes, I'm not like, I'm just tired of it, like I don't, I'd rather talk.
01:14:39.408 --> 01:14:41.895
I mean, I think this is a good conversation we're talking about.
01:14:43.097 --> 01:14:45.603
You know, like even the, even the confession thing.
01:14:45.603 --> 01:14:51.238
Um, I have a, I have a priest that I do go to every once in a while, just because it's convenient.
01:14:51.238 --> 01:14:57.149
And every time my penance is stay in our father for world peace.
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And the first time or two I was like, okay, you know fine, but the more he gave it to me, it's every single time.
01:15:04.836 --> 01:15:20.376
And I'm like what about saying saying a prayer for penance of my sin, like it's not just for world, but I understand, yeah, you know there's stuff going on in the middle East and world peace, but that's such a hippie thing to say.
01:15:20.376 --> 01:15:27.260
It's like my penance is supposed to be geared toward my actual sin and rooting this sin out of my life.
01:15:27.260 --> 01:15:34.043
And I remember when that finally hit me, like how bothered I was by that that he just does that every time.
01:15:34.043 --> 01:15:35.369
I'm not criticizing the priest too much.
01:15:35.369 --> 01:15:36.507
These guys are kind of just products of the just that he just does that every time.
01:15:36.507 --> 01:15:37.269
I'm not criticizing the priest too much, I get.
01:15:37.269 --> 01:15:40.259
These guys are kind of just products of the seminary.
01:15:40.259 --> 01:15:41.060
They went to man.
01:15:41.202 --> 01:15:44.997
Yeah, they just are you know, yeah, no, I agree, I think.
01:15:44.997 --> 01:16:06.242
Uh, you remind me the first confession I ever had after coming into the church, the penance was, say, the act of contrition and on our father like the act of contrition and an our father like the act of contrition was the penance and it was I get just like here in my local town and so, yeah, it's just, it's just wild stuff like that To what's yeah, bring back.
01:16:06.242 --> 01:16:10.475
Yeah, I think to a degree it wouldn't actually be bad in some certain circumstances.
01:16:11.016 --> 01:16:15.761
Did you see the climate activists the other day cloak themselves in sackcloth and ash?
01:16:15.761 --> 01:16:17.987
Yes, it was wild.
01:16:17.987 --> 01:16:38.871
This is a video of climate activists cloaked in sackcloth and ash, and my first thought was, if the bishops and cardinals at the sex summit in 2018 had done that cloaked themselves in sackcloth and ash and begged forgiveness and god's mercy like the church would look insanely different today.
01:16:38.871 --> 01:16:47.426
But instead they went in and they justified all the things that were between adults and they justified same-sex relations.
01:16:47.426 --> 01:16:53.403
But and it's like holy cow man these guys are just inviting the wrath of god upon us.
01:16:53.403 --> 01:16:58.369
Like this is this is they are just begging God to give us a chastisement.
01:16:58.369 --> 01:17:09.404
All God asks is that we go and repent, and if we if our us as a church had actually adorned sackcloth and ash, you would see the world change like quickly.
01:17:11.019 --> 01:17:14.363
But we instead, we have climate activists doing this instead of us.
01:17:14.363 --> 01:17:15.286
It's crazy, man.
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They because there's something intuitive that they know like that repentance.
01:17:25.140 --> 01:17:26.043
It's so weird because they'll clean.
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They don't, but, but they know they need to repent.
01:17:27.068 --> 01:17:31.828
It's something so intuitive about adorning sackcloth and ash and sorrow for our crimes against god yeah, no, one thousand percent.
01:17:31.868 --> 01:17:34.716
You look at on the story of the prophet jonah and what happens?
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It's like he goes to nineveh.
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He preaches the truth.
01:17:36.962 --> 01:17:40.467
They have sackcloth and ashes, bro, they don't even let the animals eat.
01:17:40.467 --> 01:17:43.079
Right, the animals have to fast, everyone has to fast.
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:49.095
And um, the result of that is the wrath of god is turned away.
01:17:49.095 --> 01:17:52.203
It says like god looked, saw their works, withheld his wrath.
01:17:53.185 --> 01:17:56.280
And the thing is like we don't do that now and again.
