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Good morning, Angela. How are you doing today?
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I am blessed and how are you?
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I love it when people say that I am blessed.
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That means you actually walk that path.
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Yeah, I'm still walking and thank God.
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How do you experience the life that you have been
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given as a gift and put it into a book,
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because there's got to be so much more than just
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the pages. I mean, you're so giving in everything that
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you share.
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You know, my life has been shared and given to
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me by the man upstairs. I was taught and caught
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very very well by my incredible mother about the importance
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of give back and give. Honestly, I do care a lot.
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I care about people. I care about people who are
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less fortunate than I. I care about and I pray
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forty five minutes each and every day out of my
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life because I think it's important to include people in
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your life. That you can't be selfish, can't You can't split.
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You can't split who I like and who I dislike.
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Why you disliking someone, Maybe what you need to do
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is understand why you dislike them. You don't have to dislike,
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you have to love, and you have the care. My
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old premise of this book, Really, Before I Let You
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Go is really about It's not about the incredible people
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that I've worked with. It's about that layperson. It's about
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the it's about the incarcerated, it's about the drug addict,
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it's about the domestic violence victims, it's about the HIV
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and age person, people who have given up on their
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own lives. Man and I say that God has given
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us so many chances, and why should we give up
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on them? Because He gives everybody a chance. So I
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wanted to inspire them. I've wanted to educate them. I
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take them through some of the things that some of
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the people that I've worked with and simply say, they
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went through this, and this is what life is. You
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have to keep encouraging them that it gets better. It
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gets better today. It may be very cloudy, tomorrow there
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may be a great deal of sunshine. Wait for tomorrow
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and keep moving progressively forward to reaching your goals.
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Why do you think that is that we tend to
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hold our bad moments inside our hearts when we know
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during good and well, it's too heavy to carry.
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Well Because a lot of times, you know, loneliness is wow.
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Loneliness will do a number to you. It will depress you,
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it doesn't motivate you, it doesn't stimulate you, and sometimes
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you want to feel sorry for yourself because you don't
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have a person there to talk to love. People don't
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understand what a hug is. A hug is everything. Someone
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to talk to is everything. A therapist's job is. Everybody
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will look at a therapist is just Oh, it's somebody
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that's just gonna know. It's somebody that's listening to you,
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and we need to be listened to. Whatever the problem,
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whatever the trial, whatever the tribulation is, and you feel
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like you can't work it out, don't give up on you.
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Go and find somebody to talk to. I mean, in
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this day, I don't know statistically where we're at with suicide,
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but it's deep, and mental health is really deep. And
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so I think eighty percent of my job, if not
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one hundred percent of my job, is being a therapist.
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And my therapist has been my prayers each and every
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single day that I pray. I think that this world
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is in a very strange place, and I think that
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if we just gave a little bit of ourselves and
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people who are less fortunate than will be in a
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better place. I really believe that, man, I really really
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believe that it's so important just to give back, because
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you know what, when I'm laying in that little box
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and it closes, I can't give back. So before I
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let you go, I'm gonna give you what worked for me.
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Let's talk about that prayer and the reason why, because
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I really do put a lot of studies inside my
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own prayer. And it's one of those things where it's
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like we will use our words in prayer. But Angela,
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do you ever just stop and just listen?
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Oh? Absolutely, because I believe listening and the reactions of
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God's work. Oh, it manifests my life. It gives me
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what I need to. I do stop and listen. And
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I've learned with the schedule that I have, I gotta
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have some me time. I gotta have time with myself.
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I gotta let my mind wander. And I gotta be
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very very thankful from where I live and what I eat.
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And I'm thankful particularly when I'm driving around and I
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see people out with eating out of garbage cans and
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no shoes on their feed and drug addicts kneeling down.
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Almost of am I not thankful? I am so thankful.
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And yes, when I'm riding around and I see them
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digging in garbage cans, yes I do pull over, and
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yes I do give them money, and yes I do
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go in my closets and get our clothes. I don't
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take it to the sun at that salvation army. I
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take it to the streets. These are the things that
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I know that I can do. These are the things
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that I'm asking people to do because you're in a
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better place. And don't look down on people. Because the
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drug addicts are alcoholics, don't look down on them. They've
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gone through what they're going through. Helped them to get through.
