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For 30 years, the creator of the NBC series Dark
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Skies kept a scrap of paper they say came from
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a man claiming to work at the Office of Naval Intelligence.
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He called it the secrets of the universe. This week,
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Bryce Sable and Brent Friedman finally showed it to the public.
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And at the same time, the White House says it
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cannot find the full records from the Pentagon UFO program
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Robert Bigelow's company ran with the government. Hey Ufologists, I'm
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Christina Gomez and this is your UFO News Update. Dark
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Skies premiered on NBC in the fall of 1996. Its
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premise was that the government had been hiding an alien
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presence since Roswell, with a secret group called Majestic 12
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covering it up, while events like the Kennedy assassination played
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out in the background. It ran for only one season,
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but more interesting than the episodes was what happened behind
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the scenes. The reveal came in a new episode of
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Zabel and Friedman's podcast, Sound, Light, and Frequency, and their
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latest podcast aired 30 years after the Dark Skies premiere
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party in Zabel's backyard, where a young man who called
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himself only JC approached them. JC said the Navy thought
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this show got a lot right. And to prove it,
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he described scenes from the Dark Skies pilot before it
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had even aired, including a scene where majestic agents removed
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an alien organism from a man's head. Then he drew
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something on the back of a torn bank deposit envelope
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in about 30 seconds and then gave them one instruction.
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Take a listen.
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And as we were expecting him to leave because it
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was in the middle of this party, he did that
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thing where he said, Do you have a piece of
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paper and a pen then? And your wife, Patricia, had
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such a thing. She tore off the back of a
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bank deposit envelope, gave it to the guy. He wrote
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something on it. He gave it to us. That becomes
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the formula. And that's the thing that we've held on
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to all these years, puzzled over it, and now we're
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prepared to show our work.
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At the end, when he gave us this folded piece
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of paper, he said something. Put this away for 10
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to 15 years. Put it in a safety deposit box.
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And at that time, if we don't make a deal,
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you'll understand that I was for real. So a very
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cryptic way to hand over a quickly drawn piece of paper.
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The deal was Navy information about UFOs in exchange for
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shaping parts of the show. JC's superior later tried to
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steer the storyline toward the moon, and the producers walked
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away when they were told the next meeting would be
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at a cemetery at night. The paper went into a
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safety deposit box, was lost during a move, and then
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was found in 2023 by Friedman's daughter. So what was
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on it? Well, the drawing is a vertical ladder of
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symbols wrapped in a spiral line with arrows, and from
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the bottom up, there is a black square, a crescent,
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a downward triangle, a six-pointed star, a shape with lines
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coming off it from its sides, a small dot, a
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circle with 10 rays, and at the very top, a
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large symbol that resembles Om in Sanskrit. Beside it, JC
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wrote a word that's close to Ajna, the Sanskrit name
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for the Third Eye Energy Center. When Zabel showed it
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to researcher Jacques Vallée, Vallée said right away that it
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looked like the seven chakras, the energy centers from Indian
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spiritual traditions that run from the base of the spine
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to the top of the head. So six outside researchers
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have now written analysis. One simple expert linked it to
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the Merkaba, a Hebrew term for a divine chariot that
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carries goods. consciousness. Friedman's daughter noticed that parts of the
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top symbol are drawn upside down, and with this is
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all the information that these two hosts have, they still
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do not agree on what it means. Friedman believes it
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may involve the phenomenon itself. Zabel believes it points to
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the intelligence community, and he explains why.
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He said it was the secrets of the universe. He
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said it was sound, light, and frequency. If he was
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just there, to con us with some grand disinformation thing,
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it would have been a theory of propulsion, not sound, light,
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and frequency.
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Zabel also found a paper trail, a declassified Naval Intelligence
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Command memo dated September 19, 1978. that names a Navy
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contact for the Defense Department's remote viewing research. That effort,
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also known as Stargate, included the Gateway Process, a method
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designed for the push for consciousness beyond the body. So
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Navy intelligence was involved in consciousness research 18 years before J.C.
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arrived at Zabel's party. Now, it doesn't prove who J.C. was,
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but it does show that his drawing matches what the
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Navy was studying at the time, even before then. So
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take a very close look at this formula. Do you
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see a chakra map, a set of instructions, or a test?
