FIVEAA Afternoons with Stacey Lee - 23 June 2026

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Speaker 1: Five double A afternoons with Stacy Leader.
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you and happy Tuesday. It's the twenty third of June and I'm Stacy with you through until four o'clock. How do you feel about AI data centers? Eight double two to three double O double OW is the number to call to have your say. The state government says it wants them, but why do we need them? We'll talk about it a little later on with Jeff Webb, who is an AI expert from Monash University. He understands these things inside and out, so we'll talk to him about why we need them and why do we need them locally? Because you know, anyone who's using AI at the moment is using it. I was about to say quite successfully. It's not always successful interaction with AI, but it's being used without having a whole heap of local data centers in Australia. So why do we need them here? Why can't we just use AI with the existing data centers that are being built overseas. What's the go with that? We'll find out after three o'clock next hour as well. After two o'clock we're talking health insurance for over sixty fives the government says that they'll cut some of those health insurance discounts for people aged over sixty five because it's about generational equity. Are you buying that? Because Greg Morris is the CEO of HIF Health Insurance Australia. It's a not for profit health insurance company, and he says there could be some other ramifications as a result of this change that we haven't thought about. On the government's own numbers, they're saying more than forty thousand people over the age of sixty five could reduce or cut out their health insurance altogether. And I know this is expected to impact so many of you. Every time we talk about it, I hear about your concerns and I'd love to continue getting your call today on eight double two to three double o double oh. But there are some ramifications that maybe we haven't thought about yet. Like at the moment, if you have health insurance largely, you get to choose which provider you're going to use. Can you still do that if you have to reduce or cancel your health insurance altogether. You might have been going to your dentist for the last twenty or thirty years. Will you still be able to go there, and maybe you will, but it'll cost you a whole lot more money. So we'll talk about that, and i'd love your calls travel talk as well today and it's a huge hour coming up. David Kosh, the chairman of Port Adelaide and former Sunrise host, has unleashed on social media at the logis. He is very unhappy at some of the nominations that have been or some of the finalists that have been announced. So you'll hear from him. What's got Koshi so fired up? And Nony Hazelhurst. I'm so excited to chat to Nony. Don't tell her, but I'm a little bit nervous. She's coming into the studio after one thirty. I remember her from my play school days. You might remember her from Better Homes and Gardens wherever it is. We all know Nony. She'll be in the studio because she's in Adelaide at the moment doing a one woman show at the Festival Theater. So we'll find out everything you need to know about The Lark, which is on right now. But first, the big news today that has been released. The ATSB is conducting its investigation into the plane crash. The light plane crash which killed flight instructor Robert Hoyle and a student pilot at Parafield Airport back in April. It has released an interim report and has identified that a component in the nose landing gear failed due to fatigue and the nose landing gear remained extended during the flight. So what does that mean? Angus Mitchell is the Chief Commissioner of the ATSB joins you. Now, good afternoon, Angus, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 3: Good aff noon, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: Can you explain to us in layman's term, what that means about the nose landing gear failing due to fatigue?
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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so. Look, this was the accident that many of your listeners will be aware of, only occurred two months ago, back on the twenty ninth of April, and tragically, as you pointed out, we lost a pilot instructor, so the instructor on board the aircraft and the pilot undergoing instruction. Now what's happened is very soon after takeoff, they were there conducting a training flight and the plan was to conduct what's known as single engine inoperating. So that's the shutting down or the reducing power in one of the engines simulated to simulate an engine farlure. Now that was the purpose of the flight. Now quite tragically, very soon after takeoff, they've started to your left and that's really veering left and continued all the way around and impacted a building. Now tragically, the two of them have lost their lives and a number of people on the ground were also taken to hospital with injuries. What we've found, and while we've released this report today so early in the investigation, as we've found a component in the landing gear that's what's known as an actuator rod. That component has fractured due to a fatigue fracture. Now that has had the potential very much and we know this from past experiences to impact the rudder controls. So a rudder control going hard left is what we've founders has occurred in this instance has most likely been due to the fracture of this piece. So that's part of the puzzle and it's very I guess it's quite important that we released that today because there's around six hundred of these aircraft in service around the world, so that tells us part of what's occurred. There's still a lot more work for us to do. We know that the left hand engine also by the time of impact that wasn't producing power. Now there's a number of different scenarios that we need to run through to understand why that's the case. So there's more to this puzzle that certainly today we've released the preliminary report that talks very much around the fracture of this component and the effect that that's potentially had on the rudder controls.
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Speaker 2: And so you mentioned that during the flight they were simulating an engine failure. Is that something that's done regularly during flight training. Is that part of the course?
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Speaker 3: Well, I guess the distinction there is they were planning on doing simulated engine failure training. Now that's normally not done until the aircraft gets up to at least four hundred feet above the ground. So we're certainly not suggesting that any type of stimulation took place at the lower level. But what we do know is that the instructor twenty second seven seconds after takeoff has made a radio call of engine failure, and then that obviously gives us a little bit of an insight as to what they believed they were dealing with in the cockpit at that time. Now very soon after that it's impacted the building. So the whole flight only lasted around forty six seconds, so we know what was planned on being conducted. We know in the very early stages, at some stage this component has failed, this fracture has occurred, and the impact that that's potentially had on the rudder system. Exactly what has happened to the engine or what the pilots may have believed has happened to the engine does require further work. So there's more pieces to this puzzle, as I said, But today the preliminary report is really to give owners and operators of this particular aircraft early advice as to what we found and the potential that that will have going forward for other operations.
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Speaker 2: Okay, because it was a Diamond aircraft plane, and it's my understanding, it's not the first time that there's been an issue with the nose landing gear actuator on one of these planes.
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Speaker 3: That's correct. So this aircraft, the DA forty two, is in service all around the world and it is quite a popular aircraft, particularly for multi engine training. Now back a number of years ago, what was six years ago, they have issued what's known as service bulletins when this piece of this particular rod has failed in the past under different circumstances, I will add, and there were a number of measures that needed to be implemented to reduce the likelihood of that particular fracture, and that's certainly what has happened for this plane. So those things were undertaken. We're we again found a fracture in that component, quite likely related to different circumstances, but the effect may well be the same in that it's then impacted the rudder controls, which is meant that the pilot under instruction and the instructor were facing a very challenging situation in a critical phase of flight, which is on takeoff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it seems like that issue with the nose landing gear, or potential issue that's been identified with the nose landing gear, it doesn't seem like there was anything that could have been done to prevent that. All instruction from the plane's manufacturer was followed well.
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Speaker 3: Certainly the service bulletins that had been issued I think back in twenty thirteen and around twenty nineteen had been followed. We do know that when this incident had occurred in the past, the pilot had re extended the ding gear, which has then I guess, solved the initial problem and they've been able to regain control and land the aircraft. But we also go to some link in the report to point out that that's not necessarily a usual action. So if you are faced with what they would have been faced with taking off and getting a substantial y're to the left, it would be potentially more reasonable to suspect it was an engine failure than a rather control issue. But there's still, as I said, there's still more work for us to do. So as part of the I guess the sequence is explained by this fracture, there is more around exactly what took place after that was they were faced with this situation in the air which would have been exceptionally challenging for any pilot to face, no matter how experienced they were.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the preliminary report. Investigations are obviously still ongoing. Crystal Ball their angerst You know how much longer it will take to come up with a final report.
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Speaker 3: It would be great to have a crystal ball and know these things. It really does depend on the evidence and how much analysis we have to do. But generally these things. By the time we get out of final report, we're sort of at least a year eighteen months down the track. There's a lot of evidence for us to assess, and there was a lot of damage done. As many of your listeners will appreciate and will have seen the footage on television. It was substantially damaged as it impacted the buildings and then the post impact by means that picking through that wreckage site and then understanding what has occurred in the air is quite a challenge for us, but we're certainly used to dealing with that in the course of the work we do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, we appreciate your time this afternoon in updating us. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 3: You're welcome, Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's Angus Mitchell, the chief Commissioner at the AT and as he mentioned there that that's the preliminary report that's been released just a short time ago. Full report still to come. Quick break now on five Double A and after that David Kosh will join you. He is very unhappy with the logis this year. You'll find out why.
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Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee.
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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes past one here on five double A. David kosh is the name you know well, he's on the Breaky Show with David will Port, Adelaide chairman, Compare the Market, former Sunrise host. I don't know which title to use, Koshi Good afternoon? Oh good? How are you you fired up? I saw on social media you fired up about the logis at the moment.
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Speaker 4: Oh obviously, I'm still pretty good, very close to Nat and the team at Sunrise, and with the Logis came out of the nominations for the loaders, I thought, here we go again, that Sunrise is the dominant breakfast program and just does hardly ever gets nominated, And I felt bad for the team because I know how they work so hard to maintain their leadership. Summarizes Is won every single day in the ratings this year, sometimes by as much as thirty percent is a different so you know, they absolutely dominated. And to not get nominated for the most Popular News and Current Affairs presenter or the most popular News and Current Affairs program when their competitor had both hosts nominated and also the show nominated as the most popular show, I thought, it's just a sight of the face. Now it happened to me when I was at but you can never complain because you're seen as been bad sports. But you know, I thought I've been out of it a couple of years now, so I'm going to call it out because I know how devastated they would be not to be recognized.
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Speaker 2: How does it work? Because obviously we know the Australian public we get to vote now that the nominees have been announced, But who decides who the nominees are?
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Speaker 4: No idea, some mysterious faceless panel apparently because I asked the same question. And look, Sunrise can say we win the most important popularity contest, which is the everyday Rattans. But you know, to be acknowledged in the logis I think is a vindication for all the hard work that they put in. As I say, they just they are crushing that time slot. They absolutely dominated. And I asked who the Dominese were and apparently it's it's a committee or a panel that is that is never made public, which I think is pretty dodgy to start with. And as I say, it happens constantly, and I would for years people would come up to me and say, yeah, you know, it must be so hard up against the might of the Today Show and Breakfast, and I'd say to them, well, I actually haven't won a ratings year for twenty one years, twenty two years, and they're shocked. And that Logis recognition I think is really important.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's not I think anyone in the media knows, particularly in news media, you don't do it for awards. If we did it for awards, none of us would still be in the industry. But when an event like the Logis comes up and awards like the Logis comes out, you hope that the people who have been winning the ratings for such a long period of time would be considered it or get the recognition that they clearly deserve.
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Speaker 4: Well, the segment says most popular News and Current Affairs presenter, and the other one says most popular News and Current Affairs program. Well, you know, the ratings are the ultimate decision on popular so to be nominated, you would think it would go on ratings, but it's just been so skewed so far the other way that I know, you know, it hurts them not to be recognized and sort of snubbed like that. So I'm just simply asking questions of the logis, How the hell do they come to that decision?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've called it a participation award.
