Sterling 2/1/26

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Speaker 1: Looking for the longest time. It's coming for us, all artificial intelligence, the robots taking our jobs. The question, of course, what is it that you and your kids and I and Alex Egano's producing or Sandy Collins can do or are willing to skill up around what we already do to embrace AI and have a future where we're not going I have no idea what I'm going to do with my life. A guy who knows all about these things. The director of AI Strategy and Harry Professor the University of Cincinnati lending their College of Business, Jeff Shaeffer. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW with Sterling. How are you this fine Sunday?
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Speaker 2: I'm good. Thanks for having me back.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you making time.
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Speaker 1: So what is the first thing someone should look at is they assess their current situation in looking ahead in whatever industry, whatever trade, whatever it is that they do to make a living or have a passion that they should be looking to improve upon to be able to stick around and keep doing something anything and have a future.
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Speaker 2: Well, these are all great questions and questions that I think you know we're pondering in this age of AI. Here right we have six thousand students as an example at the Lennar College of Business, you see, and we're we're talking about these same things. So one of the things that we've done is is kind of put these into i'll call them buckets of competencies. Right, and so you have some basic things about career readiness, professionalism, you know, things that before AI we'd still talk about, right, showing up to work, being prepare, you know, accountability, respect, all all of those things. What's really changed now is the tech side of it, right, tech savviness and trying to be fluent in that, in that, in those tools and in those those language and the other thing that probably doesn't get enough talk. And when we're all talking about technology, are we skilled up in the AI space? With these pools and uh uh, these these new things right that that potentially make us better, faster, smarter, we don't lose the human element. The human element may in fact become more important than the tech element and all this. So when you ask that question, I think the first thing is don't be afraid of it. I think you got to lean into the technology. At Pandora's boxes open. You know, everything is AI and it's been around for a long time. It's like you say, oh, I don't want to use AI. Well, you're you're watching Netflix tonight right that that that has AI in it, So you know everything has AI built into these things. It's just getting more ingrained into the things that we do.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Talking to Jeff Schaeffer, he's the director of AI Strategy, Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati's Lender College of Business with Sterling on the big one. So as we look at the future of jobs and what is coming next, you mentioned about being more tech savvy for someone who's using some tech but not a lot of tech. Talking to friends, I've had other people that are supposedly experts about this. They sort of say, a lot of the tree raids are probably less likely to have a major hit to their future earning possibilities by AI, but there is some AI that can be utilized to help them and what they're doing regardless of that. So this is already sort of getting into every aspect of our lives anyway, whether it's the algorithms for stuff we're streaming, or even your car that gives you that you know, oh you got you're out of your lane, or you're you're too close to somebody. Let's hit that brake for you. I mean, these are all elements that over the last decade have sorely, you know, sort of like bounced into our everyday lives.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 2: Now. If you look, if you want to talk about trades, certainly the we call this the world model, you know, the human elements. Again, AI doesn't have the concept of physics and gravity and things that are in our natural world, so it's a lot harder and people are chasing that problem. So Elon Musk is building you know, millions of robots. We'll get there and there will be people that that are replaced from human tasks, just like in a factory. But that doesn't mean everything is going to get replaced, right, And so when you go back to any of this, I think we got to look at what that is. So from a technical standpoint, let's talk about that.
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Speaker 5: Learning what AI.
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Speaker 2: Is good at and what AI cannot do, at least in the short term, in the midterm, and following that and staying on top of it. We had an alumni in this week and he said something to us that we need to teach the students to learn how to learn faster. Right, They need to be able to pick up these things quicker. They need to be able to adapt to change faster. Then they need to apply those human things that I talked about, like question framing, how do you frame the question? Like that's more important than the technical side. Being technical in this day and age is going to get wiped out before the critical thinking right, interpreting the generation because understanding is this thing that just generated? Is it right? Or is it wrong? How do I know that right? And that comes from experience, business context right, able to put it in a business context. I give you an example, like for automating an invoice flow. You know, every business has an invoice, Every invoice has a date on it, and every invoice has an amount on it. And so that sounds like something that could be easily automated. And then you say, okay, well what about medical invoicing. Now just think about the complexities I just introduced, right with insurance companies and doctors and why it's being invoiced and all those things. And so you have to have a domain expertise, and then you have to be able to apply that domain expertise to AI to get results that are worthwhile because otherwise you're just relying on a generation, right, I mean word generation that's going to give you answers. How do you know it's right? How do you know that workflow is right? How do you know that what it produced is accurate? And so being able to understand the technical side enough, the domain side enough, and then being able to apply I'll call it the personal traits right, the human elements, the critical thinking, the judgment, the ethical reasoning, accountability, all of those things.
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Speaker 1: Is there still a need for people to do coding and learn different programming languages? Because it was less than a decade to fifteen years ago, hanging out with friends and their kids and talking about the future and what they need. We need coders, we need coders, we need coders. A decade later, it seems like a lot of that stuff is sort of fallen too. The wayside, is that the case? Or am I misunderstanding where we are in what's coming?
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Speaker 2: No, there is an absolute risk there of that. I was vibe coding this week, which means that I'm not writing any code myself. I'm giving directions to the computer to generate the code. And it was in a language called Python, and I also was doing some web page stuff in EAHTML, and so these sound technical.
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Speaker 5: Then you say, okay, well, how did I know what.
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Speaker 2: Question to ask? How did I know enough about EACHTML or Python, these languages to ask the question to get what I want? Because I got exactly what I want and I didn't have to write a line of code. So then put that in perspective to students. You may not need to know all the details of how to do it, because I, you know, with code complete and you know generation of code. Now with a GitHub copilot and tools like that, it'll generate the code for me. So I go back to how do I know that code is correct? How do I put that code in production? How do I monitor that code is doing the right thing? How do I make sure that code is compliant legally? If it's making a business decision, what kind of decision is it making. Is it making a high risk decision or is it making a low risk decision? And so, while there's lots of tasks out there, if it's folding my laundry like a you know, think about a robot for an example, that's a low risk task. And if it makes a mistake no problem. But if it's making a medical decision, that could be a high risk, right. And so the short answer, yes, I think humans are critical in this in some form or fashion. But it also acknowledging people make mistakes too, right, And so I think the collaboration of the technology and the people is what's key getting that balance.
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Speaker 1: Director of AI Strategy and Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati's Lendar College of Business, Jeff Schaeffer was sterling on the Big One talking about the future of jobs and how we can better position ourselves moving ahead. These skills related to artificial intelligence, and I don't know you call it the right term here, whether it's future proofing whatever else. I just want to place in the future regard. You know, whether you're driving on seventy four now or two seventy five, whatever, and you're thinking like what's next. You know, you're thirty five years old, You've got a family, You're thinking how to how do I make sure that I'm safe? And you think about this protection issue. You talk about data interpretation, the learning, machine learning stuff and problems solving. How do you know is there if I go to UC or if I go to somewhere else, are there online tools that you can sort of take some type of tutorial or something to sort of get a firm grip on it, because if you're already you know, doing what you do and making your way through the world, sometimes it's hard to make time to do the continuing education that's necessary to stay relevant.
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Speaker 2: Loads of resources out there, right, there's all kinds of YouTube free resources that are available. But if you want to dive deeper into those things, you know, yes, a program like you see, we offer workshops for people who are busy professionals and just want to come learn a little bit. We have certificate programs if you want to dive deeper. We have degree programs, right, if you want to get a degree in this. So, if I'm out there thinking about it, I'm gonna not be scared of it. I'm going to try to embrace it in some sense. Even if you're even if you put yourself in the anti AI category, just recognize it's like saying I'm anti automobile right there everywhere. Yeah, So so you know, you have to figure out how it's going to incorporate into those things from a standpoint of changing careers or advancing or trying to do something else, I'd probably be thinking about, Okay, well, how can I leverage AI to make me better and faster at doing the things I want to do? Think about if you ever had an idea and you want to build a bitusiness, well, gosh, it's probably never been a better time. Think about you know, years ago, how would you get a website? Why you'd have to hire somebody to go build a website for you. Right today, you don't have to do that. There's loads of places to go and you could spin up a website in a few hours and your you know, your website would be ready to go. And that goes for every single task of what you're doing in the business. You could have ideas and you could brainstorm faster, you can create marketing products faster, you can create content faster, and so it really leverages anybody to be able to kind of level the playing field, if you will. Anybody can level up to do what they need to do that in that space. And so yes, go get some training, find out how to do some of these things and see if you can leverage them in whether it's your daily work at your office or whether it's something new you want to try.
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Speaker 3: You know, It's funny.
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Speaker 1: When I was coming up, it was always sterling as it possible you could fix the VCR. So it's not blinking twelve for my mom right And now I get the I don't understand why I can't get from you back to the iHeartRadio app and then back to Netflix. Why can't I just just I'm like, look, it's a different device. It's a whole nother scenario. There's always this gap as we sit here now. If you have kids and they're coming up, and I've seen it with my friends and some of my relatives. Kids, they're born with the device in their hand. They're already aware of what this is, or maybe don't have an idea is to giving it a name, to say it's artificial intelligence. But they're born in, living in it and a washing it. Are they feeling stressed? Should they feel stressed? Or is this just as simple and easy for adaptation as it was maybe for us coming up.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a real challenge for parents. That's not just an AI thing. I think that was a result of you know, our social media generation, as content got shorter and faster and in your face right through reels, tiktoks even now LinkedIn and Instagram and you know, all these channels and it's just kind of flowing, and that makes it hard because there's a lot more noise out there. And then throw the AI component on that weaponized you know, social media and now you have content you don't know whether it's real, you don't know whether it's fake, you don't know. You know, why we're so polarized. All those things could probably come back to those those elements, so that that is a hard challenge to counteract that. I would say, you know, we have to slow down a little bit, you know, work fast with technology, but slow down when it comes to the critical thinking, the discernment, those again, those human elements, because that's that's how we're going to have to implement and apply these these tools.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Safer is the director of Artificial Intelligence Strategy, the Perry and Profer Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati Lindner College of Business. AI should help me be able to slow down and enunciate.
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Speaker 3: That would help.
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Speaker 1: What about the issue of understanding what people are going through? You know, in the eighties to the nineties, huge technological change, industry change. Russ belt issues, people, you know, despondency in all the things. As time moves on, we saw people left behind, multi generations dealing with emotional stress, not necessarily balancing back and taking a couple of decades really to even navigate that in some cases where we sit right now in twenty twenty six, I'm curious about the issue of ethics and understanding what is coming because, as you've described it and many others have, what's ahead of us is supposed to be in what we're in the middle of in the early stages, is supposed to be what the most dramatic change in human history and advancement of technology. And that's a lot to deal with, not just hey, an auto industry or something was outsourced overseas, and now how do I have purpose. There's a lot of layers to that.
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Speaker 2: It's complicated and it's a lot to figure out. There are things that we certainly should be scared of in that realm, but there's so many unknowns.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 2: We talked I think on the last time about you know, lower level jobs are getting replaced, right, you know, they're only keeping the higher level, more skilled people. And the problem with that is is where do those highly skilled people come from, right, they come from lower level jobs that are trained up, and so we have to think through that. You know, it's the same thing with coding. You could say, oh, well, don't be a coder because we don't know anybody. You know, we're not going to need the code. Well, where did the computer learn to code?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 2: It didn't learn to code on its own. It learned to code from best practices of people doing it for decades, and so we are the engine that feeds that knowledge and we shouldn't forget that, right, And so yeah, where do we fit in the picture? This is akin to back in the day we had automation that replaced muscles. You know. Now we're at automation trying to replace cognition and it's not there, you know, it's it's getting there, and it's moving, and it's moving very fast. It can do things that are either very domain specific that humans can't do, or it can do generalized things not as well as humans can do. And so that's where we are at the moment. Where we go in the future, you know, people are chasing the idea that a computer will be better at us than everything. At some point, agi artificial general intelligence. I don't know if we'll get there anytime soon, but that is the that is the goal, right, and so in that world, then you really have to think about where we are. That's that's a human race sort of question, right. But I think today we have to think about keeping that human in the loop in some form or fashion, and at least for all of those things I outlined right, just to make sure that we are providing that critical thinking, the problem solving, those things that today are very very important in those processes.
