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Welcome to the Shawn Row podcast. Thank
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you for tuning in. Let's talk about it.
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>> Welcome to the Shawn Row podcast brought
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to you by the media network. I'm here
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with Cindy Rosika, owner of the Lowly
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Sauna Lounge. Cindy, how you doing?
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>> I am so good, Sean. So super excited to
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be with you today.
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>> I am very excited for you to be here
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because you are a valuable asset in a
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athletes training and people. I'm saying
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that because what she provides, the
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service her company provides, shout out
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to Dion, by the way, a partner, and he
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is a great guy. Dion is is very educated
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with the whole sauna thing and the whole
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coal pl. But
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>> Cindy, you you being an owner of this
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this place, this facility, and I'm I'm
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going to lead into something,
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>> all right,
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>> is a treat for guys like me. I say a
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treat because if you're a runner, any
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form of athlete, athleticism, even just
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an everyday person, the cold plunge,
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the cold plunge is a a weapon
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>> to recovery.
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>> Yes.
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>> Tell us about it. How did you start?
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When did you start?
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>> Okay, I'll have to go back in time a
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little bit.
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>> Okay, let's rewind.
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>> Let's rewind a little bit.
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2022,
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Dian and I meet on Bumble. We had this
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crazy romance. Just all these
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circumstances just came together and
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boom, right? And we found ourselves in
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love. We get married 21 days after we
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have our second date.
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>> Got it.
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>> It be like that sometimes.
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>> It can be like that sometimes.
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>> Shot his arrow.
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>> Cuz I'll give you I'll give you a thing.
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Like the first date was a swing and a
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miss. The second date was a missed text
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to his massage therapist who was named
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Cindy, but he texted me instead.
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>> And so we're essentially still on our
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>> chemistry. Wow.
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>> Because we're still on our second date.
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>> Transparent about it, right?
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>> I know, right? It was like a total total
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thing. But we're actually still on our
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second date. Like he never went home.
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>> He's still passionate. That's
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>> that's all that matters. And you have a
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lot of things in common. That's what
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keeps the chemistry flowing. Go for it.
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>> That's the greatest thing ever, right?
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Mhm.
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>> And he had had some dental work done
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that just wouldn't heal. Didn't think
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anything about it. Doctor's like, "Oh,
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I'm sure it'll be fine." It wasn't fine.
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We got married in August and by December
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he's sick. Like seriously, like
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>> circling the tank sick. Has a pickline
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of crazy antibiotics. Has lost 30 lbs.
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Nobody knows what's wrong with him.
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>> He's a walking miracle, man. He looks
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healthy, strong as an ox.
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>> I know.
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>> Wow. So what happened was Christmas
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morning of 22, he had this dream to take
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cold baths and it will heal you.
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>> He got like a spiritual calling about
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this, huh?
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>> And he tells me this and I'm like that
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sounds awful. And and
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>> would you say that sounds awful?
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>> That sounds awful
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sounds awful about waking up.
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>> Totally awful. I would never like hot
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baz.
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>> We were not we're not athletes. We're
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not particularly at that time
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particularly health consscious. We're
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like none of those things. Like his
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favorite restaurant is Popeye's chicken.
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I drink a lot of wine. Spicy chicken,
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you know. Yeah. Spicy wine.
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>> Oh, let's eat the grease.
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>> Anyways good.
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>> Um and he tells me that and I think you
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know everything I just told you. And so
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right after Christmas he we finally get
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his lymph nodes biopsied and we find out
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the whole reason behind all of this is
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he has lymphatic leukemia.
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>> Oh my gosh. Are you serious?
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>> I'm totally serious. And we learned that
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news, let's just say on a Thursday and
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Monday they want that they, you know,
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the medical community wanted to start um
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super heavy protocol on him
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>> and that we had the weekend to just
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figure it out and we just we just went
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rabbit hole down deep
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>> YouTube like YouTube University on
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anybody that had cured themselves
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naturally
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>> of of this some real hope like some real
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hope, right? soul searching to fix it
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>> the natural way. Okay.
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>> And we found this curious Dutch guy
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named Wimhof.
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>> Have you heard of him?
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>> No.
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>> He's also known as the Iceman.
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>> Okay.
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>> And he's done these amazing things with
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his autonomic nervous system. He has
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been able to increase his immune system
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by doing three things. Breath, cold, and
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mindset.