01:17:56.280 --> 01:18:06.405
If people want to try to justify some of the actions that you know, like bishops and the pontificate and stuff like that do when it comes to all of these kind of loosey-goosey things, okay, you can try to justify that, that's your right, etc.
01:18:06.405 --> 01:18:08.259
But here's the thing.
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Even the fact, though, that it allows scandal and the world thinks that we've changed our belief is working hand in hand with demons.
01:18:16.689 --> 01:18:21.501
God, you know, like St Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 5, 22, I believe it is.
01:18:21.501 --> 01:18:28.288
He says have no appearance of evil, don't even look like you're doing evil, because that's it's scandalous in and of itself.
01:18:28.288 --> 01:18:41.125
And if the world thinks we've changed, then what we're doing is Satan still, if you will, has a victory in that moment, because he gets people to think, hey, we're all good, and if people genuinely want us to change, it's crazy.
01:18:42.256 --> 01:18:48.301
One real quick thing I'll say to Gideon's point on the penances yeah, no, I agree with you.
01:18:48.301 --> 01:19:00.161
And if you want, yeah, gideon, reach out to me on Instagram or something I don't know if you're on Instagram or anything like that or reach out to me on one of my community posts on YouTube, but I'd just like to connect.
01:19:00.161 --> 01:19:00.694
It'd be kind of fun.
01:19:00.694 --> 01:19:02.882
If you want to talk about nerdy scholastic, stuff.
01:19:03.143 --> 01:19:03.865
That'd be fun.
01:19:03.865 --> 01:19:06.917
If you want, I can connect to you guys.
01:19:06.917 --> 01:19:13.420
Gideon, if you want to shoot me a DM on Twitter or something, I'll give you Nick's phone number and you guys connect that.
01:19:13.420 --> 01:19:14.643
That would be an interesting conversation.
01:19:14.643 --> 01:19:20.444
I'd like to get gideon on too, because we've been talking so much about like part of the conversation I wanted to talk about tonight.
01:19:20.444 --> 01:19:25.100
But I keep saying tonight, thinking it's eight o'clock at night, was the tucker rogan thing?
01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:33.600
Yeah, um, and just tucker on evolution, right, and it's like gideon's one of, uh, one of the one of the people who's he's?
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:35.261
He was on frat.
01:19:35.261 --> 01:19:37.125
He debated jimmy aiken, like some of the things.
01:19:37.125 --> 01:19:44.274
Jimmy aiken's last performance on frat was so ridiculous I thought it was crazy, so ridiculous.
01:19:44.435 --> 01:19:49.091
Like it's just talking about aliens getting stigmata and all that.
01:19:49.091 --> 01:19:57.144
And when I had tracked on I made a joke of it and I was like you know, you're coming down on me and taylor for the moon landing stuff, but like that's like all, I don't trust my government.
01:19:57.144 --> 01:20:03.454
Yeah, where Jimmy Akin's going is like this is just so insane.
01:20:03.454 --> 01:20:08.914
Like you think that's not going to turn off Protestant converts or atheist converts.
01:20:08.914 --> 01:20:10.408
Like that stuff is so nuts.
01:20:10.448 --> 01:20:18.094
Some of the things he taught, and I just see this inescapable link between, like the conversation with rogan on evolution.
01:20:18.094 --> 01:20:28.181
I really, oh man, I didn't clip it good enough, so I I think we should save it for maybe a local segment because to really go through it, you see joe rogan's logic.
01:20:28.181 --> 01:20:33.541
He's like joe rogan's logic is if evolution is real, humanity's not that important.
01:20:33.541 --> 01:20:45.158
Yeah, and and the whole debate between Rogan and Tucker is Tucker's like no, no, no, human beings are important and God did create us, and if evolution inevitably leads to this, you're not that important.
01:20:45.158 --> 01:20:45.822
You're kind of just.
01:20:45.822 --> 01:20:47.402
You know, we found a way.
01:20:48.239 --> 01:21:00.707
It's a story that they told for the creation of life and it always links to aliens, because if evolution happened here, it happened elsewhere, and it just people that say it wouldn't contradict my catholic faith.
01:21:00.707 --> 01:21:02.497
You're not really thinking about your catholic faith.
01:21:02.497 --> 01:21:02.939
I'm sorry.
