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Speaker 3: So we got to do is be a part of the show today eight double two to three double double ow joining the conversation on any of the topics that we discuss very shortly. We'll talk about the fact of language on signs. You know, we get callers who talk about having first nations names on signs along with the English name. Well, now there's a Sydney Council who are planning to put English names and make them compulsory for all shop signs. I wonder if you've ever seen a sign in Adelaide in another language and been confused by what it means? Do you think that we should follow the lead of the Sydney Council and have English on every sign. We'll discuss that shortly. I'd love to get your thoughts on that. We'll talk about violent attacks. Nobody needs to be attacked violently at all, let alone at work. But there are some new reports that suggest that one out of five nurses experience violence in the workplace. It's just horrific. We'll speak to the Essay Nursing and Midwiffery Association about that one in five. So you get up, you get ready, you go to work, and then you face some sort of violence. It's just not on, so we'll look into that. We'll also talk about the most adrenaline charged thrill seeking activity that you've ever done. I'll be interested to get your calls on this. Australians are ditching traditional wellness trends for extreme adrenaline fixes to reset them mental health, in particular skydiving. Have you got any interest whatsoever of jumping out of a plane to fix your mental health? We'll talk about that this afternoon. There's also some new research that reveals almost half of Australian's surveyed do not feel prepared to get behind the wheel of an electric vehicle. Have you driven an EV? Are you someone like I've never been behind the wheel of an EV, so I have no idea about any of the technology, the one pedal, the touchscreen. We'll speak to Trent Nikolick about this. It's interesting though, forty eight percent of people surveyed do not feel prepared. It's like learning how to drive all over again, and the number of accidents caused because of that are on the rise. We'll also talk travel with Phil Hoffman. Travel. We'll meet the artist behind an exceptional new mural here in the city. I'm not sure about you, but I do love the street art. I think it adds a lot to the streets of Adelaide. And we also have a very special musical treat for you. She was huge in the eighties and the nineties. Today on the show Kim Wild one of the great disco songs kids in America. So I will speak to Kim a little later on. She will be joining us soon here in Adelaide at the GARV. Most importantly, your calls are welcome. Eight double two to three double O double ow. You can send me a tech zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. First, so, a Sydney council has passed a motion to make English compulsory on business sign It is the Strathfield Council in New South Wales. It's actually their second attempt to regulate shop signage. The idea was raised at a council meeting eight years ago. It was met with criticism then, but however, now it has passed a motion. Before we speak to the counselor, let's have a listen to some thoughts This morning on Sunrise, the associate editor of the Australian newspaper, Jenna.
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Speaker 4: Clark, call me crazy, but I thought This probably would have already been the remit of local government. This is exactly what they should be talking about, and I'm actually shocked that this wasn't already mandated because look, I myself are not the brightest button on the Cardigan, so I would probably like our common language to be included on all shop runs and all signages around this great country.
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Speaker 3: From cheap media. Aspiring politician Hannah Ferguson, Look.
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Speaker 5: I disagree with Jenna that this is something that local councils should be discussing. I think it's amazing that we have a local area in city that is seventy three percent non English speaking. I think, as someone who only speaks one language, I'm impressed by anyone that's multi lingual society. There's me stuffing up an English word.
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Speaker 2: I think we should be.
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Speaker 5: Proud of the society we live in, and I think it should be up to store owners to choose. I think what's concerning to me about this debate started by a liberal counselor in Stratfield. There's no measurement of how many signs in the area don't have English language on their sign so I think it's kind.
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Speaker 1: Of a culture war.
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Speaker 5: That's been pushed without actual evidence to back it up.
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Speaker 3: So let's discuss with one of the counselors at Stratfield, John Paul Ballardi. John, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 3: Can you tell us about how this came about? So I mentioned that you tried years ago or the council will did at least what's been what's there investigation time? Ye?
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Speaker 6: Well yeah, look at that that first SETEMP predates my time, and there really is no connection between the two. The only connection I'd say is that Stutfield is a very busy town center. Here in Sydney. We're one of the busiest railway networks and bus interchanges where forty thousand people pass through each day. Now Here in Struttfield we have an extraordinarily multicultural community, with over seventy percent of residents speaking a language other than English at home. Right, there's some data for you on our census day. But this came about because one of our counselors, one of my colleagues on council counselor es To Kim, noticed a federal government ad for some sort of health service. I believe that was totally in Mandarin.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 6: Counselor Kim herself is a migrant from Korea, a former president of the Korean Society here in Sydney, and she took some offense to seeing a federal government at entirely Amandarin and not having access to whatever it was talking about. So she came up with this idea as a way to ensure that we always recognize, particularly in our Council communications, English as our common language to be able to always reach all residents. Now, as part of that motion, she also added that we should be encouraging and soon regulating businesses opening up. However, they put a sign up that it is in English to some degree. Now that doesn't mean that English has to be the main language, but it ought to be clear and prominent.
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Speaker 3: So you're not banning the other languages, are you. You're just adding English so that everyone can read the sign.
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Speaker 7: That's correct, Okay.
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Speaker 3: I heard one of the counselors suggests that it would boost a unity. Is that the common thought amongst your counsel Well, that's.
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Speaker 6: What Counselor Kim did suggest in her comments on this when proposing it to counsel and I would agree with that I think when you do have places that have such diversity like ours, we need to realize that unity is found when we have things that are common. You know, it's one thing to be multicultural, but to have common language, common culture, that's where we find unity and that's part of our Australian kind of story. And so, whilst there is great beauty in the diversity we do have here locally, having a common language, having a common identity is what brings us together.
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Speaker 3: Do you know if anyone other than the counselor has ever complained about it is an issue with the people within your council not being able to understand signage, jaw letters, etc.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, I've certainly had plenty of comments in the past. Absolutely, and in fact the council I told another anecdote when proposing this motion, which I thought was rather funny. She said that at her local church she had members of the congregation who weren't Korean, who came up to her and said, look, there's a Korean shop across the road selling something that's just opened up. We don't know what it's selling, and can you take us to show us and introduce us, because we'd love to it looks very exciting. There's sort of a bit of a husband buzz about this new place. We'd like to know what they're actually selling. And we all thought that was quite funny at council, because you know, here are people who know exist a few meters from each other, who, if they didn't know someone who was Korean, couldn't have had any introduction to that Korean store.
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Speaker 3: Do you think people jump on wild feel unwelcome if they were to go into a store and they didn't the language, they weren't able to understand what they were walking into and looking at people?
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Speaker 6: Might I mean, I personally don't know if unwelcome was maybe the right term, but certainly it's not an easy thing to do. If you don't know what a sign says outside of shop front, you know, there's unless it's blatantly obvious, it's not always clear what they are selling. But if I have a Chinese place that says Chinese takeaway in English, I know I can pop in and maybe get by. But if it's all written in Mandarin or Cantonese, I wouldn't know it otherwise.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. John Paul Ballati is my guest is the Strathfield counselor this is the idea of the Council passing the motion to make English compulsory on the business signs. I guess the question too would be John Paul, how do you enforce it? So do you force? Do you go around the local neighborhood, find the signs that are offending and say right, we need you to add English to this.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, the motion that has passed the Council doesn't quite go into those details. Instead, it's a little bit broader and asking for a report on current regulations. So I guess the first thing it does is recognize English as Australia's common language and then advocates for businesses operating within our lda to ensure that all shop fronts or advertising from council include language that includes languages over English, ensure that ensure that English is also displayed clearly and prominently. As I said, now, in terms of the nitted grity of regulating it, we'll wait to see what the report says, but I'm not sure. Here in New South Wales, the way that these things occur is that there is an application done through the Council to put up any new signage. So in the future, whenever someone does make an application, it would have to make sure you follow the new rules, whatever they might be. Like I said, we're still waiting for a report.
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Speaker 3: Do you think you might be a test case? Do you think that there is a chance that other councils would or should follow your lead?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely? As I said earlier, I think this is something that brings unity to our community. I think Australia is an English speaking nation. It may not be our official language, if you will, but it certainly is our common tongue and we ought to foster a sense of unity through things that are common.
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Speaker 3: And to the critics who say it's unnecessary and maybe an overreach from local government, what would your response be there?
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Speaker 6: I think this is the exact kind of thing local governments across the Australia should be doing. There should be doing things that enhance unity to deadness and a common identity. I mean, there are plenty of local councils who do things as outrageous as cancel Australia day now. I don't know how that brings unity out. That's within the remit of a local council, but this certainly.
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Speaker 3: Is sure, so the signage and I'll finish on this if can counsel us. So we're not saying so for example, there's a really popular restaurant here in Adelaide called Parwana. It's an Afghan restaurant on Henley Beach Road. You're not suggesting so the Afghan word Parwana stands for butterfly or moth. You're not suggesting that we need to have butterfly underneath. It's more the language that we can't read. If you're someone who only can read English, for example, that's what you're suggesting.
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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. So we're not saying that it has to you know, if we're using Laddin new letters, you know, then that's fine. It's it's the languages that use other scripts that ought to be you know, either translated or understandable. Now, if you have an Italian restaurant that's got an Italian name, I mean, that's something we can sort of all understand. It's when there is a clear barrier there that things should be should should be fixed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting discussion. Appreciate your time, John p All the South Fornoon, Thanks so much.
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 3: John Paul BLARTI here is a unselor for Strathfield Council in New South Wales, part of Sydney. If you'd like to have you say, what do you think eight double two three double O double OW Is that something that you would suggest happens here in Adelaide and in South Australia too? Do you think that English should be compulsory on business science? Are there businesses in Adelaide where the signage is not in English, where you don't necessarily know what the business offers, what the business name is, what their services are, and maybe you haven't gone in because of that? Or do you think, like some are suggesting, perhaps it's an overreach from local government and it's unnecessary. We've got buy find so far we don't need to change it. Eight double two to three double O double O. Be interested to get your thought? You can send a text two zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. I would encourage you to call because remember every caller today in the running for the show Family Pass eight double two three double double A.
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Speaker 3: If you'd like to join in the conversation. A double two to three double O double oh, let's head to the Lower Mid North.
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Speaker 8: Hello Jackie, good afternoon, Hello, good Afternoonly. I just want to make a comment in regard to different languages around Australia. I think it's great that people use different languages, but I think they also need to be inclusive of Australians and have the English there.
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Speaker 2: So you're for it.
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Speaker 3: You like the idea of the sign that explains both in native tongue and in English what it is.
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Speaker 8: They can have their native tongue, but the Australian native tongue is English, so I think we should we should be using what's Australian.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, I can understand that argument. I guess we've got through so far. Is the argument from others saying does it matter? Do you think it's an overreach from council or that is the kind of thing that council should be doing so that people know what the shops are.
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Speaker 8: Exactly they should. I don't think it's an overreach of the council. I think it's their job to make sure that their constituent know what's happening in the in their council, and signage is a part of that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. I've never really thought of it, Jackie, to be honest, but I'll have a look next time. You know, I'm in Chinatown through Guja and Groat Street and have a look. But I don't think from memory that there's English translation there, but maybe there is. I left to have a lot well.
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Speaker 8: As I said, I'm from the lower Mid North, so if I visit Adelaide and I don't go into those areas very often. But I have no idea what's I go into a place that doesn't have English. I have no idea what's there and what's not. Yes, I don't speak the other languages, so I think I think English should be included.
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Speaker 3: So you not feel welcoming in those places. I guess if you don't know what.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you don't feel welcome here.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jackie, I appreciate the call. Thank you for that. This one said Leath. I don't think it matters too much, might cause more division, but realistically it should be in Australian. Another said there are plenty of overseas branded business down the northern end of Prospect wrote I'm sure with multiculturalism most suburbs would have areas like that Brian would like to see go further mandate that English has to be spoken in all public places. I think this would help integrate multicultural groups. Okay, thank you, Brian. I'm not sure is that going to be possible though pretty hard to teach people English if it's not there their first language. I mean, people try, but even not just new arrivals. I think some of the old Greeks and Italians and the Europeans who came out in the sixties, I know a lot of those still speak in their native tongue. So thank you. Brian. Whendy agrees with the counselor. It would always be good to know in English what the signage is saying, whether it is food or whether it is general merchandise. Lou says, isn't the whole point of coming to a country like Australia to integrate into our society, like it or not. English is the common thread. Migrants leave their countries for a better life, not to create segregated on slaves of what they leave behind, says Lou. And Adam says, our primary language in Australia is English, and this is why I'm against renaming place names. It's only a fraction of the population who understand its okay, So an overwhelming majority of people saying that the English should be on business signs. Maybe other councils here in Adelaide and South Australia will follow suit, like the Strathfield Council there in Sydney. You can have your say on that if you wish eight double two to three double OW will take more of a calls and emails and sms. As the show goes on, we'll get to the headlines with mel get the latest on that power outage in the CBD and through Rundell Moore. I do know that Rundell Place was completely out of power. A lot of people heading to wol Worst because Cole's had no power at that stage. On the other side, we're going to talk about some of the issues facing our nurses, including the surge in assaults across the country amid a cost of living pressure. So that's next.
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Speaker 1: Five Double A afternoons with Leak Forest.
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Speaker 3: Thanks you were twenty eight minutes to two. Graham on the text said someone mentioned multicultural groups. What are multicultural groups? Are there non multicultural groups? Robert says, surely from a purely business perspective, you would want to attract as many customers as possible. Signs in multiple languages can only be your benefit for sales and profit in harder times, And Carol says, are we really so fragile? Can't we just enjoy and embrace other cultures? Maybe we should have conversations about the forty women murdered this year so far. Thank you, Carol, Well, that is something that we should talk more about. Carol, You're right. We do touch on it from time to time on the show, which is just a national disgrace. But yeah, how do we fix that problem? I'd love to. We've mentioned it many, many times. It kind of leads into our next story, which unfortunately is that there is a lot of violence in society these days, and not that there should ever be, but in two there should never be in the workforce surely, which makes it even more difficult to read today that Australian nurses are being assaulted at unprecedented rates. This is in the Eastern States. Expert are saying it's a result of the cost of living, pressures and a lack of consequences. A new report from the Nurses and Midwives Association of the New South Wales, so that one in five nurses have been threatened with a weapon, while almost half have been either punched, slapped or kicked. It's outrageous. Is it the case in South Australia as it is in New South Wales. Let's find out the social professor Elizabeth the Bars from the Australian Nursing and Midwifrey of SA lovely to have you won, Elizabeth, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 9: It's a pleasure, thank you for yours.
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Speaker 3: I assume that we're not immune to this kind of behavior in essay.
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Speaker 9: Look sadly we're not. This has been a really significant issue for our members for a very long time and we know that it's not support it. You know, the employers don't support the fact that this is happening. The issue is getting actually strategies in place that actually literally deal with the issue. That's the problem. We do know that there's a lot of drug and substance abuse in our society. The report is correct in saying that, you know, there's often very little consequence to people's actions, and then of course there are the other occasions where the person really doesn't have control over their body at that particular point in time, but that doesn't mean it's okay or should be acceptable. So we've long held the approach that it can and it should be a zero tolerance approach, that we need to put in every strategy in place to eliminate it. That should be the goal is not just minimization, but elimination. We do have and this is why it's a very sad indictment really on our system that many of our hospital and healthcare settings are now really a huge workforce in them is security personnel. And that's really it's not the ideal. It is a band aid solution, but when the problem is so enormous, you need to put in place people who can literally put hands on or to help out in those particular circumstances, or even better to prevent them from happening in the first place.
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Speaker 3: Elizabeth. Then the reporter talks about one measure being experimented with his hospitals around the country introducing separate wards for patients with behavioral issues. Have we got that here in SA.
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Speaker 9: Well to a degree we do have in some areas we've got a but it's really inadequate. I should hasten to add there's an they do a fantastic job. On the former repatriation site, there is an area for in particular elderly people with behavioral issues and they're doing amazing work there. But when we're talking about our emergency department through our general wards, as a general rule, no we don't have separate areas. We have been advocating for separate areas, particularly people struggling with either substance abuse or mental health issues to be put in separate areas really largely because you need to make sure that they are in a more settled environment so you're not actually triggering some of the behaviors that you really don't want them to be engaging in. You know, there's de escalation training, but the escalation only goes so far.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's interesting to the report now it is New South Wales, but I imagine a lot of these factors and issues that they're having, Elizabeth, would be the same you're facing here in South Australia. So it said eighty to eighty eight percent in just six years. When it comes to nurses, midwives and cares have experienced violence, nurses saying the abuse is pushing people out of the job. Have you found that have you lost great nurses in our industry here because.
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Speaker 9: Of that we have that's absolutely the case. We have had people who have been assaulted and been unable to return to work. We have had equally instances where people have been able to return to work, but some of their colleagues have seen what's happened to them and have just simply said enough is enough. So sadly, this is a serious problem. I mean, I've spoken to our members, one of whom had her hair literally ripped from her scalp from a patient who was unhappy. Another one who got punched in the face. We've got recent reports of people our wonderful nurses and midwives and stuff Australia walking to and from the car park being assaulted in recent months. The hospitals are responsive to the extent that they are trying to put in additional security and additional lighting, but it's really not fixing the issue, and the issue remains that violence and aggression continues to escalate, and really unless you're being literally accompanied by a security officer more times and even then, it's a really unpredictable environment. And we just continue to say we've got to work collectively, We've got to work together. We've got to identify all the problems and then offer solutions to them. And there have been some instances where there's been better protections put in place, so more barriers put in place areas that people can safely exit. Sadly, sometimes that does mean that the staff for exiting, but they can't take all of the other patients with them. So it's not just an issue for the nurses and midwives and other health professionals. It's a systemic issue. It's an issue for the other patients and visitors as well.
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Speaker 3: That's terrific. I read that one of the union bosses in New South Wales said there's now this expectation nurses just cop abuse as part of their jobs, which is that just passes no pub test. That's awful, Elizabeth, As you say it should be zero tolerance, Why is it not.
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Speaker 9: That's look, I think there's a I think where things get a bit difficult, and this is where you need to have all the people who are the decision makers on the same page about saying no that you know, nurses and midwives are not punching bags. They are not They're not to be abused, whether verbally or physically, and it's just not good enough. So I think, you know, we've been very clear that there are some circumstances that would mean, or we believe would mean that people have no right to health care treatment if that's how they're going to treat other people. We're very conscientious and aware that, you know, you've got to be careful about those circumstances because where is that fine line between the person not having capacity and still actually requiring health care. So we understand it's complex, but you know, if you're fit enough to be walking and talking and punching and hitting, depending on the circumstances, it may well be that you're fit enough not to be there. Yeah, the problem, The problem becomes where are you going?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine attacking someone who's trying to help you, like it just makes the mind boggle. Elizabeth Diabaz is my guest CEO of the Australian Nursing and Midwiffrey Federation. Sixty eight percent Elizabeth of nurses who experienced violence, according to the survey, didn't report it, believing that they would result in zero consequences and prevention in the future. I read that by twenty thirty five they're expecting a shortfall of seventy thousand nurses. Do you think if they don't fix it soon, that will continue or will be short of nurses.
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Speaker 9: I think it's one factor. I think it's one factor in a very very difficult situation. I mean, absolutely, violence and aggression does need to be addressed. It needs to be eliminated, it needs to be made clear it's not acceptable, and all the systems and structures put in place, both environmental and structural, to make that happen. And we have, you know, we have a ten point plan that we gave to the government and to their credit, they absolutely agreed with it. I think the problem remains making sure it's implemented to its fullest and making sure that it's not a set and forget. But I couldn't agree more. I think that sentiment about people feeling like if they report it, nothing happens anyway is a very serious one. I have directly spoken with the chief executives of the local health networks about the failure of their reporting system, and one of the big issues with it is there's no feedback loop. No one gets a response at the end of it to say thank you, we took on board your concern. And this is the outcome directly as a result of that concern. It feels like it goes into a vacuum, and you know, no one knows who sees it, what happens, what the results are, and there's no obvious change occurs. So this is a very important issue and one that we have advocated and continue to advocate. We must have a situation where people feel not just that they had their opportunity, but something happened and they became aware, they become aware of what indeed that outcome was, and even better, involve them in the process.
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Speaker 3: How important is consistency every state and territory you have their own EBA, so their own agreements when it comes to pay So some nurses in some states are paid less than others. Elizabeth, that makes no sense either.
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Speaker 9: We agree with you, and that is also what we were advocating to the state government, which is we can't have this national inconsistency for a whole range of reasons, one being that if you are really serious about recruiting and retaining your staff, that you've got to be nationally competitive and that means, you know, paying rates that compare favorably with other states and territories we do. I think it's a serious issue. We know in South Australia people are behind. As you know, people did have an opportunity to vote on an agreement recently they send a very strong message back to government saying that they didn't believe it reflected their worth, their value and are the national market. And so we are now proceeding with an arbitration on that same matter down in the Industrial Commission.
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Speaker 3: Well, Elizabeth, I don't know. I think you know, you guys should be paid what you should be paid, and I think we should kiss the ground that you walk on because the amount of work that you do, the fact that you nurses are underpaid and now they're a threat of violence going to the workplace, just that doesn't that's not right at all. So let's hope changes are made for the safety in the future of the industry going forward. I appreciate your time this afternoon, thank.
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Speaker 9: You, and I really appreciate your sentiment too.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Elizabeth. As the CEO of the Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation of South Australia, can you believe that one in five? So this is a new South Wales report, but you could pretty much take it. This is right across the country in all states, one in five nurses have been threatened with a weapon. The others half have been punched, slapped, or kicked. Really, nurses who are doing good for you? Now, I get it. It's substance abuse and mental health. I understand that maybe the people who are a feending aren't quite aware of what they're doing. But still, let's make it so that the nurses can have a workplace where they can feel safe and be paid accordingly. We'll find out how that all plays out. If you're someone who is a nurse yourself, if you've been in this industry, or you have a family or friend who's been in that situation, let us know. I mean some of the stories you hear just horrifying. Butefully the report being released leads to more changes and less figures, because that is they are big numbers. Seventy percent experienced violence and didn't report it because they didn't think it would get them anywhere. That's a sad indictment too, isn't it. You can have you save your wish double two three double A double.
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Speaker 3: Eleven minutes to two. Gale from Salisbury. You're a nurse, had experience and this ever faced any violent type behavior, Gail.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I have, unfortunately quite a few years ago when I was working in the ED. Yeah, I was hit by a patient who was drug affected and this patient was just so intoxicated with drugs and we had to get the security to come as a code black and it was just happened so quickly and it was just terrifying. And that was my experience, but I also know of other nurses that have experienced it, and it's it seems to be increasing. When I first started nursing, you didn't hear about it that much. And I think it's also a reflection on society what's happening out there. There's obviously more drugs, there seems to be less consequences, and whatever's happening in society, it happens.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 10: Obviously hospitals there's a great deal of people, volume of people coming through, so that's reflective, but yeah, not pleasant. I had to take time off work. Luckily, I consider myself lucky that I could come back to work, because I've heard of nurses that haven't been able to return, and it's just really tragic because they're only doing their job and just trying to help.
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Speaker 3: We need as many nurses as you know, Gail, as we can, so you don't want any leaving the workforce because of.
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Speaker 10: That, exactly exactly, And you know, like Elizus Gabarz said, you know, in by twenty thirty five, I think that's seventy thousand nurses short in South Australia and not getting paid on a par with other states doesn't help, because yeah, it's not attractive to nurses because you know, you've got to pay your mortgage, you've got to pay your bills. It is the sort of job that you do because you love it, but that doesn't pay the bills.
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Speaker 3: No, well, one hundred percent go no. And we're thankful for you doing that, and we're thankful for every nurse doing that. That's right, Pay them accordingly and give them a safe workplace. The fact that so many people now are insecurity is an indictment. But if that's what's needed, that's what's needed. Thank you, Gail, I appreciate the call. Thank you for sharing your story. Sally said the nurse's situation needs to be put into some perspective, patient insevere pain shouting out while being treated is not abuse, but it is reported as abuse to nurses, so the numbers could be wrong. Sally, I don't have verbal abuse numbers, but I do have physical abuse numbers. And what they were saying is that half of the nurses who were surveyed have been either punch slapped or kicked. Verbal abuse, but literal physical abuse. So yeah, I'm sure that number is even higher when it comes to verbal So thank you for that. Amideo says, take a walk up Guja Street. You'll see many of the Asian restaurant's signs have English translation underneath. Thank you for that. Andrea says, what's happening in the city, Run to a place, the huber Piri, the birth, death, marriages, office, fire trucks and news stations. About power issue, Yes there was, Andrea, we haven't been able to get to the bottom of it, but we know that there were some five hundred people affected by that. That has all changed. That's actually been fixed in the last half hour or so, which is the good news. But yeah, for a period there there was a lot of places in the mall without power. And on that Kathy said, here we go again with power outages. How many people are carrying cash? Remember cash is king. Thank you, Kathy. A double two to three, double O, double O is my number. I love this story. Before we get to the two o'clock news, new data is revealing that people are ditching traditional wellness trends. See, you know you're a bit stress, you're a bit under the pump. You think what I would do. I'll just go get a relaxing massage, or I'll just go to get a spa treatment or something. No, no, what they're doing is adrenaline fixes, extreme adrenaline, just to reset the mental health and get them going. It makes sense to me. Adelaide's skydiving center instructor is Richard Timperon. He joins me this afternoon, Richard, lovely to have you on.
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Speaker 11: Oh thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: You would experience that. I'm sure that people once they jump out of a plane land safely, they probably come over to you and they're adrenaline is buzzing and you know they're running high. Would be great for the mental health.
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Speaker 11: I would think as sure is I can guarantee you're not thinking about your phone when you're about to step out of a plane.
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Speaker 3: Are you noticing more and more people are doing that of all ages, trying to find that adrenaline rush.
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Speaker 11: H Yes and no. It's interesting. I've read that when I was looking at the data, and you know what, every generation have an increasing scott Open when they're in that age bracket of eighteen to twenty five. So I don't know that's really what's driving it, but the industry is certainly changing. And as far as getting away from your normal, a fixed world into a peace and quiet and meditation, it's definitely a way of forced meditation. A's one hundred percent. You're in the moment, You're not thinking about anything else. I would recommend if you struggle well with learning meditation like many people do, scott omals except I.
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Speaker 3: Love the idea Richard. People have got their work routines. I've got all this digital noise and they're saying, you know what, no green smoothie for me. I'm going with Richard jumping out of a plane of fifteen thousand feet that would be did you jump in the winter or is it just too much cloud cover? Youve got to wait for the nicer weather.
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Speaker 12: No, No, we jump all year.
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Speaker 11: Get held up a little bit more in the winter, but we've seen some of our nicest days. Sometime I can get quite hot and dermic winds can come up, but winter time to get those smooth are but it is colder. So I do understand that people don't want to come out as much.
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Speaker 3: So I did it. I was telling Graham Godding's earlier Richard. I did it with my father in Gulwa and my brother and my wife for my dad's I think it was his sixtieth and it was just a great family bonding experience. And even you know, we had such a beautiful day, but that little period richer where you go through the clouds where it's nice and warm and calm and then there's a brief sort of arctic blast, that itself was something so special to experience.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Look, if you sometimes you can get it where though there's huge, fussy white clouds and open up the parachuting to fly around the slide of them, the sun's bouncing off them, as just you wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
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Speaker 3: And I never felt like I was going to die, maybe because I had a person strapped to my back and thought, well, day I want to die, So I'm not going to die. When I bungee jumped, I did for a brief period thought gee, I hope this can't he clip this right to my ankles. Otherwise this could be it. But it's super safe and it's super enjoyable for people to try. They should get out of their comfort zone and come and jump with you.
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Speaker 9: That's right.
00:39:15
Speaker 11: But that's part of the attraction though, isn't it just not knowing one hundred percent taking a risk.
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Speaker 3: Are you finding we've got an older demographic at five double A in terms of our listenership. Are you finding people of older generations taking the plunge and enjoying the skydive?
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Speaker 11: Yes, that's so. I think overall people are not doing as much as they used to do. However, we do find that the older generation are more likely to learn Scott Over was not time everyone learned when in their early twenties.
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Speaker 7: Yep.
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Speaker 11: But now a lot of people skipping that. And then they once they get their life set up and houses under control, they come out in their forty sixty years they're wanting to learn to SkyLife. So which is you know, I kick themselves fast and mentally thing later. That's fine, but sometimes I can have its own challenges.
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Speaker 3: How many years you've been sky diving, Richard, how many jumps would you have any idea?
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Speaker 11: I don't know about fourteen thousand jumps over thirty one years.
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Speaker 3: Fourteen thousand. Is there one jump better than the other in Adelaide and South Australia or they're all good?
00:40:25
Speaker 11: Oh, they're all good.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Sure, we do one into the winery and the caravels. That's pretty magic, especially we've got people coming to watch. It's just a perfect setting to watch.
