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So have you checked it out yet? Ero dot net
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a r r o e dot net. Not just a podcast,
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It is an exploration for you, twenty different explorations, one
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of them including vocal dfrag. When was the last time
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that you stopped and asked yourself a question and then
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questioned the answer. It's a lot easier just to ask
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a friend and then when things go wrong, what happens? Right?
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How many times you been there? Vocal dfrag Only on
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Enjoy your exploration. Hey, Arrow, how are you doing today, Kirk?
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I think I'm good. I mean, how do we really know?
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Well, that sounds like a writer right there. It's like,
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give me, give me at least three more minutes. Let
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me put down a paragraph and I'll let you know
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what went what went on inside those words.
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Okay, I'll take it.
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I have three minutes left.
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Hey, I gotta ask you because, first of all, I
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love your book cover. I think it's so approachable and
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so it's it. It makes me inquisitive because I see
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Brad Pitt, but at the same time, because of my age,
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I also see Burt Reynolds there. It's got such a
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movie esque vibe to it that book cover.
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Yeah, well then then you much like me because that's
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me standing there.
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Are you kidding me? Oh my god? That is so awesome.
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I mean, I'm I'm six five ninety. I mean, I
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think we should save some of this for the for
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the for the for the show.
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Oh that we're We're on the show, dude. We when
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you go live, We're live?
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Man?
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Are we live?
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Now?
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I see I'm breathing, So I guess I'm live. I
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know you are too, because I can hear you breathing. Okay,
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So in creating this, what I love about it is
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that you have taken your personal experiences as an investigator
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to a level of story sharing. That's why I even
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created view from the writing instrument on iHeartRadio, is because
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I know that the greatests of our time are here
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on this planet even today.
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Well I think they are. I basically just dropped myself
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on these pages, and that's what seemed to make it
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easy for me to write this.
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So when you say that like that, I mean right,
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because I've been a daily writer for thirty four years.
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I mean is that what this is all about when
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it comes to writing, is that you happen to be
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sharing your stories, and then you realized, wait a second,
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other eyes could actually follow this if I give it
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a little bit of effort.
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That's exactly it. I was working on a TV.
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Show called Jury Duty, yes a few years ago out
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here in Los Angeles, and I was in a jury
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box for you know, eight or nine hours a day,
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pretending to listen to a court case that was completely fabricated.
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So while I was sitting in there, I just decided
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I'd better do something. So I had eleven weeks and
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I just started writing. And I've always been writing every morning.
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I'm a stand up comedian. I've been traveling the world
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for twenty years telling jokes, so every morning I'm scribbling.
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And I used to teach tennis in Beverly Hills, so
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all these stories are kind of based on things I
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came across while teaching tennis in bel Air.
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Let me ask you this question, mister tennis player who's
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six feet five inches tall, how are you reacting to
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the pickleball then, because I mean there's a lot of
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bending down when it comes to that game. And I'm like, Oi,
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I'm feeling my age with pickleball.
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Well, I'm still fighting I'm still fighting pickleball.
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But you know, every every year I go out to
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the Palm Springs.
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There's a tennis tournament out there, and every year they
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bring out some players and we play tennis and exhibition.
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But now they've thrown pickleball into the mix. And I
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get out there once a year and I play pickle ball,
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and I'm still one of the best in.
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The world without even playing. So the pick a ball
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seems to be something. It's just ping pong standing up.
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That's it.
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Arrow, I'm fighting it. I'm fighting.
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I'm fighting pickleball still.
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But for the reason that that basically because you're you're
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you're a tennis player first, is that what you're.
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Saying, I'm fighting it because of the sound.
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Oh my god, you're right about that. You are so right.
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Yeah, Because I mean there's there's been a lot of
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parks that I used to walk through because of the peacefulness,
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and now it's at Pink Pink Pink.
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That's it. I've had friends that have moved out of
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their homes because there's in a state next door where
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they're playing pick a ball every morning.
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We're just losing tennis courts.
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Arrow, Oh, they could put four pickleball courts on a
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tennis court.
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But but here's the thing, Kirk, You're not just losing
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tennis courts. You're losing basketball courts too, because when those
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courts are full, my wife and I go to the
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basketball court, they have to wait until we get off.
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See look at look what's happening there. You're being pushed
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around by a pickleball.
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As a writer, there's got to be a way that
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you can learn from that and put that inside paragraphs.
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Because that's what I love about writing, is that we
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can all take personal experiences and we can make it
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into storylines because you have a way of crafting. You
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know humor, and humor comes from so many different directions,
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and you totally get it.
