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Speaker 3: Forst's Good afternoon. Everyone, welcome along to the show. Thank you for tuning in on this gloomy Tuesday afternoon. If you'd like to join us A double two three, double O, double O, big show for you today. Were you ever bullied at school? We ever teased at school? It's pretty traumatizing. Spare a thought for the kids of today because they've got it so much worse. They are now dealing with nude photos of themselves being shared around. The problem is they're not real. It's not them in the photo, but because of AI, it now looks super realistic. So we'll speak about that shortly and find out what, if anything, can be done about it. We'll also have a look at Adelaide's worst hotspots for accidents. Have you had an accident? Do you know a particular road or intersection that is just an accident waiting to happen? You know? Shortly the top five will also tell you the age and gender of the driver in Adelaide who crashes the most, and we can even narrow it down to the color of the car that is most involved in accidents here in Adelaide. So we'll have a look at that. We will pay tribute today to the legend Bill Oddie of the Goodies, legendary member who passed away over nights this show. I don't know about you, but this show was such an enjoyable part of my childhood, maybe yours too. Adam Hills is a Goodies super fan. He's going to join me and a couple of years ago I spoke to the now sole remaining member of the Goodies, Graham Garden, and we'll replace some of that for you for those who missed it. We'll also talk about travel with Phil Hopman. Travel Today, it's Turkey Tuesday. I want to hear about unfunny people today as a part of Turkey Tuesday, because I don't know if you saw over the weekend, but Donald Trump bombed telling It not the only bombing he's doing on the weekend, but this was a big one of the speeches. He told a joke over the weekend and it didn't go down well. So we'll get you a list of unfunny people later in the show. And we have a very special musical guest for you today too. She has the voice of an angel. Katie Noonan will be on the show.
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Speaker 5: Thanks for the chat and I'm actually in sunny South Australia at the moment.
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Speaker 3: It must be there must be a little bit of sun where you are, Susan. I'm looking out over the hill, not a lot east of the city.
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Speaker 5: No, I'm in the CBD and it's dreary.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully you can get some sunshine before you leave us. Thanks for coming on. It's lovely to have you on. This is horrific, Susan, for all involved it is.
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Speaker 5: And look, it's not new. The issue of deep fake images of students has been around, probably in fairly epidemic proportions for the last two to three years, and as you stated, the harm is equal, if not greater, than if the images was real. But I will take you to task. And I really don't think the government is doing enough to ban the apps, because that is something that if the app was made illegal, the appstock wouldn't hosters. There are things that they could be doing better.
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Speaker 3: So I thought we'd talk about this Susan today, because whilst the five DOUBLEA audience aren't of school age, they might have children or grandchildren who are How easily accessible is this technology? How cheap is it? How simple is it for people to create fake needs of other people?
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Speaker 5: It is cheap and easy, and by cheap I mean free and it's easy. And I can guarantee that most of your listeners could do this should they choose to. It basically is find the app or find a product on the web, go into it. You've got to kick that you're over eighteen, so you can lie if you need to. But anyway you do that then it will normally say do you have permission to use the image? Because obviously you've got to upload something to get the app to work, so yes, and press a button and away you go. And you know, these are not what I would call perhaps aesthetically nice neod images like the Statue of David, like that sort of stuff. It's not that these are creating explicit pornographic poses and it's horrendous.
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Speaker 3: So, Susan, I had in my schooling years two cases that I can remember of a nude photo image different to today because we didn't have the Internet and computers in our day. So it was a genuine photo that had been taken on a camera where the role of film had been delivered to one of the photo labs, it had been printed off, and then it was shared around physically. So one was a girl from a boyfriend, and interestingly, there the boyfriend copped it far worse than the guil did because everyone realized and got into him for that. How unacceptable that was. The other was about a young man who had a photograph taken when he was drunk and that got passed around. I was stagging to read that. The numbers today so that Adelaide University is saying between sixteen and eighteen year old kids one in twenty five knew someone had experienced it themselves. They just knew of a case happening, So it's not like a one off isolation in a five year period. This is constant.
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Speaker 5: It is constant, it's continual. There is no one solution to this. And whilst they did say if we made the actual legal we can substantially reduce the offending, we need education as well, Like what possesses someone to think that this is a respectful and responsible use of technology. It is designed to harm, hurt, and humiliate. There's no other words to you.
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Speaker 3: Have you heard horrendous ages of kids being bullied this way?
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Speaker 5: Yes, the younger stuff had is year seven and it is mortifying. And you know, we've seen with some cases of cyberbullying the impact on the young person's mental health is such that they take their own lives. And whilst we know that that's not social media bullying in isolation, because suicide is very complex. The notion that many of your listeners might have about you know, the sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. That's gone, that's out with the dirty dishwater. Words do hurt, They've always hurt. We just didn't want to acknowledge that. I don't think many years ago and this sort of stuff is it's permanent, so it's there. It gets reshared, it gets recirculated, it gets rehatched. The volume of people that see it here it can respond to it is great. It's not just a photo, like you said, being shared around a group of people. The reach of this sort of content is horrible, and that of course adds to the level of harm.
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Speaker 3: Is there a sense of dismissal of the seriousness of it because it is fake and not real?
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Speaker 5: Or yes, yeah, yep, I think some people goals it's not real.
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Speaker 6: Who cares?
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Speaker 5: And you know what, I think we need to understand or if you don't understand, you know, in the early day of photo shop and all of that, it was pretty obvious that it was a fake image. The head never matched the body, so it's pretty easy to say that's fake, don't worry about it. But this is so good that it's normally not discernible to the naked eye, and so it is extremely realistic. And even when people go but it's not me, it's a fake, it is still embarrassing. It is still humiliating that person still has to show up at school the next day. And I can tell you now ninety nine percent of this doesn't happen at school at the back of the science lab. This is happening at home on a parent's watch. So we need parents to know what their kids are doing online to be able to talk to them about respectful and responsible use of technology. Because as much as a parent has a responsibility to keep their child safe, they also have a responsibility to ensure that their child is not inflicting harm on someone else.
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Speaker 3: It's a great point. Susan mcleaney's my guess, cyber safety solutions. The law us are pretty strict on this, are they not. Should you get caught?
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Speaker 5: Yes, and that's one of the you know, kick the box good things we've got. We are not scrambling for new laws like many other countries.
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Speaker 7: Of the world.
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Speaker 5: If the images of a child then it's class as child sexual abuse material. If it's of an adult, there are different crimes that can be applied here. There was a recent case, and I know there was one in New South Wales where a man in his late twenties was jailed for nine years for creating new images of twenty six women and uploading them. And I believe from what I remember reading, there was an eighteen year old in South Australia that was jailed for committing this crime as well. So we've got the after the event punishment, which is good, but that does not undo the harm.
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Speaker 3: So are people doing enough? A school's doing enough? Is the government doing enough? Is the e Safety Commissioner doing enough? Is there enough pressure on these social media giants to say, hey, this is just unacceptable.
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Speaker 1: But it's not so.
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Speaker 5: Much the social media platforms. It's the individual apps that is allowing the creation of the image. Mostly when it's shared in circulated new images do get flagged on platforms. I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but this particular issue with the Newdify apps is an app related issue first and foremost, rather than a social media platform issue. But again, why does someone think that this is the right thing to do? Like, why did they think it was a good idea to hurt, harm and humiliate normally someone they know? Because they don't tend to do it randomly. It is normal normally someone within their social circle or within their school circle. So yeah, schools do need to do more. They need to have expert education, not something that's fluffy and flowery. They need the students need to know clearly about this, about the potential consequences of this, and that includes the legal consequences. The Safety Commissioner has some powers and they can to a degree, particularly when the images of a child have the content removed off the Internet. But that's sitting at probably ninety eight percent success, so there's still that little bit that might stay there. But it's not one person's problem to solve. Everyone needs to buy into this and we have to have open and honest conversations around why this is not okay and what we can all do to call it out.
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Speaker 3: So AI intimate and sexual images more than doubled in eighteen months compared to the previous seven years combined four and five of girls. But I read too, Susan that they're saying that that number could be even worse, because you could understand people would be afraid of coming forward. Victims would be like, well, I don't want to bring this attention to myself.
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Speaker 5: No, And I think that with any statistics that's the e Safety Commissioner or even say Pole Release for example, you would really realistically triple it. There is shame, there's humiliation, and there's what's the point we know, any sort of sexual crime is very much under reported, so that includes this type of offending. So yeah, the numbers in reality will be much greater. And there is not a secondary school in South Australia that would not have had this occur, whether they know about it or not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's heartbreaking, isn't it. Before I let you go, Susan. A question from Jason from Salisbury East, far away. Jason, Susan's listening.
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Speaker 8: Yes, Susan, I'll do some youth work with teenage girls as much one of my day jobs. I want to doult you them up with the latest law part. Is it still the case that if a girl's like fifteen years old, in terms for fogas, she's see child porn. I teach the girls this. They think with my body, I see a bit.
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Speaker 5: So please don't use the term child pornography because that sort of indicates that it's a consensual sort of sexual image. So we've gone away from that, and it is images of chist sexual abuse or chist sexual abuse material. So that's really important if you're talking to young people to differentiate. But yes, you can't consensually share this if you are fourteen or fifteen and you're taking a new photo of your self sharing it, well, then you are manufacturing or making toss ex abuse images and you are transmitting it. Something to be aware of in South Australia, which is unique to South Australia is state law defines these images to be a child if the image is under sixteen. Under Commonwealth law which also applies in South Australia, that legislation is eighteen. So you know, the best advice is to make sure that young people understand that until they're an adult, it's not worth the risk of sharing these images.
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Speaker 3: Susan, what do we do? You've got the years of Adelaide, You've got the years of five double a listeners. What do we do as parents, as grandparents, as people associated with schools?
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Speaker 5: So we talk about it. We don't try to brush it under the carpet. We don't have conversations that are shameful. We encourage young people to be brave, to call it out and to tell if they've got themselves in a mess, then know that there is an adult that's going to help them. And silence is a perpetrator's best friend. So we have to be open and honest about this. We have to understand that, yes, whether we like it or not, it can happen. Young people need to know that they will be supported in coming forward to tell and make sure that the conversations continue just a normal part of conversation around. I heard this on the radio today. Have you heard about it? Have you seen it at your school? What would you do if it happened to you or your friends?
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Speaker 3: It's great advice. I have that conversation tonight with my own kids. Susan, thank you, appreciating enjoy time here in Adelaide.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Susan MacLean Cyber Safety Solutions, former Victorian police officer and now a cyber safety got a thought, how horrendous is that? Think of all that we went through at school, and yet that might have been to a much smaller audience. As I say, we had two cases of this in school. Was really interesting because everyone called the guy out for doing the wrong thing, so that photo of the young girl never really got shared. But the guy whose photo was taken during our school period, that did get shared because he was drunk at the time and people thought it was more jovial. But the effect on both of those was terrible. So imagine that not just goes around your school and your maybe group of friends, but around the entire school and multiple schools and online. So the Adelaide University in the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children found that one student in every classroom in this country, one kid in every class has personally experienced or knew a friend who had experienced AI generated image based abuse. It is a new former bullying that's going to be hard to stop, but conversations clearly what we need to have. Susan MacLean my guests.
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Speaker 1: Five Global at Afternoons with Leep Forest Well.
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Speaker 3: For eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. If you'd like to join us, we'll pay tribute to the great Bill Oddie from the Goodies who passed away overnights. Adam Ills is going to join us very shortly. Leanne's got an interesting point on the text. He said, length, I bet your China doesn't allow those texts. Our government could do something if they decided to. That. Reading between the lines, Leanne is exactly what Susan Klean was saying. When I mentioned that the government had tried to ban it, she kind of indicated, didn't she that maybe they have not tried enough but just terrific. I think it's a conversation worth having with your children, with your grandchildren, people that you know. I never thought it was that prolific. One student in every class and this one from Len said Microsoft allow these newdifying apps, surely they must be accountable, You would think so. You would think that there would be like Internet police. But as we know, there's a lot of bad things on the Internet. The government are trying to do what they can when it comes to young people on social media apps. But if it's an app that is not via a Facebook or an Instagram or a TikTok, it's just some rogue gap where people can create needs of others. Yeah, what are we doing? How is that not shut down in two seconds? So it's a good point. Maybe the pressure needs to come on from the government more. We'll take a break. Melwoysia has headlines for us at one point thirty Adam Hills to pay tribute to the Goodies and Bill Oddie Neck.
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Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Leaf Forest.
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Speaker 3: The theme song alone just brings back nostalgia and joy of childhood. Sad to hear and read. Overnight, the British actor and broadcast a Bill Ottie has passed away at the age of eighty five, best known to Australian audiences through the magnificence of The Goodies nineteen to seventies UK TV show that was always on the ABC Graham Garden. The Scott Borne comedian now the last surviving member of the Goodies trio after the earlier passing of Tim Brooke Taylor. My next guest is a legend of comedy here in this country, and I remember years ago he and I chatting on this radio station where we found out that we were both mutual super fans of the Goodies. It gives me great pleasure to welcome back Adam Hills to the show. Welcome Adam, nice to be back. I guess you know. Age catches up with everyone, as does ill health. But sad news. With Bill's passing overnight, it.
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Speaker 11: Is really sad newsn't It's funny that we talk about the coincidence of you and I are realizing that we love the Goodies. I don't think we're in a small subset. I think you know I put out a post yesterday on Instagram and Rhys Darby, the amazing New Zealand comedian, commented and said, you know this one was he was really feeling this one. And on Facebook today he posted a photo of himself wearing a Goodies T shirt and I responded saying, I think I had exactly the same T shirt. I think if you're of a certain generation in Australia and New Zealand and you were in any way into comedy, the Goodies were formative.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I was talking to my mother about this, Adam. So the Goodies were on from nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty two. Now in eighty two, Adam, I'm six, So it was replayed so often on the ABC and growing up in the Southeast it kind of it sets a time of the eighties where as a family we sat down Mum, dad, my brother and I every night watching dinner six o'clock ABC, and we seem to watch the Goodies year after year after year.
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Speaker 11: Well, and I think that's the interesting thing about Australia and New Zealand with the Goodies is that, as far as I know, in the UK, it was an adult show, and there was some you know, adult, real adult content that was edited out for Australia and it was put out at six o'clock. So you know, in the UK, it's a slightly different feel for the Goodies than we have here because we grew up with it. So in Australia and New Zealand it was a kids show and so you know, like you know, you were six, I would have been twelve in eighty two, really formative years and so much of what I know about the UK, so many in jokes, all came from the Goodies.
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Speaker 12: Yes, I still remember, you know, a shot of Sydney Harbor and it said Earl's Court and I had no idea why that was funny until I got to London and realized Earl's Court is where all the Australians go.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just so much of my comedy was informed by the Goodies.
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Speaker 3: So as a lover of comedy myself, but someone like yourself who does it for a living and as a craft, tell me about that. Because they had slapstick and they had visual gags and it was satire and music was such an important part too.
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Speaker 11: Well they won, you know, they they want to I want to say a silver rose at the long tro TV Festival. I've probably got that wrong, but like it's an international television festival that celebrates the best comedy or best television in the world, and they won I think a silver for one of their episodes, which is a huge accolade, you know. And you're right, some of the stuff they did, some of the slapstick they did, some of the they would parody silent films, it really was quite genius. And I think because it was seen as maybe a bit of a kid's show, maybe it wasn't appreciated as much at the time. And then also, you know, there were wrangles over replaying it and who owned the rights and all that kind of stuff, so we didn't get after the early eighties, we didn't get constant replays to remind us how great it was. So yeah, I think and again because of that, those who love it really hold it dear to our hearts.
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Speaker 3: And as you say, there's part of the vernacular or if you you know, I go to a local butcher here in the central Michael Antonio con he has black pudding in his window. Straight away, that's all I think about, Adam. If I see a squeezy sauce bottle that's in the shape of a tomato. That's all I think about.
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Speaker 11: I mean, look, I don't know if Jack White of the White Stripes named the song Ecky Thump after but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Speaker 3: If he did not at all. You would have this conversation, I'm sure within your industry and with friends too, what's better American versus UK comedy? I think when you look at Bill Otti's life, so in the sixties, he's a writer for John Cleese and Palen and Terry Jones of Python, you've got the Python Boys and then the Goodies branch off. So it's Bill and Graham and Tim they branch off and do their own thing. But you know, in a chess game of comedy, that alone, those two pieces alone, Python and the Goodies Adam, that's hard to beat.
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Speaker 11: Oh, it is hard to be. And you know, I'm so incredibly lucky that I've crossed pars with them a number of times now. Bill was on my talk show, and when I had Adam Hills tonight on the ABC, I think he was one of the guests that we were most excited to have on the show and he was so lovely. And then one year in Edinburgh during the festival, I was sharing a venue with Tim and Graham. They were on two shows before me in the same venue, and so I would turn up for my show just as they had finished their show, and we ended up every day we would have a cup of tea together in the bar. They'd tell me how their show went, and then I'd get ready for my show, and I just I would tinge myself every day that I was friends then with Tim and Graham, and I'm still friends with Graham.
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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, heroes becoming your friends, which is all. So you start, Adam Hills, is my guest. You started your career here in Adelaide at SAFM many many years ago. Did the Pirate Radio episode do anything for you? Like every radio person I speak to, we all talk about that episode too well.
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Speaker 11: I think it was a combination of yes, yes, was it? And now a walk in the Black Forest was the soul of this consolation?
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Speaker 8: Just I said.
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Speaker 11: For me, I think it was a combination of Kenny Everett and the goodies. Kenny Everett also, I mean he worked on Pirate Radio, so and he's when he's got a sketch show. It was almost like a radio show on television. So you throw that and then Graham and Tim and a giant cat and Ecky Thump and you know, a flood of custards. I mean, we're so lucky. We're so lucky in Australia that we got that and that you know, you were talking about the difference between British and an American comedy. Some British comedy made it over to America, but they never got the Goodies and we're just I think one of the joys of growing up in Australia in that time period is that we got the best of both worlds. We've got you know, for me, we got Mash and we got the Goodies and you know, even to this day we got friends, but we also got Monty Python. We got everything.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And you talk about Kenny, so I think even as young kids, we knew that Kenny was rude, but the Goodies never were rude. Like they might have had jokes that our parents were laughing at them, might have gone over our heads. But it's not until you watch the DVD box set now where there's a couple of gags of kind of South African tourism that maybe donate as well. But the rest of the show, I mean, forty years on, fifty years on, Adam still as funny today as it was then.
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Speaker 11: And it's funny. I was reading something. I was reading an article today about that South African Tourism episode. I mean, I'd have to go back and watch it, but even the article I was reading saying it was ahead of its time, and actually, you know, when you look at what it was actually saying to kids about apartheid, it was kind of making a point. So but you're right, they weren't well they actually they were rude, but the rude bits were cut out. That's what I found fascinating later in life is to find out that, you know, the Goodies went to where I think at maybe eight thirty at night, maybe even later in the UK, yep and the ABC would chop out the rude bits and put it to air of the kids show here. And I think because of that it influenced a different generation. And that's why there's so much, you know, such an outpouring of love for Bill because and also Bill was you know, Bill was the one we wanted to be.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the other two were in suits and shirt and button and Tyler Graham and Tim dressed. But he was a bit whow wasn't he Like the shaggy hair and the beard and the unusual clothes and yeah, he.
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Speaker 11: Was absolutely And he was the one that did the song. You know, he sang Funky given he sang the Goodies theme song as well. Yeah, he just and so his name was Oddie, Like it couldn't be more British and comedy.
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Speaker 3: It kind of feels sad though, Adam, like it's part of our childhood. It means we're all getting older. I guess you know now the fact that Graham is the last one, you know, in his early eighties, it's kind of it's the end of an ear sadly.
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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, and I think the fact that we lost Tim during COVID it kind of got his death kind of got lost in lockdowns and the whole world shutting down a little bit. And you know, you're right now that there's only Graham left. I only saw Graham a couple of months ago. Actually he runs a comedy festival in Bristol, a slapstick comedy festival, and in fact I sent him an email yesterday before I found out about Bill, because they're releasing some Goodies books and he asked me if I would write a forward to one of them. And yeah, you know, every time I see Graham, like I said, I feel how I think how lucky I am to count him as a friend. But also, you know, every time I see him, he's a little bit more frail. He's walking with a walking stick, and it just, yeah, we're in that age now where our heroes are starting.
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Speaker 8: To leave us.
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Speaker 3: But it is nice to go back, and it's nice to think of not just the comedy of that time, but also what was happening in families and lund rooms around South Australia or in Australia where at that time on the ABC, you know, for us in the Southeast, we only had two channels to choose from. So we're very lucky that Mum and dad. And it was almost a staple, wasn't it of the Goodies into Kenny Everett or the Goodies into Doctor.
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Speaker 11: Who that period that period of time. I remember so vividly the Goodies Kenny Everett, Doctor Who, maybe the Benny Hill Show, I don't think it was on at that time of Day, the Two Ronnies.
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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, Horridge, are you being so all of that? Like just the best, the very best of British comedy?
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Speaker 11: Amazing Tommy Cooper, Yeah, we really, you know, there is a whole generation, like I said, of Australians that are just so heavily influenced by that period of British comedy, and we should count ourselves lucky.
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Speaker 3: That we were great to speak Adam, thank you, appreciate.
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Speaker 11: It, lovely, too lovely to share the memories.
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Speaker 3: Sorry for your lost two of you, dear friends. So that's the great Adam Hills, super fan of the Goodies. Bill Oddie has passed away at the age of eighty five, and for many us you would remember him from the nineteen seventy Hard to believe there was seventy six episodes. It's a bit like when you look at some of the great shows like Faulty Towers, you think it kind of lasted for years and years and years. It was on for twelve years, nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty two, seventy six episodes, but again I remember watching them through the mid to late eighties too, So rest in peace to the great Bill Oddie. After the break, we will replay a chat that I had with Graham Garden a couple of years ago on five double A. So he is now the last sole remaining Goodie with the passing of Tim Brooke Taylor who died back in April of twenty twenty due to COVID. So you'll enjoy that if you're a Goodies fan. We'll take a short break. It's seventeen to two. Back after this.
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Speaker 2: You realize we are just about do you take a mouthful? But what is probably liquified nerve gas.
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Speaker 13: It is tomato soup.
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Speaker 1: It's bright green, so the tomatoes went ripe, five double A Afternoons with Forest.
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Speaker 3: Fourteen minutes to two. Just before we get to the interview that we had with Graham Garden a couple of years ago. In tribute to Bill Oddie, Steve said, rest in peace to the Ecky Thimp Grandmaster. This one from Robert said, I remember Eggy Thilp and the Strawberry Jam and Scones, I mean Scones. Cole was a fan of Basil Brush and that British comedy of the eighties. He can keep your Goodies memories coming in if you wish a double two to three double O double ow we can send a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. But sadly now, with the passing of Bill Oddie, as well as the earlier passing of Tim Brooke Taylor, that leaves just one Graham Garden.
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Speaker 1: Goody goody, Yes.
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Speaker 3: Fifty years ago this month the Goodies debut on BBC the great late Tim Brooke Taylor, Bill Oddie and my guest this morning, Graham Garden Obe they brought us the good East. Graham joins me this morning. Graham, thank you so much for your time. It is such a thrill and honor to speak to you.
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Speaker 14: Well, it's a great thrill for me to talk to Australia because I know, having been to visit you down there, how very much appreciated we are. We appreciate that in return, you are very loved.
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Speaker 3: How are you going? I mean, COVID has a mention has been difficult for everyone, and for you guys more so, I guess with the passing of Tim.
00:32:27
Speaker 14: Yes, that was quite a shock and yeah, that was quite difficult.
00:32:31
Speaker 3: I spoke to Adam Hills Graham. I was on here the day the news came through and it gave us. I guess when greats of the entertainment industry pass, it does give people a chance to go back and revisit and watch some of the old shows or listen to the old music. And we were talking about our favorite episodes and Adam Hills brought up a great point. He said that for him, like me, and like so many the goodies, for us, it was our introduction to comedy, and it really shaped and molded our sense of humor. I guess you hear that.
00:32:57
Speaker 15: A lot.
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Speaker 14: Explains a lot. Yes, I know Adam has been a fan from way back, and obviously we have big fans of his too, But I guess yes. And I remember when I was in Australia at the stage door we used to get, you know, people would come up for autographs and have a chat and things, and there were two huge blokes with beards and bests lurking in the shadows, and one of them came over to me and said, thank you for making a pretty terrible childhood bearable. He didn't use the word terrible, and that really touched me. I thought, gosh, you know that it's quite quite a compliment.
00:33:46
Speaker 3: Can you believe it's five decades, Graham of the Goodies.
00:33:51
Speaker 14: It is hard to believe. It's hard to believe that it's five decades and we're still talking about it. You know, I'm surprised since in this country it's not been exposed quite the way it has in Australia, but people still seem to remember it, and a lot of stuff on Twitter and all sorts. The DVDs have helped out, of.
00:34:13
Speaker 3: Course, Yeah, be can you walk us through. So the three of you are at Cambridge University. Tim is studying law, You're doing medicine, Bill's doing English. How does the Goodies come about? Because it's true the Monty Python Boys were at university at the same time.
00:34:29
Speaker 14: We were all pretty much at the same time. Yes, and so Tim and Bill were just a year ahead of me, and they did a student We all joined this thing called the Footlights Club, which was a club of undergraduates who put on reviews. And we were very fortunate having an actual club room that had a little bar at one end and little stage at the other, and a couple of times each term we put on what we call smoking concerts when people would try out their sketches and write new material and then by the end of the year of the best bits that had you know surfaced were put together as a review which went on the stage at the Arts Theater in Cambridge and then you know, anywhere else that would take it. And Tim and Bill were in a show called My originally Clump of Plints I think, but became Cambridge Circus and that was very successful. It went on, had a London run, went to America and went on Broadway and went to New Zealand somehow skipped over Australia I'm afraid. So that was Tim and Bill, John Clee as Graham Chapman, and when they came back they had graduated back then I joined them making a radio program which followed on from that called I'm Sorry, I'll Read that Again, and a young whipper snapper called Derek Idol was writing for that as well. So we were all together doing you know radio and then then we sort of split into groups and Eric and John and Graham Chapman did well. Eric first of all joined up with Mike and Terry from Oxford University and did Do Not Adjust on the TV and then they met and they joined up with John and Graham and did Monty Python Tim and I did a show called Broaden Your Mind. Bill came and joined that, and then after two series of that, it was a sketch show and Monty Python had kind of cut the ground from under the sketch show by then, so we said, we'd like to do it a bit different and do it with a plot each week, you know, make it, make it a story, but using the silly comedy that we put into our sketches. And BBC said, all right, make a series. They didn't even ask for a pilot. We just were given a budget and told to go and do it. So and that was The Goodies.
00:37:00
Speaker 3: November nineteen seventy. As you say The Goodies, did you know straightaway? Did you know? It was like comedy lightning in a bottle with the three of you?
