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Welcome aboard the System
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Our broadcast is about to begin.
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This is the latest on System 76 computers,
manufacturing, and pop OS.
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Now for your in-orbit crew.
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Hey, Alex.
Hey, Emma.
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Welcome back to the studio.
Yeah.
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We're finally back
at Coupes Studio in Boulder.
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Oh, yeah.
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I heard you didn't get breakfast either,
so you brought a box of cereal Yeah, I was
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eating straight from the box in the car.
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Saved some time.
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Got to make it here before
the recording starts.
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Otherwise, it's just going
to be a one-woman show.
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I think it's funny
that you eat dry cereal.
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I mean, it's not a typical thing,
but I can if I need to eat.
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Yeah, it's not your typical Mickey D's
breakfast sandwich that I see you with.
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No, that's my on the go.
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I hail from the northeast.
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I come from one New York parent,
lived there a couple of years, and I
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am partial to a bacon, egg, and cheese.
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All right.
Forget about it.
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Let's talk about hardware.
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We're talking about hardware.
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All right.
Laptops.
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We got a powerful lineup
that has been updated.
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How powerful is it?
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So powerful, it could erupt
like Mount Etna did today.
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Whoa.
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That was so timely, but thinking about it,
this isn't going to be released today.
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I love it.
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Yes.
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So excited.
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Okay, so the Serval W.
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Guys, we told you about it last month, but
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it is available and ready to order now.
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We're still playing with the little crime
theme because a lot of us are just so
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surprised at how criminally fast it is.
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We're trying to venture
into doing more fun things.
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We love doing the fun things.
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We know you guys love it, too.
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Anything to make the nerds laugh.
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The next video is going to be pretty fun
for that one, though, so keep
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an eye on our social for that.
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It's an interesting squirt
bottle thing going on in that.
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So the Serval,
in case you missed the announcement,
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it's got a 24 core Intel CPU,
Nvidia RTX 5060 TI graphics.
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5070 TI.
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50/70, excuse me, TI.
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Up to 96 gigabytes for RAM
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and 12 terabytes of storage.
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And it's a A 2K display,
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1610 aspect ratio, I believe 240 hertz.
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So this is a really nice machine.
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You're going to want to get
your hands on this one.
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I'm really proud that you
just did that with no notes.
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I'm going to go back and check
if that's even accurate.
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My notes are writing the website,
so I have to have this memorized,
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so I don't have to keep going
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Okay, I'm going to quiz you on the Bonobo.
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I'm going to talk about the graphics,
but you get to talk about the other stuff.
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I mean, the graphics is one
of the only differences, I would say.
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As far as the update,
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hearing about the Bonobo WS for the
first time how awesome it is because
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on top of the 18-inch screen,
it features Nvidia,
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RTX, 5080 or 5090 GPUs.
But what else?
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This one is also a 24-core Intel CPU.
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It is up to 192 2 gigabytes of RAM,
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so an insane amount of RAM.
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192.
Are you sure?
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Positive.
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Lies.
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It's right there in the specs.
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I'm checking it.
You're checking?
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All right.
What else?
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So while I'm getting fact-checked,
it's up to 12 terabytes of storage.
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It's a 1610 aspect ratio
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The 2K display is 240 hertz.
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4k display is 200 hertz.
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And if that part isn't correct
on the website, I need to fix that still.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It is 192 gigabytes of RAM,
people, in a laptop.
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Insight.
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I'm speechless.
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It is.
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And by the time this comes out,
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but it is not out yet.
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So maybe it'll be coming out shortly after
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or maybe not, maybe a month after.
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But the Adder is our
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And can you tell me some of the updates
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So the Adder is also a 24 core Intel CPU.
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It is up to 96 gigabytes of RAM,
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a Nvidia RTX 50/50 or 50/60 GPU.
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This This one is 1080p.
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I don't believe it's 1610.
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But whatever power doesn't go towards
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go towards whatever you're working on.
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So sounds like one of the main differences
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the GPU is what differentiates them.
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Very much, yeah.
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And then the Bonovo just blows everything
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RAM and a giant screen and crazy graphics.
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I mean, they're all pretty epic.
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Now, in cosmic news, the engineers are
hard at work on making the beta, Emma.
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There's about 90-ish, as of recording,
90-ish issues for them to tackle.
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We're hoping to get that out to you guys
soon, get that out to a broader group
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of people to really experience
a feature Future Complete Cosmic.
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Yes, the beta is coming.
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Also by Future Complete,
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Features after that.
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It's just the main ones are done.
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Thank you for explaining that.
Ready for testing.
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Thank you for explaining that.
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Just in case there's any confusion.
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We've been looking at different ways
to update the Cosmic and POP pages.
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Now that it's about to hit beta, we got
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I've always wanted a highlight video
for pop,
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something that really shows off all
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it special, what you can do with it.
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You might see this with something like
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video that gets you excited
about using the operating system.
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You might be more excited if it's
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I think it would be really cool to
show off on the page,
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get more and more people excited about
pop, and have an open-source takeover.
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So one big video?
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One big video.
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No promises.
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We're still working on the page,
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I like it.
How long is that video going to be?
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Oh, I mean, how long you got?
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There's so many features to cover.
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It's exactly the answer I
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Open Source Summit is coming to Denver.
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This is one of the largest open source
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and it is hosted by the Linux Foundation.
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And Jeremy and Carl will be doing a Cosmic
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DE presentation at 1: 30 on June 23rd.
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So we're super excited to share
Cosmic with this new group.
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We haven't attended
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We're excited to see people's booths
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that come and see the presentation.
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Presentation and share
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After that, the fun doesn't stop there.
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We're going to be doing a happy hour
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in downtown Denver right after
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We'll have lots of food and drinks
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And oh, Thaleoastra will be there.
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Oh.
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It's finally come home to roost.
What?
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The astra.
To To roost.
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The astra has gone around the world,
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and now it's coming home.
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Well, not this particular astra is
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128 Cores doing something cool.
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Our friends at Ampere are going to be
there to hang out and talk
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with you guys and connect.
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So hopefully you guys can make it.
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It is at 6: 00 Monday, June 23rd.
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If you are local in Denver, you are
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Com.
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It's definitely PM.
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It sounds like a conference start time.
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So I just wanted to
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I said it was after the conference
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Okay.
I space out sometime.
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I think it'd be fun, though, because
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and people are going to be hyped up about
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be like, Oh, you make computers, too?
