Things that make dieting hard (plus some influencers who are getting it right)| Guest: Jerry Molinero

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And we're in and we're in the studio because I've
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been lately, you have done a lot of shows from
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home because I'm talking to people remotely. But today I'm
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talking to Jerry, who is one of our trainers here
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at the place at through Subarbo.
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Hi, guys, I'm Jerry.
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Oh no, no, I didn't know we were going to
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get speedy. Wait a minute, yo, blame me some speedy Gonzales.
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You know what I'm talking about. That's uh, that's you
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know the voice. It's like, yeah, just like that.
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Absolutely, Yes, culture, the culture, and we take pride in
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speeding Onzalez.
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We just got canceled.
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We take pride and we love them.
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Good good, good kid good. I asked Cherry to come
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in and talk about because we're both on extended weight
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loss journeys at the moment, and he's wearing an ALI
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T shirt today to go with the Ali poster that
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we have behind him here, and to talk about a
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couple of things. One of them is what makes it
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difficult to lose weight. This is like, I think we
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can talk generally and we can talk specifically about ourselves
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what we are challenged with, and then I want to
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talk a little social media. So, uh, I will kick
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it off a little bit and I'll sort of ask
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a question, do you have a craving thing?
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At this point and the cut, I think I've gotten
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over that hill. And then just for the viewers to
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a little context, I'm seven weeks into like a twelve
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month cut.
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At the very beginning of it, the cravings.
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Were pretty strong, yeah, because once you was, I went
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down from eating pretty hardy. I would say, like my
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maintenance was pretty high up there, and I was kind
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of just like I was eating clean.
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I wasn't eating anything crazy, but like if I craved.
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Like some ice cream, I'd go get some ice cream right,
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Like I was eating at that kind of rate.
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And so to immediately cut all of that.
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Out for the start of the cut, where I just
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ate the meals that I had allocated for myself and
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nothing more. I would find myself wandering to the fridge,
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opening it up.
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And just to see, like, like that looks pretty good.
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But at this point I would say, that's all kind
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of gone now and I don't have.
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Those same cravings anymore. I feel like it was kind.
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Of a hill that I got over, and at this
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point in the cut is just very focused. I eat
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my meals as if they were just another task to complete.
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It's very like bleak in that sense, like is enough.
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There's no pleasure that comes with eating, right, It's just
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another thing to do, another thing to check off for
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the day, and that's it. That's all I my body knows,
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it understands that that's all we're gonna eat. There's nothing extra,
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there's no snacking, there's no there's no cravings left to chase.
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But when I am like eating more for like maintenance
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or if I was going up and wait, like when
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I was bulking, if I was craving something, I would
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I would go get it.
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You just destroy it. Yeah, for me, I don't usually
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like crave specific things, even if it's like right in
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front of me or whatever, and that's like just kind
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of from jump for whatever. But what I crave is
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the kind of haphazard incidental eating I used to do. So,
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Like if I went to the store for something, I
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would think, geez, i'm I would I not be upset
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by a salty, crunchy thing, And then the what you
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want is like it's like this much crunchy salty thing
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you want, like a little bit you want like, you know,
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a few ounces of whatever. Yeah, but what you have
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to buy is all the bag. Yeah. And like even
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even finding like the lunch sized bags, it is hard.
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To do, right yeah, So like you'll notice it with
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like chips, right, you see the family sized bag more
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often than the little ones because the little ones will
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be hidden. Now if you go to the store, Yeah,
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and you want like the little dollar bags like back
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in the day used to be like a dollar, those
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are hidden.
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Yeah, you have to like go out of your way
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to find them.
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At the front they'll have the big family sized bags now.
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And it's all it's all on purpose. It's all yeah,
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curated to keep us fat. Yeah yeah.
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Yeah, and so like I would, I would buy a
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whole bag of something and tell myself I was not
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going to eat you know, much of it. It's always
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a lot, yeah, I know. And like and and I
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I miss doing that kind of eating while driving because
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driving is boring. Yeah right, that's amazing.
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That's an amazing time right there.
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Yeah, like oh my god, pretzels all your you know,
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you can't use the stick pretzels because you'll get caught
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in your throat and you'll you'll die and you'll die
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on the road. Yeah.
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But well, yeah, Like as someone who coming from the
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career that I was in, I did a lot of commuting,
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and that's probably what led to me getting so heavy.
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At my heaviest was I was doing.
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A lot of commuting from here to the Bay Area,
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and that's like two hours each way, sitting in your car,
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super boring. One of the ways you would stay awake
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is by snacking, and so like on my little routine
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every day, I'd stop by the gas station in the morning,
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I'd grab a bunch of snacks, and then on the
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way home, I'd stop at a gas station, grab a
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bunch of snacks, and.
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You just be chomping on them all two hour long
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for the whole drive, right.
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And if you sit there and you look at every
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like item that you got from the from the gas station,
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you add up all those calories, It's insane how much
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how dense that food is.
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Yeah, And you know, sometimes even when you know, you
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goes back to you tell yourself that you're not gonna
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consume the whole thing, and then and then you.
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And then you blink and you can Yeah. Yeah.
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I always use sour Patch kids as like the shout
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out sour Patch kids. As the example where those bags
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you get at the gas station if you if you
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do it, like the bag will say three hundred calories
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or whatever, but there's ten servings in the bag, So
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that's three thousand calories in the bag in the bag,
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and nobody thinks about it until they're like, you'll finish
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that bag in one city.
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Yeah. Uh. The one that used to get me all
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the time because it sounds like it's not to be
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a bad thing is skinny pop popcorn because it comes
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in an enormous, like king sized pillow kind of bag,
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and uh, I would start eating it. And I love popcorn.
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And though it is not very caloric if you stick
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to the serving, it's wildly cloric. If you eat the
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entire wow, and you know, like you're oh well, and
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you're sort of constantly measuring how much is still in
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the bag, it's like, okay, well.
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Like I can keep going another hand.
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Yeah, yeah, it's just hey, that bag is still heavy,
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you know what I mean. It's there's a lot.
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Of hand bill maybe it's.
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Pop it's popcorn. And then you get down to the
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you know, the parts where it's all the broken pieces
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and crumbs and yeah, and all the all the busted
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shells when you're holding and hold the backup over your face. Yeah,
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and just like and then you just rain popcorn ship everywhere. Yeah,
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that's yeah.
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It gets had a hand quick. I think our bodies
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have been indoctrinated to to not say no to an
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excess of food. I'm sure in older generations when they
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didn't eat as much, like because if you go and
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I've seen it in like foreign countries where they don't
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have access to as much readily available food, they get filled,
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they get full faster like.
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After their meals, they feel full, they feel.
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Satiated, versus here like after a big, big dinner, big lunch,
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you're like, oh, now I need a sweet tree. Now
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I need something and want something to top it off, right,
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And meanwhile you just ate like two thousand calories worth
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of of steak and potatoes or whatever you had for
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lunch or dinner, and then you go get another eight
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hundred calories worth of ice cream and cookies and you
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add it all up and that's that's that's the calorie
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yield for like a week's worth of food in a
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single meal.
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Yeah, and you know, for for me, like, I'm four
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plus months into this and and just now, just now
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is that like oh wow, I really miss being able
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and and eat you were saying stay awake, yeah, stay
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awake or boredom you know those are It's just really
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hard to get through those those moments when you're tired
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and you and you want to sleep but you can't
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and or you're bored and the easiest thing to do
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to keep going was the munch on something. And now
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it's like maybe carrot sticks or whatever. It's like it's
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like what is it? Would air? You know, I mean
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water that never works?
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I think gum had gum was a real real useful
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tool earlier on in the cut when I did have
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like the cravings and stuff where I would chew a
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couple of pieces of gum just to keep the mouth busy, right,
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Like it kind of tricks you into thinking like, oh
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I am doing something, especially for the boredom bit of it.
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It keeps you active, It keeps you doing something, like
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you're conscious that that you're chewing the whole time, but
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you're not really eating anything.
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It's just chewing gum.
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And then you get a little bit of flavor out
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of it. So that kind of satiates the cravings a
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little bit. So that's a big one that I used
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earlier on. But like like I said, right now, at
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this point in it, like I'm pretty focused on it.
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I'm pretty locked in to where I don't really need
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stuff like that chewing gum every now and then, Like
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that's fine.
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It's still I keep a cup, you know, one of
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those like car cups come in the car, and that's
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usually where I chew it. I didn't usually chew it
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anywhere else.
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Yeah, yeah, it'll be onto the driver.
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Yeah, and yeah, just like it's the boredom is to
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stay awake. It's all that, you know. That's a thing
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I found challenging though, like what what.
