Cognitive Surrender

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Father, what a privilege it is to be together
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today to share, to catch up, to talk about what's
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been going on, not just in this world, but in
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our own hearts as well. We pray for our listeners
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today, our friends, people that are part of the
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get -to nation. We pray for them, Lord, and we
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pray for their hearts as well. Lord, the world
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is assaulting their hearts and trying to grab
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their attention for everything like a dumpster
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fire. So, Lord, we pray for the peace that passes
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all understanding to guard and garrison our hearts
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and our minds in Christ Jesus, in Jesus' name.
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Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, August 12th, 2026.
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We get to do this. This is episode number 45.
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we get to do this oh yeah we do hello brother
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welcome back thank you do you notice now when
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we see each other and we're we're getting set
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ready for the show that we're kind of not really
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talking Absolutely. Absolutely. I got stuff to
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say. Save it. I don't want anything to roll out
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before the show. Don't say anything. I know.
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I love it. And I want to say hello to everyone
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coming in from No Agenda, those who are believers,
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those who are coming back to their faith. The
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Christ Curious. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, this
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hit me this morning. Nice spin. Holy Spirit gave
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me Christ Curious. Ooh, jot that down. That's
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good. Yeah. Oh, man. What a week it's been. You've
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had a week. You've been on an adventure and it's
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heavy lifting. It has been. So we went to San
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Francisco, this is for John C. Dvorak's memorial.
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We got in Friday, the memorial's on Saturday.
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So really like for 24 hours, I'm just, because
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I was going to speak, I was asked to say something,
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so I'm kind of all keyed up about that. Seeing
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the family, people came in from the Netherlands,
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from Tokyo, from all over the country just to
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be there. From Tennessee. Patrick Cobol from
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Tennessee, from Los Angeles, just from everywhere.
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There were people there who I'd only heard of
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because I know their names from the old Osborne
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computer days, from the old DOS. PC telecommunications
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days, you know that because John had written
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I don't like 36 books or something so he had
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a lot of you know, a lot of that going on but
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really the things that were great is that Everybody
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well two things everybody Had a story about how
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he had helped them in their career one way or
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another Everybody agreed completely on his gruffness
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and his lack of seeming human candor. But the
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thing that really struck me, and one guy who
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would work with John on the book side had mentioned
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it, and I knew this inherently, is that his criticism,
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which you could see as like, just like, man,
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you're such a, you're mean. Why are you saying
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this to me? you know, his criticism of technology,
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like, you know, there's no evidence anybody wants
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to use a mouse. The Apple watch is no good. He
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really, and of course at the time when he said
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these things, they were true. He's, you know,
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excoriated me for things that I've done or said.
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He really only was doing that to make things
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better, to make people do better, to have tech
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companies do better. And I knew that, but you
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know, have someone actually say it. I'm like,
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Yeah. Wow. That is true. Cause he could have
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been extremely wealthy consulting, working for
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companies, but instead he just drove people to
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do better because he thought that it was not
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good enough. Wow. And that was, that was really
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nice. Yeah. His line, that's no good. I mean,
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that's, that's classic John Dvorak. I love it.
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weight dropped off of me, I would say, and just
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being with the family, you know, we had to figure,
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we had to go to the bank and sit there for three
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hours to avoid probates. It's not, you know,
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people get your affairs in order. It really sucks
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for people after the fact to go and fix stuff.
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That's heavy lifting. That's emotional. It was
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heavy lifting because too, you're feeling the
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weight of all the folks that are coming. I mean,
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anytime we come to a celebration of life, you
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know, memorial service or a funeral, it's heavy
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lifting because there's just weight in the room.
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You know, people are grieving, people are going
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through that. But there's also the celebration
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of life side where you get to tell the funny
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things and the good things. It's life giving
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too. So it's all that's hitting you at the same
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time. So it is heavy lifting. And there were
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comedians there, myself. kind of included, I'll
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just add myself a little bit. But, you know,
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he had a lot of comedian friends, his wife Mimi,
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she came from the comedy world. I didn't know
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that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She worked early on with
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Robin Williams, a lot of the greats. And so there
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were some funny people. You see, you know, some
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78 year old guy getting up there and all of a
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sudden he's doing shtick. It's like, oh, wow.
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Okay. A pro, an old pro. Old pros. That's cool.
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Yeah. So it was, The thing that was kind of interesting
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is, you know, so all these people were speaking
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in this beautiful chapel, this 100 -year -old
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chapel in Oakland, just beautiful stained glass,
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wooden pews, not really big. And, you know, as
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I was talking just in general about how I got
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at the end of my speech, how I got saved and
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how John just thought that would be great for
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the show. And I'm like, I just want to pray over
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everybody here. And because no one mentioned
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God, no one was doing any of that. And what came
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out of my mouth was kind of interesting because
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I said, let's bow our heads. This is interesting.
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When you say that, almost everyone's head went
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down. Yeah, they do. Out of respect. But it was
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like Pavlovian almost. It's like it's built into
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their system. I was like, oh, wow. OK. And then
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I just prayed for everyone to be lifted up. Beautiful.
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And that kind of ended the era. And now we move
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on to the new season, which, of course, a big
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part of that is we get to do this, brother. And
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we do get to do this. I am so excited. I'm so
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excited. I say it 50 times a day, not because
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it's a podcast title. It's just innate. It's
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in me. I can't. I'm so grateful. When you live
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a grateful life, Things like living up in a down
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world. I'm living up in a down world. I get to
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do this These things become natural for you.
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Yeah, but also neurologically they drive something
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into you Oh, yeah, and they build upon and over
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time it becomes your whole perception and perspective
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To where now you're saying it to people who are
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going. Oh, I've never thought of that before
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Yeah, I mean cuz I never heard it before. Yeah,
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we do this right our whole staff says it I mean
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it's hilarious for me to hear it coming back.
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Cause I know it's getting in the culture. I get,
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you know, recordings and clips from people of
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someone else just saying, you know, well, you
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know, we really get to do this and like, Oh,
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I caught it. I caught it. So it's kind of out
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there now when last week you had not yet gone
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to the first of your two meets. MEAT ups for
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healing humanity. So I want to hear how they
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went. It was Dallas and Austin, right? Dallas
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and Austin. We drove to Austin, flew to Dallas,
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man. Favor all along the way. You know, you and
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I, when we travel, we always pray for each other
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for travel favor and grace. You know, just open
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doors. And we always pray for each other for
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an awareness of what's happening on the journey
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as opposed to just the destination. Yes. Because
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to me, traveling is about who you're helping
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at the airport. We're bumping into striking a
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conversation with absolutely somebody sitting
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on a plane or whose luggage you helping stuff
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in a bin And it's there's so many opportunities
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to light candles. Yeah, you know and just do
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good I mean be good do good, you know scripture
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says this that you know You don't don't be overcome
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by evil but overcome evil with good Yes, and
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so while the world waxes darker and worse we
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can be good and and we do it from the perspective
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of of the gift of the Holy Spirit. Actually,
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a fruit of the Spirit is goodness. So we just
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do it and we honor God in it. So I love the journey.
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I'm like, man, my eyes are wide open the whole
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time. It's like, I want more layovers so I can
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have more fun on the journey. I have no problem
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with layovers, man, because it's like just opportunities
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to talk to people and engage. I mean, that's
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what we do. And so great trip. Ended up in Dallas.
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Man, Dallas is just Dallas, right? I mean, traffic
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and all that, but really it wasn't that bad.
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I mean, we struck up conversations with everybody
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we met, but we didn't do it on purpose. We live
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with purpose. So those things happen, I guess,
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on purpose, but not because you're just trying
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to like, oh, I got to make a conversation here.
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It's just, no, I mean, just talk about life and
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stuff and laugh. And yeah, we had so much fun
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on the journey with everybody. Even the rental
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car guy was cool. He was like, man, can I get
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you something? Hey, let me go get that car for
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you. Let me make sure you get the right car.
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Because when you start living this life, it starts
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to ooze out of your pores. You don't even know
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it. The aroma of Christ is getting there. Before
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you do because I mean like you have a very smell
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you coming. Well, you have a very Distinctive
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cologne that you wear which in a weird twist
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of fate my wife got it for me Yeah, no, I said
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honey conversations need to be had here. This
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is weird. I Smelled me when I came in. No, no,
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no, I got the other one. Oh Johnny Depp on it
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I'm just a toilet water over here new one the
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new scent I can't even pronounce it. But anyway,
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so when I put it on, I said, I smell like Adam
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Curry. She goes, I love Adam Curry's smell, but
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it's weirding me out because I feel like he's
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here. He's in my space right now. No way. He's
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halfway across the United States. So anyway,
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all that to say, sorry, man, I got to tell you.
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I'm just laughing all the way to the bank here.
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So we get to Dallas and again, just crazy open
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door of fun stuff happens. Like meeting Toby.
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Did I talk about Toby last week? I talked about
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it in the message, but I don't know if I did.
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I met Toby, he's the guy who - The checkout guy?
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Yeah, I wanted to know if I was a financier.
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Yeah, we talked about Toby last time. So yeah,
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that's right. Because that was before the meetups,
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but after we were there, I was remote last week.
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By the way, the production sounded really good.
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I'm telling you, man, this stuff works. That
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mini pod thing is amazing. Pod mobile. Pod mobile.
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So we went to the - We did a VIP dinner, which
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is great because it was at a Brazilian steakhouse.
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Boy, how appropriate is that? These guys are
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coming around with swords and pieces of meat
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and slice and food. I've been to one of these
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restaurants. Man, it was awesome. But we got
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to meet people. Oh, go ahead. Is that the one
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where if you want more meat, you put a little
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red sticker down and you flip the thing over?
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Red and green. Red and green. They just left
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mine on green. Easy to overeat in these places.
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Man, it was awesome. The people that attended
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that, they paid extra to come to that and to
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meet the people who were in the movie. So we
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were there. So we got to meet people. It was
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a meetup. It was like the connect center here
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at the church. We're hanging around, just having
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fun with people, hearing their stories, not really
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telling ours because they're going to need to
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see it in the movie, but we get to hear their
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stories and just hearing people just what they've
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been free from and what they've gotten. Food
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addictions that were like deadly. I mean like
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killing them kind of things You know three four
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or five hundred pounds and somebody losing two
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hundred and seventy pounds now This is all done
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on carnivore carnivore diet or diet carnivore
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and ketobor So the carnivore space seems to have
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taken in the keto space as well, because there's
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a realization that not everybody can do that.
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What is the difference between the two? Carnivore
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is basically beef, butter, bacon and eggs, and
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drinking electrolytes and water. So it's pretty
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like a lion diet thing. So it's pretty basic.
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No carbs, all protein and fat. So you begin to
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burn fat for fuel, which is amazing, because
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that's when you become superhuman and you feel
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like you are. So, ketivore is your strongly protein
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meat, meat, poultry, fish, strongly like 80%.
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But then you also like salad or you enjoy healthy,
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clean other kinds of food, avocados. Can you
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have a potato? No, no potato. Potato is no good.
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In the words of John DeVorek, that's no good.
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It's no good. So no, potatoes are bad. They're
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starch, so it's pure sugar when it hits your
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system. So all these people doing this together
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is really cool. There was like 225 people. They
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sold out that theater, small theater and downtown,
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old downtown grapevine, which is a real cool
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little drag. It's neat and sold it out. So man,
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it was a great spirit in the house. We watched
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the movie, man, I cried again just over, cause
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I know some of these people that have gone through
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some hard stuff and they're doing well and one
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not so well, but At the end of it, they brought
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us up on the platform because it was an old movie
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theater with a stage, so they brought us up there.
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Annette and I and Ashley Rogers, who's one of
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the Carnivore brothers, and Carey Mann, who has
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Homestead Howl, that's his channel. He's the
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founder. He's the one who had the vision. A YouTuber,
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he says, man, I'm just a YouTuber who barely
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graduated from high school and I felt like I
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was supposed to make a movie. He said, I had
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no idea what I was getting into. So they produce
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this movie. They've got over 400 hours of footage.
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That's a lot. Beyond the movie. That's a lot.
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So they're going to do a YouTube series and roll
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these stories out just so people can see their
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stories. Good. So we got up there and we did
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Q &A. They'd given everybody cards. They were
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writing down their questions during the movie.
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And man, they're firing them right and left at
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us when we get up there. And it was so fun. And
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I got to talk about the Lord. over and over.
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This is what I appreciate about Carryman. They
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introduced me in Annette as Pastor Jimmy in Annette.
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That's all they ever call us. Right. And what
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that's done, we're sort of the unofficial chaplains,
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pastors of the carnivore space. And it's not
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that we tried to do it, we just showed up and
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we were just who we were. So how do you connect
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the carnivore, ketovore, audience with faith.
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I can think of a lot of them. How did you do
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that? The way I do it, I talk about mind, body,
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and spirit that were three parts as a person.
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And everybody's cool about stewarding their mental
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health. And then a lot of people are good about
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stewarding their spiritual health, but we're
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not good about stewarding our physical health.
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And so I describe it as a three -legged stool.
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If you have three legs, one is spirit, one mind,
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one body, and then you cut off any one of those
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three inches, you have a dysfunctional stool.
