Rob McConnell Interviews - TOMMY HAWKSBLOOD - UFOs, Aliens, Government Working with Aliens

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My guest this hour is Tommy Hawksblood. Tommy grew up
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in North Bergen, New Jersey, and had his first encounter
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with a UFO when he was six years old. He
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came close to his first alien at the age of twelve.
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During those six years, he spent working with a deity
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by the name of Green Tara, which he found out
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who it was twelve years later. Now, he learned hypnosis
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at fourteen and was fortunate enough to work with world
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renowned mentalist the Amazing Creskin, then later a group hypnosis
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which led him into past life aggressions and later into
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psychic implantarymovals. Now, in late sixty he was working with
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the number one medium out of the New York Psychic Center,
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Pat Jordan, in which they did ghostbusting in and around
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New York and New Jersey. They created a covenant at
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that time. During that time he was learning much about
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psychic abilities. He became an empathic at the age of
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twenty five. For a few years now spending much of
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his working life in soul travel and the UFO wave.
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Joining me now from Hawaii is Tommy Hawk's Blood and Tommy,
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welcome to the X Zone.
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Greeting hello, It's a pleasure to meet you.
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Thus you, Tommy, tell us a little bit more about
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your first UFO encounter when you were six.
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I guess this is when it all started to change
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my whole life. I came from Aka kind of a
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situation and family. But I was having my tonsles out
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and my brother was having his out for the second time,
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which is kind of like a not a normal thing
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for people to go through. So we were both in
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the hospital and it was twelve midnight and we were
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singing this song which we heard from I hated to
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bring a name up of Bill Cosby, you know his
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first comedy routine. I heard it his comedy routine where
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he was in the hospital having his councils out and
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they were screaming ice cream. We're going to get ice cream.
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So we were doing that in the hospital room at
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twelve or twelve midnight. There was three of us in
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the room. I would face from one person and my
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brother was across the room on the other side next
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to the window. All of a sudden, he jumps up
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in the back of this it's kind of like a
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crib because when you're literally have these bars to come
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up and keep you in there. And he was standing
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in the back screaming, Oh wow. I just jumped out
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of my crib, ran over to the window. This giant
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ball right ship was right coming right towards the window,
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and he was screaming. I just put my hands up,
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spread apart on the window and stared at the ship
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and it just shot back out into space. I mean,
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I didn't know what I was doing, why I even
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did what I did. I mean I was six years old,
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never saw a UFO and didn't know what the UFO was.
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And then I started back out into space. That was
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the eye open it for me. My brother doesn't even
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your life. What happened that? The kid, the person that
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was across from me, what was that? What was that?
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So it was so great and uh he kind of
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like didn't it didn't bother him at all, But it
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was on my mind. Uh So it started putting first
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in my thinking about what's out there and what's really
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going on. So then it was not much later I
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was sitting in my bed just sitting up thinking about
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what life was about. At six and a half seven,
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and I was being visited by a deity, and at
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that point, being that old, I didn't know what the
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deity was, but she was a beautiful deity, uh, And
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she took me out of my body and I traveled
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for four years with her and learned many things, not
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like what people would say, what do you learning? What
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do you learn? Not like the experiences you learn the
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planet Earth. I was learning about crystal light, animal crystals,
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beat the entity, I mean, the gnomes, salamanders, the fire, water,
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spirits and all those kind of things, and and spirit
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and energy and all those other things as well. So
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by the time I was eleven, I had an awayness
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of a lot of things. But the first time I
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ever had a friend stay over my house, we were
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up in our in the bedroom and heard noises. So
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we go walking down the stairs and there's this being
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standing there. It was about we were little. I was eleven.
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I had to be about six foot eight, six foot nine,
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kind of it's all skinny. But I had a cat.
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Said at eleven, you were six foot eight.
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No, he wasn't being in the story.
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Sorry, I'm sorry.
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Well, the thing we were looking at was kind of
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ball to us. We ran upstairs. We got a baseball
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bat and a stick, and we're going to go down
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and try to fight it. And then it kind of
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like it went through the door. And then we looked
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and we saw this light outside and the ship just
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took off. Oh my god. At that time, I was eleven.
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So we ran upstairs and my mother goes, hold on,
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hold on, let me get this straight. You see in
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the other room. Let me ask him what he saw.
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And then then she asked me what I saw, and
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she goes, well, whatever you saw, you both saw it, And
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I said, well, right, we both did. We were downstairs
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we were going to try to get it. So at
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that point I was being brought up as a Protestant,
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going to church every Sunday. My mother told me that
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I could no longer expirits. The spirits that I talked
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to weren't real. So this being that I was working with,
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I didn't know what to do because my mother told
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me that it's not real. It's not real. It's not
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real for sure.
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And if you can't trust your mother, who your trust?
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Right exactly? She already told me Santa Claus wasn't real.
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East Money thought real Superman Tho not real.
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So uh.
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So then it was like here I am, and I said,
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well what do I do? So by the time I
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got into hypnosis when I was thirteen, when I met Kreskin,
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I started doing hypnosis. At fourteen, I was doing kind
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of stage hypnos with all my friends. I kept them
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tis in as many as they could at the same time,
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and it was fun to me at the time. Most
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of my friends, I gave everybody a word. I could
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hypnotize everybody with just saying one word to each one
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of them, and they would go completely out in front
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of each other, so I could make him see each
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other sempitis. But at that point I was going to
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become baptized. I went to my minister and we were allowed.
