The GATE Program's Hidden Purpose | Paranoid American & Ryder Lee

WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.190 --> 00:00:07.459
Everyone is psychic, but only 1% of the population is accurate.
2
00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:11.539
Good evening, listeners, brave navigators of the enigmatic and the concealed.
3
00:00:12.060 --> 00:00:14.619
Have you ever felt the pull of the unanswered, the
4
00:00:14.699 --> 00:00:18.699
allure of the mysteries that shroud our existence? For more
5
00:00:18.750 --> 00:00:21.730
than a decade, a unique comic publisher has dared to
6
00:00:21.769 --> 00:00:25.190
dive into these mysteries, unafraid of the secrets they might uncover.
7
00:00:25.809 --> 00:00:29.620
This audacious entity is Paranoid American. Welcome to the mystifying
8
00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:31.879
universe of the Paranoid American podcast.
9
00:00:33.649 --> 00:00:36.570
Launched in the year 2012, Paranoid American has been on
10
00:00:36.609 --> 00:00:39.210
a mission to decipher the encrypted secrets of our world.
11
00:00:40.490 --> 00:00:43.810
From the unnerving enigma of MKUltra mind control to the
12
00:00:43.850 --> 00:00:48.670
clandestine assemblies of secret societies. From the awe-inspiring frontiers of
13
00:00:48.750 --> 00:00:52.549
forbidden technology to the arcane patterns of occult symbols in
14
00:00:52.590 --> 00:00:55.909
our very own pop culture. They have committed to unveiling
15
00:00:55.950 --> 00:00:59.850
the concealed realities that lie just beneath the surface. Join
16
00:00:59.890 --> 00:01:03.079
us as we navigate these intricate landscapes, decoding the hidden
17
00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:06.819
scripts of our society and challenging the accepted perceptions of reality.
18
00:01:07.260 --> 00:01:08.700
Folks, I've got a big problem on my hands.
19
00:01:08.739 --> 00:01:11.849
There's a company called Paranoid American making all these funny
20
00:01:11.909 --> 00:01:12.950
memes and comics.
21
00:01:13.010 --> 00:01:15.549
Now I'm a fair guy. I believe in free speech.
22
00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:18.049
As long as it doesn't cross the line. And if
23
00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:21.030
these AI-generated memes dare to make fun of me, they're
24
00:01:21.049 --> 00:01:21.849
crossing the line.
25
00:01:22.250 --> 00:01:26.209
This is your expedition into the realm of the extraordinary,
26
00:01:26.329 --> 00:01:30.230
the secret, the shrouded. Come with us as we sift
27
00:01:30.290 --> 00:01:35.099
through the world's grand mysteries, question the standardized narratives, and
28
00:01:35.219 --> 00:01:40.000
brave the cryptic labyrinth of the concealed truth. So strap
29
00:01:40.060 --> 00:01:45.250
yourselves in, broaden your horizons and steal yourselves for a
30
00:01:45.290 --> 00:01:49.450
voyage into the enigmatic heart of the paranoid American podcast,
31
00:01:50.250 --> 00:01:53.840
where each story, every image, every revelation brings us one
32
00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:56.879
step closer to the elusive truth.
33
00:02:06.420 --> 00:02:08.439
Here we are, man. I got Ryder Lee back in
34
00:02:08.460 --> 00:02:14.020
the studio, another Paranoid American podcast, crowd favorite by far.
35
00:02:15.180 --> 00:02:18.620
And man, the last time we were talking, we got
36
00:02:18.860 --> 00:02:21.659
all deep into Kubrick as one does, especially when you're
37
00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.379
talking to Ryder Lee. But we were talking offline and
38
00:02:25.419 --> 00:02:27.419
you mentioned the GATE program. In fact, you've got a
39
00:02:27.460 --> 00:02:31.219
whole new documentary out about the GATE program. And to
40
00:02:31.259 --> 00:02:35.840
be clear, we're saying GATE or GAY program. or gay
41
00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:38.580
gate program gay.
42
00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.319
Gate uh it's whatever you want it to be really
43
00:02:41.430 --> 00:02:46.110
no uh it's a gate program g-a-t-e but um yeah
44
00:02:46.129 --> 00:02:49.210
it's uh called psychic agent the gate program and it
45
00:02:49.310 --> 00:02:52.509
is on amazon prime hopefully we can get a link
46
00:02:52.550 --> 00:02:55.789
in the description for people to get easy access to
47
00:02:55.830 --> 00:02:59.939
that but yeah it was kind of The amalgamation of
48
00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.020
everything where everything was kind of leading up to my
49
00:03:03.060 --> 00:03:06.919
first movie, JFK solving the crime of the century came out.
50
00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.099
And then I did the Kubrick, which kind of rounded
51
00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:15.150
out Jay Widener's trilogy of movies with his Kubrick's Odyssey
52
00:03:15.310 --> 00:03:18.030
one and two films. And then I kind of he
53
00:03:18.069 --> 00:03:19.889
never did the third one. And I was like, hey, man,
54
00:03:20.050 --> 00:03:23.680
let's I got a new theory. let's put together a
55
00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:25.979
third one. So we'll complete that cycle for you. And
56
00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:27.860
then it will give me another movie. And then on
57
00:03:27.900 --> 00:03:29.960
this one, I was like, I just got to do,
58
00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:33.099
I got to do my own thing on this one.
59
00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.860
And it's kind of my, um, you know, what I
60
00:03:36.939 --> 00:03:39.740
decided to do next. And it was really important for
61
00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:41.860
me because I had been studying and looking into a
62
00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.409
lot of the MK ultra programs. And that's really how the,
63
00:03:45.650 --> 00:03:48.879
this whole thing came about was looking into MK ultra and,
64
00:03:49.509 --> 00:03:51.939
exactly what was going on there and all of the
65
00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:56.840
sub-projects that involve testing ESP and psychic abilities. And then
66
00:03:56.900 --> 00:04:00.430
I got into the Stargate program. See, that's the thing
67
00:04:00.490 --> 00:04:05.599
is there's so many different programs that have gate in
68
00:04:05.620 --> 00:04:09.509
the title that it's very confusing and it gets very
69
00:04:09.569 --> 00:04:12.810
convoluted and people get confused on what you get that
70
00:04:12.830 --> 00:04:15.090
you're talking about i mean how many gates have we
71
00:04:15.110 --> 00:04:17.389
had with water gate everyone's on a gate you know
72
00:04:17.410 --> 00:04:21.189
what i mean deflate gate like so many gates uh
73
00:04:21.269 --> 00:04:25.310
that yeah pizza gate exactly all this stuff uh you
74
00:04:25.329 --> 00:04:29.110
know revolves around some kind of gate so it gets
75
00:04:29.269 --> 00:04:32.579
um it gets kind of confusing, but it was important
76
00:04:32.819 --> 00:04:35.740
for me to really lay a history out in the movie.
77
00:04:36.259 --> 00:04:38.139
And that's what I do in the first hour of
78
00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:43.279
the movie is really dive deep into the government's Stargate
79
00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:48.660
remote viewing unit at Fort Meade, Maryland, which started in
80
00:04:48.660 --> 00:04:52.870
1978 and ended in 1995, but it wasn't always called
81
00:04:53.509 --> 00:04:56.250
Stargate unit. And that's really what we get into in
82
00:04:56.290 --> 00:04:59.910
that first hour is all of the different name changes.
83
00:04:59.990 --> 00:05:02.649
It went from you know, center lane, the sun streak
84
00:05:02.689 --> 00:05:04.910
to grill flame to all these different, and it went
85
00:05:05.089 --> 00:05:08.069
bounced back and forth between the DIA and army intelligence.
86
00:05:08.129 --> 00:05:11.069
And then where did that really start? The CIA funding
87
00:05:11.209 --> 00:05:13.529
SRI back in the early seventies, but then it goes
88
00:05:13.569 --> 00:05:18.329
back even further than that into, uh, Duke university, which, uh,
89
00:05:18.410 --> 00:05:22.379
by this guy named, uh, JB Ryan, uh, he was, uh,
90
00:05:22.649 --> 00:05:26.680
he developed this, uh, telepathy car game along with Carl Zender, uh,
91
00:05:27.699 --> 00:05:30.610
which was, uh, called the Zender cards, which Zender, he
92
00:05:30.649 --> 00:05:33.759
tested on indigenous school children in Canada and then also
93
00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:38.040
kids within the United States, which are these, it's a
94
00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.259
telepathy card game where they have symbols on the backs
95
00:05:41.300 --> 00:05:43.259
of the cards or on the front of the card.
96
00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.029
And then you flip the card over and then you
97
00:05:45.110 --> 00:05:48.850
ask the student what shape is on the card. And
98
00:05:48.889 --> 00:05:52.610
then they, they'll use their psychic abilities and tell you
99
00:05:52.649 --> 00:05:55.230
what shape is on the card, which is a very
100
00:05:55.290 --> 00:06:00.110
common thing that people remember within the public school gifted
101
00:06:00.149 --> 00:06:04.769
and talented programs. So it's really a lot. We cram
102
00:06:04.810 --> 00:06:09.439
a lot in there and it's around an hour and
103
00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.439
45 to an hour and 50 minutes. So it's jam-packed
104
00:06:13.500 --> 00:06:18.600
with information. So I really appreciate it if after you're
105
00:06:18.620 --> 00:06:21.019
done listening to this with me and Paranoid American, if
106
00:06:21.060 --> 00:06:23.779
you go and rent the movie, it's only $ 2. 99 to
107
00:06:23.819 --> 00:06:31.120
rent it and you can buy it for $ 9. 99.
108
00:06:29.110 --> 00:06:32.129
And just for the record, uh, I was in the
109
00:06:32.209 --> 00:06:34.629
gifted program and we're going to talk about that, which
110
00:06:34.689 --> 00:06:38.029
means I might've been in the gate program. So there
111
00:06:38.089 --> 00:06:41.069
might be a chance that I'll know whether or not
112
00:06:41.170 --> 00:06:45.009
you listening right now went and watched Ryder's new documentary. Uh,
113
00:06:45.689 --> 00:06:48.240
cause if you didn't, then we're going to, we're going
114
00:06:48.250 --> 00:06:49.899
to find you and we're going to kill you.
115
00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:54.160
Well, that's the thing is a lot of people, they'll,
116
00:06:54.339 --> 00:06:56.819
they will claim like the skeptics and the people will
117
00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.860
claim that, you know, that a lot of the things
118
00:06:59.899 --> 00:07:03.779
that people experience in the gay pro everybody experienced that
119
00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.500
it was just this standard type of test. Some people
120
00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:10.160
have claimed that it was like the, the president's physical
121
00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:13.720
fitness test where, or the, from the health department that
122
00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.279
would come in and give them a drink, but that's
123
00:07:16.379 --> 00:07:19.740
not what I'm referring to. Yeah, that did happen. And
124
00:07:19.819 --> 00:07:21.930
I do remember having to do that when I was
125
00:07:22.170 --> 00:07:24.350
in school, I was in a private school, but I
126
00:07:24.389 --> 00:07:27.269
do remember the health department. coming and having you swish
127
00:07:27.310 --> 00:07:29.120
around a thing in your mouth. It was like once
128
00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:30.779
a year they.
129
00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:30.519
Would do it.
130
00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.680
It was normally in the beginning of the year that
131
00:07:32.699 --> 00:07:34.279
the health department would come and you just swish a
132
00:07:34.300 --> 00:07:36.220
little thing in your mouth and spit it out. And then,
133
00:07:36.579 --> 00:07:39.040
you know, that was fluoride or whatever it was. And
134
00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.680
then they would have you have you doing hand washing
135
00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.120
things where they put this, this stuff on your hands
136
00:07:44.180 --> 00:07:47.800
and then go put it underneath the water. And then
137
00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:50.000
they'll shine a black light on your hands to see
138
00:07:50.110 --> 00:07:54.050
what you missed or whatever. Like, but that's, That's not
139
00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:55.879
the same thing as like what I'm talking about. I'm
140
00:07:55.899 --> 00:08:00.889
talking about being pulled out of the classroom on a
141
00:08:00.930 --> 00:08:05.850
daily basis or a weekly basis and being put into
142
00:08:06.009 --> 00:08:11.089
a different going to a different building or a completely
143
00:08:11.129 --> 00:08:15.170
separate classroom with only a handful of other kids. And
144
00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:19.389
this happening all the time on a regular basis and
145
00:08:19.449 --> 00:08:22.149
not everybody was involved in it, but that's a good
146
00:08:22.230 --> 00:08:27.149
way to. Kind of, you know, hide the fact of
147
00:08:27.470 --> 00:08:30.990
what was going on is if you have very similar
148
00:08:31.170 --> 00:08:35.149
other tests that were happening that people can also get
149
00:08:35.190 --> 00:08:35.950
confused with.
150
00:08:36.049 --> 00:08:36.269
Right.
151
00:08:36.309 --> 00:08:41.190
That's how you, you know, you engulf and hide something
152
00:08:41.549 --> 00:08:45.169
underneath something else when that other thing is very similar
153
00:08:45.250 --> 00:08:49.309
to what people also remember. So then it just becomes
154
00:08:49.509 --> 00:08:50.889
super confusing for everyone.
155
00:08:51.110 --> 00:08:51.289
Right.
156
00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:54.820
So I think I might have gotten ripped off and
157
00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.460
didn't go through like the badass gate program where they
158
00:08:57.500 --> 00:09:01.980
teach you like the telekinetic warfare. But everything you just described,
159
00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:05.120
the hunter, like I actually did go through that exact
160
00:09:05.179 --> 00:09:08.259
experience where I got pulled out. I think in second
161
00:09:08.299 --> 00:09:11.919
grade and you get a, like a very generic test
162
00:09:12.139 --> 00:09:14.769
with like a non-teacher, like some kind of guidance counselor,
163
00:09:15.149 --> 00:09:19.250
psychologist person. And then after that you end up, it
164
00:09:19.289 --> 00:09:23.070
was either every day after lunch or it was like
165
00:09:23.110 --> 00:09:25.070
a certain day of the week, but it was typically
166
00:09:25.210 --> 00:09:28.759
every single day right after lunch, you would break away
167
00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:31.200
from your normal class and you'd go to a completely
168
00:09:31.299 --> 00:09:33.879
separate classroom with a bunch of other kids that got
169
00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.379
plucked out of their classrooms. And sometimes it would, vary
170
00:09:37.700 --> 00:09:40.220
um between like two or two or three different grades
171
00:09:40.259 --> 00:09:42.000
so it wasn't like all fifth graders it might have
172
00:09:42.019 --> 00:09:44.610
been like third fourth and fifth or sixth seventh and
173
00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:47.409
eighth or whatever it was going to be um and
174
00:09:47.590 --> 00:09:50.250
for the most part it was at least in my
175
00:09:50.289 --> 00:09:53.309
experience it was just a big computer lab and you
176
00:09:53.330 --> 00:09:56.470
play carmen san diego and oregon trail and dating myself
177
00:09:56.509 --> 00:09:59.809
a little bit and then a crap load of puzzles
178
00:09:59.830 --> 00:10:03.919
and And they even had this like competition that extended
179
00:10:03.980 --> 00:10:06.639
from it called Odyssey of the Mind, which is like
180
00:10:06.700 --> 00:10:09.100
a whole other thing where they do robotics and they
181
00:10:09.139 --> 00:10:13.210
do architectural engineering, but they're grading things. you on it.
182
00:10:13.649 --> 00:10:16.690
It goes down this huge different rabbit hole. Uh, but
183
00:10:16.850 --> 00:10:19.490
I never got to do the cool little psychic cards
184
00:10:19.529 --> 00:10:21.750
with the waves and the triangles and the circles and
185
00:10:21.769 --> 00:10:26.980
the squares. And, but maybe it was just like, uh, amnesia.
186
00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.299
They might've psychic drove it directly out of our brains
187
00:10:30.580 --> 00:10:34.649
or like what, at what point does that part that
188
00:10:34.750 --> 00:10:38.269
I think I'm familiar with escalate into now you're being
189
00:10:38.309 --> 00:10:39.529
weaponized by the military.
190
00:10:41.620 --> 00:10:44.340
Well, see, that's the thing is it's not just one
191
00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.899
thing that they're looking for. And that's the problem with
192
00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:48.879
a lot of this is that people want it to
193
00:10:48.940 --> 00:10:52.559
be just one thing, right? Just like in every type
194
00:10:52.679 --> 00:11:00.200
of operation or government program or psych op or some
195
00:11:00.259 --> 00:11:05.200
kind of military project that is a covert program. It's
196
00:11:05.259 --> 00:11:08.700
not just one thing. It's not just one person that's involved.
197
00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.259
That's the thing that they want to make you believe.
198
00:11:11.950 --> 00:11:14.669
Is that is just one thing. It's just one shooter, right?
199
00:11:15.029 --> 00:11:17.669
One person did this. It was just, or it was
200
00:11:17.690 --> 00:11:20.330
just this group of people over here when, when the
201
00:11:20.429 --> 00:11:25.990
operation is freaking huge and there's many different levels and
202
00:11:26.070 --> 00:11:29.600
layers and branches of the tree that go along with this,
203
00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:32.500
but it gets so deep and so convoluted and so
204
00:11:32.580 --> 00:11:38.259
crazy that people give up on looking into it because it,
205
00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:44.679
it is so complicated. And crazy. And that's where we
206
00:11:44.700 --> 00:11:49.759
get this thing of people believing that stuff is just fake, right?
207
00:11:51.139 --> 00:11:54.879
Because whenever you're talking about a military operation, paranoid American,
208
00:11:55.340 --> 00:12:00.620
you're talking about something that is so sophisticated and everything,
209
00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.080
all the loose ends have been tied up that you
210
00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.629
cannot find anything. The loose ends. That's what people don't
211
00:12:06.789 --> 00:12:10.549
understand about this is that whenever the military or the
212
00:12:10.610 --> 00:12:14.909
government is running a cover up. The whole purpose of
213
00:12:14.950 --> 00:12:16.929
the cover up is for you not to find out
214
00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:18.929
about the thing that you're trying to find out about.
215
00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:21.220
Right.
216
00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.720
If they leave something behind, then they didn't do a
217
00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:24.259
good job.