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Speaker 4: Well, I asked whether that's what the logis have become. To be nominated, You just need to participate, not that you're not that you're good or you're win the ratings.
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Speaker 2: Mmmmm.
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Speaker 4: It's meant. It's meant to be a showcase of the best of Australian television. And my view is that it's not showcasing the best of breakfast televisions.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The interesting thing as well, I thought was the Loki's are broadcast on Channel seven at the moment. Usually when you look at these things, you think, oh, well the broadcast, you know, broadcaster might have some say in the nominees, but they're on Channel seven.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know. So I'd love to know who this this panel who comes up with the nominees actually actually does it, because you know, the nominees, whoever, whoever wins those particular segmues won't be up against or the public won't be able to vote for anyone from the Sunrise or the program itself. No, I don't like the results, pretty skewed.
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Speaker 2: I don't like that we don't know who's on the paneids. It's a bit like a professional troll. I mean, you know, you can have a trolling Instagram account and no one knows who you are. You can be a professional Logi's troll and decide who the nominees are and no one knows who you are exactly.
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Speaker 4: And as you know, a big thing for me is I reckon any social media you should have to put your name to it. To have a social media account, your identity and name should be verified. And I reckon that would and with technology the way it is today, that shouldn't be too hard for the big platforms to insist on. And I reckon that would cut down on a lot of the bullying amongst kids and all that sort of thing that if you've got an account, a social media account, you put your name to it and you'd be held accountable to it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I could not agree more cause.
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Speaker 4: Yep, I would solve it in an instance.
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Speaker 2: Yet, all these.
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Speaker 4: Anonymous keyboard warriors who destroy people's lives and particularly young kids' lives, the bullies of the world, it would certainly shut them up if their identity was done, and.
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Speaker 2: Help police as well in finding the ones that were really if they were brave enough to put their face in their name to their comments online or their messages, then it would help police work out who they are. Yep, couldn't agree more. Well, gosh, thanks for your time this afternoon, and yeah.
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Speaker 4: Right, and good luck with breakfast?
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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you? Yes obviously in a few weeks. Oh yeah, well you know all about that. Any tips for.
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Speaker 4: Me, yes, be disciplined about when going to better than I. The hardest thing that I had to deal with after I retired from Sunrise is that I'd be home of a night watching the TV shows that she liked that I thought weren't that good, and she just told me to go to bed early. Why I'd double twenty one years.
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Speaker 2: I like Matt like a child. Okay, bedtime, now, go to bed. Yeah, I love it. Well, I'll talk to you somch.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Bye. It's David Kosh, their former Sunrise host, and you hear him on the Brecky Show with David will and with me and will soon to be in a few weeks looking forward to that or what do you think do you think the logi's process should be a bit more transparent or what did you think about Coschi's idea of people having to put their face and their name on their social media accounts. I love that idea. I'd love your thoughts. Eight double two three double Oh. It's time for the one thirty news headlines now though, and after that, someone who was inducted into the Logi's Hall of Fame, Nony Hazlehurst, will be joining me in the studio. She's in Adelaide at the moment for a one woman show called The Lark. We'll find out what it's all about.
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Speaker 1: Five double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee five double as State of the Arts.
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Speaker 2: Let's get artie now and we will head down to the Festival Center where Nony Hazlehurst will be performing her one woman show, The Lark. She joins me in the studio now, good afternoon, Nony, Thanks.
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Speaker 5: For coming in, Thanks stay for having me.
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. I'm very excited to me because I remember you from my play school days.
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Speaker 5: I did play school for twenty four years.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four years.
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Speaker 5: Wow, between other acting jobs. I think people under forty you think I've got lucky with a couple of acting jobs after play school, but I'm actually doing grown up stuff as well at the same time.
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Speaker 2: And then better homes and gardens as well.
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Speaker 5: Ten years, the first ten years of.
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Speaker 2: That, and so you've done lots of TV and on stage as well. How does the Lark compare being on stage by yourself, with no one to interact, with.
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Speaker 5: No one to blame but myself. I actually love the challenge. I just love being able to take the audience on the complete journey, from the beginning through the middle to the end. Great responsibility, you know, because if a phone goes off in the auditorium, for example, you know that becomes the play for a minute. So you really have to be really conscious of every audience member. Every cough if it's a loud cough, have people who are around that person missed the last line? Do I need to say it again? Was it a key line that they coughed over? So people think you're sort of in your own world on the stage, but you're not. You're totally aware of the audience because that's who you're doing it for, right.
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Speaker 2: So there's still a little bit of there is a bit of interaction, but people in the crowd won't recognize it. They won't say, oh, she's reacted to that because there's no one on stage that you're reacting to.
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Speaker 5: I guess no, no, there isn't, although she does reminisce that the character has lived all her life in this inner city pub that's due for demolition, and so part of the play is some of the characters that she's had encounters with over the years, fairly colorful characters. So yeah, it's no, You've just got to be in that moment, you know, because someone might have a funny turn in the audience, or someone might have brought a guide dog in who snores, you know, so you really have to be aware of every lolly wrapper and everything that's going on.
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Speaker 2: Right, And so yes, tell us about the storyline of the mark. It's based on the a pub in Melbourne called The Lark, which is closing down.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this character, Rose Gray, was actually born in the hotel and her father ran it and her mother left when she was a baby, abandoned them, never heard from again. So she's been with her father her whole life and he's since passed away and she's been running the pub for the last thirty years by herself, and it's very much a working man's pub in an inner city environment could be in any city, really, because I think that gentrification is going on in every city. I can see in Adelaide, you know, some of the old pubs due for demolition, or the facade is kept and they build some hundreds of units behind them or something. So it's something I think that most people can relate to, that the chaining the evolution of our cities and what's lost as well as what's gained. And you know, so she's really reminiscing about her life, her choices in life, and the consequences of those choices, and just the mourning of things that have gone before but are no longer there. And I think some of us do have those regrets for what was not necessarily thinking about the kind of environment that we live in so much now, but what a life means when you look back over a life. She's seventy five. She's a couple of years older than me, so I really have to work to play an old lady. But yeah, at our stage of life, you do tend to sort of think back about your choices and that the consequences of them and whether you made the right ones. So it's an interesting piece.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of the reviews. I mean the word powerful is used a lot. The show's got humor and heart is something else that I'm hearing, and you know that much feel do you feel pressure to I guess portray all of those things, humor, heart, make sure it's powerful and it's impactful for those coming along.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's in the writing. I mean. Daniel Keane, who's one of Australia's best writers and not nearly well known enough, wrote this for me and the previous one woman show I did called Mother, which unfortunately didn't come to Adelaide. He has something for everybody in his pieces. They're so deeply human and he really has a wonderful grasp of the different factors that make up any life, you know, whether it's joy or grief, regret, optimism, pessimism. There's something for everybody in there because we all have these complex We're all ordinary, you know, whether she's an ordinary person people have said, but everyone's ordinary. Just a lot of us spend a lot of time pretending that we're not or believing that we're not, but deep down we share more similarities and differences. And I think that's the function of a true artist, which Daniel is. You know, because he can understand that human beings do share so much, but in these divisive times we tend to forget that. And I think that's the power of particular theater, because it's the last place where you can have one on one human interaction, except of course, when people wear microphones, which I totally disapprove of. Oh, wearing the microphone, I'll just train your voice, honestly. I mean it's horrible to think that.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 5: When I was a kid, I went to see the Sound of Music. I was about eight and in one of those beautiful theaters in Melbourne. The Princess Or one of those, and they didn't have microphones, and they had a full orchestra playing in front of them. They knew how to project their voices. So I think it's really important that actors really try and get over this fear of speaking out loudly for the stage. It's different on film, but for the stage train and.
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Speaker 2: It is interesting seeing performers on stage with microphones because they've tried to come up with all these clever ways of where to put them, and often they come over that top of someone's head now and you see a thing on their forehead.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, or around the cheek, yeah, which is so off putting. Yeah, you're immediately aware that it's an actor, not a character. Yeah, So I think it gives you that degree of separation which really helps to obfscate what you're doing somehow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. You immediately know I'm in a theater watching someone perform this role, instead of immersing yourself in the storyline.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know it takes away from the power of that communication, I think, from person to person.
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Speaker 2: So no microphones for you, Nope, I love that absolutely not. Now how long has it been since you were in Adelaide because you studied drama here at Flinders I did.
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Speaker 5: I came here in nineteen seventy one and studied under wal Cherry who was the professor, the first professor of drama, and was actually in one of the first productions in the space, a musical called The Fantastics that Wall directed. So that's fifty two years ago, which I find it possible to believe. Wow, I remember it like it was yesterday. But it's wonderful to be back in it. It's such a beautiful town. It's so gentle, you know, That's what I love about it.
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Speaker 2: Have the city changed much in that time?
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Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely, Yeah, the skyline has certainly changed. Gentrification is happening.
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Speaker 2: And you are right. We've got a lot of those pubs where the facades are remaining but there are apartments behind it and really tall buildings behind it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean, obviously we need housing for people, but it's I think it's just sad that particularly some of that beautiful architecture, that craftsmanship, you know, is being lost.
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Speaker 2: So what do you plan on doing while you're here, because you're here for a while a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I really don't want to do very much. I'm going to catch up with some friends, but I really just have to focus all my energy on the show because it's a fifty page monologue and so, you know, I really can't afford to go out and about it. You know, have a good time, really, but I enjoy myself just doing what I'm doing. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good good. And you're on our Walk of Fame at the Adelaide Festival Center.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I've never seen it really, Yeah, so I'm hoping they spilt my name correctly.
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it myself, but I could almost say, with one hundred percent certainty they would have spelled my name correctly.
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Speaker 5: Otherwise I have to get a texture out and change it.
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Speaker 2: Is that exciting for you? I mean, you've had so many accolades over the years. I mentioned earlier Logi's Hall of Fame awards here, there, and everywhere. When you get something like a star on the Adelaide Walk of Fame at the Adelaide Festival Center, do you do you sort of go okay, cool, another award or is it exciting for you?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 5: I think it's lovely, you know, to be associated with my early memories of training here because it was very special for me to be able to do that and have that three years protection between being seventeen and twenty that a university can provide. No, it's an honor, and I don't take that lightly at all. It's just lovely to know that you are remembered in this in this area, in this place for making some sort of contribution.
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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, well you definitely are. Emily on the text line says, I love NONI what a treasure. I think Emily's my vintage as well. So em I'm going to hazard a guess that you probably remember NONI from play school as well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm very proud of play school. It taught me a great deal about performing really yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you can convince a three year old that you're having a conversation with them and get a feedback, adults are a breeze because you have to be in the moment. You have to be real.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 5: Kids can pick someone putting on it. Have they dally you know, they're not interested, No, But if you can engage them, perfect. So they taught you know, that really taught me a lot about not just being a performer, but also being a human being, about being present and making a connection, not being afraid to you know, not having to put a mask up. And the name of my autobiography is dropping the mask. So that was something I learned very early on at play school. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Interesting, and it's really true because kids, kids do see throat and they'll tell you as well.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, instant bs detective, that's for sure, absolutely all right.