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Many of us have a dysfunctional life because
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we are not balanced in those things. We're not
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stewarding them well. So that's my step into
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that. That's my spiel, if you will, into that.
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And it makes sense with people. They're like,
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yeah, I could see that. So we just talk about
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it matter of faculty and the fact that they introduce
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us as pastors, that's kind of green light go.
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People are going to expect it. So I met Froda
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from Finland, And he said, man, he said, I'm
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noticing that in this area of health, most people
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are Christians. And I said, well, I said, it's
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a good observation. I said, I think it's because
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what we're doing here, we're not trying to make
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money. We're just trying to help people. So that's
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going to attract people who are generally have
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a good moral compass. And that's going to be
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probably more than likely, mostly. Christians,
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but others too, that are just good people that
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want to help others, you know, get whole, get
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healed. And he loved it. He said, well, I know
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there's evil because I think, I think there's
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a very real evil that creates. Oh, always the
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first step, man. That's perfect. Naomi Wolf,
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Adam C. Curry right there, man. It was a setup.
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And I said, yeah, because man, if there's, if
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there's evil that's causing people to eat bad
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and it's killing them, you know, trashing their
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health, then there's got to be good. And he said,
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yeah, I mean, it was a great conversation with
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Froda. And he had a very thick accent. Oh, yeah.
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The fins, for sure. Yeah. He was neat, though.
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Gosh, we met a guy in the tech world from San
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Diego. No, San Francisco. San Diego. He's San
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Diego. Met another guy. And all these guys came
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up to us after it was over with, and either wanted
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to talk about our faith, the connection of faith
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and health, or health. They wanted practical
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things. So we got there at 5 PM for the dinner.
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We left at 1130 p .m. Because not only did we
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close the theater down we stood outside for another
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hour an hour and a half talking to people who
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didn't want to leave I love that because they
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were learning and growing and we were just connecting
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so that happened twice it happened once in Dallas
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then we got back on the plane flew to Austin
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did it again the next night love that five o
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'clock that night till 1130 so Like the Holy
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Spirit is moving around this topic And as you're
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out there, and I'm always looking for, you know,
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topics for the show, you know, we always try
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to hit things that are happening in culture.
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How does that fit in with our world, with our
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worldview? 60 Minutes has this entire piece about
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food. And wow, I mean, I had to bring a couple
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clips and I have some thoughts about how we can
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look at this. I'll just kick it off with their
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beginning because the stuff you hear from this
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and a guy named Kessler used to be the FDA administrator
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and RFK Jr., they're both in this piece and I
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pulled some clips for us. Today, an increasing
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number of Americans across the political spectrum,
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from Make America Healthy Again activists to
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everyday shoppers, are voicing concern about
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the health impact of ultra -processed foods,
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those boxed and wrapped in plastic ready -to
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-eat items lining grocery store shelves. Leading
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the charge are two men who disagree on pretty
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much everything else about public health. Health
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and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
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Jr. and Dr. David Kessler, the former commissioner
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of the U .S. Food and Drug Administration. The
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two men have found common ground over a common
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culprit, a 67 -year -old government classification
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for substances in our food. It's called GRASS,
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or generally recognized as SAFE. Kennedy and
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Kessler say it has allowed big food companies
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to use ingredients without a full government
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safety review and flood the market with ultra
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-processed foods that now make up 50 % of our
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calories and 60 % of our children's diets. Over
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the last 40 years, the United States has been
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exposed to something that our biology was never
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intended to handle. energy -dense, highly palatable,
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rapidly absorbable, ultra -processed foods that
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have altered our metabolism and have resulted
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in the greatest increase in chronic disease in
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our history. Type 2 diabetes, pre -diabetes,
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hypertension, abnormal lipids, fatty liver, heart
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attacks, stroke. heart failure From our food
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from our food. Yay food Boy, the maha effect
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man. Well, it's it's amazing because Kessler
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Kessler is definitely not on the maha train when
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it writes a lot of other things But he is the
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guy that went after big tobacco. Oh wow for you
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know them purposely making it addictive. David
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Kessler was commissioner of the US Food and Drug
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Administration during the 1990s when he helped
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expose how the tobacco companies manipulated
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nicotine levels to hook consumers. I am here
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to provide you with actual instances of nicotine
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control and manipulation in the tobacco industry.
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He was a driving force in bringing tobacco executives
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before Congress and turning public attention
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to the industry. He's now aiming to do the same
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with the food industry. In terms of a public
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health crisis, how does this compare with tobacco?
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It's as large, if not larger. It's that significant.
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The scale of this, this affects everybody. Understand,
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not everybody's smoked. Look at the number of
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people who consume ultra -processed food. It
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touches all of us. Seventy percent of Americans
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are either obese or overweight. And it's not
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because they got indolent or because we became
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lazy or because we suddenly developed giant appetites.
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It's because we're being given food that is low
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in nutrition. and high in calories and it's making,
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it's destroying our health. Yeah, and it's addictive.
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Play one more with some stats and then we're
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going to talk about some things. We met with
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Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
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Kennedy Jr. last month after he issued new dietary
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guidelines that for the first time advise against
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highly processed foods. You have said that these
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ultra -processed foods are poisoning us. I think
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many Americans would be surprised to hear that.
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We're seeing in our population people who are
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obscenely obese and at the same time malnourished.
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Kennedy says that's largely because we don't
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know the health consequences of what we're eating.
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Thanks to the grass exemption enacted by Congress
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in 1958 that allows food companies to independently
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verify the safety of their ingredients with no
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government oversight if they are generally recognized
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by experts as safe. Pending White House approval,
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he intends to close that back door. That loophole
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is hijacked by the industry. And it was used
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to add thousands upon thousands of new ingredients
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into our food supply. In Europe, there's only
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400 legal ingredients. This agency does not know
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how many ingredients there are in American food.
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We do not know. They do not know. The estimates
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are between 4 ,000 and 10 ,000. We have no idea
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what they are. How do we... know what is safe
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to eat. There is no way for any American to know
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if a product is safe if it is ultra processed.
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That's a lot of stuff we don't know about that's
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in our food. So I want to go to the word of God.
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And so I started looking stuff up, you know,
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what are we supposed to eat? And the right food
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is is a is a is in the Bible and metaphor, you
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know, food, food for all kinds, you know, not
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necessarily sustenance. And the two that obviously
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I came up with, Genesis 1, 29, 30, then God said,
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look, I think He said like that, look, I have
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given you every seed -bearing plant throughout
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the earth and all the fruit trees for your food.
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And I've given every green plant as food for
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all the wild animals, the birds in the sky and
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the small animals that scurry along the ground,
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everything that has life. And that is what happened.
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And then Genesis 9, 3 to 4, we get kind of an
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expansion. And this is just me, amateur theologian.
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I have given them to you for food, just as I
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have given you grain and vegetables. But you
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must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood
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in it. So is this telling us to be Ketovor? Yeah,
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I know this is a loaded question I'm throwing
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at you. It is. Here's the thing. So Jordan Rubin
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has done a lot of work on this. He's a Messianic
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Jewish guy who nearly died in high school because
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of all kinds of health issues. Turns out it was
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diet related and took a lot of work to get to
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it. It took him years to figure it out before
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he finally turned the corner. And he wrote a
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book called The Biblio Diet, where he's talking
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about these very things. He makes a distinction,
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which I would make that same distinction that
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Sadly, a lot of the things that are listed on
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that list have been genetically modified by the
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food industry. It's hard to know if you're eating
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really clean foods. For example, an apple today
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is basically like a piece of candy. It has been
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so modified. Sugarized. It's got dye in the skin.
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messed with genetically in order to produce massive,
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huge, large, gorgeous apples. Whereas 100 years
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ago, when you were eating real apples, real food
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that was not modified, hadn't been sprayed with
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pesticides, they were small and they weren't
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that sweet. Even the term organic is crap. That
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rating is... It's literally a marketing ploy.
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Exactly. It sounds good, but it doesn't mean
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at all that it's straight from an old school
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tree. Sadly it doesn't, because the parameters
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for calling something organic doesn't mean that
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it hasn't been sprayed or messed with. It's a
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how much has it been sprayed or messed with.
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So you're still getting that stuff. So the safest
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thing to do, I mean, if it's even possible, is
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to go to a farmer's market where these guys,
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but then again, you don't. So he was right. We
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don't know. We don't know. One of the things
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that is appealing to me as someone who has been
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down this, walked in this space for a long time,
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is that I want to be able to eat something that
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I know has the best chance of being healthy by
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the time it gets to my. Which is why we get our
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beef from our ranchers and we know them. We've
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shaken their hand. We feel good about what they're
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doing. They tell us what they are and aren't
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doing. That's number one. But you're right about
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the greens, you know, vegetables and fruit. You
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really don't know. How many recalls have we seen
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recently on vegetables and fruit? I mean lettuce
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will just give you explosive diarrhea these days.
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And what is lettuce anyway contains no nutrients.
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It's a medium for all the crap you put on it
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that you like. All the sweet stuff. Pineapple,
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sugarized strawberries, the stuff we add to it.
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So yeah, this goes down the rabbit hole real
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quick. And yet these are not conspiracy theories
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around food. This is proven, documented. It's
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been for years, decades. It has gotten worse.
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Should we be doing something about that as believers?
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Should we be a means? We need to be okay, so
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we go back to stewardship. The word steward simply
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means handling God's blessings, God's ways. We
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were blessed with a physical body. It's the only
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thing we'll have from birth to death is our body,
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our physical, our earth suit, if you will. It's
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the only thing we'll have. And yet it's one of
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the things we treat the worst. We don't get the
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sleep we need. Loaded with cortisol from living
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stressful lives and not knowing what how to dump
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that We we eat what's been handed to us. It's
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called SAD the sad diet the standard American
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diet It's even called that yeah sad because it
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is because it's destroying people's health and
00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:10.450
that is documented There's there is no argument
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on there's no debate on this by the way because
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it's it's we have the receipts and So we have
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to be selective and wise about what we're going
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to do So going into a restaurant, I eat, I'll
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order a steak and I say, do you cook with seed
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.299
oils on your steak? Because when they come out
00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:31.059
and they're glistening, that's a good chance
00:29:31.059 --> 00:29:33.180
that things are bathed in all kinds of stuff.
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.880
That's really bad for you. And in my system,
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.740
when I'm clicking, which I'm back in full on
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carnivore, things are clicking, things are going
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good. I'm down to my fighting weight again. I'm
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right where I'm supposed to be. Then you add
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those terrible ingredients, it'll actually can
00:29:51.660 --> 00:29:54.339
make me sick. It'll hurt my stomach because my
00:29:54.339 --> 00:29:55.660
stomach's like, what are you doing? You've been
00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.980
doing so good. And so as Christians, we do need
00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:04.680
to be mindful because so much of what we eat,
00:30:04.900 --> 00:30:07.460
we're addicted to. Let's just start with sugar.
00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:10.950
Man, it's as addictive as cocaine. You've heard
00:30:10.950 --> 00:30:14.390
that cliche thrown around. Oreos are as addictive
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as cocaine. And the reason why we salivate when
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we name these foods off is because we're addicted
00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:23.329
to them. Here, listen to this. I have it still.
00:30:23.589 --> 00:30:27.809
Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. That's
00:30:27.809 --> 00:30:31.069
true. Actual news report. It's actually true.
00:30:31.289 --> 00:30:35.390
There is verifiable documentation on this. So
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yes, as believers, I went there a little bit
00:30:39.380 --> 00:30:41.519
on Sunday just talking a little about the carnivore
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space. I had so many people come to me after
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church and they said, pastor, I'm glad you said
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.000
that. I really want to get going again. I did
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.559
it and then I did not and I feel terrible. I
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.480
want to, I want to feel better again. So I'm
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.720
counseling and kind of coaching some guys through
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that, a couple of guys and then others who've
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asked about it. So yeah, stewardship of what
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God has given us. I mean, Forget your refrigerator.
00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:08.740
Forget that we're talking about food. Forget
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big food industry. It's just this. It goes back
00:31:12.299 --> 00:31:17.799
to a spiritual issue. Am I willing to choose
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.920
obedience over impulse? And much of what we do
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.299
in eating is impulse. We're bored. It's your
00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:28.000
brain. It's your brain. We're watching a Netflix
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.359
series, right? What do we do? I need something.
00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:31.680
I need something. You're doom scrolling. You're
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.059
doom scrolling. I need something. It's addiction.
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.200
There's one other clip, just this last one, just
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because you were talking about our food industry,
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big food. And I love that 60 Minutes did this.
