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Shane, how come many people don't have the courage that you have to go out there and get it?
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Go out there and get the answers.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You would think that everything that all the curveballs that life has given you and all it suppressed you so hard that you would be like, Man, this is what it is.
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And I I was supposed to amount to something, but now I now I'm just here.
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This and that.
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What gave you the spark to be like, I'm gonna figure this shit out?
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Survival, straight up, bro.
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Like, I want to survive.
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Some people don't want to survive.
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That's the honest truth.
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Some people just don't want to survive.
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Like, like your body naturally wants to survive.
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Like, if somebody comes in right now and tries to kill you, bro, your your instinct is you're not gonna let you're not gonna just be like, kill me.
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Like, you want to survive.
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I think that's I had a deep like survival, something I wanted to survive.
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I think I think you've always had the internal aspiration of something more, and I think people read that as like that, like you know, motivated, but uh isn't it is it's not?
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I just want to survive.
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I'm tired of being at the bottom, and like I know we're at the bottom, so it's like, how do I get up out of this?
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So that that's been my thing, survival.
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But that survival turned into creation later on in life, you know what I'm saying?
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So then I started to create, Doug.
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Whenever you were inside, were you uh going through like problems and stuff like that?
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What type of like or or were you everybody's home, everybody loved you?
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Yeah, that's a tattoo guy, you know, this and that.
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No, no, it wasn't like that.
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Because I know that you clicked up, obviously, right?
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So explain that to us.
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How was it?
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I mean, so I ran with the Mexicans, I just did what I had to do to survive.
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That's it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, like anybody given those type of situations, unless you're full-fledged, like going for it and want to make it a career.
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Well, you know, whatever.
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That's your choice.
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But me, I I just, you know, like I did what I had to do to survive.
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You're because I'm I'm thinking, your talent, your charisma, you know, you would think that you would go up in the ranks and be like, man, I'm helping my people get out of here, or or something along those lines.
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Or was it like that back then?
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Yeah, you know, crazy story, bro.
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Like, crazy story.
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Like, I've had people prophesy over me, like tell me I was gonna uh lead a lot of people, right?
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To God.
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And I didn't never believe it.
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I've had people like, I've had crazy stories, bro, like where they would tell me like a lady was crying and told me it's you.
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I said, What do you mean it's me?
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She says you.
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She's like, God, show me that you're gonna leave.
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She took off her necklace, gave me her cross, she said, I know who you are.
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Like I've had people tell me, like, I've seen you in dreams.
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I'm like, what do you mean?
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They're like, God told me to tell you, like, you're gonna leave many men.
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Like he, I've had this like encounter like four times over my life, like real encounters.
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Like I had guys tell me, like, I had this one guy, well respected, his name was Tito, pulled up to me when I was like 10 years old.
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And he said, I need to tell you something.
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He's like, You're a kid, you're not gonna understand, but I'm gonna tell it to you like this.
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He said, I got a prophecy from God about you.
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And I said, Damn, for real.
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He said, Yes.
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And he goes, You know what a prophecy is?
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I was like, No, what is that?
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And he said, It means something's gonna happen, and this is God confirming it, but it's it's it's telling something about the future that's gonna happen.
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And I'm letting you know.
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And I'm not saying this to you because, like, oh, it's the right thing to say, or you're you know, whatever.
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I'm I'm in this position.
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He's like, I'm telling you because it got shown to me.
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Wow.
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And he said, and he, and I always remember him.
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I was young, bro.
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I was young, I was a little kid.
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I always remember his name was Tito.
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I could never find him again.
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I went looking for him, I couldn't find him, but I remember he was the first person to tell me it.
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So um I thought, I always question God, I'd bet go back and forth.
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And I will say, say, but my life was handing me all these bad situations.
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I was in prison, you know, I'm doing 13 years, I'm shooting.
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I'm like, I'm like, I don't understand.
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So I thought that one time.
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One time I thought I was supposed to be in prison.
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I said, maybe that's what I'm called to do, right?
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I was like, Yeah, you might, yeah, I could see where that could be.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Maybe I could be young.
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I was like, maybe you want me influential, like in prison.
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I said, okay, so I I I almost accepted it.
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Wow.
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So I said, okay, I'll accept it.
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Right?
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If that's what it is, I can't.
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I one thing about it is you can't escape.
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Like it's it's it's not up to you.
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So whatever God has planned for you, like you're gonna fight, kick, scream, all that shit.
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It's got it it, whatever's handed to you, that's yours.
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But you know what?
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God saw, bro.
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He saw that you know what?
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I think he's ready because he's even able to accept that.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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As as as as a a soldier of mine, yeah.
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And uh as him performing my will, he's even able to accept that.
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When I believe when I feel, man, that you've reached another like.
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That is a good point.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, I never saw it like that.
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Whenever you reach another level in life, I believe God gives you another gift of like a next, you know what I'm saying?
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Like more responsibility, in other words.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Because I thought that happened because like I got jammed up in there.
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So I was gonna, I was looking at another 10 years.
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I'm already doing 13.
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Okay, explain it to me.
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You gotta tell, you gotta tell me that story.
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So the story pretty much was like, I got jammed up, the cops hit us, bunch of shit happened.
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Um, you know, I got caught a bunch of stuff.
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And then um, I thought, like, okay, so with everything that, you know, I had, I was looking at another 10 years.
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How old were how old were you at this point?
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Probably in my 20s or something.
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So I in my head, I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna probably do over 20 years altogether.
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So I was brainwashing myself.
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I was convincing myself, like, okay, like this is your life, this is your life.
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Well, at the same time, though, like I would assume that everybody around you is like, you better convince yourself of that, or else you ain't gonna make it.
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Yeah, you have to.
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Yeah, you have to brainwash yourself.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So I was like taking deep breaths and saying, fuck it, this is my life, right?
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So that's what was making me come up with those um, those ideas, right?
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That that this is my man, because your mind is strong.
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And if you choose to be that way, then you'll just fucking be that way, you know?
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And then crazy thing is that same day, they tell me, go back to my cell, bro, go back to my cell, nothing, and find nothing.
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That's how I knew.
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I was like, okay, that's God.
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There's no way.
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Like, how?
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Like, it just doesn't make sense, you know.
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Was they just jacket and keep it for themselves?