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I'll be like, Yeah, we do.
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Want to come see them?
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It's good timing, too,
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it's been getting a lot of construction
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When he says a lot, a lot.
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That means $175 million have
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It's been a huge project.
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But it's done now, so that's exciting.
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So we're going to go down there
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Emma, you're interviewing Screenly today.
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I'm actually interviewing
Victor from Screenly, but yes.
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Screenly is his middle name.
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All right, let's get into it.
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Hey, Victor, can you tell us a little
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I'm one of the founders of Screenly.
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We do digital signage,
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term for display management.
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All these screens you see in airports,
in retail shops, and in offices,
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we have a platform to power or
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That's essentially what we do.
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Started out in the world of open source.
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Now we're focusing more on secure digital
signage geared towards
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enterprise and developers.
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That's what I'm doing in a really short
30 seconds about what Screenly is.
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Where would we see some
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It depends on where you are in the world.
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We have a pretty large footprint around
the world, but you will see a lot of our
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screens are in retail environments.
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A lot of our screens are in offices.
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Depending on what company you work for,
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running there, running screenly.
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We have north of 10,000 screens
around the world running our software.
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There's a pretty good probability
that there are screens around you
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that are running our software stack.
That's cool.
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What does your Linux journey look like?
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I know you already mentioned open source,
but let's talk about that a little bit.
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I started my Linux journey back
in the mid '90s, back in slackware.
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That's where I started dabbling with the
world of Linux, and I never really left.
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Had a bit of a detour over the FreeBSD
and BSD and BSD world for a few years,
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but I eventually settled on Ubuntu.
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But yeah, started with Tinkering
with that, traditional like,
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cis-admin style work,
eventually moved on to more DevOps-y.
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When Docker came along,
early on Docker, both in screen,
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then in ad engagement, we were early
in that world and same for Kubernetes.
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But my very first entry point into Linux
was back in slackware, and that's
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where my love for Linux started.
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It was a long time ago.
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Do you remember the version number?
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You put me on the spot there.
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Can I say seven dot something?
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I don't remember the slack for versions,
but whatever came out,
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I want to say 96 or 97,
where you still got it sent with you
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as part of your Linux magazines on CDs.
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Oh, my gosh, the Linux format magazine.
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They actually just stopped printing.
Did you hear that?
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Just like a week ago.
I did not.
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have covered some,
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I think it was Linux Format
that actually had a cover on Amthias.
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That was a full circle of,
wow, we- You're famous now.
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That was funny actually seeing that.
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But yeah, that's sad to hear.
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I was living in Sweden back I had to order
it from the US or the UK because the local
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press did not have a lot of that.
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There's a lot of shipping fees
to get your copy off of your Linux.
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I think, Reddit 5.
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2 is the one I remember having.
5.
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1, I remember having a hard copy
of at least around that era.
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It's so much nicer now with the USB,
just boot up and go.
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It's a bit more convenient indeed, yes.
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Can you walk us through how Screenly
evolved from an open-source project,
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Anthias, that we mentioned,
into a commercial product that is
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used for enterprises today?
Yeah, of course.
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For those who are familiar with or not
familiar with Amdias,
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they might know it by a different name,
which is used to call Screenly OSE.
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That's what we started it out as.
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The origin story is funny.
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Me and my as a founder, we ended up
basically acquiring a failed digital
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signage network in Sweden, and we had
about 10 screens or so on that network.
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As nerds, we looked at it and said,
Hey, you know what?
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How How hard could it be?
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It came with some piece
of software based on flash.
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We were like, That's not going to happen.
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How hard could it be
to write your own software?
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Between Christmas and New Year's
of that year, I can hack together a very
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rough version of what would become the
first version of Screenly OSU or Anthias.
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We started building that on...
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People on this part, you can probably
remember these guys, the ASUS EEPCs.
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Those are like netbooks,
and they had a desktop version of that.
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They were this big or so.
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Like the first, I guess, affordable PCs.
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We started building our side of network
on that, running Ubuntu, probably 804
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or something like that, or 1204 maybe.
1204, sorry.
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It was 1204.
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We built that for our own needs, really.
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Then It just so happened that the RASPA PI
was announced literally
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months after we did this.
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We looked at what we were paying for our
devices and we were like,
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The RASPA PI could do exactly that
for a fraction of the cost.
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We were like, All right, that makes sense.
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We got busy porting what we have
for X86 over to the RASPA PI.
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Bear in mind that this was the very
first RASPA that was waitlisted.
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I got my first RESTPai
in June of the year.
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I think it was, this must be 2012, 2013.
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I think it was something like that.
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We port it over and we announced it
on the RESTPai forum with just a GitHub
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link saying, Hey, we built something.
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It just so happened that a fleet of people
basically managed to get the RESTPai.
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They're like, Now what?
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We basically gave them a use case and it
just exploded It was loaded from there.
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People just loved it and it grew.
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I've lost track on many views
that particular forum post has,
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but it's a large number of views.
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We do this intentionally.
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We never intended to build a product,
let alone a based on this because we just
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solve our own needs,
really, to run our network.
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It was about two months or so after we
published that on GitHub that we had
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a company reaching out to us from the US,
saying, Hey,
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what you've done is really cool.
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We have a fleet of 10,000 ATMs.
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Can you make this run on these ATMs?
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Now, that particular deal didn't work out
because they wanted
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to own the IP and whatnot.
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But we started getting more and more
of these requests and we were like, Okay,
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this is something Coming bigger.
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Eventually, due to commercial demand,
started seeing more people ask for, Hey,
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this is really cool, but I just
want to run this for a business.
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I don't want to deal with myself.
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I want to manage multiple screens.
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I want to have a larger fleet of these.
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That's how our commercial entity was born.
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Initially, Screenly, as it's called today,
which is different from Anthias,
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that's where we broke the names apart.
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Screenly was based on Amthias.
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But Now, they don't share any code base
anymore, but they essentially started from
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the same foundation, but then grew apart.
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Now, they're two completely
different products.
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We still support Anthias.
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We have people working paid full-time
to just maintain Anthias,
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but they are two different products
entirely, very much geared
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to different audiences.
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But we still very much support Anthias,
and we still very much think it's
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important to our DNA to keep
supporting it and doing that.
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People love it and people are using it.
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That led us down the road of building
a company like Completely,
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really, more so than anything.
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We never set out to build
a digital signage company.