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.460
I'm pretty sure not as many people were exposed
00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:48.579
to 60 Minutes. You know, that should be because
00:31:48.579 --> 00:31:50.680
let's face it, we got all kinds of stuff going
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:55.920
on in our newsfeed. This I guess I kind of understood
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.759
or knew about, but I was surprised to hear about
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:03.640
our food. We met with food author Michael Pollan,
00:32:04.180 --> 00:32:07.059
who for decades has been warning about inexpensive
00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:10.680
factory -processed food. Granola bars, those
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look very healthy. All of these would qualify
00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:15.079
as ultra -processed foods, even though they're
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.119
very different. This, you know, we have a snack
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.779
food, a couple snack foods. Nature Valley? I
00:32:19.779 --> 00:32:22.819
would argue because of the number of ingredients
00:32:22.819 --> 00:32:25.880
in it. So there's a lot of sugar in here. This
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.720
is sold as... Yeah, health food. Paulin commends
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.420
Kennedy for shining a light on ultra -processed
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foods. He ties their ubiquity to long -standing
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.180
federal farm subsidies. Check this out. We subsidize,
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.339
as taxpayers, through the farm bill, the least
00:32:43.339 --> 00:32:46.099
healthy calories in the diet, most of which goes
00:32:46.099 --> 00:32:49.819
to people farming corn and soybeans. What's wrong
00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:52.380
with corn and soybeans? When you hear corn and
00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:54.759
soy, you think food. This is not corn on the
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.059
cob. This is commodity corn. It's not the sweet
00:32:58.059 --> 00:33:00.339
corn we eat in the summer? No, you can't eat
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it, in fact. It's all starch. Big cobs, you'd
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.779
break your teeth on it. And then soy, which is
00:33:06.779 --> 00:33:10.039
not in the form we grow it as a commodity, is
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.660
not edamame. You can't eat it. These are raw
00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:16.779
ingredients for processed foods and animal feed.
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.440
So the government is subsidizing crops that are
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:25.420
making us unselfish. Yes, yeah. But in one way
00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:27.859
to look at it is we are supporting both sides
00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:32.339
in the war on type 2 diabetes We are we're subsidizing
00:33:32.339 --> 00:33:34.460
the high fructose corn syrup That's contributing
00:33:34.460 --> 00:33:37.539
to causing it and then we're paying for the health
00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:40.819
care costs. I mean it makes no sense at all Well,
00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:43.599
there you go. I didn't know that you couldn't
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.799
eat the corn or the soybeans that are being grown.
00:33:45.940 --> 00:33:48.359
I had no idea. One of the reasons, and I started
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.180
down this as we were getting closer to 60, we
00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.259
started with keto, the ketogenic diet. And that's
00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:56.539
a clean, clean food diet, as clean as you can
00:33:56.539 --> 00:33:59.279
get, right? You do that and you're, again, meat
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.859
heavy, protein heavy, but you're lower carb.
00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:05.880
So that's the, it's sort of a great step in if
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.500
you're wanting to do something. So that's what
00:34:07.500 --> 00:34:10.119
we did for five years. That's when we began to
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.059
study and learn some of these things and realize
00:34:12.059 --> 00:34:15.219
how bad our food supply had gotten. Our doctor
00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:17.559
who was very versed in nutrition, Marcy, you
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.860
know Marcy. We were going to be traveling to
00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:23.139
Paris in 2019. She said, oh, I've got good news.
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.000
She knew we were doing ketogenic. In fact, she
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.139
was doing it at the time as well. Our own doctor
00:34:27.139 --> 00:34:29.780
was doing it and she was losing weight. She looked
00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:34.659
amazing. She had energy. She loved it. So we
00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:37.360
did it and we saw the same result. She said,
00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:40.679
Oh, if you're going to Paris, you can eat the
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.820
food there. Yeah, you can eat the bread. She
00:34:42.820 --> 00:34:47.139
said, enjoy the food. She said, it's clean. They
00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:50.699
don't have all exactly what they said. 400 ingredients
00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:54.139
there compared to 4 ,000 plus here. She said,
00:34:54.219 --> 00:34:57.360
it's good food. So we went to Paris. We were
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.980
there for 10 days. We walked. We on purpose walked
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:05.380
everywhere. We walked the city. 88 miles is what
00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:09.329
we logged. on our trackers that week, 88 miles
00:35:09.329 --> 00:35:13.909
walked. We ate everything and we had fun and
00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:17.409
we enjoyed it. And we lost weight. Now, did you
00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:19.650
lose weight because you walked 88 miles? We were
00:35:19.650 --> 00:35:21.510
used to, we were used to paddling. I mean, it's
00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:24.090
not a big deal for us. We work out, we're active.
00:35:24.789 --> 00:35:29.550
So, or because the food was legit there. It's
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:32.469
the same in Italy. It's exactly the same. Now,
00:35:32.539 --> 00:35:34.599
They do have other problems in these countries.
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.760
Of course. This is one area that I'm happy about.
00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:39.659
Very other big... And I hear that it's getting
00:35:39.659 --> 00:35:41.500
worse though. I hear that... It's not getting
00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.800
better. Because the economy and it's easier to
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.780
produce these ultra processed foods, it's cheaper.
00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:49.619
And they go further, but sadly they're destroying
00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:52.519
people's health. So do you... It's like the old...
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.619
SDP commercial, you want to pay me now or do
00:35:54.619 --> 00:35:57.059
you want to pay me later? And that is why we
00:35:57.059 --> 00:36:00.039
got into this space. We all got viscosity breakdown,
00:36:00.699 --> 00:36:04.699
man. For sure. Badly. So that's why we got into
00:36:04.699 --> 00:36:07.579
it initially is like we wanted to run through
00:36:07.579 --> 00:36:09.639
the tape because again, being a pastor, I've
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.340
buried so many people before their time. People
00:36:12.340 --> 00:36:15.420
that I knew could have had a full long life and
00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:18.230
they didn't take care of themselves. People that
00:36:18.230 --> 00:36:20.929
were type 2 diabetics drinking, you know, you
00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:24.070
know 44 ounce big gulp. Yeah, dr. Pepper. It's
00:36:24.070 --> 00:36:29.349
not helping. Yeah. Yeah You brought a clip I
00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:32.309
did. Yeah Let me set it up though. Yeah, please
00:36:32.309 --> 00:36:35.210
do that. So that's why I'm handing it I appreciate
00:36:35.210 --> 00:36:39.050
nice segue. So I appreciate it on Sunday I preach
00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:42.849
part two of a message called reborn Ned and I
00:36:42.849 --> 00:36:44.909
have been talking and we realized, gosh, we throw
00:36:44.909 --> 00:36:46.570
a lot of terms around in the Christian world,
00:36:46.829 --> 00:36:50.769
right? Being saved, being lost, you need to get
00:36:50.769 --> 00:36:55.250
born again, you hear these terms. And as we were
00:36:55.250 --> 00:36:57.010
talking about one day, we were both saying, you
00:36:57.010 --> 00:36:58.869
know, most people don't even know what that means.
00:36:59.070 --> 00:37:00.969
Yeah, people have come from Catholic backgrounds,
00:37:01.769 --> 00:37:03.869
Lutheran, other denominations that don't even
00:37:03.869 --> 00:37:06.710
really use that language or lingo, or maybe don't
00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:09.090
even have that theological bent or that theological
00:37:09.090 --> 00:37:12.579
piece in their theology. So I just said, I'm
00:37:12.579 --> 00:37:14.900
going to do a re -series. They're going to be
00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:18.900
all re -words, re -born, re -do, re -vives, all
00:37:18.900 --> 00:37:21.800
that. So I just started with re -born and I put
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.480
together a sermon. I stepped into the pulpit.
00:37:24.780 --> 00:37:27.500
I got one point of three points done. Barely
00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:29.239
scratched the surface. Barely got the first one
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.679
out, the first service. I said, this will be
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.940
a two -parter. Then last week I said, this will
00:37:32.940 --> 00:37:35.960
be a three -parter. It may even keep going. But
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.920
I talked about Nicodemus having this encounter
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.699
with Jesus. I used a clip from The Chosen to
00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:46.000
demonstrate where Mary says, she's explaining
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.659
to Nicodemus because he saw her possessed. He
00:37:48.659 --> 00:37:50.800
tried to cast the demons out of her. She had
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.579
seven. Couldn't. And the demons in her looked
00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:56.199
at him and said, you have no power here. Right.
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.179
Boy just rocked his world. Then he sees her in
00:37:59.179 --> 00:38:03.960
the marketplace and she's whole, clean, radiant.
00:38:04.219 --> 00:38:06.480
And he runs up to her and says, what happened
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:10.139
to you? How did it work? And she said, oh no.
00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:13.219
And she's explained. She said, there was a man.
00:38:13.699 --> 00:38:16.179
She said, I don't even understand it myself.
00:38:16.809 --> 00:38:21.210
But I'll tell you this, I was this way and now
00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:25.909
I'm different and in between was him." So Nicodemus
00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:28.650
starts going, who is him? Who are you talking
00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:32.349
about? And she tells him it was Jesus. Well that
00:38:32.349 --> 00:38:34.369
started Nicodemus on a search. Now that's in
00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:36.389
the movie The Chosen, plausibility of course,
00:38:36.570 --> 00:38:39.710
not detailed in Scripture to that degree. But
00:38:39.710 --> 00:38:43.230
in Scripture is detailed more the encounter between
00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:46.150
Nicodemus and Jesus. Nicodemus seeks him out.
00:38:46.059 --> 00:38:48.159
Nicodemus is a part of the Sanhedrin, that's
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.920
the 70, the council that rules Jerusalem. And
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.340
he is also a teacher of teacher. Jesus even calls
00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:57.860
him a teacher of Israel. High, high ranking Pharisees,
00:38:57.940 --> 00:39:01.280
a brilliant man, scholar, and him and Jesus sit
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.340
down for a meeting and they go back and forth.
00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:06.780
And Jesus tells him, are you a teacher of Israel
00:39:06.780 --> 00:39:09.219
and you don't even understand these things? And
00:39:09.219 --> 00:39:12.460
he says, this is why I tell you, John 3 .3, you
00:39:12.460 --> 00:39:15.170
must be born again. So that's the reborn thing.
00:39:15.389 --> 00:39:19.449
So I broke that all down. And wow, people were
00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:22.909
like all in. And I just went all Southern Baptist
00:39:22.909 --> 00:39:27.190
on my roots. You know that that one scene in
00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:30.230
The Chosen, it was after I saw that scene when
00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:32.949
I said to Tina, I'm ready to be baptized. Wow,
00:39:33.070 --> 00:39:35.570
forgot about that. That's right. We were in bed
00:39:35.570 --> 00:39:37.909
that night. I'm like... I'm ready now. I've seen
00:39:37.909 --> 00:39:40.750
it. That very scene on the rooftop. That scene
00:39:40.750 --> 00:39:42.969
was brilliant because that was actually very
00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:46.170
close to scripture. He doesn't quote John 3,
00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:49.289
he's saying John 3 .16 as just saying it. And
00:39:49.289 --> 00:39:50.889
then it gets quoted because John's over there
00:39:50.889 --> 00:39:52.650
writing down fiercely offensive. Down the bottom
00:39:52.650 --> 00:39:54.210
in the dark. Yeah, I remember that. He's writing
00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:56.530
down these things down. So it was a great scene
00:39:56.530 --> 00:39:58.750
there. So yeah, I forgot that that was what prompted
00:39:58.750 --> 00:40:03.079
you to take the plunge. So, I broke all that
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.679
down and really just came to this point of helping
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.880
people understand that you must be born again.
00:40:09.619 --> 00:40:12.199
We've got to be born again. What was your original
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.300
question? You're setting up the clip. There it
00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:17.199
is, the clip. Thank you. Neither of us is going
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.719
somewhere with that. So, I decided instead of
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.960
fumble around, I'd just ask. Being honest is
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.019
good, man. Save some time. All right, because
00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:28.039
I got off preaching. So, here it is. So I found
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.940
this clip by Josh Howerton. Of course, he was
00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:32.099
on the Sean Ryan show, did a three hour interview
00:40:32.099 --> 00:40:35.960
with Sean. And it was power. We watched all three
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.239
hours. Yeah, I heard it actually. It was powerful.
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:43.940
And Josh just, man, 44 years old, handled himself.
00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:47.179
And Sean was great. You know, Sean was in. I
00:40:47.179 --> 00:40:50.199
mean, he was, but he asked good questions. Sean
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.900
is searching. I mean, he has been searching for
00:40:52.900 --> 00:40:55.219
a long time. He does say he's a believer. He's
00:40:55.219 --> 00:40:57.659
a Christian. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But he was asking
00:40:57.659 --> 00:40:59.860
the hard questions, the questions that most people
00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:03.739
are asking, Sean was asking. And so towards the
00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:06.820
end of it, they're getting down to it. And then
00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:09.900
Sean asked the question, why did Jesus have to
00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:13.380
die? Like a real core question of our belief.
00:41:14.179 --> 00:41:17.219
And I love the way Josh Howerton, Pastor Josh,
00:41:17.219 --> 00:41:19.900
handled it. He said, I'm glad you asked. That's
00:41:19.900 --> 00:41:23.360
one of my favorite questions to answer. He said,
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.869
but I'm going to answer it with a story. So he
00:41:25.869 --> 00:41:28.349
tells the story why did Jesus have to die on
00:41:28.349 --> 00:41:33.269
the cross? Yeah, why did he have to do it? I'm
00:41:33.269 --> 00:41:37.610
missing his God's son. He's God's only son. Why
00:41:37.610 --> 00:41:40.389
didn't God make another son? Mm -hmm. We got
00:41:40.389 --> 00:41:42.429
a lot of questions there. I mean, I just don't
00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:47.809
it's I Don't fully understand why it had to happen
00:41:47.809 --> 00:41:52.829
if he is God Why couldn't you just forgive exactly?
