Visions Vol. 2 Ep 7 and Transformers G1: "The Girl Who Loved Powerglide"

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How long have you been recording for?
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Don't worry about it.
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Oh, actually, I'll just tell the story afterward.
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He's just waiting for the part where we can start the podcast.
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He's waiting for the joke he can use.
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Yeah, he's trying to figure out which...
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And there it is.
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It's Wednesday night. We're now at Rachel's house. We are back in my apartment for the
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second week in a row. And normally, this is the part where I would introduce my co-host by making
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her say, this is Rebels and Robots where we talk about Star Wars and...
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Transformers.
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And I'm Cameron.
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Every single time. I'm Rachel.
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And I'm Caleb.
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Oh my gosh, a third voice on the podcast.
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In case you guys didn't know, we actually have more friends than just each other.
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If you don't include cat meowing and sneezing...
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That's our supervisor. She's not our friend.
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I'm saying this is the fourth voice. If you don't include that, this is the third voice
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to ever show up on the podcast. It's our good friend, Caleb. Probably our number two fan
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after Megan, which...
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Offended.
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I don't know. You read it. You listen more consistently, though.
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I have, but I'm bad because I haven't left a review, even though you've asked me to.
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Do you review any of the podcasts?
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You can do your review live right now or we can save it for the very end.
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Well, I asked for more cat content and I got it the next week,
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so you guys are pretty responsive on that.
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We live to serve.
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Athena must read the comment or something because that was all her.
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She actually runs the Twitter.
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That's her.
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And so this is our weekly chat.
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I already said it that we're talking about Star Wars and Transformers.
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Very Star Wars episode, heavy episode again.
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As every episode.
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The final three parts of Star Wars Visions 2, but we will briefly chat about a episode
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of Transformers G1 that we talked about, watched today. Caleb's first ever.
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So we'll get his initial impressions on that first experience.
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Live Caleb reaction.
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But of course, we always start off with news, recent thoughts,
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anything that's happened in the last week. Rachel, do you have anything?
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Yeah. So as we learned from Star Wars Celebration, there were some new movies
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coming out, one of which is Dave Filoni's new movie that's going to take place between
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six and seven as a standalone film and tie up a lot of the Mandalorian plot lines.
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And so the titles come out and it's called Air to the Empire.
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Is this official?
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I've not seen this officially.
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I've seen multiple sources talk about it.
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I mean, it wouldn't be, it's not too surprising, so it's not super controversial.
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Caleb, are you aware of Air to the Empire?
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Not even a little bit.
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So is that the name of the first book of the whole trilogy?
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I believe so.
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It's the trilogy of books that's like the original, effectively seven, eight, nine,
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as far as the books are concerned.
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That is the most popular expanded universe trilogy of books after episode six.
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That's always what people point to as like the further adventures of
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Luke, Leia and Han and their kids.
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There's lots of different adventures there, but that is the one everyone loves.
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That's where Gran Admiral Thrawn comes from,
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who was then repurposed as a main villain in the Rebels cartoon.
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Mr. Thrawn.
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But who I have conceptualized for the entirety of the series as a Prawn, the Shrimp Man.
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Oh my gosh.
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Thrawn the Prawn.
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Can I see a picture of him?
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Well, now I got like Google search there.
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Well, he's not a shrimp.
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I'm a little disappointed.
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He's no, he's not.
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He's really not a shrimp, but a man can hope.
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And well, we've got a couple of different versions of Thrawn the Prawn here.
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This is probably the best possible one.
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I hate this a lot.
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But if you just Google search listeners, if you just Google search Thrawn the Prawn,
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you get plenty of fun drawings.
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This one's great.
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Is this the thumbnail for the video?
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Look at the photo.
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Go over one more.
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This one?
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Yeah.
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Oh, that is the worst.
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That one's using his body and putting a prawn head on it.
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Someone actually took a shrimp.
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Oh, horrifying.
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This one is just a blue prawn.
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That's a tattoo.
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It just keeps going.
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Very good.
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So good.
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What a gold mine of content we have not mined for this podcast.
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Google search something stupid and see what shows up.
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It's a dangerous thing to do, Cameron.
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I'm glad to know I'm not the only person who thought that he was a prawn the whole time.
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I more thought he should be a prawn.
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Grand Admiral Prawn.
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Grand Admiral.
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Him and Ackbar could have a buddy cop show together and it's the undersea adventures.
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Oh my gosh.
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The undersea adventures of Prawn and Ackbar.
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Yeah.
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And Mandalorian, of course, because he's going to be in the show.
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Captain Prawn.
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Captain Crawdad too.
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Captain?
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I'm going to do Prawn.
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Throw in.
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You start throwing in sea creatures.
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Yeah, shellfish.
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Anyways, they've already name dropped the phrase, Air of the Empire, in the trailer
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for the Ahsoka show, which we know takes place after episode six.
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And we'll have thrown in it.
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And we know that the creators of that show are making a movie at some point that will
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bring together all the storylines from the various Disney plus TV shows.
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Oh, yeah.
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And so if that movie is called Air of the Empire,
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we won't be surprised, but I've not seen it officially confirmed.
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Also, as we are pretty well aware, a lot of studios will change what they're
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planned if the internet guesses a thing.
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So it's possible that was going to be the title.
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Now that it's been leaked, I can see Filoni out of spite, change the title of the film.
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He could change it to something to throw off the scent, maybe.
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You could call it something like Blue Harvest, perhaps.
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Because they are going to harvest his blue skin and for various purposes.
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For the shrimp gumbo.
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Very good.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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So anyways, moving on.
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I have a screenshot here from an article.
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And so, Freddie Prinze Jr. actor from the nineties.
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I have the same exact name.
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Most people probably know him for playing live action Freddie
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in the two live action Scooby-Doo's movies.
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That's exactly where I thought.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So that's where you know I'm from.
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So you know who I'm talking about.
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Yes.
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He is also the voice of a popular Star Wars character named Kanan
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from the Star Wars Rebels cartoon.
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His full name is Kanan Jarrus.
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Excuse you.
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Also known as Caleb Dune.
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Doom.
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Doom.
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I'm sorry, Caleb Doom.
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The story behind the bit I've heard on the podcast.
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And that's my only reference to this guy.
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Someone named Caleb.
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That's something we actually said in real life
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and then realized that we know someone named Caleb.
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It's so funny.
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We're like, oh gosh, imagine being named Caleb
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and immediately went, oh.
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And so maybe this guest appearance is just a retribution for that.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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Precisely.
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Sorry, apology.
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Precisely.
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And so he's the Jedi of the show, at least initially.
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And then there's a second Jedi very quickly.
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But he, spoiler alert, dies at the end of the show
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towards the end of season four.
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Season four Rebels spoilers.
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And he sacrifices himself.
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So it's a very noble and very emotional end.
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It's pretty much the final catalyst for all the characters
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to make the final push and have victory towards the end of the show.
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Side tangent.
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It's very important to note that on my first watch through of Rebels,
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I was midway through season four.
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This is what started Star Wars night.
