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Welcome to the Derek Loudermilk Show. At the edge of possibility,
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we fuse science, spirit, and adventure alongside healers, scientists, pioneers,
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and mystics to turn potential into practice, create real results.
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Subscribe and join me on the adventure. Gil Petersil, welcome
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back to the podcast.
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Good to see you.
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Happy to be back all the way from Bali once again.
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Yes, love it. And actually, it occurred to me, I
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think your team mentioned something about you guys had done
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something at Bali Spirit Fest recently, and I was curious
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about that, what you guys did.
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Yeah, of course.
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So every year I take new challenges to find people
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What I would describe as some of the greatest events
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in the world for the conscience community, people in personal development,
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people in impact. And every year I try to identify
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ones that are ideally near where I am or potentially
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very much accessible so that we can have a true
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impact within the event itself for the audience that's coming in.
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And one of the events that I've been a big
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fan of is happening right here around the corner from
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where I live, Bali Spirit Festival. Last year was the
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first time that I, they asked me to become a
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speaker and that was really beautiful. You know, it's again,
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it's not everyone's cup of tea is an event, but
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it is quite an incredible event that attracts these conscience
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beings from around the world that want to come in
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and someone to celebrate, someone to look at the biohacking
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and longevity and like, how do we get healthy? And
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whether it's fascia maneuvers or whether it's yoga and meditation,
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it all comes together in five days. And, This year,
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we took over a massive place within the festival itself.
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We call it the co-creator zone. And within the zone itself,
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we created basically a partnership within everything else that I
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do in my life within the event itself. And the
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main purpose of the space itself is really to connect people.
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And the organizers realized that they never had any space
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like that. They had dancing spaces, they had eating spaces,
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They had workshop places, but it was all about people
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engaged by something else outside, not to engage with each other.
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So our space was dedicated to just help people connect.
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We created this kind of a networking wall that actually
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was called the Bali Spirit Web.
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It looked like a spider web in the beginning.
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By the end of the event, it looked like an
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art installation with hundreds and hundreds of little cards that
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you can kind of see both sides, what people wish for,
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what people are offering. It was different color coordination based
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on people wanting more collaborators. They're looking for love, looking
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for friendships, looking for mentors. It ended up becoming the
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number one space to visit the event. I loved, of course,
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that we integrated. My biggest passion these days is tea,
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whether it's a tea ceremony or tea salon. Connecting people
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over a cup of tea I've understood is a lifelong
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hack that we all need to learn.
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So we had.
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many tea masters and tea angels serving people tea as
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they were walking in. And because of my involvement with
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Human Garage, we had a lot of fascia maneuver coaches
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creating all these ongoing sessions that would get people to
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not just interact with their own bodies, which is really
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beautiful to see, but touch each other in a way
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where we're moving our fascia together. 15 hours a day,
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five days, number one space at the event. from all
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the feedbacks, organizers. We had Minister of Tourism come in
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to see us and like, what is this? We have
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never seen anything like that. And actually in the next
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couple of days, we've been invited by the minister to
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the number one wellness and beauty event in Indonesia. Very,
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very high end. 3,000 to 4,000 people are expected. Three-day event.
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And we're creating something very similar to what we did
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at the festival at a massive, super high-end, luxurious wellness
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event happening in one of the top hotels here in Bali.
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So creating such spaces has been my experiment and kind
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of my ikigai, my dharma, my mission in life for years.
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And I'm always trying to raise my standards with one mission,
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connecting people.
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Wow.
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And what I love about that is you said it
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was just kind of a mashup of all the things
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you're in. into and you just figured out how to
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get it all into one space. I talked to a
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lot of people that are, they have these like sort
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of diverse interests and they're trying to figure out how
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to like weave them all together, sometimes into an offering.
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How did you approach crafting that space?
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I love that.
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So what a beautiful question, you know, so in general,
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because I love experiences, I think that, the the idea
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that people have behind networking is really false we believe
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that networking is something we need in order to you
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know we need people or we use people in order
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to get what we want it's like so misaligned and
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misunderstood and like mislearned but for me networking are a
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set of spiritual practices, and the greatest way to experience
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that connection with other human beings is through an experience.
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So in the past, I would put together events, you know,
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whether it was some sort of a cooking class or
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a dancing class, experience together. And then we got into
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personal development with Tony Robbins and Eckhart Tolle.
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Again, amazing.
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You go to an event and you're experiencing something together
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that opens up your heart and you connect people. Over
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the last couple of years, I've had to let go
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of a lot of what I've been doing in my
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life because I got to this stage in my life
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where I'm like, hold on, you've been doing so much.
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It has to be easier and simpler to get the
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message across. And I took some time off. I went
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into a very deep meditative space. I went into a
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dark retreat for five days, which is life-changing on all fronts.
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And very, very deep dive into that. And I understood
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that one of my hobbies is which is bringing people
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together around the tea table, is more than just a hobby.
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So that has developed quite a lot in the last
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couple of years as a ecosystem, kind of a group
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of companies that is all about social infusions, infusing tea
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and tea service, and basically it's the new era of
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hospitality into events. And when you combine that passion And
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the understanding that in the world of networking, sometimes we
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need to get people's eyes off their phones. So people
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are using a lot of apps to connect with each other,
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whether it's dating apps, social media apps. So passion I've
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had for over a decade is get them off their
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phones and go old school, go billboard. You know, billboard
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where people would put like, this is what I'm offering,
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this is what I need.
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Pick a number.
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Like in the past, we would actually rip a card
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off and go home and call that person.
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Go back 30 years.
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Now, we've innovated a lot, and there is an easier
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way to do it where you could still use your phone,
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but you could use that phone to contact that person
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that put their card 30 minutes before you on that wall,
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and that card really resonates with you and you want
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to connect with them. And we've tried such walls over
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a thousand times in all different type of events, so
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every time it's very creative, it's very innovative, it's very
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kind of fresh for people.
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For me, it's like, oh, Gil, you're doing it again.
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Let's do it differently. Let's do it better.
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And of course, my new position with Human Garage, which
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is now one of the fastest growing wellness movement in
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the world, gives me access to all these amazing coaches,
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fascia maneuver coaches. So when I understood that they're giving
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me the space, which is basically two weeks before a
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massive festival of 3,000 people, they said, Gil, you got it.
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You don't have to pay $ 30, 000 to take over the
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space because I didn't want to have to pay to
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serve people. I'm like, guys, I'm not a vendor that's
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going to be selling something. I want to do a collaboration.
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I want to just serve this audience. I live in Bali.
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Allow me to serve. I'm not selling tea. I'm not
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selling coaching. I'm not selling networking. I'm just giving it
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to the audience. And most organizers don't get it. So
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it takes a little bit of, you know, pushing a
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little bit back and forth of negotiation to help people
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understand networking is, It is useful. It is more useful
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than dancing. It is more useful than a workshop because
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you can take networking home with you. You can meet soulmates.
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You can meet friends. And unfortunately, most event organizers around
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the world don't get it. These guys got it. They
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felt it. They're like, yes, Gil, let's do it. And
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within days, everything came together. A friend of mine said, Gil,
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what do you need? He gave me like 10 massive
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carpets so we can have a carpeted area that kind
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of looks more comfy. Another friend gave me like 100
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pillows so we can create these zones where people could
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just lounge. It's a place where you come to connect.
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You don't come to be on your phone. You come
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to connect with others. Another friend came and said, hey, listen, Gil,
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I got all these tea lights. Let's just put it together.
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And then it was fun because Some other people just said,
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you need help?
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Can we volunteer?
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And I ended up having 50 volunteers over the five days.
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And we're talking about professional adults that have jobs and
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businesses that came and gave their time, one purpose, to
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serve others so they can connect.
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This was the Bali Spirit Fest event.
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Wow.
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What I'm curious about from a running an event perspective
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is So managing all these people to come together and
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volunteer and all these things, how much are you delegating
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the running of the event versus actually making sure that
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everything is where it needs to be and your specific role?
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Because I'm thinking of times when I run retreats and
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there's this balance between the logistics and making sure people
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get where they need to go but sometimes it's nicer
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to have somebody who's doing that part. And you can
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sort of like have this big picture vision. How much
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are you like in it and how much are you
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sort of masterminding?
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Yeah, I love that.
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So, you know, working with Tony Robbins for many years,
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we learned to, sometimes you got to work in the business,
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but very often you got to work on the business.
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And it's a very different perspective to the management and
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the leadership. Now, Because I come from an events background
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with over 2,000 different type of events from large stadiums
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with Tony Robbins to hundreds of retreats and hundreds of masterminds,
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these days I don't have to organize the event myself anymore.
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So I partner up with the greatest event organizers in
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the world. Because I've known a Bali Spirit Festival's organizers
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for many, many years and they know me, there was
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an ability to come in and say, well, this space,
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you're usually renting it for $ 30, 000. I want it for free.
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And there was that ability, you know, this kind of,
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you need to have courage to be able to be
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ready to offer that much value and deliver on time,
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short timeline, small budget, like I got to deliver, you know?
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So it requires that level of confidence to be able to,
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Say to someone, you know, you're giving me a massive space.
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I'm not giving you any money. You've not seen me
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do this before for you. You're clearly taking a massive
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risk in me.
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Yes, I got to deliver. And that lights me up.
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The fact that I got someone that's trusting me, I'm like,
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I'm going to over deliver anything they can ever be
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expecting from us at this event.
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So I'm like, how do I raise the standards?
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And for me, I'm very much of a hands-on kind
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of guy. So I like being there in the mornings.
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I like usually being there the last one that leaves.
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I got energy.
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So I was there for 15 hours a day on average.
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On average, again, a massive festival with like 3,000, 4,000 people.
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On our stand itself, out of the 15 hours a
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day at the festival, I was probably on our stand
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for 14 hours a day. So I love that I
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had the energy, the space, the perseverance, the health to
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hold ground, to hold space. And because we have some
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amazing people that we know in the community and volunteers,
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there is a level of trust that I'm able to
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give for them to create this and innovate on this.
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And how about you guys do this? And what do
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you think of that?
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And, you know, to kind of instigate people that they
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can innovate themselves within some sort of a frame, because
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I've done it so many times, maybe they haven't. I
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can give them a small brief, a tease, but let
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them go ahead on their own. I think it's how
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we can empower a network at any given time. Don't
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give them all the answers. Give them a tease. Shine
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some light in the right direction. Because of my level
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of energy, I'm an Aries. I'm a generator in human design.
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I have a lot of energy that comes through, especially
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when passion gets in there and I know what I'm doing.
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That upsets some people. Yeah.
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And there was definitely a handful of the volunteers that
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didn't show up the next day because I'm too much
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for them. But also maybe they were not the right
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volunteer for us because maybe they came in wanting to
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do something they wanted to do instead of doing something
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that we wanted to do together as a community to
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serve the greater good.
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And that we always learn.
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There's always an understanding of having some people that are
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maybe on a spiritual journey and maybe they just want
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to volunteer to get a free ticket. That sometimes happens. Just, sure,
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I'll volunteer. They come and get a free ticket and
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you never see them again. And there's some people that
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really show up and even though they just committed for
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three hours on day one, they'll show up again and
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again because it's like, it's somehow they feel the karmic
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approach where like, I feel like I'm not just giving
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to receive, but I'm feeling like I'm receiving so much.
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And some people feel the immediate kind of reciprocity almost
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of like, I just connected two people together and wow,
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someone is coming and connecting me.
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Like people feel that like if.
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I'm giving love, if you're sensitive enough, you'll feel love
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right away coming back to you. And like I've volunteered
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for years and a big part of my networking journey
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is to just give back and to have the how
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can I help you mindset It's a mindset, it's one
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of my top three pillars when I teach people about
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quantum networking mechanics. The how can I help you mindset
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could stay in our mind. So looking around an event
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where you're looking to connect with people, having in your
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mind the how can I help you mindset and the
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complementary mindset really helps connect in our mind, in our soul.
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So we feel better, it's easier to connect. But having
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the how can I help you mindset when you're actually
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taking action, you're volunteering, you're an intern, you're supporting your
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help desk. Like I volunteered at hundreds of events in
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my life. And in my early twenties, when I moved
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to London and England, and I was brand new in England,
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I volunteered for charity events very selfishly. I understood from
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one of my mentors, you want to meet nice girls,
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go volunteer at a charity event. And usually the girls
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who are volunteering, they're very nice girls. And I was like, okay, that's, But.
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That's a really smart networking hack.
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When we volunteered an Eckhart Tolle event, we conceived a baby.
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Literally.
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I went and I volunteered with my partner at the time.
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We volunteered at an Eckhart Tolle event. Recently married, trying
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to make babies. Too much stress in life. We let
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go of our phone. We let go of our kind
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of other identities. We just came to serve. We just
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came to make a difference. Seven day retreat. Came out
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of it pregnant. Like, So I believe that when we
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volunteer and we give our time, there's this beautiful balance
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of how much we can really get back. And I'm
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always telling people, hey, we're doing these events all over
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the world.
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You know, these are chati.
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My movement is called chati. Cha means tea for billions
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of people in the world in Asia. And tea is tea.
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But chati is about being chati. And we want people
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to be more chati over a cup of tea. So
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we tell people, come and chati with us and See
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if you can help people chat with each other.
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I mean, it's a great.
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You already have the people there for the events. It's
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a perfect situation to enhance their ability to connect. I'm
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wondering about if you have... By the way, I'm an
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Aries generator as well. I'm wondering if you picked anything
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up from Tony Robbins to have the type of energy
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to go for 15 hours. Because I know he has...
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done some pretty amazing like long event days himself.
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Is there anything sort of energetically or physically wise that
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helps you prepare to, to be on for so long?
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Yeah, a hundred percent.
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So, you know, I've been into Tony since the age
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of 18 and I was kind of in and out
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of his education.
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I met him when I was 33.
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We went to his first event and I didn't meet
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him personally, but I just kind of, I was there.
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Personally at the event. I ended up meeting him at
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the next year.
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So this was 2013 was the first time I brought
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a small group to a Tony Robbins event. And I
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brought a small group because I couldn't afford to go.
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And I found a hack.
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Do you become a promoter and bring 25 people? You
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can come in for free. That was my hack.
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And then in 2014, instead of 25 people, we brought
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200 people.
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And we ended up meeting up with Tony.
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And one of the questions and one of the comments
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I made to him is like, I have no idea
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how you do it. We've been here for the last
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four days with you and you're on stage every day, 12, 15,
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17 hours.
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How, how, how?
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And his answer was very, very beautiful. He's a very
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humble person, but of course he's got a lot of
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these hacks. He's got the supplements. He's got the nutritionist.
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He knows how to eat and drink and he knows
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that he has a small trampoline in the backstage jumping
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up and down for a couple of minutes.
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Epic way to wake everything up.
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But his comment to me was very beautiful and because
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we were chatting for a few minutes right before, he
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understood who I was and what I was doing for him.