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>> And Wow.
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>> And we probably watched 200 videos that
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>> getting deep, Cindy. Okay. So totally
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deep like this.
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>> There's a method to the madness here.
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This led to something. Okay. Go ahead.
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>> We did not. Sean, this this did not
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start out as oh like this is
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>> let's just wake up and open up a sauna
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lounge and let's do that. We sell
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service for cold plunging and uh
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infrared sauna.
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>> We watch
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it really led to something something
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>> dramatical happened to open this door of
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health and healing basically.
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>> And so what happened um was I found a
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place to go. Dion was too sick.
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Mechanics gym, they're no longer in
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business. That was my first coal plunge.
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>> Mh.
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>> And I it took literally took my breath
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away, but it also was such a pattern
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interrupt like something started to
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change.
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>> Whoa.
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>> And then and so Dion was a little bit
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better so he started going with it. Like
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the next time he went with Right. Cuz
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the first time I just wanted to try it
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out. There weren't results yet, but I
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tried it. Like I was the first one to do
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it cuz I'm like, "Hey, we'll do
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anything."
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>> You know, I've been to MD Anderson with
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my grandfather when he when he was
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living and it was not, you know, it
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still stuck in my body those memories of
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of, you know, what what he went through.
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>> So, um, we go to the gym and this was
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this is the real thing in the gym. You
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know, Dion is so sick, still has a
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pickline, 30 lbs lighter, and he's not a
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big guy, right? and he's got a trash bag
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on his arm with a rubber band so the
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line doesn't get wet,
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>> right?
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>> And the gym members are watching us and
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we're getting in these, you know, 40°ree
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water tubs and then we'll get him out
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and I'll dry him off and warm him up and
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we'll go set in the sun and we'll do
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like we that was our repeat, right?
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>> And it was a the gym members were seeing
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our courage, our faith. They were
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sharing their courage, their love, their
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prayers, their hope, you know, like
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witnessing our hope and like it was just
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like this elevating thing that it now I
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know what it was. This heart works in
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mysterious ways.
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>> God does God is on his game like all the
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time or her game, however, but you know
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um that was the really biggest deal. All
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right. So we were doing this like almost
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every day and it was pretty far away and
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so it was about an hour to get there, an
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hour to do it, an hour to get back. So
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like three hours every day is a lot.
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>> So you guys got a system now that you're
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going and you're doing it.
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>> We're doing it. We're doing it. We're
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doing it.
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>> But you still haven't seen results yet
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or
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>> No, we're now we're three months in.
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>> So after three months, are you seeing
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>> He's a lot better.
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>> Oh, so he's moving around. He's
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functionable. He's
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>> Well, because And now we know why is
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because there are two ways to build new
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mitochondria. And one is really, you
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know, hard hard ass exercise. I don't
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want it.
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>> Just going crushing it. Right. Right.
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And the second is extreme cold warming
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up naturally.
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>> Extreme cold warming up naturally.
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That's a gem.
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>> That is a gem.
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>> And so he was getting like his energy
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was boosting. His energy was getting
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better. Like he was getting better all
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the time. We were sweating out toxins in
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the sauna. We were getting we were
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getting community and we were getting
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what I just told you about cold water.
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Okay. We were also getting pattern
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interrupts with what we were thinking
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like all this fear looping that was in
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our mind like you know all kinds of
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scary words like leukemia is a scary
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word. Yeah. You know
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>> so at any rate we were doing that we
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were getting better.
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>> That gym was too far away. So, another
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place lit opened right across the street
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from we where we were living at the
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time. Literally across the street.
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>> Whoa.
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>> And we're like, "Okay,
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>> walking distance. Let me get a
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>> walking distance. Get up. Go get a sweat
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real quick." Right.
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>> Yeah. And
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>> this is all amazing. It's leading to
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something. Yeah. It's a journey.
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>> And it was beautiful and it was um
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bougie and like all the things I like.
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Right.
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>> But two things. It was private.
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>> Uhhuh.
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>> Right. So, no community,
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>> right? You got your own kind of like,
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you know, therapeutic, your own space,
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like Right. Right. Privacy, right?
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>> Right. Okay.