218
00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:29.320
Would it be appropriate to consider the GATE program from
219
00:12:30.019 --> 00:12:34.450
the farthest away standpoint? You know, the bird's eye view, superficial,
220
00:12:34.669 --> 00:12:39.590
exoteric interpretation, but essentially it all starts with Clicking a
221
00:12:39.649 --> 00:12:42.909
checkmark next to your name at some point. So now
222
00:12:43.409 --> 00:12:48.059
whenever there's a consideration or a round for someone needed
223
00:12:48.259 --> 00:12:50.960
or a kid to look into, there's just a quick
224
00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.490
way to filter all the gifted or challenged or gate kids.
225
00:12:54.870 --> 00:12:58.269
And then from there, it can escalate into more than
226
00:12:58.309 --> 00:12:58.950
just one thing.
227
00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.259
Yes, I believe that the original goal was for recruitment.
228
00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:10.440
And this happened around 1958 when the United States launched
229
00:13:10.539 --> 00:13:14.639
its first satellite in space called Explorer 1 on January
230
00:13:14.870 --> 00:13:18.210
of like 1958. And that was just a little while
231
00:13:18.409 --> 00:13:22.470
after Russia had launched their satellite Sputnik in space. And
232
00:13:22.509 --> 00:13:25.509
there was a lot of things happening in 1958. DARPA
233
00:13:25.620 --> 00:13:30.200
was established in 1958. NASA was established in 1958. And
234
00:13:30.220 --> 00:13:33.279
the government officially became involved with the public school system
235
00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:43.230
in 1958. So Russia beating us in space really... Freaked
236
00:13:43.309 --> 00:13:47.960
out the Eisenhower administration. And because we were really lacking
237
00:13:48.139 --> 00:13:54.059
in scientists and engineers and, you know, people that we
238
00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:59.090
can use within the government and within NASA and through
239
00:13:59.110 --> 00:14:04.210
that organizations and in the military. So they started this
240
00:14:04.330 --> 00:14:08.509
gifted and talented education where they would pull children that
241
00:14:09.070 --> 00:14:12.850
were deemed gifted and talented out of the classroom. And
242
00:14:13.009 --> 00:14:18.210
these people would serve as recruitment for the government. So
243
00:14:18.230 --> 00:14:21.549
they would essentially be, and this is proven, this is
244
00:14:21.549 --> 00:14:28.090
100% real. We show the documents in the movie, Psychic Agent,
245
00:14:28.509 --> 00:14:31.480
the gay program. And in the 70s, the early 70s,
246
00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:36.080
parents were getting really upset because they would go to
247
00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:37.639
the school, they would go to the public school and
248
00:14:37.659 --> 00:14:39.919
be like, hey, can I get my child's school records?
249
00:14:40.539 --> 00:14:43.629
And the public school would not give them their child's
250
00:14:43.649 --> 00:14:46.149
school records. And then they found out that the reason
251
00:14:46.190 --> 00:14:48.549
that they didn't give the parents their child's school records
252
00:14:48.570 --> 00:14:51.539
is because the CIA had all their child's school records.
253
00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:57.100
So then they tried to put in this law called FERPA,
254
00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:00.240
which is the Family Rights and Privacy Act, which would
255
00:15:00.379 --> 00:15:04.330
give parents the right to get access to their child's
256
00:15:04.370 --> 00:15:07.970
school records against But the CIA put an amendment into
257
00:15:08.009 --> 00:15:11.769
FERPA that still gave them access to their child's school records.
258
00:15:11.789 --> 00:15:16.080
So even though the parents finally got back access to
259
00:15:16.100 --> 00:15:20.179
the child's school records, the government and the military and
260
00:15:20.820 --> 00:15:26.580
CIA still had access to them. So the CIA, the
261
00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:30.740
government has a file on every single child that has
262
00:15:30.779 --> 00:15:36.200
gone through public school. from preschool literally to your career.
263
00:15:36.980 --> 00:15:39.559
So when the teacher would be like, this is going
264
00:15:39.580 --> 00:15:41.899
to go on your permanent record and you're in fourth grade,
265
00:15:42.379 --> 00:15:44.419
there might actually be a little bit of truth to that.
266
00:15:44.419 --> 00:15:45.700
100%.
267
00:15:45.700 --> 00:15:50.669
It was all stored in one giant database and they
268
00:15:50.789 --> 00:15:54.769
have access to all of that. It's very real and
269
00:15:54.809 --> 00:15:58.129
it's been happening ever since. as far back as the
270
00:15:58.220 --> 00:16:02.039
early 60s with MGM, Mentally Gifted Minors in California, which
271
00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.340
Walter Bosley was a part of. And a lot of
272
00:16:04.379 --> 00:16:09.919
these places are directly beside or in the vicinity of
273
00:16:10.029 --> 00:16:12.710
or close by to an Air Force base or some
274
00:16:12.830 --> 00:16:16.269
sort of military base is in the vicinity of a
275
00:16:16.309 --> 00:16:22.559
lot of the main schools. like not all of them.
276
00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.799
I can't say all of them because a lot of
277
00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.240
different schools have gate programs and not every school is
278
00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.240
beside a military base, but I'm talking about some of
279
00:16:29.259 --> 00:16:33.440
the main ones are like really close or in proximity
280
00:16:33.500 --> 00:16:37.519
or in the vicinity of some form of military base,
281
00:16:37.570 --> 00:16:40.990
such as MGM and a few of the ones in
282
00:16:41.070 --> 00:16:44.809
Georgia and a few of the ones in, in Florida
283
00:16:45.789 --> 00:16:50.320
as well. And so we're, when you think of all
284
00:16:50.340 --> 00:16:53.220
the people that has been through these programs has been,
285
00:16:54.700 --> 00:16:57.080
you know, millions of kids, millions of kids have been
286
00:16:57.580 --> 00:17:03.049
in some form of, you know, gifted and talented education.
287
00:17:03.110 --> 00:17:05.950
And I guess back to my, my point of what
288
00:17:05.970 --> 00:17:11.960
this is really about is it's, it's not only about like,
289
00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:16.349
finding out if people could possibly be psychic, but it's
290
00:17:16.380 --> 00:17:22.670
also about recruitment and not only recruitment into the military
291
00:17:22.789 --> 00:17:28.369
or into three-letter organizations, but even more covert than that,
292
00:17:29.150 --> 00:17:37.759
like positions of power, CEOs of corporations, writers for the
293
00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:43.720
New York Post, the next Greta Thunberg, the next LeBron James,
294
00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:49.160
promoting Black Lives Matter. It's anything that when you think that, oh, well,
295
00:17:49.259 --> 00:17:52.140
I couldn't be used for, they got an agenda for you.
296
00:17:53.740 --> 00:17:56.670
And they can program you at a very young age
297
00:17:57.210 --> 00:18:01.589
by getting inside of your mind, by giving you a drug,
298
00:18:01.809 --> 00:18:04.849
which is that pink drink or the orange drink or
299
00:18:04.950 --> 00:18:07.549
whatever drink it was that you remember that some people
300
00:18:07.589 --> 00:18:12.059
say was just fluoride, but Looking at Dr. Ewan Cameron
301
00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.960
in Canada, which we bring out in the documentary A
302
00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.200
Clockwork Shining and what he was doing in psychically driving people.
303
00:18:18.339 --> 00:18:20.759
If you match that up and what Ewan Cameron was
304
00:18:20.819 --> 00:18:25.289
doing at Ravenscrag is the exact same thing that people
305
00:18:25.329 --> 00:18:27.569
have been saying has been happening to them in the
306
00:18:27.630 --> 00:18:31.970
GATE program classes. Essentially the exact same thing.
307
00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:34.700
I want to get an idea from you for, like,
308
00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.849
the checklist of the red flags of kind of like
309
00:18:37.869 --> 00:18:41.869
the Jeff Foxworthy, you might have been in a telekinetic
310
00:18:41.970 --> 00:18:46.019
gate program if, and not just normal gifted or challenge.
311
00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:48.680
And one of those was... the pink drink or the
312
00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.700
orange drink, which they also give out in the milk.
313
00:18:50.740 --> 00:18:53.640
There's the whole conspiracy theory about going through bootcamp and
314
00:18:53.660 --> 00:18:55.910
getting a similar one of those. But then there's also
315
00:18:56.009 --> 00:18:58.250
one that came up recently. I was talking to, uh,
316
00:18:59.190 --> 00:19:03.829
Abby on secret society, good guys. And she mentioned these
317
00:19:04.329 --> 00:19:07.240
telepathic tapes that were like these tapes that you would
318
00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.079
listen to. And it would be an Emily Miller Moyer,
319
00:19:11.099 --> 00:19:13.319
I think also had some of these, It was like
320
00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.859
in a brown case and they would play it and
321
00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.619
it was sort of get you into like an alternate state.
322
00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:20.980
And you were supposed to be going, you know, doing
323
00:19:21.019 --> 00:19:25.960
mantras or meditating. But that apparently the pink drink, the
324
00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:29.619
orange drink, whatever drink it is, and these telepathic tapes
325
00:19:30.289 --> 00:19:33.890
and like a whole kind of other checklist of like
326
00:19:33.930 --> 00:19:36.750
very specific things. Like, are there any that top of
327
00:19:36.769 --> 00:19:39.990
your list that would stand out as being like, oh,
328
00:19:40.009 --> 00:19:42.269
you might have actually gone through something deeper than just
329
00:19:42.289 --> 00:19:42.829
the gate program?
330
00:19:44.750 --> 00:19:46.380
That's a really good thing that you just brought up
331
00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.950
because within the movie, I talked to Katie page and,
332
00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.079
she was involved in this program called the twilight learner
333
00:19:54.099 --> 00:19:57.720
program by this guy named Thomas H. Badinsky that worked
334
00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:58.900
at area 51.
335
00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:01.240
He was a navigational engineer for.
336
00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:08.140
For the SR 71 Blackbird out of area 51. And
337
00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.240
I'd go and interview her and she has the original
338
00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.720
tapes from that program in the Brown thing that you
339
00:20:14.740 --> 00:20:18.660
just mentioned. The original Twilight learner cassette tapes.
340
00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.940
You can still get them on eBay every once in
341
00:20:21.980 --> 00:20:24.829
a while for not that much. I highly recommend everyone
342
00:20:24.849 --> 00:20:27.650
go out there and, and scoop one. Cause it feels
343
00:20:27.750 --> 00:20:31.410
like the more attention this particular topic gets, the more
344
00:20:31.430 --> 00:20:32.730
of those might get memory hold.
345
00:20:34.339 --> 00:20:37.880
Exactly. And I don't feel like very many people were
346
00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.920
a part of that program. Katie Page said that she
347
00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:44.140
was the only one that she knew that was ever
348
00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.900
in that program. And every time that she went to
349
00:20:47.099 --> 00:20:50.259
Thomas H. Bedinsky's office next to the Denver Tech Center,
350
00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:52.970
she was the only one that was ever in there.
351
00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:57.589
She never saw anybody else that was coming in, leaving
352
00:20:57.769 --> 00:21:00.490
before she got there or coming in after she left.
353
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:06.319
So it was a very niche and rare thing. And
354
00:21:06.859 --> 00:21:09.059
to me, it seems like what they were doing is
355
00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:14.809
a form of self-hypnosis. They want to hypnotize you in
356
00:21:14.890 --> 00:21:20.269
order for you to activate your psychic abilities or possibly
357
00:21:20.369 --> 00:21:27.240
get outside of your body. Monroe Institute Gateway Experience was
358
00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:33.089
like a precursor to The, uh, uh, the twilight learner tapes,
359
00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:36.289
they kind of went hand in hand in, in Thomas H. Badinski.
360
00:21:36.390 --> 00:21:41.940
There is a connection there between the miniature foundation and the, uh, uh,
361
00:21:41.990 --> 00:21:45.480
gateway experience with Robert Monroe. They were all kind of
362
00:21:45.700 --> 00:21:51.039
working in the same type of circle there. And, uh,
363
00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.500
I believe that what that was for, because we showed
364
00:21:54.519 --> 00:22:01.589
the CIA gateway document in the movie. and basically the
365
00:22:01.630 --> 00:22:06.990
purpose of the gateway tapes were to induce an out-of-body experience,
366
00:22:07.730 --> 00:22:12.609
and to induce an out-of-body experience is important in order
367
00:22:12.670 --> 00:22:16.450
to activate your psychic abilities. Now, people can be psychic
368
00:22:17.289 --> 00:22:22.119
without going through an out-of-body experience, but it's kind of
369
00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:30.480
implied that you're a better psychic if you have been
370
00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.329
outside of your body. And that's not like a confirmed
371
00:22:34.369 --> 00:22:38.569
thing or scientifically proven or whatever, but it's kind of
372
00:22:38.650 --> 00:22:44.690
implied that you can become more accurate at psychic abilities
373
00:22:44.869 --> 00:22:46.910
if you are able to get outside of your body.
374
00:22:46.950 --> 00:22:51.089
And Angela Ford, which was a real Stargate remote viewer
375
00:22:51.130 --> 00:22:54.799
that found hostages in Lebanon just using her mind, And
376
00:22:54.819 --> 00:22:56.759
she was given an award for that. And she also
377
00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:02.759
found a runaway customs agent in Wyoming just using her mind.
378
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:08.099
And the BBC actually came and did a reenactment of
379
00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:10.779
that entire case. I couldn't find it. It was very difficult.
380
00:23:10.900 --> 00:23:13.279
I actually tried to get a hold of Warner Brothers
381
00:23:13.299 --> 00:23:15.680
because I thought maybe Warner Brothers would have had that
382
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:20.359
archival footage. But it happened in like 1995. And no
383
00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:23.740
one can find that footage. But I tried to find
384
00:23:23.779 --> 00:23:25.039
it to be able to put it in the movie.
385
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.200
But they did do a reenactment of it, of her
386
00:23:28.779 --> 00:23:35.950
remote viewing and finding Charles Ford in Wyoming. So I
387
00:23:35.990 --> 00:23:41.210
believe that people are like everyone has the ability to
388
00:23:41.269 --> 00:23:45.569
do it. But according to the documents, I show a document.
389
00:23:45.589 --> 00:23:47.549
I'm not actually sure if I put it in the movie.
390
00:23:47.569 --> 00:23:49.339
I might not have. It might have been on the
391
00:23:49.380 --> 00:23:55.339
cutting room floor. But it shows that according to the DIA,
392
00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:04.359
in 1993, they had come to the conclusion that everyone
393
00:24:04.420 --> 00:24:10.319
is psychic, but only 1% of the population is. is
394
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:16.539
accurate or can be accurate, remote viewers, and get information
395
00:24:16.579 --> 00:24:21.109
that is accurate. So in 1993, that was their statistic
396
00:24:21.150 --> 00:24:24.230
based off of the research that they had done, is that, yes,
397
00:24:24.349 --> 00:24:32.210
everyone has the ability to be psychic, but not everyone
398
00:24:32.329 --> 00:24:36.559
is accurate, and only 1% of the population is accurate.
399
00:24:38.269 --> 00:24:40.630
Small tangent here, and I'm actually really glad that you
400
00:24:40.710 --> 00:24:44.730
just cited a few practical examples where someone was able
401
00:24:44.829 --> 00:24:49.650
to utilize this psychic ability on multiple occasions, received awards,
402
00:24:50.069 --> 00:24:54.160
had a whole BBC reenactment, right? I'm curious, are you
403
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.660
familiar with James Randi and the Randi Challenge?
404
00:24:58.660 --> 00:25:00.480
No, I'm not, but that kind of sounds familiar.
405
00:25:01.309 --> 00:25:04.069
I think he died maybe 10 years ago or something,
406
00:25:04.089 --> 00:25:08.289
but James Randi is the guy that debunked Peter Popoff
407
00:25:08.349 --> 00:25:12.960
and Popoff Industries in the 1970s, this televangelist that did, like,
408
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:16.619
miracle healing, and he tapped into the radio frequency and
409
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:21.460
was able to prove on, like, nighttime talk shows that, hey,
410
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.569
this guy says he's talking to God and he's getting
411
00:25:23.589 --> 00:25:27.329
all this information. Anyways, he got somewhat famous for that.
412
00:25:27.369 --> 00:25:29.569
He was a stage magician. He kind of turned into, like,
413
00:25:29.609 --> 00:25:33.880
a Harry Houdini– spiritual disprover guy right like he was
414
00:25:33.900 --> 00:25:37.420
a spiritual debunker and he did this thing called the
415
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.079
randy challenge and the randy challenge i think it started
416
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.779
as like get a million dollars if you can prove
417
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:49.339
in a isolated scientifically hermetically sealed environment with multiple controls
418
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.420
and all of that you know go into like a
419
00:25:51.609 --> 00:25:57.069
sterile environment improve remote viewing or astral projection or telekinesis
420
00:25:57.190 --> 00:26:00.910
or telepathy or any of these things and a Some
421
00:26:00.930 --> 00:26:03.670
of the criticism was that he just made everything so
422
00:26:03.779 --> 00:26:05.660
stringent that there was a million ways for him to
423
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.200
be like, ah, aha, you didn't do it right. But
424
00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:11.859
I'm just curious... Do you think that because there's other
425
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.930
institutions out there that are set to basically debunk all
426
00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:19.269
of this? Is that just controlled opposition? Like is the
427
00:26:19.329 --> 00:26:24.970
government knows simultaneously that telepathy is real, but they also
428
00:26:25.109 --> 00:26:29.150
endorse all sorts of debunking campaigns to just money the waters?
429
00:26:29.710 --> 00:26:33.079
Or do you think there's actually like different factions that
430
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.299
truly believe in it being real and not being real?
431
00:26:39.470 --> 00:26:43.660
Well, they had been studying it since they've been giving
432
00:26:43.740 --> 00:26:48.500
money to foundations and colleges since the 30s to study
433
00:26:48.539 --> 00:26:54.650
psychic abilities and ESP abilities. So it's like, And then
434
00:26:54.690 --> 00:26:59.589
they had a unit, a remote viewing unit, which was
435
00:26:59.670 --> 00:27:05.049
to use people's psychic abilities to get intelligence data on
436
00:27:05.130 --> 00:27:07.210
foreign targets during the Cold War. And that started in
437
00:27:07.210 --> 00:27:08.839
1978 and lasted until 1995. So if they didn't believe it,
438
00:27:08.910 --> 00:27:10.099
if they didn't think that it worked, then.
439
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.220
Why did they fund it and study it and have
440
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:30.490
a unit since 1978 until 1995? Does it fall into
441
00:27:30.670 --> 00:27:36.789
Camp Hero and Montauk where the Delta T chair that
442
00:27:36.829 --> 00:27:38.950
they would basically find someone?
