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Speaker 1: It's Chastain Huey here at Aftershock Festival.
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Speaker 2: Backstage day, what are we on? Four.
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Speaker 3: Day four.
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Speaker 2: Final day with the co-defendants. How are you guys?
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Speaker 3: Very well. I feel like I got peanut butter in my fucking mouth.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: You shared your cookie with me and we both have peanut butter.
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Speaker 5: My bad.
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Speaker 2: We smell good.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do.
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Speaker 3: We smell like peanut butter.
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Speaker 2: It's nice to meet you guys.
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Speaker 3: Nice to meet you, too.
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Speaker 2: He met, did you meet both?
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Speaker 5: No, I met Sam last night.
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Speaker 2: You met Sam last night.
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Speaker 5: Sam, we broed down so hard last night. Yeah, we did.
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Speaker 2: When I saw him again, he was like, dude, I met Sam from God of Enderseed.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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Speaker 3: We were in that photo booth for a minute.
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Speaker 5: I know, yeah.
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Speaker 3: We'll always have those pictures.
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Speaker 5: I know.
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Speaker 6: You and me we just got copies in our wallet it's my back phone on my backdrop on my phone now absolutely uh no it was so great because you know we're just geeking out just talking about you know fat records and you guys uh you know bomb the hill the anniversary shows um but you know we'll start with uh the big question so we have a mutual friend mr chalker when i said I forgot we had the subject of Chakra.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, how did Chakra come up?
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Speaker 5: We were talking about skating.
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Speaker 2: If you're a long-time bonehead, you know who Chakra is.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Chakra was calling to our station for years. Yeah. And I said, Chakra. And you're like, Isaac Chakra. And I'm like.
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Speaker 7: Yes oh my god yes.
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Speaker 2: He went you went full name you really do no.
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Speaker 4: No you know he was our he was our team manager for uh what's what this is crazy that we're bringing this up we live in las vegas now okay and so the first skate tour that i went on like i had to get like a note from my grandma to be able to leave school for the week.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god and like i did like this.
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Speaker 4: Packet of shit for uh continuation high school um but anyway chocker was the guy that was you know the older the The.
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Speaker 3: Senior on it.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 4: And we went, uh, we were on the Hoover dam. It was called the Helen back tour. And we went from Santa Rosa to Las Vegas and back. We stopped, we went to Phoenix, Arizona, pass that. And I felt like, you know, the Hoover dam, you can stand on it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I was like, probably like 15, 16 or something. And I was like filming on that ledge and a cop came up and we were all drunk. Isaac was with us and I stepped off the ledge. and my braces went up into my gums on my front teeth, because.
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Speaker 3: I hit my face on the ground, you know?
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Speaker 5: Oh my God.
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Speaker 7: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: And I had all these braces stuck up there.
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Speaker 4: Isaac was like, sitting there and he's like you young but you know it was either isaac or jeff or someone was like none of you guys are getting laid on the sword and i ended up like showing up and like i had to cut the wires out while we're on tour oh my god and uh yeah and i was the only one that got laid on tour ask isaac okay her name was suzanne bridges what up girl.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of photo booths, that's how I know that.
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Speaker 4: It's because we went to a photo booth at like something, and then I had to stick it on the bottom of my skateboard for the whole tour.
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Speaker 3: So I look at her and go, I'm going to make this one, Susan.
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Speaker 6: Well, so Chalker, he texts me, crap, I just got this. And I said, we burrowed down so hard last night. He said, Rad, ask him about his naked run at the Santa Rosa skate park.
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Speaker 2: Oh, legendary story.
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Speaker 5: Okay. All right.
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Speaker 4: Go on.
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Speaker 2: You've got to eat the cookie.
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Speaker 5: It's all right.
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Speaker 3: Eat the cookie.
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Speaker 5: Think about it. Yeah. Remember it. It's okay.
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Speaker 2: Take a swig. Go back in time. How long ago are we talking here?
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Speaker 3: We're talking. Last week?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: 1998, 1999.
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Speaker 8: All right.
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Speaker 3: I used to work for Santa Rosa Ski and Sport. What's up, guys?
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Speaker 4: And they had a little skate shop, and they wanted a skate team. So the year before, I entered under them, and I got first place. So I stopped working for them by the next year Castle came.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 4: And they said, hey, will you skate in it for us? And I said, yeah, for sure. No intention of doing such things. I was like, well, you got to give us a keg. So they gave us a keg. And I went and did my whole run when they called me out just butt naked.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: But did my run flawless. Like, didn't fuck.
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Speaker 4: It up because we lived there, so we skated there every day. I think little Jesse, who I was just talking about, Isaac's protege.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That's who got them all rockered out, you know? Because those kids used to make fun of me when I moved there from San Jose. They're like, Guns N' Roses. They're like, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 7: I'm like, whatever.
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Speaker 3: The next thing you know, fucking Jesse.
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Speaker 4: And Isaac, you know, because Isaac always been a little heshy. But, like, all of a sudden, he's, like, I just seen little Jesse out there, and he had a fucking Steel Panther tat.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, shut the fuck up.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: What up, Steel Panther?
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Speaker 5: That is very Chalker. I love Steel Panther. That's very Chalker.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but so it's like, in our eyes, it was a first place run, you know? Oh, that's awesome. But, yeah, butt naked. And then every time after that, when they had the Tony thing.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I also lost a hot dog eating contest.
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Speaker 5: I've done a hot dog eating contest with Joey Chestnut. I lost badly.
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Speaker 2: That's legendary, though.
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Speaker 5: Even that you were in that.
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Speaker 6: It was at a Hooter Palooza, a Hooter Girl bikini contest. And I was distracted. That's why I couldn't eat the hot dogs fast enough.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, right.
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Speaker 3: It's fair enough.
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Speaker 4: In Las Vegas, Hooters thinks they're sly because they got the OYO hotels.
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Speaker 3: Yes. So it's O-Y-O. And I was stoned the other day looking at it.
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Speaker 8: I'm like.
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Speaker 3: That is a fucking, like, sly, like, kid song.
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Speaker 5: Fucking hooters.
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Speaker 3: They tried to, like, rebrand so they weren't so sexist, and they called it OYO.
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Speaker 5: Now I have to look at it.
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Speaker 2: Being a girl, I never noticed that before.
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Speaker 5: But, no, so we were geeking out last night. Obviously, you guys, Fat Records, the anniversary.
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Speaker 6: Like, because we were talking. I feel like Fat Records this year, it's been, like, the 30th anniversary, but it's been going on all year. Because I thought originally it was in May when I saw Lagwagon at the Fillmore. But now it's extended to Bottom of the Hill.
