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Guest: Chris Zimmerman
- Owner, At Your Service Roofing and Remodeling
- Co-founder, Master Your Craft (with John Lombard)
- 15+ years in roofing industry
- Owens Corning Platinum Preferred Contractor
- Based in Cincinnati, OH with branch in Cleveland
Key Topics Discussed:
Industry Transformation (2024)
- Market down 20-40% for most contractors
- Chris achieved best year ever despite no major storms
- The "thinning of the herd" is finally happening
- Shift from storm-dependent to sustainable business models
New Ventures with John Lombard:
- Scientific Hail Damage Testing Service - Methodical testing to determine actual hail damage vs. "magnetic hail"
- AI-Powered Claims Assistance Tool - Downloads expertise from Chris, John, and industry leaders to help contractors communicate effectively with insurance carriers
The Great Pivot: Restoration to Retail
- Burned company to the ground (Labor Day 2024)
- Eliminated 2 of 5 divisions
- Complete restructuring of leadership and processes
- Unified process for repairs, retail, and claims
- Eliminated door knocking entirely
- Focus on referral partnerships over cold leads
Three Mindset Shifts for Retail Success:
- Price - You can charge premium prices in retail (just like restoration)
- Opportunity - Build referral networks, don't rely on door knocking or expensive marketing
- Service - Run every appointment through the same process regardless of type
Insurance Industry Challenges:
- COVID doubled claim costs while premiums stayed regulated
- Carriers forced into "poor behavior" due to financial constraints
- Fraud was "priced in" but became unmanageable
- Homeowners deserve indemnification regardless of carrier challenges
Communication is King:
- "If your skill level is a 4 and your communication level is a 9, your effectiveness is a 4" - John Lombard
- Understanding the "why" behind strategies vs. memorizing scripts
- Most contractors can't effectively "sell value"
Industry Red Flags:
- "Insurance claim specialist" = UPA violations
- Flexing on social media vs. building sustainable business
- Short-term thinking vs. long-term wealth building
- Lambos in year 2-3 = cash flow problems ahead
Advice for New Roofers:
- Develop strong work ethic first
- Read books constantly (1% better with each one)
- Block out the noise and social media drama
- Treat roofing as a career, not a job
- Build reputation over revenue
- Focus on long-term strategy
- Take advantage of training resources (NTS, Master Your Craft)
Master Your Craft Details:
- Online community: $1,000-$1,500/month for 20 users
- 15-35 pre-recorded 2-hour trainings
- 3 new trainings monthly (Chris, John, + guest expert)
- Private trainings available
- Free Owens Corning University classes
- In-person classes: ~$500-600/ticket
Resources Mentioned:
- Master Your Craft
- NTS (National Testing Services)
- RSRA (Roofing & Siding Restoration Alliance) - Adam Bensman
- Owens Corning University
- Power Home Remodeling
Key Quotes:
- "Your reputation is your net worth"
- "It's way harder to sell restoration than retail these days"
- "The problem with arguing with a fool is that people from a distance can't tell who's who"
- "Slow down, make your money, do good, help people out—that good's gonna come back to you"
- "Keep it stupid simple" (KISS principle)
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Episode Notes
Zach grew up in a roofing family in DFW; his dad transitioned from mortgages into roofing after the 2008 crash.
Zach sold his first roofs at 17 after a hometown storm, earning around $10K in one summer — more than a full summer at Chick-fil-A.
He studied marketing in college, …
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Shane got his start in construction in 2013 doing gutter cleaning and repairs before moving into general contracting, flooring, and eventually car sales.
He launched his own business about 8-9 years ago and later transitioned fully into roofing roughly five years ago.
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