00:41:52.929 --> 00:41:56.300
Yeah Man, that's like my favorite question to
00:41:56.300 --> 00:42:02.280
answer ever, all right? So, the Bible says that
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.059
God did it that way so that he could be both,
00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:07.639
let me say it and then explain it, so he could
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.619
be both just and the justifier of the ungodly,
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:16.280
all right? Just and justifier, all right? So,
00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:21.159
my favorite way to illustrate this is by a story,
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.510
okay? So best illustration of why Jesus had died
00:42:25.510 --> 00:42:28.570
on the cross I've ever heard. It goes like this,
00:42:28.590 --> 00:42:32.050
once upon a time in a far -off kingdom, there
00:42:32.050 --> 00:42:34.309
was a king who was known by everyone in the kingdom
00:42:34.309 --> 00:42:37.949
to be the most just and loving king who had ever
00:42:37.949 --> 00:42:41.289
lived. But then it was discovered that somebody
00:42:41.289 --> 00:42:43.949
was stealing from the king's treasury. And so
00:42:43.949 --> 00:42:46.769
the king, being a just king, he sent out an edict.
00:42:47.019 --> 00:42:48.920
that whenever it was discovered who was stealing
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.360
from the king's treasury, that that person would
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.119
receive 10 lashes. Well, the theft continued,
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.059
and so he issued another decree. When it's discovered
00:42:58.059 --> 00:42:59.960
who's stealing from the king's treasury, it'll
00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:03.139
be 20 lashes. The theft continued, 30 lashes,
00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:05.980
until finally the king issued a final decree,
00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:08.480
and he said, when it's discovered who's stealing
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.099
from the king's treasury, it will be a sentence
00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:13.900
of 40 lashes. Now, the problem with that was
00:43:13.900 --> 00:43:18.000
that 40 lashes was a death sentence. And so the
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.860
theft continued until eventually it was discovered
00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:24.800
that none other than the king's daughter was
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.820
the one who was stealing from the treasury. So
00:43:27.820 --> 00:43:30.639
then a question began to ripple through the kingdom.
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.920
What will the king do? Some thought he would
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.860
forgive her, but then how would he be just? Some
00:43:37.860 --> 00:43:40.519
thought that he would issue the sentence, but
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:44.099
then how would he be loving? Well, it was decided.
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.280
The king sat down and decided, you know what?
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.179
The sentence is just, the punishment must fall,
00:43:50.619 --> 00:43:53.679
and so the decree stands." And so one day the
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.739
entire kingdom was gathered, and in front of
00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:58.659
everybody the king's own daughter was marched
00:43:58.659 --> 00:44:01.760
up to the podium, in front of the entire kingdom,
00:44:02.019 --> 00:44:05.219
and she was bent over the podium, and the back
00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:08.400
of her shirt was ripped open, and the executioner
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.119
stood there, and he began to raise his whip to
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.440
land the first slash, and as soon as he did,
00:44:15.619 --> 00:44:19.670
the king yelled, Stop. And there was a silence
00:44:19.670 --> 00:44:23.510
that fell. And the king strode forward, and he
00:44:23.510 --> 00:44:26.769
took off his own shirt, and he bent over, and
00:44:26.769 --> 00:44:28.869
he wrapped his body around his own daughter,
00:44:29.429 --> 00:44:31.369
and looked back up over his shoulder, and he
00:44:31.369 --> 00:44:36.230
said, Now, hit her. And the executioner objected,
00:44:36.250 --> 00:44:39.050
and he said, But, King, those lashes, they'll
00:44:39.050 --> 00:44:42.530
fall on you. And he said, The sentence must stand.
00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:47.889
It's just, hit her. And so 40 lashes fell on
00:44:47.889 --> 00:44:51.010
the body of the king that protected the body
00:44:51.010 --> 00:44:54.650
of his daughter, and the king died in the stead
00:44:54.650 --> 00:44:57.150
of his daughter. And what happened, Sean, in
00:44:57.150 --> 00:45:00.710
that story, is the king was both just because
00:45:00.710 --> 00:45:03.849
payment for the sin had to be made, and the king
00:45:03.849 --> 00:45:08.489
was the justifier of the ungodly. She went free
00:45:08.489 --> 00:45:11.570
because he took the penalty. See, the reason
00:45:11.570 --> 00:45:14.510
Jesus had to die on the cross is because God
00:45:14.510 --> 00:45:17.960
is just. So payment for sin has to be made like
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.940
if somebody walked into a courtroom and A judge
00:45:21.940 --> 00:45:24.679
just went you know what man you raped that girl
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.000
when she was young But you're real sorry, and
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.519
I have the power to do it. You're forgiven Nobody
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:36.719
would think that was a just judge So penalty
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:41.300
for sin had to be made But God is love so he
00:45:41.300 --> 00:45:44.670
made the payment himself That's what the Bible
00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:46.829
means when it says for the wages of sin is death
00:45:46.829 --> 00:45:49.050
But the free gift of God is eternal life through
00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:53.570
Jesus Christ our Lord. Okay? So it's a substitutionary
00:45:53.570 --> 00:45:58.510
Sacrifice in my place condemned he stood Wow
00:45:58.510 --> 00:46:02.610
It's a great explanation that makes sense makes
00:46:02.610 --> 00:46:06.829
perfect sense That's a good story. That is I
00:46:06.829 --> 00:46:09.530
had never heard that analogy before what was
00:46:09.530 --> 00:46:11.949
so remarkable is that he did that off the cuff
00:46:12.110 --> 00:46:17.389
I mean, no notes, just, this is how I understand
00:46:17.389 --> 00:46:22.489
it. And I looked out across, both services were
00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:25.090
packed this Sunday. It was just to the rafters.
00:46:25.150 --> 00:46:27.849
And I was looking out, was watching people's
00:46:27.849 --> 00:46:29.969
response during the story. You could have heard
00:46:29.969 --> 00:46:33.469
a pin drop by the time he got to the punchline
00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:38.030
and the king died. And literally, there were
00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:40.429
people weeping all over the worship center in
00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:42.969
both services. I was blown away. Of course, when
00:46:42.969 --> 00:46:45.369
I saw them crying, well, man, it's like... Did
00:46:45.369 --> 00:46:46.849
you tell the story or did you play the clip?
00:46:46.869 --> 00:46:49.989
No, I played the clip. I played the video clip,
00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:54.349
so they got to see the dynamic there. And man,
00:46:54.789 --> 00:46:59.510
it landed strong. And of course, I just use that
00:46:59.510 --> 00:47:01.610
as a leaping off point to share the good news
00:47:01.610 --> 00:47:06.230
of Jesus Christ, the message, the gospel. and
00:47:06.230 --> 00:47:09.449
hands everywhere. And I called for two things,
00:47:09.849 --> 00:47:13.670
to be reborn for the first time and to re -up.
00:47:14.789 --> 00:47:18.070
Re -up. Oh, re -up is good. It's a military ceremony
00:47:18.070 --> 00:47:20.750
when the guys will re -up their term. I went
00:47:20.750 --> 00:47:23.630
to many of those ceremonies in Abilene at Dias
00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:26.190
Air Force Base, re -up ceremonies where they
00:47:26.190 --> 00:47:28.849
would re -up their time. And so I said, you can
00:47:28.849 --> 00:47:31.349
either re -up or you'd be reborn. Who am I talking
00:47:31.349 --> 00:47:33.710
to? Let me see your hand. Don't be ashamed. Man,
00:47:33.710 --> 00:47:37.570
hands just everywhere. I'll bet. It was so powerful.
00:47:37.849 --> 00:47:41.829
And what I'm seeing is that because as the world
00:47:41.829 --> 00:47:46.230
grows darker, the light shines brighter. And
00:47:46.230 --> 00:47:48.369
there's a biblical scripture for that. It says,
00:47:48.489 --> 00:47:52.130
where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more.
00:47:52.610 --> 00:47:55.210
So the darker the sin gets in the world, the
00:47:55.210 --> 00:47:58.070
darker the world gets, the brighter grace shines.
00:47:58.070 --> 00:48:03.010
Yes. The good news. People are hungry right now.
00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:06.550
I've never in my entire four decades of doing
00:48:06.550 --> 00:48:09.769
this I've never seen more spiritual hunger that
00:48:09.769 --> 00:48:12.309
I'm seeing right now So when I see stuff that's
00:48:12.309 --> 00:48:15.269
dumpster fire, you know worthy in news feeds
00:48:15.269 --> 00:48:18.150
and stuff I'm just going all this is doing even
00:48:18.150 --> 00:48:21.170
though it's hair on fire and craziness people
00:48:21.170 --> 00:48:24.030
are saying I need something bigger than me now.
00:48:24.190 --> 00:48:26.289
Oh, everybody's tried everything. None of it
00:48:26.289 --> 00:48:28.750
works. Right. That's why Jesus is trending. That's
00:48:28.750 --> 00:48:30.190
what I keep telling everybody. Isn't that wild?
00:48:30.690 --> 00:48:33.469
And yet it's the most persecuted people group,
00:48:34.289 --> 00:48:37.230
along with the Jewish people. I mean, it's crazy.
00:48:37.429 --> 00:48:40.869
So let's just look at what's happening in culture.
00:48:41.349 --> 00:48:45.929
And I love that example that Josh Howerton gave
00:48:45.929 --> 00:48:49.250
of a courtroom today, because this question was
00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:56.349
almost literally posed to Francis Gill. Can I
00:48:56.349 --> 00:48:58.329
give the scripture for this? Please. There's
00:48:58.329 --> 00:49:01.289
actually a scripture that says that. It's actually
00:49:01.289 --> 00:49:04.829
Romans 3 .26. It says, it was to show, this is
00:49:04.829 --> 00:49:07.190
the scripture, it was to show his righteousness
00:49:07.190 --> 00:49:09.550
at the present time, Christ's righteousness,
00:49:10.010 --> 00:49:13.690
so that he might be just and the justifier of
00:49:13.690 --> 00:49:16.780
the one who has faith in him. So the one who
00:49:16.780 --> 00:49:19.519
has faith in Christ is the one whom Christ wraps
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.440
his body around and takes the punishment. So
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.920
I just want to land that before you segue. That's
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:31.059
good because there's some darkness out there.
00:49:32.139 --> 00:49:34.960
And I want to put it into context, but just because
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.320
that clip ended with that courtroom scenario,
00:49:38.019 --> 00:49:44.579
this is one of the winners of the primaries for
00:49:44.579 --> 00:49:47.039
the Democratic Party. As you know, there's been
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.400
a lot of Democrats, socialists of America, or
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:55.980
whether they're card carrying or not, so extremely
00:49:55.980 --> 00:50:00.769
liberal left. that the mainstream democrat party
00:50:00.769 --> 00:50:03.070
is kind of in disarray because of what they're
00:50:03.070 --> 00:50:07.030
saying. And this I think was on NBC. Listen to
00:50:07.030 --> 00:50:08.889
this. Right. There are plenty of people who point
00:50:08.889 --> 00:50:11.250
to some very controversial positions that DSA
00:50:11.250 --> 00:50:14.750
takes. Let's talk about some of them. Your policy
00:50:14.750 --> 00:50:17.449
agenda on law enforcement is to defund police,
00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:19.570
ultimately to get rid of police departments.
00:50:19.829 --> 00:50:22.400
Correct? Well, what I would say is that we're
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.000
dramatically overspending on police right now.
00:50:25.219 --> 00:50:27.219
I understand. The goal is to defund the police
00:50:27.219 --> 00:50:29.300
department so we don't need them in the future.
00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:32.599
I think what we really want to see is a horizon
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.980
where folks are not reliant on armed enforcement
00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:38.539
to meet our public safety needs. Right, but it
00:50:38.539 --> 00:50:41.300
says defund police on the website. That's your
00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:44.619
goal. And also to get rid of prisons and jails,
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.360
correct? Yes. So if my daughter is assaulted
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.460
and raped, is there any agency that would seek
00:50:51.460 --> 00:50:56.179
to find her assailant and bring him to justice?
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.639
Of course, yeah, of course. What would it be
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.599
if not police and where would he be if not a
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.380
jail? So, I guess I really want to avoid getting
00:51:05.380 --> 00:51:07.980
kind of caught into these hypotheticals and talk
00:51:07.980 --> 00:51:09.940
more about the reality that we're actually facing
00:51:09.940 --> 00:51:13.119
right now, which is that we're spending absolutely
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:16.139
outrageous amounts of money on police and policing
00:51:16.139 --> 00:51:18.239
and we're not spending money on things that actually
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.920
make people safe and feel safe, which is things
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.559
like actually well -lit streets. The streetlights
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:25.320
in Los Angeles, everybody agrees it's a huge
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:29.050
problem. Things like mental health care and substance
00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:31.849
use, substance use treatment. So things that
00:51:31.849 --> 00:51:35.449
drive people to commit crimes and to that make
00:51:35.449 --> 00:51:37.829
our society less safe. We're not doing anything
00:51:37.829 --> 00:51:40.190
about the root causes. And instead we're funneling
00:51:40.190 --> 00:51:45.849
money into the into the police. So what you're
00:51:45.849 --> 00:51:49.409
what you're hearing here is actually populism
00:51:49.409 --> 00:51:54.170
to an incredible degree. And I looked up all
00:51:54.170 --> 00:51:58.539
the numbers. When you have a primary, it's interesting
00:51:58.539 --> 00:52:01.159
how few people actually come out to vote in a
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.360
primary. But the way that is played on mainly
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:09.039
Instagram and Axis, oh my God, another socialist
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:15.400
one. And sometimes like, did anyone get civics
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.789
in high school? Did anybody learn anything? And
00:52:19.789 --> 00:52:22.489
it's so easy just to get sucked into, oh, wow,
00:52:22.869 --> 00:52:26.250
they're taking over. It's all happening. They're
00:52:26.250 --> 00:52:29.949
winning. Well, these are primaries. And I think
00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:33.329
the same woman here, Gil, I think she actually,
00:52:34.309 --> 00:52:37.070
she was asked a question about who was really
00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:38.831
voting for them in the primaries. She didn't.
