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Let's go ahead, we'll get onto The Many Deaths of
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Laila Star.
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I had no idea this.
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Book existed, no clue this came out in twenty twenty two.
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It's always in the bookstore whenever I go look at
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the comic book section that like books of millions are
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Barnes and Nobles, I always see.
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Copies of this because this is the Issdor Award winning
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something or other, and.
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It's Boom Studios, and there's always a big collection of
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Boom Studio stuff. I want to say, like this for
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what it was sold pretty.
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Well, okay, well, ram v is our writer, artist, Felipe Andrade,
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lettered by and World Design.
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This is an interesting book.
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I love this book.
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The Many Deaths of Laila Star is a gorgeously illustrated,
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deeply human fable that blends myth, morality, and Mumbai into
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some both timeless and intimate. When the Goddess of Death
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is fired, her role made obsolete by the impending birth
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of a child destined to invent immortality, she's cast into
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a mortal body, and since spiraling through the boy's life
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at key moments, sometimes seeking to end him, other times
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trying to understand him. Across decades and reincarnations, Layla's journey
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becomes less about stopping death and more about learning what
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makes life precious in the first place. With poetic writing,
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vivid characters, and an emotional arc that lingers long after
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the final page, is a story for anyone who's ever
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pondered the value.
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Of a fleeting moment.
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I didn't know what I was going to be getting here,
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and when I started reading it, I was like, Okay,
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I like the premise of this book. We're starting out
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in Mumbai, we have various gods and goddesses, and here's
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death who is getting let go?
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I could see being made into a series or a movie.
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Yeah, this would be a fun time.
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It's kind of a bittersweet story because what we get
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at the end is a great message. She gets put
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into Layla Starr's body, and Layla at that moment is
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killing her. Well, I wouldn't say she killed herself. She
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either slipped or she jumped one or the other in
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this party. And that's kind of like where we see
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our cover here, where she's falling, and then as she
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hits the ground she's in the hospital and death ends
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up getting into her body, and then Hyjens and Sue
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after that, one of which I love how each situation
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each book she shows up and ends up getting killed
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in some way by the end of the book, and
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then awakening sometime later.
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Interesting interpretation on the idea of God coming down to
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earth like a Thor or Hercules, where it's just like,
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I don't really know how humanity works, that keeps fucking
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up and dying.
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Yeah, she has the baby in her hands, this baby
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that's going there the whole reason, the guy that's going
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to invent immortality, and she could kill him and she doesn't.
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It makes it kill a baby, kill a baby, So
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she puts the baby back down, and then of course
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the cops are like coming after because she was just
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dead if you minutes ago. She runs out and ends
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up getting hit by a bus. By the end of
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the issue, she's wakening by Prana I believe is his name,
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the God of life. But what has happened is time
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has passed and the kid has gotten older, and so
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each book is a stage in this kid's life. Darius
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is his name, and Layla goes to find Darius and
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possibly kill him. Prana's always like, hey, you got you
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still got some time? He's still out there, and she
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goes and then she ends up running into Ka the
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Crow or some kind of weird guide on her journey.
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By the end of this book, she finds Darius.
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At a very old age and he tells her, Yeah,
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I invented eternal life when I was forty nine. She
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finally sits down and talks to him after all this time,
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and he's like, you can have the secret to immortalities
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in the shoe box above my closet. And the only
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thing that he wants he's this old bearded man, is
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for his on to come back because they had a
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falling out. His mom had died. But the journey to
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get to there is great. I want to let you
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talk here first. What are your thoughts on this book?
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I love this book.
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This is one of my favorite things that you and
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I have ever talked about, completely out of left field.
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It is beautifully colored and illustrated. I love the color
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palette in this. I can see why I got linked
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with the Crow. It's kind of the through the looking
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glass version of the Crow. In the sense that it
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also deals with death and its implications, but instead of
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a Gothic way, a colorful, ethereal fantasy, vibrant pixie way.
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I like use of traditional Indian esthetic. That's a nice
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change of pace. See why this didn't do well in
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the United States. I love this concept of death as
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a job. And she's been fired and she's self motivated,
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but also not used to being a mortal, so she
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keeps having problems.
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Like I told you, I.
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Don't really want to do a lot of hero stuff anymore,
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but she has the hurdles a hero would have to
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overcome in order to achieve their hero's journey. There are
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the conversation she has with him when he's middle aged
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and he's real bitter.
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This is really good stuff. That's a good dramatic conversation.
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Oh yeah, I love the conclusion. I usually interested in
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what was going on in this book.
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I was so fascinated by it.
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I liked a lot of the Indian theological imagery.
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Had a really good time with this. I wish more
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people knew about it.
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I'll tell you my favorite moment of this whole book
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is book four is year when she shows up and
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I think at that moment, he's thirty eight years.
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Old, yeah, and he was saying like that conversation.
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She walks in there just after his wife had died,
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and she explains, Okay, here's the deal. I'm just going
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to try to talk you out of doing this. I
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don't want to kill you. I just don't want you
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to create eternal life, and he is not having any
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of it because what he starts to realize is that
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she had been there at other moments in his life,
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right around when somebody else died, and he is outraged
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because he doesn't understand why death had taken his wife.
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It's such a moving conversation where she just sits down
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and tries she didn't have anything to do with the
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death of his wife. She's sitting down here on earth
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right now, people are still dying regardless. That conversation that
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she has with Darius, and Darius is just like you
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are the right now because you are here. I just
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want to let you know you are the reason I
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am going to invent eternal life.
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I'm going to do it.
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We're not going to have to worry about death anymore.