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You know. The thing for me, like you are great
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as a human being. You're greater because you believe that
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you're great, and then you're going to fight to be
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the greatest of what you need to do. And we
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all employed that we all the great people, we all
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the the greater people, We are the greatest people. Well
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we if we don't believe it, then what is it? Then?
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And share it?
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And so I think that we have to really really
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begin to give back and and and give back. I
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think it's all about giving back.
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You know, do you see yourself as a modern day disciple.
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Because right away, when when I hear you say that,
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when you're when you're meeting with people, you're talking, you're
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sharing things. Right away, I'm thinking, you know, Jesus walked
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around and and he shared to to the people that
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were in horrible pain. I mean, the man with leprosy,
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the lady at the well. I mean, there was so
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much giving to the people that were being ignored, and
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here comes this guy.
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No, man, I'm not a disciple, you know. I am.
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I am truly a child of God. I believe that
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I'm no want again Christian. I'm none of that. I
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just do what I believed God wants me to do.
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And I believe that he wanted me to do the
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book and to reach out to people and let people know, Hey,
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two months ago I went to sing sing and was
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I petrified of going to sing singers. I was very
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petrified of going in. But man, I can't tell you
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I was never greeted by about two hundred brothers. At
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the end, these guys were crying, and I was like,
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because I asked of question, why are you here? How
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many years are you here for? What are you gonna
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do when you get out blah blah, blah blah. You're
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getting your degree or you man that you would have
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thought we were having church in now. You know, everybody
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wants to be loved. The rapists, the murderer, everybody wants
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to be loved. Everybody. Why you Why did you do it?
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Because there's a lack of something somewhere in your life.
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And I just don't think that we need to disappoint them.
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We don't need to be the devil. We need to
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really try to do the work of God and analyze
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and help them through whatever it is. And you know,
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that's why I think we're in the conditions that we're
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in with mental health. People do not take it seriously,
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and they need to take it seriously. They can find
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funds to go all around the world to fight all this.
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It's right here in your backyard. We need to help
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that immediately.
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Don't you believe though, that we all have a mental
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issue And I openly write about that in my daily writing,
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that we all have something. Now the question is let's
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locate it and let's find some solutions.
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I'm with you on that. I am so with you
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on that two hundred percent. I'm with you on that. Yes,
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we all do. And we've got to find someone to
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talk to be out on solutions to the problem. Because
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if there's a problem, there's a solution. Yes, I two
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hundred agree with you on that.
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Please do not move. There's more with Angelo Ellerby coming
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up next. The name of the book is before I
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let you go from Angelo Ellerby. Let's get back to
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the conversation. Let's let's talk about creative people. Sometimes people
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will say, oh, you've got the gift, Oh you've got
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what it takes. But then on what what I learned
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in my studies is sure they've got it, but what
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are they searching for to get it? In other words,
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there a lot of creative people have so much darkness
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that is unspoken.
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That's very true. How do I come back on that one?
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It is and I think that I think that freedom
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becomes the mental mind must be freed of all of
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what you're holding in. I'm finding myself spending time with
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Angelo is so very important and going through the many
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misforss that I've had in my career. It was a
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time when I my office was on Seventh Avenue for
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twenty seven years, and I invested in a movie of
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this star DMX because I was managing him and I
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lost two point five million dollars. I lost. I lost
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everything right, And I said, why is this happening to me?
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And then I had to say, Oh, it's happening to
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you because it's supposed to happen because something that you
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didn't do right. It's like why the Humpty dumpty have
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a great fall? Well, you got to know why you
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feel humpty, and you got to know how you're going
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to get back up humpty. Because that's what I had
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to do. I had to figure it out. How did
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I make this fall in my life? What did I do? Now?
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How am I going to get back up and get
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it back together again? If there's a problem, there's a solution.