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In fact, it's funny because I
just met last week at one
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of the big signage events.
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I met one of the industry journalists,
and he was the one who actually introduced
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me the concept of digital signage.
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I didn't even know that was an industry
term until he actually called out,
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Hey, you're doing this.
And we're like, Oh, I guess we are.
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The industry existed before us.
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But he was not somewhere
we even looked at.
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It just snowballed.
That's cool.
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Just to go back to the very beginning,
I didn't want to interrupt you,
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but did you say that you worked
from Christmas to New Year's?
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I mean, was it a week that you wrote this?
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It was a few months, like two weeks.
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Yeah, like Christmas-ish.
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To write, it was very much
held together by duct tape.
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It was basically like a bunch of bash
scripts that wrapped around FFM peg and
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some interesting Linux commands that I had
never used before, like the @ command, for
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instance, where you could schedule jobs.
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But yeah, it was basically like literally
a wrap up with a bunch of bash script,
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FFM peg, and a few other built-ins.
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That was the very first version of Amdias.
That's cool.
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I love it.
That's a great story.
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Great.
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I think we like, SAP things in or our sync
things in as a cron job to see what's
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to be playing and just play
something from a folder.
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It worked, but it would be a lie
to say that it was bulletproof.
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We're really excited about joining forces
and having you guys use MeerCats
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for the Screenly player MK2.
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Did you want to talk about that?
Yeah.
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This is something that
we've been thinking of.
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We started with the REST part and then
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eventually, as we moved up market to more
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enterprise customers, they wanted
to display more heavy content.
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If you're displaying videos and images,
that's fine on the pie.
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But when you start getting
into the heavier content,
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like heavy web pages and heavy dashboards,
that's when the pie starts to struggle.
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We I introduced our first xSuite6
player about three years ago.
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Two years ago, three years ago.
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That was fine.
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But when we started to see
things like Logo fail and Pixie fail
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and these serious volubility and biases,
that's when we really started to probably
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want to find a different supplier that we
can work with to really lock
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down our supply chain security.
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We bumped into, you guys at one
of the Boon to events, actually.
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I went by the call and Sam over there.
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You guys have been this, well,
for a long time doing Linux desktop,
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probably longer than anybody else, really.
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So familiar with you guys.
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We sparked up a conversation.
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It turns out that what's on you guys
roadmap and what's on your guys' radar,
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very much aligned
with what we are valuing.
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I think supply chain security is one
of those things, particular going down
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to fully understanding the firmware.
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I think very few people in the industry
really understands that.
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We talk a lot about
Coreboot, for instance.
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That's something that didn't make it
into this revision of the screenplay
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player, but we're hoping that either we
can do it over there update with Coreboot
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or maybe in the next
revision to have Coreboot.
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But I think The supply chain landscape,
and particularly with buyers and
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lower-level hardware, has changed a lot.
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We really wanted to find a partner that
speaks and sees the world the same as we
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do and really understand the lower-level
of supply chain security and really can
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help work together with us to provide
essentially the world's most secure
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digital signage player running on Linux.
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I think that was the synergy
for us was pretty obvious.
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There are not that many people
on the planet that really
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understand that lower level of...
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In particular, if you're overlapping,
if you do a Venn diagram between people
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understand Linux,
people understand hardware,
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people understand software,
that Venn diagram overlap is very tiny.
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That's what we were looking in the partner
for the provider for that hardware.
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Cool.
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What exactly are the MeerKATs going
to be doing with the project MK2?
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Will they be mounted
on the back of monitors?
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Yeah,
It varies a lot,
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depending on the use case, but a lot of
them will be used for enterprise signage.
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A lot of them will probably be mounted
behind screens or in ceilings or something
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along those lines, driving big screens.
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There dual displays on this one,
so that can drive up to two screens
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once we enable that support on our end.
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But I think a lot of them will be sitting
in enterprise environments where
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people really care about security.
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I think that's the thing that coming back
to, we pride ourselves in security
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on the software side,
but we need a hardware counterpart
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that can worry the lower level side
of that bias in all those hardware parts.
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Now that we've been doing the commercial
side of this for a while,
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what are some of the interesting ways or
surprising ways that people
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have used Screenly.
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We've seen so many strange use cases,
I think, over the years.
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Maybe not shockingly surprise or strange,
but one of the odd ones,
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we've seen people driving whole hotels,
the in-store, the TV when you go
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into a hotel room that has an idle screen.
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We've had people using our hardware
to drive hotel buildings like that.
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Oh, my gosh.
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When I went to the Hilton,
when I walked in, it says, Welcome, Emma.
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I was like, That is so creative.
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It just had personal options.
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I really liked that.
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That's something that you
can find screenly with.
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Probably not for those.
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Those are probably the Samsung LLG got
a lot of custom hotel options for that.
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But these are more like
you're driving like a...
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What are the channels might be like, Oh,
a slideshow of what's
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available in the region.
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Some more of that stuff.
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We have spoken to customers about
having more of those tailored.
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You could do those tailored
things with Screenly.
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We have a developer environment called
Edge Apps where you could build custom
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applications that could
pull in APIs and so on.
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That would be indeed possible to do.
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That's one of the custom
things we've seen.
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Arth exhibitions, we've seen quite a few.
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Then in large enterprise,
pulling out feeds to be feeds
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to conference rooms, not super crazy,
but that's another one we've
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seen people use Screenly for.
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But yeah, more use case,
I think of big dashboards, big billboards,
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definitely seeing all those as well.
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Do you have plans to maybe incorporate PLS
or anything into the signage,
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or do you already do that?
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Perhaps build it into PLS system,
but rather pulling data from PLS system.
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One of the things we've been exploring is,
imagine that you have a shop and you're
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shopping, you're using maybe
using Square for your PLS system.
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Imagine a smaller retail environment.
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Building many boards based on the data
in there is something that we looked
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at using our Edge app environment.
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You could basically
build a menu board that is dynamic so
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that if you're out of, I don't know,
maybe you have a smoothie shop,
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but you're out of strawberry smoothies
for whatever reason,
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you can just automatically remove
that from the menu board in real-time.
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That populates based on what you
have in your inventory system.
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That's something that we have seen,
we call reactive signage.
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It's pausing live data to render
the content so that it creates a better
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user experience rather
than just a static image.
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Yeah, that's cool.
I like that.
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Are there any customers you're excited
about who use Screenly's digital signage
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or any fun uses for digital signage
that you've seen from users?