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So she realizes she's pushed him to do exactly what
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she didn't want him to do in.
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The first Yeah, paradox where something from a different area
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in time causes you to do the thing that you're doing.
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Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
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Now he's actually set on this path and she ends
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up getting I cannot remember what happens in this case
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to where she dies. When she wakes up again, he's
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an old man. That's where she finds out he had
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made the secret to eternal life, he just never shared
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it with anybody. So there's a lot there's a lot
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of like deep thought. There's a lot of like dealing
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with death and the meaning of life in this book.
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It's a great commentary, a great story about it. I
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got a few questions here for you. Do you think
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death is what gives life meaning or could life still
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have meaning without it?
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Dude, We've been exploring that kind of thing, like vampire
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lore and other elements of fiction. Over the course of
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doing podcasting, I brought up a concept of the long tail.
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When there is scarcity, there is value in the meaning.
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When there is no scarcity, when there is limitless infinite
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shelf space, it starts to have no value. I think
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the same can be said of the human experience. When
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life is forcibly precious, it's that much more valuable. I'm
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fifty b fifty in one more year, and I've only
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got probably another twenty five thirty years left.
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I look back at the previous fifteenth.
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For the first eighteen to twenty, I didn't have a
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lot of choice. But for the past thirty I've had
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a lot of choices. Some of it didn't work out
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the way I thought it was going to, and I
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thought I was making the best decisions at the time.
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I'm very conscious of how I want to spend the
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next thirty because that might be my last. I think
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that kind of mentality. You know, again, you're asking what
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do you think death makes life more valuable worth living?
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I'm like absolutely, Having already died almost twice because of cancer.
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It was a reminder that life is a precious gift
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and it's worth trying to live the best life you're
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able to. IM a real struggle with people who are
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very quick to say your life is not valuable because
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you disagree with me, you hold different values. That's one
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of the things I picked out of the book, too,
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was this discussion of the value of life and how
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that changes when you're an infinite being. I was thinking
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about Interview with the Vampire. Some of the stuff that
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gets discussed in that book is like after a while,
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internal life is agonizing, you know, or some of the
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stuff we talked about with Black Mirror, where you have
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his infinite life living in a computer simulation, right, and
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is what torture that is?
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I don't think the mind is meant to experience infinite Yeah.
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I think death absolutely gives life meaning without it.
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This is just my opinion.
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But without death, what purpose do you serve? I'm sure
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you can do something, but you don't have to.
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It changes your decision making, doesn't it. Yeah, absolutely use
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this because this has consequences, and that doesn't What if
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there are no consequences, what would you do?
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This is a great question that ties in with the
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type of work that you do. Have you ever seen
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someone's grief like Darius's after Manaka's death push them to
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try to change the world for better or for worse?
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Isn't that like the whole mister Freeze thing? Like, he
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isn't mister Freeze without the death of his beloved.
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This is a tails all his time in books Yeah,
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this is somebody loses somebody, there's some type of tragedy,
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and that we are going to change the world in
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some way in I R. L.
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Mark.
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Have you ever seen anybody lose somebody or experience Yeah, and.
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Like industrial light and magic. No, that's il M, I
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l M in real life? Got it?
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Yeah, I guess I don't know how much I've seen
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that in my therapeutic work, only because they may not
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have mentioned it. Okay, but here's what I'll tell you.
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You've brought it up before, and I didn't want to
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continually interrupt you, so I just kept it to myself.
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But I was thinking about a patient that I've dealt
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with who experienced the death of a child, like an infant.
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He was already affected by various traumas in his life,
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but the death of his infant really pushed him over
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the edge, and a lot of it was just sort
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of the world's not making sense.
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He was.
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He was a church going guy, you know, the kind
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of guy that goes on religious missions, that sort of thing.
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Just a good, honest, hard work in American husband and father,
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you know, all those things that we aspire to be
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as men. He's that guy and then this happens, and
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it's just like his grasp of a sensical world where
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he can operate and have some degree of predictability shatters.
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What world?
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Is it? Right and good for God to take your
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infant child? When the world stops making sense? Why bother
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to participate in it? Two things about that. Studies show
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that infants toddlers, if you put a show on and
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it has a narrative flow to it, they will pay
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attention for however long a toddler pays attention to anything.
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up into nonsense to where it has no narrative flow,
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toddlers won't pay attention at all.
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To participate in a world that has flow and makes
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sense and has consequences for actions. And again, think about
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any game you've ever played, Like you played D and D. Right, Yes,
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would D ANDD be enjoyable if the DM played by
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his own rules and dice rolls changed, what they attributes
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changed Suddenly, whatever the DM is doing, he can just
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change it out of whyen it wouldn't be fun anymore? Right,
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same principle?
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Yeah, personally, I don't know if I've I know a
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few people that have lost I mean the first person
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that I can earn, first person, the first type of
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person I can think of somebody who loses somebody to
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cancer is now like, Okay, I'm going to go cure cancer.
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I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that
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think they're going to do something but probably take it
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down to a more realistic level like Okay, well I'm
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going to start a foundation to fund the research in
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order to cure cancer or things like that.
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I think changing the world's a big deal.
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So the fella in the thing is just what we
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didn't God ask Abraham to sacrifice to send to him
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because he needed his test as loyalty, because he didn't
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know there's a lot that God is very insecure in
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the Old Testament. He gets called up with a devil
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and focks job over. You know, it's just a oh,
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it's only loyal because you give him such great things.
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The Devil's just like you're so easy God. He's bringing
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up to think about Abraham. You know, it's just like
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I need to test your loyalty. Your loyal servants. Get
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Kat Williams out here. This is me, Kat Williams, your
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humble servant.