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And he said, well, you already know the answer. It's
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the network that's in front of me. Like, they're giving
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me the energy. I'm serving them. I'm here to bring
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them value and I'm We're exchanging the energy. And the
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more energy I'm able to see and receive from them,
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the more energy I have to give back and raise
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my hand and clap my hands and be up there
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serving at that level. And that stuck with me for
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years because... I'm definitely not someone that was born with
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this I'm an introvert by nature I've had I've been
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an immigrant since the age of 10 with English being
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my third language so I used to be this shy
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boy that would never get on stage or never hold
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a microphone you know until really my 30s holding a
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microphone was not really my thing I would sometimes speak
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in front of my team, but that also made me
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very nervous and sweaty. And the energy part of things,
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I think a lot of us understand that energy comes
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from good sleep. If you're gonna get on stage, make
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sure you sleep well. Healthy quality of water, infused water
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is better than regular water, hydrogen water, make sure the
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nutrition is really, really key.
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Number three is nutrition.
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It's a very long conversation, but I don't believe in
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heavy meals before getting on stage. If I'm on stage,
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for example, at a Bali Spirit Festival of 15 hours,
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I'll eat a strong breakfast, nothing heavy, a strong, beautiful breakfast,
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and that's it. I will not eat anything the whole day,
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maybe a.
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Couple of fruits.
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I'll have enough energy from the event to last me,
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no problem. Like, you know, food I find kind of
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sometimes slows me down. If I feel that I need it,
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I'll go and have it. But realistically, we've been programmed
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that we need three meals a day, which is complete BS.
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So it's those three things. And then the biggest one
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is the networking. It's ensuring that when we're connecting with people,
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we don't give one person too much of our energy
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in an event.
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There's no need.
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Some people without knowing they're actually suckers. They suck energy.
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They don't even know it. It's not their fault. I'm not,
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I'm not judging them. They just don't know it, that
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they're just sucking my energy right now. And you know,
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anyone could learn to develop this sensitive ability to feel
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that out. And, um, I sometimes don't shake everyone's hands.
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I don't want to hug everybody. A lot of people,
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you want to hug, hug, hug, hug. No, no, no.
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I'll bow down. I've learned, hey, nice meeting you. Good
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meeting you. Good luck, you know.
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Sometimes if I feel that someone doesn't have the right
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energy in front of me or if like it's like
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they just want my energy right now, which is okay.
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It's fair. Some people love my energy and I want
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to give it and I want to serve. But sometimes
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I'll find that like, hey, how about we connect another
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time maybe online and Ask me these questions. I'm very
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happy to follow up with you with a voice message.
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For now, why don't you come and check out the
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tea that we have here and I'll pass them off
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to someone else.
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I'll hand them over. I'll help them move.
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You know, crowd control is very, very important when it
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comes to event management. You don't want people to be stuck.
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You don't want traffic. And the worst thing is you
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don't want traffic on you. Like just, you know, it's
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just traffic waiting to talk to you. You want people
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to be able to move, to flow. The energy is moving.
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It's much better.
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That reminds me of, uh, I used to do a
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lot of comedy improv and there's some practice exercises you
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do where you have to leave and then come back
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on this in the scene. And you constantly have to
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justify like, Oh, I have to go, I have to
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go get something that we're, that we're using. And, um, it's,
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it's almost the same thing where you're like, if you
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want to keep things moving, you have to have like
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a justification in order to, to move things along.
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Um, I've learned how to do that.
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The power of disconnection is a very important skill that
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people need to learn. Disconnection comes in very, very many levels,
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like physically and philosophically and psychologically and emotionally, because for
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years I've been teaching people about connection, how to connect,
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how to approach someone, how to start a conversation, how
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to find someone online, how to engage, how to manage
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a conversation.
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I've never spent too much time on disconnection. Just a
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little bit.
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I've taught people how to end the conversation and move
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away respectfully, for example. Saying, hey, it sounds like we
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have a lot in common. Why don't we continue this
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conversation during the week over a cup of tea? Can
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we exchange information? Let me follow up with you. Maybe
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Tuesday or Thursday would work out for you. There's no
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need to meet someone at an event and talk to
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them for 30 minutes. I don't care if they're your
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best potential partner. If they're your soulmate... and you came
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that evening looking for a soulmate, sure, stick with them.
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If that was your priorities of the night, to meet
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the love of your life, your soulmate, and you met them, sure,
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don't disconnect. But if you met someone that you have
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some good rapport with them, they might really be good
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at what they're doing. You might be really good. Maybe
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astrologically you're very compatible, so you like each other. There's
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no need to close the deal tonight. I don't believe
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in one night stands personally or business-wise.
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So.
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connect and disconnect so you can reconnect again. And it's
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the same thing if the conversation is not going anywhere
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after three to five minutes and you just don't like it,
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like you feel like they're complaining about traffic, about politics. Say, hey,
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by the way, I'm curious, what were your priorities in
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coming here this evening? Or like, who are you hoping
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to meet this evening? Because just to let you know,
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I'm currently very much looking to meet some people in
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the marketing space that can help me.
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Maybe you know someone at this event.
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And you then give them a minute to tell you
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who they want so they understand that it's not you.
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And then you tell them, well, if I meet someone
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like that tonight, I'd love to introduce them to you.
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It was really nice meeting you, Jacob.
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I'll see you soon.
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And you find a way to disconnect, but you're also
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leaving them with an opportunity to reconnect.
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Or you just say, hey, listen, it sounds like.
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You've had an amazing journey until this point in your business.
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Congratulations on everything you've done.
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I'm going to go and grab a glass of water
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and see if I can meet some new people to
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connect with.
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Maybe we'll stay in touch and we'll see you soon.
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And that's it.
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People should feel comfortable to disconnect, but they need practice.
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In disconnection, you can disconnect during an event. You can
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also disconnect from a job, disconnect from a country. You
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can disconnect from a relationship. Disconnection is quite profound as
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a topic to bring up generally, not just in events,
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but in life.
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Yeah, that's very elegant how you presented that. It's like
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we're going to disconnect, but there's this opportunity and it
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still feels like you're being of service.
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Yeah. Yeah, I love that.
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It sounds like you mentioned the managing the physical and
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the sleep and the food and stuff like that, but
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there's a large non-physical, a large energetic component in how
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you're reading people and how you're managing your own state
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throughout a long event like that. And I'm really interested
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in the energetics of business and the energetics of people
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and I'm curious, since we talked last three years ago,
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I've been thinking a lot more about how business, an
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organization will have its own sort of collective consciousness to it.
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And things like marketing are perhaps energetically operating a little
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differently as consciousness progresses and evolves. What have you seen
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that's maybe different no longer working the same way that
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it did in the spaces that you're familiar with and
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what's working really well right now?
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Yeah. Wow. What a beautiful question.
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So, you know, since we spoke in our last podcast together,
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my life has completely changed.
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All right.
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All business, personal, completely. On a personal level, speaking of disconnection,
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my partner and I, married for 13 years, three kids,
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businesses together, had a 12-hour conversation and decided that we're
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going to uncouple. And it's been a very beautiful two-year
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journey to go so deep into this myself and love
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this journey that why are all these people so afraid
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of it? Why are they getting divorces and separated and
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breaking up Why does it need to be negative? Like
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13 years is a massive accomplishment these days.
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Massive.
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Happily uncoupling. Still having love for each other. Managing to
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find time to cuddle with each other and the kids
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together because the love is there. But choosing to not
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be husband and wife. Massive personal experience that I'm still
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going through.
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It's a journey.
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And the beauty thing is that it's taken me on
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a deep journey of studying this part of disconnection of networking.
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So I've had to now also learn how do we
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disconnect from companies? How do we disconnect from networks? How
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do we leave networks behind to make space for another network?
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What does it mean to leave clients behind? Clients are
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paying you thousands of dollars every month.
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What does it mean to let them go?
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Like, wow, profound, deep, deep journey where again, two and
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a half years ago, I let go of most of
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my clients and I started a movement called Chati. It
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00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.109
started initially with like this vision that had 18 different
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revenue models. And then I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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that's too much Gil, don't do that. So I was like, okay,
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stick with seven. And I literally set up seven companies
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all at the same time to test them out and
553
00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:28.200
to try to understand where is this world of events
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and connection going?
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Like, where, Gil?
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This is clearly, you know, your destiny. This is your ikigai.
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This is your dharma. This is your mission in life.
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This is a part of the destiny of of what
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you're meant to leave behind. How are you, you know,
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where is that quantum leap where you're not just getting
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better and better every time. It's when you need 3,000
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events to figure it out. You've done 2,000 already.
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Stop, you know.
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And that's what overcame me. And I was like, okay.
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I need to do something profoundly different and more impactful.
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And this is where Chati was born and developed. And
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what I've seen change so much is, and I love
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that because I'm in the industry of seeing people connect
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for business or for personal reasons. And I'm not in
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one industry. Like I love the lifestyle industry. I love
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the wellness industry. I love the beauty industry. I love
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health industry and food industry.
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I love everything.
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There's some industries that I choose not to go to.
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So I choose not to go to events that's all
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about alcohol or tobacco or car industry. Yeah, nice to
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have electrical cars, but I'm not interested in some of
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these industries. So in the last couple of years, I've noticed,
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number one, alcohol is going down significantly in the world,
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meaning that people are understanding that alcohol is not what
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we've been programmed to know. We've been programmed that alcohol
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is there to help us connect. We've all been programmed,
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alcohol will help you loosen up, connect, build trust, build rapport,
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find an easier way to connect with people. Complete, I'm
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not going to use bad words here, but just BS completely.
586
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So at the same time, where is the trend going?
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What are people doing instead of alcohol? So I'm like, perfect,
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this is exactly where my trend is. And I love
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that from the event space perspective, These large-scale events that's
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all about program, program, program, music, music, speaker, speaker.
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They're not doing very well in the last few years.
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They're really, really not. And the reason is they're starting
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to understand you can't have like a 10-hour event with
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like one lunch break and two coffee breaks that you
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rush people to connect with each other. People are not
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going to events for the content. That is maybe 50%
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of the reason. People are not coming to a musical
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concert just for the music. They're coming to connect with
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other people that are sharing the same values or interests.
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And unless the organizers take it as their responsibility to
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specifically think about it, strategize, create space for people to
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connect with each other, Bring in facilitators, bring in methodologists,
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bring in moderators to help people network. You can't just say,
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we'll give you lunch networking break. Because what people are
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starting to understand more and more is that humans, in general,
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are pretty bad at connecting. I'm speaking as a scientist
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who's been studying it for almost 20 years. The world
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of networking is very profound. It's very complex.
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And the word of events is all about creating a
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space and an experience for people to network. How we
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attract them, big speaker, big, great chef, great DJ, great musicians.
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That's how we attract them. But it's really bad if
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all we're doing is we basically like give them, give them,
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give them content and then sorry, you got to leave.
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You got to leave. You got to leave. Everyone leave. No, no, no.
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We need to give them space to connect with each other.
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Not hoping that, you know, they would be so good
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at networking that they will meet each other, realizing that
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they're not good at it. We need to think about it.
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And that's where community gets built. That's where event organizers
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are one by one coming to me right now and saying, Gil,
622
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can you help us create more loyalty within our audience
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to us?
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Can you help create more reciprocity?
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I'm like, they're starting to learn that what does it
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mean reciprocity within an event? It means that I came
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to your event. You helped me not just learn something
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or be entertained or experience, but you helped me connect
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with amazing people. I will always come back to your events.
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It doesn't matter who the speaker is. Because you thought
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about my needs. And when I went back home, I
632
00:34:12.420 --> 00:34:15.619
didn't go home remembering, oh, that was nice music.
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Oh, that was nice. I went home wow, I met.
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Amazing people that I'm going to see again and we're
635
00:34:22.010 --> 00:34:25.489
going to talk about the memory we just had. Because
636
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the number one epidemic we have right now in the
637
00:34:27.690 --> 00:34:31.429
world is not the wars and it's not the challenges
638
00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:35.460
in the economy, it's loneliness. That is the number one
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problem today in the world. All governments will say this
640
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is the number one problem we have today. They call
641
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.380
it mental health, but if you break down mental health
642
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into the top categories of where it falls under, loneliness
643
00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:55.889
is number one. And again, if we look at the
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top fears that human beings have, go on Google, GPT,
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00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:05.610
top fears that we have are exactly all connected to
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mental health. What are the fears that human beings have?
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Public speaking, or flip it over, speaking publicly, or fear
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of rejection.
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This is all networking.
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So if we're now starting to understand that actually what
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we yearn the most is deep connections with people, not
652
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necessarily the people that we already know.
653
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Maybe we've passed them. It's time to move on from
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these old friends. It's okay.
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And it's time to maybe find who is now relevant
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to us right now. Like right now in my life,
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at this point in my life, at this age, who
658
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is relevant? Who do I need around me? That would
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help me co-elevate. That would feel, you know, I would
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00:35:48.010 --> 00:35:52.659
feel they have my back. They're not maybe holding me back.
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Yeah, I like that. Co-elevate.
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Co-elevate was coined by Keith Barazzi about seven years ago.
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And I'm very, very good friends with him. So I'm
664
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using that a lot. But, you know, because he's such
665
00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:10.590
a good friend, he's like, Gil, use it as much
666
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as you can.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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00:36:14.230 --> 00:36:19.829
And what is, you have something called quantum networking. What
669
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does that, what does that mean exactly?
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So about five years ago, I was meeting here in
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Bali in the middle of COVID with some really incredible
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professors and scientists that ended up somehow either getting stuck
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here in COVID or somehow showing up here during COVID.
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And none of us were really busy.
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00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:44.320
So we just kept on meeting up and talking about,
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you know, spiritual journeys and very, very deep, deep conversations.
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Of course, using tea and understanding that some of them
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00:36:53.809 --> 00:36:56.469
loved where my journey is. And we brought it to
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00:36:56.489 --> 00:37:01.610
a position where, Gil, you're talking about networking on such
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00:37:01.690 --> 00:37:05.969
a deep, complex level. It could really be seen on
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a quantum level, like, that you could use networks to
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quantum leap. What does that mean? It means that if
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a human being is willing to understand, one, I have
684
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.289
not achieved anything alone in my life and I will
685
00:37:22.369 --> 00:37:24.449
never achieve anything alone in my life.
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Everything I have ever.
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Done and everything I will truly ever achieve in my
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life will only be somehow with other people, somehow. People
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will inspire me. People will guide me. People will mentor me.
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People will open doors. People will show me how. People
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will collaborate with me.
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Somehow.
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No one has done anything alone in their life. And
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people keep on trying to challenge me. Oh Gil, I
695
00:37:48.050 --> 00:37:50.139
zipped up my pants. Oh Gil, I made breakfast.
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Oh Gil.
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Like nothing. Nothing we've done. We figured it out on
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our own. It was all because we saw it.
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We read it.
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And that deep realization puts us in a position where like, okay, wow.
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Level one. Everything that I want to do in the
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rest of my.