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No, or something.
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No, never touch it.
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Never touch it.
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It was just there still?
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No way.
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That and they had drug dogs, they had cell phone dogs, they had everything.
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So I was like, And then after that, we're like, get this shit out of here.
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I did.
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So that was my clear indicator right there.
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I said, okay, maybe you don't want me in here.
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Like, I'm one of those guys, I'm like, I'm down for the cause.
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I'm that guy.
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Okay.
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Wherever you want me to be, I play.
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So it's like, all right, you want me here?
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I'll go here.
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You want me here?
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But he he's showing no, that don't want you here.
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But he's not telling me where he wants me at.
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So I'm just like, wherever.
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I'm just like, I'm I'm like the guy that's like, hey, you jump off a bridge, you know.
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Your mom says, if you jump off your bridge, you yes, yes, I'm jumping off the bridge too.
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You know, I'm him.
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I'm so I'm very influential.
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Yeah, like so I get influence easy.
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So so he showed me that that's not where I was supposed to be.
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Okay, and that's how it led me up to here.
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Wow.
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Okay, so then at that point, is that the fork in the road?
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That's where it's like, okay.
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No, no, no.
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Still not.
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Still no.
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No, no.
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It's like I'm seeing all these things happen.
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Like, okay, I've been in a prison, I've been in the system since I was 13 years old, right?
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13 to what?
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Uh 30.
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Like, I did a lot of time.
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Like, well, in and out, in and out, and then 13, and then I did, I got out when I was like when it was all said and done, I got out of prison, I was 30 years old, right?
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None about that, nothing about that place fascinates me.
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Like, I don't give a shit about nobody.
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I don't care about nobody, I don't give a fuck who's what.
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Then I've seen it all.
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I've seen all the cartels, seen them, you know, the max one, I've seen all the organization.
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I don't give a shit.
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I see people for people.
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You see what I'm saying?
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And I was fed up with the ideas that were destructive.
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That's what pissed me off.
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So in in a way, I hated them.
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But I I didn't hate them.
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I hated me because they resembled me.
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They resembled us.
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So it's like looking in the mirror.
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It's like looking at your own kind.
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Like, I hate what you stand for, I hate how you think, I hate who you became, but really I hate me.
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You see what I'm saying?
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So I was fed up.
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I hated it.
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I hated it.
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I hated it.
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And I was ready to fight my way out of it.
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I tell my brother that, man.
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You gotta be, um, sometimes you just gotta be like sick and tired of it already.
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Yeah, bro.
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And I think that's probably like you just gotta be sick.
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I was burnt, bro.
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I was burnt out.
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So when I hear gangs and then I'm like, I hate that shit, bro.
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I'll talk down on that shit all day.
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And but I can because I come from it.
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So that's why I talk the way I do, because now it's like I wanna, you know, I don't I don't never want to preach that shit to nobody or tell people that wasn't never none of that was right.
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That was just my life.
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Yeah, that's just my life.
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That was my story.
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I don't, I don't tell people, yeah, go that way.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You you you go that way if you want.
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Hey, I just that's just my I'm just I'm just like telling my story, you know what I'm saying?
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The crazy thing about the South Side, man, in particular where we're from, you know, the those people that were just just getting you.
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Um, people, man, that they were heavy into it, and then those people that had like a foot in and a foot out, and then those people that were around, they'll be like, Hey man, stay away from this shit.
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Yes, bro.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And that's what I really, really loved because me and my brother, we played ball.
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So, you know, people in the block and stuff would be like, This, y'all, you y'all are ball players, bro.
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Like, stay away from this stuff, but at the same time, too, they were close homies, you know, and it was like nothing glamorous about it or anything like that.
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Nothing.
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That's why when you hear that shit or people tell stories, I'm like, in my head, I'm like, man, shut that shit up.
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You know what I'm saying?
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If you if somebody really been there and they was really going, bro, you would hate it.
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Unless, but there's some people that fascinated or like it, whatever, I don't know, for whatever reasons.
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I wasn't him.
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Yeah, I was just stuck.
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I had no choice but to be with you, motherfuckers.
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I didn't I didn't like you.
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I just I had no choice at that point, bro.
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Okay, cool.
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So then you get past that, and then it's like, yo, uh, how much time did you have left?
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When what was that?
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Uh-huh.
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Like three years, maybe supply the gate.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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See, that's what I'm like really fascinated about.
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At this point, how was your your ink game?
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I was getting good.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah, even the cops loved me, bro.
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The cops love me.
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I would do work for them.
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Dad, you have blessed up the cops then?
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No, no, no.
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They tried to, but like they they either somebody talked them out of it or they would say they'll lose their job, or like their wives were like, they were like, I want to get chatted by him, but they were like, You don't do it.
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Just wait till he gets out.
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Oh, for real?
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Yeah, they were like that.
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But the cops are cool, bro.
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Well, where you at, bro?
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Was it like pretty lax, or it was like, nah.
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No, I've always so I won't, and I'm not bragging or nothing.
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Yeah, just telling my story.
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For sure.
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Everybody looking at this shit.
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I don't be looking like, oh, yeah, I'm not super gangster, I'm nothing.
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I just so happen to be on level five and level four yards.
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That's it.
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But that's because explain that to people that don't know they just they just categorize you by where you should be, what prisons you should go to.
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So if you're you know, like uh young, that's uh that's your points go up.
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If you're gang affiliated, your points go up.
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If your charges are violent, your points go up.
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If you're like your points go up, they rack up.
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If you you had all those, yeah, and I I just so happen to have all of them, I'm like, and then they take they take me to yeah, yeah, they take me to level four, and I'm like, check, check, check.
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I'm like, where am I going?
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They take me there.
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I'm like, what the fuck I do when I'm around with a bunch of killers, bro, like grown ass men.
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But um damn, what was that thing?
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Oh yeah, so they take me there and and um yeah, I just so happened to be there.
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So the cops, they love me.
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They they show not not all the time, but for the most part, they I don't know, they would they they like my work.
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They sometimes I would do work for them.
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I would do like bonioles and stuff like that, and then they would give me pins and like food.
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Okay, so so explain to explain this to me.
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When you when you were uh like starting off and when you were kind of getting started, what did people want and what could you provide them?
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And then also too, would you like turn down work too, like fuck that?