00:52:38.829 --> 00:52:40.710
It wasn't asked that way, but it kind of got
00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:43.070
answered that way. Have a listen. Abdul al -Sayed's
00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:45.070
victory. This is the guy that everyone's talking
00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:52.210
about in Michigan, who is well -educated. I think
00:52:52.210 --> 00:52:55.030
he's even a Rhodes scholar, which used to sound
00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:56.769
like a really good thing, but when you see who
00:52:56.769 --> 00:52:58.369
the Rhodes scholars really were, you're like,
00:52:58.650 --> 00:53:02.119
okay, I'm not so sure I like him. But he's got
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.360
a real big mouth. He's really mouthing off. Now,
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.559
he's still, he's only a candidate. You know,
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.420
he hasn't won anything. He's not the senator
00:53:08.420 --> 00:53:10.639
yet. You know, this has to be an actual election.
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.760
But when you hear who did and who didn't vote
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.019
for him in the primary of Democrats, it's only
00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:18.199
Democrats voting for these people, it gets interesting.
00:53:18.340 --> 00:53:21.139
Abdul Al Sayed's victory in the Democratic primary
00:53:21.139 --> 00:53:25.300
in the Senate in Michigan. Of the 15 counties
00:53:25.300 --> 00:53:28.119
where a majority do not have a college degree,
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:33.119
he lost every one of them, over 15. in the counties
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:38.659
with high education, like you, he won. So how
00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:41.820
can you say you're for the working class when
00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:44.840
working class counties in Detroit and elsewhere
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.579
voted against your candidate? I think what we're
00:53:47.579 --> 00:53:50.380
seeing is that people who are highly educated
00:53:50.380 --> 00:53:55.940
in this country were promised this path of Economic
00:53:55.940 --> 00:53:59.019
success, if you go to college, if you get the
00:53:59.019 --> 00:54:01.480
degree, if you go down that path, you're going
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.619
to be guaranteed economic success. But really
00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:05.679
what we're seeing is that there's this huge downward
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.119
mobility problem where people are putting in
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.119
the money, taking out hundreds of thousands of
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:12.519
dollars of student loans. I have a half a million
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.920
dollars in student loan debt personally. And
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.099
not seeing that translate into actual economic
00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:21.460
success because our society, the scales are so
00:54:21.460 --> 00:54:24.530
tipped in one direction to benefit. the rich
00:54:24.530 --> 00:54:27.989
and the wealthy. So this is what I mean by populism.
00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:32.190
She's right. There's an entire generation that
00:54:32.190 --> 00:54:35.789
was told, you go to school, you take out the
00:54:35.789 --> 00:54:37.969
loans, which it just, you're going to get the
00:54:37.969 --> 00:54:40.670
big job. You're going to get the big job. And
00:54:40.670 --> 00:54:44.750
unfortunately, two things happened. One, the
00:54:44.750 --> 00:54:46.949
debt that was created because they're government
00:54:46.949 --> 00:54:50.969
backed loans, which is just an amazing mistake
00:54:50.969 --> 00:54:55.829
on government's behalf. The other one is that
00:54:55.829 --> 00:54:58.230
the degrees they got would have been useless
00:54:58.230 --> 00:55:02.130
in any time. So, you know, gender studies, et
00:55:02.130 --> 00:55:05.369
cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I saw it with
00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:09.210
their own girls. They got into these woke universities
00:55:09.210 --> 00:55:13.769
and it's like, no, not necessarily really a useful
00:55:13.769 --> 00:55:17.650
degree that you have there. So they're not really
00:55:17.650 --> 00:55:21.809
concerned about anybody than themselves. And
00:55:21.809 --> 00:55:24.599
I'm not saying that it's It sucks because it
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.760
does. They really got gypped, if I can just use
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.820
that word. But at the same time, there's seven
00:55:30.820 --> 00:55:34.179
million jobs available to people who don't even,
00:55:34.179 --> 00:55:37.599
you don't need to have a degree. And these are
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.900
jobs who will pay up to $175, $200 ,000 a year.
00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:43.440
Oh, if you know how to turn a wrench. If you're
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.199
willing to learn how to turn a wrench. Right,
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.849
yes. There is so much, and that's... The real
00:55:48.849 --> 00:55:51.909
message, I'm sorry, but we have to, hey, I might
00:55:51.909 --> 00:55:54.070
have to go learn to how to turn a wrench, you
00:55:54.070 --> 00:56:00.130
know, but the jobs are there. And all of these
00:56:00.130 --> 00:56:03.170
Democrat socialists of America, yeah, you can
00:56:03.170 --> 00:56:06.210
motivate highly educated people through online
00:56:06.210 --> 00:56:09.190
campaigns to come in and vote for someone in
00:56:09.190 --> 00:56:12.530
a primary because the turnout is incredibly low,
00:56:12.909 --> 00:56:15.530
really low. And it's mainly highly educated.
00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:19.719
white girls, to be fair about it, who are voting
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.440
these candidates in for their party. I do not
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.960
think that in a general election, if people actually
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:31.059
go out and vote, which we have to do, I don't
00:56:31.059 --> 00:56:35.659
think they stand a chance at all. And they really
00:56:35.659 --> 00:56:39.679
only care about everything against Trump. That's
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:44.320
their entire platform. It's abolish ICE, abolish
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:51.409
the Senate, Seriously, which is laughable, abolish
00:56:51.409 --> 00:56:55.010
or defund the police, get rid of jails. Open
00:56:55.010 --> 00:56:57.510
the borders again. Literally open the borders
00:56:57.510 --> 00:57:00.250
under the guise of protect our communities. These
00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:04.130
people cannot be taken seriously. But we have
00:57:04.130 --> 00:57:07.869
to be careful because I already see like a defeatist
00:57:07.869 --> 00:57:10.869
attitude. And that's just, that's just people.
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:15.039
Miss understanding or misrecognizing that they
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.659
didn't win anything yet. They want a primary.
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.579
That's a good point. Adam. Cause I heard Jack
00:57:20.579 --> 00:57:25.699
Hibbs say, you know, only 23 % you know, in,
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:29.519
in California now identify as Republican. Don't
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:31.940
worry got that was a bubbling or Christian. I
00:57:31.940 --> 00:57:33.599
thought he said Christian thing was Christian
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.719
So he said basically so it's over for us I mean
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.739
he literally had a complete fatalistic statement,
00:57:39.739 --> 00:57:42.199
which I absolutely disagree with I mean, I'm
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.820
like even Annette was like man. He's just robbing
00:57:44.820 --> 00:57:46.800
people He's basically tell them it doesn't do
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.840
you any good to go vote, right? Man, I That stuff
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.139
gets all over me real quick and you know, I like
00:57:54.139 --> 00:57:56.320
Jack Hibbs from a distance and all of us I've
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.349
liked but man just this alarmist, defeatist,
00:57:59.510 --> 00:58:03.230
fatalistic thinking, that's not even the core
00:58:03.230 --> 00:58:06.269
of Christianity, where it's all about hope. Faith,
00:58:06.269 --> 00:58:09.010
hope, and love. These three remain greatest is
00:58:09.010 --> 00:58:11.110
love. But faith and hope, man, you don't have
00:58:11.110 --> 00:58:13.030
love without faith and hope. They all work together.
00:58:13.130 --> 00:58:15.670
And pray, vote, and multiply. Absolutely. This
00:58:15.670 --> 00:58:18.090
is what we got to do. Get busy. Get busy, young
00:58:18.090 --> 00:58:22.570
man. So to kind of wrap this up, there's a study
00:58:22.570 --> 00:58:24.650
came out of Wharton School of the University
00:58:24.650 --> 00:58:31.260
of Pennsylvania. And it plays into this. Let
00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:33.460
me see where it is here. The study was called
00:58:33.460 --> 00:58:38.340
Thinking Fast, Slow, and Artificial. And the
00:58:38.340 --> 00:58:44.380
researchers, they took over 1 ,000 people and
00:58:44.380 --> 00:58:47.760
they asked some people to solve certain questions
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:53.079
without an AI chatbot, some to use only an AI
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.139
chatbot, and some to use you know, to just refer
00:58:56.139 --> 00:58:59.579
to it if they felt like it was necessary. Well,
00:58:59.579 --> 00:59:01.639
you'd be amazed that the people who just kind
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.599
of referred to it once in a while didn't do so
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:09.099
well. And the reason is something they call cognitive
00:59:09.099 --> 00:59:12.159
surrender. And I actually heard about the survey
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.699
on a pastor's podcast. I forget what it was.
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.760
I'll have to look that up. And he was talking
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:21.179
about pastors doing their sermons with AI. And
00:59:21.179 --> 00:59:25.960
the big problem is that when people are using
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.800
chatbots, robots, AI, whatever you want to call
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:33.280
it, when the AI is wrong, people still follow
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:38.960
their advice 80 % of the time. And so if you
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.360
don't know what the outcome is, a chatbot, if
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.000
you don't know what the answer is supposed to
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.659
be, a chatbot is not going to be your friend.
00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:49.920
Agreed. So this happened last night in reverse
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.219
with me. Tina's scrolling Instagram. She says,
00:59:53.389 --> 00:59:59.730
Oh, my. The owner of Royal Blue Grocers was killed.
01:00:00.849 --> 01:00:03.309
Now, Royal Blue Grocers is very famous in Austin.
01:00:03.469 --> 01:00:07.489
They have small little grocery stores. If you're
01:00:07.489 --> 01:00:09.929
an Austinite, you love them. They're expensive.
01:00:09.929 --> 01:00:12.170
Neighborhood grocery stores. But they're very,
01:00:12.170 --> 01:00:15.949
very famous. I'm like, oh, wow. So I go, look,
01:00:15.969 --> 01:00:18.789
I can't find anything on regular searches. I
01:00:18.789 --> 01:00:21.170
go to Gemini and I say, OK, here's what's going
01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:24.769
on. No. This is an online hoax. And I'm saying
01:00:24.769 --> 01:00:28.070
to Tina, it's like, I mean, where are you getting
01:00:28.070 --> 01:00:29.949
this? She says, it's on Instagram. Well, of course,
01:00:29.949 --> 01:00:33.530
I'm always like, okay. But then she says, go
01:00:33.530 --> 01:00:36.449
take a look. And there it is, the official Royal
01:00:36.449 --> 01:00:40.590
Blue Grocers Instagram account. Now, it didn't
01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:42.670
say kill. This was a little interesting thing.
01:00:42.909 --> 01:00:48.750
He said he died suddenly and, gosh, I should
01:00:48.750 --> 01:00:53.619
have written it down. Like like a real quick
01:00:53.619 --> 01:00:56.500
sudden Goodness, I should yeah, that's different
01:00:56.500 --> 01:00:59.059
than being killed No, well and and that's just
01:00:59.059 --> 01:01:01.960
that's easy to misread, you know, that's sure
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:05.500
I'm not blaming Tina for it. Let me just I want
01:01:05.500 --> 01:01:11.440
to make sure here it is Here it is George Scariano
01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.639
junior father husband son brother and friend
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.440
died suddenly and tragically on Thursday, August
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:19.639
6 so I understand where she might have in her
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.860
brains had killed, depending on whatever she'd
01:01:21.860 --> 01:01:24.820
just read before it. So that's okay. But I go
01:01:24.820 --> 01:01:27.059
to Gemini, I say, no, this happened. No, it didn't,
01:01:27.059 --> 01:01:29.139
because that would be in the news. I say, yep,
01:01:29.139 --> 01:01:32.079
but I'm seeing it on the Instagram post that
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.480
is from the grocery. And so I give it the link.
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.260
It says, well, that link doesn't mean anything
01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:41.360
to me. I said, take a screenshot. And the screenshot,
01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:42.860
and it says, well, that's just a screenshot.
01:01:43.019 --> 01:01:46.719
You've been hoaxed. That's an online fake. Yes,
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:51.250
I went through, I said, you are so convinced,
01:01:51.449 --> 01:01:55.349
you're so sure of yourself because, you know,
01:01:55.670 --> 01:01:58.130
a community leader like this, then I'm starting
01:01:58.130 --> 01:02:02.210
to think this probably was a suicide because
01:02:02.210 --> 01:02:04.469
they also had, you know, please give money to
01:02:04.469 --> 01:02:08.369
the mental health department of some hospital.