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I want to ask you about Layla and her putting
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the shoe box in the ocean at the very end.
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What was your thoughts there?
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of like, I'm done with this.
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Now I can distance myself from it.
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I can say goodbye to this thing that has been
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controlling my feelings, my emotions, my decision making. Let's go
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back to that bubbles line, you know, like it's okay
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to grieve as long as you make room for other things.
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I have this thing and I'm ready to set it free.
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You sit with your grief or your trauma long enough
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for you to deal with it, and then you can
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release it and set it free. I think it's like
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a metaphor for forgiveness. Ted Lass'll line to Jamie in
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the second third season where he's like, what would you say?
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What would you say to your dad if you were
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here right now? He was just like thank you and
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fuck you? And they were talking about forgiveness. He was like,
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would you forgive your dad? And he was like, I
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wouldn't forgive him because fuck that guy. And he was
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just like, you're not giving it to your dad, You're
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giving it to yourself.
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reason she set up out on this journey was to
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make sure that the formula of eternal life does not
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get found. And I mean, I guess when she sets
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it out on the sea, I see it sitting in
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a shoe box and like, well, it's just going to
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sink to the bottom of the seat. That's the first
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thing that goes through my mind. But you don't see
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that happen. You see it floating, which is more kind
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of like ambiguous that oh, maybe somebody could come by
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and pick it up. It's floating out to see. My
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interpretation was like, Okay, she has this thing that she's
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been chasing after this whole time. She's went through this
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whole process, learned so much, and now she is allowing
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fate to kind of decide as to what's going on.
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Happened.
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That was my interpret I talk a lot about control,
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and control is linked to anxiety, and sometimes you have
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to give up trying to control the things you can't control.
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This thing was not hers and she said it free
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and she's like, whatever happens to what happens to it.
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Right, That's kind of what I thought, and I asked
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when I was working through my thoughts with Chadgybt, I said,
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this is the thing that that felt revelatory to me.
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But I said, what is it that I missed that?
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Can you look through the stuff? Is there some stuff
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that I missed? And this is what it came up
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with And it makes complete sense to me. So it
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says you saw it as her letting fate decide, but
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there's a deeper layer. By neither destroying nor using the formula,
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she's stepping outside.
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Of the role of judge.
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Yeah, it's almost an admission that she doesn't have the
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right to decide for everyone else.
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That's a huge shift for someone who used to decide
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when everyone died?
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Can I read this here?
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Absolutely?
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The Many test Lay of the Star by Ramby and
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Philippie Andrade, a modern fable draped in color whimsy.
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Whimsy is the word I was looking for earlier.
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I like wimsy and philosophical reflection where the crow confronts
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death from the perspective of someone who has been wronged
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and cannot move on. Laylis Star takes us to the
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other side of the veil entirely Here death herself is
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fired from her cosmics job because humanity is on the
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verge of discovering immortality. Stripped of her power, She's reincarnated
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as Lailas Star, a mortal woman living in Mumbai.
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The book follows her.
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She repeatedly dies and returns, each time intersecting with the
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life of the boy Destined and if the Crow is
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wrought jagged grief, Laylistar is a lyrical conversation about acceptance.
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That's why I wanted to read this who That's good.
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It's not about avenging the dead, It's about understanding that
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mortality is what gives life meaning in the first place.
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Ramby's writing is poetic without losing clarity, Andret's art is
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a washing callers. I feel alive through the page itself
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is breathing. Through her encounters with the boy at various
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stages of his life, Layla moves from bitterness and resentment
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towards compassion and understanding. It's the long arc of acceptance
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that the Crow never attempts, because that book is about
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refusing to let go that.
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Fifth issue of this story when we open up and
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there's a dog they find and they're like, take it
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to the old man who who you.
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Know he's able to take care of people. I'm like,
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oh crap.
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My initial thought was Darius had grown old and is
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selectively using the formula. That doesn't happen here. But I
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felt like, oh crap, he actually has it. But yeah,
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when they show up, she talks with them, They and
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he explains to her, Yeah, I never used it because
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I just felt there was no sense in it. It's
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neat how he describes, like after he invented it, he
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goes and watches a movie. He goes and does this,
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and I think he starts to realize all these things
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that people do to make themselves happy because they are trying.
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To live their life.
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The removing death would make life without meaning. And he
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himself has an inoperable brain tumor at the end of this,
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and he ends up calling a son over.
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They kind of make amends, and here's the final line.
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I'll read it to you, Mark.
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Perhaps it is enough the miracle that it was plea
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to have lived what a way feel like that sentence
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was written before this story even began.
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I mean, it's funny. It's funny, you should focus on that.
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There's a conversation at my dinner table tonight with me
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and my kids before I took them back to their
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mom and it was a I was talking about choices
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you make in the world and whether you choose to
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live and make mistakes or if you'd restrict everything in
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the hopes there's something in the afterlife for you. This
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is a motivating factor for some of our you know,
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I don't want to talk about Robert, but you know,
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there are people who believe, such as Robert does, that
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if you leave a chaste life in you know, in
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the afterlife, you will be rewarded with you know, with paradise.
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Right.
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However, there's people like me who what a waste of
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life to not live it. I almost feel like it's
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antithetical to the definition of life. Life is to be lived,
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Life is to be enjoyed. Should you make some sacrifices,
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should you not given to every single whom you have? Yes,
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you should absolutely find the place in the middle of
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enjoyment and restriction. I think that's everyone's kind of personal journey.