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Speaker 5: But how was that? You got to play Bottom of the Hill a couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 7: I didn't play that year.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't play that year.
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Speaker 4: First of all, I can't be certain, but I'm very certain that Fat Records has had a 35th anniversary for like seven years. Fat Mike has definitely turned 50 and 55.
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Speaker 2: At least seven times.
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Speaker 3: At least seven times.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
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Speaker 4: I caught him on his Wikipedia page when we were living together fucking with it, so... He's like, well, sometimes when I want to get money, I'll just change my birthday and people send me money.
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, that's so scummy. He's like, that's what I am.
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Speaker 4: I'm just a scummy dude.
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Speaker 2: How is it living with him? How's your regular day?
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Speaker 3: Terrifying.
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Speaker 2: Being roommates with him.
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Speaker 7: A lot of interesting smells in the hallway.
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Speaker 5: I would say, do you dress up with him at all?
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Speaker 4: No, but you know what really surprised me a bunch is that my friends that would come visit, oh like because fat michael test your ass and be you know when i went to his house the first time he tried to get me to get like a chest that like stopped and i was like bro i'll kill you you know like i'm not getting in your fucking weird chest you answered the door in high heels playboy no way but like i've had friends like the kid from fucking canada and like i know they'll they'll go in there they'll come out wearing a fucking like a like a latex dress and shit, y'all.
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Speaker 3: Mike told me, Mike told me just to explore myself.
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Speaker 5: Oh, wow. Oh, boy.
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Speaker 3: On that side of the house.
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Speaker 5: You go you. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: We don't judge. You do you.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not judging, but it surprised me like how many of like the random people that I know that would come visit, you know, like the skater guys and tattoo artists and shit that would just like get talked into that kind of shit.
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Speaker 3: Then you live in L.A.
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Speaker 4: And you're just like seeing that Hollywood shit and you're like, oh, damn, these fools do that.
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Speaker 5: Yep. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I used to live in Hollywood. I know all about that.
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Speaker 3: That shit is crazy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you see it all.
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Speaker 8: We were at Well, when we lived with Fat Mike in Las Vegas, when we first moved there, we were at one of his birthday parties. And that was one of the wildest birthday parties ever. There were people getting whipped.
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Speaker 7: Oh, sorry, I can't talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Can you say, yeah, I was going to say, how much can you eat?
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Speaker 7: I don't know, I'll just talk about the cake. The cake was just a giant ass with a... A butt plug.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God. The cake?
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Speaker 8: It was like a fondant cake with a butt plug and an asshole.
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Speaker 3: Did you eat it in the cake?
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Speaker 7: Probably.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could have done it.
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we can't talk about that.
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Speaker 7: I can. We can talk about anything we want.
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Speaker 3: I can't because I was a victim. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 7: There's other things on my mind about.
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Speaker 5: That night, too.
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Speaker 7: I know.
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Speaker 3: Look at my mom over here. She's pissed. She's about to hit somebody. Kim King.
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Speaker 7: Shout out to that wild porn star named Drake.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 3: The hammer?
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Speaker 5: Okay, I overheard you last night.
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Speaker 3: What do you mean they won't let you out?
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Speaker 5: Who won't?
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Speaker 7: Sam's mom.
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Speaker 3: Do you need to go save your mom? No, watch this. She don't care.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's.
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Speaker 2: She ain't messing around. She's telling everybody what's going on.
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Speaker 3: She's good. She used to listen to K-Don when I was a kid.
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Speaker 8: Nice.
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Speaker 2: She did?
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 6: Okay, so I heard you last night. So is Fat Mike still a member, ever was a member, or he kind of put you on a guy's blast originally, right? You were telling that story last night.
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Speaker 7: Oh, you're talking about Co-Defendants?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry. He's a member? Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Fat Mike's definitely a member of Co-Defendants. In the studio, he is super involved. He puts these records together with us.
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Speaker 5: He produces.
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Speaker 7: He writes with us. He's very involved. He just retired from touring. He'll show up at a show. He'll sing a song. He'll hang out.
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Speaker 8: You won't see a full set.
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Speaker 7: From Fat Mike unless it's a comedy routine or something.
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Speaker 3: You get all the shows. Yeah, you get that full set.
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, Fat Mike's definitely a co-defender.
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Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
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Speaker 8: We started without him, but we showed him about four demos, and we were hanging out with him a lot at that time, and he loved the demos, and he wanted to sign us, but then he got so involved with the process of it, we were like.
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Speaker 5: Dude, you're in the band.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: And if I made it to that level and I was tired of touring, I'd probably do the same thing. When you can make that choice, you have the luxury of making that.
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Speaker 2: Choice, why not?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that, I mean, there's a slippery slope, though, because the next thing you know, that money runs out, and you've got to be fucking opening up for Eddie Money at the fucking, at the fairgrounds, you know.
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Speaker 7: What I mean?
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Speaker 3: Or, like, you got to get an eight ball and go to the Canocti Harbor Resort. Oh, my God, Canocti.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, straight up. You know what's up?
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Speaker 3: I'm a San Jose head from way back then.
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Speaker 4: My continuation high school winter ball was at Bay 101. As soon as I saw me was like you are gonna be how we're gonna have fun tomorrow Lamont Sinelli still.
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Speaker 5: On the radio oh my god that's who we worked with.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's a funny story oh.
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Speaker 4: My god now you guys are talking right now you guys are saying QE and Shasta and I'm like what the fuck you guys are the fucking bulls from the fucking radio I was born and raised in San Jose California I knew it was 93 KSJL so you grew up on KSJL yeah you're OG When you guys promoted the KISS concert at the Oakland Coliseum, when they came back, when the dude died, I was fucking 15 feet away from him when he died.
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Speaker 5: Wait, which was?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were at the Oakland Coliseum, and Gene Simmons would fly to the rafters, you know, do his shit. And then in the concourse, the circular thing, it's on tile, but there were those fucking concrete things that went up kind of, you know, like from the ground up. Some kid ran up there and got up there and was trying to get up to, like, get in there. And he fucking slipped off of there, fucked up, or I don't know. But he hit his head on the tile.
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Speaker 5: Oh, shit.
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Speaker 2: And you were right next to him?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were, like, 15 feet away. I just heard it.
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Speaker 4: Oh, oh. And I looked back, and he was passed out. So it was, like, I didn't know he fell from up there.
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Speaker 5: Interesting.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't, like, all, like, crazy. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you guys, like, your radio station probably got him there. Wow.
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Speaker 3: That's how I found out about the show.
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Speaker 5: Jesus.
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Speaker 3: We'll blame it on Lamont.
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Speaker 2: Lord help us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. Blame it on Hooters.
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Speaker 2: Blame it on Hooters.