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I don't want to do that shit, or or anything like that work in there out here out there, I don't know.
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Yeah, like when you were starting off and stuff like that, was it just you would blast anything and everything?
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Or yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because I know that you have like your your your style and the things that you're like.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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My style's pretty much everybody's style in there.
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Okay, it's pretty normal.
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It's like your basic, like everybody loves it.
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Like if you do portraits or you do something like that, like people they just want good work.
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Gotcha.
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Just black and gray.
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That's it.
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How is it that you're able to knock out portraits so well?
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My eyes, bro, trained them.
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Yes, it's a muscle.
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Your eyes are muscle.
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So I would be able to sit there, I can look at your, I can study your face, look at it, and then transfer it.
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So all I did is like I used my eyes.
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That's it.
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So I got so good at it that out here it was like cake.
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They print it out, you know what I'm saying?
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They got references, they got all these tools, yeah, yeah.
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Dude, the first one, okay.
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So I remember um we met for like 10 minutes, maybe.
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And then I told you, hey man, this is what I'm looking for.
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This is that.
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You were like, all right, cool.
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And then we didn't even talk that much.
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You were like, come back, like in three weeks or something like that, then I'm gonna have a couple of things knocked out.
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So then I go back, and you're like, I got this one, this one, and this one.
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And I'm like, not really feeling those, right?
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And what I loved about this piece uh piece in particular, bro, is we collabed on it, right?
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Yeah, yeah, we did.
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So so you busted out the iPad and you were like, How about something like this?
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And then if you put uh I was like the the clock on her face, I was like, fuck, and you you did that, bro?
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Like in 20 minutes, yeah.
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I just adapt.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I was like, bro, I remember telling you, if you could do that on me right now, I'll get that shit right now.
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You're like, let's go.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, and I think and I tell people, man, my boy, he gets down.
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I said, but I think I I try and get him excited about the work as well.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Explain that to me.
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Getting excited, yeah.
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Like, like is there a difference?
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Like, yeah, yeah.
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Well, it's it's more like, okay, I learned this now, being doing tattoos long enough, is that I learned to not let people take control, right?
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Because I'm I don't want to say like I'm the artist, but but Bro, you got to.
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Well, I think I have to.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like in your hands, like, oh, whatever you think is best, dog.
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Because I I have the ability to see, right?
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So I know.
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So I have to see it before I do it.
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So I I can already see it ahead of time.
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You see what I'm saying?
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I know how it's gonna sit, I know how it's gonna look, I know this and that.
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I asked, okay, so we got this piece, right?
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That we've got to do still.
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And I asked you, hey, should I put this?
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And you were like, Yeah, like you're like, you you're like, and I get it, like it's not gonna, it's not gonna make laughs.
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Most people like they they have the the concept, but when I notice that when they take control, it never turns out good, like I think.
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And then I regret, I was like, damn, I should have said something, or I should have pulled back.
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You know what I'm saying?
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That's what I mean.
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Like, if you like, say you picked artist, right?
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Like, okay, I like his work, then you go, well, you have to kind of there's a trust process, you kind of got to trust a little bit, you know.
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You can't take full control because you could just like tell me what direction, and we'll get there.
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That's it.
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But but you can't like take over, take control.
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And it's not an ego thing.
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It's not like me.
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No, no, no, it's just it's just more like, and I think some people like to fight you just because it's an ego thing.
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Like they they think that you know, you know, like they're right, or so they it's like a macho, like a machissimo, like yeah, no, no.
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It's like, no, it's not that.
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It's just so it'll look the best.
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Like, I want it to look the best.
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Some people fight you tooth and nail, and I have to talk people out of it.
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I'm like, bro, that's not, and they keep saying, I'm like, and then it gets to a point where I'm like, look, if you want that, go somewhere else, bro.
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Because if you want something basic, I don't do that.
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Yeah, and I and this is my business for sure.
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Like, I'm known for my shit.
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So I have to give this.
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So each tattoo is gonna potentially get me another two clients.
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So it's like, if you're not giving me the chance to do my best, then you're limiting me on future clients.
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Not only that, but let's say it comes out.
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Let's say it comes out not so great, right?
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And then somebody sees it, they're like, I seen that dude chains work.
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It was all right on my homies thing, and it looked kind of weird on my own.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Or whatever.
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It's like that thing.
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It's like I take pride in this, is what I do.
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That's good.
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So don't take that from me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Let me create.
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I'm gonna create, I'm an artist.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I'm an artist.
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So, okay, so then, okay, so then you were you said, like, oh man, I could see the gate, right?
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Yeah, explain that to me.
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Were you like excited to get out, do your own thing?
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What were the plans?
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Yes and no, because as I'm getting closer to the gate, is life like, mind you, I don't know nothing.
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I was gonna say, bro, you're like a ghost.
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I don't know anything.
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Your social doesn't have anything on it, yeah.
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No nada, right?
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I'm no, I'm nobody.
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You see what I'm saying?
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So, and what mind you, right before I get out, we had a riot.
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Like, this is real shit.
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We had a riot with the Negros, you know.
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Everybody knows how that they know that lingo.
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They wouldn't let me out, you know what I'm saying?
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And that that's just that's just the way it was.
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I wanted to be out of there so bad, but I didn't I didn't know what I wanted to be out for.
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Sure, right?
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So when I do get out, I'm thinking to myself, finally, right?
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My life's gonna get so much better.
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Oh my god.
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Okay, so what was the plan?
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Tell me the plan right there.
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Like tattoo, of course.
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Okay, you know, just feel like your basic, just be successful.
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Okay, you know, have a family, do all that, you know, be normal.
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Sure.
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Like finally, I can be normal, I can fit in.
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But but one way or another, though, Arizona wasn't still in the plans, right?
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Well, I didn't know.
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You're just gonna dip, right?
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No, no, no, no.
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Okay, it just it kept getting worse.
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It kept getting worse.
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My group of friends, like, okay, mind you, 30.
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We're not kids no more.
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Sure, right?
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So some of these people that grew up, they're not good people, they're horrible people.
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We're not kids anymore.
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Like, we're adults.
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So now this gump, there's murders happening, there's like bad shit.
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This is not like how back in the day, like, oh, we was homeboys and we we just got in trouble.