01:02:08.429 --> 01:02:12.750
And so then I say to the robot, well, have you
01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:14.869
considered this? Then all of a sudden it goes,
01:02:14.969 --> 01:02:18.099
you're right. I can, I'm completely. So the point
01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:20.760
is I fought with it just to fight with it. I
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:22.960
believe what Tino was saying. Cause you're just
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.260
pushing to see how far this will go. And it took
01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:28.000
me eight, nine turns with this thing to get it
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.739
there. So it's like, Jim and I, that's been,
01:02:31.739 --> 01:02:33.780
I mean, it's one you've kind of like, but I,
01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:37.440
but I knew the outcome had to be something closer
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:41.409
to the truth. So I didn't give into cognitive
01:02:41.409 --> 01:02:43.989
surrender. Good. But when you give into cognitive
01:02:43.989 --> 01:02:47.570
surrender, this is where you start to lose the
01:02:47.570 --> 01:02:51.489
plot. And I believe that this is starting to
01:02:51.489 --> 01:02:54.269
seep into our brains with all kinds of news.
01:02:54.269 --> 01:02:59.210
Totally agree. And the most recent one is, well,
01:02:59.489 --> 01:03:02.670
McKinney, Texas, they approved the mosque. I
01:03:02.670 --> 01:03:05.449
looked that up on Grok. What did you get from
01:03:05.449 --> 01:03:09.650
Grok? Grok said, It went into the Muslim Brotherhood
01:03:09.650 --> 01:03:13.130
100 -Year America Plan. What? And that they're
01:03:13.130 --> 01:03:15.750
50 years into their plan, according to sources.
01:03:16.329 --> 01:03:19.469
What about the mosque approval? Right. And on
01:03:19.469 --> 01:03:21.710
that one, they said the mosque was not, only
01:03:21.710 --> 01:03:24.409
the site work was approved. The mosque, actually,
01:03:24.650 --> 01:03:27.449
that's another. Exactly. But people showed up
01:03:27.449 --> 01:03:31.239
in hordes protesting that. But that that's not
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:33.679
even the mosque approval. It's just the site
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:37.280
work for the for the mosque. Potentially, I brought
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:40.139
a clip new overnight, a step forward for the
01:03:40.139 --> 01:03:42.639
proposed mosque in McKinney. The City Council
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:44.980
voted just before midnight to approve a site
01:03:44.980 --> 01:03:47.760
plan for that mosque. And Trevor Sahaki joins
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:50.599
us live from McKinney. Trevor, people who live
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.980
there kind of split on the issue. More than 100
01:03:52.980 --> 01:03:56.280
people gave public comment both for and against.
01:03:56.750 --> 01:03:59.590
Yeah, that's right, Madison. This vote on the
01:03:59.590 --> 01:04:02.429
moss came after more than five and a half hours
01:04:02.429 --> 01:04:05.010
of public comment. But in the end, all seven
01:04:05.010 --> 01:04:07.230
city council members voted unanimously to approve
01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:11.110
the site plan. This motion carries. I vote a
01:04:11.110 --> 01:04:15.360
seven in favor and a zero against. Now, city
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.780
council told residents the vote was procedural,
01:04:17.900 --> 01:04:19.840
saying they were just voting on whether the site
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:22.320
plan fits the city's ordinances. The proposed
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.440
property would sit near Virginia Parkway and
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.139
Crutcher Crossing. The McKinney Islamic Association
01:04:27.139 --> 01:04:29.420
says it wants to build a dedicated prayer area,
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.880
gym, classrooms, cafeteria, and a community space.
01:04:33.260 --> 01:04:35.039
The group wants to develop the new property to
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.480
accommodate the growing community. So you're
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:39.820
absolutely right, but this is the part that no
01:04:39.820 --> 01:04:43.710
one really except us, I guess. took the time
01:04:43.710 --> 01:04:51.530
to look up. So in 2024, the McKinney Islamic
01:04:51.530 --> 01:04:55.150
Society, I think they're called, came up with
01:04:55.150 --> 01:04:58.110
a plan and it was like a 40 ,000 square feet
01:04:58.110 --> 01:05:00.929
building. And no, that's not zoned for that.
01:05:00.969 --> 01:05:04.550
So no, they came back. Now it's You know, it's
01:05:04.550 --> 01:05:07.849
fifteen thousand and broken up in a smaller what
01:05:07.849 --> 01:05:10.730
they're doing They're fitting into the requirements
01:05:10.730 --> 01:05:13.389
right into the into the zoning requirement, which
01:05:13.389 --> 01:05:16.789
was not the zoning Requirement was not even done
01:05:16.789 --> 01:05:19.070
by the City Council. It was the previous City
01:05:19.070 --> 01:05:22.570
Council, right? So this is not a mosque has been
01:05:22.570 --> 01:05:24.909
approved and we all have to have our hair on
01:05:24.909 --> 01:05:27.730
fire There's plenty of opportunity for this not
01:05:27.730 --> 01:05:31.880
to take place but If you want to make a change
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.400
in your community, you got to get on the zoning
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.039
committee. You got to get a zoning board. You
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.059
can't just go to the meeting and complain or
01:05:40.059 --> 01:05:44.380
go onto IG and start topping out your fit. And
01:05:44.380 --> 01:05:46.880
that McKinney approved it. We're lost. Texas
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.920
is lost. So can I ask you a question? Because
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:51.920
you and I have gone around and around about this.
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:56.960
And is there a level? Yes, we know it's dumpster
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.719
fire stuff, hair on fire stuff. It's fear -mongering.
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:04.159
We're being taken over by Islam. They're working
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.239
the plan. It's plans are working. Is there a
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:09.820
level or a place, and where is that, where we
01:06:09.820 --> 01:06:12.900
should start to say, we need to get busy. We
01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:16.539
need to do something. Is there a point where
01:06:16.539 --> 01:06:20.789
we say, Yeah, is this mirroring Europe, but we're
01:06:20.789 --> 01:06:23.210
30 years behind, 50 years behind? Well, this
01:06:23.210 --> 01:06:25.050
is what we talked about on the last show. Yes,
01:06:25.570 --> 01:06:28.610
the time is now. It has been time. But not to
01:06:28.610 --> 01:06:30.489
sit around screaming on Instagram. Okay, I agree
01:06:30.489 --> 01:06:33.389
with that. So what do we do? Get into city council.
01:06:34.269 --> 01:06:38.230
That's what happened. What happened is, in Europe,
01:06:38.489 --> 01:06:42.150
they just let it go. And then people started
01:06:42.150 --> 01:06:45.030
running for office. And then, oh, now these people
01:06:45.030 --> 01:06:48.280
here don't represent my interest in the community
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:51.659
I'm also a part of. That's it. So are we seeing
01:06:51.659 --> 01:06:54.920
that the beginnings of that? I mean, with Mamdami
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.860
in New York and now, you know, others that have
01:06:57.860 --> 01:06:59.800
been elected, I forget what the number is of
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:03.699
how many Muslims are now sitting in places of
01:07:03.699 --> 01:07:05.960
authority and leadership in various communities
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:07.960
across the United States, especially as of the
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:14.550
last general election. So there seems to be Yes,
01:07:15.449 --> 01:07:18.789
absolutely. So I had dinner with a lobbyist friend
01:07:18.789 --> 01:07:21.449
of ours. I'm not going to say his name. I know
01:07:21.449 --> 01:07:23.429
who it is. Yeah. And I just asked straight up
01:07:23.429 --> 01:07:27.030
questions about that very thing. And he said,
01:07:27.670 --> 01:07:29.730
here's the thing, I disagree with the premise
01:07:29.730 --> 01:07:31.829
that it starts at the local level. He said, if
01:07:31.829 --> 01:07:34.869
we do not deal with the federal level, state
01:07:34.869 --> 01:07:37.050
and federal, he said federal, he didn't say state.
01:07:37.510 --> 01:07:39.429
He said, if we don't deal with it there, the
01:07:39.429 --> 01:07:43.670
trickle down effect is... A community like McKinney,
01:07:43.849 --> 01:07:45.929
even though they are their own county, their
01:07:45.929 --> 01:07:49.710
own state, they're still under federal jurisdiction
01:07:49.710 --> 01:07:53.969
in terms of various laws and what. So they can't
01:07:53.969 --> 01:07:57.269
just shut out or ignore the First Amendment,
01:07:58.230 --> 01:08:00.210
because that's very interpretive, as you know.
01:08:00.449 --> 01:08:04.050
And I said, so then what do we do? If it's not
01:08:04.050 --> 01:08:05.869
getting involved in the local level, what do
01:08:05.869 --> 01:08:08.369
we do? And he told me three things that scared
01:08:08.369 --> 01:08:11.840
the snot out of me. I don't know. You see, I
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.639
disagree. I don't think the mosques are the issue.
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.020
That's why I brought this up. I want you to talk
01:08:17.020 --> 01:08:20.979
about this because I too have adopted... I can't
01:08:20.979 --> 01:08:24.779
maybe impact Washington. I can't run for Senator,
01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:27.579
but I can impact here. But what do people want
01:08:27.579 --> 01:08:30.060
to do? You want to outlaw Scientology? You want
01:08:30.060 --> 01:08:34.680
to outlaw... Look, if you have someone speaking,
01:08:35.779 --> 01:08:39.399
which is a problem, speaking seditious language
01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:41.750
against the United States, Guess what? That's
01:08:41.750 --> 01:08:44.130
protected under the First Amendment. Right. Just
01:08:44.130 --> 01:08:47.050
like you're protected in your pulpit. Right.
01:08:47.449 --> 01:08:50.729
But who is controlling our local community? Who
01:08:50.729 --> 01:08:53.550
controls whether whatever kind of building is
01:08:53.550 --> 01:08:56.050
built? Right. You know, I wouldn't necessarily
01:08:56.050 --> 01:08:59.569
want to sign. I wouldn't want a Scientology headquarters
01:08:59.569 --> 01:09:02.529
here either. It's local and county commissions.
01:09:02.630 --> 01:09:05.369
So, you know, what I hear is this, and I think
01:09:05.369 --> 01:09:08.270
it's a cop out. I felt fatalistic when he said
01:09:08.270 --> 01:09:11.119
it. It's a cop out. It's to go say, well, We
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.720
got to have a law against Islam, declare it not
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.939
a religion. A good luck. Right. Good luck. Yeah,
01:09:16.939 --> 01:09:18.579
you're fighting the Constitution there. But I
01:09:18.579 --> 01:09:22.680
saw this happen for 25 years. That's why I think
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.159
we have a long way to go before we're in trouble.
01:09:25.460 --> 01:09:28.739
However, if we see that train coming, if it's
01:09:28.739 --> 01:09:30.640
like, you know, the title of Eric Clapton, slow
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:33.659
train coming. Start now. Then we need to do something
01:09:33.659 --> 01:09:36.319
now. And I think what people would like to know,
01:09:36.739 --> 01:09:40.289
what do we do? Well, you're doing it. when the
01:09:40.289 --> 01:09:42.789
Texas School Board Commission wanted to know,
01:09:43.130 --> 01:09:46.250
okay, what goes into the curriculum? You and
01:09:46.250 --> 01:09:49.630
Annette and other people from our community went
01:09:49.630 --> 01:09:53.109
to the state level and said, no, no, we want
01:09:53.109 --> 01:09:56.210
this, we don't want that. And I believe we were
01:09:56.210 --> 01:10:00.710
successful. And what they wanted was no Ten Commandments,
01:10:01.189 --> 01:10:04.470
Koran, other things. No Bible stories to teach
01:10:04.470 --> 01:10:09.529
literature. That is how it's done. I appreciate
01:10:09.529 --> 01:10:11.949
the lobbyist. From now on, just going to be known
01:10:11.949 --> 01:10:15.090
as the Hill Country lobbyist. The lobbyist. If
01:10:15.090 --> 01:10:16.609
he's listening, you'll be laughing right now.
01:10:16.630 --> 01:10:20.529
No, and that's fine. No, yeah, it is. But I just
01:10:20.529 --> 01:10:23.369
really don't agree. If you don't want that stuff,
01:10:23.850 --> 01:10:26.949
don't go on your text group or Instagram like,
01:10:27.210 --> 01:10:32.670
oh, no. You need to get off your blessed assurance.
01:10:32.670 --> 01:10:34.779
Thank you, brother. I was going to say it if
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you didn't. And you've got to do something. Yeah.
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You know, we as a church, we wanted to get leadership
01:10:41.939 --> 01:10:44.979
here in Fredericksburg that we agreed with, who
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agreed with our principles, our ideas of what
01:10:48.579 --> 01:10:51.920
our community values should be about, thought
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.039
that the other candidate might not represent
01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:57.859
those entirely. So we went to town. That's what
01:10:57.859 --> 01:11:02.180
it is. Don't think that the DSA and the DSA are
01:11:02.180 --> 01:11:08.739
the ones who, it's always the left and the, it's
01:11:08.739 --> 01:11:12.060
always the left who will go with these types
01:11:12.060 --> 01:11:16.560
of groups, like political Islamists. It's documented.
