The Invaders Review Nightmare – Fusion Patrol Ep. 789

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Fusion Patrol. I'm Eugene.
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And I'm Kenneth.
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And tonight we are looking at Season 1, Episode 7 of The Invaders. The episode Nightmare.
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Synopsis. Prologue. In Grady, Kansas, a young school teacher,
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Ellen Woods, brings study materials to student Fred Danielson,
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who is out of school due to an injury.
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When she arrives at the Danielson farm, she discovers Fred, seemingly fit,
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plus his father, and also the town constable Ned Gabbard, working on a mysterious machine.
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They make to kill her and pursue her, and she flees in terror.
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Instead of pursuing on foot, they use the machine to send a swarm of locusts after her.
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She narrowly escapes by hiding indoors.
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Act 1. David Vincent, having read the report in the papers, has come to Grady
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to question Ellen about what she saw.
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The town, in general, and her boyfriend, Ed, in particular, don't want him there.
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Ellen has had some emotional problems in the past and spent time in a sanitarium.
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They all think that questioning her would be too much of a strain.
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One of the people protecting Ellen is the school principal, Mr. Ames.
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Vincent tracks Ellen down to Ames' house and, over Ames' objections,
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Ellen agrees to see Vincent and assure him that she was imagining what she saw.
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Vincent doesn't believe her and he badgers her about it.
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Ames kicks him out and later Ed beats him up.
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The constable and one of his deputies find the unconscious Vincent and take him to jail.
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Act 2. Vincent is let out of jail and is taken by Constable Gabbard and Deputy
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Braden to the next town, where he can catch a bus and never return to Grady.
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That is a lie. They are both invaders and are taking Vincent to his death.
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He manages to wreck their car and escapes across a field of crops.
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Meanwhile, Ellen, surprised that Vincent actually believed what she saw,
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begins to have doubts that it was her imagination.
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She tells Ed, as God is my witness, I saw those men, and there was a box,
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and it brought the locusts.
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Ed, still believing she's delusional, is supportive and will stand with her
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until she forgets all this nonsense.
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Later, Ellen decides to investigate, but Ames refuses to let her leave the house,
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for her own good, of course.
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She breaks free and drives off, heading towards Danielson's farm.
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Gabbard has summoned the locusts who are pursuing Vincent.
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Ellen sees him and the locusts, and they barely make it to the silo building
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in time to be saved from them.
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Inside, they find strange equipment and insectariums with various insects inside them.
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Vincent takes some of the powder that's all over the crops and puts it on a
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convenient chunk of meat.
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He places it in with the butterflies, and they devour it in seconds.
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Act 3. Vincent and Ellen leave the silo and find the crops outside stripped bare by the locusts.
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The constable and Danielson see them and give chase, but they escape in Ellen's car.
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Vincent sends Ellen back to Ames' house, where she should call Ed to be with her.
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Vincent makes for a payphone to call the state police. When he reaches him,
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they tell him it's not really their jurisdiction, but they'll have someone look into it.
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The state police call Constable Gabbard and tell him where Vincent is so they can help him.
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At Ames' house, Ellen is beginning to get suspicious of him.
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She can't reach Ed, and she's beginning to get scared.
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She begs the Lapham sisters to find Ed and bring him to her.
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She begs Miss Havergal to stay with her, so she won't be alone with Ames.
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When Ed does arrive, Havergal has put Ellen to bed in her room.
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Ames prevents Ed from seeing her. He claims it's the doctor's orders that Ellen
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shouldn't see him, and that she should be taken to a clinic in Wichita immediately.
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Reluctantly, Ed agrees. Ames will be taking her to the clinic immediately.
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Vincent sees Gabbard coming and escapes.
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Act 4. Vincent heads to Ed's house and tries to convince him that Ellen's life is in danger.
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He convinces him to check up on the clinic that the doctor's orders supposedly
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came from, and there is no such clinic.
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Gabbard arrives looking for Vincent, and Ed covers for him.
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Ames and Havergill chloroform the unwilling Ellen and take her to the car and drive off.
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Vincent and Ed head out in pursuit and track her to Danielson's farm.
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A fight breaks out, and several of the invaders are killed, but Ames and Havergill
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escape to the silo, where they activate a self-destruct mechanism,
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destroying all evidence.
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Epilogue Ed and Ellen are sorry, but not sorry. They're not going to tell the FBI what they saw.
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Ellen isn't willing to raise the alarm and be disbelieved again.
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Okay. Nightmare. What do you think?
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It needed at least one more pass before someone filmed it.
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Yeah. Okay. I'll go with that. I'll go with that. There's a few things in this that don't quite gel.
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I can think of two off the top of my head. I'll take the first one,
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the narrator, or maybe the second one, either way.
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The narrator starts off by telling
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us that Grady is 30 miles from the geographical center of the country.
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And later in the episode, Vincent says it's three miles.
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Three miles. Yeah. Yeah, I noticed that too.
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Don't know if that was a script problem or maybe Vincent read the line or who knows. But yes.
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Interestingly enough, there is a town about three miles from the geographical
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center of the United States, but it is Lebanon, Kansas.
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Yes, it is. And it's close to the Nebraska border.
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Not close to Wichita as seen in that picture.
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Precisely.
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Now, I thought I was going to get one of those.