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Because Cameron texted me, he goes,
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hey, have you finished Rebels yet?
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And I was like, no, not at all.
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And Cameron goes, we should watch the rest of season four.
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And I was like, okay.
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And we sat down to watch it.
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And the first episode is that Jedi night episode.
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The first episode we watched together.
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We watched together.
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And so we know that the live action Ahsoka series
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is going to bring back live action versions
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of all of the Rebels characters that are alive canonically
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at the end of season four of Rebels.
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What has not been in any way confirmed is canon somehow returning.
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He did briefly return.
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You hear his voice at the end of episode nine
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when Rey is about to die and she hears all the Jedi voices in her head.
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Canon's voice is mixed in there.
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He also reprised the character in the first episode of Bad Batch
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as a young Jedi during Order 36.
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So he has played the character twice in some form since his death.
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One after one before.
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So he was recently asked if he would be in the Ahsoka show.
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And this is what he said.
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I was asked to voice Kanan in the Bad Batch.
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I feel like every time you hear Kanan's voice since Rebels ended,
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it really kind of dilutes his impact.
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I didn't want to do episode nine either.
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I was asked as a favor, but I feel like all their favors are used now.
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Interviewer.
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So no Ahsoka.
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Prince Jr.
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No Ahsoka.
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I'm done with Kanan.
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I'm too old for that stuff.
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Now, there's two paths you can interpret this quote.
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One, if you've ever seen an interview with Prince Jr.
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He's a very sassy boy.
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He goes mouthing off.
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He spread something that was just blatantly untrue.
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I don't know if he even thought it was true or not about Dave Filoni,
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one of the creators of the Clone Wars directing the Vader hallway scene in Rogue One.
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It just wasn't true.
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He said that.
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It wasn't true.
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He'll go off making fun of people's interpretations of the Clone Wars.
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He's great.
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I love him.
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So this is very much in line with the way he would behave.
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But also, Daniel Craig famously said he would have nothing to do with Star Wars.
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And this was well after he had already shot a role in episode seven as a stormtrooper.
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So that was when he was asked about Star Wars, he dismissed it and said he would never do it
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and said he hated Star Wars.
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And it was a way of throwing people off the trail.
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So I can definitely see that as well as they're trying to protect this.
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They haven't announced it yet.
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So if he is indeed in the show, it would be a big surprise.
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I can see him saying this is a way to throw people off.
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But I can also see him having this being his true feelings as well.
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Rachel, what do you think?
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Did you read the rest of the quote?
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No, I guess not.
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This is a bit condensed.
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He goes, I'm too old for that stuff.
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I grew up watching Star Trek more anyways.
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They had sex in Star Trek, man.
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Nobody's getting laid in Star Wars.
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Wow.
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Yeah, this article is hysterical considering, first of all, the end of Rebels.
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No.
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Okay.
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Caleb just gave me a very wide eyed look.
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For context.
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There's a time jump and himself, his character Kanan and another character have a child.
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So there's an implication of procreation, but nothing is seen on screen.
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And or.
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The listeners should know just how very ignorant I am of all Star Wars content.
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I am just the least qualified person.
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After the new segment, I was going to have you give some background on your relationship
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to all this nonsense.
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The thing is that I just read that quote and I didn't even watch any of it.
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I can hear Freddie Prince Jr. saying that.
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Like in my head.
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Maybe it's like a Harrison Ford kind of a thing or like he just grouts you the entire time.
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But then once they add enough zeros to the end of the check, he comes back.
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And that's what they want.
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I would love the idea of Freddie Prince Jr. being the new Harrison Ford in Star Wars.
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Except for he just, he goes on.
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He's gone way too deep on interviews.
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Like whereas people ask Harrison, like I think famously after episode nine,
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when he briefly appeared, someone asked him if he was a force ghost.
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And he just said, I don't know what that is.
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Freddie Prince Jr. couldn't pass for that.
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He's already shown that he knows way too much about Star Wars.
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They kidnapped him off the side of the street and brought him onto the set
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and wouldn't let him leave until he did his two minute cameo with Adam.
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I think in the interviews I've seen Harrison Ford gets along well with Adam Driver.
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Yes. Yeah.
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I'd like to think everyone gets along well with Adam Driver,
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except for Edward Norton, who's notoriously just bad to work with.
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Have they been in a movie together?
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I don't know if they have.
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I feel like they wouldn't get along though.
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I thought you just asked Caleb if he was in a movie together.
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Oh, you've been in a movie with him?
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What have you been doing this past year?
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Well, you know, Edward Norton famously is in the local film scene.
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We don't live in.
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I can mute that if you want.
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I'll mute it.
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I'll mute both instances just because it'll be funny and I'll leave this bit in.
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So Caleb before, so what bits do we not do?
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Typically last names in geographical locations.
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Also, Caleb.
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What words should we not say on the pod?
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Swear words and any identifying information.
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Speaking of identifying information, I got one more bit since I'm already at it.
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Oh gosh.
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Dave Filoni is extremely similar to my contract professor.
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Is it a hat?
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Just like the name, it sounds extremely similar,
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which maybe means I'm sidestepping the route.
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It sounds similar.
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I'm not saying what part sounds similar.
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However, you should know that this guy, this professor, oh my goodness.
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He was like just the most authentic of our professors.
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Like every emotion that we felt as a student, he just would like nail all the time.
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Like we sat on a zoom call at the very end of the semester
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and it's like our last time to study before the test and he's like,
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why are you guys here?
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Do you guys think like there's some secret sauce or something?
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Do you think like you're just gonna get rid of people or something?
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Like go play outside or something.
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It's nice out.
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What are you guys doing here?
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So yeah, he would frequently call us out.
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So every time you've said,
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Dave Filoni on this podcast, that's immediately where my mind goes.
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Fun.
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And we love that professor.
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So shout out to him who he will never listen to this podcast.
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There's no way he has no interest in Star Wars or Transformers.
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But I can't say the words Yukon Husky and we have a chance that he might listen.
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Oh, interesting.
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Well, that would, I mean, Filoni, Dave Filoni is obsessed with wolves
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and wolves and Huskies are pretty similar.
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So there seems to be a common thread there.
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He does like wolves.
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Anyways, what other news you got, Rachel?
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Um, so this wasn't necessarily news, but I went home this past weekend for Mother's Day
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and I was talking with my mom and we watched a couple episodes of Mandalorian season three
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and my mom brought up and she, she was actually shocked that I couldn't remember
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if we'd talked about this on the pod.
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This was from, uh, I think it was episode, chapter 20 of season three, um, where
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the armor is monologuing to Grogu and we get, you know, of course the infamous order 60 16.
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Sure.
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Um, and so my mom, uh, Mom was like, my mom was actually gobsmacked that I don't remember
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picking up on this.
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Uh, my mom mentioned that, you know, the armor is talking this whole time of how the forge
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reveals flaws.
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Um, she's the armor says the forge reveals our flaws and she starts monologuing and then
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monologuing.
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And so I'm, uh, and so, you know, Grogu gets his order 66 flashbacks and my mom made this
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comment that she took that as Grogu scene, his order 66 memories while the armor is talking
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about this.