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Speaker 3: You come in on land and it's weird because I guess it doesn't take the actual freefall itself before you pull the ripcord. I don't know how long that period of time is, Richard, but I remember at the gool One looking around going you know, you can see landmarks in the ocean and like, there's it's actually a nice little site. Are still falling? Yeah, like that. It seems like it goes really I don't know what the falling time is before.
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Speaker 11: You pull, but it's around about a minute.
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Speaker 3: Really.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It was excellent and traditionally fifteen thousand feet or higher or lower.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, So everywhere in Australia's fifteen has feet the max you can go do the oxygen restrictions and yeah, it's really complicated to go higher than that, but you've seen there's plenty.
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Speaker 3: I think, well, if people want to take part in your services and do a jump, what do we need to know? Maybe they want to reset their mental health, maybe they want to tick something off the bucket list, you know, bring some excitement and adrenaline and thrill seeking to their life. What should they do, Richard, Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Jump on the website or give us a ring. Adelaide Skydiving Center, like said, we do the lower light one. If you want to learn, we can come out there or do a tandem, or you can come to Sky of the Vines at mcclarenbaugh into the winery if you want on some a little bit more upmarket.
00:41:54
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good Christmas gift idea too.
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Speaker 11: I think it's just definitely you know, if you love them or hate them, it doesn't matter. You can get them at.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, read into it what you will that we want to throw you out of a plane. Richard, Thank you, I appreciate your time this afternoon.
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Speaker 2: Happy for well done.
00:42:11
Speaker 3: That is Richard Timper on Adelaide's Skydiving Center instructor fourteen thousand. So how's that two in every three skydivers they're now saying they're gen Z, which is the eighteen to twenty four year olds. The ditching traditional wellness trends for extreme adrenaline fixes. So no more meditation apps, no more calm on your phone, jump out of a plane. If you've never done it, I would highly recommend it. It's well worth doing. If you have experienced it, I'd love to know your thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Leek Forrest.
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Speaker 3: Five minutes after two. Thanks for tuning in on this Tuesday afternoon Big hour on the way. We'll speak to the team from Phil Hopman Travel. Peter Williams will be here as well as Alex from Konard. If you love the cruising and you love the Queens, you'll be interested in that chat this afternoon, and we'll speak Trent Nikolick in just one second. Always great to have Trent on the show. A couple of quick texts before we do, Tom said, least, what does a cost a skydive? From memory? Tom, it's a couple of hundred dollars. I think that's the one that we did around Goolwerk. Now again I did mine probably ten years ago, fifteen years ago. Oh, hang on Madeline's foundly it's now a bit over five hundred dollars for a fifteen thousand foot jump. Now again, you know it's a one off. Quite often you do it as a special occasion unless you learn how to do it. But I think ours, from memory was a couple of hundred at the time, but it was well worth doing. People pay that now for concerts, So that's the kind of cost that you want to pay. I would assume if you're doing one of the wineries that we mentioned, that might be a little bit more expensive. And Andrews said regarding the AI Royal Commission from our premier, it should be a global conference, not a three million dollar royal commission for a small state of one point five mel premier once elect this profile nationally for a future tilt at federal politics. It's all about Peter, thank you, Andrew. I'm not sure if that's what he's designed. I certainly think that will be the outcome. I thought that yesterday when he announced it. Why would we do that? That's what the Prime Minister should be doing. Ah, maybe Peter should be the Prime Minister. Maybe you're under something, Andrew, thank you appreciate it. Hey, double two to three double O double ow join the conversation. Every caller that goes to wear before four o'clock in the running for the family pass for the Royal Show, which is about three and a half weeks away. As I mentioned, always fun to speak to. My next guest, Trent Nikolick from cars drive dot com dot he's the motoring expert god a Trent. Lovely to have you on.
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Speaker 14: Oh, I make good afternoons to you and to all your listeners.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to try again wheels media. Do you know it's one of those things You've got a lot on the plate. There's a lot going on.
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Speaker 2: In your world.
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Speaker 14: You can just say five double a motoring expert.
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Speaker 3: Well, yes, thanks, I know. Do you know I looked on the screen and went, no, it's not there. Let me try and get it from memory and the brain fog from COVID have me probably four jobs that you've never worked. Lovely to have you on, though, thank you for coming on.
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Speaker 2: Hey.
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Speaker 3: Every time we get to speak, it's fun because you know that cars are a big deal in this town and eves trigger our listeners like nothing else. This is not so much a triggering story, but I think a really interesting information piece about the biggest challenge of owning an EV is that people don't know or how to prepare for getting behind the wheel because it's so different. It's like learning how to drive all over again.
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Speaker 2: Trent.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, this is not news to me, obviously, because I've spent so much time testing them, and I've always fascinated speaking to people who are in their first electric vehicle, and it's quite interesting. There's a story that you and I are referring to here that show that a lot of the data illustrates that the first accident that you have in your EV is likely to happen in the first early period of ownership. And that's because they're completely different things to own and drive. Now, when we talk about them and when your listeners are about them, the focus, unsurprisingly is on probably three things range how do I charge them? And then what do they cost? They're the three things that we tend to talk about here. But I think something that's probably valuable for anybody who's buying a new car, whether it's hybrid, plug in, hybrid electric or regular now is when you buy that car, I'd probably sit in it in the driveway for a good couple of hours before I even took it anywhere. I'd get it straight home from the dealer, and then I'd sit in the driveway and I would familiarize myself with everything. Because with a modern car, the simple act of turning up the fan speed on the air conditioning, or the temperature on the air conditioning, or turning your heated seats on and off, or adjusting the radio volume, for example, those things in a lot of new cars, not just electric. They don't come up in the form of a physical button or a switch that you just reference where it is on the dashboard and use it. They could be within a menu system, behind a touch screen, behind an operating system. There's a lot of complexity there. Then beyond all of that, once you get familiar with all of that, is how you actually drive them. Electric vehicles. Yes, they're a car. They look like a car when you sit in them. They've got a steering wheel and two pedals, and they kind of drive like a car, but they do behave very differently.
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Speaker 3: So I've never driven one, but I've watched. If I've taken like an uber or ride share as to how the driver goes about it. The idea trend of one pedal driving an instant acceleration. Again, it's going from the old days of when you were sixteen years of age and you got in that manual car and you've got a clutch of break and an accelerator to deal with. I imagine why you would see some crash patterns emerging or people being reluctant to drive.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, spot on and look the biggest difference, So your connection to the car, even with an older automatic, let alone a manual, is very different to an electric vehicle. The easiest way I can describe it, if you talk about acceleration to start with, it's like an on off switch, so it's not very progressive. So basically, when you walk into a room and it's dark and you turn the lights on, the lights come on full light, and then when you turn them off, goes pitch black again. If you nail the accelerator pedal in an electric car, even a slower electric car, it's like all hell breaks loose, because even a slow electric car is fast, let alone the fast ones right, So that part of it is very different it's nowhere near as progressive in that the speed and the power builds in the way that it does in a conventional vehicle. And then look, the one pedal driving thing for me is fascinating, I find myself. And this could just be because I jump in and out of so many different cars. I find myself getting comfortable with the one pedal driving thing very quickly when I jump into an electric car, and they're all a little bit different. But for listeners who don't know what we're talking about, you can set them up so that when you lift off the accelerator, the electric has actually reversed the way that they spin, and they then eke back some electricity as well some charge. But it basically slows the car down, and once you get used to it, you can effectively drive around without using the brakes much at all. Sometimes you won't use them at all, sometimes very little. But I also understand that for a lot of people that's very disconcerting because you take your foot off the accelerator and the car doesn't free roll in the way that an automatic or manual would. It starts to slow down. So I think what a lot of people I would recommend they do while they're getting familiar with everything else that the car does, because it's all going to be new to them. I would turn one pedal driving off and then it feels pretty much like a conventional automatic until you get used to everything else, and then turn it back on and start.
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Speaker 6: To get used to it.
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Speaker 3: Trent On, no chance I've driven in cars because mine is not one of those touch starts. The amount of times I've left the keys inside the car and walk down or left the motor running, you know, thinking that because we're so used, there's muscle memory to it. It was interesting to read in some of the data that came out from this research. Seven and ten EV owners believe they knew what to expect, but many later admitted they were all caught off guard.
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Speaker 14: Spot on, yes, spot on, and look at that point you make. There is a very good one. I always joke, and there's a lot of these in modern cars. But the keyless ignition thing is the answer to a question nobody asked. No one went to a team of engineers and said, oh, look, this act of putting the key into the ignition and turning it. That's way too hard. I don't want to do that. Can you remove that. I'll I'll keep this big fat bulky key in my pocket if I'm a bloke, or in a handbag if I'm a woman, or maybe both either or now these days as well. And then what happens is you either the amount of times the amount of times that for example, I'll jump in my mum's car and her key is in her handbag, so it won't unlock until she goes around right up to the passenger door. For the car door unlocked, I'm standing there like a goose. If it's raining outside getting wet, then when you go to lock it, I need to take the key out of mum's bag to do it. Or if I've got the key in my pocket, I've got a big lump in my pocket that I don't really want there while I'm driving around. It's silly that sort of stuff. But yeah, again, it's easy to lose the key, drop it somewhere where you don't know where it is. It falls into a storage pocket in the door or whatever it might be. But I think there's just what this illustrates, and your listeners will certainly have an opinion on this, But what this illustrates is that a modern car now is a hell of a lot more like a computer or an iPad or a phone, that there's all this other layer of technology that you need to learn and understand outside of just driving it.
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Speaker 2: Trend.
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Speaker 3: Nikolick is my guess editor of Wills Media, So on that trend, you know, the police always talk about distraction. You know, you can't be on your phone because you're distracted. For anyone who hasn't driven an EV how much is the touchscreen and the controls that you need for that? Is that playing any part When you look at the rise in accidents with evs, I.
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Speaker 14: Reckon it is. I've got a huge issue with it. I've written this and said this in video reviews many times over the last five years or so that I think manufacturers that are trying to go so far down the path of having no button switches or controls and then everything is on the screen in the center that you have to access it is way too distracting, way too hard, and way too difficult to get to in terms of the layers that you have to work through in order to So if you're driving along and you've got the mapping screen on, but you want to change the temperature in the air con you've got to tap a couple of times to get to it to turn the temperature up. Tesla has gotten away with having everything on the center stack, including the speedometer reading and even in the Model three, the gear shifter, so there's not even a stalk anymore to choose the gear. It's a touch screen in the middle as part of the touch screen. And look, I've had an issue with it since it's started because I just think, again, it's the answer to a question nobody asked, but also it requires you all of those level of things, like try to do a quick three point turn in a Tesla Model three that you've got to mess around with the touch screen to put it in reverse and back to drive. It just doesn't make sense.
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Speaker 3: Now, how is that safe if you're tapping on your screen like it's a phone.
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Speaker 14: Yep, exactly. I think anything that takes your eyes away from dead to head is problematic, which is why cars that have got a head up display and now head up displays are fantastic. The way that they reflect up in the windscreen such that when you don't need it, you forget that it's there, but when you do need it, it's extremely visible.
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Speaker 2: To you.
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Speaker 14: Cars that have got a good head up display like that, I think should get bonus points. But I think that's why I say, for example, that's why I say things like sitting in your driveway and learning where all the commands and controls are is so important, because there'll be proponents of this stuff that we'll say, yeah, but I can sit in let's say it's a Mercedes Benz, I can sit in a Mercedes Bends and say, hey, Mercedes, turn the air on up to twenty two degrees, or hey, Mercedes turned the driver's heated seat on. Yeah you can do that, but do you really want to have to do that? Did you need to have to do that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, one hundred percent. And you drive so many I see occasionally they'll advertise and say, oh, this car now comes with a built in DVD player, And again I think, what isn't that a distraction?
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Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, the reality of that.
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Speaker 14: So Tesla was one of the first to do it. That you could because Tesla doesn't have Apple Car Player, Android Auto. What you have to do is put all the apps on the Tesla system and then sign into them. Tesla's sales pitch was that you know, while you're sitting there waiting for your car to charge for forty minutes, you can watch an episode of your favorite show on Netflix on your screen. That's okay because it disables itself as soon as the cars moving, so you can't be driving around watching TV. But I just think, even you know, there's a reason that young drivers p players aren't allowed to be using the mapping and the phone systems and stuff, even if they've got Apple car Play and Android all that, because even though it's high tech, and even though it's better than fiddling around with your phone in your lap, it's still distracting you from what you're actually doing.
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Speaker 3: That's right, you take your eyes off off the road for two seconds to look at your phone. So I guess are they alled to pea platters allowed to use the audio navigation? Like is Siria allowed to tell you where you're going? Or none of that is?
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Speaker 14: I was talking to my little niece certainly, who just got her peace certainly up in New South Wales. I was talking to her about this last week. She's technically not allowed to have any functionality of her phone at all connected through the infotainment system, so she can run if the car has satellite navigation itself in built into the car. I think that's allowed to run. But nothing that's related to the phone, whether it's audio streaming or anything else.
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Speaker 3: Just wat jannide if you're a peaplad to get lost because you have no idea where you're going now, true, just so it doesn't feel like a pylon, because I know that we have some audience members who do love their evs, despite the fact that the first three months of ownership is the highest risk period with crash patterns emerging, despite the fact that EV's rearing crashes account for one in five collision claims. People tell me it's a quite smooth and relaxing drive, would you agree.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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Speaker 14: There's a certain premium luxury to the way that an electric vehicle behaves because it's quiet. It's funny how when you stop and think about it, whether it's a house, you know, the cabin of the aeroplane that you're in, a hotel, or a car, we subconsciously define luxury as quiet and silence, and the quieter something is, the more luxurious it feels. So you know, if you sit down in an hotel room and you close the door, and it's really quiet. You go, wow, how nice is this? I can't even hear what the person next door is doing. So I think when you're driving around in an EV, that is absolutely something that's relevant to it. And I think once you get past those questions that I mentioned right at the start. So if you've bought an EV and you pass the point of worrying about how you charge it and how much range.
00:56:44
Speaker 2: It has so where you.
00:56:44
Speaker 6: Can drive from, and.
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Speaker 14: Then I think once you speak to people, they go, yeah, I love it. I've had a really good experience with it. Most people, if they're smart, they're charging it at home. Whether they've got solar or not, they're charging it at home, so they're not at the behest of the public charging network. And for a lot of people, yeah, they get past that initial hurdle of all the strange things that they do and say, yeah, I love this.
00:57:07
Speaker 6: It's a great experience.
00:57:09
Speaker 3: So right, so get through the hesitation at first, then you'll become a fanboy. Is what you're telling me. I'm going to have to give that.
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Speaker 14: Isn't that what they told you when you're eighteen or nineteen and you could start drinking alcohol. I used to say, I'll just keep trying and you'll like it eventually.
00:57:22
Speaker 3: Well, you see, I'm a teetotaler. That exactly right. I pushed back. Eventually they kept saying that, and I said, Trent, if you eat rocks enough, eventually you'll enjoy the taste. I don't want to eat rocks.
00:57:34
Speaker 7: I don't want to eat rock.
00:57:36
Speaker 3: It's always great to have you on. Thank you for that. Before I let you go, were allowed to just twist your arm. I know for wheels media. You're in New Zealand. Are you doing something exciting and you can just tease us with.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I can say, next time we speak, I'll tell you what exactly the experience that I've had. But I'm over here in Queenstown where they've got a thing called the Southern Hemisphere Proving Ground, which is effectively a big racetrack like facility that's on ice all in New Zeale. So we're testing. We're here with Zeker, one of.
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Speaker 3: The op we've lost him. Oh we just see somebody cut us off. They didn't want that story. I know you're back, you're back. We lost you for two seconds.
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Speaker 14: Okay, Yeah, that's all right mate. I'm with Zeker. So I'm going to be test driving their whole range of cars, basically one of them on a regular racetrack and then a whole bunch of them on ice and snow. So next time we speak, I'll let you know.
00:58:26
Speaker 7: Exactly what they're like.
00:58:27
Speaker 3: So you're living the grand tour kind of lifestyle there at Wills Media. You get to travel in all these amazing cars and test amount of track work.
00:58:37
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's basically out work like the Stig.
00:58:39
Speaker 3: That's amazing, Trent, I have a good time. Oh, I appreciate you being on.
00:58:43
Speaker 6: Thank you mate.
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Speaker 3: Trent Nikolik is the editor of Wils Media. So there you go. If you're thinking about getting an EV, don't worry about It's not just the charging that you have to worry about. The survey says half of Australians don't feel prepared to get behind the wheel. Good advice from Trent. Just sit in the driveway for a couple of hours and test out all the bits and bobs. If anyone's got an EV that they want to tell us about their experience, how did you go? Was it difficult to change from the muscle memory, the creature of habit that you were in a traditional petrol or diesel car into something that all of a sudden has one pedal driving, has instant acceleration, and a whole new set of technology that you need to learn. You can share that story with.
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Speaker 1: Us if you wish five double a afternoons with Leep Forest deb On.
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Speaker 3: The text said, just in terms of the cost of skydiving, all at COSTU is a new pair of honeies. I didn't find it to be honest, that frightening skydiving, because again, you do have someone attached to your back, so you feel they don't want to die, so you're not going to die. However I would, and anyone else who's bungee jump can attest to this. Al sure, there is a brief second when you jump off the platform bungee jumping on your own, where the only thing attaching you to the bungee cord is the clip on your ankles. There is a split second where you think this might be it because I am free falling and let's hope that the carnie clipped it right. But certainly no, I didn't feel ever once frightened skot diving. It's well worth checking out. It'd be fun if you're a lover of the Barossa to do it at one of the wineries, or if you can do it at good they offer it as semifore two. So plenty of places for you to jump out of the plane here in Adelaide, and Ann said talking about the nurses getting treated rough by the patients, can understand why not keen to be nurses. Many in the age care couldn't safely stop a little old lady, you remember, getting around with the knife and the police tasted her. The lady fell and she died. I mean it's possible that some are there or family.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: It was very sad. So yeah, it's a certain concern. I mean, we have a shortage of health professionals now, so if they don't fix up the situation with the violence in our HKA facilities and hospitals, then you can imagine, as Elizabeth de Barr said, that there will be a mass shortage going ahead. Before headlines, Alan's going to speak to us on EV's Hello Allen.
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Speaker 7: Yes, good morning, I got up. Yeah, it just interested that this is your last caller in regards to these new elected cars. And I've all that because when you started driving, when back in the day when you still learn driving, you to have a driving instructor. Did you teach you to drive a vehicle? Yes, maybe there could be an opportunity for people that may be available to teach people how to drive the EV.
01:01:39
Speaker 3: That's a great point, like a wea coy that. That's one hundred percent right, isn't it? Alan Because you get into a car as a youngster with a driving instructor, whether you're driving stick or you had to learn how to drive a manual and you're taught, but you get a brand new car with brand new technology and you meant to fin for it yourself.
01:01:56
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good point. I reckon they should some I should come up with something like that million dollar idea set up driving school for EV.
01:02:05
Speaker 3: I'm sure there is a business there. I wonder if they offer that at the dealers. Now, if you buy an electric.
01:02:10
Speaker 7: Vehicle, what I'll sell it to here?
01:02:13
Speaker 3: That's right by get out the door and then you're loaning like mad trap and.
01:02:17
Speaker 7: Enjoyed, enjoy the future with your car. Yeah. My brother, my brother just brought his YEP ever and I'm sure he's a bet you mind it?
01:02:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing. Good idea. Allan, thank you for that, Mark, one of the Adelaide thinkers, Alan from Henley Beach, Mark from Angelvar. I've got a thought on the EV's before headlines.
01:02:37
Speaker 15: After you bought your EV and the battery doesn't work anymore, how much does it cost for another one?
01:02:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point too. Don't know, I'm not sure I never had one. Is it expensive?
01:02:50
Speaker 15: I believe it's ridiculously expensive. Like your solar house batteries they last for ten years? Then ye, yeah, you've got to get out of this solar and battery stuff because it's just costing us more and more money. Well to wait for the data sends to kick in and South Australia and there's no water left in the Murray because my data center's used so much.
01:03:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't you think it's good to go at least a hybrid model where you can be good for the environment and still have the security of petrol.
01:03:22
Speaker 15: Why don't we continue building cars in Australia?
01:03:26
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's true. Unfortunately all manufacturing's gone from this country though.
01:03:31
Speaker 15: How well we've only got one people to play for that.
01:03:36
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know what do you do? Mark? Unfortunately, it's offered elsewhere, and it's offered a lot cheaper. So business care about shareholders and profits more than they care about the workers necessarily in this case. So it's not just automotive, but every manufacturing went right across the board. So thank you for that, though appreciate it. Madeline did some work for me. Mark out of warranty batteries are between six thousand and twenty thousand Australian, that is via compare the market. So yeah, that is an expensive battery. Albeit you know what would it cost you to get your car service regularly for how long is the battery life? Ten fifteen years? Maybe it's not quite ten grand, but twenty thousand. Rather, there you go. Well, if the government gets their way, all of us will be driving electric vehicles. That's what we talked about with Trent of recent time. There are some that you can't even get into the country. They're making it a bit more difficult because they're trying to push you into that area, which people don't like. He's always a great chat Trent Nikolick. He's always up with the divisive issues of automotive. We're going to take a break two thirty headlines with mel I hope you can stick around, because next we'll check in with the weather Bureau get the official details on today and always fun talking travel. Peter Williams is here from.
01:04:55
Speaker 1: PhD five double a afternoons with Leaf for us.
01:05:00
Speaker 3: We talk travel in just one moment with PHT at twenty eight to three. Let's check in first with the weather Bureau get all the numbers for today. Angus Shines joins us from the bureau. Lovely to have you on Angus Afternoonly, how we go, very good? Thank you. What are we seeing numbers wise on this Tuesday afternoon.
01:05:16
Speaker 16: Yeah, at the moment, not too bad to be honest. In maketure of sunshine and cloud moving through. Getting a bit cloudy a day as we pushed towards the end of the day. Currently fourteen point nine degrees in the city there at the moment fifteen point six out of the airport. We're generally seeing high fourteens across most of our suburbs around Parafield no longer. That's sort of fourteen and a half to fifteen degree range. It is a little gusty though, wins through the city at the moment twenty five k's an hour is that average speed, But we're seeing those gusts up into the forties, so people probably getting out, you know, just pushed around a little bit if you're out in exposed spots at the moment. No rain so far today, but that could change a little bit later on in the picture.
01:05:52
Speaker 3: Okay, So for the week, are we staying around the mid to high teens.
01:05:55
Speaker 16: We are?
01:05:56
Speaker 2: We are?
01:05:56
Speaker 16: Yeah, temperatures really not budging at all for the next several days. We've got fifth steens and sixteens is our maximums Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, as we put it, for the weekend, a bit of an early sinus, the slightly warmer conditions kicking in. We're sort of between seventeen and nineteen by the time the weekend rolls around. But the next several days those temperatures aren't budging. Our overnight minimum temperatures also staying pretty static. We're looking to drop down to about eight or nine degrees each of the next three or four nights, including tonight, temperature wise, not.
01:06:25
Speaker 3: A big shift, not a lot. Fifteen degrees at the moment feels like seven. We're about to talk travel angus. Where in New Zealand are you from Yeah.
01:06:32
Speaker 16: Well done, picked up, picked up on that one. Good on you.
01:06:36
Speaker 3: I'm from Wellington, Ah, Wellington.
01:06:39
Speaker 16: Wellington exactly so honestly, forty kilometer in our gusts, not much to me.
01:06:44
Speaker 3: See, when you're part of a New Zealand family, you just pick up the occasional word. You go, okay, that's a bit of kio ky we blood that well don't angus, Thank you, We'll speak to you tomorrow. Yeah, all the best angus. Heins from the weather Bureau. So afresh. It feels like seven degrees at the moment, but staying in the mid high teams for the rest of the week.
01:07:01
Speaker 14: Five double a travel talk thanks to Phil Hoffman travel for over thirty years, creating moments you'll never forget.
01:07:08
Speaker 3: Spot Wellington. I love cold, cold, cold and off and windy. Yes he is one of Williams. Is he managing director? See good spot though, like you get up on the hill and they got that little train thing.
01:07:20
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's got a little coffee culture.
01:07:22
Speaker 2: It's got some great wine over.
01:07:23
Speaker 3: There in the stadium where they played the soccer and the sport there like the little Talet bowl there.
01:07:27
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. All accessible to the city. So yeah, it's a great replace.
01:07:31
Speaker 3: Just a little squirt right across the ditch. Why would you show in New Zealand? Welcome, lovely to see you. How was Perth? You're away on some work?
01:07:38
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, we run a big event over there as well now, so big World travel fest over there. So yeah, it was fantastic and had the team over there. We we tooked about twenty five of our team from SA, but we've now got a base over there, so we've got six staff over there.
01:07:53
Speaker 3: Excellent and like what we see here at the communiers over there.
01:07:56
Speaker 18: Correct, Yeah, so just a slightly smaller versions. We've only been over there just over twelve months, but yeah, that's fantastic and great bookings, very positive.
01:08:04
Speaker 3: So yeah it was good, excellent, Well, welcome back, thank you. You didn't miss a lot weather wise, No, just a monsoon, an apocalyptic monsoon.
01:08:11
Speaker 18: No, I did hear that it was pretty average here. I must say it wasn't much better in Perth. So I think it's all over Australia. There's rain everywhere.
01:08:19
Speaker 2: But it was even cold in Perth. It should never be cold in Perth.
01:08:22
Speaker 3: But I think it ever gets cold. This is why they've got to get into PhD you find their sun. Where are we going around the world. We are seeing more Australians book holidays closer to departure.
01:08:31
Speaker 18: It's a funny thing. There's a bit of a pattern going on at the moment. People are either booking a really long time in advance, and that's mainly for cruising, because if you want to get the right cabin at the right time, you kind of good book twelve months in advance, or a lot of people are just going, you know, I just need to get away from this cold weather. Let's go to Bali, Let's go to Thailand, Let's go to Vietnam. So we're kind of seeing a bit of a pattern at the moment that it's either really late or really early.
01:08:55
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's interesting. Is the impulse by I've got some time, let's go now.
01:09:00
Speaker 18: You know, they read the Escape or they listen to us here on five double A and they go, yeah, I'm ready to go.
01:09:06
Speaker 3: And I guess there's benefits for both and that if you do have the great lag time, as you say, you definitely don't miss out. You've also got something to look forward to. On the flip side, if you can afford it, if you get a good deal, why would you not sneak away for a little bit.
01:09:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what happens, Leith.
01:09:20
Speaker 18: There's a lot of our customers that they've actually got two bookings on the go at any one time now, So yeah, they've got one though for grider bands, and then they hold off and they see a good deal and they go, yep, let's go. There's a two for one deal, or there's a thirty percent off offer. Yep, we're ready to go.
01:09:33
Speaker 3: How good is that?
01:09:34
Speaker 2: Pack the bags and you've got both off to the airport.
01:09:37
Speaker 3: You've also been the announcer as a finalist for the most Outstanding Branded Leisure Travel Agency. This is nice here in the double digits for this alienable digits.
01:09:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really proud of the team. We've won this award thirteen times, Leith.
01:09:49
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:09:49
Speaker 18: I think the award's been going for just under thirty years, so on regularly every second year we've been winning it and we've just been announced to finalists for next year. So it's a real celebration for the team because they do work hard.
01:10:01
Speaker 2: They work really really hard.
01:10:02
Speaker 18: They're professional, they look after you know, a lot of clients and you know, they create dreams for them and I think when they get nominated, and you know, when we're lucky enough to win, it's a great celebration head office because you know they've done.
01:10:15
Speaker 2: A great job.
01:10:16
Speaker 3: When you think too national, so punching out our weight. South Australia were the big hitters in the Eastern States. So well done, that's right.
01:10:22
Speaker 18: Yeah, we against all the all the big brands out there, and I think we stack up really well. Our personalized services is what we're known for, and I think these days, I was just saying to the team the other day that no longer can we say that we hold all the knowledge we know. You know, there's AI and everyone's googling stuff and things like that, and some of it's really good. It does take a lot of fact checking and you know, our guys have got all the personal knowledge there to add to that. But I think it's that before sales and very importantly the after sales care is what we're known for, and that duty of care is critical when things go wrong, and we saw that with the Middle East situation, you know where our team all jumped in on the Sunday sorted everyone out for the next month and everyone was happy.
01:11:04
Speaker 2: Now you can't get that on AI.
01:11:06
Speaker 18: So that's that's where I think our strength is now in that.
01:11:11
Speaker 2: Of course we've got great knowledge.
01:11:13
Speaker 18: You know, my team did three hundred international trips last year, but we also understand the AI is here and we will compliment that and that will complement what we do. But no one will be able to fix the problems like we do.