443
00:27:38.970 --> 00:27:41.609
This is Stranger Things, basically, right? That one of these
444
00:27:41.710 --> 00:27:44.950
kids from one of these gate programs that had a strong...
445
00:27:45.289 --> 00:27:48.230
skill and astral projection and remote viewing could go to
446
00:27:48.269 --> 00:27:53.779
this military compound, Camp Hero, and sort of turn that up,
447
00:27:53.900 --> 00:27:55.640
add an amplifier into the mix.
448
00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:02.460
Yeah, the Montauk Project is a, I believe, was a
449
00:28:02.539 --> 00:28:06.200
creation by a man named Preston Nichols. I don't think
450
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.319
that there was really anything to that story other than
451
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:16.109
possibly some weird hybrid animal stuff that the military might
452
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:21.390
have been doing around Montauk, trying to create chimeras, you know,
453
00:28:21.509 --> 00:28:22.630
animal-human hybrids.
454
00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:23.930
They were chasing Plum Island, yeah.
455
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.099
Yeah, or something like that. But I feel like that
456
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:37.559
the Montauk stuff is a brainchild of Preston Nichols that
457
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.460
took a lot of that from a movie called The
458
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.539
Philadelphia Experiment and then mixed it in with a bunch
459
00:28:44.619 --> 00:28:51.960
of things that he just completely made up. Now, were
460
00:28:52.019 --> 00:28:56.710
weird experimentations going on there? Possibly. Possibly there were some
461
00:28:57.069 --> 00:28:59.109
weird stuff. I mean, the military has been known to
462
00:28:59.170 --> 00:29:00.829
do weird things for a really long time. And then
463
00:29:00.849 --> 00:29:05.230
there's another project that we actually bring up within the movie,
464
00:29:05.809 --> 00:29:08.640
Psychic Agent, The Gate Program, that I do believe that
465
00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.140
was 100% real because there actually is proof behind it
466
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.880
and photos exist of this place. And it's called the
467
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.140
Indian Lake Project. Are you familiar with the Indian Lake Project?
468
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:19.190
No, this is new to me.
469
00:29:21.700 --> 00:29:24.980
So it's basically this guy in the early 2000s, his
470
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.160
uncle died and his uncle found this metal box out
471
00:29:28.220 --> 00:29:32.230
in the woods of around Indian Lake, New York. It
472
00:29:32.269 --> 00:29:34.670
was this old metal box that his uncle found in
473
00:29:34.710 --> 00:29:38.789
like 1995 and his uncle passed away in the late
474
00:29:39.230 --> 00:29:39.980
90s into the early 2000s.
475
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:40.480
2000s.
476
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.500
I'm not 100% sure on the dates because I don't
477
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.400
have the notes. I got to remember so much stuff
478
00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:46.579
in my head. So forgive me if I mess up
479
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.960
some dates or whatever, but it's around that area. And
480
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:55.200
his uncle passed away and then the box was given
481
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.200
to him. this gentleman named John S. And he started
482
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:03.220
this blog post in the early 2000s. Some of it
483
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.339
is still up online that you can find, but it's
484
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.049
called the Indian Lake Project. And within this box, this
485
00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:14.549
metal box that his uncle found, had pictures of children,
486
00:30:15.690 --> 00:30:21.670
children behind bars, children being made to take some kind
487
00:30:21.690 --> 00:30:27.319
of substance, children with headphones on, playing with blocks, And
488
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.279
according to the documentation that was inside of the box
489
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.740
was that this was a military project in Indian Lake,
490
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.359
New York in the early to mid 40s. There was
491
00:30:40.420 --> 00:30:44.769
also film reels inside of the box. He was able
492
00:30:44.849 --> 00:30:49.769
to get some of the film reels out and get
493
00:30:49.789 --> 00:30:52.190
some still images of the film reels, but he was
494
00:30:52.250 --> 00:30:57.930
never able to release what exactly was on the film reels,
495
00:30:58.029 --> 00:31:01.769
but he apparently had found this underground facility.
496
00:31:01.150 --> 00:31:06.559
Around the area that he had gotten into, and he
497
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.619
took pictures of this underground facility, and he apparently matched
498
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.180
some of the photos from the box, and he claimed
499
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.119
that this was where the children were kept in this
500
00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:21.650
underground facility for this program that was above ground called
501
00:31:21.670 --> 00:31:22.769
the Indian Lake Project.
502
00:31:23.579 --> 00:31:25.200
And then he just mysteriously stopped posting.
503
00:31:27.430 --> 00:31:29.950
Are we talking deep underground military bases when you say
504
00:31:29.970 --> 00:31:33.789
like this underground facility or like, is this military adjacent?
505
00:31:35.750 --> 00:31:39.940
Well, there's kids with military personnel. There's kids with pictured
506
00:31:40.019 --> 00:31:48.019
with military people in military uniform. I thought at this facility, is.
507
00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:51.589
This something that, Would be one more reason to not
508
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.829
send your kid to public school. Cause we were talking
509
00:31:54.890 --> 00:31:57.069
earlier and I was like, were you in the gate program?
510
00:31:57.089 --> 00:31:58.950
And you said, well, I went to private school. Like
511
00:31:59.369 --> 00:32:02.930
if you're homeschooled or if you're in private school, are
512
00:32:02.970 --> 00:32:04.990
you immune to the gate program? Or do you think
513
00:32:05.029 --> 00:32:08.180
there's still a way that you can somehow find your
514
00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:11.180
way into it? I don't know.
515
00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:14.119
I actually had someone reach out to me and said
516
00:32:14.140 --> 00:32:16.660
that they were in the gate program and they were homeschooled.
517
00:32:18.670 --> 00:32:22.170
How does that, I don't know. Listening now that is
518
00:32:22.230 --> 00:32:25.470
homeschooling their children. Is there a way that you can
519
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.420
officially register your kid into the gate program? Just in
520
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.299
case if, can you like contact the CIA and be like, Hey,
521
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.559
my kid's actually like legit smart and might be able
522
00:32:34.579 --> 00:32:35.680
to help you guys out.
523
00:32:35.740 --> 00:32:35.960
Yeah.
524
00:32:38.059 --> 00:32:40.960
Well, the way that she explained it was that someone
525
00:32:40.980 --> 00:32:45.269
had gotten in contact with her mom that it was
526
00:32:45.309 --> 00:32:47.609
like once or twice a week or three days a week.
527
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.980
her and a bunch of other kids would get together
528
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.250
and then they would meet at like a, like a
529
00:32:57.309 --> 00:33:01.700
private place. And then they would all do like classwork together.
530
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.240
So it was like a, I'll have to go back
531
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.500
and read through that, what she said again. I think
532
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.339
that was in an email or maybe it was a
533
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.880
comment on one of my videos, but I have to
534
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.420
go back and reread that. It was like right when
535
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.980
the movie came out. So, and I've gotten so many
536
00:33:17.069 --> 00:33:19.029
emails and so many people reaching out to me that
537
00:33:19.049 --> 00:33:22.329
I might be mixing up some of it, but I'm
538
00:33:22.329 --> 00:33:26.470
99% sure that someone told me that they were in
539
00:33:26.970 --> 00:33:28.470
the gay program and they were homeschooled.
540
00:33:29.690 --> 00:33:32.190
Well, for most of the people that homeschool, I think
541
00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:35.930
you still have to do some form of standardized testing.
542
00:33:35.950 --> 00:33:38.670
You're not allowed to just... like write a letter back
543
00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:41.049
to the government and be like, yep, my kid's acing everything.
544
00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:43.029
Don't worry about us. Like you actually have to go
545
00:33:43.049 --> 00:33:46.390
to some sort of third party, um, you know, facility
546
00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:48.430
and they do a test there to make sure that
547
00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:52.200
you're actually doing what the homeschooling is supposed to be doing.
548
00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:55.460
And that, I'm just saying that would be that touch
549
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.539
point for the state to be able to figure out, Hey,
550
00:33:59.619 --> 00:34:02.500
you know, this, this kid, we like the cut of
551
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:05.119
this kid's a jib. Like let's go ahead and enroll him.
552
00:34:07.420 --> 00:34:11.360
Yeah, and a lot of times homeschooled people are quite
553
00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:14.320
smart individuals. So, I mean, it's not out of the
554
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.659
realm of possibility. I'm just not 100% sure exactly how
555
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.880
that would work. I'd have to go back and read
556
00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:23.530
that comment and what that individual told me again. But
557
00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:28.489
there are real gate program schools. I mean, there's entire
558
00:34:28.550 --> 00:34:32.869
gate program schools that are in operation to this very day.
559
00:34:32.909 --> 00:34:36.050
Charlie Kirk was in a gate program school in Palatine, Illinois.
560
00:34:38.019 --> 00:34:42.190
Excuse me, called Creative Children's Academy. And it was renamed
561
00:34:42.250 --> 00:34:47.769
Quest Academy in 1999. And this is a really interesting
562
00:34:47.849 --> 00:34:50.730
one because this is an entire school that's just dedicated
563
00:34:50.789 --> 00:34:52.710
to gifted and talented children. You can look it up.
564
00:34:52.730 --> 00:34:56.380
Just Google in Quest Academy and read through the website.
565
00:34:56.539 --> 00:35:02.000
Quest Academy in Illinois, Valentine, Illinois. And it's a literal
566
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:06.039
gifted and talented school dedicated to students that have been
567
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.659
deemed gifted and talented. still in operation. And there are
568
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.309
several schools like this in, uh, across the United States.
569
00:35:16.090 --> 00:35:19.809
Then you can also wrap in the, uh, teen behavioral
570
00:35:20.010 --> 00:35:26.269
modification stuff. You know about that? The, uh, cons cults
571
00:35:26.309 --> 00:35:29.690
and kidnapping documentary that was on Netflix. It was all
572
00:35:29.730 --> 00:35:32.730
about the teen behavioral health modification schools where they were
573
00:35:32.789 --> 00:35:37.719
essentially brainwashing and mind controlling, uh, that were sent to
574
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.940
these schools that were deemed to be unruly?
575
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.139
There's a number of those. A lot of those, too,
576
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.820
would be in Jamaica or just outside the U.S. so
577
00:35:49.860 --> 00:35:54.000
that they could operate under slightly different rules. And yeah,
578
00:35:54.019 --> 00:35:57.190
a lot of those are corrective schools. And I guess...
579
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.210
that seems like just one other option to get into
580
00:36:01.230 --> 00:36:04.170
the gate program, although maybe like through the back door.
581
00:36:04.190 --> 00:36:08.730
Because now, just because you need some course correction, a
582
00:36:09.710 --> 00:36:14.429
lot of troublemakers also probably have high IQs, I guess.
583
00:36:15.190 --> 00:36:19.250
Are we talking IQ tests here, or does your psychic
584
00:36:19.349 --> 00:36:25.369
slash telepathic ability... exist completely independent of that? Are there
585
00:36:25.429 --> 00:36:28.670
dumbasses out there that are really great at telepathy and
586
00:36:28.690 --> 00:36:29.250
vice versa?
587
00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:33.829
Well, I mean, just because you're a good psychic doesn't
588
00:36:33.849 --> 00:36:36.289
mean that you're book smart. And just because you're book
589
00:36:36.309 --> 00:36:39.170
smart doesn't mean that you're street smart. You know, I
590
00:36:39.210 --> 00:36:43.309
don't think one goes with the other one. You know,
591
00:36:43.389 --> 00:36:46.630
you can be people can be smart in many different
592
00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:50.840
types of ways. And the really rare ones are the
593
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.179
ones that are smart and educated and have a high
594
00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:59.449
IQ and everything it is that they do. And those
595
00:36:59.510 --> 00:37:01.570
are the main people that they would want to be
596
00:37:01.670 --> 00:37:06.639
looking for recruitment, right? I mean, what did you do
597
00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:10.760
after you left public school? I mean, you went into, Anna,
598
00:37:10.820 --> 00:37:12.019
you worked for Disney, right?
599
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.849
Well, I went directly into the military first, and then
600
00:37:15.869 --> 00:37:17.949
I went to Disney after the military.
601
00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:21.690
Okay.
602
00:37:22.869 --> 00:37:26.650
I was on like a special fast track program where
603
00:37:27.050 --> 00:37:33.070
technically I was in the military in training at 17.
604
00:37:33.070 --> 00:37:36.420
Like I didn't even wait until I was 18. So
605
00:37:36.460 --> 00:37:39.019
am I, am I a candidate more so than I realized?
606
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.659
I think so. And I think that a lot of
607
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:44.860
people are candidates and they don't realize because that's the
608
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:50.269
entire goal behind the program. If, everyone were to know
609
00:37:50.389 --> 00:37:54.760
that they were programmed to do this thing later in life,
610
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.280
then they would come out and be like, Oh yeah,
611
00:37:58.300 --> 00:38:01.719
this is my entire life has been handled. I've been
612
00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:04.920
pushed in this direction to do this by a small
613
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.260
group of people or another individual.
614
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:09.099
Right.
615
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:11.440
But the people that are successful aren't going to care
616
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.480
because the people that are successful don't care about any
617
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:15.880
of that because they're successful.
618
00:38:15.900 --> 00:38:16.039
Right.
619
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:18.500
They don't care what they went through or any of
620
00:38:18.539 --> 00:38:20.820
the traumas that they might have went through or what
621
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.820
happened to them in public school or any of that,
622
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.260
because they have the money that they need. They have
623
00:38:25.449 --> 00:38:27.469
everything that they want. So it doesn't matter to them.
624
00:38:28.190 --> 00:38:32.289
But the ones that didn't, they start to kind of
625
00:38:32.329 --> 00:38:36.369
remember what happened. And I think that the teen behavioral
626
00:38:36.409 --> 00:38:40.230
modification schools are kind of lumped in with that because
627
00:38:40.250 --> 00:38:42.710
the people that didn't get through the program, like the
628
00:38:42.789 --> 00:38:44.590
unruly ones. And I believe that this was what was
629
00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:49.639
happening with Charlie Kirk during the end. Of his life.
630
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:54.079
100% believe. That he was. Starting to break the programming.
631
00:38:54.260 --> 00:38:55.099
And realizing.
632
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:56.480
That.
633
00:38:58.059 --> 00:39:03.559
All the things that made him successful. Was given to him.
634
00:39:05.260 --> 00:39:08.780
By a certain group of people. Not that he wasn't talented.
635
00:39:08.820 --> 00:39:11.590
He was a very talented individual. And he could debate people.
636
00:39:11.619 --> 00:39:13.630
But you have to have the talent. In order to have.
637
00:39:14.489 --> 00:39:18.269
All these doors open for you. So I believe that
638
00:39:18.349 --> 00:39:23.400
he was realizing in the end that his entire life
639
00:39:23.500 --> 00:39:30.630
was set up for him. His multi-million dollar corporation. his
640
00:39:30.690 --> 00:39:35.980
multi-million dollar non-profit corporation, all of the doors were open
641
00:39:36.579 --> 00:39:38.139
for him to get that.
642
00:39:40.289 --> 00:39:43.530
Isn't that the same for anybody that's able to succeed?
643
00:39:44.409 --> 00:39:47.929
If the door wasn't opened by some sort of like
644
00:39:47.989 --> 00:39:52.159
nepotism through your family had money or power influence, then
645
00:39:52.739 --> 00:39:57.840
if you go through college or work or whatever, usually
646
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.400
the doors being open for you are from other people.
647
00:40:00.460 --> 00:40:03.530
And then you are essentially being exploited or at least
648
00:40:03.710 --> 00:40:07.030
are advantageous to them at that moment, which is why
649
00:40:07.070 --> 00:40:08.429
they open that door and keep the door open.
650
00:40:09.340 --> 00:40:11.619
Well, think about how many singers there are that are
651
00:40:11.619 --> 00:40:14.119
10 times, 100 times better than any of the current
652
00:40:14.369 --> 00:40:16.849
musicians out there right now. And they never make it.
653
00:40:16.849 --> 00:40:19.969
I mean, how many Elvis's, how many people were just
654
00:40:20.050 --> 00:40:24.059
as good as Elvis or even better than Elvis?
655
00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:27.760
Don't you dare. Don't you dare speak any more ill
656
00:40:27.780 --> 00:40:31.860
about Elvis, sir. Writer. But you get what I mean?
657
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.690
And same with the Beatles, right? The Beatles were not
658
00:40:35.789 --> 00:40:37.309
that great of a musician.
659
00:40:37.429 --> 00:40:39.289
All day long. Let's crash on the Beatles.
660
00:40:40.769 --> 00:40:45.030
You know, so it's like, you know, why are they
661
00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:49.559
opened for certain people and then they're completely closed for
662
00:40:49.619 --> 00:40:55.280
other people? And I would say that... It has been
663
00:40:55.340 --> 00:41:00.210
ordained from a very young age that this person will
664
00:41:00.929 --> 00:41:04.769
become this thing. And there are people that do slip
665
00:41:04.789 --> 00:41:08.309
through the cracks, of course, not everybody. is like that.
666
00:41:09.230 --> 00:41:12.699
But I would say for the most part, and they
667
00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:15.460
know that they can trust that because that person will
668
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.960
play ball, right? It's kind of like with, you know, the,
669
00:41:19.860 --> 00:41:22.699
during the sixties and seventies, all the bands and all
670
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:28.630
of their family members being part of some sort of military,
671
00:41:29.510 --> 00:41:33.050
their dads and her close relative was in high ranking
672
00:41:33.090 --> 00:41:36.960
military officer. A lot of them, almost all of them
673
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.679
out of the 60s and into the 70s, had some
674
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.400
sort of close relative that was high up in the military.
675
00:41:43.460 --> 00:41:47.260
So it seems like this is just another version of
676
00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:49.940
that in just a different way. But this just doesn't
677
00:41:49.980 --> 00:41:56.230
have to be military or three-letter organizations or things like that.
678
00:41:56.269 --> 00:41:59.550
It could be just things that you would never even
679
00:41:59.590 --> 00:42:03.630
think of. They could literally just plant and put an
680
00:42:03.929 --> 00:42:09.570
asset in... anywhere it could be the post office worker
681
00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:12.510
could be the freaking dmv worker you never freaking know
682
00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:15.389
it could be your next door neighbor who knows.
683
00:42:16.409 --> 00:42:20.719
But if if that's the scenario who is the they
684
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.900
in that case right if you're if we're saying it's
685
00:42:22.940 --> 00:42:26.039
not cia military they might be putting someone in the
686
00:42:26.059 --> 00:42:29.519
post they who or is are we talking like illuminati
687
00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:32.920
are we talking vril are we talking you know just
688
00:42:32.980 --> 00:42:34.260
the state in general.