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Life, I need to go through a path where I
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need to meet and build relationships with the right people. Now,
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if you're willing to be open-minded to the level of
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depth of networking, we'll understand that networking is not just
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chance of meeting people in the right space. Some people
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will say, Miguel, I trust God and the universe. They
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will always bring me the right people. I'm like, yeah,
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God brought you to an event with 100 people. God
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is not going to help introduce you to the exact
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five people you need right now at the event.
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That's up to you.
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God did his job. Hey, that person is sitting next
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to you at an event. If you don't have the
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courage and you don't have the training and the practice
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to say hello, to start a conversation that's meaningful and deep,
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to connect, to ask for their information, to stay connected,
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God's going to say, listen, you're just wasting my time.
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I keep on bringing you exactly who you want, but
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you're not even trying to connect. You're asking them, who
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are you and where are you from and what do
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00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:11.170
you do? You're not trying to understand if this is
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the person you really want to know. You're staying shallow.
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00:39:13.949 --> 00:39:17.469
So because people are so out of practice, they're not
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understanding that the world of connection and human networking is
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so deep on a quantum level, meaning the space where
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we're meeting.
729
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People makes a big difference. The noise, is it noisy
730
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or not?
731
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The lighting is it the right kind of if I
732
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.539
can control the lighting and the noise if I can
733
00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:37.780
control the food that is there I should because I'm
734
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:43.570
allowing that connection to happen more easily because connecting is
735
00:39:43.630 --> 00:39:46.840
not easy. If I can control people not having sticky
736
00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:48.900
food on their hands, so they're eating with their hands
737
00:39:48.940 --> 00:39:51.840
and then shaking hands, I'll control that. If I can
738
00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:55.480
control not having onion in my catering, I'll control that
739
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.719
so people don't have bad breath because sometimes if they
740
00:39:57.739 --> 00:40:01.300
have bad breath, people find it funny, but the networking
741
00:40:01.380 --> 00:40:06.590
opportunity dies out. If I can control the music being
742
00:40:07.219 --> 00:40:09.869
beautifully aligned, whether it's jazz or whatever it is, but
743
00:40:10.269 --> 00:40:13.110
it would be... good enough that I can enjoy it,
744
00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:15.650
but not loud enough where I cannot talk to people,
745
00:40:16.369 --> 00:40:19.469
I'm creating space for people to connect. If I want
746
00:40:19.489 --> 00:40:22.750
to create a dancing moment, create it down there and
747
00:40:22.769 --> 00:40:25.329
allow it down here for people to connect. So on
748
00:40:25.389 --> 00:40:29.380
a quantum level, there is so many levels of the
749
00:40:29.460 --> 00:40:33.800
state of the space, my state of mind, my state
750
00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:34.320
of body.
751
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.480
Did I sleep well last night? If someone just finished
752
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:38.780
eating a heavy.
753
00:40:39.989 --> 00:40:44.219
pasta and steak meal and they drank half a bottle
754
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.139
of wine, there is no way that they are working
755
00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:51.440
in an efficient way of networking. Scientifically proven, no way.
756
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.460
There's just, their blood is all here in their stomach.
757
00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:57.340
Their head is a little bit changed. They're not going
758
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.429
to connect on a quantum level. They're just going to
759
00:40:59.469 --> 00:41:02.570
connect on a very superficial level. And again, I don't
760
00:41:02.590 --> 00:41:05.989
want to generalize because some people are superhumans and they
761
00:41:06.010 --> 00:41:09.510
can drink two bottles of vodka and still connect beautifully.
762
00:41:10.130 --> 00:41:12.860
Good luck to them. I'm not trying to change everybody.
763
00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:15.940
I'm trying to tell people there are new codes of
764
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.010
networking and on a quantum level you can go deeper
765
00:41:20.050 --> 00:41:22.210
and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper
766
00:41:22.250 --> 00:41:25.590
into how they feel and how you feel and trying
767
00:41:25.610 --> 00:41:28.429
to sense out or trying to mirror them if someone
768
00:41:28.530 --> 00:41:32.070
feels comfortable with you because you can mirror them. How
769
00:41:32.130 --> 00:41:35.989
you dress to events, your perfume could make a massive difference.
770
00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:39.090
It can kill the entire networking experience or it can
771
00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:42.710
completely connect to you. So there is so much depth
772
00:41:43.710 --> 00:41:48.110
to networking. Anyone that wants more information could just write
773
00:41:48.130 --> 00:41:49.969
me on any social media. I have a lot of
774
00:41:50.030 --> 00:41:54.400
free content. I give everything online. I have today for free, everything.
775
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.860
There's books and eBooks and all of it is being
776
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.039
given for free. If someone wants my time, if they
777
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:02.739
want me as a coach, if they want me as
778
00:42:02.780 --> 00:42:05.670
a strategist for their business, If they want to cross
779
00:42:05.769 --> 00:42:08.480
pollinate and other businesses, they're like, Gil, I want to
780
00:42:08.500 --> 00:42:12.079
take this business and enter in another country. That's just
781
00:42:12.139 --> 00:42:15.539
a networking journey because you were mentioning before the world
782
00:42:15.579 --> 00:42:18.960
of marketing. I believe the world of marketing and funnels
783
00:42:19.500 --> 00:42:22.760
is completely gone. We are now, I believe, or in
784
00:42:22.780 --> 00:42:26.699
the world of tunnels. So we're all in a very
785
00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:29.940
similar tunnel together and we need to choose who do
786
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.449
we want to collaborate with and who do we want
787
00:42:32.489 --> 00:42:35.880
to have coming on our journey to So instead of marketing,
788
00:42:35.900 --> 00:42:42.809
I believe in precision networking, identifying key collaborators to have
789
00:42:43.070 --> 00:42:47.269
around us. And that's how business keeps on flourishing. So
790
00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:50.730
if people want a quantum leap, I tell them, just
791
00:42:50.789 --> 00:42:53.170
like you, when you wanted to learn how to cook,
792
00:42:53.329 --> 00:42:54.940
you didn't just do it on your own. You had
793
00:42:54.980 --> 00:42:57.679
a coach, you had a mentor, someone helping you. If
794
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.579
you want to learn how to be healthy and you
795
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.880
go to the gym, you find a fitness trainer to
796
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.039
work with you. If you want to learn how to
797
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:08.340
play the musical instrument for the first 2,000, 3,000 hours,
798
00:43:09.019 --> 00:43:10.320
you might sound really, really bad.
799
00:43:10.699 --> 00:43:12.730
But you practice until you perfect it.
800
00:43:13.409 --> 00:43:15.949
I want everyone to understand that in the world of networking,
801
00:43:17.170 --> 00:43:19.050
many of you, again, I'm not judging all of you.
802
00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:20.969
You might be great at what you do. In the
803
00:43:21.010 --> 00:43:23.449
world of networking, you might be a lot worse than
804
00:43:23.489 --> 00:43:25.840
you think you are. And because you might think you're
805
00:43:25.860 --> 00:43:28.719
a 7 or an 8, there isn't much room for improvement.
806
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.969
On my best days, I believe I'm a six, maybe
807
00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:35.239
a six and a half out of ten. And I've
808
00:43:35.300 --> 00:43:37.480
spoken about it to the best universities in the world.
809
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.179
I've been on covers of magazines as a networking guru. And,
810
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.320
you know, I've been on stages around the world as
811
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.920
a thought leader, but I still understand how much room
812
00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:53.070
for improvement I have. So I want everyone out there
813
00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:55.469
to understand that if they were looking for a quantum
814
00:43:55.510 --> 00:43:58.949
leap in their life, like massive shift, change a career,
815
00:43:59.369 --> 00:44:02.829
change a relationship, change a country, take my business and
816
00:44:02.969 --> 00:44:06.070
scale it to another level. The one thing that will
817
00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:09.510
help them is the relationship they have around them. And
818
00:44:10.090 --> 00:44:11.820
there's no need to try to get all that done
819
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.860
by yourself. You know, work with people. There's a lot
820
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.960
of amazing networking mentors out there in the world. I
821
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.320
can recommend people. Of course, it doesn't have to be me,
822
00:44:19.380 --> 00:44:21.599
but I'm always looking to work with amazing people.
823
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:28.230
I've been playing with a concept. It's like a quantum
824
00:44:28.269 --> 00:44:37.739
QR code that is, um, more and more synchronicity synchronicities. Um,
825
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.340
God will organize or orchestrate things. So you are sitting
826
00:44:41.380 --> 00:44:44.099
next to the person you're supposed to meet, or you
827
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:48.519
stumble across the person that has the offer that you're
828
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:49.820
looking for the missing piece.
829
00:44:50.659 --> 00:44:52.550
Um, And.
830
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I'm looking forward to when I, when I sort of
831
00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:00.400
look into the future, I see that, yeah, people will
832
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.400
just more easily find the right solutions or the right
833
00:45:04.579 --> 00:45:11.889
people that, you know, particularly I'm thinking about when people
834
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are creating something and they're like, they've, they've never done
835
00:45:15.170 --> 00:45:17.690
marketing or they haven't thought a lot about networking before,
836
00:45:18.230 --> 00:45:21.590
but maybe now we have this power of the quantum
837
00:45:21.610 --> 00:45:23.969
QR code, like it's connections are going to be easier.
838
00:45:23.989 --> 00:45:33.480
Do you have any thoughts about facilitating that ability? I
839
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:37.179
guess we've already talked about it. So maybe I'll just
840
00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:40.929
let you riff on like this, the energetic component of
841
00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:44.710
everybody finding the right people to help them elevate or
842
00:45:44.750 --> 00:45:48.369
the right offers outside of the.
843
00:45:50.090 --> 00:45:51.949
Of course, of course. So first of all, thank you
844
00:45:51.969 --> 00:45:54.030
for working on what you're doing. It's really important.
845
00:45:54.050 --> 00:45:57.670
We need more and more people to give attention to
846
00:45:59.050 --> 00:46:01.889
solving the biggest problem in the world, which is human connection.
847
00:46:03.130 --> 00:46:06.010
Like too many people in the audiences think there is
848
00:46:06.070 --> 00:46:10.219
seven out of 10 in networking. And the fact is
849
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.000
they might be a one and a half out of 10.
850
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.679
And I tell them, if you're in constant collaboration mode,
851
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:16.820
you're a two out of 10.
852
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:16.900
Sure.
853
00:46:18.230 --> 00:46:21.750
If you're really good at practicing working with partners and
854
00:46:21.769 --> 00:46:23.670
you have partners that are near you for many, many
855
00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:28.579
years and different businesses or different projects or even a marriage,
856
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.480
you have partnerships, you're a three.
857
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.019
Out of 10.
858
00:46:33.019 --> 00:46:35.699
If you're really good at sharing your network with others,
859
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.409
like you've met someone, you don't keep them. They're not
860
00:46:39.449 --> 00:46:42.409
in your database for yourself. They come through you to
861
00:46:42.469 --> 00:46:46.849
connect with others. You're constantly connecting people together, constantly sharing
862
00:46:46.889 --> 00:46:49.840
your network, then you're a four out of 10.
863
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:50.940
Most people don't do that.
864
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.139
And if you're not constantly connecting people, don't think that
865
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:54.980
you're above a four.
866
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:55.460
You're not.
867
00:46:56.059 --> 00:47:00.699
And what you're talking about in an energetic level, these
868
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:05.280
are really high, like, there is energetic level, a level
869
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.760
five and six and seven, like really, really high energy
870
00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:10.730
where you don't really have to leave the house much.
871
00:47:11.269 --> 00:47:15.420
You could be in a quantum state of, outlining and
872
00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:18.460
manifesting who do you really wish to meet and why
873
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.440
at any given point of your life. And without too
874
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.420
much effort, manifest those people into your life. It's not saying, oh,
875
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.739
I want to meet a billionaire. Where's the billionaire? They're
876
00:47:28.780 --> 00:47:29.119
not here.
877
00:47:29.139 --> 00:47:30.500
No, no, no. It doesn't work that way.
878
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:37.969
The network manifestation codes have blueprints of how to understand
879
00:47:38.070 --> 00:47:40.349
who it is that I wish to meet. And then
880
00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:43.789
what steps should I take to meet that person with
881
00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:49.539
ease and clarity. No need for it to be difficult
882
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.500
or expensive, but people are constantly saying, Gil, can you
883
00:47:53.539 --> 00:47:55.400
introduce me to Richard Branson? Can you introduce me to
884
00:47:55.420 --> 00:47:58.360
Elon Musk? Gil, I want to meet, like, why do
885
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.800
you want to meet that person? Like, what value are
886
00:48:00.820 --> 00:48:03.420
you ready to offer that person? And like, do you
887
00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:05.340
need to meet Elon Musk or do you need to
888
00:48:05.380 --> 00:48:08.460
meet someone from his team? Like, I didn't want to
889
00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:11.800
meet Tony Robbins right away when I started working with
890
00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:15.059
his company. I understood already that I shouldn't want to
891
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.380
meet him right away because I'm a no one right
892
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.139
now to him. Let me build it up. Let me
893
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.739
build relationship with his team. Let me build relationship with
894
00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:25.920
some of his family members that were hanging out at
895
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:28.159
the event. Let me build relation with some of his
896
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.199
best clients that have known him for years. So when
897
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.360
I met Tony the first time, he knew who is
898
00:48:34.429 --> 00:48:37.889
Gil Peterson. And I'm very, very proud to say that
899
00:48:38.349 --> 00:48:40.710
I don't know many promoters of Tony Robbins that were
900
00:48:40.750 --> 00:48:44.699
invited to his home. I've met him many, many times
901
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:48.079
at hotels. But I was invited to his home for
902
00:48:48.099 --> 00:48:50.969
a one-on-one meeting with him. I don't know many people
903
00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:54.949
that could say they went on vacation with Eckhart Tolle
904
00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:56.969
for three days in St.
905
00:48:57.030 --> 00:49:03.139
Petersburg. His family and my family. No paparazzi, no event. Vacation.
906
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:03.440
Why?
907
00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:07.659
Because we served him so deeply. So on a quantum level,
908
00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:10.179
I tell people that energetically, we all have energy.
909
00:49:10.619 --> 00:49:11.179
We all can.
910
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.340
You know, we can sometimes think of someone we want
911
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.139
to talk to and they send us a message.
912
00:49:16.929 --> 00:49:17.550
Energetically.
913
00:49:17.849 --> 00:49:20.590
We sometimes, you know, wish to meet someone in our
914
00:49:20.630 --> 00:49:22.800
life and somehow they walk in front of us and
915
00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:26.039
we talk to them and wow butterflies and business is
916
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.059
amazing and we have a relationship and I believe in
917
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:33.679
those I believe in synchronicities because they're constantly happening all
918
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:37.760
around us the question is for people can you have
919
00:49:37.820 --> 00:49:45.409
them happening systematically Can you actually use those codes every day?
920
00:49:45.849 --> 00:49:49.130
And it's not perfect. It's like playing a musical instrument.