01:11:25
Speaker 3: Like a human being, you want to work in tandem, don't you. But I know that if something goes wrong overseas, I'd much rather be speaking to one of your staff than chat GPT. So I've got a bit more faith than that. I think, so well done. So one of the.
01:11:38
Speaker 18: Awards, So we put in a submission the other day with us to put our submission in, I think they'll announce the awards probably, you know, another month or two fingers crossed. They go through a process. I get interviewed, there's a bit of a panel and we'll see where it's.
01:11:54
Speaker 3: Let's go fourteen before we speak to our very special guests. Alex Oakley's going to join us from Cunard, which is one of the much loved brands, isn't it of travel fantastic.
01:12:06
Speaker 18: Yes, And I was on Queen Anne with Alex about eighty months ago for its launch and that was very exciting, So no doubt we'll talk about that. But the cruising is so popular right across all the brands. Cunard is one of those it just seems everlasting.
01:12:20
Speaker 2: It's royal, it's it's.
01:12:21
Speaker 18: It's British, it's it's a bit special. It's got its own little lane that we that we just love promoting. And I know my sister she's booked her third trip on her. She only started cruising on Cunado about two or three years ago. She won't look at another line now. She just goes yep, that's for me, yeah.
01:12:38
Speaker 2: Which is terrific.
01:12:39
Speaker 3: We had one of our regular callers, Wesley. He would only go on the Couonard ships and then bounce around the ones. And you're right because it's not it's not the ship with necessarily the sky diving and the wave of riding and that kind of stuff. It's great food and great libraries and great spots. Yeah all that.
01:12:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Silver ser Yeah, that pretty service.
01:12:59
Speaker 18: The White Club, that's the cucumber morning sandwiches for morning tea. Exceptional dining exceptional, you know, and so we'll touch base with Alex on that. But look, cruisy cruising has just it's going through such a boon at the moment. And as I was saying to the presentations over in Perth, it was yesterday actually, I was just saying, you know what, there's a cruise for everyone. It doesn't matter whether you you know, it's the biggest ship in the world, or it's a fun ship, or it's a smaller ship that's discovering the Antarctic.
01:13:31
Speaker 2: There's always going to be a ship for someone. And a lot of.
01:13:33
Speaker 18: Our holidays these days, in fact, fifty to se of them have a cruise component to it.
01:13:37
Speaker 2: It's never the whole holiday, will.
01:13:39
Speaker 18: Very rarely is it the whole holiday. But it's part of your holiday. It's part of that mix. And you know, people that are going to Europe, then they they're packing unpacking every couple of days and they go, you know what, how about we float around the med for ten days or fourteen days?
01:13:52
Speaker 2: Fantastic? Right, You just you can take a breath back and you can relet.
01:13:55
Speaker 18: Similarly, when we do our Candre Alaska, you know we've got fourteen days of touring, but then we have seven it's cruising through Alaska. So it always compliments your I guess you're touring, or your villa stay or the busier party a holiday with that relaxed part.
01:14:09
Speaker 3: So you can imagine your clients and the people who cruise are choosing it for all of those reasons are like grave value. It's all inclusive in that you get your food and all of that kind of stuff.
01:14:18
Speaker 2: Exceptional value.
01:14:19
Speaker 18: Exceptional value at the moment because we all know the costs have increased substantially for food, drinks, entertainment, inflations, just blowing that out. So if you can get a fixed cost on your cruise where that's all included, you know your budget straight away, and they're buying it in bulk, so at the end of the day they're going to buy a lot a lot cheaper than what we're going to as well. So look, you know, I love cruising. I've my kids have grown up cruising. I've done you know, hundreds of cruising, and I just think there's a cruise for everyone.
01:14:48
Speaker 3: And even the you know, talking about New Zealand before, like the complete experience of it. So we're on the ship, you get off at a port, you get back on you go to the next place, as opposed to getting a.
01:14:58
Speaker 2: Car or floating hotel.
01:15:00
Speaker 18: Yeah, so yeah, you unpack once and basically your hotel is going to move around and someday, you know, day at sea, which is awesome.
01:15:06
Speaker 2: I love a good day at sea sitting by the pool.
01:15:08
Speaker 3: So do you love a challenge? When someone comes to you and they go, cruising is not for me, You're like, no challenge, found the right.
01:15:14
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite conversations.
01:15:15
Speaker 18: And it happens quite a bit, you know, with the with the non cruiser, who I wouldn't like it?
01:15:20
Speaker 2: Oh, you know that's too big, too small.
01:15:22
Speaker 18: I'm going to get bored. You know, that's that's the best one. I'm going to get bored. Really, So you don't like, you know, different venues, different bars, different restaurants.
01:15:33
Speaker 2: Broadway shows, you know.
01:15:35
Speaker 18: And then the bonus is you're in a different city each day or every second day.
01:15:38
Speaker 3: Do you know the other thing that I always having cruise now with you guys, A couple of times when you hear the number of people that are on the ship, and yet it's not you're not crammed. It's not like those trains you're seeing in India, you know, like you can move around and just not even see people that you know.
01:15:53
Speaker 2: Not at all.
01:15:54
Speaker 18: And I might have mentioned a couple of weeks ago, but I just recently back from cruising on the biggest, biggest ship ever, the Legend of the Sea's Royal Caribbean, and it takes seven thousand people.
01:16:03
Speaker 2: And I can understand some of the listeners going out there that's not for me.
01:16:06
Speaker 18: But the experience that I was talking people through was two fantastic experiences. One of them was called Hollywood Land and it was celebrating the silver screen of the fifties, and there was thirty two people that enjoyed that night out, you know, so I could have been in this little jazz bar in New York, for example. And then another one was we did this train experience, which is like the Oron Express, and I think there's forty.
01:16:30
Speaker 2: Two people that enjoyed that.
01:16:32
Speaker 18: We went through six different countries, with six different courses paired to every country you went through, you'd never know that you're on a large ship. And then at the opposite end of the scale, I'm about to head to Croatia and there's thirty six people on the ship that.
01:16:44
Speaker 2: I'm on just completely different. So yeah, literally that was the scale, right, amazing?
01:16:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven thousand, Yeah, that's millicent and a half. Well it's a village, right, It's a villaging, isn't it.
01:16:54
Speaker 18: But I think there's over thirty different restaurants on board.
01:16:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You know, choice to go wherever you want to go.
01:17:01
Speaker 3: You've got like your Rundel mall of restaurants and shopping, and then you've got your festival theater of shows and.
01:17:07
Speaker 18: Do you want to tee in tonight or do you want a burger or you know, the choices, and then you know, you get these Broadway soul shows that are just absolutely fabulous.
01:17:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:17:15
Speaker 3: So many artists I speak to now you look in their CV and they've all been on ships at some stage, like they've all done that. So well we're checking out. So there you go. There's a challenge for you. Go and see Peter or any of the team at phil Hop and Travel going with that question, I don't like cruising or there's no cruise for me, and see what the answer comes up. I bet there is one of the cruises that you might like to enjoy. As we were talking about brand recognition and love for Kunard. Commercial sales manager Australia New Zealand is Alex Oakley, joins us this afternoon. Welcome Alex.
01:17:44
Speaker 19: Oh, good afternoon gents.
01:17:46
Speaker 2: Hey Alex, Yeah, good mate, how are you?
01:17:49
Speaker 19: Oh like I've been better? To be honest, Peter, I've been better. I thought it would be a good idea to accept the last minute call up to the city to surf run in Sydney on Sunday. And I haven't run for about a year and I can barely walk two days later Alan around the office. But apart from that, I'm pretty good.
01:18:05
Speaker 2: Come on, I thought you would have learned by that by now that that's no good for you.
01:18:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I'll ever learn cruise to recover there, Alex.
01:18:14
Speaker 19: I do indeed, indeed, Alex.
01:18:17
Speaker 18: We we shared a great experience and what was it eight months ago on quinnin Yes.
01:18:23
Speaker 19: Yeah, it would have been yeah, yeah, the spiritual home of Liverpool and up in Edinburgh.
01:18:27
Speaker 2: Heal, fantastic, health, fantastic that was.
01:18:30
Speaker 18: Look, there'll be some listeners out there that that probably don't know a lot about Kunhar, would you, you know, maybe just give us a bit.
01:18:36
Speaker 2: Of a summary on why you're a bit different and a little bit about Cunard.
01:18:41
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean in terms of Cunard, we've got such a rich history and heritage as one hundred and eighty five years worth of history of the brand. I think for anyone that's maybe never sailed before, if you said picture of a cruise ship, what they'd happened in their head is probably an image of one of our ships, you know, with the red and black funnels and so I think they're pretty iconic. And we certainly lean into that history and heritage that we've got with the brand there and we'll be well known for you know, there's things like the uniforms on board for the bell hops that wear the bright red uniform and carrier luggets and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's a pretty pretty iconic brand I think for guests that haven't settled with us before.
01:19:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt it's it's a very unique brand.
01:19:24
Speaker 18: I don't think there's another cruise brand anything like Cuonard, and I guess where that leads is once you've cruised on Coonard and most people just love that experience, you'd have to have a massive repeat factor, and the loyalty to your brand is exceptional.
01:19:40
Speaker 19: Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean I suppose we're really lucky in a way because I mean there's so many good cruise lines these days, right, and everyone offers tremendous service and does really good food and restaurants and on board. But something that you can't really buy is that kind of history and heritage, right, which you know, we've we've been practicing for such a long time that you can just feel.
01:20:01
Speaker 6: It when you step on board.
01:20:02
Speaker 19: It's embedded into the walls. I think when you walk around the ship, isn't it big?
01:20:06
Speaker 3: And there's a great Australian affinity with the brand too, isn't it? Is that the same I imagine all around the world Alex Yeah, definitely.
01:20:13
Speaker 19: Well, I mean there's a lot of you know, British ex paths and descendants and ex pats that live in Australia now, and you know, we'd have that kind of affinity with maybe their grandparents or past generations that came over from the UK. So I think it really ties into that kind of factor, and we do invest a lot in this region as well. We've got three of our four Queens of Sailing to them from Sydney across twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, So we've got world voyage sectors that will be leaving here in Touch in Japan, Asia, the America's, Europe, even South Africa. So yeah, we've got a really tangible commitment to Australian New Zoo and guests and it just shows with the amount of affinity we've built with the travelers too.
01:20:54
Speaker 18: I think that's fantastic when the ships do come down to Australia, really is an opportunity to show the brand for people to jump on, you know, maybe a shorter sector, a bit closer to home. One of the things that really got me though was that that the history and you mentioned it before, and when we were lucky enough to be up in Liverpool, you know, we went to the library slash of the museum where you know, where the history was all on show for Kunard there it really blew me away and it does give you that sense of history and sense of heritage.
01:21:24
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's incredible, isn't it. I mean, certainly for anyone that might find themselves in Liverpool, either on one of our ships or you know, just on their own holiday, I'd definitely recommend trying to get along to the Qunard Museum or the archives if you can. I mean, it's quite incredible that we were looking at the dinner menu from nineteen oh.
01:21:41
Speaker 2: Seven and some of the passages that were on board as well.
01:21:47
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely amazing. You know, we've got such a history of royals and celebrities and entertainers and artists. Yeah, we've really leaned into that cultural factor over the years.
01:21:57
Speaker 18: I think, And now there's a historic moment coming up in twenty twenty eight, Alex, would you like to tell us about that?
01:22:05
Speaker 19: Yes, indeed. So for the very first time in qune Art's history, we're going to have all four of our ships, so Queen Mary two, Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Anne, and they're going to be meeting together in our spiritual home of Liverpool. So it's going to be a bit of Before Queen's Rendezvous celebration. That's the genuine first for us, which is quite remarkable, just even the logistics getting four ships into the River Mersey there, it's going to be exceptional to watch. So very excited for that one.
01:22:33
Speaker 18: That'll be a world class event, you know, I just imagine being against just watching.
01:22:38
Speaker 2: That happen, it'll be incredible.
01:22:40
Speaker 18: But you've also got some voyages where you can really kind of bounce from from one ship to another during that period.
01:22:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we.
01:22:49
Speaker 19: Did have the big one that went on sale in May with our program release was what we call a Queen's Queen or a multi Queen package, which was all four of them. So that was with the Queen Nan Voyage joining the Liverpool celebration there. Now that package unfortunately heard how tremendously popular.
01:23:08
Speaker 18: That's been early. So we're talking about how sometimes you have to book really early with it. In that case, you had to book three years out.
01:23:19
Speaker 16: Yeah exactly.
01:23:19
Speaker 19: I mean, it's just been incredible the response that we've had for that. But I mean it's not the only the only multi Queen's package that we have available. So we have you know, lots of your your team PhD or Phil Hoffman Traveler. Should they we'll be able to tell the guests about it, Pete. But we've actually got the Queen's Queen favor offering market right now. So on select Voyage, there's a voyages there's a temptence saving when you book you know two or more together, So best to speak to your local Phil Hoffman travel agent and there's an advisor on that one because it's only available through travel agents right now as well.
01:23:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic. So that's a great saving.
01:23:54
Speaker 18: Now, as far as ship's been different, you know, the Kunard line, you still to a certain send a bit of a like it's a class ship now, depending on the cabin that you purchase, it may depend on what restaurant you dine in.
01:24:10
Speaker 2: Is that that's still the case?
01:24:13
Speaker 7: Yeah, still the case.
01:24:13
Speaker 19: So you know, we have our Grill Suite, which is the epistome of sort of luxury. So we like to think so Queen's Gril guests will have the Queen's Could restaurant that they can dine in, and then we have Princess Grill Kiss that can dine in the Princess Girl restaurant and Brittannia Club as well. So yeah, lots of different options on board. But you know, I mean that's not the only.
01:24:35
Speaker 16: Restaurants that we've got.
01:24:35
Speaker 19: We have some fantastic options on board all of our ships. You know, even things like being dining where they change the dining concept every couple of weeks. I still maintain it's that when the ship's come down to Australia, it's the best curry that you can get in all of Australia. The Coriander thing going.
01:24:53
Speaker 2: I think you're right and I reckon I tried that. It was fantastic.
01:24:56
Speaker 18: That's but that's what I love about Counard is that you've brought that contemporary flavor on board. You've still you've got that point to heritage with the different restaurants that are linked to your cabin, but you've also got so much choice as well, so you've got a nice blend between the heritage and the contemporary.
01:25:19
Speaker 19: Yes, definitely, definitely would agree with that.
01:25:22
Speaker 2: Fantastic Well, Alex, thank you mate.
01:25:24
Speaker 18: It's great to have you on the radio today, and I think people learn a lot about Kernard is certainly one of our favorite cruise lines and some of the deals that we've got going at the moment. If you're often travel callers need to give us a buzz and we'll look after him.
01:25:39
Speaker 19: Yeah, guys, thank you so much for having me and I really appreciate it. And yeah, good often untill we your listeners as well and get yourselves done. And to Phil Hoffman Traveling and put your next cruise with us.
01:25:48
Speaker 3: Thanks Alex, appreciate your time with stuff.
01:25:50
Speaker 7: None thanks guys.
01:25:51
Speaker 3: Thank Commercial Sales Manager Australia and New Zealand Alex Oakley from Kernard. He is right in that when people have an idea in their mind, if they've seen movies and television shows of what cruising is, it's probably Kurnat.
01:26:04
Speaker 18: It is because it's they're a real cruise liner. Yes, they're built to move them around the oceans quickly. They're they're faster than most other ships that have been built. And when you're doing the trans Atlantic, the q M two and before that the Q two very famous in doing the Transatlantic between New York and Southampton. Yes, and that see can get a bit choppy, and so what these ships are designed for is to cut through those waves. So their hull was designed very different. So let's say the resort base ships that might be floating around the Mediterranean or the Caribbean. And so it is a different style of cruising as well, which is great. And it is a little more formal, you know, and people love that, you know, that's it's it's appointed to the past rather than people walking around, you know, in their t shirts and their their thongs and whatever it is. You know, they encourage you to dress up at nighttime. Still informal during the day and casual and comfortable, but at night time people dress up a little bit more and the gentleman might put a jacket on and the ladies a frock. And I think it's really nice.
01:27:09
Speaker 6: It is.
01:27:10
Speaker 3: It's a nod to the past, but it's in all the mod cons of the the President.
01:27:14
Speaker 2: It feels very special.
01:27:16
Speaker 18: I was when I was on there with Alex on Queen and eighteen months ago. What I did discover and I don't mind a little tipple of this, is they make their own gin. Yes, So there was these couple of lads we went and visited, visited their distillery and I.
01:27:30
Speaker 2: Think one was a Naisy and one was a Kiwi.
01:27:32
Speaker 18: And in conjunction with Kona, they now have the Queen Anne gin and the Queen and it was lovely.
01:27:40
Speaker 3: People have a great affinity to for the royal family, so anything related to that, yes, they'll be in. So I'm sure there's a lot of times that like to bounce around the queens.
01:27:47
Speaker 18: And the decors on board is very royal like it is beautiful, deep deep colors, so beautiful mahogany timber, and you've got reds and royal blues and it really is quite striking when you get on board. And as Alex was saying, all the staff dress up beautifully. You know that the bell hops and things like that.
01:28:05
Speaker 3: So starting a koona chip, ask about at Phil Hoffman Travel before we find out the events that you got on interesting text from Matt on our line. He says, Peter, there are companies, are there companies that charge a small to no single supplement? And if so, who I'm doing a Queen Mary Crossing Caribbean trip over Christmas. Couldn't get a rare single room, paid the double for the room, and I get it, I'm taking up the double capacity. But I'd honestly consider other companies that don't charge or charge very little single supplement. That's Matt from o'halla and hill hit here.
01:28:39
Speaker 2: There's a lot a single statement, you do, Matt, was it? Matt yep? Yeah?
01:28:43
Speaker 18: So Matt, great, great question mate, And yes absolutely there are cruise lines now that are building so that on some of their new builds now solo cabins, so they're a little smaller they're probably only about three quarters of the size they come with, not a single bed, but like a decent sized bed. You know, it's a bit bigger than a single bed, and the charge is much more competitive than charging double, which is traditionally what happens to unfortunately.
01:29:10
Speaker 2: The solo traveler.
01:29:11
Speaker 18: So there's a couple of brands out there, and all you need to do is give us a buzz and fantastic that you're doing the kunard and you're going to love that experience.
01:29:18
Speaker 2: I understand that you've had to pay more for it, but yeah, for sure, give us a buzz.
01:29:24
Speaker 18: And even with kuon ad every now and then, if you book early enough, they have deals on for solo travelers where you won't be paying double supplement.
01:29:31
Speaker 3: Well the rare single room as we heard, like if cruisers are out already for twenty eight. Yeah, you're gonna have to get in early, don't.
01:29:39
Speaker 18: Yeah, we're selling well into twenty eight now, which is incredible.
01:29:42
Speaker 2: So yeah, two and a half three years ahead.
01:29:44
Speaker 3: Last week in your absence, when Darien was here, we were talking about Wendy Wu. Oh you've got some big Wendy Wu events coming up very shortly where people can discover the Wonders of Asia.
01:29:54
Speaker 18: Yeah, so just before I go through the dates on that, Wendy Wo do specialize all through the orients. Southeast Asia. An area where we're selling a huge amount of Wendy Woo now is Japan, also into Korea. South Korea is becoming really popular, and I think South Korea Leith is becoming popular because Japan has been just over the last five years, everyone's been going to Japan.
01:30:18
Speaker 2: They want that.
01:30:19
Speaker 18: Similar experience, but they want to go somewhere new, and South Korea is offering that very very unique and its food, it's culture, etc. Very safe, very clean like Japan. So people going Yep, that's a bit of a new destination for us. But of course we'll be promoting Japan, we'll be promoting China. A lot of people heading back to China.
01:30:39
Speaker 2: Now.
01:30:39
Speaker 18: I just had it made up there and he sent me a photo from the Great Wall Tenement Square, So Vietnam.
01:30:46
Speaker 2: All these places that are so popular at.
01:30:48
Speaker 18: The moment Wendy Wo specialize in. So we've got these presentations all throughout the state. So from Monday to twenty fourth of August, all the way through to Thursday twenty seven August we're in Walkerville where Everston we're Glenelgam also at semipols. Just jump onto PhD dot com and to be able to come to one of those evening.
01:31:05
Speaker 3: Sessions and they are free, but best to put your name down you get a rough idea.
01:31:10
Speaker 18: Yes, well, some of them sell out, so we have limited capacity at some of them. Look, you know, down our head office we can take you know, one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty, but you know the function center at Everson's you know maybe thirty or forty people.
01:31:21
Speaker 2: So you do need to book for these absolutely.
01:31:23
Speaker 3: And then mid September. We talked about Silversea last year when you know the luxury I think the prize was Silversea, was it? So you've got one of those couple of a couple of events coming up on the Wednesday too, West Beach.
01:31:34
Speaker 2: Yes we have.
01:31:35
Speaker 18: So Silversea is ultra luxury, the smaller to mid size ships and fantastic. I did a cruiz Lisbon to Barcelona a couple of years on this and you want for nothing, you want caveat, you want French champagne.
01:31:47
Speaker 2: It's all yours.
01:31:47
Speaker 18: So mid September for these ones so we've got Wednesday, the sixteenth September down at West Beach and we'll have the I'm pretty sure we've got the captain, one of the captains coming down, yeah, which would be great. So we've got a day and an evening session leads. So so for those people that want to rug up at nighttime, you can come down at ten o'clock in the morning.
01:32:07
Speaker 3: Bookmarket on your Internet Explorer. Just bookmark PHT dot com dot you always have a look at what the events are coming up and then you can work out which one you want to go to. Wendy Woo through the late part of August and then mid September with silver S. Great to see you, Thanks, thank you for coming in. We'll see you again next week. Peter Williams from Phil Hopman, travel Managing Director and CEO. Remember there is a PhD glenelg Norwood, Modbury Hyde Park, Semiphore Sterling, Victor Barossa Gawler and of course the corporate team doing some great work PhD dot com. You and if you've got a question about travel now we'll take it off air for the next half hour. Eight double two three, double O, double.
01:32:42
Speaker 1: Five five double A afternoons with Lee Forrest.
01:32:47
Speaker 3: Six minutes after three. Thank you for tuning in on this Tuesday afternoon. If you'd like to join us at any stage, you're welcome to eight double two three double O, double O. Kim Wilde is going to join us this hour. Legendary English pop singer from the eighties and the nineties. She'll be here in Adelaide later this year. We'll speak to her, and if you want to tune into our live stream, Facebook and YouTube, you can do that now too, because you were in for a treat and a thrill. Because our next guest is joining us all the way from Greece. He is an internationally recognized artist. He's a contemporary Greek mural artist. His work name, if you like, or his artist's name, is Schizophrenis. His real name is Costas, and he joins us. Lovely to see you. Welcome to Australia and to Adelaide. Thank you for being here.
01:33:31
Speaker 20: I'm so grateful to be here. Nice to fangel. Other lady is amazed, amazing, bless Yeah.
01:33:37
Speaker 3: You and I have just been talking off air. You haven't been here long, just a bit of time now doing the.
01:33:43
Speaker 20: Week twenty five days yet yeah, I'm going to be like four six days more and then I'm leaving back. I'm going back to Greece.
01:33:49
Speaker 3: I get the sense you're coming back to see us though. You love this place because I like it here. Yes, So let's talk about how we got you, How we got this internationally acclaimed artist in to Adaly.
01:34:00
Speaker 20: Well back in May, I've met with one of the founders of Equals Foundation that you have here. She comes from my town, Kalamata yep. Kalamata is the capital of southwest the region of Messinia and Greece in the Peloponnese. So we've met almost by accident, because she was watching my art in the walls around the city and all over Greece, because I have pained all over Greece. So when she explained to me who she was, where she comes from, and what she has made in her life and what is her heritage, I was inspired, and just by a joke, I said, you know, I would like to paint something, you know, because of that. You know, we have the same morals, the same principles. So I like to see that you have the willpower to impact, you know, things around you positively. So she said, you know, I can arrange that. So no for me, it's like if you can do it, come.
01:34:54
Speaker 3: So you made an Australian in Grace who sees your work in vach you too, Adelaide, Yes, and here you are. Yes, it's the stuff of movies. Is it nice? Yeah, it's excellent, so we should say too. Equals is an independent South Australian tertiary education provider that provides and promotes human potential through education. It's all about equity and access in human rights, meaningful community initiatives and partnerships. So the collaboration between yourself and Equals And now we get to enjoy your incredible artwork here in the city in Curry Street on the building there. So you've been here for four weeks almost yes. Yeah, So if people are watching our live stream on Facebook and YouTube, we can see some of your work here too. It's just exceptional. So do you want to talk us through the art that we are seeing here and that people will be able to see if they're not able to watch their live stream now when they're driving through Curry Street and you're working on the wall.
01:35:51
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:35:53
Speaker 20: One of the first things that came to my mind when they explain to me what Equals stands for and what they're doing here is that we should I should paint something about how people collaborate, the coexist. Yes, and through knowledge they elevate themselves. So humanity can be you know, positively be go higher through shared knowledge. But you need foundation institutions not to put you on rails to do that.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:36:21
Speaker 20: So when I came here, so I had the rough you know, the rough idea of what I want to do and want to paint. But I just wanted to wait to come here, go walk the streets of Adelaide, go inside the corridors of Equals, meeting the real students, the real faces, you know, the ones who participate in everyday life. Yes, and then perfect my designs and start working.
01:36:42
Speaker 2: This is what I did.
01:36:43
Speaker 20: So I had lots of outline, some sketches, but I implement a lot of things and took out other things that I plan to do in order to change some stuff.
01:36:53
Speaker 3: Is it easy because of pining on the side of a wall. You would have noticed around that life we've got so much right straight art. It's become really popular, I guess in the last ten fifteen years perhaps, But for us that have zero artistic ability. It's hard enough to pay it on a little canvas in front of you, let alone on the side of the wall. What's the process from sketch to building?
01:37:15
Speaker 20: Well, for me, I would sound like I'm exaggerating, but because I'm a self taught artist. I'm a farmer olive oil producer in southwest Greece, I have learned to do it by myself. So for me, as it goes bigger and bigger, it becomes way more easier for me. Right, So I can paint whatever I like. You give me five store building, I can do it in three days, you know, yep?
01:37:38
Speaker 2: So do you do?
01:37:39
Speaker 3: You sketch it out? You know?
01:37:41
Speaker 20: I am the probably one of the few that because I'm a self taught and I have a learned specific procedure, right, I don't, you know, put marks on the wall or something. I just take my Spiry card.
01:37:51
Speaker 3: And just do it. Wow, you do a freehand?
01:37:54
Speaker 2: Yes?
01:37:54
Speaker 3: Always fret and then we saw you say you're on the cherry picker too, so you're able to elevate yourself and then you can wow, well done, because I guess it would all be about scaling too. Do you have to get up paint a little bit, hop down, walk back and say sort.
01:38:08
Speaker 20: Of because we had the seizel lifts and not the boom lifts. The boom lift has the opportunity to take you back and forth, but yere, because there is an alley, we cannot go back and forth.
01:38:19
Speaker 1: So we.
01:38:21
Speaker 20: Chose to have the seazilor lifts. We are more stable. Yes, so I had to put my all my power to imagine how it's gonna be.
01:38:29
Speaker 3: So yeah, I succeeded. I think, well, absolutely, we're enjoying the videos. There are people that aren't watching, and now they can go back and have Facebook and YouTube and have a look at those. You've even come in dressed in paints, so it literally comes straight.
01:38:41
Speaker 20: I just finished my third mural in the middle of section of the building three story yep, which is the last one, and it's like I have half a day of work maybe tomorrow to finish some ground level things.
01:38:54
Speaker 3: What do you hope people get from you? Are like, again, I love I don't have an artistic bunny my body, but I appreciate it. You can appreciate the work and effort and the meanings behind it. I like to walk the streets of Adelaide, and there are some really great like Rundle Street has some great artwork through the city down some of the Alley's prospect Roading North Adelaide has some great street work. So what do you hope as the artist for us viewers and people that are Adelaidians to enjoy about it?
01:39:19
Speaker 20: First of all, I would like the work, you know, the passenger to understand that art is not just decorating walls. They always are always carries a message. Yes, if you don't get it now, you will get it eventually. So it's not about just putting color. Even so, even if you just put color in the wall, there's a motivation behind.
01:39:40
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:39:40
Speaker 20: So art always, you know, means something.
01:39:44
Speaker 3: Do you consider it a gift to the city because it is, I would think inadvertently through yourself and through equals.
01:39:50
Speaker 20: Because I have taken so much from the city of Adelaide. There's an environment that people who brought me here, the everyday people that have met, because everybody's very friendly, it's very helpful.
01:40:00
Speaker 8: M hm.
01:40:01
Speaker 20: I don't know if it's it is a gift, but also it is a gift for me as an experience. So Adelaide gives me back the whole experience. Have you the first time in Adelite, first time in Australia, Yes, really, the first time overseas, you know, I have done small trips around Europe and Greece, not that far. So what do you think as a great man here for the very first time? What are your impressions of Adelie?