689
00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:39.519
In this case, I would say the, uh, the, just the,
690
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:46.639
the state, uh, as it is a covert, um, black
691
00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:54.070
budget intelligence agency or a black budget military. I mean,
692
00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:57.179
we know that those exist. The Danny Castellaro case, uh,
693
00:42:58.349 --> 00:43:00.829
He found out that the CIA, that there was this
694
00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:03.250
black budget version of the CIA that was going to
695
00:43:03.289 --> 00:43:06.030
a bunch of Native American reservations. And that's how they
696
00:43:06.050 --> 00:43:07.949
started the whole gambling thing. And that's how they would
697
00:43:07.989 --> 00:43:12.380
launder their money and launder their weapons and sell their
698
00:43:12.420 --> 00:43:17.619
weapons and do prostitution and human trafficking through these Native
699
00:43:17.659 --> 00:43:22.719
American reservations because they weren't technically on government. So they
700
00:43:22.739 --> 00:43:26.019
couldn't be prosecuted for doing this type of business on
701
00:43:26.099 --> 00:43:29.500
Native American land. And then he was killed. He was
702
00:43:29.539 --> 00:43:34.039
found in a hotel room in West Virginia.
703
00:43:34.059 --> 00:43:37.280
So 100%, there are.
704
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:42.639
Three-letter organizations and militaries that we have no idea what
705
00:43:42.820 --> 00:43:46.039
or who they are. There are acronyms and three letters
706
00:43:46.099 --> 00:43:49.530
that we could probably find out about, but we just
707
00:43:49.570 --> 00:43:52.449
don't know about because we don't know what they're called.
708
00:43:52.969 --> 00:43:55.750
One of them is actually called the Missile Intelligence Agency.
709
00:43:57.340 --> 00:44:00.699
If you were to look up the Missile Intelligence Agency
710
00:44:00.780 --> 00:44:05.090
and what the Missile Intelligence Agency does, you'll see all
711
00:44:05.130 --> 00:44:14.210
the Missile Intelligence Agency is for defensive missiles and weapons combat.
712
00:44:14.369 --> 00:44:19.409
And they are the creators and developers of directed energy weapons.
713
00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:23.150
Which aren't real.
714
00:44:25.690 --> 00:44:28.679
That's what it says, dude. Look up missile intelligence. What
715
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:35.079
does the Missile Intelligence Agency do on Google?
716
00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:39.000
So the answer being that they might just be some
717
00:44:39.179 --> 00:44:43.119
other unknown acronym, but essentially it boils down to the
718
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.019
state at a certain level, right?
719
00:44:46.059 --> 00:44:48.039
Yes, I would agree with that. Yes, they would have
720
00:44:48.059 --> 00:44:48.500
to be aware.
721
00:44:49.579 --> 00:44:51.920
And in your opinion, from all the research you've done
722
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:55.139
so far in the GATE program, is this... I'm sure
723
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:57.610
there's a mix, so it's not just one or the other,
724
00:44:57.670 --> 00:45:00.449
like a binary, but for the most part, is it...
725
00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:05.130
Is it the state or the gate program is identifying
726
00:45:05.190 --> 00:45:09.030
people that already have such a latent ability? Or is
727
00:45:09.090 --> 00:45:12.250
it that the gate program is training people like they
728
00:45:12.289 --> 00:45:13.989
might see the spark in you and then they're the
729
00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:17.719
ones that are actually helping you develop it? Or is
730
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.519
that giving them too much credit? And they're really just
731
00:45:20.579 --> 00:45:23.880
kind of scouts like, you know, finding a baseball player
732
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.539
in South America and then draft them into the major
733
00:45:26.579 --> 00:45:27.280
leagues in the U.S.
734
00:45:28.789 --> 00:45:30.570
I think it's a little bit of both. And that's
735
00:45:30.590 --> 00:45:32.329
a big reason why you would want to do that
736
00:45:32.389 --> 00:45:34.929
is like, like, let's say that I went to a
737
00:45:35.750 --> 00:45:39.360
different country. Let's say that there was a very important
738
00:45:39.449 --> 00:45:44.119
tech developer in a different country. Like let's say China, right?
739
00:45:44.460 --> 00:45:46.000
Someone is developing.
740
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:47.559
We get wind.
741
00:45:47.619 --> 00:45:50.139
The United States government gets wind that someone is really
742
00:45:50.179 --> 00:45:55.079
developing something super crazy in China. That's going to revolutionize
743
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:59.099
the way that we operate as a society. Well, what
744
00:45:59.139 --> 00:46:01.800
we would do, we would just reach out to that individual.
745
00:46:01.820 --> 00:46:06.619
We would reach out to that person. And we would say, hey,
746
00:46:08.610 --> 00:46:13.469
we'll give you $ 500 million to come and work for us.
747
00:46:15.929 --> 00:46:19.309
You know, skip out on what the Chinese government's doing
748
00:46:19.389 --> 00:46:22.739
over there. Come and work for us. Bring your technology
749
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:30.619
with you. Okay? So then... We get that individual working
750
00:46:30.699 --> 00:46:35.300
for our companies and our organization, and that guy, anything
751
00:46:35.340 --> 00:46:39.210
that he does for that company and for that organization,
752
00:46:40.269 --> 00:46:46.449
he doesn't own. He can't do anything with it. He
753
00:46:46.510 --> 00:46:49.219
can't create his own company. He can't create his own
754
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.739
business for the thing that he's working for your company for.
755
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.679
Anything that he tries.
756
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:56.730
500 mils for, right? That's what the 500 million's for.
757
00:46:58.570 --> 00:47:01.579
Well, exactly. But that's the way that they're paid off, right?
758
00:47:02.059 --> 00:47:06.860
They're paid off like, hey, instead of making your own
759
00:47:07.099 --> 00:47:09.079
business and your own corporation that's going to be in
760
00:47:09.139 --> 00:47:12.179
competition with us, we're just going to pay you off
761
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.460
and then you're going to come and work for us.
762
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.599
Instead of creating your own business and your own company
763
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:21.219
that is going to revolutionize the tech industry. then you're
764
00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:24.579
going to be in a competition, direct competition with what
765
00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:28.079
we're doing. That way we'll have your technology and there
766
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.639
won't be anything that you can do about it. That's
767
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:33.119
the reason that we would want to do that. And
768
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:36.050
that person is never going to be the CEO or
769
00:47:36.260 --> 00:47:41.510
XEO or whatever of any corporation. He's just going to
770
00:47:41.570 --> 00:47:44.570
be the worker for that corporation. And they're going to
771
00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:46.750
keep him at a certain level so that he can
772
00:47:46.789 --> 00:47:51.590
never expand beyond the parameters of of what he's given.
773
00:47:51.630 --> 00:47:54.260
And then if anybody ever really slips through the cracks,
774
00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:56.940
then their invention or whatever it is that they're doing
775
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.559
can just be, you know, buried under the national security act.
776
00:48:03.739 --> 00:48:08.030
If we're talking about, is this an analogy of like
777
00:48:08.139 --> 00:48:10.750
some tech whiz in China or does the, would the
778
00:48:10.789 --> 00:48:14.590
gate program apply equally to all industries? Is it not just,
779
00:48:14.610 --> 00:48:16.449
cause you said it's not just one thing. So is
780
00:48:16.570 --> 00:48:19.300
it not just like, people that are gifted in telepathy
781
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.719
and remote viewing, but also if you're just really good
782
00:48:21.739 --> 00:48:25.849
at technology, you get folded into the same sort of,
783
00:48:26.099 --> 00:48:27.300
you know, gate program.
784
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.880
Exactly. And it's not even just that it could be,
785
00:48:33.659 --> 00:48:38.519
identifying pattern recognition. Like some people are really good at
786
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.010
pattern recognition. I mean, we show in the movie, Marilyn
787
00:48:41.050 --> 00:48:43.789
Manson says that the CIA wanted to recruit him for
788
00:48:43.829 --> 00:48:46.610
the ability to identify how many people are inside of
789
00:48:46.650 --> 00:48:48.289
a room as soon as he walks into the room.
790
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.659
And not even thinking about it or even looking, he
791
00:48:53.699 --> 00:48:56.340
just knows how many people are inside of the room automatically.
792
00:48:59.449 --> 00:49:03.730
So it's things that you would never even think about
793
00:49:04.670 --> 00:49:11.690
that could be useful for the intelligence community.
794
00:49:14.269 --> 00:49:19.059
What do you think the chances are that like game
795
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.400
shows for example because i i don't know if you
796
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.610
know anyone that's ever had to like go on jeopardy
797
00:49:23.659 --> 00:49:26.190
or as trained to go on it's not like you
798
00:49:26.210 --> 00:49:30.269
just get plucked out um by chance people train for
799
00:49:30.309 --> 00:49:32.590
it for years and years and go through like special
800
00:49:32.650 --> 00:49:36.159
programs and tests and to be able to qualify for jeopardy.
801
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:39.650
I'm just, do you think that game shows like jeopardy,
802
00:49:39.769 --> 00:49:42.710
could those just be an extension of the gate program
803
00:49:42.730 --> 00:49:43.070
as well?
804
00:49:43.090 --> 00:49:47.530
I've never thought about that, but it's definitely a, um,
805
00:49:48.030 --> 00:49:50.929
it's definitely a possibility. Um, For sure.
806
00:49:51.369 --> 00:49:53.489
Because that would be like, is there a cutoff, I guess?
807
00:49:53.510 --> 00:49:58.849
Because usually when someone's talking about gifted, my preconceived notion
808
00:49:58.889 --> 00:50:01.670
is we're talking about children. We're talking about minors that
809
00:50:01.690 --> 00:50:04.530
would be going through the GATE program. But I mean,
810
00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:06.400
would there be a reason that the government would want
811
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.440
to stop tracking you just because you graduated high school?
812
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.679
No, they're going to want to track you all the
813
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:16.519
way up until whatever it is that you're doing with
814
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:16.920
your life.
815
00:50:18.820 --> 00:50:22.079
Is there any way to disqualify yourself from the gate program?
816
00:50:22.780 --> 00:50:24.139
No, nothing that you can do about it.
817
00:50:24.980 --> 00:50:26.840
So once you're in, you can never get out.
818
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.900
Even if you're not in the gate program, they still
819
00:50:30.940 --> 00:50:38.780
have a record file on you. Someone does. CIA, NSA, FBI,
820
00:50:38.820 --> 00:50:41.699
you got a record file on you somewhere in one
821
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:46.150
of these organizations, three-letter organizations or the military. Someone's got
822
00:50:46.190 --> 00:50:48.179
a file on you. You don't even have to be
823
00:50:48.219 --> 00:50:51.000
in the gay program. There's nothing you can do about it.
824
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.440
You can't opt out of it. Nothing your parents can
825
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:57.429
do about it. Nothing you can say about it. It's
826
00:50:57.449 --> 00:50:59.750
just what it is. And then whenever the Patriot Act happened,
827
00:51:00.050 --> 00:51:04.110
it just made it even more impossible for the government
828
00:51:04.269 --> 00:51:08.130
not to do that. Because then they just put it
829
00:51:08.210 --> 00:51:11.250
under national security that now they can get access to
830
00:51:11.469 --> 00:51:13.989
anybody's school record with a freaking.
831
00:51:16.530 --> 00:51:21.269
Flip of a switch because of terrorism. So anything that
832
00:51:21.309 --> 00:51:24.840
was left over from FERPA in the early seventies that
833
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.719
I was talking about earlier, whenever the parents found out
834
00:51:28.780 --> 00:51:31.079
that the CIA had been getting access to all their
835
00:51:31.099 --> 00:51:37.239
child's school records, the Patriot Act basically obliterated anything that
836
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.579
was left out of that, right? Because now they can
837
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.059
just go in under the threat of national security, just
838
00:51:44.099 --> 00:51:47.280
like how that they can blink at your invention or
839
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:51.909
your patent or whatever it is that you have created
840
00:51:52.010 --> 00:51:55.630
under the national security. You know, the Invention Secrecy Act
841
00:51:55.730 --> 00:52:01.050
of 1951 literally says that the government can classify any
842
00:52:01.110 --> 00:52:04.349
patent under the threat of national security. And, you know,
843
00:52:04.510 --> 00:52:09.099
what is national security? National security is whatever the government
844
00:52:09.139 --> 00:52:12.840
says that it is. They can just make it out.
845
00:52:13.820 --> 00:52:16.639
Do you think there's any chance that there's an opposing
846
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:21.170
faction version of the gate program, like a resistance version
847
00:52:21.230 --> 00:52:25.429
that's also ear-tagging potential advanced people?
848
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:33.900
That would be really interesting. That would be cool if
849
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:34.300
there was.
850
00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:38.539
Cause even this is in the weeds a little bit,
851
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.320
but I mean, I remember hearing from a guy named
852
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.579
Benjamin Fulford, who was like some economist that works out
853
00:52:44.619 --> 00:52:47.360
of Japan, I think, but he was making all these
854
00:52:47.460 --> 00:52:51.139
claims for a while that there is an oppositional force
855
00:52:51.219 --> 00:52:54.949
to whatever you would classify as like the Illuminati in
856
00:52:54.989 --> 00:52:59.030
modern day. And that in Japan, there's this white dragon society,
857
00:52:59.289 --> 00:53:00.769
which believe it or not, I think is also in
858
00:53:00.789 --> 00:53:03.369
an Ironman or like an Avengers comic, but that this
859
00:53:03.489 --> 00:53:08.050
white dragon society is, is like the white hat Illuminati
860
00:53:08.110 --> 00:53:12.250
that are constantly at battle with the black hat Illuminati.
861
00:53:12.769 --> 00:53:15.989
So I guess maybe in just like a dualistic version
862
00:53:16.030 --> 00:53:19.119
of everything, I assume that there's got to be some
863
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.280
kind of a different, and even if it's not just
864
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.340
good versus bad, there's got to be a state versus
865
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.440
not the state aspect of this, or at least like,
866
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.699
warfare within the factions within who's ever running the gate
867
00:53:32.739 --> 00:53:35.659
program the same way that if FBI and ATF are
868
00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:39.320
both tasked on the same operation they might not be
869
00:53:39.380 --> 00:53:42.019
working in tandem they might be like working in opposition
870
00:53:42.059 --> 00:53:42.699
to each other.
871
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:48.360
Yeah but the problem is too is that what is
872
00:53:48.500 --> 00:53:50.820
bad and what is good you know what I mean
873
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.719
like I 100% believe that a lot of these people
874
00:53:55.820 --> 00:54:00.590
believe that they're doing it for the greater good, that
875
00:54:00.610 --> 00:54:01.730
they are the good guys.
876
00:54:03.849 --> 00:54:07.710
Well, we wouldn't want China to have all of the telepaths, right?
877
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:13.099
It's almost Project Paperclip-esque. You don't want the Nazis to
878
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:16.199
have all the rocket scientists. You want the American Nazis
879
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:17.880
to have the German Nazi scientists.
880
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.469
Exactly. So it becomes down to like a thing of
881
00:54:22.550 --> 00:54:25.710
like ideology. Like what if the people that are running this,
882
00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:30.269
what we perceive to be a negative gate program, believe
883
00:54:30.329 --> 00:54:32.769
that it's a good gate program.
884
00:54:34.909 --> 00:54:37.380
I'm going to assume the answer is yes, but I
885
00:54:37.420 --> 00:54:40.820
just want to know what your opinion would Danny basically
886
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.480
be like the gate programming poster child.
887
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.469
I would think so. I think so.
888
00:54:47.469 --> 00:54:52.380
100 because a lot of what you're describing here and
889
00:54:52.389 --> 00:54:54.980
the intent of it and like the how deep and
890
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:58.219
dark and underground some of this would imply all kinds
891
00:54:58.260 --> 00:55:02.239
of tracking and surveillance there's another stephen king book called
892
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:05.449
the institution i believe they just recently had a whole
893
00:55:05.510 --> 00:55:08.730
tv series and this this is basically the premise is
894
00:55:08.789 --> 00:55:11.969
that um if you pop up on the radar for
895
00:55:12.030 --> 00:55:14.820
having some sort of I think for the main character,
896
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:19.000
he's got telekinetic abilities, but if you're telekinetic or telepathic,
897
00:55:19.019 --> 00:55:21.929
they call them TKs and TPs, or some people are both.
898
00:55:22.349 --> 00:55:25.010
And if you show up on the list, you get
899
00:55:25.070 --> 00:55:30.090
kidnapped and then trained in this sort of Monarch, MK Ultra,
900
00:55:30.369 --> 00:55:33.969
you know, grade school. And then they train those kids
901
00:55:34.070 --> 00:55:39.139
to basically become international political assassins using telepathy.
902
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:42.710
I mean... How much of that do you think is
903
00:55:43.409 --> 00:55:47.739
fiction versus Stephen King just wrote exactly what's going on?
904
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:56.340
I got to tell you, whenever I watched that, because
905
00:55:56.389 --> 00:56:00.389
I had already wrote a lot of the movie already
906
00:56:00.449 --> 00:56:03.230
before that series ever came out. Like it had already
907
00:56:03.269 --> 00:56:05.550
been written. Everything that was going to be in the
908
00:56:05.610 --> 00:56:08.070
movie was already in the movie. I'd filmed quite a
909
00:56:08.090 --> 00:56:10.989
bit of it at that point. I've been working on
910
00:56:11.010 --> 00:56:16.389
this for like, you know, three to four years. And
911
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:23.000
I watched it and I was like, holy shit. This
912
00:56:23.099 --> 00:56:27.050
is essentially my movie. This is a fictionalized version of
913
00:56:28.900 --> 00:56:33.829
Of my movie and not everything, not everything completely, uh,
914
00:56:35.570 --> 00:56:40.369
lines up, but a large majority of it is pretty
915
00:56:40.469 --> 00:56:44.150
dang identical as to what's going on. Even to the
916
00:56:44.190 --> 00:56:48.469
degree that you just said that they're assassinating people with
917
00:56:48.489 --> 00:56:53.480
their mind. Now we talk about that in a psychic agent.