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Speaker 2: So The Lark is on at the Space Theater from the twenty fourth of June to tomorrow until the fifth of July. Tickets are on sale now get them online. I'm guessing a few more rehearsals, another rehearsal before tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: We don't now.
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Speaker 5: We remounted the I did it in Melbourne and Brisbane last year, late last year, so we had a week in Melbourne last week. Just get me back up to speak. So yeah, we're just bumping in tomorrow and have our first audience Thursday.
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Speaker 2: Oh well, very exciting. Thank you so much for coming in and all the best and enjoy being back in Adelaide. I will, Thanks Daisy, Thanks NONI appreciate it. That's Nony Hazelhurston. As I said, you can get tickets for the Lark now online. Just trying to find the website. Just google it The Lark Adelaide Festival Center. It's on at Space Theatre from tomorrow sixteen minutes to two here on five Double A. And after that you would have heard about hand Picked Festival. It's our homegrown festival here in South Australia. Kate Cooper started it on her parents' property and it's back again this year. She's announced the lineup and another local performer is headlining it. You'll find out who next.
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Speaker 1: Five Double A Afternoons with Stacy Lee thirteen minutes.
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Speaker 2: To two here on five double A. We're in the middle of State of the Arts and a locally grown festival. Handpicked is back on this year and the new lineup has been announced. Kate Cooper is the event organizer. She started this whole thing a few years ago and it's just grown and grown with such success. She joins you now, hello, Kate, Hello.
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Speaker 8: Stage, how are you yeah, Listen, We're doing really really well in a pretty good place right now with hand Picked.
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Speaker 2: So feeling happy, good, good because your tickets pre sale started last week. How are sales going?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, So pre sale without any artist being announced was the first time we've ever done anything live there, So we actually sold sixty five percent of our tickets last week without a single artist being announced. So amazing.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that is a real credit to you and the reputation that you've helped to build for this festival ever so many years.
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Speaker 8: Well done, Thank you, thank you. It was definitely nice to give it a go and see what the brand and the event did mean to people. And I think it does prove that people are happy to come for the experience and hang out in the backyard and they know what they're going to get. So yeah, that was a really exciting thing to kind of launch for our tenth event. But obviously now we've also announced the artist, so tickets are almost gone, which is, like I said, a pretty good place to be in.
00:33:34
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, all right, so tell us who is in the lineup this year.
00:33:39
Speaker 8: So we've announced five artists so far. Hot and now I'm when I say five, it could be six. Gee, that's my brain.
00:33:44
Speaker 2: Hold on, I've got the list in front of me. Oh I think it's six.
00:33:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, good six?
00:33:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
00:33:50
Speaker 8: So we've got guys Sebastian, Missy Higgins is coming back with twists, thrilled about. We love Missy. We've got the Teski brothers coming back. We have got old nerves for the first time. It will be great to have them there, Kidder, Alexander and oh my goodness, I know I'm forgetting one.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and it's a big one too.
00:34:11
Speaker 8: Okay, Oh no, I've forgotten. I hope they're not listening to this interview.
00:34:16
Speaker 2: Well I don't know the living end.
00:34:19
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's exactly right. Gosh, I feel like I'm in a quiz right now to test my own Thanks, Thank goodness, you've got to list in front of your one. I've snuck outside to do this interview.
00:34:32
Speaker 2: No, I totally get it because you've got young kids, so you're probably doing this in between lunchtime and afternoon snack time and nap time and all.
00:34:40
Speaker 8: Of that exactly exactly three kids now, which is crazy since we first started because it was back in twenty fourteen, so I certainly was a bit more footboos and fancy freeback when I was planning hand picks. So times have changed now, but it's just made you know, planning more interesting, and we've probably grown the festival and evolved at too, think about more families and make it more inclusive and accessible for everybody. So I think it's been a great evolution of where the event's gone to.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not the only hand picked festival goer who you know has didn't have kids when the event first started and does now. I'm sure you've got lots of people who are coming along now with their kids because it's a real family friendly event.
00:35:20
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I think we've actually got a young couple that have traveled when I say young ten years ago, they've come over from Port Lincoln every year and started bringing their kids, and now their kids are older. So yeah, it's been beautiful to kind of watch people come and support us for solong and grow their families and you know, bring friends of friends of friends. So it does still feel like an extension of the family, and we hope that people do feel that too when they come along.
00:35:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so. For someone who maybe hasn't heard of hand Picked Festival before, tell us a bit about it and where is it you mentioned before. It's in the backyard, which I love the sound of that. But it's a big and beautiful backyard, it sure is it.
00:36:05
Speaker 8: Sure So my grandparents and all of my family own Lake Breeze Winery, which is at Langhorn Creek, so down at the Fluria Peninsula, beautiful part of the world. I stayed backyard because literally my nanny and grandpa still live on site, which is why I always say, yeah, we're in nanny Grandpa's backyard. We've got to be respectful.
00:36:25
Speaker 10: You know.
00:36:26
Speaker 8: One day Grandpa has his cows out there, but then he does clear it out ready for nine thousand people to come into his space. But no, beautiful part of the world. Definitely still you know, nine thousand people. It's not a small festival anymore. But we have the most amazing surrounds with beautiful gum trees. You're surrounded by vineyards. We say, bring a picnic, rug, bring his friends, bring your family. I suppose that was kind of created because I don't really love music festivals. I didn't love that sort of like sardine unsafe feeling. We do everything we can to work in with the space and give people, yeah, more room to breathe, but also have amazing wine, lots of food, and obviously some pretty incredible musicians too.
00:37:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just sounds like a fun time all round.
00:37:15
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I hope so I hope people feel that too.
00:37:19
Speaker 2: Yes, And over the last ten years, you must have some pretty uh surreal stories from all the different artists that you've had in the lineups over the years.
00:37:31
Speaker 11: Definitely.
00:37:31
Speaker 8: I mean there's some that I will just never talk about. But it's been it has been good, fun and very interesting. And also I suppose the best part of it is meeting some of these artists. They're just beautiful people and I love their reaction to the space, and they all leave saying gosh, we can't wait to come back. So that's that's a very you know, surreal feeling in itself that most of them have a really good time when they come and put form. But I think I always mentioned my favorite was when Matt Corby was on site sound checking and Grandpa, who knows nothing about musicians, you know, was over there chatting, and Matt Corby asked if Grandpa wanted to play frisbee after his sound check. So Grandpa just started playing frisbee for half an hour with Matt Corby and his band.
00:38:21
Speaker 1: You know.
00:38:21
Speaker 8: He wanders over and he's like, oh, that guy was nice. I was like, Grandpa, you're just playing with Matt Corby, like we were too scared to go and say hello to him, and there you are playing frisbee with him.
00:38:32
Speaker 4: I love that.
00:38:34
Speaker 8: So always been my most favorite story. I think, yes, yeah, but no, been very very good fun over the years.
00:38:42
Speaker 2: Good on you, it's so good. And so you mentioned that ticket sales went really well before you announced the lineup. How are they going now? Is it too late for someone listening to jump on and grab some tickets?
00:38:53
Speaker 1: You know what?
00:38:54
Speaker 8: We still have just over one thousand tickets left, so yeah, nearly sold out, which is a great problem to have. Caravan and Camping have sold out all of our kids tickets, almost all of our VIP but there's definitely still a few. So if you want to come along, yeah, tell your friends it's a beautiful day out.
00:39:14
Speaker 2: Okay, where can we get tickets?
00:39:17
Speaker 8: So just go to our website, so Handpick Festival dot Com and that will send you through some wash Ticks, our only ticketing provider that we accept. Okay, and when is it November fourteenth this year?
00:39:31
Speaker 2: Perfect? I'm writing it down fourteenth of November. Handpicked Festival dot Com is where you can get your tickets and there's only a few left, so make sure you jump online and get in quick. Kate, thank you so much for coming on today and all the best with it.
00:39:45
Speaker 8: Thanks day, Thanks so much.
00:39:47
Speaker 12: See you.
00:39:48
Speaker 2: That's Kate Cooper. She started hand Picked Festival as you just heard in a I love this grandparents backyard, huge beautiful estate winery Lake Breezewine in Langhorn Creek in on the Flurio Peninsula. So get online, support some local producers, local artists, local wine makers and Guy Sebastian's the headline. Support local all round. I love it all right. Well, we are coming up to the two o'clock news and after that we are talking health insurance. This is the government's announcement that it would be cutting some of the discounts, the health insurance discounts for people aged over sixty five. Now we knew that this was coming into play. It's been spoken about for a while now, and I know it will affect so many of you. But these changes were made in the name of generational equity. I wonder are you believing that. Do you think these changes will actually lead to generational equity? And do we really know the full extent of the impact of these changes yet, because we've been talking about it for a while now. But Greg Morris, the CEO of HIF Health Insurance, it's a not for profit health insurance, he thinks there could be some other ramifications that maybe haven't been spoken about before. So you're going to hear from him after two o'clock and then after two thirty it's the team from Phil Hoffman Travel. Sally Murphy is going to be in the studio. She is the solo travel coordinator. So if you've got a travel question, get on the phone eight double two to three, double O, double O five double.
00:41:24
Speaker 1: A afternoons with Stacy Lee.
00:41:29
Speaker 2: Twenty six minutes to three here on five double A. Get on the phone now if you have a travel question, because in just a moment we are chatting to Sally Murphy from phil Hoffman Travel. She is the solo travel coordinator and she's got some information for you. There have been some changes to the travel recommendations for the Middle East. What will it mean for you? Do you have an upcoming trip or maybe you'd like to book an upcoming trip and just wondering about destinations you need some advice. She's here to prove. But today, I don't think it was as cold as yesterday. It's definitely a cold morning. That's for short, nice chili morning. Daniel Hayes, Is it the Bureau of Meteorology, Daniel, I guess we can expect cold mornings in winter, haz we can. We can.
00:42:17
Speaker 13: Well.
00:42:17
Speaker 14: It was a little below average, though, which we haven't had a whole lot of those this season, so perhaps a little bit of a shock to the system. But we do expect it to be cool for at least another couple of mornings.
00:42:29
Speaker 9: Yet we'll see.