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No, now it's like just knocked off a store.
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It's like something.
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Now this shit's getting drastic.
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So I said, Oh shit, this shit's getting worse.
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So I had two options.
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Okay, I just did all this time, go back.
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I can go back to prison and possibly do life, or I can die in these streets.
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Those are my only options.
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And I said, nah, you know what?
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Let me see what the world got for me.
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And that's what I did.
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That's awesome.
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I said, I'm gonna see what the world got, and I did.
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So speak to the speak to those those kids, man, you know, and even even adults for that, that that don't mind if I do.
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Yeah, speak to them, bro, and tell them how important your circle is around you.
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Especially in situations like that with a lot of people have a lot of people bringing up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So or that may put them in a bad situation.
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So when it all comes down to it, you're the only one that's gonna pay for your life.
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Straight up.
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So it's like I I don't give, like, even now to this day, I will not let nobody crash me.
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Nobody.
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I don't give a fuck if you my best friend grew up with since we were kids.
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If you want some shit that I don't agree with, fuck what you're talking about.
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Straight up.
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I don't give a shit.
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I'm not ashamed.
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I'm not gonna sit here and play, you know, pussyfoot with you and stroke your ego and hey, we but now fuck that.
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You know, and that's I'm that's because of I I did it.
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I did enough.
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Bro, if you're on some stupid shit, get the fuck away from me.
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I don't care if you're my childhood friend, fuck you.
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You know what I mean?
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You know why?
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Because I take it personal because like you're trying to crash me.
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Like you're gonna crash, bro.
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You want me to be do life in there with you?
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Fuck you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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No, I'm not.
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So I I'm I will speak on it, I'll tell them, I'm not ashamed.
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Like, get that shit away from me.
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And for that matter, too, dog, people that take away your peace.
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Yeah, bro.
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So it's like when it comes down to it, you're the one that's gonna pay.
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So if I'm influenced by your bullshit and what you're thinking, and say you don't got life figured out and you're insecure, you got some fucked up shit in your brain, that's your problem.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You keep that, go, go kick it with motherfuckers that like that shit.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Motherfuckers over here, we're trying to learn, figure it out, and we're trying to progress.
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So I was that guy.
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So if you didn't like me for that, hey, whatever.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, I'm gonna stand on that.
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That's my shit.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I'm not I'm not trying to create enemies, but you know, I've I I'm used to it.
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So if you don't like me for that, then shit, so be it.
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I don't give a shit.
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You know, at the same time, if you just walk yourself out of my life, then yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm trying to figure it out, bro.
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Like, yeah, I don't gotta figure it out.
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The way that you said, bro, we're 30 now.
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Now I'm 38.
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You're 40, bro.
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I'm 40, bro.
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How fast did that go by?
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God damn.
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Bro, honestly, though, I swear, I swear to you.
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I swear to you, bro, I don't feel old.
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I feel younger.
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Doug, how I feel better.
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How often do feelings?
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Oh, I swear to you.
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I tell my brother, how old do you feel?
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I was like, because I don't feel like I look at videos of myself.
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I look better in my 40s than I do in my 30s.
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Bro, I look unhappy, I was out of shape, I was miserable, bro.
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I was not the where I'm at now, I'm light.
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So let me tell you, let me know.
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I'm love.
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Yeah.
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Let me let me ask you this question.
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Are your best days, Shane, in front of you or behind you?
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Bro, I haven't even seen.
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No, no, no.
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Okay.
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Let me see.
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Let me see how I'm a word.
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This are they in front of me?
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No, no.
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Now I understand they're now.
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They're happening now.
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Enjoy the moment.
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Enjoy the moment.
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Yeah.
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Like your best days are every day.
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Because I don't know what tomorrow's gonna bring.
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But if I can feel it and see it right now, hey, it's happening right now.
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And this is one thing I want to say too, because most preachers they preach heaven, right?
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Heaven is a destination, right?
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It's it's when you die.
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It's like giving you a menu saying, Here, you can look at this menu, but you can't have anything until later, until after.
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Okay.
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It doesn't make sense.
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Why are you giving me this menu, right?
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There has to be something.
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I don't believe heaven is when you die.
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I really don't.
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I I'll I'll argue with a preacher, and I think that's bullshit.
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You shouldn't tell people that.
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Heaven's now.
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And people might say, Well, look at this fucked up world we live in.
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Yes, that's the material world.
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Sure.
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That's the physical.
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You can reach heaven and the the the chemical, DMT, pineal gland consciousness is now.
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It's heaven.
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So God's coming back in the mind.
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But okay, think about it.
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You look at a crackhead, you look at a heroin addict, you look at a prostitute, a murderer, a killer.
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What made him that?
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What's the difference between you and him?
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His mind.
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Yeah, that's true.
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His brain.
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So he's essentially he's stuck in his brain.
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If you can get out of your brain, which you can, then you reached heaven.
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Can everybody get out of their brain?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Consciousness.
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It's above the physical, the material.
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That's what I believe.
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So heaven, you can experience heaven.
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What is heaven?
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What does it say in the Bible?
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It's peace.
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It's you and God.
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It's no debt, right?
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Right?
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Well, once you guess what?
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You can find that here now on earth.
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Because say you find consciousness.
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You can't kill my consciousness.
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Like, say this pure, right?
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The guy you're looking at right now, the talking.
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This is consciousness.
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This is me.
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This is my pure form.
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I have no hate towards you.
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I love you.
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Like, this is just pure.
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Just pure me, right?
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Sure.
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Can you kill him?
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No.
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No.
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So essentially you are living forever, right?
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So you can't kill consciousness.
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Um you can feel peace, which you do now.
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You can feel joy, the most uncondeniable joy.
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You can feel those things right now.
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Like when you reach consciousness, your brain releases chemicals.
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And those are your brain never released their life.
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And Shane, those are the intangibles.
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Heaven is now, everybody.
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Yeah, those are the intangibles that people don't realize that those are the most important things.
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Bro, there is no tomorrow.
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There really isn't.
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Who's to say?
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Like and dog, it's now, there's only moments.
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It's like even your past, there's no past either.
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There's no past.
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Bro, there's all it has been is continued moments.
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That's it.
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Continuous moments.
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That's it.
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Like right now, this is all that exists, just this moment.