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Um, and she took that as Grogu scene, his helplessness as a flaw.
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Interesting.
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Which is not something I picked up on.
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I think we, I think when we watched it, we were like, here's Dave Filoni's order 66 scene.
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Sure.
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And we were kind of, I think sidetracked by Ahmed best.
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Um, but I thought that was pretty interesting because I don't remember picking up on that.
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Um, I saw that that was kind of cool.
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Yeah, that is, that is interesting.
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Um, I totally miss that line of dialogue.
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So that's fascinating.
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And we get so little because of the lack of dialogue for Grogu, we don't get a real sense
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of his interiority very much.
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So he pretty much has very base emotions, sad, hungry, violence, kind of like, like very
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moderate anger, very like he can almost kill people, but it's very frequently just out
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of like, I don't really like you being around anymore.
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It was also funny because my mom forgot for a moment, forgot what the armor was called
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and just said whatever her name is the Smithy or sometimes really, it was really funny.
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It was very, very amusing.
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Um, I really just have one more thing.
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If you don't have anything.
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Yeah, I don't have any other news.
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Okay.
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So I'm going to be honest.
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I haven't played, uh, Star Wars Jedi survivor since, probably since before last Friday.
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Because, uh, tears of the tears of the King came out.
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And so, uh, did I, I forgot the back burner while I play that.
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Um, but so I did meet one of the greatest Star Wars characters.
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I said, I just sent a picture of him to camera and his name is scuba.
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Stev.
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He's a great man.
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I was going to play some clip.
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I'm not going to play the whole three minutes, but you can spend like five minutes just talking
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to this NPC.
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Yeah.
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Really small.
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All right.
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All right.
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There we go.
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That, that, that's it.
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Scuba recruited after you speak to him.
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Just a little guy.
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He's a fisherman and you can talk to him and he will tell you fishing stories.
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What a fantastic, he's so good.
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He's the best.
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NPC, if anything happens to him, I'm going full Sith.
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No mercy.
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Now you both have played the first game.
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Is there a lot of content like that in the first game?
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We just interact with NPCs?
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Oh gosh, not nearly as much.
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No, no, not, not really at all.
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So maybe, maybe a couple of NPCs you can talk to like on your ship and it's once you can
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talk to all the NPCs multiple times enough to the there's so much in this game that I'm
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honestly almost kind of overwhelmed by how much there is to do.
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I got my first side quest and I was stunned.
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I was like, there's multiple.
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Oh, Caleb, how does this make you feel someone who completed the first game?
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Does this interest you in playing the second one?
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You know, if I just had any time at all for video games, yeah, maybe.
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Now hear me out.
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You can give Cal a mullet.
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Oh, that definitely changes the opinion of the game.
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Can I do just anything else in that game?
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Yeah, there's a lot of hairstyles.
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And then my interest still remains fairly interested now.
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And you can choose his beard length and his clothing.
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You could customize this man up the wazoo.
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I didn't realize that Cal Kestis could have a beard.
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That certainly intrigues me into playing this game.
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You can put him in a full beard and it's honestly kind of jarring because
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like was Cameron Monahue?
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Yeah.
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I'm just like,
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He is a baby faced man.
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The stubble looks really great.
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The full beard looks, I think because I'm so used to seeing
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regular Cal in the marketing when I see full beard Cal, it's like, I'm like, ah, jump scare.
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I did see a very funny comment where someone, gosh, I can never remember his name.
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He plays Adam Warlock in the New Guardians movie.
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He played Eustace in The Dawn Treader.
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Oh, someone made a comment and I think I have to look this up or it's going to drive me nuts.
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He's famously known as Eyebrows Man.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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He's got some very good eyebrows.
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Will Poulter.
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I saw this funny tweet where someone was like, oh my gosh, if they do a live action,
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Cal Kestis, they need to have Will Poulter.
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They look so much alike.
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And all of the comments were
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Cameron Monahue.
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The actual man who plays him.
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And I don't think the person who posted it realized that Cal actually has a real...
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His model after a real person.
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Yes.
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I, while I was watching Guardians 3, I was sitting there thinking, this guy has got a
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really good week.
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He's the star of Star Wars Jedi Survivor and he's a major character in Guardians 3.
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After a while I was like, I'm actually not sure if this is the same guy.
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It's not.
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It took me a while to figure, I had to look it up to confirm.
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I've never pieced those two guys together as the same person, but now that you mentioned
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it, they are very similar.
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Yes.
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It's the hair.
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Yes.
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It is the hair and the brow.
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There's only so many famous gingers.
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And they're about the same age.
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What other news you got, Rachel?
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That's it.
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Okay.
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Well, before we move on, I would like for Caleb to introduce himself by just,
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what is your relationship to all this nonsense we're talking about?
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My name is Caleb and I am, I mean, I'm so busy right now.
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I'm a law student somewhere that I can't talk and that eats up just all of my time.
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And so I am good, good friends with the hosts.
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You don't want this following you into your professional career.
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And this podcast main purpose, not necessarily purpose, but
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lasting legacy will be a black mark on all of our resumes.
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That's all right.
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I'll definitely take it.
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Yeah.
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I'm just good, good friends with the hosts.
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And I am just a very general nerd.
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I have lots of knowledge about a lot of nerdy things, but man, I just do not have the depth
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of these guys.
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So I am in this instance, very much an outsider to all of this.
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In fact, when it comes to all of the Star Wars TV shows, I've seen exactly none of them.
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And so my only point of reference to any of this world outside of the visions that I've
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watched in preparation for today's episode is just the earlier episodes of this podcast
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and your guys descriptions of these episodes.
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So that's why I could go so long thinking that Admiral Theron was a prawn the whole time.
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And I could just live in a happy world.
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He just acknowledged it.
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I'm sorry that we shattered that universe for you.
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Maybe you could create some fan art as you imagined him.
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It looks like the internet's already done it for me.
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We'll make it a temporary.
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He better be the thumbnail.
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That's all I'm saying.
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Yeah, temporary thumbnail.
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What is your relationship to Star Wars?
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I have seen all of the movies.
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I have talked extensively about my thoughts on the movies.
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And I think that I'm an original Trilogy's guy.
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I think that's the best of the lot.
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I think that Star Wars is astonishing for the amount of poor content that comes out
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and the amount of love that it still receives.
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Can I say that in Star Wars podcast?
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I'm not even sure if I can.
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But generally I like it.
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I think there's a lot of flaws with it.
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But I love, I think I'll get into this more with when we actually tackle the visions episodes.
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But one of my biggest things I love is I love getting sucked into the worlds.
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I love this whole, like seeing a very livable world put out on screen.
500
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,920
So I love that.
501
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,920
I love just the rich world building that can go on and all of that.
502
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,920
So I appreciate all of that.
503
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,920
And like I said, I enjoy the original Trilogy the best.
504
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,920
And I think there's certain things that are also interesting happening in the rest of them.
505
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:22,920
Well I look forward to hearing how these Star Wars visions shorts have played into your interest of Star Wars or not.