00:42:31
Speaker 14: Those minimum temperatures pushing up above average again by the end of the week. But tomorrow morning will be very similar to what we saw this morning, so little chilly still, and you know it's not until well Monday next week we potentially push those minimums into the double figures, so they will stay single figures and relatively cool for the rest of this week. The maximum temperatures, as you said, a little bit warmer today than yesterday, around about one or two degrees, a huge difference, but relatively light winds means that you do get to feel pretty much every degree of the fifteen or sixteen that we got to today. We don't have the wind taking it away from us. It be fairly similar tomorrow again, perhaps a degree or so warmer, and by the end of the week we're getting up to in about seventeens and even eighteens to start next week, so not huge changes, but just to touch warmer. We don't expect to see much of the way precipitation around it, and not a huge amount of cloud either. There is a decent cloud band over on the wa border at the moment, there's a weak trough in the bit. They will move eastwards over the next day or so, so there's a slight chances of showers into the Adelaide area, particularly around the hub, the hills, and around the southern suburbs. But yeah, most people probably won't see anything, and if you do get a shower, it's probably likely to be less than a middle better or so. So not going to change too much on the day to day whether over the next few days. High pressure ridge is still dominating our weather sounds good.
00:44:00
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm excited about a forecast of eighteen But there you go. Thanks Daniel, I see you. That's Daniel Hayes at the Bureau of Meteorology.
00:44:12
Speaker 6: Thank your bags, your dream destination or waits. Thanks to Bill Hoffman Travel for over thirty years creating moments you'll never forgets. This is five double a travel talk.
00:44:23
Speaker 2: Sally Murphy's here in this studio, solo travel coordinator at Phil Hoffman Travel.
00:44:28
Speaker 12: Hello Sally, Hello Stacey. Had kind of done a bad job last time I was here. Because you've had me back.
00:44:32
Speaker 2: You're back. Always happy to have you in the studio.
00:44:34
Speaker 5: Thanks for coming back, Thanks for having me.
00:44:37
Speaker 2: What's been going on at the moment? What are the popular destinations, particularly for solo travelers.
00:44:42
Speaker 12: Popular destinations for everyone?
00:44:43
Speaker 5: Pretty much?
00:44:44
Speaker 12: Vietnam Japan has just been consistent probably for the last couple of years now closer to home New Zealand, South Pacific. But of course Europe now is opening up again, so we've seen a bit of a boom in the last week. People now feeling a little bit more confident about making plans for Europe.
00:45:01
Speaker 2: And I guess maybe people seeking some sun at the moment. I was very interested to read in the paper this morning. I don't know if you saw it, but there's a couple in at Golden Grove who won one point eight million dollars in the Cross Lotto, and the last line of the story was the couple planned to jet off to Darwin. They're going on a holiday and I thought Darwin. Interesting. If I won one point eight million dollars, I think I'd be going further abroad than Darwin.
00:45:29
Speaker 12: I might start with Darwin. Yeah, it's thirty one up in Darwin at the moment, so certainly warmer than his stacy.
00:45:35
Speaker 2: Where would you go if you won one point eight million dollars? Then you could pick any destination. Where would you go? Eight double two to three double?
00:45:40
Speaker 10: Oh?
00:45:41
Speaker 2: Double? Oh, So you'd start in Darwin and then where would you go? I'd yeah, Well, do you have a Do you have a dream destination for yourself.
00:45:48
Speaker 12: I'd like to go to Morocco. That's still on the bucket list. Yeah, and maybe Mexico. I'm getting a little bit old and unfit to be checking around the ruins of Mexico, so sooner looked better? I think, Really, is that.
00:45:59
Speaker 2: A consideration that people should take when they're considering traveling. I know it's something my mom says. She goes on solo trips. She went to Japan last year and did a big three month Europe trip a couple years ago, and she said that on her some of the bus tours there were people who were a bit older than her and less mobile, and she was glad she did it at this age, which I won't say on the radio. No, she's probably listening.
00:46:22
Speaker 12: Yes, we get that feedback a lot about the Kimberly. So a lot of people wait until they retire. They do their international traveling when they're younger, and then they stay close to home when they retire. The Kimberly is one of those destinations you really do need to be fit and active. I've had clients myself who've gone up there and struggled a little bit in getting around. So if you're thinking about the Kimberly, do it sooner rather than later. Definitely, that's a good tip.
00:46:45
Speaker 2: And then what about overseas because I guess you know, sometimes the older you get, the less confident you can get as well with doing layovers and you know, transporting through airports as well.
00:46:56
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:46:56
Speaker 12: Well, my background's are European tour director, so we had people of therering fitnesses and ages and that sort of thing. And that's the great thing about coach touring or river cruising. You can do as much or as little as you want. You know, river cruising you don't have to get off the ship and walk around the towns and villages, but you can still enjoy the beautiful countryside and the scenery along the way. So there's something out there for everyone, and that's what the consultants at phil Hoffman Traveler there for to steer you in the right direction for its right for you.
00:47:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. There's always a way to do it.
00:47:25
Speaker 12: Always, absolutely always. I think the oldest client I had on tour with me was ninety four, wow, and she just renewed a ten year passport. So how's that for optimism?
00:47:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
00:47:38
Speaker 12: She was really she was up and going.
00:47:41
Speaker 5: That's for sure.
00:47:41
Speaker 2: I bet, yeah, that's great. I just had to get my daughter at passport and she's just turned one, and I thought, she's not going to look like that. She looks different every week. She won't look like this in a five years time when it expired.
00:47:53
Speaker 1: I know.
00:47:54
Speaker 12: It's funny, isn't it.
00:47:54
Speaker 2: It is very funny. Brett on the text line said he's got to Dracula's castle in Romagnia.
00:48:00
Speaker 1: Been there?
00:48:00
Speaker 2: Oh, what's that light?
00:48:01
Speaker 12: It's amazing. It's not dark and spooky. It's white and it's bright and it's light. But it's in the countryside around it. Transylvania is stunning. Oh, really beautiful.
00:48:12
Speaker 2: That's a bit false advertising. Well not right light white for Dracula's cast.
00:48:17
Speaker 4: Well do I know?
00:48:18
Speaker 12: But it was a fictional novel that was just based on a character, so I'm sure bram Stoker had never been to Castle brand in Romania.
00:48:25
Speaker 14: I love that.
00:48:25
Speaker 2: That's great. Let us know where you'd go if you won one point eight million dollars. What would be your dream destination? Eight double two three double o double. Oh maybe for some it would be traveling direct to Shanghai because you can do that now out of Adelaide.
00:48:37
Speaker 12: Oh, Stacey, it's been a big week in travel this week. So we've just welcomed China Eastern Airlines into Adelaide on Saturday, flying three times a week direct to Shanghai, so no need to go through Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane straight into an Asian one of the biggest Asian gateways, and then from there all across Asia. And they have an incredible network of destinations throughout Europe as well, so a lot of people wouldn't consider going via China to get into Europe. But they're a really competitive airline with pricing, full service airline. We've had consultants at fuel Hoften Travel flowing them and said they're really really good airline. So they're flying until August and then they'll be back in December and they'll be sticking around till mid February, so that's seasonal flights that they'll be doing.
00:49:19
Speaker 2: Okay, and it might not be one that people would consider for Europe, but particularly at the moment. And we'll talk about traveling through the Middle East in a second, but at the moment, if people don't want to travel through the Middle East, maybe that's a good option.
00:49:33
Speaker 12: Well, when the Middle East situation kicked off and the consultants were having to try and redirect people, not knowing how long the situation was going to last, China Easter, they were using quite a lot and clients. The fairs were really really competitive.
00:49:48
Speaker 6: There you go.
00:49:48
Speaker 2: I hadn't really thought about that. Would you recommend people do in China? I mean, the Great Wall of China would be on a lot of people's bucket list.
00:49:57
Speaker 12: Yet I think Terracotta warriors.
00:50:00
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:50:01
Speaker 12: You can cruise the yank Se. The scenery along the yank Se is stunning, so people think we'rever cruising for Europe, but China is another option for that as well. I haven't been to Shanghai, but I've heard that it is one of the most spectacular cities in the world. Vibrant, full of energy, very modern, very clean. So even the cities Beijing, Shanghai, pandas.
00:50:22
Speaker 8: Oh.
00:50:23
Speaker 12: Yeah, I know, we've got two of our own, but they have more.
00:50:25
Speaker 2: Yes, they've got a lot more. I've been to Shanghai. I when I was working at Sky News, managed to scam the bosses into sending me there for the port Adelaide game. Oh noice, I kind of. I pitched it and they said, absolutely not. Why would we send you all the way to China for a footy game. I said, well, there are stories off to the side, there's business deals to be made, and there's you know, and somehow I managed to convince them, and so.
00:50:51
Speaker 12: I got to go for that's good negotiating for a political journalist to cover that Port Adelaide game in Shanghai. That is exceptional on Stacy World done, thank.
00:51:00
Speaker 2: You, I think so.
00:51:01
Speaker 1: And it was.
00:51:02
Speaker 2: It was a really cool city. I was a little bit scared to go around because I extended my trip, you know, I covered what I needed to cover for work, and then I stayed on for a few days by myself, and it was a little bit intimidating being on your own. Not the people. The people were really lovely, but just the language barrier was really difficult. And being in such a big city where your phone doesn't work very well either. You needed to get a VPN and you know, Google Maps none of that worked, so it was hard. I did find it quite hard to get around on my own, but I think if I was a part of a tour, well.
00:51:35
Speaker 12: We worked with a company called Wendy Woo Tours and they have a great range of itineries in China and they also specialize in solo travel as well. They have a lot of tours with no solo supplement on them. So have a chat to a consultant about Wendy Wu.
00:51:49
Speaker 2: Yes, my mum did a Wendy Woo tour through Japan and she loved it because it was a real sort of local kind of way to do it too. It felt really authentic.
00:51:59
Speaker 12: Yeah, but think about a cruising the Yanks as well, that's something a little bit different.
00:52:03
Speaker 15: Yeah.
00:52:03
Speaker 5: Okay, yep, there you go.
00:52:05
Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about some changes traveling through Europe and then we'll bring in Kim into the conversation. From Ama Waterways five.
00:52:15
Speaker 1: Double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee.
00:52:19
Speaker 2: All right, we are in the middle of travel talk with Sally Murphy, solo travel coordinator at phil Hoffman Travel, and we mentioned going through the Middle East earlier. Sally, there's some good news for those wanting to travel to Europe. The advice for the Middle East has been changed.
00:52:37
Speaker 12: Yes, So the Australian government, via Smart Traveler have had a lot of the Middle East on a level four do not travel, which means travel insurance is not active if you transit or stop in any of those countries. So you go through Jubail Doha prior to last week, you trip over and break your leg, you're not covered by insurance because it do not travel. So now that the restrictions have been lifted to level three, that opens that area up a lot safer for people to go through. I mean we would the saying in the travel industry is if you can't afford the insurance, you can't afford the holiday. So we would always recommend to people that please, I know you're talking about health insurance before please take travel insurance, please read the product disclosure statement and please declare all pre existing medical conditions to make sure you're fully covered. But now you're insured going through. They've opened it up for Bahrain, Israel, Kwait, Qatar, and the UAE.
00:53:34
Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's good.
