ABOUT THIS EPISODE
In Season 2, Episode 17 of Alone with Peter Board-Certified Physical Therapist Dr. Dan Maggio gives actionable, practical tips for increasing your mobility, improving your overall health, and recovering from injuries and chronic pain caused in daily life.
We also chat about Dan's entrepreneurial journey and some of the relatable obstacles he is trying to hurdle in his business pursuits.
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Please enjoy part 3 of our interview with board-certified physical therapist Dr. Dan Maggio*Transcripts may contain a few typos. With interviews ranging from 1-2 hours, it can be difficult to catch minor errors.
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Peter Kersting: Welcome back to our final part of this interview with Dr. Dan Maggio. If you didn't tune in last time, please check out the episode. We talked about how your neurobiology, your immune system, the way that you think about and spend your awareness on your injuries can actually affect how you recover. Talked a little bit also about Dan's background, why it was that he decided to go into physical therapy. And I'm really excited today on this episode to be talking about Dan's entrepreneurial goals. So not only does he work as a physical therapist in a clinic, but he is also working towards his own clinical endeavors. And so I wanna touch a little bit more on how Dan is pursuing those entrepreneurial goals, what his next steps are, what some of those obstacles he has been encountering are, and also how you can take some actionable steps to deal with any kind of pain you're dealing with, whether you're out on the road and you don't have access to a gym or something else, we're gonna be talking about all that on this episode. So without further ado, we're back with Dan, Dan, you ready, dude?
Peter Kersting: Ready? Yeah, let's do it.
Peter Kersting: Sweet. So you mentioned earlier that you've been quietly working on a shift to starting your own practice. Can you give us a little bit of an insight to what that looks like?
Peter Kersting: Yeah. I mean, right now the idea is hustle, hustle, hustled, right? So anytime that I'm not in the full time clinic, I'm trying to meet people outside of work and outside of the clinic space and just, Hey, if they need help, I'll be happy to meet you at your house or at a space that I'm renting. I'll help you out. I'll see you for whatever injuries things you want to come back from. It's challenged because I think right now, a lot of it's just based on word of mouth. And just the time that I have outside of work is, is pretty limited. And I think the goal right is to just be able to one day have that side income replace the full income, and then just jump ship into that side project.
Peter Kersting: How have you been approaching that shift because you work a lot in your main job, how do you find the time and, and how do you ramp that up?
Peter Kersting: oh man. The ramping up, that's where I have a struggle. Because I know eventually there's gonna be a day where it's just a jumping off point, right? Like the hours that I have full time in the clinic practice, um, they're gonna be taken away from whatever I do in my own project. And you know, I, I'm not sure the timeline on that. I haven't sure it's, I'm gonna have to run some more numbers, but
Peter Kersting: Well, I ask because I think it's a very relatable problem. If you wanna call it a problem. I think for anybody, who's trying to make a shift in what they're doing. Not that you don't find what you're doing meaningful, but you have a deeper desire to do something that you have more control of, more ownership of. And so I just wonder how do you know, uh, how do you know wanna stop? You know, people talk about having an exit strategy. I listen to another voice actor and he's also a business and marketing coach. His name is Mark Scott. He has his own podcast, which is really specifically geared towards voice actors. And I love it because I learned so much from the guy, but one of the things he talks about is do you have an exit strategy? And if you don't, how are you ever gonna go? Full-time if you wanna go full-time. And so it's, you gotta ask yourself some of those kind of questions. I'm not saying you have to have an answer for me right now, but I'm just curious to know, do you have some kind of preexisting condition that needs to be met before, you know, okay. I'm willing to jump in and what is it?
Peter Kersting: That's a great question. And I think selfishly, I would feel comfortable and this, you know, it's one of those irrational fears and irrational thoughts that like I'm gonna have a brick and mortar place that's fully furnished that I'm gonna jump full ship into or full steam ahead. Right. I think the things that I would really like to have would be some pieces of equipment that I find value in to treat patients with in a brick and mortar setting. Right. Like, I, I know that I could probably do it with a couple bands and a couple kettle bells and lightweights. Right. Um, and that's what I'm kind of doing right now, but for me to jump, I think full Bo ahead, I, I wanna build it, I think from the ground up and with, with the tools that I think are, I dunno how to say it, like, uh, the tools that I think are gonna get people, the results that they need.