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If there's a problem, there's a solution. And I remember
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calling my mother on the phone. My mother was a
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very starch woman. She took no mess from nobody. I said, Ma,
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I've lost all of my money. She said, boy, what
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are you talking about. I'm in the kitchen, I'm making
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my Sunday dinner. I ain't got no time to listen
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to you and your foolishness, I said, Mama. She said, well,
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how did you get it? Didn't you start this business
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in the basement of my house. I said, yes, Ma,
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I did. She said, pack that mess up and go
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find you another place and get it together. I gotta
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go buy quick, and I go wow. But it was
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such an awakening. It's an awakening that. Oh. She gave
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me a chance to get it all together again. God
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gave me a chance to get it all together again. Sure,
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we all fall in a dark hole in our lives,
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but we got to get out of We got to
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come from that. And I think how I came out
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of it is that I really, really my therapist is God. Man.
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I can't tell you how much I'm so thank you.
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I am so full of lengths and appreciation for havingum
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in my life. I don't really get into friends a lot,
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because if you take the word friend and you split
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it in the middle, you got an eend, right, it's right,
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you got the end of a friend. So I trust
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very much in the man upstairs. I can't in this business.
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If you think that everyone's going to be your friend,
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that's not the case. It's not the case at all.
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You have to really friend yourself, and that's what I've
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learned to do for my fifty five fifty six years
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in doing this?
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Did you keep a daily journal?
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Do you know? No? I don't did I I begin
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to do it and then I stopped. But I need to.
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I really need to go back to it, and I
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need to catch up on it because as I grew older,
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I'm not remembering all the things. And the challenge is
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that I had to go through. Somebody asked me, what
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was it yesterday in the interview? How many artists do
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you think you worked for? And then they with we
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must have spent ten minutes going down a list of
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people that I don't I have forgotten about. But yeah,
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I need to go back and journal my life.
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Yeah, because I mean one of the things I really
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do push this forward to a lot of people. First
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of all, I'm very grateful that you've written this book
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before I let you go. And the thing is is
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that you're leaving the story for future generations long after
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you and I have nothing from my parents. I have
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nothing from my grandparents, and so I've been on this
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big cavalcade basically to get people to write.
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Yeah, you know what I'm starting to do, though, I
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should mention this to you. I represent Dion Warwick and
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in the gang and mumble more and a bunch of people. Right,
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I'm starting to have conversations with them, and I let
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them know that I'm recording the conversation. Goodh and they go,
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do what you gotta do, you know, But I'm but
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I'm having conversations. And I said to Miss Work once,
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out and hear it, when God takes me from the air,
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I don't want no big frenerr. I don't want all
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that I create to create me. And then guess, but
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I have a party. I said, but Miss Work, why
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are you telling me that you got two sons? She says,
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you make sure. I want you to make sure that
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you tell them what I told you. And this is
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the way I wanted to go. It's moments like that, man,
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moments when I call her on the phone and I go,
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more friends than we are business partners, were more friends.
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talk to her about everything, and it goes. You can
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talk for hours on the phone and she'll say, baby, baby,
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focused and we're gonna do this thing. You it's you
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gotta have that kind of report. Even with DMX, he
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would cuss me completely out, and then I would say
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to him, Hey, Earl, did you pray today? He said, no, Angelo,
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would you pray with me? And I'll go, yeah, we pray,
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someone to learn by and to go by. I think
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personal growth? Was that? Ooh all about me? What did
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I'm like I'm spending time with Angelo today. I don't
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want to spend time with you today. I want to
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think about what I want to do five years from
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now at sixty eight, I want to think about five
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years from now what I'm going to do. And I
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want my head and my brain to think forward. For me,
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if I'm always on the phone answering your questions, are doing?
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I need this for me. I need to find where
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what I want to do, and always the question is
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to me, and so what do you do next? I
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don't know. I'm still spending time with me, trying to
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find me and what the next levels of my career
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will be.
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I can't talk about tomorrow because I haven't lived tomorrow.
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I can talk about yesterday because I saw yesterday, and
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I can talk about the realness and what's happening today tomorrow. Yeah.
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The only way to slow down time is be present here?
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Just be here?
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Oh? Absolutely, absolutely absolutely I agree again.