00:53:35
Speaker 12: I wouldn't probably wouldn't be going through a Run or leven On at the moment. That's still a level four, but the others are open again.
00:53:41
Speaker 2: They don't have a river cruise through the Strait of Hor moves. No, no, not an ideal destination. No, this person, Graham says, travel destinations. How about this time of year south of Spain. Maybe catch a Moto GP race while you're there.
00:53:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:53:55
Speaker 12: It's a bit hot though for me in Spain at this time of the year, So you're talking high thirties, So I think us in sort of January February. That's what they're experiencing in the med And I believe there's a heat wave in Europe at the moment as well. Oh gosh, okay, but if you're a redhead, then why not go to the Modo GB.
00:54:12
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. And Graham, if you go to Spain anytime soon, you'll see one David Pemberthy there as well, so you can say hi while you're there. All right, let's bring in Kim Vaughan. She's the regional sales manager of AMMA Waterways.
00:54:26
Speaker 1: Hi Kim, Hi, how are you going good?
00:54:29
Speaker 15: Thank you for having me.
00:54:30
Speaker 2: No, that's all right, thank you for your time. We were just talking about river cruising and we know Australians love it.
00:54:35
Speaker 12: Heim Sally, Hey, great to see from me south Yep.
00:54:41
Speaker 15: Yes, indeed, Ossie do love a good river cruise.
00:54:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what destinations do you go to at Amma, Oh, we do a lot.
00:54:52
Speaker 15: We do all of your major rivers in Europe, so the big Tray that most people know, the Rhine, the Mine, the Danube. We do all your meat rivers in France. We do the Douro in Portugal. But in addition to that, closer to home, we've got the Mekong in Asia. In Africa, we do the North and South, so we're on the Nile in Egypt, We're on the Chobi in Southern Africa, and as of April last year, we started on the Magdalena River in Colombia in South America.
00:55:34
Speaker 12: That's the one I'm most excited about.
00:55:36
Speaker 5: I would love to do that.
00:55:37
Speaker 15: Wow, it's getting rave reviews. In fact, we just launched our second ship in April this year. So certainly very immersive, very experiential. So if you're thinking to kick off the world's most second of Earth by the world's second most biodiverse country. You love a bit of culture, you love a bit of dancing and some fabulous food, absolutely put it on your list.
00:56:10
Speaker 12: Who doesn't love a bit of dancing? Kim you do?
00:56:17
Speaker 2: Now there you go, Now, Kim whenever we talk about cruising, there's always different definitions of all inclusive or what's included in your fair? Is fair there?
00:56:28
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's absolutely that's a fair call. We sort of position ourselves, I guess as a premium all inclusive cruise line because with us, we find our guests love to be very much physically active. So we've included all of your sure excursions. We've included all of your dining, and that's at multiple restaurants, including our specialty restaurant, the Chef's Table. Think seven course DEGA stations with matched wine. There's nothing extra to pay for that, or your meals or your chips are included, or your Wi Fi. Of course, we have a sleep of bikes on our European ships, and more importantly, all of our ships have a pool, a dedicated wellness host, a sip and sail cocktail hour, So you know, we feel we cover everything that a guest would want and need.
00:57:41
Speaker 2: The daily excursions, I think is a big one because they can they can add up.
00:57:45
Speaker 12: Yeah, when you look at it, you look at ocean cruising, the cost of excursions can almost be as much as the fair. That's the great thing about the Waterways is those excursions are all included, you've paid for them before you left, Yeah, and it's.
00:57:57
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right.
00:57:58
Speaker 2: It's probably more of an encouragement to explore the destination.
00:58:04
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it.
00:58:05
Speaker 15: We get feedback all the time where our guests want to be immersed more into places that they visit. The ship is the vehicle to get you there if you like. But of course you can effectively design your own adventure at the end of the gangway and do as much or as little as you like. So whether that's a food related shore excursion, an active hike, a bike ride, maybe you're an avid photographer and you want to join one of our gentle walking groups. There is honestly something for everyone. And because we have smaller groups, you never have a shore excursion of more than twenty guests, so it's very immersive and it's a lot more personal.
00:58:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good size. I think you form a tour director, are you.
00:59:02
Speaker 12: By Sally's Herding Cats?
00:59:08
Speaker 5: Yeah?
00:59:08
Speaker 2: Right, And so tell us about the rooms on board the Amma Waterways cruisers, because you've got some some balcony rooms which I love.
00:59:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do.
00:59:17
Speaker 15: We have a variety of staterooms. So your entry level stateroom or a leading which is often what we refer to, but your entry level stateroom varies on the ship and the destination. So if you're cruising with us in Europe, your entry level stateroom is a fixed window so you can still see out and your stateroom's a good size. Then that we go up to a French balcony stateroom or something that we innovated. It's called the twin balcony stateroom, so that's when space and views are everything. So we're famous for our signature twins staterooms. What that means is that you have both a French balcony and a sit outside Verandah because we know a natural airflow is a big thing for our Australian guests. And in addition to that, we have staterooms that are triple share, quad share and interconnecting, so that works really really well for friends traveling together, or we get a lot of multi generational families. It might be grandparents with teenage grandkids, or there's something for everyone. So again it just lends itself to a wide variety of guests.
01:00:53
Speaker 12: And today you've got to realize that river cruising, particularly in Europe for example, because of the width of the locks that the ship's us through. It's not like an ocean cruise ship where you can add a balcony and extend the width of the ship, because then they won't fit. So you've got to be able to bring the outside in as much as a guest stepping outside. So they have innovated with the way they've designed their twin balconies.
01:01:16
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:01:16
Speaker 2: Wow, I love that idea, being able to sit out on the balcony and take it all in because on those as you mentioned, narrow it sort of rivers, you would feel like you're you're right there.
01:01:26
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, you can always touch the bank.
01:01:29
Speaker 2: Wow, that's very cool.
01:01:31
Speaker 15: And when you're passing through the locks, you can actually touch the wolves, although we don't advocate fingers in the hole, but you can actually retch out and touch the walls as you're passing through.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was after cocktail hour and it might be risky.
01:01:50
Speaker 12: Hang onto those false snails if you're doing.
01:01:54
Speaker 2: Oh well, Kim, thank you so much for your time and telling us all about it. Really appreciate it all.
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Speaker 15: Right, more seeing we'll just add before I go, we also get a lot of solo travelers traveling with Armor Waterways. So not only do we have ships with dedicated staterooms for solo travelers, we also right now have around eighty departures across twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven that only have a ten percent single supplement for a solo traveler, and that is any stateroom category from an entry level right up to our twin balconies. Wow, they go and includes those as well. So if there are solos listening, definitely consider Armor Waterways, but most importantly speak to your Phil Hoffman Travel consultants and they will sort you out.
01:02:55
Speaker 12: Just another plug for Kim. Phil Hofman Travel had their Luxury Day in laid on Saturday from ten till two, and Kim is going to be here, So jump onto the Phil Hoffman website. Kim, you're doing a presentation on Saturday, aren't you?
01:03:08
Speaker 15: I certainly am.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: So people can register on PHT dot com do au and come along and hear Kim talk even in more detail about Emma Waterways. She's a great glib speaker.
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Speaker 15: You're very kind.
01:03:22
Speaker 2: How's that for a plug?
01:03:23
Speaker 1: Kim?
01:03:24
Speaker 15: I love us.
01:03:27
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you for coming on and telling us a bit about it. And yeah, if you want to hear some more, head along on Saturday for the Luxury Day. Head to the Phil Hoffman Travel website to book.
01:03:37
Speaker 15: Thanks Kim, my pleasure, Thank you so much, have a wonderful laughter.
01:03:42
Speaker 2: Name you too, I see you. That's Kim Vaughan from AMMA Waterways. Yes, so tell us more about the Luxury Day. What else can people expect on Saturday selling.
01:03:52
Speaker 12: We've got an incredible range of suppliers coming, so land operators, ocean cruise operators, river operators, There'll be multiple seminars between ten and two. They are filling up, so I do recommend you jump onto PHT dot com do AU and register for the seminars you want. You'll get a glass of bubbles when you arrive. Very nice, and we've got some incredible and exclusive deals to Phil Hoffman Travel, so you're going to get up to forty percent savings on some of the product that's going to be there on the day, So it is definitely worth coming along.
01:04:23
Speaker 2: Is there a ticket price?
01:04:24
Speaker 12: No, no, no, it's totally free, totally free, yes, So come on and get a free glass of bubbles if nothing else.
01:04:29
Speaker 2: Yes, sounds good to me. Mentioning that solo supplement only a ten percent solo supplement for waterways, is that good?
01:04:37
Speaker 12: That is superb right, some companies it's one hundred percent single supplement, so you're basically paying the same cost that two people would pay in a room just for having one in there. So ten percent is incredible, such a good deal.
01:04:52
Speaker 2: And you mentioned some other tour operators don't have any was it Wendy Woo No, Wendy Wood.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, they have some tours with no single supplements all. So it's just knowing the consultants know who those operators are. So if you're traveling solow, you don't need to have to pay double. That's not fair, No, it's not.
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Speaker 2: Well, we are the solo of travel coordinator. You would get this all the time.
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Speaker 12: Well, and I'm a solo traveler, so I don't like paying it either.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:05:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mum's in the same boat. She often, you know, when she travels alone. It's I mean, I do understand it, but it's not fair.
01:05:23
Speaker 12: I do get it as well, because it's about real estate. You're paying for the space. But yeah, it's good when you find a reputable, excellent company like Emma Waterways that don't charge you excessively.
01:05:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, well Sally, it's always good to see you. Thank you for coming in and I assume you'll be at.
01:05:41
Speaker 12: Luxury Day No oh no, I've got a day off. Oh, good on you, yod on me. I will also just mention that we've got another event down at Aglenelk office on Monday next week, the twenty ninth of June with inspiring vacations. So if your freez starts at six o'clock and they'll be talking a range of just different destinations all across Europe Asia, so yep, register for that as well. That's on pht dot com dot au under events.
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Speaker 12: Yep, we're all the way from Nurip to Victor Harvest, so there's one near you.
01:06:23
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01:06:33
Speaker 12: Thanks ta see soon.
01:06:35
Speaker 2: It is now time for the three o'clock news here on five double A. After that, the Police Association has voted this afternoon on whether or not its members agree to move a no confidence motion in Police Commissioner Grant Stevens. You will hear from the head of the union, Wade Burns. Next we'll see how that vote went. And then we're talking data centers. If you've got thoughts on them, I'd love to hear it. Eight double two three double o double O five.
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Double A Afternoons with Stacey Lee.