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Shane, how come many people don't have the courage that you have to go out there and get it?
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Go out there and get the answers.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You would think that everything that all the curveballs that life has given you and all it suppressed you so hard that you would be like, Man, this is what it is.
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And I I was supposed to amount to something, but now I now I'm just here.
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This and that.
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What gave you the spark to be like, I'm gonna figure this shit out?
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Survival, straight up, bro.
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Like, I want to survive.
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Some people don't want to survive.
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That's the honest truth.
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Some people just don't want to survive.
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Like, like your body naturally wants to survive.
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Like, if somebody comes in right now and tries to kill you, bro, your your instinct is you're not gonna let you're not gonna just be like, kill me.
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Like, you want to survive.
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I think that's I had a deep like survival, something I wanted to survive.
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I think I think you've always had the internal aspiration of something more, and I think people read that as like that, like you know, motivated, but uh isn't it is it's not?
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I just want to survive.
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I'm tired of being at the bottom, and like I know we're at the bottom, so it's like, how do I get up out of this?
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So that that's been my thing, survival.
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But that survival turned into creation later on in life, you know what I'm saying?
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So then I started to create, Doug.
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Whenever you were inside, were you uh going through like problems and stuff like that?
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What type of like or or were you everybody's home, everybody loved you?
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Yeah, that's a tattoo guy, you know, this and that.
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No, no, it wasn't like that.
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Because I know that you clicked up, obviously, right?
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So explain that to us.
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How was it?
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I mean, so I ran with the Mexicans, I just did what I had to do to survive.
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That's it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, like anybody given those type of situations, unless you're full-fledged, like going for it and want to make it a career.
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Well, you know, whatever.
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That's your choice.
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But me, I I just, you know, like I did what I had to do to survive.
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You're because I'm I'm thinking, your talent, your charisma, you know, you would think that you would go up in the ranks and be like, man, I'm helping my people get out of here, or or something along those lines.
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Or was it like that back then?
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Yeah, you know, crazy story, bro.
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Like, crazy story.
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Like, I've had people prophesy over me, like tell me I was gonna uh lead a lot of people, right?
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To God.
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And I didn't never believe it.
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I've had people like, I've had crazy stories, bro, like where they would tell me like a lady was crying and told me it's you.
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I said, What do you mean it's me?
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She says you.
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She's like, God, show me that you're gonna leave.
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She took off her necklace, gave me her cross, she said, I know who you are.
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Like I've had people tell me, like, I've seen you in dreams.
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I'm like, what do you mean?
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They're like, God told me to tell you, like, you're gonna leave many men.
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Like he, I've had this like encounter like four times over my life, like real encounters.
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Like I had guys tell me, like, I had this one guy, well respected, his name was Tito, pulled up to me when I was like 10 years old.
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And he said, I need to tell you something.
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He's like, You're a kid, you're not gonna understand, but I'm gonna tell it to you like this.
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He said, I got a prophecy from God about you.
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And I said, Damn, for real.
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He said, Yes.
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And he goes, You know what a prophecy is?
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I was like, No, what is that?
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And he said, It means something's gonna happen, and this is God confirming it, but it's it's it's telling something about the future that's gonna happen.
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And I'm letting you know.
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And I'm not saying this to you because, like, oh, it's the right thing to say, or you're you know, whatever.
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I'm I'm in this position.
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He's like, I'm telling you because it got shown to me.
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Wow.
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And he said, and he, and I always remember him.
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I was young, bro.
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I was young, I was a little kid.
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I always remember his name was Tito.
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I could never find him again.
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I went looking for him, I couldn't find him, but I remember he was the first person to tell me it.
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So um I thought, I always question God, I'd bet go back and forth.
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And I will say, say, but my life was handing me all these bad situations.
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I was in prison, you know, I'm doing 13 years, I'm shooting.
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I'm like, I'm like, I don't understand.
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So I thought that one time.
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One time I thought I was supposed to be in prison.
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I said, maybe that's what I'm called to do, right?
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I was like, Yeah, you might, yeah, I could see where that could be.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Maybe I could be young.
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I was like, maybe you want me influential, like in prison.
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I said, okay, so I I I almost accepted it.
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Wow.
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So I said, okay, I'll accept it.
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Right?
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If that's what it is, I can't.
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I one thing about it is you can't escape.
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Like it's it's it's not up to you.
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So whatever God has planned for you, like you're gonna fight, kick, scream, all that shit.
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It's got it it, whatever's handed to you, that's yours.
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But you know what?
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God saw, bro.
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He saw that you know what?
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I think he's ready because he's even able to accept that.
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Oh, yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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As as as as a a soldier of mine, yeah.
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And uh as him performing my will, he's even able to accept that.
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When I believe when I feel, man, that you've reached another like.
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That is a good point.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, yeah, I never saw it like that.
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Whenever you reach another level in life, I believe God gives you another gift of like a next, you know what I'm saying?
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Like more responsibility, in other words.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Because I thought that happened because like I got jammed up in there.
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So I was gonna, I was looking at another 10 years.
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I'm already doing 13.
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Okay, explain it to me.
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You gotta tell, you gotta tell me that story.
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So the story pretty much was like, I got jammed up, the cops hit us, bunch of shit happened.
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Um, you know, I got caught a bunch of stuff.
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And then um, I thought, like, okay, so with everything that, you know, I had, I was looking at another 10 years.
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How old were how old were you at this point?
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Probably in my 20s or something.
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So I in my head, I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna probably do over 20 years altogether.
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So I was brainwashing myself.
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I was convincing myself, like, okay, like this is your life, this is your life.
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Well, at the same time, though, like I would assume that everybody around you is like, you better convince yourself of that, or else you ain't gonna make it.
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Yeah, you have to.
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Yeah, you have to brainwash yourself.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So I was like taking deep breaths and saying, fuck it, this is my life, right?
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So that's what was making me come up with those um, those ideas, right?
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That that this is my man, because your mind is strong.
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And if you choose to be that way, then you'll just fucking be that way, you know?
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And then crazy thing is that same day, they tell me, go back to my cell, bro, go back to my cell, nothing, and find nothing.
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That's how I knew.
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I was like, okay, that's God.
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There's no way.
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Like, how?
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Like, it just doesn't make sense, you know.
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Was they just jacket and keep it for themselves?