00:37:08
Speaker 14: No, we didn't, because when we did it, we started by filming the outside sequences, so they're done in little bits at a time. There's no sort of flow, and you just did one gag at a time, and of course nobody laughs because you're not supposed to when you're on a set. So we did these sort of two or three weeks filming with nobody laughing at anything. I had no idea whether it was going to work or not. Then we saw those bits cut together, we thought, well, that's quite funny. And then we did it in front of a studio audience and they were with us really from the go. And the first series, of course we had a live audience free show, but every week we had a new audience and they hadn't seen the show before because it hadn't been broadcast, so we had to kind of explain the whole premise to them. I hope that they would would join in with the silliness, which on the whole they did.
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Speaker 3: I'm speaking of Graham Garden, Grahame. There are so many great moments of this show that I mean, nine series, seventy six episodes. Is there one episode or one bit that stands out to you? It's a question that when you talk to Goodies fans, everyone has a different episode that they love, or there is a moment that they love. I'd be fascinated as the brains behind it. Is there one for you that stands out?
00:38:31
Speaker 14: I've always well, I always find it difficult naming the best episode because I haven't seen them for so long. I don't think I have a favorite episode. I have favorite bit. I must say, I think the film sequence at the end of the Movies episode is one of my favorite bits. I really enjoyed the political one we did where Tim turned into Ivita Temita and have the famous crime and me and Argentina. But there were so many bits and pieces, and as I say, a lot of the shows haven't seen for a long time, and when we have seen them, you suddenly remember and think, oh, well, gosh, that was a good bit.
00:39:13
Speaker 3: Were you surprised at how much it became part of popular culture? I mean, I speak to Tony O'Connell, he's a butcher here in Adelaide. We were talking about the black pudding in his window at his store, because it reminds us of Icky Thump you talk about anytime I hear the Beg's, I don't think of the Begs. I think of Tim wearing a bath plug, walking down the street with brill creaming is here. It's amazing how much it's become part of, you know, common pop culture.
00:39:40
Speaker 14: Well, you know, you could say that we've spoiled pop culture for a lot of people, but yes, well, I mean that was the idea behind the show, was that it would reflect pop culture it was in the end of satirical show that it sent up whatever was going on in the world at the time, whether it was movies or politics or you know, whatever trend there was going we tended to incorporate it and send it up.
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Speaker 3: And is a young young boy growing up in Australia. We used to have it at six o'clock. It was tea time, so we'd sit around as a family. We had two channels where I lived, so we would watch the ABC religiously. We saw every episode year after year because they would keep playing it and we always got a real thrill grame too when Australia got a mention. It's odd now watching it with the Rolf Harris mentions. It did always give us a great thrill because we loved, you know, the patriotism that you would have in the show with the union jack boxes and all the rest of it. But anytime Australia got to mention, it was a huge thrill.
00:40:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: I don't think we're very nice about Australia most of the time, where I can't remember, but yes, yes, we had a lot of Australia gags, I'm sure, and well I was as famously the Rolf Harris episode Yeah, yeah, which I don't see being repeated anytime soon now.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: You, I mean, you had an incredible career with television and radio and the theater. For us, you build team are always going to be the Goodies, and people just hearing you this morning, their hearts will be swelling with the memories of the good East.
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Speaker 14: The Goodies was terrific fun to do, and we were given so much freedom by the BBC and so much support. I mean, we've occasionally been moaned about them not repeating the shows, but what they did for us was extraordinary and at the time that we made it, everything was in the house. You know, the visual effects were made by BBC people, and the makeup and the costumes and everything was made within the BBC, and you know, the whole departments. They used to get together and have these wonderful meetings before we went filming to really make sure everybody understood exactly what we were trying to do, and that was terrific. It had its downside, you know, when you're standing out in the middle of a field dressed as a rabbits pouring rain, discussing whether you've come into the shop from the right or left. You think this is no job for a grown man. But it was very, very satisfying and it was good fun doing the music and the book and everything else as well.
00:42:15
Speaker 3: I would urge everyone to get onto YouTube, pick up the DVDs if you can so you can watch them. But there is so much content on YouTube and online as well. Nineteen seventy November the BBC, Timbrooke, Taylor, Bill Ottie and my guest this morning against such a thrill. Thank you so much, Graham.
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Speaker 14: Garden, Thank you, thank you. It's been a pleasure.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Milp. There's a bit on this Tuesday afternoon bird flu cases, New Premier and Victoria. You can talk about either of those if you wish any other issue that's on your mind. A double two three, double O double oh. We'll get to your calls and text very shortly. Anyone who's on the roads of Adelaid will know if you're listening to us right now as you're driving, or if you're at home or you're at work you're relaxing but you've had to make it commute, you would know that there are some hot spots in Adelaide that are no good well. Amy have told us officially now because they've named our worst hot spot. It is the Amy Crash Index, and the crown has been announced that Northeast Road in Modbury is our most unwanted hot spot in Adelaide. In fact, there's a lot of data to come out of this that we can get through with Steve Cratchley, who is the AIMA Motor Insights and Operations Manager, Steve Lovely to have you on. Thank you for joining us, good A, how are you doing well? It's not an honor that you would necessarily want, but there you go. Modbury gets the ground.
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Speaker 7: It's not a great crown at all, but it's great to actually be able to share that information so we can actually get some awareness out there and encourage drivers to actually either give a bit more leeway to their current front or maybe pay a bit more attention when they're in some of these hotspots as we call them.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: Before we get to the hot spots and we talk about like the age and gender and color of cars and all the rest of it that you've found as part of this, how do you do it? How do you work out your crash index?
00:44:03
Speaker 7: We work through near four hundred thousand claims from the last twelve months during twenty twenty five, and we look at where the common crash hotspots are. We look at the time today, the types of vehicles involved. We're obviously not not trying to name or shame any individual areas or cars or drivers or anything like that, but it's more to give general information to governments, to state governments, federal governments, etc. To try and help improve some of those road conditions, but also to help drivers understand what are the leading causes for crashes, and often it's minor crashes that can be most inconvenient.
00:44:35
Speaker 3: Is it fair to say it's not just an individual road sometimes, too, Steve, it can just be an area where there might be similar characteristics. I guess when it comes to a.
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Speaker 7: Hotspot absolutely where you've got a lot of intersections, a lot of turning on merging, where there's a lot of decision making needed to be done by different drivers. And also, depending on the time of day, you sort of get that influx of information over where you've tried to drive home. You may have the kids in the backseat, you're trying to get to the shopping So in those of the situations, we really encourage drivers just to allow maybe an extra five minutes to get home or to get to the shops, and give yourself time to make those decisions. Where it may be turning across traffic, or you're coming to a roundabout or an intersection which is quite congested, just give yourself a bit extra time to actually judge what's happening and make the correct decision rather than having probably a very bad day.
00:45:28
Speaker 3: Is the crash index all about negativity? Are there any positives to come out of it before we get into the nitty gritty of where it's going bad? Is there anything we can hang our hat on stave today?
00:45:37
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, certainly so. Part of it. We do look at our Amy Driver Rewards technology and it does show that Adelaide drivers have got an excellent result for speeding, so you're not a speeding area. You actually drive well within the speed limits, which is great. But we do unfortunately also capture some turning as was some of the lowest scoring behaviors, So where you're crossing roads or turning ride from crossing intersection something like, that's where we do see some of these unfortunate failure to give way type accidents.
00:46:05
Speaker 3: If you can hear that noise, Steve, that's all of Adelaide nodding in agreement with everything you're saying. All right, let's get to your top five. The top five crash hotspots here in Adelaide, according to the Amy Crash Index. Number one is Northeast Road at Modbury. Is there an intersection there that's worst?
00:46:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the Northeast Road and Golden Grove Road. It's the most common crash type. There's failure to give way unfortunately.
00:46:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are what are they kind of impatient or they're trying to give way, some aren't giving way that it'd just be all over the shop. Yep, that's it.
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Speaker 7: And time of day of an afternoon especially, we're in a rash trying to get to the shopping or pick the kids up from school, things like that. It's just you know, you're always under time constraints and time pressure these days, I think, so just try and give yourself that a little bit extra time to get there.
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Speaker 3: Number two is South Road at Edwardstown. What are we doing there and what intersection?
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Speaker 7: It's South Road and street and unfortunate that's a nose to tails. So that's quite often where people are approaching traffic lights through a good way or stop signed perhaps, and they're not looking through that current front see what's happening in front of them. They're just waiting for that current front to maybe break and not leaving enough room to break for yourself. And I know from my early days of driving, many many moons ago, my first crash was actually a nose to twel accident where I was driving along a beautiful surf side road and looking at the ocean for a moment and then looked ahead and all the cars had stopped. So I was in one of the situations where I just hadn't given enough room to stop.
00:47:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how many people are doing that because I think they can make the lights they're expecting to get across, but the car in front isn't.
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Speaker 13: That's it.
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Speaker 7: And if you look through that car and you may see the light change to orange, and the car in front then may suddenly break. And if you've got that extra bit of room and you can see that happening before they even start breaking, you'll then give yourself that extra time to try and slow down the stop.
00:47:53
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been to Adelaide a recent time, stay. But now with the roadworks on South Road it's even worse. So am I challenge for number one next year?
00:48:00
Speaker 9: We think it could. It could be.
00:48:02
Speaker 3: North Terrace in the city is number three.
00:48:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's another failure to give way on the corner of North Terrace and King William Street and Fayer to give way seems to be a common theme we're seeing in Adelaide, and it's more Adelaide than driven than some of the other cities unfortunately.
00:48:18
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think here that intersection North Terrace and King William that would be people wanting to go left to go to the Festival theater, right into the CBD itself for to go on. So again that's an impatience thing, probably because you've got on pedestrians, you've got buses, you've got a lot of traffic in that area.
00:48:33
Speaker 7: That's right, leave multiple road users, pedestrians, multiple decision making points there. They can get quite confusing, especially if you're in that rush period.
00:48:42
Speaker 3: West Terrace is number four in the city.
00:48:45
Speaker 7: Yes, West Terrace and Hindley Street, So I think that's sort of probably maybe the bit of the nightlife there on Hindley Street maybe getting involved that fayure to give way.
00:48:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the McDonald's there Onhearley that everyone knows, so they'll be trying to get down to again. That's a difficult road, university students, the nightlife on the on the eastern side of that. And finally, this will come as no surprise to a lot of people that drive it a lot, and that would be Port Road at heind Marsh.
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Speaker 7: That's right Port Road and South Road and that one's a very common nose detail type incident. So when we again see those people not leaving enough breaking room or cars in front having to break suddenly because of the light's changing, but they won't expecting. So it's really again leaving that little bit extra gap in front of you. You may think it looks too much, but at times when you need it, it could really save an incident there.
00:49:31
Speaker 3: It's interesting you look at all those intersections as you say everything that you're judging people on speeding, distraction, acceleration, breaking and turning. You're doing all of those there because people are impatient and don't want to wait at the lights for another two minutes potentially, so they run the risk of any of those five particular characteristics.
00:49:51
Speaker 7: And if we just give ourselves an extra five minutes or ten minutes to get home or get to the shops, whatever the case may be, it means we get there safely. It means we haven't had an accident, and everyone everyone to get home. Say whether you're insured with Amy or any other insurance, it really doesn't matter. What we're trying to do is encourage all road users to have better outcomes with their journeys.
00:50:09
Speaker 3: So obviously you want us to take more care at intersections, anticipate traffic. Maybe you just leave that bigger gap so that you don't go, you know, tail to nose, and then that will help you out when it comes to busy traffic.
00:50:22
Speaker 7: That's right, And especially when you look at the peak praying times and it's those afternoons one to four point thirty, you know, when you're doing school runs or you're racing to get to the shops before maybe that school run. And then worse days for Fridays. I think everyone's got the weekend on their minds, so they're sort of thinking, you know, what are we doing this weekend, rather than actually the task at hand.
00:50:40
Speaker 3: You're about to upset the core group of five Douba listeners here, Steve, what is the worst driver age and gender? Please?
00:50:50
Speaker 7: Unfortunately for Adelaide it was sixty five year old plus and mail drivers. So it's unfortunate statistics. But we do see this sometimes with of the largest cities, and it could be that we're seeing a lot of older drivers driving a lot more these days, and maybe they're making poorer decisions because they're getting more distracted with so much activity happening around them.
00:51:12
Speaker 3: You know, that's our core demo, sixty five plus males, Steve, I'm not going to get out of the building alive today. But they might blame there might be a number of reasons why, but they might blame some of the other drivers there too, because I guess when you're sixty five plus, you've driven for a lot of years, so correct correctly.
00:51:29
Speaker 7: And I know I've had that argument with my father many a time. He used to be a truckee and certainly has driven for a lot of years, and he argues that he's one of the safest drivers on the roads, but he's of course had a few accidents over the years and these days. He had to stop driving recently, but in the last few years he was driving, he certainly had a bit of I think impatience when he got to intersections or trying to get through roundabouts, that sort of thing. And you can understand at the time, we're all trying to get there, get through the day as quickly as possible, or get to that shopping center or an appointment like that. And again, I think it's just that time constraint, that time pressure. We all feel the time, so better to just give yourself, as I said, an extra few minutes and you'll get there safely.
00:52:08
Speaker 3: Which vehicle manufacturer has the most crashes in Adelaide, Well, it's.
00:52:14
Speaker 7: Not surprising, I think because the sheer volume that they sell. But Turds are probably the largest that we see in our database, followed by Mazda's Hold and Mitchbiddy and Hord And surprisingly we used to encourage a lot of customers that white was the safest vehicle, but now every second car on the road seems to be white. Yes, so it's no surprising that we're seeing white, silver and gray cars coming.
00:52:34
Speaker 13: Through the data.
00:52:34
Speaker 7: Is the most common colored vehicles it crashes these days.
00:52:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting, isn't I guess that you would say volume of cars that are that color, probably more likely to But has that always been the thing where people thought that it was safer to drive a white car because you're easier to identify.
00:52:50
Speaker 7: In the older days, yes, and it probably still is. It's safe in probably some situation. Certainly sort of early evenings, white cars were much more easy to see than say, dark cars, that sort of thing. But with so many white cars on the road, I think these days every second car is a white car. We used to have a very multi colored car park that we've now gone to very light and with the heat in Australia, it's obviously not surprising that white cars reflect the most heats, so therefore they're probably cooler then parked outside for the day.
00:53:18
Speaker 3: We used to play a game as a family stave called Spotto, where we saw a yellow car and you had to call it out. We just you don't see yellow cars anymore.
00:53:26
Speaker 16: No, that's right.
00:53:26
Speaker 7: There used to be a lot of taxis in some states were yellow. In Germany, I know they always laugh when they see a yellow car get down the production line because that's taxis in Germany. Yes, so yeah, But in Australia we rarely saw yellow cars and I drive a couple. I've got two red cars in my garage and you know, people sort of laugh thinking, you know, I must love red. But it was just by sheer coincidence. But certainly it's a very it was a very colorful car park, but we've now gone to a much bland or I think car park, especially when colors like white and silver and gray. Quite often there's sort of no cost options when you purchase those vehicles.
00:54:00
Speaker 3: So I thought red cars always go faster, so maybe that'll help you out in traffic. Before we get a final summation from his Steve interesting texta and one of our listeners, they said it should be advised people get their eyes checked as your distance perception changes over years when it comes to eye problems and cataracts, etc. I've just had mind done leaked and my distance perception has changed massively. Maybe that's something for people to look at too, if they find themselves in a bingle.
00:54:25
Speaker 7: It's certainly something that I think the state regulators and doctors can certainly have those discussions with families. And if you do feel that your death perception is changing, it's certainly worth while having a chat to your optimologists or your doctor because it could be something more serious. So not just for driving, but for everyday help. It's something worth while to get checked.
00:54:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got family members who now won't drive at certain times of the day because they don't feel as comfortable as previously, you know, whether it's early in the morning or late at night. Our takeaway from all of this, Steve, you've got the years of adelaide. What should we be doing better on our roads?
00:54:58
Speaker 7: Just allowing a little bit more time when you're going from point A to point B, give a bit extra space between you and the car in front to allow you to break if need be. And if you're turning across traffic, just make sure the GAP's large enough to get through and with plenty of room. Don't rush, don't try and squeeze through a narrow gap. Give yourself plenty of room and that way you'll get there in one piece. You'll have a much better day and everyone else will.
00:55:21
Speaker 8: Be safe on the roads as well.
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Speaker 3: Well done. Thank you for that, Steve, fascinating insight great, thank you appreciate it. That's Steve Cratchley Amy Motor INSIGHT's an operation manager. They have done their crash index Crown for twenty twenty six, so from the first to January and the thirty onest to December last year, the best part of four hundred thousand motor insurance claims there at Amy were lodged and they had a look of those eight thousand, three hundred claims across Adelaide and the top five intersections Northeast Road at Modbury Northeast and Golden Grove, South Road and Edwardstown or Edwards Street there in the city at Edwardstown North Terrace and King William Street, West Terrace and Heinley Street or Port Road and South Road. Have you got another area that you'd like to add to that list? Do you drive through any of those on a regular basis and you can attest to how bad it is? Eight double two three double O DOUBLEO. There might be another one that we should add to the list. We've all, I'm sure got our issues when it comes to some of the places here in Adelaide. If you'd like to have you say eight double two three double double OW is my number. Nineteen minutes after two, we'll take a short break. We'll get to your calls and texts on the other side, and Julie Collins has just spoken to the Federal Agricultural Minister. We know there are twenty seven cases now of HS five bird flu, so we'll let you hear.
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Speaker 1: That after this five double a afternoons with Leak Forest.
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Speaker 3: Thank you Jen for your text message. King William Street and North Terrace has a bus turning lane that goes right from King William into North Terrace. It confuses many because they don't know what's happened, and the rest don't want to be struck or stuck behind the bus. That's a good point, Jen, Maybe that's why he gets onto the list of top five. There must be other intersections. Are the roads other parts of Adelaide that you don't enjoy from a traffic point of view. You welcome to let us know a double two to three double o double oh. Before we get to your calls, Julie Collins has just spoke the Australian Center for Disease Preparedness confirming positive cases of H five bird flu seven sea birds on the Limestone Coast down in God's Country. Here he is the Federal Agricultural Minister.
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Speaker 17: To reiterate, we're talking twenty seven wild birds. These have all been found along the coastal birds on Australia and at this stage we have no evidence of any mass mortalities, nor is there any evidence of it being in our poultry or agricultural systems, and the risk to human health remains low, which is a really important message for Australians. The other really important message here, of course is if people see these dead birds or other dead animals, to make sure that they avoid touching them, that they do report them and they do guide through to BIRDSLU dot cab dot au to that phone number to report us okay.
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Speaker 3: So all of the birds are greater crested turns. One of them was found in Cape Jaffer, one was found at Port McDonald and five around the South End Jetty just near Beachport. Of the five birds collected from the South End Jetty, four of them were sick and one was deceased and both of the other birds were found deceased, so they were reported to PERSA. Samples were collected there and then they were suspected and they've now been confirmed by the CSI ROW in Geelong following the testing that he's done. So more genetic sequencing to be finalized to determine whether local transmission is now occurring in Australia. What will be interesting, I think, is whether this will become a little bit like we did with COVID and perhaps with the algill bloom, whether we'll get fixated on numbers again. So I guess that's the We want to keep bringing you the information and keep you up to with what's going on. But remember we used to do that with the amount of cases, the amount of people that will hospitalize, the amount of people that were doing this, and that what's the difference between sixty birds and an actual bird flu? I guess so that we don't get too concerned or too overwhelmed, but that might be something to keep in mind. If you see any sick or dead birds, first and foremost, do not touch them. Record what you see and then you can always report it to to the Emergency Animal Disease Hotline. That number is one eight hundred six seventy five triple eight, one eight hundred six seventy five triple eight, or you can go to birdflu dot SA dot gov dot au leth. I think the oldies of whom I am one, I'm seventy years of age, says this text. If you have a small, little crunchy bungle and the other younger people, especially the youths, have higher repercussion impact. That's a good point. That is a good point. We'll have to look into that. Of all those incidents, yes, what were more serious than the others. That's a great question. We'll look into that. We're going to talk travel very surely. Peter Williams will be here from Phil Hoffman Travel. Just before we get to the headlines with Malaysia. Just a reminder, it's one of the great days on the five double A calendar. Back for another year. We are supporting Catherine House and the Hut Street Center with our undi Drive officially kicking off on Monday, the third of August, So next Monday, we are calling on you to support the amazing causes to help provide clean underwear for those who are in need this winter. You can donate at undidrive five double A undidrive dot com and this year there will be more ways than ever to get involved, so keep listening to five double A on more ways that you can help. It's all thanks to McGain and they are massive supporters a local for over fifty years, McGain Real Estate, McGain Commercial McGain Property Management McGain dot com dot au and we spoke to Jaylee Cooper from Catherine House just the other day, mentioned that the undie driver was coming, mentioned obviously that we had the phone alert, the ODS alert yesterday for those who got to take part in that at a half past one. I didn't get one. We were having this conversation in the office earlier. I didn't get a message. My daughter didn't get a message. Some people got two, so I'm not sure what happened there, but I think most people had that yesterday. So hopefully those who were affected by domestic violence and sadly were victims of that, were able to do something about it with the alert yesterday, the compulsory alert there at one point thirty. But it's always terrific to be able to support Catherine House. And we know the Hut Streets Cent to do so much amazing work too with those who sleep rough here in Adelaide and do it tough. So if we can help us out with our undidrive starting Monday, we would love that eight double two to three double O double O is the number. Hey, just before I get to headlines, let me do this. We're going to speak to Katie Noonan later in the show. So we'll give you the chance to go and see Katie, who's performing at the GOV on Thursday night, one of the great angelic voices that this country has. The following night on the show there at the GOV will be the Wolf Brothers, who are excellent. They're performing Friday night at the GOV Saturday the Barossa Arts Center. You can book at the Wolfbrothers dot com. That's Wolf with an E w LFE Wolfbrothers dot com. Two of Australian country music's finest and what talents these boys have.
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Speaker 1: Five A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
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Speaker 3: Thank you Mel. We'll check in with the Weather Bureau very surely. Peter Williams not too far away too to talk all things travel thanks to Phil Hopman Travel. Jeff says the OS alert was one hundred and thirty five million dollar waste of taxpayers money in a cost of living crisis. It would not have saved a life of Bondai. And you don't have to be Einstein to know when it's flood season or five last season from a useless government that self promotes itself. Thank you, Jeff. I think you do need to have it We have had incidents before where there has been incidents where people are not alarmed or aware of what's going on. So I can understand why the government would do it. I didn't realize that it would be one hundred and thirty five million dollars, but better to save lives, I guess. I know finance is a concern, but still you want people to be alert and be aware. Pack Clap is at the Bureau to give us all the details on this rather overcast Tuesday.
01:03:33
Speaker 6: Welcome Patrick, Afternoonly, how are you.
01:03:37
Speaker 3: I'm very well. What are we seeing? It's a little grade, it's a little overcast, but anything in the weather for us today.
01:03:43
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, maybe a little bit more into the gauges. We're probably seen the bulk of it so far. So it's a little over three millimeters into the West Terrace gauge there, most of that after at nine am this morning. They're sort of heavier falls. Of course, upper around the hills. We did see a few places there nudge into that sort of ten to fifteen millimeter range, but around the sort of greater metro it's generally been less than five millimeters. And like I said, maybe later on this evening we might still get another couple of little showers pushing through sort of through the evening hours, a little bit more of that overcast feeling around as well, despite their sort of breaks in the cloud and a little bit of sunshine getting through. But what we've got now leaked is southwesterly winds, so that's sort of lowing right up from the oceans to the south. So some cold air pushing in means those maximum temperatures sit pretty fresh over the next couple of days, and those minimums will drop away too as we do see a little bit of cloud clearing out, So not terrible overnight tonight down to around eight degrees is we're expecting to get overnight tonight, maybe another couple of those showers tomorrow, but as I said, sort of the bulk of it has fallen, so we're really just expecting maybe up to two millimeters into the gauges tomorrow and then a top of fourteen tomorrow, staying around that mark for the rest of the week. But like I said, those mornings getting pretty fresh for sort of Thursday, Friday and into the weekend mornings.
01:05:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, there cold morning, I know, there was cold the other night of the footy Port Adelaide giants on Saturday night. That'll be fresh Saturday night patch, I order thought, yeah.
01:05:20
Speaker 6: Look likely to be feeling pretty fresh. I was sort of looking at fifteen degree maximum is all we're getting to during the day, so not much to work with anyway, And yeah, heading for sort of a seven degree overnight temperature, so it will definitely be feeling pretty fresh. Maybe not the craziest in terms of wind, but that's probably a little bit of a watch point of this stage. We'll definitely have a look at it as we get through the weekly look at it.
01:05:45
Speaker 3: Good on your patch. Thank you for that. We'll speak to you tomorrow. Thanks patch clap from the bureau. Fourteen degrees in the city right now it feels like nine. You might want to go and see these people chase them sun.
01:05:56
Speaker 7: Five double A Travel talk Thanks to Phil Hoffman travel for over thirty years, creating moments you'll never forget.
01:06:03
Speaker 3: He's the managing director CEO, Peter Williams. Lovely are people coming in and people actually saying, hey, Pete, find us some sunshine. I don't like this weather.
01:06:10
Speaker 13: I tell you what, I need some sunshine. It was freezing just walking into the studio. It is icy cold over there at the moment. It's crazy. But yeah, no, there's people coming in and they're sick of our winter mate. They want to go anywhere and everywhere there's some sun.
01:06:23
Speaker 3: Are there People like me though that come summertime, go hey, Pete, send me somewhere cold. I want to head to Europe or I want to get to the America. Some we were at a bit Chillian snow. I know Christmas time, but probably.
01:06:34
Speaker 13: Don't get as much of that where I think.
01:06:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
01:06:36
Speaker 13: We've got a Mediterranean climate. I think we're kind of used to the warmth, but we're not so used to this freezing cold. So no, look, you know, but people love doing winter holidays. Yeah, don't get me wrong. You know the Canada and the Christmas markets in Europe and places like that. A lot of snow skiing up in Japan. So yeah, people are definitely looking for winter breaks, but it's probably not as obvious as them coming in saying get me out of the heat.
01:06:59
Speaker 3: I always find you can get warmer, but you can never get cooler. Yeah, you know, some people like it, though yourself you're probably just yeah, shirt offs and away you go I want to be like the beekeepers out Yeah.
01:07:11
Speaker 13: Look I do. Look coming from Broken Hill, you know, it's hot, hot weather nineties at the time, although it does in middle winter it's very cold.
01:07:18
Speaker 3: There had some great news again with flights here in Adelide.
01:07:21
Speaker 13: It's amazing.
01:07:22
Speaker 18: You know.
01:07:22
Speaker 13: I think every time we're on air we talk about extended flights and more frequency and is.
01:07:27
Speaker 3: That coincidence You're putting the pressure on, you're getting on air and talking about it and they're listening.