01:07:08
Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. Welcome to the third and final hour of the afternoon's program and it is a big hour. Very soon we're talking about data centers because the state government has announced its planned for data centers in South Australia. They want more, more of them, but why do we need them. We'll talk about it soon and i'd love your thoughts on eight double two three double o double oh. Then after three point thirty it's Turkey Tuesday. Nominate your Turkey of the week who's done something silly and deserves to be called out on the radio for it. I have a case of Turkey Flat Vineyard cans to give away. This is the award winning turkey flat wines that come in a beautiful glass bottle, but they also come in a can, and I've got a mixed twenty four pack to give away. It'll have their rose, their pinogree and their Shiraz granash for the best Turkey nomination this afternoon, plus so many more tickets. Tickets to the Beer and Barbecue Festival, double pass to go and see the Lark with Nony Hazlehurst at the Adelaide Festival Center, A double pass to illuminate. I mean it would be hard not to win tickets this hour, and you know what, I'm just going to give some away now. Call now if you want to go to Beer and Barbecue Fest eight double two to three double double O five double A's Ultimate Friday Knockoffs at Beer and Barbecue Fest. This is on the tenth of July. We've got two tickets, a ticket for you and a mate in the VIP area. We'll chuck in some beers as well and some delicious barbecue food. So if you'd like to head along, get on the phone now brought to you by Adelaide Beer and Barbecue Festival. It's back now at the drive in the city. Tickets from Beer Barbecuefest dot com dot au. But first up this hour, the South Australian Police Union has had a vote this afternoon. They were voting on whether or not to pass a no confidence motion in Police Commissioner Grant Stephens and Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams. Wade Burns is the President of the Police Union and joins you now, good afternoon.
01:09:06
Speaker 16: Made good afternoon, Stacy.
01:09:08
Speaker 2: What did how did members decide to vote?
01:09:12
Speaker 1: Well?
01:09:12
Speaker 16: Today elected delegates of the Police Association, and those delegates, I must say, are elected by their peers and they represent police officers from both metropolitan, regional and specialist work groups from across all of South Australia. They met today and delegates discussed and debated a range of issues and during the course of that meeting delegates passed to vote of no confidence in Commissioner Grant Stevens and Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams.
01:09:41
Speaker 5: So past.
01:09:44
Speaker 16: It did, Stacey. Four of forty eight delegates passed that vote of no confidence and I think it's really just important to note that delegates represent work groups across all of South Australia and in those works groups more than ninety five percent Police Association members.
01:10:04
Speaker 2: So what does this mean now that there's been a no confidence vote?
01:10:09
Speaker 16: Yes, Stacy, Well, I guess that that's really a matter for the Police Commissioner, the Deputy Commissioner and government. I guess what I will say to that, Stace is it's really pretty difficult to ignore when the overwhelming majority of the workforce have no confident confidence in their leadership. And I guess I would just say to government, the Commissioner and deputy that they really should ignore this at their peril.
01:10:36
Speaker 2: What was the reason for it? Is there a particular reason that the no confidence motion got up? Is there a particular issue that you're campaigning for at the moment or Stacy?
01:10:48
Speaker 16: This isn't about campaigning, and it's not necessarily about about one decision or policy or one reason delegates of the Association met today. They didn't reach this decision lightly, but there has been a cumulative effect of decisions where members today spoke about operational performance, organizational reform, leadership, morale, and they decided through the delegates meeting process that they have no confidence in Commissioner Grant Stevens or Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams to lead SAPOLE through its next phase of reform or to restore workforce confidence.
01:11:28
Speaker 2: Okay, since the commissioner's role is not voted on by the police workforce, he's appointed by the government, so it's not as if he has to stand down now as a result of this vote. What do you think happens next from here?
01:11:45
Speaker 16: Well, I guess it's not my place to call for somebody's professional resignation, and that's certainly not what delegates have instructed me to do. Delegates met today representing their workforce. They've passed a vote of no confidence and squarely put the ball in the commissioner and Deputy Commissioner's court, and that's really where it currently rests.
01:12:07
Speaker 2: And so this isn't about I know that there was some back and forth over the years about the district policing model that was ditched? Was it earlier this year? That was the way for those listening who don't really know much about it, the way sapol's workforce was structured. So it's not necessarily about that.
01:12:28
Speaker 16: No, Stacy. That's correct. It's not just about the district policing model. The district policing model has however, been assessed in twenty twenty five as no longer sustainable in its current form, and that was resulting as results of a number of reasons in relation to structural mismatch between demand, staffing capacity, and workload. But what delegates spoke about today was that operational outcomes have deteriorated under the current model. There's significantly reduced proactive police capacity, there's an increased reactive demand, and I guess rising workload complexity. It's also important to note that delegates some nearly four years ago now met and passed a vote of no confidence in the district policing model itself. Yet they're still they're still operating under the same model. But that was only one element of the discussion today.
01:13:21
Speaker 2: Okay, so what could the police commissioner or the deputy have done, I guess differently to ensure this no confidence motion wasn't voted up. What is it that you're calling for them to do better at well?
01:13:37
Speaker 16: Delegates in the room today, I guess demonstrated a feeling in the room was one of frustration, anger, and there was a real sense that much of the objective data shows a deep line in morale, in retention of police officers and increase in hr bureaucracy. And it was really unmistakable that elected delegates representing their work groups have no confidence in the Commissioner or deputy to lead the reform through the next stage of SAYPOLE or to lead and design a new policing model. Delegates, to their credit, made courageous decisions today after debate and discussion, and they have come to the decision as they have.
01:14:22
Speaker 2: And just before you go, Wade Burns, president of the Police Association of South Australia, We've been speaking recently to the Nurses' Union a lot about their strike action. They are in talks with the government they'd like pay rise and every time that comes up, I get text messages from who I assume are members of SAYPOLE saying that their EBA is up for negotiation as well. I wasn't aware of that. Where are you at with bargaining agreements with the state government at the moment? Is that up for negotiation?
01:14:53
Speaker 16: Yeah?
01:14:53
Speaker 9: It is?
01:14:54
Speaker 16: See that is right. If SAYPOLE and Police Association members are telling you that The fact is we are working with the government collaboratively to formalize a multi year agreement with them. That negotiation process has not yet finalized, and we're currently working through that with the government. But I think it's also important to note that this meeting today had nothing to do with enterprise bargaining. Almost really every issue discussed today by the delegates predates the current eb process by several years. And really the concerns raised by delegates relate to workforce sustainability, operational performance, and leadership accountability, and those issues have been raised repeatedly over a long period.
01:15:36
Speaker 2: Okay, so today's today's vote wasn't based on the EBA negotiations, but just on the EBA negotiations. How close do you think you are to a deal and do you feel the state government is listening to SA Paul's workforce and in payment increased demands.
01:15:55
Speaker 16: Well, we're working closely with government to progress negotiations for the enterprise agreement deal. Our advocacy achieved an administrative arm arrangement which saw several pay rises and improved conditions over the last few years. But we're working closely with them to implement a formal enterprise agreement which will cover the SAYPOLE employees and parts of members for the coming few years.
01:16:20
Speaker 2: However due is it.
01:16:22
Speaker 16: Well, the administrative arrangement has been in effect for the last couple of years and that has resulted in some change working conditions which we have worked through with Government and SAYPOLE for implementation, and the new agreement will take effect effectively from the point at time where that can be ratified as agreed by all the parties involved in that process, which I should point out is not only the Police Association and Government but also Saypole.
01:16:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it is overdue. Once an agreement has reached, it'll start straight.
01:16:51
Speaker 16: Away, that's right, and we are working as quickly as we can with government to finalize that agreement. But today's discussion of the delegates was not about Enterprise Barger okay.
01:17:02
Speaker 2: Two separate matters, Yeah, got it. Begs for your.
01:17:05
Speaker 16: Time, Wade Stacy, thank you for having me on see you.
01:17:08
Speaker 2: That's Wade Burns, the president of the Police Association of South Australia. It's a quarter past three here on five double A. After this we're talking data centers, so if you've got some thoughts on them, I'd love to hear them because the State Government has released its strategy for data centers in South Australia. They want them, but I want to know why do we need them. You're going to hear from Jeff Webb. He's an expert in this, so he'll be able to answer your questions. Oh and congratulations to Ana Lisa in Torrensville. You are heading along to the Beer and Barbecue Festival. It's back now at the drive in the city. You can get tickets at Beer Barbecuefest dot com dot AU.
01:17:49
Speaker 1: Five double A afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:17:54
Speaker 2: Data centers there are hot button issue at the moment with news. It feels like almost every day of a new data center planned somewhere in Australia, and quite a few of them have been planned for South Australia. And today the State government unveiled its data center strategy. Basically they want more of them in South Australia and they've said that we don't want them to have a negative impact on power bills, so they need to ensure energy supplies brought online to support them. They want to make sure it's sustainable use of water for these data centers. So there's these big conversations being had about them all over Australia, all over the world in fact, but I wonder why do we need them? Professor Jeff Webb joins you now. He's a distinguished professor at the Department of Data Science and Artificial Intelligence at Monash University. Good afternoon, Jeff, how are you?
01:18:53
Speaker 11: Goods? They see a pleasure to talk to you.
01:18:56
Speaker 2: So why do we need data centers in Australia. We know that there are some overseas at the moment, and you know a lot of people are using AI quite adequately at the moment. Why do we need them here?
01:19:08
Speaker 11: So we're in the middle of the AI revolution. It's a technology revolution comparable in magnitude to the Industrial Revolution, introduction of the automobile, the development of computers and the Internet, and AI runs on computers. Computers need to be housed in data centers. And if Australia wants to share in the profits to be made from AI, then we have to have the infrastructure to run and control our own systems. Quite simply, if we use American systems, Americans are going to make all the profit from this revolution.
01:19:47
Speaker 2: And so who makes the profit? Is it the company that builds the data centers or does do state governments get any money from having a data center here?
01:19:58
Speaker 11: That's one of the the big big debates.
01:20:02
Speaker 4: How do we ensure that.
01:20:05
Speaker 11: The money made by these systems remain in Australia. So if we are just hosting data centers that are running AI systems that are developed and controlled by international corporations, then indeed a lot of the money will go over seeds. Okay, this is one of the debates we have to have.
01:20:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And whenever we talk about a data center being built, there's a lot of discussion about jobs as well. You know, it's a few usually a few hundred during construction, and then maybe one hundred or so ongoing. I understand that the construction jobs. It's always the ongoing jobs that is interesting to me because how do they hire How does a data center hire workers? And are they local jobs or are they overseas jobs to do with I don't know that the information and the cloud, for example.
01:21:01
Speaker 11: Certainly it would be possible to have a few remote workers one of these centers, but that's the reason why they're typically built in suburban locations rather than in the middle of nowhere. So you need electricians. One of the things computers in the data centers do is generate lots of heat, so you need cooling specialists. Of course, you need it professionals to actually run the computers and keep them secure, and then facilities managers, guards, cleaners, so it goes on.