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No, or something.
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No, never touch it.
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Never touch it.
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It was just there still?
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No way.
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That and they had drug dogs, they had cell phone dogs, they had everything.
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So I was like, And then after that, we're like, get this shit out of here.
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I did.
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So that was my clear indicator right there.
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I said, okay, maybe you don't want me in here.
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Like, I'm one of those guys, I'm like, I'm down for the cause.
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I'm that guy.
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Okay.
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Wherever you want me to be, I play.
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So it's like, all right, you want me here?
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I'll go here.
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You want me here?
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But he he's showing no, that don't want you here.
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But he's not telling me where he wants me at.
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So I'm just like, wherever.
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I'm just like, I'm I'm like the guy that's like, hey, you jump off a bridge, you know.
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Your mom says, if you jump off your bridge, you yes, yes, I'm jumping off the bridge too.
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You know, I'm him.
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I'm so I'm very influential.
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Yeah, like so I get influence easy.
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So so he showed me that that's not where I was supposed to be.
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Okay, and that's how it led me up to here.
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Wow.
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Okay, so then at that point, is that the fork in the road?
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That's where it's like, okay.
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No, no, no.
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Still not.
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Still no.
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No, no.
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It's like I'm seeing all these things happen.
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Like, okay, I've been in a prison, I've been in the system since I was 13 years old, right?
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13 to what?
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Uh 30.
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Like, I did a lot of time.
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Like, well, in and out, in and out, and then 13, and then I did, I got out when I was like when it was all said and done, I got out of prison, I was 30 years old, right?
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None about that, nothing about that place fascinates me.
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Like, I don't give a shit about nobody.
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I don't care about nobody, I don't give a fuck who's what.
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Then I've seen it all.
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I've seen all the cartels, seen them, you know, the max one, I've seen all the organization.
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I don't give a shit.
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I see people for people.
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You see what I'm saying?
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And I was fed up with the ideas that were destructive.
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That's what pissed me off.
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So in in a way, I hated them.
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But I I didn't hate them.
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I hated me because they resembled me.
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They resembled us.
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So it's like looking in the mirror.
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It's like looking at your own kind.
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Like, I hate what you stand for, I hate how you think, I hate who you became, but really I hate me.
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You see what I'm saying?
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So I was fed up.
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I hated it.
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I hated it.
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I hated it.
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And I was ready to fight my way out of it.
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I tell my brother that, man.
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You gotta be, um, sometimes you just gotta be like sick and tired of it already.
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Yeah, bro.
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And I think that's probably like you just gotta be sick.
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I was burnt, bro.
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I was burnt out.
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So when I hear gangs and then I'm like, I hate that shit, bro.
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I'll talk down on that shit all day.
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And but I can because I come from it.
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So that's why I talk the way I do, because now it's like I wanna, you know, I don't I don't never want to preach that shit to nobody or tell people that wasn't never none of that was right.
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That was just my life.
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Yeah, that's just my life.
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That was my story.
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I don't, I don't tell people, yeah, go that way.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You you you go that way if you want.
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Hey, I just that's just my I'm just I'm just like telling my story, you know what I'm saying?
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The crazy thing about the South Side, man, in particular where we're from, you know, the those people that were just just getting you.
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Um, people, man, that they were heavy into it, and then those people that had like a foot in and a foot out, and then those people that were around, they'll be like, Hey man, stay away from this shit.
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Yes, bro.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And that's what I really, really loved because me and my brother, we played ball.
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So, you know, people in the block and stuff would be like, This, y'all, you y'all are ball players, bro.
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Like, stay away from this stuff, but at the same time, too, they were close homies, you know, and it was like nothing glamorous about it or anything like that.
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Nothing.
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That's why when you hear that shit or people tell stories, I'm like, in my head, I'm like, man, shut that shit up.
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You know what I'm saying?
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If you if somebody really been there and they was really going, bro, you would hate it.
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Unless, but there's some people that fascinated or like it, whatever, I don't know, for whatever reasons.
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I wasn't him.
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Yeah, I was just stuck.
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I had no choice but to be with you, motherfuckers.
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I didn't I didn't like you.
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I just I had no choice at that point, bro.
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Okay, cool.
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So then you get past that, and then it's like, yo, uh, how much time did you have left?
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When what was that?
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Uh-huh.
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Like three years, maybe supply the gate.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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See, that's what I'm like really fascinated about.
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At this point, how was your your ink game?
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I was getting good.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah, even the cops loved me, bro.
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The cops love me.
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I would do work for them.
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Dad, you have blessed up the cops then?
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No, no, no.
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They tried to, but like they they either somebody talked them out of it or they would say they'll lose their job, or like their wives were like, they were like, I want to get chatted by him, but they were like, You don't do it.
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Just wait till he gets out.
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Oh, for real?
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Yeah, they were like that.
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But the cops are cool, bro.
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Well, where you at, bro?
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Was it like pretty lax, or it was like, nah.
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No, I've always so I won't, and I'm not bragging or nothing.
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Yeah, just telling my story.
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For sure.
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Everybody looking at this shit.
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I don't be looking like, oh, yeah, I'm not super gangster, I'm nothing.
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I just so happen to be on level five and level four yards.
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That's it.
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But that's because explain that to people that don't know they just they just categorize you by where you should be, what prisons you should go to.
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So if you're you know, like uh young, that's uh that's your points go up.
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If you're gang affiliated, your points go up.
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If your charges are violent, your points go up.
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If you're like your points go up, they rack up.
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If you you had all those, yeah, and I I just so happen to have all of them, I'm like, and then they take they take me to yeah, yeah, they take me to level four, and I'm like, check, check, check.
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I'm like, where am I going?
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They take me there.
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I'm like, what the fuck I do when I'm around with a bunch of killers, bro, like grown ass men.
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But um damn, what was that thing?
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Oh yeah, so they take me there and and um yeah, I just so happened to be there.
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So the cops, they love me.
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They they show not not all the time, but for the most part, they I don't know, they would they they like my work.
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They sometimes I would do work for them.
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I would do like bonioles and stuff like that, and then they would give me pins and like food.
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Okay, so so explain to explain this to me.
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When you when you were uh like starting off and when you were kind of getting started, what did people want and what could you provide them?