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My struggle with Robert and people who believe the way
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that he does, not him personally, but the belief in
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and of itself is yes, it is entirely dependent on faith,
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which is not necessarily the thing I want to attack.
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But more of why does it have to be zero sum,
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Like you have to have the worst life on earth
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in order to have the.
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Best life after earth afterwards?
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Yeah, why can't you do both? Why can't you make
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the most of the life that you've been blessed with
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and then if something happens in the afterlife where you're
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also rewarded. Okay, great, I don't understand why, Like it's
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a moral lesson, it's a civilizing lesson of don't be
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an animal, you know, But I don't. I was telling
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you before, like I made the Fraudiyavlo album and such
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unadults rated joy listening to some of his music. Yeah,
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I don't want to live my life without joy. I
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don't want to live in my life without love. So
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you know, it's going back to the Layla Star thing.
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I do think that there is room in this world
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to experience those things and not live the most chase
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life ever for the promise of something better in the afterlife.
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Right, which is good.
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The conversation I had with my kids earlier, Yeah, yeah,
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they come away with it going.
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You're right, Dan. There was a lot of ideas being
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bandied about, but that was my take. That's good.
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No, their take was why did you make two pork
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chops a piece? Or do you think we are this
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is a giant of food Psycho? That was their take.
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Two pork chops a piece?
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There small pork chops? What if their mother doesn't feed them?
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Jesse what it's a constant fear. I get it.
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As far as the many deaths of Layla Star. If
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you are somebody that has an open mind that you're
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interested in thoughtful, spiritual or philosophical.
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This is not a big guns book, Chris Bailey.
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This is something that has a bit of a message,
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a bit of a take on life.
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And death and spefulness to it.
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It's a good story wrapped in somewhat of a message.
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If you get a chance. I'm glad it's out there
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and a lot of people have it sitting on the shelves.
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They should be able to pick it up and read it.
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It's a good book. So there it is. Mark, We
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did it. We made it through all three books. So
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let's get into plugs.
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Well, if you're watching the live feed tomorrow, we're reviewing
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more of the Worlds, and then Tuesday, Alexis and Robert
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and Jason are going to talk weapons. And then Thursday,
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myself and you and maybe Andrew and who knows who else,
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we'll be concluding our look at the West Wing. Next
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week Sunday we're reviewing Baby Metal, and then Night Always Comes,
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which is a Netflix movie, and then myself and Alexis
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are reviewing Resident Alien season four. And then on Thursday,
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I think it's me and Mick and we're going to
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be looking at some Netflix movies, a Fear Street prom Queen,
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the Old Guard two, and Fountain of Youth.
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Which is did you watch all the other fearstream movies?
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A couple of years ago, Ronnie and Sean and I
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did a long Road to ruin on them.
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Got it okay? All right?
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So check me out on TikTok. I take these podcasts
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that we do, and I kind of do one to
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two minute face forward reads something up what we talked about.
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They also do reactions to news stories that are getting
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longer every day. But what I've started is Ratalist University
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which is basically I taking my good Reads list and
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I made a link tree out of it to Amazon.
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I'm doing advertisements for books that have shaped the person
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I am. I told you like, after nine to eleven,
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I started reading a lot of nonfiction and I would
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read in bulk like my own personal college audit. So
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I went back through my good Reads list and one
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by one, I'm doing kind of tiktoks on all of
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these books that I've read. And it's called rattlest University.
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Because I am a mester of branding. I have these
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big idea pieces. I've been talking a lot about AI
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and real estate. I have child care tips, the child
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rearing tips and historical stuff.
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Some of it goes viral some of it. And more
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than anything, I.
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Need to get ten thousand followers because it's the only
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way to make money with TikTok learn how to sell
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products of the TikTok shop. And I have not mastered
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that tale not at.
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All, actually old TikTok shop.
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All right, I don't know if you mentioned this or not,
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but Wednesday, did you mention what's going on Wednesday with
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me and alexis hanging out and talking to stranger things?
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Having Wednesday, I believe, so, unless I'm missing it somewhere,
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I think it's going to be happening this Wednesday.
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It'll be season one of Stranger Things.
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Me and Alexis getting together and I don't know if
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she's having anybody else on there or not, but we're
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gonna have a good time talking about that previous week.
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Previous Monday, it was me Al Sadano getting together talking
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about the third volume of Quantum and Woody I knew,
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and Woody Yeah, it was fun. It was a lot
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of fun. There was a goat involved, so as always.
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The Goats Day of the Swollen Goat.
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Tomorrow, I'm smoking Issues Returns.
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It's the nineties comics centric podcast on the Source Material
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Comics Feed. There we're gonna be talking about that Phantom.
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We're gonna be talking about Fantastic four number three seventy one,
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which we're in the middle of Gimmick cover summer, and
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that is the Fantastic four issue where it was just
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completely white and Johnny Storm went nova. It wouldn't have
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looked like it was on fire if it wasn't for
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the fact that we had Sue Storm in the boob
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window with fantastic with the four right there on our chest. Yeah,
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and that was the introduction of that outfit.
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So hey.
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And then our next source material is September fourteenth. We're
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gonna talk Day Tripper, just Day Tripper, Day Tripper twelve issues,
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because I'm not allowed to do that anymore.
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It'll be three episodes of four Yes, we can do it.
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Me and Evan Bevins get together and talk about Marvel snaps.
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If you like Marvel Snap, that'll show up on the
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source material comics feed as well. It's called snap Material.
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I'm an expert at branding as well.
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Well. That being said, let's get on out of here.