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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, and I really appreciate you you making time, and I hope you'll come back. Jeff Schaeffer, by the way, is the director of AI Strategy and Perry Professor, University of Cincinnat add he's Lendar College of Business. In about a minute or so, is someone's driving around right now, They got the kids in the car coming back from brunch church, whatever else it is that they got going on in this beautiful day in the Tri State. If you like cold weather especially, and you're trying to think of Okay, if I want to get a plan together and I want to start working this, you don't want to stress out. You don't want to be overwhelmed. What's the first thing someone should do if they're looking to try to find a way to get to the next level.
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Speaker 2: How about a fun exercise. How about we use AI to help us answer that question. Go out to many many free resources, Google, Gemini, Chat, GPT, Claude. You can use their free tool and use AI and try it and ask those questions and see if you can formulate a plan. Spend ten or fifteen minutes going back and forth prompting and asking questions like that, what could I do? Where could I go? What about researching? And just give it a try and see what it finds for you, because you'll, I think most people who aren't familiar with that will be amazed as what you could get done and what you could do in fifteen minutes or twenty minutes or thirty minutes. And that would be a way to kind of get your feet wet into something like that. And then maybe go explore some training on this, whether it's at UC at the University of Cincinnati or somewhere else. Go out and look for some classes and say, hey, you know what, I'm going to sit through a few hours of this and see what I can learn. See what I can pick up from that and then see what I can apply back at my job.
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Speaker 3: Give me a solution for my future.
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Speaker 1: It's the right question prompted the right way to the right AI could perhaps be the difference in everything. It's good to talk to you. I appreciate you making time. I hope you enjoyed the rest of your weekend. Jeff Schaeffer, he's the director of AI Strategy, Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati Linder College of Business.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for making time. Take care of yourself, Jeff.
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Speaker 2: We'll check ag in so always great talking with you.
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Speaker 3: Take care of.
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Speaker 1: Yourself straight away. The news more Sterling Home of the Red seven hundred WLW. Maybe get a conversation I have with Kevin Carr about that new movie stuff. That'll be a while to hang out for that.
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Speaker 3: And I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Kind of curious, have you embraced the cold? Have you become acclimated to the cold. We're expecting more snow Tuesday. I know a lot of people in a lot of neighborhoods right now still dealing with snow issues in and around their neighborhood streets and getting out of their driveway is plows that push snow up and piled up, and that continues to be an issue. With the cold. We may see above freezing temperatures. What maybe a day or two this week and then next weekend, maybe if we're lucky. I'm hopeful. I'm always an optimist. Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred the Big One. Tons and tons of people out and about today. I mean, you can't get locked down and be in the house and not go out. I mean, we've got to get stuff, We've got to do things. I know there's a fitness gym kind of place across the road here. Earlier today it was just packed. So people are trying to take care of themselves, trying to make sure they're still getting their exercise in and work that cardio or whatever else. It's not as easy to get out and about and run if that's what you do in this time of year normally. Obviously, my poor dog is still navigating the paths that I carved out in the snow in the yard. He's fifteen pounds of crazy love and stuff. But he was overwhelmed. He walks out of here and he's looking up and he's like the wall of snow is bigger than me, and that's still an issue, and desperately. A tired dog is a good dog from my experience, and he's not getting the exercise he needs, so there may be more shoveling to be doing in and around the yard. To see how that goes. Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred, the big one. I'm wondering how acclimated you've become. This is one of those things where I've seen it. I've noticed it people coming in out of their houses wearing smaller jackets.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just one of those.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin Carr will have a conversation with a little bit later. He wears shorts all year round. I don't know if you're one of those people or not. Everywhere I've ever worked, in any group of friends or circles that I have had, I've noticed that there is at least one par that I know that is all about the shorts all year round. And it's not even always like big oversized people. Sometimes you know there's somebody a little big boned or hefty, whatever you want to call it, larger. Uh, maybe they sort of embrace that. But I've seen it with others and I know there's a difference between coming and going out of the gym or otherwise and doing that. But it's a It's an interesting thing, is we we sort of get to this. I know it's winter, i know it's cold, it's pretty basic stuff. But the acclamation situation is what is weird. And I've never really believed that that would be the case. And I know, being up north in the Minnesota area and the winter in the past, it was one of those after two or three four days, I'd seen everybody in and around there seemingly with the lighter jackets and everything else, and I had the big nook of the Northport parka because I'm coming from here and you know, we're not you to that zero issue under you know, below zero kind of scenario, and people will embrace it and feel it and live it and learn it and get through it. And I guess that's just a matter of keeping it going. But I do know some people that just don't go out. They'll just have everything delivered if they can or otherwise. And who I really feel bad for is those who deliver the mail. It is astounding so many people of you know, you don't necessarily shovel a lot of sidewalks. I see a lot of driveways. Some sidewalks have been cleaned and post to workers, male men, male women. I don't know what the proper term is, letter carriers. I think that's the right thing. Alex again. Yeah, in that circumstance, trying to get get around or whatever else, I mean, they got to sort of trudge through it. And I saw my male guy the other day and I was like, hey, man, he was driving around on his truck.
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Speaker 3: He's like, I'll get to you eventually. I'm like, no, rush man.
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Speaker 1: I tried to clear it for it, and even between the houses, because otherwise it's driveway street or driveway side walk and then back rather than cutting through. It makes the day longer. So I received a bundle of mail that probably was three or four days worth of it, which is fine. Half of it was junk. They filtered out some of it and some was you know, sort of important. But I mean, acclamation, they have no choice. People out there moving snow, law enforcement out there doing their thing. I've seen a number of people pulled over last night, even on the way home after the show. And it's like ten thirty eleven o'clock on motoring on and I see two people pulled over. I don't know what the circumstance. It didn't look like a vehicle problem as much as it was maybe some type of infraction or whatever else. I mean, just imagine how if you're a cop, how motivated you're going to be to get out of your car in single digits a five degree ten degree weather to go give somebody a ticket. If I got to get out, I mean, I listen, I'm no cop. I have friends who were police. I just want to say this. If I have to get out of my car and it's ten degrees or five degrees, and it's not like a major situation right now, I mean, we're toasty and warm, it's twenty one, it's like summertime. All of a sudden it is almost shorts weather. I can feel it. It feels almost like Opening Day. Maybe a slight exaggeration there, but in that circumstance, I think I'm writing every ticket I could possibly write for someone if I've got to get out of my car and it's ten fifteen degrees or less. I mean, because I'm gonna be irritable, I'm gonna be frustrated. I'm gonna be cold, my feet might be getting wet from the slop that's on the ground or the side of the road, depending on the circumstance. And I'm gonna be writing for everything I possibly could.
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's like I'm going to give you a warning.
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Speaker 1: There'd be no warnings if I was the cop who pulled you over in the miserable, evil, bitter, frozen tundra. Kind of cold to the dry state these days. Although today we are going to be around twenty two, which is a nice heat wave, twenty nine tomorrow they say thirty one Tuesday. That's a downgrade. I thought I saw thirty two, so I'm not even sure or when we will see thirty two degrees. How acclimated are you? Are you out about? Are you having fun? Is it still sledding time in and around Eaton Park? I know I saw some people that were having some fun there when I was driving around, which is kind of nice. I used to live right around the corner and used to do some sledding there myself and always found that one part there on the low side of where Mere Lake is, you don't want to end up out in the road, So that's one of those things you always have to to, you know, worry about five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred, the big one, your chance to get interactive, wondering about acclamation situation and how you're getting with it. Other stuff to get to as well, in relation to a whole bunch of stuff. And I've had a bunch of people opinion me saying they want me to talk about the Epstein files again.
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Speaker 3: I'll lay that out there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say it's old news, but I mean there's three million documents. They missed the deadline, and you can certainly sound off. I'm just wondering, are you satisfied because so many people have been like Epstein files, Epstein files, bring them out, and Blanche Wo's the Deputy Attorney General, has stepped up to defend how they've released them. A lot of people who have been found themselves. I guess the docks in some way the victims, which is just mind blowing to me that you know, you don't protect the victim's identity in the midst of this document sharing or dump. And uh, you know there there have been videos and all kinds of other things, and a lot of other redactions. A lot of people's names and stuff that sort of have gone along with what has been released of men that high powerful men you know or thought to have either been I yes, purchasers of quality time whatever you want to call it in the sex trade with these young girls is what they were underage mind her children effectively and then maybe some over the age of eighteen or whatever else. But I mean, I can't imagine a situation. The number one thing that they should be, at least in my opinion, worried about is protecting the victim. So if you're going to release all this information by order or otherwise, how hard would it be, since all this stuff has been digitized, to just do a search for the names that you know are in there, because that would be easily found, one would think, with the help of maybe artificial intelligence, even if you don't, just do a basic search and then you go through and you redact the accuser. Those that have been on the other side of this that was a complaint that we're outing the people who were violating them, whether it's Maxwell who's in a Kushi More country club prison now, or whether it's Epstein, who of course allegedly hung himself while he was in detention in sitting there and Maxwell, of course with some more time, and apparently the president supposedly has been completely exonerated. Now I think I've heard that out there and seen that published, so perhaps that's the case. I want to know how fixated and concerned and worried and engaged and involved you have been in this Epstein thing. I still get inundated with it, and it's not communicated by bots, which is one of those things you always have to sort of look at when you start getting people asking you about stuff. But I'm wondering if you're concerned about the victims, if you were one of those people who decided that this was a lynch pin issue for the last election to bring Trump back to office, are you happy with the way these files have been released, the way this has been moving through the system in processing. Do you think there will be more I have so many questions, will be more people held accountable? Or is this just a lot of nothing. There'll be some docs in and the people will go, well, you don't have any proof of me doing anything else and carry on, Because that really has been some of what has been talked about, and how it's moved through five point three seven four nine seven thousand, eight hundred to the big one talk back the iHeartRadio. You can click on the microphone there. I'm also on x what used to be Twitter for those who are still living in the past, at Stirling Radio. You can get interactive that way as well. It's it's still hard for me to imagine, and you hear it on a local, regional basis regularly in the news. I mean they've had the dateline kind of sting or whatever else it is where they have those people show up in you know, suburban homes where they've been trolled by law enforcement or some other groups of people acting is underage type people out there or somebody looking to sell their company or otherwise, and then they would bust them, like to catch a predator kind of scenario. Now, those people, because they are not of means, because they are not somebody, they're just regular everyday people. They're the ones who lose their career. They're the ones who lose their home life situation. They're the ones who get locked up. They're the ones that are ostracized. They're the ones that you get the card from the Sheriff's office, it says sexual predator in the neighborhood, so you can identify and as you're driving around to go, yeah, okay, keep the kid away from that guy. Kind of scenario. But the level that we're talking about where it engages the President of the United States and the federal government at the highest levels. These individuals around there, I mean, where are they held accountable? Are they going to go in front of Congress and be asked questions?
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Speaker 3: Highly doubtful. What do you think is going to happen as a result of this?