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And then also too, would you like turn down work too, like fuck that?
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I don't want to do that shit, or or anything like that work in there out here out there, I don't know.
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Yeah, like when you were starting off and stuff like that, was it just you would blast anything and everything?
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Or yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Because I know that you have like your your your style and the things that you're like.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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My style's pretty much everybody's style in there.
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Okay, it's pretty normal.
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It's like your basic, like everybody loves it.
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Like if you do portraits or you do something like that, like people they just want good work.
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Gotcha.
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Just black and gray.
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That's it.
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How is it that you're able to knock out portraits so well?
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My eyes, bro, trained them.
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Yes, it's a muscle.
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Your eyes are muscle.
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So I would be able to sit there, I can look at your, I can study your face, look at it, and then transfer it.
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So all I did is like I used my eyes.
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That's it.
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So I got so good at it that out here it was like cake.
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They print it out, you know what I'm saying?
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They got references, they got all these tools, yeah, yeah.
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Dude, the first one, okay.
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So I remember um we met for like 10 minutes, maybe.
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And then I told you, hey man, this is what I'm looking for.
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This is that.
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You were like, all right, cool.
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And then we didn't even talk that much.
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You were like, come back, like in three weeks or something like that, then I'm gonna have a couple of things knocked out.
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So then I go back, and you're like, I got this one, this one, and this one.
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And I'm like, not really feeling those, right?
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And what I loved about this piece uh piece in particular, bro, is we collabed on it, right?
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Yeah, yeah, we did.
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So so you busted out the iPad and you were like, How about something like this?
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And then if you put uh I was like the the clock on her face, I was like, fuck, and you you did that, bro?
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Like in 20 minutes, yeah.
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I just adapt.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I was like, bro, I remember telling you, if you could do that on me right now, I'll get that shit right now.
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You're like, let's go.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, and I think and I tell people, man, my boy, he gets down.
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I said, but I think I I try and get him excited about the work as well.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Explain that to me.
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Getting excited, yeah.
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Like, like is there a difference?
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Like, yeah, yeah.
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Well, it's it's more like, okay, I learned this now, being doing tattoos long enough, is that I learned to not let people take control, right?
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Because I'm I don't want to say like I'm the artist, but but Bro, you got to.
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Well, I think I have to.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like in your hands, like, oh, whatever you think is best, dog.
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Because I I have the ability to see, right?
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So I know.
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So I have to see it before I do it.
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So I I can already see it ahead of time.
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You see what I'm saying?
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I know how it's gonna sit, I know how it's gonna look, I know this and that.
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I asked, okay, so we got this piece, right?
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That we've got to do still.
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And I asked you, hey, should I put this?
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And you were like, Yeah, like you're like, you you're like, and I get it, like it's not gonna, it's not gonna make laughs.
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Most people like they they have the the concept, but when I notice that when they take control, it never turns out good, like I think.
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And then I regret, I was like, damn, I should have said something, or I should have pulled back.
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You know what I'm saying?
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That's what I mean.
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Like, if you like, say you picked artist, right?
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Like, okay, I like his work, then you go, well, you have to kind of there's a trust process, you kind of got to trust a little bit, you know.
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You can't take full control because you could just like tell me what direction, and we'll get there.
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That's it.
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But but you can't like take over, take control.
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And it's not an ego thing.
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It's not like me.
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No, no, no, it's just it's just more like, and I think some people like to fight you just because it's an ego thing.
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Like they they think that you know, you know, like they're right, or so they it's like a macho, like a machissimo, like yeah, no, no.
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It's like, no, it's not that.
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It's just so it'll look the best.
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Like, I want it to look the best.
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Some people fight you tooth and nail, and I have to talk people out of it.
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I'm like, bro, that's not, and they keep saying, I'm like, and then it gets to a point where I'm like, look, if you want that, go somewhere else, bro.
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Because if you want something basic, I don't do that.
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Yeah, and I and this is my business for sure.
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Like, I'm known for my shit.
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So I have to give this.
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So each tattoo is gonna potentially get me another two clients.
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So it's like, if you're not giving me the chance to do my best, then you're limiting me on future clients.
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Not only that, but let's say it comes out.
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Let's say it comes out not so great, right?
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And then somebody sees it, they're like, I seen that dude chains work.
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It was all right on my homies thing, and it looked kind of weird on my own.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Or whatever.
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It's like that thing.
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It's like I take pride in this, is what I do.
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That's good.
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So don't take that from me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Let me create.
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I'm gonna create, I'm an artist.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I'm an artist.
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So, okay, so then, okay, so then you were you said, like, oh man, I could see the gate, right?
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Yeah, explain that to me.
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Were you like excited to get out, do your own thing?
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What were the plans?
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Yes and no, because as I'm getting closer to the gate, is life like, mind you, I don't know nothing.
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I was gonna say, bro, you're like a ghost.
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I don't know anything.
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Your social doesn't have anything on it, yeah.
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No nada, right?
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I'm no, I'm nobody.
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You see what I'm saying?
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So, and what mind you, right before I get out, we had a riot.
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Like, this is real shit.
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We had a riot with the Negros, you know.
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Everybody knows how that they know that lingo.
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They wouldn't let me out, you know what I'm saying?
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And that that's just that's just the way it was.
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I wanted to be out of there so bad, but I didn't I didn't know what I wanted to be out for.
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Sure, right?
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So when I do get out, I'm thinking to myself, finally, right?
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My life's gonna get so much better.
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Oh my god.
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Okay, so what was the plan?
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Tell me the plan right there.
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Like tattoo, of course.
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Okay, you know, just feel like your basic, just be successful.
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Okay, you know, have a family, do all that, you know, be normal.
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Sure.
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Like finally, I can be normal, I can fit in.
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But but one way or another, though, Arizona wasn't still in the plans, right?
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Well, I didn't know.
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You're just gonna dip, right?
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No, no, no, no.
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Okay, it just it kept getting worse.
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It kept getting worse.
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My group of friends, like, okay, mind you, 30.
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We're not kids no more.
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Sure, right?
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So some of these people that grew up, they're not good people, they're horrible people.
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We're not kids anymore.
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Like, we're adults.
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So now this gump, there's murders happening, there's like bad shit.
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This is not like how back in the day, like, oh, we was homeboys and we we just got in trouble.