01:40:21
Speaker 3: I love it.
01:40:22
Speaker 20: If I could stay more, I would and if I could stay come back over and over and over again, I pray for you. Know, well, let's hype. I love it here. You have great architecture, even the street art that exists here before me. It's very well thought felt. All the things here I have seen there is a great architecture, know everything. So how can I say somebody thinks very well before does something.
01:40:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, you plan everything very well. No, we do, indeed absolutely And don't you think it adds to the city like I think again, you get a little bit of out and a little bit of news.
01:40:57
Speaker 20: And exactly in terms of the buildings, the architect I see, you know, they're very harmonious. You know, how can I say much up of the old buildings and the new buildings. Yep, that is a you know, you see respectful people there. You know your good intentions. Yes, yes, I love that.
01:41:11
Speaker 3: My very special guest is International Artists Schizophrenis aka.
01:41:16
Speaker 2: Costas cost Us.
01:41:17
Speaker 3: Yes, who has painted on the side of the Equals building. This is in Curry Street, South Australian owned and operated business thirty five years. Equals has been around and as I say, it's all about tertiary education and human rights and equity and access. Like an incredible organized and organization here at ninety five Curry Street in the city. So this is your first ever visit, first ever artwork. But let's hope we can see see more. How do you go from an olive oil farmer to a renowned and acclaimed artist? Did you were you dabbling in that while you were farming and then thought, na this, I want to do this.
01:41:53
Speaker 20: My village is located very close to the famous seat of Sparta. Oh it's like half an hour from Sparta.
01:41:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:42:00
Speaker 20: My village on a valley. So as a small child I had I didn't have the opportunity no to leave my village. There was no internet back then, no other children to play, so I had to stay eight nine ten hours a day from six years old, just sketching so I can kill some time right with a money way, you know. So that made me you know, and the comic books. Became a first teacher, you know, spider Man, Batman. I used to buy comic books and observing, and I was teaching myself how to sketch. So but I have never know buy a spray can and do something. In the age of twenty three, a bit old, just by accident again, you know, somebody asked me would you paint something in this world in Calama?
01:42:41
Speaker 3: I said why not?
01:42:42
Speaker 20: I was so thrilled by the procedure and how people were captivated by color in large scale images. So I said I would go for it, just as I said to come here, you know, just go for you know, out of your comfort zone now or never.
01:42:54
Speaker 2: So I did it.
01:42:55
Speaker 20: So that's why I have never been in an art school. No, only by myself. Wow done, Yes, what a life. That's amazing.
01:43:02
Speaker 3: It's an amazing trajectory in sort of one of those things that people can take on board, that message of like living your dreams, doing what you want to do and live your dreams. Yes, yes, yes, amazing. Before we let you go, you know, we were just doing a travel segment before you came in tell us a little bit about your part of the world. There in great where you're from, I.
01:43:20
Speaker 20: Am from the region is called Messinia. It's southwest Greece. Yes, the capital is Kalamata. The town where I've met Katina Olives. Kalamata Olives, yes, exactly, the famous Calamata Olives. My villa. It's twenty five minutes southeast of Kalamata, close to Sparta. Right there is your between Kalamata and Sparta. It's called money has the best Kalamata Olives right as a variety.
01:43:45
Speaker 7: Yep.
01:43:45
Speaker 20: This is what I do. My family's work is having olive groves. This is what I'm doing from a small child, working in the olive groves. And but the last years I find myself, you know, more often to go around Greece because I ask the commission works excellent from from one point of Brits or the other.
01:44:04
Speaker 10: Yep.
01:44:04
Speaker 20: And in Europe, some parts of Europe.
01:44:06
Speaker 3: Do you know about the great connection that Australia and Greece has, Like we have a large Greek contingent here in Adelaide.
01:44:12
Speaker 20: I have made a lot of Greeks. Yeah, and they are very friends, very helpful. But also recently found out that the city of Adelaide is a part of sit of Adelaide's sister city with Kalamata.
01:44:22
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, so we've got a great Greek tradition here right across not only Adelaide, but right across Australia as well. I have visited Greece once, costas on my Oh we went to Athens on our honeymoon. I got to say, the best of laki I've ever had in my life. I'm going to go back just for the food, really very spoiled. Your food was amazing, but the history, you know, we and I mentioned to your fair at the bottom of the Acropolis, at the parthen On. There it was the greatest banana waffles I've ever had in my life.
01:44:52
Speaker 17: Really.
01:44:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's paradise there is it. Not beautiful in summer, gets a little hot sometimes, but beautiful part of the world. I can understand your no, we said, I agree to my eyes, and you're saying adlaie three yours like you're taken by.
01:45:05
Speaker 20: Even the food here, your food here, I like it a lot. Yes, the beer you know you have this sausage or nitchel, yes, yes, you don't have those in Greece. You don't have we have it, but yeah, no, I don't know why here I like it more.
01:45:18
Speaker 3: You know we have a good friend of the show from Kalimnos Pastries. Yeah, yes, so George there, he's a lovely he's trying to educate us on the food of grace, like all your beautiful desserts.
01:45:30
Speaker 20: And your library of taste is your market? Yes, amazing, lucky, you are so like you to have this kind of market. No, I went, I have been there ten times.
01:45:40
Speaker 2: I love it.
01:45:40
Speaker 3: You gotta take palma back. You're an adopted self, as say, you've only beeny for I cast.
01:45:44
Speaker 20: Myself and now led the last days not to respond with a nose ending. Have you run around the Torrents? That's a very like because I'm a runner. I am here like about twenty five days. I have run already thirteen or fourteen times.
01:45:57
Speaker 6: I have.
01:45:57
Speaker 20: I bought a lot of running shoes from here. So my bag ads one close. Now you're ticking every have you done, lofty? You gotta climb out Lofty. I went to Mount Loft because I used to be also a cyclist. Yeah yes, and everybody now it's hating me in Greece because I came to the most you know, cyclist town.
01:46:15
Speaker 3: Well see now I'm going to call you contemporary Greek slash Australian mural. You're ticking every box. You're one of us. Well, you gotta make sure you come back and visit us.
01:46:23
Speaker 20: So yes, yes, congratulations, very grateful to be here.
01:46:27
Speaker 3: Well, it's lovely to have you here. But I love the idea that an artist from across the world, just by a chance meeting, Yes, all of a sudden comes to our country, to our city and now shares your art.
01:46:37
Speaker 20: Well that brought me here, you told me before I come down. A coincidence, trust me. Know this is the biggest lesson you know. Maybe your faith brought you here, you know, because everything has thatned out wonderful.
01:46:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should think contain imagine if she didn't like your art, you wouldn't be here. But she loved your art. So yes, she's a lovely lady. It's full circle. Yes, lovely to meet you. Congratulations very much. So the artwork will be finished win When can we see.
01:47:01
Speaker 20: To finish?
01:47:02
Speaker 3: Almost done?
01:47:02
Speaker 20: Yes, someone has done yest.
01:47:04
Speaker 3: All right, so we will be able to see that. At ninety five Curry Street in the city, first ever artwork for schizophrenics aka Costas and you can see that folks on the side of the Equals building which is in Curry Street, so you'll be able to do that. Lovely to meet you. Welcome to Australian Congratulations. That's going to beautify our CBD even more your artwork, so we look forward to that. Now we know the meaning behind it because sometimes you drive or you walk through and you go, that's impressive. I wonder who did that? You never find out. Now we know, so thank you, enjoy your stay, hope we get to see you again. A hoops schizophrenis costUS my.
01:47:40
Speaker 1: Guest five double A Afternoons with Leeth Forest.
01:47:44
Speaker 3: Twenty five minutes after three, Matthew Bantelli sent me a text. During the chat with Costas, we're going to get Matthew. We've got to do an exchange, get pants to go to Greece. And he can paint, he can do stick figures. He's not quite as good as Costas is, but I love the fact that there is a a strange random meeting overseas and yet here he is now beautifying our city with street art, which is excellent. And as I say, if you're a fan of street art, it's actually a fun experience just to walk around the city, have a look down some of the little lane ways. There's plenty right through Rundle Street and the East end of Adelaide's my daughter and I enjoy doing this is like a little exercise at times. There's some beautiful ones down O'Connell Street in North Adelaide. Prospect Roads got some great street art through there. So here's another one for us to check out when Costa finishes in the next couple of days. Ninety five Curry Street in the city on the Equals building. That will be fun. Isn't a funny how the world can work. One minute you're a olive farmer and next minute you're painting walls in Australia. You just never know. Rita from Campbelltown on the Tech said, least regarding these shops, signages in Sydney not being written in English. Something I noticed in Adelaide the other day. I've seen two car registrations written only in Asian language. Nothing in English except for a couple of numbers. Can you speak to motor registration about it? Why is this allowed in the first place? It's interesting reta. I did not know that. So you're telling me that you can get license plates that aren't in English on our cars. All right, we will find out. Thanks so much, Marion says, I want to thank the dear friends at John Foolbrook's office. I didn't receive my enlarge print of the census. I believe the Holy Spirit wanted me to ring them, and they did my census online for me. No more worries. Hallelujah, God bless them and bless you. Good on you, Marian, thank you for that. We did endeavor to get someone from the Census organization on to talk about the census. They were a little busy, unfortunately, so we weren't able to do that. But hopefully everyone's been able to do their census get what they need. A lot of people have had some issues without Throughout the last couple of weeks, Mel's got headlines for us. At three point thirty, Kim Wilde, superstar of the eighties and the nineties, will join us. Just after that. You'll be able to see Kim on our Facebook and YouTube live stream. Just a reminder and to repeat and Mel will give you more in the headlines in just one second. But the Reserve Bank have opted to hold the cash rate. That's despite the cooling economy, Reserve Bank unanimously held fire today they've kept the bench cash rate at four point three five percent. So basically, if you've got a seven hundred and thirty four thousand dollars loan, you're getting basically three hundred and seventy dollars in monthly payments for assie's who've already been hit hard by the cost of living or was interesting to see that Koshi had some thoughts on this. He said the RBA hold is the right decision, but he did warn that Australian's already going into the bunker, So we'll see what happens from a financial point of view. Coming up. Just before we get to headlines. If I played you this song, would you know who the artist is? I'm sure you've all heard it. The song is called Tom's Diner. The person is Suzanne Vega and you can see Suzanne because she's coming to Adelaide on the twenty fourth of September at the Magnificent Theberdon Theater. It is Suzann Vega's Flying with Angels tour. If you would like to go show kicks off just after seven o'clock. First caller through eight double two three double ow, double five. We would love to send you off to see Suzanne Vega. She'll do Tom's Diner, she'll do Lucas, she'll do all of her hits. It will be a great night out. First caller through eight double two three double low double five. Headlines with Mel Next.
01:51:46
Speaker 1: Five double A afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:51:49
Speaker 3: So I saw that both the Crows and Porter over eighty thousand. Now, yeah, it's amazing, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: I am an AFLW member well known for Port. I decided to get on board. I thought it was really amazing that the girls were allowed to play footy. Yeah, and I'm a Port supporter, so once they entered that competition, I decided to put my money where my mouth is and support them. So I'm a foundation member.
01:52:12
Speaker 3: Well done. Well, it's great too. In a cost of living crisis, you think, you know some people have got to cut back. Yeah, footy fans want to give back to their club and be invested, try and get some tickets. Well done.
01:52:22
Speaker 13: Yeah, and maybe one day we'll win a premiership. We haven't haven't done that yet.
01:52:26
Speaker 3: A little while well, they had the double header on Sunday, the Carlton Saint Kilda game before the Boys played later that night.
01:52:32
Speaker 13: So we did really well. Not last year, the year before, so hopefully, you know, hopefully this year, maybe maybe you.
01:52:39
Speaker 3: Might know the answer to this or have a thought on this. We were talking about the text message regarding the plates not being in English. Brett says, special Japanese car limited edition plates, perfectly legal. Tom says, they're international diplomatic plates.
01:52:56
Speaker 13: Special people have special plates.
01:52:57
Speaker 3: I've not seen. Have you ever seen an an international language license plate in Adelaide?
01:53:03
Speaker 13: No, But I remember, like going back to the late eighties nineties, every other car seemed to have a personalized number plate. There were so many of them. You know, you'd be driving around.
01:53:12
Speaker 3: And Chaz drive part Chaz.
01:53:15
Speaker 13: Fifty five or you know, live Dog or something. But maybe it's too expensive now to just register your car, so you're not going to actually go the whole hold and personalize it as well.
01:53:25
Speaker 3: I did think of you though today because I saw the license plate MJ. And I thought, oh, they got in. Because again, you know, if you're a Jordan fan or a Jackson fan, or an MJ. Gal fan, on social media, got to get in early. For those you don't see as many personalized plates anymore, I don't think.
01:53:41
Speaker 13: And remember, you could have them all in different colors as well, you know, you could have Barbie pink, or you could have all sorts of things. But maybe that ship has sailed. Maybe people spend their money in other ways now on their cars.
01:53:52
Speaker 3: I also think people know your name, so all of a sudden they yelling out at you because they're reading your license plate.
01:53:57
Speaker 2: Game.
01:53:57
Speaker 13: Some of them were so embarrassing. I mean, I remember, I understand if it's your business, you know, and you've got five double A one on the five double a car, Well that makes sense. But some of them were a little bit you know, sort of I think, geez, I wouldn't drive around with you know, I'm hot seventy five on my.
01:54:14
Speaker 3: We had a guy in Mellicent hand on hard I swear his license plate was nuts O two and that was his nickname Nuts because he just drove around. We had another one who was the Bandit, so they had like a bandit yeah license plate. Yeah, but then everyone just yells it out as you drive past. So you can't go incognito. You can't do something wrong on the roads because everyone goes ah nuts are speeding again, So it's probably an easy way for police to keep.
01:54:42
Speaker 13: It high on you that I said, I don't know what my red Joe is?
01:54:47
Speaker 2: Do you know?
01:54:48
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you know.
01:54:49
Speaker 13: I had to put it into a machine the other day when I parked in a certain place and I had to go back to my car and write it down. I had no idea what my own registration was.
01:54:59
Speaker 3: I do it where you to those where you take your tickets for the car? You know, you park on War Memorial and you've got to punch it into the thing. I'm the same. I got to take a photo of my car because I have no idea what it is.
01:55:11
Speaker 13: It's like mobile phone numbers these days. You don't used to know your friend's best number off by heart. But you don't know that anymore because you just hit a button. But didn't know what my own registration was.
01:55:20
Speaker 3: Maybe we need to come up with like a nut so too, Mel, that we can remember.
01:55:24
Speaker 13: Leaf door Allow.
01:55:26
Speaker 2: I'm not going left door.
01:55:27
Speaker 3: Mel, Thank you. Twenty four to four. Kim Wild's going to join us next.
01:55:32
Speaker 1: Five double a afternoons with Leaf Forest.
01:55:35
Speaker 2: What a thrill. This is well.
01:55:38
Speaker 3: They describe her as a UK pop icon, but I'm going to call her a global of icon. Kim Wild, the Great Kim Wild is coming back to Australia, coming back to Adelaide twenty fourth of November. At the gov She joins me for the closer to her. Lovely to see you, Kim, thank you for coming back to see us.
01:55:55
Speaker 21: Love it Leth can't wait to get back to us.
01:55:58
Speaker 3: You're more than just UK pop. I mean you were global. You're loved all parts of the world.
01:56:05
Speaker 21: Yes, I was. I like the word global. I like that word universally even might be love.
01:56:16
Speaker 3: Was there any part of the globe you didn't dominate with your music? Was there any part that you found it hard to break into where everyone loved the sound of Kim Wild?
01:56:24
Speaker 21: I think probably.
01:56:25
Speaker 22: Although we had a number one with You Keep Me Hanging On in America, the rest of my career didn't really translate over there, possibly because I just didn't spend very much or any hardly any time there. But you know, there's plenty of artists who from the UK had huge careers there.
01:56:45
Speaker 21: I'm just not one of them.
01:56:47
Speaker 3: Lee, I'm not sure about that and you think of kids in America one of the all time great songs too, how can they not embrace that? That's a banger.
01:56:54
Speaker 22: They did embrace that, and they embraced you know, like I say, you keep me hanging on with number one there. But you know, Leith, you know, I live in the UK and my career has predominantly been on this side of the pond, and I've really, I really appreciate that because that's you know, for me, that's less travel less airtime, less travel time. And you know that all those beautiful European cities that I've been part of my life, Hamburg, Berlin, Paris, Oslo, you know, just incredible, you know, Zurich, Geneva.
01:57:28
Speaker 14: You know.
01:57:28
Speaker 21: So I'm very grateful.
01:57:29
Speaker 22: And now, of course my other favorite territory, Australia are yes.
01:57:35
Speaker 3: And I know it's a long flight for you, but it's worth it, isn't it. When you come across you get to see how much the fans love it.
01:57:42
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was, of course it is and it's going to be even easier this time because it's a direct flight to Perth.
01:57:51
Speaker 3: That's nice. That's always the killer, the stopover is the killer. It's a long flight, but there's that little two hours between Sydney and Adelaide or Sydney and Melbourn, and you're just.
01:58:00
Speaker 22: Like, right now you have to grapes off and then they start spraying that stuff in the air in the airplane and then you kind of have to have your stuff with you and you're half asleep, and so this is gonna be great. I'm just going to get on a plane landing path, get myself together for a few days. I'm staying with some friends and then my first show is in Perth on my birthday on November the eighteenth.
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Speaker 3: How nice is that? Well, I'm sure the good folk of Wa and Perth will look after you. We're thrilled to have you here on the twenty fourth, on the Tuesday night at the Magical Gove. It's interesting when you look at your career Kim, like thirty million plus albums, the most successful British female artist of the eighties. It's kind of it's kind of bonkers, isn't it, And you think, here we are forty years on. The music is as loved as ever. New generations are turned on to music and there's a real appeal to see you again and again and again.
01:58:54
Speaker 22: Well, yeah, I mean it's for me singing just it's more and more enjoyable. My voice seems to just get stronger and stronger. Physically, I think I'm as strong as I've ever been in my whole life.
01:59:11
Speaker 21: You know, I work very hard at at least.
01:59:13
Speaker 22: You know, I've got a personal trainer, and you know, I haven't drunk.
01:59:17
Speaker 21: Alcohol for about ten years.
01:59:20
Speaker 22: So I'm really very you know, I'm very dedicated to my career because it's it brings me so much joy, and we managed to bring so much joy to other people. It's a two way street.
01:59:34
Speaker 3: Well, you know, and last time you and I spoke, we talked about your gardening too and what that means to you. That's got to be good for your health, right You talk about that with people too, about what it does for your mental and physical health.
01:59:45
Speaker 21: Yeah.
01:59:45
Speaker 22: Absolutely, And you know I like to think that I'm a testament to that.
01:59:49
Speaker 21: Really.
01:59:51
Speaker 22: You know, I'm growing vegetables this year, not loads, but I'm growing some lots and lots of flowers.
01:59:58
Speaker 21: Look after my garden.
01:59:59
Speaker 22: It's every morning I go out and I walk in the grass to ground myself and I drink fresh herbal tea from my garden. I'm very connected to the natural world and it's been for the betterment of my health, both physical and mental.
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Speaker 3: Well you like that? Have you always been like that? Like when you were coming through and you had Global Smash. At the Global Smash, did you live the rock style lifestyle or did you see ahead of time, ahead of the curve? Right? If I take care of myself, I get longevity in this career.
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Speaker 22: Well, I didn't initially, you know, my twenties and thirties. I was the thing is, I worked so hard in my twenties that by the time I got to my thirties, I really kind of just let my hair down, and I got a bit excessive, if I'm honest with you, although I did it discreetly, but it was.
02:00:47
Speaker 21: A bit excessive.
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Speaker 22: And then when I sort of got into my fifties, you know, of course, I had twenty years of being quite excessive. And then when I got into my fifties, I started having conversations with myself about, you know, how how that won't work if I want a career, And and then I did started doing you know, being more proactive, you know, and in between all that. Of course, I was having fun, getting married, getting divorced, having children, going through life and the usual.
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Speaker 21: Chaos of of.
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Speaker 22: Of wonderful stuff and terrible stuff and uh, you know, just a whole bit wow. And here I am a survivor. I know lots of people who survived much much worse than I have. You know, our life's been very kind to me, but we all have our own path to walk, and being part of nature has been a huge It's been one of my great allies.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I look at the people who are touring Steel Kim, you know the likes of Sir Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen and Mick and Keith. You know, like if you the fact is selfishly for us, we want to keep seeing you. Whether it's every year, every couple of years, that's great. Is a fing Hopefully you get that enjoyment as a performer to still travel the world do it.
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Speaker 22: Oh yeah, no, I mean when we stand in front of audiences nowadays, there is so much joy from us and from and from the audience. It is just incredible, really incredible. It's it's beautiful and I'm so excited every time I step on stage. It doesn't matter where I am, but Australia, you know, it's just just kind of got a bit of a chunk of me that never wants to leave and can't ever wait to get back.
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Speaker 3: Well, we got that great connection I think the UK and US. Here in Australia you have some of the most infectious songs I think in the history of music. Do you ever find yourself randomly in a supermarket or walking around and one of your songs come on? Do you do you embrace that Kim Wild? Do you sing along with it? Or are you going, oh, this is a bit of this is my song?
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Speaker 2: Or you just rip in?
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Speaker 21: It depends what I'm looking like, leath.
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Speaker 22: You know, if I'm looking really pretty and I put some lipstick on and my eyebraws, then I might not mind being not If I go in without those things, I might just be a little bit more disagreet about who I am in a supermarket. So you know, invariably someone will come up with a cat with a phone and say can we do a selfie? So I've got to be ready for those selfies because you can't turn those things down. I do hear my music sometimes and on the radio and in supermarkets and it's a great always a great honor.
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Speaker 21: Was iway was considered it a great honor.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that would be the I've spoken to actors before and they say, if they're flicking on the TV in their movie or TV show ups up, they don't watch it. But I would think if you've released kids in America and keep me hanging on, if I can't have you Cambodia view from a bridge, man, I'd be singing along all the time.
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Speaker 22: Kim, Well, the thing is, I'm singing all the time anyway. I'm traveling constantly touring with my band. You know, we've just got back from Switzerland. We go to Germany next weekend. We've been in France and Denmark, and you know, we've been all over the place to share doing a lot of work and the UK of course. So I'm singing these songs all the time, So it's unlikely I'll want to be singing them well while I'm buying my.
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Speaker 21: Greek yoga.
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Speaker 3: It makes sense. The love affair continues. We're thrilled to have you come back and see us. So I think you and I spoke maybe a couple of years ago when you were here. We were thrilled to have you. Then we're even more thrilled that you're coming back now. So thank you for doing that for us. I know you could easily just say right, I'll rest up, you know, approaching Christmas time, feed on. But the fact that you're coming to see us and celebrate your birthday here is a joy.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 22: Yeah, absolutely, Oh my god, I've got my new it's another interview.
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Speaker 6: Go.
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Speaker 3: Kim Wilde is hearing November twenty fourth of November. It's a Tuesday night folks at the govern You can get all the details at David Roywilliams dot com or Metropolisturing dot com. Kim, I'll let you go. Lovely to see you. Thanks for coming to see us. Thank you.
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Speaker 21: Oh wait, stopped that, bye darlingly Thanks kids, Street Heart, Bye.
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Speaker 1: Bye five double A Afternoons with Leip Forest.
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Speaker 3: Portrait not too far away, s Roe t Ginev will speak to ROWI just before four o'clock. Find out what's on the big show. Andrew from Panong. Good day, Andrew know Andrew from Panong. He's dropped out. All right, we'll try and get to Andrew before we finish up. Julia said, Length, Love the interview with Debbie Gibson last week, Loving the interview with Kim Wild Today, love them both so Kim at an Eighties Extravaganza, Blinda Carlile, Human League, spend Out, Ballet Go West to name a few. Have I ever interviewed Belinda No?
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Speaker 2: Julia?
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Speaker 3: Sadly I haven't. So She's meant to be on the show a couple of times. Blinda Carlile, but her concerts in Adelaide have been canceled, so we haven't been able to get a hold of her unfortunately, but we would love to. She's one of the greats. And this one on the issue of the Japanese plate says Length. You'll see them on collectible Japanese cars like the dats and Toyota, performance cars like a Supra and this and GTR and I just saw here on the licensed registration website. The Madeline gave me two hundred and fifty dollars per year to get a license plate. Jan says, I saw a black BMW four drive that license plate read divorced, seen it many times around Adelaide. You'd be happy with that, wouldn't now? Thank you, Jan steven Rowe have you ever had a personalized license plate.
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Speaker 17: No, not into that, No neither.
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Speaker 3: You don't see it that often though, bit.
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Speaker 17: You know, look at me, look at me, look at me. I'm not into that sort of stuff.
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Speaker 3: You could have row What were your numbers of the Crows three thirty one?
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Speaker 17: I started at thirty one, ended up at three row thirty one.
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Speaker 3: Around and row thirty one. Although you know what kind of.
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Speaker 17: Want to draw attention to yourself, do you know?
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Speaker 3: Although, well, I remember the Crows boys when mobile phones first became really popular. They're able to get their footy numbers in their phone numbers.
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Speaker 17: Oh well that's that. That was good because that can remind Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Like Bunge's got a couple of twenty three.
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Speaker 17: Three, isn't there?
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Speaker 3: Which is kind of cool.
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Speaker 17: Hey, the Geelong waiver gate, if you like get order the ployees exploding, please.
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Speaker 3: Explain today waiting.
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Speaker 17: Well, Geelong had to report back to the AFL about it, but the AFFL Commission have appointed a King's Counsel to preside over the investigation if you like, and or sanction just to keep it at arm's distance. I think it's simple. The AFFUL Chairman of Commission, Craig Drummond was the then President of Geelong who is now the chair of the Commission. I think he just needs to simply stand down. It is a conflict of interest. That's why they bought in a third party King's Council and Parachute and Eddie mcguie. Now we'll be speaking to Eddie at five o'clock.
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Speaker 3: Wow, we might push chairman of the AFL. Well, you can't have the Chairman of the AFL at the brown Low or the All Australian and all of these with any kind of staying to his character, can you.
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Speaker 17: Well we're not We're not casting dispersions, but.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying if there is any doubt, well there is doubt. It is That's why you got They've got a.
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Speaker 17: Third party investigator in a King's Council, much respected apparently to preside over this.
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Speaker 3: But you don't want to lose faith in your governorship of course.
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Speaker 17: Well, corporate governance is massive, integrity is massive. The lens of this is awful that something has been tried to be swept under the carpet. There they're trying to say it's it's a misstep was the word that Steve Hawking used. This is more than.
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Speaker 3: A misstep administration eraror Now.
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Speaker 17: This was a non Victorian club.
02:08:38
Speaker 3: Oh god, what about that Jenny hart Crow's won during COVID Remember that on the golf course. That was one of the great wax of all time.
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Speaker 17: Taylor Walker didn't wear a mask on a plane. Ken Heckley put his arms out, made up noise and got.
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Speaker 3: Twenty grand and then they promoted it for six months. They used it in the promo.
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Speaker 17: Put Adelaide got one hundred thousand dollars fine for putting a liar back on the ground without so called concussion protocols. This is more than a sanction.
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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred smells. You might have seen three sixty last night. Mark Knight's cartoon in the Herald Sun yesterday was amazing where it was a cartoon characature of a player being taken off on the wagon in the on the stretcher with a person behind him saying, hey, sign this contract, sign this contract. But that's what it happens right there.
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Speaker 17: We'll speak to Portstein, Brogan, Crows, Maddy Crouch on Texas retirement, Eddie McGuire. We said that do not miss that. At five we're going to see who's going to be the next chairman? Massive show. We've got Caddy Choon Siimon. Guess what'schepping on Thursday?
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Speaker 3: The cricket is a betch. I looked at the weather, going, I wonder what the weather's like because we've just had this apocalyptic rainstorm thirty thirty one every day.
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Speaker 17: I believe Big show, see it, well.
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Speaker 3: Don't see it four o'clock. Thank you, Rowi, Steven Roe, Tim Ginuer coming up, Big Show, don't miss Eddie McGuire, Andrew. We've got about a minute before we get to the news.
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Speaker 12: I'll be quick, hi, Andrew. How good was Kim Wilde and back in the day all those film clips that accompanied the songs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's lovely and good fun and I love the fact that she comes back and you know it's going through a resurgence kind of the nostalgic music. So that's very personal.
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Speaker 12: When you did leave one out the Bengals. But hey, look I'm calling about the census. If they're talking about taking a year to compile with the data, and I think I heard you say eighty five percent of it is online. You think that would just be like instantaneous. And then the other thing is if it's all about to help aiding governments to plan data. How come they didn't see the housing crisis emerging?
