Speaker 1:
0:00 Now it's time to be dangerous. Now it's time to get risky. Now it's time to truly find out what you're made of and what you could achieve. Now it's time to truly find out how many lives you can impact.
Speaker 3:
0:11 Now it's time to find out what you were destined to become.
Speaker 2:
0:16 Yeah, it's a Sunday, but we are back. We have a special edition for you. I'm your host, Eric.
Speaker 3:
0:23 And I'm Anthony.
Speaker 2:
0:24 And we are Raw Minds. Normally we record on Mondays, but we're doing a collab with Dad Talks Great group of guys. I was on a men's mental health Facebook page and I saw them post on there and says hey, we started a podcast. Come check us out, let us know what you think, give us some info, you know if we're good or bad or just anything right. So I was like fuck man, you know me. I was like I'm down to help these guys. Man, I'm always about paying for it. I know how hard it was for us to, you know, kind of figure out everything.
Speaker 3:
1:05 We're still figuring it out.
Speaker 2:
1:06 Still every fucking day man. That's right, still, man, that's the fun thing about it, right? You know what I mean. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
1:13 So I reached out to these guys and I listened to their podcast and I thought it was fucking great. They got great banter back and forth. I love it. And so I said, fuck it, let's bring them on, have some fun, make some new friends and, you know, hopefully, um, you know, some of our guests can go and check out their shit and and have a good time and support them too yeah, and while they're here, we might as well just pick their brains and let them get a little vulnerable with us, because you know how we roll around here.
Speaker 3:
1:41 We love to do that shit absolutely bring them on in.
Speaker 1:
1:44 Let's go, man welcome dad talks hey boys, what's going on guys?
Speaker 2:
1:49 no, I'm not going yeah, man, good, good, glad you guys are back. Um, you know waiting for your episode. I'm waiting for number four to come home man we were.
Speaker 5:
2:01 I was just about to publish it before. Uh, we were gonna get on here, but uh, the uploading was going a little slow fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2:
2:08 We're gonna have it uploaded and it's gonna be on everything hell, yeah, I'm gonna be listening to that man, definitely. So why don't you tell everybody about your guys's? Self man you know, plug yourself, let's fucking push it out there uh.
Speaker 1:
2:22 So I'm scott and uh I'm zach and we uh worked at the same place for quite a while. We'd sit down and we'd have what we'd like to call dad talks. I've heard anthony mentioned he called it like a ted talk, right, so we'd sit down with some of our co-workers and have these ted talks or dad talks, and we were like, hey, maybe we could sit down and have a podcast about it. Maybe some other people would like to hear about our experiences and maybe some of the experiences that we went through and how we dealt with it could help somebody else a little bit, you know. Hell yeah man.
Speaker 2:
2:57 Sweet. So where can everybody find you man? Let us know.
Speaker 5:
3:03 So we can be found on Apple podcast, amazon music. Spotify um pod bean. We're gonna be on youtube tonight we already have our account. It's just nothing's uploaded to it, unfortunately. Yeah, but uh, yeah. And then for socials, we're on Instagram, facebook, snapchat, pretty much on everything.
Speaker 2:
3:28 Hell yeah, man, what's your handles?
Speaker 3:
3:30 What's your yeah, what's your usernames?
Speaker 1:
3:33 So Instagram, we're at dad underscore talks 2025. Snapchat, it's dad talks 25. Tiktok, we're on dad dot talks. Facebook is just dadtalks, youtube is dadtalks hyphen 2025 and our Gmail, if you ever want to just get a hold of us, is dadtalks.2025 at gmailcom yeah, man hit them up and be a guest on their show too you know what I'm saying show them some love yeah, we're always looking for interesting people to talk to. Man absolutely man.
Speaker 2:
4:09 So just uh, since we're on like the, the podcast topic right now, how is it being like from starting? Um, like how's the struggles of it? Is it? Is it okay? Minimalism, like how, how is this for you guys?
Speaker 1:
4:25 It's a lot more than what you think, right? You just see, you guys just talk naturally back and forth, and even that alone is quite a feat. A lot of people don't understand what it's like to have a conversation with people and have it be meaningful.
Speaker 5:
4:41 Right, there's a lot of there's like a science to it, I think, and besides that, like all the behind the scenes stuff is, it's pretty, pretty rugged there's a lot more to it than just sitting on a couch with a fucking microphone in your face yeah sorry, go ahead zach it's not even like, uh, some of these people like, when it comes down to even just like you guys, you guys keep things raw, but I mean there's a couple of things that could be like making your clips, or just making your audio sound a bit better and stuff like that. You got to find the right software first that you know how to work with, and then you got to figure out how to work with that and work with putting everything on different platforms. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
5:24 And you know what, figuring it out, like not ever doing it, not really having like, like for me, instance, like Anthony, like no guidance, right, so it was all like trial and error, man, but that's the fun part about it, too right Is like you know you get a, it's not failing, but it's like you know. And in life, this is in life man, I'm going gonna quote this as well as, like anything you do, you know when you fail, it's not real failing, it's like learning, you learn the lesson and then you, you don't do it. At that time you know yeah, and you change it or whatever.
Speaker 3:
5:56 Whatever the situation may be, I will say too, as like I like. I know we've had a discussion before, but I feel like you guys have come a long way already since our last discussion. I don't even think you guys were on Spotify last time we talked. No.
Speaker 2:
6:11 And now you're on.
Speaker 3:
6:12 Apple. You're on Amazon. You guys are putting the work in. So good for you for committing to it and following through with what you need to do. You guys are doing it, man. Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:
6:27 It's a process for sure, but again, like you guys are doing it, man, yeah, man, yeah, it's. Uh, it's a process for sure, but again, like you guys said, it's fun, man, we enjoy doing it, even the stuff that we didn't enjoy at first. We're finding, uh, we kind of like it a little bit more as time progresses yeah the clips alone. I was terrible at that shit, but just playing with it now.
Speaker 2:
6:43 Now, instead of just playing around when I'm bored, I'll sit and make clips, so it's pretty fun yeah, it's like you're creating you know what I mean and you're making like something into something even bigger that you can push out on the internet. When and if it it grabs people's attention, people get to come to your, to your show and get to listen to you, and it's amazing, man, you know it's bringing people together and having a community together and just having fun, man, at the end of the day, that's what it's about. It's just about having fun, like for Raw Minds, like yeah, we talk deep shit but at the same time, we're having fun. You know, we break those barriers. We don't give a fuck, we don't, we don't care. This is just what we do, we're wrong man, you know and it's.
Speaker 2:
7:29 It's, like I said, having fun, man, at the end of the day and it's sorry, go ahead, scott.
Speaker 3:
7:35 No, you go. And I was just gonna touch on, like how you said. Uh, like there's a science to conversation and stuff. Eric and I had this conversation, I think, on like Friday or something, just about like it's a learned skill, like it's something that I've obtained doing this. You know, like I'm in a 12-step program so I talk at meetings all the time, right, so I can talk to people, but like carrying on a conversation for an hour plus is a very difficult thing. But in doing this it's kind of just come right and Eric has his attributes about him that compliment mine, right. So like Eric's good at breaking the silence and keeping guests on the topic and bringing them back to the conversation If get off on a wild tangent. You know, like I'm good at articulating things and relating experience to it and asking like the really deep thought questions, like that's my skill, right, but all of this happened by just doing this.
Speaker 3:
8:36 You know what I mean like I didn't start out being super good at thinking about great questions and relating my experience and eric didn't start out by like breaking silence and keeping people on to on topic.
Speaker 3:
8:47 It just it just happened that way you know so like now, if my brain's not working, I don't have to worry about it, because I know eric's is and eric knows that, like, sooner or later I'm going to come up with a deep question and it's just. It's just the way it goes and you guys will find your, your little niches that both of you carry towards your podcast and how they complement.
Speaker 3:
9:08 But the difference is is you guys already have that skill because you guys work together anyways, right? So what you've created publicly has already been happening personally for you guys, which is great. So, yeah, super excited to see where it takes you guys and super excited to watch you guys gain traction along the way.
Speaker 2:
9:25 Yeah, the biggest thing that I could say is just keep your momentum. You know that's the biggest thing is just to keep on rolling forward, pushing out the content. You know, because once you like, take a little bit, like we took about a month off. I think it was a month off, right, yeah, we took a month off, I think it was a month off, right?
Speaker 3:
9:45 Yeah, we took a month off. I think it was around a month.
Speaker 2:
9:46 Yeah, I think we revamped, got the new logo, did a bunch of stuff. But I mean you get.
Speaker 3:
9:53 No no. No no, no. We didn't, no, we didn't.
Speaker 2:
9:57 But I'm just saying, you get that burnout right you got to be Be careful if you do take some time off Watch that burnout, because then it's like you get lazy to go back or whatever. We were almost in that sense, me and Joey anyways, when we first started. It was dangerous, it was a dangerous road, but we got there, man, and I wish I had the stats on here. Let me see if I can pull these stats up.
Speaker 1:
10:22 Yeah, while you do that, man, we totally agree. We had some technical difficulties this week and, as a lot of our viewers know, zach's getting married pretty soon well we're congratulating, but we're still kind of there's a bunch of drama and shit surrounding it. So we've had to deal with that all week and that's been a big thing yeah are we able to get into that, or is that?
Speaker 3:
10:48 if we can't, it's totally fine, we respect it I mean we can.