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You tell me. The other records in the news are
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the ones the government can't find. As you know by now,
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on September 18th, the Pentagon released its sixth batch of
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UFO files, with 71 files in total. At the center
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was 37 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents, known as DIRDS, from OSAP,
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the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program, and this was
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Bigelow's company that he ran for the Defense Intelligence Agency
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from 2008 to 2012. Critics online said that the dirts
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have nothing to do with UFOs. But on the latest
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Bigelow podcast, Dr. Colm Kelleher, who helped run the program,
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completely disagreed.
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The OSAP dirts were really the first step in getting
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conceptual reverse engineering of UFOs. So the idea that people
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have said on social media that they have nothing to
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do with UFOs Their genesis was UFOs and UFO performance.
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It establishes a baseline of what we can do now,
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what our technology is now, what we anticipated could be
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in 40 or 50 years. And then when you've got
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examples that are way outside the norm of that, it's unusual.
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That's right.
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Then Fox News correspondent Peter Doocy reported that senior White
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House official told him they could not find any copy
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of the full program records. The government paid about $ 22
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million for that program, and Kelleher says the records were
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real and even delivered.
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When we were putting together the final set of documents
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in my office before they were sent to Defense Intelligence Agency,
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there was a stack of three-ring binders that was between
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five and six feet tall in my office that were
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eventually FedExed to Defense Intelligence Agency. So we're talking between 8,000
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and 10,000 pages of documents that would have to be
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separately gone through line by line in order to identify
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personal identifiable information, medical issues that people have talked about
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during UFO. So a lot of confidential information would have
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to be scrutinized. So that's an enormous amount of work
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that would need to be, you.
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Know, gone into.
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He says both paper and electronic copies went to the
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Defense Intelligence Agency. He also supported the files may have
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been placed under a new classification that blocks their release.
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If so, the records are not lost. They're just locked away.
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And Bigelow also shared new details from his February meeting
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with President Trump. He brought up, Seven papers covering UFOs,
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the Space Force, the moon, a missile defense system called
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Golden Dome, artificial intelligence, and more. And he gave himself
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about 11 minutes per topic. He says the president was
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distracted and asked four questions unrelated to what he was
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even presenting. But looking back, Bigelow says he should have
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focused on three or four topics. His biggest push, aside
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from UFOs, was the Space Force. And the reason ties
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back to secrecy. Bigelow is the man whose company ran
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the Pentagon's UFO research program, and he argues NASA is
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the wrong agency for anything sensitive. NASA is a civilian agency,
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and its astronauts on the International Space Station share the
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station with crews from other nations and do not need
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high-level clearances. Bigelow says the Space Force would have access
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to classified programs NASA never will. And he also says
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that NASA is very divided, with 10 field centers competing
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for money all the time.
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And that is, he needs to sanction Space Force to
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have astronauts. You got to put some teeth. You got
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to create the muscle, which NASA doesn't have. You're going
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to have a, you have to have something that's really
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capable of the fight. If you're going to have a
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dog in the fight, make it a capable, mean dog
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if necessary. It isn't NASA. It's a political dog. It's
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a political animal. Space Force has tremendous potential.
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He wants Space Force to have its own astronauts and
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stations in orbit. around the moon and on its surface
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with a budget three to four times larger. Then Bigelow
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warned the president about artificial intelligence. A recent Los Angeles
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Review Journal report quoted the president calling fears of an
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AI takeover a hoax. But Bigelow doesn't think so.
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We have here, researcher says human race is in serious danger.
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President says concerns of AI taking over is a hoax. George,
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it is no goddamn hoax. We don't know enough yet
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to where we can say we don't need to be
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really concerned. We know enough to say we should be
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really concerned.
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He brought it back to UFOs. Knapp noted that OSAP
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had planned to run AI across its data warehouse of
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UFO cases to connect patterns. But Bigelow said something else.
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AI might one day prefer to deal with ET, who
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think faster than humans, rather than with us. And he
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stressed he was not predicting it, only that the future
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tends to surprise us. After 30 years, the Dark Skies
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formula is public. And the OSAP records are still missing.
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Which one do you think will tell us more about
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what the government knows? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.
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I'm Christina Gomez. That is it for today. I will
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see you again next time for another UFO News update.
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Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.
