# Pat Kinsel
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#113 From Notarization to National Impact w/ Pat Kinsel, Founder & CEO , Proof (Formerly Notarize)
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Pat Kinsel is the founder and CEO of Proof (formerly Notarize). He shares his remarkable journey of transforming the notarization industry with cutting-edge digital solutions. Discove…
The Trust Blueprint: S1 The Payment Parallel - E2: Issuing Credentials: The Foundation of Payment Networks
In Episode Two of "The Payment Parallel," Proof CEO Pat Kinsel sits down with author David Stearns to discuss the foundation of a payment network: the credential.
From the Diner’s Club card in the 1950s to today's Tap to Pay, David explores the history of the payments industry and how it solved th…
The Trust Blueprint: S1 The Payment Parallel - E1: Lessons from Payments: What Can the Identity Industry Learn?
In this episode of "The Payment Parallel," Proof CEO Pat Kinsel sits down with author David Stearns to discuss the outdated and cumbersome process of identity verification—and what the identity industry can learn from the evolution of digital payments.
David shares his experience navigating manual…
The Trust Blueprint: S1 The Payment Parallel - E3: Authenticating & Authorizing Transactions: Securing Identity Like Payments
In Episode Three of "The Payment Parallel," Proof CEO Pat Kinsel sits down with author David Stearns to discuss the technology that truly accelerated the growth of the payments industry: the underlying network!
Connecting merchants to issuing banks, David explores how payments evolved from pape…
The Trust Blueprint: S1 The Payment Parallel - E4: Keeping Participants Safe: Consumer Protections in Payment Networks
In the final episode of "The Payment Parallel," Proof CEO Pat Kinsel interviews author David Stearns about how consumer protections helped rewrite the history of the payments industry.
David explores the societal and policy challenges that faced the payments industry in the late 60s and early 7…
Product-Market Fit Lost and Found After a 100x Spike
Negative 110% gross margins. Then COVID demand spiked 100x overnight - and nearly killed the company anyway. Pat Kinsel spent years chasing product-market fit while losing money on every transaction. When the pandemic brought 100x growth, most of those customers were urgency buyers who churned when…
The Future of Financial Services with Ian Macallister (Plaid, Unit21, Zelle)
Kicking off The Trust Blueprint, Pat Kinsel sits down with Ian Macallister, Proof’s EVP of Strategy and Business Development. Drawing on experience at Plaid, Unit21, and Early Warning (Zelle), Ian shares how he’s helping banks and fintechs bridge the toughest gaps in identity, risk, and payment inf…
The Future of Real Estate with Natalia Karayaneva (Propy)
In this episode of The Trust Blueprint, Proof CEO Pat Kinsel sits down with Natalia Karayaneva, Founder and CEO of Propy, for a conversation on the future of real estate, blockchain, and programmable property.
Pat and Natalia first connected nearly a decade ago when both companies were in their ea…
On The Internet, No One Knows You’re A Dog, Or A Bot—Except Proof
If you've ever notarized a document online instead of having to get in your car to drive to a notary public, you have Pat Kinsel to thank. And if one day your identity is not stolen after you purchase something on the web, you may have Pat and his team to thank for that, too.
As Co-Founder of the i…
AI Is Changing Identity Forever. Are Credit Unions Ready?
Kris Kovacs sits down with Pat Kinsel, founder and CEO of Proof, to explore what identity and trust look like in the age of AI. From deepfakes and AI agents to fraud prevention and persistent digital identity, Pat explains why credit unions could play a critical role in proving who members are and …
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