Speaker 5:
10:52 We can get into it a little bit. I mean there's a little bit that I'll have to leave out because it involves other people. I don't want to talk about their person yeah, definitely, we respect that.
Speaker 3:
11:02 So what's going on?
Speaker 5:
11:04 so I mean the most general way I can put this without uh hurting anybody's feelings if they do listen to this, uh would be. So there was uh a misunderstanding about something that had went on. Communication wasn't really there and once that thing had happened, there was a couple people that had blocked each other and then other people were trying to get in on it and it caused a hell of a lot more drama and stress on my fiance because it was mostly on her end. But then, after that had started, some more stuff started on my end because we got a couple of couples that are I have a groomsman, she has a bridesmaid, and they're together. So of course, there's a little bit of drama that comes in from that and, yeah, there was a couple of tough decisions that had to be made and some people didn't really like it. It caused a lot of stuff to happen throughout the week and a lot of stress and stuff that kept me and her really busy and didn't have a lot of time to do so.
Speaker 3:
12:13 At the end of the day, we actually had two days that we put off recording. At the end of the day, buddy, it's yours and your fiancé's fucking wedding.
Speaker 5:
12:22 That's what we keep telling you. That's what we all discussed. We're just like we. She ended up. She actually she really blew up after I was talking to her about it. She was like she started telling everybody. She was like we can just go down to the courthouse, we don't need any of you guys.
Speaker 4:
12:38 I was like, I was like we don't have to please anybody.
Speaker 5:
12:41 I was like it's for us.
Speaker 3:
12:44 Yeah, that's true, it is.
Speaker 1:
12:46 Just get the papers. I can sign them here, bro. I'm a minister.
Speaker 3:
12:49 There you go, man Fucking right, do it on a podcast. There you go, do it live on the fucking podcast.
Speaker 2:
12:55 What a podcast that would be bro. Hell yeah. Fuck, there you go, episode fucking four or episode five. Man, sorry, I'm just trying to open. I just got my married.
Speaker 1:
13:05 I've got a bad track record, though I've got a one for three is still together. One for three, pretty shit.
Speaker 5:
13:15 It's not your fault.
Speaker 1:
13:17 I'm not taking a hit on that.
Speaker 3:
13:19 No, you did your job, man. You know what my kid's mom did my kid's mom's mom, so my ex's mom, my kid's grandmother when she got married, they just fucked off down to the Caribbean or something, had a little ceremony down there, had it all filmed and then when they got back they just had a party and showed all the pictures and the videos of the ceremony for everybody here. That way people didn't have to pay to go down there and it didn't cost them a shit ton of money. It was just they went and enjoyed their time and then when they got back they just shared that time with everybody else. That's how they did it. Yeah, just a loaf who cares?
Speaker 2:
13:59 man, you know what? To be honest with you, that shit's expensive. Anyways, it's, it's for, it's for the women, right? And if she wants to do it, then by all means do what she wants to do, right. At the end of the day it's for her, but if she's so down, I lope and fuck.
Speaker 3:
14:18 Oh, has Mike cut out? I think he's still messing around with his shit. I think he just got a new mic card. There you go.
Speaker 5:
14:23 It'd be so much cheaper buddy, I mean, yeah, we've been doing a lot of stuff. How much will Lennon tell him the price? So when I first started we first started getting like just for all of the general stuff we needed for the wedding. We got an invoice.
Speaker 5:
14:41 I was at work with him. We went on break. I told him I was like like you wouldn't believe the message I just got. I was like what it was? Like the total, the invoice it was 24,000. Yeah and uh yeah, that was just for uh, just to throw your own wedding. That's not even to have it at A venue.
Speaker 3:
15:01 So what did that include? Did that include all your fucking balloons and?
Speaker 5:
15:04 tablecloths, every little thing, every bell and whistle. So we cut it all the way down to like Like six and a half thousand. Six and a half thousand, I think.
Speaker 1:
15:16 But again, it's a single check family, yeah, so that's kind of rough man. Yeah dude.
Speaker 5:
15:26 That's just six and a half000 for your party stuff For your ceremony.
Speaker 1:
15:29 That's not impressive.
Speaker 2:
15:32 Might be an idea. Man, At least you save that money Fucking. Have a crazy honeymoon, man, Fuck it. Use that money towards the honeymoon. Yeah.
Speaker 5:
15:41 She wants to go to Okinawa.
Speaker 2:
15:44 Nice, what in Japan? Yeah, yeah, you know, what.
Speaker 3:
15:46 I mean she wants to go to. Okinawa, nice, what in?
Speaker 2:
15:48 Japan yeah.
Speaker 5:
15:49 Fucking sick that would be dope man. Yeah, but it's really pretty. That's true I have looked into what Okinawa looks like. There's a lot of beautiful views Go in.
Speaker 2:
16:01 The cherry blossoms are fucking going out there. Yeah, that would be good.
Speaker 3:
16:06 See, I'm from a really small town. I've never been married, thank God. But most of my family got married at my cousin's house. Because he owns a farm and he has a barn that he built 15 years ago. So he'll just move all the hay out and fucking put tables in there. He'll just rent tables and then we'll just have a wedding in a fucking farmer's field. Man, it's dirt cheap man for his wedding.
Speaker 3:
16:34 I remember this was back when I drank and they just had like those tin bathtubs like all over the property and we were just drinking beer during the ceremony and my family's like super christian, like just tins full of beer, like the bathtubs full of beer everywhere. You were drinking the whole time. Like I was fucking blackout. My uncle, who's super Christian, never missed a day of church in his life. That's the only Sunday he never went to, never went to church. My brother and I had to carry him up to his bed in his tighty whiteys and our aunt said in the morning she's like that's the first time that he's ever missed church since we've been married. Really.
Speaker 2:
17:06 And I'm like holy fuck.
Speaker 3:
17:08 Got him wasted. Oh yeah, he was a mess.
Speaker 2:
17:11 Sorry, I just got this new setup here because I just moved into my new place, so I'm trying to work everything out. I got three screens looking at trying to follow everything. Don't mind me guys. So you're like you said, zach, you're, you're a father. Yes, how old are you, brother? I'm 24 24. Yeah, so how's that? How's the the experience with that man?
Speaker 5:
17:35 well, I love being a dad. I mean I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world. I mean, yeah, I uh had to cut my my younger years down of my partying and stuff. But, I got into a lot of stuff when I was young, so I mean I don't really have a need or a want to party anymore. I mean I had a pretty rough background. Yeah. Got into a lot of stuff. I was addicted to different drugs and now that he's around, I mean my whole life's changed. I've got the best.
Speaker 5:
18:07 I mean actually ever since he was born. I've had the best three jobs I've ever worked at. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:
18:14 Well, look, man, you're on a podcast. Now, man, you got your own podcast, buddy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:
18:18 Yeah, I mean, I got my own place now and I've got a nice new truck, nice own place now, and I've got a nice new truck. I'm doing everything just because I got the kid around. I know if that kid wasn't here I'd be a whole different guy.
Speaker 2:
18:30 You know what it is. It's your why, man? That's your why. Why you do these things, why you get up in the morning, why you want to do all this, is because you're a kid, right?
Speaker 5:
18:38 That's your why, yeah, my family is the reason for everything, 100%, man.
Speaker 2:
18:44 At the end of the day, we're all, we're all fathers here. So you know, that's, that's what we do, you know and you know what?
Speaker 3:
18:52 you know what I'll say. Man is like like I wasn't a present father before I got sober. Like I know you said you had been through some stuff that didn't stop me, like after my kids were born. I didn't stop me Like after my kids were born I didn't get clean and sober until my daughter was six and my son was three, you know. But what I found over the past four years is like the stuff that I thought was fun, like before I had kids. It's almost like it's a reset button when you have kids. Like my kids are into playing Fortnite. When they're at their moms, they're calling me like can we go play Fortnite? Like you're back into the video games.
Speaker 3:
19:26 I bought one of those game sticks for Christmas that has fucking blades of steel on it, like all the old Nintendo games Like Pokemon and shit. My kids are into that, so your fun just kind of goes back to the stuff that you used to do when you were a kid.
Speaker 2:
19:50 And now you get to share it with them, right? So it's fucking super awesome, man, you just get to start over. Yeah, it gives you excuse to do. Yeah, like you said, man gives you excuse to do these little things. Now I have like, well, I mean, who gives a fuck? I love cartoons, man, at the end of the day, but now I get to watch more man you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:
20:02 I mean, like my fiance catches me all the time when we buy him new toys, I'll be taking them out and I'll be trying to play with figure out yeah, like this when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:
20:12 It's cool well, my daughter's at the age too. Now, like, and you too, anthony, your kids are at the, where they play video games you know what I?
Speaker 2:
20:19 mean, and I get to like she plays minecraft, right. So then I, I downloaded minecraft, I was playing with her. She's like, dad, let's build the biggest, let's both build bases and see who builds the better base. Oh yeah, so there's me. I build this base. I got this like lava mode around it, mind you, like I'm not, I don't really play Minecraft.
Speaker 2:
20:37 It's like I just downloaded the first time. I'm really playing with it, I'm getting into it, and then, next thing, you know, she's in my base. I'm like what are you doing in my base? She's like I don't like my base anymore, I'm gonna move into your base, starts wrecking walls and building all in my base and all this. I was like, okay, I see how it is, but yeah, it's fun. Man, you get to have those experiences and, scott, your, your kids are older, right. So you've. You've probably experienced somewhat, if not video games, but other things, right that that you know that you can relate to more, not like as a child. You know they're just pretty much screaming and crying and change my diaper. It's all full of shit.