01:21:02.939 --> 01:21:04.726
Like it doesn't make sense.
01:21:04.726 --> 01:21:10.444
That would mean god created creatures that have intellect and reason and they're not in his image.
01:21:10.444 --> 01:21:10.784
It's just.
01:21:10.784 --> 01:21:11.828
It's just, I'm sorry.
01:21:11.828 --> 01:21:15.547
It does contradict the catholic faith yeah, no, that's really really wacky.
01:21:15.908 --> 01:21:18.979
Um yeah, let's talk a little bit about that, because it is interesting.
01:21:19.100 --> 01:21:19.720
I have clips.
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:22.056
If you want, let's let's play the clips yeah, we do, I got.
01:21:22.117 --> 01:21:26.230
I got at least like 40 more minutes or something, so we're good okay uh, let me see.
01:21:27.076 --> 01:21:27.657
I don't know what.
01:21:27.657 --> 01:21:35.297
Oh wait, I don't know what order these are in, so you guys will just have to bear with me for a second.
01:21:35.297 --> 01:21:38.204
Um, but we'll try, I think.
01:21:38.204 --> 01:21:39.876
I think this is the right one.
01:21:40.296 --> 01:21:52.411
Let's see is there any sound on your end, anthony?
01:21:52.411 --> 01:21:57.565
Because I don't hear any sound on my end.
01:21:57.565 --> 01:22:01.179
So I'm wondering if the audience oh, you don't hear it, yeah, not on, not on my end.
01:22:01.179 --> 01:22:05.769
So I'm wondering can you, can the audience, can you guys hear it?
01:22:06.275 --> 01:22:09.944
yeah, guys, can you hear that, can't hear it.
01:22:09.944 --> 01:22:15.923
Oh man, without Rob, I hear it totally on my end.
01:22:16.203 --> 01:22:17.225
What is going on?
01:22:17.225 --> 01:22:18.427
You can just tell us what he says.
01:22:21.016 --> 01:22:22.487
No, this is a good clip.
01:22:22.487 --> 01:22:23.051
Why did?
01:22:23.051 --> 01:22:30.860
Let me see, that's the volume up.
01:22:42.716 --> 01:22:47.948
Yeah, I think it's probably just going through an output like straight to you or something like that.
01:22:47.967 --> 01:22:55.005
Huh man, I knew rob was important, but I didn't realize how important we didn't know why rob was important, but you know what I could do.
01:22:55.005 --> 01:22:55.806
I could play it from my phone.
01:22:55.806 --> 01:22:56.332
Yeah, do it that way I was.
01:22:56.301 --> 01:22:56.859
Yeah, I'll play it from my phone.
01:22:56.859 --> 01:22:57.105
Yeah, do it that way.
01:22:57.335 --> 01:22:58.277
Yeah, I'll play it from my phone.
01:22:58.277 --> 01:23:01.805
All right, let's remove that.
01:23:01.805 --> 01:23:06.511
All right, technical difficulty Guys, my Gen Z tech guy is not here.
01:23:06.511 --> 01:23:07.154
I don't know what to tell you.
01:23:07.154 --> 01:23:10.497
All right, let's go how?
01:23:10.537 --> 01:23:11.180
can that be good?
01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:24.203
Well, if God creates everything, if God created the universe and God creates people, god probably creates a process and we think that we are very important because we are very important to us.
01:23:24.203 --> 01:23:28.529
But are we very important in the universal sense?
01:23:28.529 --> 01:23:37.009
Not really, like if the earth just imploded and disappeared, if the sun went supernova and our whole solar system was blown to bits.
01:23:37.009 --> 01:23:42.208
The universe, it still exists, it depends so do you hear?
01:23:42.789 --> 01:23:46.640
just just, the implicit logic behind evolution is humans, aren't.
01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:52.764
I mean, you know, if god created this process and that's the evolution joe, so well, if god created this process, it's just.
01:23:52.764 --> 01:24:00.381
You know, humans are just like joe's, the transhumanism thing, the alien thing, they're all very connected, man.
01:24:00.381 --> 01:24:01.780
It's like you can't escape it.
01:24:01.780 --> 01:24:03.219
Let me see what other clips I got here.