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Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean it almost is seemingly with the exposure of some of these women's names and we know what they've dealt with and including suicide and other stuff, I just kind of look at it and go, it's almost like a distraction. Look over here, pay no attention to other stuff that's going on. Nothing's going to really happen with it. Probably maybe government's partially shut down. They have other stuff to worry about, right, They got to get the government fully open again. They got to worry about other things. This seems six million pieces of paper, that's a lot to review, thousands and thousands of videos, tens of thousands of images, and that's what they were required to go through. That's what they were required to release, and they still held back apparently for ongoing or pending investigation whatever that means. It's hard to say. It's a vague kind of description or whatever else, and you kind of look at it and go okay. So now that these files are out there, who benefits not the exposed victim or the accuser. Maybe not the exposed person who was in the list, who was there socially somehow entertaining some type of whatever relation to ship with Epstein and hanging out of these supposed parties or whatever they happen to be. But I don't see the upside to any of this at this point. I mean, are you satisfied? Is this an issue of all the issues you worry about it? I mean, you worry about the economy, You worry about national security, right, you worry Maybe in national security can be border issues, can be you know, illegal immigration issues. It can be an issue of all kinds of criminal stuff that goes on. Where does this fall if five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred, the Big One Quick Break, Sterling hanging out Nation Station seven hundred. Wow, Remember the album. I mean, you can still stream an album in its entirety at the iHeartRadio app. You can go buy some my you know albums on vinyl or CD if you care to, I mean vinyls come back. Jack White even bought a record plan if I'm not mistaken, so he's pressing those and if you don't know who he is from the White Stripes, of course, he's been doing it for quite a while now and thinking about the best albums of all time that you I mean, you're having a little fun. You have put it on and you're like, you know what, I don't have to hit next. I don't have to skip a track, you don't have to go Okay, here's three good songs on an album with ten songs and the other seven or a bunch of just filler or whatever else that goes along with that. I still think the ACDC Back in Black album is probably one of the best of all time front to back that there's ever been. I love London Calling from the Clash. I know these are some older records or whatever else that go along with that.
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Speaker 3: What is it?
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Speaker 1: A good Kid, Mad City Kendrick Lamar that's more contemporary and stuff that's sort of god gone along with that as well. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred, the Big One. I'm kind of wondering what it is that sort of goes along with that concept of is full album front to back your favorite when you put that playlist in you go to the gym, and it could be.
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Speaker 3: I mean you sometimes you have a.
00:32:38
Speaker 1: Playlist that's a mixture of stuff, your hits for whatever it is.
00:32:42
Speaker 3: But I still like Jane's addiction.
00:32:44
Speaker 1: Nothing shocking front to back an incredible album that sort of goes along with that soul whole concept of that too. Johnny Cash, who a whole generation and now maybe into the second generation of people who have become fans after he had started forever and ever ago. He's even been gone for quite a while for that matter. But those American recordings he did going back a good number of years now, uh, you know, covering Sound Garden, doing a ton of other records that sort of go along with that, and working with Rick Rubin sort of brought a lot of other people into the fold to see exactly what he was about. And that live record of his that he did at fulsome Prison had me as a kid I'll tell you. I thought he had really been locked up and done a stretch someplace for something, because it just seemed like that was the case. And then my mom and then my uncle too were like, no, no, he was never locked up. He just understand that's why he where's black. And then of course they were like, here, listen to this, and I disappeared into my room and I put the earbuds in or the headphones on and was like, okay, I got it, and now I understand five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight hundred to a big one having a little fun on a Sunday after noon, Sterling, Let's get to college. He'll job be first. We got a mic and a'brian and a JT and love to hear from you as well. Albums front to back that you don't have to hit skip, you don't have to you go. Oh, I can't believe they put I paid. However, that was the thing. Is a kid that used to drive you nuts. I'd ride my bike down and dating to second time around or my buddies and I would drive down to everybody's records here and you'd go through and you'd look for you stuff or new and sometimes you didn't know. It's like, well, this guy wrote this song and played on this and that's at least how I went from one thing to another with music. And then you get at home or you'd listen and then you go, well, that's cool song. That's a cool song, and then you'd go, what's the rest of this? And it was like, well, they had to put an album out. I guess joby, it's your turn with Sterling on the Big One. Hey, what do you have?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 5: Well, real briefly here i'd have to say to who and Who's next?
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Speaker 3: Oh tremendous, O'Reilly and m's really well there it really does.
00:34:58
Speaker 1: Who made a bunch of incredible music? And I know that at one point they had I think they'd retired a couple of times over the years, and still, you know, just until recent years, have been out there doing it. So yeah, I think Who's Next is tremendous. That's a great choice. Uh five point three seven, four nine, eight hundred The Big One. Let's uh get to Cincinnati's JT was Stirling on the Big One, j T, what do you have?
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Speaker 7: Hey?
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Speaker 8: I have the Beatles White Album, I have Abby Road, I have the BAC Boys Licensed to.
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Speaker 3: Ill tremendous and I have you know run DMC.
00:35:36
Speaker 8: I can go on and on, but led Zeppelin two, leb Zeplam four.
00:35:43
Speaker 1: Now see, I think Zeppelin three is one of their best and underrated and just sort of overlooked.
00:35:47
Speaker 3: For somewhat reason. Don't you love Zeppelin three?
00:35:51
Speaker 2: I do too.
00:35:52
Speaker 8: I wasn't gonna say it because I want to. I don't want to come across on air like I'm some sort of believest.
00:35:57
Speaker 1: But oh wait, I know now I'm an elitist, don't know, but no Beast Boys Licensed to Ill?
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Speaker 8: Like I can recite that entire album. I won't do it for you now, but from beginning to end for all sixty seven point three four minutes.
00:36:16
Speaker 3: There you go. That's tremendous.
00:36:18
Speaker 2: JT.
00:36:18
Speaker 3: Thank you, my man. I appreciate the call.
00:36:19
Speaker 1: It the wide Oak and Mike was sterling on the Big One talking about albums that are good front to back. You don't have to skip any tracks. You're like, no, this is a work of brilliance, Mike.
00:36:28
Speaker 3: What do you have.
00:36:30
Speaker 5: Another?
00:36:30
Speaker 2: Vote for?
00:36:31
Speaker 6: Who's Next? By the Who?
00:36:33
Speaker 3: Hard to go wrong with them.
00:36:35
Speaker 8: But the one song that is not good enough Love was not even written by Townsend, not sung by Roger.
00:36:41
Speaker 9: Daltrey, but John Intwistle wrote in song and sang my wife, and that's definitely a song that I just crank it up to eleven and my son and I he's thirty five. We both went up to Madison Square Garden to see him play their last concert.
00:36:55
Speaker 3: How was that at the gardens?
00:36:57
Speaker 6: It was It was great. You didn't want it to end.
00:37:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so great.
00:37:01
Speaker 6: It was sad, yeah, playing the last song, but it was great.
00:37:04
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. What an amazing thing.
00:37:05
Speaker 1: When you think about what was the Cincinnati Gardens, then you think about Madison Square Garden, Mike, I appreciate the call. Madison Square Garden with a bunch of boxing over the weekend. They had to warn people about brawling. And then there was the whole two pay thing, which I'll get into later, which sounds like a big time like a wrestling kind of scenario. You had a title bout and the guy with the two pay in the ring. Why wouldn't you just go in there with your head shaved and go to work and got that two paid knocked off? Which is just one of the best things ever. I mean, it's not, but it is. And then they were nice enough. And I actually heard Ken mention this too. Somebody or a group of people would ever grab that dead animal skin whatever it is on the guy's head and tossed it back to him so we could go get that glue and get it back attached to his dome, which is pretty wild to pick what and Fred was Sterling on seven hundred WLW, what's your favorite or top albums that are front to back the just Unstoppable.
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Speaker 4: He's always enjoyed listening the whole album Tress ham.
00:38:03
Speaker 5: Braised by Zzy Top.
00:38:06
Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah, always rid songs, absolutely, Arro.
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Speaker 10: Smith out of my like is I like the Rocks album?
00:38:13
Speaker 3: Yeah?
00:38:13
Speaker 1: Rocks is tremendous, you know, and Done with Mirrors is pretty okay, but I mean it's certainly not quite the same as the other two, that's for sure, but that's tremendous.
00:38:22
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
00:38:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, And of course you know ac DC, you know, back in Black. And I also like the first live Kiss.
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Speaker 3: Album, oh yeah, to cover.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's how a lot of us ended up sort of like getting into that Kiss army kind of thing. Was that the first record and then you kind of like, you know, and going for there too, Fred, I appreciate the call man, thank you if I've went three seven, four, nine, eight hundred, the big one. Looking for a favorite albums front the back that are just a flat out unstoppable, Uh, that you don't have to deal with anything. Oh this is nice. Price Hill marks his system of a down steal this album. Yeah, that's pretty strong. A good call there. I appreciate you getting interactive that way at Sterling Radio. By the way, on x you can do it too. To Waynesville where they had that Souerkrapt festival and it's usually much warmer than now. So Dale, how's everything? What do you have for us?
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Speaker 10: I hate doing pretty good sunshining here, so you know, but it's still cold.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: Well, it's warmed up. I mean it is almost shorts weather. I mean it's twenty three now here, so I mean I'm feeling like it's summer. We should be mowing the grass a great American ball park and getting ready for ending day.
00:39:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, buddy, well I look forward to this. I retired where I was cutting steel with torches. Oh, so I really looked forward to coldad So.
00:39:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean doing that, I had a buddy of Mine's father used to work at a still plant there between here and Dayton, and he used to talk about how just unreasoned, like it was hotter than hades, is what he'd say.
00:39:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, buddy, fifteen twenty degrees hotter inside the shop than it was outside.
00:39:49
Speaker 3: Wow, in the summertime. That'll get to you. What do you have album wise? Like a favorite to you?
00:39:55
Speaker 10: I'm stuck on two yeah, you know, and it's kind of tough of my age here, but a lot of revival Cosmos Factory. Oh and uh, you know, just just great music, you know. And uh uh the other uh that that can't be beaten as far as the music and the vocals and everything like.
00:40:14
Speaker 3: That is Eagle's greatest hits. Man, there you go and.
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Speaker 1: See and I'm on the fence, I gotta tell you, Dale, And I wondered about this before I got into the topic. And this comes around usually do this once or twice a year, and uh, I always kind of go, does the greatest hits album count? Because it is already greatest hits? But I mean it does it just brutalizes you, smacks you in the head. Boy, love this, You're gonna love this more, gonna love that more, I know.
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Speaker 10: But you know, front to back, you know who you talk about.
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Unstoppable, We'll have.
00:40:47
Speaker 10: Yeah, most albums will have two hits and the rest of them just kind of there.
00:40:51
Speaker 1: That's right, filler, you got it. That's the thing. And in times are different now you don't have to worry about the filler. Dale, Thanks for the call, man. Maybe we'll run into you, uh at the this Outkraut Fest at some point. Buddies of mine used to go down there and work that when I was a kid. We're actually my buddy's kids who are now grown now. So I'm showing my age a little bit to Richmond, Indiana, wondering a little bit in the land of John Mellencamp of course, and not too far from there. And dar Jim Scott too. Ian what's going on? You were sterling on the.
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Speaker 11: Big One, Good afternoon. I want to throw two albums at you. One would be Hysteria by Death Leppard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah strong.
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Speaker 11: I don't think anyone pays attention to just how many great songs came off of that. Yes, and I guess it's for kind of the greatest hits. But I always was partial a legend by Bob Marley.
00:41:36
Speaker 1: Oh, how do you go wrong with Bob Marley? Just in general? Yeah, I'm totally with you there.
00:41:41
Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you for your time, man, every great day.
00:41:44
Speaker 1: Appreciate you listening, man, Thank you. Okay computer Elizabeth doesn't say where she's from. Just Elizabeth said, okay, computer, that's Radiohead. She didn't even put Radiohead, but I know what that is. That's going back to the nineties, my time at Channel ZO before Kiss became Kiss South Lebanon. Carl with Sterling on the Big One. What do you have best album front to back that you can think of? That's you and it's me too on the Big One.
00:42:08
Speaker 3: What's going on?
00:42:09
Speaker 4: Carl?
00:42:09
Speaker 3: You're talking to Sterling? Hold on, Hey, how are you.
00:42:14
Speaker 2: Okay?
00:42:15
Speaker 7: So I've got I've got two albums and any gritty dark bands?
00:42:18
Speaker 6: Will the Circle be Unbroken?