Speaker 1:
21:15 But now you don't have to do that when they were little kids like that. I loved it because everything could be done right there in your arm right yeah, they're gonna shit. They're gonna fall asleep right there it was perfect.
Speaker 1:
21:25 Yeah, yeah, I like them, I like my kids. Once they got a little bit older it was more entertaining, like my kid. Now he's 14 and the kid loves fishing, you know. So I kind of got back into that. As I got older I found it got a lot more boring. We, we do the video games, but that's like a winter time thing and he's more uh into playing with his friends. He wants to play uh rainbow six or like that, yeah you know, and he's already got the squad.
Speaker 1:
21:56 So dad's not cool enough to play video games with anyone. Sometimes he'll come and take a whooping on Madden, but that's few and far between.
Speaker 3:
22:07 That's fucking empowering, though, eh, just like your kids are like, oh, I'll beat you, and it's like you don't even know what the fuck you're about to walk into Shit when you hammer that Madden.
Speaker 1:
22:15 I got him every time, yeah, and we're Canadian, so it's.
Speaker 3:
22:19 it's NHL up here, but same thing no, no, no no chill baby, I'm all about the football.
Speaker 2:
22:26 Even though my team lost, I'm all about the football yeah, that was wild yeah, they didn't even show up it was terrible, but you know what, man? Like I said our last podcast they outplayed man. The better team won at the end of the day and I show respect. That's what it's all about, man.
Speaker 1:
22:46 I guess.
Speaker 5:
22:46 so I haven't watched a boring fucking Super Bowl like that I gotta say it actually was relatively like yeah, they played good and the Eagles did and KC tried hard, but it was a relatively boring game overall. Hey, I don't want to give him any hate yeah it's not hate man, it's just you know what?
Speaker 2:
23:11 he didn't show up and he was right, man, he didn't he even said you know what I mean.
Speaker 5:
23:16 But he was always next year yeah that's true we'll see if they. Maybe there's another rematch next year.
Speaker 2:
23:22 I fucking don't know.
Speaker 5:
23:24 We'll see you never know you never know.
Speaker 2:
23:26 I don't know the Philly, the Philly's pretty good man. You know those, the Philly team. They're young. They're young team, they're hungry. They were like KC a couple years back, right the events of wine was like 3 four years ago.
Speaker 5:
23:39 They're just like yes, he was.
Speaker 1:
23:40 Yeah, this is true.
Speaker 2:
23:43 See for that, though. Imagine the feelings that are going through these guys. Man, you know like you're on this high and then, all of a sudden, fucking. You know, you know that you're going to lose. You could just see these guys you know, going through like the emotions and shit. It's hard man. Definitely you know it's hard man. Definitely it's really hard to experience that, but it's part of the game, man. You're not going to win every fucking game.
Speaker 1:
24:11 No, you did, we guarantee you, you never learn.
Speaker 3:
24:14 Do you feel like there would be a certain level of complacency because they've already been there twice? I believe, so A little bit of pride and ego, like yeah, we've already been there twice. You know like a little bit of pride and ego, like yeah, we've already done this, we can do it again, and they kind of fall off that level of desperation that they had before cockiness almost in a sense too right.
Speaker 2:
24:33 Yeah, yeah, once you start winning.
Speaker 1:
24:35 Like that, you got to get back to the rocky four of life, you know yeah, you need to start crawling up the mountain yeah, yeah, exactly man. You don't like it when you go to the gym.
Speaker 2:
24:45 So we were talking about kids earlier. I kind of just jumped the gun back there, but Anthony's heard this so many times. The way that I like to parent my daughter is I like to do it more differently. I like to do it more differently, right? So, for example, me and my daughter used to go walk my dog and then my dog passed away now but we'd walk my dog and then on the way back we'd come up in the elevator.
Speaker 2:
25:13 I used to live in an apartment and she would race my dog from the elevator all the way down to our apartment door. And one time it was me and my daughter and we just came back, get up the elevator and we just opens up the door and she's like dad, I want to race you. I'm like I'm gonna kick your fucking ass, man. It's like dad, I don't know, I'm gonna beat you. I want to race you. I was like no way, man, I'm gonna kick your ass. And she's like no, dad, I'm gonna beat you. So I smoked her. I smoked she was probably about five years old at the time, but I fucking just smoked her right. And I would get to the door and I'm like yeah, I won.
Speaker 2:
25:51 I turn around and she's on the ground crying and I'm like why are you crying? She's like you didn't let me win. I'm like you think that anybody in this life is just gonna hand you a win. You're gonna work for that shit. You know you're gonna work for that and even then you're not guaranteed to win. But if you put that work in, that's, that's that's what you need to do. Sorry, my mic is going crazy here you're good over here.
Speaker 3:
26:18 Yeah, you're right over here.
Speaker 2:
26:19 Yeah, anyway, yeah, so that's it's, I'm all messed up, this new setup is all fucked up, but yeah, so that's. I'm all messed up, this new setup is all fucked up. But yeah, yeah, like and that's what I was trying to teach her is you know anything? That in life, like, no one's going to hand you anything. You need to work for that shit. You got to put in the work you know and you got to want it. And I told her I'm like, you can train as much as you want to try to beat me, but at the end of the day, I'm your dad, you're not gonna beat me.
Speaker 1:
26:44 But I agree, I agree. That's the way I kind of raised my kids. They all, they all agree that the same thing dad's dad's always gonna smoke it. But at the same time I'm gonna turn around and show you how I did it yeah, right, yeah, I. Want you eventually to smoke me. God, I want you to smoke me and five other people so. So I try and turn around and like give my kids that extra bit of knowledge as I'm passing by, especially afterward. I guess a race is a bad analogy for it.
Speaker 2:
27:12 But you know, what I mean yeah definitely man because, because we've all.
Speaker 1:
27:17 I don't know about you guys, but I can speak for zachary myself. We we've had some pretty poor decision making in the past and we'd rather our kids not follow down that same tube, because once you get down there it's hard to fucking crawl back out. Man.
Speaker 2:
27:31 Definitely man.
Speaker 3:
27:32 You know what? I said this on a podcast, like three episodes ago, and we were talking about like struggles and stuff. And I said, like you know, like I'm fucking grateful that I'm the one who had to experience the things that I had to experience, some of them by my own doing, some of them by the doings of others. It is what it is, but I'm grateful that I was the one to be able to experience them because I fucking made it out so that my kids don't have to experience some of the shit that I did. Definitely, and if they do experience it, they know exactly where to come to to know how to make it out.
Speaker 3:
28:05 Just like you said, scott, like I'll fucking show you exactly how I, how I did it, if it's good things or bad things if I kick their ass in a video game or if it's dealing with certain things in their life that I've been through. You know like it sucked, and I know it's gonna suck as you're through it, but here's how I got out of it.
Speaker 2:
28:24 Knowledge is power.
Speaker 3:
28:26 Yeah, and there's still shit that I go through. That it's like fuck. I hope my kids don't ever have to go through this, but knowing that I get to go through it so that they don't have to is a huge driving point for me.
Speaker 2:
28:39 Definitely man.
Speaker 1:
28:41 I 100% agree. Man point for me definitely. Man. I 100 agree. Man like um. Like you said, we wish more for our children than than we have currently.
Speaker 1:
28:50 So anytime I can impart what little knowledge and I guess that's where our podcast came from. Right, we wanted to impart what little knowledge we had on life and maybe help somebody else through it. Anthony, I don't, I know you tell the story all the time and you told it to us, uh, during our interview the thing about the starfish right. So if we can just throw one starfish back, we'd be happy as fuck.
Speaker 2:
29:14 Yeah that's right, you want to. You want to say the starfish, just so everybody knows. You want to say the the little story, just for people that are not just tuning in right now. Yeah, I can say the little story just for people that are just tuning in right now.
Speaker 3:
29:25 Yeah, I can say the starfish story. It's also on our TikTok, so if you want to follow us on TikTok, it's Raw Minds, we got lots of stuff up there. But there's this old man and he's walking down the beach and he sees this little boy and this little boy's just chucking starfish into the ocean. And he walks up to the little boy and he said what are you doing, man? And he's like oh, I'm trying to save the starfish. And the old man looks down the beach and there's miles of coastline and hundreds of thousands of starfish. And he looks back at the little boy and he just laughs and he says, man, look at all the starfish, look at all the coastline, like you're not going to make a difference. Little boy just looks at him, looks at the ground, picks up a starfish, chucks it back in the ocean. He says, well, I made a difference to that one and that's the story.
Speaker 2:
30:11 Yeah, that's true, man, and the thing is too, you never know, especially with podcasts. Man, definitely we've reached a lot of people. We're in 20 different countries right now, and Ukraine and Spain, we see you. So thank you for tuning in. We really appreciate you guys, but I mean, you don't know what you're affecting, right? You're out there, you're expressing whatever Like. For us, obviously, we're men's mental health. We have men. Come on, share their stories, you know, try to break the stigma, one day at a time and one man at a time. But we don't know the effects of what we're doing, because these people don't reach out. We only hear the effects of the people that reach out. We get a lot of emails back, messages back, thank you, and we appreciate everything. We reply to every single one of you guys.
Speaker 2:
30:57 And all the people that are struggling. We love you, we have your back. Raw Minds is here for you guys, and when you do have that strength to reach out, I mean feel free to you know we're here for you guys, but I mean it's, it's like I said, it was powerful. You know, you don't know to the extent of you know your reach of of what, what maybe someone's going through.