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Well, I figured this was a fictional town because that's what they do.
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But you know it could have been based on a
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real town and they just pretending to be you know
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give it a different name but i thought it was going to get get
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a sneaky one up because i thought that i had read somewhere or even seen a documentary
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on it that you know the geographical center is a thing that they measure through
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gonna guess calculus because it depends on how accurately you measured the,
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curves and the shapes of the of the coast
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right so it has happened in
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several i can i can say for a fact that there is a
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monument in taiwan that says this is the geographic center of taiwan and you
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can stand at that monument and you can have your picture taken and like i am
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at the geographical center of taiwan but in fact it has been moved up a hill
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about 150 200 meters as they measure the island more accurately.
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And then you go up there and there's a second monument. This is the actual one. That's the old one.
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And I could swear I had seen a documentary about the competing towns for the
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geographical center of the United States.
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But as far as I can tell, according to the Wikipedia entry, it has not moved since 1912.
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So, okay, I must be wrong.
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Or maybe it's the geographically center of the united states including alaska
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and hawaii which is much further north and west well i took it where that is i took.
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It to be the center of the contiguous.
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Yes kansas is the center is the center of the contiguous u.s that's right and
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but it moved when we added alaska and hawaii yes.
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That would make sense.
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But i that's not what you're talking Oh.
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I got all geeky on this and I went and I checked the maps and I pulled up Google
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earth and I got a picture of the, uh, the marker at the geographical center.
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And it was really, I did.
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Yeah. I mean, if you don't have a ball of string, next best thing,
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geographical center of the continent.
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Yep.
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Or the country.
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I wonder where the geographical center of the continent is. Hmm.
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Good question.
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That might be closer to Arizona.
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Maybe. Because you have to take Mexico and so forth. Yes. And Canada goes in.
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You have to consider the ancient islands. And yeah.
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Yeah. All that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Did they count it to the Panama Canal?
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Is that where the official break is now?
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I think it may.
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I'm sure somebody's worked it out.
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Yeah. Someone has.
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I'm sure it's worked something out. I, you know what I, the one thing I think
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about this episode is this is the weirdest one yet.
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This is the most alien wacko idea.
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All the others have been, you know, we take over somebody's mind or we take
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over a business, you know, kind of spy infiltration stuff.
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This is science fiction infiltration stuff
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uh with you know with the insects and and and that is fitting because we can't
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go any further without acknowledging that this was written by john newbel i
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looked that up and john newbel is you know the second i saw that name i'm like dr loveless,
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on Wild Wild West.
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This is his...
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I don't want to say it's his claim to fame, because the man does have a bunch
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of other things, but not a lot of stuff you would see in television.
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Well, on the other hand, he did write Bread and Circuses for Star Trek.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And because I have certain guilty pleasures, including very bad science fiction
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From 1958, The Screaming Score.
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That's the other big one that people might know him from. But I went through his episodes.
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For some reason, I was thinking that he only wrote Dr. Loveless episodes.
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But he did, I don't know, two, four, six, eight. Eight episodes for the series.
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And five of them are Dr. Loveless episodes.
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That's The Night the Wizard Shook the Earth, The Night the Terror Stalked the
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Town, The Night of the Murderous Spring, The Night of the Green Terror,
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The Night of the Surreal McCoy.
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And just to give you some idea, The Night of the Wizard Shook the Earth was
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kind of, I don't want to say boring, but this is the introduction of Dr.
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Lovus, the brilliant genius who's invented television and flying machines and
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a super explosive and he's an outsider and he feels like he deserves a birthright.
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It's not the craziest of the stories but
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the night terror stalked the town gosh
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i don't even remember which one that is oh i
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think that's the one where they he created plastic
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surgery double of jim west and he
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created a town that was surrounded by an electric
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fence and it was filled with mannequins and
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phonographs and stuff it's an odd one the
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murderous spring he invented lsd or a
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murderous version of lsd and he was going to drop it in
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the water supply and cause everyone to kill each other green terror
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he invented a robotic knight in armor
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and was pulling the robin hood thing and the surreal mccoy is the one where
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he creates dimensional portals he can create paintings that are actual worlds
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and then using a tuning fork arrangement can pass through them into other dimensions.
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It's like, Noobull definitely.
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Was on a different plane. Yes.
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And even the other ones that he wrote, like The Night of the Man-Eating House,
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which was a ghostly house that caused people to age, The Night of the Returning
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Dead, I think, was probably a backdoor pilot.
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That one's the one that had Sammy Davis Jr. in it, helping Jim and Artie with
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his psychic powers by pretending to be a Confederate ghostwriter.
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And the one that stands out though and it's not one that I care about it's the
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Night of the Two-Legged Buffalo,
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and it stands out because it features I don't want to say Samoan but Pacific Islander of some kind,
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prince coming to the United States to be educated and to sign peace decrees
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and really he wants to start a war and bring his proud traditions back to his
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island instead of being a vassal state to the United States, that kind of thing.
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And when you know that John Newble was in fact raised in Samoa,
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is half Samoan, but was a well-educated man.
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It kind of fits because there's this, there's this theme now that like Dr.
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Loveless is a guy who is outside, right?
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And, and Nubal's work seems to present a lot of that kind of, but also weird.
