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Welcome to the thirteen episode of after
the split and for those you that don't
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already know, this the deep dive
interview show going to the lives of speed
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runners. Thank you to everyone who
reached out recently. I'll be get into
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Welcome Sable Dragon Rook, who's the
legendary runner, the last Guardian and
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the Console Spiro reignited trilogy. I
know I kind of said I was going
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to step away from spiral a little
bit, but this is a little bit
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different. So you can also be
found playing games such as the pathless I
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go and a few others, but
instead of me butchering it, I would
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you like to introduce yourself? For
sure. Thanks for having me, she
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said. I'm stable Dragon Rook.
You can call me sable, and yeah,
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I'm a variety speed runner, so
I do a ton of games.
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Sometimes you know you won't see one
for a month or two and then it'll
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just resurface because that's what I feel
like at the time. So that might
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be like inside. Are Really Love
Artsi Games, so I tend to gravitate
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toward those and, as per the
last Guardian and pathless and ego, I
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suppose I'm kind of a sucker for
games that have an AI companion. That's
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that's primarily what you'll you'll see me
play, which, seeing that, seems
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like a bit of a pain in
running sometimes, for sure. I definitely
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think it takes a certain kind of
person to enjoy that kind of speed run.
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You know for sure. And congrats, by the way. I actually
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found you through CJ though. CONGRATS
on your double entries in the stat thank
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you. I'm very excited that.
Like announcement of the schedule video, thought
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it was great. Yeah, that's
something I've never seen before and I hope
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more people do stuff like that.
Hmm, what a what are you entering
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into? Speed Daca Thon? So
last Guardian is in, which I'm very
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happy about because it's a great game, but it is three and a half
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hours and it's me guiding a giant
fluffy weasel, bird chicken thing. Yeah,
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I guess I'm going to have a
what is Trico as an animal?
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Yeah, he's a bird. Many
animals. MMM, and so I get
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why it doesn't always get into marathons. So I'm definitely really happy to be
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showing that off. And then inside
that I mentioned earlier, which again don't
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get to show that off too often, I'm inclined to think, because the
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category that I run, all deaths, is absolutele morbid for a lot of
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thought. I like that. HMM. It was very surprised it got into
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I don't remember if it was Midwest
speedfest or NASA, but they got into
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one of them and their charity was
save the kids. Oh, it's literally
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a category about murdering and dying as
much as possible. I was like,
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are you sure about this? You
say anything to him this? Like yeah,
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no, nobody's going to put that
together. It's fine. I did.
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I was like, are you sure
about this, like John Cena Vine,
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and they were like Oh, yeah, no, it's fine. Okay,
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that's so perfect. A little bit
about yourself. So what is kind
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of your name, the origin of
your name? So that's actually a good
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question because I never really gave it
much thought. Maybe it's a cliche story
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of like, Oh, we never
had any friends as a kid or whatever,
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but I was. I was pretty
much a loner when I was a
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kid, and so I had imaginary
friends, and I'm talking like, you
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know, six, seven years old. I had imaginary friends, and this
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makes me seem like a nerd.
We're all just probably why I much as
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possible. Probably why I went into
linguistics. Always been really good with words.
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I was reading like Dragon Lance books
that are like four hundred pages long
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in like second grade. Wow.
So I imaginary friend was a black dragon
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named Rook, which is a word
for like a crow, which is a
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blackbird obviously, and the word sable
can also mean black. So it's just
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black dragon. Rook is my name. Okay, yeah, maybe it's why
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I chose that. I'm not a
linguis. I did not know to rook
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was. Yeah, it's actually I
think it's a raven, that a crow,
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but a big black bird in any
case. It's also like hung onto
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it though. Give you the little
nostalgia. HMM. It's also the term
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for the chess piece, right.
Oh, yeah, I guess now,
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I'm sure, and I'll just get
it out here now. The the big
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celebrities of the Sable Dragon Stream would
have to probably be the lizards. Always.
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How many of them do you have? One is it's like a whole
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zoo over there. Five lizards to
snakes currently, but literally, as you
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were hitting start on this recording,
I was messaging somebody to get more.
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So are you serious? Yeah,
well, okay, because I have two
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prehensile tailed skinks and we're fairly certain
now that both of them are boys,
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which means that some fuck and some
point, unfortunately, they're going to start
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fighting. Oh, just kind of
why they make sure they do that.
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Yeah, so they're going to need
lady friends, and I'm like, Oh
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shucks, they need lady right,
a good woman to calm them down so
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they'll split into their own it's called
a circulous, a community group where each
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boy has one to two girls so
that they don't fight. That's not I
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know that. So who is because
you're married right? Yes, is it
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is your husband okay with getting this
money? Is he just as psyched about
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as you are? He's generally just
as psyched. He's a little bit more
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pragmatic, a little bit more okay, what outlet? Are you going to
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plug that into, because you've taken
all the outlets? Yeah, you know,
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but he told me, and I
I have a screenshot, he said
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you can have as many reptiles as
you can fit on our electric grid.
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Oh, that's awesome. So,
and obviously he gets input on what we
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get. HMM. So he loves
them. He talks to him all day
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and probably a solid ten percent of
our days just creefully staring into their enclosures
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and be like hi, Buddy.
Well, how you do it, buddy?
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Ms Will enjoy it right. Yeah, it is like often people like
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hey, you know, I could
maybe go for a cat or a dog
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or something like that. Is it
just because like your childhood growing up and
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stuff? You're like I like reptiles. Yeah, I've always liked reptiles,
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but I could never have them.
I had a tiny little lizard when I
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was very small because my mom caved
and let me get one. But throughout
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college, throughout, you know,
the first little bit of my adult life,
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I couldn't have them because apartments,
you know, yeah, the struggle.
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Yeah, so I was very happy
to finally move into a house and
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be like hey, I make the
rules. Snake dime. Do you have
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any like mutuals and stuff that are
afraid of them? Or typically is it
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like Oh, everybody just knows.
Yeah, I the maid of honor at
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my wedding is terrified anything that has
scales. Like, I guess she didn't
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walk more down the aisle. She
did not, but I offered to put
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more on her lap. She's like, I'm good, but you know,
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being here and just seeing them and
seeing me just walk around holding more like
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an ice cream car made her feel
better and I would like to think that
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in some small way my streams do
that too, like that's that's like five
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percent of why I stream with the
reptiles. But definitely it has like that
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window shopping appeals, like Oh wow, this is different, this is unique.
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I love to see it. Yeah, like people look at more on
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Cam and they're like, okay,
I'll give him a blueberry, and then
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eats a blueberry and suddenly they're like, Oh, this is just a cute
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little animal that I can give treats
to instead of Oh, this is a
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horrifying, slimy thing that you don't
like. You know, it's made some
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people feel better. I definitely want
to say thank you for having the channel
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point thing, especially for so cheap, like it's kind of been a tradition
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for me, or I don't know
the right word, for a scheduled thing,
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but I'll like wake up, I
have my coffee and multitask in the
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just being able to give a little
blueberry to mort or something. This is
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like, Oh my God, yeah, this is incredible. Head. I
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had to make them a little more
expensive because he's getting kind of Chunky.
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That's what I figure, like I
told people about like it's so cheap too.
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I don't understand, like we would
think this lizard be five hundred pounds
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for only three hundred channel points either. Then the day. I love the
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all their names, by the way, just kind of like they all have
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no culture references. Yeah, we
try to be clever in their names,
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except for Bagel. Her name doesn't
make sense. But more it's name is
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it more? It's artorious, but
nobody knows that anymore. It knew that
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at like the inception of my channel, when I still called him like ardy.
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How did it kind of evolve into
more? By the way, because
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he does. Okay, our Torius
stark souls right, yeah, he's super
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cool and when we got more as
a baby. We thought that he had
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a problem with one of his arms
and wasn't going to be able to use
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it correctly, and I was like, Oh, you know, his tongues
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the same color as oartorious is cloak. He's got kind of a weird arm,
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perfect artorious, and he was also
very timid and I was like I
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don't want them to be tim of
it. I wanted to be brave like
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ourtorious. HMM. Now you look
at him and he is braver and his
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arms fine. You look at him
and you're like you're just not notorious Fuddy,
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you're just a big old chunk.
And so it didn't look great.
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And so it went from Artorius to
already Marty, to Morty to more Marty.
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That's that's where the big jump is. Well, part of it comes
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from just how my husband and I
talked to each other and we're basically unintelligible
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to anyone else. That's so funny, like, especially since you're a linguist
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and you kind of have to do
a bunch of editing, you think like
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Oh, very prim and proper English, and then to just kind of evolve.
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Its fascinating because it's can talk to
my husband, you know, hmm.
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And you can be like hey,
you want to go to when garblers?
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I totally understand what that's. Yeah, it's want to go to Wendy's
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for a hamburger. Ah, is
what that is. There are rules.
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It sounds like complete nonsense, but
linguistically like there are rules still, and
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that's how we understand each other,
because we follow unspoken rules. As a
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linguist, that just makes me look
super happy. Hey, if it works
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for you, I guess, then
why not? HMM. See, you're
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the kind of person because always,
if you're like, oh, how do
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you make up a word, you
someone that's like yeah, I could do
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that, do that. Has Been
is so great at that. He speaks
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entirely and made up words and I
get it right about eighty five percent of
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the time. It's a good percentage. I actually just finished playing dark souls
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like two days ago, and I'm
thankful that I chose to do it on
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stream instead of just private. Is, like I wouldn't have got any of
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the lore stuff so to hear,
like about our torious and stuff like that,
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and then scith. Oh my God, everybody lost their minds when sith
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happened. I'm so thankful that dark
souls was like, it's weird to say,
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but like my gateway to my husband. Oh really, I had never
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played dark souls before I met him. Hmm, that was what we did
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together. We well, okay,
the very first thing we did together in
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video games was I beat the final
boss of Drake and guard for him because
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he couldn't, but an he wanted
to compleat save file. Hey, that's
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a hard boss. And then we
started playing dark souls. We started with
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dark souls three, which wasn't,
I guess, the right choice, but
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he had played all of them.
I had, and so we sat down
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and we played them together and just
doing all of that hard stuff, because
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obviously dark souls is hard. Thing. That together helped us learn about each
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other. When we were first,
you know, dating. There was a
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great bonding experience and I have picture
of our torious and stiff that I'm looking
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at right now of my TV.
I made him a painting of the four
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nights of Gwyn and at our wedding, our unity ceremony was lighting a bonfire.
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Really. Yeah, Oh my God, that would be so cool,
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because your unity ceremony is supposed to
be the thing where you like say that
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you're working together right, M and
a bonfire is a place of safety where
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monsters can't enter, and every time
you mess up, come back to it
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and start over. That's actually that
is really beautiful, right. I was
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very happy and we still have the
bonfire sword that I've been meaning to hang
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up on the wall. You get
like a like heavy duty, a real
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sword. I wish it's too expensive
to get like a full metal one.
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kind of what I figured, but
you never know. Weddings can kind of
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be outrageous sometimes. Yeah, maybe
for like our twenty year anniversary or something,
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guys, we could upgrade to the
fully metal one. Thing about now,
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I guess. Yeah, dark soils
about as good as it gets.
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On that cooperation, you're going to
learn a lot, kind of like a
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house project or something. Yeah,
Yep, like if we communicate, you
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can build Ikea furniture together. They
say, I did love and I'd always
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forget about it because of the memory
of a goldfish. Is something that you.
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You tweeted that like you'd bought the
new Pokemon snap and hit it in
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your house, and so every like
couple weeks I would be an update,
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like hey, my husband still hasn't
noticed this poster. Hmm, let me
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like paint a picture here. We
play magic the gathering a lot. We
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have a huge kitchen table specifically to
play magic the gathering and other like Arkham
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horror and big, big games that
take up a lot of space, so
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we're out there all the time.
Immediately next to that table is the mantel
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where that poster was. So it's
not like it was in some abandoned part
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of the house where he was never
going to see it. MMM. He
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was sitting with an arms reach of
it for what did I say? Eighty
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three days? That's not something like
that. And when he walked over finally
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to see it, because that day
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put a full piece of paper,
just said Dude, for him to like
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to just draws attention. But when
he finally saw it I had put giant
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yellow or orange arrows pointing to the
poster and when he walked over, he
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wasn't like what's this poster? He
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It's like, dude, I'm no
detective, but that seems like a
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clue. But he finally found it. Now have you guys played it?
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Since then? Yes, we have
played it. I would say the pictures
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that he has taken are like one
percent things we actually need and ninety nine
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percent be Douf because but deuce the
best. I who snap? I bought
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it like first day, super nostalgic
because I just I played the crap out
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of the original game back in the
day. I don't know. Some Ned
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me just didn't quite like it as
much. I'm like, is this boomer
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brain? I don't know. See, he liked it and he was excited
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that it was longer than what he
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had never played the original. So
so really, this one was great.
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You know, I like this one
a lot. MMM. Still need to
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go back and finish it. Haven't
picked it up again yet. Maybe that's
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why I just got to actually sit
down. Yeah, and it's hard to
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tell what actually like. Finishing it
is right. Oh yeah, true,
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it's different for different people, I
imagine, because we haven't finished either.
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Maybe there's a specific ending, but
I'm imagining you can make it through without
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getting like diamond on all of the
pictures. Oh yeah, I'd be all
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right with that. That seems like
crazy. replayability. Essentially, whatever the
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get all of the areas, I
think would I good to go. Hmm,
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what games are you currently kind of
pushing and interested in, because,
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like you said, I've seen you
kind of jump around a different games and
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categories. I'm always keeping an eye
out on more artcy games that are coming
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out and I work as an editor
on some games, so obviously I'm keeping
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an eye on those two. Oh
really, yeah, there's I'm so excited.
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There was a game announced, I
imagine it was a ethree, I
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can't remember, called the Gecko.
Got It. It's just it's sorry,
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screams right up your alley. Right. It's just a really cute lizard just
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running around and doing platforming and I'm
like this is made for me. So
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can you know? He's a get
go he can climb on walls and do
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like upside down stuff and seems really
fun. You know. It's like the
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smaller games. Like there's also this
one where you like a cat in the
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city or something. Yeah, I
can't remember what it's called. I can't.
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That was like the game that stood
out to me the most. I'm
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like, why is this what I'm
interested in the most? HMM, but
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just look sucker for things like that. MMM, definitely a confession. I
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had never played the last guardian and
I just kind of think because because of
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CJ's podcast, actually by wound up
finding like your channel and everything, and
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now I've seen that whole game probably
at least ten times now. I like,
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this looks really comfy, but I
don't know if I'd ever want to
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speed run it. Yeah, Last
Guardian is like the pinnacle of you need
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to be a certain kind of person
in order to enjoy this kind of speed
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run. Is Like pathless. Yeah, you have an a companion, but
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he's programmed to basically just do what
you say. Jorda a ECO Andin once
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you kind of get over how she
works, she's relatively easy to understand.
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DRAKO is an entirely different beast.
No Pun intended. You get punished for
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trying to make him do things sometimes, and it's all on the effort of
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trying to make him be realistic like
an animal. An animal doesn't always listen
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to you. Sometimes an animal ignores
you out of spite, like you know.
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That's what I love about hen.
LIKE AI in some games, just
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seems like he can be terrible,
even if it's like an enemy or like
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the some MPC that's supposed to function
a little bit. That's why I think,
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and on the whole, run is
crazy. Yeah, I think that
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that's why people have such varying opinions
about the last guardian. There's not really
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people who are like this isn't okay
game. It's either this is a masterpiece
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or I hated this. It's what
expectations they had going in. Right,
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if you go in with the expectation
that she goes an animal and he's not
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going to listen to you, and
when he doesn't listen, you're like,
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Huh, that's funny, he's being
a bug. But if you go in
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with like want to finish this game, then you're like he's not listening,
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like I've told him to do this
thirty times, and then you get really
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frustrated. Yeah, those an interesting
it's a matter of perspective. HMM.
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It's not a game for everybody.
I would suggest that everybody at least take
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a look at it and see if
it's something interest you, if you like
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heavily story driven Games. But I
respect that it's not everybody's Cup of tea,
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just like you know, final fantasy
seven isn't everybody's Cup of tea through.
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I'm still trying to rack my brain
together. Sorry, I kind of
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skip right over this. I was
interested. What's a what is editing games
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like for you? What? What
does that consider of Oh yeah, so
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usually I'm the person that make sure
there's no typos, like in the steam
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page for the game. Oh Really? Yeah, and I'll edit like press
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releases and like newsletter blasts for kickstarter
games, things like that, make sure
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that there's no errors. Is it
just like one parent company, or do
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you just kind of freelance around,
like hey, free land, probably need
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me? That's exactly what I do. A usually see a kickstarter game that
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I want to back and I back
it and then I contact them and I'm
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like hey, need this. Oh, that's actually a really good idea.
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It's a lot of fun and the
most fun to me, of course,
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is actually getting to edit like the
in game text right, not just because
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I get to see the entirety of
the game before it's out, but just
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it feels nice to have contributed in
some substantive way to to a game,
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and I do that with board games
to definitely didn't think you'd need, you
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know, your resume for this interview, but so what kind of stuff have
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you worked on in the past?
Out It is out of curiosity. So
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there's currently a game. Take my
and of course no offense to how bird
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here, but take my participation with
a grain of salt. Sometimes how bird
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remembers to send me their press releases
before they put them out, other times
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they don't. Oh, but later
on, when the game actually gets the
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point where we have in game text
and everything, check out nine years of
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shadow by how bird studios. That's
one that I'm working on. And you're
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into board games. Isle of cats
the city of kings to those I have
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worked on. That was a lot
of fun. City of kings is a
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law gloom haven. That's something that
you're into. Aisle cats is much easier,
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very fun. You'd basically just have
a boat. You have cats that
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you have to rescue and they're like
Tetra shaped pieces and you got to fit
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them all together and cats are the
same color and next to each other they're
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like a family and you get more
points. It's really simple, really fun.
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I kind of I like that stuff
every now and then. Very easy.
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Yeah, going on the brain and
for a little bit more background about
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you. So how old are you? Wait, I think. Okay,
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I think. Oh No, I
guess. Yeah, I think after like
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twenty once, like all right,
does it matter anymore? Yeah, hopefully
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not thirty yet. Pretty sure,
and you kind of allude to already.
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But what's your living situation like for
all the reptiles? Do you have a
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house? And you have a house. Yeah, and imagine for any roommates
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stuff like that. It's just me
and my husband and a bunch of reptiles
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and a dog. Oh, you
do have a dog? Yes, his
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name is Bryce. You call him
dog, and yeah, it's it's kind
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of just wall to wall reptiles,
but in a tasteful way, not in
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like a horder kind of way.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I
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could imagine that. It's only two
steps away. But their enclosures look Nice,
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you know, so it's more like
having do you call those things?
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You know, some people make like
little orbs that have moss in him to
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just put on their desk. Oh, yeah, it looks like that,
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but just big all across our walls. Right, of course there's reptiles living
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in them. What's what's your husband
think it like? Of the streaming and
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speed running stuff like? That's the
one that encouraged me to do it.
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Well, he wasn't the one that
encouraged me to speed run. He was
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the one that encouraged me to stream. been speed running since like two thousand
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and twelve or something, but long
time I just never posted anything. I
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wasn't really interested in posting anything.
That would have been back in what speed
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runs live or before that even.
I don't even demo, I don't even
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remember. I was just like,
Oh, somebody, you know, I
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bet somebody can do this flight level
faster and spiral. I'm going to change
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that, you know, and I'm
going to be the fastest one. But
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then I never did anything with it
except for kept videos that I probably don't
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have anymore. It was very fascinating
to me because I like to get a
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little bit of just background before I
do these. I was checking out your
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youtube channel and it goes back.
You had all the way back in another
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history. Yeah, like, wow, so's the like sunny flight, the
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flight levels, kind of your introduction
to speed running? Yes, Yep,
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sunny flight on the original spiral,
which I don't think is on my youtube
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channel but it might be. I
saw a wonderful, very for its time,
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recording a sunny flight on a crt
with maybe a VHS camera. Yep,
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like this is one beautiful this is
actually why we need the Internet to
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preserve moments like this. So,
yeah, that was that was a long
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time ago. And then you probably
had to wade through about like six years
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of acupuncture videos. I got a
little enamored with like this Suction Cup thing.
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What is choirecuping here? Oh Yeah, fire cupping. Yeah, that
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looks so terrible for you, but
like I imagine maybe it's fine. It's
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really good for you. You'll see
a lot of Olympic athletes even they'll have,
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you know, these circular marks on
their back and that's just from fire
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cupping. Really lose a circulation your
muscles. Does it hurt? People think
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it feels good. It feels like
a very strong massage now. So yeah,
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I I contemplated like making those videos
private so that my might youtube could
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just be like a more consistent,
hmm thing. But I've had multiple people
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tell me like it's kind of interesting
and I'm like, okay, fine,
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just whatever, watching if you want. It is I don't know why I
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just was going down the rabbit holeme
like Oh, Whoa, my God,
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look at all this. It's so
diverse. To It's like here's a song.
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Yeah, well, here's so the
explanation things. Yep, the explanation
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for why some videos just seem out
of place. I was making a documentary
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on behalf of the Asian Studies Department. Okay, so they needed just random
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clips of a bunch of Asian culture
stuff, which is why you have Chinese
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people dancing in the countryside and then
just, you know, two videos later,
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water wheel like. That was the
best way for me to are the
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videos for that. Yeah, makes
sense, especially back then. I struggle
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with file storage now, so to
have video back then, and I am
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super excited about this, though.
You said you went to college. Would
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you wind up majoring in a double
majored in Japanese and linguistics? And as
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I know it, you did sometime
actually in Japan. Right, done many
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times in Japan. Yeah, I
guess. Like how long in total for
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you? Two years plus like tiny
little stints in there. I was me
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a little stints being like, you
know, couple weeks to a couple months
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chunk. I'll really so your own
back and forth. Yeah, all that
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sounds kind of hard. I mean
that's not a short flight by any means.
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No, it's like fourteen hours or
something. I would I actually just
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back like last October or something,
but I was living over in Japan for
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like three years and I miss it
every day. Yeah, Oh my God,
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it's something else to not to miss
it. And Has Bando lived there
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longer than I did? He worked
for a law firm over there. How
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did you guys know each other over
there, or did you in the US?
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We met in the US, but
but he used to work a lot
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from there, and then he also
did jet for three years. Think the
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jet jet as in like the Japan
Exchange. Oh Oh yeah, Graham,
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he was a teacher for a little
while. Shows how much I know about
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him. But long it was.
Now you at least know what happened.
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That's yeah, that's important part.
Right. He's lived there longer, but
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I've opped up with the language better. You having to know, like is
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there something that just drives at you
like you know what? This is one
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of the things I really about Japan. MMM, so we live in a
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really fairly Japanese demographic area. Oh
really, she's really nice because we can
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go get Sushi and it's actually really
Nice Sushi. You know, like we
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have access to things like Oudon and
shabby shabu and stuff that you might not
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you didn't have such a high population
of Japanese people. Like actually having Japanese
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culture, ecentric doors. It's really
great. So I missed the Food A
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lot because it's easy to be like
I want Sushi, and then Sushi makes
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you think of like Kaitan Sushi,
the the merry go round Sushi. I'm
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trying to well, I think I
know what state you're in, probably,
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and I don't think I know anywhere
like that. I've got a lot of
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family up there and I can't think
of anywhere. Yeah, like I would
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go as a kid every summer and
stuff like that. Just one like little
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epicenter town. That's okay. Here's
here's definitely. I don't want to dock
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seek any means. No, no, but do some detective work if you
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truly care. One of the main
characters from Detroit become human lives, or
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00:31:52.940 --> 00:31:59.980
rather was born, in this Japanese
epicenter city. My stake. So there
407
00:32:00.059 --> 00:32:04.730
you go. Thank it. That's
been on my bucket list games to play.
408
00:32:05.569 --> 00:32:09.009
So good. That's probably all I
will say. That's since I don't
409
00:32:09.009 --> 00:32:15.599
want to spoil you enjoyed it.
That is that I have a downloaded even
410
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.920
like I love those cinematic base games. They're just so easy like for my
411
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:25.200
brain and I wait it. But
would definitely say it's hard to get into
412
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:32.150
because it you know you're committing a
lot. For sure. DETROIT, it's
413
00:32:34.150 --> 00:32:38.869
game that you can tell a lot
of thought was put into everything. The
414
00:32:39.029 --> 00:32:45.460
animation has a lot of effort into
it and the choices that you make ed
415
00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:51.819
to immensely branching paths. That are
all very exciting. I think they did
416
00:32:51.859 --> 00:32:54.900
a good job with it. You
have do you play other games like that,
417
00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:59.250
like did you play heavy rain?
Be On two souls? That kind
418
00:32:59.289 --> 00:33:02.250
of have them on the shelf but
have not played them really. What?
419
00:33:04.529 --> 00:33:06.890
Well, okay, so we have
a big old stack of games. We
420
00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:13.839
can't play Games fast enough to get
through the stack. True. Actually this
421
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.240
is something I feel with speed running
to do, do you ever feel bad
422
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:23.000
like, okay, I could play
new game or I could play last Guardian
423
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:29.269
for the hundred time? Yep,
that's exactly why I speed run, because
424
00:33:29.789 --> 00:33:32.670
that's an excuse to play the same
game for the three hundred and fifty seven
425
00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:43.380
time. This is a it may
deep. I don't know why, but
426
00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:46.180
always I'm like, I should play
this, I should play that, and
427
00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:51.900
I just find myself like or I
could run hollow night again, run crash
428
00:33:51.940 --> 00:33:57.569
again, do dude over and over
and over. Lucky, because the way
429
00:33:57.690 --> 00:34:00.529
that our day is set up,
you know, I work from home,
430
00:34:00.170 --> 00:34:05.690
running my own business, which means
I set my own hours and, as
431
00:34:05.730 --> 00:34:09.079
I was telling you offline, I
usually start working really, really early in
432
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:14.000
the morning because that's just when I
think best. So that usually means that
433
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:20.480
sometime in the span of midday I've
been working for longer than my husband works,
434
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.590
right, because I start early and
then end when he gets home.
435
00:34:24.909 --> 00:34:30.030
So that means that I have a
little bit of time during the day to
436
00:34:30.190 --> 00:34:34.309
myself, or I can speed run, I can fulfill all of my I
437
00:34:34.349 --> 00:34:37.949
want to play the last Guardian for
the five thousand time during the day and
438
00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:40.019
then together we play new games at
night. So we have time for both.
439
00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:45.420
Oh that's kind of really smart.
It's very nice, and we alternate
440
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:50.300
who plays games or sometimes we'll play, you know together, like dark souls.
441
00:34:50.659 --> 00:34:52.820
He'll play for a while, if
he gets frustrated, he'll give it
442
00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:58.010
to me. I'll play for a
while you know, currently playing vigil the
443
00:34:58.130 --> 00:35:04.690
longest night, which is a lesser
known metroid Vania. Sounds earlier, but
444
00:35:04.769 --> 00:35:09.400
I could not tell you any about
it. You can definitely tell that it
445
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.000
doesn't have the same level of Polish
as something like Hallin night, but it's
446
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:19.679
charming and its own way. I'm
seeing a lot more. I think all
447
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.190
night kind of maybe struck it that, like new metroid Vanya's, people are
448
00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:28.150
really kind of enjoying them, and
when they have a think ard style it
449
00:35:28.829 --> 00:35:32.789
even better. Yeah, I think
that hallow night really reminded people what the
450
00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:37.940
genre is capable of. MMM,
and so people are suddenly willing to give
451
00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:43.780
a lot of other things to try
to hopes of chasing that high again of
452
00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:46.699
hollow night. I've been seeing a
lot of ender lilies. That game looks.
453
00:35:46.940 --> 00:35:54.289
Yeah, I don't know. He
debated between vigil and Underword. Real
454
00:35:54.329 --> 00:36:00.650
Lilies. Is the one with the
the sliding combat Gail Right? I think
455
00:36:00.730 --> 00:36:07.440
so, like Rundio, deither Grandi
or a lunar boy, I can't remember
456
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.559
because I can't keep those games separate
because we played them right after each other.
457
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.239
You so this shelf? Like do
you have a physical collection of pretty
458
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.349
much everything you play. Yes,
we prefer to do physical things over digital
459
00:36:22.469 --> 00:36:24.429
things. I do too, and
I always feel like the minority in this,
460
00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:28.750
but just something nice about having a
tangible item. It's so great.
461
00:36:29.429 --> 00:36:35.300
Yeah, and you know Spiro as
an example. Can't run eighty dragons if
462
00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:38.219
you don't have the physical Oh,
is that a thing? Yeah, Console
463
00:36:38.300 --> 00:36:43.300
Adi Dragons. If you have the
digital console version, you can't run adye
464
00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:47.769
dragons because you can't back patch to
one point out. I've had a lot
465
00:36:47.969 --> 00:36:52.650
of Sart runners on here and it
almost seems like everyone always says, oh,
466
00:36:52.690 --> 00:36:57.730
yeah, pc is just the way. The something you ever thought about
467
00:36:57.769 --> 00:37:02.239
like switching to when I was still
primarily streaming spiral? I thought about it,
468
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:08.920
but I'm can be competitive, but
Spiro was not something I was ever
469
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:17.150
super competitive in. Unless somebody takes
my ead dragons, I but so just
470
00:37:17.309 --> 00:37:22.070
moving over to a different console and
having a new set of COMP petitiveness was
471
00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:24.110
like, I don't I don't really
need this and I don't like to stream
472
00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:32.539
from PC, mostly because no,
I just I prefer consoles because I stream
473
00:37:32.579 --> 00:37:37.059
from my laptop. I would be
playing spiral on my laptop at the same
474
00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:39.780
time that I'm streaming and I have
to like manage chat and the game.