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I was just baptized at fourteen, and we were allowed
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to ask our minsacre. There were a couple of questions,
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and I said to him, what is God? He goes, well,
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nobody knows what God is? What heaven looked like, nobody
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knows what heaven. I said, well, what are you doing Heaven? Well,
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nobody knows, And I said, well, I don't know. I
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don't want to be a Protestant no more. So. Then
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I actually formed my own covenant. I had my own
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own guidelines. My best friend was one of the top
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psychics I said you said before at the New York
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Psychic Center, and we used to go into She used
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to go into transis. I used to get whatever I
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needed from her directly. She used to channel this with
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Josie Josette from Salem, and I got all my skills
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that I needed. But then I started working on I
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had to cover to thirteen. I was a high priest,
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so I was We were trying to create energy intoe
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what it could do and stuff. Then we tried different
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things and multiple things, and I started proving to myself
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to something really really bad happened, which I wouldn't say
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over the year right now, but it made me realize.
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I said, I'm playing with fire. And then I got
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pulled into a relationship. And even that kind of pulled
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me away a little bit for a couple of years.
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But then I really started a spiritual quest. So what
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happened to one my spiritual quests? Alien ships were always
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there and I got in gloved with people in gloved
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with the Man Talk Project and saw different things and
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it became like part two of my life. It's UFOs
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and spiritualism. Both parts are the only thing that I've
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important in my life because I had to see over
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a thousand ships in my life, some from really close up.
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And then later on I was doing UFO work up
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in Montwalk, New Jersey. Basically it was where Tesla was
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doing all his work, his government property. We used to
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go on there three or four hours every other night,
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six days a week, and film and take pictures all
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night long and see all kinds of weird stuff. At
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that time, we started lecturing around the United States for
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Global Sciences, and this was about ninety six ninety seven,
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and people really weren't ready to see pictures of strange things,
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weird things, never mind believe really in UFOs. Yet when
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you say, when.
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You say weird three weird pictures, strange things, what are
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you talking about, Tommy, can you share any with us?
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Okay? Oh sure? It's like like we talked for years
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and people didn't even want to hear it. We saw
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six foot butterflies, fish flying through the air in the
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middle of the night, a mushroom that was about four
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feet high that just appeared, and these strange mists that
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like used to ride along the ground like a white cloud.
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They would follow you wherever you go, and if you
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turn around, they move away from you. And in the
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distance and all the trees, he would see these red eyes.
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And then I can go a little deeper because we
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did see We wouldn't see it, but we heard a dragon.
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I mean when there was six of us there and
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here really loud, kind of like shaking you. And then
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we heard the scream. I just had a problem with
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my tooth done yesterday, so I can't kind of do
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the sound that it did. But it was a real
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loud screech that echoed through the whole mountain. And then
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we heard a crash and then all these rocks started
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falling down. So the next day we went there and
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we actually got the footprint of the dragon where it
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landed on the ground. Another night, we were walking into
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the where testa did always work. They actually blew up
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the city and flooded it. It's a whole story which
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I don't think we'dn't have time to do what really
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went down in Jersey. Yeah, not to night, And it
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was the most incredible story, the most incredible UFO story
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that went on in the United States ever, and then
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did Intel the government of the Army. I mean they
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were home aloud for six months because this reservoir was
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a city that they flooded and the ships were just
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going in and out of it. But any interim testall
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did always work there, and they brew up this mountain.
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So that's where we were filming all these kinds of things.
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I filmed the first ORB on my regular camera, and
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then we started doing that, and then we actually did
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the first lecture in New York City saying we're gonna
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take pictures of orbs wherever we'd go, and we did
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that as part of our show when we traveled as well.
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So we were the first people probably going out saying
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we can film orbs anywhere anytime.
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Tell me what is an ORB?
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See? I can only give you what I feel think.
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Everybody has a viewpoint. People have a viewpoint. One in
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orders it's an energy field and it's probably an entity
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for a word, a different kind of a life form.
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They come to energy. The problem is they come to
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any form of energy, a negative energy, a positive energy, love, hate, anger, fear,
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any kind of emotional energy where they come to feel
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the energy and they go towards it when they stay
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around it. We used to light crystals up in the
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fields in the mountains where we were, and used to
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put spears on top of lights to light up the
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whole mountain. And then these light things would come or
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different orbits whould come around, and I dance and bring
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them into the light and stuff like that. It was
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just one thing that I felt that I was doing.
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the head medicine person, medicine man, two jaguar priests for
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Elvis from Canada or were given a vision to come
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to be with us, and we did ceremony on the
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mountain where Testa did all his work. But my friend
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that I did all this stuff with didn't come that night.
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they said, well, there's no spirits left here. I said, well,
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I made sure I free as many spirits as I
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They were all there, what kind of ceremony. I'm part native? Okay,
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I'm part Native, and I learned how to cross beings
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over at different levels and when I first got there,
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there were so many different kinds of spirits everywhere. Really,
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so I would do a dance, a native dance in
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front of these crystals and then do my prayers and
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then work with the light and a lot of these
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beings to go. I actually got one picture of one
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that we shot, but during that my friend shot a
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picture of me, which is actually a picture of me
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looking back at myself, which is actually on my site.
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into the Strea dot com you will see one of
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those pictures. We sent it to all the UFO people.
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They have no clue how it could have been made
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or what it was a picture of. I mean, we
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kind of separated. He created a whole thing out of it,
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saying it's my demon self looking at myself and a
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lot of things, but all the UFO people have no clue.
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I just showed it to a medicine woman recently and
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she says, well, you're looking at yourself in the future.
