Speaker 1: It's Tass and Huey back here at Surviving the Heat at Aftershock Festival.
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Speaker 2: Very excited to chat with Mike from Devil Wears Prada. How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm good. Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: Good to see you. You're just getting your day started. We're only your second interview, so hopefully you're not overheated yet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we already played. That was my.
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Speaker 2: Were you direct sunlight?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I don't do so well with it, but we made it.
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Speaker 1: Who does?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure which stage you were on.
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Speaker 1: There's five stages here, and some of them are direct hits.
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Speaker 4: We were 2-0-5, so we made it.
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Speaker 3: We've had worse.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: We're good.
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Speaker 2: You've played all over. You've played in extremes, I'm sure, of all kind.
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Speaker 1: What's the worst experience you've had to deal with on stage like that?
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Speaker 3: Oh, shoot.
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Speaker 4: Last year, we played a show at the F1 track in Austin, Texas, and that was a direct sun situation, and that was.
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Speaker 3: That was a tough one to get through. That one was like.
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Speaker 2: Well, it had humidity to contend with, too.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was dead middle of summer in Texas. So that one is a recent tough one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet so. Oh, my God. Yeah. As we melt.
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Speaker 5: But listen, Chaz, I have a chance to remind you. I have a lot of respect for Devil Wears Prada. Years ago, you guys had a show at the Warfield. I believe touring with Killswitch Engage a long time ago. At our old building, remember, we were in the same floor or same building as the Make-A-Wish Foundation. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. They contacted us, came upstairs. They said there was a kid that they were working with. Their wish was something with Devil Wears Prada. So my coworker and I, we went down there with the camera. We went backstage. You guys recorded a video message. for this Make-A-Wish kid, it was just such an awesome experience. So from that point on, I've always had respect that you guys would make the effort for your fans, depending on the situation and stuff. So I don't say thank you in hindsight now. So that was just cool. But do you get to do a lot of cool stuff with your fans like that?
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you saying that.
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Speaker 4: It's the very least we can do. We haven't had anything like that. We were still living the dream at one point. It's been a few years. I guess it's probably been before the pandemic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, any way we can help and we can give back or try to brighten someone's day is the least we can do.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Well, you guys have been, I mean, you've been going at it for so long and doing so well.
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure before you were in a band, it was easy to romanticize this life, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I know it's not all glitz and glamour as we stand here in 100 Degree Heat. What is something that really surprised you about this life that's definitely not on the romantic side of band living, if you will?
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Speaker 4: Waiting. Waiting.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of waiting.
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Speaker 4: There is so much waiting in this job. And for someone that lacks patience, it can be very trying.
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Speaker 2: In the studio especially. It's always amazing to me how.
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Speaker 3: Much waiting there can be.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And, you know, when you have six guys in the band, there can definitely be too many cooks in the kitchen. Of course.
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Speaker 3: So you don't have to phrase every opinion and whatnot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But, yeah, we have to be up at 4 a.m. tomorrow morning for a 7 a.m. flight.
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Speaker 3: And that's just hard for us.
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Speaker 4: Our tour manager to do his job and get everything situated with the airline. And you just wait there for three hours from 4 to 7 a.m. And again, for someone that lacks patience, it's not my favorite component to the job, but I do love this job and.
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Speaker 3: I don't mean to be a little baby and complain.
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Speaker 2: I asked you the tough question.
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Speaker 3: You had to answer it.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't you complaining. I was forcing the issue. Speaking of albums, Love Flowers.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: We were just talking about it.
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Speaker 1: It's different in the best way.
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Speaker 2: What was the thought process going into that album? Was there a goal? Was there a mission statement?
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Speaker 1: Do you sit down and say, this is what we're going to do, or does it just organically flow?
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Speaker 4: There's definitely intent. I think John, our keyboard player, who produced the album and did a lot of the songwriting, really the mastermind of the album, would have a better answer than me. But I think we really honed in on.
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Speaker 4: The catchy components that we started working more on around color decay. Yeah. Um, obviously Jeremy's voice is utilized more than any time in, you know, Prada history. So, um, there's definitely, uh, uh, what do I want to say? Um, intention there, I guess.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 2: So it was a forethought.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 5: Interesting. Now we were talking about earlier, just, you know, the band coming up through the years and just, you know, the rock and roll lifestyle, um, Now in hindsight, you guys are part of a really special time period for the genre that you guys represent, metalcore, post-hardcore, all that stuff. Did you know at the time that you guys, all these bands collectively, were doing something really special that was sending a new trend? I love different time periods where different music genres take off. Did you know at the time that you were part of something really special with a group of bands that, become so influential and it's like existing to this day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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Speaker 4: I had no expectations for, uh, for the band or even the thought of the idea of using the word career is comical. Um, we were just having fun and trying to express ourselves. And, um, yeah, I don't know. I think that when you come to these big rock festivals, you know, I was, I was born in 88, growing up in the late nineties, early two thousands. It was like, there's no way bands that just play a bunch of breakdowns are going to be on these huge rock festivals. And, um, it's been a bit of a changing of the old guard in terms of, I think like new rock, new metal to metal core.