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So this is, to my mind, this is also the first weird episode of the invaders.
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So it fits in that way.
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You know, I like weird.
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I like weird when when someone does
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it well this is one where okay i'm
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this i've watched this episode twice and the last time was when the within the
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last 24 hours of this and the second time around i was watching for one detail or you're trying.
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To figure out what the heck was going.
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On with the.
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Locusts and the.
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Dust the dust that was the second time around because i was looking for other
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details the first time around that doesn't.
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Make any sense does.
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It no and i was thinking there's no dust in the town when the locusts are flying around i.
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You know oddly enough this is more like the third or fourth time i've watched
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it i don't know and once just very recently,
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and again this is one of the episodes that i wrote a blog entry for fusion patrol
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quite a long time ago, and I was ragging on the fact that it doesn't quite make sense.
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There's a disconnect between what are they doing?
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Do you have a machine that can draw the locusts in to swarm, or do you have a dust?
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Because the dust is everywhere. The dust is on the crops when Ellen is running
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through them. We see that.
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The dust is on the crops when Vincent is running through them.
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We see that. We see Vincent find the thing of dust and kind of sniff it and
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compare it to the dust that's all over him from the fields to really drive home
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the fact that this bowl is the dust that's out on the crops,
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which presumably they're dusting with, quite literally crop dusting with.
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And so, you know, if all they need to do is to spray this dust on something
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and the bugs will eat, eat it, then what do you need to control the locusts for?
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And if you can control the locusts, what do you need the dust for?
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There is a, there's a huge disconnect.
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And I think on the last watch, it kind of, I don't want to say exactly,
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I think I know what they were going for.
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The dust makes the insects eat the crops or whatever it's on.
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And we'll come to the meat here in a little bit. But you put it on crops and
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the pests are drawn to it and will attack it and eat it voraciously.
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As they did in one scene.
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And that should be good enough, right? That, that should be good enough to wipe out our crops.
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But then the second thing is they have a device which can actually cause locusts
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to swarm and come to a location. So you get the locusts to swarm because that is not a phenomenon.
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That is not a phenomena that happens without specific conditions.
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And then the, once the locusts are swarm, they've got the dust all over it and
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they're going to make sure that they clean it out.
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But it's not very clearly It's like a two stage attack It's drawing a swarm
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And then have the plate laid out For them This is an extra tasty plate For you,
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I, I think that's where it's going, which is, does make more sense than my first
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pass through where it's just like, I don't get it.
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But then there's the scene with the chunk of meat, which is very,
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I wish it was a chunk of ham because then I could say it was very ham fisted.
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But unfortunately, I don't think that was a chunk of ham. so i
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think that was that was very low quality
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meat but whatever it was i think it was a cow of some kind you know just sitting
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there waiting for someone to put powder on it and stick in with the butterflies
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with the butterflies and this messes up my whole system because the butterflies,
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without the the waves or anything you put that in there the butterflies are
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all like whoa i'm on that and they swarm,
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which is a creepy shot, a little fake, but creepy shot, and then strip it to
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the bone. You're like, wow.
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So their plan is to get people covered in the dust and have them eaten?
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Well, let's continue with the butterfly theme.
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But butterflies can't eat meat.
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No, they can't. And on top of that, toward the end of the episode,
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is Constable, the invader Constable, whom Vincent pushes into the butterfly tank.
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He gets eaten off screen and we see the red glow.
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But was he in dust?
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I don't know. I mean, I guess he's been out in the fields, but so is everyone there.
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Yes, but he didn't look especially dusty.
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No, no, he did not.
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This is why I say that this script needed at least one more pass.
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It definitely, I think it definitely needed a polish. And, you know, okay.
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I say butterflies can't eat meat. You say, oh, but it's the invaders.
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I'm like, okay, fine. Let's go there.
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Butterflies don't have any mouth parts, right?
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By the time they become butterflies, they have given that up for a little sippy straw.
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And you could then rightly go but these are insects mutated or changed by the
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invaders and my question is are they it's like are they they don't why no.
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I don't see.
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Why butterflies you know got locusts already yes.
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They're locusts are doing what locusts do.
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You you don't need butterflies and so you have to go to the trouble of let's
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let's use genetic engineering for the sake of argument genetically re-engineer
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butterflies so that they have mouths that can eat flesh,
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so that you can put something on the flesh so
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that butterflies will eat it i don't i mean
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apart from the fact that it's creepy seeing butterflies eat flesh and you go
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oh that's like the friendliest it you know apart from ladybugs butterflies and
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ladybugs are like the friendliest bugs you can get right people are like oh
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ladybugs and butterflies how cute and then seeing them devour things and and
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eat meat and you're like, oh,
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we are totally screwed as a race if the butterflies start eating us.
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But it doesn't make sense to waste your time doing that when you've got the
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locusts and locusts are really good at destroying crops and locusts are really
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good at destroying crops.
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And people know locusts are really good at destroying crops.
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So you have the plausibility factor there.
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Like nobody you know if locusts
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eat a town of crops david vincent isn't gonna
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just go oh locusts eating a town's worth of crops that
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must be the invaders not right if it weren't if it weren't for the box and the
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people trying to kill her and you know they're trying to control it made it
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into the news vincent would never have come to grady kansas because of some
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locust attacks but if somebody had said butterflies had,
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you know, stripped the flesh off my farm animals,
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Vincent would be there.