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So I mean, again, everything that a person perceives is
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their perception, and obviously it's hard to get other people
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to see the same perception that you're going through. Again,
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but again. We had thousands, not ten, twenty thousands of
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pictures of strange ships, UFOs orbs, as well as videos.
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He shot a video of an alien coming towards him
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with my camera. I wasn't there. It was the one
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night he went without me, and this missed opened up
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in this kind of There's a stone dragon statue in
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one of the museums and it looked exactly like the
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creature that came out of the myths and started talking
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to him. He tried to sell that movie for a
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million dollars through a museum in and you're in London.
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I think they gave him fifty thousand dollars, but they
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didn't want it, so he got it back. But we've
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got to see, like I said, multiple things here. The
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government was working there for a long time, Tesla was
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working there. The energy was intense. I mean, I could
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go into the home vortex thing, which is the only thing.
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I only brought that up to say that the vaw
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tex is. When they did the Montor project and the
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Philadelphia experiment, they put a rip in the energy field
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that goes from this dimension into the next. And when
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they did that, they put a rip that made it bigger,
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meaning a lot of the stuff for me. Now, that's
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why there's more abductions, more possessions, more people seeing creatures
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and entities and different things. Now, more people sending you
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talking to every angel under the sun as well. So
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it opened up this gateway to allow more things in.
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And the only thing I'll add to that before I
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changed it all completely. But at the end of that,
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a couple years ago, there was a blackout from Canada
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all the way down to Florida.
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YEP.
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That was the twentieth year cycle of the Mantork project
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because that's when the gate opens, and that's what happened,
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and they never said why. They never released anywhere in
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the United States about what happened that day when it
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all shut down. I'll be looking for some Nichols. I
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was doing one of them a little more than the other,
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and then I got involved with the creatures. I actually
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saw the Montork creature, and at the same time in Jersey,
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I saw a bigfoot. I was two feet from it.
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It was right next to me. I could have touched it,
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but I started running and I had reasons. I was
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running back to the truck to try to get my
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camera because I didn't have my camera on me. But
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that's a whole that's a different story, which was part
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of my reality. Opened my eyes to see things. When
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they say, well this isn't real, that's not real. I
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mean everybody will learn in their own time when they're
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ready to experience it or accept it. That's the way
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I would put it.
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Tell me, let me ask you this, are UFOs from
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here or are they from outer space?
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Well, my viewpoint, they are not from here. They wouldn't
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need a spaceship if they were from here. Again, there's
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two kinds of beings ets, interdimensional beings and then aliens.
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Aliens driving the ship into dimensional beings don't need a ship,
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but the ships. I will debate anybody from Stephen Hawkins
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down the road to any one of them, even Einstein.
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Einstein was wrong about a lot of things, and they're
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going to sell proven everything he said was wrong eventually.
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First of all, when I shot my first ship with
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a camera that was a thirty five thousand dollars camera
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twenty five years ago, it was traveling faster than the
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speed of light. We shot pictures, and the camera shots
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three hundred frames a second. We had to watch the
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three hundred frames a second in slow motion on two
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frames or three frames. The ship was on it going
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across the whole sky. So I knew it. I said,
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that's ridiculous. They're not. They have to be traveling faster
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than the speed of light to get through the universe
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in the time they do. Sure. And then when they say,
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well they go into a wormhole or or a black hole,
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I mean, I disagree with it at all. Now there's
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a person that came out last month, a top scientists
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said well, we don't have any real proof of anything
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in space, it's only theory. So with that being said
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for them, they say, well, it's definitely a black hole.
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They go through the bended and they go through bending time.
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Tesla's gonna be wrong, I mean not Tesla, Sorry Einstein.
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Tesla was right on. He was working with an alien
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and he had he has that action in his notes.
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I actually saw the notes way back when I was
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in Jersey, so he was talking about that way back
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then when he was doing his note. So it was
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a real thing that I feel that had to be
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because a person like that doesn't come out with two
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hundred inventions that all work. Considering he invented the first radio,
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and then how to time travel and how to he
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actually was responsible for quantum physics at that time. So yeah,
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he was working with something beyond what people here knew
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or could figure out in college and think they could
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learn by sitting in college for four to four years.
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So that whole thing. UFOs do come from other worlds.
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I'm not going to say UFOs don't come through dimensions.
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If it's through a dimension, it's not a solid ship.
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When I say you aliens, I always refer to a
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solid object ship, meaning it travels through space and it's
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a form. Interdimensional beings travel and life bodies and the
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like forms like a ship if you look at it
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as a white light. But it's not a solid object.
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And I don't know if you watched any of the
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pictures of the ship's going into the sun and everything.
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They're going into the sun, because the sun's not solid,
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it's liquid, it's a gas, and these ships get their
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power from it. Again here in Hawaii right now, my
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friend called me yesterday watching me to come over his house.
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He said he shot a whole bunch of videos of
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ships going into the volcano. So obviously the ships are
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a lot stronger and built different than the technology that
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we can assume that we have or what was shown.
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We have a friend who was found dead two days
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after we did the show with just Aventur, Fred Bell, Well,
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he worked on a lot of this stuff. I got
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pretty close to what he was saying about these different
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things and everything. So I trust him because he was
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working on the ship's way back. When. Then when just
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Ventura says we whoa, aren't you worried about the government,
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he goes, no, No, I work for the government, And
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he goes, what about me, Oh, well, don't worry about
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You're a high person out there. Two days later, we
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sat him dead in a hotel room right after that interview. So,
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I mean, the government watches people, and what I wanted
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to say, I don't change the whole subject, but there's
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hundreds of whistleblowers coming out right now on every aspect
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of aliens and government seek the programs and everything else.