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I do seem to find a way to turn the
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words and put a smile on someone's face. A buddy
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and I we're writing a movie right now where we're
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part of the sadness comes because a wife is forcing
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a husband to put a pickleball court in their backyard
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instead of a fool he wants. So I'm taking pickleball
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to a new level, no inspiring murder.
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I totally get that. Because we have some friends that
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live in Arizona, and and they they went on to
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social media and they said, guess what we're building? And
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do you know that the majority of the people said,
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you're building a pickle ball court and and and ended
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up being a swimming pool. So I mean, but no, no,
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you're you are You are so in tune with where
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people are right now.
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I try to be I try to be in tune.
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That was something my dad used to He liked that
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word to be in two you'd say, you know, get
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out of bed, standing on your head, take a deep breath,
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and say lod that. He found that his favorite thing was.
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He'd say, isn't it wonderful? And we'd say what, what's
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so wonderful? And he'd say, when we, as Earth planet
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travelers become aware of our relativity with the great universal
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life Force. So his whole life was about, you know,
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being in tune. I grew up in San Diego and
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he was a handyman in La Joya.
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He seemed to be just making people laugh.
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Yeah, yeah, that's where that's where I that's where I
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get it.
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Ero do you live off that laugh?
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Because I've been in a comedy club on that microphone
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with people in there and there's I can't explain what
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what goes through the body when you feel people reacting
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to you and I and I think that's one of
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the reasons why radio is radio. But you don't get
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to see your audience. How do you react to that
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live audience?
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Well, I love the I love the live audience, but
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I seem to enjoy the silence a little more than
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the laughter, right, So I think that's what makes stand
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up easy for me is I don't seem to need
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the laughter as much as just the listening. So I
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do like the laugh, but I seem to enjoy after
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the laugh when they're getting ready for the next one.
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Yep, you know what, you know what you just told
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me though, as a daily writer and as somebody who's
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who believes in creativity, you basically just told me that
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you are what's called a silent watcher. That means that
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you will stand back and watch things, observe it, study it,
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take it in, and then you digest it in ways
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that will affect other people. And that inspires me about you.
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Well, I think you're uh. I think you nailed it
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on the head. I try and hug every audience with
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my words. Yes, I'm not. I'm not handing them jokes
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on a on a rock. I just kind of hand
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it to them on a pillow, and if they want it,
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they can have it. But if they don't, that's okay. Also,
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I don't I don't seem to require the laughter. I
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just kind of want to be up there talking with them.
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Not at them. Yes, oh my god, those are certain.
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Things that to resonate with with my soul. And I
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I put that in Palmdale. Also that I don't know
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if you've read the book.
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I I've got it right here. Oh yes, I have. Oh,
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it is part of my system. I'm going to tell
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you that right now.
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Okay, So I think you can feel me in those words. Well.
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And and the thing about it is, though, and I
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don't want to take you know, and you know a
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chack kind of weird or anything like that. But what
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I love about Palmdale, I'm not gonna lie to you.
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I like the size of the font and I I
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be And and the reason why is because I don't
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have to reach for my readers. I don't have to
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sit there and squint or anything like that. You did
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this book in a way that allows me as the
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reader to be able to enjoy it without being, you know,
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to face obstacles. You made it so simple and and
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and and just so relatable to really take in, and
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I commend you for that.
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Well, thank you, Erro. It's nice to uh to hear
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that you're you're speaking my language. I like everything I try,
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and I don't like clutter, So even in my writing
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or even in whatever makes it a little more digestible,
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that seems to be the way I've lived my life.
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Please did I move? There's more with actor author Kirk
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Fox coming up next. The name of his book Palmdale.
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It is a great summer read. We are back with
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actor and author Kirk Fox. Somewhere along the line, you
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didn't have that for a path to follow? When did
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you realize that, Okay, this is the way I'm gonna walk.
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Because as we age, that's the one thing I love
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about getting older. We become wiser, or we become habitual
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and doing the same damn thing over and over again.
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Well, ero, I think it happened for me eight years
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ago when I created life, When I became a father,
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things seemed to become a little more important to me,
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like just being a good man, and loving and setting
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a good example. I became a better actor eight years ago.
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I became a better listener. Up until then, I was
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really just kind of floating. And I think when I
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created life, things got a little different for me. But
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my whole life I have never required too much. And
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I think I got that from my dad.
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What are you going to do with all of your writing?
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Because that question comes up a lot inside my family.
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They don't know what they're going to do with it.