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So, yeah.
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Yeah, and locusts are one of the most anciently feared insects.
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Since antiquity, there have been swarms of locusts destroying crops.
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Unless you only have one, one solitary lone locust, then they're just rattling
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against the world in rage.
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Yeah nothing as sad as a single solitary locust.
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I know,
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i did freeze the frame on the newspaper article about the third locust attack
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i believe i sent you the screen capture and aside from the headline all the
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text around it is perfect gibberish.
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Good for them. Good for them.
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I mean, those are actual words around it, but they don't say anything when you
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put them together in that order. Text.
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Yeah.
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And back in 1967, nobody was going to freeze the frame in 1967.
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Not to mention that, and think about this for a second. I have a personal anecdote.
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So once again, this comes back to Taiwan.
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When I first went to Taiwan in 1998, and when I first met my wife,
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my wife had a series of, you can buy a lot of shirts in the night markets.
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And a lot of the shirts in the night markets have text on them in English,
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because English is cool.
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But it doesn't make any sense.
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Chinglish, right?
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Yes. But here's the thing about Chinglish. You can't make a shirt.
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You can't do it. I would challenge you to write something that is as wrong as Chinglish.
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It is if you are a native speaker of english your brain even when you're making gibberish,
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doesn't make gibberish the way they can
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make gibberish i can't even i can't even
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remember any of the shirts my wife had and i laughed
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hilarious and i had some of my own hilariously funny and every time i'd see
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them i would laugh but i could not 15 minutes later tell you what it said because
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my brain just simply refuses to put the words in the order that they are on the page.
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I saw an article once that was pointing out that even though we don't teach
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these rules, there is a rule to the order you put adjectives in front of nouns.
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And people will automatically fall into that pattern time and time again.
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The big green dog. It's never the green big dog.
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Just isn't. You don't do it that way. And that's kind of what it's like.
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So it's hard to write gibberish.
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Somebody had to type gibberish.
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Yes.
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I mean, not saying that, you know, they're Taiwan level gibberish there,
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but somebody had to type gibberish.
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It's harder to write gibberish than it is to just type down stuff that isn't gibberish.
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So who is the poor soul who had to make up the rest of the gibberish paper?
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I wonder to.
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You know, it's not like lorem ipso that you can just fill in with a word processor now.
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If you pull up the screen capture I sent you a couple weeks ago,
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or whatever it was, and you magnify it, you look at it, and it's like the words
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make sense in the order they're in.
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But they're not saying anything. It's not saying anything. I'm thinking,
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who had the job of writing that? Wow.
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Somebody whose first job in Hollywood. I'm a writer. i'm a
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hollywood writer i wrote the newspaper in the episode nightmare
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the invaders check it out yeah on
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dvd and blu-ray i wish it was on blu-ray i think it's a lot easier yeah yeah
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this i i that's my biggest this story i love the premise i love the premise
00:25:44.055 --> 00:25:47.695
of this story but i i i wonder there There are some holes in it.
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What is the point of this plan?
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To starve? That's a good question. I'm guessing it's to starve out the United States.
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You know, you can break down society if nobody has any food to eat.
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And I think in particular, in the 1960s, the Midwest was not just the United
00:26:09.695 --> 00:26:12.695
States powerhouse, but the world powerhouse.
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The breadbasket of the world.
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Yeah. You know, there are other places like Soviet Georgia, I believe is one
00:26:20.695 --> 00:26:26.335
of the bread baskets, but they had their problems being Soviet. Yeah.
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So then this would starve out some other parts of the world, too.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah. And, you know, if the United States falls into disarray because they can't
00:26:37.949 --> 00:26:41.409
feed their people, you know, what happens?
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And this is, you know, we're the good guys.
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I'm just going to come out and say, you know, we're the United States.
00:26:47.329 --> 00:26:50.409
We're the good guys. But, you know, if we were starving, you know what we would do.
00:26:51.249 --> 00:26:51.609
Yes.
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We'd invade Canada or Mexico or somewhere else. I mean, if we needed food,
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we would do it for all our high-minded ideals.
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Well, we do it for oil.
00:27:06.909 --> 00:27:11.309
Yes, we do it now for oil. So, sure, we do it for food.
00:27:11.809 --> 00:27:17.129
And of course, you would also have a lot of internal strife where people were
00:27:17.129 --> 00:27:23.389
perhaps riots, perhaps, you know, could be mass death from famine.
00:27:23.749 --> 00:27:26.269
That's going to keep the authorities busy.
00:27:27.489 --> 00:27:31.909
In 1960s, I think, you know, you could be forgiven in thinking that the world
00:27:31.909 --> 00:27:34.769
might fall into turmoil if the United States toppled.
00:27:35.329 --> 00:27:38.469
Because, you know, who else would protect you from those evil, nasty Soviets?
00:27:38.769 --> 00:27:44.109
And I'm pretty sure the invaders will have no problem taking down the Soviets. And why aren't they?
00:27:44.309 --> 00:27:47.869
I wonder, here's something I've wondered about the series.
00:27:47.889 --> 00:27:53.009
Because I realize people filmed it in and around Southern California.
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My guess was the Imperial Valley.