01:07:31
Speaker 13: Well, I've just come from the Aviation conference which is at the Outelaide Oval right now, and so we've got all the heads of the airlines here and you know, which is fantastic because you know we're showcasing South Australia straight away, which is which is brilliant. So I love it when we have these world class events here and we had I had a meeting with the head of Singapore Airlines yesterday and he was freaking how they're going from there. They're seven to ten to twelve services and hopefully fourteen services a week which will be double daily, which is sensee. So they've just announced the twelve a week, which is a really good stepping stone to that double Daily. That's awesome news because we love Singapore Lines. They've been in the South Autralia market for forty years. They've got brand new aircraft coming in, they've got great connection through all through Asia and also into Europe, so that's awesome. But then on the back of that, United Airlines announced couple of weeks ago that they're coming back for their seasonal service Adelaide direct to San Francisco. I think we touched on that a week or two ago, which is just brilliant for not only for those passengers who want to start at San Francisco, which is one of the great cities of the world, or head over to Napa Valley, but also for the freight and the cargo. You know, you imagine what's going the belly that the wine coming from South Australia to the Napa Valley and vice versa. So you know, that's a great story for South Astralia to have a direct flight to the US and this is the second season they'll do that, which is quite historic. And then Cathay Pacific, how trusted Hong Kong partner, they're coming back into South Australia as well, and they're really ramping up services. From four December, they'll go to three services a week. Then they're going to five services a week through to February. So you know, all great news. And what it does it just gives people more choice for direct airlines, direct connections, and generally that puts a bit of pressure on pricing as well, which is downward pressure.
01:09:15
Speaker 3: You've been in the industry a long time. Because I'm in the West, I get to see the planes all the time.
01:09:19
Speaker 2: I love it.
01:09:20
Speaker 3: I always think of a plane spot. Yeah, I'm like, here's a family or someone going off more often than not on a dream holiday. Yeah, or they're coming home to see loved ones either.
01:09:31
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's a bit of romance about it. And we're very lucky our head officers down at Glenelg and we've got like a rooftop car park. You've been there and it was funny. The Singapore Airlines head was down there and I was just showing him through the place and we just happened to be out the car park for a particular reason and Singapore Airlines was coming in at four o'clock in the afternoon. Did you organize it or did I organize that?
01:09:53
Speaker 2: Yeah?
01:09:53
Speaker 13: It was great, but Yeah. I always think that because in the morning, when I'm walking the dog and you're seeing these planes take off, you go, you know, there's there's some real happiness in flying somewhere for flying.
01:10:03
Speaker 3: Home, memories are about to be made.
01:10:05
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:10:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. And those plain nerds, they were always out there on Tapley's Road. They never miss they are they are always out there.
01:10:11
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:10:11
Speaker 13: Well, the other day we had some fog in Melbourne and the big Singapore Airlines A three eighty, the big super jumbo double decker came in and boy does that bring a crowd. So there was people coming in for every because everyone can track them now, you know, through live tracking, and it's fantastic.
01:10:26
Speaker 3: Well, I was watching that the first test flight between Europe and Australia for the contest three fifty. Everyone was on there. There was more people on that than like ticket tech trying to get tickets.
01:10:34
Speaker 13: But they were saying it's some kind of record viewing of that on on the flight radar app which was one stage. I think they had I don't know, thirty thousand people track it some nice track flight. Ever, Yeah, how's that say? So that flew from Toulouse to Melbourne. I think it came into and you know that was a test flight for what is eventually going to be Connis's Project Sunrise, which will be Sydney to London non stop and then soon to follow will be New York. So how exciting would that be just to get on a plane and end up in London.
01:11:09
Speaker 3: Or New York lead one of the little connectors that there is the worst. I find that little one hour from here to Melbourn's.
01:11:16
Speaker 13: Wasted wasted time. Wasted time.
01:11:18
Speaker 3: Take me there. Grand Princess are returning to Australia, which really excite many.
01:11:23
Speaker 13: Yeah, look at will cruising as you know, it's synonymous at fiel Hoth and Travel. We love our cruising and we know Souths love it as well. So nothing better when you've got cruise ships coming into Outer Harbor, which is which is great. So you know we're going to have this beautiful ship, the Princess, Grand Princess and it's it's going to come down. It's a really nice midship option. Pricing is phenomenal. You know, it starts at around about two hundred dollars a day and if and say you can't stay home for two hundred dollars a day when you include all your food, you drinks, entertainment, transportation and that type of thing. So we've got itineries right around Australia and New Zealand South specific and some longer voyages where it's coming down from Asia and going back via Asia. So yeah, very exciting to have, you know, the cruises coming back into our to harbor.
01:12:08
Speaker 3: Fifty years down under the nice milestone. When you started, there wouldn't have been many cruise lines I imagine in Australia. Oh I know.
01:12:15
Speaker 13: So when so Phil Hoffan himself he started up the first cruise center in the whole of Australia. I remember him coming to me and he said, Peter, we're going to set up a cruise office. I said why and he said, I know. It's a thing.
01:12:29
Speaker 1: It's going to happen.
01:12:30
Speaker 13: And I went, oh, I'm not really sure about that because at the time, I think we just had the Trusty fair Star out of Sydney which was gone for yeah at the party boat, and that was about it. That's all I knew about cruising. And then here we are, you know, thirty years later, where every second person that walks into filth and trouble actually ends up booking a cruise, and it's not always they're just their complete holiday. It's part of their holiday, right, you know, so if you go to Europe, you know, add on seven nights to do a Mediterranean cruise. You can't get better unpacked once.
01:12:57
Speaker 3: It's funny with I wonder if the love Boat actually or hurt the cause because people thought every cruise ship was like the love Boat was, yeah, or it was Cooter on the water, you know, like it was just party central.
01:13:08
Speaker 13: Yeah, if you go back and look at you know, the Love Boat show that the ship was pretty pretty standard for today's Yeah, correct, you know, but back then that was considered like surious. You know, it was great. And I've just come back from Europe and I was on the biggest ship in the world, Legend of the Sea's Royal Caribbean Ship. And this ship is amazing and it takes thousands of people and some people go to me, you know, Pete, that's too big, or you know, you get lost in it. Whatever, you do, get a little bit lost. It tactually a day or so to get accustomed to it. But you know, we were in venues where you know, there's only thirty or forty people in it, and it's like going to your favorite city or your favorite village in Europe. You know, lots of choice for bars, lots of choice for restaurants and world class entertainment. So yeah, cruising is here to stay and it's really popular, and it's even better when it's now I'm backyard.
01:13:55
Speaker 3: It's funny when they put the photo of the Titanic against the ships of today, tug by the Monsters looks like a tugged by Titanic. Crazy.
01:14:04
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that was twenty six thousand ton. I think the Titanic, and someone out there will know better than me, but I think it was around that and that would be considered an ultra small vessel these days. And just to put it in perspective, the legend of seas I think is pushing three hundred thousand ton. It's grast ten times bigger.
01:14:24
Speaker 3: That's amazing what they can do with the technology. And before we speak to our special guest, New Zealand, Hey, so that's just on our door stet. That's good for people. Nice little squirt across the ditch.
01:14:34
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a good segue to who we're about to have a chat to next Antheic gram Pacific Tours. But yeah, look, New Zealand is one of our number one destinations for Australian travelers, and yeah, look it's the beauty is for Adelaide. We've got direct flights now previously yet to go by Melbourne City. We've just talked about the virtues of that, so direct flights into Auckland. Hopefully again we'll get some seasonal flights down to christ Church as well for the summer, which will be absolutely terrific. It is one of the most spectacular countries anywhere that I've been in the world, and I think there's nearly every piece of every country I've been to that they've popped it into into New Zealand, and I love it. You go to South Island, you've got the mountains and places like Queens Sound, which feel like a little European village. Then you go to North If you've got the Bay of Islands, which is a bit like our Witch Sundays, and you've got rainforests, and then you've got these amazing lodges you can stay and so you know, it's an incredible place. And some people don't think about New Zealand until maybe they're quite elderly, but I say no, go and do it now because it can be really active as well, Like there's so many things that you can do. And I just personally every time I go to New Zealand, I love it. I really enjoy it.
01:15:42
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. The marry culture, you close, great culture, to the money, the people. Yeah, world, we're checking out a Coola. You've been there.
01:15:50
Speaker 13: I have been to Acroa.
01:15:50
Speaker 18: Yeah.
01:15:51
Speaker 3: Man, it's a great tie there. That's awesome, you mean trum. We're going to speak to Anthony Flores. He is the executive business development manager of Grand Pacific Tours. Joins us afternoon, Anthony. Lovely to have you on.
01:16:02
Speaker 15: Thanks Da Peter. I appreciate always good coming on and having a chat about Grand Pacific Tours in New Zealand.
01:16:08
Speaker 13: It is fantastic and nice to hear from you. Anthony. And you probably heard that little bit of a segue with New Zealand's That's your Home. Tell us a little bit about graand Pacific toos, because maybe there's some listeners out there that don't know much about your brand. We certainly know a lot about it and we love it. But tell us a little bit about it.
01:16:25
Speaker 15: Yeah, Peter, we've been around for We actually celebrated our thirty year anniversary earlier than we done, so we've been doing it for a long time. We specialize in New Zealand. It's all we do as we're a little touring company. We specialize in small and medium sized groups. We've got beautiful coaches, great accommodation, and we really try and make it as easy as possible for all of our guests traveling with us.
01:16:50
Speaker 13: Yeah, and I I like that that's small to medium size rather than you know, fifty two people on a coach and being led around, you're more far more immersive. Your groups is much smaller than that. And I love some of those luxury coaches.
01:17:04
Speaker 3: That you have.
01:17:06
Speaker 15: Yeah, they're beautiful coaches and they're exclusive to Grand Pacific tours. It just gives our guests the ability to sit back and relax. And as you mentioned earlier, there's so much the sea New Zealand and it really is a scenic overload, so having someone to do the work for you so you can sit back and relax, and the benefit of having those smaller coaches, it's not just the comfort on board, it's the time it takes to get on and off the coach. It's the extra attention you get from your tool leaders, in your coach captain, and we're really proud of our crew and it just really enhances that experience for our guests.
01:17:41
Speaker 3: Do you find the coach travel is better than independent travel for this, Anthony, because I think when I independent travel, you're looking where you're going, you're paying attention to the GPS, you're not really looking out the window.
01:17:51
Speaker 2: Look.
01:17:52
Speaker 15: Definitely for the driver, it certainly is. And one thing about New Zealand is, you know, we've got a beautiful country industry, but it's very vast and you can drive long, straight roads to get from A to B. In New Zealand, the roads are a lot windy, ow, there's a lot more mountains, and the scenery really is everywhere. It's a much smaller country. To the benefit of having that coach traveler, you've got someone doing the work for you and you can take in that scenery.
01:18:20
Speaker 13: Yeah, and I think that's spot on. And one of the things that I always say with touring, and especially coach touring, is that it's a very efficient way of doing things because one you've done all the hard work you've done all the research for starters, but two, if you know, I think people often say to me, how you know, what's the time that you'd spend in New Zealand, And I say, well, as long as you've got But typically if you're going to do you know, both islands, I think you need roughly that three weeks. Maybe just shy of that. You've got a beautiful nineteen day two that we'll talk about in a minute, but I think if you were to drive that and try and see the same sites and take in all the extra sites seeing that you do, you would need four weeks plus because you're just not doing it as efficiently.
01:19:00
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's correct. And our drivers and our guide to Super Experience, and we hand pick all the tours that we know that our guests are going to want to do. We give them optionals as well, so if they want to do a few extras, they can do optionals. But the tours that we do are picked, they're perfect for our market, and our guests don't have to think about it. We leave it in the hands of the tour leader and the coach captain and even things like portery. So when we pull up to a hotel we'll have someone meet us at the hotel. Your bags get taken up to the rooms for you. When you leave the hotel, you just leave your bag outside, it gets put on the coach. You go and have breakfast. You don't have to worry about carding it up and down the lifts, and even the hotels you don't check in, you get your card handed to you as soon as you get off the coach and you can go straight up to your room so.
01:19:48
Speaker 13: You don't have to check in half the time.
01:19:50
Speaker 3: No way tore around in the lobby.
01:19:53
Speaker 15: Lobby in a queue. So yeah, and these are all the little things that you would do if you get it on your own.
01:19:58
Speaker 13: I love that, and I often say to people, have the key, don't even go to your room, go straight back out to the town square, go and have a beer or a coffee or an ice cream, and just start immersing yourself in the destination that you know you're going to spend a couple of days in.
01:20:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:20:11
Speaker 15: Absolutely, Yeah, a good idea for sure.
01:20:14
Speaker 13: And you just tell us, yeah, we talked about mid sized group touring, and you know, we love your offering here with the signature service that you provide. Just maybe tell us a little bit more about that, because I know you still use like a full sized coach, but it's you really limit the amount passages on board.
01:20:30
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
01:20:31
Speaker 15: Absolutely, And a lot of people when they get to our coach, they expect it to be a smaller coach, but they're not, so they are a full sized coach. Full sized coaches typically have forty eight seats. Yep, ours have thirty two seats.
01:20:42
Speaker 13: It's not business pas really.
01:20:44
Speaker 16: Yeah, it is.
01:20:46
Speaker 15: It's you know, we like to call this economy certainly a premium economy. You've got plenty of leg room, the seats are really wide, they're very very comfortable. We've also got Wi Fi as well, so we'll give a guest a daily Wi Fi allowance they can charge their phones while they travel. So it's got all the mod columns, bathroom on board. It's very very comfortable, and when you compare it to a forty eight seat coach, you'll notice a difference straight away. It's a significant difference.
01:21:12
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that that makes a huge amount difference in just that leg room. I was on a coach the other day. There's fifty two people on it, and look, it was only a short drive for an hour or so and I reckon my knees, you know, they were just about around my head somewhere, and I got off and I was totally cramped up, you know. But you're not getting anything like that on Gram Civic tours, that's for sure.
01:21:30
Speaker 15: No, nothing like that. Very very comfortable.
01:21:33
Speaker 13: The other thing that I love about your itineries is, you know, the coach is the main component of transport, but you also mix it up with some amazing rail journeys as well, and you know, I think that kind of breaks it up a little bit as well. I love rail, and I think it's just it really compliments your premium coach touring.
01:21:53
Speaker 14: Yeah.
01:21:53
Speaker 15: Absolutely, all of their itineries that go to the South Island include the Trans Alpine, which a lot of people have heard of the most well known of the rail journeys in New Zealand, and our nine day rail cruise and coach also includes the Coastal Pacific as well as a steam railway. So rail is an important part. New Zealand really embrace their rail travel and we like to incorporate that in our itineries and their guest love it.
01:22:20
Speaker 13: So the Trans Alpine, that's that's the rail journey from christ Church to Graymouth from memories that right goes right over the.
01:22:29
Speaker 2: That's it.
01:22:29
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, we get off there and beautiful views obviously that Alpine region, and you mentioned earlier the South Island is famous for its beautiful mountains. It's striking mountain ranges, it's alpine regions, and you know, you certainly could be mistaken for being in parts of Europe when you're traveling through that.
01:22:48
Speaker 3: It's funny. The New York Times has got a great thing on their newsletter where they take a photo of somewhere and then you've got a guess around the world where it is. And quite off of New Zealand's in this group, but people think it's part of Europe, whether it's the fuel or whether it's the mountains, etc. Yeah, amazing.
01:23:03
Speaker 15: It's just hours away from us, it is, and that's why it strange. They love all of New Zealand, but the South Island in particular because it's got a lot of those things that we don't have here that we would typically fly to the Northern Hemisphere to get to. Yep, and that's the beauty of it.
01:23:19
Speaker 13: Yeah, No, I totally agree. We were just saying earlier on when you came on, you know, the optimum amount of time of traveling around to see the islands. Now we've got a fantastic nine en Dale rail cruise and coach option which I think is just about perfect to see both the North and the South and a great combination of transport. Do you want to just touch on and maybe expand a little bit on that itinery because you just go to really the absolute highlights.
01:23:43
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, and this is our most popular itinery for those reasons. We do include those rail journeys I mentioned earlier, so the trans el Pine, the Coastal Pacific, and a short steam railway. In addition to that, this one includes an overnight on Milford Sam and typically when we go out to Milford Sad it's a day to it. So we go from now and we go up and back in the day. The beauty about this tour is we actually go to Milford Sound, we go on the field Land Mariner and we spend the night over there. We have breakfast, so you get the afternoon, you'll get during the night, and you'll get the morning, so you get a lot more time cruising around Milford Sound. So it's a real wow factor for a lot of our guests, and we also go to some of the other famous areas in New Zealand, like the Bay of Islands, we see a Hole in the Rock. We do beautiful Queenstown of course, which is one of my favorite places on Earth. It's absolutely yea, it is studying and you know, we'll do the North Island and the South Island quite extensively, and it does go for nineteen days, so you're almost right on that three week marks. It's a really great itinery.
01:24:51
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's terrific and I think you know, with that nineteen days, you do see the North, the South, all the highlights. Yeah, it's probably ticking just about all the boxes for maybe that person that's only ever going to go to New Zealand once, they'll pretty well see it all. I love the idea of going out to Milford Sound and staying overnight because you'd have to feel like you've nearly got this beautiful bay to yourself because all the daycraft would be all going back, and then probably after four o'clock it's kind of just you and the beautiful Milford Sound. The silence must be just amazing.
01:25:23
Speaker 15: Yeah, you spot on, Peter. It is the overwhelming majority of passengers who go out to Milford Sand do it as a day trip. Very few do it overnight. It's not like how Long Bay and Vietnam, where there's which is beautiful, but there's four hundred you're sharing with four hundred other boats. You don't get that in Milford Sound. It's very limited to the amount of craft that can be on there overnight.
01:25:47
Speaker 13: That's fantastic talking about Coin Sound, and really that is one of the most spectacular places I've ever been. I actually think I could live there. I'm not sure how the cold would go in the winter, but I do like snow skiing, so I could be all right. But I believe they also have one of the most celebrated burger joined t Intown. Is is it Burger?
01:26:06
Speaker 11: Yeah?
01:26:07
Speaker 15: Berg Burger. There's normally a Q halfway around the corner. I think they've got Ferg ice Cream and Ferg Bakery now, so it's an expanded business. And I can tell you they are very good.
01:26:17
Speaker 13: Yeah. I have one a few years back, and I told do not go there at lunch time, otherwise you'd be lined up around the corner. So I kind of I must have snuck there, kind of for a late breakfast burger, but I didn't have to line up. It was great and it was it was awesome. So yeah, there's things like that that you can do, which is great. And then if you maybe need a bit of a shorter time, you've got tours that just do the north and just do the South. I'm looking at this wonderful ten days South Island experience that you've got as well, so you can split it up if you wish.
01:26:46
Speaker 15: Absolutely, yeah, if you haven't got as much time and you just want to do the one island, we do have single island tours. Our ten days South Island is very very popular. It is more or less the same itinerary as the nine day rail cruise and coach, except we start in christ Shirt so we don't go across the into island and we head down, but we do the trans al Pine, we do Queenstown. It's a day trip out to Milford Salmon.
01:27:10
Speaker 6: Once.
01:27:10
Speaker 15: We spent two nights in tire now, but that gives them a bit of extra time to you know, they can go to the field Land Cinema or do the Glowworms and then you get a beautiful afternoon cruise in Milford Sound and this one also includes a visit to Mount Cook so you get to see the country's highest peak as well.
01:27:29
Speaker 13: It's fantastic. We've got some exclusive savings at the moment at phil hoff and Travel with Graham Cific Tours.
01:27:36
Speaker 15: Yeah, we do. We've got some great deals at the moment, so on limited departures, you know, particularly for people who want to travel between now and the end of the year. We do have some tours which will save up to one thousand dollars per person on these dates, so really really good savings, you know, the best mark, the best deal we have in market at the moment and pretty much the best deal we've had for a long long time. So up to one thousand dollars per couple on selected departure dates. So if you go and see your consultants at your phil Hoffman, I will be able to tell you what's available and when you can travel on those dates.
01:28:10
Speaker 3: Get across beautiful good only Anthony, thank you for.
01:28:13
Speaker 15: That, No worries, thankster and.
01:28:16
Speaker 3: Thanks Anthony Flora's executive business development manager of Grand Pacific Tours. Will we're checking out New Zealand. If you haven't done it, or if you have, go and do it again because there's heaps more to see. You're talking all the great Auckland and christ Church and Wellington. You had to road to ruer Oobton.
01:28:32
Speaker 13: Ant he sounds very much like a local, so we're really getting it from the horse's mouth there.
01:28:37
Speaker 3: I don't know if they do it. We did the chocolate tour down in the South Island. Unbelievable, fantastic. So well we're checking out. You can ask about that and more. Phil hob And Travel save up to one thousand dollars per couple on selected departure dates for that. You've got some big events coming up Viking Cruises. You can explore the world next week.
01:28:56
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is by demand.
01:28:57
Speaker 3: Really.
01:28:58
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01:30:29
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01:30:47
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01:30:52
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01:31:43
Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Leaf.
01:31:46
Speaker 3: Forest Good afternoon. It is six minutes after three on this Tuesday, the twenty eighth day of July. Thank you for tuning in. You can listen to us as well as watching us now on the live stream. You can check us out on faceboo and also YouTube. Very surely we're going to speak to Katie Noonan, one of the greatest voices this country has. Shall we hear in Adelaide on Thursday performing at the Gove, So we speak to Katie about that and her new album which has been released. Later this hour, we'll also give you a chance to go and see Katie. By the way, we've got doubles to give away. Later in the hour, we'll give you the chance to go to the Wolf Brothers. They will be performing at the Gove. If you love your country music, that's on the Friday night, so the next night, and also this being a Tuesday, we have of course Turkey Tuesday, and this is your chance to win a mixed twenty four pack of the two hundred and fifty mil Turkey flat wine cans. It's the rose, the pino gree, the chiraz Grenash, It's all the vibrant and refreshing notes that you love that have made Turkey flats Rose an absolute favorite of many. It's everything you want in a good wine, strawberries and floral undertones and a crisp finish. All of that plus the cant environmentally friendly. So that's coming up later in the show. So if you yourself has been a Turkey, if you know someone that has been a Turkey, and we might just sort of steer it in one direction, because I'll play you some audio of a very well known politician who thought he could turn comedian over the weekend, cracked a gag bombed badly, and so on the back of that we might ask you people who are genuinely unfunny. There might be well known comedians or TV stars that are in the world of comedy that you just don't find very funny. So we might do that as part of Turkey Tuesday later in the show. So if you wish to join us eight double two three double O double oh, you can take zero double four eight zero thirteen ninety five or get to us on air at five double A dot com dot au. We've got a bit to get through this hour too. We can bring you up to date with the latest on the missing child there in Port Lincoln. We've got the issue of the twenty seven cases of bird flu the age five year in South Australia, and so much more. So all of that and more before four o'clock before we hand over to Tim and Row So big ou I hope you'll be part of it. We'll take a short break and on the other side we will speak to the voice of an Angel Katie Noonan is going to join me next five.
01:34:08
Speaker 1: Double a Afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:34:16
Speaker 3: So five time ARIA Award winning artist. She is the literal voice of an angel. Katie Noonan has released her thirtieth studio album called Alone but All One, and she is coming to the gov this Thursday. She joins me, Katie, welcome, lovely to have you back on.
01:34:33
Speaker 19: Thank you so much for having me lef.
01:34:35
Speaker 3: You know you're my age, Katie. I look this up. Thirty albums is prolific.
01:34:42
Speaker 19: Yes, I have been a busy bee.
01:34:45
Speaker 20: I mean I love being challenged by different vernacular within the enormously limitless language of music. Really so not all of those are obviously on my own. There's ones with the Bronski String Quartet, the s Stralian String Quartet, were based in Adelaide, orchestral stuff, all sorts of things, but yeah, the predominant predominantly it's my own work, whether it be with George or Elixa or my solo stuff. And yeah, so pretty weird. And it's been thirty years since my first every gig with George in June nineteen ninety well since we formed in June nineteen ninety six.
01:35:24
Speaker 19: So yeah, busy times.
01:35:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking that's a lot of art, and I was reading about your current album and what people are talking about all the words you want to hear, Katie, intimate yet poignant, powerful yet delicate.
01:35:39
Speaker 20: Well, it wasn't an album I intended to make leads. To be honest, It's been a pretty rough twenty months, but I'm just one of half of the country.
01:35:48
Speaker 12: You know.
01:35:49
Speaker 20: Marriage is a beautiful thing and no one goes into it thinking it's not gonna last. But this particular one didn't. But you know, we had twenty really good years. I think it was COVID that really, like many relationships, not just marriages, but friendships, we found very challenging and obviously as an artist, there were no safety nets for artists, so it was a pretty scary time. But as always, music is my best mate, and so since I was since I was three when I started playing piano, but particularly since I was a teenager when I needed an outlet for all of those big feels that teenagers have, that's when I started writing my songs and luckily formed a band. Well, I saw Jeff Buckley when I was eighteen, and that was the turning point of my trajectory as a musician.
01:36:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what the music gods are like. If you're in love, here's some content. If your heartbroken, yes, here's some content. So you know, the circle will turn, the will will turn, Katie, and the love will return, and then there's war.
01:36:53
Speaker 20: Right Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I mean all music or art is a response to life, and therefore it is all sort of innately in a way political, because we're responding to the world that we live in. But also it's just a response to what our heart is going through. And so yeah, I was suddenly, you know, a single woman in an empty house. You know, left the matrimonial home in January twenty what is it five, and so the house was empty for a long time. And then I decided to make the record in my laund room, which was beautiful, to fill it with friends. And it's a gorgeous little sixty two classic post war bungalow house, but good acoustics, beautiful hardwood floors, not super high ceilings, but you know, higher ceilings than modern places. And for it to be filled with four wooden string instruments and then a wooden grand piano and my voice was it suited the acoustic perfectly.
01:37:56
Speaker 19: We just had to mitigate my dog's snoring.
01:38:00
Speaker 20: And the chickens and the ducks and the four children next door. But so we tended to record at night once the chicks were asleep.
01:38:08
Speaker 2: Yep.
01:38:08
Speaker 3: Well, there's a little easter egg for a couple of fans. But how good is that in terms of the intimacy of the album? I see that, Katie sometimes on those shows like Classic Albums, where for every great album that's done in a studio, there's many that are done in homes, and it's the carpets and the drapes and everything else that to the ambience. But you would have a relaxation, I guess, or a different kind of way of feeling your house versus a studio.
01:38:32
Speaker 19: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
01:38:34
Speaker 20: It was beautiful to fill my new home, which has been, as I said, a pretty lonely home for a long time, to fill it with people and to fill it with music, and to fill it with notes and love and people I love.
01:38:48
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the album's out and then you're touring that we get to see you this coming Thursday. With that, I love the idea, Katy, of people watching you perform to hear your angelic voice and enjoyed that experience. Maybe some people, when you can see them in the audience, some are watching you, some are closing their eyes, picking up on words and phrases and sentences. You know the reason I ate with them so I can be very personal to an audience member. But also as a collective.