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Speaker 3: Yeah no, and you would think with AI they'd be able to do it a little quicker if everything's online. Andrew, surely there is a speed aspect to it. Exactly, Thank you, Andrew, great call. I appreciate that all of our callers in the running today for the tickets to the Royal Adelaide Show presented by Drake's. If you miss it, you'll be left for the serious case of show mo. We're giving family passes away all week TheShow dot com, dot you as we can buy your tickets Drake Supermarkets as well. Just look for the you'll see it there on the checkout. Gail from Salisbury has won our tickets today. Congratulations Gail. You will enjoy that, enjoy the Adelaide Show. We're about three and a half weeks away. More chances for you to win tomorrow from one o'clock. But as I say, the show dot com, dot you or Drakes is where you can buy them. Enjoy your afternoon, stay tuned, big sports show on the way and we'll see you tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: Clark, call me crazy, but I thought This probably would have already been the remit of local government. This is exactly what they should be talking about, and I'm actually shocked that this wasn't already mandated because look, I myself are not the brightest button on the Cardigan, so I would probably like our common language to be included on all shop runs and all signages around this great country.
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Speaker 3: From cheap media. Aspiring politician Hannah Ferguson, Look.
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Speaker 5: I disagree with Jenna that this is something that local councils should be discussing. I think it's amazing that we have a local area in city that is seventy three percent non English speaking. I think, as someone who only speaks one language, I'm impressed by anyone that's multi lingual society. There's me stuffing up an English word.
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Speaker 2: I think we should be.
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Speaker 5: Proud of the society we live in, and I think it should be up to store owners to choose. I think what's concerning to me about this debate started by a liberal counselor in Stratfield. There's no measurement of how many signs in the area don't have English language on their sign so I think it's kind.
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Speaker 1: Of a culture war.
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Speaker 5: That's been pushed without actual evidence to back it up.
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Speaker 3: So let's discuss with one of the counselors at Stratfield, John Paul Ballardi. John, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 3: Can you tell us about how this came about? So I mentioned that you tried years ago or the council will did at least what's been what's there investigation time? Ye?
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Speaker 6: Well yeah, look at that that first SETEMP predates my time, and there really is no connection between the two. The only connection I'd say is that Stutfield is a very busy town center. Here in Sydney. We're one of the busiest railway networks and bus interchanges where forty thousand people pass through each day. Now Here in Struttfield we have an extraordinarily multicultural community, with over seventy percent of residents speaking a language other than English at home. Right, there's some data for you on our census day. But this came about because one of our counselors, one of my colleagues on council counselor es To Kim, noticed a federal government ad for some sort of health service. I believe that was totally in Mandarin.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 6: Counselor Kim herself is a migrant from Korea, a former president of the Korean Society here in Sydney, and she took some offense to seeing a federal government at entirely Amandarin and not having access to whatever it was talking about. So she came up with this idea as a way to ensure that we always recognize, particularly in our Council communications, English as our common language to be able to always reach all residents. Now, as part of that motion, she also added that we should be encouraging and soon regulating businesses opening up. However, they put a sign up that it is in English to some degree. Now that doesn't mean that English has to be the main language, but it ought to be clear and prominent.
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Speaker 3: So you're not banning the other languages, are you. You're just adding English so that everyone can read the sign.
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Speaker 7: That's correct, Okay.
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Speaker 3: I heard one of the counselors suggests that it would boost a unity. Is that the common thought amongst your counsel Well, that's.
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Speaker 6: What Counselor Kim did suggest in her comments on this when proposing it to counsel and I would agree with that I think when you do have places that have such diversity like ours, we need to realize that unity is found when we have things that are common. You know, it's one thing to be multicultural, but to have common language, common culture, that's where we find unity and that's part of our Australian kind of story. And so, whilst there is great beauty in the diversity we do have here locally, having a common language, having a common identity is what brings us together.
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Speaker 3: Do you know if anyone other than the counselor has ever complained about it is an issue with the people within your council not being able to understand signage, jaw letters, etc.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, I've certainly had plenty of comments in the past. Absolutely, and in fact the council I told another anecdote when proposing this motion, which I thought was rather funny. She said that at her local church she had members of the congregation who weren't Korean, who came up to her and said, look, there's a Korean shop across the road selling something that's just opened up. We don't know what it's selling, and can you take us to show us and introduce us, because we'd love to it looks very exciting. There's sort of a bit of a husband buzz about this new place. We'd like to know what they're actually selling. And we all thought that was quite funny at council, because you know, here are people who know exist a few meters from each other, who, if they didn't know someone who was Korean, couldn't have had any introduction to that Korean store.
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Speaker 3: Do you think people jump on wild feel unwelcome if they were to go into a store and they didn't the language, they weren't able to understand what they were walking into and looking at people?
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Speaker 6: Might I mean, I personally don't know if unwelcome was maybe the right term, but certainly it's not an easy thing to do. If you don't know what a sign says outside of shop front, you know, there's unless it's blatantly obvious, it's not always clear what they are selling. But if I have a Chinese place that says Chinese takeaway in English, I know I can pop in and maybe get by. But if it's all written in Mandarin or Cantonese, I wouldn't know it otherwise.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. John Paul Ballati is my guest is the Strathfield counselor this is the idea of the Council passing the motion to make English compulsory on the business signs. I guess the question too would be John Paul, how do you enforce it? So do you force? Do you go around the local neighborhood, find the signs that are offending and say right, we need you to add English to this.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, the motion that has passed the Council doesn't quite go into those details. Instead, it's a little bit broader and asking for a report on current regulations. So I guess the first thing it does is recognize English as Australia's common language and then advocates for businesses operating within our lda to ensure that all shop fronts or advertising from council include language that includes languages over English, ensure that ensure that English is also displayed clearly and prominently. As I said, now, in terms of the nitted grity of regulating it, we'll wait to see what the report says, but I'm not sure. Here in New South Wales, the way that these things occur is that there is an application done through the Council to put up any new signage. So in the future, whenever someone does make an application, it would have to make sure you follow the new rules, whatever they might be. Like I said, we're still waiting for a report.
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Speaker 3: Do you think you might be a test case? Do you think that there is a chance that other councils would or should follow your lead?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely? As I said earlier, I think this is something that brings unity to our community. I think Australia is an English speaking nation. It may not be our official language, if you will, but it certainly is our common tongue and we ought to foster a sense of unity through things that are common.
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Speaker 3: And to the critics who say it's unnecessary and maybe an overreach from local government, what would your response be there?
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Speaker 6: I think this is the exact kind of thing local governments across the Australia should be doing. There should be doing things that enhance unity to deadness and a common identity. I mean, there are plenty of local councils who do things as outrageous as cancel Australia day now. I don't know how that brings unity out. That's within the remit of a local council, but this certainly.
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Speaker 3: Is sure, so the signage and I'll finish on this if can counsel us. So we're not saying so for example, there's a really popular restaurant here in Adelaide called Parwana. It's an Afghan restaurant on Henley Beach Road. You're not suggesting so the Afghan word Parwana stands for butterfly or moth. You're not suggesting that we need to have butterfly underneath. It's more the language that we can't read. If you're someone who only can read English, for example, that's what you're suggesting.
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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. So we're not saying that it has to you know, if we're using Laddin new letters, you know, then that's fine. It's it's the languages that use other scripts that ought to be you know, either translated or understandable. Now, if you have an Italian restaurant that's got an Italian name, I mean, that's something we can sort of all understand. It's when there is a clear barrier there that things should be should should be fixed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting discussion. Appreciate your time, John p All the South Fornoon, Thanks so much.
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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 3: John Paul BLARTI here is a unselor for Strathfield Council in New South Wales, part of Sydney. If you'd like to have you say, what do you think eight double two three double O double OW Is that something that you would suggest happens here in Adelaide and in South Australia too? Do you think that English should be compulsory on business science? Are there businesses in Adelaide where the signage is not in English, where you don't necessarily know what the business offers, what the business name is, what their services are, and maybe you haven't gone in because of that? Or do you think, like some are suggesting, perhaps it's an overreach from local government and it's unnecessary. We've got buy find so far we don't need to change it. Eight double two to three double O double O. Be interested to get your thought? You can send a text two zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. I would encourage you to call because remember every caller today in the running for the show Family Pass eight double two three double double A.
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Speaker 1: Have you say five double A afternoons with Leaf Forest.
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Speaker 3: If you'd like to join in the conversation. A double two to three double O double oh, let's head to the Lower Mid North.
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Speaker 8: Hello Jackie, good afternoon, Hello, good Afternoonly. I just want to make a comment in regard to different languages around Australia. I think it's great that people use different languages, but I think they also need to be inclusive of Australians and have the English there.
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Speaker 2: So you're for it.
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Speaker 3: You like the idea of the sign that explains both in native tongue and in English what it is.
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Speaker 8: They can have their native tongue, but the Australian native tongue is English, so I think we should we should be using what's Australian.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, I can understand that argument. I guess we've got through so far. Is the argument from others saying does it matter? Do you think it's an overreach from council or that is the kind of thing that council should be doing so that people know what the shops are.
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Speaker 8: Exactly they should. I don't think it's an overreach of the council. I think it's their job to make sure that their constituent know what's happening in the in their council, and signage is a part of that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. I've never really thought of it, Jackie, to be honest, but I'll have a look next time. You know, I'm in Chinatown through Guja and Groat Street and have a look. But I don't think from memory that there's English translation there, but maybe there is. I left to have a lot well.
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Speaker 8: As I said, I'm from the lower Mid North, so if I visit Adelaide and I don't go into those areas very often. But I have no idea what's I go into a place that doesn't have English. I have no idea what's there and what's not. Yes, I don't speak the other languages, so I think I think English should be included.
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Speaker 3: So you not feel welcoming in those places. I guess if you don't know what.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you don't feel welcome here.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jackie, I appreciate the call. Thank you for that. This one said Leath. I don't think it matters too much, might cause more division, but realistically it should be in Australian. Another said there are plenty of overseas branded business down the northern end of Prospect wrote I'm sure with multiculturalism most suburbs would have areas like that Brian would like to see go further mandate that English has to be spoken in all public places. I think this would help integrate multicultural groups. Okay, thank you, Brian. I'm not sure is that going to be possible though pretty hard to teach people English if it's not there their first language. I mean, people try, but even not just new arrivals. I think some of the old Greeks and Italians and the Europeans who came out in the sixties, I know a lot of those still speak in their native tongue. So thank you. Brian. Whendy agrees with the counselor. It would always be good to know in English what the signage is saying, whether it is food or whether it is general merchandise. Lou says, isn't the whole point of coming to a country like Australia to integrate into our society, like it or not. English is the common thread. Migrants leave their countries for a better life, not to create segregated on slaves of what they leave behind, says Lou. And Adam says, our primary language in Australia is English, and this is why I'm against renaming place names. It's only a fraction of the population who understand its okay, So an overwhelming majority of people saying that the English should be on business signs. Maybe other councils here in Adelaide and South Australia will follow suit, like the Strathfield Council there in Sydney. You can have your say on that if you wish eight double two to three double OW will take more of a calls and emails and sms. As the show goes on, we'll get to the headlines with mel get the latest on that power outage in the CBD and through Rundell Moore. I do know that Rundell Place was completely out of power. A lot of people heading to wol Worst because Cole's had no power at that stage. On the other side, we're going to talk about some of the issues facing our nurses, including the surge in assaults across the country amid a cost of living pressure. So that's next.
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Speaker 1: Five Double A afternoons with Leak Forest.
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Speaker 3: Thanks you were twenty eight minutes to two. Graham on the text said someone mentioned multicultural groups. What are multicultural groups? Are there non multicultural groups? Robert says, surely from a purely business perspective, you would want to attract as many customers as possible. Signs in multiple languages can only be your benefit for sales and profit in harder times, And Carol says, are we really so fragile? Can't we just enjoy and embrace other cultures? Maybe we should have conversations about the forty women murdered this year so far. Thank you, Carol, Well, that is something that we should talk more about. Carol, You're right. We do touch on it from time to time on the show, which is just a national disgrace. But yeah, how do we fix that problem? I'd love to. We've mentioned it many, many times. It kind of leads into our next story, which unfortunately is that there is a lot of violence in society these days, and not that there should ever be, but in two there should never be in the workforce surely, which makes it even more difficult to read today that Australian nurses are being assaulted at unprecedented rates. This is in the Eastern States. Expert are saying it's a result of the cost of living, pressures and a lack of consequences. A new report from the Nurses and Midwives Association of the New South Wales, so that one in five nurses have been threatened with a weapon, while almost half have been either punched, slapped or kicked. It's outrageous. Is it the case in South Australia as it is in New South Wales. Let's find out the social professor Elizabeth the Bars from the Australian Nursing and Midwifrey of SA lovely to have you won, Elizabeth, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 9: It's a pleasure, thank you for yours.
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Speaker 3: I assume that we're not immune to this kind of behavior in essay.
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Speaker 9: Look sadly we're not. This has been a really significant issue for our members for a very long time and we know that it's not support it. You know, the employers don't support the fact that this is happening. The issue is getting actually strategies in place that actually literally deal with the issue. That's the problem. We do know that there's a lot of drug and substance abuse in our society. The report is correct in saying that, you know, there's often very little consequence to people's actions, and then of course there are the other occasions where the person really doesn't have control over their body at that particular point in time, but that doesn't mean it's okay or should be acceptable. So we've long held the approach that it can and it should be a zero tolerance approach, that we need to put in every strategy in place to eliminate it. That should be the goal is not just minimization, but elimination. We do have and this is why it's a very sad indictment really on our system that many of our hospital and healthcare settings are now really a huge workforce in them is security personnel. And that's really it's not the ideal. It is a band aid solution, but when the problem is so enormous, you need to put in place people who can literally put hands on or to help out in those particular circumstances, or even better to prevent them from happening in the first place.
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Speaker 3: Elizabeth. Then the reporter talks about one measure being experimented with his hospitals around the country introducing separate wards for patients with behavioral issues. Have we got that here in SA.
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Speaker 9: Well to a degree we do have in some areas we've got a but it's really inadequate. I should hasten to add there's an they do a fantastic job. On the former repatriation site, there is an area for in particular elderly people with behavioral issues and they're doing amazing work there. But when we're talking about our emergency department through our general wards, as a general rule, no we don't have separate areas. We have been advocating for separate areas, particularly people struggling with either substance abuse or mental health issues to be put in separate areas really largely because you need to make sure that they are in a more settled environment so you're not actually triggering some of the behaviors that you really don't want them to be engaging in. You know, there's de escalation training, but the escalation only goes so far.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's interesting to the report now it is New South Wales, but I imagine a lot of these factors and issues that they're having, Elizabeth, would be the same you're facing here in South Australia. So it said eighty to eighty eight percent in just six years. When it comes to nurses, midwives and cares have experienced violence, nurses saying the abuse is pushing people out of the job. Have you found that have you lost great nurses in our industry here because.
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Speaker 9: Of that we have that's absolutely the case. We have had people who have been assaulted and been unable to return to work. We have had equally instances where people have been able to return to work, but some of their colleagues have seen what's happened to them and have just simply said enough is enough. So sadly, this is a serious problem. I mean, I've spoken to our members, one of whom had her hair literally ripped from her scalp from a patient who was unhappy. Another one who got punched in the face. We've got recent reports of people our wonderful nurses and midwives and stuff Australia walking to and from the car park being assaulted in recent months. The hospitals are responsive to the extent that they are trying to put in additional security and additional lighting, but it's really not fixing the issue, and the issue remains that violence and aggression continues to escalate, and really unless you're being literally accompanied by a security officer more times and even then, it's a really unpredictable environment. And we just continue to say we've got to work collectively, We've got to work together. We've got to identify all the problems and then offer solutions to them. And there have been some instances where there's been better protections put in place, so more barriers put in place areas that people can safely exit. Sadly, sometimes that does mean that the staff for exiting, but they can't take all of the other patients with them. So it's not just an issue for the nurses and midwives and other health professionals. It's a systemic issue. It's an issue for the other patients and visitors as well.
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Speaker 3: That's terrific. I read that one of the union bosses in New South Wales said there's now this expectation nurses just cop abuse as part of their jobs, which is that just passes no pub test. That's awful, Elizabeth, As you say it should be zero tolerance, Why is it not.
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Speaker 9: That's look, I think there's a I think where things get a bit difficult, and this is where you need to have all the people who are the decision makers on the same page about saying no that you know, nurses and midwives are not punching bags. They are not They're not to be abused, whether verbally or physically, and it's just not good enough. So I think, you know, we've been very clear that there are some circumstances that would mean, or we believe would mean that people have no right to health care treatment if that's how they're going to treat other people. We're very conscientious and aware that, you know, you've got to be careful about those circumstances because where is that fine line between the person not having capacity and still actually requiring health care. So we understand it's complex, but you know, if you're fit enough to be walking and talking and punching and hitting, depending on the circumstances, it may well be that you're fit enough not to be there. Yeah, the problem, The problem becomes where are you going?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine attacking someone who's trying to help you, like it just makes the mind boggle. Elizabeth Diabaz is my guest CEO of the Australian Nursing and Midwiffrey Federation. Sixty eight percent Elizabeth of nurses who experienced violence, according to the survey, didn't report it, believing that they would result in zero consequences and prevention in the future. I read that by twenty thirty five they're expecting a shortfall of seventy thousand nurses. Do you think if they don't fix it soon, that will continue or will be short of nurses.
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Speaker 9: I think it's one factor. I think it's one factor in a very very difficult situation. I mean, absolutely, violence and aggression does need to be addressed. It needs to be eliminated, it needs to be made clear it's not acceptable, and all the systems and structures put in place, both environmental and structural, to make that happen. And we have, you know, we have a ten point plan that we gave to the government and to their credit, they absolutely agreed with it. I think the problem remains making sure it's implemented to its fullest and making sure that it's not a set and forget. But I couldn't agree more. I think that sentiment about people feeling like if they report it, nothing happens anyway is a very serious one. I have directly spoken with the chief executives of the local health networks about the failure of their reporting system, and one of the big issues with it is there's no feedback loop. No one gets a response at the end of it to say thank you, we took on board your concern. And this is the outcome directly as a result of that concern. It feels like it goes into a vacuum, and you know, no one knows who sees it, what happens, what the results are, and there's no obvious change occurs. So this is a very important issue and one that we have advocated and continue to advocate. We must have a situation where people feel not just that they had their opportunity, but something happened and they became aware, they become aware of what indeed that outcome was, and even better, involve them in the process.
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Speaker 3: How important is consistency every state and territory you have their own EBA, so their own agreements when it comes to pay So some nurses in some states are paid less than others. Elizabeth, that makes no sense either.
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Speaker 9: We agree with you, and that is also what we were advocating to the state government, which is we can't have this national inconsistency for a whole range of reasons, one being that if you are really serious about recruiting and retaining your staff, that you've got to be nationally competitive and that means, you know, paying rates that compare favorably with other states and territories we do. I think it's a serious issue. We know in South Australia people are behind. As you know, people did have an opportunity to vote on an agreement recently they send a very strong message back to government saying that they didn't believe it reflected their worth, their value and are the national market. And so we are now proceeding with an arbitration on that same matter down in the Industrial Commission.
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Speaker 3: Well, Elizabeth, I don't know. I think you know, you guys should be paid what you should be paid, and I think we should kiss the ground that you walk on because the amount of work that you do, the fact that you nurses are underpaid and now they're a threat of violence going to the workplace, just that doesn't that's not right at all. So let's hope changes are made for the safety in the future of the industry going forward. I appreciate your time this afternoon, thank.
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Speaker 9: You, and I really appreciate your sentiment too.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Elizabeth. As the CEO of the Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation of South Australia, can you believe that one in five? So this is a new South Wales report, but you could pretty much take it. This is right across the country in all states, one in five nurses have been threatened with a weapon. The others half have been punched, slapped, or kicked. Really, nurses who are doing good for you? Now, I get it. It's substance abuse and mental health. I understand that maybe the people who are a feending aren't quite aware of what they're doing. But still, let's make it so that the nurses can have a workplace where they can feel safe and be paid accordingly. We'll find out how that all plays out. If you're someone who is a nurse yourself, if you've been in this industry, or you have a family or friend who's been in that situation, let us know. I mean some of the stories you hear just horrifying. Butefully the report being released leads to more changes and less figures, because that is they are big numbers. Seventy percent experienced violence and didn't report it because they didn't think it would get them anywhere. That's a sad indictment too, isn't it. You can have you save your wish double two three double A double.
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Speaker 1: A five double A Afternoons with Lee Forest.
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Speaker 3: Eleven minutes to two. Gale from Salisbury. You're a nurse, had experience and this ever faced any violent type behavior, Gail.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I have, unfortunately quite a few years ago when I was working in the ED. Yeah, I was hit by a patient who was drug affected and this patient was just so intoxicated with drugs and we had to get the security to come as a code black and it was just happened so quickly and it was just terrifying. And that was my experience, but I also know of other nurses that have experienced it, and it's it seems to be increasing. When I first started nursing, you didn't hear about it that much. And I think it's also a reflection on society what's happening out there. There's obviously more drugs, there seems to be less consequences, and whatever's happening in society, it happens.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 10: Obviously hospitals there's a great deal of people, volume of people coming through, so that's reflective, but yeah, not pleasant. I had to take time off work. Luckily, I consider myself lucky that I could come back to work, because I've heard of nurses that haven't been able to return, and it's just really tragic because they're only doing their job and just trying to help.
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Speaker 3: We need as many nurses as you know, Gail, as we can, so you don't want any leaving the workforce because of.
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Speaker 10: That, exactly exactly, And you know, like Elizus Gabarz said, you know, in by twenty thirty five, I think that's seventy thousand nurses short in South Australia and not getting paid on a par with other states doesn't help, because yeah, it's not attractive to nurses because you know, you've got to pay your mortgage, you've got to pay your bills. It is the sort of job that you do because you love it, but that doesn't pay the bills.
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Speaker 3: No, well, one hundred percent go no. And we're thankful for you doing that, and we're thankful for every nurse doing that. That's right, Pay them accordingly and give them a safe workplace. The fact that so many people now are insecurity is an indictment. But if that's what's needed, that's what's needed. Thank you, Gail, I appreciate the call. Thank you for sharing your story. Sally said the nurse's situation needs to be put into some perspective, patient insevere pain shouting out while being treated is not abuse, but it is reported as abuse to nurses, so the numbers could be wrong. Sally, I don't have verbal abuse numbers, but I do have physical abuse numbers. And what they were saying is that half of the nurses who were surveyed have been either punch slapped or kicked. Verbal abuse, but literal physical abuse. So yeah, I'm sure that number is even higher when it comes to verbal So thank you for that. Amideo says, take a walk up Guja Street. You'll see many of the Asian restaurant's signs have English translation underneath. Thank you for that. Andrea says, what's happening in the city, Run to a place, the huber Piri, the birth, death, marriages, office, fire trucks and news stations. About power issue, Yes there was, Andrea, we haven't been able to get to the bottom of it, but we know that there were some five hundred people affected by that. That has all changed. That's actually been fixed in the last half hour or so, which is the good news. But yeah, for a period there there was a lot of places in the mall without power. And on that Kathy said, here we go again with power outages. How many people are carrying cash? Remember cash is king. Thank you, Kathy. A double two to three, double O, double O is my number. I love this story. Before we get to the two o'clock news, new data is revealing that people are ditching traditional wellness trends. See, you know you're a bit stress, you're a bit under the pump. You think what I would do. I'll just go get a relaxing massage, or I'll just go to get a spa treatment or something. No, no, what they're doing is adrenaline fixes, extreme adrenaline, just to reset the mental health and get them going. It makes sense to me. Adelaide's skydiving center instructor is Richard Timperon. He joins me this afternoon, Richard, lovely to have you on.
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Speaker 11: Oh thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: You would experience that. I'm sure that people once they jump out of a plane land safely, they probably come over to you and they're adrenaline is buzzing and you know they're running high. Would be great for the mental health.
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Speaker 11: I would think as sure is I can guarantee you're not thinking about your phone when you're about to step out of a plane.
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Speaker 3: Are you noticing more and more people are doing that of all ages, trying to find that adrenaline rush.
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Speaker 11: H Yes and no. It's interesting. I've read that when I was looking at the data, and you know what, every generation have an increasing scott Open when they're in that age bracket of eighteen to twenty five. So I don't know that's really what's driving it, but the industry is certainly changing. And as far as getting away from your normal, a fixed world into a peace and quiet and meditation, it's definitely a way of forced meditation. A's one hundred percent. You're in the moment, You're not thinking about anything else. I would recommend if you struggle well with learning meditation like many people do, scott omals except I.
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Speaker 3: Love the idea Richard. People have got their work routines. I've got all this digital noise and they're saying, you know what, no green smoothie for me. I'm going with Richard jumping out of a plane of fifteen thousand feet that would be did you jump in the winter or is it just too much cloud cover? Youve got to wait for the nicer weather.
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Speaker 12: No, No, we jump all year.
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Speaker 11: Get held up a little bit more in the winter, but we've seen some of our nicest days. Sometime I can get quite hot and dermic winds can come up, but winter time to get those smooth are but it is colder. So I do understand that people don't want to come out as much.
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Speaker 3: So I did it. I was telling Graham Godding's earlier Richard. I did it with my father in Gulwa and my brother and my wife for my dad's I think it was his sixtieth and it was just a great family bonding experience. And even you know, we had such a beautiful day, but that little period richer where you go through the clouds where it's nice and warm and calm and then there's a brief sort of arctic blast, that itself was something so special to experience.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Look, if you sometimes you can get it where though there's huge, fussy white clouds and open up the parachuting to fly around the slide of them, the sun's bouncing off them, as just you wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
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Speaker 3: And I never felt like I was going to die, maybe because I had a person strapped to my back and thought, well, day I want to die, So I'm not going to die. When I bungee jumped, I did for a brief period thought gee, I hope this can't he clip this right to my ankles. Otherwise this could be it. But it's super safe and it's super enjoyable for people to try. They should get out of their comfort zone and come and jump with you.
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Speaker 9: That's right.
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Speaker 11: But that's part of the attraction though, isn't it just not knowing one hundred percent taking a risk.
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Speaker 3: Are you finding we've got an older demographic at five double A in terms of our listenership. Are you finding people of older generations taking the plunge and enjoying the skydive?
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Speaker 11: Yes, that's so. I think overall people are not doing as much as they used to do. However, we do find that the older generation are more likely to learn Scott Over was not time everyone learned when in their early twenties.
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Speaker 7: Yep.
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Speaker 11: But now a lot of people skipping that. And then they once they get their life set up and houses under control, they come out in their forty sixty years they're wanting to learn to SkyLife. So which is you know, I kick themselves fast and mentally thing later. That's fine, but sometimes I can have its own challenges.
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Speaker 3: How many years you've been sky diving, Richard, how many jumps would you have any idea?
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Speaker 11: I don't know about fourteen thousand jumps over thirty one years.
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Speaker 3: Fourteen thousand. Is there one jump better than the other in Adelaide and South Australia or they're all good?
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Speaker 11: Oh, they're all good.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: Sure, we do one into the winery and the caravels. That's pretty magic, especially we've got people coming to watch. It's just a perfect setting to watch.
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Speaker 3: You come in on land and it's weird because I guess it doesn't take the actual freefall itself before you pull the ripcord. I don't know how long that period of time is, Richard, but I remember at the gool One looking around going you know, you can see landmarks in the ocean and like, there's it's actually a nice little site. Are still falling? Yeah, like that. It seems like it goes really I don't know what the falling time is before.
00:41:03
Speaker 11: You pull, but it's around about a minute.
00:41:06
Speaker 3: Really.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:41:06
Speaker 3: It was excellent and traditionally fifteen thousand feet or higher or lower.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:41:11
Speaker 11: Yeah, So everywhere in Australia's fifteen has feet the max you can go do the oxygen restrictions and yeah, it's really complicated to go higher than that, but you've seen there's plenty.
00:41:23
Speaker 3: I think, well, if people want to take part in your services and do a jump, what do we need to know? Maybe they want to reset their mental health, maybe they want to tick something off the bucket list, you know, bring some excitement and adrenaline and thrill seeking to their life. What should they do, Richard, Yeah.
00:41:39
Speaker 11: Jump on the website or give us a ring. Adelaide Skydiving Center, like said, we do the lower light one. If you want to learn, we can come out there or do a tandem, or you can come to Sky of the Vines at mcclarenbaugh into the winery if you want on some a little bit more upmarket.
00:41:54
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good Christmas gift idea too.
00:41:57
Speaker 11: I think it's just definitely you know, if you love them or hate them, it doesn't matter. You can get them at.
00:42:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, read into it what you will that we want to throw you out of a plane. Richard, Thank you, I appreciate your time this afternoon.