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Mark Radleys, thanks for joining me tonight. I'm Jesse Starter.
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Have a good one bye bye.
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Yes, all of this would not be possible without W
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I had no idea this.
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Book existed, no clue this came out in twenty twenty two.
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It's always in the bookstore whenever I go look at
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the comic book section that like books of millions are
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Barnes and Nobles, I always see.
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Copies of this because this is the Issdor Award winning
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something or other, and.
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It's Boom Studios, and there's always a big collection of
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Boom Studio stuff. I want to say, like this for
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what it was sold pretty.
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Well, okay, well, ram v is our writer, artist, Felipe Andrade,
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lettered by and World Design.
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This is an interesting book.
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I love this book.
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The Many Deaths of Laila Star is a gorgeously illustrated,
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deeply human fable that blends myth, morality, and Mumbai into
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some both timeless and intimate. When the Goddess of Death
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is fired, her role made obsolete by the impending birth
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of a child destined to invent immortality, she's cast into
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a mortal body, and since spiraling through the boy's life
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at key moments, sometimes seeking to end him, other times
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trying to understand him. Across decades and reincarnations, Layla's journey
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becomes less about stopping death and more about learning what
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makes life precious in the first place. With poetic writing,
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vivid characters, and an emotional arc that lingers long after
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the final page, is a story for anyone who's ever
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pondered the value.
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Of a fleeting moment.
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I didn't know what I was going to be getting here,
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and when I started reading it, I was like, Okay,
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I like the premise of this book. We're starting out
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in Mumbai, we have various gods and goddesses, and here's
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death who is getting let go?
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I could see being made into a series or a movie.
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Yeah, this would be a fun time.
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It's kind of a bittersweet story because what we get
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at the end is a great message. She gets put
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into Layla Starr's body, and Layla at that moment is
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killing her. Well, I wouldn't say she killed herself. She
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either slipped or she jumped one or the other in
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this party. And that's kind of like where we see
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our cover here, where she's falling, and then as she
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hits the ground she's in the hospital and death ends
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up getting into her body, and then Hyjens and Sue
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after that, one of which I love how each situation
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each book she shows up and ends up getting killed
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in some way by the end of the book, and
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then awakening sometime later.
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Interesting interpretation on the idea of God coming down to
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earth like a Thor or Hercules, where it's just like,
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I don't really know how humanity works, that keeps fucking
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up and dying.
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that's going there the whole reason, the guy that's going
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to invent immortality, and she could kill him and she doesn't.
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It makes it kill a baby, kill a baby, So
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she puts the baby back down, and then of course
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the cops are like coming after because she was just
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dead if you minutes ago. She runs out and ends
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up getting hit by a bus. By the end of
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the issue, she's wakening by Prana I believe is his name,
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the God of life. But what has happened is time
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has passed and the kid has gotten older, and so
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each book is a stage in this kid's life. Darius
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is his name, and Layla goes to find Darius and
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possibly kill him. Prana's always like, hey, you got you
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still got some time? He's still out there, and she
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goes and then she ends up running into Ka the
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Crow or some kind of weird guide on her journey.
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By the end of this book, she finds Darius.
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At a very old age and he tells her, Yeah,
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I invented eternal life when I was forty nine. She
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finally sits down and talks to him after all this time,
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and he's like, you can have the secret to immortalities
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in the shoe box above my closet. And the only
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thing that he wants he's this old bearded man, is
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for his on to come back because they had a
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falling out. His mom had died. But the journey to
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get to there is great. I want to let you
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talk here first. What are your thoughts on this book?
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I love this book.
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This is one of my favorite things that you and
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I have ever talked about, completely out of left field.
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It is beautifully colored and illustrated. I love the color
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palette in this. I can see why I got linked
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with the Crow. It's kind of the through the looking
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glass version of the Crow. In the sense that it
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also deals with death and its implications, but instead of
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a Gothic way, a colorful, ethereal fantasy, vibrant pixie way.
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I like use of traditional Indian esthetic. That's a nice
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change of pace. See why this didn't do well in
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the United States. I love this concept of death as
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a job. And she's been fired and she's self motivated,
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but also not used to being a mortal, so she
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keeps having problems.
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Like I told you, I.
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Don't really want to do a lot of hero stuff anymore,
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but she has the hurdles a hero would have to
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overcome in order to achieve their hero's journey. There are
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the conversation she has with him when he's middle aged
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and he's real bitter.
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This is really good stuff. That's a good dramatic conversation.
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Oh yeah, I love the conclusion. I usually interested in
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what was going on in this book.
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I was so fascinated by it.
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I liked a lot of the Indian theological imagery.
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Had a really good time with this. I wish more
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people knew about it.
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I'll tell you my favorite moment of this whole book
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is book four is year when she shows up and
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I think at that moment, he's thirty eight years.
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Old, yeah, and he was saying like that conversation.
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Yeah.
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She walks in there just after his wife had died,
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and she explains, Okay, here's the deal. I'm just going
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to try to talk you out of doing this. I
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don't want to kill you. I just don't want you
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to create eternal life, and he is not having any
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of it because what he starts to realize is that
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she had been there at other moments in his life,
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right around when somebody else died, and he is outraged
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because he doesn't understand why death had taken his wife.
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It's such a moving conversation where she just sits down
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and tries she didn't have anything to do with the
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death of his wife. She's sitting down here on earth
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right now, people are still dying regardless. That conversation that
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she has with Darius, and Darius is just like you
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are the right now because you are here. I just
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want to let you know you are the reason I
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am going to invent eternal life.
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I'm going to do it.
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We're not going to have to worry about death anymore.