475
00:37:39.940 --> 00:37:44.369
Yeah, that sounds I don't like. It possible. Yeah, I don't
476
00:37:44.409 --> 00:37:49.489
like it. So I try to
avoid PC gaming when I can. I've
477
00:37:49.530 --> 00:37:52.449
seen people try and do that,
where you just have like a minimized game
478
00:37:52.769 --> 00:37:55.170
or like a windowed game and then
have the chat on the side, and
479
00:37:55.210 --> 00:38:02.880
I, like, I that just
seems impossible. Something's very struggle. But
480
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.840
with spiral, have you ever,
I guess, thought of returning to do
481
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.360
like mbs or anything like that again, even on console? Um, I'm
482
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.789
happy with my NBS time, but
I think that BS, mbs is always
483
00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:19.110
been the thing that I come back
to when I want to play Spiro.
484
00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:23.190
HMM, somebody took my any percent, I believed, two months ago Ish,
485
00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:27.030
and I'm like a, you know, I'll, I'll get to it.
486
00:38:29.179 --> 00:38:34.500
Any person seems I don't know.
At least I've kind of have more
487
00:38:34.539 --> 00:38:38.460
of the PC reference, but just
bugginess of it. The yeah, short
488
00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:43.809
length. I't like I couldn't see
myself wanted to push it either. This
489
00:38:43.969 --> 00:38:50.650
point it's it's really brutal and a
speed run because it's fun. So when
490
00:38:50.650 --> 00:38:53.010
it comes to the point where I'm
sacrificing my sanity in order to save two
491
00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:57.400
seconds. I'm like, okay,
this is this is enough, and that's
492
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.199
why I don't run the flight levels
anymore. I was huge in running the
493
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.960
flight levels for the first probably year
that the game was out. SRT,
494
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:13.429
not the original, was constantly fighting
for old record. I would take it
495
00:39:13.510 --> 00:39:15.829
and then for a would take it
and then I would take it back and
496
00:39:15.909 --> 00:39:20.230
Jordi would take it and was just
constant. It got to the point where
497
00:39:20.230 --> 00:39:27.380
I spent three months grinding wild flight
point one second. I got it,
498
00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:30.619
then for obeat it and I was
like okay, no way. Yeah,
499
00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:35.820
like there are so many more productive
things I could do with my time.
500
00:39:35.820 --> 00:39:39.849
MMM. You know, I've always
had major respect the time trialers. Like
501
00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:44.449
I lose a few seconds and was
in a split or something. I'm like
502
00:39:44.769 --> 00:39:47.010
yeah, you know whatever, they're
competing, like you said, for that
503
00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:52.559
point one second. It's like Ah, I'm okay, when sometimes, sometimes
504
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.199
you're competing for more than that because
of that in game timer in spiral,
505
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:04.239
which will round you up you're a
certain distance from from half season, you
506
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:09.389
know. So it's like, but
love the flight levels. Every now and
507
00:40:09.469 --> 00:40:13.230
then I still go back to him, but yeah, it got to the
508
00:40:13.269 --> 00:40:16.670
point where, well, spiral was
facing two pixels too far to the right.
509
00:40:16.750 --> 00:40:20.789
Guess I'm done. Yep, you
know, there you said. It
510
00:40:20.869 --> 00:40:25.059
kind of not fun anymore. It's
not like a super quick reset either.
511
00:40:25.739 --> 00:40:32.019
Yeah, gotta crash, wait for
the load, I guess. Yeah,
512
00:40:32.019 --> 00:40:37.489
it's since we're already kind of Segue, let's go into your speed running a
513
00:40:37.650 --> 00:40:40.769
bit. The whatever, I guess, motivate you to do that first flight
514
00:40:40.809 --> 00:40:46.050
level on spiral and then really jump
into speed running as a whole. So
515
00:40:47.010 --> 00:40:53.239
I always played video games just for
the sake of being in a different like
516
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.280
place, enjoying a different world from
the one that I was in. That's
517
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.400
why I favor story based Games and
like artistic games so much. And so
518
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.550
for me, spiral legend a dragoon
and shadowed the colossus. We're the ones
519
00:41:07.590 --> 00:41:09.269
that I played as a kid that
I was like, I could just be
520
00:41:09.389 --> 00:41:15.389
here forever. Eventually, you know, you get to the point where no
521
00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:21.780
where, every jam is in spiral
or can, and I did, literally
522
00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:24.659
draw an accurate map of the entire
forbidden land from shadow the Colossus, because
523
00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:30.219
all you do is right around on
egg roll. They really and you realize
524
00:41:30.260 --> 00:41:35.650
that you want something else. So
you start imposing challenges on yourself. Jew
525
00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:37.730
The colossus, it was, let's
see if I can go from one wing
526
00:41:37.809 --> 00:41:43.929
to the other on Avion, you
know, without walking, but by dropping
527
00:41:44.530 --> 00:41:49.440
out, trying to be cool.
And for for spiral, it was well,
528
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.440
let's because I used to hang out
in the flight levels a lot,
529
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:53.920
because you can just fly around freely. Once you beat him, once I
530
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.760
was like, well, let's see
how fast I can do this. You
531
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.239
know, it was just another challenge, but let me keep playing the game,
532
00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:07.429
I guess. Yeah, because I
no doubt that anything I've run has
533
00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:09.590
added up hours. That's become one
of the most played things for me,
534
00:42:10.710 --> 00:42:15.619
though. That makes sense, kind
of extend the playability of it. HMM,
535
00:42:16.860 --> 00:42:21.059
because once you start doing that,
once you're like okay, I'm going
536
00:42:21.099 --> 00:42:25.699
to set a challenge for myself and
you have a goal, and then automatically
537
00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:30.650
grants you more playtime when you don't
meet your goal or when you do,
538
00:42:30.769 --> 00:42:36.969
and you said another goal. So
you have an infinite reason to continue playing,
539
00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:38.170
because every time you make your goal, just make a different one,
540
00:42:39.489 --> 00:42:45.599
a better one. What, I
guess, what is your goal right now?
541
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.320
Your big goal you're working towards and
speed running just in general. MMM,
542
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.199
sub three hundred and ten last Guardian, I would be sick it.
543
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.309
Based on the tech that we have
now, it would need to be a
544
00:43:00.829 --> 00:43:05.789
really, really immaculate run across all
three and a half hours. Yes,
545
00:43:05.869 --> 00:43:09.190
have a collection of like a community
sob or anything like that. I have
546
00:43:09.349 --> 00:43:15.980
made a theory task. Oh,
very difficult on modern uncles of stuff like
547
00:43:16.019 --> 00:43:23.260
that. took me almost two years. Who Make and a debuted last Christmas
548
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:30.849
and I have the goal of updating
it a little bit every Christmas. So
549
00:43:31.449 --> 00:43:36.929
for perspective, right, first let
me clarify theory tasks. Right. I
550
00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:39.690
can't task a PSFOUR game because you
don't have the the technology to do that
551
00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:45.679
right. And you can't really task
last Guardian Anyway, because a task,
552
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:52.280
least as I understand it, is
you teach a program was to input it
553
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.710
does it perfectly, HMM, exactly
the way that you want. You can't
554
00:43:54.750 --> 00:43:58.510
do that with last guardian because Ricos
an AI, he's never going to be
555
00:43:58.550 --> 00:44:00.110
standing in the same spot twice.
He's going to do his own thing like
556
00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:05.550
you can't. There's no consistency.
The best we can do is the theory
557
00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:13.619
tasks where I take clips and cut
them together, it's fairly and equally as
558
00:44:13.699 --> 00:44:20.139
possible to create the best possible run. Or Ricos AI is always perfect.
559
00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:22.500
You always make all the risky jumps
and and all that sort of thing.
560
00:44:23.570 --> 00:44:29.769
So my current world record for last
Guardian is a boy, I don't I
561
00:44:29.849 --> 00:44:31.210
have a three hundred and thirteen.
I think I have a threehundred thirteen as
562
00:44:31.250 --> 00:44:36.409
far as I know. Yes,
yeah, I remember, so three and
563
00:44:36.449 --> 00:44:39.599
thirteen, which was a really,
really good run. I theory task is
564
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:46.679
two hundred fifty two. So it's
significantly better. It's significantly better and I'm
565
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.960
hoping, based on the developments that
I've been able to make so far,
566
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.510
mostly within the last month actually,
that I can be a lot closer to
567
00:44:55.550 --> 00:45:00.510
two hundred and forty five for this
Christmas. I definitely I wish you good
568
00:45:00.550 --> 00:45:05.110
luck. It's cool to hear that
you know it's possible, but does it
569
00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:09.059
not seem easy? I'm just hoping
it's that oddly run for sure. Yeah,
570
00:45:09.579 --> 00:45:15.179
HMM. And like my sum of
best is like a three hundred and
571
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:21.260
five or something, but realistically that's
not going to happen. So just gunn
572
00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:23.090
for the three hundred and ten and
maybe some day the stars will align.
573
00:45:24.170 --> 00:45:28.050
Didn't used to think that three hundred
and thirteen was possible and here we are.
574
00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:30.409
So yeah, true, as time
kind of progresses, I mean the
575
00:45:30.530 --> 00:45:35.690
theory test sounds like so much work. That's incredible. How a lot of
576
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:42.840
fun doing it can definitely be frustrating. I was streaming just yesterday some task
577
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.159
footage, collection stuff, or I
was just doing the final fight of the
578
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.230
game over and over and over again, because with fights you can't them together
579
00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:58.389
Faf way through like you can with
other types of movement, because it's a
580
00:45:58.429 --> 00:46:00.630
bunch of armors, they're all AI
things. They're all going to walk in
581
00:46:00.750 --> 00:46:06.699
separate places. Like can't just split
it halfway and cut together all the good
582
00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:10.099
parts, because it's not fair,
right. Yeah, it just seems it
583
00:46:10.139 --> 00:46:14.539
wouldn't make it for a proper like
Oh, this is that can't happen.
584
00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:22.050
Like I'm trying to put together something
that the scope of a trillion years,
585
00:46:22.250 --> 00:46:28.690
like this could happen, not something
that's just, Oh, this would be
586
00:46:28.730 --> 00:46:30.730
cool if, like, Haha,
we just didn't get a phase or whatever,
587
00:46:30.769 --> 00:46:37.880
or we have an excellent first phase
then an excellent second phase and we
588
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.239
cut those together, even though tree
goes on one side. Of the room
589
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.559
for for the first part and the
other side of the room for the next
590
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.389
part. Like that's not possible.
I Caro. I came have like,
591
00:46:47.070 --> 00:46:51.949
say, files that you can reload
to try and like regrind out a section.
592
00:46:52.670 --> 00:46:59.309
Nope, Oh, don't make it
even worse, even harder, because,
593
00:46:59.949 --> 00:47:01.019
yeah, I mean sure, I
can make safe states on a USB
594
00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:06.500
and that's what I do, but
you can stills, but every time you
595
00:47:06.579 --> 00:47:10.659
fail those the game. Yeah,
reason, have the shame data load the
596
00:47:10.699 --> 00:47:17.329
game. It's my baby and I'm
very proud of it and I try to
597
00:47:17.409 --> 00:47:23.530
make it as fair and unbiased as
possible. Like I'll I'm cutting two sections
598
00:47:23.570 --> 00:47:29.449
together, I will cut the boy
at the same location, ideally taking the
599
00:47:29.610 --> 00:47:32.960
same step though, that it's as
accurate as possible. I know, yeah,
600
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.800
little details that I'm sure only you
would notice, but I try.
601
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:47.590
Is definitely respectable. I have seen, at least I saw last armies an
602
00:47:47.630 --> 00:47:51.789
es a, and I think you've
done a couple marathons of it recently.
603
00:47:51.829 --> 00:47:55.389
Right, yeah, I've done a
fair number of last guardian runs. I
604
00:47:55.510 --> 00:48:00.539
was on commentary for you surpering.
Yes a doing it as well, which
605
00:48:00.579 --> 00:48:02.900
it was great to see it in
ESA. I don't submit to ESA.
606
00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:07.539
So it never would have been there
if I, surfering, hadn't submitted it,
607
00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:10.340
which is Great. Do you like
to submit it as a game and
608
00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:15.409
showcase it? Definitely. I'm kind
of a sucker for marathons in general.
609
00:48:15.130 --> 00:48:21.170
I like. I've noticed that Lardy
when I first started like kind of following
610
00:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.210
your channels, like she's been a
marathon every other day. It seems like.
611
00:48:23.849 --> 00:48:30.079
Yeah, there have definitely a record
is five marathon runs over the span
612
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:37.119
of thirty six hours. Are you
serious? That was perhaps not a thing
613
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:44.670
I would do again. All the
same game. Biro twice. Okay,
614
00:48:45.230 --> 00:48:52.230
Biro twice, pathless inside and I
must have been spire three times. That
615
00:48:52.389 --> 00:48:58.179
was to undred eighty dragons and NBS
inside and the pathless. I think you
616
00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:04.219
just feel like a broken record.
And the same commentary kind of, I
617
00:49:04.300 --> 00:49:07.980
guess. He finally also help find
out, you know, because yeah,
618
00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:10.449
you know what you're saying. At
that point, kind of learning more and
619
00:49:10.570 --> 00:49:15.369
more and at least maybe just for
my own what I want out of things.
620
00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:21.530
But like most people aren't going to
know your run, though how you
621
00:49:21.610 --> 00:49:24.559
do individually doesn't really matter. But
at the commentary so important. If you
622
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.239
can kind of showcase how cool that
your game really is or whatever. Do
623
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.320
you know? Yeah, I would
so much rather that, like I'm going
624
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.750
to mess up balloon of SKIP IN
ADI dragons. I would so much rather
625
00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:43.110
mess it up in some catastrophic way. Yeah, really funny. Or like
626
00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:46.909
Trico just doesn't listen to me.
I would rather he just like eat me
627
00:49:46.949 --> 00:49:52.510
out a window or surprise absolutely goofy, like I don't care about what time
628
00:49:52.510 --> 00:49:54.300
I get, I just care that
people have fun watching. You know,
629
00:49:55.579 --> 00:50:00.139
I keep waiting and this is so
terrible to wish. I'm not wishing it,
630
00:50:00.260 --> 00:50:02.739
of course, but it is kind
of funny and I miss it the
631
00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:07.809
original time. But I've heard about
falling down that hole in the last guardiance
632
00:50:07.250 --> 00:50:10.289
at the end. Yeah, that
seems not fun, but it would be
633
00:50:10.489 --> 00:50:19.289
very funny the moment. I was
just devastated because that was my like first
634
00:50:20.849 --> 00:50:23.280
at the end game and I'm on
world record pace by like three minutes.
635
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.159
Well, it is the first time
I had ever been there. And then,
636
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.559
you know, yeah, to go
through the hole and guess how much
637
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.949
time the whole costs? Three minutes. Intensive it's good. So you hard
638
00:50:36.070 --> 00:50:39.789
that died section for sure. Yeah, it was devastating at the time,
639
00:50:40.269 --> 00:50:47.389
but of course now it's just something
funny to look back on. You you
640
00:50:47.469 --> 00:50:54.139
think maybe once you get that sub
three ten that you would retire the game?
641
00:50:55.099 --> 00:51:00.699
No, I know. I feel
like last Guardian is here to stay,
642
00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:06.409
as Guardian is the only run that
I have run where I never feel
643
00:51:06.409 --> 00:51:13.929
fatigue. Really it's weird. I've
been running last guardian since the inception of
644
00:51:14.090 --> 00:51:19.320
my twitch channel, HMM, which
would have been around the time Spiro came
645
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:24.199
out, so late. Two Thousand
and eighteen that's how long I've been running
646
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:30.039
it on stream, and the only
time that it ever went away was because
647
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.190
I thought people didn't like it.
HMM. It turns out that actually they
648
00:51:34.190 --> 00:51:36.829
adore it and it's one of their
favorite things that I do, which is
649
00:51:36.869 --> 00:51:38.789
why I came back for a little
while. It was inside, because I
650
00:51:38.829 --> 00:51:44.510
thought people liked that more. I've
just never gotten tired of it. Everything
651
00:51:44.550 --> 00:51:46.860
else I'm like, okay, I
made my goal, I'm good with this.
652
00:51:47.699 --> 00:51:53.139
As Guardian, find excuses to keep
playing it. MMM. Just why?
653
00:51:53.179 --> 00:51:58.219
I do these like let's just flip
my obs backwards, and so the
654
00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:00.570
controls are and I seriously did that. I love it. Is the showers.
655
00:52:01.409 --> 00:52:06.530
who was the worst idea, because
in my brain I was like,
656
00:52:06.650 --> 00:52:09.289
okay, I'm going to flip my
obs, like invert it right, so
657
00:52:09.449 --> 00:52:15.570
it's like mirrored world in a game. But what my brain didn't comprehend until
658
00:52:15.570 --> 00:52:19.360
I started playing was that that meant
the controls were back words too. Yeah,
659
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.079
is there a little bit of way
watching through obs as well? Not
660
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:29.360
For me, thankfully, my my
computer seems to handle it really well that
661
00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:34.789
I have never felt so burnt out
in my brain as after I finished that
662
00:52:34.869 --> 00:52:37.230
run. Yeah, well, I
don't think I could put it was to
663
00:52:37.309 --> 00:52:42.389
those controls. Was Fun and I
still finished, I think, with like
664
00:52:42.429 --> 00:52:46.420
a three hundred and fifty. Oh
really, it's that's pretty solid. Yeah,
665
00:52:46.460 --> 00:52:52.820
yeah, you have any in white
tower skip like with inverted controls?
666
00:52:55.139 --> 00:53:00.409
You seriously? We have some clips
of its accidentally press left when I meant
667
00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:06.289
to push a little bit right and
fall falling. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
668
00:53:06.329 --> 00:53:08.329
I have at least one clip that
somebody took at that point. On my
669
00:53:08.369 --> 00:53:14.440
channel. It's called like I'm me
and I am a victor or something.
670
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.960
That was those trying to little myself
from each yeah. Yeah, I was
671
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.280
trying to slip myself up for doing
it. Those are the moments, for
672
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:30.190
sure. You have any thoughts on
like longer categories versus like sub our categories,
673
00:53:30.869 --> 00:53:37.030
or is it just very players of
our Oh really sub hour whenever possible.
674
00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:43.699
Like I try anukie to make many
last guardian categories as possible to make
675
00:53:43.739 --> 00:53:45.980
it accessible for people, and it
makes me really sad that in a game
676
00:53:46.059 --> 00:53:52.099
like that there just aren't really short
categories. We have windmill basically for people
677
00:53:52.099 --> 00:53:55.130
who want to do a little bit
of last Guardian. So that's like fifteen
678
00:53:55.170 --> 00:54:00.650
minutes. But I I'm given a
choice between a category that's fifty minutes at
679
00:54:00.650 --> 00:54:04.010
a category that's an hour and a
half, I'll choose the fifty minute one
680
00:54:04.369 --> 00:54:08.449
less there's something immensely appealing about the
other one. Yeah, for sure,
681
00:54:08.570 --> 00:54:14.239
I'm I mean just time. Dedication
alone is a big factor. Man Don't
682
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.599
have I have time during the day, but I don't have like a ton
683
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:21.159
of time during the day in order
to make time during my work day for
684
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:29.829
the last Guardian, which a bad
day is like forty I just have to
685
00:54:29.869 --> 00:54:34.469
plan my entire week around it and
have to organize my work around making that
686
00:54:34.630 --> 00:54:38.260
chunk of approximately three and a half
to four hours a Tuesday. So I
687
00:54:38.420 --> 00:54:44.219
just I can't take runs that are
that long. MMM and a regular basis.
688
00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:50.900
Ego is pushing it two hours.
PATHOS is also kind of pushing it
689
00:54:50.940 --> 00:54:52.650
at two hours. I really don't
think I can take anything more than two
690
00:54:52.650 --> 00:54:58.329
hours in addition to last guardian.
That seems that you've kind of done that
691
00:54:58.530 --> 00:55:05.050
whole the the team eco collection.
You have, like any more love for
692
00:55:05.250 --> 00:55:09.159
shadow of the Colossus versus Eco.
I love shadow the colossus as a speed
693
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.559
run. I don't like it,
and that's not to say that it's not
694
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.039
an amazing speed run and that the
people who do it are just absolutely bonkers.
695
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.670
It's just that the kind of tech
that you use in that run is
696
00:55:21.710 --> 00:55:25.190
the kind of tech that I'm not
good at. So for me it's a
697
00:55:25.230 --> 00:55:30.590
really challenging run. It's bonkers to
watch and I highly recommend the people check
698
00:55:30.590 --> 00:55:36.219
it out. But I want to
do we have a category on our extension
699
00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:40.380
board called Tricoffecta, which is where
you play Eco, Chato, classis and
700
00:55:40.380 --> 00:55:45.579
the last guardian in a in a
relay on run or doing all three games
701
00:55:46.300 --> 00:55:52.690
and shadow the Colossus definitely intimidates me
the most. Feel fine with ECO I
702
00:55:52.730 --> 00:55:55.409
feel fine with last guardian. Those
are just me and my ai companions doing
703
00:55:55.449 --> 00:55:59.730
stuff out of the Colossus is like, Oh yeah, I'm going to stand
704
00:55:59.769 --> 00:56:01.449
on this giant creature's leg and he's
going to vault me into the air and
705
00:56:01.530 --> 00:56:07.159
probably all land on his head.
Maybe wild. Yeah, it just baffles
706
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.599
me. I love it as a
game. It's a wonderful game. Was
707
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:17.590
One of my core childhood games.
I was fortunate, or maybe unfortunately,
708
00:56:17.590 --> 00:56:21.949
I don't know, I didn't play
it originally, but when the remaster came
709
00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:24.710
out I was like, Oh,
this is actually really solid. Yeah,
710
00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:31.550
for sure. I grew up on
the PSTWO version and didn't play the psthree
711
00:56:31.590 --> 00:56:36.780
version. Like the remake thing that
comes with ECO. MMM. Until I'm
712
00:56:36.820 --> 00:56:39.059
at my husband and he was like
I don't have the platinum trophy for this
713
00:56:39.139 --> 00:56:42.260
game, and I was like hold
on, how to get the Platt I
714
00:56:42.340 --> 00:56:45.460
got this, come on, got
this for you like this, this is
715
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:49.170
going to be so easy. I
was wrong, because the three version,
716
00:56:50.329 --> 00:56:53.090
psthree version, just seems like wanders
covered in just I can't believe it's not
717
00:56:53.210 --> 00:56:58.369
butter really that bad. He just
he's all over the place. If it's
718
00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:00.409
your first exposure of the game.
You probably don't feel it. I was
719
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.320
so used to the PSTWO that it
was a real struggle. We still don't
720
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.639
have that platinum. Really, you
never finished it? Yeah, well,
721
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:15.710
frustrated, a way too frustrated on
hard time attack argus. But and then
722
00:57:15.789 --> 00:57:17.949
you know the two thousand and eighteen. I think two thousand and eighteen remake
723
00:57:19.190 --> 00:57:23.710
is phenomenal. Of course, not
right. We're having a weird bug because
724
00:57:23.710 --> 00:57:27.389
I picked it up early and I
think they fixed it, but it would
725
00:57:27.949 --> 00:57:31.420
just like the physics didn't work or
like a boss disappeared or something great.
726
00:57:31.659 --> 00:57:37.099
Uh Huh. What do you look
for now? And a speed run then,
727
00:57:37.300 --> 00:57:42.420
like any potential new games. Well, if it has an a I
728
00:57:42.539 --> 00:57:49.610
companion, I'm probably giving it a
favorable outlook. A look though, like
729
00:57:49.730 --> 00:57:54.449
let's just take, for example,
ask Guardian versus hollow night, as I
730
00:57:54.530 --> 00:57:59.559
did try to learn hollow night,
and I say try on purpose. Yeah,
731
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:06.480
but it's guardian last. Guardian is
very much get from point a to
732
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:12.599
point B. do that in a
reasonable way, you'll be good. Allow
733
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.909
night is you need to crystal dash
from exactly this position. If you do
734
00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:19.670
not, you fail, and not
only do you fail, you don't get
735
00:58:19.670 --> 00:58:24.309
to try again. Yeah, you
know. So, if it has stuff
736
00:58:24.429 --> 00:58:31.019
like that, we're consistently you're asked
to make very, very specific that necessarily
737
00:58:31.019 --> 00:58:34.780
once to say pixel perfect, but
you know what I mean, very specific
738
00:58:34.940 --> 00:58:39.420
stuff that you cannot continue the run
until you get that correct. That discourages
739
00:58:39.460 --> 00:58:44.489
me from from doing that because I
just don't have the time to like practice
740
00:58:44.530 --> 00:58:47.329
that kind of stuff. Yeah,
makes this guardian, you know, last
741
00:58:47.369 --> 00:58:53.050
Guardian, making drawbridge skip, for
example, which is really important and very
742
00:58:53.130 --> 00:58:58.599
precise, doesn't mean that you have
to do it exactly one way. We
743
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.559
can do it a bunch of ways
and still succeed, but it's still very
744
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:05.800
hard. That's like the ideal place
that I want to be. You know,
745
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:09.750
there's nothing again against hollow night.
Once again, hollow night blows my
746
00:59:09.750 --> 00:59:15.789
mind and people like emery who run
it or just like what and it's the
747
00:59:15.829 --> 00:59:19.750
same kind of thing. WHI shadowed
the classes to the classes is kind of
748
00:59:19.789 --> 00:59:22.869
in between hollow night and last Guardian. You have some wiggle room, but
749
00:59:23.190 --> 00:59:27.619
there's still, you know, they're
doing super jumps and stuff like that that
750
00:59:27.739 --> 00:59:31.739
are predicated upon being in a very
specific position and doing something at exactly the
751
00:59:31.780 --> 00:59:38.489
right time and it's like a m
yeah, the inputs for hollow night are
752
00:59:38.489 --> 00:59:43.650
kind of not fantastic as well,
and I guess it's right or related to
753
00:59:44.090 --> 00:59:46.769
your frame rate as well. So, yeah, where you playing on switch?
754
00:59:49.050 --> 00:59:52.320
So I think that was part of
the problem. I think that you
755
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.960
can probably have a little bit more
success with hollow night than I did on
756
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:02.960
pc, but I played on a
PSFOUR opie. So yeah, simple things
757
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.150
like doing a down slash to pogo
off of something was suddenly not as simple
758
01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:13.030
as just pressing the down Arrow.
Yeah, you know, because I was
759
01:00:13.110 --> 01:00:15.510
using joystick, and so then it's
like less accurate and it just kind of
760
01:00:15.550 --> 01:00:23.900
feels proofear, if that's if that's
a word. So it's an I don't
761
01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:27.780
I don't want to say that PC
players have an advantage or anything, but
762
01:00:27.940 --> 01:00:30.300
I think that if I would have
tried on pc, I might have been
763
01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:32.460
a little more successful. Oh,
it's a when it's stat of comes to
764
01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:37.610
your inputs and stuff like that.
That's a definite advantage out about it,
765
01:00:37.130 --> 01:00:43.690
especially the sort of super precision that
some things require. HMM, I'm kind
766
01:00:43.690 --> 01:00:47.170
of just got big into hollow night
running stuff. What category did you try
767
01:00:47.210 --> 01:00:54.400
to learn skills Oh, really nice. I got probably a decent like twenty
768
01:00:54.480 --> 01:01:00.119
five minutes, like I had the
first twenty five minutes. Down was however
769
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.960
far you get when you get to
that dark room that you have to navigate
770
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.630
without the lantern. Yeah, the
dark room alone has kept me off of
771
01:01:06.710 --> 01:01:09.190
all skills, at least for now. Yep, I got to that and
772
01:01:09.349 --> 01:01:13.070
I practice it for a long time
and I got no better at it.
773
01:01:13.150 --> 01:01:16.829
MMM, and I was like okay, okay, I think I'm done.
774
01:01:19.099 --> 01:01:22.900
I love Halinda. Is a game
and yeah, I still occasionally come back
775
01:01:22.019 --> 01:01:25.780
and just like try to Redo Panther
on of Hellenist and stuff like that,
776
01:01:28.219 --> 01:01:30.780
because I was so bad at it. I guess this might be what makes
777
01:01:30.820 --> 01:01:35.769
me tick a little weirdly. I
was so terrible at it. It was
778
01:01:35.849 --> 01:01:37.730
like I need to do that.
I am not going to let this game
779
01:01:37.769 --> 01:01:42.130
beat me. And I got to
like I was learning it and for any
780
01:01:42.170 --> 01:01:46.360
percent you do watch or nights with
only BS and in my casual play through,
781
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.800
I pretty much I monkey brain.
I was like let me hit things
782
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.440
with my nail as almost my only
damage output. So I built for that,
783
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:57.400
which is fine, but to start
playing the games like hey, your
784
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.239
nail does nothing. Start using fireballs, like I can't do this, and
785
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:06.150
I probably had to play the watchers
for like three hours before I didn't die.
786
01:02:06.269 --> 01:02:09.510
Ninety percent of the time. It's
like very similar to how I felt,
787
01:02:09.510 --> 01:02:14.510
because I've always played in casual and
like doing panther of Hellenist and everything.