506
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,920
What about Transformers?
507
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,920
Just so very little exposure to Transformers.
508
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,920
What would you say is your biggest exposure to Transformers?
509
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,920
My biggest exposure is probably the Bayformers.
510
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,920
Unfortunate.
511
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,920
And I haven't even seen all of those.
512
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,920
That's a good thing though.
513
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,920
I've definitely seen the first one.
514
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,920
Parts of it.
515
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,920
I've seen Revenge of the Fallen.
516
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,920
Definitely I think.
517
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:54,920
And then you could point to everything else after that and I could not tell you one from another.
518
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,920
I've seen maybe a collective 45 minutes of everything else.
519
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,920
But I have just no point of reference for what it was.
520
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920
And then I've seen lots of people make fun of them.
521
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,920
So that's awesome.
522
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,920
Didn't we watch Bumblebee?
523
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,920
No I wasn't there for the Bumblebee watch.
524
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,920
I thought you were.
525
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,920
No so I have not seen Bumblebee.
526
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,920
So I haven't even seen the good Transformers.
527
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,920
No.
528
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,920
So as you can see I'm just the most qualified guest you could possibly have on this podcast.
529
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:34,920
And so that transitions nicely into the first topic of the day which is discussing a classic episode of the original Star Wars Transformers cartoon.
530
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,920
Which is Caleb's first ever watching of any episode.
531
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,920
What's the name of this episode Rachel?
532
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,920
You picked it.
533
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,920
I did pick it.
534
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,920
The Girl Who Loved Power Glide.
535
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,920
And I'm going to be upfront.
536
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,920
When we were trying to decide how we were going to incorporate some of the Transformers G1 episodes in.
537
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,920
Because we're trying to decide do we really want to sit through 60 episodes of this thing?
538
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,920
And you said here's the thing. Pick out some good ones.
539
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,920
This is the first one that I thought of.
540
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,920
The first immediate one that I went we have to watch this one.
541
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,920
It's been on my playlist for a while.
542
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Okay and what was the name?
543
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,920
The Girl Who Loved Power Glide.
544
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,920
Okay yeah sorry.
545
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,920
I'm making a dumb meme while you're talking.
546
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,920
That I will share later in meme minute.
547
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,920
But it's longer than a minute.
548
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Meme master, second meme, parsec.
549
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:42,920
And what would you say is the main concept of this episode Rachel that you forced us to watch?
550
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,920
First of all.
551
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,920
Forced?
552
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,920
No. I told you.
553
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,920
First of all I like to put it on record.
554
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,920
Write this down.
555
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,920
I'm writing this down.
556
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,920
This is going to be notarized.
557
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,920
I'm not a notary but I will write it down.
558
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,920
I'm writing a list and I said do you want me to list the names?
559
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,920
And you said no. Surprise me.
560
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,920
Hey we all make mistakes.
561
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,920
That's true.
562
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,920
Multiple times actually she asked for Cameron's opinion.
563
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,920
He said surprise me.
564
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,920
I was like are you sure I have like three good ones?
565
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,920
What do you want?
566
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,920
Don't tell me. Just let me know.
567
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:24,920
So the main plot of this is so we focus on really kind of I think up until the season secondary.
568
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,920
Almost possibly tertiary character Powerglide.
569
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,920
He's an Autobot.
570
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,920
He's red. He's a jet.
571
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,920
And so he ends up.
572
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,920
It surprised me. I thought the Autobots were all on the ground all the time.
573
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,920
You were wrong for a lot of reasons.
574
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,920
One, they trans over to all sorts of vehicles.
575
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,920
Two, they can all fly when it's convenient for them.
576
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,920
At least in G1.
577
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,920
They can also drown when needed to.
578
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,920
They seem fine at the end of the episode.
579
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,920
They're doing fine.
580
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920
So Powerglide saves a girl named Astoria.
581
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Is that really? I thought it was Historia the entire time.
582
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Astoria.
583
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,920
I need to bring that to my VB.
584
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,920
Astoria.
585
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:08,920
Astoria who is the heiress of a tech giant company after her father died and the Scepticons want the secret tech formula.
586
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,920
The secret Krabby Patty formula.
587
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,920
I don't know.
588
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,920
And so the whole episode is kind of a game of cat and mouse.
589
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:26,920
Of Powerglide trying to return her and the Scepticons trying to capture her.
590
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,920
I think it's really more of a story of a girl who's looking for a good burger.
591
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Which I can sympathize with that.
592
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,920
At some points I can sympathize with her in Equestria Burger.
593
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,920
She's got the hots for Powerglide.
594
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Which is something I cannot sympathize with.
595
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,920
And for me this is a standout element of the episode.
596
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,920
You have to describe these two characters.
597
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,920
One, Powerglide sounds like classic Infector Gadget.
598
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Yes.
599
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,920
He talks like a 1930s hardboiled detective.
600
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Very good. Yes, exactly.
601
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,920
I was thinking like a carnival barker kind of a thing but I think you know that I'm a detective.
602
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920
I think we might need to play a clip.
603
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Let me see if I can find a clip of his voice.
604
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,920
You should do the clip where they're standing under the...
605
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,920
The interstate bridge a couple minutes in.
606
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,920
And the... I've already forgotten her name.
607
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,920
Astoria.
608
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Astoria.
609
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920
How would you describe her?
610
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Not consistently.
611
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,920
She is like land, she is just fluctuating.
612
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Not even seen the scene.
613
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,920
She's like every few minutes her emotion is kind of changing.
614
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Her inflection is not.
615
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920
Her inflection is a little delayed.
616
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,920
My dad died.
617
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Oh yeah, the best line delivery in the episode.
618
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,920
We should play that.
619
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,920
I'm trying to find her voice actress.
620
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Maybe she doesn't want to be known.
621
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,920
I don't think she's credited on IMDB at least.
622
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Maybe she does not want to be known.
623
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Maybe it's the same guy.
624
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,920
There's this one guy in a booth on a Saturday afternoon.
625
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,920
Maybe it's just one of the like...
626
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,920
Maybe they just brought like some animator's wife in.
627
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,920
Maybe there's a PA.
628
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Maybe they're like, oh crap, we need women.
629
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,920
We need a woman's voice in this all-male cast.
630
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,920
Aside from Carly who showed up for a couple episodes in season one.
631
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Now, what's the...
632
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Was it last episode, the episode before we talked about the genocide of all of the women Transformers?
633
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,920
I think this episode actually happens canonically before those.
634
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Interesting.
635
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,920
The other notable element of this episode is the way Powerglide treats her.
636
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Which is often throwing her around, physically grabbing her.
637
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Treating her like men treated women in the 50s, approximately.
638
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,920
She just keeps coming back for more.
639
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,920
If that's how Autobots treat women, they may have all just run away.
640
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,920
You know, side tangent.
641
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,920
Remember how we saw when Optimus Prime left Cybertron and Alita One wanted to come with him?
642
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,920
And then there's the explosion.
643
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920
And he's like, oh no, she's dead, we gotta go.