00:27:55.829 --> 00:28:00.309
Yes, and I did look up the setting, but it's around Hollywood.
00:28:00.589 --> 00:28:03.209
It's a studio backlog town.
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Not some of those fields.
00:28:07.229 --> 00:28:08.629
But… Yeah, somewhere, yeah.
00:28:09.696 --> 00:28:15.236
Yeah, so somewhere around there. And so all these locations were doubling as
00:28:15.236 --> 00:28:18.376
places in the United States because David Vincent had to be able to get there.
00:28:19.616 --> 00:28:24.156
But think about this. If we take the premise of the series seriously,
00:28:24.516 --> 00:28:27.656
then there are invaders all over the world.
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Probably.
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Including behind the Iron Curtain.
00:28:31.456 --> 00:28:34.856
Or, or, and hear me out.
00:28:35.016 --> 00:28:35.416
Yes.
00:28:36.036 --> 00:28:38.996
America's the only one that counts. i say that tongue
00:28:38.996 --> 00:28:43.156
in cheek but you know to the mindset of 1960s you
00:28:43.156 --> 00:28:47.376
know take us down the rest of the world's nothing there is
00:28:47.376 --> 00:28:51.556
that i don't know you know it's possible that vincent will go to other countries
00:28:51.556 --> 00:28:56.296
at some point but you know they're going to look like southern california like
00:28:56.296 --> 00:29:00.576
like in these fields where you could see the mountains in the distance it's
00:29:00.576 --> 00:29:03.856
like you don't see that in kansas you don't.
00:29:03.856 --> 00:29:10.256
By the way fun scientific speaking of kansas a little aside they there is the
00:29:10.256 --> 00:29:13.276
website improbable.org.
00:29:13.276 --> 00:29:16.616
Has talk about the mountain in kansas you.
00:29:16.616 --> 00:29:23.916
Know it has offers scientific evidence that kansas is flatter than a pancake.
00:29:26.236 --> 00:29:29.356
Well it's uh it's not
00:29:29.356 --> 00:29:33.396
well i don't know pancakes aren't actually that flat if you think about it they
00:29:33.396 --> 00:29:38.696
got all that yeasty and rising and stuff but yeah kansas is kansas is flat and
00:29:38.696 --> 00:29:49.036
i'll give it that that is that is some geographically scraped clean by blazer it's like yeah yeah but.
00:29:49.036 --> 00:29:54.076
Here i wrote this down the filming location at least for the town was at samuel
00:29:54.076 --> 00:29:55.956
goldwin studio west hollywood.
00:29:57.962 --> 00:29:59.882
Okay. Where did that come from?
00:30:00.162 --> 00:30:02.162
That came from the IMDB page.
00:30:02.622 --> 00:30:06.902
The IMDB page that immediately right after it says, we don't have any information
00:30:06.902 --> 00:30:08.502
on filming locations from this.
00:30:09.102 --> 00:30:13.122
Because I saw that, and I think the whole series is filmed at Sam Goldwyn.
00:30:13.362 --> 00:30:18.682
Yes, but for this episode, I did look up.
00:30:18.682 --> 00:30:20.042
That's definitely not Los Angeles.
00:30:20.242 --> 00:30:27.602
Yes. But yes, I do get interested when they go into a town somewhere.
00:30:27.962 --> 00:30:34.762
And I like to pull up the town on Google Earth and look at it because I'm that compulsive.
00:30:35.142 --> 00:30:37.382
But in this case, it's just a studio lot.
00:30:37.802 --> 00:30:42.442
Yeah, I think that's in error. I'm pretty sure that's in error.
00:30:42.762 --> 00:30:45.782
I'm pretty sure that's a real town, small town in California,
00:30:45.782 --> 00:30:52.482
because Quinn Martin Productions was famous for using location footage a lot. They were big on it.
00:30:52.642 --> 00:30:56.502
Just like the town in the pilot in Beachhead. Right.
00:30:56.662 --> 00:30:58.302
I mean, it's it's in the area.
00:30:59.152 --> 00:31:02.032
They're out there they didn't they
00:31:02.032 --> 00:31:07.492
don't have a double silo on their back lot at sam goldman and i just don't i
00:31:07.492 --> 00:31:11.752
don't buy it that's they they when they were standing in those fields and you
00:31:11.752 --> 00:31:19.512
could look out a long long way into the distance and it was nothing it was not los angeles.
00:31:19.512 --> 00:31:24.172
The field yes but i mean the town itself because i do know that some of these
00:31:24.172 --> 00:31:29.752
studios had those town streets with the houses on them and people could film
00:31:29.752 --> 00:31:37.932
entire series if they wanted or at least much of them just on the just on the city streets they.
00:31:37.932 --> 00:31:44.712
Yeah yeah i i went looking for the locations because i'm you know i wouldn't
00:31:44.712 --> 00:31:48.092
say i spent a huge amount of time in california but i've spent more time in
00:31:48.092 --> 00:31:54.252
california than any other state except for arizona and obviously yeah and that
00:31:54.252 --> 00:31:56.392
felt like the imperial Valley,
00:31:56.612 --> 00:31:59.912
but there are a couple of other places along the way that are similar between
00:31:59.912 --> 00:32:05.072
that and Los Angeles, and they would have stayed as close as they could, but anyway.