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Yeah.
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One of the most exciting customers,
I guess, we locked down in terms
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of bragging rights, I guess,
is one of our customers is NASA.
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I think that was a pretty
cool one when we got that.
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Because it just comes down to they value
our security posture
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and they trust our security.
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Getting device in there is
really challenging.
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We have a lot of banking customers.
471
00:25:57,585 --> 00:26:01,440
Again, much like that in the financial
sector, security is really tight.
472
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,495
Being having that validation that they
trust us is really big for us.
473
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,480
That's what we doubling down on.
474
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,280
We have some 4,000 to 5,000
as customers as well.
475
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,415
Where the procurement process is very
rigorous and it takes a lot of time.
476
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,455
But once you're in there,
it's a testament to your ability
477
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,920
to produce good quality software
and high caliber security.
478
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,895
I think those are things we're really
proud of, really.
479
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Those are compliments.
We passed our SOC 2 compliance.
480
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,600
Not that it changed our security or
anything, but it's just tick box.
481
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,680
We're doing security, right?
482
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,575
Yeah, that's really cool.
483
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,015
That speaks volumes, definitely for
the quality, especially the NASA thing.
484
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000
That's really awesome.
Good job.
485
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,240
Thank you.
486
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,535
Is there anything else you want to add
about Screenly or the future
487
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of the company and where
your products are headed?
488
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,495
Yeah, we have shipped a lot of new
things in the last six months.
489
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,120
We started doing RaspiPi,
we branched out to x 86.
490
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,255
We now have We have an Android app,
we have a Tizen app for CVs,
491
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,175
we have a web-based version,
we have a version for ChromeOS, and a
492
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,800
bunch of other things we're adding there.
493
00:27:08,825 --> 00:27:12,335
That's something that we are pushing a lot
on terms of being available
494
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,720
wherever our customers are using us.
495
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,660
That's something we're pushing for a lot.
496
00:27:16,685 --> 00:27:20,135
We are going to InfoComm next week.
497
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,415
I'm not sure when this is going live,
but next week from the recording,
498
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,695
so I think second week of June,
is InfoComm in Florida.
499
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,400
We'll be there, we have a booth there,
so come check us out if you
500
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happen to be at InfoComm.
501
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,800
We will be even having some cool system
76, swag, I believe, at the booth.
502
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,520
That's something we're there.
503
00:27:37,545 --> 00:27:41,735
What else you should check out our
podcast, The Change Log, where we talk
504
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,640
about what's new in the world of Screenly.
505
00:27:43,665 --> 00:27:45,880
We're releasing, we one
or two episodes a month.
506
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,240
I also have a personal podcast called
Nodding Up with Victor, where I will
507
00:27:50,265 --> 00:27:52,815
be having Carl on my next episode.
508
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,495
That's going to be fun if you want to deep
dive into, I guess, you guys
509
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,935
cover it on your podcast too.
510
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,135
But from my vantage point,
exploring The backstory of Carl
511
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,215
on how system 76 came to be.
512
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,695
That's another hook there.
513
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,135
I guess people could check out.
Oh, that's awesome.
514
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,535
We'll definitely share
that when it comes out for sure.
515
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,120
If you're paranoid about security,
you should check out Screenly.
516
00:28:12,145 --> 00:28:14,695
That's what we do.
We are paranoid about security.
517
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,775
We are doing secure by design.
518
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,600
We are trying to be the best of the best
when it comes to security and actually
519
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,800
show that you could do secure digital
signage, which is, unfortunately,
520
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,055
the industry out there is
still not quite there.
521
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,015
You see a lot of end a few end-of-life
Android devices out there,
522
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,880
end-of-life Windows devices out there.
523
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,520
An example of poor security,
screens being compromised.
524
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,735
If you want to avoid that,
get in touch with us and we can help
525
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,620
you improve your security posture.
526
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,640
Great.
527
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Thank you so much
for joining us today, Victor.
528
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
529
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Let's play a game.
530
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,120
Let's see if you can
guess something for me.
531
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,920
Platypus.
532
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,640
No.
533
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,800
What am I guessing?
534
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Yeah, I was about to tell you,
but you jumped to conclusions.
535
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,880
I have a pack of balloons in my car.
536
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,080
What color are they?
537
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,360
She He's picking the balloons again
because that was the only game I've lost.
538
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,815
Let's see what color are they.
539
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,680
I feel like you expect me to guess pink,
but I'm going to say blue.
540
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,520
Wrong.
541
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920
I stumped you on the balloons again.
Green.
542
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,600
I didn't feel stumped.
543
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Yeah, you just got stumped.
No.
544
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,215
Yeah, that was stumped.
545
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,415
You hesitated for a solid 15 seconds.
546
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,240
I was thinking, but I wasn't stumped.
547
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,800
That's called procrastinating
and excuses for being stumped.
548
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Thanks for joining us today.
549
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Yeah.
550
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,320
And we'll see you next time.
551
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3, 2, 1.
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This has been the System
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76 transmission log.
554
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For more inspiration, check out
the website and follow us on social media.
555
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On your descent back to Earth,
please keep your hands and feet inside
556
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the transport beam at all times.
557
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Captain, sign off in transmission.
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3, 2, 1.
0.
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Welcome aboard the System
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76 transmission Log.
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Our broadcast is about to begin.
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This is the latest on System 76 computers,
manufacturing, and pop OS.
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Now for your in-orbit crew.
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Hey, Alex.
Hey, Emma.
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Welcome back to the studio.
Yeah.
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We're finally back
at Coupes Studio in Boulder.
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Oh, yeah.
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I heard you didn't get breakfast either,
so you brought a box of cereal Yeah, I was
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eating straight from the box in the car.
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Saved some time.
Yeah.
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Got to make it here before
the recording starts.
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Otherwise, it's just going
to be a one-woman show.
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I think it's funny
that you eat dry cereal.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's not a typical thing,
but I can if I need to eat.
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Okay.
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Yeah, it's not your typical Mickey D's
breakfast sandwich that I see you with.
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No, that's my on the go.
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I hail from the northeast.
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I come from one New York parent,
lived there a couple of years, and I
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am partial to a bacon, egg, and cheese.
Okay.
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All right.
Forget about it.
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Let's talk about hardware.
All right.
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We're talking about hardware.
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All right.
Laptops.
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We got a powerful lineup
that has been updated.
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How powerful is it?
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So powerful, it could erupt
like Mount Etna did today.