00:42:20
Speaker 7: Which introduced bluegrass to the mainstream.
00:42:23
Speaker 5: Oh, and by Fleetwood Mac.
00:42:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to go wrong with the Mac, that's for sure. You know, I wasn't around. I mean, I may have been a Hatchling at that point, but one of those things coming up and I heard this, I don't know if it's true that at one point and this is a bad thing.
00:42:38
Speaker 3: Just just sort of share.
00:42:39
Speaker 1: But I guess Stevie Nick couldn't it doesn't see so well and may or may not have been a little bit, uh, you know, keyed up for the show. Apparently the allegation is that she walked off a stage, couldn't see because of the spotlight or whatever else.
00:42:52
Speaker 3: Do you know what that's true?
00:42:54
Speaker 6: I do not.
00:42:55
Speaker 2: I do not.
00:42:56
Speaker 1: I just think of that being a horrible nightmare scenario. And she's a small, little wi thing. I I mean, that would be a it's not an easy fall.
00:43:04
Speaker 3: I just told that would be horrible.
00:43:06
Speaker 2: That would be horrible.
00:43:07
Speaker 1: It certainly all right, man, I just thought i'd ask you. Maybe you might have been aware and around a little bit longer than I'd been.
00:43:13
Speaker 3: Carl.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call me and thank you for listening to being a part of the show. Let's get to Florence and Todd with Sterling on the big one. What do you have best album? Front to back?
00:43:22
Speaker 12: I would go with Van Halen's debut album nineteen seventy from nineteen seventy eight, Oh Hard titled Yeah Yeah, great songs absolutely, Or I would go with nineteen nineteen eighty four. That's a great one to Both of those albums have sold in excess of ten million copies.
00:43:36
Speaker 3: Yeah that's massive. Yeah, that's huge.
00:43:38
Speaker 12: The greatest thing to me, The greatest thing to me about van Halen is their music is fun. You know, they're like hard rock for not heavy metal with their hard rock, but their music's fun.
00:43:48
Speaker 11: Man.
00:43:48
Speaker 1: Now, did you like van Hagar with Sammy fronting the Man? Because I loved both. But it was an either or thing when I was a kid coming up. People were very passionate and very hateful, even on the Sam and Dave tour that they did, which they didn't exactly along for some reason.
00:44:02
Speaker 12: I like Van Hagar because Eddy van Halen's playing the guitar, but the music was definitely different. My favorite is the original lineup.
00:44:09
Speaker 3: I gotcha. I don't disagree.
00:44:10
Speaker 1: I mean this, there was no bigger album at all at this point.
00:44:14
Speaker 3: I mean it was everywhere and you.
00:44:15
Speaker 1: Were like a lot of people are like synthesizers and van Halen that's sacrilege. But people started to love it then. And I love the Balance album with Sammy Hagar from the mid nineties. I thought that was strong too. In hell that's thirty years ago, Todd. I appreciate the call, and there's a lot of stuff in between that for that matter too.
00:44:32
Speaker 3: Oh, this is nice. We got a balance here between.
00:44:35
Speaker 1: Calls and people on social At Sterling Radio on X this is nice, Marvin says, Kanye's My Beautiful, dark, Twisted Fantasy.
00:44:46
Speaker 3: That is a great album. But Kanye, I mean, he's had some issues.
00:44:53
Speaker 1: Let's just say the music is amazing, but sometimes you should just shut the hell up. But people have told me that too, So you know what. I can't everything against the guy, but some of what he said has sort of taken me a bit personally. Let's get to Mason and Brett. We got Rick and Jim. Where are the women on this? I know your music lovers to front to back best album, Brett, what do you have with Sterling on the big one?
00:45:13
Speaker 13: Well, I got something a little unique for you. So it's an album and a movie. So if you listen to Kink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon, which is a great album on its own, all the way through, yes, and you think it with Wizard of Oz it is absolutely incredible. Now you run those boat all the way through.
00:45:34
Speaker 2: To the end.
00:45:35
Speaker 3: Here's my question, and take no offense to this. Please.
00:45:38
Speaker 1: Is it better after visiting the dispensary or no?
00:45:43
Speaker 13: Well that's a requirement.
00:45:44
Speaker 3: Okay. I just wondered. Again, I'm not judging. I just wondered.
00:45:48
Speaker 1: I remember them all right, fair enough, Brett. I appreciate the call. Anything else before I let you bounce? I had somebody just a message me said, I hung up too soon, and then they came back at me with another Johnny Cash record. Anything else before I let you go?
00:46:00
Speaker 4: No?
00:46:01
Speaker 6: No, I think I think that's it.
00:46:03
Speaker 13: I think there's probably too many to mention. And I do want to mention though, that when we were kids, I think we listen to albums all the way through more than we.
00:46:10
Speaker 2: Do now, especially you know what I mean.
00:46:12
Speaker 13: I think the quality of music was better, probably, and we just there wasn't that many things to listen to, so you really took the time to do it.
00:46:18
Speaker 1: I think I wonder what it's like in that situation. And I appreciate the call Brett as an artist, as a creator, someone who is writing the music and orchestrating it, and you know, coming together with these ideas and making them. So I wonder in some fashion because a lot of artists now just because of the way the businesses are putting out, you know, one song at a time and then maybe a collection of songs after that and touring that way, because that's got to be different, just as the way you approach it and going along with that. But my friend's kids, and I'm talking like little kids, middle school, you know, maybe not some of them, some into high school. And then they seem to come back around and they're telling me that they're finding all this old stuff, a lot of the stuff I played when it was Channel Z and and still listening to EBN but embracing the album. So maybe, like a lot of stuff, it just keeps coming back around. We'll see how that goes. Let's get to Tim and then we got Randy and Rick and others with Stirling on seven hundred WLW.
00:47:14
Speaker 3: What do you have?
00:47:15
Speaker 6: Tim?
00:47:16
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, you got me?
00:47:17
Speaker 3: There, I gotcha, you got me?
00:47:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:47:20
Speaker 14: Good Days of Future pass Days of Future passed.
00:47:24
Speaker 5: By the Moody BLUESO and I you know, be.
00:47:28
Speaker 14: A set that probably Dark Side of the Moon too, but that Day's of Future past. One song moves to the other so elegantly. You know, it's all fits together, and in fact, at my funeral, I planned to have this music played for the people who were waiting, you know, for the funeral.
00:47:46
Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, see, I hadn't really thought ahead about orchestrating, you know, the soundtrack to my passing and send off, But you're thinking ahead, Tim.
00:47:56
Speaker 3: That's tremendous. Thank you, man.
00:47:57
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. It took me a minute. It sort of shook me. But I know others who have done that. I mean, I don't know how many times I've heard a Skinner's Freebird at somebody's wake or visitation or something along those lines, or some type of celebration of life scenarios. So I mean, I know that kind of thing happens, that is for sure.
00:48:16
Speaker 2: Man.
00:48:16
Speaker 1: What about like all the I mean, there's so many like James Brown songs and Bootsy Collins still making relevant music to this point, I mean, all the name is Bootsy Baby, I mean, seriously tremendous album that was. I was barely here at that point, but I've got a copy. That's one of those I bought.
00:48:35
Speaker 3: Used.
00:48:35
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a bunch of those, I mean, and Bootsy's done everything, just tremendous Randy again in the Hoosier Land, happy with your national champion football team.
00:48:44
Speaker 3: I don't listen.
00:48:45
Speaker 1: I know this is an aside and not why you called my whole life almost Indiana football was like a guaranteed win for anybody who played them. How in shock are you that the Hoosiers are national champs?
00:48:58
Speaker 4: Card shocks a Tennessee from Rockville.
00:49:02
Speaker 11: So I got you.
00:49:04
Speaker 6: You're talking about how good they are?
00:49:06
Speaker 3: Now got you?
00:49:07
Speaker 2: Yeah?
00:49:07
Speaker 5: Man?
00:49:09
Speaker 3: Are Tim mcgeeze like, thank you for loving the balls?
00:49:11
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure?
00:49:11
Speaker 13: What do you have?
00:49:12
Speaker 3: I know that's not why you call it.
00:49:14
Speaker 2: I got it.
00:49:14
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I appreciate you asking though, Thanks for taking my call.
00:49:17
Speaker 3: Ye man.
00:49:18
Speaker 6: I got a couple of not so well known artists. One of mine is Gary Moore. Oh sure, he's one of the greatest blues guitarists wherever was.
00:49:28
Speaker 3: Absolutely the album is called Are Still About the Blues?
00:49:33
Speaker 4: And then I've got another one. This lady is fantastic. If you've never seen her, report her name is Samantha Fish.
00:49:40
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, uh killer be kind her album. She's up for a Grammy Award tonight too.
00:49:46
Speaker 1: That's nice, very cool, Randy, Thank you, that's relevant. I mean and you think about Gary Moore, I mean thin Lizzie. Of course, how good were they in the skid Row? And of course the Gary Moore band tremendous, Jim and Tony and Rick others. Hang on, we'll keep this going a little there's more ground to cover.
00:50:01
Speaker 6: Uh.
00:50:02
Speaker 1: We got Kevin Carr a little bit later talking movie stuff and maybe some more artificial intelligence, because while my intelligence is limited and the artificial kind is what's gonna keep us going and move us to the next level, next level. Thank you Alex again making it sound good doing what you do. Sandy Collins got you one third of your ports straight away where the Reds play. Hey, we are just a little less than a month away, the twenty seventh of February. I'll be behind this microphone handing it off to Tommy Thraw and the Cowboy as Red's Baseball begins in the desert, and they'll be going to get to work in less than a month going at it obviously won't be long because we're the home of the Rets. News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
00:50:46
Speaker 3: Hears for fears. I think, weren't they just on.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: The road in the last couple of years they were yeah, Alex Eagan, of course producing this is one of your picks. This is one of your favorite albums. It is, I would say Songs from the Big Chair is Yeah, is a big one for me.
00:50:58
Speaker 3: Now, both others.
00:50:59
Speaker 1: You've seen those videos, right, and hey, how you doing At Sterling seven hundred WLW, we've been talking about the albums CDs front the back like just you don't turn them off, you don't hit skip. You're like, no, this is a perfect playlist as it is, as it was made by these artists. But the videos for that, I always like, Man, those guys have the biggest and brightest teeth I've ever seen. Yes, it's just one of those things. I'm like, holy crap, I got to get to the dentist now. It's kind of a weird thing. A bunch of people been getting interactive at Sterling Radio one X talking about this too, Kat King, I think it's Stuart not and some random numbers there on X. You can follow along he has or she I'm assuming it's a heats is Ted Nugent's Double Lot Gonzo. Yeah, that's huge. Dugent's still out there doing it. He's like one hundred and twenty six years old, still touring from time to time, a lot of state fares over the years, and still getting it done.
00:51:50
Speaker 3: Five three.
00:51:53
Speaker 1: Big, and we've done this for a little while, but people seem to be interested. Normally i'd turned the topic, so we will layer in other stuff. But as you call as, so we get in more interactivity. Let's just say you can mention your favorite album like that, and then we'll go on to other stuff too. Okay, five point three seven four nine, seven, eight hundred, the big one. You can pick up the phone, give it the finger, like my good friend who's no longer with this, mister K used to say, talk back the iHeartRadio app as well. A few people also getting interactive. I don't know if if Alex's screening phone calls. People are still going nuts for this, do you know what it is? I think we're all stir crazy because of the weather and the cold, and now it almost feels like summer and shorts weather. It's let me see, I'm going to refresh the Yeah, it's still twenty three, which still feels fantastic. Soundgarden's super Unknown. I had a couple of people mentioned that that's tremendous. I still like the Bad motor Finger album, Nirvana's in Utero still staying in the Seattle area overall, Alice and Change had some people mentioned that the Dirt record as well. So I mean, see, I'm showing my age when I say record, right, that's kind of odd, but it is true to Milford and Jim was sterling on seven hundred WLW, what's going on?