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So now this is book could be on audible for
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people who like to drive as well as listen. And
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is it your voice?
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to be Onbley, sir, and it will be my voice.
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I am working now with my ghost writer, Kevin Taylor,
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and that's what we're creating. Man. I just if I'm
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to understand, the consumer will not read, but they will listen, yes,
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and I am. I'm working on a book audible so
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that they would just listen. They can get in their
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cars and listen to it because I think the book
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is just real, not because it's my book, but it
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just talks about giving yourself sometime and helping the next
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person to the next level of their life. I'm working
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on their program in the City of New York now.
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It's an organization called the Rain Organization. And what RAIN
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does educate, stimulate, and motivate the LGBTQUSA communities, particularly young
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kids fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, I think up to twenty one.
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and their fathers, a lot of them can deal with,
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and a lot of them can't, and they throw them
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out of that house. So the only skill that they
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have is to sell their body. And they go in
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the streets and they live in the parks and they
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do all these crazy things. So I'm now studying, I'm
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now studying a precedent with my book to give forty
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percent of the sales of my book after this organization. God,
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because it's what I want to see happen. I don't
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want anyone living in in a park but the animals
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and the trees, that's what lives in the park and
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the benches, not human beings. I want them to go
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to an institution and a place is going to give
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them the daily hubs, a roof over their head, three
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meals a day, a therapist, and a way to find
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themselves in terms of job placement and career. Wow. So yeah,
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the Rain organization is everything to me because it's doing
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everything I've wanted I would like for my I would
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have liked for me to do. But I'm following pursuit
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of what they're already doing. And it's great, it's wonderful.
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It's a wonderful organization.
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You've got to come back to the show anytime in
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the future. We're just we're just barely scratching the surface here.
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Sir, thank you so very much that I really appreciate
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your time well you and you know what, can I
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say this to you? I've done a million and one interviews.
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I'm very intrigued by you. You know what it is.
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It's a godly thing that you have. And I could
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be one hundred percent wrong, but I feel that there's
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a spirit that allows you to do what you do
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and to be comfortable in what you're going to do.
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It's absolutely truth, absolutely truth. God bless you, sir, God
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bless you. Thank you.
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Good morning, Angela. How are you doing today?
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I am blessed and how are you?
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I love it when people say that I am blessed.
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That means you actually walk that path.
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Yeah, I'm still walking and thank God.
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How do you experience the life that you have been
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given as a gift and put it into a book,
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because there's got to be so much more than just
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the pages. I mean, you're so giving in everything that
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you share.
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You know, my life has been shared and given to
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me by the man upstairs. I was taught and caught
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very very well by my incredible mother about the importance
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of give back and give. Honestly, I do care a lot.
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I care about people. I care about people who are
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less fortunate than I. I care about and I pray
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forty five minutes each and every day out of my
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life because I think it's important to include people in
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your life. That you can't be selfish, can't You can't split.
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You can't split who I like and who I dislike.
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Why you disliking someone, Maybe what you need to do
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is understand why you dislike them. You don't have to dislike,
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you have to love, and you have the care. My
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old premise of this book, Really, Before I Let You
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Go is really about It's not about the incredible people
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that I've worked with. It's about that layperson. It's about
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the it's about the incarcerated, it's about the drug addict,
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it's about the domestic violence victims, it's about the HIV
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and age person, people who have given up on their
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own lives. Man and I say that God has given
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us so many chances, and why should we give up
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on them? Because He gives everybody a chance. So I
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wanted to inspire them. I've wanted to educate them. I
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take them through some of the things that some of
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the people that I've worked with and simply say, they
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went through this, and this is what life is. You
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have to keep encouraging them that it gets better. It
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gets better today. It may be very cloudy, tomorrow there
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may be a great deal of sunshine. Wait for tomorrow
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and keep moving progressively forward to reaching your goals.
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hold our bad moments inside our hearts when we know
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during good and well, it's too heavy to carry.