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Whoa.
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That was so timely, but thinking about it,
this isn't going to be released today.
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I love it.
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Yes.
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So excited.
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Okay, so the Serval W.
S.
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Guys, we told you about it last month, but
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it is available and ready to order now.
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We're still playing with the little crime
theme because a lot of us are just so
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surprised at how criminally fast it is.
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We're trying to venture
into doing more fun things.
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We love doing the fun things.
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We know you guys love it, too.
Yeah.
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Anything to make the nerds laugh.
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The next video is going to be pretty fun
for that one, though, so keep
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an eye on our social for that.
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It's an interesting squirt
bottle thing going on in that.
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So the Serval,
in case you missed the announcement,
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it's got a 24 core Intel CPU,
Nvidia RTX 5060 TI graphics.
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5070 TI.
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50/70, excuse me, TI.
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Up to 96 gigabytes for RAM
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and 12 terabytes of storage.
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And it's a A 2K display,
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1610 aspect ratio, I believe 240 hertz.
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So this is a really nice machine.
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You're going to want to get
your hands on this one.
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I'm really proud that you
just did that with no notes.
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I'm going to go back and check
if that's even accurate.
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My notes are writing the website,
so I have to have this memorized,
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so I don't have to keep going
back and checking my notes.
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Okay, I'm going to quiz you on the Bonobo.
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I'm going to talk about the graphics,
but you get to talk about the other stuff.
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I mean, the graphics is one
of the only differences, I would say.
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As far as the update,
but you could tell people who are just now
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hearing about the Bonobo WS for the
first time how awesome it is because
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on top of the 18-inch screen,
it features Nvidia,
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RTX, 5080 or 5090 GPUs.
But what else?
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This one is also a 24-core Intel CPU.
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It is up to 192 2 gigabytes of RAM,
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so an insane amount of RAM.
192?
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192.
Are you sure?
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Positive.
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Lies.
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It's right there in the specs.
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I'm checking it.
You're checking?
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All right.
What else?
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So while I'm getting fact-checked,
it's up to 12 terabytes of storage.
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It's a 1610 aspect ratio
and 2K or 4K display.
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The 2K display is 240 hertz.
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4k display is 200 hertz.
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And if that part isn't correct
on the website, I need to fix that still.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It is 192 gigabytes of RAM,
people, in a laptop.
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Insight.
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I'm speechless.
It is a wow factor machine right there.
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It is.
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And by the time this comes out,
we have one more powerful laptop,
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but it is not out yet.
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So maybe it'll be coming out shortly after
this podcast releases,
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or maybe not, maybe a month after.
Who knows?
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But the Adder is our
other powerful laptop.
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And can you tell me some of the updates
that we can expect with that little one?
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So the Adder is also a 24 core Intel CPU.
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It is up to 96 gigabytes of RAM,
12 terabytes of storage.
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And that one will have either
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a Nvidia RTX 50/50 or 50/60 GPU.
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This This one is 1080p.
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I don't believe it's 1610.
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Maybe in the next update, it will be.
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But whatever power doesn't go towards
powering more pixels on the machine will
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go towards whatever you're working on.
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So not all is lost on that.
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Nice.
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So sounds like one of the main differences
between our powerful laptop lineup is
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the GPU is what differentiates them.
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Very much, yeah.
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And then the Bonovo just blows everything
out of the water with twice the amount of
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RAM and a giant screen and crazy graphics.
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I mean, they're all pretty epic.
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Now, in cosmic news, the engineers are
hard at work on making the beta, Emma.
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There's about 90-ish, as of recording,
90-ish issues for them to tackle.
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We're hoping to get that out to you guys
soon, get that out to a broader group
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of people to really experience
a feature Future Complete Cosmic.
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Yes, the beta is coming.
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Also by Future Complete,
I don't mean we're not planning anymore.
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Features after that.
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It's just the main ones are done.
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Thank you for explaining that.
Ready for testing.
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Thank you for explaining that.
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Just in case there's any confusion.
Okay.
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We've been looking at different ways
to update the Cosmic and POP pages.
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Now that it's about to hit beta, we got
to prepare for the official release.
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I've always wanted a highlight video
for pop,
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something that really shows off all
the different features, all of what makes
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it special, what you can do with it.
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You might see this with something like
Windows, where they have a nice animated
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video that gets you excited
about using the operating system.
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You might be more excited if it's
not Windows, which pop is not.
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I think it would be really cool to
show off on the page,
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get more and more people excited about
pop, and have an open-source takeover.
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So one big video?
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One big video.
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No promises.
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We're still working on the page,
but that's my hope.
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I like it.
How long is that video going to be?
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Oh, I mean, how long you got?
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There's so many features to cover.
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It's exactly the answer I
was hoping you would say.
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Open Source Summit is coming to Denver.
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This is one of the largest open source
conferences in the world,
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and it is hosted by the Linux Foundation.
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And Jeremy and Carl will be doing a Cosmic
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DE presentation at 1: 30 on June 23rd.
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So we're super excited to share
Cosmic with this new group.
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We haven't attended
this one too many times.
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We're excited to see people's booths
and get to know all the nerds
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that come and see the presentation.
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Presentation and share
our love for open source.
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After that, the fun doesn't stop there.
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We're going to be doing a happy hour
across the street on 16th Street
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in downtown Denver right after
the convention on Monday.
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We'll have lots of food and drinks
and hardware to take a peek at.
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And oh, Thaleoastra will be there.
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Oh.
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It's finally come home to roost.
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The astra.
To To roost.
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The astra has gone around the world,
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and now it's coming home.
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Well, not this particular astra is
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128 Cores doing something cool.
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Our friends at Ampere are going to be
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with you guys and connect.
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So hopefully you guys can make it.
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It is at 6: 00 Monday, June 23rd.
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If you are local in Denver, you are
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Com.
Is that AM or PM?
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It's definitely PM.
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It sounds like a conference start time.
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So I just wanted to
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I said it was after the conference
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Okay.
I space out sometime.
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I think it'd be fun, though, because
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and people are going to be hyped up about
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be like, Oh, you make computers, too?
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I'll be like, Yeah, we do.
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Want to come see them?
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It's good timing, too,
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it's been getting a lot of construction
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When he says a lot, a lot.
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That means $175 million have
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It's been a huge project.
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But it's done now, so that's exciting.
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So we're going to go down there
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Emma, you're interviewing Screenly today.