01:39:11
Speaker 20: Well, I think every set of it is here's music differently. That's the magic thing. And in fact I learned that lesson early on leth when I wrote the song special Ones, which I will say was premiered at the Adelaide Fringe at the East End Exchange Hotel in February nineteen ninety nine. I remember because actually Richard Kingsman was there and that led sort of onto our relationship with Triple J and ABC Radio, but I didn't have a name for it. And my girlfriend, who was there doing some you know, fabulous Carnie Circus spectacular show with barely any clothing in the Garden of Unearthly Delights, was we're literally there are about thirty of us sleeping on the floor in a house. I wrote that song about the end of a relationship with someone who was a dry addict, but for other women at the time, who were much older than me. You know, I was a baby. I was twenty two. They were my age now or older, saying this song gave me the agency to leave an abusive marriage and that was a lot for a young woman to comprehend. But also taught me the responsibility of music making and that you even no matter how sad you do, get that you need to offer hope and sort of empowerment through your music. So that was an incredible lesson for me, which I've tried to carry through all my work. So even in these really sad songs, there is a sense of hope, like I am alone but all one, meaning I'm at peace with that and etc.
01:40:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, private journals are private traditionally, Katie. Yes, what a gift, What a gift for Trent Dalton, your close friend and the author, to give you his journals and say right, do with this as you will.
01:41:00
Speaker 19: As you will.
01:41:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:41:00
Speaker 20: So I reached out for him to be our fourth news for Australian vocal on some of my a cappella quartet and Classical vocal quartet and he said, actually, I've got this thing that I wrote between two thousand and two thousand and six. He's an analog guy like me, pen to paper or pencil to paper, and he had all these journals and old diaries that he just filled with stories of you know, emerging from his traumatic childhood, which we all know now through reading Boy Smaller's universe, but falling in love with Fiona, his wife and future mother of his children, and just general people watching. And you know, this is sort of pre smartphones and all that stuff, where people did spend more time I think writing pen to paper and writing letters. And he's still got all the books and then he typed it up into a document for me, and that was incredibly special and for me reminded me of the wonderment of falling in love. So the album's quite a dico of miss Journey, and that half of it is about that extraordinary sadness of your whole life, you know, blown apart, and the loneliness of being alone but all one.
01:42:11
Speaker 19: But then the other half is very much about.
01:42:15
Speaker 20: The remembering the joy and honoring the love and remembering that I loved Isaac so much that I wanted to know absolutely everything about what he thought about everything, And you know, you counted down the minutes till you saw them again and all the butterflies and you know that beautiful new love thing which is very very special. So yeah, but it's not just for people who've gone through, you know, a breakup.
01:42:40
Speaker 19: It's for people.
01:42:40
Speaker 20: Who've gone through a change of any sort, whether it be grief for a change of path of life, or just sort of sitting with stillness. Basically, yeah, we.
01:42:51
Speaker 3: Get to hear you. The album is called Alone but All One. The tour is with the River Sweet String Quartet. You hear this Thursday. We love that. There's summuch a connection with you and Adelaide, Katie, So we hope you enjoy you stay here. We can go to the gov website or you can go to Osticks if you'd like to see Katie Noonan live this Thursday night at the GOV. Folks, welcome back to our city, Katie.
01:43:13
Speaker 20: We'll see you so, thank you so much, can't wait. Thanks for Adelaide.
01:43:18
Speaker 10: Morning.
01:43:19
Speaker 21: This broke your heart, This brocons broken stars for it.
01:43:33
Speaker 4: Never to.
01:43:38
Speaker 10: Say let's see servant chicken stock.
01:44:00
Speaker 3: So that is the beautiful voice of Katie Noonan, who is performing on Thursday at the Governor Home Marsh. They're on Port Roads, one of our text message that Katie needs to be inducted into the Australian Music Hall of Fame. She's so brilliant, her voice is so unique, and imagine the acoustics with the hardwood flaws. It'd be brilliant. And this is what we try to do on five Double A afternoons. We try to give all of you a chance to go along to a show that you may enjoy. Not everyone has the same musical tastes. So if you're a fan of Katie Noonan and you would like to go and see her in concert, hear this angelic voice for yourself in the flesh. First two callers through eight double two to three double low, double low. Because our travel lounges busy with their callers on double O double five, so call the talk back line eight double two to three double o double oh. First two callers through, we'll send you to Katie Noonan Thursday at the.
01:45:02
Speaker 1: Gulf five Double A Afternoons with Leith Forest.
01:45:08
Speaker 3: Hey, this is an interesting text from our boss, Sarah Rehen, who said I have a memory of when Katie Noonan sang in our boardroom Level five. She is amazing. Thank you, sir. I never got invited to that meeting. Must have just been the heavies. But there you go. Oh no, she's amazing Katie. So congratulations to Helen who's going, and Jeff is our other winner. Congratulations to you both, Helen and Jeff. You will enjoy Katie Thursday at the gov. This is interesting from Sue on the text, who says, hey, Leath, anyone who calls us Radelaide can get stuffed. Sue, I think Katie minted as a term of endearment. I like it when people know Radelaide. I think if you call it Radelaide, this is just my opinion that you've kind of got a soft spot for us. As you heard in the chat, Katie's got a lot of can actions to the city. Do you really not like it, Sue? I think of it as a badge of honor. Radelaid. Let's take calls on that eight double two to three double a double A. Put it as part of Turkey Tuesday if you like. Do you like it when people call our city Radelaide or not? Again? I think it's a nice term of endearment. But thank you, sir. I'm not going to tell Katie Noonon to get stuff. By the way, she's a classier dame than that. Now, speaking of music, I mentioned that we try to cover all bases and it was great. The board was full of people who want to go and see Katie, which is excellent because there are some people who like the music of Katie Noonan and we'll close their eyes and we'll enjoy that. There's also people in the audience, myself included, who love our country music. And there are two brothers who are doing such great work in the Australian music scene. Their name is the Wolf Brothers. So they are performing as well this week at the GOV on Friday night and then they're doing a show Saturday at the Barossa Arts Center. If you want to buy tickets you love your country music, you can go to Wolfbrothers dot com. That's Wolf with a Knee. But we also have another double to give away and you can choose. If you would like to go and see him Friday at the GOV, you can do that. If you want to head up to the Barossa Arts Center and make a day of it, you can do that. All you got to do is be the first caller through eight double two three, double O, double five. We're rewarding those of you who love angelic voices and excellent country music. That's what the Afternoon Show is all about.
01:47:35
Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:47:39
Speaker 3: But this is what Turkey Tuesday is all about. Eight double two three double o double Oh. Maybe you yourself has been a turkey, like myself not being able to control this panel. Maybe someone else you know has been a turkey. Maybe you two want to pile on Tom Gleeson.
01:47:54
Speaker 22: My favorite contestant of all time is Karl Stefanovic, who is on the Battle of the Network's End of Your Special him because he's so unpredictable.
01:48:01
Speaker 13: The problem with being called runt, which is what you are being right now.
01:48:05
Speaker 2: He's done too much live TV and he just could do anything at any time.
01:48:09
Speaker 22: Also, because he's probably off his head, probably cannot confirm.
01:48:13
Speaker 3: Anything all right. So the reason we thought we might now again we love your turkeys in any way, shape or form. People always have great stories to tell a double two to three double O double Ow. We've got twenty four two hundred and fifty mil turkey flat wine cans to give away. This is the mixed pack, the Rose, the Pinot Gree and the Chiraz grenash I thought we could sort of in amongst all the regular turkeys, we could sort of lean it down a path of who do you not find funny? The reason being you may have already heard this, but it was so great over the weekend. So they had the White House Correspondence Dinner. It's where the traditionally the White House in America will invite all of the journalists in the political realm. They'll have a big night, they'll have a nice, fancy spread, and they'll have a comedian who basically roasts everyone, and they give out some awards and everyone goes home and has a good night. You would remember that earlier. This year, it didn't happen because there was an assassination attempt against Donald Trump at that very venue. By the way, have we heard anything about the assassination attempt person since or has that just gone quite anyway? That's beside the point. So no comedian this year because Donald doesn't like comedians making fun of him. It's got a bit of a thin skin when it comes to that. But he thought he'd give the joke a crack himself.
01:49:30
Speaker 9: The other day, a senator I knew got a tax a great guy from his wife and she said, when you get home, I want to have you immediately come up the stairs and make love to me. And he said, I can't do both.
01:49:44
Speaker 2: You know what you know?
01:49:45
Speaker 9: In other words, AH can't go up the stairs and make love. Does anybody get that way? I thought that was exactly yes.
01:49:53
Speaker 3: So they you know, when you have to explain the joke, it hasn't hit. But that was his attempt. In the end, you didn't have the energy to walk up the stairs nor make love to his wife. So it killed, as you can imagine, not the only bombing Donald Trump did on the weekend. So what we're after is, maybe there's someone who is funny that everyone thinks it's funny. Maybe their career is being funny, and yet for whatever reason, you don't find them funny. You think that they're a little bit of a turkey. When it comes to that eight double two to three double O double A. You don't have to get too personal, you don't have to get sort of two up and about. You know, we still want to endorse these people and get them on the show. If they're in Adelaide, come and say hello. But who is it eight double two to three double O double A or you can text poor Tom Gleeson. On the back of Mel's chat, Laura says, I agree with you, Mel will never go again. Laura from glen Elg north Ella says Mel, I agree with you. I don't watch his shows. Cianne doesn't like Ed Cavilli doesn't find him funny, and we mute the Yuiyads every time they come on. Love your show, though, thank you, sir. Again. I'm not endorsing any of these. I want to play the peacemaker in all of this. Somebody said they think that Donald Trump's assassination attempt was staged. Oh hang on, somebody said Adam Hills. Adam was on the show before stop It. Adam is excellent. I'm not accepting that. Craig doesn't think Jerry Seinfeld is very funny. Karen's not a fan of Dave Hughes, but does think that Carl barn is hilarious. We might do that another day. A double two to three double O double A your chance to win a twenty four pack of two hundred and fifty mil turkey, flat wine, cans, the rose, the Pinot, gree, the Schirasgrenash just enjoy it responsibly but easy to transport these cans. You'll love them. Environmentally friendly in all the flavors that you want, strawberries, floral and tones, and a crisp finish. Got a turkey for us or someone that's not funny, let's hear it. Chris in Salisbury, Hello, Chris, Hey, gon Lee, good thank you.
01:52:11
Speaker 23: Yeah, I agree with Mel as well as the other texts on the line as well. Yeah, I don't really think he's that funny, but I'm not going to hate on to me that. I just I can kind of see that he took himself a bit too serious getting back at Mel, But you know, it is what it is, I guess.
01:52:25
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, I want to get them together. I think that'd like Mel's lovely. I don't know Tom, but I'm sure he's a good guy. We'll have to I want to patch that little stous Chris.
01:52:37
Speaker 23: Yeah, I reckon he might be a bit more difficult to deal with in that, but I could be wrong, just because I've watched him on TV for while. He comes across that way. But having said that, I don't know for sure. That's just the way I think it might be.
01:52:49
Speaker 3: So no, I like it. Well, thank you for the nomination. Thank you for the suggestion. I want to find out if we can get these two together. Joshuam Lobethal agrees with mel Lyles. I'm a fan of Dave Hughes or Akma. Can we not just do Australian comedians too? Some of these people I like Husy others may not. Thank you, though, Lyle, I appreciate your suggestion. Ellie's not a fan. Now, I'm with you on this, Allie. I don't quite get the fascination with Melissa McCarthy. I'm not sure Melissa's hilarious either. I'm with you on that. She says, I may be the only person that doesn't find her funny. No, Alie, I'm with you. I don't get that either. A double two three, double O double ow doesn't have to be about comedy, can be anything you like. If you've got a turkey behavior for us. Brian is in old Roanella no longer did a Brian? Oh you been a turkey? Or you know someone? No me, what happened? What did you do last sight?
01:53:46
Speaker 16: Actually I'm actually a few weeks ago. I've got some extra keys cup for my house. I was going to hide him outside and I haven't done that yet. Yes, but I lock myself out.
01:54:01
Speaker 3: How did you get out of it.
01:54:03
Speaker 16: Kitchen window?
01:54:05
Speaker 3: Oh you broke into your own house? Did you have to break the window or was luckily.
01:54:09
Speaker 16: Pushed that one?
01:54:10
Speaker 21: Love?
01:54:12
Speaker 16: But then all my ornaments are on the ledge in the kitchen, over the thing to crawl over the dishes and.
01:54:18
Speaker 3: Everything, break anything on the way through. It just a bit uncomfortable for you.
01:54:23
Speaker 16: I think I tried to move either, roll up about one half made its getting the kitchen. Those kitchen windows are higher because of the sink.
01:54:32
Speaker 3: But yeah, but aren't just semi proud of yourself though, too, Brian. I've had to break in a couple of times at home when I forgot my keys, and part of me is like a little proud that I can still fit through a window.
01:54:43
Speaker 16: Yeah I know that. Yeah, I'm getting older as well.
01:54:46
Speaker 3: You become flexible. You can kind of bend around corners, and that's never good when you've got a tap and a span cold.
01:54:52
Speaker 16: Last night too, I just fanned to get back in the house.
01:54:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not ideal. Well, you've self nominated, Brian, and well done. You are in the running for that. Tony from Seton who's a turkey or not funny Tony.
01:55:05
Speaker 24: Jimmy Kimmel.
01:55:09
Speaker 25: Yeah, he laughs and he tried to laugh and makes it so funny. But he's quite like a baby with election.
01:55:16
Speaker 3: Yes, you're going to move on.
01:55:23
Speaker 25: So good. I'm never going to.
01:55:27
Speaker 3: Tony. You would think when you've got a group of writers, I will agree with you. Often those montages on those shows fallon Kimmel and Colbert. You know, at least David let him knew that his gags sometimes are really bad, and he would make fun of them too, whereas, yeah, sometimes you think, is that the best even the SNL writing? At times you think is that the funniest that they have in the US?
01:55:48
Speaker 25: And the other the other one of the new comedian, which I don't mind, and.
01:55:53
Speaker 3: That's I don't I think I know of Greg Yeah, yeah, he's pretty good. Is he funny?
01:56:01
Speaker 25: Yeah, he's funny. Could have gone to Joson. Doesn't make it personal and he just laughs at everything.
01:56:08
Speaker 3: The mother Well we'll check it out, Tony, thank you for that nice turkey nomination. Darren is not a fan of Dave Hughes. He said he should give up from the Bay. Lorraine also not a fan of Dave Hughes Barry is though. Barry said, like Dave Hughes is funny. I've seen him a couple of times at the fringe. Yeah, I like him too, Barry. I think Hughes is funny. I think Dave Thornton's impression of Dave Hughes is funny if you've seen that online. Graham's not a fan of Mick molloy. Terry's not a fan of Akmar. Much as I wanted to like the show, it just disappointingly didn't hit the mark. Thank you, Terry. I'm sure all of these people will join us Madeline next year when it comes to fringe time, Ken from Woodcraft, who's been to Turkey? Ken?
01:57:03
Speaker 24: None of them? You've got to go positive, mate. The only comedian in this country is stand up comedian and he gets rave reports. He's been all over the world.
01:57:14
Speaker 3: What's his name?
01:57:15
Speaker 24: When you go to one of his shows, you must accept the F word and sometimes the sea word, which is family not acceptable to some people. But when you go to his show, his stand up comedy is, without doubt the best this country has ever produced. He is the greatest comedian.
01:57:39
Speaker 3: What's his name? Jeffries Jim Jeffries. I've heard Jim Jeffries works Blue Well.
01:57:45
Speaker 24: You look at YouTube, you look at Facebook, utv is. He's got stand up shows all around the world. He is, without doubt, the best comedian this country has ever had.
01:58:01
Speaker 3: Can He was at the THEBBI Theater just recently. I think in the last couple of weeks or a month, he might have done a couple of shows that I have had.
01:58:09
Speaker 24: Last week Yeah, last weekend. It was a bit of an insult because he can command more than two thousand people. He could have got the entertainment center pretty well rocking as previous years. Yes, to put him at the theater was a bit of a close to an insult because he demands more people. You watch him on YouTube. He is so funny.
01:58:41
Speaker 3: I'll have to check him out.
01:58:42
Speaker 9: You know.
01:58:43
Speaker 3: We've talked about him on the show before Ken, where he hosts one of the game shows, and I've had people suggest that they don't like him as a game show host.
01:58:50
Speaker 24: He's a much better comedian, but no, that's not his he's not that's not his number one spot. But as a stand up comedian, there's no other better. And I'd like feedback about people that went last weekend to give feedback about his show and was it good? Was it average? Was it very good? I would like feedback, all.
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Speaker 3: Right, we'll find out Ken, thank you for that. Madeline tells me that at an estimated four thousand people attended his shows, two sold out shows at the thebe Yeah, so maybe the entertainment center was booked and they couldn't get him into the arena. If you can pull that kind of crowd. I must admit I've not seen his stand up. I'll have to check it out, but I know we've talked about him before in a game show since and there are some in the audience who don't. I don't watch a lot of TV, but they don't really they think he's better suited to the stage than that, which is interesting. You're getting some feedback you asked for it. Cian and Levi and Damien Damien Wow one double six not fans this a lot, right, I'm sure there's plenty out there though if he seld out thebi twice. Bradley is not a fan of Nazim Hassan. Okay, Dave Allen was hilarious, said another one saw him live at the festival theater never laughed so much. Keith loves Sam Campbell, especially on Taskmaster. I'm gonna have to google him, Keith, I don't think I know Sam Campbell. We'll check it out. More turkeys on the other side, if you want to join us eight double two three double o, double o. And why would you not, because up for grabs is a twenty four pack of the two hundred and fifty mil turkey flat wine ans. It's the Rose, the Pinot gree and the Chrenees, the Chirez green ash. It could all be yours next.
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Speaker 1: Five double a afternoons with leaf forests.
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Speaker 26: To have the house to yourself is relaxing. It doesn't happen very often. Happened recently at the weekend in myself it was duber Eats and Fox Sports for two days. Like it's really annoyed when I don't do some housework when there's no one around and I hadn't done a thing. She rings up to say they're on their way back and I hadn't even unpacked the dishwasher. I'm in massive trouble here.
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Speaker 16: What am I gonna do?
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Speaker 26: So I just put it on again.
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Speaker 15: She got home.
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Speaker 26: She has he ever done anything I said, I have a packed the dishwasher. When it finished open up, she said, used every plate. I said, yes, I did that, even the pepper Pig sippy cap.
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Speaker 13: Yes I did.
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Speaker 26: I was missing my family.
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Speaker 3: See, I think you use his funny. He's coping a bit of grief on the text message. This is all part of Turkey Tuesday.
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Speaker 13: Time to call in and nominate your Turkey of the week Turkey Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: This is on the back of Donald Trump cracking some gags on the weekend. We're just asked who's not funny? Who do people think is funny? But isn't a lot of text messages not all in the affirmative for Jim Jeffries. It's got to be said. A lot of these I can't read. Thank you Darryl for your text. Thank you Ken for your double turkey on Jim Jefferies. Brett thinks Aaron Chen is the best comedian going. He is funny, Aaron Chen. I agree with you there, George Carlin getting some love. The best natural comedian without using explicit language is Carl Barron, says Greg from Munta, Thank you Greg, he is funny. Well, Pete, hell ay you coppying a bit of grief on the text message, Karen says Jim on the one percent club, definitely not his thing. There you go, thank you for those A double two three double O double O. Michelle from Morpha Vale, who's been the turkey Michelle Hi Lee.
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Speaker 18: Yes, So there's a group of males standing scratching their heads at the moment, and so I'm nominating them for Turkey Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: Good They.
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Speaker 18: There's been a housing houses being built. There's six alongside each other, so close together you can't do anything. And they're all standing around out the front looking at the six rainwater tanks that now have to go in the backyard.
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Speaker 3: Oh dear, preparation, poor performance. They haven't quite done the math. What are they going to do?
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Speaker 13: Michelle hire a crane?
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Speaker 3: Wow, big tanks or medium but just no room to get through.
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Speaker 18: Oh, there's no The houses have sort of joined, but they're not joining type things. There's very little daylight between each of the houses because they're obviously trying to fit as many on the block as possible. So instead of having one house, you've got six little houses and it is quite a big block. But they haven't kind of thought about how are we going to get things in the backyard. Should have put them in there before we built the houses. So I'm nominating them for a bunch of turkey.
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Speaker 3: Michelle, that is an excellent suggestion. You're in the running for that. Thank you. We have the Turkey Flat Vineyard to give away twenty four pack of the two fifty mil turkey flat wine cans, the rose, the Pinot gree and the shred the Schiraz Grenac. You see that a lot now. With Holmes knocking down to Building five just before Rowie, Michelle says, Jim Jeffries. No, back in the day, everyone loved John Candy and I did not didn't find John Candy funny at all. Wow, Michelle, you love John Candy.
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Speaker 9: Nah?
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Speaker 2: He was boring. Oh he was funny.
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Speaker 3: Who's someone that's funny?
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Speaker 2: That Dangerfield was mad? He he was just a.
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Speaker 22: He was a classic. No, John Candy just thought he was fat and funny. You're not just because you're fat, You're not funny. Hey, on my nomination for Turkey of the week is anyone that has their birthday off.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking. Why would you do that? That is a bit who whoo?
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Speaker 22: Who would take a day off of work for their birthday and absolute tech.
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Speaker 3: Well, I would think that's a good nomination. I would think anyone who didn't want to have any part of their birthday might take that. You know, just leave day.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know what, what do the kids have the school off? Is your wife your day off? Does the dog have their day off? For you? Just have a day off to yourself.
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Speaker 3: I think they know. I think there are people who genuinely don't want to celebrate birthdays, and I think we should honor that.
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Speaker 22: I think significant ones, ones that have an O in front of it, odd numbers not worth it. Anything that's the visible by ten, yes, but everything else. My favorite birthday is when everyone forgets it.
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Speaker 3: So if it's too big a number that people won't forget it, you've got to make sure that you're not here.
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Speaker 22: We sell a rate sixties, fifties, forties, thirties, and twenty first.
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Speaker 3: I'm done now I've finished birthday.
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Speaker 2: What number was that one?
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Speaker 3: It was? I'm forty nine.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's just the nothing number. It's like a Tuesday and nothing day. So you took the day.
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Speaker 3: Off for forty nine, Well, well, were.
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Speaker 2: You left to have a week off for fifty.
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Speaker 3: No, in my heart of hearts, I may not be forty nine. Officially I may not be forty nine.
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Speaker 2: But okay, did you have a cake?
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Speaker 21: And all that?
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Speaker 3: Because I'm staying forty nine forever until I'm sixty.
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Speaker 2: So you're going to jump from forty nine to sixty.
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Speaker 3: But I'll be forty nine now for ten years.
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Speaker 2: Sixty is not a good number.
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Speaker 3: Fifty is worse.
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Speaker 2: No, it's not fifty. Was Magniver?
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Speaker 24: Really?
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Speaker 21: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I think fifty sixty on there?
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Speaker 2: I now feel old, I look old. I am old.
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Speaker 3: What's the penalty in football for the worst indiscretion you can do?
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Speaker 20: What?
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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Speaker 3: How many meters do you get? Fifty fifty? When's the first time you raise your bat in creget when it's fifty.
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Speaker 2: Here, that's fair call. But to nothing number that's big.
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Speaker 3: Sixty is the new fifty anyway, Let's not talk about that anyway.
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Speaker 22: You're a Turkey's round twenty Port are playing for the Douggie Cochran camp.
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Speaker 2: In other words, they're tanking. No one wants to say no one wants to say it.
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Speaker 22: No one wants to say it, But I did, and I have Dean Brogan Maddy Crouch, Eddie McGuire join us.
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Speaker 2: Four games left in the season.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Goodness me four?
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Speaker 3: How many come out?
02:07:30
Speaker 2: Well, how's my dad?
02:07:31
Speaker 3: It's my voice?
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Speaker 10: Four.
02:07:32
Speaker 3: I think the Crows will winning three of their last four. Couldn't care less, sneak into the top.
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Speaker 2: Couldn't care less.
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Speaker 22: I really care about is them in the finals? Judgments day, he's fired up. I don't know who cares. They'll beat Es than they'll beat Richmond. They'll probably get over Freemantle here. I mean, I don't know GWS last game.
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Speaker 3: They finish fifth.
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Speaker 22: Nothing matters other than September for them, and everything they should be doing in this month is that getting the team right, getting selection right, getting their midfield right, getting some grunt not holding up that teeth.
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Speaker 3: Thing shot out of a tea.
02:08:09
Speaker 2: Stands for turkey.
02:08:11
Speaker 3: Stephen right, you are a turkey for celeb Brian you won the Turkey. Congratulations, Enjoy the one
Speaker 1: Local topical fun.
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Speaker 2: This is Afternoons with Leith.
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Speaker 3: Forst's Good afternoon. Everyone, welcome along to the show. Thank you for tuning in on this gloomy Tuesday afternoon. If you'd like to join us A double two three, double O, double O, big show for you today. Were you ever bullied at school? We ever teased at school? It's pretty traumatizing. Spare a thought for the kids of today because they've got it so much worse. They are now dealing with nude photos of themselves being shared around. The problem is they're not real. It's not them in the photo, but because of AI, it now looks super realistic. So we'll speak about that shortly and find out what, if anything, can be done about it. We'll also have a look at Adelaide's worst hotspots for accidents. Have you had an accident? Do you know a particular road or intersection that is just an accident waiting to happen? You know? Shortly the top five will also tell you the age and gender of the driver in Adelaide who crashes the most, and we can even narrow it down to the color of the car that is most involved in accidents here in Adelaide. So we'll have a look at that. We will pay tribute today to the legend Bill Oddie of the Goodies, legendary member who passed away over nights this show. I don't know about you, but this show was such an enjoyable part of my childhood, maybe yours too. Adam Hills is a Goodies super fan. He's going to join me and a couple of years ago I spoke to the now sole remaining member of the Goodies, Graham Garden, and we'll replace some of that for you for those who missed it. We'll also talk about travel with Phil Hopman. Travel Today, it's Turkey Tuesday. I want to hear about unfunny people today as a part of Turkey Tuesday, because I don't know if you saw over the weekend, but Donald Trump bombed telling It not the only bombing he's doing on the weekend, but this was a big one of the speeches. He told a joke over the weekend and it didn't go down well. So we'll get you a list of unfunny people later in the show. And we have a very special musical guest for you today too. She has the voice of an angel. Katie Noonan will be on the show.
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Speaker 4: Crazy Crazy Ah.
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Speaker 3: So Katie's here on Thursday. She's performing at the Governor High Marsh, So we'll speak to Katie about that, and we'll also let you know how you can get along because we have a couple of doubles to this particular show, so that is something to look out for. Katie Noonan's going to join us. But if you want to be part of the show, eight double two to three double O double OW is my number. You can email if you wish on air at five double a dot com dot or if you're like you can send us a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Now I should say there will be a press conference at around one point thirty or a little after from the state government regarding bird flu and the cases here in SA, so we will bring you that as soon as we can, and of course Malaysia will be over everything as well throughout the afternoon on the half hour and on the hour. But we love your input. A double two to three double O, DOUBLEO. There's lots of things to talk about on the show today. Let's start though, Imagine the worst moment of your schooling life. Imagine there is a nude photograph of yourself that is being shared not just around your school, but around a number of schools. And the problem is that is not you in the photo. It is a fake AI. Fake pornography is now rampant, we're told in our schools, and the attempts to ban it are not working. The government is trying. There are repeat that efforts to ban the technology, but it is not working. Former Victorian police officer and cyber safety expert is Susan MacLean. She joins me this Southternoon from Cyber Safety Solutions. Lovely to have you on, Susan.