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Speaker 5: Or Chalker.
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Speaker 3: This is definitely going to blame it on Isaac Chalker.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know his older brother too, right? Did you know him when.
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Speaker 3: He was an AM? No, no, no. I knew he was my OG, so he was like older than me.
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Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha.
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Speaker 7: He was older than you?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was.
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Speaker 2: He's going to love this interview.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he old as dirt, boy.
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Speaker 5: I know. He takes salt baths now after he goes skating.
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Speaker 4: Last time I went skating with him, he had one of those rose petal water pumpers.
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: And he brings the leaf blower out and he cleans up the area. I've seen him on Instagram posting all that stuff.
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Speaker 5: He listens to a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of Celine Dion lately. Heard he's been drinking a lot of White Claw. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 5: In his garage. His man cave garage.
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Speaker 3: Fuck that.
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Speaker 4: That's not a man cave. That's like a mini museum of skateboarding.
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Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 5: That is true.
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Speaker 4: They should let school children go there and let him go. Because it's like a skate shop.
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Speaker 7: He can give tours.
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Speaker 5: This is the Chalker episode.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 4: I love it. My grandparents live up in Albion, so you've got to go past Santa Rosa.
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Speaker 3: He still lives there. So anytime I can stop by Brotherhood. skate shop what up.
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Speaker 4: Dudes um and like or at isaac's it's dope so i brought him a get dead skateboard my other band last time i went through that's cool i love going to his garage it's great okay.
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Speaker 5: We need to go up there when he's.
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Speaker 2: Like a destination for everybody.
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Speaker 4: At this point everybody's allowed to go to isaac's house uh this is thursday night his address is 1432 ridge.
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Speaker 2: Lake he just moved thank god that's not the.
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Speaker 4: New yeah he moved we don't have to edit that you lucky son of a bitch.
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Speaker 5: Just beep it out.
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Speaker 2: That's great.
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Speaker 1: So when you're out, you're on tour and everything, do you skate wherever you go?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Like everywhere? I skate.
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Speaker 3: I skate.
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 3: They just watch me skate. Did you skate?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 4: Somebody asked Jesse the other day, they were like, is Sam good at skateboarding? And he's like, he goes fast.
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Speaker 7: I know this fool brings his skateboard everywhere, even if he.
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Speaker 5: Doesn't use it.
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Speaker 2: I figured as much, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 7: It gets on a lot of planes, at least.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, you never know.
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Speaker 4: It's like when I don't have it, it's when it's like, hey, the liquor store is like five blocks that way, but we only have five, you know.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I feel better with it around.
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Speaker 2: It's a life hack.
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Speaker 5: What does it mean for you guys to be on Fat Record?
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Speaker 6: Such a legendary label that's, I mean, I have so many, like, you know, compilations, CDs, from the, obviously, NoFX, all the bands that have been on there. But what does it mean to be affiliated with Phat Records, a Bay Area label?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, it's a Bay Area label, like I said.
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Speaker 4: Me and Chesky both have, like, deep roots in the Bay Area, and, you know, up until I moved to Las Vegas, I just, I always lived there, so.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Growing up as a skateboarder, too, in the Bay Area, a.
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Speaker 4: Lot of those bands, like NoFX, Lagwagon face-to-face. They were all on the 411 videos. They were all on those skate videos. You're always psyched when there was a Bay Area band on anything.
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: We just saw James Hetfield went to.
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Speaker 5: The Punk Rock Museum. It's all that.
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Speaker 3: And one of my good friends, Brent Casquillo, Casquillo. Don't get mad at it.
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Speaker 4: We painted the Punk Rock Museum thing. He, the painting out there with our friend Puzzle.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And he, Brant had his first son and he named him Cliff.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 3: After Metallica.
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Speaker 5: Cliff Burton.
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Speaker 4: And he's also got this really bad like stomach rocker. It's like thou Torah kingdom of whatever the fuck it is.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know.
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Speaker 4: Because you can't read it because it's this skinny because it's so big. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But, you know, he's been doing his push-ups. He's looking good.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're looking good.
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Speaker 4: But, yeah, but it was super cool the other night. I got to send him the picture of James Hetfield. And I was like, in front of the shit that he painted. And I'm like, yo, show this to Cliff, you know?
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Speaker 5: Oh, that's awesome.
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Speaker 1: Since you're in Vegas, are you guys going to go to the Sphere and see Metallica?
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Speaker 7: We would like to, yeah.
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Speaker 8: You know, our homie, our guitarist, Cesar, he's friends with the Trujillo family.
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Speaker 7: And so, yeah, I think they.
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Speaker 8: Eden tried to invite us to the Sphere to one of the shows, but we're playing the same night, so we can't even go.
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Speaker 5: Oh, wow. It's a bummer.
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Speaker 1: You had to turn down a personal invite?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Cesar, come on in. Tell them what happened with the Sphere, because we almost went. We were talking about.
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Speaker 2: Metallica at the Sphere. I was asking if you guys were going to go. You had to turn it down?
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Speaker 5: What's up?
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Speaker 2: You had to turn down the Sphere at the Sphere.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, because I think Code Offense is a little bit better.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 7: Not just because I play.
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Speaker 5: No, no, I'm just messing. Can I cuss?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Okay, cool.
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Speaker 5: Oh, perfect.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, yeah, just I'm actually in Robert Chihiro's wife's band.
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Speaker 5: We're called 66 Steps. Shout out. Yeah, it was Chloe.
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Speaker 9: So I play drums and keys in that band. Yeah, and then, like, they're awesome. Yeah, they're awesome people and the whole family, like they're just so amazing. Ty's a good homie.
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Speaker 7: Lula too.
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Speaker 9: I helped out Lula with the whole art world and Chloe as well. And we collaborated and did this tattoo together. So yeah, so it's so rad because the whole family is so amazing. And the story with Robert, like it's just insane because I, we met doing an art show, you know, and he came up to me and wanted to talk to me. And then the thing he asked was like, hey, can I have your number? And I'm like, you want my number, dude?
00:17:02
Speaker 7: That's wild, but all right.
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Speaker 3: And then, yeah.
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Speaker 9: And then, and then, and then he, yeah. And then he got my number. And then after that, he, you know, I was like, dude, I didn't give him my number. Like I didn't get his number. And then, uh, two days later he texted me like, Hey bro, check this out. And it's a ties band called auto.
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Speaker 5: Uh, yeah.
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Speaker 9: And then, so he's like, dude, check it out. We shot this beautiful, beautiful music video. And then we just bonded even more. And it's just amazing.
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Speaker 5: Cause, uh, they're great people.