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it doesn't motivate you, it doesn't stimulate you, and sometimes
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you want to feel sorry for yourself because you don't
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have a person there to talk to love. People don't
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understand what a hug is. A hug is everything. Someone
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to talk to is everything. A therapist's job is. Everybody
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will look at a therapist is just Oh, it's somebody
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that's just gonna know. It's somebody that's listening to you,
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and we need to be listened to. Whatever the problem,
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whatever the trial, whatever the tribulation is, and you feel
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like you can't work it out, don't give up on you.
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this day, I don't know statistically where we're at with suicide,
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but it's deep, and mental health is really deep. And
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so I think eighty percent of my job, if not
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one hundred percent of my job, is being a therapist.
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single day that I pray. I think that this world
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is in a very strange place, and I think that
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if we just gave a little bit of ourselves and
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people who are less fortunate than will be in a
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better place. I really believe that, man, I really really
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believe that it's so important just to give back, because
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you know what, when I'm laying in that little box
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and it closes, I can't give back. So before I
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let you go, I'm gonna give you what worked for me.
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own prayer. And it's one of those things where it's
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like we will use our words in prayer. But Angela,
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God's work. Oh, it manifests my life. It gives me
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very very thankful from where I live and what I eat.
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see people out with eating out of garbage cans and
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no shoes on their feed and drug addicts kneeling down.
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Almost of am I not thankful? I am so thankful.
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digging in garbage cans, yes I do pull over, and
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yes I do give them money, and yes I do
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go in my closets and get our clothes. I don't
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take it to the sun at that salvation army. I
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take it to the streets. These are the things that
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I know that I can do. These are the things
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that I'm asking people to do because you're in a
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better place. And don't look down on people. Because the
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drug addicts are alcoholics, don't look down on them. They've
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gone through what they're going through. Helped them to get through.
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as a human being. You're greater because you believe that
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you're great, and then you're going to fight to be
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the greatest of what you need to do. And we
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all employed that we all the great people, we all
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the the greater people, We are the greatest people. Well
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we if we don't believe it, then what is it? Then?
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begin to give back and and and give back. I
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think it's all about giving back.
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when you're when you're meeting with people, you're talking, you're
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sharing things. Right away, I'm thinking, you know, Jesus walked
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around and and he shared to to the people that
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were in horrible pain. I mean, the man with leprosy,
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the lady at the well. I mean, there was so
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much giving to the people that were being ignored, and
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here comes this guy.
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No, man, I'm not a disciple, you know. I am.
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I am truly a child of God. I believe that
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I'm no want again Christian. I'm none of that. I
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just do what I believed God wants me to do.
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book and to reach out to people and let people know, Hey,
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two months ago I went to sing sing and was
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I petrified of going to sing singers. I was very
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petrified of going in. But man, I can't tell you
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I was never greeted by about two hundred brothers. At
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the end, these guys were crying, and I was like,
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because I asked of question, why are you here? How
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many years are you here for? What are you gonna
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do when you get out blah blah, blah blah. You're
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getting your degree or you man that you would have
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thought we were having church in now. You know, everybody
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wants to be loved. The rapists, the murderer, everybody wants
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to be loved. Everybody. Why you Why did you do it?
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Because there's a lack of something somewhere in your life.
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really try to do the work of God and analyze
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and help them through whatever it is. And you know,
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that's why I think we're in the conditions that we're
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in with mental health. People do not take it seriously,
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and they need to take it seriously. They can find
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funds to go all around the world to fight all this.
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It's right here in your backyard. We need to help
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that immediately.
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Don't you believe though, that we all have a mental
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issue And I openly write about that in my daily writing,
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that we all have something. Now the question is let's
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locate it and let's find some solutions.
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I'm with you on that. I am so with you
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on that two hundred percent. I'm with you on that. Yes,
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we all do. And we've got to find someone to
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talk to be out on solutions to the problem. Because
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if there's a problem, there's a solution. Yes, I two
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hundred agree with you on that.
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Please do not move. There's more with Angelo Ellerby coming
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up next. The name of the book is before I
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let you go from Angelo Ellerby. Let's get back to
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the conversation. Let's let's talk about creative people. Sometimes people
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will say, oh, you've got the gift, Oh you've got
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what it takes. But then on what what I learned
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in my studies is sure they've got it, but what
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are they searching for to get it? In other words,
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there a lot of creative people have so much darkness
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that is unspoken.