00:32:05.992 --> 00:32:09.152
So one of the things that does not make sense in this story,
00:32:09.592 --> 00:32:13.532
that's not quite the right word for it, but one of the things that feels like
00:32:13.532 --> 00:32:17.192
another pass might have been needed was,
00:32:17.892 --> 00:32:23.472
that whole opening and closing narration that talks about how little towns like
00:32:23.472 --> 00:32:26.232
Grady basically don't like outsiders.
00:32:26.992 --> 00:32:33.932
And come back to that theme of Mr. Newble being a perennial outsider, perhaps.
00:32:34.272 --> 00:32:37.172
But okay, I've lived in a small town.
00:32:39.050 --> 00:32:42.870
You know, sure, there's a little bit of that.
00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:48.370
There's definitely the, oh, he's just a newcomer.
00:32:48.450 --> 00:32:52.450
He's only lived here 15 years kind of mindset.
00:32:53.270 --> 00:32:59.370
So Vincent rolls into town and they're all like, Vincent, out of town guy.
00:32:59.610 --> 00:33:02.290
So what are they thinking about the fact that the constable,
00:33:02.530 --> 00:33:04.850
the deputy, the principal.
00:33:04.850 --> 00:33:06.490
The danielsons.
00:33:06.490 --> 00:33:11.070
The old little old lady have all come in within the last four months.
00:33:11.070 --> 00:33:16.190
I was wondering about that because on this if you don't think about this too
00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:19.270
deeply making the town have a podcast.
00:33:19.270 --> 00:33:20.010
If we don't.
00:33:20.010 --> 00:33:25.370
Exactly i know if you if you don't think about this more than two seconds then
00:33:25.370 --> 00:33:30.290
making the townspeople so hostile does create does,
00:33:31.030 --> 00:33:39.250
make it more difficult initially to tell who is an invader and who is just a hostile townsperson.
00:33:40.110 --> 00:33:44.050
But then he pointed out all these people have come in in the last four or so
00:33:44.050 --> 00:33:47.530
months, and then they seem fairly well established.
00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:52.210
And Gabbard bought a farm and brought in his family to work it.
00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:52.710
Yes.
00:33:53.150 --> 00:33:54.850
And they aren't mixers.
00:33:55.290 --> 00:33:56.670
Yeah, I remember that.
00:33:57.810 --> 00:34:07.410
It is it's it feels like a thing and let's face it ed does not need to be hostile
00:34:07.410 --> 00:34:11.110
to outsiders to dislike vincent no.
00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:14.490
Vincent is unlikable in the way he bad the way he's badgering.
00:34:14.490 --> 00:34:19.190
The teacher and this but the fact that he's just protective of ellen even if
00:34:19.190 --> 00:34:23.410
he wasn't badgering her he's just like, you know, she's been through enough.
00:34:23.570 --> 00:34:24.830
Leave her alone. Go away.
00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:30.770
He's got, he of all the people in this town has a perfect excuse and you can't, I'm not going to,
00:34:31.765 --> 00:34:37.065
go there. But the rest of the town wasn't necessarily all that hostile to him.
00:34:37.705 --> 00:34:40.005
Even Ames wasn't at first.
00:34:41.125 --> 00:34:46.905
He was acting protective of Ellen, or he appeared to be acting protective of Ellen.
00:34:47.165 --> 00:34:52.645
But he was playing his part better than Ed was, in a way.
00:34:52.805 --> 00:34:56.905
Because you go, oh, Ed must be the invader. It's like, no, not necessarily.
00:34:57.205 --> 00:34:58.745
I think Ed's just an idiot.
00:34:58.745 --> 00:35:01.565
You know oh that reminds me
00:35:01.565 --> 00:35:04.485
here i have the imdb page for the episode
00:35:04.485 --> 00:35:12.565
up on the other computer screen and robert emhart portrayed mr ames the invader
00:35:12.565 --> 00:35:22.985
and as it turns out he was one of those character actors and he specialized in villains so oh.
00:35:22.985 --> 00:35:23.525
Yeah he did.
00:35:23.525 --> 00:35:30.525
Yeah he got perfect fasting on this one you smiles and you ski and i don't i don't trust him.
00:35:30.525 --> 00:35:35.985
Yeah they've they've got and i wouldn't surprise me if he's in a lot of other
00:35:35.985 --> 00:35:39.205
quinn martin productions because they they have their little stable of actors
00:35:39.205 --> 00:35:42.305
that they love to to come back to over and over again.
00:35:42.305 --> 00:35:45.725
I mean certain types of parts i
00:35:45.725 --> 00:35:53.045
can check that right now he was let's see what he was in one episode of the
00:35:53.045 --> 00:36:03.305
streets of san francisco that's one uh he was let me see what else was quinn martin here the.
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Fugitive the fbi.
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He he was he was in he was in the fbi he was man called sloan yes uh he was he was in Mannix.
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I don't think Mannix is. I used to think Mannix was, and I think it's not.
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I think it was a competing company, but very similar.
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Very similar. He is in...
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A number of the show. He was in two episodes of the wild, wild west.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I I've seen him all the time.
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He's got that solicitous, but probably evil kind of character.
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He was in two episodes of the man from uncle, two episodes of Andy Griffith.