00:53:02
Speaker 15: What do you have?
00:53:03
Speaker 2: Where's all the women? I know?
00:53:06
Speaker 5: I don't know.
00:53:07
Speaker 6: I do know that it's all dominated by men calling up.
00:53:11
Speaker 3: I can't control who calls. I don't know. Find a woman in your life and have her call me.
00:53:16
Speaker 2: I I am.
00:53:16
Speaker 3: I cannot forcibly make anyone pick up the phone. I don't know. I feel that way too. I feel like they don't love us. Now it's hurtful.
00:53:23
Speaker 2: Do they not like listen to albums?
00:53:25
Speaker 6: Do they just interested in other? Thanks?
00:53:28
Speaker 1: That's not why I called thank you, But now I have to have that bouncing around in my head as well.
00:53:33
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you?
00:53:34
Speaker 5: Right?
00:53:35
Speaker 3: What else do you have?
00:53:35
Speaker 2: You?
00:53:37
Speaker 6: Yes, there's nine on one two five.
00:53:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:53:40
Speaker 9: In fact, I'd go to go on to say that leave It a cappella is like the greatest acapella song ever.
00:53:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just about what from eighty four maybe eighty four, eighty four, eighty four, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:53:55
Speaker 3: One I have is Sergeant Pepper's hard to go that.
00:53:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is just remember you know, as a kid, my mom played the Beatles constantly in the house, and uh, and I think it was a rebellion thing. Yeah, absolutely, but at the time it became annoying to me. So then I was searching for something else. I was like, yeah, I'll get it. The Beatles. They're great, but it was one of those I wanted to find my own thing, and so it was like, Okay, here's the Stones, here's this, here's that. And then I came back to the Beatles and was like, okay, Mom, you're absolutely right. They are tremendous.
00:54:27
Speaker 6: So what the women need to call in?
00:54:29
Speaker 5: What?
00:54:30
Speaker 2: What the heck's going on?
00:54:31
Speaker 1: Here's one now by the way, and I think I can't I can't pronounce it, but it is Elena or something. She says, Pete Jorn, So, uh, there any Pete Orn album? I guess I don't know all of them, So there you go, Jim. I appreciate the call. Yeah, I liked the band yas tremendous. Uh, and they were just here, weren't they? Did they play the Memorial Hall and OTR or something like that, And I was wanting to go, and I was sort of confused on the scheduling. I think they were doing a handful of like shows in the States and that was one of those places. If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, I wish I could have gone. I feel bad. I saw him at what was the Crown at the time, or maybe it was still the Coliseum back in the nineties. I remember my buddies and I we drove down here and they were just astounding. The band, Yes, was tremendous. To hebron and Tony was stirling on seven hundred w L double. You're talking about the greatest albums of all time.
00:55:23
Speaker 5: Hey man, Hey, how's it going.
00:55:26
Speaker 3: It's good, it's good. Where are the women, though? I'd like to know.
00:55:28
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing wrong with you, Tony or Alan or Don or Rick coming up, but I'm now starting to feel like there's a problem.
00:55:34
Speaker 3: I mean, I love you dudes, but where are the women? I mean serious, I'm with you, And you know what, I.
00:55:38
Speaker 2: Thought of a second one while while I was waiting and it's a woman singer. Maybe it' step in the right direction with with me. It's Shannis Joplin. Yeah, just like the Pearl. I mean, it's just cool. Like every song on Pearl is at least pretty good. I don't think I've ever hit skip when listening to it. I mean, so that's a good one.
00:55:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's impressed stepping.
00:56:00
Speaker 2: We did need some more women colors. But the first one I thought I was calling is Appetite for Destruction.
00:56:05
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that is one of those, you know, And what a great window of time that is between the Appetite for Destruction mechanical residents from Tesla. I mean that window of time right his stuff was shifting was just.
00:56:18
Speaker 5: Amazing, incredible, incredible, Yeah, it was, it was.
00:56:23
Speaker 2: It was the best eighties, that's h That's the reason I signed up for the Columbia Record House.
00:56:28
Speaker 3: Dude, I did that a bunch of times.
00:56:30
Speaker 1: And I remember heroll date me, Alex Egan is producing, is going to stroke out when I say this. I when they transitioned to CDs and I was still having cassettes, I joined all those record clubs and kept getting the introductory because I didn't want to buy a CD player with my Putt Putt Earning money and hair Arena money and not and not be.
00:56:48
Speaker 3: Able to play it.
00:56:49
Speaker 1: It was like, what So I bought a whole bunch of CDs before I got the Kenwood CD player, because I mean, what would be the point, you know, right? So, yeah, beautiful Tony. I appreciate the call me thank you. And then of course the CDs ended up at one time or another and people are embracing those again. They sort of turned into like a Christmas tree or Hanka bush, you know, ornament because they're nice and shining. Yeah, exactly, Alex knows to Western Hills and Rick, and then we got Don and Jim and Allen and still no women calling. I'm gonna have to put the kibosh on this topic because I feel like the women are We don't want to alienate the women.
00:57:23
Speaker 3: We want to bring the women into the fold. Rick, what do you have?
00:57:26
Speaker 2: Hi? Well, I like Neil Young Russ never sleeps for men.
00:57:31
Speaker 5: The song sail Away on there.
00:57:32
Speaker 2: I think it's great. And then I wasn't gonna say.
00:57:34
Speaker 15: Dark Side of the Moon, but I was thinking about it. Obscured by Clouds, the album that came out before Dark Side of the Moon.
00:57:41
Speaker 2: That's really good.
00:57:42
Speaker 15: That's that's got a bunch of really nice songs on it. And the last one was Bruce Springsteen, the one with thunder Road on there.
00:57:47
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like that one.
00:57:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, Springsteen's pretty amazing. And that's another one of those. And I may sound obnoxious about it, Rick, I appreciate the call. But as a kid, Springsteen everybody talked about as being and again, I think it's that anti establishment rebellion teenager kind of vibe. I knew a lot of people's parents were like, Springsteen's the Boss. You gotta love Springsteen. And I'm like, yeah, enough already, you know fine, I wanted something else and then I came back and was like, oh, these are really incredible songs. And so no disrespect, I mean all all the hats off to Springsteen doing what he does. What where's a Jim Jim here with Sterling on Metamora?
00:58:27
Speaker 3: There you go? Was Stirling on seven hundred WLW Jim.
00:58:29
Speaker 7: What do you have? Man?
00:58:31
Speaker 2: Yeah?
00:58:31
Speaker 7: Good anthnoon staring Hey.
00:58:33
Speaker 16: First off off, say at DC back in black Yes, and uh big fan got to see them live in the lat the Buddhicon in Tokyo, Japan.
00:58:42
Speaker 3: Oh, you're kidding.
00:58:43
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen so many videos and heard so many albums from Cheap Tricks to on and on and on about the Budicon.
00:58:50
Speaker 3: What was it like to be in that building.
00:58:52
Speaker 16: It's very strange to be whether Japanese audience or predominantly Japanese because they're so quiet. And Angus gave him a good talking to and then he got a little rowdy, but great, great venue it was.
00:59:07
Speaker 11: It was quite a lot.
00:59:07
Speaker 2: I was in the Navy station over there.
00:59:09
Speaker 10: We had a great time, so loved that.
00:59:12
Speaker 16: The second album I would say is Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd. And then finally one that nobody has mentioned or a group anything by the Moody Blues.
00:59:23
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Moody Glues Crank Pretty grow too. Yeah, that's pretty strong, Jim. I appreciate it.
00:59:26
Speaker 6: Call you know what.
00:59:27
Speaker 1: And I don't know now so much with the change and the way people are consuming entertainment in music in some cases, but for the longest time, every single year ac DC's Back in Black record was selling like a million copies. I don't know if people wore them out or what was happening, But I mean it was just a year after year they were just going thank you, thanks for the money check, thanks for the deposit. It was tremendous, Jim, I appreciate the call. And that sort of worked the same way with some of the skinnered stuff too. I mean, just million records, because you know what it is, it's about the songs. They are incredibly well written, relatable songs that an emotional visceral level and whether it's and this one's nice too, this is for Mark, and Oakley says, what about the Diary of Alicia Keys and that goes back to the early two thousands, and what an amazing record and what a talented woman she still is out there doing it too. It's it's just tremendous to Preble County, Don. And then Alan was Sterling on seven hundred WLW, what's going on?
01:00:27
Speaker 14: Don?
01:00:28
Speaker 6: Hey Sterling?
01:00:29
Speaker 17: Hey, well you guys been stealing my thunder on Pink Floyd. I definitely agree with that, but really a couple others, the Almond Brothers Live at the film More East. Sure you don't need any other album by the Almond Brothers if you have that, and the Door is La.
01:00:44
Speaker 3: Woman, Yeah, also nice man. I love the doors. That's tremendous stuff. It is amazing.
01:00:49
Speaker 1: Well do you remember the first record you bought her? Album or CD, cassette, whatever.
01:00:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was The Yardbirds.
01:00:57
Speaker 3: Okay, very cool, very first The Yardbirds.
01:01:00
Speaker 17: Man, it was pretty good. That's pretty good. Speaking of the Arbord, something else most people don't know, John Mayle an album called wake Up Call. He's been around, he's been around forever, but he's about Yeah.
01:01:14
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I agree with he's not quite that old. But no, I totally got you done. I appreciate the call Me My Male. It's fantastic. Yeah, that's great. And Allison's changed stuff. I mean, that whole vibe changed me. I mean the Dirt record unbelievable. In Marnie, I think I'm saying that correctly, Marne Marnee, yeah, uh says Alana's is jagged little pill, tremendous. And then that was again the middle nineties, right in that sweet spot with a lot of stuff, middle late and it was in ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, somewhere in there, a tremendous record, song after song after song, and I think, if I'm not mistaken, she started on like a kids show too. At some point to Brown County and Allen was Sterling on seven hundred WLW.
01:01:57
Speaker 7: He's Sterling and great show, great topic.
01:02:00
Speaker 3: Thank you man.
01:02:00
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
01:02:01
Speaker 7: So I got h I got three kids, and once they hit about fourteen, they started, you know, kind of getting interested in dad's music, you know, riding around, playing stuff in the car and whatnot. And one one kid in particular, really got into it, started getting real curious. I said, look, this is like, uh, this is like hard rock one oh one.
01:02:23
Speaker 2: You got to listen to.
01:02:24
Speaker 7: Queen's Reich Operation mind Crime. Now it's not a fun it's it all flows like one long song because it's like a rock opera, correct, But uh, the entire thing from start to finish is must listen. And it's because of Jeff Tate. The vocalist is just clinically or you know, like just uh, just a whole different animal as far as vocals go.
01:02:49
Speaker 2: So that's my choice.
01:02:50
Speaker 1: That's that's tremendous. And Alan, I got to tell you, I appreciate the call. Jeff Tate actually is coming and he's doing that Operation mind Crime album so called Final Chapter back to back, and here's an amazing thing. And you'll be here at the Tap on the fifteenth of May, and then he'll drive up seventy five to seventy and go to Hubert Heights and just outside Dayton and he'll do it there at the Rose Music Center. So that's tremendous. I have an embarrassing story, Alan, I appreciate the call. It's going back to about ninety eight, I think somewhere in that window, Quaint Trayke was playing the Gardens and I had to take care of some business for the radio station and went and one I was going to the show as well, and I had to deal with the getting stuff signed for, like auction for EBN or whatever. And I'm hanging out there and I'm seeing the guys, and I'm there with a date. She's hanging out with me, and a buddy of mine goes hey. And a lot of times you get a chance and get spoiled. You can sometimes watch the show from the side of the stage or whatever else. I mean, you know, it's just one of those things, and they're okay, you just get over here. And then they rushed us onto the stage because that tour they had a bar that was set up on the stage as they were working and doing it, and it was the most embarrassing thing in the other They wanted us to get up and dance after sitting at the bar. I don't know if anybody it was a big crowd, so I know a lot of people were there, but she was so petrified and horrified of the circumstance. And I didn't want to be on stage. I'm not there.