Speaker 3:
31:21 You know, and we touched on something and you know it helps that person and it's just, it's amazing thing like yeah, so like, even for you guys, like I know you guys are pretty new and fresh into this, but like, have you guys ever stopped to think about the fact that not every you don't know everybody who's heard you guys talk there's people who know you that you don't even have a fucking clue you guys talk. There's people who know you that you don't even have a fucking clue exist in this world.
Speaker 3:
31:45 And eric and I talked about this the other day- yeah like man, like there's people on the other side of the fucking world who know more about me than I. I don't even know of their existence. You know what I mean just from what I've I've said on here. Like it's a crazy, like and for me, like that kind of centers me and makes me realize, like, how small and I don't want to say insignificant, because it sounds self-deprecating when I say it that way.
Speaker 3:
32:07 you know, like when I think of my worldly problems, like I just think about how far this alone has reached and how small of a being I am, you know, and like how little of an impact my problems have on the entire world. So sometimes it's good to just like center myself and realize like my problems aren't that fucking big. It humbles you big time because there's things that I've said on this podcast that have probably impacted someone far greater than I could ever fathom in my life, but I'll never know about it, I'll never hear about it. And I've had it happen at meetings. Like I speak at meetings all over Ontario and I've been to meetings in Toronto, which is an hour and a half West, and then I go to a meeting in Kingston, which is an hour and a half East, and there's people in Kingston being like I've heard you speak on a zoom meeting before and I'm like fucking where, fucking, two years ago you were speaking at this meeting and I'm like, holy fuck, like I didn't even know this person existed. Something I said that night that, when I shared my story, obviously impacted them enough for them to carry it for two fucking years to the point where they were able to recognize me in person. You know what I mean. Like I've got tattoos so I'm pretty recognizable, but like still like it blows my mind that like words have such a fucking impact like so far out there now, like that's one positive thing I will say about social media and the internet.
Speaker 3:
33:31 I think there's a lot of negative things about it, but one thing I will say is that it it's given us the ability to connect, not just virtually and like this, but just like on such a deep level with human beings. And now we have access to so much this. But just like on such a deep level with human beings. And now we have access to so much more information on, just like how to be better people. Like you can use it for good or bad. Right, like you can go. You can go on the fucking snuff film websites on the dark web and watch people get their heads chopped off. Or you can go get unlimited access to free information about mental health gym workouts. Like there's so much positive information out there as well. Right, like that's the one thing I will say that internet and social media has done is connected people on much more than just a fucking virtual level. You know what I mean, so fuck.
Speaker 1:
34:17 We brought us together. And 10 years ago, you wouldn't have the ability to have a conversation like this, where we could touch however many thousands of people that this is going to touch. Right, yeah, and I feel like that is really shown in effect, especially lately, because prior to anything like this, men's mental health had such a stigma wrapped around it. What would you say 10, 15 years ago? It wasn't an unspoken thing.
Speaker 3:
34:45 I would say five years ago.
Speaker 2:
34:46 Yeah, man, Even then, dude, you know yeah it's just breaking the surface, like in these last couple of years, is finally breaking the surface.
Speaker 1:
34:55 I very much agree, and it's a. It's such a quiet and unspoken topic that anytime you can get a little bit out there, it's. It's good for the cost.
Speaker 2:
35:05 Every time 20 minutes deep yeah, that's why we do it every monday, man, to push it out there and, and you know, break that stigma. And it's okay, man, to feel, feel, not okay, you know, but it's not okay to to stay down. Right, we're here to stop people unaliving themselves, and you know suffering in silence.
Speaker 3:
35:28 Yeah, man and I hate to say it.
Speaker 3:
35:31 I don't think it's going to be our generation. That's like we're obviously the. I feel like we're the transitional generation because, like my son is free to feel whatever the fuck he wants to feel and he knows that he's safe with me and he knows that he's safe with his mom and he's allowed to express himself however he wants. I can't tell you the amount of times where I'll just be like laying on the couch and the kid will just come up and grab my face and just like scream in my face. I'm like what the fuck was that dude? He's like I just wanted to tell you that I loved you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:
36:02 So, like, all right, I feel like our children's generation is going to be the one where the impact is is made. You know what I mean. Yeah, we're that transitional ones. We're the ones fucking it all up, figuring it out. We're the ones who are going to get beat up for speaking out. But by the time our kids are grown, by the time your son's old enough to Zach, talking about your feelings and being open and vulnerable will be the new normal.
Speaker 2:
36:29 It's about breaking that chain too, right, yeah, that's what we have to do is break these chains. I mean, I broke the chain of my generation. My dad, my uncles, all the men on my dad's side are either divorced or alcoholics. Well, I'm not an alcoholic. I'm not a drinker. I maybe have a drink once in a blue moon. It doesn't do anything for me. And I'm single. I'm not divorced, so I haven't been married. So I'm okay.
Speaker 3:
36:58 I was going to say you can't be divorced if you don't get married.
Speaker 2:
37:00 Exactly man.
Speaker 1:
37:01 There you go.
Speaker 3:
37:03 That's not a shot at you either.
Speaker 1:
37:05 I wasn't divorced yet and zach knock on wood is never going to get a divorce. This poor kid's got to stay married for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1:
37:12 I think his old lady would hunt him down if he didn't um, but I agree with that generational but and, on the other hand, in my family, uh, if you go back a generation, they're all proper people. It's my generation, that kind of shit, the bucket right. Most of my family is either criminal or has a criminal past, and I think I've had to work real hard to shake that off, especially especially within the last couple of years, four or five years. So I, my kids, don't live with me anymore and, uh, when that happened, I kind of kind of had a breakdown, right as any, as any parent would have their children for any period of time. Right.
Speaker 1:
38:00 And I kind of slipped back into old ways and shit. And I kind of slipped back into old ways and shit and it's taken a lot to kind of pull it out and I think this podcast is is a good help. We started doing this, I guess, just to try and help our fellow co-workers and shit not fall down this path, because you know, it seems to be the thing up here you fall down into drugs and you start selling drugs and you know that's what happens and you start falling down that slope and a lot of people don't make it out no, barely, barely
Speaker 2:
38:37 any of them do right, yeah, I mean I I did that for a good seven, almost almost eight years of my life man. I sold drugs. You know that was my life. I grew up in a very traumatic, had trauma all the time, you know. So I reached out to a gang because I thought that that's where I felt, you know, like a brotherhood. You know, that's what I thought real love was I was, in a sense, of security yeah yeah, yeah, really, because I didn't really have it.
Speaker 2:
39:08 My dad wasn't there, my mom, I was just, I wasn't a good kid man, I was a punk in my younger age, you know, and that's what it is whole drugs. But then, soon as I was having my daughter, I changed everything, changed everything, got the phone call. My kid's mom calls me. She's like I'm pregnant. I'm like I'll call you. Right back, hung up the phone, right on her. I called my buddy and I was like I'm done, I'm walking away, I'm going to be a dad. This is what I want to do. I don't want any money, I don't care about anything. I'm going to disappear and go be a dad. I called her right back. I'm like okay, I'm ready to be a dad. I walked away in that moment. It changed my whole life in that split second. Then I went and did labor. I was working for $16.50 an hour.
Speaker 2:
39:55 I remember the first day in construction. I cut the shit out of my hands. I was bleeding everywhere. I was like this sucks man, I'm going to go back to selling drugs. And then I told myself no, I'm going to be a dad. How am I going to raise a child? Watching my back, you know, don't know if I'm going to get shot or killed. I got shot five times. My mom's house got shot up, my own friend shot up. My house tried to kill me. My ex was sitting on the computer and the bullet hit the computer screen, just missed her. You know, I was like that's not what I want for my family. Fuck that shit. And I became a laver. I just pushed through that shit. Now I'm killing it, man, I'm killing it. I'm doing a great job. I work for one of the best companies out there. At one point I had my own company and it's all about the mindset, man. It's all about the mindset.
Speaker 1:
40:51 That's where we're at man. Along with the podcast, zach and I are starting a couple other business ventures right around here that we're kind of excited about. But we're kind of a little hush hush about right now because we get it. Yeah, yeah, we're.
Speaker 1:
41:12 We're sick of driving to work in the morning well, the afternoon, in our case, every day to work for somebody else we're deciding to make that move and I think after after having a lot of the same struggles between the two of us, we kind of feel that bond a little bit and it's much easier to work together. It's much easier to work on projects like this together because we've both been through the same shit man and again that age difference. We kind of bonded over experiences and, as vague as that sounds, we've both had somewhat of a criminal past and we're both willing and ready to admit we did wrong for a lot of years.
Speaker 1:
41:49 But now we're trying to do something else. We're trying to get back to the community with our podcast and fuck yeah trying to just get the word out there that fucking you can see the end of the light guys.
Speaker 2:
42:04 Yep, yep, you know what. And check them out. This is dad talks, man. Check them out, show them some love. And what a dad talk is is you know you sit the younger generation down and you have that dad talk, am I right? Yeah, we totally agree, man.
Speaker 1:
42:20 Have that dad talk, am I right? Yeah, we totally agree, man. A lot of situations that we have either seen or we have a strong opinion on. Either way, we think sometimes just hearing somebody else's opinion on a matter will sway you a little bit, and a lot of times, when you're in the matter yourself, it's kind of hard to see the right way out of it.