644
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,920
He didn't even check for a body.
645
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Do you remember what I'm talking about?
646
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,920
There's a flashback.
647
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,920
You don't know what I'm talking about.
648
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,920
I'm assuming she has big eyes though.
649
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,920
No.
650
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,920
Not that Alita?
651
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920
Wrong Alita.
652
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,920
What about the motorcycle Powerslide?
653
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,920
That's Akira.
654
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Are you saying that Alita doesn't Powerslide?
655
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,920
No, she's a car.
656
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Anyways.
657
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
So did you find the clip?
658
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920
Okay, I finally found the act.
659
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Her name is Astoria.
660
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,920
A-S-T-O-R-I-A.
661
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920
She's just a story.
662
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,920
That seems like an incredibly lazy name.
663
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920
I don't think she has any notable voice acting.
664
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,920
I'm just gonna talk over Caleb.
665
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
We're gonna bring him on the show just to talk over him.
666
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920
This is her magnum opus.
667
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Yeah, she just, a lot of just like one episode television appearances.
668
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,920
Nothing jumping out at me.
669
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Anyways, so here's a clip.
670
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,920
It is at that moment that she attempts to jump up and like grab on his arm.
671
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,920
And he just flings her down.
672
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,920
Which if it were a real 20 foot robot and a real woman, she would be paralyzed.
673
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Anyways, Powerglide is not 20 feet tall.
674
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,920
In fact, he is a small boy.
675
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920
He is a small boy.
676
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,920
Depends on which shot.
677
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920
He is definitely 20 feet tall.
678
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920
Look at that guy.
679
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,920
In this frame at least.
680
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920
There's another frame later in the episode where he is riding on a carousel with her.
681
00:32:49,920 --> 00:33:09,920
And he's probably like three feet taller than her.
682
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,920
And that's the crowning jewel of line delivery right there.
683
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920
My father, he died.
684
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Very Christopher Walken-esque with the unnecessary pause in the middle.
685
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,920
Powerglide does not wear a fedora, although I'm sure you listeners are imagining that if you haven't seen the episode.
686
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920
He does not, but he should.
687
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,920
And you're correct for imagining that in your heads.
688
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,920
So this episode was rife with animation errors.
689
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,920
And there was one in particular that Caleb caught that we all just loved.
690
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Caleb, do you want to describe that for us?
691
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Oh man, there is.
692
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,920
Okay, if I'm thinking the one you're referring to.
693
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:51,920
So part of it was they're on top of a somewhere that's flying and he has to get her to safety.
694
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,920
And so he said, I don't even remember the line he delivers, but he opens up his hand and there's a parachute there.
695
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,920
It was distracted camera, so he didn't catch it in time because the parachute animation is itself something to behold.
696
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Because it's not when Caleb says a parachute in his hand, you presume a big sheet to sitting in his hand.
697
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,920
No, no, it shoot out of his hand and then remains perfectly vertical as if it's like just been.
698
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
I mean, that's what they did. They drove.
699
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,920
They drew a single frame, this one frame of a parachute like an ice cream cone.
700
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,920
And it's just like it had this hysterical like parachute sound effect and it shot up his hand and just stopped there.
701
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,920
And it's at that moment I was totally attracted by the parachute and Caleb noticed that she her entire torso is just.
702
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Just this poor woman's entire torso is gone for a whole frame.
703
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,920
It's so good. But the rest of it's there.
704
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Yeah, it's just the head and then the dress just starts somewhere.
705
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,920
That's so good. The combination of parachute and the missing torso.
706
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,920
It's so good. And then don't forget.
707
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:05,920
He goes, you need to get out of here and answer the.
708
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:11,920
I don't know if this is before or after, but he's like you need to get out of here and he like hands her the parachute and she throws it off.
709
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,920
She's like, no, I want to stay with you. And he tries to walk away and she grabs him and he throws her again.
710
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,920
So if you're following along at home on YouTube, this is at 18 minutes and 42 seconds.
711
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,920
You can check that out for yourself.
712
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,920
Oh my goodness. And we should say the second time Rachel's trying to see it on my phone.
713
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920
It is again. It's so good.
714
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,920
Just take a screenshot of that.
715
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,920
Oh my goodness. Iconic. That could be the thumbnail. Along with along with Prawn.
716
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,920
And Grand Admiral Prawn.
717
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
And Admiral Crawdad.
718
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,920
Where the Crawdad sings. Where the Prawn sings.
719
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,920
This is five for five episodes of G1 season two that we watched that we haven't seen Pumplebee.
720
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Clearly something happened earlier in the season that we simply have not seen.
721
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,920
There's no good reason for him to be gone.
722
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:05,920
I will say there's a really funny comment on the YouTube video on Hasbro polls.
723
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Someone said, someone said, this is probably the most educational episode of Transformers that taught a generation of boys about women.
724
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Oh, that's not good.
725
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,920
Any other notes on this episode?
726
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:33,920
The tower that we see Astoria on look at the very gate looks is almost like shot for shot design of Stark towers.
727
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Could we talk about that opening? Our introduction to Astoria where she says the iconic line, it's my party.
728
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920
I can cry if I want to.
729
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Oh my gosh. Because she's angry at these old men who are also at the party.
730
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,920
I have to say my overall impressions are that this is a breathless show.
731
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,920
It is sprinting the whole time and I'm physically out of breath watching.
732
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Yeah, the only pace is marathon sprint.
733
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:07,920
And I was not prepared for this opening where they're at a party and it cuts immediately from with no space in the dialogue from two old men slightly complaining about like the apparent host of the party.
734
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Right. And then it cuts immediately to her yelling at everyone for not enjoying the party enough and then going, it's my party.
735
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,920
I can cry if I want to. And I was just I was not prepared for this. The speed of this episode.
736
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,920
Megatron was at his wit end this whole episode.
737
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,920
Oh, that was the other beautiful animation error.
738
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,920
So bad.
739
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:37,920
Shaking his head in anger and apparently his face moves faster than his mouth because it did not line up with his face on a couple of frames.
740
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,920
It was very good.
741
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:51,920
There it like, yeah, I think I don't know if it's Frank Walker. I believe who does Frank Walker sound like he sprinted up a flight of stairs before recording each of his lines.
742
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,920
And it was so funny.
743
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,920
It just added to the intense energy of this episode.
744
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:16,920
The ending was also pretty hysterical of where they proceed to drop Cloud City or, you know, because the flying thing, the flying whatever looked like Cloud City onto Decepticon base in the ocean, which Megatron says Soundwave activate the force or the force shields.
745
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,920
And Soundwave goes, what force shields?
746
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,920
They never expected anyone to find them underwater.
747
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,920
They're like, oh, we can we can skimp on this.
748
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,920
And then I think the last line of the episode is something.
749
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,920
No, it's not the last line.
750
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,920
Oh my goodness.
751
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,920
The last frame.
752
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,920
We should talk about the last frame of that episode because it has a lot to be a lot of questions are asked.
753
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,920
But the last thing Megatron says is, which is he brought up earlier that the Decepticons are drowning.