01:24:05.265 --> 01:24:07.762
Yeah, oh man, it's such a depressing worldview.
01:24:07.762 --> 01:24:26.679
It reminds me of whenever I was younger, first getting into this debate, and it made me ask or I heard someone state this very succinctly and wisely asked, or I heard someone state this very succinctly and wisely you can't get mad, for instance, at like, say, school shooters or crazy people doing evil actions.
01:24:26.679 --> 01:24:36.782
If you actually beat into their ideas, into their brain for years and years and years that you're no better than monkeys, why would you be surprised that people act like baboons and apes if you've been telling them that they're apes for forever?
01:24:36.782 --> 01:24:37.444
You know what I'm saying.
01:24:37.444 --> 01:24:44.019
And so it's one of those things where you're going.
01:24:44.059 --> 01:24:54.755
People are looking for some type of transcendental reality outside of God, like whether that's aliens or whatever right For meaning and for like an explanation to everything, all so that they can justify their immoral behavior.
01:24:54.755 --> 01:24:57.043
Because what's implicit behind Rogan's statement?
01:24:57.043 --> 01:25:00.440
They can justify their immoral behavior because what's implicit behind rogan's statement, this whole depressed worldview?
01:25:00.440 --> 01:25:09.055
It all goes back to the reality of I don't want to believe in god, because if god does exist, then he has laws and I have to obey those laws and if I don't, I'm in trouble.
01:25:09.395 --> 01:25:14.916
That's, that's the implicit thing that's behind all the thing I wish guys would push back on.
01:25:14.916 --> 01:25:17.199
A guy like rogan with is okay job.
01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:25.199
Besides the pelvic issues, exactly what about christianity?
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:28.527
What do you think christianity got wrong, morally speaking?
01:25:28.527 --> 01:25:31.039
Besides, I want to just go and sleep with whoever I want to sleep with.
01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:34.037
I want to be able to watch this on the internet, and not it's.
01:25:34.037 --> 01:25:35.722
It's all about their.
01:25:35.722 --> 01:25:43.731
They're not them not wanting to be held responsible for their actions with with sex.
01:25:43.731 --> 01:25:45.078
I mean, that's all it comes down to.
01:25:45.078 --> 01:25:45.943
It's all of it.
01:25:45.943 --> 01:25:50.622
It's always that, like nobody's telling you, well, you know, the golden rule is morally wrong.
01:25:50.622 --> 01:25:54.742
Nobody's telling you that you know, honor your father or mother is wrong.
01:25:54.742 --> 01:26:02.201
Nobody's telling you that don't steal, don't covet, all those things.
01:26:02.201 --> 01:26:03.185
Like go, go do the 10 commandments with me.
01:26:03.185 --> 01:26:03.988
Tell me which one of these is wrong.
01:26:04.009 --> 01:26:05.314
And the only ones they'll talk about are the sixth and ninth.
01:26:05.314 --> 01:26:06.076
Exactly A hundred percent.
01:26:06.076 --> 01:26:12.074
And that's why, at the end of the day, there's two religions purity or impurity.
01:26:12.074 --> 01:26:25.497
That's all that there is, because every single issue, whether it's the atheist group, the abortion group, the rainbow movement, the sexual you know promiscuity, realm of revolution, all of it, marxism, communism, etc.
01:26:25.497 --> 01:26:34.877
It's all just one big explanation of I have these desires, I want to engage in these desires, and who are you to tell me I can't engage in these desires?
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That's all.
01:26:35.559 --> 01:26:46.671
So many people don't realize that our ladies ever virginity, like her, perpetual virginity is so intertwined with this.
01:26:46.671 --> 01:27:00.115
So I had a Catholic ask me the other day oh, yes, everybody was like, is there some reason that the Catholic faith, faith needs mary to be a perpetual virgin, like if she did have other siblings?
01:27:00.115 --> 01:27:02.681
Is there, is there, you know, is there a problem with that?
01:27:02.681 --> 01:27:15.338
So you, all you have to do is look at the fruits of any christian denomination that doesn't hold mary's perpetual virginity and look at what.
01:27:15.338 --> 01:27:17.465
Look at what they produce, right.
01:27:17.465 --> 01:27:20.641
So you look at even the church in the East and the church in the West.