788
01:02:14.829 --> 01:02:17.019
Obviously, in order to beat pant
out of Hellenist you have to practice
789
01:02:17.059 --> 01:02:22.300
the bosses a lot. So I
had all of these bosses ingrained with this
790
01:02:22.500 --> 01:02:25.860
like nail centric combat. Then you
go to the speed run and it's like,
791
01:02:25.980 --> 01:02:29.179
Oh, you're just using descending dark
all the time. Yeah, for
792
01:02:29.340 --> 01:02:31.889
whatever, all these all these spells, and I'm like, I don't I
793
01:02:32.010 --> 01:02:36.690
don't know the timings for any of
this. I could learn, but there
794
01:02:36.769 --> 01:02:38.929
were just things that I wanted to
do more, you know, watching like
795
01:02:39.050 --> 01:02:44.920
the the M rays, Viz fireborn, all those oper runners. It's insane.
796
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.760
I was like, Oh, I
play this game entirely wrong. Yep,
797
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.440
but it's cool. It kind of
opens up a new style. Yeah,
798
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.960
and it's kind of second nature to
them at that point. Yeah,
799
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:59.429
just like it is to me with
with last Guardian. You know, people
800
01:03:00.510 --> 01:03:04.269
I take for granted the Times that
I get in last Guardian because those times
801
01:03:04.349 --> 01:03:07.829
our second nature to me. But
it just is years and years of doing
802
01:03:07.869 --> 01:03:12.030
it over and over again. You
do anything for years over and over again,
803
01:03:12.030 --> 01:03:15.659
you'll get better at it. It's
a fascinating effect to me running and
804
01:03:15.820 --> 01:03:19.340
some that I really enjoyed and I
just kind of shows the time you put
805
01:03:19.420 --> 01:03:23.860
in. Is once you break of
a milestone of a barrier, it seems
806
01:03:23.900 --> 01:03:28.409
like you consistently don't go back.
Yeah, you don't go back, and
807
01:03:28.530 --> 01:03:32.010
it's so fascinating to me. It's
funny and I wonder if there's like a
808
01:03:32.050 --> 01:03:36.969
little a little mental part of that
too. MMM. You know you like
809
01:03:37.570 --> 01:03:42.800
for last Guardian, that that final
barrier is typically three and thirty. So
810
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:49.119
you break three and thirty, you've
like broken into like the the the Golden
811
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:54.519
Center of this egg that is the
last guardian speed running go back and it's
812
01:03:55.389 --> 01:03:59.150
I wonder if it's just seeing that
you have a three hundred and twenty eight
813
01:03:59.150 --> 01:04:01.789
or whatever, and then your brain
is like, Oh, I did this
814
01:04:01.909 --> 01:04:04.469
thing like that, I can do
that again, that was no problem.
815
01:04:05.550 --> 01:04:11.380
That helps, you know, is
even in a game like last guardian that
816
01:04:11.420 --> 01:04:14.860
has so much rng, once you
break the three and thirty, you typically
817
01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:17.340
don't go back. So it's not
just that, oh, I have a
818
01:04:17.380 --> 01:04:21.539
three and thirteen in the s like
the big barrier, for sure. Yeah,
819
01:04:23.219 --> 01:04:26.650
well, three hundred and twenty remained
my barrier for for a decent amount
820
01:04:26.650 --> 01:04:29.570
of time. Then again, you
know, I went past the three and
821
01:04:29.570 --> 01:04:33.449
twenty and didn't really go back,
and now I consider I consider a three
822
01:04:33.489 --> 01:04:38.880
hundred and twenty two to be boy, what happened here? You know,
823
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.519
figure it out, boy. And
we just did a big race in our
824
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:49.480
community, which is a bunch of
people racing together for the last Guardian because,
825
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:55.590
amazingly we actually have enough people to
do that. And I thought,
826
01:04:55.789 --> 01:04:58.349
you know, this is just a
raise, it's just for fun. I'm
827
01:04:58.349 --> 01:05:01.309
going to have fun, and so
I did the run, tempting like a
828
01:05:01.389 --> 01:05:06.179
bunch of tests, only strats that
we're almost guaranteed to fail, but I
829
01:05:06.260 --> 01:05:11.139
just wanted to kind of goof around. Yeah, why not? I lost
830
01:05:11.179 --> 01:05:14.219
a ton of time, I was
dying all over the place and that sort
831
01:05:14.219 --> 01:05:15.579
of thing, and I still ended
up with a three and twenty six really.
832
01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:18.980
So you know, once, like
you said, once you get past
833
01:05:19.019 --> 01:05:25.170
those milestones, kind of don't slide
backwards. And to see then a lot
834
01:05:25.250 --> 01:05:31.730
of things, even I don't know
a good reference, but like maybe in
835
01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:35.519
skateboarding it's all like somebody, I
think is Tony Hawk, had got like
836
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.840
the first ten eighty or something,
and then everybody's pulling out to s and
837
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.000
just in general and running and stuff, a lot of people watch one person
838
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:48.920
push of time barrier and then several
other people tend to do it. Well.
839
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.469
Yeah, so that the mental side
of it is vain for sure.
840
01:05:54.230 --> 01:05:57.550
The example that came to my mind, which once again shows how kind of
841
01:05:58.750 --> 01:06:02.949
niche in my interests, figure skating. Same thing happens in figure skating.
842
01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:09.139
For the longest time people couldn't do
a quadruple lots and then as soon as
843
01:06:09.179 --> 01:06:13.500
one person did it, everybody else
suddenly they can do quadruple lots is which
844
01:06:13.619 --> 01:06:16.780
things they thought to be impossible.
So you know, it's the same thing
845
01:06:17.019 --> 01:06:23.329
across a bunch of sports and stuff. I guess just because of relevance and
846
01:06:23.570 --> 01:06:26.809
you know Okyo and all that are. Are you a fan of the Olympics?
847
01:06:27.130 --> 01:06:30.409
You catching any of that and watching
it from time to time, but
848
01:06:30.530 --> 01:06:35.559
honestly I haven't paid too much attention
to it. I saw that Simone biles
849
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:39.880
withdrew in. A bunch of Americans
were salty and I'm like what? Yeah,
850
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.000
a lot of twitter. I don't
know, like much of the context
851
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:47.389
for it. Yeah, she's having
you know, her mentals just not there,
852
01:06:47.510 --> 01:06:51.429
which, yeah, but in the
end, like, are you going
853
01:06:51.469 --> 01:06:54.429
to go to the Olympics and do
better? Yeah, right, just let
854
01:06:54.469 --> 01:06:57.110
her make a decision. As you're
eating pizza on your couch, you're going
855
01:06:57.150 --> 01:07:00.940
to complain. Yeah, her not, sadly. Yeah. Yeah, I
856
01:07:00.980 --> 01:07:05.619
haven't really been watching too closely.
I was a little bit disappointed. Hakuho,
857
01:07:05.820 --> 01:07:13.019
Yokozuna in Sumo, was anticipated to
do some sort of like nice traditional
858
01:07:13.099 --> 01:07:16.210
ceremony, I. At the opening
of the Olympics, and he didn't get
859
01:07:16.250 --> 01:07:19.329
too. For whatever reason, I
guess they decided not to do that and
860
01:07:19.449 --> 01:07:26.489
that made a lot of people said
yeah, right, especially you kind of
861
01:07:26.489 --> 01:07:30.039
start hyping it up and then like
I never mind. Yeah, exactly.
862
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:33.800
TACO is getting ready to retire and
everybody was like, og, at least
863
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.559
we get to see him in the
Olympics, you know, and then he
864
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:42.519
didn't get to do it. All
Right, I definitely have to ask about
865
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:46.710
this. And it was so cool
to kind of watch like hosted or was
866
01:07:46.789 --> 01:07:53.070
at least restreaming the sumo tournament.
Yeah, that's so unique to me,
867
01:07:53.469 --> 01:07:58.619
like I've never seen anybody do that
on twitch before, but huge fan know
868
01:07:58.860 --> 01:08:01.059
so much. That made it very
engaging and like I don't really know sumo,
869
01:08:01.099 --> 01:08:03.099
I know they try to push each
other out of the ring. Like
870
01:08:03.380 --> 01:08:06.739
I can understand the scoring system,
everything, how it works. Give a
871
01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:10.260
really good insight. That's something you
think you're going to do more of?
872
01:08:11.099 --> 01:08:15.610
Yeah, for sure. I tend
to do one to two sumo s dreams
873
01:08:15.690 --> 01:08:19.329
per tournament, which happens every of
the month. It was a pain in
874
01:08:19.369 --> 01:08:23.609
the but, if I'm being honest, to get permission, you know,
875
01:08:23.770 --> 01:08:27.520
because I had to like write a
letter in Japanese. Thankfully I have a
876
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.600
Japanese major, write a letter in
Japanese to like the NHK and then they
877
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:36.319
forwarded it on to the people the
Nihon Sumo Kyo Kai, who manage the
878
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:40.279
sumo stuff, and then I have
to be like hey, this is how
879
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:44.510
many people I expect and can I
have permission to do this? And is
880
01:08:44.510 --> 01:08:46.470
in the middle of Covid so I
wasn't even sure if my letter was going
881
01:08:46.470 --> 01:08:50.510
to get to Japan. Yeah,
writing mail stuff is a pain in the
882
01:08:50.590 --> 01:08:57.220
butt, but I'm glad that people
enjoy it. That's like the most somehow
883
01:08:57.260 --> 01:09:01.220
Japanese thing that had to do a
physical letter as well. Yeah, well,
884
01:09:01.260 --> 01:09:05.779
because I contacted them via email and
actually via twitter first. HMM,
885
01:09:05.859 --> 01:09:09.220
as like can I do this,
and they were like send it to our
886
01:09:09.260 --> 01:09:13.569
office. Yeah, I don't want
to send it to your office. From
887
01:09:13.649 --> 01:09:16.170
what I've heard from a lot of
people that work they're like in the cities
888
01:09:16.210 --> 01:09:20.529
and stuff depends. Seems so progressive
on so many things, but then for
889
01:09:20.649 --> 01:09:26.119
some reason, like a lot of
their business tactics are very stone age like
890
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:30.079
still sending facts and stuff like that. Like what you guys have robots that
891
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.079
do everything, but you don't like
a cell phone. Yeah, there's something
892
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:39.029
apparently, about a physical copy of
something. Yeah, but yes, in
893
01:09:39.109 --> 01:09:41.109
most rings are a lot of take
for them to get back to you.
894
01:09:41.590 --> 01:09:44.949
I would think this would be like
this isn't real right, some Americans trying
895
01:09:44.989 --> 01:09:48.109
to get access to her our stuff. Well, it took it took two
896
01:09:48.109 --> 01:09:51.789
or three weeks for the letter to
get there. MMM, so it took
897
01:09:51.899 --> 01:09:58.899
quite a long time to sort everything
out. I'M NOT gonna lie. Part
898
01:09:58.899 --> 01:10:02.819
of me might have maybe if it
just didn't come back of like a oversk
899
01:10:02.899 --> 01:10:05.939
it. It's not like they're going
to really DMCA me. They probably won't
900
01:10:05.939 --> 01:10:12.130
even know right. Yeah, especially
because I'm so small. But how did
901
01:10:12.130 --> 01:10:14.770
you get into him? At least
you can at least try to do the
902
01:10:14.850 --> 01:10:19.689
right thing right, right. How
did I get into sumo? I lived
903
01:10:19.850 --> 01:10:25.800
in Japan for a bit in Hi
Kone, which is in Sheeta Prefecture,
904
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.920
and while I was there I was
making that documentary for the Asian Studies Department
905
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:35.909
and I was like I better go
and see as much of Japan cultural stuff
906
01:10:35.949 --> 01:10:43.270
as I can. So I went
to see Ukai, which is cormorant fishing,
907
01:10:43.310 --> 01:10:45.630
where they take birds that catch the
fish for them and bring them back
908
01:10:45.630 --> 01:10:53.260
to the boat, like no,
Kabuki, sumo, all that sort of
909
01:10:53.300 --> 01:10:56.619
stuff, and I saw sumo.
It was like this is the best thing
910
01:10:56.699 --> 01:11:00.939
ever. It just something about it
clicked. Yeah, and I was really,
911
01:11:01.539 --> 01:11:06.130
really, really enjoying it and I
ended up didn't know or understand the
912
01:11:06.210 --> 01:11:11.369
significance at the time, but I
do now. Akaho, the Yokozuna,
913
01:11:11.529 --> 01:11:15.970
is famous because of how many tournaments
he's won. He's won more than any
914
01:11:16.010 --> 01:11:25.039
other Oh, because Zuna and his
inspiration, his mentor the person that he
915
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:30.439
wanted to be like was the Yokozuna, Taiho, and I happened to be
916
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.310
there, unbeknownst to me at the
time, on Day fifteen, the final
917
01:11:33.350 --> 01:11:40.829
day, and he beat Taiho's record. Oh that's cool now. Yeah,
918
01:11:40.949 --> 01:11:43.189
like looking back, I was like, Oh, I'm so glad I was
919
01:11:43.229 --> 01:11:45.789
there, but buying the ticket I
was just like, well, I guess
920
01:11:45.829 --> 01:11:48.739
I'll go on Day fifteen because this
is the most convenient day of the week
921
01:11:49.579 --> 01:11:55.539
for me. So it was.
It was a nice little surprise, but
922
01:11:56.260 --> 01:11:58.460
I just I went and watched it. It was great. I've been a
923
01:11:58.539 --> 01:12:02.930
fan ever since. Does your brain
kind of registered? Japanese very fluidly.
924
01:12:04.569 --> 01:12:10.329
Depends on what I'm looking at.
I'm actually, I would say, better
925
01:12:10.609 --> 01:12:15.079
than average at Kanji. It's I
think most people struggle with for some reason.
926
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:21.439
I suck at Katakana really, which
is should be the simplest thing,
927
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:27.560
because it's just foreign words put into
Japanese. Yeah, and so you would
928
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:32.630
think we have one person who submits
to a couple of the marathons that I
929
01:12:32.750 --> 01:12:39.590
help with who their name on the
submission sheet is always in Katakana, and
930
01:12:39.710 --> 01:12:46.220
I always read it real slowly and
I'm like Whuaudi Sta, what what?
931
01:12:46.779 --> 01:12:53.739
And it's falling star, like it
takes me like five minutes. It feels
932
01:12:53.779 --> 01:12:57.060
like those games. During it the
first time I didn't place it as like
933
01:12:57.260 --> 01:13:01.569
what. Yeah, it's like those
games where the words are separated in different
934
01:13:01.569 --> 01:13:03.930
ways, but if you read it
fast or slow it makes sense. HMM.
935
01:13:05.130 --> 01:13:09.529
That's what I have to do every
time I read Katakana and my husband
936
01:13:09.850 --> 01:13:12.850
just looks at it and he's like, Falling Star, what's your problem,
937
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.000
you know, and I'm like,
I'm sorry, I'm so bad at this.
938
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.520
So you think it would be easy. And because when I was in
939
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:25.800
Japan I wrote a paper in Japanese, like a thesis in Japanese, on
940
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.189
where all of these kind of kind
of words come from. Oh really,
941
01:13:29.310 --> 01:13:31.989
it could, because like it turns
out that approximately like one percent of all
942
01:13:32.069 --> 01:13:38.109
caughta kind of words are from South
Africa. How did it is that happen?
943
01:13:38.710 --> 01:13:43.659
Right? So it's very weird and
very interesting. And so somehow I
944
01:13:43.699 --> 01:13:49.140
wrote that entire paper and I still
just can't brain. What about like auditories?
945
01:13:49.220 --> 01:13:53.579
That that's more was wondering. I
mean that is fast eating, but
946
01:13:54.260 --> 01:14:00.770
I'm decent at listening comprehension as well. I'm not great at speaking. That's
947
01:14:00.850 --> 01:14:09.090
hard by my mouth just doesn't doesn't
do it good, and I think it's
948
01:14:09.130 --> 01:14:12.239
the linguist thing, it's the editor
thing. I want to make sure everything's
949
01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.399
like organized and right, so I
end up just staring at you for like
950
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:19.720
thirty seconds one putting the pieces together
in my brain. Meanwhile my husband's just
951
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:23.920
like I'm gonna vomit something out and
you'll vaguely understand it and be okay,
952
01:14:24.710 --> 01:14:26.670
you know, and that's that's the
better way to do it. Like if
953
01:14:26.710 --> 01:14:29.350
you're learning a language and you want
to learn to speak, well, do
954
01:14:29.470 --> 01:14:33.949
it like he does. Just say
things. That's the better way. It's
955
01:14:33.989 --> 01:14:40.300
a definitely just trying seems like the
better option, but it feels so embarrassing
956
01:14:40.420 --> 01:14:45.539
sometimes it does. Yeah, I
I've had a hard drive. I thrive
957
01:14:45.699 --> 01:14:48.340
on written stuff. Like if you
need me to write a super formal in
958
01:14:48.539 --> 01:14:51.659
CAGO business email, I'm like,
Oh yeah, I'm all over this.
959
01:14:54.449 --> 01:14:56.689
But if you want me to walk
into a hotel and be like hey,
960
01:14:56.689 --> 01:15:00.449
can you hold our luggage for a
couple hours, like I out, it's
961
01:15:00.529 --> 01:15:02.289
probably fine. Just take our luggage
with us. It's let we deal.
962
01:15:02.930 --> 01:15:09.279
You know, I'd rather not do
it this. Maybe you can make sense
963
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.119
of this, since here the linguist
here it. I don't know why,
964
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.119
it blew my mind. I feel
silly, for it was like the first
965
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.600
week that I had moved to Japan, I had heard so much about this
966
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:24.109
Cocos Curry, which a little overrated. It's good, but it's not like
967
01:15:24.270 --> 01:15:28.630
all that. I lived in a
building connected to a Cocos current nice.
968
01:15:30.109 --> 01:15:32.510
Well, I had gone in and
I just expected, I don't know,
969
01:15:32.869 --> 01:15:35.819
my my brain is like I'll be
able to somehow make it work, because
970
01:15:35.859 --> 01:15:41.699
I'm talking like the first or second
day I was there even, and the
971
01:15:41.899 --> 01:15:45.659
the lay that's working there, she's
just speaking Japanese and I had zero comprehension
972
01:15:45.699 --> 01:15:50.050
at the time. Like in my
brain, for some reason want to reply
973
01:15:50.289 --> 01:15:57.569
in Spanish, like this makes sense
for some reason. Yeah, just something
974
01:15:57.609 --> 01:16:00.810
that's like a foreign must be.
Let me resort to something that's not what
975
01:16:00.930 --> 01:16:04.760
I know completely, but I kind
of know. Yep, the the part
976
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:09.880
of your brain that process is language
is like, oh, different language,
977
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:15.439
okay, and then it didn't pick
the language that it's because it was so
978
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.949
focused on different language that it wasn't
like. Okay, let's look at the
979
01:16:18.989 --> 01:16:26.430
context about which language I made the
wrong choice. Brain is weird. Yeah,
980
01:16:26.510 --> 01:16:29.909
the brain is super, Super Weird, which is why I like some
981
01:16:30.069 --> 01:16:34.739
people who have strokes that damage the
language centers of their brain. Sometimes they
982
01:16:34.779 --> 01:16:40.939
can speak one language fine and then
another language is like destroyed in the process.
983
01:16:41.140 --> 01:16:45.060
Really, I didn't know those thing. That's terrifying. And there's there's
984
01:16:46.170 --> 01:16:49.369
yeah, there's all sorts of stuff
going on in the language processing center of
985
01:16:49.449 --> 01:16:54.250
your brain. So like some some
damage to that can cause you to speak.
986
01:16:55.930 --> 01:17:00.810
This really fascinated me. One type
of damage will cause you to speak
987
01:17:00.810 --> 01:17:04.640
in a way that your words like
grammatically makes sense, but they don't make
988
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:10.359
sense in the conversation. So if
you ask me how is your day,
989
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:15.680
I might respond with the dog is
blue, like that's a sentence that works
990
01:17:15.750 --> 01:17:18.550
in English, but it's not the
right answer. Someone else was slightly different
991
01:17:18.550 --> 01:17:24.149
damage. Will Attempt to respond correctly, but their words won't make sense.
992
01:17:25.390 --> 01:17:28.630
They'll just have like a string of
nouns or something, you know, in
993
01:17:28.750 --> 01:17:32.460
response to your question. But they'll
understand and they'll they'll try to answer appropriately.
994
01:17:33.380 --> 01:17:38.539
So just mighty little differences can can
make big changes in your in your
995
01:17:38.579 --> 01:17:44.369
language parts. You think you're more
since you kind of have the background and
996
01:17:44.449 --> 01:17:47.890
stuff. Do you think you're more
apt to learning new languages? I think
997
01:17:47.930 --> 01:17:55.170
I'm more apt to using them well, once I learn them, I think
998
01:17:55.210 --> 01:18:00.920
that I'm slower to learn them because
I'm so focused on the details, you
999
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:09.079
know, like if I learn adjectives
in Japanese, my immediate thought isn't this
1000
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.479
is an adjective. My thought is, okay, this is an adjective.
1001
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.949
How do I use it as a
predicate adjective versus, as you know,
1002
01:18:15.989 --> 01:18:20.229
a modifying adjective to a noun,
and adverbs be used the same way that
1003
01:18:20.270 --> 01:18:24.310
they are in English. And then
my teachers like, what are you talking
1004
01:18:24.350 --> 01:18:28.779
about? Just learn the vocabulary,
you know. No, you're butchering it.
1005
01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:33.859
So I get a little too hyperfocused
on details that don't matter at the
1006
01:18:33.859 --> 01:18:36.619
moment. Yeah, I guess most
people probably wouln't even think about it's like,
1007
01:18:36.779 --> 01:18:41.420
oh, that's just how it is. Yeah, and the need to
1008
01:18:41.449 --> 01:18:47.649
analyze it, though, I guess
jumping back to a little bit of your
1009
01:18:47.930 --> 01:18:53.210
your speed run, I suppose,
how did you really get into streaming and
1010
01:18:53.729 --> 01:18:58.680
did you like it right away.
I have to admit that I didn't really
1011
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:02.000
like it right away, but I
think that's not necessarily an uncommon thing,
1012
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.039
because when you don't have anybody watching
you and you're just speaking into the void,
1013
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:10.350
HMM, you know, it's kind
of me, but my husband was
1014
01:19:10.430 --> 01:19:14.310
like you should stream, because if
you're going to be doing it, you
1015
01:19:14.350 --> 01:19:17.550
might as well be doing it for
other people, and I was like,
1016
01:19:17.630 --> 01:19:21.590
okay, I guess. But realistically
the thing that made me stream was that
1017
01:19:23.149 --> 01:19:29.060
twitch was a freeway to have bods. You know. Yeah, if I
1018
01:19:29.140 --> 01:19:32.100
streamed to twitch, I could just
automatically have a submission video, because I'm
1019
01:19:32.100 --> 01:19:34.739
sure you saw, because I know
you dug in my youtube that I used
1020
01:19:34.739 --> 01:19:42.369
to for spiral ignited it. Just
have my camera pointed the TV a method
1021
01:19:42.569 --> 01:19:46.130
for sure, and I kind of
got tired of trying to perfectly balance the
1022
01:19:46.170 --> 01:19:49.770
IPAD so that it was recording the
TV, and I've had care to even
1023
01:19:49.890 --> 01:19:54.199
better. Yeah, but I was
like I would rather just not do this,
1024
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.600
and so I started streaming so that
I could have submission videos and one
1025
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.880
thing led to another. Realized like, well, a lot of people have
1026
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.600
player cams. They say you should
have player cams. Maybe I could just
1027
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:09.550
put more on instead because I don't
want to be on Cam. And then
1028
01:20:09.590 --> 01:20:13.350
people liked more and then I got
better. Act just makes perfect. I
1029
01:20:13.390 --> 01:20:15.829
got better at commentary as well and
then it just kind of grew from there.
1030
01:20:16.149 --> 01:20:20.149
Have you ever done like a Oh
hey, special occasion, I'll actually
1031
01:20:20.149 --> 01:20:25.300
use a Webcam, or is it
stayed consistently? I have done that once
1032
01:20:25.619 --> 01:20:32.739
when somebody redeemed the like Seventyzero chat
points or whatever for a lizard hangout stream
1033
01:20:34.060 --> 01:20:40.529
a reptile long. It was a
feeling, is it not? For you?
1034
01:20:41.729 --> 01:20:45.369
It's I don't like the way that
I look on camera, so I
1035
01:20:45.449 --> 01:20:48.449
would kind of like but you know, I had the reptiles. That made
1036
01:20:48.449 --> 01:20:55.479
it fun. People really enjoyed it. I have a clip on my whitch
1037
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:57.960
channel of me from that, so
you can see me if you want.
1038
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.239
I was holding my Tegoo, which
a Tagoo is like a giant for foot
1039
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.989
lizard. I was holding him for
the camera because people could request what reptile
1040
01:21:04.989 --> 01:21:10.510
they wanted to see. He just
he eateth straight out of my arm.
1041
01:21:11.069 --> 01:21:15.869
He has he yoked out of my
arms. He was flying. It was
1042
01:21:15.949 --> 01:21:20.739
great. So I have that clip
and again makes me happy when I make
1043
01:21:20.819 --> 01:21:27.859
people less nervous about reptiles. MMM. So the fact that people were able
1044
01:21:27.859 --> 01:21:32.210
to see me with a big like
Boa constrictor or on my neck and I'm
1045
01:21:32.289 --> 01:21:36.289
like he's squeezing but he's not hurting, like it's okay, he's not going
1046
01:21:36.329 --> 01:21:41.409
to hurt me, made them feel
better and that makes me feel Nice.
1047
01:21:41.649 --> 01:21:45.449
You know, I guess you have
a four foot tall reptile. Are you
1048
01:21:45.569 --> 01:21:49.000
tall person, or is that like, no, a good portion of your
1049
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:57.119
size as well. He's startlingly close
to me. I am not even five
1050
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:04.270
feet, so a shorty gang.
Yeah, he's quite long. Sam.
1051
01:22:04.750 --> 01:22:10.869
The Boa is longer than me,
six feet. It is scary, actually.
1052
01:22:12.310 --> 01:22:14.430
I don't know why. Something about
is just like, all right,
1053
01:22:14.470 --> 01:22:18.380
Yep, this thing could kill me. I mean squeeze is about as hard
1054
01:22:18.380 --> 01:22:21.140
as you would expect like a ten
year old to be able to squeeze your
1055
01:22:21.180 --> 01:22:27.060
arm. Okay. So if he
starts like be and I said this,
1056
01:22:27.180 --> 01:22:29.340
doing the stream, if you don't
know what you're doing, don't have a
1057
01:22:29.659 --> 01:22:32.489
snake around your neck right, probably
going to call a great place for them
1058
01:22:32.489 --> 01:22:34.850
to be. But if you do
know what you're doing, if it snakes
1059
01:22:34.850 --> 01:22:38.890
around your neck and it starts to
squeeze because it's trying to hold on that
1060
01:22:38.930 --> 01:22:41.890
because it's trying to hurt you.
All you have to do is grab them
1061
01:22:41.930 --> 01:22:44.760
by the tail and unwind them,
because they're really pretty weak, just like
1062
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:46.840
you hear. You know, you
can hold an alligator's mouth shut and it's
1063
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:51.239
very easy. Just grab them by
the tail. They have a really hard
1064
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:56.399
time exerting very much muscle if you
just grabbed by the tail and unwind them.
1065
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.430
You know, I didn't know that
about the alligator, so you might
1066
01:22:59.470 --> 01:23:02.430
save my life one day. I've
I've only heard it. I don't know
1067
01:23:02.550 --> 01:23:06.430
how true it is that they're powerful
biting down, but very weak, like
1068
01:23:06.670 --> 01:23:13.619
opening up, and that's weird,
you would think, right. Yeah,
1069
01:23:13.619 --> 01:23:16.380
I mean, I guess how strong
your triceps compared to your biceps? MMM,
1070
01:23:17.539 --> 01:23:23.140
don't need to open your mouth that
much as an outre aggressively. Yeah,
1071
01:23:24.420 --> 01:23:27.529
yeah, it was fun to do
a Lizard Hangout Stream. Obviously most
1072
01:23:27.569 --> 01:23:30.970
people wanted to see more, and
he was. He was great. But
1073
01:23:30.529 --> 01:23:34.810
I also I keep roaches that I
feed to the reptiles. You keep roaches?
1074
01:23:35.569 --> 01:23:41.560
Yeah, they're not cockroaches, so
they won't. I canfest the house,
1075
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.479
but it's much cheaper to keep them
than it is to go buy them.
1076
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:50.399
Just like ten dollars to buy like
a cup of roaches. Really Dang.
1077
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.399
Yeah, it's really expensive. And
now you know I have like a
1078
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:58.909
thousand roaches for free. Oh do
they just had like on their own and
1079
01:24:00.550 --> 01:24:02.989
you just so that makes sense.
Actually, yeah, you just give them
1080
01:24:03.550 --> 01:24:08.590
the little egg crates that they live
in, and tosses Zucchini in there every
1081
01:24:08.630 --> 01:24:12.859
now and then and they're good to
go. I don't know, and a
1082
01:24:12.939 --> 01:24:15.340
grossed out, even though, like
you're the one keeping them and everything,
1083
01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:19.060
like, I wouldn't want to like
physically grab them to feed to the reptiles.