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Speaker 5: Thanks for the chat and I'm actually in sunny South Australia at the moment.
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Speaker 3: It must be there must be a little bit of sun where you are, Susan. I'm looking out over the hill, not a lot east of the city.
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Speaker 5: No, I'm in the CBD and it's dreary.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully you can get some sunshine before you leave us. Thanks for coming on. It's lovely to have you on. This is horrific, Susan, for all involved it is.
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Speaker 5: And look, it's not new. The issue of deep fake images of students has been around, probably in fairly epidemic proportions for the last two to three years, and as you stated, the harm is equal, if not greater, than if the images was real. But I will take you to task. And I really don't think the government is doing enough to ban the apps, because that is something that if the app was made illegal, the appstock wouldn't hosters. There are things that they could be doing better.
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Speaker 3: So I thought we'd talk about this Susan today, because whilst the five DOUBLEA audience aren't of school age, they might have children or grandchildren who are How easily accessible is this technology? How cheap is it? How simple is it for people to create fake needs of other people?
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Speaker 5: It is cheap and easy, and by cheap I mean free and it's easy. And I can guarantee that most of your listeners could do this should they choose to. It basically is find the app or find a product on the web, go into it. You've got to kick that you're over eighteen, so you can lie if you need to. But anyway you do that then it will normally say do you have permission to use the image? Because obviously you've got to upload something to get the app to work, so yes, and press a button and away you go. And you know, these are not what I would call perhaps aesthetically nice neod images like the Statue of David, like that sort of stuff. It's not that these are creating explicit pornographic poses and it's horrendous.
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Speaker 3: So, Susan, I had in my schooling years two cases that I can remember of a nude photo image different to today because we didn't have the Internet and computers in our day. So it was a genuine photo that had been taken on a camera where the role of film had been delivered to one of the photo labs, it had been printed off, and then it was shared around physically. So one was a girl from a boyfriend, and interestingly, there the boyfriend copped it far worse than the guil did because everyone realized and got into him for that. How unacceptable that was. The other was about a young man who had a photograph taken when he was drunk and that got passed around. I was stagging to read that. The numbers today so that Adelaide University is saying between sixteen and eighteen year old kids one in twenty five knew someone had experienced it themselves. They just knew of a case happening, So it's not like a one off isolation in a five year period. This is constant.
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Speaker 5: It is constant, it's continual. There is no one solution to this. And whilst they did say if we made the actual legal we can substantially reduce the offending, we need education as well, Like what possesses someone to think that this is a respectful and responsible use of technology. It is designed to harm, hurt, and humiliate. There's no other words to you.
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Speaker 3: Have you heard horrendous ages of kids being bullied this way?
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Speaker 5: Yes, the younger stuff had is year seven and it is mortifying. And you know, we've seen with some cases of cyberbullying the impact on the young person's mental health is such that they take their own lives. And whilst we know that that's not social media bullying in isolation, because suicide is very complex. The notion that many of your listeners might have about you know, the sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. That's gone, that's out with the dirty dishwater. Words do hurt, They've always hurt. We just didn't want to acknowledge that. I don't think many years ago and this sort of stuff is it's permanent, so it's there. It gets reshared, it gets recirculated, it gets rehatched. The volume of people that see it here it can respond to it is great. It's not just a photo, like you said, being shared around a group of people. The reach of this sort of content is horrible, and that of course adds to the level of harm.
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Speaker 3: Is there a sense of dismissal of the seriousness of it because it is fake and not real?
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Speaker 5: Or yes, yeah, yep, I think some people goals it's not real.
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Speaker 6: Who cares?
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Speaker 5: And you know what, I think we need to understand or if you don't understand, you know, in the early day of photo shop and all of that, it was pretty obvious that it was a fake image. The head never matched the body, so it's pretty easy to say that's fake, don't worry about it. But this is so good that it's normally not discernible to the naked eye, and so it is extremely realistic. And even when people go but it's not me, it's a fake, it is still embarrassing. It is still humiliating that person still has to show up at school the next day. And I can tell you now ninety nine percent of this doesn't happen at school at the back of the science lab. This is happening at home on a parent's watch. So we need parents to know what their kids are doing online to be able to talk to them about respectful and responsible use of technology. Because as much as a parent has a responsibility to keep their child safe, they also have a responsibility to ensure that their child is not inflicting harm on someone else.
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Speaker 3: It's a great point. Susan mcleaney's my guess, cyber safety solutions. The law us are pretty strict on this, are they not. Should you get caught?
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Speaker 5: Yes, and that's one of the you know, kick the box good things we've got. We are not scrambling for new laws like many other countries.
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Speaker 7: Of the world.
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Speaker 5: If the images of a child then it's class as child sexual abuse material. If it's of an adult, there are different crimes that can be applied here. There was a recent case, and I know there was one in New South Wales where a man in his late twenties was jailed for nine years for creating new images of twenty six women and uploading them. And I believe from what I remember reading, there was an eighteen year old in South Australia that was jailed for committing this crime as well. So we've got the after the event punishment, which is good, but that does not undo the harm.
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Speaker 3: So are people doing enough? A school's doing enough? Is the government doing enough? Is the e Safety Commissioner doing enough? Is there enough pressure on these social media giants to say, hey, this is just unacceptable.
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Speaker 1: But it's not so.
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Speaker 5: Much the social media platforms. It's the individual apps that is allowing the creation of the image. Mostly when it's shared in circulated new images do get flagged on platforms. I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but this particular issue with the Newdify apps is an app related issue first and foremost, rather than a social media platform issue. But again, why does someone think that this is the right thing to do? Like, why did they think it was a good idea to hurt, harm and humiliate normally someone they know? Because they don't tend to do it randomly. It is normal normally someone within their social circle or within their school circle. So yeah, schools do need to do more. They need to have expert education, not something that's fluffy and flowery. They need the students need to know clearly about this, about the potential consequences of this, and that includes the legal consequences. The Safety Commissioner has some powers and they can to a degree, particularly when the images of a child have the content removed off the Internet. But that's sitting at probably ninety eight percent success, so there's still that little bit that might stay there. But it's not one person's problem to solve. Everyone needs to buy into this and we have to have open and honest conversations around why this is not okay and what we can all do to call it out.
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Speaker 3: So AI intimate and sexual images more than doubled in eighteen months compared to the previous seven years combined four and five of girls. But I read too, Susan that they're saying that that number could be even worse, because you could understand people would be afraid of coming forward. Victims would be like, well, I don't want to bring this attention to myself.
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Speaker 5: No, And I think that with any statistics that's the e Safety Commissioner or even say Pole Release for example, you would really realistically triple it. There is shame, there's humiliation, and there's what's the point we know, any sort of sexual crime is very much under reported, so that includes this type of offending. So yeah, the numbers in reality will be much greater. And there is not a secondary school in South Australia that would not have had this occur, whether they know about it or not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's heartbreaking, isn't it. Before I let you go, Susan. A question from Jason from Salisbury East, far away. Jason, Susan's listening.
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Speaker 8: Yes, Susan, I'll do some youth work with teenage girls as much one of my day jobs. I want to doult you them up with the latest law part. Is it still the case that if a girl's like fifteen years old, in terms for fogas, she's see child porn. I teach the girls this. They think with my body, I see a bit.
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Speaker 5: So please don't use the term child pornography because that sort of indicates that it's a consensual sort of sexual image. So we've gone away from that, and it is images of chist sexual abuse or chist sexual abuse material. So that's really important if you're talking to young people to differentiate. But yes, you can't consensually share this if you are fourteen or fifteen and you're taking a new photo of your self sharing it, well, then you are manufacturing or making toss ex abuse images and you are transmitting it. Something to be aware of in South Australia, which is unique to South Australia is state law defines these images to be a child if the image is under sixteen. Under Commonwealth law which also applies in South Australia, that legislation is eighteen. So you know, the best advice is to make sure that young people understand that until they're an adult, it's not worth the risk of sharing these images.
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Speaker 3: Susan, what do we do? You've got the years of Adelaide, You've got the years of five double a listeners. What do we do as parents, as grandparents, as people associated with schools?
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Speaker 5: So we talk about it. We don't try to brush it under the carpet. We don't have conversations that are shameful. We encourage young people to be brave, to call it out and to tell if they've got themselves in a mess, then know that there is an adult that's going to help them. And silence is a perpetrator's best friend. So we have to be open and honest about this. We have to understand that, yes, whether we like it or not, it can happen. Young people need to know that they will be supported in coming forward to tell and make sure that the conversations continue just a normal part of conversation around. I heard this on the radio today. Have you heard about it? Have you seen it at your school? What would you do if it happened to you or your friends?
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Speaker 3: It's great advice. I have that conversation tonight with my own kids. Susan, thank you, appreciating enjoy time here in Adelaide.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Susan MacLean Cyber Safety Solutions, former Victorian police officer and now a cyber safety got a thought, how horrendous is that? Think of all that we went through at school, and yet that might have been to a much smaller audience. As I say, we had two cases of this in school. Was really interesting because everyone called the guy out for doing the wrong thing, so that photo of the young girl never really got shared. But the guy whose photo was taken during our school period, that did get shared because he was drunk at the time and people thought it was more jovial. But the effect on both of those was terrible. So imagine that not just goes around your school and your maybe group of friends, but around the entire school and multiple schools and online. So the Adelaide University in the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children found that one student in every classroom in this country, one kid in every class has personally experienced or knew a friend who had experienced AI generated image based abuse. It is a new former bullying that's going to be hard to stop, but conversations clearly what we need to have. Susan MacLean my guests.
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Speaker 1: Five Global at Afternoons with Leep Forest Well.
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Speaker 3: For eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. If you'd like to join us, we'll pay tribute to the great Bill Oddie from the Goodies who passed away overnights. Adam Ills is going to join us very shortly. Leanne's got an interesting point on the text. He said, length, I bet your China doesn't allow those texts. Our government could do something if they decided to. That. Reading between the lines, Leanne is exactly what Susan Klean was saying. When I mentioned that the government had tried to ban it, she kind of indicated, didn't she that maybe they have not tried enough but just terrific. I think it's a conversation worth having with your children, with your grandchildren, people that you know. I never thought it was that prolific. One student in every class and this one from Len said Microsoft allow these newdifying apps, surely they must be accountable, You would think so. You would think that there would be like Internet police. But as we know, there's a lot of bad things on the Internet. The government are trying to do what they can when it comes to young people on social media apps. But if it's an app that is not via a Facebook or an Instagram or a TikTok, it's just some rogue gap where people can create needs of others. Yeah, what are we doing? How is that not shut down in two seconds? So it's a good point. Maybe the pressure needs to come on from the government more. We'll take a break. Melwoysia has headlines for us at one point thirty Adam Hills to pay tribute to the Goodies and Bill Oddie Neck.
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Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Leaf Forest.
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Speaker 9: Good take a little good advice tri to parade days.
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Speaker 4: You can any one.
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Speaker 10: It's what Apple turns you on.
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Speaker 3: The theme song alone just brings back nostalgia and joy of childhood. Sad to hear and read. Overnight, the British actor and broadcast a Bill Ottie has passed away at the age of eighty five, best known to Australian audiences through the magnificence of The Goodies nineteen to seventies UK TV show that was always on the ABC Graham Garden. The Scott Borne comedian now the last surviving member of the Goodies trio after the earlier passing of Tim Brooke Taylor. My next guest is a legend of comedy here in this country, and I remember years ago he and I chatting on this radio station where we found out that we were both mutual super fans of the Goodies. It gives me great pleasure to welcome back Adam Hills to the show. Welcome Adam, nice to be back. I guess you know. Age catches up with everyone, as does ill health. But sad news. With Bill's passing overnight, it.
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Speaker 11: Is really sad newsn't It's funny that we talk about the coincidence of you and I are realizing that we love the Goodies. I don't think we're in a small subset. I think you know I put out a post yesterday on Instagram and Rhys Darby, the amazing New Zealand comedian, commented and said, you know this one was he was really feeling this one. And on Facebook today he posted a photo of himself wearing a Goodies T shirt and I responded saying, I think I had exactly the same T shirt. I think if you're of a certain generation in Australia and New Zealand and you were in any way into comedy, the Goodies were formative.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I was talking to my mother about this, Adam. So the Goodies were on from nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty two. Now in eighty two, Adam, I'm six, So it was replayed so often on the ABC and growing up in the Southeast it kind of it sets a time of the eighties where as a family we sat down Mum, dad, my brother and I every night watching dinner six o'clock ABC, and we seem to watch the Goodies year after year after year.
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Speaker 11: Well, and I think that's the interesting thing about Australia and New Zealand with the Goodies is that, as far as I know, in the UK, it was an adult show, and there was some you know, adult, real adult content that was edited out for Australia and it was put out at six o'clock. So you know, in the UK, it's a slightly different feel for the Goodies than we have here because we grew up with it. So in Australia and New Zealand it was a kids show and so you know, like you know, you were six, I would have been twelve in eighty two, really formative years and so much of what I know about the UK, so many in jokes, all came from the Goodies.
00:21:25
Speaker 12: Yes, I still remember, you know, a shot of Sydney Harbor and it said Earl's Court and I had no idea why that was funny until I got to London and realized Earl's Court is where all the Australians go.
00:21:38
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just so much of my comedy was informed by the Goodies.
00:21:42
Speaker 3: So as a lover of comedy myself, but someone like yourself who does it for a living and as a craft, tell me about that. Because they had slapstick and they had visual gags and it was satire and music was such an important part too.
00:21:54
Speaker 11: Well they won, you know, they they want to I want to say a silver rose at the long tro TV Festival. I've probably got that wrong, but like it's an international television festival that celebrates the best comedy or best television in the world, and they won I think a silver for one of their episodes, which is a huge accolade, you know. And you're right, some of the stuff they did, some of the slapstick they did, some of the they would parody silent films, it really was quite genius. And I think because it was seen as maybe a bit of a kid's show, maybe it wasn't appreciated as much at the time. And then also, you know, there were wrangles over replaying it and who owned the rights and all that kind of stuff, so we didn't get after the early eighties, we didn't get constant replays to remind us how great it was. So yeah, I think and again because of that, those who love it really hold it dear to our hearts.
00:22:52
Speaker 3: And as you say, there's part of the vernacular or if you you know, I go to a local butcher here in the central Michael Antonio con he has black pudding in his window. Straight away, that's all I think about, Adam. If I see a squeezy sauce bottle that's in the shape of a tomato. That's all I think about.
00:23:11
Speaker 11: I mean, look, I don't know if Jack White of the White Stripes named the song Ecky Thump after but I wouldn't be surprised.
00:23:22
Speaker 3: If he did not at all. You would have this conversation, I'm sure within your industry and with friends too, what's better American versus UK comedy? I think when you look at Bill Otti's life, so in the sixties, he's a writer for John Cleese and Palen and Terry Jones of Python, you've got the Python Boys and then the Goodies branch off. So it's Bill and Graham and Tim they branch off and do their own thing. But you know, in a chess game of comedy, that alone, those two pieces alone, Python and the Goodies Adam, that's hard to beat.
00:23:49
Speaker 11: Oh, it is hard to be. And you know, I'm so incredibly lucky that I've crossed pars with them a number of times now. Bill was on my talk show, and when I had Adam Hills tonight on the ABC, I think he was one of the guests that we were most excited to have on the show and he was so lovely. And then one year in Edinburgh during the festival, I was sharing a venue with Tim and Graham. They were on two shows before me in the same venue, and so I would turn up for my show just as they had finished their show, and we ended up every day we would have a cup of tea together in the bar. They'd tell me how their show went, and then I'd get ready for my show, and I just I would tinge myself every day that I was friends then with Tim and Graham, and I'm still friends with Graham.
00:24:38
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, heroes becoming your friends, which is all. So you start, Adam Hills, is my guest. You started your career here in Adelaide at SAFM many many years ago. Did the Pirate Radio episode do anything for you? Like every radio person I speak to, we all talk about that episode too well.
00:24:56
Speaker 11: I think it was a combination of yes, yes, was it? And now a walk in the Black Forest was the soul of this consolation?
00:25:07
Speaker 8: Just I said.
00:25:08
Speaker 11: For me, I think it was a combination of Kenny Everett and the goodies. Kenny Everett also, I mean he worked on Pirate Radio, so and he's when he's got a sketch show. It was almost like a radio show on television. So you throw that and then Graham and Tim and a giant cat and Ecky Thump and you know, a flood of custards. I mean, we're so lucky. We're so lucky in Australia that we got that and that you know, you were talking about the difference between British and an American comedy. Some British comedy made it over to America, but they never got the Goodies and we're just I think one of the joys of growing up in Australia in that time period is that we got the best of both worlds. We've got you know, for me, we got Mash and we got the Goodies and you know, even to this day we got friends, but we also got Monty Python. We got everything.
00:26:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And you talk about Kenny, so I think even as young kids, we knew that Kenny was rude, but the Goodies never were rude. Like they might have had jokes that our parents were laughing at them, might have gone over our heads. But it's not until you watch the DVD box set now where there's a couple of gags of kind of South African tourism that maybe donate as well. But the rest of the show, I mean, forty years on, fifty years on, Adam still as funny today as it was then.
00:26:27
Speaker 11: And it's funny. I was reading something. I was reading an article today about that South African Tourism episode. I mean, I'd have to go back and watch it, but even the article I was reading saying it was ahead of its time, and actually, you know, when you look at what it was actually saying to kids about apartheid, it was kind of making a point. So but you're right, they weren't well they actually they were rude, but the rude bits were cut out. That's what I found fascinating later in life is to find out that, you know, the Goodies went to where I think at maybe eight thirty at night, maybe even later in the UK, yep and the ABC would chop out the rude bits and put it to air of the kids show here. And I think because of that it influenced a different generation. And that's why there's so much, you know, such an outpouring of love for Bill because and also Bill was you know, Bill was the one we wanted to be.
00:27:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the other two were in suits and shirt and button and Tyler Graham and Tim dressed. But he was a bit whow wasn't he Like the shaggy hair and the beard and the unusual clothes and yeah, he.
00:27:28
Speaker 11: Was absolutely And he was the one that did the song. You know, he sang Funky given he sang the Goodies theme song as well. Yeah, he just and so his name was Oddie, Like it couldn't be more British and comedy.
00:27:42
Speaker 3: It kind of feels sad though, Adam, like it's part of our childhood. It means we're all getting older. I guess you know now the fact that Graham is the last one, you know, in his early eighties, it's kind of it's the end of an ear sadly.
00:27:54
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, and I think the fact that we lost Tim during COVID it kind of got his death kind of got lost in lockdowns and the whole world shutting down a little bit. And you know, you're right now that there's only Graham left. I only saw Graham a couple of months ago. Actually he runs a comedy festival in Bristol, a slapstick comedy festival, and in fact I sent him an email yesterday before I found out about Bill, because they're releasing some Goodies books and he asked me if I would write a forward to one of them. And yeah, you know, every time I see Graham, like I said, I feel how I think how lucky I am to count him as a friend. But also, you know, every time I see him, he's a little bit more frail. He's walking with a walking stick, and it just, yeah, we're in that age now where our heroes are starting.
00:28:45
Speaker 8: To leave us.
00:28:46
Speaker 3: But it is nice to go back, and it's nice to think of not just the comedy of that time, but also what was happening in families and lund rooms around South Australia or in Australia where at that time on the ABC, you know, for us in the Southeast, we only had two channels to choose from. So we're very lucky that Mum and dad. And it was almost a staple, wasn't it of the Goodies into Kenny Everett or the Goodies into Doctor.
00:29:06
Speaker 11: Who that period that period of time. I remember so vividly the Goodies Kenny Everett, Doctor Who, maybe the Benny Hill Show, I don't think it was on at that time of Day, the Two Ronnies.
00:29:23
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, Horridge, are you being so all of that? Like just the best, the very best of British comedy?
00:29:30
Speaker 11: Amazing Tommy Cooper, Yeah, we really, you know, there is a whole generation, like I said, of Australians that are just so heavily influenced by that period of British comedy, and we should count ourselves lucky.
00:29:43
Speaker 3: That we were great to speak Adam, thank you, appreciate.
00:29:46
Speaker 11: It, lovely, too lovely to share the memories.
00:29:50
Speaker 3: Sorry for your lost two of you, dear friends. So that's the great Adam Hills, super fan of the Goodies. Bill Oddie has passed away at the age of eighty five, and for many us you would remember him from the nineteen seventy Hard to believe there was seventy six episodes. It's a bit like when you look at some of the great shows like Faulty Towers, you think it kind of lasted for years and years and years. It was on for twelve years, nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty two, seventy six episodes, but again I remember watching them through the mid to late eighties too, So rest in peace to the great Bill Oddie. After the break, we will replay a chat that I had with Graham Garden a couple of years ago on five double A. So he is now the last sole remaining Goodie with the passing of Tim Brooke Taylor who died back in April of twenty twenty due to COVID. So you'll enjoy that if you're a Goodies fan. We'll take a short break. It's seventeen to two. Back after this.
00:30:45
Speaker 2: You realize we are just about do you take a mouthful? But what is probably liquified nerve gas.
00:30:50
Speaker 13: It is tomato soup.
00:30:52
Speaker 1: It's bright green, so the tomatoes went ripe, five double A Afternoons with Forest.
00:31:00
Speaker 3: Fourteen minutes to two. Just before we get to the interview that we had with Graham Garden a couple of years ago. In tribute to Bill Oddie, Steve said, rest in peace to the Ecky Thimp Grandmaster. This one from Robert said, I remember Eggy Thilp and the Strawberry Jam and Scones, I mean Scones. Cole was a fan of Basil Brush and that British comedy of the eighties. He can keep your Goodies memories coming in if you wish a double two to three double O double ow we can send a text zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. But sadly now, with the passing of Bill Oddie, as well as the earlier passing of Tim Brooke Taylor, that leaves just one Graham Garden.
00:31:41
Speaker 1: Goody goody, Yes.
00:31:48
Speaker 3: Fifty years ago this month the Goodies debut on BBC the great late Tim Brooke Taylor, Bill Oddie and my guest this morning, Graham Garden Obe they brought us the good East. Graham joins me this morning. Graham, thank you so much for your time. It is such a thrill and honor to speak to you.
00:32:08
Speaker 14: Well, it's a great thrill for me to talk to Australia because I know, having been to visit you down there, how very much appreciated we are. We appreciate that in return, you are very loved.
00:32:20
Speaker 3: How are you going? I mean, COVID has a mention has been difficult for everyone, and for you guys more so, I guess with the passing of Tim.
00:32:27
Speaker 14: Yes, that was quite a shock and yeah, that was quite difficult.
00:32:31
Speaker 3: I spoke to Adam Hills Graham. I was on here the day the news came through and it gave us. I guess when greats of the entertainment industry pass, it does give people a chance to go back and revisit and watch some of the old shows or listen to the old music. And we were talking about our favorite episodes and Adam Hills brought up a great point. He said that for him, like me, and like so many the goodies, for us, it was our introduction to comedy, and it really shaped and molded our sense of humor. I guess you hear that.
00:32:57
Speaker 15: A lot.
00:33:00
Speaker 14: Explains a lot. Yes, I know Adam has been a fan from way back, and obviously we have big fans of his too, But I guess yes. And I remember when I was in Australia at the stage door we used to get, you know, people would come up for autographs and have a chat and things, and there were two huge blokes with beards and bests lurking in the shadows, and one of them came over to me and said, thank you for making a pretty terrible childhood bearable. He didn't use the word terrible, and that really touched me. I thought, gosh, you know that it's quite quite a compliment.
00:33:46
Speaker 3: Can you believe it's five decades, Graham of the Goodies.
00:33:51
Speaker 14: It is hard to believe. It's hard to believe that it's five decades and we're still talking about it. You know, I'm surprised since in this country it's not been exposed quite the way it has in Australia, but people still seem to remember it, and a lot of stuff on Twitter and all sorts. The DVDs have helped out, of.
00:34:13
Speaker 3: Course, Yeah, be can you walk us through. So the three of you are at Cambridge University. Tim is studying law, You're doing medicine, Bill's doing English. How does the Goodies come about? Because it's true the Monty Python Boys were at university at the same time.
00:34:29
Speaker 14: We were all pretty much at the same time. Yes, and so Tim and Bill were just a year ahead of me, and they did a student We all joined this thing called the Footlights Club, which was a club of undergraduates who put on reviews. And we were very fortunate having an actual club room that had a little bar at one end and little stage at the other, and a couple of times each term we put on what we call smoking concerts when people would try out their sketches and write new material and then by the end of the year of the best bits that had you know surfaced were put together as a review which went on the stage at the Arts Theater in Cambridge and then you know, anywhere else that would take it. And Tim and Bill were in a show called My originally Clump of Plints I think, but became Cambridge Circus and that was very successful. It went on, had a London run, went to America and went on Broadway and went to New Zealand somehow skipped over Australia I'm afraid. So that was Tim and Bill, John Clee as Graham Chapman, and when they came back they had graduated back then I joined them making a radio program which followed on from that called I'm Sorry, I'll Read that Again, and a young whipper snapper called Derek Idol was writing for that as well. So we were all together doing you know radio and then then we sort of split into groups and Eric and John and Graham Chapman did well. Eric first of all joined up with Mike and Terry from Oxford University and did Do Not Adjust on the TV and then they met and they joined up with John and Graham and did Monty Python Tim and I did a show called Broaden Your Mind. Bill came and joined that, and then after two series of that, it was a sketch show and Monty Python had kind of cut the ground from under the sketch show by then, so we said, we'd like to do it a bit different and do it with a plot each week, you know, make it, make it a story, but using the silly comedy that we put into our sketches. And BBC said, all right, make a series. They didn't even ask for a pilot. We just were given a budget and told to go and do it. So and that was The Goodies.
00:37:00
Speaker 3: November nineteen seventy. As you say The Goodies, did you know straightaway? Did you know? It was like comedy lightning in a bottle with the three of you?
00:37:08
Speaker 14: No, we didn't, because when we did it, we started by filming the outside sequences, so they're done in little bits at a time. There's no sort of flow, and you just did one gag at a time, and of course nobody laughs because you're not supposed to when you're on a set. So we did these sort of two or three weeks filming with nobody laughing at anything. I had no idea whether it was going to work or not. Then we saw those bits cut together, we thought, well, that's quite funny. And then we did it in front of a studio audience and they were with us really from the go. And the first series, of course we had a live audience free show, but every week we had a new audience and they hadn't seen the show before because it hadn't been broadcast, so we had to kind of explain the whole premise to them. I hope that they would would join in with the silliness, which on the whole they did.
00:38:06
Speaker 3: I'm speaking of Graham Garden, Grahame. There are so many great moments of this show that I mean, nine series, seventy six episodes. Is there one episode or one bit that stands out to you? It's a question that when you talk to Goodies fans, everyone has a different episode that they love, or there is a moment that they love. I'd be fascinated as the brains behind it. Is there one for you that stands out?