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He was in Daniel Boone. He was in gun smoke land of the giants.
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That's Irwin Allen. And I know he was in three episodes of Bonanza.
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He was, as I said, a character actor.
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Yeah. Yep. Yep. I, I recognize all of these people in this episode, except maybe Gabbard.
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He's not terribly familiar, but so we have the, the obviously animated scenes of the locusts.
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And I don't know, I feel a little bit like they tried to go with a little bit
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of Hitchcock. a little bit of the birds a little bit of north by northwest yeah.
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I see that.
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Um but not very well i mean these locusts are kind of lame you run through a
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door close the door shut the window brush them off hitchcock's hitchcock's locusts
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would have kept trying would have been coming.
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Through the door eventually.
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Yeah smacking it with their beaks and pounding it through so yes Then the locusts
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could have just eaten the wood. So.
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Yes. And of course, we mentioned North by Northwest. It's Cary Grant in that
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indestructible suit running through the field, trying to avoid the crop juster.
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Yeah, it wasn't exactly, it's not exactly a parallel in either case,
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but it was evocative of both of those films to me at the time I was watching it.
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Now, here's a scene that is right out of 1960s television that I was like, okay, I can see this.
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I can still see this. So there is the scene where Vincent is in a completely
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empty diner, except for the owner or the guy working it, right?
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And the, he calls the state police and they, of course, in turn,
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call the local police. Cause that's not a state police job.
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He should have said he was worried about the state police.
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We never hear what he actually told him to make this, the cop go,
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all right, all right, all right, we'll get somebody around there then.
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Like the, the sheriff's trying to kill me or the constable is trying to kill
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me. Or he should have said something, but he didn't.
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So they call the constable, the constable is coming. He sees the constable.
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So he runs back to where the phones are. Where are the phones? Phone or phones?
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That's our first question.
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Yes.
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Is there one phone or is there two?
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Remember that detail.
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Well, because you never see more than one phone. Because one phone is actually inside the men's room.
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Yeah.
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Is there a phone inside the ladies' room?
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We never saw it.
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Have you ever seen a phone inside the toilets?
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No.
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Neither have I, but okay, Vincent goes back.
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He steps into the men's room. He uses the phone there, but there's a little
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ante way out there. So there's a back door.
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There's a men's room. There's a ladies room and Vincent goes back there and
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does he run out the back door? I'm not sure.
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Gabbard shows up he he asked the the
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clerk the diner clerk whatever he's called you know where he goes he went back
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that way and and he runs in there he looks at the back door he pokes his head
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in the men's room looks around is vincent in there no he's not in there ah darn
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he got away and i'm thinking i'd be hiding in the ladies room.
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I mean he's gonna go who's gonna go looking in there.
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Yeah, that's right. He did not even think to look in the ladies restroom because
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no guy would ever go in there.
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I mean, that's not going to happen. Uh-uh. No way.
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That's beyond social norms, people.
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It's like, I think I would.
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I don't know. I mean, I know there's no one else in the diner.
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There's nobody in that bathroom.
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So that might be a place to hide because Gabbard might have put somebody out
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to check out the back door if he'd been smart.
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I mean, Vincent didn't have much choice, but still. Gabbard didn't even think to look in there.
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So even the invaders have that unwritten taboo.
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Can't go into the ladies room.
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There you go. Product of its time. And speaking of the state police,
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we were just talking there that reminded me of something.
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I have noticed a trope, just in these few episodes I've watched so far,
00:41:19.095 --> 00:41:22.075
that Vincent keeps calling the state police.
00:41:22.835 --> 00:41:27.695
Well, I think Vincent... I think in every situation, Vincent knows that the
00:41:27.695 --> 00:41:29.975
invaders have invaded the local police.
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Yes, and so he calls the state police. I just noticed that there's this pattern, right?
00:41:34.435 --> 00:41:38.275
I start connecting the lines and see patterns.
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Do you have state police?
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We have something called the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
00:41:43.915 --> 00:41:45.515
Hey, we don't have state police in Arizona.
00:41:45.915 --> 00:41:47.395
I mean, and they come in.
00:41:47.995 --> 00:41:51.155
We've got a Department of Public Safety, but that's basically highway patrol.
00:41:51.155 --> 00:41:56.535
Yes, we have Highway Patrol, and we have the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
00:41:56.535 --> 00:41:58.555
But there is no Georgia State Police.
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Yeah, I think that's a shorthand for call a higher level of copping.
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The GBI has jurisdiction in cases that cross county lines, and they also investigate
00:42:16.695 --> 00:42:20.395
any officer-involved shooting, automatic jurisdiction.
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I see it's going to vary from state to state, but if you don't give them reason
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to, if you don't give them reason that they have to be involved,
00:42:30.975 --> 00:42:33.115
they are going to turn it over to the local authorities.
00:42:33.335 --> 00:42:35.695
I mean, that's just what they're going to do.
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They don't have, they're right. They don't have the jurisdiction to go into
00:42:39.335 --> 00:42:43.875
barge into that town unless they're investigating the police themselves.
00:42:44.675 --> 00:42:50.955
And if Vincent doesn't make that case, they're not going to do anything but exactly what they did.
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Actually.
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The final scene.
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Yes.
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Vincent has gone to Ellen and Ed and they're like, come on, you got to go to the FBI.