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And I think I should just put a big hole
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in the ground and just put it all back in
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the earth, because I think that's where writing and creativity
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comes from.
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What are you going to do with yours?
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Well, I like to think, and I was thinking about
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this the other day, and I think we are all
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art and I think the world is a frame. So
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the way I look at it, it is just put
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it up somewhere and then let people decide what it is.
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I don't think you need to bury it in the earth.
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I think it's gonna end up buried anyway, so you.
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Might want to just find a wall to hang it,
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even if it's an essay or a short story or
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even a paragraph. We live in a world now where
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your phone is a museum, post anything. You can post
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anything you want erro It doesn't have to be a novel.
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And what do you do with everything You've done? Whatever
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you want, throw it on a wall and if someone
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walks past it and looks up, they're looking at art.
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Let them decide if it's good or bad.
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Where is your favorite place to meet people?
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Is it on that stage or is it just walking
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through a grocery store and you happen to just bump
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into somebody that just made you smile.
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Oh, I interact with everybody. It's never on stage. You know,
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when you're on stage. But I will tell you this.
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thousand people like three and three like three thousand. So
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I find love, right. It's someone who's having a bad
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I pull up next to policemen and I rolled down
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That's it, that's it, that's so so true. Where can
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people go to find out more about you, mister Kirk Fox?
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reason why I do this for iHeart Radio. Because people
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get the opportunity to hear your voice, to hear your passion,
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to hear your drive, your ability, your willingness, and and
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your extension of a hand that says Hi, And I
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want people to get to know that you.
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They can, you know, they can pick up Palmdale wherever
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books are sold, but they can they can see me
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I was on a show reservation Dogs for the last Yes, Yes,
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and Uh. I played Kenny Boy.
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I was in charge of salvage and meth I was
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the only you know, white guy on this on the
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show's on a reservation in Polta. I'm on a new show,
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uh with Ethan Hawk called The Low Down. I'll be
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You can find me anywhere errow I.
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I had did a special called that Guy a couple
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And you can get a feel for me anywhere.
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is a good way to just spend a few hours
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with me alone in your bed by it, without.
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Please come back to this show anytime in the future,
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because I'm sure Peter's got something to the whole entire
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day plan for you man. And I'm stealing from them,
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and I so apologize to Peter, but man, please come
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back to this show anytime in the future.
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Okay and Arrow, if you need anything from me, you
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can always reach out to me.
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Also, I love it.
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I love it. Will you be brilliant today?
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Okay Kirk, Well, I'm gonna try. I don't want to.
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I don't want to set the bar that high.
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It's worth it when you get there. I trust me,
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it really is worth it, right, rock on, brother,
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Enjoy your exploration. Hey, Arrow, how are you doing today, Kirk?
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I think I'm good. I mean, how do we really know?
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Well, that sounds like a writer right there. It's like,
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give me, give me at least three more minutes. Let
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me put down a paragraph and I'll let you know
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what went what went on inside those words.
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Okay, I'll take it.
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I have three minutes left.
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Hey, I gotta ask you because, first of all, I
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love your book cover. I think it's so approachable and
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so it's it. It makes me inquisitive because I see
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Brad Pitt, but at the same time, because of my age,
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I also see Burt Reynolds there. It's got such a
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movie esque vibe to it that book cover.
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Yeah, well then then you much like me because that's
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me standing there.
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Are you kidding me? Oh my god? That is so awesome.
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I mean, I'm I'm six five ninety. I mean, I
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Oh that we're We're on the show, dude. We when
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you go live, We're live?
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Man?
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Are we live?
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I see I'm breathing, So I guess I'm live. I
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know you are too, because I can hear you breathing. Okay,
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So in creating this, what I love about it is
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that you have taken your personal experiences as an investigator
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to a level of story sharing. That's why I even
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created view from the writing instrument on iHeartRadio, is because
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I know that the greatests of our time are here
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on this planet even today.
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Well I think they are. I basically just dropped myself
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on these pages, and that's what seemed to make it
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easy for me to write this.
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So when you say that like that, I mean right,
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because I've been a daily writer for thirty four years.
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I mean is that what this is all about when
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it comes to writing, is that you happen to be
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sharing your stories, and then you realized, wait a second,
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other eyes could actually follow this if I give it
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a little bit of effort.
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That's exactly it. I was working on a TV.
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Show called Jury Duty, yes a few years ago out
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box for you know, eight or nine hours a day,
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pretending to listen to a court case that was completely fabricated.
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I'm a stand up comedian. I've been traveling the world
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for twenty years telling jokes, so every morning I'm scribbling.