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The only problem, and I mean I've watched and listened
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to every single one of them. I met with so
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many different people that claim this and that the problem
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is they don't fit together. They're not the same story.
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I mean, if you have people coming out and say, well,
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there were Kennedy when he was shot, well ones as well. No,
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it wasn't Kennedy, it was double. I mean, you can
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change the story, sure, And that's what's happening. When I
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listened to these stories over and over, and I used
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to I have my own show when I was bringing
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people on. I just got tired of bringing people that
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are telling stories to me. If it can't be provable,
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then if it doesn't help the human race, it's totally useless.
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And yet most most of the people, most of the
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people that talk about government conspiracies cover ups all these
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conspiracy theories. It's all talk. There's very little proof out there.
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See that's the biggest thing that I complained about. When
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what's the thing the person has to prove it is
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the person that's saying it exactly, not the person that's
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listening to it. So if you're gonna say your God,
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well prove your God. If you're going to say you're
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an alien, prove it. What makes you different than us?
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If you say you're an alien. I can go into
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that in great detail because I just had some incredible
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things happening. But on top of all that, working with abductees,
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which I started when I was twenty five, people that
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were abducted and had implants stuck in them in different things.
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The story is the same after you pull them out
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of the programmed idea that they were stuck with. Now,
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Bud Hopkins isn't here to defend himself. I didn't like him,
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I didn't agree with him, But my best friend was
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the person that made him famous. She went on tour
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with him for his first year, and he worked with
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people I know, and basically he didn't help them with
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their abduction. I mean, even look at Travis Waalson Walter Travis,
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He's still dealing with his situation that happened all these years,
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and he was only abducted once. I'm dealing with people
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with multiple abductions. And the girl that I'm talking about,
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she was abducted for a couple of years, and I'm
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staying in touch with her because I'm just seeing because
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there's a lot of UFO stuff happening every which way
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right now, and I'm just wondering if they're going to
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be plugging her again. But in the interim, I got
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one of the most incredible stories I'm working on right now.
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Trying to get publicity for it because we will bring
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the most important information out to the world that the
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world really needs to see or hear, or observe and
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test for themselves. I'm talking are aliens real? Are Bigfoot reel?
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I mean? Is there really ships? Are they real ships
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or the government ships? Or they are ships? Hmm, all
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those kinds of questions. We plan on doing it where
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we're working. I have a camera person that will do
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the whole thing, but we want to do a six
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point series and sell it to a company that's willing
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to support it. I want them to be involved with
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the information as we pull it out.
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Well, i'll tell you for I'll tell you what. I'll
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tell you one thing Bigfoot Israel. There was a there
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was a scientific discovery earlier this year that proves beyond
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a shadow of a doubt that Bigfoot did exist and
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does exist. It's a new hominin that was discovered and
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the scientific information was found around Mount Saint Helen's.
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Well, I can't go into that in detail. I can
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with people involved with that right now.
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I've got the I've got the scientific paper. I've had
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Mitchell Townsend on the show, so you know that there's
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no big secret about it.
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Well, there's a lot of things. There's a city underground there,
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and there's a lot of other things that government's taken
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over at Mount Chaster right now. I mean, there's whole
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bunch of movement going on, is what I'm saying.
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Yeah, but how do we know this move How do
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we know this movement is real? Like when people want
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to when people want to bamboozle other people, they come
482
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up with these great big stories about under underground basis,
483
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and they come up with all this crap and corruption.
484
00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.640
They sound like lunatics. So how can anybody take them seriously?
485
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:20.640
Well, see, here's the thing. If they don't have the
486
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video and the proof, then they should shut up. Now
487
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.039
let me say this Phil Snyder, all right, he came
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out and started talking about it, and then six months
489
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later when he started talking about it, he kind of
490
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:35.559
got cremated. But in the interim he has body marks
491
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that nobody could do with a knife or a cigarette
492
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or anything. When he was hit by the gun the
493
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laser from the Allien, his hand was blasted on an angle,
494
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his stomach was blown out and blew out his foot. Yeah,
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that's not a normal thing. A person could recreate. Well,
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I'm going to just set this up and make it
497
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look like I was shot by a laser. Really, but again,
498
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I have a friend in Long Island. Now, he's in
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the nuthouse. He's been in there since nineteen ninety six.
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Nineteen ninety six was the year the government decided to
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go after a lot of people. They took out Phil Snyder,
502
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they took John Ford. He's in the in the nuthouse
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in Long Island. They killed a lot of people. My
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best friend who worked for NASA, who I actually just
505
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.079
started showing some UFOs and we were going to do
506
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:19.039
something incredible. His whole family disappeared within three days, all right,
507
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And that was in Jersey. A couple of my friends
508
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disappeared as well. So when people say things, I showed
509
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.279
John Ford's video. It's the best video of a UFO
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crash that was ever taken. He made four copies of
511
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it centered around the world. If he dies, everybody in
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the world will see him. If he lives, nobody will
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see him.
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So let me ask let me ask you this. If
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there's all this proof, how can the governments of the
516
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world still deny the existence?
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Uh, let's see first and you know, I keep asking
518
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.880
myself somebody has to slip up sooner or later, and
519
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.799
we'd have to be at that point right now to
520
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be like the government president. I mean when they said
521
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the president was talking about the aliens and stuff, he
522
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.079
was smiling and everything. But there has to be a
523
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.440
slip up. But I know, people, here's the problem. People
524
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.880
that are telling stories stay out there and keep spreading
525
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:16.680
those stories. The people that have the truth disappear. In
526
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nineteen ninety six, two hundred UFO people disappeared. A lot
527
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.000
of them were killed, a lot of them just disappeared.