00:42:09
Speaker 2: Happy for well done.
00:42:11
Speaker 3: That is Richard Timper on Adelaide's Skydiving Center instructor fourteen thousand. So how's that two in every three skydivers they're now saying they're gen Z, which is the eighteen to twenty four year olds. The ditching traditional wellness trends for extreme adrenaline fixes. So no more meditation apps, no more calm on your phone, jump out of a plane. If you've never done it, I would highly recommend it. It's well worth doing. If you have experienced it, I'd love to know your thoughts.
00:42:40
Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Leek Forrest.
00:42:43
Speaker 3: Five minutes after two. Thanks for tuning in on this Tuesday afternoon Big hour on the way. We'll speak to the team from Phil Hopman Travel. Peter Williams will be here as well as Alex from Konard. If you love the cruising and you love the Queens, you'll be interested in that chat this afternoon, and we'll speak Trent Nikolick in just one second. Always great to have Trent on the show. A couple of quick texts before we do, Tom said, least, what does a cost a skydive? From memory? Tom, it's a couple of hundred dollars. I think that's the one that we did around Goolwerk. Now again I did mine probably ten years ago, fifteen years ago. Oh, hang on Madeline's foundly it's now a bit over five hundred dollars for a fifteen thousand foot jump. Now again, you know it's a one off. Quite often you do it as a special occasion unless you learn how to do it. But I think ours, from memory was a couple of hundred at the time, but it was well worth doing. People pay that now for concerts, So that's the kind of cost that you want to pay. I would assume if you're doing one of the wineries that we mentioned, that might be a little bit more expensive. And Andrews said regarding the AI Royal Commission from our premier, it should be a global conference, not a three million dollar royal commission for a small state of one point five mel premier once elect this profile nationally for a future tilt at federal politics. It's all about Peter, thank you, Andrew. I'm not sure if that's what he's designed. I certainly think that will be the outcome. I thought that yesterday when he announced it. Why would we do that? That's what the Prime Minister should be doing. Ah, maybe Peter should be the Prime Minister. Maybe you're under something, Andrew, thank you appreciate it. Hey, double two to three double O double ow join the conversation. Every caller that goes to wear before four o'clock in the running for the family pass for the Royal Show, which is about three and a half weeks away. As I mentioned, always fun to speak to. My next guest, Trent Nikolick from cars drive dot com dot he's the motoring expert god a Trent. Lovely to have you on.
00:44:42
Speaker 14: Oh, I make good afternoons to you and to all your listeners.
00:44:44
Speaker 3: I'm going to try again wheels media. Do you know it's one of those things You've got a lot on the plate. There's a lot going on.
00:44:49
Speaker 2: In your world.
00:44:50
Speaker 14: You can just say five double a motoring expert.
00:44:53
Speaker 3: Well, yes, thanks, I know. Do you know I looked on the screen and went, no, it's not there. Let me try and get it from memory and the brain fog from COVID have me probably four jobs that you've never worked. Lovely to have you on, though, thank you for coming on.
00:45:05
Speaker 2: Hey.
00:45:06
Speaker 3: Every time we get to speak, it's fun because you know that cars are a big deal in this town and eves trigger our listeners like nothing else. This is not so much a triggering story, but I think a really interesting information piece about the biggest challenge of owning an EV is that people don't know or how to prepare for getting behind the wheel because it's so different. It's like learning how to drive all over again.
00:45:29
Speaker 2: Trent.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, this is not news to me, obviously, because I've spent so much time testing them, and I've always fascinated speaking to people who are in their first electric vehicle, and it's quite interesting. There's a story that you and I are referring to here that show that a lot of the data illustrates that the first accident that you have in your EV is likely to happen in the first early period of ownership. And that's because they're completely different things to own and drive. Now, when we talk about them and when your listeners are about them, the focus, unsurprisingly is on probably three things range how do I charge them? And then what do they cost? They're the three things that we tend to talk about here. But I think something that's probably valuable for anybody who's buying a new car, whether it's hybrid, plug in, hybrid electric or regular now is when you buy that car, I'd probably sit in it in the driveway for a good couple of hours before I even took it anywhere. I'd get it straight home from the dealer, and then I'd sit in the driveway and I would familiarize myself with everything. Because with a modern car, the simple act of turning up the fan speed on the air conditioning, or the temperature on the air conditioning, or turning your heated seats on and off, or adjusting the radio volume, for example, those things in a lot of new cars, not just electric. They don't come up in the form of a physical button or a switch that you just reference where it is on the dashboard and use it. They could be within a menu system, behind a touch screen, behind an operating system. There's a lot of complexity there. Then beyond all of that, once you get familiar with all of that, is how you actually drive them. Electric vehicles. Yes, they're a car. They look like a car when you sit in them. They've got a steering wheel and two pedals, and they kind of drive like a car, but they do behave very differently.
00:47:24
Speaker 3: So I've never driven one, but I've watched. If I've taken like an uber or ride share as to how the driver goes about it. The idea trend of one pedal driving an instant acceleration. Again, it's going from the old days of when you were sixteen years of age and you got in that manual car and you've got a clutch of break and an accelerator to deal with. I imagine why you would see some crash patterns emerging or people being reluctant to drive.
00:47:50
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, spot on and look the biggest difference, So your connection to the car, even with an older automatic, let alone a manual, is very different to an electric vehicle. The easiest way I can describe it, if you talk about acceleration to start with, it's like an on off switch, so it's not very progressive. So basically, when you walk into a room and it's dark and you turn the lights on, the lights come on full light, and then when you turn them off, goes pitch black again. If you nail the accelerator pedal in an electric car, even a slower electric car, it's like all hell breaks loose, because even a slow electric car is fast, let alone the fast ones right, So that part of it is very different it's nowhere near as progressive in that the speed and the power builds in the way that it does in a conventional vehicle. And then look, the one pedal driving thing for me is fascinating, I find myself. And this could just be because I jump in and out of so many different cars. I find myself getting comfortable with the one pedal driving thing very quickly when I jump into an electric car, and they're all a little bit different. But for listeners who don't know what we're talking about, you can set them up so that when you lift off the accelerator, the electric has actually reversed the way that they spin, and they then eke back some electricity as well some charge. But it basically slows the car down, and once you get used to it, you can effectively drive around without using the brakes much at all. Sometimes you won't use them at all, sometimes very little. But I also understand that for a lot of people that's very disconcerting because you take your foot off the accelerator and the car doesn't free roll in the way that an automatic or manual would. It starts to slow down. So I think what a lot of people I would recommend they do while they're getting familiar with everything else that the car does, because it's all going to be new to them. I would turn one pedal driving off and then it feels pretty much like a conventional automatic until you get used to everything else, and then turn it back on and start.
00:49:43
Speaker 6: To get used to it.
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Speaker 3: Trent On, no chance I've driven in cars because mine is not one of those touch starts. The amount of times I've left the keys inside the car and walk down or left the motor running, you know, thinking that because we're so used, there's muscle memory to it. It was interesting to read in some of the data that came out from this research. Seven and ten EV owners believe they knew what to expect, but many later admitted they were all caught off guard.
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Speaker 14: Spot on, yes, spot on, and look at that point you make. There is a very good one. I always joke, and there's a lot of these in modern cars. But the keyless ignition thing is the answer to a question nobody asked. No one went to a team of engineers and said, oh, look, this act of putting the key into the ignition and turning it. That's way too hard. I don't want to do that. Can you remove that. I'll I'll keep this big fat bulky key in my pocket if I'm a bloke, or in a handbag if I'm a woman, or maybe both either or now these days as well. And then what happens is you either the amount of times the amount of times that for example, I'll jump in my mum's car and her key is in her handbag, so it won't unlock until she goes around right up to the passenger door. For the car door unlocked, I'm standing there like a goose. If it's raining outside getting wet, then when you go to lock it, I need to take the key out of mum's bag to do it. Or if I've got the key in my pocket, I've got a big lump in my pocket that I don't really want there while I'm driving around. It's silly that sort of stuff. But yeah, again, it's easy to lose the key, drop it somewhere where you don't know where it is. It falls into a storage pocket in the door or whatever it might be. But I think there's just what this illustrates, and your listeners will certainly have an opinion on this, But what this illustrates is that a modern car now is a hell of a lot more like a computer or an iPad or a phone, that there's all this other layer of technology that you need to learn and understand outside of just driving it.
00:51:35
Speaker 2: Trend.
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Speaker 3: Nikolick is my guess editor of Wills Media, So on that trend, you know, the police always talk about distraction. You know, you can't be on your phone because you're distracted. For anyone who hasn't driven an EV how much is the touchscreen and the controls that you need for that? Is that playing any part When you look at the rise in accidents with evs, I.
00:51:54
Speaker 14: Reckon it is. I've got a huge issue with it. I've written this and said this in video reviews many times over the last five years or so that I think manufacturers that are trying to go so far down the path of having no button switches or controls and then everything is on the screen in the center that you have to access it is way too distracting, way too hard, and way too difficult to get to in terms of the layers that you have to work through in order to So if you're driving along and you've got the mapping screen on, but you want to change the temperature in the air con you've got to tap a couple of times to get to it to turn the temperature up. Tesla has gotten away with having everything on the center stack, including the speedometer reading and even in the Model three, the gear shifter, so there's not even a stalk anymore to choose the gear. It's a touch screen in the middle as part of the touch screen. And look, I've had an issue with it since it's started because I just think, again, it's the answer to a question nobody asked, but also it requires you all of those level of things, like try to do a quick three point turn in a Tesla Model three that you've got to mess around with the touch screen to put it in reverse and back to drive. It just doesn't make sense.
00:53:01
Speaker 3: Now, how is that safe if you're tapping on your screen like it's a phone.
00:53:06
Speaker 14: Yep, exactly. I think anything that takes your eyes away from dead to head is problematic, which is why cars that have got a head up display and now head up displays are fantastic. The way that they reflect up in the windscreen such that when you don't need it, you forget that it's there, but when you do need it, it's extremely visible.
00:53:23
Speaker 2: To you.
00:53:23
Speaker 14: Cars that have got a good head up display like that, I think should get bonus points. But I think that's why I say, for example, that's why I say things like sitting in your driveway and learning where all the commands and controls are is so important, because there'll be proponents of this stuff that we'll say, yeah, but I can sit in let's say it's a Mercedes Benz, I can sit in a Mercedes Bends and say, hey, Mercedes, turn the air on up to twenty two degrees, or hey, Mercedes turned the driver's heated seat on. Yeah you can do that, but do you really want to have to do that? Did you need to have to do that?
00:53:56
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, one hundred percent. And you drive so many I see occasionally they'll advertise and say, oh, this car now comes with a built in DVD player, And again I think, what isn't that a distraction?
00:54:08
Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, the reality of that.
00:54:11
Speaker 14: So Tesla was one of the first to do it. That you could because Tesla doesn't have Apple Car Player, Android Auto. What you have to do is put all the apps on the Tesla system and then sign into them. Tesla's sales pitch was that you know, while you're sitting there waiting for your car to charge for forty minutes, you can watch an episode of your favorite show on Netflix on your screen. That's okay because it disables itself as soon as the cars moving, so you can't be driving around watching TV. But I just think, even you know, there's a reason that young drivers p players aren't allowed to be using the mapping and the phone systems and stuff, even if they've got Apple car Play and Android all that, because even though it's high tech, and even though it's better than fiddling around with your phone in your lap, it's still distracting you from what you're actually doing.
00:54:55
Speaker 3: That's right, you take your eyes off off the road for two seconds to look at your phone. So I guess are they alled to pea platters allowed to use the audio navigation? Like is Siria allowed to tell you where you're going? Or none of that is?
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Speaker 14: I was talking to my little niece certainly, who just got her peace certainly up in New South Wales. I was talking to her about this last week. She's technically not allowed to have any functionality of her phone at all connected through the infotainment system, so she can run if the car has satellite navigation itself in built into the car. I think that's allowed to run. But nothing that's related to the phone, whether it's audio streaming or anything else.
00:55:32
Speaker 3: Just wat jannide if you're a peaplad to get lost because you have no idea where you're going now, true, just so it doesn't feel like a pylon, because I know that we have some audience members who do love their evs, despite the fact that the first three months of ownership is the highest risk period with crash patterns emerging, despite the fact that EV's rearing crashes account for one in five collision claims. People tell me it's a quite smooth and relaxing drive, would you agree.
00:55:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:55:58
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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Speaker 14: There's a certain premium luxury to the way that an electric vehicle behaves because it's quiet. It's funny how when you stop and think about it, whether it's a house, you know, the cabin of the aeroplane that you're in, a hotel, or a car, we subconsciously define luxury as quiet and silence, and the quieter something is, the more luxurious it feels. So you know, if you sit down in an hotel room and you close the door, and it's really quiet. You go, wow, how nice is this? I can't even hear what the person next door is doing. So I think when you're driving around in an EV, that is absolutely something that's relevant to it. And I think once you get past those questions that I mentioned right at the start. So if you've bought an EV and you pass the point of worrying about how you charge it and how much range.
00:56:44
Speaker 2: It has so where you.
00:56:44
Speaker 6: Can drive from, and.
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Speaker 14: Then I think once you speak to people, they go, yeah, I love it. I've had a really good experience with it. Most people, if they're smart, they're charging it at home. Whether they've got solar or not, they're charging it at home, so they're not at the behest of the public charging network. And for a lot of people, yeah, they get past that initial hurdle of all the strange things that they do and say, yeah, I love this.
00:57:07
Speaker 6: It's a great experience.
00:57:09
Speaker 3: So right, so get through the hesitation at first, then you'll become a fanboy. Is what you're telling me. I'm going to have to give that.
00:57:16
Speaker 14: Isn't that what they told you when you're eighteen or nineteen and you could start drinking alcohol. I used to say, I'll just keep trying and you'll like it eventually.
00:57:22
Speaker 3: Well, you see, I'm a teetotaler. That exactly right. I pushed back. Eventually they kept saying that, and I said, Trent, if you eat rocks enough, eventually you'll enjoy the taste. I don't want to eat rocks.
00:57:34
Speaker 7: I don't want to eat rock.
00:57:36
Speaker 3: It's always great to have you on. Thank you for that. Before I let you go, were allowed to just twist your arm. I know for wheels media. You're in New Zealand. Are you doing something exciting and you can just tease us with.
00:57:46
Speaker 14: Yeah, I can say, next time we speak, I'll tell you what exactly the experience that I've had. But I'm over here in Queenstown where they've got a thing called the Southern Hemisphere Proving Ground, which is effectively a big racetrack like facility that's on ice all in New Zeale. So we're testing. We're here with Zeker, one of.
00:58:02
Speaker 3: The op we've lost him. Oh we just see somebody cut us off. They didn't want that story. I know you're back, you're back. We lost you for two seconds.
00:58:15
Speaker 14: Okay, Yeah, that's all right mate. I'm with Zeker. So I'm going to be test driving their whole range of cars, basically one of them on a regular racetrack and then a whole bunch of them on ice and snow. So next time we speak, I'll let you know.
00:58:26
Speaker 7: Exactly what they're like.
00:58:27
Speaker 3: So you're living the grand tour kind of lifestyle there at Wills Media. You get to travel in all these amazing cars and test amount of track work.
00:58:37
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's basically out work like the Stig.
00:58:39
Speaker 3: That's amazing, Trent, I have a good time. Oh, I appreciate you being on.
00:58:43
Speaker 6: Thank you mate.
00:58:44
Speaker 3: Trent Nikolik is the editor of Wils Media. So there you go. If you're thinking about getting an EV, don't worry about It's not just the charging that you have to worry about. The survey says half of Australians don't feel prepared to get behind the wheel. Good advice from Trent. Just sit in the driveway for a couple of hours and test out all the bits and bobs. If anyone's got an EV that they want to tell us about their experience, how did you go? Was it difficult to change from the muscle memory, the creature of habit that you were in a traditional petrol or diesel car into something that all of a sudden has one pedal driving, has instant acceleration, and a whole new set of technology that you need to learn. You can share that story with.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: Us if you wish five double a afternoons with Leep Forest deb On.
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Speaker 3: The text said, just in terms of the cost of skydiving, all at COSTU is a new pair of honeies. I didn't find it to be honest, that frightening skydiving, because again, you do have someone attached to your back, so you feel they don't want to die, so you're not going to die. However I would, and anyone else who's bungee jump can attest to this. Al sure, there is a brief second when you jump off the platform bungee jumping on your own, where the only thing attaching you to the bungee cord is the clip on your ankles. There is a split second where you think this might be it because I am free falling and let's hope that the carnie clipped it right. But certainly no, I didn't feel ever once frightened skot diving. It's well worth checking out. It'd be fun if you're a lover of the Barossa to do it at one of the wineries, or if you can do it at good they offer it as semifore two. So plenty of places for you to jump out of the plane here in Adelaide, and Ann said talking about the nurses getting treated rough by the patients, can understand why not keen to be nurses. Many in the age care couldn't safely stop a little old lady, you remember, getting around with the knife and the police tasted her. The lady fell and she died. I mean it's possible that some are there or family.
01:00:51
Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: It was very sad. So yeah, it's a certain concern. I mean, we have a shortage of health professionals now, so if they don't fix up the situation with the violence in our HKA facilities and hospitals, then you can imagine, as Elizabeth de Barr said, that there will be a mass shortage going ahead. Before headlines, Alan's going to speak to us on EV's Hello Allen.
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Speaker 7: Yes, good morning, I got up. Yeah, it just interested that this is your last caller in regards to these new elected cars. And I've all that because when you started driving, when back in the day when you still learn driving, you to have a driving instructor. Did you teach you to drive a vehicle? Yes, maybe there could be an opportunity for people that may be available to teach people how to drive the EV.
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Speaker 3: That's a great point, like a wea coy that. That's one hundred percent right, isn't it? Alan Because you get into a car as a youngster with a driving instructor, whether you're driving stick or you had to learn how to drive a manual and you're taught, but you get a brand new car with brand new technology and you meant to fin for it yourself.
01:01:56
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good point. I reckon they should some I should come up with something like that million dollar idea set up driving school for EV.
01:02:05
Speaker 3: I'm sure there is a business there. I wonder if they offer that at the dealers. Now, if you buy an electric.
01:02:10
Speaker 7: Vehicle, what I'll sell it to here?
01:02:13
Speaker 3: That's right by get out the door and then you're loaning like mad trap and.
01:02:17
Speaker 7: Enjoyed, enjoy the future with your car. Yeah. My brother, my brother just brought his YEP ever and I'm sure he's a bet you mind it?
01:02:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing. Good idea. Allan, thank you for that, Mark, one of the Adelaide thinkers, Alan from Henley Beach, Mark from Angelvar. I've got a thought on the EV's before headlines.
01:02:37
Speaker 15: After you bought your EV and the battery doesn't work anymore, how much does it cost for another one?
01:02:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point too. Don't know, I'm not sure I never had one. Is it expensive?
01:02:50
Speaker 15: I believe it's ridiculously expensive. Like your solar house batteries they last for ten years? Then ye, yeah, you've got to get out of this solar and battery stuff because it's just costing us more and more money. Well to wait for the data sends to kick in and South Australia and there's no water left in the Murray because my data center's used so much.
01:03:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't you think it's good to go at least a hybrid model where you can be good for the environment and still have the security of petrol.
01:03:22
Speaker 15: Why don't we continue building cars in Australia?
01:03:26
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's true. Unfortunately all manufacturing's gone from this country though.
01:03:31
Speaker 15: How well we've only got one people to play for that.
01:03:36
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know what do you do? Mark? Unfortunately, it's offered elsewhere, and it's offered a lot cheaper. So business care about shareholders and profits more than they care about the workers necessarily in this case. So it's not just automotive, but every manufacturing went right across the board. So thank you for that, though appreciate it. Madeline did some work for me. Mark out of warranty batteries are between six thousand and twenty thousand Australian, that is via compare the market. So yeah, that is an expensive battery. Albeit you know what would it cost you to get your car service regularly for how long is the battery life? Ten fifteen years? Maybe it's not quite ten grand, but twenty thousand. Rather, there you go. Well, if the government gets their way, all of us will be driving electric vehicles. That's what we talked about with Trent of recent time. There are some that you can't even get into the country. They're making it a bit more difficult because they're trying to push you into that area, which people don't like. He's always a great chat Trent Nikolick. He's always up with the divisive issues of automotive. We're going to take a break two thirty headlines with mel I hope you can stick around, because next we'll check in with the weather Bureau get the official details on today and always fun talking travel. Peter Williams is here from.
01:04:55
Speaker 1: PhD five double a afternoons with Leaf for us.
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Speaker 3: We talk travel in just one moment with PHT at twenty eight to three. Let's check in first with the weather Bureau get all the numbers for today. Angus Shines joins us from the bureau. Lovely to have you on Angus Afternoonly, how we go, very good? Thank you. What are we seeing numbers wise on this Tuesday afternoon.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, at the moment, not too bad to be honest. In maketure of sunshine and cloud moving through. Getting a bit cloudy a day as we pushed towards the end of the day. Currently fourteen point nine degrees in the city there at the moment fifteen point six out of the airport. We're generally seeing high fourteens across most of our suburbs around Parafield no longer. That's sort of fourteen and a half to fifteen degree range. It is a little gusty though, wins through the city at the moment twenty five k's an hour is that average speed, But we're seeing those gusts up into the forties, so people probably getting out, you know, just pushed around a little bit if you're out in exposed spots at the moment. No rain so far today, but that could change a little bit later on in the picture.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So for the week, are we staying around the mid to high teens.
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Speaker 16: We are?
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Speaker 2: We are?
01:05:56
Speaker 16: Yeah, temperatures really not budging at all for the next several days. We've got fifth steens and sixteens is our maximums Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, as we put it, for the weekend, a bit of an early sinus, the slightly warmer conditions kicking in. We're sort of between seventeen and nineteen by the time the weekend rolls around. But the next several days those temperatures aren't budging. Our overnight minimum temperatures also staying pretty static. We're looking to drop down to about eight or nine degrees each of the next three or four nights, including tonight, temperature wise, not.
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Speaker 3: A big shift, not a lot. Fifteen degrees at the moment feels like seven. We're about to talk travel angus. Where in New Zealand are you from Yeah.
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Speaker 16: Well done, picked up, picked up on that one. Good on you.
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Speaker 3: I'm from Wellington, Ah, Wellington.
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Speaker 16: Wellington exactly so honestly, forty kilometer in our gusts, not much to me.
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Speaker 3: See, when you're part of a New Zealand family, you just pick up the occasional word. You go, okay, that's a bit of kio ky we blood that well don't angus, Thank you, We'll speak to you tomorrow. Yeah, all the best angus. Heins from the weather Bureau. So afresh. It feels like seven degrees at the moment, but staying in the mid high teams for the rest of the week.
01:07:01
Speaker 14: Five double a travel talk thanks to Phil Hoffman travel for over thirty years, creating moments you'll never forget.
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Speaker 3: Spot Wellington. I love cold, cold, cold and off and windy. Yes he is one of Williams. Is he managing director? See good spot though, like you get up on the hill and they got that little train thing.
01:07:20
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's got a little coffee culture.
01:07:22
Speaker 2: It's got some great wine over.
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Speaker 3: There in the stadium where they played the soccer and the sport there like the little Talet bowl there.
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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. All accessible to the city. So yeah, it's a great replace.
01:07:31
Speaker 3: Just a little squirt right across the ditch. Why would you show in New Zealand? Welcome, lovely to see you. How was Perth? You're away on some work?
01:07:38
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, we run a big event over there as well now, so big World travel fest over there. So yeah, it was fantastic and had the team over there. We we tooked about twenty five of our team from SA, but we've now got a base over there, so we've got six staff over there.
01:07:53
Speaker 3: Excellent and like what we see here at the communiers over there.
01:07:56
Speaker 18: Correct, Yeah, so just a slightly smaller versions. We've only been over there just over twelve months, but yeah, that's fantastic and great bookings, very positive.
01:08:04
Speaker 3: So yeah it was good, excellent, Well, welcome back, thank you. You didn't miss a lot weather wise, No, just a monsoon, an apocalyptic monsoon.
01:08:11
Speaker 18: No, I did hear that it was pretty average here. I must say it wasn't much better in Perth. So I think it's all over Australia. There's rain everywhere.
01:08:19
Speaker 2: But it was even cold in Perth. It should never be cold in Perth.
01:08:22
Speaker 3: But I think it ever gets cold. This is why they've got to get into PhD you find their sun. Where are we going around the world. We are seeing more Australians book holidays closer to departure.
01:08:31
Speaker 18: It's a funny thing. There's a bit of a pattern going on at the moment. People are either booking a really long time in advance, and that's mainly for cruising, because if you want to get the right cabin at the right time, you kind of good book twelve months in advance, or a lot of people are just going, you know, I just need to get away from this cold weather. Let's go to Bali, Let's go to Thailand, Let's go to Vietnam. So we're kind of seeing a bit of a pattern at the moment that it's either really late or really early.
01:08:55
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's interesting. Is the impulse by I've got some time, let's go now.
01:09:00
Speaker 18: You know, they read the Escape or they listen to us here on five double A and they go, yeah, I'm ready to go.
01:09:06
Speaker 3: And I guess there's benefits for both and that if you do have the great lag time, as you say, you definitely don't miss out. You've also got something to look forward to. On the flip side, if you can afford it, if you get a good deal, why would you not sneak away for a little bit.
01:09:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what happens, Leith.
01:09:20
Speaker 18: There's a lot of our customers that they've actually got two bookings on the go at any one time now, So yeah, they've got one though for grider bands, and then they hold off and they see a good deal and they go, yep, let's go. There's a two for one deal, or there's a thirty percent off offer. Yep, we're ready to go.
01:09:33
Speaker 3: How good is that?
01:09:34
Speaker 2: Pack the bags and you've got both off to the airport.
01:09:37
Speaker 3: You've also been the announcer as a finalist for the most Outstanding Branded Leisure Travel Agency. This is nice here in the double digits for this alienable digits.
01:09:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really proud of the team. We've won this award thirteen times, Leith.
01:09:49
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:09:49
Speaker 18: I think the award's been going for just under thirty years, so on regularly every second year we've been winning it and we've just been announced to finalists for next year. So it's a real celebration for the team because they do work hard.
01:10:01
Speaker 2: They work really really hard.
01:10:02
Speaker 18: They're professional, they look after you know, a lot of clients and you know, they create dreams for them and I think when they get nominated, and you know, when we're lucky enough to win, it's a great celebration head office because you know they've done.
01:10:15
Speaker 2: A great job.
01:10:16
Speaker 3: When you think too national, so punching out our weight. South Australia were the big hitters in the Eastern States. So well done, that's right.
01:10:22
Speaker 18: Yeah, we against all the all the big brands out there, and I think we stack up really well. Our personalized services is what we're known for, and I think these days, I was just saying to the team the other day that no longer can we say that we hold all the knowledge we know. You know, there's AI and everyone's googling stuff and things like that, and some of it's really good. It does take a lot of fact checking and you know, our guys have got all the personal knowledge there to add to that. But I think it's that before sales and very importantly the after sales care is what we're known for, and that duty of care is critical when things go wrong, and we saw that with the Middle East situation, you know where our team all jumped in on the Sunday sorted everyone out for the next month and everyone was happy.
01:11:04
Speaker 2: Now you can't get that on AI.
01:11:06
Speaker 18: So that's that's where I think our strength is now in that.
01:11:11
Speaker 2: Of course we've got great knowledge.
01:11:13
Speaker 18: You know, my team did three hundred international trips last year, but we also understand the AI is here and we will compliment that and that will complement what we do. But no one will be able to fix the problems like we do.
01:11:25
Speaker 3: Like a human being, you want to work in tandem, don't you. But I know that if something goes wrong overseas, I'd much rather be speaking to one of your staff than chat GPT. So I've got a bit more faith than that. I think, so well done. So one of the.
01:11:38
Speaker 18: Awards, So we put in a submission the other day with us to put our submission in, I think they'll announce the awards probably, you know, another month or two fingers crossed. They go through a process. I get interviewed, there's a bit of a panel and we'll see where it's.
01:11:54
Speaker 3: Let's go fourteen before we speak to our very special guests. Alex Oakley's going to join us from Cunard, which is one of the much loved brands, isn't it of travel fantastic.
01:12:06
Speaker 18: Yes, And I was on Queen Anne with Alex about eighty months ago for its launch and that was very exciting, So no doubt we'll talk about that. But the cruising is so popular right across all the brands. Cunard is one of those it just seems everlasting.
01:12:20
Speaker 2: It's royal, it's it's.
01:12:21
Speaker 18: It's British, it's it's a bit special. It's got its own little lane that we that we just love promoting. And I know my sister she's booked her third trip on her. She only started cruising on Cunado about two or three years ago. She won't look at another line now. She just goes yep, that's for me, yeah.