1084
01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:24.369
I guess. Sure, sure,
it. I've always been fine with
1085
01:24:24.449 --> 01:24:28.489
bugs, so it doesn't really bother
me. And I had somebody asked in
1086
01:24:28.489 --> 01:24:30.689
chat like Hey, can you bring
a roach out? When I did that
1087
01:24:30.289 --> 01:24:35.130
stream I had a big old roach
in my hand just to show how big
1088
01:24:35.170 --> 01:24:41.399
they are. But mostly the unsettling
thing is just the noise they make,
1089
01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.279
because they all, they say,
scatter. No, no, thankfully,
1090
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:49.840
but they scatter if you like pass
by them because they see your shadow right,
1091
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:56.750
and so I just walk and walk
into the reptile room and my shadow
1092
01:24:56.789 --> 01:25:02.109
passes over them. And it's just
this to horrifying, like skidder, you
1093
01:25:02.229 --> 01:25:08.140
know, as they all go and
hide. Thinking about now, is your
1094
01:25:08.180 --> 01:25:12.060
house like a sauna, because I
imagine it's Gott be pretty humid and a
1095
01:25:12.100 --> 01:25:15.460
little warm right. It could be
a challenge because I like it really warm.
1096
01:25:15.579 --> 01:25:19.739
I'm always cold. So to me, like Thermostatu is currently set at
1097
01:25:19.779 --> 01:25:25.250
seventy five monster. Well, seventy
five to me is like the bare minimum.
1098
01:25:25.850 --> 01:25:31.010
As Bondo, I am super compromising
for you, and if he gets
1099
01:25:31.050 --> 01:25:34.329
really, really hot, he can
turn it down to seventy four just until
1100
01:25:34.329 --> 01:25:36.840
it cools down a little bit and
then we turn it back up. But
1101
01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:41.640
so it makes it easy to keep
you a little north where it snows,
1102
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:46.359
yes, which is I hate it. I'm always cold. So it makes
1103
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:54.670
it easy to keep the reptiles enclosures
at temperature. But it also we did
1104
01:25:54.789 --> 01:25:58.789
have to, you know, reduce
the humidity in the house because it was
1105
01:25:59.430 --> 01:26:05.140
uncomfortable and it was destroying things.
So electronics don't really like humidity. Yeah,
1106
01:26:05.460 --> 01:26:09.579
so now we have it at a
cozy like thirty percent ish. Oh,
1107
01:26:09.699 --> 01:26:12.500
that's it, I assumed. I
don't want why? I just figured
1108
01:26:12.579 --> 01:26:16.739
lizards need that. She do humid
they do for sure, in general,
1109
01:26:16.939 --> 01:26:25.729
like some things like bearded dragons don't, but the majority of my reptiles spans
1110
01:26:25.770 --> 01:26:30.130
somewhere along. Yes, I need
humidity. GEK basically requires that she be
1111
01:26:30.250 --> 01:26:35.760
rained on. I do that every
day and then, well, just like
1112
01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:40.319
a spray bottle, I here you
go. Yeah, yeah, then the
1113
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:46.869
berries and Raffellos, who require like
sixty to seventy percent humidity, I built
1114
01:26:47.310 --> 01:26:51.789
missing systems for them. Oh,
oh, so they're just on a timer
1115
01:26:51.909 --> 01:26:58.149
and they just missed every like two
hours or whatever. Yeah, I guess
1116
01:26:58.149 --> 01:27:01.380
that makes sense. They have a
look their own little system. You don't
1117
01:27:01.380 --> 01:27:06.859
have to leave manually control it.
HMM, and I do still spend this
1118
01:27:06.899 --> 01:27:11.500
pretty significant amount of time every day, just it's in around with their enclosures
1119
01:27:11.539 --> 01:27:15.770
and stuff, but that definitely makes
it easier. Their lights are all on
1120
01:27:15.810 --> 01:27:19.890
timers, their missrs are on timers. Do they sleep pretty well, I
1121
01:27:20.409 --> 01:27:24.930
don't know anything about reptile keeping,
but like when you sleep, are they
1122
01:27:25.170 --> 01:27:28.170
just out and you're like all right, I can go to bed without worrying
1123
01:27:28.210 --> 01:27:31.600
about them? Berries are out,
Sam and Casper, the two snakes are
1124
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:36.600
out, and get is out,
because they're all nocturnal. Wordy and raffellows
1125
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:42.920
are asleep because they're diurnal, which
means they're out during the day. Technically,
1126
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.350
if there's your linguist for you,
if you'd like to learn a new
1127
01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:50.310
word, creep huscular is what the
berries are. That means they're active at
1128
01:27:50.350 --> 01:27:57.909
dawn and dusk. Oh Hmm,
I've never heard that term before. Yeah,
1129
01:27:57.989 --> 01:28:02.380
most people don't, unless unless you
happen to be into creep muscular lizards
1130
01:28:03.979 --> 01:28:10.460
as killer it gets. Sounds fancy. MMM A. I pinkied up a
1131
01:28:10.500 --> 01:28:17.689
little bit while saying it. I'm
curious your take on this. I've I've
1132
01:28:17.770 --> 01:28:20.609
had this a bit as a recurring
question because we've seen a lot of different
1133
01:28:20.689 --> 01:28:26.689
interaction, but especially you did the
The des React to your speed run?
1134
01:28:27.090 --> 01:28:31.199
What do you think is a good
relationship between speed runners and developers? I
1135
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:35.119
think cannot, for the life of
me, remember what community it was,
1136
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:44.829
and I wish that I could.
One Community recently pointed out piece of tech
1137
01:28:45.069 --> 01:28:48.590
that they were concerned was going to
get removed during a patch. The Dev's
1138
01:28:48.590 --> 01:28:56.180
kept it because it wasn't affecting casual
players. That makes me really happy.
1139
01:28:56.220 --> 01:29:02.659
MMM, because casual players aren't going
to be impacted by it. Who Cares,
1140
01:29:04.300 --> 01:29:11.689
you know, like if you have
a problem with the game crashing when
1141
01:29:11.729 --> 01:29:15.729
a player is out of bounds,
don't patch the fact that the game crashes
1142
01:29:17.449 --> 01:29:20.090
because player, casual players, are
not going to be out of bounds,
1143
01:29:21.409 --> 01:29:25.760
you would think, by nature,
and if they can get out of bounds
1144
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.960
really easy, that's a problem.
Sure, like fix that. Casual players
1145
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:38.039
come first, but think that devs
who listen to what would make speed runners
1146
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:44.869
happy. It's good and should be
encouraged, because speed runners, just like
1147
01:29:46.470 --> 01:29:50.909
we, need have subsets of people
that play your game right, and it's
1148
01:29:50.949 --> 01:29:55.220
not just edule people who play your
game for the first time that you need
1149
01:29:55.260 --> 01:30:00.699
to think about. Have speed runners. You have people with disabilities who need
1150
01:30:00.779 --> 01:30:04.819
accessibility settings in the menu. Like
there's a bunch of categories of people that
1151
01:30:05.180 --> 01:30:11.210
ideally and look out for. Some
of them are more important than others.
1152
01:30:12.050 --> 01:30:15.689
You know, you should fix accessibility
settings before you worry about what you're doing
1153
01:30:15.810 --> 01:30:23.119
for speed runners. But you know, yeah, for sure, I've seen
1154
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:28.239
a lot of good and bad examples, sadly, within even my kind a
1155
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:33.119
year of doing this, and so
I I'm personally in favor of when they
1156
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:38.989
have a good like an actual vocal
relationship which the like in Ratchett and clank
1157
01:30:39.069 --> 01:30:42.949
INSOMNIAC has been great with them.
But then, like in crash, for
1158
01:30:43.069 --> 01:30:45.710
example, toys for Bob, they
also did one of those Dev reacts and
1159
01:30:45.789 --> 01:30:49.140
then they put invisible walls all over
the place to try and make some people
1160
01:30:49.140 --> 01:30:54.699
couldn't do it. Like okay,
I thought that was super bad take.
1161
01:30:54.899 --> 01:30:57.939
So I do not give us for
Bob a lot of love. Yeah,
1162
01:30:57.979 --> 01:31:02.060
I would agree that that. You
don't ever really want to feel like the
1163
01:31:02.260 --> 01:31:08.489
Dev's are somebody that you have to
not tell things to. Yeah, right.
1164
01:31:09.770 --> 01:31:15.329
So, yeah, in the pathless
obviously they were super stoked to hear
1165
01:31:15.449 --> 01:31:19.039
about about things that we could do
and they were really excited about it and
1166
01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:23.239
they knew that some things were going
to be used speed runs. You know,
1167
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:28.880
they told me so the the IG
and reacts thing. We're like,
1168
01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:30.319
well, we knew that this was
going to be a problem, but it
1169
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:35.029
was too much also to fix it
that. We were like it's okay if
1170
01:31:35.069 --> 01:31:41.310
people do this. That wasn't gamebreaking
or anything. So that's how we get
1171
01:31:41.310 --> 01:31:45.670
the bird to not be on fire
by every setting. That's kind of awesome
1172
01:31:47.380 --> 01:31:53.060
and that was a so yours was
unique and that you actually were watching it
1173
01:31:53.180 --> 01:31:57.180
through with them. Do you still
like kind of communicate with those devs at
1174
01:31:57.220 --> 01:32:01.850
all? They're very nice. There's
two discord servers for a giant squid.
1175
01:32:01.970 --> 01:32:06.489
There's the one like specifically focused on
speed runs then there's just the general giant
1176
01:32:06.489 --> 01:32:13.250
squid discord and they're always super communicative
with anybody who wants to talk to them.
1177
01:32:13.689 --> 01:32:20.279
As Amma, who runs Eco,
primarily shadowed the classes, they literally
1178
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:25.680
changed things in the game because Asama
was like, Hey, I found this
1179
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:29.119
thing. Is this what you intended
and they were like no, thanks.
1180
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:35.229
You know, they don't mind just
receiving communication from random people and just chatting
1181
01:32:35.270 --> 01:32:42.550
with them. You know, I
guess to put a nice bow on things,
1182
01:32:44.699 --> 01:32:47.579
did you? I mean because you
have your the background you're talking about,
1183
01:32:48.100 --> 01:32:51.699
you wind up, I guess,
finding a lot of just kind of
1184
01:32:51.779 --> 01:32:58.689
homies in the general life of speed
run community from going through college and stuff
1185
01:32:58.689 --> 01:33:03.250
like that meant as is a while
back. But sure well, colledge and
1186
01:33:03.329 --> 01:33:09.329
I did go to Grad school as
well, but both of those places I
1187
01:33:09.449 --> 01:33:14.800
still tended to kind of be kind
of a loner in. In that case
1188
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:18.159
it was because I had so many
majors and things to do and I was
1189
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:23.279
working and everything. I didn't have
time for a lot of community stuff.
1190
01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:28.390
But the majority of the speed running
friends that I've made have been as a
1191
01:33:28.470 --> 01:33:32.430
result of streaming. Is a positive
benefit that I when I started, I
1192
01:33:32.510 --> 01:33:38.510
didn't really anticipate ever happening. You
know, I think a lot of streamers
1193
01:33:38.590 --> 01:33:44.380
probably are like, why would anybody
watch me? Then suddenly you make friends
1194
01:33:44.460 --> 01:33:50.020
and you make friends with their friends
and you raid people and you build this
1195
01:33:50.100 --> 01:33:56.050
nice little network of people. I
am still in contact. I'm one of
1196
01:33:56.090 --> 01:34:03.050
the like Ho managers of a gaming
con in Indiana that is a direct result
1197
01:34:03.050 --> 01:34:10.319
of friends from college. So do
like your real life mutual's kind of know
1198
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:14.680
about your online presence? Oh Yeah, for sure. They're free to hang
1199
01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:17.239
out whenever they would like. Sometimes
they do. I always recognize them in
1200
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:25.470
chat. Struggle to not say what
their names are. That that community aspect
1201
01:34:25.750 --> 01:34:29.550
definitely something that kind of kept me
going and made me really fall in love
1202
01:34:29.590 --> 01:34:34.550
with the whole which ecosystem. Almost
crazy, and I don't care to admit
1203
01:34:34.590 --> 01:34:40.739
how much time I spend on twitch
almost every day because of it. Wish
1204
01:34:40.859 --> 01:34:43.699
that I had more time to actually
like watch the people who watch me.
1205
01:34:43.779 --> 01:34:45.500
I feel bad because I don't.
I don't have the time to. Like
1206
01:34:46.819 --> 01:34:51.060
I barely EEK out the time to
stream, yeah, for sure, let
1207
01:34:51.180 --> 01:34:55.850
alone watch people. But I try
to hop into people streams whenever I can
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because it makes me feel happy when
they're with me. So I'd like to
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think that they feel happy when I'm
with them too. I think it's pretty
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01:35:02.689 --> 01:35:11.439
understandable. A lot demographic of twitches, you know, not actively employed or
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01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:15.479
doing stuff full time. So you
definitely it's understandable having a life. I'm
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in a lucky transitional period right now
where I just got off of finishing working
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01:35:20.630 --> 01:35:25.069
for a long time, so take
a little break and I'm about to school
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01:35:25.149 --> 01:35:28.829
full time, so we'll see how
that changes my schedule. But and I
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01:35:28.949 --> 01:35:31.630
think just like simple things like in
my discord we have a channel called the
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01:35:31.750 --> 01:35:41.500
mortal realm where just spamming more EMOs. That's you and I love the services.
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Stuff like that. On the surface
is just goofy, right, but
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01:35:45.939 --> 01:35:49.409
in reality it's a very easy way
for people in my community to be like,
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01:35:49.569 --> 01:35:55.569
I'm here, even though they don't
have the time. It's just as
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simple as popping in and posting like
a mortpog or something. And it's like
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I'm here, I'm still engaging,
I'm happy to be here. Serves another
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01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:13.319
purpose besides just being yeah, more
than just a bathtub of memes. We
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01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:16.079
actually in this is just it was
kind of dumb, but I think it's
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01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:21.270
nice when every discord has like that
thing. There were just a bunch of
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01:36:21.270 --> 01:36:27.069
people who are afk in my vc, those like I'll damn kids, get
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01:36:27.069 --> 01:36:30.550
off my lawn kind of thing,
and so we just created the lawn where
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01:36:30.630 --> 01:36:34.380
by default you are muted, and
it was just hang out muted. You
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01:36:34.420 --> 01:36:38.340
can type in the the VC like
the actual text portion, but it's mostly
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01:36:38.420 --> 01:36:43.460
just people putting people blankets and stuff
like that. Right. It's kind of
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01:36:43.500 --> 01:36:46.329
become a comfy thing, right.
It's just you're there with other people,
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01:36:47.409 --> 01:36:51.010
just like you know, we should
normalize sitting in the same room with somebody
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01:36:51.090 --> 01:36:55.409
and not doing anything them. I
love that, actually. You know,
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01:36:56.609 --> 01:36:58.930
so that's literally just what it is. You come into the mortal realm,
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01:36:59.050 --> 01:37:01.279
you're here with all these other people
who just have armfuls of more emotes.
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Just throw them not to talk.
As a matter of fact, you don't
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01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:10.520
talk in mortal realm. We don't
think. No, nobody allow those text.
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01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:18.109
It's just emodes, but you're there
and you're with everybody else and just
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01:37:18.149 --> 01:37:23.670
kind of on that realm of community. How is the communities for the Games
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01:37:23.710 --> 01:37:27.710
that you run? Like is last
Guardian, I imagine, early tight,
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01:37:28.510 --> 01:37:33.140
everybody kind of there for each other. Yeah, especially with last Guardian,
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01:37:33.220 --> 01:37:36.220
with it being so rng heavy.
You know, we are all very much
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01:37:38.260 --> 01:37:45.689
like super hype whenever anybody does almost
anything. You know, we're very close
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01:37:46.369 --> 01:37:51.090
with each other. It's not too
big as you might expect, but the
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01:37:51.130 --> 01:37:57.369
last guardian community isn't necessarily separate from
the team Eco community, which includes ECO
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and shadow, the classes. So
it's nice in that sense. We're all
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01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:08.840
together. And Yeah, you'll you'll
find people who never run last Guardian but
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01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:12.119
who runs shadow, who you get
a Peb and last guardian and they're like,
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01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.270
Oh, this is amazing, you
know. So they're all there very
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01:38:15.550 --> 01:38:19.310
similar, but they're not at all
similar. At the same time, anybody
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who runs a game by Fumi to
Aueta is going to be happy when you
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01:38:24.710 --> 01:38:29.739
peeb in a game made by Fumi
to Aueta, like there's just something about
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01:38:29.819 --> 01:38:34.340
his games that it's like you deserve
this PV. Great job. Yeah,
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01:38:39.460 --> 01:38:43.729
and I am getting close to finishing
up here. You have any other notable
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01:38:43.770 --> 01:38:49.409
hobbies that people might not know about? Notable hobbies like sailors, things you're
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01:38:49.449 --> 01:38:55.720
passionate about? Yeah, I like
I like sailing. Really boats. What?
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Yeah, I guess a lot of
people don't know that about me.
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When I was about school, I
do not have a boat. When I
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say boat, I mean like pirates
of the Caribbean type boat. Oh Nice,
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tall ships is what they're called.
When I was in high school I
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would spend my summers living on a
tall ship leaving what long is if you
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01:39:17.909 --> 01:39:25.460
work, it's free. Oh,
so I worked a lot on boats and
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I love boats. Boats are a
safe and comfy place for me. Even
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though it's the majority of people.
You go on a tall ship and actually
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01:39:32.619 --> 01:39:39.409
it's kind of really cramped and you
sleep in hammocks and one toilet for fifty
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people and, yeah, I'll be
honest, that doesn't sound wonderful to me.
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That found, yeah, actually kind
of bad. Yeah, it's a
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thing for certain people, but for
me it's just it's real cozy and I
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love it. My favorite place was
up your I go into boats right,
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so, the the horizontal things that
the sales attached to are called yards,
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01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:08.390
standing up on the yards all the
boat is sailing. It's just like my
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favorite place to be and I really, really miss that. It's just there's
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no other feeling like it than just
standing up a yard while the boat is
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01:40:16.789 --> 01:40:19.670
rocking back and forth and just being
like the wind in your face, in
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the smell, and there's there's nothing
else, because you're just in the middle
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of the water. It's just lovely. It's gotta be required, right,
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01:40:27.300 --> 01:40:30.300
like you have to sing shanties while
you're up there. Oh yeah, we
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would sing shanties. We had one, one person on the boat who had
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I don't know what they're called.
They're like the they're like accordions but tiny,
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so they're not full size cordions.
Basically the like fit in the palm
1280
01:40:43.649 --> 01:40:46.369
of your hand, beach hand.
She had one of those and she had
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01:40:46.449 --> 01:40:50.680
a fiddle. That was like more
than enough to get all sorts of shanties
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01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:57.079
going. How do you find yourself
in this situation? I don't think I
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01:40:57.159 --> 01:41:00.439
even knew that they still make boats
like this. Well, usually they don't
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01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:03.199
make boats like this anymore. The
boat that I was on is called the
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flagship Niagara. It was it makes
home port in Bike Erie, which was
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01:41:11.550 --> 01:41:15.149
close enough to where I grew up
that I could just go there. And
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literally, this is how it happened. I read a book called the True
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01:41:19.180 --> 01:41:25.779
Confessions of Charlotte Doyle about a girl
who had to learn how to live on
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01:41:25.899 --> 01:41:29.380
a boat in like the eighteen hundreds
or something. I was like this sounds
1290
01:41:29.420 --> 01:41:32.369
really cool. I like boats,
so that I went to the flagship Niagara
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01:41:32.569 --> 01:41:36.250
and I Wesley Harrison was the captain
at the time and I was like,
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01:41:36.329 --> 01:41:40.090
Captain West Hey, I like your
boat. Can I sail on it?
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01:41:40.890 --> 01:41:45.329
It was like yeah, sure,
and that was just that was how it
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01:41:45.449 --> 01:41:53.039
widened and then I was then I
was on the boat. So I take
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01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:57.000
it you don't get seasickness, then
no, I don't really get seasick you
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01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:02.310
can avoid seasickness by looking at something
fixed, usually the horizon. So it's
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01:42:03.029 --> 01:42:09.149
some's your ill seasickness. Would say
yeah, yeah, and usually after a
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01:42:09.229 --> 01:42:12.789
day or two you get your sea
legs. You know, yeah, and
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01:42:12.989 --> 01:42:15.590
you don't, you don't feel it
anymore. That's what I say. I'm
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01:42:15.590 --> 01:42:19.340
not sure I believe it, but
let's she's sleep in hammocks which prevent you
1301
01:42:19.380 --> 01:42:23.819
from rocking back and forth, because
the hammock right and will stay in place
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01:42:25.020 --> 01:42:30.609
for the whole thing. So everything
moves around it right. It makes it,
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01:42:30.890 --> 01:42:35.649
it makes it better. But Niagara
has bunch of Karenades. We would
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01:42:35.689 --> 01:42:43.250
sometimes shoot them and that was fun. What is that? Arnades? They're
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01:42:43.810 --> 01:42:48.439
kind of like cannons. So we
didn't shoot cannonballs. In misconception, we
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01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:54.119
would not shoot cannonballs. Those could
hurt somebody, because we would still it
1307
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:57.920
would, but we would still shoot
them with the appropriate amount of gunpowder.
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01:42:58.750 --> 01:43:02.710
Shoot a cannon ball. And the
carronades were meant to shoot thirty two pound
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01:43:02.789 --> 01:43:09.189
cannonballs. They were the big head
and boys, and then we had two
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01:43:09.270 --> 01:43:15.060
long guns that would shoot tiny little
balls instead. So your protection is what
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01:43:15.140 --> 01:43:19.779
I'm imagining, because otherwise that all
the tonight is would be real ear protection
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01:43:19.979 --> 01:43:25.420
and lots and lots of training.
Because straight up, if you stand behind
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01:43:25.460 --> 01:43:28.930
one of those things and it when
it shoots, it goes backwards, right.
1314
01:43:29.170 --> 01:43:31.649
Oh, that's got to be so
yeah, you stand behind one of
1315
01:43:31.729 --> 01:43:36.369
those and it hits you, you're
dead, like that's just that. You're
1316
01:43:36.409 --> 01:43:41.439
dead. Wonderful. Hits You with
such force that you are probably horrific.
1317
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:45.640
Lily injured, and so lots and
lots of training make sure that we all
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01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:49.319
knew what was up with those,
not only certain people. Yeah, so
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01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:54.279
certain people were were the only ones
who were on the gun crew. They
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01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:59.989
couldn't train everybody. In what context
did everybody need to be Tracy actually to
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01:44:00.470 --> 01:44:01.789
be on the gun? Well,
all right, I hear it once.
1322
01:44:01.869 --> 01:44:08.710
I'm good. Yeah, it made
an impressive column of smoke over the water,
1323
01:44:08.869 --> 01:44:11.220
though, so we would sometimes do
it when we were coming into a
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01:44:11.300 --> 01:44:16.579
city. I know you say you
don't have too much free time, but
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are there any games that you have
no real desire to run but you enjoy
1326
01:44:20.699 --> 01:44:28.930
watching all night? Oh Yeah,
yeah, I don't think I will ever
1327
01:44:28.970 --> 01:44:32.369
pick up another all night to speed
run again, but I adore watching people
1328
01:44:32.489 --> 01:44:40.199
do it. I'm trying to think
of what I usually watch people do,
1329
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.359
like shadow the classes. Again,
I'M gonna have to learn it, but
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it's not going to be good.
HMM. So it's real fun to watch
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01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:55.550
people do that. Mario is always
really appealing. I would never, would
1332
01:44:55.550 --> 01:44:59.989
never forge my way into that.
Yeah, it's really interesting to watch,
1333
01:45:00.550 --> 01:45:05.470
mostly just like games where I'm like, that was fun, but I'm good.
1334
01:45:05.510 --> 01:45:11.779
Yeah, I can know that for
sure, things like had he's like
1335
01:45:11.939 --> 01:45:17.020
really fun to watch. To think
of like everything to play. Fire emblem
1336
01:45:17.260 --> 01:45:23.250
is fun to watch. Just finished
playing through path of radiance and radiant down
1337
01:45:23.289 --> 01:45:27.409
again and I'm good on fire album. I don't need to come back to
1338
01:45:27.489 --> 01:45:32.130
fire them for a while. Because, as for Husbando being himself, everything
1339
01:45:32.170 --> 01:45:36.720
is on the hardest possible difficulty.
Yeah, that's the real way to play.
1340
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:42.000
You got to respect mechanics. That
way. Beat both of those games
1341
01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:45.520
on maniac difficulty. It it's like, are you satisfied, Bro because we
1342
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:48.439
spent like a hundred and twenty hours
doing this. Yeah, actually, for
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01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:51.550
prior amblem, I would say I
would change my mind for that. I'm
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01:45:51.590 --> 01:45:55.229
like a halo. I can understand. You can just kind of like stand
1345
01:45:55.270 --> 01:45:59.710
back, but just getting like instacrited
and stuff like that. Yeah, I
1346
01:45:59.869 --> 01:46:04.819
all right. Well, this sucks
replay. Yeah, and for good for
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01:46:04.939 --> 01:46:11.340
ill, when you play on the
highest difficulty based in radiant dawn, can't
1348
01:46:11.380 --> 01:46:15.100
save in the middle of a battle. Yeah, so it's like well,
1349
01:46:15.380 --> 01:46:17.140
I guess I'm going to be here
for another forty five minutes getting to that
1350
01:46:17.220 --> 01:46:26.130
point again. Oh awful, we
did it. CONGRATS. Now your sense
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01:46:26.170 --> 01:46:30.369
of pride and accomplishment. That's her
right. Was it worth it? The
1352
01:46:30.529 --> 01:46:41.079
Baby? Yeah, fun. So. And are there any maybe underrated streamers
1353
01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:45.479
or runners that you'd like to kind
of give some attention to? Geez,
1354
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:48.949
there's so many. They are the
people that I read read Weird Romance a
1355
01:46:49.069 --> 01:46:56.789
lot. He's he, they she
gender fluid. Are Lovely, Blue Bird.
1356
01:46:57.310 --> 01:47:02.180
The streams a whole bunch of fun
games and this guy are sick.
1357
01:47:02.460 --> 01:47:08.939
Although this guy is sick is having
a baby in the next couple days.
1358
01:47:09.859 --> 01:47:15.220
So I think they will probably not
be streaming for a while. But let
1359
01:47:15.260 --> 01:47:18.409
me think. You see, you're
streaming like right now. Pick out some
1360
01:47:18.569 --> 01:47:29.090
people. That's like nobody that I
know said Flix, thirteen, raising,
1361
01:47:29.170 --> 01:47:32.840
monkey ball, runner, torpedo.
You probably know torpedo. If you know
1362
01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:40.720
Ratchett and clank. Maybe I'm pretty
rookie into it. So like Bill Wingo
1363
01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:45.550
and so yeah, sure, Dowingos
here around all the time. Um,
1364
01:47:46.510 --> 01:47:51.989
there's gotta be more. There's got
to be more. I kilt, of
1365
01:47:53.109 --> 01:47:56.670
course, Azama. We were talking
about earlier. Asama runs shadow the Colossus,
1366
01:47:57.390 --> 01:48:01.100
a conception, Sr runs bug snacks. You know, I've seen his
1367
01:48:01.180 --> 01:48:04.659
name around a lot. I think
it's been doing crazy marathons with bug snacks
1368
01:48:04.699 --> 01:48:11.579
as well. Deception is like the
bug snacks marathon. Or the game looks
1369
01:48:11.979 --> 01:48:15.489
so goofy but so great. I
don't know, I need to as really
1370
01:48:15.529 --> 01:48:18.569
goofy. Yeah, I picked it
up and played like the first little bit
1371
01:48:18.609 --> 01:48:27.880
on stream and it was it is
definitely some goof going on, but this
1372
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.880
about wraps it up for me.
That's all I have for you. Thank
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01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:35.319
you've been a wonderful guest. Where
can people find you? You can find
1374
01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:42.149
me everywhere. I am ubiquitous.
That's kind of a lie. You can
1375
01:48:42.189 --> 01:48:47.390
find me on twitter, Youtube,
mustle even read it twitch, unto places
1376
01:48:47.470 --> 01:48:53.029
as Sable Dragon Rook in all of
those locations. For the places where I'm
1377
01:48:53.029 --> 01:49:00.140
not Sable Dragon Rook, you don't
get to know those so well. Again,
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01:49:00.420 --> 01:49:02.539
thank you so much thanks for having
me.
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Welcome to the thirteen episode of after
the split and for those you that don't
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already know, this the deep dive
interview show going to the lives of speed
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runners. Thank you to everyone who
reached out recently. I'll be get into
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contact with the law of you for
future episodes, so just wait out for
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that. As always, you can
check this out on Youtube, spotify,
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itunes or live first on my twitch
channel. Just want to give a quick
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thank you to everyone who subscribed on
Youtube. Actually, we just got our
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Gaffy Taffy. Anyway, enjoy the episode.
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Welcome Sable Dragon Rook, who's the
legendary runner, the last Guardian and
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the Console Spiro reignited trilogy. I
know I kind of said I was going
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to step away from spiral a little
bit, but this is a little bit
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different. So you can also be
found playing games such as the pathless I
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go and a few others, but
instead of me butchering it, I would
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you like to introduce yourself? For
sure. Thanks for having me, she
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said. I'm stable Dragon Rook.