Speaker 5:
42:43 I mean we even love to do a podcast where we had somebody of an older generation come on and put their point of view out there and their experiences because they they know of a lot more than they'd know, twice as much as being him together that's true you know, in the older ways too, you know, I mean like, like, let's face it, man, like times are changed, right?
Speaker 2:
43:06 yeah, yeah I would.
Speaker 3:
43:07 I would disagree and say that that they know more than you. I wouldn't agree with that. They would just have a different, different yeah different life experience.
Speaker 1:
43:15 Yeah, exactly, yeah I like to think that boy, between our years man, we pack a lot of experience between us.
Speaker 5:
43:24 We'd rival things of that day and age that they grew up in, that we weren't alive to experience ourselves.
Speaker 3:
43:30 I agree but disagree, zach. There's also things that you've experienced in your time at your age that none of us three else have experienced. Because you grew up in a, you grew up in a technology age man. I remember when there wasn't internet. I remember getting fucking yelled at to get off the computer. I remember when nintendo was the only thing we had that was me when I was young, really cool buddy atari and cleco man that was it running that fucking mom, get off the phone.
Speaker 2:
43:59 I'm on the internet. Your, your dial-up is you never would have to experience that You're lucky.
Speaker 3:
44:08 I remember waiting for a photo to load on a porn site and it'd take you half a day just to see a nipple. For fuck's sakes, oh fuck. I was too young for that.
Speaker 5:
44:15 I grew up on the other side of the mountain there, so the doctor and all of them didn't want to come and give uh internet to nobody. We were out of range, out of service. Fuck, that's right.
Speaker 2:
44:25 We grew up with all that shit, man we were.
Speaker 5:
44:27 We were like uh, we were the boondocks, you didn't come to our area Bomb fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:
44:32 Yeah, well, we grew up with all that stuff, man. We went outside. Yeah, we went outside.
Speaker 5:
44:44 I was teenager by the time we finally had.
Speaker 3:
44:45 I think I was like maybe about 14 15 years old that we finally got wi-fi, air floors, walking uphill both ways and six feet of snow to school right you know, I remember dialogue bro and I remember before that we fucking icq
Speaker 2:
44:58 man remember icq and fucking that shit back in the day. The day. You guys remember that shit. That was like one of the first. I'm too old then, man that was one of the first messengers.
Speaker 1:
45:11 Oh yeah, I don't remember that shit at all.
Speaker 3:
45:13 Yahoo, all that shit, I remember MSN messenger.
Speaker 2:
45:16 Putting cryptic song lyrics.
Speaker 3:
45:18 Putting cryptic song lyrics in your fucking Name. People like wonder what you were Talking about. You thought you were talking about fucking my space.
Speaker 1:
45:25 And you thought you were oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you put some fucking emo song.
Speaker 3:
45:29 Oh, yeah, yeah I'm a fucking elder emo. I am not ashamed to admit that, man. It was not a phase, bro. I, the music I listen to now, still fuck.
Speaker 1:
45:39 Same shit, man I listened to a little bit of everything, but I never got right down with the emo. We were more punks around here, yeah, okay, like some misfits and shit like that. I remember going to like underground punk shows in like the terrible area when we were 17 18. That was a big thing around here, not Not so much the email, though. Yeah.
Speaker 2:
46:06 It's almost the same music in a sense, but not really. It's like a branch of it, isn't it? I'm gonna get shot for this shit. Now.
Speaker 3:
46:12 You can email me at eric, at eric, I'll send you a song of like the type of shit that I listen to, Just so you can kind of see where I'm at.
Speaker 2:
46:21 Alright, yeah, just so you can kind of see where I'm at all right, yeah, just so. Yeah, well, I think, is it this kind of stuff? You sent me the the other stuff before.
Speaker 3:
46:28 I don't know if I sent you this stuff before. I don't share this with very many people. They're select friends that I share this type of music with this is like the music I listen to let's, I'm not gonna fucking play it right now no, it just sounds like noise. Yeah, but I'll send it to you after. It's like fucking. There's like orchestras in it and it's just like screaming. It's wonderful actually.
Speaker 3:
46:52 I love it when I'm like working at someone's house and I'm like changing their windows and I just have my headphones in and it just sounds like a fucking war going on in my head and it's just like little old people. I can sing like that, man, what you can do, the growls and stuff Fucking. There's a science behind it, can you? You should do it, man. Yeah, there's a song, yeah, yeah, there you go you got the new theme song ready to go.
Speaker 1:
47:24 Yeah, as you come to ours after, we're willing. We're willing to take screamo as the new uh in brand.
Speaker 2:
47:32 I don't know, it's just one of my, one of my things. Usually you got to train for that shit for like years, man, to get your your voice, like that I heard.
Speaker 3:
47:39 But yeah, there's a guy there's a guy who used to go around I think he still does it His name's Jared Dines, but he would go to shows and he would go up to someone and be like let me hear your best metal scream. Just like prove. It's not as easy as people think it is, and they try and they sound like fucking idiots. And he's like so you See, I told you it's not as easy as you think it is. It's fucking hard, man.
Speaker 2:
47:58 Mine's from just screaming at my daughter all the time. Put that down Get down. What are you doing?
Speaker 3:
48:04 Yeah, what do you think you're touching that for oh?
Speaker 1:
48:06 gosh, I never hit that stage. My kids were fucking solid I think by the time they were three. No, I'm just joking man. I think every lucky star I've got bro.
Speaker 2:
48:17 Yeah, how about sleeping when they were young? Did you sleep right through the night?
Speaker 1:
48:22 I think not right off, but I always worked nights so it was kind of a good tradeoff.
Speaker 2:
48:30 Mine never. Like she would never woke up. Man, I had like parents were coming up to me and they're like oh, how's your sleep? I bet it sucks. I'm like what are you talking about? I had a great sleep. I got 10 hours. What do you mean? Like it was awesome, like she would like sometimes she would wake up for feeding, right when she was a baby, but other than that she slept, man. I was great Until she hit two. And then it was like haha, motherfucker Got you. Oh shit yeah.
Speaker 1:
48:59 See two is like sidekick age. Yeah, when both my kids hit two. They were sidekick. Let's go. Yeah. They were my fucking ride or die yeah.
Speaker 2:
49:08 Oh well, that's when my well, I mean, I hate to say it. So it was a little harder for me because when my daughter was two years old, she was viciously mauled by a dog and she had 400 stitches from her forehead all the way down to the bottom of her chin and, yeah, that was probably the most scariest thing that I've ever had to gone through. And what was more more painful is when I was in the hospital, like I ran there, like I was coming from work, and her mom calls me and she's like there was an accident. Her name's kinley. My daughter kinley, got bit by a dog and I was like is she okay? She's like I don't really know yet. Um, I'll let you know.
Speaker 2:
49:57 And then, um, I was with one of my employees because I used to have my company at the time, and they're like oh shit, just drop me off here. I'm like, yeah, and as like I was pulling over to drop him off at the bus stop. I get a phone call back. She's like it's bad, it's bad, she's going to the hospital right now. It's bad, it's bad. So she told me which hospital. I ripped it there. And as soon as I got to the hospital, her mom was like in the middle of the parking lot just on the ground screaming just in a wreck. I was like fuck, it's bad. I literally just slammed my truck in the middle of the parking lot, got out just left it ran in and this lady's like who are you? I'm like my daughter, where's my where? The fuck is my daughter? Like you're the dad.
Speaker 2:
50:44 I'm like yeah, it's my fucking daughter so they brought me back in an emergency and, fuck man, I'm telling you, dude, I hope nobody ever goes through that. It's like seeing, you know, especially a daughter, you know, like she's in pain, she's just oh, fuck, yeah, it's just. It's hard, man, you know, seeing the person that you love, that you're everything, you're why, and there's nothing you can do to take that fucking pain away.
Speaker 1:
51:18 There's nothing you know that's the worst as a parent to see your kid suffering like that helpless bro and anyway, fuck. I'm sorry that happened to you, man, yeah yeah, it was she recovered fully, I hope buddy.
Speaker 2:
51:32 The next day man, she was running around laughing in the hospital like nothing happened. She we got her like this monkey fucking thing that she, like it's got their hands connect and she just wore it and she was like running down the hallways man it was. It was like nothing happened, but I mean like 400 stitches man and we were so lucky we had one of the best surgeons in the world. She was actually in vancouver teaching a course and yeah um, they asked her if she would.
Speaker 2:
51:59 She would do this surgery on my, my daughter's, face, and she did it. And there was fucking like 18 doctors in there because she was teaching a course. So they're all watching her and I wasn't they. They only let one parent in the operating room, so I let her mom go in. I fucking, I'll tell you man waiting outside, while that I was pacing back and forth, I put a fucking hole in the ground from just going back and forth, right you know. And when she came out, she's like I'm not bullshitting you, these are the best stitches I've ever done in my life. They're so tight, like you're. You're gonna still be able to see the scar, but not as much.
Speaker 2:
52:35 But because she's little, the scar is going to be pushed back and it's going to go by her ear eventually and which it is yeah, so it was pretty amazing, man, but I'm telling you that probably that and my fiance passing away were probably two of the biggest fucking, the biggest things in my life. That's really affected, definitely, and you have no control over it, and that's the shitty thing is, you know, you just gotta ride those waves and hopefully wish for the best on on whatever happens man, I agree a hundred percent, especially with things that seem definitely out of your control, bro.