528
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.039
So again, I'm talking to my best friend. I knew
529
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him since I was twelve years old and he was
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I was. This was only in ninety six that we
531
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were trying to show him UFOs. He said he was
532
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:36.960
working for NASA. He designed parts for the Space Shuttle
533
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.640
and everything else, but he said he wasn't allowed to
534
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.359
deal with urflos. The next night, I never got in
535
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.839
touch with him. Called his house for three days. I
536
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:47.759
kept him in his recording, called the school up. His
537
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.640
kids were gone, they didn't come to school, and I
538
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:52.960
found they left the recording on. For a year, I
539
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.359
worked for the phone company, and I found out the
540
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.599
phone line was shut down, but it was left open
541
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for anybody calling his number. And I used to call
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00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.240
once a week. Why don't you let him go? I
543
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.119
know you got him. What are you doing to him?
544
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.920
Why can't you let him go? He doesn't know nothing,
545
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.279
he's not a UFO person, and they never I never
546
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.240
heard from him again since that. But again, what you're saying,
547
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.759
it is hard, But that's why they have to let
548
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.640
all these people with programmed ideas out there. It's owing
549
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:21.039
more junk on top of whatever could be real or
550
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.480
whatever is real. I worked with you name him. I
551
00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:28.960
dealt with the top UFO people for i'd say about
552
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.279
thirty years. I mean Larry Warren who wrote lefted Eskate.
553
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.359
I was with him the month before he released his book.
554
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.000
These people have incredible stories his books. He actually did
555
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.880
a video a show on the History Channel when he
556
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.920
was at the base when the ship came over it. Now,
557
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.400
the captain, the general, all these different people came out
558
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.359
admitted touching the UFO and all these different things. So
559
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even that's not real public even though it's there, they
560
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.680
admitted it. Now. I won't say per his name. She's
561
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on coast to coast all the time and talks about
562
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.839
the story. And she kept the story going for like
563
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.039
six years. And it wasn't herd that broke the story.
564
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It was the person that came out that was the
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general captain at the time. It says, yeah, the ship
566
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was there and he touched it. Uh. And I mean,
567
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.079
Larry Warren is an incredible person, but it took him
568
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:21.759
ten years to get his own name back because once
569
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he got thrown out of the army. Uh, they stripped
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everything in solid security and everything about him.
571
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You've got to ask yourself, are these credible people? If
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they're if they want to actually and they do violate
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their their oath, Like, how can we trust anything? Well,
574
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you say, how can you trust a trust?
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Let me say this, I don't believe they're I mean
576
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the word credibility to the average person means doctor. You
577
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.079
have to have a dr in front of you.
578
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.839
Oh no, no, you don't have to have a doctor
579
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in front of your name. To be credible, you.
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Have to be in the court of what good Sorry,
581
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come on.
582
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I was in law enforcement for a number of years.
583
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I saw I saw a number of a fast number
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of credible people in court giving testimony expert witness expert
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experts in and they weren't doctors.
586
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Here's here's the problem to that, all right, I'll explain
587
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:31.039
it two ways. Anybody that gets abducted for real, that
588
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has a bad dream or has a bad vision, did
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00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.400
a bad drug or whatever. Somebody that was taken in
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a ship for real, like Walter Travis, somebody that was
591
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there and yes, sorry I got dyslexy. Sorry I was
592
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.960
regress everything, all right, But he uh had witnesses. The
593
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whole thing. What I'm saying is once you get abducted,
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like my best friend, I worked with hypnosis who her
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for a couple of years, years after she stopped working
596
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.119
with Bud Hopkins. But uh, your mind will never be
597
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:07.039
the same as it was before it happened. Ever, But
598
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no matter what you do, what drug you take. I mean,
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I've been working with abductees for a long time now,
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but one of them.
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Has hypnosis isn't recognized. Hypnosis isn't recognized because if it was,
602
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it could be used in court. And it's not because the.
603
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Reason because wait, wait, wait because the reason.
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Wait a second year reason why? The reason why is
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because the person who is doing the the conducting the
606
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:40.279
hypnosis session can actually sway the person who is under hypnosis,
607
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.839
or you know, it's it's not a science.
608
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.079
Wait wait, I understand. Wait wait no, you say it's
609
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not a science. Of course they say it's not a science.
610
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.480
Let me say why. Here's something that's a fact, and
611
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.960
I could tell you for a fact that it's true unhypnosis.
612
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If the person gets hypnotized, i'man hypnotized not playing the
613
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.359
game that he hypnotized, you can make him do anything.
614
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:09.640
You can make him. Tell any person that's hypnotized, you
615
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:12.000
can make them do anything that you want them to do.
616
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:17.559
Hypnotism can't. Hypnotists can't say they can do that because
617
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.480
then it would be a danger to the world. Same
618
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.480
as wait wait, wait, let me finish this. The hypnotist
619
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I worked with was an army hypnotist. He worked in
620
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the army in World War Two. He was proving that
621
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if he hypnotized somebody, they would go out and shoot
622
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.240
their brother, their sister, shoot their child. They would do
623
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.799
anything that they were programmed to do, like the person
624
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.200
that killed John Lennon, person that killed Ozzy Oswall. I
625
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.519
mean their programs that are stuck in their mind. They
626
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.079
cannot do anything about it if they're hypnotized by a
627
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.000
good hypnotist that knows what he's doing. Second, the wall,
628
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we have entity go ahead.