You can call me sable, and yeah,
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I'm a variety speed runner, so
I do a ton of games.
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Sometimes you know you won't see one
for a month or two and then it'll
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just resurface because that's what I feel
like at the time. So that might
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be like inside. Are Really Love
Artsi Games, so I tend to gravitate
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toward those and, as per the
last Guardian and pathless and ego, I
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suppose I'm kind of a sucker for
games that have an AI companion. That's
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that's primarily what you'll you'll see me
play, which, seeing that, seems
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like a bit of a pain in
running sometimes, for sure. I definitely
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think it takes a certain kind of
person to enjoy that kind of speed run.
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You know for sure. And congrats, by the way. I actually
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found you through CJ though. CONGRATS
on your double entries in the stat thank
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you. I'm very excited that.
Like announcement of the schedule video, thought
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it was great. Yeah, that's
something I've never seen before and I hope
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more people do stuff like that.
Hmm, what a what are you entering
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into? Speed Daca Thon? So
last Guardian is in, which I'm very
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happy about because it's a great game, but it is three and a half
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hours and it's me guiding a giant
fluffy weasel, bird chicken thing. Yeah,
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I guess I'm going to have a
what is Trico as an animal?
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Yeah, he's a bird. Many
animals. MMM, and so I get
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why it doesn't always get into marathons. So I'm definitely really happy to be
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showing that off. And then inside
that I mentioned earlier, which again don't
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get to show that off too often, I'm inclined to think, because the
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category that I run, all deaths, is absolutele morbid for a lot of
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thought. I like that. HMM. It was very surprised it got into
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I don't remember if it was Midwest
speedfest or NASA, but they got into
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one of them and their charity was
save the kids. Oh, it's literally
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a category about murdering and dying as
much as possible. I was like,
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are you sure about this? You
say anything to him this? Like yeah,
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no, nobody's going to put that
together. It's fine. I did.
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I was like, are you sure
about this, like John Cena Vine,
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and they were like Oh, yeah, no, it's fine. Okay,
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that's so perfect. A little bit
about yourself. So what is kind
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of your name, the origin of
your name? So that's actually a good
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question because I never really gave it
much thought. Maybe it's a cliche story
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of like, Oh, we never
had any friends as a kid or whatever,
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but I was. I was pretty
much a loner when I was a
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kid, and so I had imaginary
friends, and I'm talking like, you
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know, six, seven years old. I had imaginary friends, and this
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makes me seem like a nerd.
We're all just probably why I much as
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possible. Probably why I went into
linguistics. Always been really good with words.
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I was reading like Dragon Lance books
that are like four hundred pages long
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in like second grade. Wow.
So I imaginary friend was a black dragon
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named Rook, which is a word
for like a crow, which is a
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blackbird obviously, and the word sable
can also mean black. So it's just
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black dragon. Rook is my name. Okay, yeah, maybe it's why
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I chose that. I'm not a
linguis. I did not know to rook
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was. Yeah, it's actually I
think it's a raven, that a crow,
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but a big black bird in any
case. It's also like hung onto
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it though. Give you the little
nostalgia. HMM. It's also the term
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for the chess piece, right.
Oh, yeah, I guess now,
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I'm sure, and I'll just get
it out here now. The the big
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celebrities of the Sable Dragon Stream would
have to probably be the lizards. Always.
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How many of them do you have? One is it's like a whole
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zoo over there. Five lizards to
snakes currently, but literally, as you
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were hitting start on this recording,
I was messaging somebody to get more.
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So are you serious? Yeah,
well, okay, because I have two
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prehensile tailed skinks and we're fairly certain
now that both of them are boys,
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which means that some fuck and some
point, unfortunately, they're going to start
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fighting. Oh, just kind of
why they make sure they do that.
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Yeah, so they're going to need
lady friends, and I'm like, Oh
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shucks, they need lady right,
a good woman to calm them down so
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they'll split into their own it's called
a circulous, a community group where each
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boy has one to two girls so
that they don't fight. That's not I
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know that. So who is because
you're married right? Yes, is it
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is your husband okay with getting this
money? Is he just as psyched about
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as you are? He's generally just
as psyched. He's a little bit more
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pragmatic, a little bit more okay, what outlet? Are you going to
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plug that into, because you've taken
all the outlets? Yeah, you know,
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but he told me, and I
I have a screenshot, he said
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you can have as many reptiles as
you can fit on our electric grid.
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Oh, that's awesome. So,
and obviously he gets input on what we
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get. HMM. So he loves
them. He talks to him all day
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and probably a solid ten percent of
our days just creefully staring into their enclosures
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and be like hi, Buddy.
Well, how you do it, buddy?
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Ms Will enjoy it right. Yeah, it is like often people like
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hey, you know, I could
maybe go for a cat or a dog
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or something like that. Is it
just because like your childhood growing up and
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stuff? You're like I like reptiles. Yeah, I've always liked reptiles,
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but I could never have them.
I had a tiny little lizard when I
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was very small because my mom caved
and let me get one. But throughout
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college, throughout, you know,
the first little bit of my adult life,
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I couldn't have them because apartments,
you know, yeah, the struggle.
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Yeah, so I was very happy
to finally move into a house and
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be like hey, I make the
rules. Snake dime. Do you have
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any like mutuals and stuff that are
afraid of them? Or typically is it
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like Oh, everybody just knows.
Yeah, I the maid of honor at
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my wedding is terrified anything that has
scales. Like, I guess she didn't
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walk more down the aisle. She
did not, but I offered to put
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more on her lap. She's like, I'm good, but you know,
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being here and just seeing them and
seeing me just walk around holding more like
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an ice cream car made her feel
better and I would like to think that
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in some small way my streams do
that too, like that's that's like five
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percent of why I stream with the
reptiles. But definitely it has like that
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window shopping appeals, like Oh wow, this is different, this is unique.
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I love to see it. Yeah, like people look at more on
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Cam and they're like, okay,
I'll give him a blueberry, and then
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eats a blueberry and suddenly they're like, Oh, this is just a cute
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little animal that I can give treats
to instead of Oh, this is a
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horrifying, slimy thing that you don't
like. You know, it's made some
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people feel better. I definitely want
to say thank you for having the channel
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point thing, especially for so cheap, like it's kind of been a tradition
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for me, or I don't know
the right word, for a scheduled thing,
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but I'll like wake up, I
have my coffee and multitask in the
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just being able to give a little
blueberry to mort or something. This is
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like, Oh my God, yeah, this is incredible. Head. I
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had to make them a little more
expensive because he's getting kind of Chunky.
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That's what I figure, like I
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I don't understand, like we would
think this lizard be five hundred pounds
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for only three hundred channel points either. Then the day. I love the
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all their names, by the way, just kind of like they all have
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no culture references. Yeah, we
try to be clever in their names,
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except for Bagel. Her name doesn't
make sense. But more it's name is
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it more? It's artorious, but
nobody knows that anymore. It knew that
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at like the inception of my channel, when I still called him like ardy.
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How did it kind of evolve into
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he does. Okay, our Torius
stark souls right, yeah, he's super
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cool and when we got more as
a baby. We thought that he had
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a problem with one of his arms
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it correctly, and I was like, Oh, you know, his tongues
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the same color as oartorious is cloak. He's got kind of a weird arm,
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perfect artorious, and he was also
very timid and I was like I
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don't want them to be tim of
it. I wanted to be brave like
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ourtorious. HMM. Now you look
at him and he is braver and his
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arms fine. You look at him
and you're like you're just not notorious Fuddy,
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you're just a big old chunk.
And so it didn't look great.
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And so it went from Artorius to
already Marty, to Morty to more Marty.
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That's that's where the big jump is. Well, part of it comes
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from just how my husband and I
talked to each other and we're basically unintelligible
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to anyone else. That's so funny, like, especially since you're a linguist
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and you kind of have to do
a bunch of editing, you think like
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Oh, very prim and proper English, and then to just kind of evolve.
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Its fascinating because it's can talk to
my husband, you know, hmm.
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And you can be like hey,
you want to go to when garblers?
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I totally understand what that's. Yeah, it's want to go to Wendy's
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for a hamburger. Ah, is
what that is. There are rules.
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It sounds like complete nonsense, but
linguistically like there are rules still, and
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that's how we understand each other,
because we follow unspoken rules. As a
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linguist, that just makes me look
super happy. Hey, if it works
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for you, I guess, then
why not? HMM. See, you're
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the kind of person because always,
if you're like, oh, how do
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you make up a word, you
someone that's like yeah, I could do
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that, do that. Has Been
is so great at that. He speaks
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entirely and made up words and I
get it right about eighty five percent of
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the time. It's a good percentage. I actually just finished playing dark souls
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like two days ago, and I'm
thankful that I chose to do it on
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stream instead of just private. Is, like I wouldn't have got any of
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the lore stuff so to hear,
like about our torious and stuff like that,
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and then scith. Oh my God, everybody lost their minds when sith
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happened. I'm so thankful that dark
souls was like, it's weird to say,
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but like my gateway to my husband. Oh really, I had never
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played dark souls before I met him. Hmm, that was what we did
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together. We well, okay,
the very first thing we did together in
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video games was I beat the final
boss of Drake and guard for him because
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he couldn't, but an he wanted
to compleat save file. Hey, that's
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a hard boss. And then we
started playing dark souls. We started with
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dark souls three, which wasn't,
I guess, the right choice, but
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he had played all of them.
I had, and so we sat down
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and we played them together and just
doing all of that hard stuff, because
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obviously dark souls is hard. Thing. That together helped us learn about each
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other. When we were first,
you know, dating. There was a
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great bonding experience and I have picture
of our torious and stiff that I'm looking
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at right now of my TV.
I made him a painting of the four
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nights of Gwyn and at our wedding, our unity ceremony was lighting a bonfire.
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Really. Yeah, Oh my God, that would be so cool,
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because your unity ceremony is supposed to
be the thing where you like say that
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you're working together right, M and
a bonfire is a place of safety where
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monsters can't enter, and every time
you mess up, come back to it
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and start over. That's actually that
is really beautiful, right. I was
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very happy and we still have the
bonfire sword that I've been meaning to hang
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up on the wall. You get
like a like heavy duty, a real
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sword. I wish it's too expensive
to get like a full metal one.
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kind of what I figured, but
you never know. Weddings can kind of
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be outrageous sometimes. Yeah, maybe
for like our twenty year anniversary or something,
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guys, we could upgrade to the
fully metal one. Thing about now,
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I guess. Yeah, dark soils
about as good as it gets.
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On that cooperation, you're going to
learn a lot, kind of like a
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house project or something. Yeah,
Yep, like if we communicate, you
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can build Ikea furniture together. They
say, I did love and I'd always
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forget about it because of the memory
of a goldfish. Is something that you.
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You tweeted that like you'd bought the
new Pokemon snap and hit it in
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your house, and so every like
couple weeks I would be an update,
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like hey, my husband still hasn't
noticed this poster. Hmm, let me
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like paint a picture here. We
play magic the gathering a lot. We
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have a huge kitchen table specifically to
play magic the gathering and other like Arkham
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horror and big, big games that
take up a lot of space, so
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we're out there all the time.
Immediately next to that table is the mantel
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where that poster was. So it's
not like it was in some abandoned part
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of the house where he was never
going to see it. MMM. He
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was sitting with an arms reach of
it for what did I say? Eighty
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three days? That's not something like
that. And when he walked over finally
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to see it, because that day
that he saw it I was going to
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put a full piece of paper,
just said Dude, for him to like
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to just draws attention. But when
he finally saw it I had put giant
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yellow or orange arrows pointing to the
poster and when he walked over, he
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wasn't like what's this poster? He
was like I heard their arrows over here.
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It's like, dude, I'm no
detective, but that seems like a
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clue. But he finally found it. Now have you guys played it?
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Since then? Yes, we have
played it. I would say the pictures
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that he has taken are like one
percent things we actually need and ninety nine
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percent be Douf because but deuce the
best. I who snap? I bought
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it like first day, super nostalgic
because I just I played the crap out
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of the original game back in the
day. I don't know. Some Ned
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me just didn't quite like it as
much. I'm like, is this boomer
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brain? I don't know. See, he liked it and he was excited
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that it was longer than what he
remembered the original being. MMM, I
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had never played the original. So
so really, this one was great.
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You know, I like this one
a lot. MMM. Still need to
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go back and finish it. Haven't
picked it up again yet. Maybe that's
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why I just got to actually sit
down. Yeah, and it's hard to
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tell what actually like. Finishing it
is right. Oh yeah, true,
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it's different for different people, I
imagine, because we haven't finished either.
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Maybe there's a specific ending, but
I'm imagining you can make it through without
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getting like diamond on all of the
pictures. Oh yeah, I'd be all
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right with that. That seems like
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get all of the areas, I
think would I good to go. Hmm,
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what games are you currently kind of
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like you said, I've seen you
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categories. I'm always keeping an eye
out on more artcy games that are coming
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out and I work as an editor
on some games, so obviously I'm keeping
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an eye on those two. Oh
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There was a game announced, I
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can't remember, called the Gecko.
Got It. It's just it's sorry,
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screams right up your alley. Right. It's just a really cute lizard just
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running around and doing platforming and I'm
like this is made for me. So
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can you know? He's a get
go he can climb on walls and do
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like upside down stuff and seems really
fun. You know. It's like the
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smaller games. Like there's also this
one where you like a cat in the
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city or something. Yeah, I
can't remember what it's called. I can't.
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That was like the game that stood
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like, why is this what I'm
interested in the most? HMM, but
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just look sucker for things like that. MMM, definitely a confession. I
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had never played the last guardian and
I just kind of think because because of
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CJ's podcast, actually by wound up
finding like your channel and everything, and
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now I've seen that whole game probably
at least ten times now. I like,
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this looks really comfy, but I
don't know if I'd ever want to
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speed run it. Yeah, Last
Guardian is like the pinnacle of you need
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to be a certain kind of person
in order to enjoy this kind of speed
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run. Is Like pathless. Yeah, you have an a companion, but
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he's programmed to basically just do what
you say. Jorda a ECO Andin once
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you kind of get over how she
works, she's relatively easy to understand.
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DRAKO is an entirely different beast.
No Pun intended. You get punished for
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trying to make him do things sometimes, and it's all on the effort of
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trying to make him be realistic like
an animal. An animal doesn't always listen
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to you. Sometimes an animal ignores
you out of spite, like you know.
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That's what I love about hen.
LIKE AI in some games, just
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seems like he can be terrible,
even if it's like an enemy or like
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the some MPC that's supposed to function
a little bit. That's why I think,
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and on the whole, run is
crazy. Yeah, I think that
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that's why people have such varying opinions
about the last guardian. There's not really
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people who are like this isn't okay
game. It's either this is a masterpiece
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or I hated this. It's what
expectations they had going in. Right,
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if you go in with the expectation
that she goes an animal and he's not
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going to listen to you, and
when he doesn't listen, you're like,
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Huh, that's funny, he's being
a bug. But if you go in
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with like want to finish this game, then you're like he's not listening,
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like I've told him to do this
thirty times, and then you get really
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frustrated. Yeah, those an interesting
it's a matter of perspective. HMM.
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It's not a game for everybody.
I would suggest that everybody at least take
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a look at it and see if
it's something interest you, if you like
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heavily story driven Games. But I
respect that it's not everybody's Cup of tea,
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just like you know, final fantasy
seven isn't everybody's Cup of tea through.
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I'm still trying to rack my brain
together. Sorry, I kind of
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skip right over this. I was
interested. What's a what is editing games
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like for you? What? What
does that consider of Oh yeah, so
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usually I'm the person that make sure
there's no typos, like in the steam
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page for the game. Oh Really? Yeah, and I'll edit like press
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releases and like newsletter blasts for kickstarter
games, things like that, make sure
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that there's no errors. Is it
just like one parent company, or do
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you just kind of freelance around,
like hey, free land, probably need
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me? That's exactly what I do. A usually see a kickstarter game that
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I want to back and I back
it and then I contact them and I'm
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like hey, need this. Oh, that's actually a really good idea.
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It's a lot of fun and the
most fun to me, of course,
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is actually getting to edit like the
in game text right, not just because
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I get to see the entirety of
the game before it's out, but just
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it feels nice to have contributed in
some substantive way to to a game,
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and I do that with board games
to definitely didn't think you'd need, you
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know, your resume for this interview, but so what kind of stuff have
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you worked on in the past?
Out It is out of curiosity. So
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there's currently a game. Take my
and of course no offense to how bird
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here, but take my participation with
a grain of salt. Sometimes how bird
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remembers to send me their press releases
before they put them out, other times
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they don't. Oh, but later
on, when the game actually gets the
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point where we have in game text
and everything, check out nine years of
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shadow by how bird studios. That's
one that I'm working on. And you're
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into board games. Isle of cats
the city of kings to those I have
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worked on. That was a lot
of fun. City of kings is a
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law gloom haven. That's something that
you're into. Aisle cats is much easier,
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very fun. You'd basically just have
a boat. You have cats that
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you have to rescue and they're like
Tetra shaped pieces and you got to fit
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them all together and cats are the
same color and next to each other they're
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like a family and you get more
points. It's really simple, really fun.
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I kind of I like that stuff
every now and then. Very easy.
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Yeah, going on the brain and
for a little bit more background about
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you. So how old are you? Wait, I think. Okay,
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I think. Oh No, I
guess. Yeah, I think after like
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twenty once, like all right,
does it matter anymore? Yeah, hopefully
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not thirty yet. Pretty sure,
and you kind of allude to already.
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But what's your living situation like for
all the reptiles? Do you have a
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house? And you have a house. Yeah, and imagine for any roommates
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stuff like that. It's just me
and my husband and a bunch of reptiles
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and a dog. Oh, you
do have a dog? Yes, his
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name is Bryce. You call him
dog, and yeah, it's it's kind
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of just wall to wall reptiles,
but in a tasteful way, not in
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like a horder kind of way.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I
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could imagine that. It's only two
steps away. But their enclosures look Nice,
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you know, so it's more like
having do you call those things?
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You know, some people make like
little orbs that have moss in him to
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just put on their desk. Oh, yeah, it looks like that,
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but just big all across our walls. Right, of course there's reptiles living
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in them. What's what's your husband
think it like? Of the streaming and
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speed running stuff like? That's the
one that encouraged me to do it.
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Well, he wasn't the one that
encouraged me to speed run. He was
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the one that encouraged me to stream. been speed running since like two thousand
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and twelve or something, but long
time I just never posted anything. I
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wasn't really interested in posting anything.
That would have been back in what speed
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runs live or before that even.
I don't even demo, I don't even
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remember. I was just like,
Oh, somebody, you know, I
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bet somebody can do this flight level
faster and spiral. I'm going to change
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that, you know, and I'm
going to be the fastest one. But
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then I never did anything with it
except for kept videos that I probably don't
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have anymore. It was very fascinating
to me because I like to get a
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little bit of just background before I
do these. I was checking out your
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youtube channel and it goes back.
You had all the way back in another
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history. Yeah, like, wow, so's the like sunny flight, the
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flight levels, kind of your introduction
to speed running? Yes, Yep,
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sunny flight on the original spiral,
which I don't think is on my youtube
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channel but it might be. I
saw a wonderful, very for its time,
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recording a sunny flight on a crt
with maybe a VHS camera. Yep,
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like this is one beautiful this is
actually why we need the Internet to
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preserve moments like this. So,
yeah, that was that was a long
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time ago. And then you probably
had to wade through about like six years
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of acupuncture videos. I got a
little enamored with like this Suction Cup thing.
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What is choirecuping here? Oh Yeah, fire cupping. Yeah, that
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looks so terrible for you, but
like I imagine maybe it's fine. It's
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really good for you. You'll see
a lot of Olympic athletes even they'll have,
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you know, these circular marks on
their back and that's just from fire
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cupping. Really lose a circulation your
muscles. Does it hurt? People think
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it feels good. It feels like
a very strong massage now. So yeah,
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I I contemplated like making those videos
private so that my might youtube could
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just be like a more consistent,
hmm thing. But I've had multiple people
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tell me like it's kind of interesting
and I'm like, okay, fine,
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just whatever, watching if you want. It is I don't know why I
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just was going down the rabbit holeme
like Oh, Whoa, my God,
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look at all this. It's so
diverse. To It's like here's a song.
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Yeah, well, here's so the
explanation things. Yep, the explanation
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for why some videos just seem out
of place. I was making a documentary
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on behalf of the Asian Studies Department. Okay, so they needed just random
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clips of a bunch of Asian culture
stuff, which is why you have Chinese
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people dancing in the countryside and then
just, you know, two videos later,
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water wheel like. That was the
best way for me to are the
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videos for that. Yeah, makes
sense, especially back then. I struggle
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with file storage now, so to
have video back then, and I am
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super excited about this, though.
You said you went to college. Would
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you wind up majoring in a double
majored in Japanese and linguistics? And as
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I know it, you did sometime
actually in Japan. Right, done many
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times in Japan. Yeah, I
guess. Like how long in total for
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you? Two years plus like tiny
little stints in there. I was me
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a little stints being like, you
know, couple weeks to a couple months
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chunk. I'll really so your own
back and forth. Yeah, all that
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sounds kind of hard. I mean
that's not a short flight by any means.
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No, it's like fourteen hours or
something. I would I actually just
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back like last October or something,
but I was living over in Japan for
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like three years and I miss it
every day. Yeah, Oh my God,
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it's something else to not to miss
it. And Has Bando lived there
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longer than I did? He worked
for a law firm over there. How
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did you guys know each other over
there, or did you in the US?
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We met in the US, but
but he used to work a lot
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from there, and then he also
did jet for three years. Think the
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jet jet as in like the Japan
Exchange. Oh Oh yeah, Graham,
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he was a teacher for a little
while. Shows how much I know about
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him. But long it was.
Now you at least know what happened.
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That's yeah, that's important part.
Right. He's lived there longer, but
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I've opped up with the language better. You having to know, like is
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there something that just drives at you
like you know what? This is one
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of the things I really about Japan. MMM, so we live in a
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really fairly Japanese demographic area. Oh
really, she's really nice because we can
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go get Sushi and it's actually really
Nice Sushi. You know, like we
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have access to things like Oudon and
shabby shabu and stuff that you might not
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you didn't have such a high population
of Japanese people. Like actually having Japanese
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culture, ecentric doors. It's really
great. So I missed the Food A
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lot because it's easy to be like
I want Sushi, and then Sushi makes
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you think of like Kaitan Sushi,
the the merry go round Sushi. I'm
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trying to well, I think I
know what state you're in, probably,
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and I don't think I know anywhere
like that. I've got a lot of
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family up there and I can't think
of anywhere. Yeah, like I would
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go as a kid every summer and
stuff like that. Just one like little
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epicenter town. That's okay. Here's
here's definitely. I don't want to dock
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seek any means. No, no, but do some detective work if you
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truly care. One of the main
characters from Detroit become human lives, or
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rather was born, in this Japanese
epicenter city. My stake. So there
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you go. Thank it. That's
been on my bucket list games to play.
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So good. That's probably all I
will say. That's since I don't
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want to spoil you enjoyed it.
That is that I have a downloaded even
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like I love those cinematic base games. They're just so easy like for my
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brain and I wait it. But
would definitely say it's hard to get into
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because it you know you're committing a
lot. For sure. DETROIT, it's
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game that you can tell a lot
of thought was put into everything. The
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animation has a lot of effort into
it and the choices that you make ed
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to immensely branching paths. That are
all very exciting. I think they did
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a good job with it. You
have do you play other games like that,
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like did you play heavy rain?
Be On two souls? That kind
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of have them on the shelf but
have not played them really. What?
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Well, okay, so we have
a big old stack of games. We
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can't play Games fast enough to get
through the stack. True. Actually this
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is something I feel with speed running
to do, do you ever feel bad
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like, okay, I could play
new game or I could play last Guardian
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for the hundred time? Yep,
that's exactly why I speed run, because
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that's an excuse to play the same
game for the three hundred and fifty seven
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time. This is a it may
deep. I don't know why, but
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always I'm like, I should play
this, I should play that, and
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I just find myself like or I
could run hollow night again, run crash
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again, do dude over and over
and over. Lucky, because the way
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that our day is set up,
you know, I work from home,
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running my own business, which means
I set my own hours and, as
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00:34:05.730 --> 00:34:09.079
I was telling you offline, I
usually start working really, really early in
432
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:14.000
the morning because that's just when I
think best. So that usually means that
433
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:20.480
sometime in the span of midday I've
been working for longer than my husband works,
434
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.590
right, because I start early and
then end when he gets home.
435
00:34:24.909 --> 00:34:30.030
So that means that I have a
little bit of time during the day to
436
00:34:30.190 --> 00:34:34.309
myself, or I can speed run, I can fulfill all of my I
437
00:34:34.349 --> 00:34:37.949
want to play the last Guardian for
the five thousand time during the day and
438
00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:40.019
then together we play new games at
night. So we have time for both.
439
00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:45.420
Oh that's kind of really smart.
It's very nice, and we alternate
440
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:50.300
who plays games or sometimes we'll play, you know together, like dark souls.
441
00:34:50.659 --> 00:34:52.820
He'll play for a while, if
he gets frustrated, he'll give it
442
00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:58.010
to me. I'll play for a
while you know, currently playing vigil the
443
00:34:58.130 --> 00:35:04.690
longest night, which is a lesser
known metroid Vania. Sounds earlier, but
444
00:35:04.769 --> 00:35:09.400
I could not tell you any about
it. You can definitely tell that it
445
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.000
doesn't have the same level of Polish
as something like Hallin night, but it's
446
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:19.679
charming and its own way. I'm
seeing a lot more. I think all
447
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.190
night kind of maybe struck it that, like new metroid Vanya's, people are
448
00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:28.150
really kind of enjoying them, and
when they have a think ard style it
449
00:35:28.829 --> 00:35:32.789
even better. Yeah, I think
that hallow night really reminded people what the
450
00:35:34.550 --> 00:35:37.940
genre is capable of. MMM,
and so people are suddenly willing to give
451
00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:43.780
a lot of other things to try
to hopes of chasing that high again of
452
00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:46.699
hollow night. I've been seeing a
lot of ender lilies. That game looks.
453
00:35:46.940 --> 00:35:54.289
Yeah, I don't know. He
debated between vigil and Underword. Real
454
00:35:54.329 --> 00:36:00.650
Lilies. Is the one with the
the sliding combat Gail Right? I think
455
00:36:00.730 --> 00:36:07.440
so, like Rundio, deither Grandi
or a lunar boy, I can't remember
456
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.559
because I can't keep those games separate
because we played them right after each other.
457
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.239
You so this shelf? Like do
you have a physical collection of pretty
458
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.349
much everything you play. Yes,
we prefer to do physical things over digital
459
00:36:22.469 --> 00:36:24.429
things. I do too, and
I always feel like the minority in this,
460
00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:28.750
but just something nice about having a
tangible item. It's so great.
461
00:36:29.429 --> 00:36:35.300
Yeah, and you know Spiro as
an example. Can't run eighty dragons if
462
00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:38.219
you don't have the physical Oh,
is that a thing? Yeah, Console
463
00:36:38.300 --> 00:36:43.300
Adi Dragons. If you have the
digital console version, you can't run adye
464
00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:47.769
dragons because you can't back patch to
one point out. I've had a lot
465
00:36:47.969 --> 00:36:52.650
of Sart runners on here and it
almost seems like everyone always says, oh,
466
00:36:52.690 --> 00:36:57.730
yeah, pc is just the way. The something you ever thought about
467
00:36:57.769 --> 00:37:02.239
like switching to when I was still
primarily streaming spiral? I thought about it,
468
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:08.920
but I'm can be competitive, but
Spiro was not something I was ever
469
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:17.150
super competitive in. Unless somebody takes
my ead dragons, I but so just
470
00:37:17.309 --> 00:37:22.070
moving over to a different console and
having a new set of COMP petitiveness was
471
00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:24.110
like, I don't I don't really
need this and I don't like to stream
472
00:37:24.110 --> 00:37:32.539
from PC, mostly because no,
I just I prefer consoles because I stream
473
00:37:32.579 --> 00:37:37.059
from my laptop. I would be
playing spiral on my laptop at the same
474
00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:39.780
time that I'm streaming and I have
to like manage chat and the game.
475
00:37:39.940 --> 00:37:44.369
Yeah, that sounds I don't like. It possible. Yeah, I don't
476
00:37:44.409 --> 00:37:49.489
like it. So I try to
avoid PC gaming when I can. I've
477
00:37:49.530 --> 00:37:52.449
seen people try and do that,
where you just have like a minimized game
478
00:37:52.769 --> 00:37:55.170
or like a windowed game and then
have the chat on the side, and
479
00:37:55.210 --> 00:38:02.880
I, like, I that just
seems impossible. Something's very struggle. But
480
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:06.840
with spiral, have you ever,
I guess, thought of returning to do
481
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.360
like mbs or anything like that again, even on console? Um, I'm
482
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.789
happy with my NBS time, but
I think that BS, mbs is always
483
00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:19.110
been the thing that I come back
to when I want to play Spiro.
484
00:38:19.710 --> 00:38:23.190
HMM, somebody took my any percent, I believed, two months ago Ish,
485
00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:27.030
and I'm like a, you know, I'll, I'll get to it.
486
00:38:29.179 --> 00:38:34.500
Any person seems I don't know.