754
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,920
They don't quite drown because he just says, Decepticons, clean up this mess.
755
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,920
Water is flooding there.
756
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Before we talk about the last frame, we got to see your reaction to Rumble, the little guy.
757
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Oh, yes.
758
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,920
He's just little.
759
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Yeah, this is a shot of an interior of a room as three Decepticons walk in, one of which being the little guy and Rumble.
760
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Yes. And Caleb was quite surprised to see such a little Transformer bot.
761
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,920
He's a cassette.
762
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,920
He I see up to that point.
763
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920
All I knew was the animation errors were like size didn't matter.
764
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Transformers do one where the perspectives are made up in the size doesn't matter.
765
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,920
Exactly. So I just thought he was just a little guy and it was just a Transformer error.
766
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,920
No, he is just a little guy.
767
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,920
He is actually just a little guy. We love him.
768
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,920
And so I do love him. I stand for him.
769
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,920
We do stand Rumble.
770
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:46,920
And so the final frame of the episode, our two leads for the episode have Powerglide and Astoria have finally.
771
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,920
You know what? I just got to play just the noises that she makes.
772
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,920
He's like, I guess you're OK.
773
00:39:52,920 --> 00:40:03,920
And her reaction is your inner nostalgia critic with that pitch is just this is by far one of those annoying cartoon characters.
774
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,920
Let me see if I can find it here.
775
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Oh, yes.
776
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,920
That would. Yeah.
777
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Well, you're not so bad yourself.
778
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,920
You really mean it.
779
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Well, sure.
780
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:22,920
Oh, please.
781
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,920
Uh huh. So anyway, fan behavior.
782
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Oh, my goodness. And then the last frame of this episode, he walks.
783
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,920
It's our lover boy all alone.
784
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,920
He walks by and he opens up his.
785
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920
No, the Autobots are making fun of it.
786
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,920
That's right. The Autobots.
787
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,920
Except Optimus. Optimus is just like lurking as a still frame in the background.
788
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,920
No thought.
789
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,920
And he walks away from them after threatening to beat them up right for making fun of him.
790
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,920
And he walks into the I'm going to assume it's a garage because where else are they going to live?
791
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,920
He opens up his chest and an outline of a heart just appears.
792
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:00,920
A pink heart.
793
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:13,920
A pink heart and the implications of this relationship between the Autobot and a human are just maybe this is what inspired Bay to address the what is it that he addresses in one of his later films.
794
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,920
It's the age of consent rule.
795
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,920
The Romeo and Juliet laws.
796
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,920
This is the stuff that chart that began that uncharted territory of that kind of norms.
797
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,920
Hopefully it's something that they never explore again in G1.
798
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Right, Rachel?
799
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,920
So here's the thing that I find really funny about this.
800
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,920
Please tell me there's no more to this relationship.
801
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,920
I don't really.
802
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:42,920
I think it's really funny that this episode I think canonically comes before a lot of the ones on Cybertron because there's this whole thing of where a story says you're a robot.
803
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,920
I guess you can't have feelings like that.
804
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,920
And he gets offended literally.
805
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Optimus confirmed girlfriend.
806
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,920
Also side note.
807
00:41:52,920 --> 00:42:06,920
In that same scene she attempts to do some medical procedure on Power Glide by tearing her dress and wrapping it around his arm.
808
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,920
So clearly a very intelligent engineer there.
809
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaking of the intelligent and we really don't need to keep going on this episode but what's with the random mechanic in the episode who's there for.
810
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:18,920
That's Spike.
811
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,920
He's an ongoing character.
812
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,920
That is Spike Witwicky.
813
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,920
Oh my goodness.
814
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,920
It's Spike Witwicky not the Spike from the Super Mario Bros movie.
815
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,920
No.
816
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,920
No.
817
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,920
So he's the original human companion.
818
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,920
Him and his dad.
819
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Oh I see.
820
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,920
They are construction workers that kind of get caught up in the first initial three episode arc and now they're just there.
821
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,920
He's buddies with Bumblebee.
822
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,920
And it's a coincidence that his name is Sparkplug.
823
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,920
Oh.
824
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,920
That's got nothing to do with the fact that he works on cars or is friends with Transformers.
825
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,920
What's the part where he makes do the right thing.
826
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,920
At what point in the series does he do that.
827
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Is that a reference to the goofy movie.
828
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,920
No I think I'm trying to make a Spike Lee reference but I don't think it's working.
829
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Okay.
830
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,920
I think I might have named the wrong director.
831
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,920
Power Station is the band from.
832
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Wow.
833
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,920
Spike.
834
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,920
Oh see I thought you were talking about.
835
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,920
This is a very lazy joke.
836
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,920
This is not going to make it in the actual episode.
837
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,920
No I like how you said that and it's just.
838
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,920
No it's there forever.
839
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,920
I only things I edit out are like dead air.
840
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,920
So that's going in.
841
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,920
You have to keep that dead air in though because that was good.
842
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,920
What about this reference.
843
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920
So we're moving on now.
844
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,920
R slash whoosh.
845
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920
We are moving on to.
846
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,920
Rachel.
847
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920
No let me speak.
848
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Anyways so it's just very important lore wise his last name is Witwicky which ties to.
849
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Sam.
850
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,920
Sam yeah it's like haha.
851
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,920
Charlotte Buff.
852
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,920
So you know Michael Bay did 2 percent research.
853
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,920
2 percent research.
854
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,920
We're also five for five episodes of no jazz so.
855
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,920
Yikes.
856
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Actually he might have been in a background frame but.
857
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,920
That may have been a mistake.
858
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Anyways Star Wars Visions volume two.
859
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,920
On the final three bits.
860
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,920
I will shut this whole thing.
861
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,920
Five for five episodes without Echo.
862
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,920
So.
863
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Echo.
864
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,920
Who's Echo.
865
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,920
We can cut this bit too.
866
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,920
Who the heck is Echo.
867
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,920
Like the search for Echo movie.
868
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,920
No like Bad Match.
869
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Oh.
870
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,920
Good joke.
871
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,920
I did.
872
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Yeah we we failed to keep up that running bit of it's been so many days since.
873
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Since our last Crosshairs.
874
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Not Echo.
875
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,920
Crosshairs.
876
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,920
That's why you threw it off.
877
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,920
You used the.
878
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,920
You pulled a camera and used the wrong proper noun.
879
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,920
Actually you didn't pronounce him right.
880
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,920
Crocia.
881
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,920
Crocia.
882
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,920
Crocia.
883
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Oh no that's a little too French.
884
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,920
So now we are here to talk about the girl no wait wrong episode.
885
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,920
Bandits of Golak.
886
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,920
The Star Wars Visions episode.
887
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,920
The girl who loved Powerglide.
888
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,920
No this is a 3D animated episode.
889
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Bandits of Golak.
890
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Which was produced by.
891
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,920
88 Studios.
892
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,920
88 Studios.
893
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Who I have it up somewhere here.
894
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,920
They worked on.
895
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,920
A lot of Netflix stuff for the Trollhunters show.
896
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,920
Fast and Furious.