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I'm actually interviewing
Victor from Screenly, but yes.
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Screenly is his middle name.
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All right, let's get into it.
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Hey, Victor, can you tell us a little
bit about Screenly and what you do there?
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Yeah, absolutely.
I'm one of the founders of Screenly.
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We do digital signage,
and that's just a fancy industry
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term for display management.
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All these screens you see in airports,
in retail shops, and in offices,
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we have a platform to power or
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That's essentially what we do.
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Started out in the world of open source.
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Now we're focusing more on secure digital
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enterprise and developers.
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That's what I'm doing in a really short
30 seconds about what Screenly is.
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Where would we see some
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It depends on where you are in the world.
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We have a pretty large footprint around
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screens are in retail environments.
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A lot of our screens are in offices.
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Depending on what company you work for,
there's a good chance you have screens
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running there, running screenly.
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We have north of 10,000 screens
around the world running our software.
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There's a pretty good probability
that there are screens around you
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that are running our software stack.
That's cool.
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What does your Linux journey look like?
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I know you already mentioned open source,
but let's talk about that a little bit.
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Oh, yeah.
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I started my Linux journey back
in the mid '90s, back in slackware.
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That's where I started dabbling with the
world of Linux, and I never really left.
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Had a bit of a detour over the FreeBSD
and BSD and BSD world for a few years,
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but I eventually settled on Ubuntu.
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But yeah, started with Tinkering
with that, traditional like,
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cis-admin style work,
eventually moved on to more DevOps-y.
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When Docker came along,
early on Docker, both in screen,
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then in ad engagement, we were early
in that world and same for Kubernetes.
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But my very first entry point into Linux
was back in slackware, and that's
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where my love for Linux started.
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It was a long time ago.
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Do you remember the version number?
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You put me on the spot there.
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Can I say seven dot something?
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I don't remember the slack for versions,
but whatever came out,
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I want to say 96 or 97,
where you still got it sent with you
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as part of your Linux magazines on CDs.
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Oh, my gosh, the Linux format magazine.
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They actually just stopped printing.
Did you hear that?
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Just like a week ago.
I did not.
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But it was a funny thing for me that they
have covered some,
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I think it was Linux Format
that actually had a cover on Amthias.
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That was a full circle of,
wow, we- You're famous now.
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Yeah, very click famous
in the Linux world.
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That was funny actually seeing that.
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But yeah, that's sad to hear.
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I was living in Sweden back I had to order
it from the US or the UK because the local
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press did not have a lot of that.
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There's a lot of shipping fees
to get your copy off of your Linux.
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I think, Reddit 5.
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2 is the one I remember having.
5.
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1, I remember having a hard copy
of at least around that era.
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It's so much nicer now with the USB,
just boot up and go.
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It's a bit more convenient indeed, yes.
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Can you walk us through how Screenly
evolved from an open-source project,
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Anthias, that we mentioned,
into a commercial product that is
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used for enterprises today?
Yeah, of course.
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For those who are familiar with or not
familiar with Amdias,
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they might know it by a different name,
which is used to call Screenly OSE.
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That's what we started it out as.
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The origin story is funny.
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Me and my as a founder, we ended up
basically acquiring a failed digital
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signage network in Sweden, and we had
about 10 screens or so on that network.
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As nerds, we looked at it and said,
Hey, you know what?
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How How hard could it be?
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It came with some piece
of software based on flash.
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We were like, That's not going to happen.
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How hard could it be
to write your own software?
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Between Christmas and New Year's
of that year, I can hack together a very
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rough version of what would become the
first version of Screenly OSU or Anthias.
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We started building that on...
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People on this part, you can probably
remember these guys, the ASUS EEPCs.
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Those are like netbooks,
and they had a desktop version of that.
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They were this big or so.
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Like the first, I guess, affordable PCs.
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We started building our side of network
on that, running Ubuntu, probably 804
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or something like that, or 1204 maybe.
1204, sorry.
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It was 1204.
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We built that for our own needs, really.
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Then It just so happened that the RASPA PI
was announced literally
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months after we did this.
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We looked at what we were paying for our
devices and we were like,
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The RASPA PI could do exactly that
for a fraction of the cost.
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We were like, All right, that makes sense.
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We got busy porting what we have
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Bear in mind that this was the very
first RASPA that was waitlisted.
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I got my first RESTPai
in June of the year.
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I think it was, this must be 2012, 2013.
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I think it was something like that.
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We port it over and we announced it
on the RESTPai forum with just a GitHub
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link saying, Hey, we built something.
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It just so happened that a fleet of people
basically managed to get the RESTPai.
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They're like, Now what?
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We basically gave them a use case and it
just exploded It was loaded from there.
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People just loved it and it grew.
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I've lost track on many views
that particular forum post has,
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but it's a large number of views.
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We do this intentionally.
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We never intended to build a product,
let alone a based on this because we just
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solve our own needs,
really, to run our network.
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It was about two months or so after we
published that on GitHub that we had
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a company reaching out to us from the US,
saying, Hey,
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what you've done is really cool.
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We have a fleet of 10,000 ATMs.
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Can you make this run on these ATMs?
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Now, that particular deal didn't work out
because they wanted
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to own the IP and whatnot.
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But we started getting more and more
of these requests and we were like, Okay,
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this is something Coming bigger.
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Eventually, due to commercial demand,
started seeing more people ask for, Hey,
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this is really cool, but I just
want to run this for a business.
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I don't want to deal with myself.
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I want to manage multiple screens.
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I want to have a larger fleet of these.
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That's how our commercial entity was born.
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Initially, Screenly, as it's called today,
which is different from Anthias,
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that's where we broke the names apart.
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Screenly was based on Amthias.
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But Now, they don't share any code base
anymore, but they essentially started from
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the same foundation, but then grew apart.
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Now, they're two completely
different products.
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We still support Anthias.
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We have people working paid full-time
to just maintain Anthias,
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but they are two different products
entirely, very much geared
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to different audiences.
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But we still very much support Anthias,
and we still very much think it's
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important to our DNA to keep
supporting it and doing that.
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People love it and people are using it.
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That led us down the road of building
a company like Completely,
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really, more so than anything.
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We never set out to build
a digital signage company.
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In fact, it's funny because I
just met last week at one
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of the big signage events.
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I met one of the industry journalists,
and he was the one who actually introduced
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me the concept of digital signage.
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I didn't even know that was an industry
term until he actually called out,
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Hey, you're doing this.