Peter Kersting: Sure. Well, if you know, it sounds like you have a clear idea of what some of those things are. Have you been able to, and I'm not, like I said again, I'm not asking these questions to, to put you on the fence. I just think it's, it's certainly something I'm constantly asking myself is how do I take the next step forward? How do I keep building momentum? So, um, and, and for any of those, those aspiring entrepreneurs listening or people who are, are newly into their business endeavors, it's a really hard thing. I mean, when you're in your own position for someone else, you have a lot of the structure, a lot of those things assigned for you. You know, the equipment that you're using at work is, is the equipment that you're using at work. But if you know that there are certain things you're feel like you have to have in order to really take the next step forward, what are some ways you're working towards that? What are, what are some things you can do now to put yourself in that place? And, and are you doing them or what's stopping you?
Peter Kersting: Probably, I think the biggest thing might be honestly my mindset around money. I have this feeling like I need to save up this lump sum of money to then spend on the equipment that I would like when I would open up this facility. Right. I have this idea in my head and I don't know how realistic it is, but if I build it, they will come. Right. And part of it's building demand, building the marketing systems, building the, the patient flow and the word of mouth marketing to be like, Hey, you know, if you've been doing PT at this place, you should probably go somewhere else and maybe see this guy, Dan, cuz he'll be able to take a different perspective in a different look at you.
Peter Kersting: It sounds like there's a couple things. There's the clientele having the word of mouth spreading, whether it's person to person like that, or you reaching out directly to somebody that you think is really fitting the demographic you're looking for, or it's some kind of social media marketing. Are there any tangible steps you're taking to do that? Now, whether it's asking people that you work with on the side to recommend more people to you like actually actively saying, Hey, if you like, what I'm doing, please recommend your friends to me. Or are you, do you have, are you doing that on your social media? What, what are some things, are you budgeting money to, to buy that equipment that you really need? Like, what are, what are you doing? cause it's really easy to come up with the, with the, with the perfect plan and, and be perfecting it all this time and, and then not take the action necessary. I know I run into that quite a lot.
Peter Kersting: I think what I do really well of is just like stacking cash and just putting it under my mattress. , it's probably a really bad thing to do.
Peter Kersting: Well for your back for sure.
Peter Kersting: Yeah. exactly. Yeah. I'm sleeping on this lump on my bed.
Peter Kersting: You know, I think, uh, the word of mouth thing I could definitely do better at
Peter Kersting: Personally. I love working with you, dude. I think you're, you're really easy to talk to. You're a very personal guy and it's clear to me how passionate you are about what you do. Um, like I said before, there's not many people I think I would call to ask for a favor and have them profusely thank before it. So that speaks to your character and, and I think people, when they hear these interviews, I hope they, that that comes out. I, it certainly has in my conversation with you and I've really enjoyed that. , um, not to believe the point about some of the things that, you know, you need to work on your business, but I think it is, it is a sobering thing, but it's a really helpful thing to say, like, Hey, you know, my mindset, just like your mindset for the physiological stuff, um, has an impact on how you recover your mindset about how you take the next step course of action, uh, is going to change.
Peter Kersting: I just know I've started to take this very, uh, intentional, uh, approach recently where I'm gonna put in this amount of work specifically at this time every day, um, to do this next thing, that is the next priority list. And I'm not gonna wait until the plan is perfect. I'm just gonna take action because that's how things start to move. And then you perfect as you go. And that's really been hard for me, but, um, I'm starting to see some really positive results from that. So I encourage you. Um, any of these questions I've asked you that, that you're like, dude, I don't know the answer, this we're talking about physical therapy. Now you're asking about business practice, uh, screw you for making me look bad. I, uh, that's not though what I'm saying. I, I I'm fired up to talk to you more about it at some other point. No,
Peter Kersting: It's, I, I appreciate you keeping me honest in that endeavor cuz I know it's, it's uh, it's gonna be a struggle. It's just like, yeah. I guess finding a way to still give people the best results that they deserve while I'm doing it. I guess. So that might be another concern, right? Is like, am I gonna be able to provide them the best that I think is the best as I'm setting out on my imperfect plan, right?
Peter Kersting: Yeah. Fair. No, it's a challenge. It's a challenge to try to do. There's a lot of sacrifice that comes with working your full time job and being what you need to be to people while also trying to justify and, and really do justice to, uh, your dream goal. So I salute anyone who is attempting to do that. I certainly have mad respect for anyone who's trying to do anything. Entrepreneurial is it is a, is a leap of faith required. That is never easy,
Peter Kersting: Before we get into the second half of this podcast, where Dan gives actionable practical tips for you. If you're looking to move past pain and increase your mobility. If you've been enjoying this podcast I ask that you do me two solids. Number one, consider rating reviewing and subsc