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>> Um, and their water wasn't cold enough
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>> and he started to get sick again. And
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so, what really happened, the whole
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reason came to be is that their water
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wasn't cold enough. We lived in a
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high-rise. I'm an interior designer. If
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we had lived in a house, we would have
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done this at our house. Right. End the
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story. like due to circumstances.
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>> Done and done, right? Due to
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circumstances.
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>> And um so he started to get sick again.
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>> He ended up buying two cold plunges on
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his way to work. Calls me on his way to
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work and said, "Babe, we got to do this.
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I've got to have this. If it worked for
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us, it'll work for anyone."
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>> Wow.
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>> Everyone. And that's the epiphany. The
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light the light bulb. And that's how we
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>> That's how like it wasn't like this big
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business plan. And it wasn't like we
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surveyed and you know and this and Sean
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this was this was
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>> it was God's plan. Let me let me stop
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you from this and it was God's plan.
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>> It was
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>> it's not about business plan. You can't
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control elements that's supposed to
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happen naturally. It was God's plan. I
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always say that firmly. You know what I
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mean?
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>> Yeah it was.
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>> And um go ahead. Let me So So then when
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when you got the place
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>> So we got the PL and this this all took
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place in like four days. So buys the tub
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Thursday. Monday we have a lease.
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That's how God works. It's like this is
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no joke.
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>> You want it.
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>> We It just happened, you know. And this
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was this was in 23.
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>> 23, right babe? 23. Um
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and this was before cold plunging was a
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thing, you know, and we thought, "Oh
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man, it worked for us. Like he's
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radiating health." Okay. For me, let me
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just tell you what happened to me
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because I didn't think I had any
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problems.
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>> I had a lot of problems. Um, this is how
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I broke up with alcohol.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yeah. Um,
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>> yeah, I could relate on that. You know
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what I mean? Like, right, cuz it's a
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nervous system thing. I had crippling
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anxiety. Like in my job as an interior
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designer, it is that is a hard
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profession with a lot of, you know, high
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octane clients who expect it like they
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expect it. And
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>> yesterday, they want everything like
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yesterday
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>> and and like construction. I don't know
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if you've done construction, but like
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things don't always go as planned.
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Hello, city of Houston.
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>> Um permitting, things like that.
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>> So many things that were beyond my
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control that I just carried all the
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time. And instead of having a plan, I
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had an ABCD EFG plan. Right? Okay. So
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all that. And so what I was doing is it
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was like I had a lowgrade fever on my
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nervous system non-stop.
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>> Wow. for years and I didn't know how to
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relax and I didn't know how to calm down
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and I didn't know I didn't even you know
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like
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>> so cold plunging once you once you got
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educated about it that's what kind of
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made you stop drinking
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>> I wasn't educated I wasn't I didn't even
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mean to like I didn't mean to do any of
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these things Sean like organically
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>> that's God
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absolutely
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>> because we're not we are everything. We
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are body and spirit. We're not one or
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the other.
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>> We're it it's this. Right.
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>> Right.
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>> And so I thought I was doing this out of
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love for my husband. But what I found in
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doing this was a way to connect to
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something I didn't even remember I had.
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>> I think it's both.
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>> I think so, too.
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>> I think it's both. I think you did it
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out of love because you love somebody,
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but then also in hindsight, you realize,
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wow, this is helping me too. You know
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what I'm saying?
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>> I I I mean it was it was kind of like
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the back door to to sell because at that
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time I didn't think I needed help, you
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know, but Sean, I needed so much help. I
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was so full of You have no
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idea.
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>> Yeah. And that kind of that gave you
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some clarity. You could say the cold
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cleansing gave you some clarity.
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>> It gave me it gave me
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a pause. A pause on my nervous system. A
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pause that only thing I could do cuz
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like the water's cold. Like it is no
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joke cold. like you've got
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>> we going to talk about that. I know it's
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not for the week
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>> and it takes your breath away, right?
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But in that like like that gasp to me
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that was a pause that was this
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disconnection of my mind and my body and
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and the first times I did it all I could
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concentrate on was my breath
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>> nothing else like in for five.
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>> So you see you see what you just said
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with the breath. Now, let me tell the
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story. It's perfect thing to say to
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trigger the story. When I went to that
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event,
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>> Yeah.
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>> where you guys were at and I dipped into
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your cold plunge. I did it for four
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minutes, by the way, guys. Four minutes.