921
00:49:49.230 --> 00:49:53.559
You will mess up some keys sometimes unless you practiced
922
00:49:53.619 --> 00:49:57.699
it perfectly for thousands and thousands of hours. Like a
923
00:49:57.820 --> 00:50:03.639
proper pianist will practice for thousands and thousands of hours
924
00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:07.889
at a level of perfectionism for it to sound even
925
00:50:07.949 --> 00:50:08.570
more perfect.
926
00:50:09.539 --> 00:50:13.489
I don't know many people that practice networking at a
927
00:50:13.550 --> 00:50:17.050
level of perfection for thousands of hours. So on an
928
00:50:17.170 --> 00:50:22.309
energetic level, what I tell people, practice understanding that networking
929
00:50:22.349 --> 00:50:27.519
is so beautiful. Practice introducing people. Practice complimenting people in
930
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.239
your head. Practice following up with people, which is such
931
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.679
a deep spiritual act of meeting someone amazing and connecting
932
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.760
with them, getting their business card, having building rapport with them,
933
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:42.570
but not following up.
934
00:50:42.739 --> 00:50:44.719
Or even worse, you followed up.
935
00:50:45.219 --> 00:50:47.679
And they said, sure, let's meet up, but I'm a
936
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.920
little bit busy this week.
937
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:50.059
Let's meet up next week.
938
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.639
And you took zero action to follow up with them
939
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.329
the following week because you're like, no, I'm more important
940
00:50:57.369 --> 00:51:00.130
than them. They should follow up with me. Or even worse,
941
00:51:00.190 --> 00:51:03.010
you sent them a message and they read it. You
942
00:51:03.050 --> 00:51:07.949
see the little check marks it psychologically messes up with
943
00:51:07.969 --> 00:51:10.670
them and then you send them another message and twice
944
00:51:10.710 --> 00:51:13.489
they don't respond to you and ego comes in no
945
00:51:14.849 --> 00:51:17.550
i sent them a message they haven't responded and then
946
00:51:17.889 --> 00:51:20.369
like our mind plays with it they don't like me
947
00:51:20.429 --> 00:51:24.039
they're not interested in me no maybe they're just busy
948
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.739
maybe they are preoccupied maybe their kids are having problems
949
00:51:26.780 --> 00:51:28.840
in school Maybe they lost something.
950
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.300
Maybe they just didn't have this moment. Why does our egos.
951
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.780
Play such a big level in like following up with
952
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.199
people and sending them your favorite emoji? So many people
953
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.139
tell me, oh Gil, it was such amazing reaching out
954
00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:44.079
to you and I followed up with you but you
955
00:51:44.099 --> 00:51:44.980
never wrote me again.
956
00:51:45.099 --> 00:51:48.090
I'm like, you followed up with me once. Good for you.
957
00:51:48.110 --> 00:51:51.510
Do you really want to connect with me? Follow up
958
00:51:51.530 --> 00:51:53.050
with me again. Like why?
959
00:51:53.550 --> 00:51:57.789
Who taught us Like following up with someone, like this
960
00:51:58.050 --> 00:52:01.829
act of I want to reconnect. Why does it need
961
00:52:01.869 --> 00:52:04.070
to be a game of like I sent you once,
962
00:52:04.170 --> 00:52:05.639
now you have to send it back to me?
963
00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:09.639
No. If you really want someone, you'll follow up with them, right?
964
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.800
Like if you really want to meet someone, like to
965
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.159
fall in love with someone, like you need to be
966
00:52:15.219 --> 00:52:18.440
a little bit persistent and perseverant and like you need
967
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.460
to show that you truly care and wish, not to
968
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.780
be annoying and selfish Don't be like, you know, a
969
00:52:23.900 --> 00:52:28.719
creep with people, but like follow up and like compliment
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them in a way and tell them that you care.
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You don't have to stalk them on social media, but
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show them that you care. Like when I knew I
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00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:38.599
was going to meet Richard Branson the first time, I
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00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.199
spent a couple of hours the night before researching what
975
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:46.219
was relevant to Richard Branson that week. What was relevant
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to him, not what he's achieved. And when I met
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him and there was another 20 or so people in
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00:52:51.510 --> 00:52:54.190
the room and I saw that everyone was asking him,
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00:52:54.650 --> 00:52:59.269
completely random questions that he's answered a thousand times and
980
00:52:59.289 --> 00:53:02.639
you can read them all online. I was the only
981
00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.519
one that found this moment and asked him a question
982
00:53:06.019 --> 00:53:10.110
from a place of relevancy to him, offering us, not
983
00:53:10.429 --> 00:53:13.119
just offering him my help, but saying, Maybe someone in
984
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.579
this room can help you. And suddenly all these rich
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00:53:16.659 --> 00:53:19.510
people and influencers are looking at me. How did you
986
00:53:19.570 --> 00:53:22.489
just ask Richard such a powerful question? Because I was
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00:53:22.530 --> 00:53:25.269
looking to build rapport with him, not looking to just
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00:53:25.369 --> 00:53:29.409
take from him. And the same position of understanding that
989
00:53:29.909 --> 00:53:32.789
doing research, for example, this week I'm doing a lot
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00:53:32.829 --> 00:53:33.530
of interviews.
991
00:53:33.869 --> 00:53:35.340
I'm hiring a couple of people.
992
00:53:35.949 --> 00:53:39.440
And it shocks me when I tell people how many
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00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.989
of you have spent at least an hour... like researching me,
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like Googling me, checking me out on, like, you want
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00:53:45.570 --> 00:53:48.769
to work with me. And I ask them, be honest,
996
00:53:48.849 --> 00:53:51.969
raise your hand. And I love people's honesty. So I don't,
997
00:53:52.730 --> 00:53:54.750
I don't like not hire them because they didn't do
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00:53:54.769 --> 00:53:58.500
the research. I'm like, I'm showing them how ignorant we
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00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.760
are as human beings. We show up on a date.
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We show up to an investor's meeting. We show up
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to a client meeting. We show up to an interview.
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00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:09.059
And we don't spend time to try to connect, try
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to network with that person on an intellectual, on a
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00:54:13.420 --> 00:54:18.670
spiritual level before we actually start talking. And to me,
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00:54:18.690 --> 00:54:21.289
that is on a quantum level, how's more successful we
1006
00:54:21.329 --> 00:54:23.969
could be where like today I had a couple of
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00:54:24.050 --> 00:54:27.030
calls with some of these people that are, they passed
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00:54:27.070 --> 00:54:30.039
through our interview process. And I was asking them very,
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00:54:30.099 --> 00:54:33.230
very openly, like, Did you go deep as to who
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00:54:33.329 --> 00:54:36.179
I am? Like really go deep? And one of them said, yeah.
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00:54:36.219 --> 00:54:37.659
And she told me how. And the other one said,
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00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:40.119
I honestly didn't have time to do that.
1013
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.739
And I'm like, OK. So like I did.
1014
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:46.099
I spent 20 minutes before my interview with you because
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00:54:46.139 --> 00:54:48.639
I'd like to give you a job checking out who
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00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:49.099
you are.
1017
00:54:49.550 --> 00:54:50.849
Not just reading your resume.
1018
00:54:51.190 --> 00:54:53.949
Check, like, not looking to see what's wrong with you,
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00:54:54.489 --> 00:54:56.349
looking to see what's amazing about you.
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And I did the same thing with you today, Derek.
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00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:01.110
You know, I quickly check out your social medias and
1022
00:55:01.449 --> 00:55:03.849
to see what's going on with him, what's relevant with him.
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00:55:04.309 --> 00:55:07.010
How can I be most useful for this person? Because
1024
00:55:07.530 --> 00:55:10.309
I know we're going to spend time together. And that,
1025
00:55:10.349 --> 00:55:13.409
to me, on a spiritual level, to anyone out there
1026
00:55:13.429 --> 00:55:17.570
that's listening, it shows that you care, not just to
1027
00:55:17.590 --> 00:55:20.030
the person you're going to meet with, but it shows
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00:55:20.110 --> 00:55:24.280
the universe. It shows God that you really want to
1029
00:55:24.340 --> 00:55:28.000
connect with that person. And I think on an energetic level,
1030
00:55:29.099 --> 00:55:32.760
it really allows people to connect deeper before they actually
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00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:34.599
came into proximity together.
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00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.079
Gosh, that's so interesting that you, I'm just recalling an
1033
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.909
experience where I had that exact thing where I was like,
1034
00:55:41.949 --> 00:55:43.750
I want to meet this person. I researched him a
1035
00:55:43.789 --> 00:55:46.409
little bit and we connected and I followed up a
1036
00:55:46.429 --> 00:55:48.570
couple of times. And then like, It didn't work out
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00:55:48.630 --> 00:55:52.570
for months. And now when we finally first came to this,
1038
00:55:53.130 --> 00:55:56.070
to the same place at the same time, same event,
1039
00:55:57.670 --> 00:56:01.260
we hit it off and we're, we're in contact regularly,
1040
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:05.019
but it was that preparation. I think piece of it
1041
00:56:05.059 --> 00:56:07.000
where I like already felt like I knew him to
1042
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.420
some degree. And I felt the connection existed, even though
1043
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.340
we hadn't been yet in communication.
1044
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.460
Wow. That's awesome. That happens to me a lot in
1045
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:16.940
my life.
1046
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.519
I have dozens and dozens of stories with some of
1047
00:56:19.539 --> 00:56:23.360
the most important people in my life where I met them,
1048
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:27.050
I followed up with them, and they didn't respond. And
1049
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.070
most people would give up. But I'm like, hey, I'm
1050
00:56:30.110 --> 00:56:34.650
Gil Peterson. Following up is natural. Following up is not
1051
00:56:34.690 --> 00:56:37.869
a negative thing. It's very beautiful. It's very natural. And
1052
00:56:38.329 --> 00:56:40.909
we have plenty of time in our lives to follow up.
1053
00:56:40.969 --> 00:56:43.869
We're just not really good at managing time or Most
1054
00:56:43.909 --> 00:56:47.110
people are not aware of time. And if you're not
1055
00:56:47.170 --> 00:56:52.070
aware of time, then networking is overwhelming for you. Because realistically,
1056
00:56:52.449 --> 00:56:54.929
we don't have so much time every single day to
1057
00:56:54.969 --> 00:56:57.530
do everything we want and to follow up with everyone
1058
00:56:57.570 --> 00:57:00.889
we want. So we need to be very much aware
1059
00:57:00.929 --> 00:57:06.099
of time and to create space and time to connect
1060
00:57:06.260 --> 00:57:11.559
with our existing relationships, to maybe reconnect with some old relationships,
1061
00:57:12.019 --> 00:57:16.219
opening up our WhatsApp and scrolling back three to six months. Wow,
1062
00:57:16.820 --> 00:57:20.880
what a journey. Scroll back six months, meaning these are
1063
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.320
people that you've not communicated with in six months. But
1064
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:27.650
why did you communicate with them six months ago? And
1065
00:57:27.710 --> 00:57:30.949
then maybe every week is a challenge for everyone's listening.
1066
00:57:31.050 --> 00:57:33.929
Every week, pick five people or 10 people or even
1067
00:57:33.969 --> 00:57:38.630
more and re-engage them, reconnect for whatever reasons you want
1068
00:57:39.869 --> 00:57:43.119
I believe ideal way of connecting is the one-minute voice
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00:57:43.179 --> 00:57:47.280
message that's very friendly, asking about them, talking about yourself
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00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.579
a little bit. The worst way to reconnect, hi, Gil,
1071
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.619
how are you? Please don't do that, ladies and gentlemen.
1072
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:56.099
That is the worst way of reconnecting. So there's the
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00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.269
keeping connection within the network. There's the reconnecting with old network.
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00:58:00.869 --> 00:58:04.469
And then there is exploring the outside network, creating space
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00:58:04.530 --> 00:58:07.989
and time to connect with people you don't know them,
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00:58:09.230 --> 00:58:11.809
But you feel that they exist. So you got to
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00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:13.570
look out for them. You got to find them. And
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00:58:13.590 --> 00:58:17.989
sometimes it takes time. It takes, you know, someone came
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00:58:18.030 --> 00:58:20.219
to me and said, Gil, how many billionaires do you know?
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00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:22.199
And I know quite a lot of them. And I
1081
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:25.860
tell them, I've never asked any of my billionaire friends
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00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:26.280
for money.
1083
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:28.219
And they're like, why not?
1084
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:32.210
I'm like, because I still haven't needed that much to
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00:58:32.349 --> 00:58:35.630
ask them. So I'm just building a relationship and building
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00:58:35.650 --> 00:58:36.969
a relationship.
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00:58:36.389 --> 00:58:38.010
And staying in touch and staying in touch.
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00:58:38.469 --> 00:58:42.460
And when I need a large amount of money, that's
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00:58:42.500 --> 00:58:45.159
when you go to a billionaire. Not to ask them necessarily,
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00:58:45.219 --> 00:58:47.840
but usually a billionaire knows other billionaires. And if they
1091
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.300
like you enough, they'll introduce you to their billionaire friends.
1092
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:58.989
Yeah. Gil, you're inspiring me to keep improving my own
1093
00:58:59.869 --> 00:59:05.940
connection and networking. It's definitely something that even just a
1094
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:09.420
little bit of skill goes a long way. You know, I,
1095
00:59:11.050 --> 00:59:14.230
host a couple events here in person in St. Louis
1096
00:59:14.250 --> 00:59:18.260
where we are and it's just a little bit makes
1097
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:24.179
it seem like wow you're good at this but yeah
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00:59:24.219 --> 00:59:25.880
I love that idea of the voice notes and the
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00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.960
following up because I think you did that You did
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that for me at some point. I was like, oh,
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00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.139
how nice. Nice little personal.
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00:59:34.380 --> 00:59:36.559
It takes one minute. And in one minute, we could
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00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:40.059
say more than 100 words. I think not everybody is
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into voice messages, which is why I tell people if
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00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:46.969
they don't answer within two, three days, send them an
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00:59:47.010 --> 00:59:50.329
emoji and say something like, I hope you don't mind
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00:59:50.369 --> 00:59:52.769
this short little voice message. Really wanted to follow up
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00:59:52.809 --> 00:59:54.989
with you and wanted to say it by voice and
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00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:58.869
not just text. That's, you know, it's personalizing it a
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little bit.
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Yeah.
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Um, anything we haven't covered yet that, uh, you wanted
1113
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.400
to make sure that we touched on?
1114
01:00:08.460 --> 01:00:11.449
Um, not necessarily, you know, it's like, I, I love
1115
01:00:11.489 --> 01:00:13.929
talking to beautiful people and you're definitely a beautiful person
1116
01:00:13.969 --> 01:00:17.250
that's curious. And I enjoy such conversations very, very much,
1117
01:00:17.710 --> 01:00:20.389
you know, out there in the world, whoever is listening, um,
1118
01:00:20.929 --> 01:00:23.329
explore how you connect to people. And if you could
1119
01:00:23.349 --> 01:00:25.639
do it over a cup of tea, please do. And
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01:00:25.659 --> 01:00:28.900
I'm not talking about twinings in a teacup or Starbucks.