629
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Sorry, I'm trying to figure out who Ozzy Oswald.
630
00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:02.759
Is Oswell, sorry, person kill the assassinated person that killed
631
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:08.599
Kennedy Lee Harvey Oswald. Right, Sorry, I'm very bad with names.
632
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.440
Good thing to caught me. But what I was trying
633
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:15.960
to say is when you hypnotize somebody, if you hypnotize them, right,
634
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they only hear your thought. You reprogram what they're gonna see.
635
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.280
If they're gonna shoot your brother, you don't say you're
636
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.199
gonna shoot your brother. You're gonna say you're gonna shoot
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00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.239
this alien being or this creature or this a clone
638
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.360
of a person that's trying to take over your body,
639
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.519
your son, your brother's life. And you recreate an idea
640
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.320
that they believe. And that's what aliens have to do
641
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.559
when they hit, when they when they take somebody, they
642
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.480
put a program in them. Ninety percent of all alien
643
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:41.639
abductees and there's a conference coming up in two months
644
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:48.039
called Alien con con Abductor Experiences Conference. It's going to
645
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.039
be a program, a serious program. They're gonna do the
646
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.760
people that were already programmed. But when I work with
647
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.719
these people, I work from a spiritual level, and very
648
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.519
few hypnotists can do that either. And I'll say one thing,
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00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:04.320
no doctor, no psychiatrists will agree on aliens will agree
650
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:08.440
on abduction and agree on possession. So those things that
651
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:10.920
are real that mankind will not accept because they don't
652
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.039
want to can't be brought into reality. And then otherwise
653
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.719
too many people would get off from being murderers and this,
654
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:18.599
that and the other thing, And well Anellien made them
655
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.320
do it, or that's true, or.
656
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Is it because these things really do not exist in
657
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the mind of a rational person, that these are phobias,
658
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.320
they're psychiatric problems.
659
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.440
Well, when a four year old gets possessed, all right,
660
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.800
when a child gets possessed by a DNA, I can
661
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.840
tell you multiple stories of sexual problems and things like that.
662
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.320
For me personally, I experience multiple things to prove that
663
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at every level, like even past life regression, which I do,
664
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.920
and regression being aware of your past lives. I was
665
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.880
eleven years old, I never saw any woman. I had
666
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.079
a dream, the vision, whatever, it was a past life,
667
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.760
which I learned later. I was married to a Japanese
668
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.519
woman and was having sex with her. I was eleven
669
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years old and never saw a naked body. I didn't
670
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:14.760
even see naked body until months later when I saw
671
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.079
my first Playboy magazine. And then it started trying to
672
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.679
relate to what my dream was about my experience because
673
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.599
I was shaking and crying when I woke up. I
674
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.039
had no idea what it was. I mean. But again,
675
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.800
when a person experiences something, something that they couldn't have
676
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been told the program, which most people do, most killed
677
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in a program by what their body. Even in the
678
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.679
body a child hears what's going around them. They feel
679
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.239
the vibration and the energy of things that are around them.
680
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I've dealt with every aspect of these things at so
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many different levels, so many different people. Again, when a
682
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.880
person's abducted and an alien takes them into their ship,
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they've given the program. And that's the only reason why
684
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.760
the government in the beginning allowed them to abook so
685
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.880
many people is because they were not supposed to remember
686
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.800
anything that happened. Now, even the astronaut I'm there with names,
687
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I had them on my show, but he said that
688
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.280
everybody's going to be abdupted twice in their life. And
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this is the astronaut.
690
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When you talk when you when you talk about your show,
691
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what network was it on or was it an internet show?
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There was freedom slips dot com, oh.
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An internet an internet audio show, an internet radio?
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Yeah, internet radio show. I did a few. I did
695
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a few TV shows as well, But again I was
696
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dealing with multiple people. And I worked with hypnosis all
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my life. And like what people say, Well, you can't
698
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make anybody do anything they don't want to, And I said,
699
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that's a total lie. If they get hypnotize the first
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thing you do, you can make your on the bar
701
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steel and then when you push on their hand, if
702
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you can't with ther whole body up, they're faking. It's
703
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.599
that simple because you cannot do that with your physical mind.
704
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So this test that you can do to people right
705
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away to make sure that they're hypnotized. Uh, even Americans
706
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got talent. They had a hypnotist come on and he
707
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hypnotized Howie to do things that he would never have done.
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But the next time he came out, he put somebody
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on and they couldn't hypnotize them, and they just threw
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them off the stage. But hypnosis is only geared to
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people that are able to be hypnotized, and not everybody can.
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So is it fair to say that hypnosis only works
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on weak minded persons?
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That's true.
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So a person who doesn't, who has a weak mind,
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who may have problems separating reality from fantasy as.
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Well, well, that's kind of true. But here's what the
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hypnotist that the Army hypnotist I work with said, his
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name was Malprotus. He said to me, if you work
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with a person that's doing drugs and you hypnotize them,
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because he was doing people in the Army. He says
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a lot of times these guys were on drugs and
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when he hypnotized them, they wouldn't come back. And he
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even there for a week hypnotize until they decide to
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come back, because they treated it as a high. Once
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their body started feeling different, they treated it as a
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high and they didn't want to come back. He said,
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the worst thing to do is hypnotize anybody on drugs
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and make sure that they're not before you start. And
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this is what he also told me because I was
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a stage magician for half of my life and he
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wanted me to teach him stage magic. Uh not stage magic, magic.