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Never done it before. Thank God for his
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blessing. And the cold plunge word
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that's all right, right?
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>> It's icy. Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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But when I was in that, I remember
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naturally I was I started making this
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this this like rhythm like
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>> you did
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>> cuz it was so cold. But the rhythm was
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making me feel better.
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>> And then I remember Dion was right there
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doing the rhythm with me. So I was like,
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"Okay, I'm on to something here." Cuz he
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was guiding me through the whole thing.
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>> And I think after the first minute is
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when your body just kind of changes a
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level.
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>> It does.
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>> And it's adjusting to the atmosphere.
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And I started like, yo, this is such a
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it's a great feeling, but it was
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different. And when I got out, Cindy,
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when I got out of the the plunge, I'm
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being honest with you, that even when I
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went home, I felt incredible.
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I felt incredible.
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And I've never done it before. And I've
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always seen athletes do it. You know, a
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lot of the MMA fighters, a lot of the
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boxers, a lot of the football players,
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you know, after a game or something,
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they sit in there and just kind of use
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it to to decompress and recover. But
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>> I've never tried it before. And let me
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tell you, it's the truth, man. It is the
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truth. So, you providing this service to
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the community, you're helping. And not
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just athletes, too. I mean, like what
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you're saying is like a regular lady.
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>> She's not an athlete.
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>> You You're far from regular because
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you're somebody that's passionate about
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what you do. So that's never a regular
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thing. You know what I'm saying?
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>> Thank you.
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>> But
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>> when you when you provide this service
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to the community, you know, we come on
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these platforms to to educate people to
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let people know like there is facilities
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in the city that
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>> if you're feeling a type of way with
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your body, not even your body, the
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co-plunches from what you express to me,
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it's a mind, body, and spiritual
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enhancement, so to speak. You know what
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I mean? It helped your partner. I mean,
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you being who you are and what you're
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doing, like what would you say to to to
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anybody that has never experienced it,
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you know what I'm saying? Like what what
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what would you say to them? Cuz some
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people, you know, when they hear cold,
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>> you know?
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>> Oh, I know. I ain't going in there.
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That's cold, baby. I like to take hot
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showers in the morning, you know? I What
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would you say to them like to to to kind
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of I wouldn't say bait them in, but to
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kind of like let them feel comfortable
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coming in to go take a dip? I'd say
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number one, we have hot things, too.
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>> We have a hot tub and hot sauna. So,
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like, okay. Right.
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>> Um, but I would say when you're in our
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space, I think you'll become a little
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cold curious
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because let me describe the space for
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you. You've been there, but you haven't.
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>> Um, open,
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>> right? Open. Warm. The aesthetic is
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really warm.
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>> Welcoming. Welcoming. I want you
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comfortable.
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>> Excellent customer service. Yeah. And I
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want you to feel like you're coming into
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our living room, into our home, right?
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So, I want the whole experience to be a
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nervous system reset for you because
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cold is just an invitation only an
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invitation.
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>> You know, I seen I seen something great
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great answer by the way. I seen
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something where it says like um if you
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take cold showers in the morning, it's
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actually better for you than if you take
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warm showers because it makes your
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nervous system like wake up. Yeah.
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>> Or if you drink like a cold bottle of
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water in the morning, it it wakes up
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your organs or something. I ain't going
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to lie, I started drinking the cold
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bottles in the morning. Really?
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>> Yeah. Just to kind of like switch it up.
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I'm always I always want to learn, you
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know what I mean? And uh I feel like
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with with with the viewers or the people
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out there that don't know, cuz it's not
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just athletes, regular people, you know,
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we want to always make regular people
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want to know about this stuff. So you
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>> you doing this I think is a gem to the
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city. I think it's it's also a a
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learning curve and I think you and Dion
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are like incredible people for like
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going to these events and like really I
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see y'all grinding man. You know what I
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mean? Like you guys are on your page
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there's a lot of events you guys pull up
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and just and putting all that together
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is not an easy task especially when
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you're dealing with water. You know what
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I mean? But
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>> let's switch it up. Let's let's talk
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about running.
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>> Okay. And you know I'm not a runner.
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>> I know you're not.
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>> Unless something is chasing me.
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>> No.
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>> Okay. But I know your son's a runner.