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Do you what do you got as far as things
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that things that make it hard for you? For me specifically,
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like I said, like right now, it's not too hard.
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I'm pretty disciplined, especially this many years in the training
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in the gym and stuff and being a lot more
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controlled about what I eat, even when I'm on a
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bulk like.
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I'm not. I don't eat too dirty. I eat pretty clean.
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But when I was like outside of the gym before
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I got really locked in and really into it. I
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would say it was very difficult just to avoid all
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the processed stuff, all the fast food, especially like back then,
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like before COVID was like the peak of fast food where.
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Everything was super cheap, everything was super accessible.
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Like we joke about the dollar menu, but that was
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the real thing. Like the dollar Menu was a real thing,
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and it was super cheap.
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You could always pull into the.
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Drive through and for five bucks you had five cheeseburgers,
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just super easy to get, and that would be like
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a snack right between meals. Like if I was out
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and about, it's like, okay, I already had breakfast, I'm out,
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I'm a little bit hungry. Out Let me pull through
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McDonald's real quick, get a twenty piece nuggets and a
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burger and just annihilate that and then still go home
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for like lunch.
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What was your peak weight and when was that?
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I was three hundred pounds, like right before COVID, so
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like twenty nineteen, like late twenty eighteen, I think I
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was up at three hundred pounds, probably a little bit
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over that too. Three hundred was like the first time,
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the first number I actually saw on the scale.
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In your hotel. I am like five foot eight, and
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now you're under children.
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Now I'm under two hundred pounds again. I've been under.
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I've been like the lowest I've been since was like
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one eighty six, one eighty eight, when I was doing
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a little bit more powerlifting just to make weight class.
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But I've allowed myself to build back up and put
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on some muscle, put on some leaner size. So I've
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gone up to two thirty again, but I'm back down
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to like one ninety six today, so I'm in a
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lot more control of my weight. I can kind of
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go up and down as I will, like I'm not
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too afraid of going up anymore, but I don't cross
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a certain threshold anymore.
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Like two thirty I think is my.
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Cap because after that I do feel a little bit
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more sluggish, a little bit more fat. But yeah, three
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hundred pounds I cut down. It was a straight shot
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down to like the one eighty eight. There was no
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there's no bulk between that between three hundred one eight.
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That whole process was just a straight shot down. Or
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from three hundred to two point fifty was super quick,
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and then it hit like a wall, and then two
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fifty to like two twenty. It was really sluggish overall.
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I think it took me like three four years, but
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it was like, I know people can do it quicker,
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but I did it really slow.
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And I was.
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Building strength at the same time because I was lifting
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pretty heavy just being really active in the gym. I
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don't think I missed a single day at the gym
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throughout that whole process. But yeah, like I feel like
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I lost it at the rate my body wanted to
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lose it at.
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I think that brings up two more kind of at
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the same time, one of them being that it's harder
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to lose weight when you don't have much weight to lose.
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It's easier to lose weight if you have a bunch
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of weight to lose. Yeah, for whatever reason. I think
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some of it physiological and some of it's psychological.
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Yeah, I think definitely physiological.
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Like like right now, we can use my cut again
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as an example, like those first two weeks, I dropped
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like thirty pounds like I think we did in three
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weeks where I went from two thirty to two hundred
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pounds just quick, and that's probably a lot of just
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like dead weight, a lot of water weight. And as
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I get leaner, as I get lower in weight, it's
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going to be harder and harder to drag these pounds off.
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So now it's been like two pounds a week since then,
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like between two hundred to one ninety six has been
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kind of a grind, And I know that from one
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ninety six to the one eighties is probably going to
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be more of a grind too, because now we're not
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just losing just dead weight and water weight. All of
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that's gone. Now we're really getting that that that stubborn
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fat and potentially just leaner mass to lose.
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Yeah, And the other part of it is I think
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that they're one of the things that's that is it
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should be encouraging, but it's discouraging because you don't know
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because it's a it's an unknown and that's your body recomping.
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So like gaining muscle while you're why you're losing fat
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does not show up on the scale.
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No, it just seems stagnant.
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Yeah, it looks like you're not losing any weight, or
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some days you go.
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Up a little bit.
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Yeah, I'm just like fuck.
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It's like, damn, I've been starving this whole week, but
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like that number went up, you know why is that?
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Yeah? And and and you know, I think that that's
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the that's an achilles heel of the.
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Calories in, calories out kind of mentality.
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Mentality is that that sometimes you're shifting it around and
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it's on the it's just happening on the inside, not shit,
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that's happening on the outside. And like you would think, oh,
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you're burning X number of calories or whatever it but
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recomp happens, you know, Yeah, like I in four months
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lost nineteen pounds of fat, but I gained six pounds
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of muscle, and so I thought I should have been
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able to lose more weight during that time. Like the
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scale should reflect when you go in and actually like
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do a dexa or whatever, and you're like, oh, so
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that's what happens. That explains that. But it's frustrating if
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what your original goal looks like is scale.
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Weight, and I like, if I get an athlete and
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I've done it multiple times, it is very discouraging to
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people early on in their weight loss journey to see
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the scale not move, and so I try and avoid
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that with my clients, where I'll tell them the scale
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isn't going to be what's.
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The boss of our weight loss?
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Here?
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What I want you to focus more on is the
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weight that you're moving, like here in the gym with
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your lifts, and how you look in the mirror. Let
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those two things guide you more than what the scale says,
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especially early on, because it is very discouraging, because I
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know through experience right where early on, when I wouldn't
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see the scale move between like two point fifty to
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to two forty pounds, it was super discouraging because I
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was doing my best to try and lose that weight,
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but in my head I didn't realize that I was
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building the muscle at the same time. So now as
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a trainer, I try and translate that to my clients
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by not stressing them so much.
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About what the scale says.
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Let's just focus on getting those lifts up, getting on focus,
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focus on getting stronger, and visually they'll see a difference.
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And so if visually they see a difference and the
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scale stays the same, then what are you gonna trust more? Right, Like,
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let's not get depressed over the scale when I can
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be happy that, Hey, maybe the double chin's going away,
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maybe the love handles are flattening out, maybe my biceps
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coming through a little bit better, My cap, my adult
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cap is showing a little more.
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The scale might say the same thing, but obviously you.
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Look different than than when we started, and that that
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helps motivate people more.
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That keeps them.
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On better track to keep going, versus if they that
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scale and it stays the same for a couple of
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weeks and they start to kind of fall off the horse.
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Yeah, yeah, I know it's I it's frustrating personally, and
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I think it's just it's it's hard. It's hard to
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get out of that mentality. And you know, the question
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always the US see a million million times and it's
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been going on for decades is can you get stronger
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slash gain muscle while you're losing weight? And the answer
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is kind of can you get stronger build muscle while
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you're losing fat? The answer is absolutely absolutely, And so
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there's those caveats, right, Yeah, And it just goes comes
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down to asking the right question. And if you're you know,
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if you're in a severe calorie restriction, you're probably gonna
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lose muscle and fat. And it just depends on how
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fast you want to go. I've never lost thirty pounds
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in a short period of time, and all I I
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really wanted to lose was thirty forty pounds, and I'm sitting,
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you know, having lost twenty ish and it just keeps
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keeps bobbing around in that you know, little wave, and
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my weight is notoriously sticky anyway. So I'm saying that,
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although I know the recomp thing is happening, I'm still
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frustrated because I would, you know, I would like to
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be able to look at the scale and see it move.
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That's yeah, And like I said, that's that's just like
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a big mental thing to get over, right. Then that's
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very individual dependent as someone like yourself or me who's
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been kind of in the fitness industry a little longer,
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Like I said, with myself, that was a difficult thing too,
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not seeing the scale move. Where we didn't have people
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like how I how I tell my clients now, where
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we're like, we're not focused on the scale. When I
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was up, when I was younger, especially like in high
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school and stuff, the scale was like that's what matters,
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that's what that's what dictates everything. If you don't weigh
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this much, you're not doing anything. If you're not losing
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or gaining X amount of pounds a week, then you're
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not doing anything versus now. I think the mentality hash
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shifted a little bit to where it's like, Okay, we
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understand what recamping is. We understand that muscle is a
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lot denser than fat, So the scale might go up
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a little bit if but you're building a lot more muscle,
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you're building a lot more strength, you're physically leaning out,
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but you might be at the same weight for a
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little while longer.
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Or really long time. Speaking personally, it can be a
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really long time. Yeah, and yeah, it's.
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Yeah.