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Www dot Adventures into the Strange dot com. Tell me,
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if these extraterrestrials are here, why don't they just make
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themselves known to everybody? Why all the cloak and dagger,
784
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why all the why all these separate selection, Why don't
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they just just land in front of the White House,
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in front of Parliament, hill On, Autowa, Buckingham Palace, you know,
787
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Red Square, the whole bit.
788
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Okay, here's the simple scenario for that. Why isn't the
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United States, Russia, China, Germany, France, Italy, every country friends
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with the gunment?
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All right?
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We have we have seven races coming to this planet
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outside of the supposedly good ones. All right, they're fighting
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right now. They've been fighting since our guvernment's been fighting
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with them. I know. I mean, people don't have to
796
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accept it. But the guvernment's been working with them as well.
797
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How do you know?
798
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I mean, even the whistle blowing.
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How do you know?
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00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:35.559
How do I know? Yeah?
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You said you said earlier that if a person says
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something and they can't prove it, they're lying. So tell
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me how can you prove it?
804
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Because I stood next to an alien I saw the
805
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ship take off.
806
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Do you have any photos I have my I was
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eleven years old.
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My best friend was with me when we saw it.
809
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I have a lot of wait, wait, wait, let me
810
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say this. I have a lot of pictures on my
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site of a couple of ships that I shot that
812
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was like two feet from me, above us, different things.
813
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We have a ship that's bigger than the Empire State
814
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Building in back of the Empire State Building. We shot
815
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from forty five miles away. I mean, I have pictures.
816
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We had thousands of pictures. Nobody wanted to see pictures.
817
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And I'm talking in ninety six because everybody wasn't making
818
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pictures and silouetting pictures of UFOs over things and everything else.
819
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They were all real. We had one of the best
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pictures of a UFO blown up in New York City
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by one of the top labs a thousand times, and
822
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they measured the pixels and me. The only thing he
823
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could say is it was never tampered with. It was
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an actual photograph. That's all he could say. It's an
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unidentified object, so that's all he would give us.
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All right, So you're an eleven year old child. You're
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an eleven year old child with a I would imagine
828
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you're very artistic.
829
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Well I wouldn't say I was artistic. I was smart.
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Okay for a word, I mean I.
831
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Would you would you say that you have had a
832
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vivid imagination.
833
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Well I wouldn't. I had an imagination. I didn't imagine things.
834
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I didn't try to imagine things. Things just came to
835
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me and I was showing things. Was like, okay, when
836
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I was a witch, when I was sixteen, I could
837
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put a spell or do something and watch somebody go flying.
838
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I mean I could say something and watch within two days.
839
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All right, Russ, Just to show you when you don't
840
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control it, all right, how Rulu witchcraft and work and
841
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energy works. I was in the fun company, sitting in
842
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the thing, and I love fishing and if one guy
843
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comes through or I went fishing up Brown Valley in Jersey.
844
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I caught six trout. I said, you're only allowed to
845
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keep two, but we just stuck them in the freezer
846
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and took them. I said, that's karmer, and he said no,
847
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and I said, Spirit will pay you back. He was
848
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driving home on the highway smashed his car, went off
849
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the divide. He was laid up in the hospital for
850
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six months. He came back six months later, and then
851
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he had the nerve to do something and say something
852
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to me again. I said, well, Spirit's gonna watch protect
853
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the truth and you're gonna be sorry. And then all
854
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of a sudden bank he was back in the hospital
855
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for another three months, just just energy thoughts, which people say, well, oh,
856
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that's not really either. I studied. I didn't get into GOODU,
857
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but I was in people that would hire priests, Voodoo
858
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of Rulu Centeria and things like that. Jersey was the
859
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highest in Santaia. We walked in western New York. All
860
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the all the good of priests came in. They bought
861
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all the churches and created Santaia, another horrible religion because
862
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.400
because they do kill things. I mean they rented hotels
863
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and they would they would find fingers in the hotel rooms.
864
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And this is in Jersey, in Western York. Uh, and
865
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things like that. So I mean I dealt with every
866
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level of it. Getting back to myself personally, I knew
867
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what I was capable of doing. Then. Uh, I didn't
868
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want to say the really bad thing because I don't
869
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.000
want to have a reverb of people saying it. But
870
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it's probably the worst thing you could possibly think of.
871
00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.719
Then it happened directly within within three hours. So well,
872
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.320
was it a coincidence? Everything in life could be a coincidence,
873
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.679
the same as everything could be thought out and planned.
874
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.039
It's just a matter of how you want to relate
875
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:11.920
to it when it does happen, and how good of
876
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.800
the thought. Now on all these psychic people out there
877
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.679
claiming to work with aliens and angels, claiming all these
878
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:19.480
things that are going to happen in the next year,
879
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:25.239
I'm saying they're all dealing with entities, not Michael, Think Gabriel,
880
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.880
Michael and Metatron, Alphatron, all these different beings and angels.
881
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:33.320
We're dealing with demons or entities which have come in
882
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.519
since the Monto project opened up the Valtex, and people
883
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.280
will see it soon enough. Watch the world. Watch what's
884
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.760
going to happen. It will be destroyed in a great way.
885
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.800
I'm talking at least I see half of the planet
886
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.760
at least being destroyed, or we could never go into
887
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.239
the Golden Age, which will happen probably before twenty twenty.
888
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.000
But the destruction that will happen, I think it's going
889
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.239
to happen within three or four months starting anyway. I mean,
890
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.760
you can't already destroy the ocean. People don't even want
891
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.400
to look at that. The Fukushima wave has hit the
892
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.719
West coast and they're not doing a thing about it.