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all these stories are kind of based on things I
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came across while teaching tennis in bel Air.
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Let me ask you this question, mister tennis player who's
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the pickleball then, because I mean there's a lot of
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bending down when it comes to that game. And I'm like, Oi,
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Well, I'm still fighting I'm still fighting pickleball.
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bring out some players and we play tennis and exhibition.
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get out there once a year and I play pickle ball,
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and I'm still one of the best in.
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seems to be something. It's just ping pong standing up.
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Arrow, I'm fighting it. I'm fighting.
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I'm fighting pickleball still.
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you're a tennis player first, is that what you're.
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Oh my god, you're right about that. You are so right.
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parks that I used to walk through because of the peacefulness,
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their homes because there's in a state next door where
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they're playing pick a ball every morning.
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We're just losing tennis courts.
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Arrow, Oh, they could put four pickleball courts on a
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tennis courts. You're losing basketball courts too, because when those
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courts are full, my wife and I go to the
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basketball court, they have to wait until we get off.
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around by a pickleball.
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As a writer, there's got to be a way that
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you can learn from that and put that inside paragraphs.
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can all take personal experiences and we can make it
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into storylines because you have a way of crafting. You
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know humor, and humor comes from so many different directions,
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and you totally get it.
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I do seem to find a way to turn the
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words and put a smile on someone's face. A buddy
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and I we're writing a movie right now where we're
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part of the sadness comes because a wife is forcing
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a husband to put a pickleball court in their backyard
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instead of a fool he wants. So I'm taking pickleball
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to a new level, no inspiring murder.
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I totally get that. Because we have some friends that
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live in Arizona, and and they they went on to
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social media and they said, guess what we're building? And
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do you know that the majority of the people said,
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you're building a pickle ball court and and and ended
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up being a swimming pool. So I mean, but no, no,
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you're you are You are so in tune with where
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I try to be I try to be in tune.
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word to be in two you'd say, you know, get
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out of bed, standing on your head, take a deep breath,
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and say lod that. He found that his favorite thing was.
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so wonderful? And he'd say, when we, as Earth planet
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travelers become aware of our relativity with the great universal
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life Force. So his whole life was about, you know,
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being in tune. I grew up in San Diego and
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he was a handyman in La Joya.
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Ero do you live off that laugh?
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with people in there and there's I can't explain what
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what goes through the body when you feel people reacting
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to you and I and I think that's one of
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the reasons why radio is radio. But you don't get
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to see your audience. How do you react to that
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the laughter, right, So I think that's what makes stand
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the laughter as much as just the listening. So I
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do like the laugh, but I seem to enjoy after
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the laugh when they're getting ready for the next one.
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me though, as a daily writer and as somebody who's
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who believes in creativity, you basically just told me that
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you are what's called a silent watcher. That means that
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you will stand back and watch things, observe it, study it,
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take it in, and then you digest it in ways
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that will affect other people. And that inspires me about you.
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Well, I think you're uh. I think you nailed it
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on the head. I try and hug every audience with
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my words. Yes, I'm not. I'm not handing them jokes
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on a on a rock. I just kind of hand
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it to them on a pillow, and if they want it,
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they can have it. But if they don't, that's okay. Also,
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I don't I don't seem to require the laughter. I
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just kind of want to be up there talking with them.
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Not at them. Yes, oh my god, those are certain.
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I put that in Palmdale. Also that I don't know
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if you've read the book.
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I I've got it right here. Oh yes, I have. Oh,
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it is part of my system. I'm going to tell
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you that right now.
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Okay, So I think you can feel me in those words. Well.
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chack kind of weird or anything like that. But what
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I love about Palmdale, I'm not gonna lie to you.
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I like the size of the font and I I
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be And and the reason why is because I don't
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have to reach for my readers. I don't have to
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sit there and squint or anything like that. You did
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this book in a way that allows me as the
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reader to be able to enjoy it without being, you know,
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to face obstacles. You made it so simple and and
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and and just so relatable to really take in, and
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I commend you for that.
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Well, thank you, Erro. It's nice to uh to hear
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that you're you're speaking my language. I like everything I try,
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and I don't like clutter, So even in my writing
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or even in whatever makes it a little more digestible,
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that seems to be the way I've lived my life.
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Please did I move? There's more with actor author Kirk
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Fox coming up next. The name of his book Palmdale.
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It is a great summer read. We are back with
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actor and author Kirk Fox. Somewhere along the line, you
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didn't have that for a path to follow? When did
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you realize that, Okay, this is the way I'm gonna walk.