897
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Spy Racers.
898
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,920
The Veggie Tales show from 2019 to 2012.
899
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,920
Wow.
900
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Wait did you say 2019 to 2012?
901
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Yeah it's a Netflix show.
902
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,920
2019 to 2012?
903
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,920
What did I say?
904
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,920
Oh 2022 sorry.
905
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,920
Oh so this is back.
906
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Oh so this is back now that that's under big idea.
907
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,920
But not with the original creator.
908
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,920
I did not even know this was a thing.
909
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Oh I can tell you all the lore later.
910
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,920
So anyways.
911
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,920
So they work a lot with Netflix.
912
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,920
And I think for me that shows in the quality of their animation.
913
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,920
Personally.
914
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,920
Well we'll get into that in a minute.
915
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,920
The animation is roughly Clone Wars bad bat style.
916
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,920
That's what I have in my notes for distinguishing animation.
917
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,920
I wrote Clone Wars style but more fluid.
918
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,920
Almost too fluid.
919
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,920
It's very very very smooth.
920
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,920
This episode I would say falls very frequently into the uncanny valley.
921
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,920
Also I don't know if you guys know this.
922
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,920
I can't remember the producer but you know those like that like Walking Dead video.
923
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,920
Telltale games.
924
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Yeah it's got a little bit of a cell shading.
925
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,920
It feels very telltale games.
926
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:18,920
And it also feels like when you put Star Wars The Old Republic on the highest graphics.
927
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,920
Those are my three comparisons.
928
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,920
And we've got two main characters.
929
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Sharoq who is played by Siraj Sharma who was in The Life of Pi.
930
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,920
He is the main character in Life of Pi actually.
931
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,920
He's in the million dollar arm and he is in Happy Death Day 2.
932
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,920
He's a reoccurring character on How I Met Your Father.
933
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,920
So rather prominent live action actor.
934
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Probably shows why I don't think he's a very good voice actor.
935
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,920
But that's my opinion.
936
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,920
And then his little sister is Ronnie.
937
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,920
And let's see if.
938
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,920
She's mostly there to say, Sharoq.
939
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Yeah.
940
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,920
And something about candy.
941
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,920
Sweets.
942
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,920
What you keep calling it.
943
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,920
There's a lot of lollipops in this episode and it kind of makes me uncomfy.
944
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,920
I kind of like lollipops but there was a lot of lollipop munching.
945
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,920
And maybe it's different in space and there's like all kinds of nutrition.
946
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920
But I'm just thinking maybe it's because I went to the dentist today.
947
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,920
They keep referring to it as food.
948
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,920
Yeah.
949
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,920
I'm just like, you have poor teeth.
950
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,920
That's all I can think about.
951
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Munch.
952
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,920
And so they're clearly some sort of refugee from something.
953
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,920
The Empire.
954
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,920
Oh actually I want to look up exactly where this studio is from.
955
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,920
I kept feeling there was an Indian flair to it.
956
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920
Yeah or potentially like Pakistani.
957
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:46,920
Yes.
958
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,920
Let's see if I can pull them up here.
959
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,920
88 Studios.
960
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,920
Let's see.
961
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,920
Wait was it 88 or was it?
962
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,920
It was 88.
963
00:47:58,920 --> 00:47:59,920
88.
964
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:00,920
88 Productions maybe?
965
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,920
No I thought it was 88 Studios.
966
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,920
No I think you're right it was 88 Studios.
967
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,920
88 Studio Ghibli movies.
968
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Let's take a look.
969
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,920
Studio Ghibli hasn't made one of these right?
970
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,920
Nope.
971
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,920
88 Pictures.
972
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,920
88 Pictures.
973
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,920
Studio Ghibli did do a short about Grogu though.
974
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,920
Oh.
975
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,920
Oh that would be fun.
976
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,920
Oh yeah I've never.
977
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,920
I know I forget it exists.
978
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,920
I've never seen it.
979
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,920
I haven't seen it.
980
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,920
I remember seeing like oh that's cool and then immediately forgetting about it.
981
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,920
Nope.
982
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,920
I'm not seeing a.
983
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,920
Oh India.
984
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,920
There it is.
985
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Yep okay.
986
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,920
So they are Indian Studio and so there's very clearly an Indian influence on the.
987
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Especially the main characters and the voice acting choices and the general culture of
988
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:57,920
this particular world and they.
989
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,920
The younger sister uses the force while they're on the train and that gets them exposed to
990
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,920
a couple storm troopers.
991
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,920
They escape off the train in a action scene while some like freedom fighters attack the
992
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,920
train and they end up in a small town where there's supposedly someone can help them and
993
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:23,920
then there's an older woman there and then again the young sister whose name I'm blanking
994
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,920
on.
995
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,920
Rani.
996
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Rani thank you.
997
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:34,920
Uses the force again and at this time an inquisitor shows up played by an actor named Naraj
998
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Kabhi who has not been anything I recognize.
999
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,920
I'm guessing this is probably a lot of Indian cinema.
1000
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Return of the helicopter bleeds.
1001
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,920
And he then fights the old woman who reveals her cane turns into two lightsabers.
1002
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,920
That's cool.
1003
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,920
And.
1004
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,920
Good lightsaber fight.
1005
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,920
I was a fan.
1006
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,920
What are the kind of storm troopers that are with him?
1007
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,920
Purge troopers.
1008
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:00,920
Yeah.
1009
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,920
I believe they're almost phase two.
1010
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:04,920
Oh interesting.
1011
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Ah actually I might be incorrect about that but they were very much phase troopers we saw
1012
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,920
them in Kenobi.
1013
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,920
They're in Jedi Fallen Order and Survivor.
1014
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,920
And so she defeats the inquisitor and then offers to take Rani with her but she has to
1015
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,920
leave her brother.
1016
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,920
They have a tearful goodbye and she leave behind a flute that she was playing earlier
1017
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920
in the episode and that's the end.
1018
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,920
Can we talk about the absolutely brutal inquisitor kill?
1019
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Yeah describe it for me.
1020
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:45,920
So the older woman she's duking it out with this inquisitor and so she finally bests him
1021
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,920
and she slices towards his neck and you know in typical Star Wars we see beheadings all
1022
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,920
the time.
1023
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,920
The camera, the shot switches and it turns towards him.
1024
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:03,920
It's not a beheading but you see about a six inch gash from his collarbone just under his
1025
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:12,920
neck and he is still talking and you can see this open wound kind of in his neck.
1026
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,920
No gore but just like clean.
1027
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,920
Like glowing green or something like that.
1028
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,920
Yeah it's like cauterized kind of thing.
1029
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Sure.
1030
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,920
So residual energy and he's still talking.
1031
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,920
He's like a Jedi and Gulak and you hear his voice like physical and then collapses and
1032
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,920
it was just kind of like whoa okay kind of brutal.
1033
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,920
Yeah it was really nice like it was subtle in its own way and also that's what kind of
1034
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,920
what made it so much more brutal I think.
1035
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,920
Didn't like she didn't have to decimate him just had to give him a little.