01:27:20.641 --> 01:27:23.560
Look at the monastic movements that come out of that.
01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:29.381
Right, because Mary's perpetual virginity has something to do, so intertwined with purity.
01:27:29.381 --> 01:27:34.219
It's not that sex is dirty, it's that there's something set apart about Our Lady and she's pure.
01:27:34.219 --> 01:27:46.256
So it led entire groups of people going off to live these lives of purity and it leads to this insane depth of prayer that comes out of both traditions, east and West.
01:27:46.256 --> 01:27:47.921
You get this deep prayer that comes out.
01:27:47.921 --> 01:27:53.911
Then you look at the Protestants who don't hold to Mary's perpetual virginity and you, just you get nothing like that.
01:27:53.911 --> 01:27:56.378
You get this shallow, once saved, always saved.
01:27:56.378 --> 01:27:57.502
This faith alone stuff.
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You don't get any kind of a depth of a spiritual life without Our Lady's Perpetual Virginity.
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It's very intertwined there, like just the symbolism alone of what Our Lady's Perpetual Virginity is.
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Yeah, no, that's a profound statement.
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It reminds me actually.
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So on the Meaning of Catholic Monday morning show.
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We've shifted the show now to being kind of answering the objections of Muslims and Islam and one of the big things that we're talking about we're going to talk about way more in the future and we're going to have definitely some episodes that are going to be off of YouTube.
01:28:28.246 --> 01:28:34.699
So if you guys really want to hit me up and I'll send you guys links and stuff, Rob is at work.
01:28:34.739 --> 01:28:36.203
For anybody wondering where Rob is.
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Rob is at work.
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For anybody wondering where Rob is no-transcript.
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Men are covered up themselves.
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Right, it's this very like modest, sacred looking religion.
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But then you actually go down and you read and you're like oh, by the way, so according to the Quran and the Hadith, every single male when he dies right, if you will, and he's righteous before Allah every single male will get at least two wives when he goes into paradise.
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These two wives, according to the discussions in the quran, will have lovely eyes, large breasts and will be faithful to their husbands and will be perpetual.
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If you will, virgins or virginity will always go back.
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For even more holy men, they'll be able to have 72 virgins.
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Yeah, and if you look into the Arabic, what does 72 mean?
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72 is a euphemistic term that means infinite.
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So what Muhammad made is he made his religion a religion of heaven.
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Is this massive orgy?
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Heaven?
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Is this massive sexual party?
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You look on, you look at his life.
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He says that men are allowed to have up to four wives, but yet he automatically has 12.
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Nothing suspicious there, right?
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And many are underage.
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All these movements, right?
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Whether?
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Go back to what you're talking about.
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They deny our lady's perpetual virginity and this is why saint thomas roasts muhammad in the super country dintilis.
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He's like oh wow, christ promises right, suffering right and death, but a crown of glory hereafter.
01:30:17.408 --> 01:30:22.783
Muhammad promises carnal desires, and moral carnal desires yeah, that's all.
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Yeah, where a catholic would see that union of husband and wife as just like a hint of the ecstasy of heaven, of the ecstasy of the beatific vision.
01:30:34.048 --> 01:30:43.507
But it's not carnal, it's not about having, like, like the, the union of husband and wife is just that ecstasy, is a hint of what eternity will be.
01:30:43.507 --> 01:30:46.239
Um, I got another clip or two.
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Yeah, um, see, guys, we normally would bring this over to locals and do this in locals.
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Um, we're not going to do that, but if, if, you guys can please go and subscribe to our locals, we're going to do one on Friday.
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I don't know what we're talking about.
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Friday Anthony needs to be in New York, so please donate Desperately.
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Let's see what this clip is.
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If that cares about you, you're important to the people around you.
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If we don't think people are important, then what do we think is important?
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I guess that's what.
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I'm saying it's not necessarily that we don't think people are important, but if evolution is real and if there is this constant, is it real?
01:31:23.289 --> 01:31:29.443
I don't know, but it's visible, like you can measure it in certain animals.
01:31:29.443 --> 01:31:35.126
You can measure adaptation, yeah, but there's no evidence that in fact I think we've kind of given up on the idea of evolution.
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The theory of evolution as articulated by Darwin is kind of not true.