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Speaker 9: And, The family is so amazing and really talented and just humble and just awesome. And to be part of all that's awesome, you know. And then you get Sam and Chesky that are also great people that help out other, you know, musicians and artists. And just knowing that we're all just in the same family, just in different worlds, but we all collide and, you know, be together and stuff. And we're all playing together, kind of, in Vegas on Thursday.
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Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 3: Awesome.
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Speaker 1: The rock and roll world is so small. I mean, it's remarkable. Like, you know, you can make all these connections to everybody.
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Speaker 8: And last weekend alone, Metallica, you know, James Hetfield showed up at the Punk Rock Museum, which we helped.
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Speaker 7: You know, start with that mic.
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Speaker 8: And we were a part of the whole beginning of it. And then that same day... Dave Grohl shouted out Fat Mike in the Punk Rock Museum.
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Speaker 5: I saw that Instagram. Yes, I did.
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Speaker 8: And then Fat Mike texted us that night. He's like, you know what? I missed it when he shouted me out. I was hanging with Johnny Depp backstage.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 7: When I was shooting pool with Johnny Depp.
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Speaker 2: Okay, name dropping.
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Speaker 3: No, no, me and Johnny Depp are best friends now.
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Speaker 8: Boom. I don't know how real that is, but I know he kicked it with him.
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Speaker 5: Oh, that's cool, because I saw the video. Yeah, because Chris was about to do a No Use for a Name song. Yes.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that is so sick.
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Speaker 7: Which all comes back to Fat Wreck.
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Speaker 5: It does.
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Speaker 7: You know, it really is legendary.
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Speaker 2: It really is.
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Speaker 8: When you can be in the biggest rock band in the world at a stadium somewhere, and they're talking about No Use for a Name and Fat Wreck, like, yeah it's legendary.
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Speaker 1: Yeah it is legendary for sure i'm so glad you joined us because i have a favorite question that we always end our interviews with and i have a feeling you will have a lot to add to this so do you remember the movie almost famous from the early 2000s okay my favorite movie of all time in that movie the last frame of the movie the question is asked what do you love about music so who wants to start.
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Speaker 2: Oh they're putting you on all.
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Speaker 9: Right go for it well what i love about music is uh growing up in South central, I really didn't get to really express my feelings. Cause if you did, it was more like a weakness, you know, and going to the barrio, like you just got to learn, Hey man, just, just go home and make sure to walk to school, make sure to come back and you're okay. So I learned with music actually saved me.
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Speaker 5: So I felt like, cause I also.
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Speaker 9: Sing as well with my other band called unsound Sunday and which we wrote some songs together. Uh, but it's amazing that I get to express my feelings.
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Speaker 5: Through the music and with the whole art world.
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Speaker 7: And it's great. Uh, helps me.
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Speaker 5: It's more like therapeutic. And when I play, it's great, you know?
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Speaker 9: So, yeah, it just gets you help out.
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Speaker 5: Sorry. Sorry about that.
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Speaker 2: No, it's all good.
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Speaker 5: A run by hugging. Yeah.
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Speaker 9: But it brings people together, though, too, so that's another great thing about music.
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Just therapeutic, you know?
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Speaker 2: Universal language, too. I'm glad to hear that. It saved you. All right, who's next? What do you love about music?
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Speaker 3: When it hits you, you feel no pain.
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Speaker 5: Ooh, that's good.
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Speaker 2: See, he had time to think while you were talking.
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Speaker 7: He stole that from Bob Marley. But, yeah, for me, it fully is the same.
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Speaker 8: Not to, like, repeat your answer, but for me as, like, a 13-, 14-year-old kid who had a lot of mental health problems and didn't know how to express himself, that was my expression it wasn't through talking to anybody or going to actual therapists or anything that was my that was my way to get these feelings out and I started that's around the time I started recording on a four track and and it never got old to me to this day I get bored of things real easily music has never gotten old to me writing has never gotten old to me and It's the only thing in my life that's like that really.
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Speaker 7: So that's why we're here still.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely gone stale before.
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Speaker 5: Oh, for sure.
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Speaker 7: There's seasons.
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Speaker 4: You have these seasons where there's like this lull, but then all of a sudden you'll just like, you know, every couple years you'll get this one artist that just breaks through for you that you're just.
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Speaker 3: Like, you know, I'm listening to this for the next three months. That's all I listen to.
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Speaker 2: And it's like they reignite the fire.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, just like.
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Speaker 3: Pissing people off because you're getting your inspiration from it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely. And the fact that you can make a song.
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Speaker 8: completely for yourself sometimes and then it belongs to everybody and you'll.
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Speaker 7: Hear people singing it back to you sometimes. It's like, that is a crazy thing.
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Speaker 4: Music in general, just making, like music's like one of the only things that you can do besides like drawing or some shit like that where you can literally make nothing turn into something.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that moves. Yeah, like you said. They can move all types of people.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, magic.
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Speaker 7: Hermano, tú ya sabes.
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Speaker 3: Bro, you were like, you were with them, bro.
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Speaker 7: Shout out Tigre Ternorte.
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Speaker 1: You guys are absolutely awesome. I'm so glad we were able to chat with you guys.
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Speaker 2: So nice to meet you. I'm glad you walked by. That was perfect timing.
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Speaker 5: I was going to go fucking see the show.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go see the show.
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Speaker 5: Go do it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for being here.
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Speaker 5: Thank you. That's right.
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Speaker 3: All right. We love you guys.
Speaker 1: It's Chastain Huey here at Aftershock Festival.
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Speaker 2: Backstage day, what are we on? Four.
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Speaker 3: Day four.
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Speaker 2: Final day with the co-defendants. How are you guys?
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Speaker 3: Very well. I feel like I got peanut butter in my fucking mouth.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: You shared your cookie with me and we both have peanut butter.
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Speaker 5: My bad.
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Speaker 2: We smell good.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we do.
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Speaker 3: We smell like peanut butter.
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Speaker 2: It's nice to meet you guys.
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Speaker 3: Nice to meet you, too.
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Speaker 2: He met, did you meet both?
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Speaker 5: No, I met Sam last night.
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Speaker 2: You met Sam last night.
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Speaker 5: Sam, we broed down so hard last night. Yeah, we did.
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Speaker 2: When I saw him again, he was like, dude, I met Sam from God of Enderseed.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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Speaker 3: We were in that photo booth for a minute.
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Speaker 5: I know, yeah.
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Speaker 3: We'll always have those pictures.
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Speaker 5: I know.
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Speaker 6: You and me we just got copies in our wallet it's my back phone on my backdrop on my phone now absolutely uh no it was so great because you know we're just geeking out just talking about you know fat records and you guys uh you know bomb the hill the anniversary shows um but you know we'll start with uh the big question so we have a mutual friend mr chalker when i said I forgot we had the subject of Chakra.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, how did Chakra come up?