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>> He totally is.
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>> And I heard he did his 50 mile run.
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Congratulations to him.
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>> In Norway, he did a trail run and I'm
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going to just tell you the mama bear and
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me. His tracker cuz I could, you know,
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track him, right?
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>> All the way in where was he? Norway.
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>> Norway. Okay.
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>> Yeah. And his his number his race number
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was 281, which I thought was really
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cool.
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>> Houston
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>> for representing. And that was just like
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fluke. That was so cool. But anyway, the
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tracker stopped tracking and so like I'm
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seeing my baby in this like, you know,
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horrible terrain, this long 50-mi trail
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and I'm seeing my baby's tracker like
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not going and then all these other other
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these other boys are like running right
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>> and uh no, it just was dead. His the the
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battery broke or something. But at any
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rate,
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>> everything was good.
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>> It's 25 hours.
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>> I will Yeah. in not flat ground like
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mountain rock.
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>> That trail is a whole different Yeah,
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that trail ultras animal, man. I do
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smooth flat surfaces personally, but
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doing them trails is a whole different
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animal. Did he cold plunge afterwards?
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>> Well, it's it was in Norway, so they
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they did jump in the sea. So, yeah.
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>> And you
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>> you you think that after a workout you
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should do cold punch or before? I think
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you should do it before. I think you
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should Okay, let me just tell you
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there's a lot of science about this.
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That's why I'm right. There's a lot of
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science.
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>> Educate us, please.
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>> And I will tell you in our and the team
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between Dion and I, I'm soulhe science,
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but I've looked at this a little bit. I
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think that pre-cooling before you run is
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smart. Cycling or running because you
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you just chill. It'll help you handle
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the heat better. If you're a weight
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trainer or weightlifter, you know, like
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you're shredding, right? So, you want
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that inflammation. So, don't cold plunge
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right after a workout, after a strength
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training workout. Um, do that four to
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six hours later or pre- cold before
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>> or use us on your off day like your
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recovery day. Right. So, we have a lot
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of athletes that do high rocks and all
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other kinds of things that we would
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never do. Right. Right. Right. Right.
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But we have been doing s like we have
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been, you know, doing hard things with
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people.
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>> Gem, man. And so before it so say for
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instance I got this 200 miles that I'm
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training for for the Wounded Warriors
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project.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Would you suggest me getting a cold
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plunge before my run or getting a cold
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plunge?
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>> I would do it both. Actually for you I
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would do it both. And I want you to try
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it. I want you to try that that pre-cool
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before and see if it gives you a little
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more juice.
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>> And are you doing breath work?
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>> No.
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>> You need to talk to Dion. I gotta talk
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to
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>> D because it'll oxygenate your blood.
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You will have more power than you've
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ever had.
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>> What about infrared sauna? Tell me about
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that.
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>> Love that.
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>> Tell me the the the dynamics.
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>> Juicy. Well, first of all, everybody
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looks good in a red light glow. So,
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>> they do a lot of good skin stuff, don't
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they?
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>> Look like come on beautiful pores. You
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start looking just shiny and nice.
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>> All glowed up like
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>> I love it. I love it. Okay.
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>> I love that. Right. I want to tell you a
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little bit more about that because it
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does these two things do something
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incredible that you never would know.
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>> All right. So, you're getting I just I
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got to tell you cuz you know like you
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could bring your wife.
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>> This is education for me.
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>> It is education. This is good news.
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Okay. So, when he was so sick and we
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were doing this all the time and we were
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kind of newly married, right? So, you
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imagine just drama of this crazy
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illness.
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>> Had that health scare and then
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Okay. But what was really cool about it
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is that we were spending time almost
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every day doing some breathing together,
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doing something hard together,
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witnessing each other's courage, doing
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it together.
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>> Talk about keeping the bond strong or
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making the bond stronger, huh?
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>> And then we would get in a sauna
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together. All right. Your tech doesn't
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work.
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>> This is a cold plunge sauna romance.
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Yes, it is.
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>> This is juicy, y'all. Listen to me. All
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right. So your tech doesn't work in
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there. Undivided attention.
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You and your partner. Undivided
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attention.
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>> Locked in.
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>> Locked in. Sweating it out. Talking it
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out. Just getting rid of just getting
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rid of stuff like toxins, right?