01:04:30
Speaker 3: Nobody paid to see me. I just wanted to see Queen's Right work.
01:04:34
Speaker 1: So that is a memory that I will never forget in relation to the great band of Queen's Right and Jeff Take going to be in town come may.
01:04:40
Speaker 3: So thanks for the call.
01:04:41
Speaker 1: That's great, fantastic calls in this Normally I just do one segment, but it was overwhelming and.
01:04:47
Speaker 3: Not enough women getting interacted to.
01:04:49
Speaker 1: And here's from psy Coolnessness or since the coolestness on ex Jim Body says Sterling Lord's album Melodrama best album of my lifetime nominated, It was for a Grammy and should have won Graceland by Paul Simon also up there too. Yeah, Jim, I cannot disagree quite break. Come back your two o'clock report coming up sooner than later, and I'll ask you this too about the issue of artificial intelligence. Conversation I had with the director of AI Strategy and the Perry Professor at the University of Cincinnati's Lendinger College of Business gonna be on after the two thirty report, So hang out. In less than an hour, we'll talk about the future are of AI and how you and your kids and I can stay relevant, employable, earning and having purpose in life as II in a very short amount of time is going to drastically change the way we live in the world in which we observe and try to walk on a regular basis.
01:05:46
Speaker 6: Hang out.
01:05:47
Speaker 1: There's more sterling coming up on seven hundred WLW Sunday, isn't It is hard to keep track for some reason. Then Shawn's Mike Song, Sewan there is he's here now, Sean McMahon hanging out.
01:06:02
Speaker 3: Russ Jackson here producing as well.
01:06:05
Speaker 1: Later on conversation about the future and AI Director of AI Strategy, Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati's Lendard College of Business, Jeff Shaffer, going to talk about how we can skill up so we're not left behind and confused and with no purpose in life. In a matter of what they say within five years, the whole world will be drastically different. And speaking of you see, it will look drastically different. You see how I'm a professional. I just tied that right in the That was good.
01:06:28
Speaker 4: I like that.
01:06:29
Speaker 3: I went to school not for this but other stuff.
01:06:32
Speaker 1: Anyway, what's amazing is one of the most some would call it a brutalist bit of architecture on the University of Cincinnati campus. That Crossley Tower is to some been one of the most amazing things that they could ever see. It's something that they look at fondly. Others have from the very beginning disturbed by it, troubled by it, felt uncomfortable, and arguably the style of architecture is maybe hard to deal with just in general, hence the term brutalist. But that one of the things that's amazing to me, and it's coming down is why we're talking about it here for a minute, and about that change, as I understand, and Sean McMahon, who's the producer here but obviously a UC guy into work there, is going to school there, done a little of everything. The thing that blew me away about this it is the second largest, as it's been reported, single concrete poor thing ever done in the United States. As I understand it pretty amazing, right, that is hard to process, Yeah, from a building that people occupied. Yeah, so I mean that's a crazy thing that it is, just no pieces in parts, just keep bringing those trucks.
01:07:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:07:38
Speaker 18: Yeah, eighteen straight continuous days they poured that building. That's crazy. I've never like, have you ever heard of construction like that. From what I read, apparent it was the same process they used to build like bunkers along the East Coast during the Second World War. Yep, So they just applied the same you know, techniques to this building on along MLK and it's it's it's funny because it was named one of America's like ugliest buildings on university campuses. Yeah, and like from I mean, I guess, I guess it always had a cult following, but like from that point forward, it developed an even deeper cult following, and I was proudly part of that. It was like the mid twenty teens or late twenty teens when that article came out, I want to say, it's like twenty seventeen or something like that, and I fell in love with the building because to me, yeah, it might be ugly, but it's a it's a fun kind of ugly, like it's it's a very distinct, unique kind of ugly that it's you can't find it anywhere else. And you mentioned it's the second largest continuoency pored structure in America or the world, I think, behind the Hoover Dam.
01:08:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, so literally a dam that.
01:08:41
Speaker 18: Holds back however, many tons of hundreds of thousands of tons of water, not.
01:08:46
Speaker 1: As much as it used to, not as much as you used to. See that bathroom going up there, You're like, oh my, where the water go?
01:08:51
Speaker 3: We drank it?
01:08:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah we did.
01:08:52
Speaker 3: We got a little thirsty.
01:08:53
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, we needed it. But it's it's such an iconic building. And even people start showing up to football games. There was always at least one guy you could see wearing a Crosley Tower hat.
01:09:04
Speaker 1: I've never even paid attention to notice that, and I've been i think two games, and that's right. Seriously, people show up where it's I mean, it's mainly I think it's just one guy or two guys, but architecture people, I'm guessing probably, or just you know, casual appreciators. It looked like a real I don't know what it was made of like paper mache or something, and it could have been too heavy because you know you're wearing it on your head, probably not concrete, you know what. You don't want to continue to support a concrete on your head, right, So yeah, I saw a guy wearing a hat at football games all the time, and it just it just became iconic. And it was sad because I think my freshman year of college was when they initially were like, Okay, yeah, we are we are definitely making plans to tear down. Is it falling down or or why are they getting rid of it? Because I know everything changes and it is an amazing campus. And one of the things that's cool about you see from my experience and you went to school there, Sewan, you live there, breath there or everything, uh, is that you can see these changes and experimentation and new kinds of looks of buildings that even sometimes don't look like they should somehow stand right right. But a lot of people, uh, I just don't understand why it's going away.
01:10:06
Speaker 18: So the reason that it's going away is because it's just structurally it's having so many issues. The biggest thing is that it's actually sinking into the dirt. So it's actually like the ground below it is actually moving and it's starting to kind of fall one direction, so it's just not stable. The concrete's kind of coming apart. Yeah, a little bit. The Lenning Tower of Sinsey. Yeah, you don't want that. You don't want that dangling over a major road, like Martin Luther King Junior. You know, like, you don't you don't want that. That's not good for drivers. But yeah, like it's sinking into the ground, it's having major plumbing issues. Basically, the cost of repair would far outweigh the cost of just let's just get rid of it. And from what I understand, UC did not want the building from the beginning. They saw it and they were like, oh man, I can't wait till that comes down. So they've been looking for an excuse for a long time to get rid of it. So they hated it the way a lot of other people hate her. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of odd that they would have it there and it became what it is and they build it. It was okay, it was cost was you know, accounting was done, they budgeted it, they build it, yet they didn't want it.
01:11:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, how does that happen.
01:11:11
Speaker 2: I don't know.
01:11:12
Speaker 3: They just I guess they saw the final result and they're like, you know, I don't know.
01:11:16
Speaker 18: It's like you get a new piece of furniture in your house and you're like, that looks awful, but I can't return it now, Like what am I supposed to do?
01:11:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad place to be. I got to make the best of it. Easier to get rid of a chair than the massive building exactly exactly, So will people celebrate this? I mean, because I mean you think about it when they've had other buildings, if they're going are they going to do like an implosion kind of scenario or how are they going.
01:11:39
Speaker 2: To do it?
01:11:40
Speaker 18: So the way that they're doing it is they're actually taking it down floor by floor, so they're basically cutting it into sections, and then I guess they're just lowering it down to trucks below. Because if you were to blow up that much concrete, you would have a lot of issues. First of all, you need a lot of expl you'd need a lot of explosive you know, TNT. It's just kind of the fun part of you know, people who do the demo work tremendous. Yeah, I mean that's fun, right. The only issue is that you have so many buildings directly next to Crasley Tower. You got DAP right there. I think Vashaw Hall is right next to it. You got a parking garage attached to it. So you have to take it down in pieces again because it's so much concrete. Uh So in terms of like people, I don't know about celebrating it, Like I think people celebrate the quote unquote life of Crasley Tower because it's fifty seven years old this year. Wo first open in nineteen fifty seven, and it was home to many like science labs and you know, biology, chemistry labs, sociology. There were animals held in there like for experiment, like not like they were torturing this poor or anything like that, of course, but they had like they had like basically lab rats, you know, like they were doing important work, like it was at George Rivashaw, a chemist that you see who invented Benadryl was doing you did some of his work at Crosley Tower. Like there was a lot of important work done in that building. And I think still takes Benadrill. Oh really yeah, And you could think for that I did not know I learned something else.
01:13:02
Speaker 1: I know that obviously, you see had great connection Cincinnati had great connection to with issues with like polio research and everything else too, But I did not know about the diephen higermen.
01:13:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you, thank you. Yeah.
01:13:14
Speaker 18: And I think I think the public reaction, everybody was in agreement when it was first talked.
01:13:18
Speaker 3: About that it was coming down, that it was going to be a sad day.
01:13:20
Speaker 18: When it was officially announced that yeah, we have plans, here's when it's starting, everybody was going to be bummed. Even the people who were like that building's ugly. Not many people were like, you know, I'm happy it's coming down. That thing is ugly, it's terrible. We need to get rid of it. I think most people were like, this is gonna be sad because it's so iconic. It's such a a I mean, it's a massive fixture of UC's campus. You brought up the diversity of the architecture, which is fun. I remember the first time I came down with like, my this is going to sound weird, and I started to say it's so, I'm going to say it anyway. My grandmother's boyfriend, which is weird to say, but she was divorced. One of the early nineteen hundred stuff happens.
01:13:57
Speaker 2: Amen.
01:13:58
Speaker 1: So I would come down here with her from Dayton and her boyfriend at the time. I got to see some UC basketball, and I remember going around the campus seeing buildings, and I was just blown away about how different in everything walking around was.
01:14:10
Speaker 3: He may have actually gone to UC.
01:14:11
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but that was my introduction to campus and all that other stuff where I was just kind of like, oh wow, which is pretty interesting.
01:14:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like.
01:14:20
Speaker 18: Even like you look at some of the public comments online, like, there's some Google reviews here that are really good. Some of them are just like heartfelt, some of them are a little bit more comical.
01:14:28
Speaker 3: So here's one for you.
01:14:30
Speaker 18: Can be scary at times, and it is poorly designed. However, it is a trademark of UC that can be seen from almost anywhere on campus. It would make me, along with many others, said, if it ever actually got torn down.
01:14:40
Speaker 1: So it sounds like that they're calling it a mistake, but it's a happy mistake.
01:14:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:14:45
Speaker 18: The scariest single pore of concrete that I've ever been in. I love mister Crosley, though, final Boss of the University of Cincinnati will stare you down from anywhere where you are on campus. The Ultimate Building of the United States of America. And yet that was a three star review. Apparently, somehow the Ultimate Building of the United States of America gets a three star review. Someone's here, like, here's more comical stuff. Best building in town has the tastiest asbestos on campus. Yeah, by the way, don't eat asbestos. I want to make sure that I have the music not associated with any of this. Yes, I'm not either. That's a public statement that someone made on Google. I want to make it clear I'm not advocating for that whatsoever. That's a bad idea. Someone even wrote a poem here. Oh yes, it says, my eyes open from slumber. I quickly get dressed and rush outside toast in mouth and MacBook tucked neatly under my shoulder.
01:15:35
Speaker 3: Quote.
01:15:35
Speaker 18: I can't wait to see him rushing up the street. I begin to see his head, he knowing I'm coming. Big brother always knows. This is the best part of my morning, knowing that Crosley will see me once more after our bitter departure of the night before.
01:15:47
Speaker 3: Oh so long, oh so strong. The concrete and height everything. I like, you are where I belong now and forever.
01:15:54
Speaker 2: WOA.
01:15:54
Speaker 1: That was fair XXL, very emotional. I could feel that it was good. We are arts and craftsy some poetry, big one.
01:16:01
Speaker 3: That's good.