918
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.750
the gate program, but not that children were doing it,
919
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:01.769
but that it is possible to do. Lim Buchanan, which
920
00:57:01.809 --> 00:57:05.369
was in the Stargate remote viewing unit, says that he
921
00:57:05.409 --> 00:57:07.949
was asked if he could kill Osama bin Laden with
922
00:57:07.989 --> 00:57:11.780
his mind. And I asked him, did you do it?
923
00:57:11.929 --> 00:57:13.789
And he said, no, I wouldn't do it. And I said, well,
924
00:57:14.010 --> 00:57:15.650
just because you wouldn't do it, does that mean that
925
00:57:15.690 --> 00:57:18.050
you can't do it? Could you do it if you
926
00:57:18.090 --> 00:57:21.360
wanted to do it? He said, yes, of course I could.
927
00:57:23.219 --> 00:57:28.179
And then that brings into a whole other level of this.
928
00:57:28.539 --> 00:57:32.920
And that was my entire thing from the very beginning.
929
00:57:32.940 --> 00:57:36.320
They shut down the program in 1995. The remote viewing
930
00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:41.489
Stargate unit was supposed to be transferred to the CIA.
931
00:57:42.769 --> 00:57:45.230
And the CIA got their hands on it and they
932
00:57:45.250 --> 00:57:48.699
shut it down. They said that nothing had ever come
933
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.219
of the unit and that's why they shut it. It
934
00:57:51.260 --> 00:57:58.840
never amounted to any data collection information ever being obtained
935
00:57:59.460 --> 00:58:01.159
by the psychics or the remote view, which is a
936
00:58:01.260 --> 00:58:02.960
complete and utter lie. You're not going to have a
937
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:08.010
unit running from 1978 to 1995 and never get anything
938
00:58:08.110 --> 00:58:11.949
out of it. There's a direct lie. So in my mind,
939
00:58:13.849 --> 00:58:19.059
why would they shut down that unit. And there's two
940
00:58:20.179 --> 00:58:23.199
reasons that I believe that they would shut down the unit,
941
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.659
other than the official explanation, which Angela Ford gets into
942
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:30.880
in the movie. And one of those reasons is, well,
943
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:32.900
why you would want to shut that down is if
944
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:38.039
you already have another unit available. You already have another
945
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.539
group of people. And we do know that there was another,
946
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:44.800
there were multiple remote viewing units, but the Stargate unit
947
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:49.559
was the only one that got essentially declassified that the
948
00:58:49.579 --> 00:58:54.320
public knows about, but there were several others. One of
949
00:58:54.340 --> 00:58:57.619
those was involved with the, and we don't know the
950
00:58:57.659 --> 00:59:00.159
names of them because they've never been declassified. They only
951
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:04.829
declassified the one at Fort Meade, Maryland, which ended on
952
00:59:04.909 --> 00:59:09.130
the Stargate program. But the other ones never got declassified,
953
00:59:09.170 --> 00:59:14.460
but they're were and probably still are. I can't confirm
954
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:19.590
that with 100% certainty. But I would be guessing what
955
00:59:19.630 --> 00:59:23.170
they did is they found another use for remote viewing.
956
00:59:24.070 --> 00:59:28.460
And that turned into remote influencing, which then wraps in
957
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:35.000
remote assassination abilities as well, which then wraps into the
958
00:59:35.139 --> 00:59:38.510
Institute by Stephen King, which we found out in the
959
00:59:38.570 --> 00:59:42.969
Institute that whenever they get to that next level, whenever
960
00:59:43.010 --> 00:59:47.909
they graduate from being MKUltra, they all go into this
961
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:52.739
separate building from the school and they all basically lock
962
00:59:52.820 --> 00:59:56.260
minds and then they're able to project into somebody else's
963
00:59:56.340 --> 00:59:59.539
body and see through their body and control their body
964
00:59:59.619 --> 01:00:01.460
to assassinate and kill people.
965
01:00:03.739 --> 01:00:05.420
Where does Groflame come into this?
966
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:11.059
Groflame was just the name of the original remote viewing
967
01:00:11.340 --> 01:00:14.809
unit that was done by Army Intelligence and then it
968
01:00:14.889 --> 01:00:17.769
went to Sunstreak and then, well, first it was Center
969
01:00:17.809 --> 01:00:22.480
Lane and then grill flame, uh, then, uh, uh, sun streak.
970
01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:27.190
And then it ended, uh, was renamed, uh, Stargate.
971
01:00:28.230 --> 01:00:31.369
When, when it goes from each of those different programs,
972
01:00:31.530 --> 01:00:34.309
is that like a new group of people and they're
973
01:00:34.349 --> 01:00:36.570
like shutting down one unit and starting up with a
974
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.599
new one? Or are they making use of the exact
975
01:00:39.619 --> 01:00:41.880
same people and just changing the name of the program
976
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:43.820
for like obscurity reasons?
977
01:00:45.289 --> 01:00:49.079
Mostly for obscurity reasons. Sometimes it was shut down, but
978
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.889
it was transferred to another unit. It started out at
979
01:00:53.949 --> 01:00:59.650
Army Intelligence, and then DIA got involved, and then they
980
01:01:00.250 --> 01:01:03.670
decided to do this joint unit between Army Intelligence and DIA,
981
01:01:03.789 --> 01:01:06.860
and then it went to be refunded and more money
982
01:01:06.889 --> 01:01:10.760
be allocated toward it. And then they thought, the budget
983
01:01:10.780 --> 01:01:14.360
subcommittee thought that the program had been double budgeted, but
984
01:01:14.420 --> 01:01:19.050
it really wasn't double budgeted. It was just a unit
985
01:01:19.090 --> 01:01:23.960
being funded from two different places the DIA and Army Intelligence.
986
01:01:23.980 --> 01:01:26.019
So then Army Intelligence had to split off from DIA
987
01:01:26.219 --> 01:01:29.510
and then they created their own unit. But then later on,
988
01:01:29.530 --> 01:01:33.750
they ended up merging back with DIA, which then created
989
01:01:33.829 --> 01:01:37.579
another name change. And then in the end, then it
990
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.719
had to be name changed again. So it was mostly,
991
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:43.960
I mean, people dropped off and people came back and
992
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.590
then they left and then they come and then some
993
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:52.050
new people would come in toward the end. And, but
994
01:01:52.110 --> 01:01:54.769
it was mostly the, there was only ever 20 people,
995
01:01:55.010 --> 01:01:58.309
less than 20 people were ever in the official unit
996
01:01:58.409 --> 01:02:01.250
from its inception till its very end.
997
01:02:03.329 --> 01:02:05.949
If we go to the most extreme end of the
998
01:02:05.989 --> 01:02:10.230
spectrum for the capabilities of someone that maybe is, you know,
999
01:02:10.369 --> 01:02:13.090
like the valedictorian of the gate program and, you know,
1000
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.099
top of their class, top of the unit, they get
1001
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:20.179
into the military. You just mentioned... one guy that said
1002
01:02:20.219 --> 01:02:23.159
that he could have just killed Osama bin Laden, like
1003
01:02:23.179 --> 01:02:26.179
with his mind, right? Is that like, is there anything
1004
01:02:26.260 --> 01:02:29.469
beyond that? Cause I imagine that you could be like
1005
01:02:29.510 --> 01:02:33.329
a telepathic serial killer. If you had that kind of ability,
1006
01:02:33.369 --> 01:02:36.289
couldn't you just sit back and just murder people all
1007
01:02:36.329 --> 01:02:38.250
day with your mind and get away scot-free?
1008
01:02:39.869 --> 01:02:42.489
Yes, you could. But what would be the purpose of
1009
01:02:42.769 --> 01:02:46.840
actually doing that? The, the, The reason that they don't
1010
01:02:46.900 --> 01:02:53.880
do that is because it doesn't create political upheaval. Like,
1011
01:02:53.900 --> 01:02:57.400
would you rather had Osama bin Laden die of a
1012
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:02.059
heart attack from some psychic remote viewer? Or was it
1013
01:03:02.099 --> 01:03:04.820
better that SEAL Team 6 came in and took him
1014
01:03:04.900 --> 01:03:07.380
out so that we can come back home and go, hoorah, yeah.
1015
01:03:08.710 --> 01:03:12.269
We finally took the emoji. I mean, I guess I'm
1016
01:03:12.389 --> 01:03:14.550
thinking way more on a personal level. It's not the
1017
01:03:14.590 --> 01:03:18.030
military sending him out. But if I'm the individual that
1018
01:03:18.090 --> 01:03:21.730
has the ability to murder someone with your mind, I mean,
1019
01:03:22.469 --> 01:03:25.469
I would just be putting sports bets down all the time.
1020
01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:28.530
And right as the QB goes to make that game
1021
01:03:28.570 --> 01:03:30.849
winning pass, just like bloop. And then he just drops
1022
01:03:30.909 --> 01:03:33.789
dead on the field. And then I'm just making money.
1023
01:03:35.550 --> 01:03:36.889
Yeah, but then you're going to have a shit ton
1024
01:03:36.929 --> 01:03:39.889
of karmic repercussions for just killing somebody with your mind, bro.
1025
01:03:39.909 --> 01:03:45.599
You just can't get away with it with Scott Free, right?
1026
01:03:45.739 --> 01:03:48.039
The universe is going to come back at you tenfold
1027
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:51.079
for killing somebody with your mind.
1028
01:03:51.099 --> 01:03:56.159
I mean, I guess if you are able to do
1029
01:03:56.610 --> 01:04:00.469
that sort of an act, like actual telepathy, does that
1030
01:04:00.590 --> 01:04:03.869
mean that karmic debt is also real? Is that like
1031
01:04:03.909 --> 01:04:04.590
a package deal?
1032
01:04:06.150 --> 01:04:09.989
I think karmic debt is real no matter what you're
1033
01:04:10.010 --> 01:04:17.150
talking about. If you drop a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima,
1034
01:04:18.090 --> 01:04:20.610
the people responsible for dropping that bomb is going to
1035
01:04:20.650 --> 01:04:23.469
be living out karmic debt for a really long ass time.
1036
01:04:25.150 --> 01:04:29.840
Regardless if it's instant or if it's over a long
1037
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:34.889
period of time. I mean, that's just the natural law.
1038
01:04:35.510 --> 01:04:40.110
It doesn't have anything to do with religious ideology. I
1039
01:04:40.389 --> 01:04:43.159
just believe that that is how it is. Whenever I
1040
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.980
do something wrong or whenever I do something bad, I
1041
01:04:48.219 --> 01:04:53.679
get that instant karma, dude. There's no time that hardly
1042
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:58.900
waits in between me getting what's going to happen to
1043
01:04:58.940 --> 01:05:03.599
me between the event that I... do something wrong intentionally
1044
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.980
to someone. So I just don't do anything wrong to anybody.
1045
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:11.099
I do my best not to intentionally ever wrong anyone,
1046
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:14.210
and then I'm normally always good. But I found that
1047
01:05:14.269 --> 01:05:17.349
out the hard way is that whenever I wrong someone
1048
01:05:17.409 --> 01:05:22.329
or intentionally hurt someone, I immediately get that karmic response.
1049
01:05:22.789 --> 01:05:24.750
And it might not be like that for everyone. It
1050
01:05:24.789 --> 01:05:27.250
might take a long time, but I 100% believe that
1051
01:05:30.510 --> 01:05:35.349
Whatever you do and whatever kind of life you lead,
1052
01:05:36.909 --> 01:05:38.809
whether in this life or the next life or the
1053
01:05:38.849 --> 01:05:41.969
life after that or the life after that or for infinity,
1054
01:05:41.989 --> 01:05:44.820
you're going to be living out those decisions that you made.
1055
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:50.199
I think this is an interesting concept. I'm going to
1056
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:53.159
have this wrap back around to relate back to our
1057
01:05:53.179 --> 01:05:56.670
topic again. But on this concept of karmic debt, you
1058
01:05:56.710 --> 01:06:00.429
mentioned if you're the guy that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, right? Well,
1059
01:06:00.570 --> 01:06:03.050
if we look at the Manhattan Project, I can't remember
1060
01:06:03.110 --> 01:06:05.809
the number of people involved, but it was like 30,000
1061
01:06:05.809 --> 01:06:08.989
people or some ridiculous number. amount that didn't that they
1062
01:06:09.010 --> 01:06:14.099
were so compartmentalized by the DOD that they didn't necessarily
1063
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:15.679
know what the hell they were doing so there's a
1064
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:19.670
good chance that there was somebody involved in um the
1065
01:06:19.710 --> 01:06:24.050
manhattan project it was asked to you know like multiply
1066
01:06:24.090 --> 01:06:27.630
these two numbers together and because they did that the
1067
01:06:27.690 --> 01:06:31.019
nuke dropped so do you think that that person that
1068
01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:36.000
was abstracted away and compartmentalized away also shares some of
1069
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:38.679
that karmic debt even though they just kind of added
1070
01:06:38.739 --> 01:06:41.349
numbers together and didn't realize what the big picture was.
1071
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:44.800
I think that it would be, just for the sake
1072
01:06:44.860 --> 01:06:49.130
of this, I think that it would 100% fall on
1073
01:06:49.150 --> 01:06:54.070
the person that gave the final order to drop the bomb.
1074
01:06:56.070 --> 01:06:58.969
Do you believe in the concept of revelation of the
1075
01:06:59.010 --> 01:07:00.510
method to free karmic debt?
1076
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:05.860
You have to show what's going to happen before it
1077
01:07:05.900 --> 01:07:08.280
happens in order to... Yes, I do. I do believe
1078
01:07:08.300 --> 01:07:10.199
that that is a thing. I believe that that happens
1079
01:07:10.219 --> 01:07:13.500
all the time. That's a big reason why People call
1080
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.630
that predictive programming, but I believe that they got that wrong.
1081
01:07:16.650 --> 01:07:18.829
I don't believe that that's predictive programming. I believe that
1082
01:07:18.849 --> 01:07:20.449
that is a way for them to get away with
1083
01:07:20.469 --> 01:07:23.360
the event and not have any karmic debt on them.
1084
01:07:25.539 --> 01:07:31.260
So if you put out a movie like Contagion, That
1085
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:35.769
is exactly like COVID to the T. Everything that happened
1086
01:07:35.809 --> 01:07:39.710
in 2020 that this movie came out in what, 2013
1087
01:07:39.710 --> 01:07:42.699
or 2012? You put out a movie like that and
1088
01:07:42.739 --> 01:07:45.519
then whatever it is that you do in 2020, like
1089
01:07:45.539 --> 01:07:49.780
there's not any issues. No problems. You've already showed them
1090
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:53.900
what's going to happen. And they subconsciously already know. It
1091
01:07:54.460 --> 01:07:58.710
doesn't matter when it happens. It could be 20 years later,
1092
01:07:58.710 --> 01:08:01.380
10 years later, five years later. I mean, but then
1093
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:05.329
there could be some kind of time limit on it.
1094
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:07.059
I don't know. I don't know what the cosmic law
1095
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:12.829
is on that. But I would imagine that as long
1096
01:08:12.869 --> 01:08:16.869
as you've told that's what I believe that the revelation
1097
01:08:16.890 --> 01:08:19.039
of the method is for. It's what I believe the
1098
01:08:19.460 --> 01:08:22.300
predictive programming is for. And I've always stood firm on
1099
01:08:22.340 --> 01:08:25.859
that is, is that is exactly how it's done and
1100
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.060
why it's done. It's not to give us some kind
1101
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:32.770
of poor knowledge or to let people know. I mean,
1102
01:08:32.810 --> 01:08:35.750
it is to let people know, but it's where the,
1103
01:08:35.890 --> 01:08:38.529
they don't have any repercussions for the things that they're
1104
01:08:38.550 --> 01:08:39.310
getting ready to do.
1105
01:08:41.449 --> 01:08:46.430
What are some, um, Non weaponized versions of the skills
1106
01:08:46.489 --> 01:08:48.819
that you might develop in the gate. I guess I'm
1107
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.840
specifically talking about like telepathy. Right. Are there any like
1108
01:08:53.979 --> 01:08:56.029
if let's say that someone's listening and they're like, I'm
1109
01:08:56.069 --> 01:08:58.670
legitimately a telepath. I could kill you with my mind,
1110
01:08:58.710 --> 01:09:00.909
but I don't want the karmic debt. What are good
1111
01:09:01.010 --> 01:09:04.489
things you can do with telepathy? Maybe this is just
1112
01:09:05.149 --> 01:09:07.800
telling on myself a little too much, but for me,
1113
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:11.399
it's just like you just win at gambling and getting
1114
01:09:11.420 --> 01:09:15.100
an unfair advantage at every turn of life. But how
1115
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.520
do I use being able to read someone else's mind
1116
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.550
aside from buying them the perfect Christmas present.
1117
01:09:22.090 --> 01:09:27.250
Well, with remote influencing, Dale Graff and Lynn Buchanan actually
1118
01:09:27.949 --> 01:09:31.050
talked about this in the interview that I did with
1119
01:09:31.090 --> 01:09:34.800
them for the movie. I went to them and talked
1120
01:09:34.819 --> 01:09:40.380
with them for hours for the movie. And they had
1121
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:46.880
mentioned that remote influencing works the same exact way as
1122
01:09:47.470 --> 01:09:50.109
it does before the positive as it does for the negative.
1123
01:09:51.090 --> 01:09:55.800
So just as you can implant thoughts and ideas into
1124
01:09:55.949 --> 01:10:02.180
people's heads and negatively influence them, make them do something
1125
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:06.140
that they otherwise wouldn't do. Now, this happens over a
1126
01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:10.880
long period of time. You just can't sit here and
1127
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:14.420
try and remote influence somebody one time and expect it
1128
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:19.739
to work. This happens over a long period of time,
1129
01:10:19.819 --> 01:10:24.380
sometimes months of working on a individual or on a target.
1130
01:10:24.460 --> 01:10:27.399
And remote influencing is very real. We show a document
1131
01:10:27.979 --> 01:10:30.689
in the movie that was written by Ed May that
1132
01:10:30.729 --> 01:10:34.930
gives you the steps and the guidelines on how to
1133
01:10:35.909 --> 01:10:39.529
remote influence somebody. Now, we didn't go over all the
1134
01:10:39.569 --> 01:10:41.649
steps in there because I think that it's really important
1135
01:10:41.670 --> 01:10:45.520
information and we don't want people to nefarious people to
1136
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.460
actually have access to that information because it's actually a
1137
01:10:48.539 --> 01:10:52.239
very rare document that not a lot of people have
1138
01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:55.100
access to, but I show that it's real in the movie.