At least I've kind of have more
487
00:38:34.539 --> 00:38:38.460
of the PC reference, but just
bugginess of it. The yeah, short
488
00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:43.809
length. I't like I couldn't see
myself wanted to push it either. This
489
00:38:43.969 --> 00:38:50.650
point it's it's really brutal and a
speed run because it's fun. So when
490
00:38:50.650 --> 00:38:53.010
it comes to the point where I'm
sacrificing my sanity in order to save two
491
00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:57.400
seconds. I'm like, okay,
this is this is enough, and that's
492
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.199
why I don't run the flight levels
anymore. I was huge in running the
493
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.960
flight levels for the first probably year
that the game was out. SRT,
494
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:13.429
not the original, was constantly fighting
for old record. I would take it
495
00:39:13.510 --> 00:39:15.829
and then for a would take it
and then I would take it back and
496
00:39:15.909 --> 00:39:20.230
Jordi would take it and was just
constant. It got to the point where
497
00:39:20.230 --> 00:39:27.380
I spent three months grinding wild flight
point one second. I got it,
498
00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:30.619
then for obeat it and I was
like okay, no way. Yeah,
499
00:39:31.219 --> 00:39:35.820
like there are so many more productive
things I could do with my time.
500
00:39:35.820 --> 00:39:39.849
MMM. You know, I've always
had major respect the time trialers. Like
501
00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:44.449
I lose a few seconds and was
in a split or something. I'm like
502
00:39:44.769 --> 00:39:47.010
yeah, you know whatever, they're
competing, like you said, for that
503
00:39:47.130 --> 00:39:52.559
point one second. It's like Ah, I'm okay, when sometimes, sometimes
504
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.199
you're competing for more than that because
of that in game timer in spiral,
505
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:04.239
which will round you up you're a
certain distance from from half season, you
506
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:09.389
know. So it's like, but
love the flight levels. Every now and
507
00:40:09.469 --> 00:40:13.230
then I still go back to him, but yeah, it got to the
508
00:40:13.269 --> 00:40:16.670
point where, well, spiral was
facing two pixels too far to the right.
509
00:40:16.750 --> 00:40:20.789
Guess I'm done. Yep, you
know, there you said. It
510
00:40:20.869 --> 00:40:25.059
kind of not fun anymore. It's
not like a super quick reset either.
511
00:40:25.739 --> 00:40:32.019
Yeah, gotta crash, wait for
the load, I guess. Yeah,
512
00:40:32.019 --> 00:40:37.489
it's since we're already kind of Segue, let's go into your speed running a
513
00:40:37.650 --> 00:40:40.769
bit. The whatever, I guess, motivate you to do that first flight
514
00:40:40.809 --> 00:40:46.050
level on spiral and then really jump
into speed running as a whole. So
515
00:40:47.010 --> 00:40:53.239
I always played video games just for
the sake of being in a different like
516
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.280
place, enjoying a different world from
the one that I was in. That's
517
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.400
why I favor story based Games and
like artistic games so much. And so
518
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.550
for me, spiral legend a dragoon
and shadowed the colossus. We're the ones
519
00:41:07.590 --> 00:41:09.269
that I played as a kid that
I was like, I could just be
520
00:41:09.389 --> 00:41:15.389
here forever. Eventually, you know, you get to the point where no
521
00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:21.780
where, every jam is in spiral
or can, and I did, literally
522
00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:24.659
draw an accurate map of the entire
forbidden land from shadow the Colossus, because
523
00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:30.219
all you do is right around on
egg roll. They really and you realize
524
00:41:30.260 --> 00:41:35.650
that you want something else. So
you start imposing challenges on yourself. Jew
525
00:41:35.849 --> 00:41:37.730
The colossus, it was, let's
see if I can go from one wing
526
00:41:37.809 --> 00:41:43.929
to the other on Avion, you
know, without walking, but by dropping
527
00:41:44.530 --> 00:41:49.440
out, trying to be cool.
And for for spiral, it was well,
528
00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.440
let's because I used to hang out
in the flight levels a lot,
529
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:53.920
because you can just fly around freely. Once you beat him, once I
530
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.760
was like, well, let's see
how fast I can do this. You
531
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.239
know, it was just another challenge, but let me keep playing the game,
532
00:42:02.909 --> 00:42:07.429
I guess. Yeah, because I
no doubt that anything I've run has
533
00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:09.590
added up hours. That's become one
of the most played things for me,
534
00:42:10.710 --> 00:42:15.619
though. That makes sense, kind
of extend the playability of it. HMM,
535
00:42:16.860 --> 00:42:21.059
because once you start doing that,
once you're like okay, I'm going
536
00:42:21.099 --> 00:42:25.699
to set a challenge for myself and
you have a goal, and then automatically
537
00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:30.650
grants you more playtime when you don't
meet your goal or when you do,
538
00:42:30.769 --> 00:42:36.969
and you said another goal. So
you have an infinite reason to continue playing,
539
00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:38.170
because every time you make your goal, just make a different one,
540
00:42:39.489 --> 00:42:45.599
a better one. What, I
guess, what is your goal right now?
541
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.320
Your big goal you're working towards and
speed running just in general. MMM,
542
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:54.199
sub three hundred and ten last Guardian, I would be sick it.
543
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.309
Based on the tech that we have
now, it would need to be a
544
00:43:00.829 --> 00:43:05.789
really, really immaculate run across all
three and a half hours. Yes,
545
00:43:05.869 --> 00:43:09.190
have a collection of like a community
sob or anything like that. I have
546
00:43:09.349 --> 00:43:15.980
made a theory task. Oh,
very difficult on modern uncles of stuff like
547
00:43:16.019 --> 00:43:23.260
that. took me almost two years. Who Make and a debuted last Christmas
548
00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:30.849
and I have the goal of updating
it a little bit every Christmas. So
549
00:43:31.449 --> 00:43:36.929
for perspective, right, first let
me clarify theory tasks. Right. I
550
00:43:37.010 --> 00:43:39.690
can't task a PSFOUR game because you
don't have the the technology to do that
551
00:43:40.010 --> 00:43:45.679
right. And you can't really task
last Guardian Anyway, because a task,
552
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:52.280
least as I understand it, is
you teach a program was to input it
553
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.710
does it perfectly, HMM, exactly
the way that you want. You can't
554
00:43:54.750 --> 00:43:58.510
do that with last guardian because Ricos
an AI, he's never going to be
555
00:43:58.550 --> 00:44:00.110
standing in the same spot twice.
He's going to do his own thing like
556
00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:05.550
you can't. There's no consistency.
The best we can do is the theory
557
00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:13.619
tasks where I take clips and cut
them together, it's fairly and equally as
558
00:44:13.699 --> 00:44:20.139
possible to create the best possible run. Or Ricos AI is always perfect.
559
00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:22.500
You always make all the risky jumps
and and all that sort of thing.
560
00:44:23.570 --> 00:44:29.769
So my current world record for last
Guardian is a boy, I don't I
561
00:44:29.849 --> 00:44:31.210
have a three hundred and thirteen.
I think I have a threehundred thirteen as
562
00:44:31.250 --> 00:44:36.409
far as I know. Yes,
yeah, I remember, so three and
563
00:44:36.449 --> 00:44:39.599
thirteen, which was a really,
really good run. I theory task is
564
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:46.679
two hundred fifty two. So it's
significantly better. It's significantly better and I'm
565
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.960
hoping, based on the developments that
I've been able to make so far,
566
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.510
mostly within the last month actually,
that I can be a lot closer to
567
00:44:55.550 --> 00:45:00.510
two hundred and forty five for this
Christmas. I definitely I wish you good
568
00:45:00.550 --> 00:45:05.110
luck. It's cool to hear that
you know it's possible, but does it
569
00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:09.059
not seem easy? I'm just hoping
it's that oddly run for sure. Yeah,
570
00:45:09.579 --> 00:45:15.179
HMM. And like my sum of
best is like a three hundred and
571
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:21.260
five or something, but realistically that's
not going to happen. So just gunn
572
00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:23.090
for the three hundred and ten and
maybe some day the stars will align.
573
00:45:24.170 --> 00:45:28.050
Didn't used to think that three hundred
and thirteen was possible and here we are.
574
00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:30.409
So yeah, true, as time
kind of progresses, I mean the
575
00:45:30.530 --> 00:45:35.690
theory test sounds like so much work. That's incredible. How a lot of
576
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:42.840
fun doing it can definitely be frustrating. I was streaming just yesterday some task
577
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.159
footage, collection stuff, or I
was just doing the final fight of the
578
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:52.230
game over and over and over again, because with fights you can't them together
579
00:45:52.949 --> 00:45:58.389
Faf way through like you can with
other types of movement, because it's a
580
00:45:58.429 --> 00:46:00.630
bunch of armors, they're all AI
things. They're all going to walk in
581
00:46:00.750 --> 00:46:06.699
separate places. Like can't just split
it halfway and cut together all the good
582
00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:10.099
parts, because it's not fair,
right. Yeah, it just seems it
583
00:46:10.139 --> 00:46:14.539
wouldn't make it for a proper like
Oh, this is that can't happen.
584
00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:22.050
Like I'm trying to put together something
that the scope of a trillion years,
585
00:46:22.250 --> 00:46:28.690
like this could happen, not something
that's just, Oh, this would be
586
00:46:28.730 --> 00:46:30.730
cool if, like, Haha,
we just didn't get a phase or whatever,
587
00:46:30.769 --> 00:46:37.880
or we have an excellent first phase
then an excellent second phase and we
588
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.239
cut those together, even though tree
goes on one side. Of the room
589
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.559
for for the first part and the
other side of the room for the next
590
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.389
part. Like that's not possible.
I Caro. I came have like,
591
00:46:47.070 --> 00:46:51.949
say, files that you can reload
to try and like regrind out a section.
592
00:46:52.670 --> 00:46:59.309
Nope, Oh, don't make it
even worse, even harder, because,
593
00:46:59.949 --> 00:47:01.019
yeah, I mean sure, I
can make safe states on a USB
594
00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:06.500
and that's what I do, but
you can stills, but every time you
595
00:47:06.579 --> 00:47:10.659
fail those the game. Yeah,
reason, have the shame data load the
596
00:47:10.699 --> 00:47:17.329
game. It's my baby and I'm
very proud of it and I try to
597
00:47:17.409 --> 00:47:23.530
make it as fair and unbiased as
possible. Like I'll I'm cutting two sections
598
00:47:23.570 --> 00:47:29.449
together, I will cut the boy
at the same location, ideally taking the
599
00:47:29.610 --> 00:47:32.960
same step though, that it's as
accurate as possible. I know, yeah,
600
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.800
little details that I'm sure only you
would notice, but I try.
601
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:47.590
Is definitely respectable. I have seen, at least I saw last armies an
602
00:47:47.630 --> 00:47:51.789
es a, and I think you've
done a couple marathons of it recently.
603
00:47:51.829 --> 00:47:55.389
Right, yeah, I've done a
fair number of last guardian runs. I
604
00:47:55.510 --> 00:48:00.539
was on commentary for you surpering.
Yes a doing it as well, which
605
00:48:00.579 --> 00:48:02.900
it was great to see it in
ESA. I don't submit to ESA.
606
00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:07.539
So it never would have been there
if I, surfering, hadn't submitted it,
607
00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:10.340
which is Great. Do you like
to submit it as a game and
608
00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:15.409
showcase it? Definitely. I'm kind
of a sucker for marathons in general.
609
00:48:15.130 --> 00:48:21.170
I like. I've noticed that Lardy
when I first started like kind of following
610
00:48:21.210 --> 00:48:23.210
your channels, like she's been a
marathon every other day. It seems like.
611
00:48:23.849 --> 00:48:30.079
Yeah, there have definitely a record
is five marathon runs over the span
612
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:37.119
of thirty six hours. Are you
serious? That was perhaps not a thing
613
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:44.670
I would do again. All the
same game. Biro twice. Okay,
614
00:48:45.230 --> 00:48:52.230
Biro twice, pathless inside and I
must have been spire three times. That
615
00:48:52.389 --> 00:48:58.179
was to undred eighty dragons and NBS
inside and the pathless. I think you
616
00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:04.219
just feel like a broken record.
And the same commentary kind of, I
617
00:49:04.300 --> 00:49:07.980
guess. He finally also help find
out, you know, because yeah,
618
00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:10.449
you know what you're saying. At
that point, kind of learning more and
619
00:49:10.570 --> 00:49:15.369
more and at least maybe just for
my own what I want out of things.
620
00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:21.530
But like most people aren't going to
know your run, though how you
621
00:49:21.610 --> 00:49:24.559
do individually doesn't really matter. But
at the commentary so important. If you
622
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.239
can kind of showcase how cool that
your game really is or whatever. Do
623
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.320
you know? Yeah, I would
so much rather that, like I'm going
624
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.750
to mess up balloon of SKIP IN
ADI dragons. I would so much rather
625
00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:43.110
mess it up in some catastrophic way. Yeah, really funny. Or like
626
00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:46.909
Trico just doesn't listen to me.
I would rather he just like eat me
627
00:49:46.949 --> 00:49:52.510
out a window or surprise absolutely goofy, like I don't care about what time
628
00:49:52.510 --> 00:49:54.300
I get, I just care that
people have fun watching. You know,
629
00:49:55.579 --> 00:50:00.139
I keep waiting and this is so
terrible to wish. I'm not wishing it,
630
00:50:00.260 --> 00:50:02.739
of course, but it is kind
of funny and I miss it the
631
00:50:02.780 --> 00:50:07.809
original time. But I've heard about
falling down that hole in the last guardiance
632
00:50:07.250 --> 00:50:10.289
at the end. Yeah, that
seems not fun, but it would be
633
00:50:10.489 --> 00:50:19.289
very funny the moment. I was
just devastated because that was my like first
634
00:50:20.849 --> 00:50:23.280
at the end game and I'm on
world record pace by like three minutes.
635
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.159
Well, it is the first time
I had ever been there. And then,
636
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.559
you know, yeah, to go
through the hole and guess how much
637
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.949
time the whole costs? Three minutes. Intensive it's good. So you hard
638
00:50:36.070 --> 00:50:39.789
that died section for sure. Yeah, it was devastating at the time,
639
00:50:40.269 --> 00:50:47.389
but of course now it's just something
funny to look back on. You you
640
00:50:47.469 --> 00:50:54.139
think maybe once you get that sub
three ten that you would retire the game?
641
00:50:55.099 --> 00:51:00.699
No, I know. I feel
like last Guardian is here to stay,
642
00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:06.409
as Guardian is the only run that
I have run where I never feel
643
00:51:06.409 --> 00:51:13.929
fatigue. Really it's weird. I've
been running last guardian since the inception of
644
00:51:14.090 --> 00:51:19.320
my twitch channel, HMM, which
would have been around the time Spiro came
645
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:24.199
out, so late. Two Thousand
and eighteen that's how long I've been running
646
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:30.039
it on stream, and the only
time that it ever went away was because
647
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.190
I thought people didn't like it.
HMM. It turns out that actually they
648
00:51:34.190 --> 00:51:36.829
adore it and it's one of their
favorite things that I do, which is
649
00:51:36.869 --> 00:51:38.789
why I came back for a little
while. It was inside, because I
650
00:51:38.829 --> 00:51:44.510
thought people liked that more. I've
just never gotten tired of it. Everything
651
00:51:44.550 --> 00:51:46.860
else I'm like, okay, I
made my goal, I'm good with this.
652
00:51:47.699 --> 00:51:53.139
As Guardian, find excuses to keep
playing it. MMM. Just why?
653
00:51:53.179 --> 00:51:58.219
I do these like let's just flip
my obs backwards, and so the
654
00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:00.570
controls are and I seriously did that. I love it. Is the showers.
655
00:52:01.409 --> 00:52:06.530
who was the worst idea, because
in my brain I was like,
656
00:52:06.650 --> 00:52:09.289
okay, I'm going to flip my
obs, like invert it right, so
657
00:52:09.449 --> 00:52:15.570
it's like mirrored world in a game. But what my brain didn't comprehend until
658
00:52:15.570 --> 00:52:19.360
I started playing was that that meant
the controls were back words too. Yeah,
659
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.079
is there a little bit of way
watching through obs as well? Not
660
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:29.360
For me, thankfully, my my
computer seems to handle it really well that
661
00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:34.789
I have never felt so burnt out
in my brain as after I finished that
662
00:52:34.869 --> 00:52:37.230
run. Yeah, well, I
don't think I could put it was to
663
00:52:37.309 --> 00:52:42.389
those controls. Was Fun and I
still finished, I think, with like
664
00:52:42.429 --> 00:52:46.420
a three hundred and fifty. Oh
really, it's that's pretty solid. Yeah,
665
00:52:46.460 --> 00:52:52.820
yeah, you have any in white
tower skip like with inverted controls?
666
00:52:55.139 --> 00:53:00.409
You seriously? We have some clips
of its accidentally press left when I meant
667
00:53:00.409 --> 00:53:06.289
to push a little bit right and
fall falling. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
668
00:53:06.329 --> 00:53:08.329
I have at least one clip that
somebody took at that point. On my
669
00:53:08.369 --> 00:53:14.440
channel. It's called like I'm me
and I am a victor or something.
670
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.960
That was those trying to little myself
from each yeah. Yeah, I was
671
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.280
trying to slip myself up for doing
it. Those are the moments, for
672
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:30.190
sure. You have any thoughts on
like longer categories versus like sub our categories,
673
00:53:30.869 --> 00:53:37.030
or is it just very players of
our Oh really sub hour whenever possible.
674
00:53:37.590 --> 00:53:43.699
Like I try anukie to make many
last guardian categories as possible to make
675
00:53:43.739 --> 00:53:45.980
it accessible for people, and it
makes me really sad that in a game
676
00:53:46.059 --> 00:53:52.099
like that there just aren't really short
categories. We have windmill basically for people
677
00:53:52.099 --> 00:53:55.130
who want to do a little bit
of last Guardian. So that's like fifteen
678
00:53:55.170 --> 00:54:00.650
minutes. But I I'm given a
choice between a category that's fifty minutes at
679
00:54:00.650 --> 00:54:04.010
a category that's an hour and a
half, I'll choose the fifty minute one
680
00:54:04.369 --> 00:54:08.449
less there's something immensely appealing about the
other one. Yeah, for sure,
681
00:54:08.570 --> 00:54:14.239
I'm I mean just time. Dedication
alone is a big factor. Man Don't
682
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.599
have I have time during the day, but I don't have like a ton
683
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:21.159
of time during the day in order
to make time during my work day for
684
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:29.829
the last Guardian, which a bad
day is like forty I just have to
685
00:54:29.869 --> 00:54:34.469
plan my entire week around it and
have to organize my work around making that
686
00:54:34.630 --> 00:54:38.260
chunk of approximately three and a half
to four hours a Tuesday. So I
687
00:54:38.420 --> 00:54:44.219
just I can't take runs that are
that long. MMM and a regular basis.
688
00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:50.900
Ego is pushing it two hours.
PATHOS is also kind of pushing it
689
00:54:50.940 --> 00:54:52.650
at two hours. I really don't
think I can take anything more than two
690
00:54:52.650 --> 00:54:58.329
hours in addition to last guardian.
That seems that you've kind of done that
691
00:54:58.530 --> 00:55:05.050
whole the the team eco collection.
You have, like any more love for
692
00:55:05.250 --> 00:55:09.159
shadow of the Colossus versus Eco.
I love shadow the colossus as a speed
693
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.559
run. I don't like it,
and that's not to say that it's not
694
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.039
an amazing speed run and that the
people who do it are just absolutely bonkers.
695
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.670
It's just that the kind of tech
that you use in that run is
696
00:55:21.710 --> 00:55:25.190
the kind of tech that I'm not
good at. So for me it's a
697
00:55:25.230 --> 00:55:30.590
really challenging run. It's bonkers to
watch and I highly recommend the people check
698
00:55:30.590 --> 00:55:36.219
it out. But I want to
do we have a category on our extension
699
00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:40.380
board called Tricoffecta, which is where
you play Eco, Chato, classis and
700
00:55:40.380 --> 00:55:45.579
the last guardian in a in a
relay on run or doing all three games
701
00:55:46.300 --> 00:55:52.690
and shadow the Colossus definitely intimidates me
the most. Feel fine with ECO I
702
00:55:52.730 --> 00:55:55.409
feel fine with last guardian. Those
are just me and my ai companions doing
703
00:55:55.449 --> 00:55:59.730
stuff out of the Colossus is like, Oh yeah, I'm going to stand
704
00:55:59.769 --> 00:56:01.449
on this giant creature's leg and he's
going to vault me into the air and
705
00:56:01.530 --> 00:56:07.159
probably all land on his head.
Maybe wild. Yeah, it just baffles
706
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.599
me. I love it as a
game. It's a wonderful game. Was
707
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:17.590
One of my core childhood games.
I was fortunate, or maybe unfortunately,
708
00:56:17.590 --> 00:56:21.949
I don't know, I didn't play
it originally, but when the remaster came
709
00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:24.710
out I was like, Oh,
this is actually really solid. Yeah,
710
00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:31.550
for sure. I grew up on
the PSTWO version and didn't play the psthree
711
00:56:31.590 --> 00:56:36.780
version. Like the remake thing that
comes with ECO. MMM. Until I'm
712
00:56:36.820 --> 00:56:39.059
at my husband and he was like
I don't have the platinum trophy for this
713
00:56:39.139 --> 00:56:42.260
game, and I was like hold
on, how to get the Platt I
714
00:56:42.340 --> 00:56:45.460
got this, come on, got
this for you like this, this is
715
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:49.170
going to be so easy. I
was wrong, because the three version,
716
00:56:50.329 --> 00:56:53.090
psthree version, just seems like wanders
covered in just I can't believe it's not
717
00:56:53.210 --> 00:56:58.369
butter really that bad. He just
he's all over the place. If it's
718
00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:00.409
your first exposure of the game.
You probably don't feel it. I was
719
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.320
so used to the PSTWO that it
was a real struggle. We still don't
720
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.639
have that platinum. Really, you
never finished it? Yeah, well,
721
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:15.710
frustrated, a way too frustrated on
hard time attack argus. But and then
722
00:57:15.789 --> 00:57:17.949
you know the two thousand and eighteen. I think two thousand and eighteen remake
723
00:57:19.190 --> 00:57:23.710
is phenomenal. Of course, not
right. We're having a weird bug because
724
00:57:23.710 --> 00:57:27.389
I picked it up early and I
think they fixed it, but it would
725
00:57:27.949 --> 00:57:31.420
just like the physics didn't work or
like a boss disappeared or something great.
726
00:57:31.659 --> 00:57:37.099
Uh Huh. What do you look
for now? And a speed run then,
727
00:57:37.300 --> 00:57:42.420
like any potential new games. Well, if it has an a I
728
00:57:42.539 --> 00:57:49.610
companion, I'm probably giving it a
favorable outlook. A look though, like
729
00:57:49.730 --> 00:57:54.449
let's just take, for example,
ask Guardian versus hollow night, as I
730
00:57:54.530 --> 00:57:59.559
did try to learn hollow night,
and I say try on purpose. Yeah,
731
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:06.480
but it's guardian last. Guardian is
very much get from point a to
732
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:12.599
point B. do that in a
reasonable way, you'll be good. Allow
733
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.909
night is you need to crystal dash
from exactly this position. If you do
734
00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:19.670
not, you fail, and not
only do you fail, you don't get
735
00:58:19.670 --> 00:58:24.309
to try again. Yeah, you
know. So, if it has stuff
736
00:58:24.429 --> 00:58:31.019
like that, we're consistently you're asked
to make very, very specific that necessarily
737
00:58:31.019 --> 00:58:34.780
once to say pixel perfect, but
you know what I mean, very specific
738
00:58:34.940 --> 00:58:39.420
stuff that you cannot continue the run
until you get that correct. That discourages
739
00:58:39.460 --> 00:58:44.489
me from from doing that because I
just don't have the time to like practice
740
00:58:44.530 --> 00:58:47.329
that kind of stuff. Yeah,
makes this guardian, you know, last
741
00:58:47.369 --> 00:58:53.050
Guardian, making drawbridge skip, for
example, which is really important and very
742
00:58:53.130 --> 00:58:58.599
precise, doesn't mean that you have
to do it exactly one way. We
743
00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.559
can do it a bunch of ways
and still succeed, but it's still very
744
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:05.800
hard. That's like the ideal place
that I want to be. You know,
745
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:09.750
there's nothing again against hollow night.
Once again, hollow night blows my
746
00:59:09.750 --> 00:59:15.789
mind and people like emery who run
it or just like what and it's the
747
00:59:15.829 --> 00:59:19.750
same kind of thing. WHI shadowed
the classes to the classes is kind of
748
00:59:19.789 --> 00:59:22.869
in between hollow night and last Guardian. You have some wiggle room, but
749
00:59:23.190 --> 00:59:27.619
there's still, you know, they're
doing super jumps and stuff like that that
750
00:59:27.739 --> 00:59:31.739
are predicated upon being in a very
specific position and doing something at exactly the
751
00:59:31.780 --> 00:59:38.489
right time and it's like a m
yeah, the inputs for hollow night are
752
00:59:38.489 --> 00:59:43.650
kind of not fantastic as well,
and I guess it's right or related to
753
00:59:44.090 --> 00:59:46.769
your frame rate as well. So, yeah, where you playing on switch?
754
00:59:49.050 --> 00:59:52.320
So I think that was part of
the problem. I think that you
755
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.960
can probably have a little bit more
success with hollow night than I did on
756
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:02.960
pc, but I played on a
PSFOUR opie. So yeah, simple things
757
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:08.150
like doing a down slash to pogo
off of something was suddenly not as simple
758
01:00:08.190 --> 01:00:13.030
as just pressing the down Arrow.
Yeah, you know, because I was
759
01:00:13.110 --> 01:00:15.510
using joystick, and so then it's
like less accurate and it just kind of
760
01:00:15.550 --> 01:00:23.900
feels proofear, if that's if that's
a word. So it's an I don't
761
01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:27.780
I don't want to say that PC
players have an advantage or anything, but
762
01:00:27.940 --> 01:00:30.300
I think that if I would have
tried on pc, I might have been
763
01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:32.460
a little more successful. Oh,
it's a when it's stat of comes to
764
01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:37.610
your inputs and stuff like that.
That's a definite advantage out about it,
765
01:00:37.130 --> 01:00:43.690
especially the sort of super precision that
some things require. HMM, I'm kind
766
01:00:43.690 --> 01:00:47.170
of just got big into hollow night
running stuff. What category did you try
767
01:00:47.210 --> 01:00:54.400
to learn skills Oh, really nice. I got probably a decent like twenty
768
01:00:54.480 --> 01:01:00.119
five minutes, like I had the
first twenty five minutes. Down was however
769
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.960
far you get when you get to
that dark room that you have to navigate
770
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.630
without the lantern. Yeah, the
dark room alone has kept me off of
771
01:01:06.710 --> 01:01:09.190
all skills, at least for now. Yep, I got to that and
772
01:01:09.349 --> 01:01:13.070
I practice it for a long time
and I got no better at it.
773
01:01:13.150 --> 01:01:16.829
MMM, and I was like okay, okay, I think I'm done.
774
01:01:19.099 --> 01:01:22.900
I love Halinda. Is a game
and yeah, I still occasionally come back
775
01:01:22.019 --> 01:01:25.780
and just like try to Redo Panther
on of Hellenist and stuff like that,
776
01:01:28.219 --> 01:01:30.780
because I was so bad at it. I guess this might be what makes
777
01:01:30.820 --> 01:01:35.769
me tick a little weirdly. I
was so terrible at it. It was
778
01:01:35.849 --> 01:01:37.730
like I need to do that.
I am not going to let this game
779
01:01:37.769 --> 01:01:42.130
beat me. And I got to
like I was learning it and for any
780
01:01:42.170 --> 01:01:46.360
percent you do watch or nights with
only BS and in my casual play through,
781
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.800
I pretty much I monkey brain.
I was like let me hit things
782
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.440
with my nail as almost my only
damage output. So I built for that,
783
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:57.400
which is fine, but to start
playing the games like hey, your
784
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.239
nail does nothing. Start using fireballs, like I can't do this, and
785
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:06.150
I probably had to play the watchers
for like three hours before I didn't die.
786
01:02:06.269 --> 01:02:09.510
Ninety percent of the time. It's
like very similar to how I felt,
787
01:02:09.510 --> 01:02:14.510
because I've always played in casual and
like doing panther of Hellenist and everything.
788
01:02:14.829 --> 01:02:17.019
Obviously, in order to beat pant
out of Hellenist you have to practice
789
01:02:17.059 --> 01:02:22.300
the bosses a lot. So I
had all of these bosses ingrained with this
790
01:02:22.500 --> 01:02:25.860
like nail centric combat. Then you
go to the speed run and it's like,
791
01:02:25.980 --> 01:02:29.179
Oh, you're just using descending dark
all the time. Yeah, for
792
01:02:29.340 --> 01:02:31.889
whatever, all these all these spells, and I'm like, I don't I
793
01:02:32.010 --> 01:02:36.690
don't know the timings for any of
this. I could learn, but there
794
01:02:36.769 --> 01:02:38.929
were just things that I wanted to
do more, you know, watching like
795
01:02:39.050 --> 01:02:44.920
the the M rays, Viz fireborn, all those oper runners. It's insane.