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Another one I think that a lot of people face
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is any kind of like event, like a family thing
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or whatever that involves food, and you get like two
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voices in your head, one of them being you know,
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stay super whatever, you know, super tight, and the other
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voice is kind of well, like you need to have
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balance too, and you need to like enjoy uhha sometimes
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and it and even if you say, okay, so I'm
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gonna allow myself this much of an indulgence, this is going.
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To be a higher calorie day or whatever.
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And you know, there are some of the tracking apps
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and stuff that will let you do like a weak
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budget for calories versus a daily but versus daily yeah,
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which is a good approach if you can stay on
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top of it and you're not like you end up
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on day seven and you just can't eat it all.
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It's such air and water and you know, I think
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good thoughts. I don't know.
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With that in mind, it becomes very I would say
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goal dependent, like what is your goal in this phase
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of your dieting, in this phase of your training. Like,
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for example, if I've got someone who's prepping for a
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bodybuilding show, right, and everything and their mom is lined
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up in these last couple months where we've got Christmas,
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we've got Thanksgiving, we've got he's got twelve different birthdays
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all week to week to week, Right, I'm gonna ask him,
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I'm like, how bad do you want to do this show?
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How bad do you want to compete and be your
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best at this show? And then it becomes that mental
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battle of okay, what is the priority here? Is it
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balance or is it are we trying to win this show?
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So it's all dependent on.
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What those goals are.
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Where it's like, in that situation, I would say, let's
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lock in, bro, like, let's let's compete and win at
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this show. You can skip all that. There's gonna be
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more birthdays, there's gonna be more holidays. You want to
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do this show, you want to win.
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At this show. Let's lock in for that.
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Versus if someone's just you know, more of on a
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like a lifestyle diet where they can afford to cheat
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week here and there, they can't afford to cheat day
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here and there. They're not so pressed on losing fifty
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pounds in fifty days or something crazy like that, right
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where they're like, hey, you know, by the end of
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the year, I want to be a little bit lighter
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than I was at the start of the year and
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just be more a fit, more active. Then they do
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have that leeway to hey, I could for someone's birthday,
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I can go out and eat with them, or for
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the holidays, you know, I can splurge on the calories
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a little.
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Bit more so.
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To me, it's all very goal dependent if you want
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to be absolutely locked in like me, I've missed a
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few different events during this cut, and it was a
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little bit hard juggling that in my mind and feeling
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bad about missing them. But at the same time I
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had to remind myself that this is the mission at hand.
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I need to finish this cut. I need to prove
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myself that I can do it, and I can be
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very strict with it. So missing out on these things
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now isn't as bad as I would feel throwing the
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whole cut away by by indulging in an excess of
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calories for a few days, because that's how I would
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feel if I did break the cut for a night
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out of Korean barbecue or something, right, because the goal
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is to stay as strict as possible with it, versus
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if I was just, you know, on a casual cut
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where I had the rest of the year to lose.
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Twenty pounds or something like that.
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Right, then I would be able to give myself that
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freedom to I will go out this weekend or next
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weekend or whatever it is and eat a little bit extra,
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not stress about it too much.
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I think. Another one is if you're using a tracking
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app of any kind, actually being able to document what
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you're eating. If you eat home cooked food, it's difficult
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to break everything down and be sure you've gotten it.
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And like you throw in the description of what you're eating,
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and you're going to get something that's packaged, you know,
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because that's what people are putting in and that's why
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how these databases form. They're largely just things that are
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that you can buy places, you know, restaurants or Trader
488
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Joe's or you know, just national brands whatever. So it's
489
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.759
difficult to really know how much of whatever you're getting,
490
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.119
even even I don't know, even if you're cooking it yourself,
491
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you know, and you measure everything, you're not probably the
492
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.319
only person eating it. And so like, how much did
493
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:26.160
I get and how much?
494
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:26.559
How much?
495
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:27.559
How much?
496
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Yeah, exactly exactly.
497
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.200
I think that's more. I think that's super challenging, and
498
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.319
I think that the databases very in accuracy. I have
499
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:43.680
used four different apps during this time in just trying
500
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.000
things out and see what what I'm most comfortable with.
501
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.200
I ended up back at the first one because I
502
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.920
can do like a daily daily budget versus versus the
503
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:59.880
same amount all the time, because I looked at it
504
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.880
Calory cycling and decided maybe that I was going to
505
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.839
do that, and so I have been. I can't say
506
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.480
that it's been perfect honestly though, but I have the
507
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.440
same thing for breakfast every morning. It's kind of on
508
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.839
the carbeavyside, But like, I know my gut and I
509
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.960
know I need to I know, I need to have
510
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:17.960
like a lot of fiber.
511
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.680
Yeah, you need to feel up too, especially at the
512
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:21.319
start of the day.
513
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:27.279
Yeah, And exactly the same proportion of stuff between apps
514
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:28.400
gives me different.
515
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.440
Number, gives you different numbers.
516
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.920
Yeah, the one I'm using right now is like forty
517
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:38.440
five or fifty calories showing less than what the other one.
518
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.640
The other one was like, well the fuck. I mean,
519
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.279
it's the accuracy of the databases and you, I mean
520
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.680
you can look at the boxes or whatever. Yeah, but
521
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:50.640
and then calculated all yourself.
522
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.680
There's you can absolutely do all the due diligence and
523
00:27:55.759 --> 00:28:01.880
back end work to give yourself at least a better
524
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.279
idea of what everything has, especially if you cook everything
525
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:07.079
at home right like you can you can learn and
526
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.839
memorize what calorie density of eggs and ground beef and
527
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.119
rice is per serving. And you can absolutely do all that.
528
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.240
But that, like we're saying, is that's not everybody's going
529
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.400
to do that. Not everybody's going.
530
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.400
To break out the little scale, break out the measuring
531
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:28.319
cups every single time they're going to eat or every
532
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:33.200
single time they're going to cook their prep. And that
533
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.559
is a barrier to entry for clean eating.
534
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.400
And again, one of the things that makes it so
535
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.400
hard is all these other processed foods are packaged and
536
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.480
ready to go. They've got all the numbers on them,
537
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.359
so that gives people that kind of false sense of
538
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.920
security where they're like, Okay, I'm only eating X amount
539
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.880
of servings, which the box says is X amount of
540
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.000
calories because it's so much easier. Then I'm going to
541
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.119
look up how many calories, how much, what the macros
542
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.079
on the eggs are, and then I'm going to measure
543
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.359
them out. I'm going to separate the whites from the yellows.
544
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.119
I'm going to measure out an exact cup of rice
545
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.759
every single time I serve it. I'm going to weigh
546
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.000
out my potatoes and have the exact number of ounces
547
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.440
on potatoes that I cook before and after I cook them,
548
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.440
the measure out the oil that I use.
549
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.400
Like that's all. That all makes it.
550
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.240
Very difficult to do because it is so tedious, and
551
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.559
that sounds like an eating disorder it objectively.
552
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.759
Objectively it sounds like which to me is crazy.
553
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.000
Right, Like if I say that to people that this
554
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.079
is how I eat and this is this is what
555
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.359
I do when I eat, they think I'm crazy, which
556
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.359
should be the opposite, right, Like, no, Like what I'm
557
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:52.960
doing is actually a lot healthier, but the way it's
558
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.799
set up, the way we're indoctrinated to think about it
559
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.559
is it sounds like an eating disorder, like you're doing
560
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:00.000
too much.
561
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.240
Yeah, you're you're a little too obsessively focused on it.
562
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.599
And sometimes those are people who you know are actually
563
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.160
getting good results, but but they but they're not feeling it,
564
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.119
you know what I mean, they don't you know, they've
565
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.880
they've got a dysmorphia thing happening, even not just a
566
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:28.000
body dysmorphia, but like a you know, a psychological block
567
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.240
on feeling like they're making progress.
568
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah that.
569
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:41.799
Sucks, SeaBASS. You got any You strike me as a
570
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:46.279
guy who have who maybe was challenged by gaining weight
571
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.720
over time, by trying to gain weight.
572
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:50.960
So when I was younger, I used to be like
573
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.519
I think I was sitting at like two hundred pounds.
574
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.839
That was like younger, probably like before high school. And
575
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.400
then I just started working out and running in also
576
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.640
your gross spurt, so I just I got taller, so
577
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:05.920
I got skinnier, six.
578
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:08.480
D readhead.
579
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.839
So at first, yeah, I struggled with gaining weight, and
580
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.559
same thing. You just kind of read things on the
581
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.799
internet or you see like people on YouTube like oh
582
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.440
you need to just fucking eat, just eat whatever just
583
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.759
to gain weight. So I did like a dirty bulk,
584
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.519
which you just eat whatever the fuck. Yeah, anything from
585
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:31.839
like fast food to whatever.