01:21:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a big one planned for South Australia by a company called Iron and they've planned it for Bundy, which is a town two and a half hours northeast of Adelaide, and it's a town of no people, so I wonder how they'll keep it running in a town of no people.
01:22:00
Speaker 11: That town is going to have to get a population pretty soon. I think the cleaners aren't going to want to commute from two and a half hours away in order to clean the place. And you need security guards on these things. You can forward to have a maybe billion dollar investments and just to allow Old vand Or to come in destroy the joint.
01:22:28
Speaker 2: And it's a huge one as well that's planned. It's apparently going to be one of the biggest in Australia if it's built in twenty twenty eight. Is the plan needs eight hundred megawatts of electricity, which I'm told is the equivalent of powering eight hundred thousand homes in Australia. So these things they chew through electricity and they need a lot of water as well.
01:22:50
Speaker 11: Don't they are They certainly very water hungry. That's one of the big problems with them, especially in a dry continent like outs. But are there many reasons why Australia is a preferred destination for data centers Despite our lack of water, we do have a lot of sun, so solar power is a very attractive way of powering powering things. And if you're looking around the world for a secure place to build things where you're not at risk of governments are doing unexpected things, let us say to your business, Australia's a fairly good plates. So if you're looking at making a billion dollar investment, Australia's a pretty attractive plates circumstances.
01:23:49
Speaker 2: And what about the impacts of AI generally on jobs? I was reading a piece in the fin Review, was it last week or the week before, and they were sort of speculating that up to thirty percent of the Australian workforce could be replaced by AI in the next ten to twenty years. I think it was. I just thought, Wow, that's I mean, it's a huge amount, huge number, and lots of people are speculating on different figures, but we need to face facts. There will be people who lose their jobs due to AI.
01:24:21
Speaker 11: Yes, certainly jobs are going to be replaced, it's not so many jobs. Perhaps where at least in the short term an AI system is going to be able to come along and replace me as a professor. But it may be that the university needs fewer professors overall because AI is able to help us do our jobs more efficiently, I think, rather than discreet people just becoming redundant. It's going to be typically that some function within an organization that currently requires ten staff may only require eight staff, or maybe five staff, or maybe three staff. And we don't know just how far it's going to go in each particular type of job.
01:25:15
Speaker 2: So I'm an AI novice. A lot of it worries me, so I'm a bit too scared to use it. You're the expert, Jeff. What's your overall feeling on AI? Are you worried about it?
01:25:28
Speaker 11: Well, I'm by nature and optimist. In previous tech revolutions, new jobs have always been created, So the Industrial Revolution replaced a lot of weavers, but if you look at the professions of today, many of them didn't exist one hundred years ago. So people are very inventive and very good at creating new jobs. And until fairly recently, I've been pretty optimistic that was going to happen yet again. But the thing I've come to realize is this is unrolling so rapidly that I just don't think there's going to be the time to create new jobs at the rate that it may well be required. So I think Australia really needs to wake up and start taking action about this, like the South Australia government is starting to do with its data center strategy, but we really need to think very deeply about how we're going to make sure that the benefits for this day in Australia, rather than just being an opportunity for big tech turn siphon money out of our economy, and that we don't hold this balls allow automation to replace jobs without there being genuine advantages in doing so.
01:27:00
Speaker 2: Absolutely couldn't agree more. And you mentioned, you know, retraining people or finding extra jobs. The retraining is the part that I worry about, because this is all happening so quickly that if you did want to retrain, you know, go back to UNI or TAPE and get a trade. I feel like electricians are the way of the future, connecting all the data centers and maintaining all the wires, and you know they'll always be You always need hairdressers. I hope a robot will never be cutting my hair. You'll always need trades. But we know that retraining to get a trade takes a number of years, so these jobs will be taken away sooner than you can retrain people.
01:27:40
Speaker 11: Yes, so we need to be getting ahead of the curve and making sure that we've got the capacity to do the retraining necessary, that we're thinking about what the new jobs should be, but also to make sure that we aren't just replacing human workers with machines without there being a genuine advantage in doing so. So there are many structural incentives in the Australian economy, or in most developed economies for replacing people with machines. So, for example, to employ a person, you pay payroll tax, but you're also effectively paying their income tax. So somebody on an average Australian income takes home about ninety five thousand dollars, but the employer needs to pay them one hundred and twenty thousand dollars so they can then pay the tax to the government, and then the employer pays another five thousand dollars in payroll tax. So the employer's paying one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to somebody who's actually getting paid ninety five thousand dollars, Whereas if you replace them with a robot, then you actually get tax into for doing that.
01:29:02
Speaker 2: Gosh.
01:29:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
01:29:05
Speaker 11: We can't suddenly change the text system, but we need to think very deeply about what these incentives are and what we can do to counter them.
01:29:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:29:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a whole other can of worms that I hadn't thought about. Thanks for Thanks for raising it, Jeff.
01:29:22
Speaker 11: Thanks very much the opportunity to talk to you.
01:29:27
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate your time.
01:29:28
Speaker 11: A time of great change and good to just bury our heads in the sand. We really need to confront these problems and try to get ahead of them.
01:29:39
Speaker 2: Absolutely, no, will, I appreciate your insights. Thank you, Thanks see you. That's Jeff Webb, Distinguished Professor at the Department of Data Science and AI at Monash University. I'd love your thoughts on eight double two to three double O, double O, Emily says, as a journalist and copywriter, AI is my enemy and I'm terrify, terrified and broke. Yeah, You're not alone there, Emily.
01:30:04
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
01:30:06
Speaker 2: Keep your thoughts coming. Eight double two three double O double o's the number to call, or you can call now if you'd like to win a double pass to go and see The Lark at Adelaide Festival Center with Nony Hazelhurst as the solo woman on stage Adelaide Festival Center from tomorrow the twenty fifth of June through until the fifth of July. Get your tickets now at Ticketech or a double pass right now. Time for news headlines and then Turkey Tuesday. Get your Turkey nominations in five.
01:30:37
Speaker 1: Double A afternoons with Stacy Lee.
01:30:42
Speaker 2: Congratulations Glenn in Littlehampton. You are going along to see the Lark at Adelaide Festival Center. Stay listening. This week I'll have more opportunities for tickets, so don't worry if you missed out. Eight double two three double O double OW is the number to call. Like your Turkey nominations, Who deserves a call out on the radio who's done something silly this week? And as always I will enforce the politician free zone. I think we all agree all politicians are turkeys at times, so let's not even bother nominating the politicians for Turkey Tuesday.
01:31:17
Speaker 1: Ha ha.
01:31:19
Speaker 2: We love a self nomination. If you've done something wrong, maybe you forgot to take the bins out. My poor mum gets to mention almost every week because you've mixed the baking soda and baking powder. I think it was in a recipe once and didn't taste too great. Sorry Mum always mentioned that as an example. Still love her and a cooking Please don't stop cooking for me, but get on the phone to nominate your Turkey of the week. There is a case of Turkey Flat Vineyards wines in a can to give away, so you'll get a mixed pack some of the rose Pinot Gree and some of the Shiraz Grenash as well. It takes some more of your calls now on AI though, and Edwin and Campbelltown's.
01:31:59
Speaker 17: Called in to they say you look, I think that the what the government's doing is a very unwise move and I think that they're.
01:32:07
Speaker 4: It's not what you know.
01:32:08
Speaker 17: This put like you just spoke to on there before about AI. He says, we'll be about about us meeting it. Well, we I don't need it myself. I don't personally I need it.
01:32:17
Speaker 11: I don't want it.
01:32:18
Speaker 17: It's three it's just rubbish and it's needless technology. And the thing is that we live in a breed. You don't have that much water in this country now, these these AI data centers are very water hungry, and they will that will dry up the Mori Reville betweet so much to ten it will probably dry up a lot of the water in this country. And then all the bird life, the animal life will die and we'll live in a barent ways because of this AI technology. And also not only that, people like yourself and your your announces like yourself and others on fub the Way and many other places of radio stations will lose their jobs. You want have a job anymore, you'll be you'll be in AI and first we'll be trying to take your face instead. And you know, I think it's a totally it's a terrible thing that's happening. I think you can't just go on the bandwagon and say you know, because everyone wants it. Well, I don't want people don't want it. The people in the Americans don't want it. I mean they have none what to drink, you know, because of what has all found, because they say they have they can't sleep at night time because it wasn't constant buzzy. I mean, honestly, this is Dubbles should be Morganson about people, the homeless people, about the possibiling and all that sort of thing, because it'll only drop a price everywhere.
01:33:33
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Edwin, and thanks for making me feel very secure in my job. I appreciate it, s you. I mean, he's right. It's scary, but he's right. There's some radio stations are using AI news readers, and by the way, they've been very inaccurate and defamatory at times. So bosses, if you're listening, not good. Not good. Steven happy Balily wants to talk about electricity as.
01:34:01
Speaker 7: Well, High Steve, I do say, and just picking up on that caller data centers. Yes, they use a lot of water and also a lot of electricity, and that's where they're having a lot of problems. A number of states in the United States are now demanding that small modulate reactors, nuclear reactors be put in in there because it's so because their power bills have gone up. A lot of the power bills have gone up in a number of I think about four or five of the states in the United States. So that's an issue, and certainly what is going to be an issue there. So i'd agree with with your last caller about that. I think your job save those stations.
01:34:43
Speaker 2: Thanks you, I hope.
01:34:44
Speaker 7: So I do want to talk about electricity though. I've opened up my letter from my electricity retailer, and contrary to what politicians will tell you, the renewables, the cheap of making nervytives cheap that I haven't seen. Not one of the items has gone down. The daily supply charge is going up, which is your network, and polls and and every and every other whether it's a solace, sponge or off peak or peak, they've all they've all gone up. So I'm sure I'm not going to be any orphan there. Even though governments were telling us that there might be a small charge, that's not true. And I think when people get their letters like I have, I think.
01:35:26
Speaker 18: They'll be open to a rude awakening.
01:35:29
Speaker 7: So Unfortunately, we're not a ladder. They can't give a turkey to the to the politicians, so I'll say that one.
01:35:37
Speaker 2: Why don't we give it to the electricity company instead?
01:35:41
Speaker 7: Well, you can, but this is where governments really I don't think they really hold them hold them accountable. I really really don't. That's that's that's the thing. And I've done a fair bit of studying into this. And of course you've only got to the first of July to make up your mind, so you're going to have to give as apologies will tell you. You've got to go phone up different electricity stations.
01:36:05
Speaker 10: Now.
01:36:06
Speaker 7: I'm retired, I'm an age pension. I'm retired, but I'm thinking about some of the younger ones who are perhaps both work and that, well, they're gonna have a bit of trouble trying to be able to make that phone call.
01:36:18
Speaker 9: To deal with it.