1139
01:10:55.899 --> 01:11:00.659
But both of them have said that it works the
1140
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:05.630
opposite way too, that you can literally heal people through
1141
01:11:05.810 --> 01:11:12.609
remote influencing. You can help them with paralysis. You can
1142
01:11:12.649 --> 01:11:15.520
help their vision heal. You can help their hearing. You
1143
01:11:16.500 --> 01:11:19.239
can help some people be able to walk again. You
1144
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:24.350
can help them in any kind of way that you
1145
01:11:24.390 --> 01:11:28.569
could possibly think of, just as you can think of
1146
01:11:29.470 --> 01:11:34.750
a negative way to influence somebody to, you know, crash
1147
01:11:34.810 --> 01:11:38.939
a plane or to derail a train or what all
1148
01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:43.329
those things are also possible. as well, but just as
1149
01:11:43.390 --> 01:11:46.289
the negative things are possible, also the positive things are
1150
01:11:46.369 --> 01:11:47.170
possible as well.
1151
01:11:48.989 --> 01:11:52.850
Do you delineate any of this from like witchcraft? Like
1152
01:11:52.909 --> 01:11:56.109
for example, uh, like, you know, Donald Trump's about to
1153
01:11:56.149 --> 01:11:59.220
get elected or there's an, all of the witches in,
1154
01:11:59.380 --> 01:12:02.619
you know, New York get together on like the Brooklyn
1155
01:12:02.659 --> 01:12:06.140
bridge and start casting spells out into the ether. Uh,
1156
01:12:06.579 --> 01:12:09.880
expecting to basically have this like large impact, a very
1157
01:12:10.380 --> 01:12:13.579
similar way, I guess, that you would describe like the Institute.
1158
01:12:13.659 --> 01:12:15.840
So instead of a bunch of kids getting in a
1159
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.100
room and trying to take over a pilot and have
1160
01:12:18.140 --> 01:12:20.800
a pilot crash into a mountain and take out, you know,
1161
01:12:20.819 --> 01:12:25.310
whatever warlords on board, um, like is like, what's the
1162
01:12:25.369 --> 01:12:27.640
difference between a bunch of witches or a bunch of
1163
01:12:27.979 --> 01:12:31.239
Christians getting together and praying for a certain outcome? Are
1164
01:12:31.260 --> 01:12:34.699
we just talking about different lens, you know, looking at
1165
01:12:34.739 --> 01:12:37.720
the exact same thing or do you delineate like actual
1166
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:38.680
differences between those?
1167
01:12:40.100 --> 01:12:43.470
Well, it would be a difference of technique, right? In
1168
01:12:43.770 --> 01:12:46.670
the way that you do it. I mean, from my understanding,
1169
01:12:46.710 --> 01:12:52.560
a bunch of black magic is, you know, ritualistic in nature,
1170
01:12:53.899 --> 01:13:00.970
that it requires a totem, it requires a sacrifice, it requires,
1171
01:13:00.979 --> 01:13:08.329
you know, sometimes an animal sacrifice and other very extreme instances,
1172
01:13:08.350 --> 01:13:16.189
you know, blood sacrifice and sacrifice of possibly another individual.
1173
01:13:16.289 --> 01:13:22.239
But I would say that the thing that uh is
1174
01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:26.439
the most similar between both of them is that you
1175
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:27.619
can't prove either one of.
1176
01:13:27.619 --> 01:13:32.939
Them right you can't good.
1177
01:13:33.250 --> 01:13:37.909
You can't prove that remote influencing works and you can't
1178
01:13:37.970 --> 01:13:41.329
prove that black magic works either it's it's it's the
1179
01:13:41.369 --> 01:13:45.510
same in that regard is that you know the process
1180
01:13:45.569 --> 01:13:50.810
of them are very much different, but the similarity is,
1181
01:13:50.869 --> 01:13:53.250
is that you can, uh, you can't prove either one
1182
01:13:53.270 --> 01:13:55.600
of them.
1183
01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:57.960
Why is that? Why, like, why couldn't you do a
1184
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.199
double blind study on, uh, influencing someone? Cause I mean,
1185
01:14:03.220 --> 01:14:06.250
you could have the person that has the ability to
1186
01:14:06.310 --> 01:14:08.909
influence someone remotely. And then the person that's going to
1187
01:14:08.970 --> 01:14:13.550
be influenced and just have, you know, independent observers on
1188
01:14:13.609 --> 01:14:15.970
both ends of that. Like how, how is that not
1189
01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:18.449
something that could be objectively tested?
1190
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:22.779
Well, I mean, it could, but then there's ethics involved
1191
01:14:22.859 --> 01:14:28.359
in it. And, you know, doing human testing on human
1192
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:31.659
trials is something that's, you know, very difficult to do
1193
01:14:31.699 --> 01:14:34.869
when it involves testing on another human being. And I
1194
01:14:34.890 --> 01:14:38.029
think that the time constraints as well, you know what
1195
01:14:38.050 --> 01:14:42.550
I mean? You would have to be, 100% sure that the,
1196
01:14:42.930 --> 01:14:48.060
that the person doesn't know anything about what it is
1197
01:14:48.140 --> 01:14:49.680
that the experiment is about.
1198
01:14:50.140 --> 01:14:50.340
Right.
1199
01:14:50.380 --> 01:14:56.880
If I'm trying to convince you to go eat McDonald's
1200
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:02.640
every day, then in order to prove that we would
1201
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:07.260
have to somehow make sure that you didn't see any
1202
01:15:07.300 --> 01:15:12.539
McDonald's ads. Throughout the month, you know what I mean?
1203
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:16.359
So is there no other external influences that is going
1204
01:15:16.380 --> 01:15:19.640
to be influencing you in the outcome that you're wanting
1205
01:15:19.659 --> 01:15:21.920
to get? It would be the issue would be the
1206
01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:24.859
problems because how could you guarantee that you just can't
1207
01:15:24.939 --> 01:15:30.409
lock people up in a scientific study for months at
1208
01:15:30.430 --> 01:15:30.670
a time?
1209
01:15:32.340 --> 01:15:36.649
I guess I'm thinking maybe too superficially, but, uh, like
1210
01:15:36.699 --> 01:15:41.350
a stage magic show with the hypnotist where the proof is,
1211
01:15:41.670 --> 01:15:44.890
will this person act like a chicken when I, you know,
1212
01:15:44.949 --> 01:15:47.100
snap my fingers or whatever, and then claim that they
1213
01:15:47.109 --> 01:15:50.590
didn't know it. Uh, like, As a level of like
1214
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.869
high suggestibility, can there just be another version of that?
1215
01:15:53.890 --> 01:15:58.390
Because I guess what's the main difference between a hypnotist
1216
01:15:58.430 --> 01:16:01.069
hypnotizing you to do something to prove he has an
1217
01:16:01.329 --> 01:16:04.949
ability as a hypnotist versus now he's just doing that remotely?
1218
01:16:04.970 --> 01:16:07.829
It seems like the exact same scenario could kind of
1219
01:16:07.850 --> 01:16:08.289
play out.
1220
01:16:09.409 --> 01:16:11.689
Yeah, I would agree with that. And that's what Russia
1221
01:16:11.770 --> 01:16:16.600
was also really into was this program called Adani Gipnos,
1222
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:19.319
which is hypnosis at a distance. And it's interesting that
1223
01:16:19.340 --> 01:16:21.159
you bring up hypnosis because I just went to a
1224
01:16:21.180 --> 01:16:27.369
hypnosis show. I just saw hypnosis at the California State Fair, bro.
1225
01:16:28.649 --> 01:16:31.710
What do you think about that? Do you think it's
1226
01:16:31.750 --> 01:16:34.229
like people playing? Because I guess the skeptic version is
1227
01:16:34.270 --> 01:16:38.960
that Someone is just highly suggestive and they're kind of
1228
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.880
like LARPing to their best LARPer ability. And that's what
1229
01:16:43.020 --> 01:16:47.760
usually hypnosis is versus people unwittingly doing things that they
1230
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:50.000
necessarily don't want to do.
1231
01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:55.989
I thought that it was very interesting. I think that
1232
01:16:56.109 --> 01:17:02.489
there were at least one or two plants in the crowd.
1233
01:17:04.270 --> 01:17:08.319
You know what I mean? Like people that were also
1234
01:17:08.340 --> 01:17:13.699
involved in the entire production that were with this individual.
1235
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:16.279
Right. Well, they're there to wet the whistle a little
1236
01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:19.079
bit to make it so like, oh, well, that guy
1237
01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:22.060
made an ass of himself. So maybe I'm open to
1238
01:17:22.100 --> 01:17:23.770
being suggestible to him.
1239
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:27.939
Exactly. But what I did find interesting, but I don't
1240
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.479
believe everyone was like that because a lot of people
1241
01:17:30.500 --> 01:17:32.520
were there with their families. So it would be really
1242
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:36.949
hard for this individual to just go on a tour
1243
01:17:37.090 --> 01:17:41.609
and bring entire families with her at every stop. It
1244
01:17:41.630 --> 01:17:44.760
would be very difficult for her to do that. Not impossible,
1245
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:48.300
but pretty dang difficult. But what I did find interesting
1246
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:53.159
is that she brought a lot of these people up
1247
01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:55.520
on stage. Uh, she picked a lot of them out
1248
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:57.560
of the crowd. Uh, they came up on stage and
1249
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.829
then she did a little thing. Uh, you know, she
1250
01:18:00.869 --> 01:18:03.630
would talk and be like, you know, uh, I'm going to,
1251
01:18:04.050 --> 01:18:07.050
whenever I count to three, you're going to be, uh,
1252
01:18:07.069 --> 01:18:09.270
passed out and you're not going to move. You're going
1253
01:18:09.289 --> 01:18:10.989
to put your head down and not going to speak
1254
01:18:11.050 --> 01:18:13.289
or anything. You're going to be completely, you're going to
1255
01:18:13.310 --> 01:18:20.689
be basically asleep. And, uh, Pretty much everybody almost immediately
1256
01:18:20.750 --> 01:18:24.670
went to sleep. Even the kids. Even the young kids,
1257
01:18:24.729 --> 01:18:30.079
like the five and six, seven. There was like young
1258
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:32.039
kids that were as young as five years old up there.
1259
01:18:33.500 --> 01:18:36.220
And I thought that that was really interesting because it's
1260
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:42.649
hard to get a five-year-old to stay still for a
1261
01:18:42.670 --> 01:18:46.350
long period of time. And they were. They were out cold, dude.
1262
01:18:46.890 --> 01:18:52.390
They were just didn't move. the entire time until she
1263
01:18:52.430 --> 01:18:53.609
said for them to move.
1264
01:18:55.390 --> 01:18:57.270
And that wouldn't be hard to take someone out of,
1265
01:18:57.430 --> 01:19:00.449
especially if you could remote hypnotize them as they're driving
1266
01:19:00.470 --> 01:19:02.869
to just pass out on the road. And like, no
1267
01:19:02.909 --> 01:19:04.909
one would even, who would even know that that was
1268
01:19:04.989 --> 01:19:05.770
an assassination.
1269
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.020
I believe that that has happened.
1270
01:19:10.539 --> 01:19:14.140
What about how much credit do you give the claims
1271
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.970
made in the men who stare at goats, which is
1272
01:19:17.010 --> 01:19:18.810
the book that was by John Ronson and then later
1273
01:19:18.850 --> 01:19:22.430
made into the movie starring George Clooney. And I can't
1274
01:19:22.449 --> 01:19:28.250
remember who else, Jeff Bridges. I do.
1275
01:19:29.250 --> 01:19:31.989
I do believe that. I mean, I really liked the movie.
1276
01:19:32.010 --> 01:19:33.250
I thought the movie was great. I thought it was
1277
01:19:33.270 --> 01:19:35.920
really funny, even though it was, you know, making fun of,
1278
01:19:37.250 --> 01:19:40.199
the remote viewing units. But what's interesting about that is
1279
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:43.500
that that was like a mixture of the other units
1280
01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:46.739
that have never been declassified, which had to do with
1281
01:19:46.819 --> 01:19:50.619
remote viewing and combat. And it's been theorized that that
1282
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:56.630
unit was a place in Texas or in the Carolinas
1283
01:19:56.770 --> 01:19:59.970
or somewhere in Northern California. No one really knows, but
1284
01:20:00.170 --> 01:20:05.970
that program is supposedly called Project Delta because Lynn Buchanan
1285
01:20:05.989 --> 01:20:09.020
was in the movie talks about how he got a
1286
01:20:09.100 --> 01:20:13.960
letter invite to go to project Delta. And, uh, he
1287
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.619
tore it up and refused because it was a combat
1288
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:19.760
unit and he was out of combat. He didn't want
1289
01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:21.770
to do any, he didn't want to be involved with
1290
01:20:21.829 --> 01:20:24.510
anything that had anything to do with combat. And it
1291
01:20:24.550 --> 01:20:26.630
wasn't until later on that he found out that that
1292
01:20:26.770 --> 01:20:33.239
unit was combining psychic abilities along with combat. And, uh,
1293
01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:37.369
The Men Who Stare at Goats is based upon a
1294
01:20:38.529 --> 01:20:44.869
lot of people's stories that were involved in the unit.
1295
01:20:44.970 --> 01:20:50.489
Lynn Buchanan is Lynn Cassidy, which is George Clooney's character
1296
01:20:50.770 --> 01:20:55.229
in The Men Who Stare at Goats. And it's like
1297
01:20:55.270 --> 01:21:00.550
a quasi look at a lot of people's stories that
1298
01:21:00.609 --> 01:21:04.800
were involved in both of these units and the one
1299
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:07.779
that's been declassified and the one that has never been declassified.
1300
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:14.680
But yes, apparently the killing a goat with your mind
1301
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:19.039
really did happen. And it really was done.
1302
01:21:19.060 --> 01:21:23.890
My, I guess my takeaway from the book and the movie,
1303
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:28.770
the both of them kind of combined is that the premise,
1304
01:21:28.989 --> 01:21:32.510
and this might be a strange takeaway, but that, the
1305
01:21:32.550 --> 01:21:36.590
way they were able to train soldiers to want to kill,
1306
01:21:37.060 --> 01:21:40.170
because I think that was the original catalyst, at least in,
1307
01:21:40.819 --> 01:21:43.119
the men who stare at goats was that in Vietnam,
1308
01:21:43.779 --> 01:21:47.289
the GIs had like perfect shots to take out the
1309
01:21:47.329 --> 01:21:50.930
Viet Cong, but they were unconsciously aiming high so that
1310
01:21:50.949 --> 01:21:54.409
they would intentionally miss because deep down, they didn't want
1311
01:21:54.470 --> 01:21:57.750
that karmic debt that they just murdered another person. So
1312
01:21:58.109 --> 01:22:01.520
the army, the military decides, how do we train these
1313
01:22:01.569 --> 01:22:05.760
guys to shoot, to kill against their own like conscience?
1314
01:22:05.819 --> 01:22:09.180
That's trying to prevent them from incurring this karmic debt.
1315
01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:11.460
And it goes down this line, long rabbit hole but
1316
01:22:11.500 --> 01:22:13.539
i think the solution that they came up with which
1317
01:22:13.619 --> 01:22:18.329
is where they found this uh this telepathic warfare was
1318
01:22:18.390 --> 01:22:21.510
to train them all in new age philosophy that we
1319
01:22:21.609 --> 01:22:24.689
are all one because now all of a sudden that
1320
01:22:24.750 --> 01:22:28.270
viet cong across the field it doesn't matter if you
1321
01:22:28.289 --> 01:22:30.850
get a head shot because you are him and he
1322
01:22:30.949 --> 01:22:33.729
is you and we are all one so it was
1323
01:22:33.770 --> 01:22:39.130
almost taking this like free love we are one universalism
1324
01:22:39.630 --> 01:22:42.550
and using that as a justification of why you can
1325
01:22:42.609 --> 01:22:46.710
murder somebody without karmic debt essentially did i get the
1326
01:22:46.729 --> 01:22:48.050
right takeaway.
1327
01:22:47.510 --> 01:22:51.140
Yeah that was really good and that seems to be
1328
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:55.300
exactly like what's uh going on in that that setup
1329
01:22:55.340 --> 01:22:58.619
because if you know if you're killing another individual then
1330
01:22:58.659 --> 01:23:01.359
that's one thing but if you're just you know killing
1331
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:05.279
a person that's just a part of you and a
1332
01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:09.739
part of the whole, then that's not such a big deal.
1333
01:23:09.739 --> 01:23:11.659
100%.
1334
01:23:11.659 --> 01:23:15.260
I think that that is probably a really big agenda
1335
01:23:16.539 --> 01:23:19.060
of the new age community.
1336
01:23:21.350 --> 01:23:25.430
If Ryder Lee's put in charge of the gate program tomorrow,
1337
01:23:25.470 --> 01:23:27.810
you get the call that you've been waiting on and
1338
01:23:27.829 --> 01:23:30.390
you know it's coming because you're slightly telepathic. I have
1339
01:23:30.430 --> 01:23:33.310
that sense about you. But you answer the call and
1340
01:23:33.350 --> 01:23:36.560
they're like, all right, Ryder, you know, everyone else has
1341
01:23:36.659 --> 01:23:40.539
flubbed this thing. You're in charge. What's the first course
1342
01:23:40.579 --> 01:23:44.060
of action? What is the GATE program focused on right now?
1343
01:23:46.659 --> 01:23:48.729
Oh, that's a really good question. And I don't really know.
1344
01:23:48.810 --> 01:23:52.609
I probably just close it all down because I don't
1345
01:23:52.649 --> 01:23:55.489
know what, because I would have to be in charge
1346
01:23:55.590 --> 01:23:59.470
of so many other things in order to adequately manage
1347
01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:04.279
know exactly what it is that i'm supposed to be
1348
01:24:04.319 --> 01:24:06.199
doing but.
1349
01:24:06.140 --> 01:24:07.920
If you shut it all down they all become free
1350
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:12.430
agents and now china can recruit them all no like
1351
01:24:12.470 --> 01:24:16.069
isn't there don't we have a duty for national the
1352
01:24:16.210 --> 01:24:20.050
actual national security without using it as like a weasel
1353
01:24:20.270 --> 01:24:22.770
out but that we would need to retain all of
1354
01:24:22.869 --> 01:24:28.039
our paperclip nazi scientist gate program you know valedictorians.
1355
01:24:28.829 --> 01:24:31.149
Have we really had that many people defect to China?