586
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:35.079
That dollar manu, yeah to that dollar minion is different.
587
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.759
And then I got up to like two hundred twenty
588
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.759
and from there I just felt sluggish. I just didn't
589
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.400
feel h I guess you could see, like say, like
590
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.119
an athlete anymore.
591
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.200
So I started.
592
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To cut down and then I felt a lot better,
593
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.200
and then obviously you you fall off, gained back, went
594
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:01.960
up to two twenty, and now this time around is challenging, challenging.
595
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.720
It's not easy to take it off anymore.
596
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.839
I'm just sometimes the struggle is I struggle with the
597
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.200
just trying to bring the weight down. Same thing where
598
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.279
I look at the scale and I'm like, damn, that
599
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.839
weight is not going down, or my weight fluctuates a
600
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.640
lot where I can go one day I can be
601
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.079
like to eighteen, and then the next like two three
602
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.920
days after I'm like two fourteen. I'm like, what the fuck?
603
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.519
What the hell happened there. I've had swings of up
604
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.759
to seven pounds in a day in a day, and
605
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.799
it's like that's really crazy in the morning tonight, like
606
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.920
what the hell on top of that?
607
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.200
Like different scales? Yeah, yeah, different scales, and you're just there,
608
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.480
like which one do? You just start pointing out all
609
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:47.200
of them, like which one do?
610
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:47.720
I believe?
611
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:52.119
I think when it comes to that using regardless of accuracy,
612
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.799
using the same one consistently will give you a better
613
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.440
idea than trying to find the one that's actually accurate.
614
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.000
Two scales in the house. One of them is connected
615
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.039
to my phone. The other one is connected to nothing.
616
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.400
And the real that the real test for me is
617
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319
when I get on the one that's connected to my phone,
618
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.759
because that like makes a record whenever. Uh. The other
619
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.799
one I can get on at anytime, but it will
620
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:22.000
vary from you know, three or four pounds between the
621
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.039
times that I step on it, Like, get on, look
622
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.079
at a number, get off, Get on again. There's a
623
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:33.319
different number. They're like, well, it's really really a roller
624
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:39.359
coaster of emotions because and and it tends to weigh lighter,
625
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.960
but it's not exclusively lighter.
626
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.000
Sometimes it's a little heavy.
627
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.200
Sometimes it's heavier than the other one is like you know,
628
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.839
and and and I get a phobia about getting on
629
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:51.720
the one that that.
630
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.279
Oh no, it's terrifying.
631
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.839
It is terrifying sometimes, Like I use the scale here
632
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.480
and I use it first thing in the morning when
633
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.559
I get here, because that's like, again, you want to
634
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.519
build that consistency. You want to use it at the
635
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.960
same time, the same spot under the same conditions as
636
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.960
most as the most times you.
637
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.800
Can to keep it, keep it, keep consistent.
638
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:17.440
Yeah, And but some days, like I'll come in and
639
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.280
I'm like, like I feel I feel like it's gonna
640
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.599
be heavy today or I feel.
641
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.800
Like I'm gonna be off today, and I'll have that phobia, right.
642
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.840
Yeah, yeah. Do you have a trick to feeling like
643
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.079
you're getting an accurate reading out of this this scale?
644
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.440
Because this scale befuddles me. It really moves around a lot.
645
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.320
Sometimes it does.
646
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.960
But I'll get off, I'll wait a little bit, let
647
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.960
it zero in, and then just stand on it, and
648
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.440
then I'll do it a couple different times.
649
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.639
Until it's until it's consistent.
650
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.960
Yeah, because it does. This one does bounce around a
651
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.159
little bit a lot. Uh huh. So I'll just keep
652
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.000
doing it until I'll do it like if I do
653
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:59.880
it six or eight times, you'll you'll get a good.
654
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.840
Have to get out of mind because I feel like
655
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.360
I've changed if I changed my mind to the weight.
656
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:05.400
Changes on it.
657
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:11.880
It's like up and down all the time anyway. I
658
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.639
think another one that really gets a lot of people
659
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.960
is looking at social media.
660
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.159
Oh that's huge.
661
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.800
That's huge because it depending upon who you're looking at.
662
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:36.199
You can get a real you can get unrealistic expectations.
663
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.079
You can get like a shame component if you're if
664
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.360
you feel like you're not like getting where you want
665
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:42.679
to go.
666
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.840
Yeah, versus the Europeers around you, even if it's not
667
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.519
like a big influencer, right, even if it's just like
668
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.320
your local community around you.
669
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:52.039
Say you started your weight loss.
670
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.519
Around the same time as someone else did, and they're
671
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.440
making these crazy strides and you're thinking to yourself, damn,
672
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.480
like what are they doing different? Or or like what
673
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.719
am I doing wrong? But you never really know, like
674
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:09.239
the circumstances, like they could be in a completely different space.
675
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:11.920
And you don't know what. You don't know what they're
676
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.719
what they're taking, what they're taking, you know, what they're doing.
677
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:16.840
You don't know what their CLOrk intake looks like. You
678
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:18.840
don't know any of those things. And they could be
679
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.280
like severely restricting your calories or whatever.
680
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:27.000
And yeah, they could be drinking water once a day, right.
681
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:29.400
Yeah, they could be Yeah, all sorts of things that
682
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.440
you know, they could be restricting not just carbs, but
683
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:39.159
restricting salt. So they're not like yes, water or you
684
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.679
know whatever. It's it's difficult. And and by extension, the
685
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.519
mirror is a problem as well, because you know, certain
686
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.159
ankles look good and certain ankles look awful, and you
687
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:52.679
know a lot of people talk about, you know, you
688
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.639
should take progress pictures or whatever because it's difficult to
689
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:00.320
realize how much change there is. But if you, you know,
690
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.360
get on a dysmorphia track and you you're you focus
691
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.000
in on the things that are a problem and you
692
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.880
don't see the things that are positive. You know. For me,
693
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:11.280
like one of the major positives is like I have
694
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.400
veins in my arms. Yeah, crazy, And I did not
695
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.000
have them you know when this when this started, and
696
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.199
I haven't really had them very much before. I mean
697
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.840
some but you know, part of it is that I'm
698
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.679
getting old and so like I'm losing some of the
699
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.159
connective tissue in the fascia and so the mains show
700
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.599
up more. That's just that's just that's just a thing.
701
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.880
That's something I don't have any control over. But they
702
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.920
don't show up if I'm fat, so you.
703
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:38.599
Know, Yeah, No, it's still like a good sign.
704
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:42.000
So it's still a good sign. Yeah, but you know,
705
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.360
it's it can be challenging, and it's like you know,
706
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.639
when your how your clothes fit is a measure for
707
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.480
some people. Yeah, but you know you're going going back
708
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.320
to going back to the recomp thing. You know, some
709
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.559
things fit better and some things if it worse.
710
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.639
Yeah yeah, like if your shirts feel tighter up top.
711
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.519
Yeah, but your pants are getting looser than obviously you
712
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.119
know that's a that's a pretty good sign.
713
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:08.519
Yea.
714
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.000
The dysmorphia thing, I think is just a huge thing
715
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.719
in the fitness space. Yeah, where I feel like the
716
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.280
deeper you get into fitness, the better you get at it,
717
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:25.400
the more dysmorphia kind of crawls into your mind. Yeah,
718
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.159
Because the people with the worst dysmorphia I've seen are
719
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.320
the guys that look incredible, like show ready guys, super
720
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.079
strong guys, been busting weights for ten plus years.
721
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:37.960
They're the ones that have the.
722
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.320
Worst and most crippling dysmorphia on the planet, versus some
723
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.079
of the more younger guys that are just getting into
724
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.360
it right, Like they have that bright eyed delusion still
725
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:50.760
where they're excited to take take their shirts off.
726
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.000
In the gym and they're ready to go.
727
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.800
They're wearing the tiniest little stringers.
728
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.679
And sometimes shouldn't be Yeah, and they well, I mean
729
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.480
it should shouldn't be that, Like that's a judgmental thing
730
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.599
to say. I don't really I don't really mean it
731
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:04.880
like that.
732
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:05.679
I'm not like that.
733
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.079
But you know, like they're not filling out these shirts,
734
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.280
right yeah, versus like very optimistic. Yeah, it's very optimistic
735
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.320
versus like you see the more experienced guys, like they
736
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.400
always have the four.
737
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.719
XL polo shirt on. Yeah.
738
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.519
Yeah, they're just like swimming in their.
739
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.079
Never showing nothing. Uh like Mike, right, Mike always wears
740
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:29.039
the giant shirts.
741
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.679
Yeah, I rarely show stuff.