01:36:21
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Steve. I got my letter the other day, not for electricity yet. I'm waiting for that one. I've got my gas increase letter the other day and it's been on my to do list since I think it was Thursday. I haven't really had time yet, but at some point I'll make the phone call and get it done. But Steve, just so you know, tomorrow on the program, I'm going to have a chat about it because I know everyone's getting their electricity new prices from their electricity provider at the moment gas as well, So we're going to have a chat, a proactive chat, solutions focused chat on what you can do, how can you ensure you're getting the best deal on your electricity? A bit of a step by step guy on what to do when you open that letter and you spit out your tea or coffee or wine, beer, whatever you're drinking at the time because the price has gone up?
01:37:08
Speaker 1: What do you do?
01:37:08
Speaker 2: Step by step? So we'll do that tomorrow on the afternoon's program. So make sure you're listening then, Steve. But thank you for the call. Eight double two three, double o double OW.
01:37:18
Speaker 6: Time to call in and nominate your Turkey of the week for Stacey Lee's Turkey Tuesday.
01:37:26
Speaker 2: Andrew in Ridge Haven has called in.
01:37:29
Speaker 9: Hi, Andrew, Hey, going Stacey. Good Now, this is just between you and me, right.
01:37:35
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I won't tell anyone.
01:37:38
Speaker 9: Okay, good, okay.
01:37:41
Speaker 11: I listened to.
01:37:43
Speaker 9: Your radio station a night via an app to my hearing aid, yeah, and normally wake up around with the early breakfast guys are on, and then blend it in and out of sleep, listening to Will and Dave, pe you okay, sorry anyway, every and again it cuts out, okay, So I have to basically lean over and just just a press the screen and started up. I must have done something. I think it was either Friday morning or yesterday morning. And when I reached across, I was listening to Will and David. I dozed back off to sleep and then came back maybe a minute or two later, and was then signing off this show with Behind Closed Doors, and I meant to think to myself, Ah, they finally got behind closed They've come to their sensors and got and blaking back.
01:38:35
Speaker 18: How terrific.
01:38:36
Speaker 9: Anyway, it then went on to play the guy's dame who films in on the evening nights Andrew Ymer sorry, his name was what Andrew Raimer And it was him talking about the Ukraine War, and I'm thinking, oh, this is fantastic. They finally go after what happened with your program? They's say, great, cha had on and he was here the bording back then when I went to jump out of bed because that finished it. It just went dead. I looked at my phone and it was actually a podcast I clicked onto on my phone from twenty twenty two, So I'm the Turkey of the week.
01:39:16
Speaker 2: That's a very good one, Andrew. I love that listening to the news from four or five years ago, thinking, oh, good Ukraine wars ending. That's great to hear. Oh Blake, he's back. Good one.
01:39:29
Speaker 5: I like it.
01:39:30
Speaker 2: Thanks, Andrew. Let's get a Dean in Flinders Park, Hidine, Hi.
01:39:35
Speaker 18: How are you going? Last Saturday night before the Crow's game, a commentator interviewed Matthew Nicks. He's got a job to do, a professional job to do, and her question was, are you going to let Madra's illness interfere in your coaching? What do you think he's going to do? What do you mean, well, he's got a professional job to do. Do you think anything, anything besides his job to be done, is going to interfere in his coaching. He'd have to concentrate on his game, not worry about Moder's illness or whatever. Right, that was absolutely stupid to ask and it shouldn't have been that. Okay, he's got a prosessional job.
01:40:21
Speaker 2: Sure all right, thanks for the call, Dean, No worries see you the commentator interviewing Nixy before the game. Thank you for that. I'll take some more calls in just a moment. I have just had Melussia from the newsroom come in and hand me a statement from the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens. This is following the vote of no confidence from the delegate members of the Police Association. It's a very lengthy statement, so I won't be able to read out the whole thing, but he says, I am aware of the step being taken by the Police Association of South Australia and have spoken to the Premier. He's told me and stated publicly that Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams and I have his full and confidence. The Police Union's step is disappointing because while the delegates have expressed their opinion, it is not reflective of the daily feedback I receive through my constant interaction with the front line. He goes on to talk about crime being down, public confidence being high, and significantly say pole resources are at historic record levels and are continuing to increase. He says there is more to do. He announced changes to the policing model last week, and he's focusing on continuing to ease the pressure on the workforce, addressing key issues responsible and introducing meaningful change to address them. Regrettably, oh he says history shows that better outcomes are achieved for say Pole and members when there is a professional and collaborative approach. Regrettably, this does not appear to be the union's current approach. So the the Police Commissioner Grant Stephens's response to the vote of no confidence by delegate members of the Police Union just a short time ago, KEI calls coming eight double two three double O double OW five.
01:42:03
Speaker 1: Double A afternoons with Stacey Lee.
01:42:08
Speaker 2: All right, got some more turkey calls to get to. But before we do, Rowe and Timmy g are coming on after four o'clock and Rowie's in the studio.
01:42:16
Speaker 19: Hello Steven, Hello Stacy Lee. See which one of these? I'm going to make a turkey of myself. I'm loving the World Cup Socceros versus Paraguay, eleven thirty eight m Friday morning.
01:42:27
Speaker 1: Go you good things.
01:42:28
Speaker 2: Yes, that's pretty good and good time as well.
01:42:30
Speaker 4: I love it.
01:42:31
Speaker 19: Port's premiership star Dean Brogan will be in the studio, so too Matt Crouch from the Crows Showdown sixty and the Crows will win by ten goals plus. Is that the turkey comment? I love it, Edie Reguire from Melbourne and we've got McGary medallist Tom Lewis so.
01:42:46
Speaker 2: Big show after for looking forward to it. Rowie, thank you for that. I guess we'll see on Saturday if that was a turkey comment or not. Let's take some more of your calls now. Peter's in Westlake, Hi, Peter.
01:42:58
Speaker 13: Hi, Stacey Today Spine the Sunny Tuesday afternoon, Good.
01:43:02
Speaker 2: Good, who's turkey?
01:43:05
Speaker 13: It's my dad, my dear dad.
01:43:07
Speaker 4: Stay Stacey.
01:43:07
Speaker 9: It's a bit of a belated turks.
01:43:09
Speaker 13: I'm not sure if you've got a statute of limitations on Tuesday, but go for it. Okay, this is let me give you quick background. My parents are immagg from Italy in the sixties, right, so my dad's not very domestic, had in the kitchen. So one day this is my mom and my mom goes, your dad. He'd driving me crazy, I said.
01:43:27
Speaker 18: Mom, what's happened?
01:43:28
Speaker 2: He goes?
01:43:29
Speaker 13: She goes to a certain days. She wasn't feeling well. She she goes, luidg you please are making me a cup of tea. He goes, no worry for me, I'll make you a cup of tea. So Stacey goes in the kitchen, right, he gets those cattles, the cattle. You know there's kettles, those round kettles, a bit flat that you put on the on the stove.
01:43:44
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
01:43:46
Speaker 13: He puts the water in there. He puts on the stove and it turns the gas on. Anyway, about a minute later he's screaming and cursing in Italian, and my mom gets up and goes, wait, look, did you what happened?
01:43:57
Speaker 9: That's what he did, Stacey.
01:43:59
Speaker 13: He puts he put the electric cattle. He thought it was it was a nurture cattle. Literally just stiffed the plastic. It was a plastic electric kettle when he destroyed it.
01:44:15
Speaker 8: I love that.
01:44:15
Speaker 2: That is absolute turkey behavior. That's a great nomination, Peter, thanks for the call. Let's go to Ash and Colonel like Gardens Hi.
01:44:24
Speaker 10: Ash Staty my worker here, and he's my turkey almost every day actually, but particularly Tuesday. He's trying to uh screw something down on a piece timber and it's clearly not working for him, and I'm just laughing at him, and he's getting more and more fresh frustrated at that. He's also he's insolent, not insolent, No, what's the word insolent when you don't listen?
01:44:57
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I can't think of word either. But he doesn't listen to.
01:45:03
Speaker 10: You, he doesn't listen to me. He's a clown and at the law at the moment, he's just to the left of me. Lot that song by the Steelers will clowns to the left of me jokers. He's an absolute clown and he's not getting He's been with me for two years and he hasn't improved. So he's Turkey not just Tuesday, but every bloody day of the week.
01:45:29
Speaker 2: And you've name checked him on the radio as well.
01:45:31
Speaker 10: So there you go.
01:45:33
Speaker 2: And Paul I kind of feel a bit bad for it after that nomination, poor voke. Maybe it's valid. Thanks Ash insolent, Andrea says on the text line, thank you, Andrea, love your work. Time for one more Turkey nomination. Samds in Hazelwood Park.
01:45:48
Speaker 20: I Sam, oh, hey, say how are you good?
01:45:52
Speaker 5: How are you good?
01:45:55
Speaker 20: So I'm the turkey.
01:45:57
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know.
01:45:59
Speaker 20: I had a bit of a sawback, asked my darling husband to pop a bit of a good old deep heat on my sawback. Did that all good? Got up the next morning, daggered into the bathroom. You know, I didn't have my glasses on.
01:46:15
Speaker 9: What I thought was my red tube.
01:46:18
Speaker 20: Of Colgate next to my truthbrush. My darling husband had put the deep Peak, which is also red, next to the truth brush, put it on the troot brush, jumped in the shell and thought, wow, this is really intense, minty fresh this morning. Then felt the after burn and yeah, it was a pretty real wake up call.
01:46:42
Speaker 1: For the morning.
01:46:44
Speaker 20: And as your producer said, she said, I've got no words, and I said, well, actually I didn't have any words for about four hours. My tongue was on fire. Yeah. So so yeah, I'm very careful where the deepeat and the coal gay go.
01:47:02
Speaker 5: Now.
01:47:03
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fair enough. I don't know if you're the turkey as much as your husband. Maybe it's a bit of a joint.
01:47:09
Speaker 20: I think I think we win that one together.
01:47:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a joint nomination. Oh same, you know what, I think you deserve some wine after that, So Congratulations, you're the winner.
01:47:24
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, at least I can taste it now that the deep heat's worn off.
01:47:30
Speaker 2: Oh Sam, you poor thing. Yeah, you'll be able to taste this wine. Don't don't worry. Trust me, you'll want to taste this wine. It's turkey flat it's the best.
01:47:38
Speaker 5: Enjoy it.
01:47:39
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you, see you. She's the winner. She's the turkey of the week. Well done, Sam, case of turkey flat wine is coming your way. And you know what I have to give Peter in West Lakes and his dad who burnt the electric kettle on the stove, the tickets to Illuminate, So congratulations, a city wide spec call, a free and ticket at events, music, art, food, and more. It's all waiting to be discovered. Book now at illuminate adelaide dot com. Congratulations Peter in Westlakes. Those tickets are coming your way. It's time for me to get out of here. Rowie and Timmy g on with the sports show and I'll talk to you at one o'clock tomorrow. Thanks for all of your cause and texts.