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Because as we age, that's the one thing I love
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about getting older. We become wiser, or we become habitual
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and doing the same damn thing over and over again.
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Well, ero, I think it happened for me eight years
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ago when I created life, When I became a father,
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things seemed to become a little more important to me,
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like just being a good man, and loving and setting
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a good example. I became a better actor eight years ago.
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I became a better listener. Up until then, I was
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really just kind of floating. And I think when I
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created life, things got a little different for me. But
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my whole life I have never required too much. And
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I think I got that from my dad.
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What are you going to do with all of your writing?
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Because that question comes up a lot inside my family.
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They don't know what they're going to do with it.
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And I think I should just put a big hole
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in the ground and just put it all back in
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the earth, because I think that's where writing and creativity
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comes from.
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What are you going to do with yours?
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Well, I like to think, and I was thinking about
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this the other day, and I think we are all
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art and I think the world is a frame. So
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the way I look at it, it is just put
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it up somewhere and then let people decide what it is.
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I don't think you need to bury it in the earth.
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I think it's gonna end up buried anyway, so you.
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Might want to just find a wall to hang it,
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even if it's an essay or a short story or
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even a paragraph. We live in a world now where
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your phone is a museum, post anything. You can post
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anything you want erro It doesn't have to be a novel.
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And what do you do with everything You've done? Whatever
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you want, throw it on a wall and if someone
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walks past it and looks up, they're looking at art.
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Let them decide if it's good or bad.
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Where is your favorite place to meet people?
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Is it on that stage or is it just walking
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through a grocery store and you happen to just bump
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into somebody that just made you smile.
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Oh, I interact with everybody. It's never on stage. You know,
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when you're on stage. But I will tell you this.
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You know Mipty Shore at the comedy store. One of
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the last things she said to me was treat three
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thousand people like three and three like three thousand. So
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whenever I go on stage, I'm just treating it as
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as one. Yep, it's just one group that I'm trying
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to connect with. So if I bump into anybody on
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that I say hi to everybody. I can tell when
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I shouldn't say hi to people, and I avoid them.
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And when I'm walking through dangerous areas, I seem to
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know when to not engage people. I was in kind
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of a shady area a month ago. I was doing
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a movie, and as I was walking through this area,
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I realized why nobody was bothering me, and it was
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because I kind of look homeless. I'm always kind of
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I'm kind of always looking like I just woke up
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on the street. But then I realized it's not just
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that I'm homeless. I look like a homeless gentleman with direction,
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and because of that, they seem to say out of
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my way. But I say hi to everybody, or I
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know when to engage. But it's not the stage where
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I find love, right. It's someone who's having a bad
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day and I can feel it, and I just you know,
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I pull up next to policemen and I rolled down
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my window and I say hello.
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That's it, that's it, that's so so true. Where can
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people go to find out more about you, mister Kirk Fox?
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Because A, I love your attitude. You are the very
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reason why I do this for iHeart Radio. Because people
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get the opportunity to hear your voice, to hear your passion,
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to hear your drive, your ability, your willingness, and and
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your extension of a hand that says Hi, And I
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want people to get to know that you.
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Well.
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They can, you know, they can pick up Palmdale wherever
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books are sold, but they can they can see me
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probably whenever they want.
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I was on a show reservation Dogs for the last Yes, Yes,
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and Uh. I played Kenny Boy.
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I was in charge of salvage and meth I was
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the only you know, white guy on this on the
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show's on a reservation in Polta. I'm on a new show,
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uh with Ethan Hawk called The Low Down. I'll be
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on season two of that that's on FX and Uh,
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you know.
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You can find me anywhere errow I.
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I had did a special called that Guy a couple
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of years ago, and I was on Showtime and I
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put that up on YouTube a couple of days ago.
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And you can get a feel for me anywhere.
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But I think this book Palmdale, I think is a
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is a good way to just spend a few hours
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with me alone in your bed by it, without.
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Me in it.
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Please come back to this show anytime in the future,
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because I'm sure Peter's got something to the whole entire
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day plan for you man. And I'm stealing from them,
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and I so apologize to Peter, but man, please come
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back to this show anytime in the future.
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Okay and Arrow, if you need anything from me, you
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can always reach out to me.
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Also, I love it.
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I love it. Will you be brilliant today?
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Okay Kirk, Well, I'm gonna try. I don't want to.
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I don't want to set the bar that high.
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It's worth it when you get there. I trust me,
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it really is worth it, right, rock on, brother,