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01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:29.320
No, no, no.
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01:00:29.860 --> 01:00:32.719
I'm talking about proper high vibe teas or some flower
1123
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:35.679
infusions or a way for you to just slow down
1124
01:00:35.739 --> 01:00:37.960
and connect. If we can help you in that, we
1125
01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:41.809
have Chati, Chati Club and Chati Ventures. We're here to
1126
01:00:41.869 --> 01:00:44.630
serve the world. My vision is right now to help
1127
01:00:44.690 --> 01:00:50.090
empower and educate one million more people by 2030. I'd
1128
01:00:50.139 --> 01:00:53.119
like one million more people to know how to serve
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01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:57.739
tea professionally so they could be a tea angel or
1130
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.320
a tea barista or a tea sommelier or a tea master,
1131
01:01:01.659 --> 01:01:04.039
where they don't just serve tea to one friend, but
1132
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:06.059
they serve it in a way that people are like, wow,
1133
01:01:06.099 --> 01:01:09.679
you're really holding space and time for us to connect.
1134
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:12.920
And I think it's a very beautiful trait for people
1135
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:16.340
to learn. I'd like us to be the biggest educators
1136
01:01:16.380 --> 01:01:19.289
in the world for this. So We've partnered up recently
1137
01:01:19.309 --> 01:01:22.130
with Human Garage, which is amazing. We partnered up with
1138
01:01:22.150 --> 01:01:25.590
the World Tea Academy. I'm now working inside Human Garage
1139
01:01:25.650 --> 01:01:29.869
overlooking the entire Global Coaches community. If you guys haven't
1140
01:01:29.889 --> 01:01:33.210
heard about them, check out Fasha Maneuvers. Human Garage is
1141
01:01:33.250 --> 01:01:36.230
the biggest educator in the world for Fasha Maneuvers. And
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01:01:36.269 --> 01:01:37.889
if anybody in the world wants to connect with me,
1143
01:01:37.929 --> 01:01:41.079
I'm the only Gil Peterson on Google. So follow up
1144
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:45.400
with me anywhere, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn. And if you want
1145
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:48.480
me to hear you out, I challenge you to send
1146
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:51.210
me a one minute voice message and tell me who
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01:01:51.250 --> 01:01:54.070
you want to meet in the world and why. And
1148
01:01:54.210 --> 01:01:56.309
I guarantee that it will be me that will answer
1149
01:01:56.349 --> 01:01:59.030
it at one point, not within an hour. My team
1150
01:01:59.050 --> 01:02:02.010
will respond faster, but my team always gets it to
1151
01:02:02.050 --> 01:02:05.130
me because I've created so much space and time in
1152
01:02:05.170 --> 01:02:08.679
my life. And because I've completely hacked how I'm networking,
1153
01:02:09.179 --> 01:02:12.480
I always have time to meet new people.
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01:02:12.739 --> 01:02:14.639
So I look forward to hearing from all of you
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01:02:14.739 --> 01:02:15.219
one day soon.
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01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:16.800
Amazing.
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01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:19.719
Well, Kiel, thank you so much. Great to spend time
1158
01:02:19.739 --> 01:02:20.119
with you again.
1159
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:23.699
Thank you. Thank you for today. Thank you. Looking forward
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01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:26.179
to serving you tea one day soon. I would love that.
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Welcome to the Derek Loudermilk Show. At the edge of possibility,
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we fuse science, spirit, and adventure alongside healers, scientists, pioneers,
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and mystics to turn potential into practice, create real results.
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Subscribe and join me on the adventure. Gil Petersil, welcome
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back to the podcast.
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Good to see you.
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Happy to be back all the way from Bali once again.
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Yes, love it. And actually, it occurred to me, I
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think your team mentioned something about you guys had done
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something at Bali Spirit Fest recently, and I was curious
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about that, what you guys did.
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Yeah, of course.
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So every year I take new challenges to find people
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What I would describe as some of the greatest events
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in the world for the conscience community, people in personal development,
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people in impact. And every year I try to identify
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ones that are ideally near where I am or potentially
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very much accessible so that we can have a true
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impact within the event itself for the audience that's coming in.
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And one of the events that I've been a big
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fan of is happening right here around the corner from
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where I live, Bali Spirit Festival. Last year was the
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first time that I, they asked me to become a
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speaker and that was really beautiful. You know, it's again,
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it's not everyone's cup of tea is an event, but
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it is quite an incredible event that attracts these conscience
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beings from around the world that want to come in
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and someone to celebrate, someone to look at the biohacking
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and longevity and like, how do we get healthy? And
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whether it's fascia maneuvers or whether it's yoga and meditation,
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it all comes together in five days. And, This year,
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we took over a massive place within the festival itself.
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We call it the co-creator zone. And within the zone itself,
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we created basically a partnership within everything else that I
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do in my life within the event itself. And the
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main purpose of the space itself is really to connect people.
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And the organizers realized that they never had any space
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like that. They had dancing spaces, they had eating spaces,
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They had workshop places, but it was all about people
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engaged by something else outside, not to engage with each other.
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So our space was dedicated to just help people connect.
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We created this kind of a networking wall that actually
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was called the Bali Spirit Web.
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It looked like a spider web in the beginning.
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By the end of the event, it looked like an
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art installation with hundreds and hundreds of little cards that
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you can kind of see both sides, what people wish for,
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that we integrated. My biggest passion these days is tea,
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whether it's a tea ceremony or tea salon. Connecting people
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over a cup of tea I've understood is a lifelong
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hack that we all need to learn.
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many tea masters and tea angels serving people tea as
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they were walking in. And because of my involvement with
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Human Garage, we had a lot of fascia maneuver coaches
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creating all these ongoing sessions that would get people to
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not just interact with their own bodies, which is really
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beautiful to see, but touch each other in a way
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five days, number one space at the event. from all
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the feedbacks, organizers. We had Minister of Tourism come in
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to see us and like, what is this? We have
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never seen anything like that. And actually in the next
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couple of days, we've been invited by the minister to
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the number one wellness and beauty event in Indonesia. Very,
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very high end. 3,000 to 4,000 people are expected. Three-day event.
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event happening in one of the top hotels here in Bali.
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of my ikigai, my dharma, my mission in life for years.
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connecting people.
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you're in. into and you just figured out how to
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of diverse interests and they're trying to figure out how
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to like weave them all together, sometimes into an offering.
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So what a beautiful question, you know, so in general,
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that people have behind networking is really false we believe
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that networking is something we need in order to you
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know we need people or we use people in order
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to get what we want it's like so misaligned and
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misunderstood and like mislearned but for me networking are a
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set of spiritual practices, and the greatest way to experience
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that connection with other human beings is through an experience.
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whether it was some sort of a cooking class or
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a dancing class, experience together. And then we got into
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personal development with Tony Robbins and Eckhart Tolle.
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that opens up your heart and you connect people. Over
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life because I got to this stage in my life
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where I'm like, hold on, you've been doing so much.
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message across. And I took some time off. I went
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into a very deep meditative space. I went into a
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dark retreat for five days, which is life-changing on all fronts.
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that one of my hobbies is which is bringing people
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together around the tea table, is more than just a hobby.
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couple of years as a ecosystem, kind of a group
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of companies that is all about social infusions, infusing tea
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hospitality into events. And when you combine that passion And
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the understanding that in the world of networking, sometimes we
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need to get people's eyes off their phones. So people
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phones and go old school, go billboard. You know, billboard
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where people would put like, this is what I'm offering,
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this is what I need.
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Pick a number.
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that put their card 30 minutes before you on that wall,
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and that card really resonates with you and you want
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to connect with them. And we've tried such walls over
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every time it's very creative, it's very innovative, it's very
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the world, gives me access to all these amazing coaches,
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fascia maneuver coaches. So when I understood that they're giving
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me the space, which is basically two weeks before a
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massive festival of 3,000 people, they said, Gil, you got it.
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space because I didn't want to have to pay to
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serve people. I'm like, guys, I'm not a vendor that's
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going to be selling something. I want to do a collaboration.
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selling coaching. I'm not selling networking. I'm just giving it
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to the audience. And most organizers don't get it. So
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it takes a little bit of, you know, pushing a
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little bit back and forth of negotiation to help people
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understand networking is, It is useful. It is more useful
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than dancing. It is more useful than a workshop because
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you can take networking home with you. You can meet soulmates.
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the world don't get it. These guys got it. They
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felt it. They're like, yes, Gil, let's do it. And
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within days, everything came together. A friend of mine said, Gil,
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what do you need? He gave me like 10 massive
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carpets so we can have a carpeted area that kind
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of looks more comfy. Another friend gave me like 100
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pillows so we can create these zones where people could
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just lounge. It's a place where you come to connect.
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to connect with others. Another friend came and said, hey, listen, Gil,
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I got all these tea lights. Let's just put it together.
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businesses that came and gave their time, one purpose, to
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serve others so they can connect.
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volunteer and all these things, how much are you delegating
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the running of the event versus actually making sure that
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everything is where it needs to be and your specific role?
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there's this balance between the logistics and making sure people
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get where they need to go but sometimes it's nicer
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to have somebody who's doing that part. And you can
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sort of like have this big picture vision. How much
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are you like in it and how much are you
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sort of masterminding?
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we learned to, sometimes you got to work in the business,
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but very often you got to work on the business.
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the leadership. Now, Because I come from an events background
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with Tony Robbins to hundreds of retreats and hundreds of masterminds,
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these days I don't have to organize the event myself anymore.
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the world. Because I've known a Bali Spirit Festival's organizers
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for many, many years and they know me, there was
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an ability to come in and say, well, this space,
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you're usually renting it for $ 30, 000. I want it for free.
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short timeline, small budget, like I got to deliver, you know?
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do this before for you. You're clearly taking a massive
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risk in me.
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I'm going to over deliver anything they can ever be
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hold ground, to hold space. And because we have some
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amazing people that we know in the community and volunteers,
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there is a level of trust that I'm able to
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give for them to create this and innovate on this.
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I've done it so many times, maybe they haven't. I
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can give them a small brief, a tease, but let
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them go ahead on their own. I think it's how
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we can empower a network at any given time. Don't
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give them all the answers. Give them a tease. Shine
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some light in the right direction. Because of my level
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of energy, I'm an Aries. I'm a generator in human design.
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volunteer for us because maybe they came in wanting to
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do something they wanted to do instead of doing something
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that we wanted to do together as a community to
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serve the greater good.
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I'll volunteer. They come and get a free ticket and
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you never see them again. And there's some people that
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really show up and even though they just committed for
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approach where like, I feel like I'm not just giving
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of like, I just connected two people together and wow,
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someone is coming and connecting me.
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I'm giving love, if you're sensitive enough, you'll feel love
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right away coming back to you. And like I've volunteered
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is to just give back and to have the how
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quantum networking mechanics. The how can I help you mindset
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mind the how can I help you mindset and the
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complementary mindset really helps connect in our mind, in our soul.
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the how can I help you mindset when you're actually
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my life. And in my early twenties, when I moved
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to London and England, and I was brand new in England,
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I volunteered for charity events very selfishly. I understood from
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one of my mentors, you want to meet nice girls,
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go volunteer at a charity event. And usually the girls
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who are volunteering, they're very nice girls. And I was like, okay, that's, But.
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That's a really smart networking hack.
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When we volunteered an Eckhart Tolle event, we conceived a baby.
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Literally.
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I went and I volunteered with my partner at the time.
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We volunteered at an Eckhart Tolle event. Recently married, trying
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to make babies. Too much stress in life. We let
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go of our phone. We let go of our kind
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of other identities. We just came to serve. We just
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came to make a difference. Seven day retreat. Came out
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of it pregnant. Like, So I believe that when we
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volunteer and we give our time, there's this beautiful balance
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of how much we can really get back. And I'm
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always telling people, hey, we're doing these events all over
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the world.
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You know, these are chati.
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My movement is called chati. Cha means tea for billions
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of people in the world in Asia. And tea is tea.
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But chati is about being chati. And we want people
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to be more chati over a cup of tea. So
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we tell people, come and chati with us and See
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if you can help people chat with each other.
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I mean, it's a great.
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You already have the people there for the events. It's
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a perfect situation to enhance their ability to connect. I'm
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wondering about if you have... By the way, I'm an
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Aries generator as well. I'm wondering if you picked anything
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up from Tony Robbins to have the type of energy
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to go for 15 hours. Because I know he has...
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done some pretty amazing like long event days himself.
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Yeah.
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Is there anything sort of energetically or physically wise that
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helps you prepare to, to be on for so long?
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Yeah, a hundred percent.
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So, you know, I've been into Tony since the age
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of 18 and I was kind of in and out
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of his education.
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I met him when I was 33.
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We went to his first event and I didn't meet
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him personally, but I just kind of, I was there.
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Personally at the event. I ended up meeting him at
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the next year.
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So this was 2013 was the first time I brought
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a small group to a Tony Robbins event. And I
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brought a small group because I couldn't afford to go.
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And I found a hack.
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Do you become a promoter and bring 25 people? You
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can come in for free. That was my hack.
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And then in 2014, instead of 25 people, we brought
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200 people.
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And we ended up meeting up with Tony.
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And one of the questions and one of the comments
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I made to him is like, I have no idea
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how you do it. We've been here for the last
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four days with you and you're on stage every day, 12, 15,
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17 hours.
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How, how, how?
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And his answer was very, very beautiful. He's a very
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humble person, but of course he's got a lot of
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these hacks. He's got the supplements. He's got the nutritionist.
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He knows how to eat and drink and he knows
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that he has a small trampoline in the backstage jumping
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up and down for a couple of minutes.
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Epic way to wake everything up.
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But his comment to me was very beautiful and because
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we were chatting for a few minutes right before, he
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understood who I was and what I was doing for him.
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And he said, well, you already know the answer. It's
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the network that's in front of me. Like, they're giving
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me the energy. I'm serving them. I'm here to bring
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them value and I'm We're exchanging the energy. And the
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more energy I'm able to see and receive from them,
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the more energy I have to give back and raise
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my hand and clap my hands and be up there
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serving at that level. And that stuck with me for
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years because... I'm definitely not someone that was born with
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this I'm an introvert by nature I've had I've been
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an immigrant since the age of 10 with English being
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my third language so I used to be this shy
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boy that would never get on stage or never hold
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a microphone you know until really my 30s holding a
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microphone was not really my thing I would sometimes speak
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in front of my team, but that also made me
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very nervous and sweaty. And the energy part of things,
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I think a lot of us understand that energy comes
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from good sleep. If you're gonna get on stage, make
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sure you sleep well. Healthy quality of water, infused water
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is better than regular water, hydrogen water, make sure the
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nutrition is really, really key.
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Number three is nutrition.
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It's a very long conversation, but I don't believe in
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heavy meals before getting on stage. If I'm on stage,
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for example, at a Bali Spirit Festival of 15 hours,
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I'll eat a strong breakfast, nothing heavy, a strong, beautiful breakfast,
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and that's it. I will not eat anything the whole day,
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maybe a.