00:38:31
Speaker 14: I've always well, I always find it difficult naming the best episode because I haven't seen them for so long. I don't think I have a favorite episode. I have favorite bit. I must say, I think the film sequence at the end of the Movies episode is one of my favorite bits. I really enjoyed the political one we did where Tim turned into Ivita Temita and have the famous crime and me and Argentina. But there were so many bits and pieces, and as I say, a lot of the shows haven't seen for a long time, and when we have seen them, you suddenly remember and think, oh, well, gosh, that was a good bit.
00:39:13
Speaker 3: Were you surprised at how much it became part of popular culture? I mean, I speak to Tony O'Connell, he's a butcher here in Adelaide. We were talking about the black pudding in his window at his store, because it reminds us of Icky Thump you talk about anytime I hear the Beg's, I don't think of the Begs. I think of Tim wearing a bath plug, walking down the street with brill creaming is here. It's amazing how much it's become part of, you know, common pop culture.
00:39:40
Speaker 14: Well, you know, you could say that we've spoiled pop culture for a lot of people, but yes, well, I mean that was the idea behind the show, was that it would reflect pop culture it was in the end of satirical show that it sent up whatever was going on in the world at the time, whether it was movies or politics or you know, whatever trend there was going we tended to incorporate it and send it up.
00:40:08
Speaker 3: And is a young young boy growing up in Australia. We used to have it at six o'clock. It was tea time, so we'd sit around as a family. We had two channels where I lived, so we would watch the ABC religiously. We saw every episode year after year because they would keep playing it and we always got a real thrill grame too when Australia got a mention. It's odd now watching it with the Rolf Harris mentions. It did always give us a great thrill because we loved, you know, the patriotism that you would have in the show with the union jack boxes and all the rest of it. But anytime Australia got to mention, it was a huge thrill.
00:40:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:40:40
Speaker 14: I don't think we're very nice about Australia most of the time, where I can't remember, but yes, yes, we had a lot of Australia gags, I'm sure, and well I was as famously the Rolf Harris episode Yeah, yeah, which I don't see being repeated anytime soon now.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: You, I mean, you had an incredible career with television and radio and the theater. For us, you build team are always going to be the Goodies, and people just hearing you this morning, their hearts will be swelling with the memories of the good East.
00:41:13
Speaker 14: The Goodies was terrific fun to do, and we were given so much freedom by the BBC and so much support. I mean, we've occasionally been moaned about them not repeating the shows, but what they did for us was extraordinary and at the time that we made it, everything was in the house. You know, the visual effects were made by BBC people, and the makeup and the costumes and everything was made within the BBC, and you know, the whole departments. They used to get together and have these wonderful meetings before we went filming to really make sure everybody understood exactly what we were trying to do, and that was terrific. It had its downside, you know, when you're standing out in the middle of a field dressed as a rabbits pouring rain, discussing whether you've come into the shop from the right or left. You think this is no job for a grown man. But it was very, very satisfying and it was good fun doing the music and the book and everything else as well.
00:42:15
Speaker 3: I would urge everyone to get onto YouTube, pick up the DVDs if you can so you can watch them. But there is so much content on YouTube and online as well. Nineteen seventy November the BBC, Timbrooke, Taylor, Bill Ottie and my guest this morning against such a thrill. Thank you so much, Graham.
00:42:30
Speaker 14: Garden, Thank you, thank you. It's been a pleasure.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: Thank you, Milp. There's a bit on this Tuesday afternoon bird flu cases, New Premier and Victoria. You can talk about either of those if you wish any other issue that's on your mind. A double two three, double O double oh. We'll get to your calls and text very shortly. Anyone who's on the roads of Adelaid will know if you're listening to us right now as you're driving, or if you're at home or you're at work you're relaxing but you've had to make it commute, you would know that there are some hot spots in Adelaide that are no good well. Amy have told us officially now because they've named our worst hot spot. It is the Amy Crash Index, and the crown has been announced that Northeast Road in Modbury is our most unwanted hot spot in Adelaide. In fact, there's a lot of data to come out of this that we can get through with Steve Cratchley, who is the AIMA Motor Insights and Operations Manager, Steve Lovely to have you on. Thank you for joining us, good A, how are you doing well? It's not an honor that you would necessarily want, but there you go. Modbury gets the ground.
00:43:37
Speaker 7: It's not a great crown at all, but it's great to actually be able to share that information so we can actually get some awareness out there and encourage drivers to actually either give a bit more leeway to their current front or maybe pay a bit more attention when they're in some of these hotspots as we call them.
00:43:52
Speaker 3: Before we get to the hot spots and we talk about like the age and gender and color of cars and all the rest of it that you've found as part of this, how do you do it? How do you work out your crash index?
00:44:03
Speaker 7: We work through near four hundred thousand claims from the last twelve months during twenty twenty five, and we look at where the common crash hotspots are. We look at the time today, the types of vehicles involved. We're obviously not not trying to name or shame any individual areas or cars or drivers or anything like that, but it's more to give general information to governments, to state governments, federal governments, etc. To try and help improve some of those road conditions, but also to help drivers understand what are the leading causes for crashes, and often it's minor crashes that can be most inconvenient.
00:44:35
Speaker 3: Is it fair to say it's not just an individual road sometimes, too, Steve, it can just be an area where there might be similar characteristics. I guess when it comes to a.
00:44:44
Speaker 7: Hotspot absolutely where you've got a lot of intersections, a lot of turning on merging, where there's a lot of decision making needed to be done by different drivers. And also, depending on the time of day, you sort of get that influx of information over where you've tried to drive home. You may have the kids in the backseat, you're trying to get to the shopping So in those of the situations, we really encourage drivers just to allow maybe an extra five minutes to get home or to get to the shops, and give yourself time to make those decisions. Where it may be turning across traffic, or you're coming to a roundabout or an intersection which is quite congested, just give yourself a bit extra time to actually judge what's happening and make the correct decision rather than having probably a very bad day.
00:45:28
Speaker 3: Is the crash index all about negativity? Are there any positives to come out of it before we get into the nitty gritty of where it's going bad? Is there anything we can hang our hat on stave today?
00:45:37
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, certainly so. Part of it. We do look at our Amy Driver Rewards technology and it does show that Adelaide drivers have got an excellent result for speeding, so you're not a speeding area. You actually drive well within the speed limits, which is great. But we do unfortunately also capture some turning as was some of the lowest scoring behaviors, So where you're crossing roads or turning ride from crossing intersection something like, that's where we do see some of these unfortunate failure to give way type accidents.
00:46:05
Speaker 3: If you can hear that noise, Steve, that's all of Adelaide nodding in agreement with everything you're saying. All right, let's get to your top five. The top five crash hotspots here in Adelaide, according to the Amy Crash Index. Number one is Northeast Road at Modbury. Is there an intersection there that's worst?
00:46:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the Northeast Road and Golden Grove Road. It's the most common crash type. There's failure to give way unfortunately.
00:46:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are what are they kind of impatient or they're trying to give way, some aren't giving way that it'd just be all over the shop. Yep, that's it.
00:46:38
Speaker 7: And time of day of an afternoon especially, we're in a rash trying to get to the shopping or pick the kids up from school, things like that. It's just you know, you're always under time constraints and time pressure these days, I think, so just try and give yourself that a little bit extra time to get there.
00:46:53
Speaker 3: Number two is South Road at Edwardstown. What are we doing there and what intersection?
00:46:58
Speaker 7: It's South Road and street and unfortunate that's a nose to tails. So that's quite often where people are approaching traffic lights through a good way or stop signed perhaps, and they're not looking through that current front see what's happening in front of them. They're just waiting for that current front to maybe break and not leaving enough room to break for yourself. And I know from my early days of driving, many many moons ago, my first crash was actually a nose to twel accident where I was driving along a beautiful surf side road and looking at the ocean for a moment and then looked ahead and all the cars had stopped. So I was in one of the situations where I just hadn't given enough room to stop.
00:47:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how many people are doing that because I think they can make the lights they're expecting to get across, but the car in front isn't.
00:47:39
Speaker 13: That's it.
00:47:39
Speaker 7: And if you look through that car and you may see the light change to orange, and the car in front then may suddenly break. And if you've got that extra bit of room and you can see that happening before they even start breaking, you'll then give yourself that extra time to try and slow down the stop.
00:47:53
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been to Adelaide a recent time, stay. But now with the roadworks on South Road it's even worse. So am I challenge for number one next year?
00:48:00
Speaker 9: We think it could. It could be.
00:48:02
Speaker 3: North Terrace in the city is number three.
00:48:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's another failure to give way on the corner of North Terrace and King William Street and Fayer to give way seems to be a common theme we're seeing in Adelaide, and it's more Adelaide than driven than some of the other cities unfortunately.
00:48:18
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to think here that intersection North Terrace and King William that would be people wanting to go left to go to the Festival theater, right into the CBD itself for to go on. So again that's an impatience thing, probably because you've got on pedestrians, you've got buses, you've got a lot of traffic in that area.
00:48:33
Speaker 7: That's right, leave multiple road users, pedestrians, multiple decision making points there. They can get quite confusing, especially if you're in that rush period.
00:48:42
Speaker 3: West Terrace is number four in the city.
00:48:45
Speaker 7: Yes, West Terrace and Hindley Street, So I think that's sort of probably maybe the bit of the nightlife there on Hindley Street maybe getting involved that fayure to give way.
00:48:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the McDonald's there Onhearley that everyone knows, so they'll be trying to get down to again. That's a difficult road, university students, the nightlife on the on the eastern side of that. And finally, this will come as no surprise to a lot of people that drive it a lot, and that would be Port Road at heind Marsh.
00:49:09
Speaker 7: That's right Port Road and South Road and that one's a very common nose detail type incident. So when we again see those people not leaving enough breaking room or cars in front having to break suddenly because of the light's changing, but they won't expecting. So it's really again leaving that little bit extra gap in front of you. You may think it looks too much, but at times when you need it, it could really save an incident there.
00:49:31
Speaker 3: It's interesting you look at all those intersections as you say everything that you're judging people on speeding, distraction, acceleration, breaking and turning. You're doing all of those there because people are impatient and don't want to wait at the lights for another two minutes potentially, so they run the risk of any of those five particular characteristics.
00:49:51
Speaker 7: And if we just give ourselves an extra five minutes or ten minutes to get home or get to the shops, whatever the case may be, it means we get there safely. It means we haven't had an accident, and everyone everyone to get home. Say whether you're insured with Amy or any other insurance, it really doesn't matter. What we're trying to do is encourage all road users to have better outcomes with their journeys.
00:50:09
Speaker 3: So obviously you want us to take more care at intersections, anticipate traffic. Maybe you just leave that bigger gap so that you don't go, you know, tail to nose, and then that will help you out when it comes to busy traffic.
00:50:22
Speaker 7: That's right, And especially when you look at the peak praying times and it's those afternoons one to four point thirty, you know, when you're doing school runs or you're racing to get to the shops before maybe that school run. And then worse days for Fridays. I think everyone's got the weekend on their minds, so they're sort of thinking, you know, what are we doing this weekend, rather than actually the task at hand.
00:50:40
Speaker 3: You're about to upset the core group of five Douba listeners here, Steve, what is the worst driver age and gender? Please?
00:50:50
Speaker 7: Unfortunately for Adelaide it was sixty five year old plus and mail drivers. So it's unfortunate statistics. But we do see this sometimes with of the largest cities, and it could be that we're seeing a lot of older drivers driving a lot more these days, and maybe they're making poorer decisions because they're getting more distracted with so much activity happening around them.
00:51:12
Speaker 3: You know, that's our core demo, sixty five plus males, Steve, I'm not going to get out of the building alive today. But they might blame there might be a number of reasons why, but they might blame some of the other drivers there too, because I guess when you're sixty five plus, you've driven for a lot of years, so correct correctly.
00:51:29
Speaker 7: And I know I've had that argument with my father many a time. He used to be a truckee and certainly has driven for a lot of years, and he argues that he's one of the safest drivers on the roads, but he's of course had a few accidents over the years and these days. He had to stop driving recently, but in the last few years he was driving, he certainly had a bit of I think impatience when he got to intersections or trying to get through roundabouts, that sort of thing. And you can understand at the time, we're all trying to get there, get through the day as quickly as possible, or get to that shopping center or an appointment like that. And again, I think it's just that time constraint, that time pressure. We all feel the time, so better to just give yourself, as I said, an extra few minutes and you'll get there safely.
00:52:08
Speaker 3: Which vehicle manufacturer has the most crashes in Adelaide, Well, it's.
00:52:14
Speaker 7: Not surprising, I think because the sheer volume that they sell. But Turds are probably the largest that we see in our database, followed by Mazda's Hold and Mitchbiddy and Hord And surprisingly we used to encourage a lot of customers that white was the safest vehicle, but now every second car on the road seems to be white. Yes, so it's no surprising that we're seeing white, silver and gray cars coming.
00:52:34
Speaker 13: Through the data.
00:52:34
Speaker 7: Is the most common colored vehicles it crashes these days.
00:52:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting, isn't I guess that you would say volume of cars that are that color, probably more likely to But has that always been the thing where people thought that it was safer to drive a white car because you're easier to identify.
00:52:50
Speaker 7: In the older days, yes, and it probably still is. It's safe in probably some situation. Certainly sort of early evenings, white cars were much more easy to see than say, dark cars, that sort of thing. But with so many white cars on the road, I think these days every second car is a white car. We used to have a very multi colored car park that we've now gone to very light and with the heat in Australia, it's obviously not surprising that white cars reflect the most heats, so therefore they're probably cooler then parked outside for the day.
00:53:18
Speaker 3: We used to play a game as a family stave called Spotto, where we saw a yellow car and you had to call it out. We just you don't see yellow cars anymore.
00:53:26
Speaker 16: No, that's right.
00:53:26
Speaker 7: There used to be a lot of taxis in some states were yellow. In Germany, I know they always laugh when they see a yellow car get down the production line because that's taxis in Germany. Yes, so yeah, But in Australia we rarely saw yellow cars and I drive a couple. I've got two red cars in my garage and you know, people sort of laugh thinking, you know, I must love red. But it was just by sheer coincidence. But certainly it's a very it was a very colorful car park, but we've now gone to a much bland or I think car park, especially when colors like white and silver and gray. Quite often there's sort of no cost options when you purchase those vehicles.
00:54:00
Speaker 3: So I thought red cars always go faster, so maybe that'll help you out in traffic. Before we get a final summation from his Steve interesting texta and one of our listeners, they said it should be advised people get their eyes checked as your distance perception changes over years when it comes to eye problems and cataracts, etc. I've just had mind done leaked and my distance perception has changed massively. Maybe that's something for people to look at too, if they find themselves in a bingle.
00:54:25
Speaker 7: It's certainly something that I think the state regulators and doctors can certainly have those discussions with families. And if you do feel that your death perception is changing, it's certainly worth while having a chat to your optimologists or your doctor because it could be something more serious. So not just for driving, but for everyday help. It's something worth while to get checked.
00:54:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got family members who now won't drive at certain times of the day because they don't feel as comfortable as previously, you know, whether it's early in the morning or late at night. Our takeaway from all of this, Steve, you've got the years of adelaide. What should we be doing better on our roads?
00:54:58
Speaker 7: Just allowing a little bit more time when you're going from point A to point B, give a bit extra space between you and the car in front to allow you to break if need be. And if you're turning across traffic, just make sure the GAP's large enough to get through and with plenty of room. Don't rush, don't try and squeeze through a narrow gap. Give yourself plenty of room and that way you'll get there in one piece. You'll have a much better day and everyone else will.
00:55:21
Speaker 8: Be safe on the roads as well.
00:55:22
Speaker 3: Well done. Thank you for that, Steve, fascinating insight great, thank you appreciate it. That's Steve Cratchley Amy Motor INSIGHT's an operation manager. They have done their crash index Crown for twenty twenty six, so from the first to January and the thirty onest to December last year, the best part of four hundred thousand motor insurance claims there at Amy were lodged and they had a look of those eight thousand, three hundred claims across Adelaide and the top five intersections Northeast Road at Modbury Northeast and Golden Grove, South Road and Edwardstown or Edwards Street there in the city at Edwardstown North Terrace and King William Street, West Terrace and Heinley Street or Port Road and South Road. Have you got another area that you'd like to add to that list? Do you drive through any of those on a regular basis and you can attest to how bad it is? Eight double two three double O DOUBLEO. There might be another one that we should add to the list. We've all, I'm sure got our issues when it comes to some of the places here in Adelaide. If you'd like to have you say eight double two three double double OW is my number. Nineteen minutes after two, we'll take a short break. We'll get to your calls and texts on the other side, and Julie Collins has just spoken to the Federal Agricultural Minister. We know there are twenty seven cases now of HS five bird flu, so we'll let you hear.
00:56:44
Speaker 1: That after this five double a afternoons with Leak Forest.
00:56:49
Speaker 3: Thank you Jen for your text message. King William Street and North Terrace has a bus turning lane that goes right from King William into North Terrace. It confuses many because they don't know what's happened, and the rest don't want to be struck or stuck behind the bus. That's a good point, Jen, Maybe that's why he gets onto the list of top five. There must be other intersections. Are the roads other parts of Adelaide that you don't enjoy from a traffic point of view. You welcome to let us know a double two to three double o double oh. Before we get to your calls, Julie Collins has just spoke the Australian Center for Disease Preparedness confirming positive cases of H five bird flu seven sea birds on the Limestone Coast down in God's Country. Here he is the Federal Agricultural Minister.
00:57:32
Speaker 17: To reiterate, we're talking twenty seven wild birds. These have all been found along the coastal birds on Australia and at this stage we have no evidence of any mass mortalities, nor is there any evidence of it being in our poultry or agricultural systems, and the risk to human health remains low, which is a really important message for Australians. The other really important message here, of course is if people see these dead birds or other dead animals, to make sure that they avoid touching them, that they do report them and they do guide through to BIRDSLU dot cab dot au to that phone number to report us okay.
00:58:05
Speaker 3: So all of the birds are greater crested turns. One of them was found in Cape Jaffer, one was found at Port McDonald and five around the South End Jetty just near Beachport. Of the five birds collected from the South End Jetty, four of them were sick and one was deceased and both of the other birds were found deceased, so they were reported to PERSA. Samples were collected there and then they were suspected and they've now been confirmed by the CSI ROW in Geelong following the testing that he's done. So more genetic sequencing to be finalized to determine whether local transmission is now occurring in Australia. What will be interesting, I think, is whether this will become a little bit like we did with COVID and perhaps with the algill bloom, whether we'll get fixated on numbers again. So I guess that's the We want to keep bringing you the information and keep you up to with what's going on. But remember we used to do that with the amount of cases, the amount of people that will hospitalize, the amount of people that were doing this, and that what's the difference between sixty birds and an actual bird flu? I guess so that we don't get too concerned or too overwhelmed, but that might be something to keep in mind. If you see any sick or dead birds, first and foremost, do not touch them. Record what you see and then you can always report it to to the Emergency Animal Disease Hotline. That number is one eight hundred six seventy five triple eight, one eight hundred six seventy five triple eight, or you can go to birdflu dot SA dot gov dot au leth. I think the oldies of whom I am one, I'm seventy years of age, says this text. If you have a small, little crunchy bungle and the other younger people, especially the youths, have higher repercussion impact. That's a good point. That is a good point. We'll have to look into that. Of all those incidents, yes, what were more serious than the others. That's a great question. We'll look into that. We're going to talk travel very surely. Peter Williams will be here from Phil Hoffman Travel. Just before we get to the headlines with Malaysia. Just a reminder, it's one of the great days on the five double A calendar. Back for another year. We are supporting Catherine House and the Hut Street Center with our undi Drive officially kicking off on Monday, the third of August, So next Monday, we are calling on you to support the amazing causes to help provide clean underwear for those who are in need this winter. You can donate at undidrive five double A undidrive dot com and this year there will be more ways than ever to get involved, so keep listening to five double A on more ways that you can help. It's all thanks to McGain and they are massive supporters a local for over fifty years, McGain Real Estate, McGain Commercial McGain Property Management McGain dot com dot au and we spoke to Jaylee Cooper from Catherine House just the other day, mentioned that the undie driver was coming, mentioned obviously that we had the phone alert, the ODS alert yesterday for those who got to take part in that at a half past one. I didn't get one. We were having this conversation in the office earlier. I didn't get a message. My daughter didn't get a message. Some people got two, so I'm not sure what happened there, but I think most people had that yesterday. So hopefully those who were affected by domestic violence and sadly were victims of that, were able to do something about it with the alert yesterday, the compulsory alert there at one point thirty. But it's always terrific to be able to support Catherine House. And we know the Hut Streets Cent to do so much amazing work too with those who sleep rough here in Adelaide and do it tough. So if we can help us out with our undidrive starting Monday, we would love that eight double two to three double O double O is the number. Hey, just before I get to headlines, let me do this. We're going to speak to Katie Noonan later in the show. So we'll give you the chance to go and see Katie, who's performing at the GOV on Thursday night, one of the great angelic voices that this country has. The following night on the show there at the GOV will be the Wolf Brothers, who are excellent. They're performing Friday night at the GOV Saturday the Barossa Arts Center. You can book at the Wolfbrothers dot com. That's Wolf with an E w LFE Wolfbrothers dot com. Two of Australian country music's finest and what talents these boys have.
01:02:34
Speaker 1: Five A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:02:37
Speaker 3: Thank you Mel. We'll check in with the Weather Bureau very surely. Peter Williams not too far away too to talk all things travel thanks to Phil Hopman Travel. Jeff says the OS alert was one hundred and thirty five million dollar waste of taxpayers money in a cost of living crisis. It would not have saved a life of Bondai. And you don't have to be Einstein to know when it's flood season or five last season from a useless government that self promotes itself. Thank you, Jeff. I think you do need to have it We have had incidents before where there has been incidents where people are not alarmed or aware of what's going on. So I can understand why the government would do it. I didn't realize that it would be one hundred and thirty five million dollars, but better to save lives, I guess. I know finance is a concern, but still you want people to be alert and be aware. Pack Clap is at the Bureau to give us all the details on this rather overcast Tuesday.
01:03:33
Speaker 6: Welcome Patrick, Afternoonly, how are you.
01:03:37
Speaker 3: I'm very well. What are we seeing? It's a little grade, it's a little overcast, but anything in the weather for us today.
01:03:43
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, maybe a little bit more into the gauges. We're probably seen the bulk of it so far. So it's a little over three millimeters into the West Terrace gauge there, most of that after at nine am this morning. They're sort of heavier falls. Of course, upper around the hills. We did see a few places there nudge into that sort of ten to fifteen millimeter range, but around the sort of greater metro it's generally been less than five millimeters. And like I said, maybe later on this evening we might still get another couple of little showers pushing through sort of through the evening hours, a little bit more of that overcast feeling around as well, despite their sort of breaks in the cloud and a little bit of sunshine getting through. But what we've got now leaked is southwesterly winds, so that's sort of lowing right up from the oceans to the south. So some cold air pushing in means those maximum temperatures sit pretty fresh over the next couple of days, and those minimums will drop away too as we do see a little bit of cloud clearing out, So not terrible overnight tonight down to around eight degrees is we're expecting to get overnight tonight, maybe another couple of those showers tomorrow, but as I said, sort of the bulk of it has fallen, so we're really just expecting maybe up to two millimeters into the gauges tomorrow and then a top of fourteen tomorrow, staying around that mark for the rest of the week. But like I said, those mornings getting pretty fresh for sort of Thursday, Friday and into the weekend mornings.
01:05:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, there cold morning, I know, there was cold the other night of the footy Port Adelaide giants on Saturday night. That'll be fresh Saturday night patch, I order thought, yeah.
01:05:20
Speaker 6: Look likely to be feeling pretty fresh. I was sort of looking at fifteen degree maximum is all we're getting to during the day, so not much to work with anyway, And yeah, heading for sort of a seven degree overnight temperature, so it will definitely be feeling pretty fresh. Maybe not the craziest in terms of wind, but that's probably a little bit of a watch point of this stage. We'll definitely have a look at it as we get through the weekly look at it.
01:05:45
Speaker 3: Good on your patch. Thank you for that. We'll speak to you tomorrow. Thanks patch clap from the bureau. Fourteen degrees in the city right now it feels like nine. You might want to go and see these people chase them sun.
01:05:56
Speaker 7: Five double A Travel talk Thanks to Phil Hoffman travel for over thirty years, creating moments you'll never forget.
01:06:03
Speaker 3: He's the managing director CEO, Peter Williams. Lovely are people coming in and people actually saying, hey, Pete, find us some sunshine. I don't like this weather.
01:06:10
Speaker 13: I tell you what, I need some sunshine. It was freezing just walking into the studio. It is icy cold over there at the moment. It's crazy. But yeah, no, there's people coming in and they're sick of our winter mate. They want to go anywhere and everywhere there's some sun.
01:06:23
Speaker 3: Are there People like me though that come summertime, go hey, Pete, send me somewhere cold. I want to head to Europe or I want to get to the America. Some we were at a bit Chillian snow. I know Christmas time, but probably.
01:06:34
Speaker 13: Don't get as much of that where I think.
01:06:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
01:06:36
Speaker 13: We've got a Mediterranean climate. I think we're kind of used to the warmth, but we're not so used to this freezing cold. So no, look, you know, but people love doing winter holidays. Yeah, don't get me wrong. You know the Canada and the Christmas markets in Europe and places like that. A lot of snow skiing up in Japan. So yeah, people are definitely looking for winter breaks, but it's probably not as obvious as them coming in saying get me out of the heat.
01:06:59
Speaker 3: I always find you can get warmer, but you can never get cooler. Yeah, you know, some people like it, though yourself you're probably just yeah, shirt offs and away you go I want to be like the beekeepers out Yeah.
01:07:11
Speaker 13: Look I do. Look coming from Broken Hill, you know, it's hot, hot weather nineties at the time, although it does in middle winter it's very cold.
01:07:18
Speaker 3: There had some great news again with flights here in Adelide.
01:07:21
Speaker 13: It's amazing.
01:07:22
Speaker 18: You know.
01:07:22
Speaker 13: I think every time we're on air we talk about extended flights and more frequency and is.
01:07:27
Speaker 3: That coincidence You're putting the pressure on, you're getting on air and talking about it and they're listening.
01:07:31
Speaker 13: Well, I've just come from the Aviation conference which is at the Outelaide Oval right now, and so we've got all the heads of the airlines here and you know, which is fantastic because you know we're showcasing South Australia straight away, which is which is brilliant. So I love it when we have these world class events here and we had I had a meeting with the head of Singapore Airlines yesterday and he was freaking how they're going from there. They're seven to ten to twelve services and hopefully fourteen services a week which will be double daily, which is sensee. So they've just announced the twelve a week, which is a really good stepping stone to that double Daily. That's awesome news because we love Singapore Lines. They've been in the South Autralia market for forty years. They've got brand new aircraft coming in, they've got great connection through all through Asia and also into Europe, so that's awesome. But then on the back of that, United Airlines announced couple of weeks ago that they're coming back for their seasonal service Adelaide direct to San Francisco. I think we touched on that a week or two ago, which is just brilliant for not only for those passengers who want to start at San Francisco, which is one of the great cities of the world, or head over to Napa Valley, but also for the freight and the cargo. You know, you imagine what's going the belly that the wine coming from South Australia to the Napa Valley and vice versa. So you know, that's a great story for South Astralia to have a direct flight to the US and this is the second season they'll do that, which is quite historic. And then Cathay Pacific, how trusted Hong Kong partner, they're coming back into South Australia as well, and they're really ramping up services. From four December, they'll go to three services a week. Then they're going to five services a week through to February. So you know, all great news. And what it does it just gives people more choice for direct airlines, direct connections, and generally that puts a bit of pressure on pricing as well, which is downward pressure.