01:16:01
Speaker 18: And I was talking to Brian Thomas about it on Tuesday morning because I was filming in for Joe's Tracker on fifty five KRC, and he had brought it up because Tuesday was the day that deconstruction officially began. So then I went down the rabbit hole of all of these like articles that had been posted in the last twenty four hours, and there was all kinds of cool history, the photos of when it first opened, some basic facts and history about it that I didn't know before. I didn't have much of a personal connection to the building other than I just love how it looked at Iconic.
01:16:29
Speaker 3: I love the campus.
01:16:30
Speaker 18: The diversity of the architecture, you know, the way that you have old architecture mixed with new architecture, and the way that even some of the newer architecture wraps around the old architecture and the way that they merged together.
01:16:41
Speaker 3: That's what I love about the campus.
01:16:43
Speaker 18: And granted it's an you know, you can call it an ugly building, but it's unique and it adds to that sense of diversity on campus. So he was telling me, Brian was that, you know, he had had a lot of classes and classes in that building, so he had a really deep personal connection with it. And he's like, you know, it's funny because most of the sentimental value I have about going to UC is really linked to that building. And I'm like, see, that's interesting. I don't know many people that do, because I mean I was way late to the party. Like by the time I was in college, it was like, yeah, we're taking it down in the next ten years, so it was slowly being abandoned and just people were slowly moving out their offices. I think I went in there maybe twice, once for fun, because I made it a goal of mine before I even started going to UC, like months leading into my freshman year, that I was going to learn the name of every building on campus and I was going to go inside and check them out for myself because I just wanted to know what do they look like on the inside. I'm going to be here for the next four years. I'm gonna be curious about this stuff. They didn't do that for your tour. No, No, I gave myself a tour. I did, Yeah, I mean I got to see like the dorm I was living in and stuff like that, and I got to see the campus.
01:17:52
Speaker 3: But I mean I didn't really need a tour.
01:17:53
Speaker 18: I had been on campus so many times, and I went up by myself, like everybody's there with their parents, and I'm just like, hey, it's just me.
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Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing.
01:18:02
Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 18: You just give me the lecture on the on the material of UC and and the academic material.
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Speaker 3: That's fine, that's all I need. I can give myself a tour. I know where I'm going. Yeah, and you try to figure it out. By the way.
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Speaker 1: Sean McMahon, of course a producer here talking about this Crosley tower that's going to go bye bye eventually. It's going to take a little longer than some other buildings. February of next year. That's that's a long deconstruction. Yeah, that is what that is, and demolition that goes along with that, and then who knows what comes next. Was Sterling on the big one, you know. The other thing, of course, is the Crossley connection. Pal Crawsley, Junior of course going back to the early Roaring twenties, like the twenties two. Yeah, and of course, you know, in that window of time, they basically created seven hundredu w ulw in that window, we just celebrated one hundred and four more years at one hundred and four years, I guess, yeah, which is astounding amazing. And there you've got we have radio. We need a state or a station and then radio and they made it all happen. I mean, it was a pretty amazing thought process to go with it. I mean, I'm just trying to get the dog outside, and they're you know, we have broadcast technology and then here we are the nation station.
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Speaker 3: Of all the other buildings.
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering because I think most campuses a lot of cities, whether it's bridges when we think about Brent Spence Bridge, and a lot of people love that mess that's going to you know, obviously have a companion bridge sooner than later with seventy one seventy five of stuff that used to be that isn't anymore, or stuff that you love that you can't imagine ever going away. I mean, there's a lot of stuff in the skyline here in other places that go with it. Is there any other building that you have a connection to that you can remember, like as a kid, for me growing up in Dayton before you know, coming here the first time, and all I can remember leaving Dayton and whether it was coming to Cincinnati for the Reds games or whether going to Florida, which really sticks out as a kid too. Yeah, you'd pass like what was at that point Dayton Power and Lights, big building near ud Okay, and I was like, okay, leave in town. Then you go through a Moraine and you go I smell what now is like Mount Roumky Yeah, and then sorry, Moraine. I have relatives in the area. I'm not hating on you and the people are hating me now and then driving through, but there's certain stuff that sort of sticks out. It's like, oh, this is that town. This is that Like if they ever took down the arch, the gateway to the West on the West Bank near Bush Stadium in Saint Louis, Yeah, I mean, would you recognize anything in Saint Louis.
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Speaker 18: Otherwise I don't know that I would, honestly. I mean, what else do you know Saint Louis for other than the Cardinals and formerly the Rams right. Yeah, yeah, the arch is there, that's their icon, right. I think maybe for me that's a good question. I would say the Big Mack Bridge.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I mean it's monument.
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Speaker 18: It looks exactly like Pittsburgh's bridge, it does, but it stands out you know, it's it's big, it's yellow, it's it's got a unique design. Even the suspension bridge, like Russ just mentioned, Yeah, that the suspension bridge. I really started learning about about the suspension bridge much later on how it was. Yeah, it was a it was a precursor essentially the one in New York.
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati, take it over the Ohio and then go to you know, much bigger stuff in New York, which is that's an amazing thing.
01:21:08
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
01:21:08
Speaker 1: I I just it's hard for me to imagine the brain power that goes into the vision, aside from the engineering. Ye just to say okay, we're going to solve this problem. AI will help me get there, right. These people did not have that, which is also a wild thing.
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Speaker 18: Incredible, man. Engineering is amazing, especially when you look at how it was done in this city. Now, it's a shame that, like some of these our old infrastructure is literally collapsing before our eyes. You know, they've been doing tons of projects to work on the Roebling Bridge, and unfortunately there's nothing they can do for Crosley Tower.
01:21:40
Speaker 3: I wanted to give a couple more facts here.
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Speaker 18: There was actually a UC student who made a type font that was inspired by the design language.
01:21:50
Speaker 1: When you look at the font a little bit. Yeah, but I almost always good for people's reading.
01:21:54
Speaker 3: We'll read more.
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Speaker 15: My eyes hurt.
01:21:56
Speaker 5: It hurts.
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Speaker 18: I almost kind of want my email signature to be that funt because it's so cool. I don't know how I can get it. It's I wonder if it's publicly accessed. They call it brutalist, or they call it Crossley.
01:22:07
Speaker 3: What do they call it? You know, that's a good question, somebody. You should have had that ready, yes, And I should have had the name of the student ready.
01:22:12
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry. I know that's all right. You knew I was going to ask the most like thing that is going to put you in in the weeds. I didn't mean to do it, but I'm good at doing that.
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Speaker 18: But apparently the shape of the building was meant to help exhaust the science lab fumes from the building. The way that it's like to let it get out, yeah, exactly, to get it away from the building and through the neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, right, precisely. Yeah, send it through the houses of the neighborhood. Fine, kids are fine. There's there's some other really funny public reviews here is like there's a lot of people talking about ghosts. There's one that says, minus the shadow people whispering in the halls, the vibes are immaculate.
01:22:45
Speaker 1: Now, these are college students probably coming up with this other may some other type of assistance to have that.
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Speaker 3: Do you think there's anything haunted there? I mean it's an old campus. There's gotta be.
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Speaker 18: There if you believe thing right, I don't know what building would be Like Crosley, of all of them, kind of makes the most sense because people like to hate on it the most more than any other building. Like you wouldn't look at the Athletic build million, Yeah it's haunted. Like that doesn't really make any sense. But like you look across and you tell someone that's haunted, Like you could convince a few people who are toring the campus like, oh wow, that's a haunted building.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you look at the athletic facility. You're like, there's no way that's haunted. That doesn't make any sense. So you know, it's sad.
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Speaker 18: It's a sad day to know that it's days are numbered, it's on borrowed time, and by this time next year it'll be it'll be gone. And I think by February of twenty twenty nine they'll have a new science, Technology, engineering, and math building in that exact print, Yeah, in that footprint right there, So they'll have a new building as they do like every year. You know, there's always a new building popping up on that campus because you see under constructions to that old jokes.
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Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of it really because it is constantly changing, you bringing new minds and new ideas and new things. So I mean it's just ever changing and always Thanks for coming in and doing this. You did a great job.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you.
01:24:00
Speaker 18: I'm going to miss that concrete monolith that someone described as a sentinel looking over Clifton and the greater Cincinnati area.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how it works with licensing, but I could see Sincy shirts or somebody else getting some shirts together that yeah, I will buy one right now if they make one, I will buy five of them. I don't want to tell anybody how to handle their money, but we're all good at it with sports teams. Everybody likes to tell the Bengals how to handle their business or the Reds, right exactly. I don't want to interfere with the University of Cincinnati. There's a lot of a lot of weight there, powerful people, right right, But that's one of those where'd be like, yeah, I get I get a little of that. So if they could find a way to do it, that might be way to maybe raise some money for charitable stuff or something along those lines too. We also we got a bounce, we got other stuff to speaking in the University of Cincinnati and the future director of AI Strategy Perry Professor University of Cincinnati's Lender College of Business, Jeff Schaeffer, going to join me conversation I had with him about the future. Five years from now, life as we know it will not be. It will be something completely different. How do you stay relevant, how do you stay vital? How do you you have a future in this or your kids? We'll talk about that after your two third report. Right here, Sterling and a Sean McMahon and Russ Jackson and Sandy Collins. I think with those or somebody else's coming in. I don't know who, maybe Matt. Seven hundred double LW.
01:25:23
Speaker 14: The same.
01:25:24
Speaker 1: The longest time is coming for us, all artificial intelligence, the robots taking our jobs. The question, of course, what is it that you and your kids and I and Alex Egano's producing or Sandy Collins can do or are willie to skill up around what we already do to embrace AI and have a future where we're not going I have no idea what I'm going to do with my life. A guy who knows all about these things. The director of AI Strategy and Perry Professor the University of Cincinnati Lendner College of Business, Jeff Shaeffer, Welcome back to seven hundred double You well w with Sterling.
01:26:01
Speaker 3: How are you this fine Sunday?
01:26:03
Speaker 5: I'm good.
01:26:04
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back.
01:26:05
Speaker 3: I appreciate you making time.
01:26:06
Speaker 1: So what is the first thing someone should look at is they assess their current situation in looking ahead in whatever industry, whatever trade, whatever it is that they do to make a living or have a passion that they should be looking to improve upon to be able to stick around and keep doing something anything and have a future.
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Speaker 2: Well, these are all great questions and questions that I think, you know, we're pondering in this age of AI. Here, right, we have six thousand students as an example, at the Lennar College of Business, you see, and we're talking about these same things. So one of the things that we've done is kind of put these into i'll call them buckets of competencies. Right, and so you have some basic things about career readiness, professionalism, you know, things that before AI we'd still talk about, right, showing up to work and prepare, you know, accountability, respect all all of those things. What's really changed now is the tech side of it, right, tech savviness and trying to be fluent in that, in that in those tools and in those those language and the other thing that probably doesn't get enough talk. And when we're all talking about technology, are we skilled up in the AI uh space with these tools and uh uh, these these new things right that that potentially make us better, faster, smarter. Uh, we don't lose the human element. The human element may in fact become more important than the tech element in all this. So when you ask that question, I think the first thing is don't be afraid of it. I think you got to lean into the technology. At Pandora's boxes open. You know, everything is AI and it's been around for a long time. It's like you say, oh, I don't want to use AI. Well, you're you're watching Netflix tonight right that that that has AI in it, So you know everything has AI built into these things. It's just getting more ingrained into the things that we do.
01:28:03
Speaker 1: Talking to Jeff Schaeffer, he is the director of AI Strategy, Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati's Lendner College of Business.
01:28:09
Speaker 3: With Sterling on the Big One.
01:28:10
Speaker 1: So as we look at the future of jobs and what is coming next, you mentioned about being more tech savvy for someone who's using some tech but not a lot of tech. Talking to friends, I've had other people that are supposedly experts about this. They sort of say, a lot of the trades are probably less likely to have a major hit to their future earning possibilities by AI, but there is some AI that can be utilized to help them and what they're doing regardless of that. So this is already sort of getting into every aspect of our lives. Anyway, whether it's the algorithms for stuff we're streaming, or even your car that gives you that you know, oh you got you're out of your lane, or you're you're too close to somebody, let's hit that brake for you. I mean, these are all elements that over the last decade have sorely, you know, sort of like bounced into our everyday lives.