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.140
This is exactly what happened in Amsterdam, in
01:11:19.140 --> 01:11:23.930
Rotterdam, in London, in the Netherlands. because
01:11:23.930 --> 01:11:26.069
that's really what had the most experience in
01:11:26.069 --> 01:11:28.250
the Netherlands nationally. Now they have a parliamentary
01:11:28.250 --> 01:11:32.369
system which has other problems. So we're not
01:11:32.369 --> 01:11:35.130
exactly in the same boat and we have regular
01:11:35.130 --> 01:11:39.130
elections. So, you know, New York, it's going
01:11:39.130 --> 01:11:41.970
to be up to New York. If New York is real happy,
01:11:42.170 --> 01:11:44.050
if everyone's really grooving in a couple of
01:11:44.050 --> 01:11:46.409
years when it's time for the mayoral election,
01:11:46.449 --> 01:11:49.050
I think it's six years, you know, you can also
01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:51.609
impeach somebody. But if they're still really
01:11:51.609 --> 01:11:54.750
happy and it's moving and grooving, which I doubt,
01:11:55.329 --> 01:11:58.189
then they'll keep going that way. But this is
01:11:58.189 --> 01:12:01.729
America. We have fought for our freedom and for
01:12:01.729 --> 01:12:04.210
what we believe and for our values. We fought
01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:06.970
for that. We'll just fight for it again. Exactly.
01:12:07.270 --> 01:12:10.149
And that's it. So I'm not, I think it's a cop
01:12:10.149 --> 01:12:12.710
out to say it has to be changed at the federal
01:12:12.710 --> 01:12:15.689
level. I see, oh, Abbott, how come you're not
01:12:15.689 --> 01:12:18.729
fixing, Ken Paxson, where are you now? And this,
01:12:18.869 --> 01:12:23.270
you know, it's like, stop banging on the keyboard,
01:12:23.930 --> 01:12:28.149
get up and organize and do something. And I truly,
01:12:28.329 --> 01:12:33.609
I've seen it. I think our pastors, our priests,
01:12:34.050 --> 01:12:38.590
our rabbis, whoever it is, they organize people.
01:12:38.930 --> 01:12:42.350
If you can get 700 people, 800 people on a Sunday
01:12:42.350 --> 01:12:45.470
to come listen to you, then you can organize
01:12:45.470 --> 01:12:49.439
them. to at least prayerfully vote for who they
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:52.119
want to. Which we did. Which we did. Or stand
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:55.239
to vote. And we all know now that you have the
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:58.260
right to be political, too. Which was a scam
01:12:58.260 --> 01:13:00.520
of epic proportion with the Johnson Amendment.
01:13:00.619 --> 01:13:05.100
Which set us back decades. Decades. So I get
01:13:05.100 --> 01:13:06.880
really fired up about that. I'm glad I did that
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:08.560
on purpose, you know. No, it's good. I poured
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.640
gasoline on the fire because I, too, am beating
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.380
the drum of I may not be able to impact Long
01:13:16.380 --> 01:13:19.579
game, I can. Short game, I can't impact Washington,
01:13:19.699 --> 01:13:21.899
but I can impact Fredericksburg, Texas. Yes,
01:13:21.899 --> 01:13:24.500
but what does the lobbyist say? What do we have
01:13:24.500 --> 01:13:28.039
to do at the federal level? What is like outlaw
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.239
Islam? He literally said, I don't know. We got
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:32.439
to elect the right people. And I'm going to go
01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:35.539
on. But at the federal level, we have very limited
01:13:35.539 --> 01:13:38.460
impact on who's elected at that level. I mean,
01:13:38.460 --> 01:13:40.760
we can go out. We'll continue to vote. But what
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:42.880
can an elected person do? What can a lawmaker
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.609
do? They have to represent us. Right, but we
01:13:46.609 --> 01:13:52.390
have a very clear constitution. Just because
01:13:52.390 --> 01:13:56.170
you can't make laws against what people believe
01:13:56.170 --> 01:13:58.270
and what they're thinking, doesn't mean you can't
01:13:58.270 --> 01:14:00.689
make laws about what building is placed somewhere.
01:14:01.229 --> 01:14:04.510
You can make laws about that. You can have dress
01:14:04.510 --> 01:14:09.369
code laws if you want. You can outlaw dancing.
01:14:09.529 --> 01:14:12.510
Hello, Footloose. You can literally do whatever
01:14:12.510 --> 01:14:15.239
you do, but you can't curtail freedom of speech
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:19.319
or free freedom of religion. So instead of like
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:23.250
this crazy stupid. We've got to outlaw Islam.
01:14:23.250 --> 01:14:25.729
Tell them it's not a religion. Good luck. Yeah,
01:14:25.729 --> 01:14:28.130
that's not gonna happen. Pastafarians everywhere
01:14:28.130 --> 01:14:30.430
unite. That's not gonna happen, bro. It's not
01:14:30.430 --> 01:14:33.390
gonna happen. No. So, but you can do all these
01:14:33.390 --> 01:14:34.909
other things. But we also don't need to show
01:14:34.909 --> 01:14:38.189
up in meetings with pitchforks. No. Wrong. Exactly.
01:14:38.550 --> 01:14:41.289
And flamethrowers because we're mad. No, because
01:14:41.289 --> 01:14:43.930
we're mad at ourselves for not doing it earlier.
01:14:44.149 --> 01:14:46.630
Exactly. But also it leaks over in very much
01:14:46.630 --> 01:14:50.319
ungodliness. As a follower of Jesus, I have a
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.199
responsibility to say yes to obedience and no
01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.739
to impulse. A lot of this is what we're talking
01:14:57.739 --> 01:15:02.039
about is impulse, control, lack of. We get upset,
01:15:02.180 --> 01:15:05.640
we get outraged, we see a video, a clip, a 12
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.979
-second clip or a headline, alert, alert, breaking
01:15:08.979 --> 01:15:15.539
news. We just forget who we are, who we say we
01:15:15.539 --> 01:15:17.659
are, and we start acting like something we're
01:15:17.659 --> 01:15:21.819
not. And yet we think we're doing it in the name
01:15:21.819 --> 01:15:26.180
of righteousness in God. That's dangerous. What
01:15:26.180 --> 01:15:29.079
scripture can we apply to this? Because we're
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:33.239
doing the opposite. Well, it's any of the wisdom
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:37.000
scriptures. We're to act and walk in the wisdom.
01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:40.079
We've been given the mind of Christ. He says,
01:15:40.810 --> 01:15:43.510
You've not been given a spirit of fear because
01:15:43.510 --> 01:15:45.529
this is what these things are. They're fear -driven,
01:15:45.930 --> 01:15:48.369
right? Yes. So, Timothy 1 -7, you've not been
01:15:48.369 --> 01:15:51.970
given a spirit of fear, but of power and of love
01:15:51.970 --> 01:15:54.590
and of a sound mind, the ability to think well.
01:15:54.869 --> 01:15:56.729
There's your scripture. Yeah. Because what's
01:15:56.729 --> 01:15:59.649
happening, people are getting to the first gate,
01:15:59.890 --> 01:16:03.170
which is fear, and they don't get past that to
01:16:03.170 --> 01:16:05.350
power, love, and a sound mind, the ability to
01:16:05.350 --> 01:16:07.609
think well. Man, we got to keep running through
01:16:07.609 --> 01:16:10.159
that scripture and get to the end. It's one thing
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.300
to have a reaction, a visceral reaction, because
01:16:12.300 --> 01:16:14.300
man, that's what these are designed to do, right?
01:16:14.420 --> 01:16:18.239
These news feeds, they're vying for your attention.
01:16:18.420 --> 01:16:21.140
It's all about your attention. It's gaslighting.
01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:24.000
It's totally that. But you've got to get past
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.039
that too. Wait a minute. No, no, no. I refuse
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:31.539
to walk in fear. I refuse to toss it. I refuse
01:16:31.539 --> 01:16:34.039
to say, I don't know. There's nothing we can
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:37.239
do. That's as un -American as it gets. I'm with
01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:38.859
you on that. To think that there's nothing we
01:16:38.859 --> 01:16:42.180
can do. Man, just tell our founding fathers that
01:16:42.180 --> 01:16:45.319
who gave their lives, their fortunes, and their
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.119
sacred honor for this. So anyway, I'm with you
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:50.220
on that. I'm stirred up about it as well. So
01:16:50.220 --> 01:16:53.619
instead of running around with pitchforks and
01:16:53.619 --> 01:16:58.579
torches, let's get strategic. Let's think well.
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:01.539
Let's calm down so we can think well because
01:17:01.539 --> 01:17:04.020
you cannot make good decisions when you're in
01:17:04.020 --> 01:17:07.520
a cortisol dump. I get a little fired up too.
01:17:08.700 --> 01:17:11.640
Let's uh, we gotta, we gotta land this, but yeah,
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:15.079
we, we turned into no agenda here. Three hours
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:20.960
with Jesus. So we do have an agenda. We got a
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.300
Jesus agenda. Yep, we do. Gotcha. Um, we asked
01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:28.640
people, um, to come up with names for, uh, people
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.779
who listen and write in and comment and are a
01:17:31.779 --> 01:17:35.460
part of our, we get to do this audience. I'm
01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:37.000
going to run through a couple because we got
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:42.560
quite a few. We got Paul of Frogden Hill said,
01:17:42.699 --> 01:17:47.760
doers, and he referred to James 1 .22, don't
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:49.960
just listen to God's word, you must do what it
01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:52.359
says, otherwise you are only fooling yourselves.
01:17:53.500 --> 01:17:55.720
Todd Allen came up with a whole bunch of them.
01:17:56.140 --> 01:17:57.779
I'm just going to list them. I mean, I don't
01:17:57.779 --> 01:18:01.079
agree with all of them, but crusaders, saints,
01:18:01.460 --> 01:18:04.460
stewards, apprentice, companions, guardians,
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:08.800
vanguard, maybe. Windy, our own Windy, Windy
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:13.739
Winstead. She said, the get -to crew, which I
01:18:13.739 --> 01:18:16.460
kind of like the get -to crew. And she also said,
01:18:16.579 --> 01:18:20.039
maybe we should just be leaky buckets. I love
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:24.340
how you're thinking, Windy. But see, this one,
01:18:24.380 --> 01:18:27.319
I don't know who sent this. Faith Weavers, Weavers,
01:18:27.420 --> 01:18:32.159
the faithful testifiers. Michael Anastasio, who
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.579
donated again today, we'll get to that. He said,
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:40.770
devotees. I don't know about devotees. Casey
01:18:40.770 --> 01:18:48.489
Van Heel, doers, we get to doers or do -gooders.
01:18:49.229 --> 01:18:51.630
He said, we need to change the name of our podcast.
01:18:51.970 --> 01:18:56.949
We could also get we get to do bags. That's pretty
01:18:56.949 --> 01:18:58.470
funny. I know where that's coming from. I like
01:18:58.470 --> 01:19:00.909
that we get to do bags. That's pretty funny.
01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:07.670
Another one for doers from Carl Markley. Several
01:19:07.670 --> 01:19:11.810
people came up with Dewars. So, I don't know,
01:19:11.829 --> 01:19:14.569
I think it's still up in the air. What did you
01:19:14.569 --> 01:19:16.590
have before we started? At the beginning, you
01:19:16.590 --> 01:19:19.229
said - I'm leaning towards Get -To Nation. Get
01:19:19.229 --> 01:19:22.470
-To Nation? Get -To, like Gitmo, Get -To. It's
01:19:22.470 --> 01:19:24.449
got a vibe, it's got rhyme, it's got a flow.
01:19:24.930 --> 01:19:28.569
I like the idea of nation, because I'm one of
01:19:28.569 --> 01:19:31.670
those Christian nationalists. I like the name,
01:19:31.750 --> 01:19:36.210
so I'm not averse to this at all. I'm leaning
01:19:36.210 --> 01:19:39.430
that way, but man, I love hearing these. I appreciate
01:19:39.430 --> 01:19:43.930
people putting a moment into this. People love
01:19:43.930 --> 01:19:46.229
doing these things. That's cool. Now I want to
01:19:46.229 --> 01:19:49.130
thank some people who supported us. We are value
01:19:49.130 --> 01:19:53.210
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You know, some interesting ones. But that's it's
01:20:28.539 --> 01:20:30.640
all good when you're talking about right off
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the bat we got five hundred dollars from Now
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there was no note associated, but this is from
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Jill and Mike. Oh I love those guys that I mean,
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they're gonna keep mr. Chevy for us. They took
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care of that cool. They're amazing Thank you
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so much. Thank you guys. You can't hide under
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can't hide from from us. Thank you so much We
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got $333 .33 from Brett. And of course, we're
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reading the notes for people who send stuff in.
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Adam and Jimmy, first off, love the podcast.
01:21:06.470 --> 01:21:08.149
Adam, I've been watching you since I was about
01:21:08.149 --> 01:21:12.649
five years old. Going all the way back to Dial
01:21:12.649 --> 01:21:16.090
MTV. Also a longtime No Agenda listener, Rest
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In Peace, JCD. I also worked with Mevio in the
01:21:19.050 --> 01:21:21.489
past life. Wow. But I'll save that story for
01:21:21.489 --> 01:21:24.359
another time. I recently found my relationship
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.079
with God. Adam, hearing about your journey has
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:29.399
been really inspiring. I've been listening to
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:32.659
WGTDT since episode one. Love what you guys are
01:21:32.659 --> 01:21:34.880
doing. Really hope more and more people find
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the show and the message along with some treasure.