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For 30 years, the creator of the NBC series Dark
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Skies kept a scrap of paper they say came from
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a man claiming to work at the Office of Naval Intelligence.
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He called it the secrets of the universe. This week,
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Bryce Sable and Brent Friedman finally showed it to the public.
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And at the same time, the White House says it
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cannot find the full records from the Pentagon UFO program
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Robert Bigelow's company ran with the government. Hey Ufologists, I'm
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Christina Gomez and this is your UFO News Update. Dark
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Skies premiered on NBC in the fall of 1996. Its
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premise was that the government had been hiding an alien
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presence since Roswell, with a secret group called Majestic 12
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covering it up, while events like the Kennedy assassination played
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out in the background. It ran for only one season,
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but more interesting than the episodes was what happened behind
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00:00:56.450 --> 00:00:59.520
the scenes. The reveal came in a new episode of
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Zabel and Friedman's podcast, Sound, Light, and Frequency, and their
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latest podcast aired 30 years after the Dark Skies premiere
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party in Zabel's backyard, where a young man who called
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himself only JC approached them. JC said the Navy thought
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this show got a lot right. And to prove it,
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he described scenes from the Dark Skies pilot before it
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had even aired, including a scene where majestic agents removed
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an alien organism from a man's head. Then he drew
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something on the back of a torn bank deposit envelope
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in about 30 seconds and then gave them one instruction.
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Take a listen.
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And as we were expecting him to leave because it
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was in the middle of this party, he did that
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thing where he said, Do you have a piece of
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paper and a pen then? And your wife, Patricia, had
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such a thing. She tore off the back of a
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bank deposit envelope, gave it to the guy. He wrote
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something on it. He gave it to us. That becomes
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the formula. And that's the thing that we've held on
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to all these years, puzzled over it, and now we're
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prepared to show our work.
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At the end, when he gave us this folded piece
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of paper, he said something. Put this away for 10
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to 15 years. Put it in a safety deposit box.
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And at that time, if we don't make a deal,
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you'll understand that I was for real. So a very
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cryptic way to hand over a quickly drawn piece of paper.
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The deal was Navy information about UFOs in exchange for
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shaping parts of the show. JC's superior later tried to
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steer the storyline toward the moon, and the producers walked
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away when they were told the next meeting would be
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at a cemetery at night. The paper went into a
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safety deposit box, was lost during a move, and then
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was found in 2023 by Friedman's daughter. So what was
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on it? Well, the drawing is a vertical ladder of
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symbols wrapped in a spiral line with arrows, and from
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the bottom up, there is a black square, a crescent,
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a downward triangle, a six-pointed star, a shape with lines
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coming off it from its sides, a small dot, a
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circle with 10 rays, and at the very top, a
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large symbol that resembles Om in Sanskrit. Beside it, JC
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wrote a word that's close to Ajna, the Sanskrit name
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for the Third Eye Energy Center. When Zabel showed it
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to researcher Jacques Vallée, Vallée said right away that it
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looked like the seven chakras, the energy centers from Indian
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spiritual traditions that run from the base of the spine
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to the top of the head. So six outside researchers
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have now written analysis. One simple expert linked it to
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the Merkaba, a Hebrew term for a divine chariot that
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carries goods. consciousness. Friedman's daughter noticed that parts of the
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top symbol are drawn upside down, and with this is
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all the information that these two hosts have, they still
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do not agree on what it means. Friedman believes it
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may involve the phenomenon itself. Zabel believes it points to
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the intelligence community, and he explains why.
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He said it was the secrets of the universe. He
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said it was sound, light, and frequency. If he was
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just there, to con us with some grand disinformation thing,
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it would have been a theory of propulsion, not sound, light,
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and frequency.
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Zabel also found a paper trail, a declassified Naval Intelligence
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Command memo dated September 19, 1978. that names a Navy
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contact for the Defense Department's remote viewing research. That effort,
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also known as Stargate, included the Gateway Process, a method
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designed for the push for consciousness beyond the body. So
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Navy intelligence was involved in consciousness research 18 years before J.C.
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arrived at Zabel's party. Now, it doesn't prove who J.C. was,
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but it does show that his drawing matches what the
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Navy was studying at the time, even before then. So
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take a very close look at this formula. Do you
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see a chakra map, a set of instructions, or a test?