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No, now it's like just knocked off a store.
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It's like something.
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Now this shit's getting drastic.
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So I said, Oh shit, this shit's getting worse.
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So I had two options.
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Okay, I just did all this time, go back.
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I can go back to prison and possibly do life, or I can die in these streets.
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Those are my only options.
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And I said, nah, you know what?
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Let me see what the world got for me.
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And that's what I did.
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That's awesome.
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I said, I'm gonna see what the world got, and I did.
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So speak to the speak to those those kids, man, you know, and even even adults for that, that that don't mind if I do.
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Yeah, speak to them, bro, and tell them how important your circle is around you.
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Especially in situations like that with a lot of people have a lot of people bringing up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So or that may put them in a bad situation.
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So when it all comes down to it, you're the only one that's gonna pay for your life.
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Straight up.
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So it's like I I don't give, like, even now to this day, I will not let nobody crash me.
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Nobody.
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I don't give a fuck if you my best friend grew up with since we were kids.
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If you want some shit that I don't agree with, fuck what you're talking about.
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Straight up.
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I don't give a shit.
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I'm not ashamed.
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I'm not gonna sit here and play, you know, pussyfoot with you and stroke your ego and hey, we but now fuck that.
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You know, and that's I'm that's because of I I did it.
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I did enough.
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Bro, if you're on some stupid shit, get the fuck away from me.
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I don't care if you're my childhood friend, fuck you.
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You know what I mean?
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You know why?
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Because I take it personal because like you're trying to crash me.
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Like you're gonna crash, bro.
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You want me to be do life in there with you?
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Fuck you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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No, I'm not.
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So I I'm I will speak on it, I'll tell them, I'm not ashamed.
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Like, get that shit away from me.
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And for that matter, too, dog, people that take away your peace.
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Yeah, bro.
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So it's like when it comes down to it, you're the one that's gonna pay.
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So if I'm influenced by your bullshit and what you're thinking, and say you don't got life figured out and you're insecure, you got some fucked up shit in your brain, that's your problem.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You keep that, go, go kick it with motherfuckers that like that shit.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Motherfuckers over here, we're trying to learn, figure it out, and we're trying to progress.
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So I was that guy.
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So if you didn't like me for that, hey, whatever.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, I'm gonna stand on that.
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That's my shit.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, I'm not I'm not trying to create enemies, but you know, I've I I'm used to it.
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So if you don't like me for that, then shit, so be it.
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I don't give a shit.
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You know, at the same time, if you just walk yourself out of my life, then yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm trying to figure it out, bro.
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Like, yeah, I don't gotta figure it out.
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The way that you said, bro, we're 30 now.
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Now I'm 38.
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You're 40, bro.
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I'm 40, bro.
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How fast did that go by?
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God damn.
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Bro, honestly, though, I swear, I swear to you.
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I swear to you, bro, I don't feel old.
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I feel younger.
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Doug, how I feel better.
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How often do feelings?
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Oh, I swear to you.
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I tell my brother, how old do you feel?
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I was like, because I don't feel like I look at videos of myself.
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I look better in my 40s than I do in my 30s.
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Bro, I look unhappy, I was out of shape, I was miserable, bro.
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I was not the where I'm at now, I'm light.
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So let me tell you, let me know.
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I'm love.
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Yeah.
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Let me let me ask you this question.
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Are your best days, Shane, in front of you or behind you?
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Bro, I haven't even seen.
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No, no, no.
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Okay.
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Let me see.
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Let me see how I'm a word.
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This are they in front of me?
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No, no.
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Now I understand they're now.
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They're happening now.
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Enjoy the moment.
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Enjoy the moment.
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Yeah.
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Like your best days are every day.
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Because I don't know what tomorrow's gonna bring.
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But if I can feel it and see it right now, hey, it's happening right now.
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And this is one thing I want to say too, because most preachers they preach heaven, right?
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Heaven is a destination, right?
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It's it's when you die.
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It's like giving you a menu saying, Here, you can look at this menu, but you can't have anything until later, until after.
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Okay.
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It doesn't make sense.
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Why are you giving me this menu, right?
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There has to be something.
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I don't believe heaven is when you die.
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I really don't.
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I I'll I'll argue with a preacher, and I think that's bullshit.
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You shouldn't tell people that.
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Heaven's now.
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And people might say, Well, look at this fucked up world we live in.
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Yes, that's the material world.
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Sure.
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That's the physical.
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You can reach heaven and the the the chemical, DMT, pineal gland consciousness is now.
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It's heaven.
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So God's coming back in the mind.
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But okay, think about it.
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You look at a crackhead, you look at a heroin addict, you look at a prostitute, a murderer, a killer.
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What made him that?
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What's the difference between you and him?
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His mind.
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Yeah, that's true.
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His brain.
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So he's essentially he's stuck in his brain.
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If you can get out of your brain, which you can, then you reached heaven.
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Can everybody get out of their brain?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Consciousness.
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It's above the physical, the material.
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That's what I believe.
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So heaven, you can experience heaven.
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What is heaven?
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What does it say in the Bible?
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It's peace.
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It's you and God.
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It's no debt, right?
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Right?
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Well, once you guess what?
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You can find that here now on earth.
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Because say you find consciousness.
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You can't kill my consciousness.
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Like, say this pure, right?
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The guy you're looking at right now, the talking.
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This is consciousness.
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This is me.
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This is my pure form.
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I have no hate towards you.
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I love you.
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Like, this is just pure.
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Just pure me, right?
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Sure.
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Can you kill him?
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No.
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No.
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So essentially you are living forever, right?
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So you can't kill consciousness.
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Um you can feel peace, which you do now.
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You can feel joy, the most uncondeniable joy.
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You can feel those things right now.
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Like when you reach consciousness, your brain releases chemicals.
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And those are your brain never released their life.
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And Shane, those are the intangibles.
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Heaven is now, everybody.
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Yeah, those are the intangibles that people don't realize that those are the most important things.
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Bro, there is no tomorrow.
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There really isn't.
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Who's to say?
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Like and dog, it's now, there's only moments.
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It's like even your past, there's no past either.
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There's no past.
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Bro, there's all it has been is continued moments.
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That's it.
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Continuous moments.
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That's it.
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Like right now, this is all that exists, just this moment.