796
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.760
I was like, Oh, I
play this game entirely wrong. Yep,
797
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.440
but it's cool. It kind of
opens up a new style. Yeah,
798
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.960
and it's kind of second nature to
them at that point. Yeah,
799
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:59.429
just like it is to me with
with last Guardian. You know, people
800
01:03:00.510 --> 01:03:04.269
I take for granted the Times that
I get in last Guardian because those times
801
01:03:04.349 --> 01:03:07.829
our second nature to me. But
it just is years and years of doing
802
01:03:07.869 --> 01:03:12.030
it over and over again. You
do anything for years over and over again,
803
01:03:12.030 --> 01:03:15.659
you'll get better at it. It's
a fascinating effect to me running and
804
01:03:15.820 --> 01:03:19.340
some that I really enjoyed and I
just kind of shows the time you put
805
01:03:19.420 --> 01:03:23.860
in. Is once you break of
a milestone of a barrier, it seems
806
01:03:23.900 --> 01:03:28.409
like you consistently don't go back.
Yeah, you don't go back, and
807
01:03:28.530 --> 01:03:32.010
it's so fascinating to me. It's
funny and I wonder if there's like a
808
01:03:32.050 --> 01:03:36.969
little a little mental part of that
too. MMM. You know you like
809
01:03:37.570 --> 01:03:42.800
for last Guardian, that that final
barrier is typically three and thirty. So
810
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:49.119
you break three and thirty, you've
like broken into like the the the Golden
811
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:54.519
Center of this egg that is the
last guardian speed running go back and it's
812
01:03:55.389 --> 01:03:59.150
I wonder if it's just seeing that
you have a three hundred and twenty eight
813
01:03:59.150 --> 01:04:01.789
or whatever, and then your brain
is like, Oh, I did this
814
01:04:01.909 --> 01:04:04.469
thing like that, I can do
that again, that was no problem.
815
01:04:05.550 --> 01:04:11.380
That helps, you know, is
even in a game like last guardian that
816
01:04:11.420 --> 01:04:14.860
has so much rng, once you
break the three and thirty, you typically
817
01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:17.340
don't go back. So it's not
just that, oh, I have a
818
01:04:17.380 --> 01:04:21.539
three and thirteen in the s like
the big barrier, for sure. Yeah,
819
01:04:23.219 --> 01:04:26.650
well, three hundred and twenty remained
my barrier for for a decent amount
820
01:04:26.650 --> 01:04:29.570
of time. Then again, you
know, I went past the three and
821
01:04:29.570 --> 01:04:33.449
twenty and didn't really go back,
and now I consider I consider a three
822
01:04:33.489 --> 01:04:38.880
hundred and twenty two to be boy, what happened here? You know,
823
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:45.519
figure it out, boy. And
we just did a big race in our
824
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:49.480
community, which is a bunch of
people racing together for the last Guardian because,
825
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:55.590
amazingly we actually have enough people to
do that. And I thought,
826
01:04:55.789 --> 01:04:58.349
you know, this is just a
raise, it's just for fun. I'm
827
01:04:58.349 --> 01:05:01.309
going to have fun, and so
I did the run, tempting like a
828
01:05:01.389 --> 01:05:06.179
bunch of tests, only strats that
we're almost guaranteed to fail, but I
829
01:05:06.260 --> 01:05:11.139
just wanted to kind of goof around. Yeah, why not? I lost
830
01:05:11.179 --> 01:05:14.219
a ton of time, I was
dying all over the place and that sort
831
01:05:14.219 --> 01:05:15.579
of thing, and I still ended
up with a three and twenty six really.
832
01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:18.980
So you know, once, like
you said, once you get past
833
01:05:19.019 --> 01:05:25.170
those milestones, kind of don't slide
backwards. And to see then a lot
834
01:05:25.250 --> 01:05:31.730
of things, even I don't know
a good reference, but like maybe in
835
01:05:31.929 --> 01:05:35.519
skateboarding it's all like somebody, I
think is Tony Hawk, had got like
836
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.840
the first ten eighty or something,
and then everybody's pulling out to s and
837
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.000
just in general and running and stuff, a lot of people watch one person
838
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:48.920
push of time barrier and then several
other people tend to do it. Well.
839
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.469
Yeah, so that the mental side
of it is vain for sure.
840
01:05:54.230 --> 01:05:57.550
The example that came to my mind, which once again shows how kind of
841
01:05:58.750 --> 01:06:02.949
niche in my interests, figure skating. Same thing happens in figure skating.
842
01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:09.139
For the longest time people couldn't do
a quadruple lots and then as soon as
843
01:06:09.179 --> 01:06:13.500
one person did it, everybody else
suddenly they can do quadruple lots is which
844
01:06:13.619 --> 01:06:16.780
things they thought to be impossible.
So you know, it's the same thing
845
01:06:17.019 --> 01:06:23.329
across a bunch of sports and stuff. I guess just because of relevance and
846
01:06:23.570 --> 01:06:26.809
you know Okyo and all that are. Are you a fan of the Olympics?
847
01:06:27.130 --> 01:06:30.409
You catching any of that and watching
it from time to time, but
848
01:06:30.530 --> 01:06:35.559
honestly I haven't paid too much attention
to it. I saw that Simone biles
849
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:39.880
withdrew in. A bunch of Americans
were salty and I'm like what? Yeah,
850
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.000
a lot of twitter. I don't
know, like much of the context
851
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:47.389
for it. Yeah, she's having
you know, her mentals just not there,
852
01:06:47.510 --> 01:06:51.429
which, yeah, but in the
end, like, are you going
853
01:06:51.469 --> 01:06:54.429
to go to the Olympics and do
better? Yeah, right, just let
854
01:06:54.469 --> 01:06:57.110
her make a decision. As you're
eating pizza on your couch, you're going
855
01:06:57.150 --> 01:07:00.940
to complain. Yeah, her not, sadly. Yeah. Yeah, I
856
01:07:00.980 --> 01:07:05.619
haven't really been watching too closely.
I was a little bit disappointed. Hakuho,
857
01:07:05.820 --> 01:07:13.019
Yokozuna in Sumo, was anticipated to
do some sort of like nice traditional
858
01:07:13.099 --> 01:07:16.210
ceremony, I. At the opening
of the Olympics, and he didn't get
859
01:07:16.250 --> 01:07:19.329
too. For whatever reason, I
guess they decided not to do that and
860
01:07:19.449 --> 01:07:26.489
that made a lot of people said
yeah, right, especially you kind of
861
01:07:26.489 --> 01:07:30.039
start hyping it up and then like
I never mind. Yeah, exactly.
862
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:33.800
TACO is getting ready to retire and
everybody was like, og, at least
863
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:35.559
we get to see him in the
Olympics, you know, and then he
864
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:42.519
didn't get to do it. All
Right, I definitely have to ask about
865
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:46.710
this. And it was so cool
to kind of watch like hosted or was
866
01:07:46.789 --> 01:07:53.070
at least restreaming the sumo tournament.
Yeah, that's so unique to me,
867
01:07:53.469 --> 01:07:58.619
like I've never seen anybody do that
on twitch before, but huge fan know
868
01:07:58.860 --> 01:08:01.059
so much. That made it very
engaging and like I don't really know sumo,
869
01:08:01.099 --> 01:08:03.099
I know they try to push each
other out of the ring. Like
870
01:08:03.380 --> 01:08:06.739
I can understand the scoring system,
everything, how it works. Give a
871
01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:10.260
really good insight. That's something you
think you're going to do more of?
872
01:08:11.099 --> 01:08:15.610
Yeah, for sure. I tend
to do one to two sumo s dreams
873
01:08:15.690 --> 01:08:19.329
per tournament, which happens every of
the month. It was a pain in
874
01:08:19.369 --> 01:08:23.609
the but, if I'm being honest, to get permission, you know,
875
01:08:23.770 --> 01:08:27.520
because I had to like write a
letter in Japanese. Thankfully I have a
876
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.600
Japanese major, write a letter in
Japanese to like the NHK and then they
877
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:36.319
forwarded it on to the people the
Nihon Sumo Kyo Kai, who manage the
878
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:40.279
sumo stuff, and then I have
to be like hey, this is how
879
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:44.510
many people I expect and can I
have permission to do this? And is
880
01:08:44.510 --> 01:08:46.470
in the middle of Covid so I
wasn't even sure if my letter was going
881
01:08:46.470 --> 01:08:50.510
to get to Japan. Yeah,
writing mail stuff is a pain in the
882
01:08:50.590 --> 01:08:57.220
butt, but I'm glad that people
enjoy it. That's like the most somehow
883
01:08:57.260 --> 01:09:01.220
Japanese thing that had to do a
physical letter as well. Yeah, well,
884
01:09:01.260 --> 01:09:05.779
because I contacted them via email and
actually via twitter first. HMM,
885
01:09:05.859 --> 01:09:09.220
as like can I do this,
and they were like send it to our
886
01:09:09.260 --> 01:09:13.569
office. Yeah, I don't want
to send it to your office. From
887
01:09:13.649 --> 01:09:16.170
what I've heard from a lot of
people that work they're like in the cities
888
01:09:16.210 --> 01:09:20.529
and stuff depends. Seems so progressive
on so many things, but then for
889
01:09:20.649 --> 01:09:26.119
some reason, like a lot of
their business tactics are very stone age like
890
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:30.079
still sending facts and stuff like that. Like what you guys have robots that
891
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.079
do everything, but you don't like
a cell phone. Yeah, there's something
892
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:39.029
apparently, about a physical copy of
something. Yeah, but yes, in
893
01:09:39.109 --> 01:09:41.109
most rings are a lot of take
for them to get back to you.
894
01:09:41.590 --> 01:09:44.949
I would think this would be like
this isn't real right, some Americans trying
895
01:09:44.989 --> 01:09:48.109
to get access to her our stuff. Well, it took it took two
896
01:09:48.109 --> 01:09:51.789
or three weeks for the letter to
get there. MMM, so it took
897
01:09:51.899 --> 01:09:58.899
quite a long time to sort everything
out. I'M NOT gonna lie. Part
898
01:09:58.899 --> 01:10:02.819
of me might have maybe if it
just didn't come back of like a oversk
899
01:10:02.899 --> 01:10:05.939
it. It's not like they're going
to really DMCA me. They probably won't
900
01:10:05.939 --> 01:10:12.130
even know right. Yeah, especially
because I'm so small. But how did
901
01:10:12.130 --> 01:10:14.770
you get into him? At least
you can at least try to do the
902
01:10:14.850 --> 01:10:19.689
right thing right, right. How
did I get into sumo? I lived
903
01:10:19.850 --> 01:10:25.800
in Japan for a bit in Hi
Kone, which is in Sheeta Prefecture,
904
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.920
and while I was there I was
making that documentary for the Asian Studies Department
905
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:35.909
and I was like I better go
and see as much of Japan cultural stuff
906
01:10:35.949 --> 01:10:43.270
as I can. So I went
to see Ukai, which is cormorant fishing,
907
01:10:43.310 --> 01:10:45.630
where they take birds that catch the
fish for them and bring them back
908
01:10:45.630 --> 01:10:53.260
to the boat, like no,
Kabuki, sumo, all that sort of
909
01:10:53.300 --> 01:10:56.619
stuff, and I saw sumo.
It was like this is the best thing
910
01:10:56.699 --> 01:11:00.939
ever. It just something about it
clicked. Yeah, and I was really,
911
01:11:01.539 --> 01:11:06.130
really, really enjoying it and I
ended up didn't know or understand the
912
01:11:06.210 --> 01:11:11.369
significance at the time, but I
do now. Akaho, the Yokozuna,
913
01:11:11.529 --> 01:11:15.970
is famous because of how many tournaments
he's won. He's won more than any
914
01:11:16.010 --> 01:11:25.039
other Oh, because Zuna and his
inspiration, his mentor the person that he
915
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:30.439
wanted to be like was the Yokozuna, Taiho, and I happened to be
916
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.310
there, unbeknownst to me at the
time, on Day fifteen, the final
917
01:11:33.350 --> 01:11:40.829
day, and he beat Taiho's record. Oh that's cool now. Yeah,
918
01:11:40.949 --> 01:11:43.189
like looking back, I was like, Oh, I'm so glad I was
919
01:11:43.229 --> 01:11:45.789
there, but buying the ticket I
was just like, well, I guess
920
01:11:45.829 --> 01:11:48.739
I'll go on Day fifteen because this
is the most convenient day of the week
921
01:11:49.579 --> 01:11:55.539
for me. So it was.
It was a nice little surprise, but
922
01:11:56.260 --> 01:11:58.460
I just I went and watched it. It was great. I've been a
923
01:11:58.539 --> 01:12:02.930
fan ever since. Does your brain
kind of registered? Japanese very fluidly.
924
01:12:04.569 --> 01:12:10.329
Depends on what I'm looking at.
I'm actually, I would say, better
925
01:12:10.609 --> 01:12:15.079
than average at Kanji. It's I
think most people struggle with for some reason.
926
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:21.439
I suck at Katakana really, which
is should be the simplest thing,
927
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:27.560
because it's just foreign words put into
Japanese. Yeah, and so you would
928
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:32.630
think we have one person who submits
to a couple of the marathons that I
929
01:12:32.750 --> 01:12:39.590
help with who their name on the
submission sheet is always in Katakana, and
930
01:12:39.710 --> 01:12:46.220
I always read it real slowly and
I'm like Whuaudi Sta, what what?
931
01:12:46.779 --> 01:12:53.739
And it's falling star, like it
takes me like five minutes. It feels
932
01:12:53.779 --> 01:12:57.060
like those games. During it the
first time I didn't place it as like
933
01:12:57.260 --> 01:13:01.569
what. Yeah, it's like those
games where the words are separated in different
934
01:13:01.569 --> 01:13:03.930
ways, but if you read it
fast or slow it makes sense. HMM.
935
01:13:05.130 --> 01:13:09.529
That's what I have to do every
time I read Katakana and my husband
936
01:13:09.850 --> 01:13:12.850
just looks at it and he's like, Falling Star, what's your problem,
937
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.000
you know, and I'm like,
I'm sorry, I'm so bad at this.
938
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.520
So you think it would be easy. And because when I was in
939
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:25.800
Japan I wrote a paper in Japanese, like a thesis in Japanese, on
940
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.189
where all of these kind of kind
of words come from. Oh really,
941
01:13:29.310 --> 01:13:31.989
it could, because like it turns
out that approximately like one percent of all
942
01:13:32.069 --> 01:13:38.109
caughta kind of words are from South
Africa. How did it is that happen?
943
01:13:38.710 --> 01:13:43.659
Right? So it's very weird and
very interesting. And so somehow I
944
01:13:43.699 --> 01:13:49.140
wrote that entire paper and I still
just can't brain. What about like auditories?
945
01:13:49.220 --> 01:13:53.579
That that's more was wondering. I
mean that is fast eating, but
946
01:13:54.260 --> 01:14:00.770
I'm decent at listening comprehension as well. I'm not great at speaking. That's
947
01:14:00.850 --> 01:14:09.090
hard by my mouth just doesn't doesn't
do it good, and I think it's
948
01:14:09.130 --> 01:14:12.239
the linguist thing, it's the editor
thing. I want to make sure everything's
949
01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.399
like organized and right, so I
end up just staring at you for like
950
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:19.720
thirty seconds one putting the pieces together
in my brain. Meanwhile my husband's just
951
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:23.920
like I'm gonna vomit something out and
you'll vaguely understand it and be okay,
952
01:14:24.710 --> 01:14:26.670
you know, and that's that's the
better way to do it. Like if
953
01:14:26.710 --> 01:14:29.350
you're learning a language and you want
to learn to speak, well, do
954
01:14:29.470 --> 01:14:33.949
it like he does. Just say
things. That's the better way. It's
955
01:14:33.989 --> 01:14:40.300
a definitely just trying seems like the
better option, but it feels so embarrassing
956
01:14:40.420 --> 01:14:45.539
sometimes it does. Yeah, I
I've had a hard drive. I thrive
957
01:14:45.699 --> 01:14:48.340
on written stuff. Like if you
need me to write a super formal in
958
01:14:48.539 --> 01:14:51.659
CAGO business email, I'm like,
Oh yeah, I'm all over this.
959
01:14:54.449 --> 01:14:56.689
But if you want me to walk
into a hotel and be like hey,
960
01:14:56.689 --> 01:15:00.449
can you hold our luggage for a
couple hours, like I out, it's
961
01:15:00.529 --> 01:15:02.289
probably fine. Just take our luggage
with us. It's let we deal.
962
01:15:02.930 --> 01:15:09.279
You know, I'd rather not do
it this. Maybe you can make sense
963
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.119
of this, since here the linguist
here it. I don't know why,
964
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.119
it blew my mind. I feel
silly, for it was like the first
965
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.600
week that I had moved to Japan, I had heard so much about this
966
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:24.109
Cocos Curry, which a little overrated. It's good, but it's not like
967
01:15:24.270 --> 01:15:28.630
all that. I lived in a
building connected to a Cocos current nice.
968
01:15:30.109 --> 01:15:32.510
Well, I had gone in and
I just expected, I don't know,
969
01:15:32.869 --> 01:15:35.819
my my brain is like I'll be
able to somehow make it work, because
970
01:15:35.859 --> 01:15:41.699
I'm talking like the first or second
day I was there even, and the
971
01:15:41.899 --> 01:15:45.659
the lay that's working there, she's
just speaking Japanese and I had zero comprehension
972
01:15:45.699 --> 01:15:50.050
at the time. Like in my
brain, for some reason want to reply
973
01:15:50.289 --> 01:15:57.569
in Spanish, like this makes sense
for some reason. Yeah, just something
974
01:15:57.609 --> 01:16:00.810
that's like a foreign must be.
Let me resort to something that's not what
975
01:16:00.930 --> 01:16:04.760
I know completely, but I kind
of know. Yep, the the part
976
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:09.880
of your brain that process is language
is like, oh, different language,
977
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:15.439
okay, and then it didn't pick
the language that it's because it was so
978
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.949
focused on different language that it wasn't
like. Okay, let's look at the
979
01:16:18.989 --> 01:16:26.430
context about which language I made the
wrong choice. Brain is weird. Yeah,
980
01:16:26.510 --> 01:16:29.909
the brain is super, Super Weird, which is why I like some
981
01:16:30.069 --> 01:16:34.739
people who have strokes that damage the
language centers of their brain. Sometimes they
982
01:16:34.779 --> 01:16:40.939
can speak one language fine and then
another language is like destroyed in the process.
983
01:16:41.140 --> 01:16:45.060
Really, I didn't know those thing. That's terrifying. And there's there's
984
01:16:46.170 --> 01:16:49.369
yeah, there's all sorts of stuff
going on in the language processing center of
985
01:16:49.449 --> 01:16:54.250
your brain. So like some some
damage to that can cause you to speak.
986
01:16:55.930 --> 01:17:00.810
This really fascinated me. One type
of damage will cause you to speak
987
01:17:00.810 --> 01:17:04.640
in a way that your words like
grammatically makes sense, but they don't make
988
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:10.359
sense in the conversation. So if
you ask me how is your day,
989
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:15.680
I might respond with the dog is
blue, like that's a sentence that works
990
01:17:15.750 --> 01:17:18.550
in English, but it's not the
right answer. Someone else was slightly different
991
01:17:18.550 --> 01:17:24.149
damage. Will Attempt to respond correctly, but their words won't make sense.
992
01:17:25.390 --> 01:17:28.630
They'll just have like a string of
nouns or something, you know, in
993
01:17:28.750 --> 01:17:32.460
response to your question. But they'll
understand and they'll they'll try to answer appropriately.
994
01:17:33.380 --> 01:17:38.539
So just mighty little differences can can
make big changes in your in your
995
01:17:38.579 --> 01:17:44.369
language parts. You think you're more
since you kind of have the background and
996
01:17:44.449 --> 01:17:47.890
stuff. Do you think you're more
apt to learning new languages? I think
997
01:17:47.930 --> 01:17:55.170
I'm more apt to using them well, once I learn them, I think
998
01:17:55.210 --> 01:18:00.920
that I'm slower to learn them because
I'm so focused on the details, you
999
01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:09.079
know, like if I learn adjectives
in Japanese, my immediate thought isn't this
1000
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:12.479
is an adjective. My thought is, okay, this is an adjective.
1001
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.949
How do I use it as a
predicate adjective versus, as you know,
1002
01:18:15.989 --> 01:18:20.229
a modifying adjective to a noun,
and adverbs be used the same way that
1003
01:18:20.270 --> 01:18:24.310
they are in English. And then
my teachers like, what are you talking
1004
01:18:24.350 --> 01:18:28.779
about? Just learn the vocabulary,
you know. No, you're butchering it.
1005
01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:33.859
So I get a little too hyperfocused
on details that don't matter at the
1006
01:18:33.859 --> 01:18:36.619
moment. Yeah, I guess most
people probably wouln't even think about it's like,
1007
01:18:36.779 --> 01:18:41.420
oh, that's just how it is. Yeah, and the need to
1008
01:18:41.449 --> 01:18:47.649
analyze it, though, I guess
jumping back to a little bit of your
1009
01:18:47.930 --> 01:18:53.210
your speed run, I suppose,
how did you really get into streaming and
1010
01:18:53.729 --> 01:18:58.680
did you like it right away.
I have to admit that I didn't really
1011
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:02.000
like it right away, but I
think that's not necessarily an uncommon thing,
1012
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:05.039
because when you don't have anybody watching
you and you're just speaking into the void,
1013
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:10.350
HMM, you know, it's kind
of me, but my husband was
1014
01:19:10.430 --> 01:19:14.310
like you should stream, because if
you're going to be doing it, you
1015
01:19:14.350 --> 01:19:17.550
might as well be doing it for
other people, and I was like,
1016
01:19:17.630 --> 01:19:21.590
okay, I guess. But realistically
the thing that made me stream was that
1017
01:19:23.149 --> 01:19:29.060
twitch was a freeway to have bods. You know. Yeah, if I
1018
01:19:29.140 --> 01:19:32.100
streamed to twitch, I could just
automatically have a submission video, because I'm
1019
01:19:32.100 --> 01:19:34.739
sure you saw, because I know
you dug in my youtube that I used
1020
01:19:34.739 --> 01:19:42.369
to for spiral ignited it. Just
have my camera pointed the TV a method
1021
01:19:42.569 --> 01:19:46.130
for sure, and I kind of
got tired of trying to perfectly balance the
1022
01:19:46.170 --> 01:19:49.770
IPAD so that it was recording the
TV, and I've had care to even
1023
01:19:49.890 --> 01:19:54.199
better. Yeah, but I was
like I would rather just not do this,
1024
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.600
and so I started streaming so that
I could have submission videos and one
1025
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.880
thing led to another. Realized like, well, a lot of people have
1026
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.600
player cams. They say you should
have player cams. Maybe I could just
1027
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:09.550
put more on instead because I don't
want to be on Cam. And then
1028
01:20:09.590 --> 01:20:13.350
people liked more and then I got
better. Act just makes perfect. I
1029
01:20:13.390 --> 01:20:15.829
got better at commentary as well and
then it just kind of grew from there.
1030
01:20:16.149 --> 01:20:20.149
Have you ever done like a Oh
hey, special occasion, I'll actually
1031
01:20:20.149 --> 01:20:25.300
use a Webcam, or is it
stayed consistently? I have done that once
1032
01:20:25.619 --> 01:20:32.739
when somebody redeemed the like Seventyzero chat
points or whatever for a lizard hangout stream
1033
01:20:34.060 --> 01:20:40.529
a reptile long. It was a
feeling, is it not? For you?
1034
01:20:41.729 --> 01:20:45.369
It's I don't like the way that
I look on camera, so I
1035
01:20:45.449 --> 01:20:48.449
would kind of like but you know, I had the reptiles. That made
1036
01:20:48.449 --> 01:20:55.479
it fun. People really enjoyed it. I have a clip on my whitch
1037
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:57.960
channel of me from that, so
you can see me if you want.
1038
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.239
I was holding my Tegoo, which
a Tagoo is like a giant for foot
1039
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.989
lizard. I was holding him for
the camera because people could request what reptile
1040
01:21:04.989 --> 01:21:10.510
they wanted to see. He just
he eateth straight out of my arm.
1041
01:21:11.069 --> 01:21:15.869
He has he yoked out of my
arms. He was flying. It was
1042
01:21:15.949 --> 01:21:20.739
great. So I have that clip
and again makes me happy when I make
1043
01:21:20.819 --> 01:21:27.859
people less nervous about reptiles. MMM. So the fact that people were able
1044
01:21:27.859 --> 01:21:32.210
to see me with a big like
Boa constrictor or on my neck and I'm
1045
01:21:32.289 --> 01:21:36.289
like he's squeezing but he's not hurting, like it's okay, he's not going
1046
01:21:36.329 --> 01:21:41.409
to hurt me, made them feel
better and that makes me feel Nice.
1047
01:21:41.649 --> 01:21:45.449
You know, I guess you have
a four foot tall reptile. Are you
1048
01:21:45.569 --> 01:21:49.000
tall person, or is that like, no, a good portion of your
1049
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:57.119
size as well. He's startlingly close
to me. I am not even five
1050
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:04.270
feet, so a shorty gang.
Yeah, he's quite long. Sam.
1051
01:22:04.750 --> 01:22:10.869
The Boa is longer than me,
six feet. It is scary, actually.
1052
01:22:12.310 --> 01:22:14.430
I don't know why. Something about
is just like, all right,
1053
01:22:14.470 --> 01:22:18.380
Yep, this thing could kill me. I mean squeeze is about as hard
1054
01:22:18.380 --> 01:22:21.140
as you would expect like a ten
year old to be able to squeeze your
1055
01:22:21.180 --> 01:22:27.060
arm. Okay. So if he
starts like be and I said this,
1056
01:22:27.180 --> 01:22:29.340
doing the stream, if you don't
know what you're doing, don't have a
1057
01:22:29.659 --> 01:22:32.489
snake around your neck right, probably
going to call a great place for them
1058
01:22:32.489 --> 01:22:34.850
to be. But if you do
know what you're doing, if it snakes
1059
01:22:34.850 --> 01:22:38.890
around your neck and it starts to
squeeze because it's trying to hold on that
1060
01:22:38.930 --> 01:22:41.890
because it's trying to hurt you.
All you have to do is grab them
1061
01:22:41.930 --> 01:22:44.760
by the tail and unwind them,
because they're really pretty weak, just like
1062
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:46.840
you hear. You know, you
can hold an alligator's mouth shut and it's
1063
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:51.239
very easy. Just grab them by
the tail. They have a really hard
1064
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:56.399
time exerting very much muscle if you
just grabbed by the tail and unwind them.
1065
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.430
You know, I didn't know that
about the alligator, so you might
1066
01:22:59.470 --> 01:23:02.430
save my life one day. I've
I've only heard it. I don't know
1067
01:23:02.550 --> 01:23:06.430
how true it is that they're powerful
biting down, but very weak, like
1068
01:23:06.670 --> 01:23:13.619
opening up, and that's weird,
you would think, right. Yeah,
1069
01:23:13.619 --> 01:23:16.380
I mean, I guess how strong
your triceps compared to your biceps? MMM,
1070
01:23:17.539 --> 01:23:23.140
don't need to open your mouth that
much as an outre aggressively. Yeah,
1071
01:23:24.420 --> 01:23:27.529
yeah, it was fun to do
a Lizard Hangout Stream. Obviously most
1072
01:23:27.569 --> 01:23:30.970
people wanted to see more, and
he was. He was great. But
1073
01:23:30.529 --> 01:23:34.810
I also I keep roaches that I
feed to the reptiles. You keep roaches?
1074
01:23:35.569 --> 01:23:41.560
Yeah, they're not cockroaches, so
they won't. I canfest the house,
1075
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:45.479
but it's much cheaper to keep them
than it is to go buy them.
1076
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:50.399
Just like ten dollars to buy like
a cup of roaches. Really Dang.
1077
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.399
Yeah, it's really expensive. And
now you know I have like a
1078
01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:58.909
thousand roaches for free. Oh do
they just had like on their own and
1079
01:24:00.550 --> 01:24:02.989
you just so that makes sense.
Actually, yeah, you just give them
1080
01:24:03.550 --> 01:24:08.590
the little egg crates that they live
in, and tosses Zucchini in there every
1081
01:24:08.630 --> 01:24:12.859
now and then and they're good to
go. I don't know, and a
1082
01:24:12.939 --> 01:24:15.340
grossed out, even though, like
you're the one keeping them and everything,
1083
01:24:15.420 --> 01:24:19.060
like, I wouldn't want to like
physically grab them to feed to the reptiles.
1084
01:24:19.100 --> 01:24:24.369
I guess. Sure, sure,
it. I've always been fine with
1085
01:24:24.449 --> 01:24:28.489
bugs, so it doesn't really bother
me. And I had somebody asked in
1086
01:24:28.489 --> 01:24:30.689
chat like Hey, can you bring
a roach out? When I did that
1087
01:24:30.289 --> 01:24:35.130
stream I had a big old roach
in my hand just to show how big
1088
01:24:35.170 --> 01:24:41.399
they are. But mostly the unsettling
thing is just the noise they make,
1089
01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.279
because they all, they say,
scatter. No, no, thankfully,
1090
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:49.840
but they scatter if you like pass
by them because they see your shadow right,
1091
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:56.750
and so I just walk and walk
into the reptile room and my shadow
1092
01:24:56.789 --> 01:25:02.109
passes over them. And it's just
this to horrifying, like skidder, you
1093
01:25:02.229 --> 01:25:08.140
know, as they all go and
hide. Thinking about now, is your
1094
01:25:08.180 --> 01:25:12.060
house like a sauna, because I
imagine it's Gott be pretty humid and a
1095
01:25:12.100 --> 01:25:15.460
little warm right. It could be
a challenge because I like it really warm.