893
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.239
What can they do. They have to close everything down,
894
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.800
which they're not going to do yet. Nobody's talking about
895
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.719
what jade Helm's doing and they're not saying a word,
896
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.199
but they're prepared to do something. If people don't want
897
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.360
to be aware and look at the facts and say, well, no,
898
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:20.960
I pray everything's going to be okay. The angels are
899
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.960
protecting us. The allens are going to come down and
900
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.079
make us all spiritual beings, right, I'm against that completely.
901
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:28.920
No alien that I dealt with at any level, even
902
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:31.719
when I worked with the person that was possessed. Aliens
903
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:33.960
do possess people as well, in a different way than
904
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.119
than an entity. Would you know I possessions?
905
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.920
Oh, for the past forty minutes, you know you've come
906
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:47.239
across as as a person who is an expert in UFOs, spirits, bigfoot, aliens, angels, WICCA,
907
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.599
alien abduction entities. You know you've done so much.
908
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.840
Right, and why is that all that? Might?
909
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:04.800
From my partner, here's my question. Can you prove any
910
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:09.400
of this? Because you said if a person cannot prove it,
911
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:12.599
they're lying. So how can you prove this?
912
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.000
All? Right? Here's what? Okay? Do you know the name
913
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:16.880
Sean David Martin?
914
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:17.440
Sure?
915
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.360
He used to take people to the area fifty one
916
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.960
and what and right with a band and bring those
917
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.519
people to see the ships land there every two weeks
918
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:29.239
until the government caught them and then they bought all
919
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.800
that land around it. The same as we took people
920
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:34.559
up to one community, Jersey to see the things that
921
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:40.119
we saw up there. Famous people came there, I mean
922
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:42.840
the crystal skull was brotht there too as well, and
923
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:44.320
he wanted to see what would happen with the crystal
924
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:46.599
skull if he was put on that vortex. One of
925
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:48.360
the girls was laying on the ground in this ball
926
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:52.480
light just peered over whole body. Everybody saw it, So
927
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.320
I like when I didn't. When we were election around
928
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.079
the United States, we would bring people out at nighttime
929
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.599
and let them see the things as well. Now a
930
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.199
good friend of mine, Ed Grimsley, He's got twelve nighties
931
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.639
and glasses. He take people out at night time. He
932
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.760
just went on the cruise Who's thrown up to Alaska
933
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:11.960
and they take people and they let them see the
934
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:14.920
ships fighting in space. Right now, if I could get
935
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:16.920
somebody to come to my house, it's a good camera.
936
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.039
They can film a ship over my house almost every
937
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.840
other night when the sky's clear. I'm playing with it.
938
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.480
I'm blinking my side it. It's blinking back three times
939
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:27.119
and different things. I'm doing a lot of things, but
940
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.360
I can't get nobody. I have cheap cameras and I
941
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.519
just tried filming it. I can't get it. This camera
942
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.440
crew that I have there in Jersey, they'll come to
943
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.719
Arizona because that's where my other friend is being abducted
944
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:43.199
and actually actually killed. The Gray has the proof, wanting
945
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.719
to go public with everything that they have.
946
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:45.679
What kind of proof?
947
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.039
What was that?
948
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:47.039
What kind of proof?
949
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.159
He cut the alien half, He got the blood and
950
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.639
a piece of the alien, and they analyze it in
951
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.079
three different universities, analyze the blood, the sample of the skin,
952
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:00.360
and it's a documented story right now. So uh. And
953
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.760
the other thing is we have body parts of a
954
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bigfoot and we do have a frozen alien. So yeah,
955
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I want I don't want to do it. I'm not
956
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:12.320
doing it for the money.
957
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Uh.
958
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Two people need to do it for the money because
959
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.559
he find to sell as property. There's a vortext on
960
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.079
there and he's trying to get off of it. I'm
961
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.000
dealing with a medicine woman. I'm dealing with a whole
962
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.800
bunch of people right now with the money part of it,
963
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:26.639
like fitting together for somebody to pay.
964
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.239
Hey, Tommy, we've got to we've got to see so
965
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:33.039
long for tonight, Penal's Uh, it's been a challenge, I
966
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:36.480
mean a pleasure talking to you. I don't believe a
967
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:42.960
word you've said. I think that you shouldn't give up
968
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:49.920
on your meds. I don't know explanation. This is more
969
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:53.800
proof of why here on the X Zone some actually
970
00:52:53.920 --> 00:53:07.920
do bite the dust. Another one, are you a believer
971
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:11.079
or a skeptic? Send me an email xone at xon
972
00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:16.400
Radio TV dot com. Just imagine that somebody finds an alien.
973
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:20.159
They don't call CNN, they don't call Fox, they don't
974
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.559
call any major media. What they do is they cut
975
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:26.280
it in half. And of course they don't want to
976
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.320
make money. Oh no, they don't want to make money.
977
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They're scam artists for God's sake. And when it comes
978
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.719
to hypnosis, you can only hypnotize a person who wants
979
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.800
to be If a person does not want to be hypnotized,
980
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.639
you cannot do it. And I am living proof of that.
981
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:45.920
I'll lean back on the other side of this break
982
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:48.039
as we continue hearing the X Zone from our broadcast
983
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.079
center in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
984
00:53:51.679 --> 00:54:04.119
Another one, sit when you away. But you can hide
985
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.039
a man and bring it to the ground. You can
986
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.039
beat him, you can treat him and treat him barely,
987
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.400
leave them right his down day. But I'm ready get
988
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them redy for you. I'm standing, Oh my god,