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So she realizes she's pushed him to do exactly what
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she didn't want him to do in.
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The first Yeah, paradox where something from a different area
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in time causes you to do the thing that you're doing.
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Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
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Now he's actually set on this path and she ends
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up getting I cannot remember what happens in this case
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to where she dies. When she wakes up again, he's
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an old man. That's where she finds out he had
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made the secret to eternal life, he just never shared
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it with anybody. So there's a lot there's a lot
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of like deep thought. There's a lot of like dealing
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with death and the meaning of life in this book.
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It's a great commentary, a great story about it. I
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got a few questions here for you. Do you think
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death is what gives life meaning or could life still
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have meaning without it?
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Dude, We've been exploring that kind of thing, like vampire
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lore and other elements of fiction. Over the course of
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doing podcasting, I brought up a concept of the long tail.
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When there is scarcity, there is value in the meaning.
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When there is no scarcity, when there is limitless infinite
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shelf space, it starts to have no value. I think
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the same can be said of the human experience. When
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life is forcibly precious, it's that much more valuable. I'm
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fifty b fifty in one more year, and I've only
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got probably another twenty five thirty years left.
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I look back at the previous fifteenth.
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For the first eighteen to twenty, I didn't have a
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lot of choice. But for the past thirty I've had
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a lot of choices. Some of it didn't work out
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the way I thought it was going to, and I
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thought I was making the best decisions at the time.
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I'm very conscious of how I want to spend the
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next thirty because that might be my last. I think
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that kind of mentality. You know, again, you're asking what
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do you think death makes life more valuable worth living?
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I'm like absolutely, Having already died almost twice because of cancer.
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It was a reminder that life is a precious gift
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and it's worth trying to live the best life you're
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able to. IM a real struggle with people who are
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very quick to say your life is not valuable because
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you disagree with me, you hold different values. That's one
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of the things I picked out of the book, too,
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was this discussion of the value of life and how
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that changes when you're an infinite being. I was thinking
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about Interview with the Vampire. Some of the stuff that
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gets discussed in that book is like after a while,
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internal life is agonizing, you know, or some of the
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stuff we talked about with Black Mirror, where you have
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his infinite life living in a computer simulation, right, and
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is what torture that is?
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Yeah?
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I don't think the mind is meant to experience infinite Yeah.
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I think death absolutely gives life meaning without it.
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This is just my opinion.
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But without death, what purpose do you serve? I'm sure
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you can do something, but you don't have to.
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It changes your decision making, doesn't it. Yeah, absolutely use
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this because this has consequences, and that doesn't What if
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there are no consequences, what would you do?
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type of work that you do. Have you ever seen
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someone's grief like Darius's after Manaka's death push them to
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try to change the world for better or for worse?
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Isn't that like the whole mister Freeze thing? Like, he
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isn't mister Freeze without the death of his beloved.
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This is a tails all his time in books Yeah,
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this is somebody loses somebody, there's some type of tragedy,
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and that we are going to change the world in
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some way in I R. L.
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Mark.
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Have you ever seen anybody lose somebody or experience Yeah, and.
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Like industrial light and magic. No, that's il M, I
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l M in real life? Got it?
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that in my therapeutic work, only because they may not
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have mentioned it. Okay, but here's what I'll tell you.
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You've brought it up before, and I didn't want to
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continually interrupt you, so I just kept it to myself.
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But I was thinking about a patient that I've dealt
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with who experienced the death of a child, like an infant.
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but the death of his infant really pushed him over
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the edge, and a lot of it was just sort
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of the world's not making sense.
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He was.
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He was a church going guy, you know, the kind
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of guy that goes on religious missions, that sort of thing.
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Just a good, honest, hard work in American husband and father,
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you know, all those things that we aspire to be
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as men. He's that guy and then this happens, and
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it's just like his grasp of a sensical world where
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he can operate and have some degree of predictability shatters.
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What world?
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Is it? Right and good for God to take your
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infant child? When the world stops making sense? Why bother
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to participate in it? Two things about that. Studies show
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that infants toddlers, if you put a show on and
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it has a narrative flow to it, they will pay
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attention for however long a toddler pays attention to anything.
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up into nonsense to where it has no narrative flow,
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toddlers won't pay attention at all.
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sense and has consequences for actions. And again, think about
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any game you've ever played, Like you played D and D. Right, Yes,
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would D ANDD be enjoyable if the DM played by
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his own rules and dice rolls changed, what they attributes
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changed Suddenly, whatever the DM is doing, he can just
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change it out of whyen it wouldn't be fun anymore? Right,
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same principle?
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Yeah, personally, I don't know if I've I know a
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few people that have lost I mean the first person
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that I can earn, first person, the first type of
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person I can think of somebody who loses somebody to
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cancer is now like, Okay, I'm going to go cure cancer.
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I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that
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think they're going to do something but probably take it
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down to a more realistic level like Okay, well I'm
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going to start a foundation to fund the research in
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order to cure cancer or things like that.
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I think changing the world's a big deal.
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So the fella in the thing is just what we
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didn't God ask Abraham to sacrifice to send to him
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because he needed his test as loyalty, because he didn't
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know there's a lot that God is very insecure in
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the Old Testament. He gets called up with a devil
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and focks job over. You know, it's just a oh,
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it's only loyal because you give him such great things.
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The Devil's just like you're so easy God. He's bringing
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up to think about Abraham. You know, it's just like
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I need to test your loyalty. Your loyal servants. Get
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Kat Williams out here. This is me, Kat Williams, your
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humble servant.