1096
01:25:15.579 --> 01:25:19.739
I'm always cold. So to me, like Thermostatu is currently set at
1097
01:25:19.779 --> 01:25:25.250
seventy five monster. Well, seventy
five to me is like the bare minimum.
1098
01:25:25.850 --> 01:25:31.010
As Bondo, I am super compromising
for you, and if he gets
1099
01:25:31.050 --> 01:25:34.329
really, really hot, he can
turn it down to seventy four just until
1100
01:25:34.329 --> 01:25:36.840
it cools down a little bit and
then we turn it back up. But
1101
01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:41.640
so it makes it easy to keep
you a little north where it snows,
1102
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:46.359
yes, which is I hate it. I'm always cold. So it makes
1103
01:25:46.399 --> 01:25:54.670
it easy to keep the reptiles enclosures
at temperature. But it also we did
1104
01:25:54.789 --> 01:25:58.789
have to, you know, reduce
the humidity in the house because it was
1105
01:25:59.430 --> 01:26:05.140
uncomfortable and it was destroying things.
So electronics don't really like humidity. Yeah,
1106
01:26:05.460 --> 01:26:09.579
so now we have it at a
cozy like thirty percent ish. Oh,
1107
01:26:09.699 --> 01:26:12.500
that's it, I assumed. I
don't want why? I just figured
1108
01:26:12.579 --> 01:26:16.739
lizards need that. She do humid
they do for sure, in general,
1109
01:26:16.939 --> 01:26:25.729
like some things like bearded dragons don't, but the majority of my reptiles spans
1110
01:26:25.770 --> 01:26:30.130
somewhere along. Yes, I need
humidity. GEK basically requires that she be
1111
01:26:30.250 --> 01:26:35.760
rained on. I do that every
day and then, well, just like
1112
01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:40.319
a spray bottle, I here you
go. Yeah, yeah, then the
1113
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:46.869
berries and Raffellos, who require like
sixty to seventy percent humidity, I built
1114
01:26:47.310 --> 01:26:51.789
missing systems for them. Oh,
oh, so they're just on a timer
1115
01:26:51.909 --> 01:26:58.149
and they just missed every like two
hours or whatever. Yeah, I guess
1116
01:26:58.149 --> 01:27:01.380
that makes sense. They have a
look their own little system. You don't
1117
01:27:01.380 --> 01:27:06.859
have to leave manually control it.
HMM, and I do still spend this
1118
01:27:06.899 --> 01:27:11.500
pretty significant amount of time every day, just it's in around with their enclosures
1119
01:27:11.539 --> 01:27:15.770
and stuff, but that definitely makes
it easier. Their lights are all on
1120
01:27:15.810 --> 01:27:19.890
timers, their missrs are on timers. Do they sleep pretty well, I
1121
01:27:20.409 --> 01:27:24.930
don't know anything about reptile keeping,
but like when you sleep, are they
1122
01:27:25.170 --> 01:27:28.170
just out and you're like all right, I can go to bed without worrying
1123
01:27:28.210 --> 01:27:31.600
about them? Berries are out,
Sam and Casper, the two snakes are
1124
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:36.600
out, and get is out,
because they're all nocturnal. Wordy and raffellows
1125
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:42.920
are asleep because they're diurnal, which
means they're out during the day. Technically,
1126
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:45.350
if there's your linguist for you,
if you'd like to learn a new
1127
01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:50.310
word, creep huscular is what the
berries are. That means they're active at
1128
01:27:50.350 --> 01:27:57.909
dawn and dusk. Oh Hmm,
I've never heard that term before. Yeah,
1129
01:27:57.989 --> 01:28:02.380
most people don't, unless unless you
happen to be into creep muscular lizards
1130
01:28:03.979 --> 01:28:10.460
as killer it gets. Sounds fancy. MMM A. I pinkied up a
1131
01:28:10.500 --> 01:28:17.689
little bit while saying it. I'm
curious your take on this. I've I've
1132
01:28:17.770 --> 01:28:20.609
had this a bit as a recurring
question because we've seen a lot of different
1133
01:28:20.689 --> 01:28:26.689
interaction, but especially you did the
The des React to your speed run?
1134
01:28:27.090 --> 01:28:31.199
What do you think is a good
relationship between speed runners and developers? I
1135
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:35.119
think cannot, for the life of
me, remember what community it was,
1136
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:44.829
and I wish that I could.
One Community recently pointed out piece of tech
1137
01:28:45.069 --> 01:28:48.590
that they were concerned was going to
get removed during a patch. The Dev's
1138
01:28:48.590 --> 01:28:56.180
kept it because it wasn't affecting casual
players. That makes me really happy.
1139
01:28:56.220 --> 01:29:02.659
MMM, because casual players aren't going
to be impacted by it. Who Cares,
1140
01:29:04.300 --> 01:29:11.689
you know, like if you have
a problem with the game crashing when
1141
01:29:11.729 --> 01:29:15.729
a player is out of bounds,
don't patch the fact that the game crashes
1142
01:29:17.449 --> 01:29:20.090
because player, casual players, are
not going to be out of bounds,
1143
01:29:21.409 --> 01:29:25.760
you would think, by nature,
and if they can get out of bounds
1144
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.960
really easy, that's a problem.
Sure, like fix that. Casual players
1145
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:38.039
come first, but think that devs
who listen to what would make speed runners
1146
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:44.869
happy. It's good and should be
encouraged, because speed runners, just like
1147
01:29:46.470 --> 01:29:50.909
we, need have subsets of people
that play your game right, and it's
1148
01:29:50.949 --> 01:29:55.220
not just edule people who play your
game for the first time that you need
1149
01:29:55.260 --> 01:30:00.699
to think about. Have speed runners. You have people with disabilities who need
1150
01:30:00.779 --> 01:30:04.819
accessibility settings in the menu. Like
there's a bunch of categories of people that
1151
01:30:05.180 --> 01:30:11.210
ideally and look out for. Some
of them are more important than others.
1152
01:30:12.050 --> 01:30:15.689
You know, you should fix accessibility
settings before you worry about what you're doing
1153
01:30:15.810 --> 01:30:23.119
for speed runners. But you know, yeah, for sure, I've seen
1154
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:28.239
a lot of good and bad examples, sadly, within even my kind a
1155
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:33.119
year of doing this, and so
I I'm personally in favor of when they
1156
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:38.989
have a good like an actual vocal
relationship which the like in Ratchett and clank
1157
01:30:39.069 --> 01:30:42.949
INSOMNIAC has been great with them.
But then, like in crash, for
1158
01:30:43.069 --> 01:30:45.710
example, toys for Bob, they
also did one of those Dev reacts and
1159
01:30:45.789 --> 01:30:49.140
then they put invisible walls all over
the place to try and make some people
1160
01:30:49.140 --> 01:30:54.699
couldn't do it. Like okay,
I thought that was super bad take.
1161
01:30:54.899 --> 01:30:57.939
So I do not give us for
Bob a lot of love. Yeah,
1162
01:30:57.979 --> 01:31:02.060
I would agree that that. You
don't ever really want to feel like the
1163
01:31:02.260 --> 01:31:08.489
Dev's are somebody that you have to
not tell things to. Yeah, right.
1164
01:31:09.770 --> 01:31:15.329
So, yeah, in the pathless
obviously they were super stoked to hear
1165
01:31:15.449 --> 01:31:19.039
about about things that we could do
and they were really excited about it and
1166
01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:23.239
they knew that some things were going
to be used speed runs. You know,
1167
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:28.880
they told me so the the IG
and reacts thing. We're like,
1168
01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:30.319
well, we knew that this was
going to be a problem, but it
1169
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:35.029
was too much also to fix it
that. We were like it's okay if
1170
01:31:35.069 --> 01:31:41.310
people do this. That wasn't gamebreaking
or anything. So that's how we get
1171
01:31:41.310 --> 01:31:45.670
the bird to not be on fire
by every setting. That's kind of awesome
1172
01:31:47.380 --> 01:31:53.060
and that was a so yours was
unique and that you actually were watching it
1173
01:31:53.180 --> 01:31:57.180
through with them. Do you still
like kind of communicate with those devs at
1174
01:31:57.220 --> 01:32:01.850
all? They're very nice. There's
two discord servers for a giant squid.
1175
01:32:01.970 --> 01:32:06.489
There's the one like specifically focused on
speed runs then there's just the general giant
1176
01:32:06.489 --> 01:32:13.250
squid discord and they're always super communicative
with anybody who wants to talk to them.
1177
01:32:13.689 --> 01:32:20.279
As Amma, who runs Eco,
primarily shadowed the classes, they literally
1178
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:25.680
changed things in the game because Asama
was like, Hey, I found this
1179
01:32:25.880 --> 01:32:29.119
thing. Is this what you intended
and they were like no, thanks.
1180
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:35.229
You know, they don't mind just
receiving communication from random people and just chatting
1181
01:32:35.270 --> 01:32:42.550
with them. You know, I
guess to put a nice bow on things,
1182
01:32:44.699 --> 01:32:47.579
did you? I mean because you
have your the background you're talking about,
1183
01:32:48.100 --> 01:32:51.699
you wind up, I guess,
finding a lot of just kind of
1184
01:32:51.779 --> 01:32:58.689
homies in the general life of speed
run community from going through college and stuff
1185
01:32:58.689 --> 01:33:03.250
like that meant as is a while
back. But sure well, colledge and
1186
01:33:03.329 --> 01:33:09.329
I did go to Grad school as
well, but both of those places I
1187
01:33:09.449 --> 01:33:14.800
still tended to kind of be kind
of a loner in. In that case
1188
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:18.159
it was because I had so many
majors and things to do and I was
1189
01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:23.279
working and everything. I didn't have
time for a lot of community stuff.
1190
01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:28.390
But the majority of the speed running
friends that I've made have been as a
1191
01:33:28.470 --> 01:33:32.430
result of streaming. Is a positive
benefit that I when I started, I
1192
01:33:32.510 --> 01:33:38.510
didn't really anticipate ever happening. You
know, I think a lot of streamers
1193
01:33:38.590 --> 01:33:44.380
probably are like, why would anybody
watch me? Then suddenly you make friends
1194
01:33:44.460 --> 01:33:50.020
and you make friends with their friends
and you raid people and you build this
1195
01:33:50.100 --> 01:33:56.050
nice little network of people. I
am still in contact. I'm one of
1196
01:33:56.090 --> 01:34:03.050
the like Ho managers of a gaming
con in Indiana that is a direct result
1197
01:34:03.050 --> 01:34:10.319
of friends from college. So do
like your real life mutual's kind of know
1198
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:14.680
about your online presence? Oh Yeah, for sure. They're free to hang
1199
01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:17.239
out whenever they would like. Sometimes
they do. I always recognize them in
1200
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:25.470
chat. Struggle to not say what
their names are. That that community aspect
1201
01:34:25.750 --> 01:34:29.550
definitely something that kind of kept me
going and made me really fall in love
1202
01:34:29.590 --> 01:34:34.550
with the whole which ecosystem. Almost
crazy, and I don't care to admit
1203
01:34:34.590 --> 01:34:40.739
how much time I spend on twitch
almost every day because of it. Wish
1204
01:34:40.859 --> 01:34:43.699
that I had more time to actually
like watch the people who watch me.
1205
01:34:43.779 --> 01:34:45.500
I feel bad because I don't.
I don't have the time to. Like
1206
01:34:46.819 --> 01:34:51.060
I barely EEK out the time to
stream, yeah, for sure, let
1207
01:34:51.180 --> 01:34:55.850
alone watch people. But I try
to hop into people streams whenever I can
1208
01:34:56.010 --> 01:34:59.850
because it makes me feel happy when
they're with me. So I'd like to
1209
01:34:59.930 --> 01:35:02.689
think that they feel happy when I'm
with them too. I think it's pretty
1210
01:35:02.689 --> 01:35:11.439
understandable. A lot demographic of twitches, you know, not actively employed or
1211
01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:15.479
doing stuff full time. So you
definitely it's understandable having a life. I'm
1212
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:20.510
in a lucky transitional period right now
where I just got off of finishing working
1213
01:35:20.630 --> 01:35:25.069
for a long time, so take
a little break and I'm about to school
1214
01:35:25.149 --> 01:35:28.829
full time, so we'll see how
that changes my schedule. But and I
1215
01:35:28.949 --> 01:35:31.630
think just like simple things like in
my discord we have a channel called the
1216
01:35:31.750 --> 01:35:41.500
mortal realm where just spamming more EMOs. That's you and I love the services.
1217
01:35:41.699 --> 01:35:45.539
Stuff like that. On the surface
is just goofy, right, but
1218
01:35:45.939 --> 01:35:49.409
in reality it's a very easy way
for people in my community to be like,
1219
01:35:49.569 --> 01:35:55.569
I'm here, even though they don't
have the time. It's just as
1220
01:35:55.569 --> 01:36:00.609
simple as popping in and posting like
a mortpog or something. And it's like
1221
01:36:00.729 --> 01:36:05.000
I'm here, I'm still engaging,
I'm happy to be here. Serves another
1222
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:13.319
purpose besides just being yeah, more
than just a bathtub of memes. We
1223
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:16.079
actually in this is just it was
kind of dumb, but I think it's
1224
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:21.270
nice when every discord has like that
thing. There were just a bunch of
1225
01:36:21.270 --> 01:36:27.069
people who are afk in my vc, those like I'll damn kids, get
1226
01:36:27.069 --> 01:36:30.550
off my lawn kind of thing,
and so we just created the lawn where
1227
01:36:30.630 --> 01:36:34.380
by default you are muted, and
it was just hang out muted. You
1228
01:36:34.420 --> 01:36:38.340
can type in the the VC like
the actual text portion, but it's mostly
1229
01:36:38.420 --> 01:36:43.460
just people putting people blankets and stuff
like that. Right. It's kind of
1230
01:36:43.500 --> 01:36:46.329
become a comfy thing, right.
It's just you're there with other people,
1231
01:36:47.409 --> 01:36:51.010
just like you know, we should
normalize sitting in the same room with somebody
1232
01:36:51.090 --> 01:36:55.409
and not doing anything them. I
love that, actually. You know,
1233
01:36:56.609 --> 01:36:58.930
so that's literally just what it is. You come into the mortal realm,
1234
01:36:59.050 --> 01:37:01.279
you're here with all these other people
who just have armfuls of more emotes.
1235
01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:05.600
Just throw them not to talk.
As a matter of fact, you don't
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01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:10.520
talk in mortal realm. We don't
think. No, nobody allow those text.
1237
01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:18.109
It's just emodes, but you're there
and you're with everybody else and just
1238
01:37:18.149 --> 01:37:23.670
kind of on that realm of community. How is the communities for the Games
1239
01:37:23.710 --> 01:37:27.710
that you run? Like is last
Guardian, I imagine, early tight,
1240
01:37:28.510 --> 01:37:33.140
everybody kind of there for each other. Yeah, especially with last Guardian,
1241
01:37:33.220 --> 01:37:36.220
with it being so rng heavy.
You know, we are all very much
1242
01:37:38.260 --> 01:37:45.689
like super hype whenever anybody does almost
anything. You know, we're very close
1243
01:37:46.369 --> 01:37:51.090
with each other. It's not too
big as you might expect, but the
1244
01:37:51.130 --> 01:37:57.369
last guardian community isn't necessarily separate from
the team Eco community, which includes ECO
1245
01:37:57.409 --> 01:38:01.159
and shadow, the classes. So
it's nice in that sense. We're all
1246
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:08.840
together. And Yeah, you'll you'll
find people who never run last Guardian but
1247
01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:12.119
who runs shadow, who you get
a Peb and last guardian and they're like,
1248
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.270
Oh, this is amazing, you
know. So they're all there very
1249
01:38:15.550 --> 01:38:19.310
similar, but they're not at all
similar. At the same time, anybody
1250
01:38:19.350 --> 01:38:24.590
who runs a game by Fumi to
Aueta is going to be happy when you
1251
01:38:24.710 --> 01:38:29.739
peeb in a game made by Fumi
to Aueta, like there's just something about
1252
01:38:29.819 --> 01:38:34.340
his games that it's like you deserve
this PV. Great job. Yeah,
1253
01:38:39.460 --> 01:38:43.729
and I am getting close to finishing
up here. You have any other notable
1254
01:38:43.770 --> 01:38:49.409
hobbies that people might not know about? Notable hobbies like sailors, things you're
1255
01:38:49.449 --> 01:38:55.720
passionate about? Yeah, I like
I like sailing. Really boats. What?
1256
01:38:57.520 --> 01:38:59.399
Yeah, I guess a lot of
people don't know that about me.
1257
01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:01.960
When I was about school, I
do not have a boat. When I
1258
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.880
say boat, I mean like pirates
of the Caribbean type boat. Oh Nice,
1259
01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:10.909
tall ships is what they're called.
When I was in high school I
1260
01:39:10.989 --> 01:39:17.750
would spend my summers living on a
tall ship leaving what long is if you
1261
01:39:17.909 --> 01:39:25.460
work, it's free. Oh,
so I worked a lot on boats and
1262
01:39:25.779 --> 01:39:29.699
I love boats. Boats are a
safe and comfy place for me. Even
1263
01:39:29.699 --> 01:39:32.619
though it's the majority of people.
You go on a tall ship and actually
1264
01:39:32.619 --> 01:39:39.409
it's kind of really cramped and you
sleep in hammocks and one toilet for fifty
1265
01:39:39.449 --> 01:39:42.409
people and, yeah, I'll be
honest, that doesn't sound wonderful to me.
1266
01:39:42.529 --> 01:39:46.210
That found, yeah, actually kind
of bad. Yeah, it's a
1267
01:39:47.489 --> 01:39:53.479
thing for certain people, but for
me it's just it's real cozy and I
1268
01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:59.199
love it. My favorite place was
up your I go into boats right,
1269
01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:02.079
so, the the horizontal things that
the sales attached to are called yards,
1270
01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:08.390
standing up on the yards all the
boat is sailing. It's just like my
1271
01:40:08.430 --> 01:40:12.989
favorite place to be and I really, really miss that. It's just there's
1272
01:40:13.069 --> 01:40:16.710
no other feeling like it than just
standing up a yard while the boat is
1273
01:40:16.789 --> 01:40:19.670
rocking back and forth and just being
like the wind in your face, in
1274
01:40:19.789 --> 01:40:23.260
the smell, and there's there's nothing
else, because you're just in the middle
1275
01:40:23.260 --> 01:40:27.220
of the water. It's just lovely. It's gotta be required, right,
1276
01:40:27.300 --> 01:40:30.300
like you have to sing shanties while
you're up there. Oh yeah, we
1277
01:40:30.380 --> 01:40:33.579
would sing shanties. We had one, one person on the boat who had
1278
01:40:33.819 --> 01:40:36.930
I don't know what they're called.
They're like the they're like accordions but tiny,
1279
01:40:40.930 --> 01:40:43.609
so they're not full size cordions.
Basically the like fit in the palm
1280
01:40:43.649 --> 01:40:46.369
of your hand, beach hand.
She had one of those and she had
1281
01:40:46.449 --> 01:40:50.680
a fiddle. That was like more
than enough to get all sorts of shanties
1282
01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:57.079
going. How do you find yourself
in this situation? I don't think I
1283
01:40:57.159 --> 01:41:00.439
even knew that they still make boats
like this. Well, usually they don't
1284
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:03.199
make boats like this anymore. The
boat that I was on is called the
1285
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:11.430
flagship Niagara. It was it makes
home port in Bike Erie, which was
1286
01:41:11.550 --> 01:41:15.149
close enough to where I grew up
that I could just go there. And
1287
01:41:15.949 --> 01:41:19.140
literally, this is how it happened. I read a book called the True
1288
01:41:19.180 --> 01:41:25.779
Confessions of Charlotte Doyle about a girl
who had to learn how to live on
1289
01:41:25.899 --> 01:41:29.380
a boat in like the eighteen hundreds
or something. I was like this sounds
1290
01:41:29.420 --> 01:41:32.369
really cool. I like boats,
so that I went to the flagship Niagara
1291
01:41:32.569 --> 01:41:36.250
and I Wesley Harrison was the captain
at the time and I was like,
1292
01:41:36.329 --> 01:41:40.090
Captain West Hey, I like your
boat. Can I sail on it?
1293
01:41:40.890 --> 01:41:45.329
It was like yeah, sure,
and that was just that was how it
1294
01:41:45.449 --> 01:41:53.039
widened and then I was then I
was on the boat. So I take
1295
01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:57.000
it you don't get seasickness, then
no, I don't really get seasick you
1296
01:41:57.079 --> 01:42:02.310
can avoid seasickness by looking at something
fixed, usually the horizon. So it's
1297
01:42:03.029 --> 01:42:09.149
some's your ill seasickness. Would say
yeah, yeah, and usually after a
1298
01:42:09.229 --> 01:42:12.789
day or two you get your sea
legs. You know, yeah, and
1299
01:42:12.989 --> 01:42:15.590
you don't, you don't feel it
anymore. That's what I say. I'm
1300
01:42:15.590 --> 01:42:19.340
not sure I believe it, but
let's she's sleep in hammocks which prevent you
1301
01:42:19.380 --> 01:42:23.819
from rocking back and forth, because
the hammock right and will stay in place
1302
01:42:25.020 --> 01:42:30.609
for the whole thing. So everything
moves around it right. It makes it,
1303
01:42:30.890 --> 01:42:35.649
it makes it better. But Niagara
has bunch of Karenades. We would
1304
01:42:35.689 --> 01:42:43.250
sometimes shoot them and that was fun. What is that? Arnades? They're
1305
01:42:43.810 --> 01:42:48.439
kind of like cannons. So we
didn't shoot cannonballs. In misconception, we
1306
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:54.119
would not shoot cannonballs. Those could
hurt somebody, because we would still it
1307
01:42:54.279 --> 01:42:57.920
would, but we would still shoot
them with the appropriate amount of gunpowder.
1308
01:42:58.750 --> 01:43:02.710
Shoot a cannon ball. And the
carronades were meant to shoot thirty two pound
1309
01:43:02.789 --> 01:43:09.189
cannonballs. They were the big head
and boys, and then we had two
1310
01:43:09.270 --> 01:43:15.060
long guns that would shoot tiny little
balls instead. So your protection is what
1311
01:43:15.140 --> 01:43:19.779
I'm imagining, because otherwise that all
the tonight is would be real ear protection
1312
01:43:19.979 --> 01:43:25.420
and lots and lots of training.
Because straight up, if you stand behind
1313
01:43:25.460 --> 01:43:28.930
one of those things and it when
it shoots, it goes backwards, right.
1314
01:43:29.170 --> 01:43:31.649
Oh, that's got to be so
yeah, you stand behind one of
1315
01:43:31.729 --> 01:43:36.369
those and it hits you, you're
dead, like that's just that. You're
1316
01:43:36.409 --> 01:43:41.439
dead. Wonderful. Hits You with
such force that you are probably horrific.
1317
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:45.640
Lily injured, and so lots and
lots of training make sure that we all
1318
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:49.319
knew what was up with those,
not only certain people. Yeah, so
1319
01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:54.279
certain people were were the only ones
who were on the gun crew. They
1320
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:59.989
couldn't train everybody. In what context
did everybody need to be Tracy actually to
1321
01:44:00.470 --> 01:44:01.789
be on the gun? Well,
all right, I hear it once.
1322
01:44:01.869 --> 01:44:08.710
I'm good. Yeah, it made
an impressive column of smoke over the water,
1323
01:44:08.869 --> 01:44:11.220
though, so we would sometimes do
it when we were coming into a
1324
01:44:11.300 --> 01:44:16.579
city. I know you say you
don't have too much free time, but
1325
01:44:16.699 --> 01:44:20.539
are there any games that you have
no real desire to run but you enjoy
1326
01:44:20.699 --> 01:44:28.930
watching all night? Oh Yeah,
yeah, I don't think I will ever
1327
01:44:28.970 --> 01:44:32.369
pick up another all night to speed
run again, but I adore watching people
1328
01:44:32.489 --> 01:44:40.199
do it. I'm trying to think
of what I usually watch people do,
1329
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:44.359
like shadow the classes. Again,
I'M gonna have to learn it, but
1330
01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:47.079
it's not going to be good.
HMM. So it's real fun to watch
1331
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:55.550
people do that. Mario is always
really appealing. I would never, would
1332
01:44:55.550 --> 01:44:59.989
never forge my way into that.
Yeah, it's really interesting to watch,
1333
01:45:00.550 --> 01:45:05.470
mostly just like games where I'm like, that was fun, but I'm good.
1334
01:45:05.510 --> 01:45:11.779
Yeah, I can know that for
sure, things like had he's like
1335
01:45:11.939 --> 01:45:17.020
really fun to watch. To think
of like everything to play. Fire emblem
1336
01:45:17.260 --> 01:45:23.250
is fun to watch. Just finished
playing through path of radiance and radiant down
1337
01:45:23.289 --> 01:45:27.409
again and I'm good on fire album. I don't need to come back to
1338
01:45:27.489 --> 01:45:32.130
fire them for a while. Because, as for Husbando being himself, everything
1339
01:45:32.170 --> 01:45:36.720
is on the hardest possible difficulty.
Yeah, that's the real way to play.
1340
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:42.000
You got to respect mechanics. That
way. Beat both of those games
1341
01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:45.520
on maniac difficulty. It it's like, are you satisfied, Bro because we
1342
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:48.439
spent like a hundred and twenty hours
doing this. Yeah, actually, for
1343
01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:51.550
prior amblem, I would say I
would change my mind for that. I'm
1344
01:45:51.590 --> 01:45:55.229
like a halo. I can understand. You can just kind of like stand
1345
01:45:55.270 --> 01:45:59.710
back, but just getting like instacrited
and stuff like that. Yeah, I
1346
01:45:59.869 --> 01:46:04.819
all right. Well, this sucks
replay. Yeah, and for good for
1347
01:46:04.939 --> 01:46:11.340
ill, when you play on the
highest difficulty based in radiant dawn, can't
1348
01:46:11.380 --> 01:46:15.100
save in the middle of a battle. Yeah, so it's like well,
1349
01:46:15.380 --> 01:46:17.140
I guess I'm going to be here
for another forty five minutes getting to that
1350
01:46:17.220 --> 01:46:26.130
point again. Oh awful, we
did it. CONGRATS. Now your sense
1351
01:46:26.170 --> 01:46:30.369
of pride and accomplishment. That's her
right. Was it worth it? The
1352
01:46:30.529 --> 01:46:41.079
Baby? Yeah, fun. So. And are there any maybe underrated streamers
1353
01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:45.479
or runners that you'd like to kind
of give some attention to? Geez,
1354
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:48.949
there's so many. They are the
people that I read read Weird Romance a
1355
01:46:49.069 --> 01:46:56.789
lot. He's he, they she
gender fluid. Are Lovely, Blue Bird.
1356
01:46:57.310 --> 01:47:02.180
The streams a whole bunch of fun
games and this guy are sick.
1357
01:47:02.460 --> 01:47:08.939
Although this guy is sick is having
a baby in the next couple days.
1358
01:47:09.859 --> 01:47:15.220
So I think they will probably not
be streaming for a while. But let
1359
01:47:15.260 --> 01:47:18.409
me think. You see, you're
streaming like right now. Pick out some
1360
01:47:18.569 --> 01:47:29.090
people. That's like nobody that I
know said Flix, thirteen, raising,
1361
01:47:29.170 --> 01:47:32.840
monkey ball, runner, torpedo.
You probably know torpedo. If you know
1362
01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:40.720
Ratchett and clank. Maybe I'm pretty
rookie into it. So like Bill Wingo
1363
01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:45.550
and so yeah, sure, Dowingos
here around all the time. Um,
1364
01:47:46.510 --> 01:47:51.989
there's gotta be more. There's got
to be more. I kilt, of
1365
01:47:53.109 --> 01:47:56.670
course, Azama. We were talking
about earlier. Asama runs shadow the Colossus,
1366
01:47:57.390 --> 01:48:01.100
a conception, Sr runs bug snacks. You know, I've seen his
1367
01:48:01.180 --> 01:48:04.659
name around a lot. I think
it's been doing crazy marathons with bug snacks
1368
01:48:04.699 --> 01:48:11.579
as well. Deception is like the
bug snacks marathon. Or the game looks
1369
01:48:11.979 --> 01:48:15.489
so goofy but so great. I
don't know, I need to as really
1370
01:48:15.529 --> 01:48:18.569
goofy. Yeah, I picked it
up and played like the first little bit
1371
01:48:18.609 --> 01:48:27.880
on stream and it was it is
definitely some goof going on, but this
1372
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:30.880
about wraps it up for me.
That's all I have for you. Thank
1373
01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:35.319
you've been a wonderful guest. Where
can people find you? You can find
1374
01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:42.149
me everywhere. I am ubiquitous.
That's kind of a lie. You can
1375
01:48:42.189 --> 01:48:47.390
find me on twitter, Youtube,
mustle even read it twitch, unto places
1376
01:48:47.470 --> 01:48:53.029
as Sable Dragon Rook in all of
those locations. For the places where I'm
1377
01:48:53.029 --> 01:49:00.140
not Sable Dragon Rook, you don't
get to know those so well. Again,
1378
01:49:00.420 --> 01:49:02.539
thank you so much thanks for having
me.