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Speaker 5: We were talking about skating.
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Speaker 2: If you're a long-time bonehead, you know who Chakra is.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Chakra was calling to our station for years. Yeah. And I said, Chakra. And you're like, Isaac Chakra. And I'm like.
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Speaker 7: Yes oh my god yes.
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Speaker 2: He went you went full name you really do no.
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Speaker 4: No you know he was our he was our team manager for uh what's what this is crazy that we're bringing this up we live in las vegas now okay and so the first skate tour that i went on like i had to get like a note from my grandma to be able to leave school for the week.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god and like i did like this.
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Speaker 4: Packet of shit for uh continuation high school um but anyway chocker was the guy that was you know the older the The.
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Speaker 3: Senior on it.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 4: And we went, uh, we were on the Hoover dam. It was called the Helen back tour. And we went from Santa Rosa to Las Vegas and back. We stopped, we went to Phoenix, Arizona, pass that. And I felt like, you know, the Hoover dam, you can stand on it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So I was like, probably like 15, 16 or something. And I was like filming on that ledge and a cop came up and we were all drunk. Isaac was with us and I stepped off the ledge. and my braces went up into my gums on my front teeth, because.
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Speaker 3: I hit my face on the ground, you know?
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Speaker 5: Oh my God.
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Speaker 7: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: And I had all these braces stuck up there.
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Speaker 4: Isaac was like, sitting there and he's like you young but you know it was either isaac or jeff or someone was like none of you guys are getting laid on the sword and i ended up like showing up and like i had to cut the wires out while we're on tour oh my god and uh yeah and i was the only one that got laid on tour ask isaac okay her name was suzanne bridges what up girl.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of photo booths, that's how I know that.
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Speaker 4: It's because we went to a photo booth at like something, and then I had to stick it on the bottom of my skateboard for the whole tour.
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Speaker 3: So I look at her and go, I'm going to make this one, Susan.
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Speaker 6: Well, so Chalker, he texts me, crap, I just got this. And I said, we burrowed down so hard last night. He said, Rad, ask him about his naked run at the Santa Rosa skate park.
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Speaker 2: Oh, legendary story.
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Speaker 5: Okay. All right.
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Speaker 4: Go on.
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Speaker 2: You've got to eat the cookie.
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Speaker 5: It's all right.
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Speaker 3: Eat the cookie.
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Speaker 5: Think about it. Yeah. Remember it. It's okay.
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Speaker 2: Take a swig. Go back in time. How long ago are we talking here?
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Speaker 3: We're talking. Last week?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: 1998, 1999.
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Speaker 8: All right.
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Speaker 3: I used to work for Santa Rosa Ski and Sport. What's up, guys?
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Speaker 4: And they had a little skate shop, and they wanted a skate team. So the year before, I entered under them, and I got first place. So I stopped working for them by the next year Castle came.
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Speaker 5: Okay.
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Speaker 4: And they said, hey, will you skate in it for us? And I said, yeah, for sure. No intention of doing such things. I was like, well, you got to give us a keg. So they gave us a keg. And I went and did my whole run when they called me out just butt naked.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: But did my run flawless. Like, didn't fuck.
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Speaker 4: It up because we lived there, so we skated there every day. I think little Jesse, who I was just talking about, Isaac's protege.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That's who got them all rockered out, you know? Because those kids used to make fun of me when I moved there from San Jose. They're like, Guns N' Roses. They're like, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 7: I'm like, whatever.
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Speaker 3: The next thing you know, fucking Jesse.
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Speaker 4: And Isaac, you know, because Isaac always been a little heshy. But, like, all of a sudden, he's, like, I just seen little Jesse out there, and he had a fucking Steel Panther tat.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, shut the fuck up.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 3: What up, Steel Panther?
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Speaker 5: That is very Chalker. I love Steel Panther. That's very Chalker.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but so it's like, in our eyes, it was a first place run, you know? Oh, that's awesome. But, yeah, butt naked. And then every time after that, when they had the Tony thing.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I also lost a hot dog eating contest.
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Speaker 5: I've done a hot dog eating contest with Joey Chestnut. I lost badly.
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Speaker 2: That's legendary, though.
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Speaker 5: Even that you were in that.
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Speaker 6: It was at a Hooter Palooza, a Hooter Girl bikini contest. And I was distracted. That's why I couldn't eat the hot dogs fast enough.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, right.
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Speaker 3: It's fair enough.
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Speaker 4: In Las Vegas, Hooters thinks they're sly because they got the OYO hotels.
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Speaker 3: Yes. So it's O-Y-O. And I was stoned the other day looking at it.
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Speaker 8: I'm like.
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Speaker 3: That is a fucking, like, sly, like, kid song.
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Speaker 5: Fucking hooters.
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Speaker 3: They tried to, like, rebrand so they weren't so sexist, and they called it OYO.
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Speaker 5: Now I have to look at it.
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Speaker 2: Being a girl, I never noticed that before.
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Speaker 5: But, no, so we were geeking out last night. Obviously, you guys, Fat Records, the anniversary.
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Speaker 6: Like, because we were talking. I feel like Fat Records this year, it's been, like, the 30th anniversary, but it's been going on all year. Because I thought originally it was in May when I saw Lagwagon at the Fillmore. But now it's extended to Bottom of the Hill.
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Speaker 5: But how was that? You got to play Bottom of the Hill a couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 7: I didn't play that year.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't play that year.
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Speaker 4: First of all, I can't be certain, but I'm very certain that Fat Records has had a 35th anniversary for like seven years. Fat Mike has definitely turned 50 and 55.
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Speaker 2: At least seven times.
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Speaker 3: At least seven times.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
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Speaker 4: I caught him on his Wikipedia page when we were living together fucking with it, so... He's like, well, sometimes when I want to get money, I'll just change my birthday and people send me money.
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, that's so scummy. He's like, that's what I am.
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Speaker 4: I'm just a scummy dude.
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Speaker 2: How is it living with him? How's your regular day?
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Speaker 3: Terrifying.
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Speaker 2: Being roommates with him.
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Speaker 7: A lot of interesting smells in the hallway.
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Speaker 5: I would say, do you dress up with him at all?
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Speaker 4: No, but you know what really surprised me a bunch is that my friends that would come visit, oh like because fat michael test your ass and be you know when i went to his house the first time he tried to get me to get like a chest that like stopped and i was like bro i'll kill you you know like i'm not getting in your fucking weird chest you answered the door in high heels playboy no way but like i've had friends like the kid from fucking canada and like i know they'll they'll go in there they'll come out wearing a fucking like a like a latex dress and shit, y'all.