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Couple of fruits.
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I'll have enough energy from the event to last me,
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no problem. Like, you know, food I find kind of
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sometimes slows me down. If I feel that I need it,
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I'll go and have it. But realistically, we've been programmed
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that we need three meals a day, which is complete BS.
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So it's those three things. And then the biggest one
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is the networking. It's ensuring that when we're connecting with people,
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we don't give one person too much of our energy
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in an event.
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There's no need.
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Some people without knowing they're actually suckers. They suck energy.
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They don't even know it. It's not their fault. I'm not,
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I'm not judging them. They just don't know it, that
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they're just sucking my energy right now. And you know,
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anyone could learn to develop this sensitive ability to feel
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that out. And, um, I sometimes don't shake everyone's hands.
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I don't want to hug everybody. A lot of people,
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you want to hug, hug, hug, hug. No, no, no.
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I'll bow down. I've learned, hey, nice meeting you. Good
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meeting you. Good luck, you know.
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Sometimes if I feel that someone doesn't have the right
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energy in front of me or if like it's like
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they just want my energy right now, which is okay.
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It's fair. Some people love my energy and I want
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to give it and I want to serve. But sometimes
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I'll find that like, hey, how about we connect another
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time maybe online and Ask me these questions. I'm very
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happy to follow up with you with a voice message.
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For now, why don't you come and check out the
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tea that we have here and I'll pass them off
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to someone else.
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I'll hand them over. I'll help them move.
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You know, crowd control is very, very important when it
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comes to event management. You don't want people to be stuck.
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You don't want traffic. And the worst thing is you
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don't want traffic on you. Like just, you know, it's
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just traffic waiting to talk to you. You want people
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to be able to move, to flow. The energy is moving.
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It's much better.
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That reminds me of, uh, I used to do a
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lot of comedy improv and there's some practice exercises you
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do where you have to leave and then come back
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on this in the scene. And you constantly have to
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justify like, Oh, I have to go, I have to
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go get something that we're, that we're using. And, um, it's,
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it's almost the same thing where you're like, if you
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want to keep things moving, you have to have like
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a justification in order to, to move things along.
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Um, I've learned how to do that.
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The power of disconnection is a very important skill that
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people need to learn. Disconnection comes in very, very many levels,
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like physically and philosophically and psychologically and emotionally, because for
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years I've been teaching people about connection, how to connect,
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how to approach someone, how to start a conversation, how
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to find someone online, how to engage, how to manage
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a conversation.
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I've never spent too much time on disconnection. Just a
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little bit.
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I've taught people how to end the conversation and move
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away respectfully, for example. Saying, hey, it sounds like we
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have a lot in common. Why don't we continue this
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conversation during the week over a cup of tea? Can
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we exchange information? Let me follow up with you. Maybe
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Tuesday or Thursday would work out for you. There's no
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need to meet someone at an event and talk to
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them for 30 minutes. I don't care if they're your
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best potential partner. If they're your soulmate... and you came
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that evening looking for a soulmate, sure, stick with them.
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If that was your priorities of the night, to meet
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the love of your life, your soulmate, and you met them, sure,
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don't disconnect. But if you met someone that you have
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some good rapport with them, they might really be good
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at what they're doing. You might be really good. Maybe
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astrologically you're very compatible, so you like each other. There's
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no need to close the deal tonight. I don't believe
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in one night stands personally or business-wise.
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So.
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connect and disconnect so you can reconnect again. And it's
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the same thing if the conversation is not going anywhere
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after three to five minutes and you just don't like it,
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like you feel like they're complaining about traffic, about politics. Say, hey,
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by the way, I'm curious, what were your priorities in
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coming here this evening? Or like, who are you hoping
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to meet this evening? Because just to let you know,
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I'm currently very much looking to meet some people in
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the marketing space that can help me.
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Maybe you know someone at this event.
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And you then give them a minute to tell you
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who they want so they understand that it's not you.
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And then you tell them, well, if I meet someone
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like that tonight, I'd love to introduce them to you.
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It was really nice meeting you, Jacob.
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I'll see you soon.
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And you find a way to disconnect, but you're also
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leaving them with an opportunity to reconnect.
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Or you just say, hey, listen, it sounds like.
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You've had an amazing journey until this point in your business.
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Congratulations on everything you've done.
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I'm going to go and grab a glass of water
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and see if I can meet some new people to
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connect with.
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Maybe we'll stay in touch and we'll see you soon.
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And that's it.
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People should feel comfortable to disconnect, but they need practice.
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In disconnection, you can disconnect during an event. You can
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also disconnect from a job, disconnect from a country. You
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can disconnect from a relationship. Disconnection is quite profound as
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a topic to bring up generally, not just in events,
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but in life.
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Yeah, that's very elegant how you presented that. It's like
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we're going to disconnect, but there's this opportunity and it
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still feels like you're being of service.
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Yeah. Yeah, I love that.
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It sounds like you mentioned the managing the physical and
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the sleep and the food and stuff like that, but
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there's a large non-physical, a large energetic component in how
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you're reading people and how you're managing your own state
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throughout a long event like that. And I'm really interested
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in the energetics of business and the energetics of people
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and I'm curious, since we talked last three years ago,
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I've been thinking a lot more about how business, an
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organization will have its own sort of collective consciousness to it.
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And things like marketing are perhaps energetically operating a little
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differently as consciousness progresses and evolves. What have you seen
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that's maybe different no longer working the same way that
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it did in the spaces that you're familiar with and
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what's working really well right now?
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Yeah. Wow. What a beautiful question.
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So, you know, since we spoke in our last podcast together,
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my life has completely changed.
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All right.
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All business, personal, completely. On a personal level, speaking of disconnection,
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my partner and I, married for 13 years, three kids,
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businesses together, had a 12-hour conversation and decided that we're
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going to uncouple. And it's been a very beautiful two-year
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journey to go so deep into this myself and love
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this journey that why are all these people so afraid
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of it? Why are they getting divorces and separated and
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breaking up Why does it need to be negative? Like
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13 years is a massive accomplishment these days.
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Massive.
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Happily uncoupling. Still having love for each other. Managing to
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find time to cuddle with each other and the kids
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together because the love is there. But choosing to not
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be husband and wife. Massive personal experience that I'm still
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going through.
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It's a journey.
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And the beauty thing is that it's taken me on
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a deep journey of studying this part of disconnection of networking.
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So I've had to now also learn how do we
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disconnect from companies? How do we disconnect from networks? How
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do we leave networks behind to make space for another network?
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What does it mean to leave clients behind? Clients are
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paying you thousands of dollars every month.
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What does it mean to let them go?
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Like, wow, profound, deep, deep journey where again, two and
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00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:04.339
a half years ago, I let go of most of
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00:29:04.420 --> 00:29:08.500
my clients and I started a movement called Chati. It
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00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:12.109
started initially with like this vision that had 18 different
549
00:29:12.170 --> 00:29:14.789
revenue models. And then I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
550
00:29:14.809 --> 00:29:17.890
that's too much Gil, don't do that. So I was like, okay,
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stick with seven. And I literally set up seven companies
552
00:29:21.210 --> 00:29:23.910
all at the same time to test them out and
553
00:29:24.230 --> 00:29:28.200
to try to understand where is this world of events
554
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:29.460
and connection going?
555
00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:30.789
Like, where, Gil?
556
00:29:30.809 --> 00:29:34.529
This is clearly, you know, your destiny. This is your ikigai.
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This is your dharma. This is your mission in life.
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This is a part of the destiny of of what
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you're meant to leave behind. How are you, you know,
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00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.420
where is that quantum leap where you're not just getting
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better and better every time. It's when you need 3,000
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events to figure it out. You've done 2,000 already.
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Stop, you know.
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And that's what overcame me. And I was like, okay.
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I need to do something profoundly different and more impactful.
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And this is where Chati was born and developed. And
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00:30:07.740 --> 00:30:11.039
what I've seen change so much is, and I love
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that because I'm in the industry of seeing people connect
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for business or for personal reasons. And I'm not in
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one industry. Like I love the lifestyle industry. I love
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the wellness industry. I love the beauty industry. I love
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health industry and food industry.
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I love everything.
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There's some industries that I choose not to go to.
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So I choose not to go to events that's all
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about alcohol or tobacco or car industry. Yeah, nice to
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have electrical cars, but I'm not interested in some of
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00:30:39.259 --> 00:30:43.059
these industries. So in the last couple of years, I've noticed,
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number one, alcohol is going down significantly in the world,
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meaning that people are understanding that alcohol is not what
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we've been programmed to know. We've been programmed that alcohol
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is there to help us connect. We've all been programmed,
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alcohol will help you loosen up, connect, build trust, build rapport,
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find an easier way to connect with people. Complete, I'm
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00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:12.859
not going to use bad words here, but just BS completely.
586
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:17.490
So at the same time, where is the trend going?
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What are people doing instead of alcohol? So I'm like, perfect,
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this is exactly where my trend is. And I love
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00:31:24.130 --> 00:31:29.309
that from the event space perspective, These large-scale events that's
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00:31:29.349 --> 00:31:33.589
all about program, program, program, music, music, speaker, speaker.
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00:31:34.250 --> 00:31:36.769
They're not doing very well in the last few years.
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They're really, really not. And the reason is they're starting
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00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:43.779
to understand you can't have like a 10-hour event with
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like one lunch break and two coffee breaks that you
595
00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:50.619
rush people to connect with each other. People are not
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going to events for the content. That is maybe 50%
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of the reason. People are not coming to a musical
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00:31:57.940 --> 00:32:02.339
concert just for the music. They're coming to connect with
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other people that are sharing the same values or interests.
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And unless the organizers take it as their responsibility to
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specifically think about it, strategize, create space for people to
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00:32:18.910 --> 00:32:23.430
connect with each other, Bring in facilitators, bring in methodologists,
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bring in moderators to help people network. You can't just say,
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we'll give you lunch networking break. Because what people are
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00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.049
starting to understand more and more is that humans, in general,
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00:32:37.730 --> 00:32:42.970
are pretty bad at connecting. I'm speaking as a scientist
607
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who's been studying it for almost 20 years. The world
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of networking is very profound. It's very complex.
609
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And the word of events is all about creating a
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space and an experience for people to network. How we
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attract them, big speaker, big, great chef, great DJ, great musicians.
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00:33:03.569 --> 00:33:07.490
That's how we attract them. But it's really bad if
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00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.019
all we're doing is we basically like give them, give them,
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give them content and then sorry, you got to leave.
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00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.240
You got to leave. You got to leave. Everyone leave. No, no, no.
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We need to give them space to connect with each other.
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Not hoping that, you know, they would be so good
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00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:28.650
at networking that they will meet each other, realizing that
619
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they're not good at it. We need to think about it.
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And that's where community gets built. That's where event organizers
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are one by one coming to me right now and saying, Gil,
622
00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:43.730
can you help us create more loyalty within our audience
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to us?
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Can you help create more reciprocity?
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I'm like, they're starting to learn that what does it
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mean reciprocity within an event? It means that I came
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to your event. You helped me not just learn something
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or be entertained or experience, but you helped me connect
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with amazing people. I will always come back to your events.
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It doesn't matter who the speaker is. Because you thought
631
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about my needs. And when I went back home, I
632
00:34:12.420 --> 00:34:15.619
didn't go home remembering, oh, that was nice music.
633
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Oh, that was nice. I went home wow, I met.
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Amazing people that I'm going to see again and we're
635
00:34:22.010 --> 00:34:25.489
going to talk about the memory we just had. Because
636
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the number one epidemic we have right now in the
637
00:34:27.690 --> 00:34:31.429
world is not the wars and it's not the challenges
638
00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:35.460
in the economy, it's loneliness. That is the number one
639
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:41.699
problem today in the world. All governments will say this
640
00:34:41.780 --> 00:34:45.300
is the number one problem we have today. They call
641
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.380
it mental health, but if you break down mental health
642
00:34:48.949 --> 00:34:53.230
into the top categories of where it falls under, loneliness
643
00:34:53.289 --> 00:34:55.889
is number one. And again, if we look at the
644
00:34:56.010 --> 00:35:00.909
top fears that human beings have, go on Google, GPT,
645
00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:05.610
top fears that we have are exactly all connected to
646
00:35:05.650 --> 00:35:08.570
mental health. What are the fears that human beings have?
647
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Public speaking, or flip it over, speaking publicly, or fear
648
00:35:14.289 --> 00:35:15.110
of rejection.
649
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This is all networking.
650
00:35:18.210 --> 00:35:22.369
So if we're now starting to understand that actually what
651
00:35:22.449 --> 00:35:26.800
we yearn the most is deep connections with people, not
652
00:35:26.860 --> 00:35:28.679
necessarily the people that we already know.
653
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.619
Maybe we've passed them. It's time to move on from
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00:35:31.659 --> 00:35:33.219
these old friends. It's okay.
655
00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:36.460
And it's time to maybe find who is now relevant
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00:35:36.500 --> 00:35:38.969
to us right now. Like right now in my life,
657
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at this point in my life, at this age, who
658
00:35:41.489 --> 00:35:44.690
is relevant? Who do I need around me? That would
659
00:35:44.730 --> 00:35:47.929
help me co-elevate. That would feel, you know, I would
660
00:35:48.010 --> 00:35:52.659
feel they have my back. They're not maybe holding me back.
661
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:57.539
Yeah, I like that. Co-elevate.
662
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.519
Co-elevate was coined by Keith Barazzi about seven years ago.
663
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And I'm very, very good friends with him. So I'm
664
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.699
using that a lot. But, you know, because he's such
665
00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:10.590
a good friend, he's like, Gil, use it as much
666
00:36:10.650 --> 00:36:11.070
as you can.
667
00:36:11.090 --> 00:36:13.230
Yeah. Yeah.
668
00:36:14.230 --> 00:36:19.829
And what is, you have something called quantum networking. What
669
00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:21.469
does that, what does that mean exactly?
670
00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:27.829
So about five years ago, I was meeting here in
671
00:36:27.869 --> 00:36:31.730
Bali in the middle of COVID with some really incredible
672
00:36:31.869 --> 00:36:35.849
professors and scientists that ended up somehow either getting stuck
673
00:36:35.889 --> 00:36:38.989
here in COVID or somehow showing up here during COVID.
674
00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:41.219
And none of us were really busy.
675
00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:44.320
So we just kept on meeting up and talking about,
676
00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:48.639
you know, spiritual journeys and very, very deep, deep conversations.
677
00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:53.510
Of course, using tea and understanding that some of them
678
00:36:53.809 --> 00:36:56.469
loved where my journey is. And we brought it to
679
00:36:56.489 --> 00:37:01.610
a position where, Gil, you're talking about networking on such
680
00:37:01.690 --> 00:37:05.969
a deep, complex level. It could really be seen on
681
00:37:06.010 --> 00:37:10.199
a quantum level, like, that you could use networks to
682
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.679
quantum leap. What does that mean? It means that if
683
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:18.639
a human being is willing to understand, one, I have
684
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.289
not achieved anything alone in my life and I will
685
00:37:22.369 --> 00:37:24.449
never achieve anything alone in my life.