742
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.880
I was telling you guys the other day because yeah, Mike,
743
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.480
you know, Mike is Mike is still in Texas and
744
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:40.480
other places and he's working with Agent zero and uh,
745
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:42.880
he posted a picture the other day that look, he
746
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.079
looks great. He looks probably as good as I've ever
747
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.119
seen him. Look, although the lighting was actually you know,
748
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.679
giving a lot of it. He had the goon lighting, Yeah,
749
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.519
giving a lot of grace. They call it.
750
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.840
That's what they're calling it right now, shout out Nick's
751
00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:58.840
strength and power.
752
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.880
Goon lighting. I had not heard that one. Yeah, But
753
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.599
when I first met him, you know, years and years ago,
754
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.280
like he was still in in in his basketball head
755
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.519
and he was he was wearing two shirts all the time,
756
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:18.639
and you had no idea like what he actually looked like.
757
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:20.960
And then once you see that he's even then he
758
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.719
was you know, he was skinny, but he was, Yeah,
759
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.119
he was carrying a reasonable amount of muscle. Like he was.
760
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:32.960
He was anxious for social media recognition and following and stuff.
761
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.960
And it's like, dude, you could take your shirt off.
762
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.760
You could take both of them off, you know, both shirts,
763
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.480
but both of them. Yes, you could take them off,
764
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.920
and you would in like people would go, oh, wow,
765
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.199
he's really you know whatever. And he was focused more
766
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.840
on on on you know, the strength part of it
767
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:57.480
and and the you know, in this the social cues
768
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.599
part of it. You know yah, and less on the
769
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:06.039
the actual esthetics, the aesthetics. Yeah yeah, So I mean
770
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.000
some someday when he's back, we'll have to ask him
771
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.400
about why that's the truth. But no, I just from
772
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.239
the from you know, from the beginning, I was like,
773
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.559
you could, you could do that, and you would you know,
774
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:18.719
like you could do that and a lot of people
775
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.039
can't and it's just.
776
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.320
Like not comfortable and that and that to build off
777
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.760
of that, right, like someone say someone that's a little
778
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.559
bit heavier, it's got a lot more fat on their
779
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.119
on their body, sees that on on social media. They
780
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.679
see someone like Mike or see someone like David Laid.
781
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.760
They see all the popular Instagrammers and they're like, damn,
782
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.000
like those guys look insane, Like I'm never gonna like
783
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:45.199
they look at themselves there, they feel like they'll never
784
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.559
achieve that, they'll never reach something like that. And uh,
785
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:54.320
coming from that point of view, I'm still nowhere near
786
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.519
where I would want to be. But I have look
787
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.159
I look back at how I look back then, and
788
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.719
like I've surpassed every limit that I had in my
789
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.480
mind back then to where I was like I'll never
790
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.079
be able to see myself look like this, or see
791
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.639
these kinds of muscles on me because I'm too fat
792
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.559
at this point. Now, like I've surpassed every limitation that
793
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.199
I had set for myself and then some. But no
794
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.239
matter what, like the dysmorphia.
795
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.519
Is always still there. It's always still there.
796
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.400
So one thing I've had to like force into my
797
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.440
own mind is like comparison is a thief of joy,
798
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:41.159
is to look at yourself in a vacuum. Block everything
799
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.119
else out. Just look at yourself objectively and compare yourself
800
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.119
to just yourself, And that way you're able to celebrate
801
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:53.400
your own achievements in a vacuum. That helps because now
802
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:56.079
you're not like, oh, well this guy got ripped in
803
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:01.039
two years and he looks better than I'll ever look.
804
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.000
Instead of thinking that way, it's like, oh, I got
805
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.159
I got this fit in two years and three years
806
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.119
whatever it took me to to do it, and I
807
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:12.880
look better than I ever did.
808
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.760
What's stopping me from going further than this?
809
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:19.280
If I could have, if I could do three hundred
810
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.039
pounds to two hundred pounds, what's stopping me from going
811
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.280
two hundred pounds to one ninety super lean, super shredded.
812
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.920
I've already done this much work. Why would I stop now?
813
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.639
Yeah, that's likely when I got my my when I
814
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.639
did the decks a few weeks ago, and then I
815
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.840
saw what the number was, like, well, I could go
816
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.760
down X amount more and probably stay there even though
817
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:49.360
it's hard, but I accomplished this much, so I could
818
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.000
do you know, this much more and sticking there. I
819
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.920
think that maybe one of the Another one of the
820
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:01.000
struggles is the difficulty and ignore that when you get
821
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.280
where you're going, there's a maintenance thing that looks nothing
822
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:10.239
like how you ate before or what your activity levels
823
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.599
were before. Like you're getting you're just like you're literally
824
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:18.280
committing to a different lifestyle before. You can't. Like it's
825
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:22.559
not like solving a problem where there's an endpoint and
826
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.519
you can and then okay, well the problem is over
827
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.639
and so I can do and it's yeah, it's just
828
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.239
it's it's it's kind of always and that I mean
829
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.559
you you hear a lot of different versions of that
830
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.599
if you see a lot of people say things like
831
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:40.239
that on on on social media and whatever, but it
832
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.360
is freakishly true.
833
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.400
Oh and this is like one of the tenants I
834
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.199
live by is to fall in love with the journey,
835
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.360
not the destination, right, because that's going to carry you
836
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.920
further because it is a lifestyle change it is it
837
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.280
is something that you're going to have to do for
838
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.320
the rest of your life. Like once you you get
839
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.800
to a certain point, I feel like it gets easier
840
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.800
because you do fall in love with that process and
841
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.000
you no longer look at it as work versus it
842
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.280
just being your lifestyle. But it is hard to get
843
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:14.840
to that point.
844
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.360
And two, as time goes on, you have to you
845
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:24.960
have to recognize when when your mindset shifts because of
846
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.280
situations changing, and then you allow yourself, you know, like here,
847
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.639
here's an example, Like in the couple of years going
848
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:40.440
into to twenty twenty, like I would have fast food
849
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:44.920
like two or three times a year literally just I
850
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:50.719
just completely avoided it. I like it, but after not
851
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.599
eating for it for a while, I hate it. Just
852
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.000
doesn't taste right or whatever. But then we started building
853
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.000
this place and COVID was going on, and you could
854
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.840
get it was harder to get things like you know,
855
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.639
chicken and beef from yeah, you know, and except the
856
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.159
fast food restaurants were getting that ship. And I was
857
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.400
working here, you know, hours a day, building the place up,
858
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.840
and I just started eating fast food again, and it
859
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:19.599
was difficult to stop. It was. It was very difficult
860
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.800
to stop, even though I had been very disciplined about it,
861
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.000
been very disciplined about a lot of it, you know,
862
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:27.800
and then and the situation changes, and like your outlook
863
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.480
on the world changes, and you just don't it just
864
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.360
becomes less important or you know, it's like, well, things
865
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.400
are difficult, so I'm going to give myself grace on
866
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:37.519
this or whatever.
867
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.159
And you'll kind of open the flood gates.
868
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.679
Yeah, And it's not not immediately. It's it's a slow leak.
869
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.119
And you have to think like the millions of dollars
870
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:49.880
as they pour into engineering the food to be that way, yeah,
871
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:53.840
to make you kind of hooked on it, And that
872
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.679
is very difficult to work against.
873
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.239
It is. It is like fighting an army on your
874
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.559
own right where if.
875
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.480
You have a couple a couple of weeks where you
876
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.559
have to get that fast food because it's the only
877
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.000
thing that's convenient, it's definitely going to grab you by
878
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.440
the throat again and really drag you into that slump
879
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.159
because that's what it's engineered to do. So I can
880
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:21.079
definitely see that where it does become difficult again. Just
881
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:25.119
slipping for a couple of weeks or whatever because it's convenient,
882
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.480
because the situation.
883
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:27.440
Requires it or whatever.
884
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.119
It will drag you back down and then you have
885
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.639
to do the whole beginning phase of getting out of
886
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.599
it again and building that discipline up again because you
887
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.280
are working against these billion dollar corporations that pour a
888
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.880
ton of money into engineering. The taste, all the different
889
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.559
satiation feelings that that food instills in you, like anytime
890
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.159
you eat a burger, like you always want another one,
891
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.039
no matter what, like no matter where you go.
892
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.800
I don't have that problem. But it's it's the French
893
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:01.280
fries man.
894
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:05.880
Yeah, like the fries, the nuggets, all the little sauces,
895
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:06.719
nuggies do.
896
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.199
Not do it for me. I just noted. But the
897
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:11.599
French fries. Yeah, like a really good French fries or
898
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.920
a really bad French fry, I don't know, just French fries.