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>> And then doing it again like rinse and
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repeat. What was happening was we were
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getting a dopamine hit like
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>> all the endorphins is lightening up.
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>> Lighten up, right? um serotonin and then
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you're getting oxytocin. So, it's like
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this love potion cocktail. Oxytocin is
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that that chemical that is loyalty,
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strong bonding, protection, safety.
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Women love to feel safe with their men.
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This I'm like, this is like juicy.
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>> This is gems. So, if you're going on a
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first date, ladies and gentlemen, forget
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going to a restaurant. You should think
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about taking your partner to a infrared
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sauna lounge. Preferably lowly sauna
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lounge because you might get a lot of
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brownie points when you go in that sauna
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lounge.
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>> How about that? That was a commercial
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for you.
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>> You just might. Thank you for that. And
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I'll tell you what we did last night. We
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had our first
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>> first
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>> um singles sauna social.
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>> Wow. So it's like a you make you turn it
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even to like a social event, you know.
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That's so slick though because it's like
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>> slick in a good way. So you bring people
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together but it's health. Ah Sean
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instead of going to a bar let's go to
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the sauna lounge.
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>> Well instead of getting on a dating app
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where it's all like you know filtered
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right and you're showing your best thing
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that's not the real like that in the
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picture. When I seen you on the computer
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you was looking like this but when I see
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you in person you didn't look like that.
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>> I didn't even know who you were. Who is
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where is this person? And we met on
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Bumble. Like that's how we met. Right.
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So we know about that whole dating
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thing.
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>> So you made kind of like a social
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environment too. Well, we did. And
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what's so cool about it is that alcohol
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free. Our space is alcohol free. Alcohol
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free entertainment.
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>> It's hard to find places to go to these
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days where you don't if you don't want
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to drink. You know what I mean? Like
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>> I know I do. Oh, or you want like real
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connected conversation. Correct. So, so
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think about it as connection and chill
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instead of Netflix and chill.
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>> Just saying. Um, and
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>> that's a smart one because you're
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staying connected with that person
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actively. Yep. Yep.
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>> Well, okay. So, eight men, eight women.
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All right. Guided guided with a
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relationship therapist with with good
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questions like just simple questions,
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just easy like, you know, what lights
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you up or what's something you're proud
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of or what? You know what I mean?
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>> Speed what do you call a speed date?
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>> Kind of speed date
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>> in a sauna.
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>> A little a little.
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>> That's fun though. That's kind of fun.
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>> It's kind of fun though, right? And
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also, you will meet 15 great
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Houstononians, 15 epic people that care
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about their health, that are willing to,
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you know, like maybe be reframing their
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relationship with alcohol, um, and that
00:24:41.360 --> 00:24:44.149
are willing to take a risk because cold
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water is it's intense. And you know, you
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know what? You know what's so dope about
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that is because you know for anybody out
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there that's single,
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>> it's also good to know that if you meet
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somebody in that environment, you know
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that they're health conscious.
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>> That's right.
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>> You know that they like the same thing
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you like. You know that we both can
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better ourselves. And I think whoever
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your companion is, you got to have that
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kind of chemistry. You know what I'm
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.470
saying? So that's that's a plus, man.
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>> And the best conversations happen in a
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sauna. We we were in last year or year
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before last we you know to help our
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:16.470
business we went to eight different
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countries to doing sauna and co
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>> words of wisdom.
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>> Yeah
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>> cuz you are very knowledgeable about it.
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Tell the viewers word of wisdom. What
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would you tell them
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why they should come to your sauna
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lounge?
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>> Oh
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>> little word of wisdom from you.
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>> Okay.
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>> And we be short cuz we got a little
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little time left. So let's
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>> connection
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>> community.
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>> Mhm. a place of belonging.
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And when you have a calm nervous system,
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you feel safe. And when you're safe in
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your body,
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you um
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the resistance starts to fade. It widens
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your aperture
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>> of what what's really going on.
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>> Wow.
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>> In our world. Like it widens our
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aperture.
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>> Opens the mind.
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>> Opens the mind. Opens opens the spirit.
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And it helps you connect to the truth of
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who you are. And I believe we're all
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divine. And it's not the light to get
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in, it's the light to get out.
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>> Cindy, thank you so much for those gems.
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And we appreciate you guys. This is
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