1036
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Yeah so for me from really early on I started to notice that there was just something a
1037
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:57,920
little off about the I think any given element of this episode is fine but for some reason
1038
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,920
it doesn't all come together well at any given moment it's just a little bit off.
1039
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,920
There doesn't.
1040
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,920
It's like the assets and characters don't have the weight that they should.
1041
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:16,920
Yes which like especially the third episode we're going to talk about today really crystallized
1042
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,920
for me what animation should look like because the third animation for their episode we're
1043
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,920
talking about today I think it's perfect as far as animation goes.
1044
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:30,920
Everything there felt real and this and which they the third episode we're going to talk
1045
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,920
about today is designed to look like stop motion like felt and real materials but obviously
1046
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,920
more cartoony and that almost makes it feel more real where this episode has this like
1047
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,920
hyper realistic element to the the texturing and the characters faces and that to me is
1048
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,920
why it falls into the uncanny valley because it is trying to look real yet also maintain
1049
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,920
a level of cartoonishness because it's in that Clone Wars style and that just like was
1050
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:03,920
so distracting to me the whole episode from between the characters lips never quite perfectly
1051
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,920
matching the lines of dialogue and the voices never quite sound like they're coming out
1052
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:15,920
of the characters and that's where like I think on paper the lightsaber fights really
1053
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,920
exciting but because no one is really moving like real people even though they look like
1054
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,920
real people is just a strong disconnect and I just kind of lose a lot of interest in what's
1055
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,920
going on I feel like the lightsabers were what had the most weight sure on them when
1056
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:37,920
they would impact the impacts felt heavy I think the rest of it was like a little it's
1057
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:45,920
felt kind of floaty but overall I enjoyed it yeah I thought was pretty good it yeah
1058
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,920
I think I agree with a lot of sentiments I'm not coming to get I felt like I ended this
1059
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:55,920
episode I was like oh that was pleasant enough I suppose we did see a gunk with arms we did
1060
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:03,920
that was notable for sure armed gunk so this might get the best gunk appearance of the
1061
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:09,920
season I think and there's all these clearly a lot of if not specifically Indian Middle
1062
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Eastern cultural choices being made here for the aesthetic of the episode which I think
1063
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,920
I think most works for the Inquisitor's design because it's more blended with precinct Star
1064
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:29,920
Wars imagery so it's a nice blend but I think outside of that it's a little too real world
1065
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,920
which for me separates it from Star Wars it's a little it's trying a little too hard to
1066
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,920
infuse real world culture was I feel like traditionally Star Wars picks and chooses
1067
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,920
like what's amazing about the original trilogy is it draws not from just one thing it draws
1068
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,920
a little bit from Japanese stories draws a little bit from World War II films draws a
1069
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,920
little bit from like science fiction serials it's like it's piecemealing together inspiration
1070
00:54:53,920 --> 00:55:00,920
to create something new whereas this is like almost entirely you know like a Middle Eastern
1071
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,920
sci-fi fantasy which is totally fine but for me it separates it from the Star Wars world
1072
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:11,920
a little too too many steps granted a lot of Padme's outfits in the prequel trilogy
1073
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:20,920
were heavily heavily Eastern Asian in the prequel trilogy a lot of her Queen outfits
1074
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,920
oh sure yeah the heavily and there's a lot of reasons why I don't like the prequels
1075
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:31,920
all I'm hearing is that if we have Indian Star Wars that means we could have a Darjeeling
1076
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,920
women in Star Wars which means West Anderson Star Wars and I am always here for that he
1077
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,920
would never do it but I am always actually I mean I hate that it's a trend right now
1078
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,920
so I guess it's not as interesting to have this opinion but why not give him a Star Wars
1079
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,920
visions and let's see a West Anderson Star Wars visions I think it would be the most
1080
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,920
on you we melancholy I think you just want an Isle of Dogs Star Wars visions I would
1081
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,920
so see that I would so watch that yes Star Wars but with dogs and Jeff Goldblum I love
1082
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,920
Jeff and now I've sold Rachel I just love the heroes for me I'm sitting here looking
1083
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,920
at the gonks with arms and the arms almost touch the ground which is very very funny
1084
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,920
you also have this reoccurring joke of these they get to the town these two characters
1085
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,920
a little guy who might be an Uggnaught and a big guy and the big guy keeps
1086
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,920
uh
1087
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,920
accusing the little guy of throwing stuff at him and stuff keeps hitting the big guy
1088
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,920
and then he turns around and blames it on the little guy does that joke land for you
1089
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,920
guys at all because for me that just wasn't funny I think what really confused me I think
1090
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:40,920
the first time I was kind of like okay and then the set that so here's the thing I think
1091
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:47,920
this was the part of the episode that kind of lost me the most was where
1092
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,920
she lifted the plate Ronnie did when they were eating and it hit the guy again and his
1093
00:56:53,920 --> 00:57:00,920
immediate thought was the short guy who was right in front of him and then I thought they
1094
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,920
weren't going to acknowledge it until finally they all went that girl levitated the plate
1095
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:11,920
my other question was that when because this when all the plates started levitating it
1096
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,920
wasn't Ronnie it was the older woman yeah and they all dropped on everyone's heads and
1097
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,920
then they all started fighting each other which kind of confused me that whole sequence
1098
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,920
I was so lost for it yeah there's so yeah at that moment everything keeps coming back
1099
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,920
and forth between seeing Ronnie run in real time all the other characters like flying
1100
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,920
around or fighting in slow motion and yeah it's like kind of visually interesting but
1101
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:41,920
narratively and literally it's very distracting and again the third short we're going to
1102
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,920
talk about today does really well of taking things away from the literal and doing some
1103
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,920
more metaphorical imagery and making it very clear that you're transitioning from what
1104
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:54,920
is happening literally in the story to giving more mystical elements and this is something
1105
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,920
I complained about at the beginning of talking about visions is that I love that a lot of
1106
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:05,920
these shorts are playing around with being able to do less literal things than animation
1107
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,920
because this one is committed to the Clone Wars bad bad style it brings it back to this
1108
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,920
being grounded in this realism that to me is not why animation exists this is something
1109
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:25,920
that you really only have in the CGI age is trying dedicating way too much to hyperrealism
1110
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,920
and obviously it could potentially work in certain contexts but oftentimes it is not
1111
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,920
utilized very interestingly especially when you have nine shorts here and some are doing
1112
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:40,920
very interesting things with their animation this one is impressive on a technical level
1113
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:51,920
but ultimately I don't think it serves the story very well yeah it's sitting there okay
1114
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,920
you guys have anything you want to talk about before we go to the next episode no I think
1115
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,920
I'm good so I'm going to interrupt in here this is the end of part one Caleb and Rachel
1116
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:08,920
are still with us say hello for now hello yeah this episode went very long we had a
1117
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,920
lot of fun talking and so we're going to cut it off here and you can pick up with us and
1118
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,920
wherever I cut it off next week this is this is Cameron and Rachel and Caleb signing off
1119
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:41,920
saying stay tuned rebels and robots will return more pronged content on the way bye