01:09:15
Speaker 3: You've been in the industry a long time. Because I'm in the West, I get to see the planes all the time.
01:09:19
Speaker 2: I love it.
01:09:20
Speaker 3: I always think of a plane spot. Yeah, I'm like, here's a family or someone going off more often than not on a dream holiday. Yeah, or they're coming home to see loved ones either.
01:09:31
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's a bit of romance about it. And we're very lucky our head officers down at Glenelg and we've got like a rooftop car park. You've been there and it was funny. The Singapore Airlines head was down there and I was just showing him through the place and we just happened to be out the car park for a particular reason and Singapore Airlines was coming in at four o'clock in the afternoon. Did you organize it or did I organize that?
01:09:53
Speaker 2: Yeah?
01:09:53
Speaker 13: It was great, but Yeah. I always think that because in the morning, when I'm walking the dog and you're seeing these planes take off, you go, you know, there's there's some real happiness in flying somewhere for flying.
01:10:03
Speaker 3: Home, memories are about to be made.
01:10:05
Speaker 13: Yeah.
01:10:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. And those plain nerds, they were always out there on Tapley's Road. They never miss they are they are always out there.
01:10:11
Speaker 12: Yeah.
01:10:11
Speaker 13: Well, the other day we had some fog in Melbourne and the big Singapore Airlines A three eighty, the big super jumbo double decker came in and boy does that bring a crowd. So there was people coming in for every because everyone can track them now, you know, through live tracking, and it's fantastic.
01:10:26
Speaker 3: Well, I was watching that the first test flight between Europe and Australia for the contest three fifty. Everyone was on there. There was more people on that than like ticket tech trying to get tickets.
01:10:34
Speaker 13: But they were saying it's some kind of record viewing of that on on the flight radar app which was one stage. I think they had I don't know, thirty thousand people track it some nice track flight. Ever, Yeah, how's that say? So that flew from Toulouse to Melbourne. I think it came into and you know that was a test flight for what is eventually going to be Connis's Project Sunrise, which will be Sydney to London non stop and then soon to follow will be New York. So how exciting would that be just to get on a plane and end up in London.
01:11:09
Speaker 3: Or New York lead one of the little connectors that there is the worst. I find that little one hour from here to Melbourn's.
01:11:16
Speaker 13: Wasted wasted time. Wasted time.
01:11:18
Speaker 3: Take me there. Grand Princess are returning to Australia, which really excite many.
01:11:23
Speaker 13: Yeah, look at will cruising as you know, it's synonymous at fiel Hoth and Travel. We love our cruising and we know Souths love it as well. So nothing better when you've got cruise ships coming into Outer Harbor, which is which is great. So you know we're going to have this beautiful ship, the Princess, Grand Princess and it's it's going to come down. It's a really nice midship option. Pricing is phenomenal. You know, it starts at around about two hundred dollars a day and if and say you can't stay home for two hundred dollars a day when you include all your food, you drinks, entertainment, transportation and that type of thing. So we've got itineries right around Australia and New Zealand South specific and some longer voyages where it's coming down from Asia and going back via Asia. So yeah, very exciting to have, you know, the cruises coming back into our to harbor.
01:12:08
Speaker 3: Fifty years down under the nice milestone. When you started, there wouldn't have been many cruise lines I imagine in Australia. Oh I know.
01:12:15
Speaker 13: So when so Phil Hoffan himself he started up the first cruise center in the whole of Australia. I remember him coming to me and he said, Peter, we're going to set up a cruise office. I said why and he said, I know. It's a thing.
01:12:29
Speaker 1: It's going to happen.
01:12:30
Speaker 13: And I went, oh, I'm not really sure about that because at the time, I think we just had the Trusty fair Star out of Sydney which was gone for yeah at the party boat, and that was about it. That's all I knew about cruising. And then here we are, you know, thirty years later, where every second person that walks into filth and trouble actually ends up booking a cruise, and it's not always they're just their complete holiday. It's part of their holiday, right, you know, so if you go to Europe, you know, add on seven nights to do a Mediterranean cruise. You can't get better unpacked once.
01:12:57
Speaker 3: It's funny with I wonder if the love Boat actually or hurt the cause because people thought every cruise ship was like the love Boat was, yeah, or it was Cooter on the water, you know, like it was just party central.
01:13:08
Speaker 13: Yeah, if you go back and look at you know, the Love Boat show that the ship was pretty pretty standard for today's Yeah, correct, you know, but back then that was considered like surious. You know, it was great. And I've just come back from Europe and I was on the biggest ship in the world, Legend of the Sea's Royal Caribbean Ship. And this ship is amazing and it takes thousands of people and some people go to me, you know, Pete, that's too big, or you know, you get lost in it. Whatever, you do, get a little bit lost. It tactually a day or so to get accustomed to it. But you know, we were in venues where you know, there's only thirty or forty people in it, and it's like going to your favorite city or your favorite village in Europe. You know, lots of choice for bars, lots of choice for restaurants and world class entertainment. So yeah, cruising is here to stay and it's really popular, and it's even better when it's now I'm backyard.
01:13:55
Speaker 3: It's funny when they put the photo of the Titanic against the ships of today, tug by the Monsters looks like a tugged by Titanic. Crazy.
01:14:04
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that was twenty six thousand ton. I think the Titanic, and someone out there will know better than me, but I think it was around that and that would be considered an ultra small vessel these days. And just to put it in perspective, the legend of seas I think is pushing three hundred thousand ton. It's grast ten times bigger.
01:14:24
Speaker 3: That's amazing what they can do with the technology. And before we speak to our special guest, New Zealand, Hey, so that's just on our door stet. That's good for people. Nice little squirt across the ditch.
01:14:34
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a good segue to who we're about to have a chat to next Antheic gram Pacific Tours. But yeah, look, New Zealand is one of our number one destinations for Australian travelers, and yeah, look it's the beauty is for Adelaide. We've got direct flights now previously yet to go by Melbourne City. We've just talked about the virtues of that, so direct flights into Auckland. Hopefully again we'll get some seasonal flights down to christ Church as well for the summer, which will be absolutely terrific. It is one of the most spectacular countries anywhere that I've been in the world, and I think there's nearly every piece of every country I've been to that they've popped it into into New Zealand, and I love it. You go to South Island, you've got the mountains and places like Queens Sound, which feel like a little European village. Then you go to North If you've got the Bay of Islands, which is a bit like our Witch Sundays, and you've got rainforests, and then you've got these amazing lodges you can stay and so you know, it's an incredible place. And some people don't think about New Zealand until maybe they're quite elderly, but I say no, go and do it now because it can be really active as well, Like there's so many things that you can do. And I just personally every time I go to New Zealand, I love it. I really enjoy it.
01:15:42
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. The marry culture, you close, great culture, to the money, the people. Yeah, world, we're checking out a Coola. You've been there.
01:15:50
Speaker 13: I have been to Acroa.
01:15:50
Speaker 18: Yeah.
01:15:51
Speaker 3: Man, it's a great tie there. That's awesome, you mean trum. We're going to speak to Anthony Flores. He is the executive business development manager of Grand Pacific Tours. Joins us afternoon, Anthony. Lovely to have you on.
01:16:02
Speaker 15: Thanks Da Peter. I appreciate always good coming on and having a chat about Grand Pacific Tours in New Zealand.
01:16:08
Speaker 13: It is fantastic and nice to hear from you. Anthony. And you probably heard that little bit of a segue with New Zealand's That's your Home. Tell us a little bit about graand Pacific toos, because maybe there's some listeners out there that don't know much about your brand. We certainly know a lot about it and we love it. But tell us a little bit about it.
01:16:25
Speaker 15: Yeah, Peter, we've been around for We actually celebrated our thirty year anniversary earlier than we done, so we've been doing it for a long time. We specialize in New Zealand. It's all we do as we're a little touring company. We specialize in small and medium sized groups. We've got beautiful coaches, great accommodation, and we really try and make it as easy as possible for all of our guests traveling with us.
01:16:50
Speaker 13: Yeah, and I I like that that's small to medium size rather than you know, fifty two people on a coach and being led around, you're more far more immersive. Your groups is much smaller than that. And I love some of those luxury coaches.
01:17:04
Speaker 3: That you have.
01:17:06
Speaker 15: Yeah, they're beautiful coaches and they're exclusive to Grand Pacific tours. It just gives our guests the ability to sit back and relax. And as you mentioned earlier, there's so much the sea New Zealand and it really is a scenic overload, so having someone to do the work for you so you can sit back and relax, and the benefit of having those smaller coaches, it's not just the comfort on board, it's the time it takes to get on and off the coach. It's the extra attention you get from your tool leaders, in your coach captain, and we're really proud of our crew and it just really enhances that experience for our guests.
01:17:41
Speaker 3: Do you find the coach travel is better than independent travel for this, Anthony, because I think when I independent travel, you're looking where you're going, you're paying attention to the GPS, you're not really looking out the window.
01:17:51
Speaker 2: Look.
01:17:52
Speaker 15: Definitely for the driver, it certainly is. And one thing about New Zealand is, you know, we've got a beautiful country industry, but it's very vast and you can drive long, straight roads to get from A to B. In New Zealand, the roads are a lot windy, ow, there's a lot more mountains, and the scenery really is everywhere. It's a much smaller country. To the benefit of having that coach traveler, you've got someone doing the work for you and you can take in that scenery.
01:18:20
Speaker 13: Yeah, and I think that's spot on. And one of the things that I always say with touring, and especially coach touring, is that it's a very efficient way of doing things because one you've done all the hard work you've done all the research for starters, but two, if you know, I think people often say to me, how you know, what's the time that you'd spend in New Zealand, And I say, well, as long as you've got But typically if you're going to do you know, both islands, I think you need roughly that three weeks. Maybe just shy of that. You've got a beautiful nineteen day two that we'll talk about in a minute, but I think if you were to drive that and try and see the same sites and take in all the extra sites seeing that you do, you would need four weeks plus because you're just not doing it as efficiently.
01:19:00
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's correct. And our drivers and our guide to Super Experience, and we hand pick all the tours that we know that our guests are going to want to do. We give them optionals as well, so if they want to do a few extras, they can do optionals. But the tours that we do are picked, they're perfect for our market, and our guests don't have to think about it. We leave it in the hands of the tour leader and the coach captain and even things like portery. So when we pull up to a hotel we'll have someone meet us at the hotel. Your bags get taken up to the rooms for you. When you leave the hotel, you just leave your bag outside, it gets put on the coach. You go and have breakfast. You don't have to worry about carding it up and down the lifts, and even the hotels you don't check in, you get your card handed to you as soon as you get off the coach and you can go straight up to your room so.
01:19:48
Speaker 13: You don't have to check in half the time.
01:19:50
Speaker 3: No way tore around in the lobby.
01:19:53
Speaker 15: Lobby in a queue. So yeah, and these are all the little things that you would do if you get it on your own.
01:19:58
Speaker 13: I love that, and I often say to people, have the key, don't even go to your room, go straight back out to the town square, go and have a beer or a coffee or an ice cream, and just start immersing yourself in the destination that you know you're going to spend a couple of days in.
01:20:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:20:11
Speaker 15: Absolutely, Yeah, a good idea for sure.
01:20:14
Speaker 13: And you just tell us, yeah, we talked about mid sized group touring, and you know, we love your offering here with the signature service that you provide. Just maybe tell us a little bit more about that, because I know you still use like a full sized coach, but it's you really limit the amount passages on board.
01:20:30
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
01:20:31
Speaker 15: Absolutely, And a lot of people when they get to our coach, they expect it to be a smaller coach, but they're not, so they are a full sized coach. Full sized coaches typically have forty eight seats. Yep, ours have thirty two seats.
01:20:42
Speaker 13: It's not business pas really.
01:20:44
Speaker 16: Yeah, it is.
01:20:46
Speaker 15: It's you know, we like to call this economy certainly a premium economy. You've got plenty of leg room, the seats are really wide, they're very very comfortable. We've also got Wi Fi as well, so we'll give a guest a daily Wi Fi allowance they can charge their phones while they travel. So it's got all the mod columns, bathroom on board. It's very very comfortable, and when you compare it to a forty eight seat coach, you'll notice a difference straight away. It's a significant difference.
01:21:12
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that that makes a huge amount difference in just that leg room. I was on a coach the other day. There's fifty two people on it, and look, it was only a short drive for an hour or so and I reckon my knees, you know, they were just about around my head somewhere, and I got off and I was totally cramped up, you know. But you're not getting anything like that on Gram Civic tours, that's for sure.
01:21:30
Speaker 15: No, nothing like that. Very very comfortable.
01:21:33
Speaker 13: The other thing that I love about your itineries is, you know, the coach is the main component of transport, but you also mix it up with some amazing rail journeys as well, and you know, I think that kind of breaks it up a little bit as well. I love rail, and I think it's just it really compliments your premium coach touring.
01:21:53
Speaker 14: Yeah.
01:21:53
Speaker 15: Absolutely, all of their itineries that go to the South Island include the Trans Alpine, which a lot of people have heard of the most well known of the rail journeys in New Zealand, and our nine day rail cruise and coach also includes the Coastal Pacific as well as a steam railway. So rail is an important part. New Zealand really embrace their rail travel and we like to incorporate that in our itineries and their guest love it.
01:22:20
Speaker 13: So the Trans Alpine, that's that's the rail journey from christ Church to Graymouth from memories that right goes right over the.
01:22:29
Speaker 2: That's it.
01:22:29
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, we get off there and beautiful views obviously that Alpine region, and you mentioned earlier the South Island is famous for its beautiful mountains. It's striking mountain ranges, it's alpine regions, and you know, you certainly could be mistaken for being in parts of Europe when you're traveling through that.
01:22:48
Speaker 3: It's funny. The New York Times has got a great thing on their newsletter where they take a photo of somewhere and then you've got a guess around the world where it is. And quite off of New Zealand's in this group, but people think it's part of Europe, whether it's the fuel or whether it's the mountains, etc. Yeah, amazing.
01:23:03
Speaker 15: It's just hours away from us, it is, and that's why it strange. They love all of New Zealand, but the South Island in particular because it's got a lot of those things that we don't have here that we would typically fly to the Northern Hemisphere to get to. Yep, and that's the beauty of it.
01:23:19
Speaker 13: Yeah, No, I totally agree. We were just saying earlier on when you came on, you know, the optimum amount of time of traveling around to see the islands. Now we've got a fantastic nine en Dale rail cruise and coach option which I think is just about perfect to see both the North and the South and a great combination of transport. Do you want to just touch on and maybe expand a little bit on that itinery because you just go to really the absolute highlights.
01:23:43
Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, and this is our most popular itinery for those reasons. We do include those rail journeys I mentioned earlier, so the trans el Pine, the Coastal Pacific, and a short steam railway. In addition to that, this one includes an overnight on Milford Sam and typically when we go out to Milford Sad it's a day to it. So we go from now and we go up and back in the day. The beauty about this tour is we actually go to Milford Sound, we go on the field Land Mariner and we spend the night over there. We have breakfast, so you get the afternoon, you'll get during the night, and you'll get the morning, so you get a lot more time cruising around Milford Sound. So it's a real wow factor for a lot of our guests, and we also go to some of the other famous areas in New Zealand, like the Bay of Islands, we see a Hole in the Rock. We do beautiful Queenstown of course, which is one of my favorite places on Earth. It's absolutely yea, it is studying and you know, we'll do the North Island and the South Island quite extensively, and it does go for nineteen days, so you're almost right on that three week marks. It's a really great itinery.
01:24:51
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's terrific and I think you know, with that nineteen days, you do see the North, the South, all the highlights. Yeah, it's probably ticking just about all the boxes for maybe that person that's only ever going to go to New Zealand once, they'll pretty well see it all. I love the idea of going out to Milford Sound and staying overnight because you'd have to feel like you've nearly got this beautiful bay to yourself because all the daycraft would be all going back, and then probably after four o'clock it's kind of just you and the beautiful Milford Sound. The silence must be just amazing.
01:25:23
Speaker 15: Yeah, you spot on, Peter. It is the overwhelming majority of passengers who go out to Milford Sand do it as a day trip. Very few do it overnight. It's not like how Long Bay and Vietnam, where there's which is beautiful, but there's four hundred you're sharing with four hundred other boats. You don't get that in Milford Sound. It's very limited to the amount of craft that can be on there overnight.
01:25:47
Speaker 13: That's fantastic talking about Coin Sound, and really that is one of the most spectacular places I've ever been. I actually think I could live there. I'm not sure how the cold would go in the winter, but I do like snow skiing, so I could be all right. But I believe they also have one of the most celebrated burger joined t Intown. Is is it Burger?
01:26:06
Speaker 11: Yeah?
01:26:07
Speaker 15: Berg Burger. There's normally a Q halfway around the corner. I think they've got Ferg ice Cream and Ferg Bakery now, so it's an expanded business. And I can tell you they are very good.
01:26:17
Speaker 13: Yeah. I have one a few years back, and I told do not go there at lunch time, otherwise you'd be lined up around the corner. So I kind of I must have snuck there, kind of for a late breakfast burger, but I didn't have to line up. It was great and it was it was awesome. So yeah, there's things like that that you can do, which is great. And then if you maybe need a bit of a shorter time, you've got tours that just do the north and just do the South. I'm looking at this wonderful ten days South Island experience that you've got as well, so you can split it up if you wish.
01:26:46
Speaker 15: Absolutely, yeah, if you haven't got as much time and you just want to do the one island, we do have single island tours. Our ten days South Island is very very popular. It is more or less the same itinerary as the nine day rail cruise and coach, except we start in christ Shirt so we don't go across the into island and we head down, but we do the trans al Pine, we do Queenstown. It's a day trip out to Milford Salmon.
01:27:10
Speaker 6: Once.
01:27:10
Speaker 15: We spent two nights in tire now, but that gives them a bit of extra time to you know, they can go to the field Land Cinema or do the Glowworms and then you get a beautiful afternoon cruise in Milford Sound and this one also includes a visit to Mount Cook so you get to see the country's highest peak as well.
01:27:29
Speaker 13: It's fantastic. We've got some exclusive savings at the moment at phil hoff and Travel with Graham Cific Tours.
01:27:36
Speaker 15: Yeah, we do. We've got some great deals at the moment, so on limited departures, you know, particularly for people who want to travel between now and the end of the year. We do have some tours which will save up to one thousand dollars per person on these dates, so really really good savings, you know, the best mark, the best deal we have in market at the moment and pretty much the best deal we've had for a long long time. So up to one thousand dollars per couple on selected departure dates. So if you go and see your consultants at your phil Hoffman, I will be able to tell you what's available and when you can travel on those dates.
01:28:10
Speaker 3: Get across beautiful good only Anthony, thank you for.
01:28:13
Speaker 15: That, No worries, thankster and.
01:28:16
Speaker 3: Thanks Anthony Flora's executive business development manager of Grand Pacific Tours. Will we're checking out New Zealand. If you haven't done it, or if you have, go and do it again because there's heaps more to see. You're talking all the great Auckland and christ Church and Wellington. You had to road to ruer Oobton.
01:28:32
Speaker 13: Ant he sounds very much like a local, so we're really getting it from the horse's mouth there.
01:28:37
Speaker 3: I don't know if they do it. We did the chocolate tour down in the South Island. Unbelievable, fantastic. So well we're checking out. You can ask about that and more. Phil hob And Travel save up to one thousand dollars per couple on selected departure dates for that. You've got some big events coming up Viking Cruises. You can explore the world next week.
01:28:56
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is by demand.
01:28:57
Speaker 3: Really.
01:28:58
Speaker 13: We had Viking Cruise events only about four or five weeks ago and they're all sold out. They were packed, so we're getting one hundred people at these events, so we've we're holding two more now. So this is for their award winning a River, River, Ocean and expedition cruising across all seven continents. So we're heading down to down Victor Harbourway, so down to Port Elliott, the beautiful Salt at Elliott. I don't know if you've been there, leave but it's just fantastic. So it's on the main drag that in Port Elliott. Love that little place ten am Thursday, the sixth of August, so just just over a week's time. And then in the evening same day six pm, six of August will be at our head office in the Glenelg Skydeck. So yeah, exploring the world with Viking Cruises. You must register for that, guys, because they will sell out and down at Salt I think we've only got place for about forty or fifty people at Glenelg. It's around about one hundred ods, so that's going to be fantastic. The other one that's proving really popular at the moment, and I was just having a meeting with these guys talking about how popular Japan and China own and places like this will be coming down Wendy Woo. They do it just about better than anyone, guys. So we're going to discover the Wonders of Asia with Wendy wo Tours and we are traveling all around the state for that one. So twenty four August through to twenty seven August, we're in Walkerville where in the city we're out at Gauler, Glen Elk semaphore. So just jump onto PhD dot com dot you have look at our events and register. If you're interested in Japan or China or the Orange anywhere. Yes, then we're going to be covering the very best of it.
01:30:29
Speaker 3: And we should say these are free events to aren't they We just have to book so they get a spot.
01:30:33
Speaker 13: Yes, they do, and please register, and if you do register, please turn up or cancel because often we have a bit of a weight list and we don't want to we don't want to deny them coming. If it's just a bit cold or whatever. Just you know, even it's last minute, give us a ring and say hey, we're not going to make it, and then we'll ring up some people who are on the weight list.
01:30:47
Speaker 3: So lots going on. You're heading into the lounge, take some calls off.
01:30:52
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, I'm not taking They're going to take it down at the suite.
01:30:55
Speaker 15: Yes.
01:30:56
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01:31:12
Speaker 3: Yes, travel lounges on until halp us three, So you can call eight double two to three, double O, double five and talk about any issue in travel that you like. Where do you want to go, where do you want to stay? You can do all of that and more at PhD. Lovely to see you. Thank you for coming me good Peter Williams from PhD voted Australia's most Outstanding Travel agency twenty twenty five, thirteen time winner. There's over one hundred exclusive packages. Just visit PHT dot com and branches everywhere from Glenelg nor Would modburyn Hyde Park through the Semifore, Sterling Victor, the Barossa Gauler.
01:31:43
Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Leaf.
01:31:46
Speaker 3: Forest Good afternoon. It is six minutes after three on this Tuesday, the twenty eighth day of July. Thank you for tuning in. You can listen to us as well as watching us now on the live stream. You can check us out on faceboo and also YouTube. Very surely we're going to speak to Katie Noonan, one of the greatest voices this country has. Shall we hear in Adelaide on Thursday performing at the Gove, So we speak to Katie about that and her new album which has been released. Later this hour, we'll also give you a chance to go and see Katie. By the way, we've got doubles to give away. Later in the hour, we'll give you the chance to go to the Wolf Brothers. They will be performing at the Gove. If you love your country music, that's on the Friday night, so the next night, and also this being a Tuesday, we have of course Turkey Tuesday, and this is your chance to win a mixed twenty four pack of the two hundred and fifty mil Turkey flat wine cans. It's the rose, the pino gree, the chiraz Grenash, It's all the vibrant and refreshing notes that you love that have made Turkey flats Rose an absolute favorite of many. It's everything you want in a good wine, strawberries and floral undertones and a crisp finish. All of that plus the cant environmentally friendly. So that's coming up later in the show. So if you yourself has been a Turkey, if you know someone that has been a Turkey, and we might just sort of steer it in one direction, because I'll play you some audio of a very well known politician who thought he could turn comedian over the weekend, cracked a gag bombed badly, and so on the back of that we might ask you people who are genuinely unfunny. There might be well known comedians or TV stars that are in the world of comedy that you just don't find very funny. So we might do that as part of Turkey Tuesday later in the show. So if you wish to join us eight double two three double O double oh, you can take zero double four eight zero thirteen ninety five or get to us on air at five double A dot com dot au. We've got a bit to get through this hour too. We can bring you up to date with the latest on the missing child there in Port Lincoln. We've got the issue of the twenty seven cases of bird flu the age five year in South Australia, and so much more. So all of that and more before four o'clock before we hand over to Tim and Row So big ou I hope you'll be part of it. We'll take a short break and on the other side we will speak to the voice of an Angel Katie Noonan is going to join me next five.
01:34:08
Speaker 1: Double a Afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:34:16
Speaker 3: So five time ARIA Award winning artist. She is the literal voice of an angel. Katie Noonan has released her thirtieth studio album called Alone but All One, and she is coming to the gov this Thursday. She joins me, Katie, welcome, lovely to have you back on.
01:34:33
Speaker 19: Thank you so much for having me lef.
01:34:35
Speaker 3: You know you're my age, Katie. I look this up. Thirty albums is prolific.
01:34:42
Speaker 19: Yes, I have been a busy bee.
01:34:45
Speaker 20: I mean I love being challenged by different vernacular within the enormously limitless language of music. Really so not all of those are obviously on my own. There's ones with the Bronski String Quartet, the s Stralian String Quartet, were based in Adelaide, orchestral stuff, all sorts of things, but yeah, the predominant predominantly it's my own work, whether it be with George or Elixa or my solo stuff. And yeah, so pretty weird. And it's been thirty years since my first every gig with George in June nineteen ninety well since we formed in June nineteen ninety six.
01:35:24
Speaker 19: So yeah, busy times.
01:35:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking that's a lot of art, and I was reading about your current album and what people are talking about all the words you want to hear, Katie, intimate yet poignant, powerful yet delicate.
01:35:39
Speaker 20: Well, it wasn't an album I intended to make leads. To be honest, It's been a pretty rough twenty months, but I'm just one of half of the country.
01:35:48
Speaker 12: You know.
01:35:49
Speaker 20: Marriage is a beautiful thing and no one goes into it thinking it's not gonna last. But this particular one didn't. But you know, we had twenty really good years. I think it was COVID that really, like many relationships, not just marriages, but friendships, we found very challenging and obviously as an artist, there were no safety nets for artists, so it was a pretty scary time. But as always, music is my best mate, and so since I was since I was three when I started playing piano, but particularly since I was a teenager when I needed an outlet for all of those big feels that teenagers have, that's when I started writing my songs and luckily formed a band. Well, I saw Jeff Buckley when I was eighteen, and that was the turning point of my trajectory as a musician.
01:36:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what the music gods are like. If you're in love, here's some content. If your heartbroken, yes, here's some content. So you know, the circle will turn, the will will turn, Katie, and the love will return, and then there's war.
01:36:53
Speaker 20: Right Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I mean all music or art is a response to life, and therefore it is all sort of innately in a way political, because we're responding to the world that we live in. But also it's just a response to what our heart is going through. And so yeah, I was suddenly, you know, a single woman in an empty house. You know, left the matrimonial home in January twenty what is it five, and so the house was empty for a long time. And then I decided to make the record in my laund room, which was beautiful, to fill it with friends. And it's a gorgeous little sixty two classic post war bungalow house, but good acoustics, beautiful hardwood floors, not super high ceilings, but you know, higher ceilings than modern places. And for it to be filled with four wooden string instruments and then a wooden grand piano and my voice was it suited the acoustic perfectly.