1356
01:24:32.930 --> 01:24:35.750
I mean, if they're offering a better deal, I guess.
1357
01:24:35.810 --> 01:24:39.890
I don't know. I mean, defecting somewhere, though. Mossad. What
1358
01:24:39.930 --> 01:24:41.689
if China tells you, hey, you don't even have to
1359
01:24:41.750 --> 01:24:44.069
move to China. You just got to be an agent
1360
01:24:44.149 --> 01:24:46.960
for us. And, you know, the rest of life will
1361
01:24:46.979 --> 01:24:47.760
be cushy for you.
1362
01:24:47.779 --> 01:24:56.600
Yeah, I don't know too many people that... That would
1363
01:24:56.659 --> 01:25:00.180
actually go. I don't think anybody wants to go to China.
1364
01:25:01.220 --> 01:25:02.119
I don't know anybody.
1365
01:25:02.659 --> 01:25:04.920
That wouldn't be the selling point. They wouldn't lead with, hey,
1366
01:25:04.979 --> 01:25:07.939
and you have to live in China. And honestly, without
1367
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.359
being like facetious about this, I really do think that
1368
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.310
if China wanted to be the one that recruited you,
1369
01:25:14.350 --> 01:25:16.229
you would never know it came from China. Just like
1370
01:25:16.270 --> 01:25:18.510
Tim Pool didn't know that that came from Russian oligarchs.
1371
01:25:21.810 --> 01:25:24.810
Yeah, they would probably do it in the most covert
1372
01:25:24.869 --> 01:25:27.770
way that they possibly could. There's some kind of roundabout
1373
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:32.920
back channel funding through some shell corporation set up through
1374
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:39.020
some NGO way through some donation center. Because that's how
1375
01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:39.880
they're getting money here.
1376
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:46.180
Is a full industry with supply chains and logistic units and,
1377
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:50.090
you know, basically ways to rate people that were within
1378
01:25:50.130 --> 01:25:52.890
the gate program. So legitimately, it doesn't seem like a
1379
01:25:53.010 --> 01:25:56.130
thing that would just be shut down. If anything, if
1380
01:25:56.170 --> 01:25:58.130
someone said shut it down, that's just giving the signal
1381
01:25:58.170 --> 01:26:02.350
of like, okay, splinter up and become multiple factions, no
1382
01:26:02.390 --> 01:26:06.380
longer have it under some sort of federal guideline where
1383
01:26:06.579 --> 01:26:10.539
it's all trying to achieve one specific goal in in
1384
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:14.340
tandem and coordination with each other. Yeah.
1385
01:26:14.380 --> 01:26:18.369
That's why I would need more information on what it
1386
01:26:18.590 --> 01:26:21.069
is that I was actually doing. Like what, what would
1387
01:26:21.109 --> 01:26:26.289
my department be recruiting for? And then I would decide
1388
01:26:26.409 --> 01:26:30.600
on what, what course of action I would do based
1389
01:26:30.699 --> 01:26:36.579
off of what it is that the agenda is. Because
1390
01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:40.479
just being one of those people in charge, because I
1391
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:45.619
don't believe that that person is in charge of just
1392
01:26:45.739 --> 01:26:50.930
the GATE program, right? The person that is the president
1393
01:26:51.069 --> 01:26:54.350
of all the GATE programs, I don't think that they're
1394
01:26:54.949 --> 01:26:57.779
just in charge of all the GATE programs. They have
1395
01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:01.270
other responsibilities. they got other things going on that they're
1396
01:27:01.310 --> 01:27:04.770
also in charge of that loops in and connects into
1397
01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:07.119
the gate program. So I would have to know all
1398
01:27:07.140 --> 01:27:09.859
of those things as well in order to make an
1399
01:27:10.060 --> 01:27:14.180
educated version of exactly what it is that I would do.
1400
01:27:14.260 --> 01:27:17.550
But I would, I would probably try and do something
1401
01:27:17.619 --> 01:27:20.250
that would like actually help.
1402
01:27:22.029 --> 01:27:22.369
People.
1403
01:27:22.510 --> 01:27:24.449
I mean, and if I could, I would just open
1404
01:27:24.510 --> 01:27:26.689
up a, and if I had to keep doing the
1405
01:27:26.710 --> 01:27:31.220
same thing that, has been being done since as early
1406
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:33.619
as the sixties, you know, the way that things have
1407
01:27:33.659 --> 01:27:36.939
been going. And if I had to keep that, then I,
1408
01:27:37.659 --> 01:27:42.310
I would attempt to open up a wing or a
1409
01:27:42.369 --> 01:27:46.869
section of it that could be some kind of a
1410
01:27:46.989 --> 01:27:51.170
counter operation. If there isn't already some sort of counter operation,
1411
01:27:51.210 --> 01:27:54.739
like what we were talking about there. Because I do
1412
01:27:54.779 --> 01:27:57.840
believe if there is one, then it's probably ran by
1413
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.850
the exact same people, right? Because that's the way that
1414
01:28:01.890 --> 01:28:04.689
you would want to do it. It's not a completely
1415
01:28:04.729 --> 01:28:07.050
separate– it's not the good guys versus the bad guys.
1416
01:28:07.069 --> 01:28:09.109
It's normally the bad guys that are running both sides
1417
01:28:09.149 --> 01:28:11.350
of the equation. They're funding both sides.
1418
01:28:11.369 --> 01:28:14.789
You would start an adversarial unit, meaning not a true adversary,
1419
01:28:14.829 --> 01:28:17.470
but just– set up in opposition to you to kind
1420
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:20.689
of do a red team, blue team thing to figure
1421
01:28:20.750 --> 01:28:22.829
out what the deficiencies are in each other. And I
1422
01:28:23.430 --> 01:28:29.810
guess it would be like a very Hegelian sort of approach, right? Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
1423
01:28:29.850 --> 01:28:32.810
That would kind of be how the two oppositional structures
1424
01:28:32.829 --> 01:28:34.850
will be set up together. But I guess I'm also
1425
01:28:34.909 --> 01:28:39.890
thinking that if there's an altruistic version of this, you know,
1426
01:28:40.130 --> 01:28:44.760
the exact inverse of Stephen King's The Institute where you're
1427
01:28:44.810 --> 01:28:48.020
training kids to crash a plane and takes out, you know,
1428
01:28:48.029 --> 01:28:52.619
these delegates, couldn't you get a room full of Institute
1429
01:28:52.659 --> 01:28:55.819
kids to get like Netanyahu to fall in love with
1430
01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.720
the leaders of Hamas and vice versa and like spread
1431
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.189
love in ways where you're not taking people out, but
1432
01:29:02.210 --> 01:29:05.319
that you're like forcing them to get along.
1433
01:29:08.380 --> 01:29:11.600
Yes. And the only reason that that's not happening is
1434
01:29:11.659 --> 01:29:17.439
because they don't want it to happen. That's the only
1435
01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:21.250
reason that, that anything, that's the reason why good things
1436
01:29:21.289 --> 01:29:23.550
don't happen. That's why we don't have world peace. That's
1437
01:29:23.590 --> 01:29:28.399
why we're not living in some sort of, Freaking utopian society.
1438
01:29:28.500 --> 01:29:30.920
What's the reason we don't have free energy right now?
1439
01:29:30.979 --> 01:29:33.550
It's the reason why we don't have flying cars. It's
1440
01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:35.170
the reason why we don't have any of that shit.
1441
01:29:35.210 --> 01:29:38.550
It's the reason why we're living the exact same type
1442
01:29:38.569 --> 01:29:40.810
of life that we've been living for the past hundred
1443
01:29:40.890 --> 01:29:45.760
freaking years, dude. Nothing has changed besides our technology and
1444
01:29:45.779 --> 01:29:49.000
the way that we communicate. That's the only thing that's changed.
1445
01:29:49.380 --> 01:29:52.890
We're using the same planes. We're using the same vehicles, basically.
1446
01:29:53.210 --> 01:29:55.189
Few things have changed with the vehicles. We got some
1447
01:29:55.250 --> 01:29:57.489
electric cars. But if you go back, we've had electric
1448
01:29:57.510 --> 01:30:00.619
cars for freaking 150 years, bro. They had electric cars
1449
01:30:00.659 --> 01:30:05.920
in the damn World's Fairs, dude. You know, like, you know,
1450
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:08.199
why is it that we've just been held back this
1451
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.270
entire time? And the only reason is because they just
1452
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.229
don't want it to be right. They want to when
1453
01:30:14.270 --> 01:30:19.250
it's beneficial to them, then we'll somehow get. some kind
1454
01:30:19.310 --> 01:30:21.550
of advancement in there, but it's going to be a
1455
01:30:21.609 --> 01:30:27.470
slow drip process. It's exactly like the UFO topic, right?
1456
01:30:27.489 --> 01:30:30.670
That just give you a little drip, drip, a dribble
1457
01:30:30.989 --> 01:30:33.149
right there. Because if we just come out and be like,
1458
01:30:33.210 --> 01:30:35.850
oh yeah, guess what? This is all of our technology.
1459
01:30:35.869 --> 01:30:40.149
And we've had this anti-gravity craft since fricking early fifties.
1460
01:30:40.850 --> 01:30:43.039
We did, we discovered this, we created it. We actually
1461
01:30:43.100 --> 01:30:44.659
had a way back further than that. We've had it
1462
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:49.750
since the airships in the late 1800s. You know, we've
1463
01:30:49.770 --> 01:30:51.439
had this for a long time. And guess what? You
1464
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:54.159
could have had free energy with this technology. Oh, guess what?
1465
01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:57.460
We could have had, you know, all this quantum computing.
1466
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:00.500
Guess what? Everybody could have had access to this technology.
1467
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:03.659
Guess what? Cancer doesn't have to exist. Guess what? You
1468
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:06.409
don't have to have disease. You can be instantly healed
1469
01:31:06.430 --> 01:31:07.170
and instantly cured.
1470
01:31:07.189 --> 01:31:09.829
It's not going to happen.
1471
01:31:10.850 --> 01:31:14.350
But that doesn't mean that it can't. It doesn't mean
1472
01:31:14.390 --> 01:31:16.529
that it could. It definitely could.
1473
01:31:17.300 --> 01:31:19.260
If someone wants to learn more about this, aside from
1474
01:31:19.300 --> 01:31:22.239
watching your movie, obviously, which we'll plug again in a second.
1475
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:26.880
But like, are you familiar with any support groups or
1476
01:31:26.939 --> 01:31:31.819
like after gate program, you know, groups that people get
1477
01:31:31.859 --> 01:31:36.380
together on an individual level and try and like piece together?
1478
01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:39.439
the different parts of this? Because it seems like this
1479
01:31:39.500 --> 01:31:42.640
could easily come together slowly on, like, online forums and
1480
01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:47.960
Xthreads and stuff, but do people actually get together and discover,
1481
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:51.000
you know, like, fill in the blanks? Because, for example,
1482
01:31:51.020 --> 01:31:53.880
when you were talking about the pink and the orange
1483
01:31:53.920 --> 01:31:55.699
drink before, I was like, I don't remember doing any
1484
01:31:55.739 --> 01:31:58.000
kind of drink, but then when you said... No, no.
1485
01:31:58.180 --> 01:32:00.060
Some people would just swish it around and they said
1486
01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:02.130
it was fluoride and they would spit it out. The
1487
01:32:02.170 --> 01:32:05.010
second you said that, I was like, oh, I actually
1488
01:32:05.050 --> 01:32:09.869
remember doing that in school at some point. But like,
1489
01:32:10.189 --> 01:32:13.399
how else would somebody get together and be able to,
1490
01:32:13.409 --> 01:32:16.220
I guess, not quite like a past life regression, but
1491
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.520
sort of a, you know, like a regression process where
1492
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:22.159
you start recalling more and more about your gait experience?
1493
01:32:23.829 --> 01:32:30.250
There are Facebook groups online that people are really respectful in.
1494
01:32:30.409 --> 01:32:32.560
Some of them are private groups that you have to
1495
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:39.479
be invited to. There are a few public ones on there.
1496
01:32:40.020 --> 01:32:42.539
There's a big community of people on TikTok. I don't
1497
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:45.359
really mess with TikTok too much. I don't post on
1498
01:32:45.380 --> 01:32:49.670
there because they deleted my original channel that had millions
1499
01:32:49.710 --> 01:32:55.109
of views and I just never... Got around to really
1500
01:32:55.170 --> 01:32:58.170
building up another one. But TikTok is a really good
1501
01:32:58.210 --> 01:33:01.430
place to communicate with people about the gate programs. And
1502
01:33:01.489 --> 01:33:04.310
it's kind of evolved from there. It's gone into even,
1503
01:33:04.329 --> 01:33:09.220
I mean, the whole thing is like, there's a basement
1504
01:33:09.260 --> 01:33:11.680
to it. There's a trap door to the basement. And
1505
01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:14.859
then there's a trap door to that trap door. And
1506
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:19.420
then there's an underground freaking facility. at the bottom of there.
1507
01:33:19.460 --> 01:33:23.689
And then there's a whole ancient civilization underneath that underground
1508
01:33:23.890 --> 01:33:27.369
city that was built on top of it. That's how
1509
01:33:27.430 --> 01:33:28.949
deep a lot of this stuff goes. And at a
1510
01:33:28.989 --> 01:33:31.750
point I was just like, man, like I can't, I
1511
01:33:31.789 --> 01:33:33.930
can't keep going into the research here. I have to
1512
01:33:34.050 --> 01:33:36.439
just stop and just make this movie or the movie's
1513
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:40.779
never going to get made. I was just drowning in information.
1514
01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.300
But the thing that they've gotten into now is like
1515
01:33:43.340 --> 01:33:47.579
this dream world. And I don't know if there's really
1516
01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.819
connection to the gate program with this or not, but
1517
01:33:51.859 --> 01:33:56.350
people describe having dreams every single night of being in
1518
01:33:56.430 --> 01:34:00.369
a mall called mall world. And they're there with the
1519
01:34:00.409 --> 01:34:03.890
same people and they've mapped it out. They got a
1520
01:34:03.930 --> 01:34:10.489
whole freaking map that they've drew up of mall world
1521
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:13.500
and all the things that are in mall world and
1522
01:34:13.539 --> 01:34:18.090
all the people that they meet there. They don't know
1523
01:34:18.149 --> 01:34:25.359
them in real life. And one girl actually told a
1524
01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:33.340
story of how she basically grew up with these people
1525
01:34:33.420 --> 01:34:38.390
in her dreams. Like she was living a separate reality
1526
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:41.989
from the real reality that she was living in her dreams.
1527
01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:46.840
And she had these childhood friends in her dreams that
1528
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:49.600
she literally grew up with and would dream about every
1529
01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:53.939
single night. Then she stopped dreaming about them for a
1530
01:34:53.970 --> 01:34:57.630
long time. And then she got to this dream where
1531
01:34:57.670 --> 01:35:02.210
she's in a mall. And then finally, these people, these
1532
01:35:02.250 --> 01:35:04.470
two friends that she had grown up with in this
1533
01:35:04.529 --> 01:35:08.770
dream show up at the mall. And we're like, I've
1534
01:35:08.810 --> 01:35:10.550
been looking for you. I don't know where you've been.
1535
01:35:11.170 --> 01:35:14.399
Like all it's like, I'm just like, I don't even know.
1536
01:35:14.409 --> 01:35:16.699
I have no idea. I have no idea what's going
1537
01:35:16.739 --> 01:35:19.560
on with that. Could be related to the gate program.
1538
01:35:19.579 --> 01:35:21.819
People say that it's related to the gate program, but
1539
01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:26.000
I do know that people have really, really, really vivid dreams.
1540
01:35:26.340 --> 01:35:32.800
I actually know this girl that, um, has literally been
1541
01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:37.409
living a completely different reality every day, every night of
1542
01:35:37.449 --> 01:35:41.310
her life. And it's so hard for her to distinguish
1543
01:35:44.649 --> 01:35:50.060
what's real and what's not. Like she's literally living a
1544
01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:55.659
completely separate life every night that she goes to sleep.
1545
01:35:56.010 --> 01:36:00.060
And it's a continuous thing. Like she'll go to sleep
1546
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:04.420
and pick right back off where she left that the
1547
01:36:04.460 --> 01:36:06.989
last day, the last time that she woke up.
1548
01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:08.979
It's insane.
1549
01:36:09.100 --> 01:36:13.439
There's things that's going on with our consciousness that people
1550
01:36:13.939 --> 01:36:18.649
that we haven't even began to explore or try and understand.
1551
01:36:18.779 --> 01:36:21.329
So I don't know if it's connected, but it's definitely interesting.
1552
01:36:22.909 --> 01:36:26.369
I feel like at least one of us is telepathic
1553
01:36:26.890 --> 01:36:30.550
because I was going to ask you. what's the you
1554
01:36:30.590 --> 01:36:34.689
know the longest deepest darkest rabbit hole that you couldn't
1555
01:36:34.750 --> 01:36:37.569
necessarily follow all the way through to the end when
1556
01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:39.220
it comes to the gate program and i would say
1557
01:36:39.260 --> 01:36:42.739
that mall world probably is one of those deep dark
1558
01:36:42.800 --> 01:36:45.539
rabbit holes that could you know consume the rest of
1559
01:36:45.579 --> 01:36:48.739
your life or at least the next documentary that you
1560
01:36:48.810 --> 01:36:51.350
end up putting together could maybe be about more world
1561
01:36:51.409 --> 01:36:52.729
i don't know it depends on how much you care
1562
01:36:52.770 --> 01:36:56.550
about that lucid dream realm i'd I've heard that a
1563
01:36:56.729 --> 01:36:59.590
number of times, and I think that's beyond fascinating that
1564
01:36:59.609 --> 01:37:05.779
there might be some sort of objective another dimension or
1565
01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:09.800
plane where people can relate to each other that if
1566
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:12.060
you think about it, we spend what, like roughly a
1567
01:37:12.140 --> 01:37:16.310
third of our lives asleep. And there's not when we're
1568
01:37:16.350 --> 01:37:18.130
talking about the gate program is where you go to
1569
01:37:18.210 --> 01:37:20.800
school and they bring you into other rooms and give
1570
01:37:20.819 --> 01:37:23.680
you special tests and stuff. But even then, they're not
1571
01:37:23.779 --> 01:37:27.460
necessarily or maybe that's the only version of teaching you
1572
01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:30.260
about how to live in this alternate realm, whether it's
1573
01:37:30.340 --> 01:37:33.659
lucid dreaming or something beyond that. But isn't it isn't
1574
01:37:33.699 --> 01:37:37.890
it wild, though, that. In homeschool, in private school, in
1575
01:37:37.970 --> 01:37:42.109
public school, there's no classes on here's how to lucid dream.