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I want to ask you about Layla and her putting
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the shoe box in the ocean at the very end.
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What was your thoughts there?
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It felt like the end product of processing, you know.
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of like, I'm done with this.
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Now I can distance myself from it.
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I can say goodbye to this thing that has been
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controlling my feelings, my emotions, my decision making. Let's go
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back to that bubbles line, you know, like it's okay
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to grieve as long as you make room for other things.
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I have this thing and I'm ready to set it free.
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You sit with your grief or your trauma long enough
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for you to deal with it, and then you can
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release it and set it free. I think it's like
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a metaphor for forgiveness. Ted Lass'll line to Jamie in
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the second third season where he's like, what would you say?
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What would you say to your dad if you were
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here right now? He was just like thank you and
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fuck you? And they were talking about forgiveness. He was like,
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would you forgive your dad? And he was like, I
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wouldn't forgive him because fuck that guy. And he was
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just like, you're not giving it to your dad, You're
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giving it to yourself.
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reason she set up out on this journey was to
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make sure that the formula of eternal life does not
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get found. And I mean, I guess when she sets
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it out on the sea, I see it sitting in
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a shoe box and like, well, it's just going to
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sink to the bottom of the seat. That's the first
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thing that goes through my mind. But you don't see
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that happen. You see it floating, which is more kind
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of like ambiguous that oh, maybe somebody could come by
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and pick it up. It's floating out to see. My
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interpretation was like, Okay, she has this thing that she's
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been chasing after this whole time. She's went through this
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whole process, learned so much, and now she is allowing
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fate to kind of decide as to what's going on.
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Happened.
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That was my interpret I talk a lot about control,
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and control is linked to anxiety, and sometimes you have
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to give up trying to control the things you can't control.
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This thing was not hers and she said it free
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and she's like, whatever happens to what happens to it.
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Right, That's kind of what I thought, and I asked
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when I was working through my thoughts with Chadgybt, I said,
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this is the thing that that felt revelatory to me.
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But I said, what is it that I missed that?
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Can you look through the stuff? Is there some stuff
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that I missed? And this is what it came up
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with And it makes complete sense to me. So it
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says you saw it as her letting fate decide, but
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there's a deeper layer. By neither destroying nor using the formula,
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she's stepping outside.
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Of the role of judge.
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Yeah, it's almost an admission that she doesn't have the
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right to decide for everyone else.
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That's a huge shift for someone who used to decide
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when everyone died?
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Can I read this here?
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Absolutely?
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The Many test Lay of the Star by Ramby and
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Philippie Andrade, a modern fable draped in color whimsy.
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Whimsy is the word I was looking for earlier.
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I like wimsy and philosophical reflection where the crow confronts
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death from the perspective of someone who has been wronged
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and cannot move on. Laylis Star takes us to the
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other side of the veil entirely Here death herself is
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fired from her cosmics job because humanity is on the
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verge of discovering immortality. Stripped of her power, She's reincarnated
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as Lailas Star, a mortal woman living in Mumbai.
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The book follows her.
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She repeatedly dies and returns, each time intersecting with the
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life of the boy Destined and if the Crow is
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wrought jagged grief, Laylistar is a lyrical conversation about acceptance.
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That's why I wanted to read this who That's good.
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It's not about avenging the dead, It's about understanding that
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mortality is what gives life meaning in the first place.
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Ramby's writing is poetic without losing clarity, Andret's art is
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a washing callers. I feel alive through the page itself
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is breathing. Through her encounters with the boy at various
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stages of his life, Layla moves from bitterness and resentment
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towards compassion and understanding. It's the long arc of acceptance
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that the Crow never attempts, because that book is about
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refusing to let go that.
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Fifth issue of this story when we open up and
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there's a dog they find and they're like, take it
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to the old man who who you.
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Know he's able to take care of people. I'm like,
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My initial thought was Darius had grown old and is
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selectively using the formula. That doesn't happen here. But I
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felt like, oh crap, he actually has it. But yeah,
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when they show up, she talks with them, They and
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he explains to her, Yeah, I never used it because
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I just felt there was no sense in it. It's
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neat how he describes, like after he invented it, he
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goes and watches a movie. He goes and does this,
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and I think he starts to realize all these things
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that people do to make themselves happy because they are trying.
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To live their life.
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The removing death would make life without meaning. And he
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himself has an inoperable brain tumor at the end of this,
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and he ends up calling a son over.
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They kind of make amends, and here's the final line.
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I'll read it to you, Mark.
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Perhaps it is enough the miracle that it was plea
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to have lived what a way feel like that sentence
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was written before this story even began.
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I mean, it's funny. It's funny, you should focus on that.
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There's a conversation at my dinner table tonight with me
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and my kids before I took them back to their
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mom and it was a I was talking about choices
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you make in the world and whether you choose to
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live and make mistakes or if you'd restrict everything in
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the hopes there's something in the afterlife for you. This
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is a motivating factor for some of our you know,
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I don't want to talk about Robert, but you know,
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there are people who believe, such as Robert does, that
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if you leave a chaste life in you know, in
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the afterlife, you will be rewarded with you know, with paradise.
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Right.
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However, there's people like me who what a waste of
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life to not live it. I almost feel like it's
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antithetical to the definition of life. Life is to be lived,
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Life is to be enjoyed. Should you make some sacrifices,
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should you not given to every single whom you have? Yes,
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you should absolutely find the place in the middle of
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enjoyment and restriction. I think that's everyone's kind of personal journey.
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My struggle with Robert and people who believe the way
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that he does, not him personally, but the belief in
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and of itself is yes, it is entirely dependent on faith,
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which is not necessarily the thing I want to attack.