And we're like, Oh, I guess we are.
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The industry existed before us.
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But he was not somewhere
we even looked at.
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It just snowballed.
That's cool.
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Just to go back to the very beginning,
I didn't want to interrupt you,
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but did you say that you worked
from Christmas to New Year's?
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I mean, was it a week that you wrote this?
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It was a few months, like two weeks.
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Yeah, like Christmas-ish.
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To write, it was very much
held together by duct tape.
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It was basically like a bunch of bash
scripts that wrapped around FFM peg and
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some interesting Linux commands that I had
never used before, like the @ command, for
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instance, where you could schedule jobs.
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But yeah, it was basically like literally
a wrap up with a bunch of bash script,
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FFM peg, and a few other built-ins.
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That was the very first version of Amdias.
That's cool.
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I love it.
That's a great story.
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Great.
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I think we like, SAP things in or our sync
things in as a cron job to see what's
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to be playing and just play
something from a folder.
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It worked, but it would be a lie
to say that it was bulletproof.
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We're really excited about joining forces
and having you guys use MeerCats
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for the Screenly player MK2.
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Did you want to talk about that?
Yeah.
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This is something that
we've been thinking of.
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We started with the REST part and then
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eventually, as we moved up market to more
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enterprise customers, they wanted
to display more heavy content.
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If you're displaying videos and images,
that's fine on the pie.
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But when you start getting
into the heavier content,
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like heavy web pages and heavy dashboards,
that's when the pie starts to struggle.
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We I introduced our first xSuite6
player about three years ago.
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Two years ago, three years ago.
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That was fine.
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But when we started to see
things like Logo fail and Pixie fail
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and these serious volubility and biases,
that's when we really started to probably
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want to find a different supplier that we
can work with to really lock
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down our supply chain security.
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We bumped into, you guys at one
of the Boon to events, actually.
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I went by the call and Sam over there.
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You guys have been this, well,
for a long time doing Linux desktop,
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probably longer than anybody else, really.
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So familiar with you guys.
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We sparked up a conversation.
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It turns out that what's on you guys
roadmap and what's on your guys' radar,
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very much aligned
with what we are valuing.
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I think supply chain security is one
of those things, particular going down
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to fully understanding the firmware.
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I think very few people in the industry
really understands that.
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We talk a lot about
Coreboot, for instance.
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That's something that didn't make it
into this revision of the screenplay
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player, but we're hoping that either we
can do it over there update with Coreboot
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or maybe in the next
revision to have Coreboot.
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But I think The supply chain landscape,
and particularly with buyers and
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lower-level hardware, has changed a lot.
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00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,655
We really wanted to find a partner that
speaks and sees the world the same as we
388
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do and really understand the lower-level
of supply chain security and really can
389
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help work together with us to provide
essentially the world's most secure
390
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digital signage player running on Linux.
391
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,175
I think that was the synergy
for us was pretty obvious.
392
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,015
There are not that many people
on the planet that really
393
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understand that lower level of...
394
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,295
In particular, if you're overlapping,
if you do a Venn diagram between people
395
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,495
understand Linux,
people understand hardware,
396
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,055
people understand software,
that Venn diagram overlap is very tiny.
397
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That's what we were looking in the partner
for the provider for that hardware.
398
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,000
Cool.
399
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:11,135
What exactly are the MeerKATs going
to be doing with the project MK2?
400
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,720
Will they be mounted
on the back of monitors?
401
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,535
Yeah,
It varies a lot,
402
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,920
depending on the use case, but a lot of
them will be used for enterprise signage.
403
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,815
A lot of them will probably be mounted
behind screens or in ceilings or something
404
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560
along those lines, driving big screens.
405
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,615
There dual displays on this one,
so that can drive up to two screens
406
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,455
once we enable that support on our end.
407
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280
But I think a lot of them will be sitting
in enterprise environments where
408
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,720
people really care about security.
409
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,255
I think that's the thing that coming back
to, we pride ourselves in security
410
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,335
on the software side,
but we need a hardware counterpart
411
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:53,800
that can worry the lower level side
of that bias in all those hardware parts.
412
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,960
Now that we've been doing the commercial
side of this for a while,
413
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,095
what are some of the interesting ways or
surprising ways that people
414
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,360
have used Screenly.
415
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,335
We've seen so many strange use cases,
I think, over the years.
416
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:13,015
Maybe not shockingly surprise or strange,
but one of the odd ones,
417
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,895
we've seen people driving whole hotels,
the in-store, the TV when you go
418
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,880
into a hotel room that has an idle screen.
419
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,480
We've had people using our hardware
to drive hotel buildings like that.
420
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,920
Oh, my gosh.
421
00:23:26,945 --> 00:23:32,120
When I went to the Hilton,
when I walked in, it says, Welcome, Emma.
422
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,015
I was like, That is so creative.
423
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,295
It just had personal options.
424
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,560
I really liked that.
425
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,000
That's something that you
can find screenly with.
426
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,615
Probably not for those.
427
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,215
Those are probably the Samsung LLG got
a lot of custom hotel options for that.
428
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,340
But these are more like
you're driving like a...
429
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,655
What are the channels might be like, Oh,
a slideshow of what's
430
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,680
available in the region.
431
00:23:53,705 --> 00:23:54,840
Some more of that stuff.
432
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,295
We have spoken to customers about
having more of those tailored.
433
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,175
You could do those tailored
things with Screenly.
434
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,360
We have a developer environment called
Edge Apps where you could build custom
435
00:24:04,385 --> 00:24:06,720
applications that could
pull in APIs and so on.
436
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960
That would be indeed possible to do.
437
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,880
That's one of the custom
things we've seen.
438
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,280
Arth exhibitions, we've seen quite a few.
439
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:17,615
Then in large enterprise,
pulling out feeds to be feeds
440
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,815
to conference rooms, not super crazy,
but that's another one we've
441
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,455
seen people use Screenly for.
442
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,200
But yeah, more use case,
I think of big dashboards, big billboards,
443
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,140
definitely seeing all those as well.
444
00:24:29,165 --> 00:24:33,655
Do you have plans to maybe incorporate PLS
or anything into the signage,
445
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,000
or do you already do that?
446
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,695
Perhaps build it into PLS system,
but rather pulling data from PLS system.
447
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,440
One of the things we've been exploring is,
imagine that you have a shop and you're
448
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,735
shopping, you're using maybe
using Square for your PLS system.