686
00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:26.289
Everything I have ever.
687
00:37:26.210 --> 00:37:28.849
Done and everything I will truly ever achieve in my
688
00:37:28.909 --> 00:37:34.519
life will only be somehow with other people, somehow. People
689
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.639
will inspire me. People will guide me. People will mentor me.
690
00:37:38.010 --> 00:37:40.409
People will open doors. People will show me how. People
691
00:37:40.429 --> 00:37:41.510
will collaborate with me.
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00:37:41.809 --> 00:37:42.170
Somehow.
693
00:37:42.570 --> 00:37:45.489
No one has done anything alone in their life. And
694
00:37:45.530 --> 00:37:47.989
people keep on trying to challenge me. Oh Gil, I
695
00:37:48.050 --> 00:37:50.139
zipped up my pants. Oh Gil, I made breakfast.
696
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:50.599
Oh Gil.
697
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:55.239
Like nothing. Nothing we've done. We figured it out on
698
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.559
our own. It was all because we saw it.
699
00:37:57.639 --> 00:37:58.079
We read it.
700
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.409
And that deep realization puts us in a position where like, okay, wow.
701
00:38:02.769 --> 00:38:05.920
Level one. Everything that I want to do in the
702
00:38:05.940 --> 00:38:06.440
rest of my.
703
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.119
Life, I need to go through a path where I
704
00:38:09.179 --> 00:38:12.239
need to meet and build relationships with the right people. Now,
705
00:38:13.179 --> 00:38:16.679
if you're willing to be open-minded to the level of
706
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.599
depth of networking, we'll understand that networking is not just
707
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.019
chance of meeting people in the right space. Some people
708
00:38:24.059 --> 00:38:27.239
will say, Miguel, I trust God and the universe. They
709
00:38:27.260 --> 00:38:29.960
will always bring me the right people. I'm like, yeah,
710
00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:33.880
God brought you to an event with 100 people. God
711
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.960
is not going to help introduce you to the exact
712
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.699
five people you need right now at the event.
713
00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:38.820
That's up to you.
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00:38:39.219 --> 00:38:42.260
God did his job. Hey, that person is sitting next
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00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.880
to you at an event. If you don't have the
716
00:38:46.300 --> 00:38:49.809
courage and you don't have the training and the practice
717
00:38:50.250 --> 00:38:54.449
to say hello, to start a conversation that's meaningful and deep,
718
00:38:54.969 --> 00:38:58.610
to connect, to ask for their information, to stay connected,
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00:38:59.539 --> 00:39:01.489
God's going to say, listen, you're just wasting my time.
720
00:39:01.530 --> 00:39:04.110
I keep on bringing you exactly who you want, but
721
00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:06.949
you're not even trying to connect. You're asking them, who
722
00:39:07.070 --> 00:39:08.730
are you and where are you from and what do
723
00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:11.170
you do? You're not trying to understand if this is
724
00:39:11.210 --> 00:39:13.550
the person you really want to know. You're staying shallow.
725
00:39:13.949 --> 00:39:17.469
So because people are so out of practice, they're not
726
00:39:17.550 --> 00:39:21.219
understanding that the world of connection and human networking is
727
00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:24.900
so deep on a quantum level, meaning the space where
728
00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:25.679
we're meeting.
729
00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:28.219
People makes a big difference. The noise, is it noisy
730
00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:28.579
or not?
731
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.760
The lighting is it the right kind of if I
732
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.539
can control the lighting and the noise if I can
733
00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:37.780
control the food that is there I should because I'm
734
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:43.570
allowing that connection to happen more easily because connecting is
735
00:39:43.630 --> 00:39:46.840
not easy. If I can control people not having sticky
736
00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:48.900
food on their hands, so they're eating with their hands
737
00:39:48.940 --> 00:39:51.840
and then shaking hands, I'll control that. If I can
738
00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:55.480
control not having onion in my catering, I'll control that
739
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.719
so people don't have bad breath because sometimes if they
740
00:39:57.739 --> 00:40:01.300
have bad breath, people find it funny, but the networking
741
00:40:01.380 --> 00:40:06.590
opportunity dies out. If I can control the music being
742
00:40:07.219 --> 00:40:09.869
beautifully aligned, whether it's jazz or whatever it is, but
743
00:40:10.269 --> 00:40:13.110
it would be... good enough that I can enjoy it,
744
00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:15.650
but not loud enough where I cannot talk to people,
745
00:40:16.369 --> 00:40:19.469
I'm creating space for people to connect. If I want
746
00:40:19.489 --> 00:40:22.750
to create a dancing moment, create it down there and
747
00:40:22.769 --> 00:40:25.329
allow it down here for people to connect. So on
748
00:40:25.389 --> 00:40:29.380
a quantum level, there is so many levels of the
749
00:40:29.460 --> 00:40:33.800
state of the space, my state of mind, my state
750
00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:34.320
of body.
751
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.480
Did I sleep well last night? If someone just finished
752
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:38.780
eating a heavy.
753
00:40:39.989 --> 00:40:44.219
pasta and steak meal and they drank half a bottle
754
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:48.139
of wine, there is no way that they are working
755
00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:51.440
in an efficient way of networking. Scientifically proven, no way.
756
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.460
There's just, their blood is all here in their stomach.
757
00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:57.340
Their head is a little bit changed. They're not going
758
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.429
to connect on a quantum level. They're just going to
759
00:40:59.469 --> 00:41:02.570
connect on a very superficial level. And again, I don't
760
00:41:02.590 --> 00:41:05.989
want to generalize because some people are superhumans and they
761
00:41:06.010 --> 00:41:09.510
can drink two bottles of vodka and still connect beautifully.
762
00:41:10.130 --> 00:41:12.860
Good luck to them. I'm not trying to change everybody.
763
00:41:12.900 --> 00:41:15.940
I'm trying to tell people there are new codes of
764
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.010
networking and on a quantum level you can go deeper
765
00:41:20.050 --> 00:41:22.210
and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper
766
00:41:22.250 --> 00:41:25.590
into how they feel and how you feel and trying
767
00:41:25.610 --> 00:41:28.429
to sense out or trying to mirror them if someone
768
00:41:28.530 --> 00:41:32.070
feels comfortable with you because you can mirror them. How
769
00:41:32.130 --> 00:41:35.989
you dress to events, your perfume could make a massive difference.
770
00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:39.090
It can kill the entire networking experience or it can
771
00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:42.710
completely connect to you. So there is so much depth
772
00:41:43.710 --> 00:41:48.110
to networking. Anyone that wants more information could just write
773
00:41:48.130 --> 00:41:49.969
me on any social media. I have a lot of
774
00:41:50.030 --> 00:41:54.400
free content. I give everything online. I have today for free, everything.
775
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There's books and eBooks and all of it is being
776
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given for free. If someone wants my time, if they
777
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want me as a coach, if they want me as
778
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a strategist for their business, If they want to cross
779
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pollinate and other businesses, they're like, Gil, I want to
780
00:42:08.500 --> 00:42:12.079
take this business and enter in another country. That's just
781
00:42:12.139 --> 00:42:15.539
a networking journey because you were mentioning before the world
782
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of marketing. I believe the world of marketing and funnels
783
00:42:19.500 --> 00:42:22.760
is completely gone. We are now, I believe, or in
784
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the world of tunnels. So we're all in a very
785
00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:29.940
similar tunnel together and we need to choose who do
786
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.449
we want to collaborate with and who do we want
787
00:42:32.489 --> 00:42:35.880
to have coming on our journey to So instead of marketing,
788
00:42:35.900 --> 00:42:42.809
I believe in precision networking, identifying key collaborators to have
789
00:42:43.070 --> 00:42:47.269
around us. And that's how business keeps on flourishing. So
790
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if people want a quantum leap, I tell them, just
791
00:42:50.789 --> 00:42:53.170
like you, when you wanted to learn how to cook,
792
00:42:53.329 --> 00:42:54.940
you didn't just do it on your own. You had
793
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a coach, you had a mentor, someone helping you. If
794
00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.579
you want to learn how to be healthy and you
795
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go to the gym, you find a fitness trainer to
796
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.039
work with you. If you want to learn how to
797
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:08.340
play the musical instrument for the first 2,000, 3,000 hours,
798
00:43:09.019 --> 00:43:10.320
you might sound really, really bad.
799
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But you practice until you perfect it.
800
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I want everyone to understand that in the world of networking,
801
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many of you, again, I'm not judging all of you.
802
00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:20.969
You might be great at what you do. In the
803
00:43:21.010 --> 00:43:23.449
world of networking, you might be a lot worse than
804
00:43:23.489 --> 00:43:25.840
you think you are. And because you might think you're
805
00:43:25.860 --> 00:43:28.719
a 7 or an 8, there isn't much room for improvement.
806
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.969
On my best days, I believe I'm a six, maybe
807
00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:35.239
a six and a half out of ten. And I've
808
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spoken about it to the best universities in the world.
809
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.179
I've been on covers of magazines as a networking guru. And,
810
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.320
you know, I've been on stages around the world as
811
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.920
a thought leader, but I still understand how much room
812
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for improvement I have. So I want everyone out there
813
00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:55.469
to understand that if they were looking for a quantum
814
00:43:55.510 --> 00:43:58.949
leap in their life, like massive shift, change a career,
815
00:43:59.369 --> 00:44:02.829
change a relationship, change a country, take my business and
816
00:44:02.969 --> 00:44:06.070
scale it to another level. The one thing that will
817
00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:09.510
help them is the relationship they have around them. And
818
00:44:10.090 --> 00:44:11.820
there's no need to try to get all that done
819
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by yourself. You know, work with people. There's a lot
820
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.960
of amazing networking mentors out there in the world. I
821
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can recommend people. Of course, it doesn't have to be me,
822
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but I'm always looking to work with amazing people.
823
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I've been playing with a concept. It's like a quantum
824
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QR code that is, um, more and more synchronicity synchronicities. Um,
825
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.340
God will organize or orchestrate things. So you are sitting
826
00:44:41.380 --> 00:44:44.099
next to the person you're supposed to meet, or you
827
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:48.519
stumble across the person that has the offer that you're
828
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:49.820
looking for the missing piece.
829
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Um, And.
830
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I'm looking forward to when I, when I sort of
831
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look into the future, I see that, yeah, people will
832
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just more easily find the right solutions or the right
833
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people that, you know, particularly I'm thinking about when people
834
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are creating something and they're like, they've, they've never done
835
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marketing or they haven't thought a lot about networking before,
836
00:45:18.230 --> 00:45:21.590
but maybe now we have this power of the quantum
837
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QR code, like it's connections are going to be easier.
838
00:45:23.989 --> 00:45:33.480
Do you have any thoughts about facilitating that ability? I
839
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:37.179
guess we've already talked about it. So maybe I'll just
840
00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:40.929
let you riff on like this, the energetic component of
841
00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:44.710
everybody finding the right people to help them elevate or
842
00:45:44.750 --> 00:45:48.369
the right offers outside of the.
843
00:45:50.090 --> 00:45:51.949
Of course, of course. So first of all, thank you
844
00:45:51.969 --> 00:45:54.030
for working on what you're doing. It's really important.
845
00:45:54.050 --> 00:45:57.670
We need more and more people to give attention to
846
00:45:59.050 --> 00:46:01.889
solving the biggest problem in the world, which is human connection.
847
00:46:03.130 --> 00:46:06.010
Like too many people in the audiences think there is
848
00:46:06.070 --> 00:46:10.219
seven out of 10 in networking. And the fact is
849
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.000
they might be a one and a half out of 10.
850
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.679
And I tell them, if you're in constant collaboration mode,
851
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:16.820
you're a two out of 10.
852
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:16.900
Sure.
853
00:46:18.230 --> 00:46:21.750
If you're really good at practicing working with partners and
854
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you have partners that are near you for many, many
855
00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:28.579
years and different businesses or different projects or even a marriage,
856
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.480
you have partnerships, you're a three.
857
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.019
Out of 10.
858
00:46:33.019 --> 00:46:35.699
If you're really good at sharing your network with others,
859
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.409
like you've met someone, you don't keep them. They're not
860
00:46:39.449 --> 00:46:42.409
in your database for yourself. They come through you to
861
00:46:42.469 --> 00:46:46.849
connect with others. You're constantly connecting people together, constantly sharing
862
00:46:46.889 --> 00:46:49.840
your network, then you're a four out of 10.
863
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:50.940
Most people don't do that.
864
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.139
And if you're not constantly connecting people, don't think that
865
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you're above a four.
866
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:55.460
You're not.
867
00:46:56.059 --> 00:47:00.699
And what you're talking about in an energetic level, these
868
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are really high, like, there is energetic level, a level
869
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.760
five and six and seven, like really, really high energy
870
00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:10.730
where you don't really have to leave the house much.
871
00:47:11.269 --> 00:47:15.420
You could be in a quantum state of, outlining and
872
00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:18.460
manifesting who do you really wish to meet and why
873
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.440
at any given point of your life. And without too
874
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:25.420
much effort, manifest those people into your life. It's not saying, oh,
875
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.739
I want to meet a billionaire. Where's the billionaire? They're
876
00:47:28.780 --> 00:47:29.119
not here.
877
00:47:29.139 --> 00:47:30.500
No, no, no. It doesn't work that way.
878
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:37.969
The network manifestation codes have blueprints of how to understand
879
00:47:38.070 --> 00:47:40.349
who it is that I wish to meet. And then
880
00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:43.789
what steps should I take to meet that person with
881
00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:49.539
ease and clarity. No need for it to be difficult
882
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:53.500
or expensive, but people are constantly saying, Gil, can you
883
00:47:53.539 --> 00:47:55.400
introduce me to Richard Branson? Can you introduce me to
884
00:47:55.420 --> 00:47:58.360
Elon Musk? Gil, I want to meet, like, why do
885
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.800
you want to meet that person? Like, what value are
886
00:48:00.820 --> 00:48:03.420
you ready to offer that person? And like, do you
887
00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:05.340
need to meet Elon Musk or do you need to
888
00:48:05.380 --> 00:48:08.460
meet someone from his team? Like, I didn't want to
889
00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:11.800
meet Tony Robbins right away when I started working with
890
00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:15.059
his company. I understood already that I shouldn't want to
891
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.380
meet him right away because I'm a no one right
892
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.139
now to him. Let me build it up. Let me
893
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.739
build relationship with his team. Let me build relationship with
894
00:48:23.780 --> 00:48:25.920
some of his family members that were hanging out at
895
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:28.159
the event. Let me build relation with some of his
896
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.199
best clients that have known him for years. So when
897
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.360
I met Tony the first time, he knew who is
898
00:48:34.429 --> 00:48:37.889
Gil Peterson. And I'm very, very proud to say that
899
00:48:38.349 --> 00:48:40.710
I don't know many promoters of Tony Robbins that were
900
00:48:40.750 --> 00:48:44.699
invited to his home. I've met him many, many times
901
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:48.079
at hotels. But I was invited to his home for
902
00:48:48.099 --> 00:48:50.969
a one-on-one meeting with him. I don't know many people
903
00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:54.949
that could say they went on vacation with Eckhart Tolle
904
00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:56.969
for three days in St.