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Speaker 3: Mike told me, Mike told me just to explore myself.
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Speaker 5: Oh, wow. Oh, boy.
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Speaker 3: On that side of the house.
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Speaker 5: You go you. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: We don't judge. You do you.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not judging, but it surprised me like how many of like the random people that I know that would come visit, you know, like the skater guys and tattoo artists and shit that would just like get talked into that kind of shit.
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Speaker 3: Then you live in L.A.
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Speaker 4: And you're just like seeing that Hollywood shit and you're like, oh, damn, these fools do that.
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Speaker 5: Yep. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I used to live in Hollywood. I know all about that.
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Speaker 3: That shit is crazy.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you see it all.
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Speaker 8: We were at Well, when we lived with Fat Mike in Las Vegas, when we first moved there, we were at one of his birthday parties. And that was one of the wildest birthday parties ever. There were people getting whipped.
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Speaker 7: Oh, sorry, I can't talk about it.
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Speaker 1: Can you say, yeah, I was going to say, how much can you eat?
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Speaker 7: I don't know, I'll just talk about the cake. The cake was just a giant ass with a... A butt plug.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God. The cake?
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Speaker 8: It was like a fondant cake with a butt plug and an asshole.
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Speaker 3: Did you eat it in the cake?
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Speaker 7: Probably.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could have done it.
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we can't talk about that.
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Speaker 7: I can. We can talk about anything we want.
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Speaker 3: I can't because I was a victim. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 7: There's other things on my mind about.
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Speaker 5: That night, too.
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Speaker 7: I know.
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Speaker 3: Look at my mom over here. She's pissed. She's about to hit somebody. Kim King.
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Speaker 7: Shout out to that wild porn star named Drake.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 3: The hammer?
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Speaker 5: Okay, I overheard you last night.
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Speaker 3: What do you mean they won't let you out?
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Speaker 5: Who won't?
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Speaker 7: Sam's mom.
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Speaker 3: Do you need to go save your mom? No, watch this. She don't care.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's.
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Speaker 2: She ain't messing around. She's telling everybody what's going on.
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Speaker 3: She's good. She used to listen to K-Don when I was a kid.
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Speaker 8: Nice.
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Speaker 2: She did?
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 6: Okay, so I heard you last night. So is Fat Mike still a member, ever was a member, or he kind of put you on a guy's blast originally, right? You were telling that story last night.
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Speaker 7: Oh, you're talking about Co-Defendants?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry. He's a member? Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Fat Mike's definitely a member of Co-Defendants. In the studio, he is super involved. He puts these records together with us.
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Speaker 5: He produces.
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Speaker 7: He writes with us. He's very involved. He just retired from touring. He'll show up at a show. He'll sing a song. He'll hang out.
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Speaker 8: You won't see a full set.
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Speaker 7: From Fat Mike unless it's a comedy routine or something.
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Speaker 3: You get all the shows. Yeah, you get that full set.
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, Fat Mike's definitely a co-defender.
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Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
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Speaker 8: We started without him, but we showed him about four demos, and we were hanging out with him a lot at that time, and he loved the demos, and he wanted to sign us, but then he got so involved with the process of it, we were like.
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Speaker 5: Dude, you're in the band.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
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Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: And if I made it to that level and I was tired of touring, I'd probably do the same thing. When you can make that choice, you have the luxury of making that.
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Speaker 2: Choice, why not?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that, I mean, there's a slippery slope, though, because the next thing you know, that money runs out, and you've got to be fucking opening up for Eddie Money at the fucking, at the fairgrounds, you know.
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Speaker 7: What I mean?
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Speaker 3: Or, like, you got to get an eight ball and go to the Canocti Harbor Resort. Oh, my God, Canocti.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, straight up. You know what's up?
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Speaker 3: I'm a San Jose head from way back then.
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Speaker 4: My continuation high school winter ball was at Bay 101. As soon as I saw me was like you are gonna be how we're gonna have fun tomorrow Lamont Sinelli still.
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Speaker 5: On the radio oh my god that's who we worked with.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's a funny story oh.
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Speaker 4: My god now you guys are talking right now you guys are saying QE and Shasta and I'm like what the fuck you guys are the fucking bulls from the fucking radio I was born and raised in San Jose California I knew it was 93 KSJL so you grew up on KSJL yeah you're OG When you guys promoted the KISS concert at the Oakland Coliseum, when they came back, when the dude died, I was fucking 15 feet away from him when he died.
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Speaker 5: Wait, which was?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were at the Oakland Coliseum, and Gene Simmons would fly to the rafters, you know, do his shit. And then in the concourse, the circular thing, it's on tile, but there were those fucking concrete things that went up kind of, you know, like from the ground up. Some kid ran up there and got up there and was trying to get up to, like, get in there. And he fucking slipped off of there, fucked up, or I don't know. But he hit his head on the tile.
00:11:07
Speaker 5: Oh, shit.
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Speaker 2: And you were right next to him?
00:11:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were, like, 15 feet away. I just heard it.
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Speaker 4: Oh, oh. And I looked back, and he was passed out. So it was, like, I didn't know he fell from up there.
00:11:14
Speaker 5: Interesting.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't, like, all, like, crazy. Oh, my God.
00:11:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you guys, like, your radio station probably got him there. Wow.
00:11:23
Speaker 3: That's how I found out about the show.
00:11:25
Speaker 5: Jesus.
00:11:28
Speaker 3: We'll blame it on Lamont.
00:11:28
Speaker 2: Lord help us.
00:11:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
00:11:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. Blame it on Hooters.
00:11:33
Speaker 2: Blame it on Hooters.
00:11:35
Speaker 5: Or Chalker.
00:11:37
Speaker 3: This is definitely going to blame it on Isaac Chalker.
00:11:41
Speaker 5: Well, you know his older brother too, right? Did you know him when.
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Speaker 3: He was an AM? No, no, no. I knew he was my OG, so he was like older than me.
00:11:47
Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha.
00:11:48
Speaker 7: He was older than you?
00:11:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was.
00:11:50
Speaker 2: He's going to love this interview.
00:11:51
Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he old as dirt, boy.
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Speaker 5: I know. He takes salt baths now after he goes skating.
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Speaker 4: Last time I went skating with him, he had one of those rose petal water pumpers.
00:12:02
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:12:03
Speaker 6: And he brings the leaf blower out and he cleans up the area. I've seen him on Instagram posting all that stuff.
00:12:08
Speaker 5: He listens to a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of Celine Dion lately. Heard he's been drinking a lot of White Claw. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 5: In his garage. His man cave garage.
00:12:18
Speaker 3: Fuck that.
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Speaker 4: That's not a man cave. That's like a mini museum of skateboarding.