449
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Imagine a smaller retail environment.
450
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,935
Building many boards based on the data
in there is something that we looked
451
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,935
at using our Edge app environment.
452
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,615
You could basically
build a menu board that is dynamic so
453
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,775
that if you're out of, I don't know,
maybe you have a smoothie shop,
454
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,535
but you're out of strawberry smoothies
for whatever reason,
455
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,535
you can just automatically remove
that from the menu board in real-time.
456
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,400
That populates based on what you
have in your inventory system.
457
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,695
That's something that we have seen,
we call reactive signage.
458
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,440
It's pausing live data to render
the content so that it creates a better
459
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,120
user experience rather
than just a static image.
460
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,400
Yeah, that's cool.
I like that.
461
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,495
Are there any customers you're excited
about who use Screenly's digital signage
462
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,320
or any fun uses for digital signage
that you've seen from users?
463
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:39,880
Yeah.
464
00:25:39,905 --> 00:25:42,880
One of the most exciting customers,
I guess, we locked down in terms
465
00:25:42,905 --> 00:25:45,960
of bragging rights, I guess,
is one of our customers is NASA.
466
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,160
I think that was a pretty
cool one when we got that.
467
00:25:48,185 --> 00:25:51,255
Because it just comes down to they value
our security posture
468
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,495
and they trust our security.
469
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,440
Getting device in there is
really challenging.
470
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,560
We have a lot of banking customers.
471
00:25:57,585 --> 00:26:01,440
Again, much like that in the financial
sector, security is really tight.
472
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,495
Being having that validation that they
trust us is really big for us.
473
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,480
That's what we doubling down on.
474
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,280
We have some 4,000 to 5,000
as customers as well.
475
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,415
Where the procurement process is very
rigorous and it takes a lot of time.
476
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,455
But once you're in there,
it's a testament to your ability
477
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,920
to produce good quality software
and high caliber security.
478
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,895
I think those are things we're really
proud of, really.
479
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Those are compliments.
We passed our SOC 2 compliance.
480
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,600
Not that it changed our security or
anything, but it's just tick box.
481
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,680
We're doing security, right?
482
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,575
Yeah, that's really cool.
483
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,015
That speaks volumes, definitely for
the quality, especially the NASA thing.
484
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000
That's really awesome.
Good job.
485
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,240
Thank you.
486
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,535
Is there anything else you want to add
about Screenly or the future
487
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,880
of the company and where
your products are headed?
488
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,495
Yeah, we have shipped a lot of new
things in the last six months.
489
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,120
We started doing RaspiPi,
we branched out to x 86.
490
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,255
We now have We have an Android app,
we have a Tizen app for CVs,
491
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,175
we have a web-based version,
we have a version for ChromeOS, and a
492
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,800
bunch of other things we're adding there.
493
00:27:08,825 --> 00:27:12,335
That's something that we are pushing a lot
on terms of being available
494
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,720
wherever our customers are using us.
495
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,660
That's something we're pushing for a lot.
496
00:27:16,685 --> 00:27:20,135
We are going to InfoComm next week.
497
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,415
I'm not sure when this is going live,
but next week from the recording,
498
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,695
so I think second week of June,
is InfoComm in Florida.
499
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,400
We'll be there, we have a booth there,
so come check us out if you
500
00:27:29,425 --> 00:27:30,600
happen to be at InfoComm.
501
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,800
We will be even having some cool system
76, swag, I believe, at the booth.
502
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,520
That's something we're there.
503
00:27:37,545 --> 00:27:41,735
What else you should check out our
podcast, The Change Log, where we talk
504
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,640
about what's new in the world of Screenly.
505
00:27:43,665 --> 00:27:45,880
We're releasing, we one
or two episodes a month.
506
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,240
I also have a personal podcast called
Nodding Up with Victor, where I will
507
00:27:50,265 --> 00:27:52,815
be having Carl on my next episode.
508
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,495
That's going to be fun if you want to deep
dive into, I guess, you guys
509
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,935
cover it on your podcast too.
510
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,135
But from my vantage point,
exploring The backstory of Carl
511
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,215
on how system 76 came to be.
512
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,695
That's another hook there.
513
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,135
I guess people could check out.
Oh, that's awesome.
514
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,535
We'll definitely share
that when it comes out for sure.
515
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,120
If you're paranoid about security,
you should check out Screenly.
516
00:28:12,145 --> 00:28:14,695
That's what we do.
We are paranoid about security.
517
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,775
We are doing secure by design.
518
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,600
We are trying to be the best of the best
when it comes to security and actually
519
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,800
show that you could do secure digital
signage, which is, unfortunately,
520
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,055
the industry out there is
still not quite there.
521
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,015
You see a lot of end a few end-of-life
Android devices out there,
522
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,880
end-of-life Windows devices out there.
523
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,520
An example of poor security,
screens being compromised.
524
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,735
If you want to avoid that,
get in touch with us and we can help
525
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,620
you improve your security posture.
526
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,640
Great.
527
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Thank you so much
for joining us today, Victor.
528
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,280
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
529
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,880
Let's play a game.
530
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,120
Let's see if you can
guess something for me.
531
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,920
Platypus.
532
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,640
No.
533
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,800
What am I guessing?
534
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Yeah, I was about to tell you,
but you jumped to conclusions.
535
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,880
I have a pack of balloons in my car.
536
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,080
What color are they?
537
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,360
She He's picking the balloons again
because that was the only game I've lost.
538
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,815
Let's see what color are they.
539
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,680
I feel like you expect me to guess pink,
but I'm going to say blue.
540
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,520
Wrong.
541
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920
I stumped you on the balloons again.
Green.
542
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,600
I didn't feel stumped.
543
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Yeah, you just got stumped.
No.
544
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,215
Yeah, that was stumped.
545
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,415
You hesitated for a solid 15 seconds.
546
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,240
I was thinking, but I wasn't stumped.
547
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,800
That's called procrastinating
and excuses for being stumped.
548
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,580
Thanks for joining us today.
549
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,320
Yeah.
550
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,320
And we'll see you next time.
551
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,800
3, 2, 1.
552
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:08,560
This has been the System
553
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,160
76 transmission log.
554
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,400
For more inspiration, check out
the website and follow us on social media.
555
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,535
On your descent back to Earth,
please keep your hands and feet inside
556
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,400
the transport beam at all times.
557
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,040
Captain, sign off in transmission.