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You tell me. The other records in the news are
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the ones the government can't find. As you know by now,
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on September 18th, the Pentagon released its sixth batch of
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UFO files, with 71 files in total. At the center
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was 37 Defense Intelligence Reference Documents, known as DIRDS, from OSAP,
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the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program, and this was
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Bigelow's company that he ran for the Defense Intelligence Agency
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from 2008 to 2012. Critics online said that the dirts
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have nothing to do with UFOs. But on the latest
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Bigelow podcast, Dr. Colm Kelleher, who helped run the program,
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completely disagreed.
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The OSAP dirts were really the first step in getting
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conceptual reverse engineering of UFOs. So the idea that people
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have said on social media that they have nothing to
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do with UFOs Their genesis was UFOs and UFO performance.
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It establishes a baseline of what we can do now,
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what our technology is now, what we anticipated could be
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in 40 or 50 years. And then when you've got
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examples that are way outside the norm of that, it's unusual.
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That's right.
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Then Fox News correspondent Peter Doocy reported that senior White
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House official told him they could not find any copy
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of the full program records. The government paid about $ 22
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million for that program, and Kelleher says the records were
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real and even delivered.
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When we were putting together the final set of documents
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in my office before they were sent to Defense Intelligence Agency,
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there was a stack of three-ring binders that was between
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five and six feet tall in my office that were
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eventually FedExed to Defense Intelligence Agency. So we're talking between 8,000
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and 10,000 pages of documents that would have to be
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separately gone through line by line in order to identify
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personal identifiable information, medical issues that people have talked about
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during UFO. So a lot of confidential information would have
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to be scrutinized. So that's an enormous amount of work
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that would need to be, you.
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Know, gone into.
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He says both paper and electronic copies went to the
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Defense Intelligence Agency. He also supported the files may have
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been placed under a new classification that blocks their release.
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If so, the records are not lost. They're just locked away.
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And Bigelow also shared new details from his February meeting
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with President Trump. He brought up, Seven papers covering UFOs,
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the Space Force, the moon, a missile defense system called
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Golden Dome, artificial intelligence, and more. And he gave himself
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about 11 minutes per topic. He says the president was
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distracted and asked four questions unrelated to what he was
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even presenting. But looking back, Bigelow says he should have
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focused on three or four topics. His biggest push, aside
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from UFOs, was the Space Force. And the reason ties
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back to secrecy. Bigelow is the man whose company ran
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the Pentagon's UFO research program, and he argues NASA is
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the wrong agency for anything sensitive. NASA is a civilian agency,
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and its astronauts on the International Space Station share the
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station with crews from other nations and do not need
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high-level clearances. Bigelow says the Space Force would have access
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to classified programs NASA never will. And he also says
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that NASA is very divided, with 10 field centers competing
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for money all the time.
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And that is, he needs to sanction Space Force to
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have astronauts. You got to put some teeth. You got
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to create the muscle, which NASA doesn't have. You're going
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to have a, you have to have something that's really
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capable of the fight. If you're going to have a
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dog in the fight, make it a capable, mean dog
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if necessary. It isn't NASA. It's a political dog. It's
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a political animal. Space Force has tremendous potential.
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He wants Space Force to have its own astronauts and
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stations in orbit. around the moon and on its surface
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with a budget three to four times larger. Then Bigelow
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warned the president about artificial intelligence. A recent Los Angeles
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Review Journal report quoted the president calling fears of an
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AI takeover a hoax. But Bigelow doesn't think so.
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We have here, researcher says human race is in serious danger.
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President says concerns of AI taking over is a hoax. George,
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it is no goddamn hoax. We don't know enough yet
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to where we can say we don't need to be
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really concerned. We know enough to say we should be
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really concerned.
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He brought it back to UFOs. Knapp noted that OSAP
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had planned to run AI across its data warehouse of
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UFO cases to connect patterns. But Bigelow said something else.
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AI might one day prefer to deal with ET, who
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think faster than humans, rather than with us. And he
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stressed he was not predicting it, only that the future
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tends to surprise us. After 30 years, the Dark Skies
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formula is public. And the OSAP records are still missing.
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Which one do you think will tell us more about
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what the government knows? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.
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I'm Christina Gomez. That is it for today. I will
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see you again next time for another UFO News update.
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Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.