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Speaker 3: Um, and I, I certainly.
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Speaker 4: Didn't anticipate that or really predicted at all, but, um, yeah, we, we've just worked really hard and you see bands like bring me in a day to remember and architects spirit box, like these bands that have helped pave the way for, a world that's different than, you know, the radio rock of, you know, the last generation.
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Speaker 5: I guess.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much talk of obviously being at this festival, metal and rock. What's the most surprising thing that you listen to outside of sort of that wheelhouse that people would be like, oh, really?
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Speaker 2: Or do you?
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Speaker 4: No, I listen to mostly like ambient music and jazz at home.
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Speaker 2: I'm a big jazz fan, me too, especially when I'm cooking.
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Speaker 1: Same.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Breakfast every morning, breakfast and coffee with jazz. Um, it really does.
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Speaker 3: It's lovely.
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Speaker 1: Um, I go way back to like, I specifically nerd out in like 1930s, 1940s jazz.
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Speaker 2: That is a whole special vibe.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I, I've listened to like Charlie Christian, like that goes pretty far back, but.
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Speaker 3: Around like the 60s, 70s, I'm nothing too crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Um, But yeah, there's some great artists even now.
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Speaker 4: There's a label called International Anthem that puts out a lot of really amazing music. But yeah, I love rock too. I'm a diehard metalhead too. But yeah, I appreciate everyone listening to what they choose to listen to. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: What was your very first metal band that you fell in love with? Like the first, like the moment you.
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Speaker 3: Were like, whoa, what's that? Like proper metal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's hard not to say Slayer.
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Speaker 4: I know. But I remember the first time I heard Painkiller.
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Speaker 5: Oh, hell yeah.
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Speaker 3: You can still listen to Painkiller, and it's the best solos. It's the biggest ass-kicking.
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Speaker 2: Good choice. Got to see them at Aftershock a couple years ago. Yes, with Iron Maiden, same day.
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Speaker 5: That was an incredible night.
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Speaker 3: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: Stage to stage, it went Judas Priest and then Iron Maiden.
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Speaker 3: That's nuts.
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Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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Speaker 5: Well, I do want to ask, here we are at Aftershock. You guys just played earlier. Dade remembers playing later. We know your history with A to Remember. Any chances for a cameo tonight?
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Speaker 4: I don't think I can do it tonight. I saw the guys, thankfully. I love doing the part whenever it works out, but the 4 a.m. lobby call and my inability to work in the morning, I'm already mean and cranky enough. So if I stick around here drinking until 9 or 10 tonight, it's going to be a tough morning. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: There will always be next time.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: I've done it a million times.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure their set's going to be awesome.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 5: It was incredible. Last time, a couple years ago, they always deliver as well.
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Speaker 3: Always on their game.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine you being mean for a second, by the way.
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Speaker 2: Even when you're tired and hungover and cranky.
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Speaker 3: I hate the morning. I hate the morning.
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Speaker 2: I do the morning show, so trust me.
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Speaker 1: Those are my hours every day.
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Speaker 2: So I get it.
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Speaker 3: You're better at it than me because I want to. Found a different gig.
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Speaker 2: I have to get up and be cheery even. So that's really, yeah, that's really fun. But that's all right. We make it happen.
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Speaker 5: I know.
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Speaker 4: We try.
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Speaker 3: We try. All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're standing here in 100 Degree.
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Speaker 1: We don't want to keep you forever, but we do have a very important question we always end our interviews with that we love so much. It's speaking of the good old days, if you will, early aughts, the movie Almost Famous.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember? Do you remember that film?
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Speaker 3: I never actually saw it front to back, but I'm, of course, familiar.
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Speaker 2: You have homework.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: So in the last frame of that movie, the question is asked, what do you love about music?
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Speaker 5: The pause is okay.
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Speaker 2: The pause is part of the answer.
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Speaker 5: Take your time. It's all good.
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Speaker 1: I think, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean, you can think of like fine art, but I think that music has a certain, certain like component of universal, like it's so universal.
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Speaker 1: Sure.
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Speaker 2: Universal language.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that kind of comes to mind. I think that, Culturally, over generations, or really since the dawn of man, music has played such an important.
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Speaker 3: Component to cultures, to communities.
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Speaker 4: And for me personally, it's been such an amazing means to put my feelings and my voice to something, to writing. Yeah, I think those are some of my first thoughts and thoughts.
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Speaker 3: Thinking about the importance of music.
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Speaker 2: Yeah it's very cool that you get to be that.
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Speaker 3: For other people right I'm very grateful.
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Speaker 2: Even the 4 a.m. calls, it's still really worth it. It's still really good.
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Speaker 3: I'll make it. I won't be cheery.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's asking for cheery. We'll take you at 4 a.m. any way we can get you. Thank you so much for spending time with us.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's been really awesome.