Speaker 2:
53:17 And then you know, just to watch your kids suffer like that yeah, it was hard, man, it was I don't. Like I said, I don't even wish that on my enemies, man, you know I don't. She was literally screaming there. You could open up like the dog ripped her whole side open of her face and you could open up and see right into her fucking mouth.
Speaker 2:
53:38 Man, like it was that bad and she's just screaming daddy, daddy, daddy, you know, and I'm helpless, you know, just fucking. All I want to do is I wish I could just take that and put it on me and me, be me, have that pain and me be able to hold that and and no suffering for her. You know it was. It was rough, man. It was rough, but she's okay, man, at the end of the day she's okay. And my other dog, karma, she was amazing. Karma was fucking awesome, so patient, she brought my daughter sorry, she brought my daughter to liking dogs again, so it was really good. That's another story.
Speaker 2:
54:17 Man, I had to take my own dog's life, man a couple, uh, almost almost three years ago now. So what happened with that is, I woke up in the middle of the morning, like it was early morning, like five, six in the morning, and well, not that early, but um, she puked all over my bed. So I grabbed my dog and I'm I'm like, okay, we gotta go take her outside. So I took her outside. You know, make sure you get her some fresh air. And then she's just puked all over my bed. So I grabbed my dog and I'm like, okay, we got to go take her outside. So I took her outside, you know, make sure to get her some fresh air, and then she's just puking, not doing good, and then she's like starts walking in and she starts stroking and she's just like stuck and she's just like it was bad.
Speaker 2:
54:54 So then she went from a stroke straight to. She fell right to sleep because it's so hard on their body, right. So, yeah, you know, I mean. So it went hard stroke and then went straight to sleep. And then she would wake up hard stroke and then straight to sleep. And she was 13 years old man, she had cancer, you know, she had arthritis in her back legs. It was her time, right, like this, was it right? It was just slowly, she was slowly dying, and then she just would like non-stop stroke and then sleep, stroke, sleep. So at this point I was just like, okay, I gotta put my arm around her and and yeah, tell her lower man, that's fucking rough.
Speaker 2:
55:38 Well, I called four. I called at least 40 fucking animal hospitals. None of them would take her until the next day. I even called a euthanized company, two companies actually and they come to your house and they'll euthanize your dog there, and every single one was busy. It was fucked. So, yeah, that was, and every single one was busy, it was fucked.
Speaker 1:
56:03 So yeah, that was harder Around here, bro. We grew up on farms, so we grew up doing that kind of shit. You'd raise an animal to maturity and then you'd have to shoot it because it was lame, or you know, milk cows are like that all the time. I don't know how many pets I started when you're little like that. You know milk cows are like that all the time. I don't know how many pets I started. When you're little like that, you start naming them and then after a while, you learn not to, I guess. Well, I'm a city boy man.
Speaker 2:
56:28 So it's a little different, you know.
Speaker 1:
56:31 Yeah, no, I totally agree. I can see where that would be hard for some people.
Speaker 2:
56:36 I was your best friend for 13 years, man. You know, yeah, that's been for 13 years, man. You know, yeah, that's a, that's a big thing. I just want to bring this up before. I don't mean to cut off. But, zach, you have a message here about the puppies that were left at the door yeah, so we have.
Speaker 5:
56:53 We had wanted to get a puppy go along with the husky that we have. We have a husky. He's uh almost a year and a half and turns out one day. We just uh ended up with two puppies. One of them they were like probably a couple weeks old, they weren't even ready to leave their mother yet, but uh, they got put onto us. And one of the puppies its front leg on the left side and front leg on the back side, was like just not there at all, like underdeveloped. It must have uh got hurt in the womb or something. And then the other one was uh a bit rough. It was actually like split right open and it had two external wounds that you could see inside of its body and we were trying to take care of them as much as we could. We were cleaning them. I went to the store.
Speaker 2:
57:52 They just landed on your door Like someone just put them on your doorstep.
Speaker 5:
57:54 Yeah, I went to go get some formula for them to eat because they needed something to eat, because they should not have been separated from their mother yet. I mean, they were in horrible condition. They probably should have gone to a vet, but it was on a weekend and, from where we're from, no vets are open on a Saturday or Sunday.
Speaker 1:
58:14 There's one.
Speaker 5:
58:15 There's one, but not very long either.
Speaker 1:
58:18 No, I mean there's one vet in the entire area that'll do house calls for that shit. That's how far in the boondocks we are.
Speaker 5:
58:26 Back when I was real young, I remember there being a weekend call, but now there isn't.
Speaker 5:
58:30 Yeah, there ain't shit, we couldn't do nothing. We had to wait until Monday to bring the puppies to the vets. We brought them as soon as we could in the morning and there was nothing we could do for them. I mean, unfortunately somebody had dropped them on Friday. If they would have decided just to go to the vets or had knocked on the door, maybe we probably still could have got those dogs to the vets on Friday and saved their lives. But it had been too long and they had to put them both down right there.
Speaker 2:
59:05 Was it a human that did it, or they were just born like that and they just couldn't take care of them?
Speaker 5:
59:09 They were born like that and they just didn't want to deal with it. I think they just tossed them onto somebody else.
Speaker 2:
59:17 I'm so sad to do that shit, man. They just tossed them on to somebody else. So sad to do that shit man.
Speaker 5:
59:21 Yeah, yeah, because, luckily, because of the vet, we had told them what had happened, they didn't charge us or nothing for the euthanization.
Speaker 2:
59:28 So that's crazy that they would even just charge, though you know what I mean. Like just don't put the fucking dog out of its.
Speaker 5:
59:37 They charge you for emergency visit anytime you go out here if you don't have a scheduled appointment it's the same here.
Speaker 3:
59:43 Like it's expensive as fuck too really yeah super expensive but just like what?
Speaker 2:
59:48 like you know, like the fucking poor animal is suffering. You know what I mean. But no, I need my money before I can put it down like it's just.
Speaker 3:
59:58 That's why I could never do a job like that, Like you have to show compassion to someone and be like. By the way, it can cost you five grand. Yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:00:07 I remember before I went to treatment back in 2021, I was on the phone with the owner of the treatment center Cause I got his phone number. This guy knew it's like take this phone number, call this guy and go there as soon as you can. And he was like take this phone number, call this guy and go there as soon as you can. So I'm on the phone, I'm telling this guy my life story and I'm like crying on the phone and he's like listen, man, like I get it. He was very supportive on the phone. And then, right at the end of the phone call, he's just like so, like it costs $40,000 to come here. And I'm just like okay, like okay. I'm just like okay, like okay. I was like I'm gonna have to call you back. So I called biden. I'm like he wants forty thousand dollars. He's like just go, I'll take care of it. And I was like holy fuck, thank god.
Speaker 3:
1:00:46 I mean like help save my life, yeah but, still like I couldn't imagine having to be in that position where someone's already like emotionally vulnerable and then have to bring up money. You know what I mean. Like I'm assuming there's a skill to it and in a way to do it properly. I just wouldn't have that skill.
Speaker 1:
1:01:04 A lack of empathy is what it takes. I think right. Yeah. Of course you have to be empathetic to your which. It's all a show once you realize that the empathy drops as soon as the money comes up.
Speaker 3:
1:01:18 Yeah, but even if it's not a show, it looks like one as soon as you bring out money. Absolutely.
Speaker 5:
1:01:25 There was somebody I worked with that told me that their dog it was just like a teacup dog had got attacked by another dog. She brought it to the vet and they told her they could save its life but it was going to cost her 15 grand. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:
1:01:45 That's wild. I don't know man For a dog.
Speaker 5:
1:01:50 Yeah, I mean something you're attached to a lot.
Speaker 2:
1:01:53 I'd save a dog before a lot of humans out there. I'll tell you that, man, my dog's my best friend. I'm petting her right now. She's right here. She came and said hi, man, like perfect timing. That's my new dog, anyways, but she's awesome. So why don't you tell us a little bit of what you guys got in store, man? What do you guys got in store coming up here on? Uh, for the dad talks like not, not not the jew stuff that you guys are, but I mean, like you know, so people can kind of have an idea of what's coming up for you guys.
Speaker 1:
1:02:23 So this week coming up on Saturday, we've got another guest, my buddy Alan's, coming on. He's a trained hypnotist and MMA trainer. He's kind of a wanderer. The guy has been all over the country flying his trade. He's going to come and talk to us about a couple things oh yeah after that we've got the second half of our like origin story show. We kind of started that this week and we touched on a lot of the topics that led us to making the podcast and that'll get posted after tonight it'll be posted tonight, hopefully within the next 20 minutes after we finish taping.
Speaker 2:
1:03:02 Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:
1:03:03 Yeah, we were kind of late on that one. We taped it on Thursday, I think, something like that.
Speaker 5:
1:03:11 No, I think it was Friday, because we put off Wednesday and Thursday.
Speaker 1:
1:03:14 Oh, that's right, because we had so much bullshit between the two of us and, I think, just some more. I don't know, I don't know. After that it's kind of a touch and go. We're just going to try and get our stories out there. We're going to get a little bit more into a lot of stuff that we've kind of been through, right, hopefully, hopefully help out a couple of people you've kind of been through, hopefully help out a couple people along the way.
Speaker 1:
1:03:45 I don't know personally what Zach had wanted to share about the future. I remember what you were saying. How about that? Well, I don't know, we'll see. Guys, as you can tell, it's kind of by the seat of our pants right now hey, man, we're the same way. We kind of just plan it a couple weeks at a time and go from there we're the same man.