01:12:38
Speaker 2: Which is terrific.
01:12:39
Speaker 3: We had one of our regular callers, Wesley. He would only go on the Couonard ships and then bounce around the ones. And you're right because it's not it's not the ship with necessarily the sky diving and the wave of riding and that kind of stuff. It's great food and great libraries and great spots. Yeah all that.
01:12:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, Silver ser Yeah, that pretty service.
01:12:59
Speaker 18: The White Club, that's the cucumber morning sandwiches for morning tea. Exceptional dining exceptional, you know, and so we'll touch base with Alex on that. But look, cruisy cruising has just it's going through such a boon at the moment. And as I was saying to the presentations over in Perth, it was yesterday actually, I was just saying, you know what, there's a cruise for everyone. It doesn't matter whether you you know, it's the biggest ship in the world, or it's a fun ship, or it's a smaller ship that's discovering the Antarctic.
01:13:31
Speaker 2: There's always going to be a ship for someone. And a lot of.
01:13:33
Speaker 18: Our holidays these days, in fact, fifty to se of them have a cruise component to it.
01:13:37
Speaker 2: It's never the whole holiday, will.
01:13:39
Speaker 18: Very rarely is it the whole holiday. But it's part of your holiday. It's part of that mix. And you know, people that are going to Europe, then they they're packing unpacking every couple of days and they go, you know what, how about we float around the med for ten days or fourteen days?
01:13:52
Speaker 2: Fantastic? Right, You just you can take a breath back and you can relet.
01:13:55
Speaker 18: Similarly, when we do our Candre Alaska, you know we've got fourteen days of touring, but then we have seven it's cruising through Alaska. So it always compliments your I guess you're touring, or your villa stay or the busier party a holiday with that relaxed part.
01:14:09
Speaker 3: So you can imagine your clients and the people who cruise are choosing it for all of those reasons are like grave value. It's all inclusive in that you get your food and all of that kind of stuff.
01:14:18
Speaker 2: Exceptional value.
01:14:19
Speaker 18: Exceptional value at the moment because we all know the costs have increased substantially for food, drinks, entertainment, inflations, just blowing that out. So if you can get a fixed cost on your cruise where that's all included, you know your budget straight away, and they're buying it in bulk, so at the end of the day they're going to buy a lot a lot cheaper than what we're going to as well. So look, you know, I love cruising. I've my kids have grown up cruising. I've done you know, hundreds of cruising, and I just think there's a cruise for everyone.
01:14:48
Speaker 3: And even the you know, talking about New Zealand before, like the complete experience of it. So we're on the ship, you get off at a port, you get back on you go to the next place, as opposed to getting a.
01:14:58
Speaker 2: Car or floating hotel.
01:15:00
Speaker 18: Yeah, so yeah, you unpack once and basically your hotel is going to move around and someday, you know, day at sea, which is awesome.
01:15:06
Speaker 2: I love a good day at sea sitting by the pool.
01:15:08
Speaker 3: So do you love a challenge? When someone comes to you and they go, cruising is not for me, You're like, no challenge, found the right.
01:15:14
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite conversations.
01:15:15
Speaker 18: And it happens quite a bit, you know, with the with the non cruiser, who I wouldn't like it?
01:15:20
Speaker 2: Oh, you know that's too big, too small.
01:15:22
Speaker 18: I'm going to get bored. You know, that's that's the best one. I'm going to get bored. Really, So you don't like, you know, different venues, different bars, different restaurants.
01:15:33
Speaker 2: Broadway shows, you know.
01:15:35
Speaker 18: And then the bonus is you're in a different city each day or every second day.
01:15:38
Speaker 3: Do you know the other thing that I always having cruise now with you guys, A couple of times when you hear the number of people that are on the ship, and yet it's not you're not crammed. It's not like those trains you're seeing in India, you know, like you can move around and just not even see people that you know.
01:15:53
Speaker 2: Not at all.
01:15:54
Speaker 18: And I might have mentioned a couple of weeks ago, but I just recently back from cruising on the biggest, biggest ship ever, the Legend of the Sea's Royal Caribbean, and it takes seven thousand people.
01:16:03
Speaker 2: And I can understand some of the listeners going out there that's not for me.
01:16:06
Speaker 18: But the experience that I was talking people through was two fantastic experiences. One of them was called Hollywood Land and it was celebrating the silver screen of the fifties, and there was thirty two people that enjoyed that night out, you know, so I could have been in this little jazz bar in New York, for example. And then another one was we did this train experience, which is like the Oron Express, and I think there's forty.
01:16:30
Speaker 2: Two people that enjoyed that.
01:16:32
Speaker 18: We went through six different countries, with six different courses paired to every country you went through, you'd never know that you're on a large ship. And then at the opposite end of the scale, I'm about to head to Croatia and there's thirty six people on the ship that.
01:16:44
Speaker 2: I'm on just completely different. So yeah, literally that was the scale, right, amazing?
01:16:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, seven thousand, Yeah, that's millicent and a half. Well it's a village, right, It's a villaging, isn't it.
01:16:54
Speaker 18: But I think there's over thirty different restaurants on board.
01:16:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You know, choice to go wherever you want to go.
01:17:01
Speaker 3: You've got like your Rundel mall of restaurants and shopping, and then you've got your festival theater of shows and.
01:17:07
Speaker 18: Do you want to tee in tonight or do you want a burger or you know, the choices, and then you know, you get these Broadway soul shows that are just absolutely fabulous.
01:17:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:17:15
Speaker 3: So many artists I speak to now you look in their CV and they've all been on ships at some stage, like they've all done that. So well we're checking out. So there you go. There's a challenge for you. Go and see Peter or any of the team at phil Hop and Travel going with that question, I don't like cruising or there's no cruise for me, and see what the answer comes up. I bet there is one of the cruises that you might like to enjoy. As we were talking about brand recognition and love for Kunard. Commercial sales manager Australia New Zealand is Alex Oakley, joins us this afternoon. Welcome Alex.
01:17:44
Speaker 19: Oh, good afternoon gents.
01:17:46
Speaker 2: Hey Alex, Yeah, good mate, how are you?
01:17:49
Speaker 19: Oh like I've been better? To be honest, Peter, I've been better. I thought it would be a good idea to accept the last minute call up to the city to surf run in Sydney on Sunday. And I haven't run for about a year and I can barely walk two days later Alan around the office. But apart from that, I'm pretty good.
01:18:05
Speaker 2: Come on, I thought you would have learned by that by now that that's no good for you.
01:18:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I'll ever learn cruise to recover there, Alex.
01:18:14
Speaker 19: I do indeed, indeed, Alex.
01:18:17
Speaker 18: We we shared a great experience and what was it eight months ago on quinnin Yes.
01:18:23
Speaker 19: Yeah, it would have been yeah, yeah, the spiritual home of Liverpool and up in Edinburgh.
01:18:27
Speaker 2: Heal, fantastic, health, fantastic that was.
01:18:30
Speaker 18: Look, there'll be some listeners out there that that probably don't know a lot about Kunhar, would you, you know, maybe just give us a bit.
01:18:36
Speaker 2: Of a summary on why you're a bit different and a little bit about Cunard.
01:18:41
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean in terms of Cunard, we've got such a rich history and heritage as one hundred and eighty five years worth of history of the brand. I think for anyone that's maybe never sailed before, if you said picture of a cruise ship, what they'd happened in their head is probably an image of one of our ships, you know, with the red and black funnels and so I think they're pretty iconic. And we certainly lean into that history and heritage that we've got with the brand there and we'll be well known for you know, there's things like the uniforms on board for the bell hops that wear the bright red uniform and carrier luggets and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's a pretty pretty iconic brand I think for guests that haven't settled with us before.
01:19:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt it's it's a very unique brand.
01:19:24
Speaker 18: I don't think there's another cruise brand anything like Cuonard, and I guess where that leads is once you've cruised on Coonard and most people just love that experience, you'd have to have a massive repeat factor, and the loyalty to your brand is exceptional.
01:19:40
Speaker 19: Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean I suppose we're really lucky in a way because I mean there's so many good cruise lines these days, right, and everyone offers tremendous service and does really good food and restaurants and on board. But something that you can't really buy is that kind of history and heritage, right, which you know, we've we've been practicing for such a long time that you can just feel.
01:20:01
Speaker 6: It when you step on board.
01:20:02
Speaker 19: It's embedded into the walls. I think when you walk around the ship, isn't it big?
01:20:06
Speaker 3: And there's a great Australian affinity with the brand too, isn't it? Is that the same I imagine all around the world Alex Yeah, definitely.
01:20:13
Speaker 19: Well, I mean there's a lot of you know, British ex paths and descendants and ex pats that live in Australia now, and you know, we'd have that kind of affinity with maybe their grandparents or past generations that came over from the UK. So I think it really ties into that kind of factor, and we do invest a lot in this region as well. We've got three of our four Queens of Sailing to them from Sydney across twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, So we've got world voyage sectors that will be leaving here in Touch in Japan, Asia, the America's, Europe, even South Africa. So yeah, we've got a really tangible commitment to Australian New Zoo and guests and it just shows with the amount of affinity we've built with the travelers too.
01:20:54
Speaker 18: I think that's fantastic when the ships do come down to Australia, really is an opportunity to show the brand for people to jump on, you know, maybe a shorter sector, a bit closer to home. One of the things that really got me though was that that the history and you mentioned it before, and when we were lucky enough to be up in Liverpool, you know, we went to the library slash of the museum where you know, where the history was all on show for Kunard there it really blew me away and it does give you that sense of history and sense of heritage.
01:21:24
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's incredible, isn't it. I mean, certainly for anyone that might find themselves in Liverpool, either on one of our ships or you know, just on their own holiday, I'd definitely recommend trying to get along to the Qunard Museum or the archives if you can. I mean, it's quite incredible that we were looking at the dinner menu from nineteen oh.
01:21:41
Speaker 2: Seven and some of the passages that were on board as well.
01:21:47
Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely amazing. You know, we've got such a history of royals and celebrities and entertainers and artists. Yeah, we've really leaned into that cultural factor over the years.
01:21:57
Speaker 18: I think, And now there's a historic moment coming up in twenty twenty eight, Alex, would you like to tell us about that?
01:22:05
Speaker 19: Yes, indeed. So for the very first time in qune Art's history, we're going to have all four of our ships, so Queen Mary two, Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Anne, and they're going to be meeting together in our spiritual home of Liverpool. So it's going to be a bit of Before Queen's Rendezvous celebration. That's the genuine first for us, which is quite remarkable, just even the logistics getting four ships into the River Mersey there, it's going to be exceptional to watch. So very excited for that one.
01:22:33
Speaker 18: That'll be a world class event, you know, I just imagine being against just watching.
01:22:38
Speaker 2: That happen, it'll be incredible.
01:22:40
Speaker 18: But you've also got some voyages where you can really kind of bounce from from one ship to another during that period.
01:22:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we.
01:22:49
Speaker 19: Did have the big one that went on sale in May with our program release was what we call a Queen's Queen or a multi Queen package, which was all four of them. So that was with the Queen Nan Voyage joining the Liverpool celebration there. Now that package unfortunately heard how tremendously popular.
01:23:08
Speaker 18: That's been early. So we're talking about how sometimes you have to book really early with it. In that case, you had to book three years out.
01:23:19
Speaker 16: Yeah exactly.
01:23:19
Speaker 19: I mean, it's just been incredible the response that we've had for that. But I mean it's not the only the only multi Queen's package that we have available. So we have you know, lots of your your team PhD or Phil Hoffman Traveler. Should they we'll be able to tell the guests about it, Pete. But we've actually got the Queen's Queen favor offering market right now. So on select Voyage, there's a voyages there's a temptence saving when you book you know two or more together, So best to speak to your local Phil Hoffman travel agent and there's an advisor on that one because it's only available through travel agents right now as well.
01:23:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic. So that's a great saving.
01:23:54
Speaker 18: Now, as far as ship's been different, you know, the Kunard line, you still to a certain send a bit of a like it's a class ship now, depending on the cabin that you purchase, it may depend on what restaurant you dine in.
01:24:10
Speaker 2: Is that that's still the case?
01:24:13
Speaker 7: Yeah, still the case.
01:24:13
Speaker 19: So you know, we have our Grill Suite, which is the epistome of sort of luxury. So we like to think so Queen's Gril guests will have the Queen's Could restaurant that they can dine in, and then we have Princess Grill Kiss that can dine in the Princess Girl restaurant and Brittannia Club as well. So yeah, lots of different options on board. But you know, I mean that's not the only.
01:24:35
Speaker 16: Restaurants that we've got.
01:24:35
Speaker 19: We have some fantastic options on board all of our ships. You know, even things like being dining where they change the dining concept every couple of weeks. I still maintain it's that when the ship's come down to Australia, it's the best curry that you can get in all of Australia. The Coriander thing going.
01:24:53
Speaker 2: I think you're right and I reckon I tried that. It was fantastic.
01:24:56
Speaker 18: That's but that's what I love about Counard is that you've brought that contemporary flavor on board. You've still you've got that point to heritage with the different restaurants that are linked to your cabin, but you've also got so much choice as well, so you've got a nice blend between the heritage and the contemporary.
01:25:19
Speaker 19: Yes, definitely, definitely would agree with that.
01:25:22
Speaker 2: Fantastic Well, Alex, thank you mate.
01:25:24
Speaker 18: It's great to have you on the radio today, and I think people learn a lot about Kernard is certainly one of our favorite cruise lines and some of the deals that we've got going at the moment. If you're often travel callers need to give us a buzz and we'll look after him.
01:25:39
Speaker 19: Yeah, guys, thank you so much for having me and I really appreciate it. And yeah, good often untill we your listeners as well and get yourselves done. And to Phil Hoffman Traveling and put your next cruise with us.
01:25:48
Speaker 3: Thanks Alex, appreciate your time with stuff.
01:25:50
Speaker 7: None thanks guys.
01:25:51
Speaker 3: Thank Commercial Sales Manager Australia and New Zealand Alex Oakley from Kernard. He is right in that when people have an idea in their mind, if they've seen movies and television shows of what cruising is, it's probably Kurnat.
01:26:04
Speaker 18: It is because it's they're a real cruise liner. Yes, they're built to move them around the oceans quickly. They're they're faster than most other ships that have been built. And when you're doing the trans Atlantic, the q M two and before that the Q two very famous in doing the Transatlantic between New York and Southampton. Yes, and that see can get a bit choppy, and so what these ships are designed for is to cut through those waves. So their hull was designed very different. So let's say the resort base ships that might be floating around the Mediterranean or the Caribbean. And so it is a different style of cruising as well, which is great. And it is a little more formal, you know, and people love that, you know, that's it's it's appointed to the past rather than people walking around, you know, in their t shirts and their their thongs and whatever it is. You know, they encourage you to dress up at nighttime. Still informal during the day and casual and comfortable, but at night time people dress up a little bit more and the gentleman might put a jacket on and the ladies a frock. And I think it's really nice.
01:27:09
Speaker 6: It is.
01:27:10
Speaker 3: It's a nod to the past, but it's in all the mod cons of the the President.
01:27:14
Speaker 2: It feels very special.
01:27:16
Speaker 18: I was when I was on there with Alex on Queen and eighteen months ago. What I did discover and I don't mind a little tipple of this, is they make their own gin. Yes, So there was these couple of lads we went and visited, visited their distillery and I.
01:27:30
Speaker 2: Think one was a Naisy and one was a Kiwi.
01:27:32
Speaker 18: And in conjunction with Kona, they now have the Queen Anne gin and the Queen and it was lovely.
01:27:40
Speaker 3: People have a great affinity to for the royal family, so anything related to that, yes, they'll be in. So I'm sure there's a lot of times that like to bounce around the queens.
01:27:47
Speaker 18: And the decors on board is very royal like it is beautiful, deep deep colors, so beautiful mahogany timber, and you've got reds and royal blues and it really is quite striking when you get on board. And as Alex was saying, all the staff dress up beautifully. You know that the bell hops and things like that.
01:28:05
Speaker 3: So starting a koona chip, ask about at Phil Hoffman Travel before we find out the events that you got on interesting text from Matt on our line. He says, Peter, there are companies, are there companies that charge a small to no single supplement? And if so, who I'm doing a Queen Mary Crossing Caribbean trip over Christmas. Couldn't get a rare single room, paid the double for the room, and I get it, I'm taking up the double capacity. But I'd honestly consider other companies that don't charge or charge very little single supplement. That's Matt from o'halla and hill hit here.
01:28:39
Speaker 2: There's a lot a single statement, you do, Matt, was it? Matt yep? Yeah?
01:28:43
Speaker 18: So Matt, great, great question mate, And yes absolutely there are cruise lines now that are building so that on some of their new builds now solo cabins, so they're a little smaller they're probably only about three quarters of the size they come with, not a single bed, but like a decent sized bed. You know, it's a bit bigger than a single bed, and the charge is much more competitive than charging double, which is traditionally what happens to unfortunately.
01:29:10
Speaker 2: The solo traveler.
01:29:11
Speaker 18: So there's a couple of brands out there, and all you need to do is give us a buzz and fantastic that you're doing the kunard and you're going to love that experience.
01:29:18
Speaker 2: I understand that you've had to pay more for it, but yeah, for sure, give us a buzz.
01:29:24
Speaker 18: And even with kuon ad every now and then, if you book early enough, they have deals on for solo travelers where you won't be paying double supplement.
01:29:31
Speaker 3: Well the rare single room as we heard, like if cruisers are out already for twenty eight. Yeah, you're gonna have to get in early, don't.
01:29:39
Speaker 18: Yeah, we're selling well into twenty eight now, which is incredible.
01:29:42
Speaker 2: So yeah, two and a half three years ahead.
01:29:44
Speaker 3: Last week in your absence, when Darien was here, we were talking about Wendy Wu. Oh you've got some big Wendy Wu events coming up very shortly where people can discover the Wonders of Asia.
01:29:54
Speaker 18: Yeah, so just before I go through the dates on that, Wendy Wo do specialize all through the orients. Southeast Asia. An area where we're selling a huge amount of Wendy Woo now is Japan, also into Korea. South Korea is becoming really popular, and I think South Korea Leith is becoming popular because Japan has been just over the last five years, everyone's been going to Japan.
01:30:18
Speaker 2: They want that.
01:30:19
Speaker 18: Similar experience, but they want to go somewhere new, and South Korea is offering that very very unique and its food, it's culture, etc. Very safe, very clean like Japan. So people going Yep, that's a bit of a new destination for us. But of course we'll be promoting Japan, we'll be promoting China. A lot of people heading back to China.
01:30:39
Speaker 2: Now.
01:30:39
Speaker 18: I just had it made up there and he sent me a photo from the Great Wall Tenement Square, So Vietnam.
01:30:46
Speaker 2: All these places that are so popular at.
01:30:48
Speaker 18: The moment Wendy Wo specialize in. So we've got these presentations all throughout the state. So from Monday to twenty fourth of August, all the way through to Thursday twenty seven August we're in Walkerville where Everston we're Glenelgam also at semipols. Just jump onto PhD dot com and to be able to come to one of those evening.
01:31:05
Speaker 3: Sessions and they are free, but best to put your name down you get a rough idea.
01:31:10
Speaker 18: Yes, well, some of them sell out, so we have limited capacity at some of them. Look, you know, down our head office we can take you know, one hundred and thirty, one hundred and forty, but you know the function center at Everson's you know maybe thirty or forty people.
01:31:21
Speaker 2: So you do need to book for these absolutely.
01:31:23
Speaker 3: And then mid September. We talked about Silversea last year when you know the luxury I think the prize was Silversea, was it? So you've got one of those couple of a couple of events coming up on the Wednesday too, West Beach.
01:31:34
Speaker 2: Yes we have.
01:31:35
Speaker 18: So Silversea is ultra luxury, the smaller to mid size ships and fantastic. I did a cruiz Lisbon to Barcelona a couple of years on this and you want for nothing, you want caveat, you want French champagne.
01:31:47
Speaker 2: It's all yours.
01:31:47
Speaker 18: So mid September for these ones so we've got Wednesday, the sixteenth September down at West Beach and we'll have the I'm pretty sure we've got the captain, one of the captains coming down, yeah, which would be great. So we've got a day and an evening session leads. So so for those people that want to rug up at nighttime, you can come down at ten o'clock in the morning.
01:32:07
Speaker 3: Bookmarket on your Internet Explorer. Just bookmark PHT dot com dot you always have a look at what the events are coming up and then you can work out which one you want to go to. Wendy Woo through the late part of August and then mid September with silver S. Great to see you, Thanks, thank you for coming in. We'll see you again next week. Peter Williams from Phil Hopman, travel Managing Director and CEO. Remember there is a PhD glenelg Norwood, Modbury Hyde Park, Semiphore Sterling, Victor Barossa Gawler and of course the corporate team doing some great work PhD dot com. You and if you've got a question about travel now we'll take it off air for the next half hour. Eight double two three, double O, double.
01:32:42
Speaker 1: Five five double A afternoons with Lee Forrest.
01:32:47
Speaker 3: Six minutes after three. Thank you for tuning in on this Tuesday afternoon. If you'd like to join us at any stage, you're welcome to eight double two three double O, double O. Kim Wilde is going to join us this hour. Legendary English pop singer from the eighties and the nineties. She'll be here in Adelaide later this year. We'll speak to her, and if you want to tune into our live stream, Facebook and YouTube, you can do that now too, because you were in for a treat and a thrill. Because our next guest is joining us all the way from Greece. He is an internationally recognized artist. He's a contemporary Greek mural artist. His work name, if you like, or his artist's name, is Schizophrenis. His real name is Costas, and he joins us. Lovely to see you. Welcome to Australia and to Adelaide. Thank you for being here.
01:33:31
Speaker 20: I'm so grateful to be here. Nice to fangel. Other lady is amazed, amazing, bless Yeah.
01:33:37
Speaker 3: You and I have just been talking off air. You haven't been here long, just a bit of time now doing the.
01:33:43
Speaker 20: Week twenty five days yet yeah, I'm going to be like four six days more and then I'm leaving back. I'm going back to Greece.
01:33:49
Speaker 3: I get the sense you're coming back to see us though. You love this place because I like it here. Yes, So let's talk about how we got you, How we got this internationally acclaimed artist in to Adaly.
01:34:00
Speaker 20: Well back in May, I've met with one of the founders of Equals Foundation that you have here. She comes from my town, Kalamata yep. Kalamata is the capital of southwest the region of Messinia and Greece in the Peloponnese. So we've met almost by accident, because she was watching my art in the walls around the city and all over Greece, because I have pained all over Greece. So when she explained to me who she was, where she comes from, and what she has made in her life and what is her heritage, I was inspired, and just by a joke, I said, you know, I would like to paint something, you know, because of that. You know, we have the same morals, the same principles. So I like to see that you have the willpower to impact, you know, things around you positively. So she said, you know, I can arrange that. So no for me, it's like if you can do it, come.
01:34:54
Speaker 3: So you made an Australian in Grace who sees your work in vach you too, Adelaide, Yes, and here you are. Yes, it's the stuff of movies. Is it nice? Yeah, it's excellent, so we should say too. Equals is an independent South Australian tertiary education provider that provides and promotes human potential through education. It's all about equity and access in human rights, meaningful community initiatives and partnerships. So the collaboration between yourself and Equals And now we get to enjoy your incredible artwork here in the city in Curry Street on the building there. So you've been here for four weeks almost yes. Yeah, So if people are watching our live stream on Facebook and YouTube, we can see some of your work here too. It's just exceptional. So do you want to talk us through the art that we are seeing here and that people will be able to see if they're not able to watch their live stream now when they're driving through Curry Street and you're working on the wall.
01:35:51
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:35:53
Speaker 20: One of the first things that came to my mind when they explain to me what Equals stands for and what they're doing here is that we should I should paint something about how people collaborate, the coexist. Yes, and through knowledge they elevate themselves. So humanity can be you know, positively be go higher through shared knowledge. But you need foundation institutions not to put you on rails to do that.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:36:21
Speaker 20: So when I came here, so I had the rough you know, the rough idea of what I want to do and want to paint. But I just wanted to wait to come here, go walk the streets of Adelaide, go inside the corridors of Equals, meeting the real students, the real faces, you know, the ones who participate in everyday life. Yes, and then perfect my designs and start working.
01:36:42
Speaker 2: This is what I did.
01:36:43
Speaker 20: So I had lots of outline, some sketches, but I implement a lot of things and took out other things that I plan to do in order to change some stuff.
01:36:53
Speaker 3: Is it easy because of pining on the side of a wall. You would have noticed around that life we've got so much right straight art. It's become really popular, I guess in the last ten fifteen years perhaps, But for us that have zero artistic ability. It's hard enough to pay it on a little canvas in front of you, let alone on the side of the wall. What's the process from sketch to building?
01:37:15
Speaker 20: Well, for me, I would sound like I'm exaggerating, but because I'm a self taught artist. I'm a farmer olive oil producer in southwest Greece, I have learned to do it by myself. So for me, as it goes bigger and bigger, it becomes way more easier for me. Right, So I can paint whatever I like. You give me five store building, I can do it in three days, you know, yep?
01:37:38
Speaker 2: So do you do?
01:37:39
Speaker 3: You sketch it out? You know?
01:37:41
Speaker 20: I am the probably one of the few that because I'm a self taught and I have a learned specific procedure, right, I don't, you know, put marks on the wall or something. I just take my Spiry card.
01:37:51
Speaker 3: And just do it. Wow, you do a freehand?
01:37:54
Speaker 2: Yes?
01:37:54
Speaker 3: Always fret and then we saw you say you're on the cherry picker too, so you're able to elevate yourself and then you can wow, well done, because I guess it would all be about scaling too. Do you have to get up paint a little bit, hop down, walk back and say sort.
01:38:08
Speaker 20: Of because we had the seizel lifts and not the boom lifts. The boom lift has the opportunity to take you back and forth, but yere, because there is an alley, we cannot go back and forth.
01:38:19
Speaker 1: So we.
01:38:21
Speaker 20: Chose to have the seazilor lifts. We are more stable. Yes, so I had to put my all my power to imagine how it's gonna be.
01:38:29
Speaker 3: So yeah, I succeeded. I think, well, absolutely, we're enjoying the videos. There are people that aren't watching, and now they can go back and have Facebook and YouTube and have a look at those. You've even come in dressed in paints, so it literally comes straight.
01:38:41
Speaker 20: I just finished my third mural in the middle of section of the building three story yep, which is the last one, and it's like I have half a day of work maybe tomorrow to finish some ground level things.
01:38:54
Speaker 3: What do you hope people get from you? Are like, again, I love I don't have an artistic bunny my body, but I appreciate it. You can appreciate the work and effort and the meanings behind it. I like to walk the streets of Adelaide, and there are some really great like Rundle Street has some great artwork through the city down some of the Alley's prospect Roading North Adelaide has some great street work. So what do you hope as the artist for us viewers and people that are Adelaidians to enjoy about it?
01:39:19
Speaker 20: First of all, I would like the work, you know, the passenger to understand that art is not just decorating walls. They always are always carries a message. Yes, if you don't get it now, you will get it eventually. So it's not about just putting color. Even so, even if you just put color in the wall, there's a motivation behind.
01:39:40
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:39:40
Speaker 20: So art always, you know, means something.
01:39:44
Speaker 3: Do you consider it a gift to the city because it is, I would think inadvertently through yourself and through equals.
01:39:50
Speaker 20: Because I have taken so much from the city of Adelaide. There's an environment that people who brought me here, the everyday people that have met, because everybody's very friendly, it's very helpful.
01:40:00
Speaker 8: M hm.
01:40:01
Speaker 20: I don't know if it's it is a gift, but also it is a gift for me as an experience. So Adelaide gives me back the whole experience. Have you the first time in Adelite, first time in Australia, Yes, really, the first time overseas, you know, I have done small trips around Europe and Greece, not that far. So what do you think as a great man here for the very first time? What are your impressions of Adelie?
01:40:21
Speaker 3: I love it.
01:40:22
Speaker 20: If I could stay more, I would and if I could stay come back over and over and over again, I pray for you. Know, well, let's hype. I love it here. You have great architecture, even the street art that exists here before me. It's very well thought felt. All the things here I have seen there is a great architecture, know everything. So how can I say somebody thinks very well before does something.
01:40:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, you plan everything very well. No, we do, indeed absolutely And don't you think it adds to the city like I think again, you get a little bit of out and a little bit of news.
01:40:57
Speaker 20: And exactly in terms of the buildings, the architect I see, you know, they're very harmonious. You know, how can I say much up of the old buildings and the new buildings. Yep, that is a you know, you see respectful people there. You know your good intentions. Yes, yes, I love that.
01:41:11
Speaker 3: My very special guest is International Artists Schizophrenis aka.
01:41:16
Speaker 2: Costas cost Us.