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Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 11: Now.
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Speaker 2: If you look, if you want to talk about trades, certainly the we call this the world model, you know, the human elements. Again, AI doesn't have the concept of physics and gravity and things that are in our natural world, so it's a lot harder and people are chasing that problem. So Elon Musk is building you know, millions of robots. We'll get there and there will be people that are replaced from human tasks, just like you know in a factory. But that doesn't mean everything is going to get replaced, right, And so when you go back to any of this, I think we got to look at what that is. So from a technical standpoint, let's talk about that learning what AI is good at and what AI cannot do, at least in the short term. In the midterm and following that and staying on top of it. We had an alumni in this week and he said something to us that we need to teach the students to learn how to learn faster. Right. They need to be able to pick up these things quicker. They need to be able to adapt to change faster than need to apply those human things that I talked about, like question framing, how do you frame the question? Like that's more important than the technical side. Being technical in this day and age is going to get wiped out before the critical thinking right, interpreting the generation because understanding is this thing that just generated? Is it right? Or is it wrong? How do I know that right? And that comes from experience business context, right, being able to put it in a business context. I give you an example, like for automating an invoice flow. You know, every business has an invoice, Every invoice has a date on it, and every invoice has an amount on it. And so that sounds like something that could be easily automated. And then you say, okay, well what about medical invoicing? Now just think about the complexities I just introduced, right with insurance companies and doctors and why it's being invoiced and all those things, and so you have to have a domain expertise, and then you have to be able to apply that domain expertise to AI to get results that are worthwhile, because otherwise you're just real eying on a generation, right, I mean word generation that's going to give you answers. How do you know it's right? How do you know that workflow is right? How do you know that what it produced is accurate? And so being able to understand the technical side enough, the domain side enough, and then being able to apply i'll call it the personal traits right, the human elements, the critical thinking, the judgment, the ethical reasoning, accountability, all of those things.
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Speaker 1: Is there still a need for people to do coding and learn different programming languages? Because it was less than a decade to fifteen years ago, hanging out with friends and their kids and talking about the future and what they need. We need coders, we need coders, we need coders. A decade later, it seems like a lot of that stuff is sort of fallen to the wayside.
01:31:47
Speaker 3: Is that the case? Or am I misunderstanding where we are in what's coming?
01:31:52
Speaker 2: No, there is an absolute risk there of that I was Vibe coding this week, which means that I'm not writing any code myself. I'm giving directions to the computer to generate the code. And it was in a language called Python and I and I also was doing some web page stuff in HTML, and so these sound technical. Then you say, okay, well, how did I know what question to ask? How did I know enough about HTML or Python, these languages to ask the question to get what I want? Because I got exactly what I want and I didn't have to write a line of code. So then put that in perspective to students. You may not need to know all the details of how to do it, because I you know, with code complete, and you know generation of code now it's a GitHub copilot and tools like that, it'll generate the code for me. So I go back to how do I know that code is correct? How do I put that code in production? How do I monitor that code is doing the right thing? How do I make sure that code is compliant legally? If it's making a business decision, what kind of decision is it making. Is it making a high risk decision or is it making a low risk decision? And so, while there's lots of tasks out there. If it's folding my laundry like a you know, think about a robot for an example, that's a low risk task and if it makes a mistake, no problem. But if it's making a medical decision, that could be a high risk, right. And so the short answer, yes, I think humans are critical in this in some form or fashion, but also acknowledging people make mistakes too, right, And so I think the collaboration of the technology and the people is what's key getting that balance.
01:33:24
Speaker 1: Director of AI Strategy and PERI Professor University of Cincinnati's Lender College of Business, Jeff Schaeffer was sterling on the Big One talking about the future of jobs and how we can better position ourselves moving ahead. These skills related to artificial intelligence, and I don't know what you don't call it the right term here, whether it's future proofing whatever else. I just want to place in the future regard. You know, whether you're driving on seventy four now or two seventy five, whatever, and you're thinking like what's next. You know, you're thirty five years old, You've got a family, You're thinking how to how do I make sure that I'm safe? And you think about this protection issue. You talk about data interpretation, the learning, machine learning stuff and problems solving. How do you know is there if I go to UC or if I go to somewhere else, are there online tools that you can sort of take some type of tutorial or something to sort of get a firm grip on it. Because if you're already you know, doing what you do and making your way through the world, sometimes it's hard to make time to do the continuing education that's necessary to stay relevant.
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Speaker 2: Loads of resources out there, right, there's all kinds of YouTube free resources that are available. But if you want to dive deeper into those things, yes, a program like you see. We offer workshops for people who are busy professionals and just want to come learn a little bit. We have certificate programs if you want to dive deeper. We have degree programs, right, if you want to get a degree in this. So if I'm out there thinking about it, I'm gonna not be scared of it. I'm going to try to embrace it in some sense. Even if you're even if you put yourself in the anti AI category, just recognize it's like saying I'm anti automobile right everywhere. And yeah, so so you know you have to figure out how it's going to incorporate into those things. From a standpoint of changing careers or advancing or trying to do something else, I'd probably be thinking about, Okay, well, how can I leverage AI to make me better and faster at doing the things I want to do? Think about if you ever had an idea and you want to build a business, well, gosh, it's probably never been a better time. Think about you know, years ago, how would you get a website? Well, you'd have to hire somebody to go build a website for you. Right today, you don't have to do that. There's loads of places to go and you could spin up a website in a few hours and your you know, your website would be ready to go. And that goes for every single task of what you're doing in the business. You could have ideas and you could brainstorm faster, you can create marketing products faster, you can create content faster, and so it really leverages anybody to be able to kind of level the playing field, if you will. Anybody can level up to do what they need to do in that space. And so yes, go get some training find out how to do some of these things and see if you can leverage them in whether it's your daily work at your office, or whether it's something new you want to try.
01:36:12
Speaker 3: You know, It's funny.
01:36:13
Speaker 1: When I was coming up, it was always sterling as it possible you could fix the VCR, so it's not blinking twelve for my mom.
01:36:21
Speaker 3: And now I get the I don't.
01:36:22
Speaker 1: Understand why I can't get from YouTube back to the iHeartRadio app and then back to Netflix. Why can't I just just I'm like, look, it's a different device. It's a whole nother scenario. There's always this gap as we sit here now. If you have kids and they're coming up, and I've seen it with my friends and some of my relatives kids, they're born with the device in their hand. They're already aware of what this is, or maybe don't have an idea is to giving it a name, to say it's artificial intelligence. But they're born in living in it, in a wash in it. Are they feeling stressed? Should they feel stressed? Or is this just as simple and easy for adaptation as it was maybe for coming up.
01:37:02
Speaker 5: I think that's a real.
01:37:03
Speaker 2: Challenge for parents and that's that's not just an AI thing. I think that was a result of you know, our social media generation, as content got shorter and faster and in your face, right through reels, tiktoks even now LinkedIn and Instagram and you know, all these channels and it's it's just kind of flowing, and that makes it hard because there's a lot more noise out there. And then throw the AI component on that weaponized you know, social media, and now you have content you don't know whether it's real, you don't know whether it's fake, you don't know you know, why we're so polarized. All those things could probably come back to those those elements, So that that is a hard challenge to counteract that. I would say, you know, we have to slow down a little bit, you know, work fast with technology, but slow down when it comes to the critical thinking, the discernment, those again, those human elements, because that's that's how we're going to have to implement and apply these these tools.
01:38:00
Speaker 1: Jeff Safer is the director of Artificial Intelligence Strategy, the Perry Parry Professor, University of Cincinnati Lindner College of Business. AI should help me be able to slow down and enunciate that would help. What about the issue of understanding what people are going through in the eighties to the nineties, huge technological change, industry change, russ Belt issues people, you know, the despondency in all the things. As time moves on, we saw people left behind, multi generations dealing with emotional stress, not necessarily balancing back and taking a couple of decades really to even navigate that. In some cases where we sit right now in twenty twenty six, I'm curious about the issue of ethics and understanding what is coming because, as you've described it and many others have, what's ahead of us is supposed to be in what we're in the middle of or in the early stages, is supposed to be what the most dramatic change in human history and advancement of technology. And that's a lot to deal with, not just hey, an auto industry or something was outsourced overseas, and now how do I have purpose. There's a lot of layers to that.
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Speaker 2: It's complicated and it's a lot to figure out. There are things that we certainly should should be scared of in that realm, but there's there's so many unknowns, right, you know, we talked, I think on the last time about h You know, lower level jobs are getting replaced, right, you know, they're they're they're only keeping the higher level, more skilled people. And the problem with that is is where do those highly skilled people come from? Right? They come from lower level jobs that are trained up. And so we have to think through that. You know, it's the same thing with coding. You could say, oh, well, don't be a coder because we don't know anybody, you know, we're not going to need to code. Well, where did the computer learn to code? Right? It didn't learn to code on its own. It learned to code from best practices of people doing it for decades. And so we are the engine that feeds that knowledge and we shouldn't forget that, right, And so yeah, where do we fit in the picture? This is akin to back in the day we had automation that replaced muscles. You know. Now we're at automation trying to replace cognition. And it's not there, you know, it's it's getting there, and it's moving, and it's moving very fast. It can do things that are either very domain specific that humans can't do, or it can do generalized things not as well as humans can do. And so that's where we are at the moment. Where we go in the future, you know, people are chasing the idea that a computer will be better at us than everything at some point agi artificial general intelligence. I don't know if we'll get there anytime soon, but that is the that is the goal, right, And so in that world, then you really have to think about where we are. That's that's a human race sort of question, right. But I think today we have to think about keeping that human in the loop in some form or fashion, and at least for all of those things I outlined right, just to make sure that we are providing that critical thinking, the problem solving those things that today are very very important in those processes.
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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, and I really appreciate you you making time, and I hope you'll come back. Jeff Schaeffer, by the way, is the director of AI Strategy and Peri Professor University of Cincinnati's Lendard College of Business. In about a minute or so, is someone's driving around right now that got the kids in the car coming back from brunch church whatever else it is that they got going on in this beautiful day in the Troy State. If you like cold weather especially and you're trying to think of Okay, if I want to get a plan together and I want to start working this, you don't want to stress out. You don't want to be overwhelmed. What's the first thing someone should do if they're looking to try to find a way to get to the next level?
01:41:51
Speaker 2: How about a fun exercise? How about we use AI to help us answer that question? Go out to many many free resources, Google, Gemini, Chat, GPT, Claude. You can use their free tool and use AI and try it and ask those questions and see if you can formulate a plan. Spend ten or fifteen minutes going back and forth prompting and asking questions like that, what could I do? Where could I go? What about researching? And just give it a try and see what it finds for you, because you'll, I think most people who aren't familiar with that will be amazed as what you could get done and what you could do in fifteen minutes or twenty minutes or thirty minutes. And that would be a way to kind of get your feet wet into something like that and then maybe go explore some training on this, whether it's a U see at the University of Cincinnati or somewhere else. Go out and look for some classes and say, hey, you know what, I'm gonna sit through a few hours of this and see what I can learn, see what I can pick up from that, and then see what I can apply pack it at my job.
01:42:46
Speaker 3: Give me a solution for my future.
01:42:48
Speaker 1: It's the right question, prompted the right way to the right AI could perhaps be the difference in everything. It's good to talk to you. I appreciate you making time. I hope you enjoyed the rest of your weekend. Jeff Schaeffer's the direct actor of AI Strategy. Perry Professor, University of Cincinnati, Linder College of Business. Thank you for making time. Take care of yourself, Jeff. We'll check it in soon.
01:43:07
Speaker 2: Always great talking with you.
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Speaker 3: Take care of.
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