Speaker 2:
1:04:11 Honestly, the only thing that's planned is our guests. Other than that, we talk to the guests and we really don't want to know too much about their story, because we like the shock factor. You know what I mean. We want it to be raw.
Speaker 3:
1:04:24 Just authentic yeah, yeah man.
Speaker 2:
1:04:27 No, yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah, not shock factor, but, yeah, authentic, because that's what we're here for. We're raw, right. You know what I mean? Anything that happens, I mean Anthony's screen drop a couple times, he comes back, but that shit keeps on going. We play that shit. This is Raw Minds. What you see is what you get, man. We just like to have fun at the same time going through it. That's what it's about, as long as you're having fun doing your podcast, man. That's what it's all about and that's what matters, man.
Speaker 1:
1:04:55 At the end of the day, that's where we're at, man, we enjoy doing this, we enjoy sitting here bullshitting back and forth and we enjoy getting a little bit into uh, deeper shit that we have both kind of seen. I know for myself. I've got a lot of shared experiences on on being a father, especially now on being I guess you'd say part-time father right, because I'm separated and my kids live elsewhere, and that's a little bit different, right, co-parenting with not so cooperative co-parent. You know what I mean. And my kids are much older now and they're more independent than they used to be. And that's a struggle for me, especially being I was so close with my kids for a lot of years and now that they're more independent, they both have significant others that they'd rather spend a little bit more time with. Do you have boys or girls? I have one of each.
Speaker 2:
1:05:52 Nice, and you have another family.
Speaker 5:
1:05:54 No, I got a little boy.
Speaker 2:
1:05:56 Say this, zach, and this is going to hurt your feelings, but whatever, you haven't fathered until you fathered a daughter, it's a whole different ballgame, brother. I have to say, man, it's a whole different ballgame because you have a son. So, when your son goes and scratches his knees, you're like, ah, he'll be fine, you know he's a boy. But when your daughter scratches your knees, that's your little princess. And here's the thing, though, that sucks. You just have to worry about one dick. We got to worry about everybody else's. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:
1:06:31 So it's a struggle yeah.
Speaker 5:
1:06:35 But I mean, if you really want to look at it that way, kid can go around, get a lot of girls pregnant too at the same time.
Speaker 1:
1:06:42 You've only got to give one dad. Talk to that kid Now. Every time your daughter comes home with a little boy knock on wood and everything holy.
Speaker 1:
1:06:55 My daughter's boyfriend is such a great, great kid. That's awesome. It is a hard-working little shit, shit, and I can't say one bad word about him. So and they've been together now for quite some time, which, as a parent, you've got mixed feelings about. Right, because you know your kids are going to have relationships going through high school. You know you did, I know I did right, so it's, it's, uh, it's a mixed boat man, because you're so happy that they're happy and still thriving but, at the same time you're like what the fuck are you doing, you little shit.
Speaker 2:
1:07:30 You know the. The crazy thing too, though, now is I find that kids have it a harder time now. You know, we may say back then but it's really, it's, it's a popularity. Like we were saying earlier, you got the internet, man, the popularity. How many fucking followers do you have? How many fucking views like, come on, that's what a lot of people base everything off of. That's a thing, man.
Speaker 1:
1:07:55 Yeah, man, how old are your kids?
Speaker 2:
1:08:00 I just have the one, and she's 11.
Speaker 3:
1:08:02 11?, my daughter's 10, and my son is 6.
Speaker 1:
1:08:05 Okay, so you're getting there. They'll get a cell phone soon and then when you start, no, they ain't ever fucking getting them when they get to that age they're getting locked in the goddamn basement.
Speaker 3:
1:08:14 No cell phones for my kids.
Speaker 1:
1:08:19 They've got ipods, they facetime me and shit all the time. Yeah, that 13 mine had cell phones and that was, uh, that's a scary thought in itself because you're giving the a kid the entire information of a whole age of people. Yeah, and they're pumped and they can look at it good or bad, and you know they're gonna look at the bad right along with the good you know what I heard that fucked me up.
Speaker 3:
1:08:41 I heard this one time is when you give your kid a cell phone, you're not giving your kid access to the world, you're giving the world access to your kid.
Speaker 1:
1:08:47 So true, and it's true. It's true, it's a scary thing Up here. I think it's a necessity, because every house is not where. It's not bicycle distance away. Right, your kid is going to a friend's house, you've got to drive them. Your kid's coming back, you've got to pick them up, that's it.
Speaker 5:
1:09:05 Yeah, I mean it is a necessity, but I mean I had a buddy, his mom and his dad. He was 16, 17, still going on, 18 years old. He didn't have a phone iPhone touchscreen phones, smartphones were a thing. His parents got him a flip phone Anytime he left that house. They gave him the phone. He was allowed to use it for emergencies. If he needed to get a hold of them, needed to get a hold of anybody, he came back phone went back to them.
Speaker 3:
1:09:31 That's the question I was going to ask. When did a cell phone become a necessity? Because, scott, if you grew up in the same area, it wasn't a necessity when you were a kid. Because, scott, if you grew up in the same area, it wasn't a necessity when you were a kid same with me. Man like I I said this before like my daughter's 10 years old, and I remember being 10, riding my bike around this fucking town, just stirring shit up, but I didn't have a cell phone, that's true, like I knew when I had to be home.
Speaker 3:
1:09:53 So like when did it become a necessity? But I'll give you a perfect example because I know, eric, you could probably relate. Like I didn't want my kid to have, like I didn't want my kids, like when my daughter was young, I didn't want them to have fucking tablets and like screen time and shit. Like if, if we're playing video games together, that's one thing. Like my, my son when he was. It sounds terrible, but like when he was younger, we used to love playing zombies together. You know, like that was our thing when he was four. He would just run around and follow me around.
Speaker 3:
1:10:22 We never wanted to get our kids into fucking iPads and tablets and shit. Then COVID happened. Then you had to have one or a laptop of some sort. But then I remember when our daughter brought a letter home from the school saying she needed an iPad at home and me and her mom just looked at each other. We're like fuck, we don't want our kid to be one of these kids. They're like locked onto the screen the whole time. So we talked to the school and the school's like listen, we totally understand where you're coming from, but in this day and age that if you don't give your child access to this, your child's going to be the one falling behind, because this is just the way the world is now.
Speaker 3:
1:11:00 So it's like well fuck, I guess my kids are getting fucking ipad. So now my daughter's been through three ipads in the 10 years she's been on this earth. I've never even owned one. You know what I mean. I have a cell phone, obviously, but like I bought this computer to do this, like I've just had a phone, but the kids just need fucking technology now just to do school, like that's what they do at school now.
Speaker 1:
1:11:21 Yeah, it's true, I went. I'm going back to college now as a fucking adult male, which is weird as shit. Right, yeah, but just to go to class. Nowadays I have a few in-person classes and if you don't have a laptop, you're falling behind. Yeah. It's just the way it is, and that's kind of a shitter compared to the first time I went to college. Everything was done on paper and in books.
Speaker 3:
1:11:44 Man, I was thinking about this the other day. So down there, do you guys have speeches? Like when you're in public school, do you guys remember doing speeches? When you're in public school. It had to be between three and five minutes and you could pick whatever you wanted to be the topic and you could do it on whatever you wanted, right? So so I have to quit smoking because I made my daughter a deal. I'll tell you guys this story. I told her last week.
Speaker 2:
1:12:07 That's good, though that she's making you do that, buddy, I quit. Now it's your turn, yeah.
Speaker 3:
1:12:11 Yeah. So my daughter did her speech on why smoking is bad Right, on why smoking is bad right. And there's a thing where, like, if you sign up you can go say it in the gymnasium and if you make it through the gymnasium you can go to the Legion and say it at the Legion and you can win $300. So she read me her speech. I'm like did you sign up for the gym? She's like no, I don't want to do it. I'm like you should do it. I'm telling one to the fucking gym. She's like I don't want to do it. I was like I'll tell you what if you sign up for the gym and you make it to the gym, I'll quit smoking. So what she do goes to school the next day, signs up for the gym, says her speech, gets the best mark in the class, the first one to pick, to go to the gym.
Speaker 3:
1:12:47 I'm like, fuck, so now I gotta quit smoking but, I was thinking about this when she was doing her speech. Like man, I remember doing a speech and I don't know why I remember this one. I remember doing a speech on yodeling in like grade six or seven, okay, but I remember trying to do research on yodeling and back then there was like so much limited information on the internet like anything that you clicked on it brought you to the same fucking website with the same information you know and like now these kids have access to everything it's like when we did it, we just yeah, they don't even have to think.
Speaker 3:
1:13:23 But like I remember having to like research and like dig and look in books and find this shit. They don't even need to do that anymore okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2:
1:13:31 We gotta stop right there for a second. Let's hear your fucking yodel oh, buddy, I didn't know.
Speaker 3:
1:13:37 No, no, no, we're not. Oh, let's do it, man. I just know all I can remember from back then is like trying to find information and it kept bringing me the same website. I'm like this is the same fucking website. So it's like just copy it pretty much copy and paste and then change some words so you don't get in trouble for plagiarizing. So I don't know. It's just I remember have having to like work hard to like learn shit. You know what I mean. And now it's. It's almost like a copy and paste society where it's like you don't actually have to know it, you just need to know where to find it so you can take it from somewhere and put it over here to make it look like it's yours you know what, though, also, man?