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That's very true. How do I come back on that one?
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It is and I think that I think that freedom
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becomes the mental mind must be freed of all of
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what you're holding in. I'm finding myself spending time with
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Angelo is so very important and going through the many
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misforss that I've had in my career. It was a
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time when I my office was on Seventh Avenue for
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twenty seven years, and I invested in a movie of
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this star DMX because I was managing him and I
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lost two point five million dollars. I lost. I lost
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everything right, And I said, why is this happening to me?
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you because it's supposed to happen because something that you
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didn't do right. It's like why the Humpty dumpty have
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a great fall? Well, you got to know why you
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feel humpty, and you got to know how you're going
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to get back up humpty. Because that's what I had
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to do. I had to figure it out. How did
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I make this fall in my life? What did I do? Now?
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How am I going to get back up and get
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it back together again? If there's a problem, there's a solution.
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If there's a problem, there's a solution. And I remember
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calling my mother on the phone. My mother was a
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very starch woman. She took no mess from nobody. I said, Ma,
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I've lost all of my money. She said, boy, what
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are you talking about. I'm in the kitchen, I'm making
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my Sunday dinner. I ain't got no time to listen
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to you and your foolishness, I said, Mama. She said, well,
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how did you get it? Didn't you start this business
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in the basement of my house. I said, yes, Ma,
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I did. She said, pack that mess up and go
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find you another place and get it together. I gotta
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go buy quick, and I go wow. But it was
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such an awakening. It's an awakening that. Oh. She gave
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me a chance to get it all together again. God
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gave me a chance to get it all together again. Sure,
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we all fall in a dark hole in our lives,
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but we got to get out of We got to
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come from that. And I think how I came out
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of it is that I really, really my therapist is God. Man.
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I can't tell you how much I'm so thank you.
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I am so full of lengths and appreciation for havingum
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in my life. I don't really get into friends a lot,
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because if you take the word friend and you split
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it in the middle, you got an eend, right, it's right,
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you got the end of a friend. So I trust
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very much in the man upstairs. I can't in this business.
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that's not the case. It's not the case at all.
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You have to really friend yourself, and that's what I've
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learned to do for my fifty five fifty six years
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in doing this?
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Did you keep a daily journal?
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Do you know? No? I don't did I I begin
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to do it and then I stopped. But I need to.
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I really need to go back to it, and I
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need to catch up on it because as I grew older,
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I'm not remembering all the things. And the challenge is
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that I had to go through. Somebody asked me, what
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was it yesterday in the interview? How many artists do
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you think you worked for? And then they with we
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must have spent ten minutes going down a list of
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people that I don't I have forgotten about. But yeah,
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I need to go back and journal my life.
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do push this forward to a lot of people. First
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of all, I'm very grateful that you've written this book
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before I let you go. And the thing is is
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that you're leaving the story for future generations long after
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you and I have nothing from my parents. I have
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nothing from my grandparents, and so I've been on this
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big cavalcade basically to get people to write.
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should mention this to you. I represent Dion Warwick and
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in the gang and mumble more and a bunch of people. Right,
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I'm starting to have conversations with them, and I let
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them know that I'm recording the conversation. Goodh and they go,
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do what you gotta do, you know, But I'm but
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I'm having conversations. And I said to Miss Work once,
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Miss Work, at some time in your life, you're gonna stop.
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What do you wish to do? This is what she
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said to me, she said, And so when I go
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out and hear it, when God takes me from the air,
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I don't want no big frenerr. I don't want all
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that I create to create me. And then guess, but
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I have a party. I said, but Miss Work, why
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are you telling me that you got two sons? She says,
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you make sure. I want you to make sure that
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you tell them what I told you. And this is
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the way I wanted to go. It's moments like that, man,
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moments when I call her on the phone and I go,
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I mean, because I think Miss Work and I have
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more friends than we are business partners, were more friends.