1576
01:37:42.170 --> 01:37:46.770
Here's how to navigate the unconscious world, despite the fact
1577
01:37:46.810 --> 01:37:48.609
that we all spend a third of our lives there.
1578
01:37:51.630 --> 01:37:55.270
It's super fascinating and it blows my mind all the time.
1579
01:37:55.470 --> 01:37:59.449
Like how we do not understand really anything about the
1580
01:37:59.489 --> 01:38:02.729
dream realm. We haven't been told how to navigate it.
1581
01:38:02.789 --> 01:38:06.840
We have absolutely no understanding of it at all. And
1582
01:38:06.899 --> 01:38:10.220
just like you said, we spend most of our lives
1583
01:38:10.500 --> 01:38:15.779
in that realm and we know nothing about it, but
1584
01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:20.079
it's almost like the exact same way as the waking world.
1585
01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:23.310
We don't know where we're from.
1586
01:38:23.310 --> 01:38:24.710
Here either.
1587
01:38:24.710 --> 01:38:28.770
I don't know what this is. All I know is
1588
01:38:28.770 --> 01:38:31.140
I got to wake up and live, right? And I
1589
01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:33.520
got to do my stuff and put together my things.
1590
01:38:33.939 --> 01:38:37.399
I don't know where. Nobody knows where they're from or
1591
01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:42.100
what they're doing here or what the overall arching purpose
1592
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.220
of any of this really is. And that's the biggest
1593
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:48.560
mystery of the life. but it's just like the dream
1594
01:38:48.619 --> 01:38:51.739
realm as well. We don't know what that one's even,
1595
01:38:51.939 --> 01:38:54.960
we're even more in the dark on that one. Is
1596
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:59.100
it a tangent universe? Is it a different reality? Is it,
1597
01:38:59.420 --> 01:39:02.579
is it a possibility that, you know, the string theory
1598
01:39:02.659 --> 01:39:06.789
is correct and that, uh, it's just a separate reality.
1599
01:39:06.829 --> 01:39:09.869
And then, then what if when we die, we just
1600
01:39:09.970 --> 01:39:12.970
go into that other tangent universe or into that other
1601
01:39:13.029 --> 01:39:18.460
tangent reality. Have you ever watched the show? Um, The OA?
1602
01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:23.390
Yeah, the Carlos Castaneda derived OA.
1603
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:25.970
Incredible shot.
1604
01:39:25.989 --> 01:39:30.649
I don't know if it's that.
1605
01:39:30.710 --> 01:39:34.449
The OA, I'm blanking on the specific practice, but in
1606
01:39:34.489 --> 01:39:38.979
the OA, they do these very specific calculated moves where
1607
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:41.869
they like, put their arms together and they're like, and
1608
01:39:41.909 --> 01:39:45.090
what they're doing, man, I wish I could remember the
1609
01:39:45.149 --> 01:39:48.569
name of this practice, but Carlos Castaneda, I think came
1610
01:39:48.630 --> 01:39:50.489
up with this premise. And the whole thing is that
1611
01:39:50.890 --> 01:39:54.630
your body has latent energy. So like in between your fingers,
1612
01:39:55.109 --> 01:39:57.279
energy just kind of builds up and sits there and
1613
01:39:57.319 --> 01:40:00.060
doesn't get used. So in the OA, when they're doing
1614
01:40:00.100 --> 01:40:03.100
these different motions, you'll see what they're doing is they're
1615
01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:07.220
kind of like scooping the energy out of the inside
1616
01:40:07.260 --> 01:40:10.020
of your elbows and in between your fingers and like
1617
01:40:10.340 --> 01:40:13.159
in like the crevices of the physical body, because the
1618
01:40:13.229 --> 01:40:17.149
theory is that in these crevices is where actual spiritual
1619
01:40:17.250 --> 01:40:20.590
energy builds up. So they're kind of like scraping it
1620
01:40:20.670 --> 01:40:22.550
all and harvesting it the same way. If you ran
1621
01:40:22.569 --> 01:40:25.630
through a hash field and you've got trichromes all over
1622
01:40:25.689 --> 01:40:27.949
you and you turn it into hash balls, they're sort
1623
01:40:27.970 --> 01:40:34.109
of doing that at a, telepathic, telekinetic, spiritual level. And
1624
01:40:34.149 --> 01:40:35.520
that's the whole premise of the OA.
1625
01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:39.539
That's really interesting. I didn't know that that was a
1626
01:40:39.579 --> 01:40:41.880
real thing. I thought it was just a TV show.
1627
01:40:42.619 --> 01:40:48.029
But the TV show, the OA, they basically do that
1628
01:40:48.130 --> 01:40:50.590
exact same thing. They do all these weird movements and
1629
01:40:50.609 --> 01:40:54.949
they combine them all together and then they're literally able
1630
01:40:54.989 --> 01:40:57.649
to jump as a group into a different timeline.
1631
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:02.420
So this is like a gate program kind of.
1632
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.720
Sort of. But then it's like, okay, well, you know,
1633
01:41:06.739 --> 01:41:10.399
and then it's like, well, what happens when you, what
1634
01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:12.430
if when you die, you don't even go to it?
1635
01:41:12.619 --> 01:41:17.229
What if you just live the exact same life over
1636
01:41:17.270 --> 01:41:20.090
and over and over again? Right? Like what if, what
1637
01:41:20.130 --> 01:41:24.789
if whenever we die, we just, we just go, we
1638
01:41:24.810 --> 01:41:28.590
just do the exact same thing. again, the exact same life.
1639
01:41:28.609 --> 01:41:34.720
And maybe the goal is to actually remember what it
1640
01:41:34.859 --> 01:41:37.380
is that you're supposed to do in order to make
1641
01:41:37.460 --> 01:41:44.279
the best choices in this life. I don't know.
1642
01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:45.260
It's interesting.
1643
01:41:45.380 --> 01:41:49.239
Something that I've definitely been thinking about here as of late.
1644
01:41:49.880 --> 01:41:51.680
I think people might have it wrong. I think that
1645
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:59.960
that might be the real allure of reincarnation is that
1646
01:42:01.260 --> 01:42:04.949
you don't come back as a completely separate thing and
1647
01:42:05.010 --> 01:42:09.189
living a completely separate life. You can come back and
1648
01:42:09.250 --> 01:42:13.409
do the exact same thing again if you want. And
1649
01:42:13.449 --> 01:42:21.319
that might be the allure of wanting to come back
1650
01:42:21.380 --> 01:42:23.039
in the first place is that you get to do
1651
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:28.800
the exact same thing and make minor changes and somehow
1652
01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:35.720
imprint upon your consciousness in order to remember certain events
1653
01:42:35.819 --> 01:42:39.449
and certain life moments that will give you the best outcome.
1654
01:42:41.970 --> 01:42:46.670
So this might have been like the 200,000th time that
1655
01:42:46.710 --> 01:42:49.770
you've been on here and done this interview. So let
1656
01:42:49.789 --> 01:42:51.149
me ask you for the 200,000 and first time to
1657
01:42:51.180 --> 01:42:57.170
go ahead and tell people where they can find your latest, uh,
1658
01:42:57.270 --> 01:43:00.340
gate movie and everything else. Clockwork shining, just all, all
1659
01:43:00.350 --> 01:43:02.739
of your material. Where should they go and watch it?
1660
01:43:05.170 --> 01:43:07.619
Well, I mean, I think even if you were to
1661
01:43:08.260 --> 01:43:11.899
do the life over again, it doesn't mean that you
1662
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:15.579
end up at the... This could be the first time
1663
01:43:15.619 --> 01:43:17.850
that I ever did a podcast. This could have been
1664
01:43:17.869 --> 01:43:20.630
the first time that I ever became a filmmaker and
1665
01:43:20.670 --> 01:43:25.890
that I have movies on Amazon Prime that you can
1666
01:43:25.949 --> 01:43:30.939
purchase online. The Gate Program, Psychic Agent, The Gate Program
1667
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:33.100
that you can purchase now on Amazon Prime. This might
1668
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:37.180
have been the first time that I've ever done that before.
1669
01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:39.619
It's kind of like, have you ever watched the show From?
1670
01:43:41.100 --> 01:43:44.539
Yes. Very Stephen King-y vibes.
1671
01:43:46.460 --> 01:43:48.920
And Lost and kind of 30 Days of Night.
1672
01:43:48.939 --> 01:43:53.029
Lost is great. Lost in that they always... do these
1673
01:43:53.149 --> 01:43:56.649
weird reveals and if you watch the show long enough
1674
01:43:56.689 --> 01:43:59.170
you're like they're never going to explain this like this
1675
01:43:59.229 --> 01:44:00.289
is just the thing.
1676
01:44:02.449 --> 01:44:07.399
Well in the show from uh they basically uh they
1677
01:44:07.420 --> 01:44:10.180
kind of get it revealed that a lot of the
1678
01:44:10.199 --> 01:44:12.859
people that are stuck inside of the town are have
1679
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:16.119
been there hundreds of times before.
1680
01:44:18.750 --> 01:44:22.390
And they keep going back. Even if they escape, they somehow...
1681
01:44:22.470 --> 01:44:25.100
And I think there's even a subplot that they haven't
1682
01:44:25.180 --> 01:44:28.859
fully developed, but that this might be a military operation
1683
01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:33.340
because they were using radio frequencies and they were able
1684
01:44:33.380 --> 01:44:35.710
to pick up some kind of military transmission.
1685
01:44:39.489 --> 01:44:42.510
So in the last season of the show that came
1686
01:44:42.569 --> 01:44:44.949
out this year, it's not the final season, but it's
1687
01:44:45.029 --> 01:44:48.699
the latest one to release. The man in yellow, which
1688
01:44:48.779 --> 01:44:50.779
is the one that's kind of in charge of all
1689
01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:57.079
of the vampire creatures, encounters Tabitha and is basically like.
1690
01:44:59.510 --> 01:45:02.510
You've done a lot all the many times that you've
1691
01:45:02.550 --> 01:45:07.149
been here. You've done a lot of things, but this
1692
01:45:07.229 --> 01:45:12.729
is the first time that you've ever wanted to destroy
1693
01:45:12.770 --> 01:45:16.189
the tree. You know what I mean? So finally, they're
1694
01:45:16.210 --> 01:45:20.899
doing something that is different than what they've been doing
1695
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:24.520
this entire time. The hundreds of other times that they've
1696
01:45:24.539 --> 01:45:28.390
been there, they're finally... they're finally getting something and doing
1697
01:45:28.439 --> 01:45:31.100
something different. So something has changed, but I don't know.
1698
01:45:31.180 --> 01:45:33.239
That's just my theory and something that I'm working on now.
1699
01:45:33.859 --> 01:45:37.960
People are interested. Please check out my documentaries on Amazon prime.
1700
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:41.479
You can find the gate program, a psychic agent, the
1701
01:45:41.500 --> 01:45:44.279
gate program on Amazon prime. You can rent it or
1702
01:45:44.340 --> 01:45:46.520
purchase it there. You can also check out a clockwork
1703
01:45:46.539 --> 01:45:51.260
shining at Kubrick's odyssey three on Amazon prime to be and, uh,
1704
01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:54.260
Apple TV and JFK solving the crime of the century, uh,
1705
01:45:54.789 --> 01:45:58.869
also on Amazon Prime and Tubi as well, for free
1706
01:45:58.930 --> 01:46:01.310
on there as well. And if you'd like to reach
1707
01:46:01.369 --> 01:46:04.939
out to me personally, you can find me at RaisedByGiantsPod
1708
01:46:05.380 --> 01:46:11.460
on Instagram, RaisedByGiants8 on Twitter X and RaisedByGiants on Facebook
1709
01:46:11.539 --> 01:46:14.239
and follow me on YouTube at RaisedByGiants on any and
1710
01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:18.119
all podcast platforms. And if you would like a DVD
1711
01:46:18.140 --> 01:46:21.449
copy of the movie, Psychic Agent, you can reach out
1712
01:46:21.470 --> 01:46:25.979
to me at raised by giants at outlook.com. And I
1713
01:46:26.020 --> 01:46:30.220
can get a DVD physical copy, mail it out to you. Uh,
1714
01:46:30.739 --> 01:46:33.439
if you would like, if you're into physical media, I
1715
01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:36.539
think physical media is making a comeback. Uh, as soon
1716
01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:40.000
as you don't have access to things anymore, people all
1717
01:46:40.020 --> 01:46:42.159
of a sudden want them. So, uh, I think physical
1718
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:44.010
media is going to come back. So if you'd like
1719
01:46:44.020 --> 01:46:46.739
to get a physical DVD copy, just send me an
1720
01:46:46.850 --> 01:46:49.350
email at raised by giants at outlook.com. Thanks so much
1721
01:46:49.369 --> 01:46:52.609
for having me on brother. Brilliant and wonderful conversation.
1722
01:46:53.750 --> 01:46:56.130
Likewise, man, I always like having you on because not
1723
01:46:56.270 --> 01:47:00.250
only do you bring up really interesting topics and you
1724
01:47:00.310 --> 01:47:02.109
shed like new light on them. It's not just like
1725
01:47:02.149 --> 01:47:04.460
a regurgitation of things that you've heard a million times,
1726
01:47:05.060 --> 01:47:07.859
but you truly go the distance, man. You know, like
1727
01:47:07.899 --> 01:47:11.420
you you will sort of exhaust all the different angles
1728
01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:14.800
until you run into a dream mall. And then you're like, OK,
1729
01:47:14.819 --> 01:47:17.220
I found at least the seam of the thing I
1730
01:47:17.260 --> 01:47:20.739
was focused on. And here's where that seems. I absolutely
1731
01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:24.300
love that. As a self-plug here, I've got a show
1732
01:47:24.380 --> 01:47:28.439
called Under the Docks, and we have reviewed all of
1733
01:47:28.500 --> 01:47:32.850
the Kubrick's Odyssey, including recently we did Clockwork Shining. So
1734
01:47:32.869 --> 01:47:36.029
if you want to see if we praise or trash
1735
01:47:36.789 --> 01:47:40.170
that documentary from Ryder Lee and Jay Widener, spoiler alert,
1736
01:47:40.189 --> 01:47:43.970
we both loved it. I can't hold you in suspense,
1737
01:47:44.050 --> 01:47:46.250
but if you want to go and check that out,
1738
01:47:46.289 --> 01:47:48.789
you can go and see what me and Sean Chris
1739
01:47:48.829 --> 01:47:52.869
from Kill the Mockingbirds podcast did. think about that entire sequence.
1740
01:47:53.010 --> 01:47:55.689
And I'm sure we're going to be covering the gate
1741
01:47:55.979 --> 01:47:58.180
movie pretty soon on under the docks as well. So
1742
01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:00.319
I don't know if it would skew the bias. If
1743
01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:03.140
we had you on for an episode to review your
1744
01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:06.699
own movie, but we'll see maybe in the future to,
1745
01:48:06.779 --> 01:48:09.699
to talk about that again on another platform for a
1746
01:48:09.699 --> 01:48:12.409
whole nother group of people. So if you find anything interesting,
1747
01:48:12.449 --> 01:48:15.430
go and search for under the docks and paranoid American
1748
01:48:15.590 --> 01:48:18.979
and rider lee and raised by giants uh everywhere you
1749
01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:22.460
can rider man thank you so much for another fascinating
1750
01:48:22.500 --> 01:48:24.380
conversation thanks.
1751
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:26.060
So much brother really appreciate it let's do it again
1752
01:48:26.100 --> 01:48:26.939
sometime soon.
1753
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:39.539
Just buy something Just buy something. From Paranoia American. Just
1754
01:48:39.640 --> 01:48:41.239
buy something.
1755
01:48:48.510 --> 01:48:48.579
Bye.
1756
01:48:48.590 --> 01:48:48.770
Bye.
1757
01:48:48.869 --> 01:48:49.069
Bye.
1758
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:19.560
Just buy something.
1759
01:49:18.619 --> 01:49:26.779
From Paranoid American Just buy something.
1760
01:49:26.899 --> 01:49:30.270
Just buy something.
1761
01:49:29.310 --> 01:49:35.430
From Paranoid American Paranoid Yo Yo.
1762
01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:45.100
I scribble my life away, driven to write the page.
1763
01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:47.470
Will it enlighten your brain? Give you the flight, my
1764
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:51.609
plane paper, the highs ablaze. Somewhat of an amazing feel.
1765
01:49:51.649 --> 01:49:54.489
When it's real to real, you will engage it. Your favorite,
1766
01:49:54.550 --> 01:49:57.189
of course, the lord of an arrangement. I gave you
1767
01:49:57.229 --> 01:50:00.989
the proper results to hit the pavement. If they get emotional, hey,
1768
01:50:01.010 --> 01:50:03.670
maybe your language, a game. How they playing it well
1769
01:50:03.729 --> 01:50:06.439
without lay. Cause evade them, whatever the cost.
1770
01:50:06.479 --> 01:50:07.520
They out of shape.
1771
01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:10.199
Snakes get decapitated, mad as the apex.
1772
01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:14.659
Execution of flame, you out nuclear bomb Distributed at war,
1773
01:50:14.779 --> 01:50:17.699
rather gruesome for eyes to see Maxim out then I
1774
01:50:17.739 --> 01:50:20.220
light my trees Blow it off in the face, you're
1775
01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:21.779
despising me for what though?
1776
01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:25.939
Calculated and rather cutthroat Paranoid American must be all the
1777
01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:28.699
blood smoke for real Lord give me a day away,
1778
01:50:28.739 --> 01:50:33.380
vacate They wait around to hate whatever they say Matters not.
1779
01:50:33.220 --> 01:50:34.979
In the least bit, we get.
1780
01:50:34.920 --> 01:50:37.899
Heavy rotate when a beat hits So thank us you well,
1781
01:50:37.939 --> 01:50:41.310
fuck the niggas for real You're welcome They ain't never
1782
01:50:41.350 --> 01:50:42.869
had a deal. You're welcome.
1783
01:50:43.380 --> 01:50:45.619
Man, they lacking a pill. You're welcome.
1784
01:50:46.119 --> 01:50:47.430
Yet they doing it still.
1785
01:50:47.670 --> 01:50:48.289
You're welcome.