00:43:01.055 --> 00:43:03.835
You got to tell them what you saw. You got to, it's like, but there's no proof, man.
00:43:04.035 --> 00:43:05.975
They're just going to laugh at us and they're just going to,
00:43:06.095 --> 00:43:08.515
they're going to call us crackpots and I can't go through that again.
00:43:08.695 --> 00:43:09.875
Can't you understand that?
00:43:10.155 --> 00:43:14.175
And Vince is like, no, I can't understand it. I was like, really? You?
00:43:15.355 --> 00:43:21.675
You can't understand that? Mr. The Crackpot Architect? You can't understand that?
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This is another reason this script needed another pass.
00:43:26.735 --> 00:43:33.815
Just in the episode Genesis, the cop wanted to go to the feds.
00:43:34.195 --> 00:43:39.675
And Vince is like, nah, we got no evidence. Don't bother. They'll just treat you like a loony.
00:43:40.235 --> 00:43:44.035
I mean, inconsistent writing. This is why there are script editors for...
00:43:44.035 --> 00:43:45.695
Well, there are now.
00:43:45.915 --> 00:43:47.575
Yes, there's supposed to be, right?
00:43:48.515 --> 00:43:50.915
I mean, there was a script editor, I'm sure, for this one, too.
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But I don't think it's not quite the same job as it is now. That's all I got on this episode.
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I have one more issue. Does Ed live in that house?
00:44:04.315 --> 00:44:13.795
I love that house. I made mention of that in my blog post as a random thing.
00:44:15.355 --> 00:44:19.215
That is either the that house
00:44:19.215 --> 00:44:26.075
that they use the exterior of the house that they use is either an actual practical
00:44:26.075 --> 00:44:29.495
house in a small town somewhere that they just thought this looks this is great
00:44:29.495 --> 00:44:36.995
and it is like the best you know that's the one you know that's the house,
00:44:37.855 --> 00:44:42.815
or it is the best piece of set dressing i've ever seen because that looks so
00:44:42.815 --> 00:44:45.695
much like a house that a guy is renovating.
00:44:46.335 --> 00:44:47.015
He does.
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He's getting married. He's building a new house. I don't know if he lives there
00:44:50.435 --> 00:44:54.735
or not, but I can totally see that he is getting that house ready.
00:44:55.175 --> 00:44:57.195
Of course, the inside's obviously a studio.
00:44:59.394 --> 00:45:04.414
I loved the detail of that house, just looking at it.
00:45:04.934 --> 00:45:09.154
I don't know why his phone works if he's not living there, so he probably is.
00:45:09.874 --> 00:45:14.374
But he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would have too much trouble living in paint fumes.
00:45:15.234 --> 00:45:21.294
I get your point there. Right. I just wondered, does he live there?
00:45:21.574 --> 00:45:26.994
Did he live somewhere else in town? Was he getting this ready? No.
00:45:27.454 --> 00:45:30.634
Yeah, we don't know what he does for a living either. maybe he's a handyman
00:45:30.634 --> 00:45:33.654
maybe he's a guy that just does that for a living,
00:45:35.254 --> 00:45:41.034
one thing about it though that is a you know okay fine right he's he's getting
00:45:41.034 --> 00:45:44.534
his house ready to get married but they actually give a detail that a year ago
00:45:44.534 --> 00:45:48.194
they were already on the verge of getting married he should have had the house ready then.
00:45:48.194 --> 00:45:53.114
Yes another pass what's he been doing for a.
00:45:56.432 --> 00:45:57.872
He's got to be, he's got to make a living.
00:45:58.052 --> 00:45:58.332
Yep.
00:45:58.692 --> 00:46:02.832
Got to make a living. Does this one in his spare time? So yeah.
00:46:03.632 --> 00:46:09.452
Anyway, our, our next episode of the invaders is doomsday minus one.
00:46:09.752 --> 00:46:10.732
Yes. I wrote that down.
00:46:11.532 --> 00:46:15.212
Yes. I don't, don't remember what it's about. And then I'll find out when I
00:46:15.212 --> 00:46:21.952
go look at it, but doomsday minus one, I'm sure it's something to do with doomsday.
00:46:22.192 --> 00:46:23.972
This sounds like a weapon in there somewhere.
00:46:25.292 --> 00:46:31.172
Well 1960s is probably a nuclear weapon oh that's a yeah okay that's an interesting
00:46:31.172 --> 00:46:35.152
idea we'll have to come back to that one when you look at it it's like what
00:46:35.152 --> 00:46:40.312
good would destroying the planet do to the aliens but you want the planet you
00:46:40.312 --> 00:46:42.992
just don't want the people on it yeah and.
00:46:42.992 --> 00:46:48.632
There's the whole question of what are the aliens really they have what's what's their physiology.
00:46:48.632 --> 00:46:54.372
Maybe they could live in the maybe they could live in the radiation who knows
00:46:54.372 --> 00:47:00.752
radiation slag it's just like home why did we ever leave well you'd think they
00:47:00.752 --> 00:47:04.292
could find a chunk of land like that somewhere in space we'll.
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Talk about that one next time.
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Exactly yeah thank you for joining me my pleasure and listeners i do hope you'll
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join us all again next time on fusion patrol.