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But more of why does it have to be zero sum,
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Like you have to have the worst life on earth
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in order to have the.
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Best life after earth afterwards?
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Yeah, why can't you do both? Why can't you make
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the most of the life that you've been blessed with
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and then if something happens in the afterlife where you're
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also rewarded. Okay, great, I don't understand why, Like it's
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a moral lesson, it's a civilizing lesson of don't be
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an animal, you know, But I don't. I was telling
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you before, like I made the Fraudiyavlo album and such
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unadults rated joy listening to some of his music. Yeah,
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I don't want to live my life without joy. I
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don't want to live in my life without love. So
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you know, it's going back to the Layla Star thing.
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I do think that there is room in this world
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to experience those things and not live the most chase
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life ever for the promise of something better in the afterlife.
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Right, which is good.
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The conversation I had with my kids earlier, Yeah, yeah,
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they come away with it going.
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You're right, Dan. There was a lot of ideas being
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bandied about, but that was my take. That's good.
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No, their take was why did you make two pork
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chops a piece? Or do you think we are this
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is a giant of food Psycho? That was their take.
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Two pork chops a piece?
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There small pork chops? What if their mother doesn't feed them?
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Jesse what it's a constant fear. I get it.
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As far as the many deaths of Layla Star. If
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you are somebody that has an open mind that you're
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interested in thoughtful, spiritual or philosophical.
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This is not a big guns book, Chris Bailey.
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This is something that has a bit of a message,
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a bit of a take on life.
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And death and spefulness to it.
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It's a good story wrapped in somewhat of a message.
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If you get a chance. I'm glad it's out there
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and a lot of people have it sitting on the shelves.
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They should be able to pick it up and read it.
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It's a good book. So there it is. Mark, We
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did it. We made it through all three books. So
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let's get into plugs.
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Well, if you're watching the live feed tomorrow, we're reviewing
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more of the Worlds, and then Tuesday, Alexis and Robert
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and Jason are going to talk weapons. And then Thursday,
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myself and you and maybe Andrew and who knows who else,
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we'll be concluding our look at the West Wing. Next
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week Sunday we're reviewing Baby Metal, and then Night Always Comes,
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which is a Netflix movie, and then myself and Alexis
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are reviewing Resident Alien season four. And then on Thursday,
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I think it's me and Mick and we're going to
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be looking at some Netflix movies, a Fear Street prom Queen,
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the Old Guard two, and Fountain of Youth.
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Which is did you watch all the other fearstream movies?
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A couple of years ago, Ronnie and Sean and I
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did a long Road to ruin on them.
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Got it okay? All right?
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So check me out on TikTok. I take these podcasts
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that we do, and I kind of do one to
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two minute face forward reads something up what we talked about.
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They also do reactions to news stories that are getting
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longer every day. But what I've started is Ratalist University
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which is basically I taking my good Reads list and
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I made a link tree out of it to Amazon.
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I'm doing advertisements for books that have shaped the person
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I am. I told you like, after nine to eleven,
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I started reading a lot of nonfiction and I would
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read in bulk like my own personal college audit. So
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I went back through my good Reads list and one
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by one, I'm doing kind of tiktoks on all of
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these books that I've read. And it's called rattlest University.
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Because I am a mester of branding. I have these
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big idea pieces. I've been talking a lot about AI
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and real estate. I have child care tips, the child
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rearing tips and historical stuff.
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Some of it goes viral some of it. And more
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than anything, I.
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Need to get ten thousand followers because it's the only
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way to make money with TikTok learn how to sell
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products of the TikTok shop. And I have not mastered
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that tale not at.
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All, actually old TikTok shop.
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All right, I don't know if you mentioned this or not,
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but Wednesday, did you mention what's going on Wednesday with
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me and alexis hanging out and talking to stranger things?
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Having Wednesday, I believe, so, unless I'm missing it somewhere,
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I think it's going to be happening this Wednesday.
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It'll be season one of Stranger Things.
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Me and Alexis getting together and I don't know if
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she's having anybody else on there or not, but we're
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gonna have a good time talking about that previous week.
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Previous Monday, it was me Al Sadano getting together talking
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about the third volume of Quantum and Woody I knew,
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and Woody Yeah, it was fun. It was a lot
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of fun. There was a goat involved, so as always.
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The Goats Day of the Swollen Goat.
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Tomorrow, I'm smoking Issues Returns.
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It's the nineties comics centric podcast on the Source Material
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Comics Feed. There we're gonna be talking about that Phantom.
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We're gonna be talking about Fantastic four number three seventy one,
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which we're in the middle of Gimmick cover summer, and
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that is the Fantastic four issue where it was just
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completely white and Johnny Storm went nova. It wouldn't have
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looked like it was on fire if it wasn't for
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the fact that we had Sue Storm in the boob
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window with fantastic with the four right there on our chest. Yeah,
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and that was the introduction of that outfit.
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So hey.
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And then our next source material is September fourteenth. We're
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gonna talk Day Tripper, just Day Tripper, Day Tripper twelve issues,
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because I'm not allowed to do that anymore.
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It'll be three episodes of four Yes, we can do it.
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Me and Evan Bevins get together and talk about Marvel snaps.
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If you like Marvel Snap, that'll show up on the
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source material comics feed as well. It's called snap Material.
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I'm an expert at branding as well.
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Well. That being said, let's get on out of here.
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Mark Radleys, thanks for joining me tonight. I'm Jesse Starter.
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Have a good one bye bye.
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Thanks for joining.
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