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In what sense?
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Normally the most basics.
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So I love that clip because that's kind of.
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I mean, I had an interaction with Dave Gordon recently.
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I've had like the idea that thinking evolution is absurd is not some Protestant fundamentalist idea.
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It's just not.
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The idea that thinking evolution is absurd is not some Protestant fundamentalist idea, it's just not.
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It's like people should question this whole idea, because what is evolution other than an attempt to explain the origins of life?
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It's what it is.
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It's like we all developed from this single celled organism.
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If you ever watch one of those nature documentaries where it tries to explain the evolution of life on earth, it is such nonsense like I tried to watch one recently just to like get a get it and it.
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I was just dumbfounded at how ridiculously stupid it is and how people will watch something like that and accept it on faith.
01:32:38.667 --> 01:32:45.021
Yeah exactly Accept it on faith Because it's coming from the new high priest Of the science community.
01:32:45.021 --> 01:32:49.743
It's so, nuts, this is the new religion and you have some scientists coming and delivering.
01:32:49.743 --> 01:32:52.981
These are the new priests and they're giving you the creation story.
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And it's just.
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I hate watching modern Catholics just uncritically accept this ridiculous story yeah, 100.
01:33:02.725 --> 01:33:12.182
And what's interesting to me is, you know, like a lot of those documentaries when they leave the realm of evolution, they're cool documentaries, right they're, they're shot mostly pretty cool and things like that.
01:33:12.182 --> 01:33:23.167
But all of those guys, all those scientists, will admit, oh yeah, someone had to make this beautiful documentary, oh, but uh, nothing created just wild takes.
01:33:23.247 --> 01:33:42.764
And that's why, when you get back to this, the basics of the evolutionary theory, and you're like, okay, so you're saying you're telling me that all of the observable universe is contained in you know a piece of matter, if you will, smaller than a period on a page, and then out of just nowhere, it's triggered to all the observable universe.
01:33:42.764 --> 01:33:47.019
Okay, well, if that's the case, what sets us off right?
01:33:47.019 --> 01:33:51.475
Every cause, every, every, you know, cause, has to produce a great result.
01:33:51.475 --> 01:33:53.078
The great result is everything.
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Then what is that cause?
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So, to me, I don't understand why results is everything, then what is that cause?
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So, to me, I don't understand why, again, the only reason that they don't want to believe in God is because of pelvic issues.
01:34:05.261 --> 01:34:12.895
Because, like, we could easily say like hey, sure, like okay, uh, I can understand the idea of nothing right being produced, and then there's everything right, but you need something first, and that's God.
01:34:12.895 --> 01:34:14.498
Right, I get that, I believe in that.
01:34:14.498 --> 01:34:17.323
It makes philosophical uh, consistent.
01:34:17.323 --> 01:34:28.117
But uh, yeah, you don't want to accept it because, at the end of the day, you don't want to get married, or you want to keep watching, or you want to hook up with another dude as a dude, right?
01:34:28.136 --> 01:34:34.780
that's the only reason why it always does eventually come and boil down to that, because they say notice that.
01:34:34.820 --> 01:34:39.497
They say well, don't you see, anthony, like animals engage in homosexuality.
01:34:39.618 --> 01:34:47.395
Therefore, it's natural, it's crazy I it's oh man, I'm really, I just the.
01:34:47.395 --> 01:34:53.667
The idea that all of these things are connected, though, has really come into focus for me.
01:34:53.667 --> 01:35:21.724
The alien thing, the transhumanism thing, the like all of it, it's just they're so connected, the the shot during the thing in 2020, like all of it, like they're all just this new religion, and when catholics just go and and act like it's theistic evolution and just like they're not even offering a counter process, they're just going oh, don't deny the sign.
01:35:21.724 --> 01:35:22.787
You just sound stupid.
01:35:22.787 --> 01:35:31.274
When you deny the sign, it's like you're not giving me a rational, coherent way to understand theistic evolution.
01:35:31.274 --> 01:35:34.761
Even like I get that natural selection happens.
01:35:34.761 --> 01:35:48.395
But even even if you read E Michael Jones's book Logos Rising, he really rips evolution Like I think that was the downfall of evolution for me, because he's like okay, so you have this single-celled organism.