899
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.400
I saw a video somebody who did the other day
900
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:25.320
talking about putting peanut butter on cheese, and like, my
901
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.079
weaknesses are peanut butter and cheese and I never have
902
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:33.679
had it together there. I wonder what that's like.
903
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.119
Now we gotta find out.
904
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.559
He's like, yeah, and today we're going to use some
905
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.800
peanut butter and cheese to test the theory about whatever.
906
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:47.360
That's a crazy combination.
907
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:52.719
Yeah. Yeah. It was like Landa Lake's American cheese singles
908
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:56.360
like yeah, just the pre slice ones and they just
909
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:00.559
like pour peanut butter and yeah, yes, spread peanut on that.
910
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:02.719
I just I can't. I can't even do.
911
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.559
Not even a sandwich. It's just a slice of cheese.
912
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:12.719
And a slice of cheese. Yeah. Uh. Kind of the
913
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.400
last point running back to uh to uh dysmorphia for
914
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.280
a second. I feel like body dysmorphia is the physical
915
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.079
version of imposter syndrome.
916
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:28.079
Mm hmm. I could see that.
917
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.280
Yeah, I'd not really thought about it that way before,
918
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.079
but it you know. And and they say the new
919
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:40.679
the new thing imposter syndrome is that it's it's only
920
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.960
a bad thing if it becomes an obsession.
921
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:45.079
Yeah m hm.
922
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.400
But otherwise it keeps competent people from thinking too much
923
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:50.400
of themselves.
924
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:51.159
Keeps them humble.
925
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.440
Yeah, it is a humility thing. I think it is
926
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.639
like a like a built in safety that we have
927
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.559
in our minds to keep us kind and a humble.
928
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:01.760
Yeah.
929
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:05.480
Because if you do ignore that imposter syndrome and you
930
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.679
allow your ego to get too big, like it can
931
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.639
get out of hand pretty quickly. So like whenever I
932
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:13.880
have the imposter syndrome, it always makes me just reflect,
933
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.480
why am I feeling this imposter syndrome? So I'll go
934
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.400
back on whatever I'm feeling it about, reflect on myself
935
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:22.440
and see if I can improve myself any better to
936
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:26.079
get over because if I have doubts of myself, then
937
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:28.239
they're there for a reason, right, So I kind of
938
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:34.719
utilize that to better myself. Dysmorphia being like the physical manifestation,
939
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.880
I can absolutely see that because it is basically just
940
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.840
imposter syndrome about your physical body. Yeah, where you look
941
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:42.920
at the mirror.
942
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.400
And you don't believe that everybody else what everybody else
943
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:51.800
is seeing in reality. Yeah, it's difficult. And my biggest, honestly,
944
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:56.079
my biggest thing with with imposter syndrome is back in
945
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:57.960
the day, back and you know when back in the
946
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.360
powercast days when it was so incredibly popular, like it
947
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.920
didn't seem all that real and then and I didn't
948
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.360
I didn't put a kind of enough of myself into
949
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.679
it into it. I didn't like I didn't pat myself
950
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.400
on the back and of and like it was and
951
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.719
honestly that that was kind of weaponized against me. You
952
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.679
know when people tell you you don't matter that much, like, well,
953
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.239
you know, fuck you, And but the fuck you was
954
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.960
not the first place you go. The first place you
955
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:27.320
go is.
956
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.199
Oh, you're right, yeah, yeah, you you fall into it
957
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:33.760
and uh, like I've had that issue with imposter syndrome
958
00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:36.679
on certain stuff too. But again, like I said, like
959
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.800
what I learned to what I taught myself was to Okay,
960
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.840
if I have that feeling, let's see why in my
961
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.599
own mind, why do I have that feeling?
962
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:46.280
What do I doubt about myself?
963
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.320
Like early on, when I was doing photography, like imposter
964
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:56.679
syndrome was a huge thing to me, Like I would
965
00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.760
I would do mostly automotive photography, and people like love
966
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:04.840
the photos that I was turning in, but in my
967
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.760
head I always felt like they could always be better,
968
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.199
and so I didn't feel like I was giving a
969
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.719
good enough product or good enough showing of my talent
970
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.559
of my skill. And slowly I began to teach myself, Okay,
971
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.559
why do I like what is it about these photos
972
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.159
that I don't like even though the owner's telling me
973
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.199
that it looks great, that it looks incredible, that they
974
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.079
love it, And so I would instead of feeling bad
975
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.119
about it and allowing myself.
976
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.599
To be held back by it, I would use.
977
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.039
It as a chance as a reminder to let's reflect
978
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:44.679
and let's see what can I improve, what can.
979
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:45.119
I do better?
980
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.360
That way I can get over that feeling. I wouldn't
981
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.760
allow myself to think that I'm the best thing in
982
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:56.079
the world since sliced bread, right, but I would use
983
00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.159
it in contrast to that, I would be like, Okay,
984
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.119
maybe I should have shot it this way, and that
985
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.440
next time I'll shoot it this way, or next time
986
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.159
I'll use more more angles, or or I'll use the
987
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.079
lights differently.
988
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:08.760
And slowly I got.
989
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:15.639
To see my my own photos improve to myself and
990
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.199
then just getting the outside feedback, I was able to
991
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:22.119
appreciate that more. I was able to turn over some
992
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.480
photos they love it. Then I would feel satisfied in that.
993
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.239
I want to just feel the imposter syndrome where it's like, oh, like,
994
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.559
I feel bad about turning these over because I'm.
995
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.280
Not happy with them.
996
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.519
If the if the client is happy with them, then
997
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.159
then I'd be happy with them.
998
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.400
Yeah. Sometimes, like I you know, I mean, the thing
999
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:42.440
I do when I'm not doing this is writing stuff,
1000
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.159
and and and I've real challenge with if things are
1001
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.239
coming together the way I want them to, you know,
1002
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.960
like I don't even want anybody to see it. And and
1003
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.199
that's you know, that's counter productive because it really it
1004
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.840
really messes with your timeline. Yeah. So I wondered if
1005
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.519
shof by by talking about just like a couple of
1006
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:09.280
of influencers, social media influences that we think are actually
1007
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.280
doing a good job. I want to start with a
1008
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.480
guy who was on the show a little bit ago,
1009
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.079
and that's Dan film and Power List Dietitian. I think
1010
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.039
is the information he puts out is legit. It's not
1011
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:24.199
It's not dramatically different from some of the other folks
1012
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.000
that I that I've been following for a long time.
1013
00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.760
I'm kind of leaning Lane Norton and Jordan Sayat and
1014
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:33.320
that folks out of this because everybody follows them, everybody
1015
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:42.159
followers whatever. But Dan Filman, Power Power Liat Dietitian a
1016
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.880
good follow always solid information. He he he doesn't post
1017
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:53.039
anything that he can't back up, really and Uh, he's
1018
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:56.480
you know, I didn't realize until I had him on
1019
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.400
the show that he's not the tallest guy, but he's jacked,
1020
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.320
and he's a legitimate powerlifter and legitimate us U S
1021
00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:06.960
a p L powerlifter, and so that's he's kind of
1022
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.480
my my first uh my first suggestion. Yeah, you know,
1023
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:15.639
I I followed him consistently for quite quite a while
1024
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.360
or so, who you.
1025
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:24.039
Got, I've got doctor Alex Tatum. Uh. I know Sebastian
1026
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:25.679
has been working with him for a little while on
1027
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.840
on his on the media side, so I've gotten kind
1028
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.719
of glimpses of what he does here and there throughout
1029
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.760
Sebastian's tenure working with him.
1030
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.360
But like the stuff that I've seen, it.
1031
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.920
Would be uh so it'll be doctor like d R
1032
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:43.199
and then.
1033
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:53.239
Is either one of them him?
1034
00:55:53.360 --> 00:56:00.880
No, let me see all one word, all.
1035
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:07.320
One word, no dots. Social media is so strong, I
1036
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:18.480
can't find him else. No, let me send it to you.
1037
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.000
And he makes a like he's talking about the pharmacceutical
1038
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:32.440
side a lot more.
1039
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:36.199
In the way he.
1040
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.639
Talks about it from the videos I've seen, It's super
1041
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:44.239
digestible for for just like regular people to listen and
1042
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.880
learn Like he's not over complicating things. He's using a
1043
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.079
lot of like references here and there that are easily
1044
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.599
relatable and just spreading the knowledge out there. And I
1045
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.199
think we're at the point where the floodgates are open,
1046
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.440
Like it's not a secret anymore. People are using pharmaceuticals,
1047
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:09.320
they're using peptides, they're using gear. So I think the
1048
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:13.239
best approach we can have towards that is education, is
1049
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.920
making sure that people know what they're taking, know why
1050
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.159
they're taking it, know how to take it. Because people
1051
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.119
are gonna do what they're going to do regardless of
1052
00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:23.159
what you tell them. We've seen it happen time and
1053
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.800
time again. You can't stop it from happening. So the
1054
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.519
best thing we can do, I think, is to educate everybody.