01:41:17
Speaker 3: Yes, who has painted on the side of the Equals building. This is in Curry Street, South Australian owned and operated business thirty five years. Equals has been around and as I say, it's all about tertiary education and human rights and equity and access. Like an incredible organized and organization here at ninety five Curry Street in the city. So this is your first ever visit, first ever artwork. But let's hope we can see see more. How do you go from an olive oil farmer to a renowned and acclaimed artist? Did you were you dabbling in that while you were farming and then thought, na this, I want to do this.
01:41:53
Speaker 20: My village is located very close to the famous seat of Sparta. Oh it's like half an hour from Sparta.
01:41:59
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:42:00
Speaker 20: My village on a valley. So as a small child I had I didn't have the opportunity no to leave my village. There was no internet back then, no other children to play, so I had to stay eight nine ten hours a day from six years old, just sketching so I can kill some time right with a money way, you know. So that made me you know, and the comic books. Became a first teacher, you know, spider Man, Batman. I used to buy comic books and observing, and I was teaching myself how to sketch. So but I have never know buy a spray can and do something. In the age of twenty three, a bit old, just by accident again, you know, somebody asked me would you paint something in this world in Calama?
01:42:41
Speaker 3: I said why not?
01:42:42
Speaker 20: I was so thrilled by the procedure and how people were captivated by color in large scale images. So I said I would go for it, just as I said to come here, you know, just go for you know, out of your comfort zone now or never.
01:42:54
Speaker 2: So I did it.
01:42:55
Speaker 20: So that's why I have never been in an art school. No, only by myself. Wow done, Yes, what a life. That's amazing.
01:43:02
Speaker 3: It's an amazing trajectory in sort of one of those things that people can take on board, that message of like living your dreams, doing what you want to do and live your dreams. Yes, yes, yes, amazing. Before we let you go, you know, we were just doing a travel segment before you came in tell us a little bit about your part of the world. There in great where you're from, I.
01:43:20
Speaker 20: Am from the region is called Messinia. It's southwest Greece. Yes, the capital is Kalamata. The town where I've met Katina Olives. Kalamata Olives, yes, exactly, the famous Calamata Olives. My villa. It's twenty five minutes southeast of Kalamata, close to Sparta. Right there is your between Kalamata and Sparta. It's called money has the best Kalamata Olives right as a variety.
01:43:45
Speaker 7: Yep.
01:43:45
Speaker 20: This is what I do. My family's work is having olive groves. This is what I'm doing from a small child, working in the olive groves. And but the last years I find myself, you know, more often to go around Greece because I ask the commission works excellent from from one point of Brits or the other.
01:44:04
Speaker 10: Yep.
01:44:04
Speaker 20: And in Europe, some parts of Europe.
01:44:06
Speaker 3: Do you know about the great connection that Australia and Greece has, Like we have a large Greek contingent here in Adelaide.
01:44:12
Speaker 20: I have made a lot of Greeks. Yeah, and they are very friends, very helpful. But also recently found out that the city of Adelaide is a part of sit of Adelaide's sister city with Kalamata.
01:44:22
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, so we've got a great Greek tradition here right across not only Adelaide, but right across Australia as well. I have visited Greece once, costas on my Oh we went to Athens on our honeymoon. I got to say, the best of laki I've ever had in my life. I'm going to go back just for the food, really very spoiled. Your food was amazing, but the history, you know, we and I mentioned to your fair at the bottom of the Acropolis, at the parthen On. There it was the greatest banana waffles I've ever had in my life.
01:44:52
Speaker 17: Really.
01:44:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's paradise there is it. Not beautiful in summer, gets a little hot sometimes, but beautiful part of the world. I can understand your no, we said, I agree to my eyes, and you're saying adlaie three yours like you're taken by.
01:45:05
Speaker 20: Even the food here, your food here, I like it a lot. Yes, the beer you know you have this sausage or nitchel, yes, yes, you don't have those in Greece. You don't have we have it, but yeah, no, I don't know why here I like it more.
01:45:18
Speaker 3: You know we have a good friend of the show from Kalimnos Pastries. Yeah, yes, so George there, he's a lovely he's trying to educate us on the food of grace, like all your beautiful desserts.
01:45:30
Speaker 20: And your library of taste is your market? Yes, amazing, lucky, you are so like you to have this kind of market. No, I went, I have been there ten times.
01:45:40
Speaker 2: I love it.
01:45:40
Speaker 3: You gotta take palma back. You're an adopted self, as say, you've only beeny for I cast.
01:45:44
Speaker 20: Myself and now led the last days not to respond with a nose ending. Have you run around the Torrents? That's a very like because I'm a runner. I am here like about twenty five days. I have run already thirteen or fourteen times.
01:45:57
Speaker 6: I have.
01:45:57
Speaker 20: I bought a lot of running shoes from here. So my bag ads one close. Now you're ticking every have you done, lofty? You gotta climb out Lofty. I went to Mount Loft because I used to be also a cyclist. Yeah yes, and everybody now it's hating me in Greece because I came to the most you know, cyclist town.
01:46:15
Speaker 3: Well see now I'm going to call you contemporary Greek slash Australian mural. You're ticking every box. You're one of us. Well, you gotta make sure you come back and visit us.
01:46:23
Speaker 20: So yes, yes, congratulations, very grateful to be here.
01:46:27
Speaker 3: Well, it's lovely to have you here. But I love the idea that an artist from across the world, just by a chance meeting, Yes, all of a sudden comes to our country, to our city and now shares your art.
01:46:37
Speaker 20: Well that brought me here, you told me before I come down. A coincidence, trust me. Know this is the biggest lesson you know. Maybe your faith brought you here, you know, because everything has thatned out wonderful.
01:46:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should think contain imagine if she didn't like your art, you wouldn't be here. But she loved your art. So yes, she's a lovely lady. It's full circle. Yes, lovely to meet you. Congratulations very much. So the artwork will be finished win When can we see.
01:47:01
Speaker 20: To finish?
01:47:02
Speaker 3: Almost done?
01:47:02
Speaker 20: Yes, someone has done yest.
01:47:04
Speaker 3: All right, so we will be able to see that. At ninety five Curry Street in the city, first ever artwork for schizophrenics aka Costas and you can see that folks on the side of the Equals building which is in Curry Street, so you'll be able to do that. Lovely to meet you. Welcome to Australian Congratulations. That's going to beautify our CBD even more your artwork, so we look forward to that. Now we know the meaning behind it because sometimes you drive or you walk through and you go, that's impressive. I wonder who did that? You never find out. Now we know, so thank you, enjoy your stay, hope we get to see you again. A hoops schizophrenis costUS my.
01:47:40
Speaker 1: Guest five double A Afternoons with Leeth Forest.
01:47:44
Speaker 3: Twenty five minutes after three, Matthew Bantelli sent me a text. During the chat with Costas, we're going to get Matthew. We've got to do an exchange, get pants to go to Greece. And he can paint, he can do stick figures. He's not quite as good as Costas is, but I love the fact that there is a a strange random meeting overseas and yet here he is now beautifying our city with street art, which is excellent. And as I say, if you're a fan of street art, it's actually a fun experience just to walk around the city, have a look down some of the little lane ways. There's plenty right through Rundle Street and the East end of Adelaide's my daughter and I enjoy doing this is like a little exercise at times. There's some beautiful ones down O'Connell Street in North Adelaide. Prospect Roads got some great street art through there. So here's another one for us to check out when Costa finishes in the next couple of days. Ninety five Curry Street in the city on the Equals building. That will be fun. Isn't a funny how the world can work. One minute you're a olive farmer and next minute you're painting walls in Australia. You just never know. Rita from Campbelltown on the Tech said, least regarding these shops, signages in Sydney not being written in English. Something I noticed in Adelaide the other day. I've seen two car registrations written only in Asian language. Nothing in English except for a couple of numbers. Can you speak to motor registration about it? Why is this allowed in the first place? It's interesting reta. I did not know that. So you're telling me that you can get license plates that aren't in English on our cars. All right, we will find out. Thanks so much, Marion says, I want to thank the dear friends at John Foolbrook's office. I didn't receive my enlarge print of the census. I believe the Holy Spirit wanted me to ring them, and they did my census online for me. No more worries. Hallelujah, God bless them and bless you. Good on you, Marian, thank you for that. We did endeavor to get someone from the Census organization on to talk about the census. They were a little busy, unfortunately, so we weren't able to do that. But hopefully everyone's been able to do their census get what they need. A lot of people have had some issues without Throughout the last couple of weeks, Mel's got headlines for us. At three point thirty, Kim Wilde, superstar of the eighties and the nineties, will join us. Just after that. You'll be able to see Kim on our Facebook and YouTube live stream. Just a reminder and to repeat and Mel will give you more in the headlines in just one second. But the Reserve Bank have opted to hold the cash rate. That's despite the cooling economy, Reserve Bank unanimously held fire today they've kept the bench cash rate at four point three five percent. So basically, if you've got a seven hundred and thirty four thousand dollars loan, you're getting basically three hundred and seventy dollars in monthly payments for assie's who've already been hit hard by the cost of living or was interesting to see that Koshi had some thoughts on this. He said the RBA hold is the right decision, but he did warn that Australian's already going into the bunker, So we'll see what happens from a financial point of view. Coming up. Just before we get to headlines. If I played you this song, would you know who the artist is? I'm sure you've all heard it. The song is called Tom's Diner. The person is Suzanne Vega and you can see Suzanne because she's coming to Adelaide on the twenty fourth of September at the Magnificent Theberdon Theater. It is Suzann Vega's Flying with Angels tour. If you would like to go show kicks off just after seven o'clock. First caller through eight double two three double ow, double five. We would love to send you off to see Suzanne Vega. She'll do Tom's Diner, she'll do Lucas, she'll do all of her hits. It will be a great night out. First caller through eight double two three double low double five. Headlines with Mel Next.
01:51:46
Speaker 1: Five double A afternoons with Lee Forest.
01:51:49
Speaker 3: So I saw that both the Crows and Porter over eighty thousand. Now, yeah, it's amazing, isn't it.
01:51:54
Speaker 13: I am an AFLW member well known for Port. I decided to get on board. I thought it was really amazing that the girls were allowed to play footy. Yeah, and I'm a Port supporter, so once they entered that competition, I decided to put my money where my mouth is and support them. So I'm a foundation member.
01:52:12
Speaker 3: Well done. Well, it's great too. In a cost of living crisis, you think, you know some people have got to cut back. Yeah, footy fans want to give back to their club and be invested, try and get some tickets. Well done.
01:52:22
Speaker 13: Yeah, and maybe one day we'll win a premiership. We haven't haven't done that yet.
01:52:26
Speaker 3: A little while well, they had the double header on Sunday, the Carlton Saint Kilda game before the Boys played later that night.
01:52:32
Speaker 13: So we did really well. Not last year, the year before, so hopefully, you know, hopefully this year, maybe maybe you.
01:52:39
Speaker 3: Might know the answer to this or have a thought on this. We were talking about the text message regarding the plates not being in English. Brett says, special Japanese car limited edition plates, perfectly legal. Tom says, they're international diplomatic plates.
01:52:56
Speaker 13: Special people have special plates.
01:52:57
Speaker 3: I've not seen. Have you ever seen an an international language license plate in Adelaide?
01:53:03
Speaker 13: No, But I remember, like going back to the late eighties nineties, every other car seemed to have a personalized number plate. There were so many of them. You know, you'd be driving around.
01:53:12
Speaker 3: And Chaz drive part Chaz.
01:53:15
Speaker 13: Fifty five or you know, live Dog or something. But maybe it's too expensive now to just register your car, so you're not going to actually go the whole hold and personalize it as well.
01:53:25
Speaker 3: I did think of you though today because I saw the license plate MJ. And I thought, oh, they got in. Because again, you know, if you're a Jordan fan or a Jackson fan, or an MJ. Gal fan, on social media, got to get in early. For those you don't see as many personalized plates anymore, I don't think.
01:53:41
Speaker 13: And remember, you could have them all in different colors as well, you know, you could have Barbie pink, or you could have all sorts of things. But maybe that ship has sailed. Maybe people spend their money in other ways now on their cars.
01:53:52
Speaker 3: I also think people know your name, so all of a sudden they yelling out at you because they're reading your license plate.
01:53:57
Speaker 2: Game.
01:53:57
Speaker 13: Some of them were so embarrassing. I mean, I remember, I understand if it's your business, you know, and you've got five double A one on the five double a car, Well that makes sense. But some of them were a little bit you know, sort of I think, geez, I wouldn't drive around with you know, I'm hot seventy five on my.
01:54:14
Speaker 3: We had a guy in Mellicent hand on hard I swear his license plate was nuts O two and that was his nickname Nuts because he just drove around. We had another one who was the Bandit, so they had like a bandit yeah license plate. Yeah, but then everyone just yells it out as you drive past. So you can't go incognito. You can't do something wrong on the roads because everyone goes ah nuts are speeding again, So it's probably an easy way for police to keep.
01:54:42
Speaker 13: It high on you that I said, I don't know what my red Joe is?
01:54:47
Speaker 2: Do you know?
01:54:48
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you know.
01:54:49
Speaker 13: I had to put it into a machine the other day when I parked in a certain place and I had to go back to my car and write it down. I had no idea what my own registration was.
01:54:59
Speaker 3: I do it where you to those where you take your tickets for the car? You know, you park on War Memorial and you've got to punch it into the thing. I'm the same. I got to take a photo of my car because I have no idea what it is.
01:55:11
Speaker 13: It's like mobile phone numbers these days. You don't used to know your friend's best number off by heart. But you don't know that anymore because you just hit a button. But didn't know what my own registration was.
01:55:20
Speaker 3: Maybe we need to come up with like a nut so too, Mel, that we can remember.
01:55:24
Speaker 13: Leaf door Allow.
01:55:26
Speaker 2: I'm not going left door.
01:55:27
Speaker 3: Mel, Thank you. Twenty four to four. Kim Wild's going to join us next.
01:55:32
Speaker 1: Five double a afternoons with Leaf Forest.
01:55:35
Speaker 2: What a thrill. This is well.
01:55:38
Speaker 3: They describe her as a UK pop icon, but I'm going to call her a global of icon. Kim Wild, the Great Kim Wild is coming back to Australia, coming back to Adelaide twenty fourth of November. At the gov She joins me for the closer to her. Lovely to see you, Kim, thank you for coming back to see us.
01:55:55
Speaker 21: Love it Leth can't wait to get back to us.
01:55:58
Speaker 3: You're more than just UK pop. I mean you were global. You're loved all parts of the world.
01:56:05
Speaker 21: Yes, I was. I like the word global. I like that word universally even might be love.
01:56:16
Speaker 3: Was there any part of the globe you didn't dominate with your music? Was there any part that you found it hard to break into where everyone loved the sound of Kim Wild?
01:56:24
Speaker 21: I think probably.
01:56:25
Speaker 22: Although we had a number one with You Keep Me Hanging On in America, the rest of my career didn't really translate over there, possibly because I just didn't spend very much or any hardly any time there. But you know, there's plenty of artists who from the UK had huge careers there.
01:56:45
Speaker 21: I'm just not one of them.
01:56:47
Speaker 3: Lee, I'm not sure about that and you think of kids in America one of the all time great songs too, how can they not embrace that? That's a banger.
01:56:54
Speaker 22: They did embrace that, and they embraced you know, like I say, you keep me hanging on with number one there. But you know, Leith, you know, I live in the UK and my career has predominantly been on this side of the pond, and I've really, I really appreciate that because that's you know, for me, that's less travel less airtime, less travel time. And you know that all those beautiful European cities that I've been part of my life, Hamburg, Berlin, Paris, Oslo, you know, just incredible, you know, Zurich, Geneva.
01:57:28
Speaker 14: You know.
01:57:28
Speaker 21: So I'm very grateful.
01:57:29
Speaker 22: And now, of course my other favorite territory, Australia are yes.
01:57:35
Speaker 3: And I know it's a long flight for you, but it's worth it, isn't it. When you come across you get to see how much the fans love it.
01:57:42
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was, of course it is and it's going to be even easier this time because it's a direct flight to Perth.
01:57:51
Speaker 3: That's nice. That's always the killer, the stopover is the killer. It's a long flight, but there's that little two hours between Sydney and Adelaide or Sydney and Melbourn, and you're just.
01:58:00
Speaker 22: Like, right now you have to grapes off and then they start spraying that stuff in the air in the airplane and then you kind of have to have your stuff with you and you're half asleep, and so this is gonna be great. I'm just going to get on a plane landing path, get myself together for a few days. I'm staying with some friends and then my first show is in Perth on my birthday on November the eighteenth.
01:58:23
Speaker 3: How nice is that? Well, I'm sure the good folk of Wa and Perth will look after you. We're thrilled to have you here on the twenty fourth, on the Tuesday night at the Magical Gove. It's interesting when you look at your career Kim, like thirty million plus albums, the most successful British female artist of the eighties. It's kind of it's kind of bonkers, isn't it, And you think, here we are forty years on. The music is as loved as ever. New generations are turned on to music and there's a real appeal to see you again and again and again.
01:58:54
Speaker 22: Well, yeah, I mean it's for me singing just it's more and more enjoyable. My voice seems to just get stronger and stronger. Physically, I think I'm as strong as I've ever been in my whole life.
01:59:11
Speaker 21: You know, I work very hard at at least.
01:59:13
Speaker 22: You know, I've got a personal trainer, and you know, I haven't drunk.
01:59:17
Speaker 21: Alcohol for about ten years.
01:59:20
Speaker 22: So I'm really very you know, I'm very dedicated to my career because it's it brings me so much joy, and we managed to bring so much joy to other people. It's a two way street.
01:59:34
Speaker 3: Well, you know, and last time you and I spoke, we talked about your gardening too and what that means to you. That's got to be good for your health, right You talk about that with people too, about what it does for your mental and physical health.
01:59:45
Speaker 21: Yeah.
01:59:45
Speaker 22: Absolutely, And you know I like to think that I'm a testament to that.
01:59:49
Speaker 21: Really.
01:59:51
Speaker 22: You know, I'm growing vegetables this year, not loads, but I'm growing some lots and lots of flowers.
01:59:58
Speaker 21: Look after my garden.
01:59:59
Speaker 22: It's every morning I go out and I walk in the grass to ground myself and I drink fresh herbal tea from my garden. I'm very connected to the natural world and it's been for the betterment of my health, both physical and mental.
02:00:16
Speaker 3: Well you like that? Have you always been like that? Like when you were coming through and you had Global Smash. At the Global Smash, did you live the rock style lifestyle or did you see ahead of time, ahead of the curve? Right? If I take care of myself, I get longevity in this career.
02:00:32
Speaker 22: Well, I didn't initially, you know, my twenties and thirties. I was the thing is, I worked so hard in my twenties that by the time I got to my thirties, I really kind of just let my hair down, and I got a bit excessive, if I'm honest with you, although I did it discreetly, but it was.
02:00:47
Speaker 21: A bit excessive.
02:00:50
Speaker 22: And then when I sort of got into my fifties, you know, of course, I had twenty years of being quite excessive. And then when I got into my fifties, I started having conversations with myself about, you know, how how that won't work if I want a career, And and then I did started doing you know, being more proactive, you know, and in between all that. Of course, I was having fun, getting married, getting divorced, having children, going through life and the usual.
02:01:15
Speaker 21: Chaos of of.
02:01:17
Speaker 22: Of wonderful stuff and terrible stuff and uh, you know, just a whole bit wow. And here I am a survivor. I know lots of people who survived much much worse than I have. You know, our life's been very kind to me, but we all have our own path to walk, and being part of nature has been a huge It's been one of my great allies.
02:01:41
Speaker 3: And you know, I look at the people who are touring Steel Kim, you know the likes of Sir Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen and Mick and Keith. You know, like if you the fact is selfishly for us, we want to keep seeing you. Whether it's every year, every couple of years, that's great. Is a fing Hopefully you get that enjoyment as a performer to still travel the world do it.
02:02:01
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, no, I mean when we stand in front of audiences nowadays, there is so much joy from us and from and from the audience. It is just incredible, really incredible. It's it's beautiful and I'm so excited every time I step on stage. It doesn't matter where I am, but Australia, you know, it's just just kind of got a bit of a chunk of me that never wants to leave and can't ever wait to get back.
02:02:28
Speaker 3: Well, we got that great connection I think the UK and US. Here in Australia you have some of the most infectious songs I think in the history of music. Do you ever find yourself randomly in a supermarket or walking around and one of your songs come on? Do you do you embrace that Kim Wild? Do you sing along with it? Or are you going, oh, this is a bit of this is my song?
02:02:49
Speaker 2: Or you just rip in?
02:02:52
Speaker 21: It depends what I'm looking like, leath.
02:02:53
Speaker 22: You know, if I'm looking really pretty and I put some lipstick on and my eyebraws, then I might not mind being not If I go in without those things, I might just be a little bit more disagreet about who I am in a supermarket. So you know, invariably someone will come up with a cat with a phone and say can we do a selfie? So I've got to be ready for those selfies because you can't turn those things down. I do hear my music sometimes and on the radio and in supermarkets and it's a great always a great honor.
02:03:27
Speaker 21: Was iway was considered it a great honor.
02:03:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that would be the I've spoken to actors before and they say, if they're flicking on the TV in their movie or TV show ups up, they don't watch it. But I would think if you've released kids in America and keep me hanging on, if I can't have you Cambodia view from a bridge, man, I'd be singing along all the time.
02:03:46
Speaker 22: Kim, Well, the thing is, I'm singing all the time anyway. I'm traveling constantly touring with my band. You know, we've just got back from Switzerland. We go to Germany next weekend. We've been in France and Denmark, and you know, we've been all over the place to share doing a lot of work and the UK of course. So I'm singing these songs all the time, So it's unlikely I'll want to be singing them well while I'm buying my.
02:04:14
Speaker 21: Greek yoga.
02:04:16
Speaker 3: It makes sense. The love affair continues. We're thrilled to have you come back and see us. So I think you and I spoke maybe a couple of years ago when you were here. We were thrilled to have you. Then we're even more thrilled that you're coming back now. So thank you for doing that for us. I know you could easily just say right, I'll rest up, you know, approaching Christmas time, feed on. But the fact that you're coming to see us and celebrate your birthday here is a joy.
02:04:37
Speaker 10: Yeah.
02:04:38
Speaker 22: Yeah, absolutely, Oh my god, I've got my new it's another interview.
02:04:43
Speaker 6: Go.
02:04:44
Speaker 3: Kim Wilde is hearing November twenty fourth of November. It's a Tuesday night folks at the govern You can get all the details at David Roywilliams dot com or Metropolisturing dot com. Kim, I'll let you go. Lovely to see you. Thanks for coming to see us. Thank you.
02:04:58
Speaker 21: Oh wait, stopped that, bye darlingly Thanks kids, Street Heart, Bye.
02:05:00
Speaker 1: Bye five double A Afternoons with Leip Forest.
02:05:05
Speaker 3: Portrait not too far away, s Roe t Ginev will speak to ROWI just before four o'clock. Find out what's on the big show. Andrew from Panong. Good day, Andrew know Andrew from Panong. He's dropped out. All right, we'll try and get to Andrew before we finish up. Julia said, Length, Love the interview with Debbie Gibson last week, Loving the interview with Kim Wild Today, love them both so Kim at an Eighties Extravaganza, Blinda Carlile, Human League, spend Out, Ballet Go West to name a few. Have I ever interviewed Belinda No?
02:05:36
Speaker 2: Julia?
02:05:37
Speaker 3: Sadly I haven't. So She's meant to be on the show a couple of times. Blinda Carlile, but her concerts in Adelaide have been canceled, so we haven't been able to get a hold of her unfortunately, but we would love to. She's one of the greats. And this one on the issue of the Japanese plate says Length. You'll see them on collectible Japanese cars like the dats and Toyota, performance cars like a Supra and this and GTR and I just saw here on the licensed registration website. The Madeline gave me two hundred and fifty dollars per year to get a license plate. Jan says, I saw a black BMW four drive that license plate read divorced, seen it many times around Adelaide. You'd be happy with that, wouldn't now? Thank you, Jan steven Rowe have you ever had a personalized license plate.
02:06:23
Speaker 17: No, not into that, No neither.
02:06:25
Speaker 3: You don't see it that often though, bit.
02:06:27
Speaker 17: You know, look at me, look at me, look at me. I'm not into that sort of stuff.
02:06:31
Speaker 3: You could have row What were your numbers of the Crows three thirty one?
02:06:34
Speaker 17: I started at thirty one, ended up at three row thirty one.
02:06:40
Speaker 3: Around and row thirty one. Although you know what kind of.
02:06:42
Speaker 17: Want to draw attention to yourself, do you know?
02:06:45
Speaker 3: Although, well, I remember the Crows boys when mobile phones first became really popular. They're able to get their footy numbers in their phone numbers.
02:06:54
Speaker 17: Oh well that's that. That was good because that can remind Yeah.
02:06:57
Speaker 3: Like Bunge's got a couple of twenty three.
02:06:59
Speaker 17: Three, isn't there?
02:07:00
Speaker 3: Which is kind of cool.
02:07:02
Speaker 17: Hey, the Geelong waiver gate, if you like get order the ployees exploding, please.
02:07:06
Speaker 3: Explain today waiting.
02:07:08
Speaker 17: Well, Geelong had to report back to the AFL about it, but the AFFL Commission have appointed a King's Counsel to preside over the investigation if you like, and or sanction just to keep it at arm's distance. I think it's simple. The AFFUL Chairman of Commission, Craig Drummond was the then President of Geelong who is now the chair of the Commission. I think he just needs to simply stand down. It is a conflict of interest. That's why they bought in a third party King's Council and Parachute and Eddie mcguie. Now we'll be speaking to Eddie at five o'clock.
02:07:39
Speaker 3: Wow, we might push chairman of the AFL. Well, you can't have the Chairman of the AFL at the brown Low or the All Australian and all of these with any kind of staying to his character, can you.
02:07:54
Speaker 17: Well we're not We're not casting dispersions, but.
02:07:57
Speaker 3: I'm saying if there is any doubt, well there is doubt. It is That's why you got They've got a.
02:08:03
Speaker 17: Third party investigator in a King's Council, much respected apparently to preside over this.
02:08:09
Speaker 3: But you don't want to lose faith in your governorship of course.
02:08:12
Speaker 17: Well, corporate governance is massive, integrity is massive. The lens of this is awful that something has been tried to be swept under the carpet. There they're trying to say it's it's a misstep was the word that Steve Hawking used. This is more than.
02:08:32
Speaker 3: A misstep administration eraror Now.
02:08:34
Speaker 17: This was a non Victorian club.
02:08:38
Speaker 3: Oh god, what about that Jenny hart Crow's won during COVID Remember that on the golf course. That was one of the great wax of all time.
02:08:45
Speaker 17: Taylor Walker didn't wear a mask on a plane. Ken Heckley put his arms out, made up noise and got.
02:08:52
Speaker 3: Twenty grand and then they promoted it for six months. They used it in the promo.
02:08:56
Speaker 17: Put Adelaide got one hundred thousand dollars fine for putting a liar back on the ground without so called concussion protocols. This is more than a sanction.
02:09:05
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred smells. You might have seen three sixty last night. Mark Knight's cartoon in the Herald Sun yesterday was amazing where it was a cartoon characature of a player being taken off on the wagon in the on the stretcher with a person behind him saying, hey, sign this contract, sign this contract. But that's what it happens right there.
02:09:27
Speaker 17: We'll speak to Portstein, Brogan, Crows, Maddy Crouch on Texas retirement, Eddie McGuire. We said that do not miss that. At five we're going to see who's going to be the next chairman? Massive show. We've got Caddy Choon Siimon. Guess what'schepping on Thursday?
02:09:43
Speaker 3: The cricket is a betch. I looked at the weather, going, I wonder what the weather's like because we've just had this apocalyptic rainstorm thirty thirty one every day.
02:09:52
Speaker 17: I believe Big show, see it, well.
02:09:53
Speaker 3: Don't see it four o'clock. Thank you, Rowi, Steven Roe, Tim Ginuer coming up, Big Show, don't miss Eddie McGuire, Andrew. We've got about a minute before we get to the news.
02:10:01
Speaker 12: I'll be quick, hi, Andrew. How good was Kim Wilde and back in the day all those film clips that accompanied the songs.
02:10:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's lovely and good fun and I love the fact that she comes back and you know it's going through a resurgence kind of the nostalgic music. So that's very personal.
02:10:19
Speaker 12: When you did leave one out the Bengals. But hey, look I'm calling about the census. If they're talking about taking a year to compile with the data, and I think I heard you say eighty five percent of it is online. You think that would just be like instantaneous. And then the other thing is if it's all about to help aiding governments to plan data. How come they didn't see the housing crisis emerging?
02:10:43
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