01:35:48.515 --> 01:35:49.720
Like how does an eye develop?
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:50.515
Like what?
01:35:50.515 --> 01:35:52.583
You have these light sensitive cells?
01:35:52.583 --> 01:35:53.913
Like how does that become an eye?
01:35:53.913 --> 01:35:57.457
It's ridiculous for nature to select something that doesn't exist.
01:35:57.457 --> 01:35:58.899
You have a single-celled organism.
01:35:58.899 --> 01:36:03.317
How does nature select something else from that single-celled organism?
01:36:03.317 --> 01:36:08.148
There's no way for nature to naturally select something that doesn't exist.
01:36:08.148 --> 01:36:09.658
It just it's incoherent.
01:36:09.658 --> 01:36:10.519
It makes no sense.
01:36:10.519 --> 01:36:23.386
It also shows like a purpose at hand, as if, like the single-celled organism, like the inevitable outcome, would eventually be something conscious that can observe the universe and be aware of itself.
01:36:23.386 --> 01:36:36.286
The idea that the universe created something that would be aware of the universe is so preposterous it's so insane, too, because every single society is religious in some form or fashion.
01:36:36.626 --> 01:36:37.467
They're all religious.
01:36:37.467 --> 01:36:39.117
We all have this desire like.
01:36:39.117 --> 01:36:46.402
One thing that the modernists got right is that they correctly observe that we all have this god-sized hole in our heart.
01:36:46.402 --> 01:36:48.631
Right, that wasn't unique to the modernists.
01:36:48.631 --> 01:36:51.180
Right, they would call it, like your religious sentiments.
01:36:51.180 --> 01:36:53.164
They, everyone, has these religious sentiments.
01:36:53.164 --> 01:36:56.502
The question is the problem with them, though, is they don't give you a good answer.
01:36:56.502 --> 01:36:58.247
The Catholic says, hey.
01:36:58.247 --> 01:37:03.399
When we observe the universe, we see that everything is ordered towards something.
01:37:03.399 --> 01:37:06.367
An eye is ordered to sight, an ear is ordered to hearing.
01:37:06.627 --> 01:37:18.943
Right, everything's ordered for something, and yet we all desire religion all across the world, and we all desire and you see that now, more than you've ever seen it before, because the new atheist movement is falling apart.
01:37:18.943 --> 01:37:25.106
Even that new atheist movement got wrapped up with the woke religion, so they were infighting amongst each other.
01:37:25.106 --> 01:37:29.820
You see religion everywhere now and people that are paying attention see it and it's like oh wait a minute.
01:37:29.820 --> 01:37:34.298
There's something about when you take religion away from people.
01:37:34.298 --> 01:37:40.210
You can't just exist as some kind of a moral society that exists on reason and logic alone.
01:37:40.210 --> 01:37:42.956
No religion is innate, like.
01:37:42.956 --> 01:37:53.083
There's something innate about every human being that needs to know where they came from and that worship, dude, like God made us homo liturgicus.
01:37:53.083 --> 01:37:55.003
Like homo liturgicus.
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There's something about liturgy.
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Even when you watch the, the, the riots in 2020, like the, the kissing of the feed and the, the like.
01:38:04.051 --> 01:38:06.939
This is all religious symbolism, all of it.
01:38:06.939 --> 01:38:09.344
You see george floyd with a halo over his head.
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There's, none of this is by accident.
01:38:11.235 --> 01:38:32.823
This is all just this inescapable truth that religion is innate in humanity and god made us that way yeah, exactly, and I think that's why when you see yeah, like you, you mentioned the riots you see everyone kneeling, everyone's doing physical gestures, right, trying to engage in some type of bodily action and it's very incarnational and catholic.
01:38:32.884 --> 01:38:37.203
It's like ironically right 1000, and that's what's so crazy.
01:38:37.203 --> 01:38:39.740
Because these individuals, it's like.
01:38:39.740 --> 01:38:42.856
I love St Paul's analogy when he says that it's like we're running a race.
01:38:42.856 --> 01:38:52.895
Every single person can relate with what I'm about to say, but I think, especially dudes like we all feel like we're running this race, like we have this goal that we want to reach.