1055
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:36.079
That way, we can increase the awareness. People can be
1056
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.760
a lot smarter about the decisions they make when it
1057
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:43.000
comes to this stuff, and not just throw darts into
1058
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.360
the dark and start pinning just random things here and
1059
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.840
there because some guy on a forum said it, right,
1060
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:56.960
Having educated fellows like this who know exactly what they're
1061
00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.159
talking about, who do all the due diligence and the
1062
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:04.360
research on these on these products, on these on these things,
1063
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.840
and putting the knowledge out there in what I would say,
1064
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:11.840
like Layman's terms, for for just everyday people to understand
1065
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.639
is a big service I think to the industry right now,
1066
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:20.960
especially where we're at, versus not having this knowledge out there.
1067
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.320
Now you've got seventeen year old kids just ordering stuff
1068
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:28.400
online and doing it all willy nilly, versus Hey, if
1069
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.199
they're gonna do it anyways, let's see if we can
1070
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.480
make it as safe as we can, Because, like I said,
1071
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.039
at the end of the day, you're not someone. If
1072
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:38.480
someone has it in their mind that they're going to
1073
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.199
go do something, you're probably not going to stop them.
1074
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:49.800
Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, another one I've got I'm
1075
00:58:49.840 --> 00:59:01.719
gonna have to in. I have the problem of not
1076
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:13.079
remembering his name ever. I only remember what his tagline is. Yeah,
1077
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:21.559
Matt West. Uh. He's got a million followers usually I'm usually,
1078
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:26.159
but I only recently discovered him, so so I'm I'm
1079
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:34.960
leaving that open. He does a lot of food stuff.
1080
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.559
I've seen this up. Yeah.
1081
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:41.719
Fox sucks. Yeah, he's also the Foxer sucks guy. So
1082
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.079
like sending people send him recipes or they send send
1083
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:48.280
him videos that have recipes in them, and then he
1084
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:52.039
will actually recreate them and and he'll like do them
1085
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.719
the legit way, but he also you know, does the
1086
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:56.159
to to either make him.
1087
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:57.800
Taste better or yah, he'll improve.
1088
00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:00.880
Yeah. And and I've actually done a couple of the
1089
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.719
things that he that he you know, a couple of
1090
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.559
the recipes that he has talked about and had pretty
1091
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:11.559
good luck with them results. Yeah. I mean, so the
1092
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:16.199
easiest one is this like low calorie mayonnaise. It's like
1093
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.800
the original video used I saw that fried eggs. Yeah,
1094
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:22.760
he used hard boiled eggs, which why wouldn't you do that?
1095
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.679
And it's like there's there's a you know, a teaspoon
1096
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.719
of of oil in them and a teaspoon of mustard
1097
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.800
and and lemon juice and salt, and it's like that's it,
1098
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.880
and it's it's very eggy, but it's also pretty low calorie.
1099
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.079
Yeah, and it's going to hold you down like when
1100
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.639
you want mayonnaise versus having four hundred calories worth a mayonnaise.
1101
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:48.159
And I'm not a big mayonnaise guy, but period. But
1102
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.280
the the thing that has kept me from like eating tuna,
1103
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:57.960
which is like you know, obviously low car good fats. Yeah,
1104
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.679
for the amount that is the mayonnaise part. Uh huh.
1105
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.719
They're like, well, if you can make the mayonnaise.
1106
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.480
In a healthier, a healthier way.
1107
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.119
And you mix it in with your tunic, just try
1108
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.239
tunas it's the worst.
1109
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:12.880
Yeah, I've been, I've been in the I've been in
1110
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:19.719
the struggle, nothing, nothing.
1111
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:25.960
So I feel very strong about what he's doing. Yeah.
1112
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.239
My only gripe with him is maybe this is Australian,
1113
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:31.320
but instead of saying bone up a teeth, he says
1114
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:31.840
brought up a.
1115
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:34.960
Tight okay, boneapple teeth.
1116
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.559
Yeah, but he's jacked. He's a he's a you know,
1117
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.840
he looks legit. I don't know. I don't know. It
1118
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.039
looks like he maybe does some coaching and stuff too.
1119
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.039
I'm not paying a lot of it.
1120
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.679
I've seen him come up a few bunch of times
1121
01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.519
on my for you page, and what I do like
1122
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.440
is he shows the process right, So he's not like
1123
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.119
because I've seen some of the food influencers where they're like, oh,
1124
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:00.880
let's make a healthy alternative version of it, and it'll
1125
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.559
cut from like the ingredients to the finished product. So
1126
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.679
you never really know if they're actually like using those
1127
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.559
ingredients to make that delicious bowl that they're making or
1128
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.519
this crazy smoothie that they're making. Right, it could just
1129
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.320
be some unhealthy monstrosity of ingredients.
1130
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.280
I particularly like that when he can say, oh this
1131
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.159
this sucks, like, yeah, it sucks.
1132
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.079
Just honestly, I wouldn't need this again.
1133
01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.440
I don't know how to fix it. It's a disaster.
1134
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:28.880
Run away, running, you got any more.
1135
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.559
One that I have is I don't know if I've
1136
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:35.480
only watched a couple of his things. His name is
1137
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.920
James Smith. He's the guy that broke I don't know
1138
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.440
if he completely like was the first one to do it,
1139
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.760
but he's the guy that did the creating gummy scandal.
1140
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.519
Oh yeah, and he like sent things off to the lab.
1141
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.760
The brit Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah he's good. Yeah,
1142
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:58.800
he's he's legit. I back in UH a few years
1143
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:01.519
ago when late Lane Norton has to do podcasts I
1144
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:03.480
haven't listened to yet, and I'm not producing this one.
1145
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:06.840
I produced the last one, UH and and James Smith
1146
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.079
was a guest on there, and I had not really
1147
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.639
encountered him that much, but I was he edited that
1148
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:18.599
episode and yeah he's yeah, he's really really legit. Yeah,
1149
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:22.679
and he's like he's pretty grounded and honest in in
1150
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.920
his uh into social media stuff as far as any wickite.
1151
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.199
I I don't follow him in around and I'm not
1152
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:33.440
an English but it seems like he Yeah, he seems he's.
1153
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:37.480
Very well spoken, he's very well researched from like especially
1154
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.199
like the creating gummy thing, Like he showed all his
1155
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:43.440
back end work. He he wasn't just like throwing random
1156
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.400
lawsuits out and stuff, and now he did like all
1157
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.000
the backend work to really research the subject and really
1158
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.880
got into it. And I think he did a huge
1159
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.519
service to the industry by calling it out because I
1160
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.400
still have like friends that are a lot more casual
1161
01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.719
that'll ask me, hey are these gummies, like like is
1162
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:00.320
this a good bye?
1163
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:01.239
And I'll telling the straight up.
1164
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:03.199
I was like, you're just buy the powder bro like
1165
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.079
it's not hard, just bang for buck, right, like you
1166
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.320
just gonna get so much more.
1167
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:14.800
Yeah, he's James Smith, just James Smith on on Instagram.
1168
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.599
He's got one million followers.
1169
01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:20.639
To start to get that, he must have started Instagram
1170
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.800
when it first James, he has been around a lot.
1171
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:27.599
He's been around a long time.
1172
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.039
The most generic like name on the planet.
1173
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.840
Yeah, like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's like I I started
1174
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.719
social media early and I couldn't get just my name
1175
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.079
anywhere at that point. I also have one of the
1176
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:45.039
most common names on the planet, especially in the in
1177
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:50.000
the Western world. Yeah, very very, very common. The two
1178
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:53.039
different spellings of my last name, or the third most
1179
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.079
common surname in Scotland for having's sake, So that's crazy.
1180
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:58.880
A bunch of versions of McDonald's.
1181
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.679
Yeah. Then, and there used to be a site called
1182
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.719
how many of Me you put in your name? And
1183
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.960
you see how many in the United States, and it
1184
01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.639
was like sixteen hundred. Have the guys have the combination
1185
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.679
of my first name last name? Yeah, that's crazy. Not
1186
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.960
middle named was a little smaller, but you know, and
1187
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:22.800
I'm a junior or so what the hell? Uh anymore, guys.
1188
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.599
I've got a like, I'll say, someone like Wesley Visitors.
1189
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:27.960
I don't know.