01:37:56
Speaker 19: We just had to mitigate my dog's snoring.
01:38:00
Speaker 20: And the chickens and the ducks and the four children next door. But so we tended to record at night once the chicks were asleep.
01:38:08
Speaker 2: Yep.
01:38:08
Speaker 3: Well, there's a little easter egg for a couple of fans. But how good is that in terms of the intimacy of the album? I see that, Katie sometimes on those shows like Classic Albums, where for every great album that's done in a studio, there's many that are done in homes, and it's the carpets and the drapes and everything else that to the ambience. But you would have a relaxation, I guess, or a different kind of way of feeling your house versus a studio.
01:38:32
Speaker 19: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
01:38:34
Speaker 20: It was beautiful to fill my new home, which has been, as I said, a pretty lonely home for a long time, to fill it with people and to fill it with music, and to fill it with notes and love and people I love.
01:38:48
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the album's out and then you're touring that we get to see you this coming Thursday. With that, I love the idea, Katy, of people watching you perform to hear your angelic voice and enjoyed that experience. Maybe some people, when you can see them in the audience, some are watching you, some are closing their eyes, picking up on words and phrases and sentences. You know the reason I ate with them so I can be very personal to an audience member. But also as a collective.
01:39:11
Speaker 20: Well, I think every set of it is here's music differently. That's the magic thing. And in fact I learned that lesson early on leth when I wrote the song special Ones, which I will say was premiered at the Adelaide Fringe at the East End Exchange Hotel in February nineteen ninety nine. I remember because actually Richard Kingsman was there and that led sort of onto our relationship with Triple J and ABC Radio, but I didn't have a name for it. And my girlfriend, who was there doing some you know, fabulous Carnie Circus spectacular show with barely any clothing in the Garden of Unearthly Delights, was we're literally there are about thirty of us sleeping on the floor in a house. I wrote that song about the end of a relationship with someone who was a dry addict, but for other women at the time, who were much older than me. You know, I was a baby. I was twenty two. They were my age now or older, saying this song gave me the agency to leave an abusive marriage and that was a lot for a young woman to comprehend. But also taught me the responsibility of music making and that you even no matter how sad you do, get that you need to offer hope and sort of empowerment through your music. So that was an incredible lesson for me, which I've tried to carry through all my work. So even in these really sad songs, there is a sense of hope, like I am alone but all one, meaning I'm at peace with that and etc.
01:40:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, private journals are private traditionally, Katie. Yes, what a gift, What a gift for Trent Dalton, your close friend and the author, to give you his journals and say right, do with this as you will.
01:41:00
Speaker 19: As you will.
01:41:00
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:41:00
Speaker 20: So I reached out for him to be our fourth news for Australian vocal on some of my a cappella quartet and Classical vocal quartet and he said, actually, I've got this thing that I wrote between two thousand and two thousand and six. He's an analog guy like me, pen to paper or pencil to paper, and he had all these journals and old diaries that he just filled with stories of you know, emerging from his traumatic childhood, which we all know now through reading Boy Smaller's universe, but falling in love with Fiona, his wife and future mother of his children, and just general people watching. And you know, this is sort of pre smartphones and all that stuff, where people did spend more time I think writing pen to paper and writing letters. And he's still got all the books and then he typed it up into a document for me, and that was incredibly special and for me reminded me of the wonderment of falling in love. So the album's quite a dico of miss Journey, and that half of it is about that extraordinary sadness of your whole life, you know, blown apart, and the loneliness of being alone but all one.
01:42:11
Speaker 19: But then the other half is very much about.
01:42:15
Speaker 20: The remembering the joy and honoring the love and remembering that I loved Isaac so much that I wanted to know absolutely everything about what he thought about everything, And you know, you counted down the minutes till you saw them again and all the butterflies and you know that beautiful new love thing which is very very special. So yeah, but it's not just for people who've gone through, you know, a breakup.
01:42:40
Speaker 19: It's for people.
01:42:40
Speaker 20: Who've gone through a change of any sort, whether it be grief for a change of path of life, or just sort of sitting with stillness. Basically, yeah, we.
01:42:51
Speaker 3: Get to hear you. The album is called Alone but All One. The tour is with the River Sweet String Quartet. You hear this Thursday. We love that. There's summuch a connection with you and Adelaide, Katie, So we hope you enjoy you stay here. We can go to the gov website or you can go to Osticks if you'd like to see Katie Noonan live this Thursday night at the GOV. Folks, welcome back to our city, Katie.
01:43:13
Speaker 20: We'll see you so, thank you so much, can't wait. Thanks for Adelaide.
01:43:18
Speaker 10: Morning.
01:43:19
Speaker 21: This broke your heart, This brocons broken stars for it.
01:43:33
Speaker 4: Never to.
01:43:38
Speaker 10: Say let's see servant chicken stock.
01:44:00
Speaker 3: So that is the beautiful voice of Katie Noonan, who is performing on Thursday at the Governor Home Marsh. They're on Port Roads, one of our text message that Katie needs to be inducted into the Australian Music Hall of Fame. She's so brilliant, her voice is so unique, and imagine the acoustics with the hardwood flaws. It'd be brilliant. And this is what we try to do on five Double A afternoons. We try to give all of you a chance to go along to a show that you may enjoy. Not everyone has the same musical tastes. So if you're a fan of Katie Noonan and you would like to go and see her in concert, hear this angelic voice for yourself in the flesh. First two callers through eight double two to three double low, double low. Because our travel lounges busy with their callers on double O double five, so call the talk back line eight double two to three double o double oh. First two callers through, we'll send you to Katie Noonan Thursday at the.
01:45:02
Speaker 1: Gulf five Double A Afternoons with Leith Forest.
01:45:08
Speaker 3: Hey, this is an interesting text from our boss, Sarah Rehen, who said I have a memory of when Katie Noonan sang in our boardroom Level five. She is amazing. Thank you, sir. I never got invited to that meeting. Must have just been the heavies. But there you go. Oh no, she's amazing Katie. So congratulations to Helen who's going, and Jeff is our other winner. Congratulations to you both, Helen and Jeff. You will enjoy Katie Thursday at the gov. This is interesting from Sue on the text, who says, hey, Leath, anyone who calls us Radelaide can get stuffed. Sue, I think Katie minted as a term of endearment. I like it when people know Radelaide. I think if you call it Radelaide, this is just my opinion that you've kind of got a soft spot for us. As you heard in the chat, Katie's got a lot of can actions to the city. Do you really not like it, Sue? I think of it as a badge of honor. Radelaid. Let's take calls on that eight double two to three double a double A. Put it as part of Turkey Tuesday if you like. Do you like it when people call our city Radelaide or not? Again? I think it's a nice term of endearment. But thank you, sir. I'm not going to tell Katie Noonon to get stuff. By the way, she's a classier dame than that. Now, speaking of music, I mentioned that we try to cover all bases and it was great. The board was full of people who want to go and see Katie, which is excellent because there are some people who like the music of Katie Noonan and we'll close their eyes and we'll enjoy that. There's also people in the audience, myself included, who love our country music. And there are two brothers who are doing such great work in the Australian music scene. Their name is the Wolf Brothers. So they are performing as well this week at the GOV on Friday night and then they're doing a show Saturday at the Barossa Arts Center. If you want to buy tickets you love your country music, you can go to Wolfbrothers dot com. That's Wolf with a Knee. But we also have another double to give away and you can choose. If you would like to go and see him Friday at the GOV, you can do that. If you want to head up to the Barossa Arts Center and make a day of it, you can do that. All you got to do is be the first caller through eight double two three, double O, double five. We're rewarding those of you who love angelic voices and excellent country music. That's what the Afternoon Show is all about.
01:47:35
Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:47:39
Speaker 3: But this is what Turkey Tuesday is all about. Eight double two three double o double Oh. Maybe you yourself has been a turkey, like myself not being able to control this panel. Maybe someone else you know has been a turkey. Maybe you two want to pile on Tom Gleeson.
01:47:54
Speaker 22: My favorite contestant of all time is Karl Stefanovic, who is on the Battle of the Network's End of Your Special him because he's so unpredictable.
01:48:01
Speaker 13: The problem with being called runt, which is what you are being right now.
01:48:05
Speaker 2: He's done too much live TV and he just could do anything at any time.
01:48:09
Speaker 22: Also, because he's probably off his head, probably cannot confirm.
01:48:13
Speaker 3: Anything all right. So the reason we thought we might now again we love your turkeys in any way, shape or form. People always have great stories to tell a double two to three double O double Ow. We've got twenty four two hundred and fifty mil turkey flat wine cans to give away. This is the mixed pack, the Rose, the Pinot Gree and the Chiraz grenash I thought we could sort of in amongst all the regular turkeys, we could sort of lean it down a path of who do you not find funny? The reason being you may have already heard this, but it was so great over the weekend. So they had the White House Correspondence Dinner. It's where the traditionally the White House in America will invite all of the journalists in the political realm. They'll have a big night, they'll have a nice, fancy spread, and they'll have a comedian who basically roasts everyone, and they give out some awards and everyone goes home and has a good night. You would remember that earlier. This year, it didn't happen because there was an assassination attempt against Donald Trump at that very venue. By the way, have we heard anything about the assassination attempt person since or has that just gone quite anyway? That's beside the point. So no comedian this year because Donald doesn't like comedians making fun of him. It's got a bit of a thin skin when it comes to that. But he thought he'd give the joke a crack himself.
01:49:30
Speaker 9: The other day, a senator I knew got a tax a great guy from his wife and she said, when you get home, I want to have you immediately come up the stairs and make love to me. And he said, I can't do both.
01:49:44
Speaker 2: You know what you know?
01:49:45
Speaker 9: In other words, AH can't go up the stairs and make love. Does anybody get that way? I thought that was exactly yes.
01:49:53
Speaker 3: So they you know, when you have to explain the joke, it hasn't hit. But that was his attempt. In the end, you didn't have the energy to walk up the stairs nor make love to his wife. So it killed, as you can imagine, not the only bombing Donald Trump did on the weekend. So what we're after is, maybe there's someone who is funny that everyone thinks it's funny. Maybe their career is being funny, and yet for whatever reason, you don't find them funny. You think that they're a little bit of a turkey. When it comes to that eight double two to three double O double A. You don't have to get too personal, you don't have to get sort of two up and about. You know, we still want to endorse these people and get them on the show. If they're in Adelaide, come and say hello. But who is it eight double two to three double O double A or you can text poor Tom Gleeson. On the back of Mel's chat, Laura says, I agree with you, Mel will never go again. Laura from glen Elg north Ella says Mel, I agree with you. I don't watch his shows. Cianne doesn't like Ed Cavilli doesn't find him funny, and we mute the Yuiyads every time they come on. Love your show, though, thank you, sir. Again. I'm not endorsing any of these. I want to play the peacemaker in all of this. Somebody said they think that Donald Trump's assassination attempt was staged. Oh hang on, somebody said Adam Hills. Adam was on the show before stop It. Adam is excellent. I'm not accepting that. Craig doesn't think Jerry Seinfeld is very funny. Karen's not a fan of Dave Hughes, but does think that Carl barn is hilarious. We might do that another day. A double two to three double O double A your chance to win a twenty four pack of two hundred and fifty mil turkey, flat wine, cans, the rose, the Pinot, gree, the Schirasgrenash just enjoy it responsibly but easy to transport these cans. You'll love them. Environmentally friendly in all the flavors that you want, strawberries, floral and tones, and a crisp finish. Got a turkey for us or someone that's not funny, let's hear it. Chris in Salisbury, Hello, Chris, Hey, gon Lee, good thank you.
01:52:11
Speaker 23: Yeah, I agree with Mel as well as the other texts on the line as well. Yeah, I don't really think he's that funny, but I'm not going to hate on to me that. I just I can kind of see that he took himself a bit too serious getting back at Mel, But you know, it is what it is, I guess.
01:52:25
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, I want to get them together. I think that'd like Mel's lovely. I don't know Tom, but I'm sure he's a good guy. We'll have to I want to patch that little stous Chris.
01:52:37
Speaker 23: Yeah, I reckon he might be a bit more difficult to deal with in that, but I could be wrong, just because I've watched him on TV for while. He comes across that way. But having said that, I don't know for sure. That's just the way I think it might be.
01:52:49
Speaker 3: So no, I like it. Well, thank you for the nomination. Thank you for the suggestion. I want to find out if we can get these two together. Joshuam Lobethal agrees with mel Lyles. I'm a fan of Dave Hughes or Akma. Can we not just do Australian comedians too? Some of these people I like Husy others may not. Thank you, though, Lyle, I appreciate your suggestion. Ellie's not a fan. Now, I'm with you on this, Allie. I don't quite get the fascination with Melissa McCarthy. I'm not sure Melissa's hilarious either. I'm with you on that. She says, I may be the only person that doesn't find her funny. No, Alie, I'm with you. I don't get that either. A double two three, double O double ow doesn't have to be about comedy, can be anything you like. If you've got a turkey behavior for us. Brian is in old Roanella no longer did a Brian? Oh you been a turkey? Or you know someone? No me, what happened? What did you do last sight?
01:53:46
Speaker 16: Actually I'm actually a few weeks ago. I've got some extra keys cup for my house. I was going to hide him outside and I haven't done that yet. Yes, but I lock myself out.
01:54:01
Speaker 3: How did you get out of it.
01:54:03
Speaker 16: Kitchen window?
01:54:05
Speaker 3: Oh you broke into your own house? Did you have to break the window or was luckily.
01:54:09
Speaker 16: Pushed that one?
01:54:10
Speaker 21: Love?
01:54:12
Speaker 16: But then all my ornaments are on the ledge in the kitchen, over the thing to crawl over the dishes and.
01:54:18
Speaker 3: Everything, break anything on the way through. It just a bit uncomfortable for you.
01:54:23
Speaker 16: I think I tried to move either, roll up about one half made its getting the kitchen. Those kitchen windows are higher because of the sink.
01:54:32
Speaker 3: But yeah, but aren't just semi proud of yourself though, too, Brian. I've had to break in a couple of times at home when I forgot my keys, and part of me is like a little proud that I can still fit through a window.
01:54:43
Speaker 16: Yeah I know that. Yeah, I'm getting older as well.
01:54:46
Speaker 3: You become flexible. You can kind of bend around corners, and that's never good when you've got a tap and a span cold.
01:54:52
Speaker 16: Last night too, I just fanned to get back in the house.
01:54:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not ideal. Well, you've self nominated, Brian, and well done. You are in the running for that. Tony from Seton who's a turkey or not funny Tony.
01:55:05
Speaker 24: Jimmy Kimmel.
01:55:09
Speaker 25: Yeah, he laughs and he tried to laugh and makes it so funny. But he's quite like a baby with election.
01:55:16
Speaker 3: Yes, you're going to move on.
01:55:23
Speaker 25: So good. I'm never going to.
01:55:27
Speaker 3: Tony. You would think when you've got a group of writers, I will agree with you. Often those montages on those shows fallon Kimmel and Colbert. You know, at least David let him knew that his gags sometimes are really bad, and he would make fun of them too, whereas, yeah, sometimes you think, is that the best even the SNL writing? At times you think is that the funniest that they have in the US?
01:55:48
Speaker 25: And the other the other one of the new comedian, which I don't mind, and.
01:55:53
Speaker 3: That's I don't I think I know of Greg Yeah, yeah, he's pretty good. Is he funny?
01:56:01
Speaker 25: Yeah, he's funny. Could have gone to Joson. Doesn't make it personal and he just laughs at everything.
01:56:08
Speaker 3: The mother Well we'll check it out, Tony, thank you for that nice turkey nomination. Darren is not a fan of Dave Hughes. He said he should give up from the Bay. Lorraine also not a fan of Dave Hughes Barry is though. Barry said, like Dave Hughes is funny. I've seen him a couple of times at the fringe. Yeah, I like him too, Barry. I think Hughes is funny. I think Dave Thornton's impression of Dave Hughes is funny if you've seen that online. Graham's not a fan of Mick molloy. Terry's not a fan of Akmar. Much as I wanted to like the show, it just disappointingly didn't hit the mark. Thank you, Terry. I'm sure all of these people will join us Madeline next year when it comes to fringe time, Ken from Woodcraft, who's been to Turkey? Ken?
01:57:03
Speaker 24: None of them? You've got to go positive, mate. The only comedian in this country is stand up comedian and he gets rave reports. He's been all over the world.
01:57:14
Speaker 3: What's his name?
01:57:15
Speaker 24: When you go to one of his shows, you must accept the F word and sometimes the sea word, which is family not acceptable to some people. But when you go to his show, his stand up comedy is, without doubt the best this country has ever produced. He is the greatest comedian.
01:57:39
Speaker 3: What's his name? Jeffries Jim Jeffries. I've heard Jim Jeffries works Blue Well.
01:57:45
Speaker 24: You look at YouTube, you look at Facebook, utv is. He's got stand up shows all around the world. He is, without doubt, the best comedian this country has ever had.
01:58:01
Speaker 3: Can He was at the THEBBI Theater just recently. I think in the last couple of weeks or a month, he might have done a couple of shows that I have had.
01:58:09
Speaker 24: Last week Yeah, last weekend. It was a bit of an insult because he can command more than two thousand people. He could have got the entertainment center pretty well rocking as previous years. Yes, to put him at the theater was a bit of a close to an insult because he demands more people. You watch him on YouTube. He is so funny.
01:58:41
Speaker 3: I'll have to check him out.
01:58:42
Speaker 9: You know.
01:58:43
Speaker 3: We've talked about him on the show before Ken, where he hosts one of the game shows, and I've had people suggest that they don't like him as a game show host.
01:58:50
Speaker 24: He's a much better comedian, but no, that's not his he's not that's not his number one spot. But as a stand up comedian, there's no other better. And I'd like feedback about people that went last weekend to give feedback about his show and was it good? Was it average? Was it very good? I would like feedback, all.
01:59:17
Speaker 3: Right, we'll find out Ken, thank you for that. Madeline tells me that at an estimated four thousand people attended his shows, two sold out shows at the thebe Yeah, so maybe the entertainment center was booked and they couldn't get him into the arena. If you can pull that kind of crowd. I must admit I've not seen his stand up. I'll have to check it out, but I know we've talked about him before in a game show since and there are some in the audience who don't. I don't watch a lot of TV, but they don't really they think he's better suited to the stage than that, which is interesting. You're getting some feedback you asked for it. Cian and Levi and Damien Damien Wow one double six not fans this a lot, right, I'm sure there's plenty out there though if he seld out thebi twice. Bradley is not a fan of Nazim Hassan. Okay, Dave Allen was hilarious, said another one saw him live at the festival theater never laughed so much. Keith loves Sam Campbell, especially on Taskmaster. I'm gonna have to google him, Keith, I don't think I know Sam Campbell. We'll check it out. More turkeys on the other side, if you want to join us eight double two three double o, double o. And why would you not, because up for grabs is a twenty four pack of the two hundred and fifty mil turkey flat wine ans. It's the Rose, the Pinot gree and the Chrenees, the Chirez green ash. It could all be yours next.
02:00:46
Speaker 1: Five double a afternoons with leaf forests.
02:00:49
Speaker 26: To have the house to yourself is relaxing. It doesn't happen very often. Happened recently at the weekend in myself it was duber Eats and Fox Sports for two days. Like it's really annoyed when I don't do some housework when there's no one around and I hadn't done a thing. She rings up to say they're on their way back and I hadn't even unpacked the dishwasher. I'm in massive trouble here.
02:01:11
Speaker 16: What am I gonna do?
02:01:12
Speaker 26: So I just put it on again.
02:01:16
Speaker 15: She got home.
02:01:18
Speaker 26: She has he ever done anything I said, I have a packed the dishwasher. When it finished open up, she said, used every plate. I said, yes, I did that, even the pepper Pig sippy cap.
02:01:29
Speaker 13: Yes I did.
02:01:30
Speaker 26: I was missing my family.
02:01:32
Speaker 3: See, I think you use his funny. He's coping a bit of grief on the text message. This is all part of Turkey Tuesday.
02:01:38
Speaker 13: Time to call in and nominate your Turkey of the week Turkey Tuesday.
02:01:44
Speaker 3: This is on the back of Donald Trump cracking some gags on the weekend. We're just asked who's not funny? Who do people think is funny? But isn't a lot of text messages not all in the affirmative for Jim Jeffries. It's got to be said. A lot of these I can't read. Thank you Darryl for your text. Thank you Ken for your double turkey on Jim Jefferies. Brett thinks Aaron Chen is the best comedian going. He is funny, Aaron Chen. I agree with you there, George Carlin getting some love. The best natural comedian without using explicit language is Carl Barron, says Greg from Munta, Thank you Greg, he is funny. Well, Pete, hell ay you coppying a bit of grief on the text message, Karen says Jim on the one percent club, definitely not his thing. There you go, thank you for those A double two three double O double O. Michelle from Morpha Vale, who's been the turkey Michelle Hi Lee.
02:02:41
Speaker 18: Yes, So there's a group of males standing scratching their heads at the moment, and so I'm nominating them for Turkey Tuesday.
02:02:53
Speaker 3: Good They.
02:02:57
Speaker 18: There's been a housing houses being built. There's six alongside each other, so close together you can't do anything. And they're all standing around out the front looking at the six rainwater tanks that now have to go in the backyard.
02:03:12
Speaker 3: Oh dear, preparation, poor performance. They haven't quite done the math. What are they going to do?
02:03:20
Speaker 13: Michelle hire a crane?
02:03:25
Speaker 3: Wow, big tanks or medium but just no room to get through.
02:03:29
Speaker 18: Oh, there's no The houses have sort of joined, but they're not joining type things. There's very little daylight between each of the houses because they're obviously trying to fit as many on the block as possible. So instead of having one house, you've got six little houses and it is quite a big block. But they haven't kind of thought about how are we going to get things in the backyard. Should have put them in there before we built the houses. So I'm nominating them for a bunch of turkey.
02:04:06
Speaker 3: Michelle, that is an excellent suggestion. You're in the running for that. Thank you. We have the Turkey Flat Vineyard to give away twenty four pack of the two fifty mil turkey flat wine cans, the rose, the Pinot gree and the shred the Schiraz Grenac. You see that a lot now. With Holmes knocking down to Building five just before Rowie, Michelle says, Jim Jeffries. No, back in the day, everyone loved John Candy and I did not didn't find John Candy funny at all. Wow, Michelle, you love John Candy.
02:04:37
Speaker 9: Nah?
02:04:37
Speaker 2: He was boring. Oh he was funny.
02:04:39
Speaker 3: Who's someone that's funny?
02:04:41
Speaker 2: That Dangerfield was mad? He he was just a.
02:04:48
Speaker 22: He was a classic. No, John Candy just thought he was fat and funny. You're not just because you're fat, You're not funny. Hey, on my nomination for Turkey of the week is anyone that has their birthday off.
02:05:00
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking. Why would you do that? That is a bit who whoo?
02:05:06
Speaker 22: Who would take a day off of work for their birthday and absolute tech.
02:05:11
Speaker 3: Well, I would think that's a good nomination. I would think anyone who didn't want to have any part of their birthday might take that. You know, just leave day.
02:05:21
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know what, what do the kids have the school off? Is your wife your day off? Does the dog have their day off? For you? Just have a day off to yourself.
02:05:30
Speaker 3: I think they know. I think there are people who genuinely don't want to celebrate birthdays, and I think we should honor that.
02:05:40
Speaker 22: I think significant ones, ones that have an O in front of it, odd numbers not worth it. Anything that's the visible by ten, yes, but everything else. My favorite birthday is when everyone forgets it.
02:05:54
Speaker 3: So if it's too big a number that people won't forget it, you've got to make sure that you're not here.
02:05:59
Speaker 22: We sell a rate sixties, fifties, forties, thirties, and twenty first.
02:06:03
Speaker 3: I'm done now I've finished birthday.
02:06:05
Speaker 2: What number was that one?
02:06:06
Speaker 3: It was? I'm forty nine.
02:06:08
Speaker 2: Oh that's just the nothing number. It's like a Tuesday and nothing day. So you took the day.
02:06:13
Speaker 3: Off for forty nine, Well, well, were.
02:06:15
Speaker 2: You left to have a week off for fifty.
02:06:17
Speaker 3: No, in my heart of hearts, I may not be forty nine. Officially I may not be forty nine.
02:06:24
Speaker 2: But okay, did you have a cake?
02:06:27
Speaker 21: And all that?
02:06:28
Speaker 3: Because I'm staying forty nine forever until I'm sixty.
02:06:32
Speaker 2: So you're going to jump from forty nine to sixty.
02:06:34
Speaker 3: But I'll be forty nine now for ten years.
02:06:36
Speaker 2: Sixty is not a good number.
02:06:38
Speaker 3: Fifty is worse.
02:06:39
Speaker 2: No, it's not fifty. Was Magniver?
02:06:41
Speaker 24: Really?
02:06:42
Speaker 21: Yeah?
02:06:42
Speaker 3: I think fifty sixty on there?
02:06:44
Speaker 2: I now feel old, I look old. I am old.
02:06:49
Speaker 3: What's the penalty in football for the worst indiscretion you can do?
02:06:54
Speaker 20: What?
02:06:54
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
02:06:54
Speaker 3: How many meters do you get? Fifty fifty? When's the first time you raise your bat in creget when it's fifty.
02:07:00
Speaker 2: Here, that's fair call. But to nothing number that's big.
02:07:04
Speaker 3: Sixty is the new fifty anyway, Let's not talk about that anyway.
02:07:07
Speaker 22: You're a Turkey's round twenty Port are playing for the Douggie Cochran camp.
02:07:11
Speaker 2: In other words, they're tanking. No one wants to say no one wants to say it.
02:07:15
Speaker 22: No one wants to say it, But I did, and I have Dean Brogan Maddy Crouch, Eddie McGuire join us.
02:07:22
Speaker 2: Four games left in the season.
02:07:25
Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it.
02:07:26
Speaker 2: Goodness me four?
02:07:29
Speaker 3: How many come out?
02:07:30
Speaker 2: Well, how's my dad?
02:07:31
Speaker 3: It's my voice?
02:07:32
Speaker 10: Four.
02:07:32
Speaker 3: I think the Crows will winning three of their last four. Couldn't care less, sneak into the top.
02:07:36
Speaker 2: Couldn't care less.
02:07:38
Speaker 22: I really care about is them in the finals? Judgments day, he's fired up. I don't know who cares. They'll beat Es than they'll beat Richmond. They'll probably get over Freemantle here. I mean, I don't know GWS last game.
02:07:51
Speaker 3: They finish fifth.
02:07:54
Speaker 22: Nothing matters other than September for them, and everything they should be doing in this month is that getting the team right, getting selection right, getting their midfield right, getting some grunt not holding up that teeth.
02:08:07
Speaker 3: Thing shot out of a tea.
02:08:09
Speaker 2: Stands for turkey.
02:08:11
Speaker 3: Stephen right, you are a turkey for celeb Brian you won the Turkey. Congratulations, Enjoy the one