00:12:22
Speaker 3: It is.
00:12:22
Speaker 5: That is true.
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Speaker 4: They should let school children go there and let him go. Because it's like a skate shop.
00:12:28
Speaker 7: He can give tours.
00:12:29
Speaker 5: This is the Chalker episode.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 4: I love it. My grandparents live up in Albion, so you've got to go past Santa Rosa.
00:12:38
Speaker 3: He still lives there. So anytime I can stop by Brotherhood. skate shop what up.
00:12:42
Speaker 4: Dudes um and like or at isaac's it's dope so i brought him a get dead skateboard my other band last time i went through that's cool i love going to his garage it's great okay.
00:12:52
Speaker 5: We need to go up there when he's.
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Speaker 2: Like a destination for everybody.
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Speaker 4: At this point everybody's allowed to go to isaac's house uh this is thursday night his address is 1432 ridge.
00:13:01
Speaker 2: Lake he just moved thank god that's not the.
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Speaker 4: New yeah he moved we don't have to edit that you lucky son of a bitch.
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Speaker 5: Just beep it out.
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Speaker 2: That's great.
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Speaker 1: So when you're out, you're on tour and everything, do you skate wherever you go?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Like everywhere? I skate.
00:13:20
Speaker 3: I skate.
00:13:20
Speaker 5: That's awesome.
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Speaker 3: They just watch me skate. Did you skate?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 4: Somebody asked Jesse the other day, they were like, is Sam good at skateboarding? And he's like, he goes fast.
00:13:34
Speaker 7: I know this fool brings his skateboard everywhere, even if he.
00:13:36
Speaker 5: Doesn't use it.
00:13:37
Speaker 2: I figured as much, yeah, yeah.
00:13:38
Speaker 7: It gets on a lot of planes, at least.
00:13:40
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:13:42
Speaker 3: Well, you never know.
00:13:42
Speaker 4: It's like when I don't have it, it's when it's like, hey, the liquor store is like five blocks that way, but we only have five, you know.
00:13:49
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:13:50
Speaker 3: I feel better with it around.
00:13:51
Speaker 2: It's a life hack.
00:13:52
Speaker 5: What does it mean for you guys to be on Fat Record?
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Speaker 6: Such a legendary label that's, I mean, I have so many, like, you know, compilations, CDs, from the, obviously, NoFX, all the bands that have been on there. But what does it mean to be affiliated with Phat Records, a Bay Area label?
00:14:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, it's a Bay Area label, like I said.
00:14:08
Speaker 4: Me and Chesky both have, like, deep roots in the Bay Area, and, you know, up until I moved to Las Vegas, I just, I always lived there, so.
00:14:15
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:14:17
Speaker 3: Growing up as a skateboarder, too, in the Bay Area, a.
00:14:19
Speaker 4: Lot of those bands, like NoFX, Lagwagon face-to-face. They were all on the 411 videos. They were all on those skate videos. You're always psyched when there was a Bay Area band on anything.
00:14:32
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
00:14:33
Speaker 3: We just saw James Hetfield went to.
00:14:36
Speaker 5: The Punk Rock Museum. It's all that.
00:14:39
Speaker 3: And one of my good friends, Brent Casquillo, Casquillo. Don't get mad at it.
00:14:46
Speaker 4: We painted the Punk Rock Museum thing. He, the painting out there with our friend Puzzle.
00:14:51
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:14:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:14:52
Speaker 3: And he, Brant had his first son and he named him Cliff.
00:14:56
Speaker 2: Wow.
00:14:57
Speaker 3: After Metallica.
00:14:58
Speaker 5: Cliff Burton.
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Speaker 4: And he's also got this really bad like stomach rocker. It's like thou Torah kingdom of whatever the fuck it is.
00:15:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:15:05
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
00:15:06
Speaker 4: Because you can't read it because it's this skinny because it's so big. Yeah.
00:15:10
Speaker 3: But, you know, he's been doing his push-ups. He's looking good.
00:15:12
Speaker 2: Oh, you're looking good.
00:15:13
Speaker 4: But, yeah, but it was super cool the other night. I got to send him the picture of James Hetfield. And I was like, in front of the shit that he painted. And I'm like, yo, show this to Cliff, you know?
00:15:22
Speaker 5: Oh, that's awesome.
00:15:23
Speaker 1: Since you're in Vegas, are you guys going to go to the Sphere and see Metallica?
00:15:27
Speaker 7: We would like to, yeah.
00:15:28
Speaker 8: You know, our homie, our guitarist, Cesar, he's friends with the Trujillo family.
00:15:34
Speaker 7: And so, yeah, I think they.
00:15:40
Speaker 8: Eden tried to invite us to the Sphere to one of the shows, but we're playing the same night, so we can't even go.
00:15:46
Speaker 5: Oh, wow. It's a bummer.
00:15:48
Speaker 1: You had to turn down a personal invite?
00:15:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cesar, come on in. Tell them what happened with the Sphere, because we almost went. We were talking about.
00:15:55
Speaker 2: Metallica at the Sphere. I was asking if you guys were going to go. You had to turn it down?
00:16:01
Speaker 5: What's up?
00:16:01
Speaker 2: You had to turn down the Sphere at the Sphere.
00:16:03
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, because I think Code Offense is a little bit better.
00:16:06
Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:16:09
Speaker 7: Not just because I play.
00:16:10
Speaker 5: No, no, I'm just messing. Can I cuss?
00:16:15
Speaker 4: Yeah?
00:16:16
Speaker 7: Okay, cool.
00:16:17
Speaker 5: Oh, perfect.
00:16:18
Speaker 9: Yeah, so, yeah, just I'm actually in Robert Chihiro's wife's band.
00:16:24
Speaker 5: We're called 66 Steps. Shout out. Yeah, it was Chloe.
00:16:27
Speaker 9: So I play drums and keys in that band. Yeah, and then, like, they're awesome. Yeah, they're awesome people and the whole family, like they're just so amazing. Ty's a good homie.
00:16:38
Speaker 7: Lula too.
00:16:39
Speaker 9: I helped out Lula with the whole art world and Chloe as well. And we collaborated and did this tattoo together. So yeah, so it's so rad because the whole family is so amazing. And the story with Robert, like it's just insane because I, we met doing an art show, you know, and he came up to me and wanted to talk to me. And then the thing he asked was like, hey, can I have your number? And I'm like, you want my number, dude?
00:17:02
Speaker 7: That's wild, but all right.
00:17:04
Speaker 3: And then, yeah.
00:17:05
Speaker 9: And then, and then, and then he, yeah. And then he got my number. And then after that, he, you know, I was like, dude, I didn't give him my number. Like I didn't get his number. And then, uh, two days later he texted me like, Hey bro, check this out. And it's a ties band called auto.