1190
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:36.760
He's a bodybuilder, classic physique spell for me, so Wesley.
1191
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:41.079
He'll probably come up quick and then vissers that third
1192
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:48.320
one down, this one, no, yeah, the third one.
1193
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:50.920
That actually has a right under your keyboard.
1194
01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:57.880
That one, Okay, another mille following guy, But.
1195
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:00.719
So he yeah, he's he's pretty big.
1196
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.280
I would say he's missing out on the Olympia this
1197
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:07.000
year because he had like a big surgery.
1198
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:10.360
But like I've followed.
1199
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:12.239
Him on YouTube for a while now, I watched his
1200
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.079
videos and he does a really good job at taking
1201
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.239
you through what it's like being like an Olympia caliber bodybuilder,
1202
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:22.360
where he does like he did the whole what I
1203
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.880
eat in the day thing before a lot of like
1204
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.079
Instagram caught onto it. He'll show recipes like how he
1205
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.000
preps is his meals and stuff, like his creamer rice
1206
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:34.960
recipe I think was like one of the early ones
1207
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.400
that got really popular where he showed it step by
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01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.639
step every ingredient how to make like the cream of
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rice that he that he partakes in.
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His positivity in the sports like, it's very.
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Missed.
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I feel like in the past few years where someone
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like him who zero enemies right comes in very respectful
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of all his opponents, very respectful of all his fans especially,
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always takes time out to interact with people, just like
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a genuinely good guy to look up to for the
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younger crowd, I would say, versus some of the more
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toxic like influencers that we have out, they kind of
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get too much spotlight.
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I feel like Wesley's kind.
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Of the opposite of that, where he is very deserving
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of the spotlight because he does set a great example
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for everybody to follow.
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Even through his workouts.
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He's very like well versed in how to how to
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educate people on them, Like he slows everything down. He'll like,
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if he's explaining a lift, he'll break it down completely
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for anyone to pick up on it. So like I'll
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watch him when when I'm learning like a new movement
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or something, or if I'm trying something out, because like
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the cues that he uses to grasp the lifts mentally, like.
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They're always really good and just a great guy. Bless you.
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I just wanted to throw out just a couple of
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honorable mentions just because they're there are a couple of
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other guys that that are that are quite popular. I
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don't really need to dive into their stuff too much,
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but uh, if you're looking for people who like to
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call out other specific social media influencers about things that
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they say that are stupid, James Kappola is very good
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at that, and he's got a pretty good like he's
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sort of balanced approach that he's not trying to look perfect,
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he's just trying to be strong and look good. And
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again had the body dysmorphia, the eating disorder, you know,
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exercise bolima, that that kind of stuff before. And then
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one that I have come around to lately because I
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01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:54.920
had some bias against this person is Zach Talender.
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Oh Zach Okay, Yeah, I watch a lot of Zach.
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Yeah, I've I've started recently. Again. Another I don't know
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what is to his follower count is it's a huge.
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Egger Now, Yeah, he's.
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Really he's really popped off a lot lately. But I
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think his content has maybe gotten more personal in some ways.
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01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:19.600
Yeah, not as some would say cloud chase, Yeah, cloud chasing,
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it's more Yeah, it's more genuine.
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It's more genuine. Yeah. Yeah, like these people that do
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01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.600
not need our help to create more following. But at
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the same time, like if you if you were turned
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01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:38.079
off by anything that he said before, you probably could
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01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:42.880
reevaluate now because it's good information. He's doing other stuff
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that he's done before.
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So that that's one thing I've liked about that because
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I followed him for a while now, like throughout the whole,
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like weightlifting, like Olympic weightlifting journey, and then like when
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01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.279
he was doing like the the lift and talk in
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01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.840
the backyard until where he is at now, watching him
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01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:05.399
kind of grow through that, like mentally and like his
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opinions changing, And.
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That's been nice to see.
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How he's allowed himself to grow. He hasn't boxed himself
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into a certain mentality like what some people will do,
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01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:24.720
where they will remain very steadfast in the mentality whether
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01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:28.159
it's right or wrong, right, they won't change for anything,
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01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.920
like Zach becoming a lot more personal on his social media,
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like allowing people in and seeing what it's like to
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01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:41.920
be like he's an aspiring music artist now yeah, and
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01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.840
just the hardships that come with that, balancing that with
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the gym, just him improving himself physically, mentally and emotionally.
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01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.279
I think has been like I enjoy seeing people go
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01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:59.960
through that. That's very much so more relatable to regular
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01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:04.199
people like us because we see like you can relate
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01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.039
to that. You can be like, Okay, he's going through
1282
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:09.359
the struggle, so me going through the struggle isn't isn't
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01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:09.840
as bad.
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01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.359
I think that this is something I touched about, touched
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on with the guests from last week that that positive
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01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.920
content works a lot better for me now than negative content.
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01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:26.039
But some people thrive on negative content.
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01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:28.760
Yeah, like the call out culture, and well even a
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01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.640
kind of is okay to me because it's like you're
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01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:33.920
trying to hold trying to hold people to a standard
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01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.600
as opposed to just othering people, you know.
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01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:42.319
Like rage baiting. I saw someone on Instagram.
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I can't remember which account it was recently, but they
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were saying they were talking about how they hate to
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01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:51.640
see coaches, like up and coming coaches, especially build their
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01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:56.359
their social media their platforms on rage baiting or on
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01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:59.840
like callouts because in the like in the short term,
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01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:02.760
that might be what's hitting on the algorithm, and they
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might blow up because of that and they might get
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01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.960
a bunch of hate follows or drama follows and stuff
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01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.479
like that. But if they don't build their platform on
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01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:16.720
the actual coaching, on the actual educational side of it,
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01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:21.039
where they're posting more positive stuff, even if it gets
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01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.199
less engagement, right, Like, that's more sustainable in the long
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01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.119
run versus building a platform on rage.
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01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:29.840
Yeah, it's hard to you run out of things that
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01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:30.399
get mad.
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01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:35.119
About, and especially like that clout chasy kind of platform
1309
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:37.159
can only work for so long, and we've seen it
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01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:38.840
time and time again where guys will blow up and
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01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.880
then they'll disappear because they run out of things to
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01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.439
rage bait on, or the gimmick gets old and people
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01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.880
grow past it and they decide they move on. Versus
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01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:52.159
I've seen guys blow not even blow up, but grow
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01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.960
slowly from a smaller following to a bigger following where
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01:12:54.960 --> 01:13:00.960
they consistently post educational stuff, positive stuff, actual full information,
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01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:05.399
or actual creative talent. Like if it's a like a
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01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.920
media guy and he's showing like he's posting like his
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01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:12.479
his cinematics, and slowly you watch them improve, you watch
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01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:15.520
them get better. That that's more sustainable in the long run.
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01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.640
That's more positive for the algorithm, I believe, than just
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loading it up with a bunch of rage based slop,
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which I think is kind of the issue with social
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01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:27.960
media right now. Like every other post I see in
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fitness in the fitness space is some science based versus
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01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:33.640
bro science like post.
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01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:36.760
Yeah yeah, I know, I saw one yesterday where somebody
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was like, you know, talking about just just get stronger
1329
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.840
or whatever, and it's like, yeah, it's true, but what
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01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:48.640
you're railing against is people who are majoring in the minors.
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01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.079
You're not. It's not science that you're against. Really, it's
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01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:55.159
people who get caught up in the minutia, like but yeah,
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01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:57.600
if that content's not for you, then don't.
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Consent, don't consume it.
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01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:02.680
Pretty easy, you know, they're not We're not force fed.
1336
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.000
We're a little bit force fed on the algorithm. But
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01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.079
but you know, you don't actually have to engage with
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01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:09.439
it if you don't want to. If you know that
1339
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.920
this person doesn't doesn't have content that you're interested in,
1340
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:13.079
the scroll past it.
1341
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.319
Instagram has this feature where you can you can hit
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not interested. Yeah, and if you do that long enough,
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it'll it'll get rid of the algorithm.
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01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.880
Okay, well I think that's pretty good for today. Jerry.
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01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:26.920
Where can people find you if you want them to?
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01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:32.039
Jerry Kilos on Instagram all one word. You can find
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01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:35.520
me here at Third Street. Come on, buy for a
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training session, Come on buy.
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01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:39.880
That's it.
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01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:41.359
I know you too.
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Yeah, no, nothing, no nothing.
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I am Sebastian Underscore brand below on IG.
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I am f dj McDonnell. Though social media that shows
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fifty percent facts represents a word and fifty is just numbers,
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fifty percent facts. As a Speakerbine Podcast association with our
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media on the obscure celebrity net work and we'll talk
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to you next week, no stop,