01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:41.220
333 .33 donation through Stripe. End time, I
01:21:41.220 --> 01:21:42.939
wanted to share a little talent too. I made a
01:21:42.939 --> 01:21:46.960
deep house track using Genesis 1 1 6 as the lyrics
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.640
and created a video that visualizes the words
01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:53.550
through semantics. And we'll put that in the
01:21:53.550 --> 01:21:55.609
show notes. Cool. Yes, just wanted to share with
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you guys. Thanks for what you're doing. God bless
01:21:58.430 --> 01:22:03.350
you both. Person of Merit Comics. It's Casey
01:22:03.350 --> 01:22:09.569
Van Heel. $177 .77. So this is a variation on
01:22:09.569 --> 01:22:13.590
the $77 .77. Thanks, Casey. This is for the A
01:22:13.590 --> 01:22:17.439
&J Faith Factory. There you go. There's a t -shirt,
01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:20.579
A &J Faith Factory. I started listening after
01:22:20.579 --> 01:22:23.819
the Robin Peter incident when good old JCD accused
01:22:23.819 --> 01:22:27.640
Adam of reusing clips and content from WGTDT
01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.039
for the No Agenda Show. So if it's good enough
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.020
for No Agenda, then it's good enough for me.
01:22:32.020 --> 01:22:34.220
Oh, that's great. Getting introduced to the lovely
01:22:34.220 --> 01:22:36.300
Pastor Jimmy and Adam's journey to Christ couldn't
01:22:36.300 --> 01:22:38.920
have come at a better time for me. I lost my
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:41.640
father to cancer along with housing and job woes.
01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.739
Then the loss of JCD felt like the hits. just
01:22:44.739 --> 01:22:47.539
wouldn't stop coming. Absolutely nothing like
01:22:47.539 --> 01:22:53.899
the faith -filled chart toppers of A &JFF. I'm
01:22:53.899 --> 01:22:56.000
not quite sure what he's saying there. Your conversations,
01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:58.520
perspective, and faith have helped to keep the
01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:02.220
rails under my wheels. Also, he's the one that
01:23:02.220 --> 01:23:06.000
suggested we get to do gooders and we get to
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:10.539
do bags. We appreciate it, Casey. Thank you very
01:23:10.539 --> 01:23:13.840
much. There's Michael Anastasio with $150. Thank
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.420
you very much. He says, Brothers, have you thought
01:23:17.420 --> 01:23:21.600
about calling your supporters devotees? It sounds
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:24.319
a little too fan -ish. A little churchy. Churchy.
01:23:24.340 --> 01:23:26.899
Thank you, Michael. Coming from the pastor, that's
01:23:26.899 --> 01:23:30.359
too churchy. But thank you. Jurlee Herbert from
01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.819
Austin, Texas. You remember Julie? She actually,
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.619
I think she's the one that... Does she connect
01:23:37.619 --> 01:23:41.500
us to Bridge? Wait, that was Peggy. Well, Julie,
01:23:41.699 --> 01:23:44.199
Messianic Jew, been a friend of ours for a long,
01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:46.760
long time. She's awesome, and her husband, amazing.
01:23:46.939 --> 01:23:49.119
Ben, yes. Hundred dollars. Love hearing about
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:50.819
what's happening in the world from a biblical
01:23:50.819 --> 01:23:53.699
perspective. It's really needed in today's world.
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:56.579
Keep up the great work. P .S. I really enjoyed
01:23:56.579 --> 01:23:59.479
reading Theo of Golden. Oh, you know what? I
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:01.420
started that book. Tina's been reading it. She
01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:03.220
says... I read the first chapter. I'm like, okay,
01:24:03.260 --> 01:24:05.899
I'm in. I'm going to keep going. It's not like
01:24:05.899 --> 01:24:08.840
the secret. No, no. I feel good about it. I did
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:10.979
some research on the guy. So he's all... He's
01:24:10.979 --> 01:24:15.460
legit. It's good. SirAraDudarian, BigNoAgendaName,
01:24:15.539 --> 01:24:18.920
$100. Episode 44 was the first episode I listened
01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:23.100
to Pastor Jimmy. It's nice to make your acquaintance.
01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:25.579
Adam, I cannot tell you how much it pleases me
01:24:25.579 --> 01:24:27.420
to know you're on this path. Stay the course.
01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:31.300
I did not know Erededarian was a believer. He's
01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:34.039
been supporting No Agenda, I think since episode
01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:39.819
one. Amazing. It's great. Walter Bartels, $100.
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:42.039
Thanks, Walter. So happy to see you guys doing
01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.479
this media deconstruction with a focus on our
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:47.319
heavenly kingdom. Don't forget to pray for your
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:49.260
Canadian neighbors up north. We could definitely
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use it. Absolutely. I am a hearty man. I'm all
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:56.180
about Canada night these days. I was standing
01:24:56.180 --> 01:24:58.659
outside the bank with Mimi and we were waiting
01:24:58.659 --> 01:25:03.220
for our for our Ubers and this guy comes up and
01:25:03.220 --> 01:25:06.199
he says, could you spare a few dollars? I said,
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:09.020
sure. So I literally pull out some dollars. So
01:25:09.020 --> 01:25:11.810
he go, he says, Can I pray for you, brother?"
01:25:11.810 --> 01:25:14.850
I'm like, yeah. And man, he went to town. I'm
01:25:14.850 --> 01:25:16.649
like, I'm holding onto his shoulder. He's going
01:25:16.649 --> 01:25:20.789
to town. He's like, you know, the Lord has big
01:25:20.789 --> 01:25:23.569
things in store for you. And we rebuke you, Satan.
01:25:23.630 --> 01:25:26.630
I'm like, yes, we rebuke you. And then I said,
01:25:26.789 --> 01:25:28.430
amen, brother. And then he fist bump me. He said,
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I'll see you in his kingdom, man. I'll see you
01:25:31.050 --> 01:25:33.850
there. And I just, I felt so good. And Mimi said,
01:25:34.029 --> 01:25:42.590
well, that was cute. You're like all, I loved
01:25:42.590 --> 01:25:45.550
it. I loved it. I didn't know it. Can I pray
01:25:45.550 --> 01:25:47.289
for you? That is so cool. Bring it to me. Man,
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I love it. Timothy Hoytner, 77 -77, Matthew 7
01:25:53.329 --> 01:25:56.289
-7. Cool. Dear brothers, please pray for our
01:25:56.289 --> 01:25:58.909
friends, the Maitland family. There are people
01:25:58.909 --> 01:26:01.289
here who love them and need wisdom and knowing
01:26:01.289 --> 01:26:03.409
the best way to help. Thank you very much from
01:26:03.409 --> 01:26:06.369
the Hoytner family. So the Maitland. family is
01:26:06.369 --> 01:26:08.989
on the list. Thanks, Timothy. Steve Weiss. Now,
01:26:08.989 --> 01:26:11.909
remember, we taped our show a little bit earlier
01:26:11.909 --> 01:26:14.609
in the last episode. So Steve Weiss came in twice
01:26:14.609 --> 01:26:19.829
with 7777. Steve and Stephanie with more striper
01:26:19.829 --> 01:26:21.689
numbers. That's right. It is a striper donation.
01:26:22.510 --> 01:26:24.649
Adam's journey continues to be an inspiration.
01:26:24.890 --> 01:26:27.510
Tina was also the spark that lit our fire a few
01:26:27.510 --> 01:26:30.170
years ago. And Pastor Jimmy and Annette are fuel
01:26:30.170 --> 01:26:33.970
to the fire. So just love that. We so appreciate
01:26:33.970 --> 01:26:38.720
you. Yes. Darius Walker. Uh, he, uh, goodness,
01:26:38.819 --> 01:26:42.300
I need to talk about his book. He, uh, he did
01:26:42.300 --> 01:26:45.380
a, uh, a pictorial book of his time in, I think
01:26:45.380 --> 01:26:52.359
Afghanistan. He's a veteran 77 14 moving my WV
01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:55.979
Hill donation of West Virginia Hill country to
01:26:55.979 --> 01:26:59.960
WGTDT. Though I'll miss the old no agenda and
01:26:59.960 --> 01:27:02.300
will still listen, this is more my thing as a
01:27:02.300 --> 01:27:05.399
20 -year bivocational pastor of a small community
01:27:05.399 --> 01:27:08.119
church in West Virginia. God bless you both,
01:27:08.300 --> 01:27:11.060
Darius Walker, Charleston, West Virginia. And
01:27:11.060 --> 01:27:14.659
there is Prahl Vogt and Hill. $50. Love this
01:27:14.659 --> 01:27:17.159
podcast. Been listening since launch. I especially
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.060
like it when you discuss current events from
01:27:19.060 --> 01:27:21.380
a Christian worldview. I think that's kind of
01:27:21.380 --> 01:27:23.680
our sweet spot. I love that. That's where we're
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:26.579
at. Edwin Torres, $50. God bless you both. God
01:27:26.579 --> 01:27:30.119
bless you. Cameron Dodd, 30. Loving the new,
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:32.819
to me, show. Thank you for all you both do. Then
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we have $10 .80 from Kip Hoffman and $10 .61
01:27:36.220 --> 01:27:39.399
from Kip Hoffman. Is that me? I'm sorry. I hear
01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:46.220
music. Yeah. John's Creek Studios, $5 .65. And
01:27:46.220 --> 01:27:49.460
Dwayne Spellman Jr., he comes in with $1 .53
01:27:49.460 --> 01:27:51.640
for every single show, so we had two of those.
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.060
Thanks, brothers. And thank you, brothers and
01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:58.079
sisters, for all of your support. WGTDTdonations
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.com, WGTDT .com for on the sub stack. And you
01:28:02.739 --> 01:28:06.020
can subscribe there and do all the good things.
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.420
I'm trying to remember who gave us the coins.
01:28:09.200 --> 01:28:12.220
From last time we didn't get challenge coins.
01:28:12.220 --> 01:28:14.640
Yeah, the challenge coins. I thought I had them
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.840
right here in my bag I literally thought I had
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:20.739
them with me And I apologize. Yeah, I'm feeling
01:28:20.739 --> 01:28:23.100
better myself. They're super cool, man. I love
01:28:23.100 --> 01:28:25.579
them I think they must be on my desk at the house
01:28:25.579 --> 01:28:29.779
Because I was going to really I was going to
01:28:29.779 --> 01:28:32.060
thank I just totally went through my bag all
01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:34.420
I know I'm looking forward as well, you know
01:28:34.420 --> 01:28:37.520
now we have the PO box we also got I want to
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:45.420
thank Arthur. Yeah, this is a really heavy note
01:28:45.420 --> 01:28:47.720
from Arthur. It's addressed to you, so I'm going
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.239
to give that to you. He sent that to the P .O.
01:28:50.539 --> 01:28:55.359
box. He's hanging on to his faith and we pray
01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:57.859
him for you, brother. Absolutely. I cannot believe
01:28:57.859 --> 01:29:00.739
it that I feel so bad about that. I know I put
01:29:00.739 --> 01:29:03.300
it in my bag and I kept dropping things on it.
01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:05.220
I didn't want to damage those coins, you know,
01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.319
so I think I must have set them on my desk. I
01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:14.960
apologize. Was it the Star Wars? Yes. Yes. That's
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:16.560
what it was. Did we talk about that? I don't
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.539
think so. I think you said, hey, bring this next
01:29:18.539 --> 01:29:21.739
week so we can talk about it. And I failed. We
01:29:21.739 --> 01:29:23.899
received it and we'll make good on it. They're
01:29:23.899 --> 01:29:27.720
very cool. Yeah. So yeah, we have a PO box. You
01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:32.159
can find everything at WGTDT .com. Wow, brother.
01:29:33.100 --> 01:29:35.600
I love doing this. This is so much. I've been
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.199
looking forward to this. Me too. And man, I love
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:41.560
that you got fired up today. That was fun. You
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.659
know the trigger. You know exactly. You did that
01:29:44.659 --> 01:29:47.340
on purpose. Okay, I did it. Yes, I did. I punched
01:29:47.340 --> 01:29:49.600
the button. You want to close this out? Yeah.
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.300
Yeah. Father, thank you for this time. I pray
01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:55.020
that what we say and do here is pleasing to you.
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:57.180
That's our heart. Yes. And Father, for all of
01:29:57.180 --> 01:29:58.960
our friends, thank you so much for those that
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.640
have been. donating and giving their time, talent,
01:30:01.699 --> 01:30:04.539
and treasure, Lord, towards this. Our heart is
01:30:04.539 --> 01:30:07.460
to bring something that's fresh, something that's
01:30:07.460 --> 01:30:12.140
life -giving, like the scripture says, that we're
01:30:12.140 --> 01:30:14.500
to let our light so shine before others that
01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:17.659
they may see the good and glorify our Father
01:30:17.659 --> 01:30:21.539
in heaven. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. And we
01:30:21.539 --> 01:30:24.899
will be back next week because we get to do this.
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Join us then. Goodbye, everybody.