01:38:52.895 --> 01:39:01.657
Maybe we can't even put it into articulate words, but we know that we want to have some type of mission and have a point in our life where we say it was done or like we've reached the goal.
01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:09.966
Atheism can't give you that, because it says you're an accident, by chance, and that there is no ultimate purpose to life aside from what you decide to assign to it.
01:39:09.966 --> 01:39:13.822
And again, this is why people are going to fall back into pelvic issues.
01:39:13.822 --> 01:39:20.903
Or, when you look at something like woodstock, right, you see all of these revolutions, whether it's woodstock or 2020, etc.
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They all are revolving around I have the power to create, right.
01:39:26.300 --> 01:39:29.667
I want to be the one who creates and brings life into this world.
01:39:29.667 --> 01:39:36.046
I am the one who wants to be in charge of this and ultimately, what it is is it's satanic domination of.
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I am God.
01:39:37.088 --> 01:39:40.722
That's what man wants when he's not submitting to God.
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Yeah, yeah, it goes back to that comment earlier.
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Every atheist is carrying around the dead corpse of the God he says he doesn't believe in.
01:39:48.867 --> 01:39:51.100
You know, it's like it's just.
01:39:51.100 --> 01:39:57.801
Religion is inevitable and homo liturgic is just means man, who was made to worship Like God made us that way.
01:39:57.801 --> 01:40:01.565
So, um, my battery on my computer is dying.
01:40:01.565 --> 01:40:03.431
Uh, battery is low.
01:40:03.431 --> 01:40:04.395
You should plug in your device.
01:40:04.395 --> 01:40:05.438
I don't know why it's not plugged in.
01:40:05.438 --> 01:40:06.000
I thought it was.
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.695
But, um, all right, this is a good place to wrap up.
01:40:08.695 --> 01:40:10.180
Nick, it's always fun talking with you.
01:40:10.180 --> 01:40:14.072
Um, we, uh, uh, what are you doing?
01:40:14.072 --> 01:40:17.081
Oh, man, I gotta, we gotta figure out what to do on friday.
01:40:17.081 --> 01:40:17.823
Um, we have no guests, are you doing?
01:40:17.823 --> 01:40:19.287
Oh man, I gotta we gotta figure out what we're doing Friday.
01:40:19.287 --> 01:40:20.171
We have no guests.
01:40:20.211 --> 01:40:20.592
Are you free Friday?
01:40:20.592 --> 01:40:20.653
Or?
01:40:20.653 --> 01:40:22.600
Yeah, I'm free Friday, all right, so we'll probably get you back on Friday.
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:23.820
We'll figure out what we're going to talk about.
01:40:23.820 --> 01:40:27.024
And yeah, guys, please go subscribe to our locals.
01:40:27.024 --> 01:40:32.059
I know, look, we try to do things differently than every other Catholic channel out there.
01:40:32.059 --> 01:40:35.902
We probably try to just have like different kinds of conversations.
01:40:35.902 --> 01:40:36.662
I don't know.
01:40:36.662 --> 01:40:40.104
I mean, a lot of guys are trying to do different things, I guess.
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01:40:57.804 --> 01:40:59.546
Let me see if I can find an outro song.
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I hate not having robin.
01:41:02.270 --> 01:41:05.560
Let me see what we got here.
01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:13.765
Yeah, we went with the off the rails intro because, um, I figured this whole show would be off the rails, but I think it was actually better than I thought it would.
01:41:13.765 --> 01:41:15.640
You know, I thought it would be a little more chaotic.
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:21.221
But, uh, I don't know, I don't wait, he has.
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I don't see an outro.
01:41:23.587 --> 01:41:27.064
Usually we go with all right, we can go with this.
01:41:27.064 --> 01:41:29.060
All right, guys, we will see you on Friday.
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This goes out to all you men out there who are inclined to submit yourself to the lowest faculties in the most pathetic manner.
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You were feminine man.
01:41:37.557 --> 01:41:42.085
Then you were created in order to consume endless amount of pleasure without any consequences.
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Put your damn video games and smartphones down and pick up something heavy.
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Do something arduous for once.
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Pray daily, submit yourself under the interior discipline, learn a trade, buy some land, get married and have lots of kids, so that may you one day raise a generation of virtuous