905
00:48:57.030 --> 00:49:03.139
Petersburg. His family and my family. No paparazzi, no event. Vacation.
906
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:03.440
Why?
907
00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:07.659
Because we served him so deeply. So on a quantum level,
908
00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:10.179
I tell people that energetically, we all have energy.
909
00:49:10.619 --> 00:49:11.179
We all can.
910
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.340
You know, we can sometimes think of someone we want
911
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.139
to talk to and they send us a message.
912
00:49:16.929 --> 00:49:17.550
Energetically.
913
00:49:17.849 --> 00:49:20.590
We sometimes, you know, wish to meet someone in our
914
00:49:20.630 --> 00:49:22.800
life and somehow they walk in front of us and
915
00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:26.039
we talk to them and wow butterflies and business is
916
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:29.059
amazing and we have a relationship and I believe in
917
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:33.679
those I believe in synchronicities because they're constantly happening all
918
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:37.760
around us the question is for people can you have
919
00:49:37.820 --> 00:49:45.409
them happening systematically Can you actually use those codes every day?
920
00:49:45.849 --> 00:49:49.130
And it's not perfect. It's like playing a musical instrument.
921
00:49:49.230 --> 00:49:53.559
You will mess up some keys sometimes unless you practiced
922
00:49:53.619 --> 00:49:57.699
it perfectly for thousands and thousands of hours. Like a
923
00:49:57.820 --> 00:50:03.639
proper pianist will practice for thousands and thousands of hours
924
00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:07.889
at a level of perfectionism for it to sound even
925
00:50:07.949 --> 00:50:08.570
more perfect.
926
00:50:09.539 --> 00:50:13.489
I don't know many people that practice networking at a
927
00:50:13.550 --> 00:50:17.050
level of perfection for thousands of hours. So on an
928
00:50:17.170 --> 00:50:22.309
energetic level, what I tell people, practice understanding that networking
929
00:50:22.349 --> 00:50:27.519
is so beautiful. Practice introducing people. Practice complimenting people in
930
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:31.239
your head. Practice following up with people, which is such
931
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.679
a deep spiritual act of meeting someone amazing and connecting
932
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.760
with them, getting their business card, having building rapport with them,
933
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:42.570
but not following up.
934
00:50:42.739 --> 00:50:44.719
Or even worse, you followed up.
935
00:50:45.219 --> 00:50:47.679
And they said, sure, let's meet up, but I'm a
936
00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:48.920
little bit busy this week.
937
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:50.059
Let's meet up next week.
938
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.639
And you took zero action to follow up with them
939
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.329
the following week because you're like, no, I'm more important
940
00:50:57.369 --> 00:51:00.130
than them. They should follow up with me. Or even worse,
941
00:51:00.190 --> 00:51:03.010
you sent them a message and they read it. You
942
00:51:03.050 --> 00:51:07.949
see the little check marks it psychologically messes up with
943
00:51:07.969 --> 00:51:10.670
them and then you send them another message and twice
944
00:51:10.710 --> 00:51:13.489
they don't respond to you and ego comes in no
945
00:51:14.849 --> 00:51:17.550
i sent them a message they haven't responded and then
946
00:51:17.889 --> 00:51:20.369
like our mind plays with it they don't like me
947
00:51:20.429 --> 00:51:24.039
they're not interested in me no maybe they're just busy
948
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.739
maybe they are preoccupied maybe their kids are having problems
949
00:51:26.780 --> 00:51:28.840
in school Maybe they lost something.
950
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.300
Maybe they just didn't have this moment. Why does our egos.
951
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.780
Play such a big level in like following up with
952
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.199
people and sending them your favorite emoji? So many people
953
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.139
tell me, oh Gil, it was such amazing reaching out
954
00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:44.079
to you and I followed up with you but you
955
00:51:44.099 --> 00:51:44.980
never wrote me again.
956
00:51:45.099 --> 00:51:48.090
I'm like, you followed up with me once. Good for you.
957
00:51:48.110 --> 00:51:51.510
Do you really want to connect with me? Follow up
958
00:51:51.530 --> 00:51:53.050
with me again. Like why?
959
00:51:53.550 --> 00:51:57.789
Who taught us Like following up with someone, like this
960
00:51:58.050 --> 00:52:01.829
act of I want to reconnect. Why does it need
961
00:52:01.869 --> 00:52:04.070
to be a game of like I sent you once,
962
00:52:04.170 --> 00:52:05.639
now you have to send it back to me?
963
00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:09.639
No. If you really want someone, you'll follow up with them, right?
964
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.800
Like if you really want to meet someone, like to
965
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.159
fall in love with someone, like you need to be
966
00:52:15.219 --> 00:52:18.440
a little bit persistent and perseverant and like you need
967
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.460
to show that you truly care and wish, not to
968
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.780
be annoying and selfish Don't be like, you know, a
969
00:52:23.900 --> 00:52:28.719
creep with people, but like follow up and like compliment
970
00:52:28.739 --> 00:52:30.599
them in a way and tell them that you care.
971
00:52:31.260 --> 00:52:33.719
You don't have to stalk them on social media, but
972
00:52:33.860 --> 00:52:36.179
show them that you care. Like when I knew I
973
00:52:36.219 --> 00:52:38.599
was going to meet Richard Branson the first time, I
974
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:42.199
spent a couple of hours the night before researching what
975
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:46.219
was relevant to Richard Branson that week. What was relevant
976
00:52:46.260 --> 00:52:49.219
to him, not what he's achieved. And when I met
977
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.469
him and there was another 20 or so people in
978
00:52:51.510 --> 00:52:54.190
the room and I saw that everyone was asking him,
979
00:52:54.650 --> 00:52:59.269
completely random questions that he's answered a thousand times and
980
00:52:59.289 --> 00:53:02.639
you can read them all online. I was the only
981
00:53:02.820 --> 00:53:05.519
one that found this moment and asked him a question
982
00:53:06.019 --> 00:53:10.110
from a place of relevancy to him, offering us, not
983
00:53:10.429 --> 00:53:13.119
just offering him my help, but saying, Maybe someone in
984
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.579
this room can help you. And suddenly all these rich
985
00:53:16.659 --> 00:53:19.510
people and influencers are looking at me. How did you
986
00:53:19.570 --> 00:53:22.489
just ask Richard such a powerful question? Because I was
987
00:53:22.530 --> 00:53:25.269
looking to build rapport with him, not looking to just
988
00:53:25.369 --> 00:53:29.409
take from him. And the same position of understanding that
989
00:53:29.909 --> 00:53:32.789
doing research, for example, this week I'm doing a lot
990
00:53:32.829 --> 00:53:33.530
of interviews.
991
00:53:33.869 --> 00:53:35.340
I'm hiring a couple of people.
992
00:53:35.949 --> 00:53:39.440
And it shocks me when I tell people how many
993
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.989
of you have spent at least an hour... like researching me,
994
00:53:43.210 --> 00:53:45.550
like Googling me, checking me out on, like, you want
995
00:53:45.570 --> 00:53:48.769
to work with me. And I ask them, be honest,
996
00:53:48.849 --> 00:53:51.969
raise your hand. And I love people's honesty. So I don't,
997
00:53:52.730 --> 00:53:54.750
I don't like not hire them because they didn't do
998
00:53:54.769 --> 00:53:58.500
the research. I'm like, I'm showing them how ignorant we
999
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.760
are as human beings. We show up on a date.
1000
00:54:01.139 --> 00:54:03.119
We show up to an investor's meeting. We show up
1001
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:05.099
to a client meeting. We show up to an interview.
1002
00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:09.059
And we don't spend time to try to connect, try
1003
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:13.280
to network with that person on an intellectual, on a
1004
00:54:13.420 --> 00:54:18.670
spiritual level before we actually start talking. And to me,
1005
00:54:18.690 --> 00:54:21.289
that is on a quantum level, how's more successful we
1006
00:54:21.329 --> 00:54:23.969
could be where like today I had a couple of
1007
00:54:24.050 --> 00:54:27.030
calls with some of these people that are, they passed
1008
00:54:27.070 --> 00:54:30.039
through our interview process. And I was asking them very,
1009
00:54:30.099 --> 00:54:33.230
very openly, like, Did you go deep as to who
1010
00:54:33.329 --> 00:54:36.179
I am? Like really go deep? And one of them said, yeah.
1011
00:54:36.219 --> 00:54:37.659
And she told me how. And the other one said,
1012
00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:40.119
I honestly didn't have time to do that.
1013
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.739
And I'm like, OK. So like I did.
1014
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I spent 20 minutes before my interview with you because
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I'd like to give you a job checking out who
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you are.
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Not just reading your resume.
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Check, like, not looking to see what's wrong with you,
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looking to see what's amazing about you.
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And I did the same thing with you today, Derek.
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You know, I quickly check out your social medias and
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to see what's going on with him, what's relevant with him.
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How can I be most useful for this person? Because
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I know we're going to spend time together. And that,
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to me, on a spiritual level, to anyone out there
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that's listening, it shows that you care, not just to
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the person you're going to meet with, but it shows
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the universe. It shows God that you really want to
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connect with that person. And I think on an energetic level,
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it really allows people to connect deeper before they actually
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came into proximity together.
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Gosh, that's so interesting that you, I'm just recalling an
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experience where I had that exact thing where I was like,
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I want to meet this person. I researched him a
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little bit and we connected and I followed up a
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couple of times. And then like, It didn't work out
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for months. And now when we finally first came to this,
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to the same place at the same time, same event,
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we hit it off and we're, we're in contact regularly,
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but it was that preparation. I think piece of it
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where I like already felt like I knew him to
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some degree. And I felt the connection existed, even though
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we hadn't been yet in communication.
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Wow. That's awesome. That happens to me a lot in
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my life.
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I have dozens and dozens of stories with some of
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the most important people in my life where I met them,
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I followed up with them, and they didn't respond. And
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most people would give up. But I'm like, hey, I'm
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Gil Peterson. Following up is natural. Following up is not
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a negative thing. It's very beautiful. It's very natural. And
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we have plenty of time in our lives to follow up.
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We're just not really good at managing time or Most
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people are not aware of time. And if you're not
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aware of time, then networking is overwhelming for you. Because realistically,
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we don't have so much time every single day to
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do everything we want and to follow up with everyone
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we want. So we need to be very much aware
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of time and to create space and time to connect
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with our existing relationships, to maybe reconnect with some old relationships,
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opening up our WhatsApp and scrolling back three to six months. Wow,
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what a journey. Scroll back six months, meaning these are
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people that you've not communicated with in six months. But
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why did you communicate with them six months ago? And
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then maybe every week is a challenge for everyone's listening.
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Every week, pick five people or 10 people or even
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more and re-engage them, reconnect for whatever reasons you want
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I believe ideal way of connecting is the one-minute voice
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message that's very friendly, asking about them, talking about yourself
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a little bit. The worst way to reconnect, hi, Gil,
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how are you? Please don't do that, ladies and gentlemen.
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That is the worst way of reconnecting. So there's the
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keeping connection within the network. There's the reconnecting with old network.
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And then there is exploring the outside network, creating space
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and time to connect with people you don't know them,
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But you feel that they exist. So you got to
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look out for them. You got to find them. And
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sometimes it takes time. It takes, you know, someone came
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to me and said, Gil, how many billionaires do you know?
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And I know quite a lot of them. And I
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tell them, I've never asked any of my billionaire friends
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for money.
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And they're like, why not?
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I'm like, because I still haven't needed that much to
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ask them. So I'm just building a relationship and building
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a relationship.
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And staying in touch and staying in touch.
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And when I need a large amount of money, that's
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when you go to a billionaire. Not to ask them necessarily,
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but usually a billionaire knows other billionaires. And if they
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like you enough, they'll introduce you to their billionaire friends.
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Yeah. Gil, you're inspiring me to keep improving my own
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connection and networking. It's definitely something that even just a
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little bit of skill goes a long way. You know, I,
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host a couple events here in person in St. Louis
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where we are and it's just a little bit makes
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it seem like wow you're good at this but yeah
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I love that idea of the voice notes and the
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following up because I think you did that You did
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that for me at some point. I was like, oh,
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how nice. Nice little personal.
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It takes one minute. And in one minute, we could
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say more than 100 words. I think not everybody is
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into voice messages, which is why I tell people if
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they don't answer within two, three days, send them an
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emoji and say something like, I hope you don't mind
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this short little voice message. Really wanted to follow up
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with you and wanted to say it by voice and
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not just text. That's, you know, it's personalizing it a
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little bit.
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Yeah.
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Um, anything we haven't covered yet that, uh, you wanted
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to make sure that we touched on?
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Um, not necessarily, you know, it's like, I, I love
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talking to beautiful people and you're definitely a beautiful person
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that's curious. And I enjoy such conversations very, very much,
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you know, out there in the world, whoever is listening, um,
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explore how you connect to people. And if you could
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do it over a cup of tea, please do. And
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I'm not talking about twinings in a teacup or Starbucks.
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No, no, no.
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I'm talking about proper high vibe teas or some flower
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infusions or a way for you to just slow down
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and connect. If we can help you in that, we
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have Chati, Chati Club and Chati Ventures. We're here to
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serve the world. My vision is right now to help
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empower and educate one million more people by 2030. I'd
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like one million more people to know how to serve
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tea professionally so they could be a tea angel or
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a tea barista or a tea sommelier or a tea master,
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where they don't just serve tea to one friend, but
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they serve it in a way that people are like, wow,
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you're really holding space and time for us to connect.
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And I think it's a very beautiful trait for people
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to learn. I'd like us to be the biggest educators
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in the world for this. So We've partnered up recently
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with Human Garage, which is amazing. We partnered up with
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the World Tea Academy. I'm now working inside Human Garage
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overlooking the entire Global Coaches community. If you guys haven't
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heard about them, check out Fasha Maneuvers. Human Garage is
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the biggest educator in the world for Fasha Maneuvers. And
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if anybody in the world wants to connect with me,
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I'm the only Gil Peterson on Google. So follow up
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with me anywhere, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn. And if you want
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me to hear you out, I challenge you to send
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me a one minute voice message and tell me who
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you want to meet in the world and why. And
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I guarantee that it will be me that will answer
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it at one point, not within an hour. My team
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will respond faster, but my team always gets it to
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me because I've created so much space and time in
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my life. And because I've completely hacked how I'm networking,
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I always have time to meet new people.
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So I look forward to hearing from all of you
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one day soon.
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Amazing.
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Well, Kiel, thank you so much. Great to spend time
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with you again.
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Thank you. Thank you for today. Thank you. Looking forward
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to serving you tea one day soon. I would love that.