00:17:18
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah.
00:17:19
Speaker 9: And then, so he's like, dude, check it out. We shot this beautiful, beautiful music video. And then we just bonded even more. And it's just amazing.
00:17:25
Speaker 5: Cause, uh, they're great people.
00:17:26
Speaker 9: And, The family is so amazing and really talented and just humble and just awesome. And to be part of all that's awesome, you know. And then you get Sam and Chesky that are also great people that help out other, you know, musicians and artists. And just knowing that we're all just in the same family, just in different worlds, but we all collide and, you know, be together and stuff. And we're all playing together, kind of, in Vegas on Thursday.
00:17:50
Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
00:17:51
Speaker 3: Awesome.
00:17:51
Speaker 1: The rock and roll world is so small. I mean, it's remarkable. Like, you know, you can make all these connections to everybody.
00:17:58
Speaker 8: And last weekend alone, Metallica, you know, James Hetfield showed up at the Punk Rock Museum, which we helped.
00:18:05
Speaker 7: You know, start with that mic.
00:18:06
Speaker 8: And we were a part of the whole beginning of it. And then that same day... Dave Grohl shouted out Fat Mike in the Punk Rock Museum.
00:18:13
Speaker 5: I saw that Instagram. Yes, I did.
00:18:16
Speaker 8: And then Fat Mike texted us that night. He's like, you know what? I missed it when he shouted me out. I was hanging with Johnny Depp backstage.
00:18:23
Speaker 5: What?
00:18:25
Speaker 7: When I was shooting pool with Johnny Depp.
00:18:27
Speaker 2: Okay, name dropping.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: No, no, me and Johnny Depp are best friends now.
00:18:30
Speaker 8: Boom. I don't know how real that is, but I know he kicked it with him.
00:18:34
Speaker 5: Oh, that's cool, because I saw the video. Yeah, because Chris was about to do a No Use for a Name song. Yes.
00:18:40
Speaker 2: Wow, that is so sick.
00:18:42
Speaker 7: Which all comes back to Fat Wreck.
00:18:43
Speaker 5: It does.
00:18:44
Speaker 7: You know, it really is legendary.
00:18:45
Speaker 2: It really is.
00:18:46
Speaker 8: When you can be in the biggest rock band in the world at a stadium somewhere, and they're talking about No Use for a Name and Fat Wreck, like, yeah it's legendary.
00:18:55
Speaker 1: Yeah it is legendary for sure i'm so glad you joined us because i have a favorite question that we always end our interviews with and i have a feeling you will have a lot to add to this so do you remember the movie almost famous from the early 2000s okay my favorite movie of all time in that movie the last frame of the movie the question is asked what do you love about music so who wants to start.
00:19:13
Speaker 2: Oh they're putting you on all.
00:19:16
Speaker 9: Right go for it well what i love about music is uh growing up in South central, I really didn't get to really express my feelings. Cause if you did, it was more like a weakness, you know, and going to the barrio, like you just got to learn, Hey man, just, just go home and make sure to walk to school, make sure to come back and you're okay. So I learned with music actually saved me.
00:19:35
Speaker 5: So I felt like, cause I also.
00:19:37
Speaker 9: Sing as well with my other band called unsound Sunday and which we wrote some songs together. Uh, but it's amazing that I get to express my feelings.
00:19:45
Speaker 5: Through the music and with the whole art world.
00:19:48
Speaker 7: And it's great. Uh, helps me.
00:19:50
Speaker 5: It's more like therapeutic. And when I play, it's great, you know?
00:19:53
Speaker 9: So, yeah, it just gets you help out.
00:19:54
Speaker 5: Sorry. Sorry about that.
00:19:55
Speaker 2: No, it's all good.
00:19:59
Speaker 5: A run by hugging. Yeah.
00:20:01
Speaker 9: But it brings people together, though, too, so that's another great thing about music.
00:20:04
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Just therapeutic, you know?
00:20:06
Speaker 2: Universal language, too. I'm glad to hear that. It saved you. All right, who's next? What do you love about music?
00:20:14
Speaker 3: When it hits you, you feel no pain.
00:20:16
Speaker 5: Ooh, that's good.
00:20:18
Speaker 2: See, he had time to think while you were talking.
00:20:20
Speaker 7: He stole that from Bob Marley. But, yeah, for me, it fully is the same.
00:20:28
Speaker 8: Not to, like, repeat your answer, but for me as, like, a 13-, 14-year-old kid who had a lot of mental health problems and didn't know how to express himself, that was my expression it wasn't through talking to anybody or going to actual therapists or anything that was my that was my way to get these feelings out and I started that's around the time I started recording on a four track and and it never got old to me to this day I get bored of things real easily music has never gotten old to me writing has never gotten old to me and It's the only thing in my life that's like that really.
00:21:05
Speaker 7: So that's why we're here still.
00:21:06
Speaker 3: It's definitely gone stale before.
00:21:08
Speaker 5: Oh, for sure.
00:21:08
Speaker 7: There's seasons.
00:21:10
Speaker 4: You have these seasons where there's like this lull, but then all of a sudden you'll just like, you know, every couple years you'll get this one artist that just breaks through for you that you're just.
00:21:18
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I'm listening to this for the next three months. That's all I listen to.
00:21:21
Speaker 2: And it's like they reignite the fire.
00:21:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like.
00:21:23
Speaker 3: Pissing people off because you're getting your inspiration from it.
00:21:26
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely. And the fact that you can make a song.
00:21:31
Speaker 8: completely for yourself sometimes and then it belongs to everybody and you'll.
00:21:35
Speaker 7: Hear people singing it back to you sometimes. It's like, that is a crazy thing.
00:21:39
Speaker 4: Music in general, just making, like music's like one of the only things that you can do besides like drawing or some shit like that where you can literally make nothing turn into something.
00:21:47
Speaker 7: Yeah, that moves. Yeah, like you said. They can move all types of people.
00:21:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, magic.
00:21:54
Speaker 7: Hermano, tú ya sabes.
00:21:56
Speaker 3: Bro, you were like, you were with them, bro.
00:22:00
Speaker 7: Shout out Tigre Ternorte.
00:22:03
Speaker 1: You guys are absolutely awesome. I'm so glad we were able to chat with you guys.
00:22:06
Speaker 2: So nice to meet you. I'm glad you walked by. That was perfect timing.
00:22:09
Speaker 5: I was going to go fucking see the show.
00:22:11
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, go see the show.
00:22:13
Speaker 5: Go do it.
00:22:14
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for being here.
00:22:15
Speaker 5: Thank you. That's right.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: All right. We love you guys.