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It's been forty years and I could call up and
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talk to her about everything, and it goes. You can
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talk for hours on the phone and she'll say, baby, baby,
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I just want you to stay focused. I'm gonna stay
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focused and we're gonna do this thing. You it's you
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gotta have that kind of report. Even with DMX, he
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would cuss me completely out, and then I would say
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to him, Hey, Earl, did you pray today? He said, no, Angelo,
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would you pray with me? And I'll go, yeah, we pray,
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and it's I have all this stuff on recordings, and
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I go on and on with everyone because I think
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it's important that we archived and we leave something for
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someone to learn by and to go by. I think
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it's very important.
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I do a thing called vocal defragging where I go
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out and while I'm walking the forest, I ask myself
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the questions and then I question the answers because then
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I can go back and I can see was their
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personal growth? Was that? Ooh all about me? What did
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you learn from this moment? Just by asking yourself the questions?
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Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you know, it's really important that you
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take some investigate of time on your soul, on your mind.
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will not will not do that. I guess as I've
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grown older, I have an appreciation for me time and
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when I tell people, because on Saturdays and Sundays I
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will not answer my phone.
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I'm like I'm spending time with Angelo today. I don't
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want to spend time with you today. I want to
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think about what I want to do five years from
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now at sixty eight, I want to think about five
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years from now what I'm going to do. And I
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want my head and my brain to think forward. For me,
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if I'm always on the phone answering your questions, are doing?
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I need this for me. I need to find where
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what I want to do, and always the question is
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to me, and so what do you do next? I
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don't know. I'm still spending time with me, trying to
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find me and what the next levels of my career
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will be.
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So you believe in the presence of now?
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I can't talk about tomorrow because I haven't lived tomorrow.
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I can talk about yesterday because I saw yesterday, and
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I can talk about the realness and what's happening today tomorrow. Yeah.
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The only way to slow down time is be present here?
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Just be here?
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Oh? Absolutely, absolutely absolutely I agree again.
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So now this is book could be on audible for
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people who like to drive as well as listen. And
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is it your voice?
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to be Onbley, sir, and it will be my voice.
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I am working now with my ghost writer, Kevin Taylor,
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and that's what we're creating. Man. I just if I'm
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to understand, the consumer will not read, but they will listen, yes,
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and I am. I'm working on a book audible so
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that they would just listen. They can get in their
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cars and listen to it because I think the book
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is just real, not because it's my book, but it
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just talks about giving yourself sometime and helping the next
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person to the next level of their life. I'm working
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on their program in the City of New York now.
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It's an organization called the Rain Organization. And what RAIN
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does educate, stimulate, and motivate the LGBTQUSA communities, particularly young
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kids fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, I think up to twenty one.
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and their fathers, a lot of them can deal with,
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and a lot of them can't, and they throw them
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out of that house. So the only skill that they
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have is to sell their body. And they go in
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the streets and they live in the parks and they
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do all these crazy things. So I'm now studying, I'm
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now studying a precedent with my book to give forty
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percent of the sales of my book after this organization. God,
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because it's what I want to see happen. I don't
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want anyone living in in a park but the animals
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and the trees, that's what lives in the park and
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the benches, not human beings. I want them to go
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to an institution and a place is going to give
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them the daily hubs, a roof over their head, three
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meals a day, a therapist, and a way to find
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themselves in terms of job placement and career. Wow. So yeah,
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the Rain organization is everything to me because it's doing
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everything I've wanted I would like for my I would
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have liked for me to do. But I'm following pursuit
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of what they're already doing. And it's great, it's wonderful.
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It's a wonderful organization.
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You've got to come back to the show anytime in
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the future. We're just we're just barely scratching the surface here.
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Sir, thank you so very much that I really appreciate
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your time well you and you know what, can I
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say this to you? I've done a million and one interviews.
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I'm very intrigued by you. You know what it is.
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It's a godly thing that you have. And I could
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be one hundred percent wrong, but I feel that there's
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a spirit that allows you to do what you do
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and to be comfortable in what you're going to do.
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It's absolutely truth, absolutely truth. God bless you, sir, God
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bless you. Thank you.
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Pleasure