Speaker 2:
1:14:17 it's also because there's ai for everything. I mean, we use ai all the time, and my dog's chasing her tail, we use ai for everything. You know what I mean, like for our programs. I mean, this is ai. It's going to switch it back and forth when we're talks and stuff. Right, it helps. What it is, though, is like it society. It's making society more lazier. I guess you could say, yeah, but at the same time, more efficient too. So it's got its it's. It's got its balance. You know what I mean, so you can, instead of taking like three days to put something out, you can have it out in 10 minutes I agree, I agree on that, on that part.
Speaker 1:
1:15:00 But now to streamline society, isn't it? Isn't it easier if people just know shit off the top of their head? 100 brother that's what I'm saying yeah, I think the days of that shit have gone. We were talking. People don't even know how to fucking read a tape measure anymore.
Speaker 3:
1:15:15 Oh, no, you guys were yeah oh we know, heard one in three marks or some stupid I had a fucking guy work for me one time and he asked me why it was called a square when it's shaped like a triangle I fired him two days later okay I was like there you go, holy fuck, but I yeah, I know what you're saying like wisdom, wisdom isn't going to be a thing anymore I wisdom is passed down knowledge, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:
1:15:39 And I think when you show a little bit of wisdom, nowadays you're considered the dad of the group. You know what I mean. Like you hang out with a bunch of people and then the one who throws down the most wisdom you're like all right, dad. Whatever you say. Yep. And that's kind of what this shit is all about. We kind of have to be the dads of the group most of the time, yeah, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 2:
1:16:02 Well, what's that? There's an old buddha saying, and it's like the kid comes and asks for something for some food and the dad instead goes and shows them how to fish, because if I give you the food, you're just going to eat that day, but if I show you how to fish, you're going to eat for the rest of your life. Yeah, or something like that I probably. There's a bunch of parables like that man yeah, but the message is clear.
Speaker 1:
1:16:28 You know, like, like this guy. I know, uh, eric, you're all about paying it forward and shit, and you've been super helpful on this podcast stuff. Without you, I think we wouldn't have had the video yet, and we recorded our first video this week. So, hell, yeah, you know it's. It's helpful when people that have already been through this shit reach back, uh, behind you. It's too often that you find we're like a fucking lobster pot.
Speaker 2:
1:16:52 You know, as jordan peterson would say, you're too quick to cut down the ones that are trying to climb out of the fucking bottom yeah, man I want everybody around me to fucking do good, man, at the end of the day, like I don't care if you made more money than me, or or you're flying, I'm happy for you. Man. You know, like we all in this world together, at the end of the day, be happy for your fucking fellow people beside you, you know, build them up. I don't know. To me, that's what I think a real leader is, and I'll tell you the difference between a boss and a leader. A boss will tell you what to do. A leader will ask you what to do. You know, and I just find that you know you helping people, man, it could change their life.
Speaker 2:
1:17:36 You know, and it costs you nothing, exactly, man, like I got no secrets. You know, like, fuck, all my shit is all over the internet and we're all over the 20 different countries. Man, I got no secrets. You know, like, I'm all about helping.
Speaker 1:
1:17:52 Holy, my dog is going crazy for a tail right now, but I'm all about helping, man, you know just, and all I ask for you guys is pay it forward to someone else, man, it's the ripple effect you know, and you helping another person will help another person will help another person, and it just keeps on going, man and that's what we're trying to do, man, that's what our aim is with this podcast and and, I guess, in in life pretty much, because most of the stuff we talk about on the podcast is from our real-life experiences and real-life conversations A lot of times. Well, I know we're only four episodes deep, but a lot of the topics that we touched on in the podcast previous were conversations we had in the train car. Yeah, the first three.
Speaker 5:
1:18:37 The fourth one is the first episode that wasn't based on prior conversation that's true, that's true, so.
Speaker 1:
1:18:45 So yeah, we we're all about imparting that little bit of wisdom back.
Speaker 2:
1:18:49 You know, we just want to help in hand and that's what I love what you guys are doing. As soon as I heard you guys podcast, I loved it, man, and that's what I'm saying check these guys out. You know dad talks man on pretty much all platforms now and will be video by the time you guys hear this one yeah, the first video will be out, so check them out on you. Yeah, man, my shit is going fucking flashy. I'm like in and out, I'm like a hologram, yeah, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2:
1:19:18 It's I just moved, man. I'm trying to work shit out. It's probably something with the wires or something like this, but I'll have it all worked out by next week definitely fucking right you need to. You need to ask it, man. You need to ask it, anthony, you didn't last time I know I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 3:
1:19:34 So at the end of every episode, boys, we always ask our guests this question what's your message to the world? In one sentence, and you can each answer separately.
Speaker 2:
1:19:43 Yeah, we want separate answers.
Speaker 1:
1:19:53 What's your message to the world? World Shit. He's right, that's a rough one. I love it when it blindsides people.
Speaker 5:
1:19:59 Man, I Shit. You're right, that's a rough one.
Speaker 1:
1:20:01 I love it when it blindsides people.
Speaker 3:
1:20:03 man, I love it.
Speaker 1:
1:20:05 Yeah, that's a real rough one. Ask for help, if that's it, ask for help. Everybody I've ever met, even the rough shitbags, are willing to help you. If you break right down and ask for it and, like everything we do, you can ask for help, fuck yeah I like it.
Speaker 3:
1:20:27 Hell yeah, man, it's true, we all need to ask for help things didn't start happening in my life until I started asking for help yes, they got honest truth yeah and you know what, as men that's why we have this podcast.
Speaker 2:
1:20:42 But it's hard. As men, it's hard to fucking ask for help. I struggle every day fucking asking for help. Buddy, I moved my own, my whole house pretty much by myself because I didn't ask for help. But at the same time, like I'm showing you it's hard, I'm here on this podcast right now telling you the truth that I didn't ask for help and it's something that I struggle with.
Speaker 3:
1:21:09 Asking for help is fucking hard. I'll be completely fucking honest. I had a fucking wicked cry fest today. I don't really want to talk about it on the podcast as to why, but that shit happened. I did it alone, man. It's fucking hard to ask for help. I've got some people I can message after this that I've got to get back to, obviously, but yeah, it was a fucking hard day. I didn't want to come on here tonight.
Speaker 5:
1:21:30 Generally for men. If you are looking for help, most men will. I mean, they're not going to say it, but they're afraid to ask for it. It takes from the way it's been portrayed to be, I guess, but people just shouldn't be afraid to ask for help, because everybody needs help in one way or another. Definitely.
Speaker 3:
1:21:52 The only reason I brought that up, Zach, was to buy you a little bit more thinking time.
Speaker 1:
1:21:56 So your time's up, something profound, profound buy you a little bit of more thinking time so, yeah, your time's up something profound profound.
Speaker 5:
1:22:04 I don't mean to put you on the spot yeah from the heart brother from the heart man I mean it kind of goes along with the same thing with him, but it's kind of a little bit different. Mine's kind of more focused. It's, uh, I'd say it's kind of aimed towards my generation. I would say because, uh, a lot of my generation, they I don't know how do I put this- you don't have to sugarcoat anything too, just so you know I'm just trying to think about how I should put it.
Speaker 5:
1:22:37 It's just like uh, we all tried a lot of the the guys of my generation, at least for my area. We all try to be independent and try to do things on our own or just trying to make ourselves look good, so we don't. We're like I was saying about being afraid to ask for help, we're afraid to show our true selves, and nobody don't ask yourself yourself. Stop putting a wall and show who you really are.
Speaker 2:
1:23:01 Love it.
Speaker 3:
1:23:02 Fuck yeah. That was profound as fuck man. Yeah, you got it. Fuck yeah, right on, man Put that on his t-shirt yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:
1:23:11 Fuck, I'm like glitching like crazy.
Speaker 3:
1:23:14 It's something with your filter. I think it's because you're wearing all black, probably. I think it's because you're wearing all black. I don't know, I'm not the fucking tech guy here.
Speaker 2:
1:23:21 So I don't even own an iPad dude. I'll have this shit changed pretty soon, probably in about two weeks, man, we'll have a different setup here. I'm getting rid of the back screen. We'll have a TV up in the back. It'll be good, man, it'll be good, oh yeah oh, yeah, well. I can't thank you guys enough. It's always a pleasure. I always love chatting with you guys. Man dad talks is fucking something I stand behind.
Speaker 1:
1:23:48 Definitely man, 100% man shit out of that if anybody out there loves this shit, please give us a follow. We're at dad talks 25 or dad talks or dad dot talks. I'm sure we can shoot the all the. Please give us a follow. We're at DadTalks25 or DadTalks or Dad Talks. I'm sure we can ship all the info over there yeah.
Speaker 2:
1:24:05 Definitely will be in the description. Check these guys out, man. They're a good group of guys, man, and the shit. You know it's great Great. You guys got great content. And tonight is the next one coming out. Episode 4 is coming out tonight. There you go, fuck. I'm listening to that before I go to bed.
Speaker 5:
1:24:26 I'm going to smoke one and fucking listen to that boys.
Speaker 3:
1:24:28 Yes sir, I probably will not because it's already almost 1130. I will listen to it.
Speaker 3:
1:24:34 We have a holiday tomorrow, yeah, and for anybody listening on our side of things. If you appreciate what we do, or if you just want to do us a solid, give us a follow on all platforms. We are Raw Minds. You can find us everywhere. If you want to be a guest on our show, you want to come on and tell your story, share your experience? Hit us up at rawmindspodcastgmailcom. Drop your socials a little bit of your story. Like Eric said, we like to keep it very surface level because we like to keep the conversation for the episode. But hit us up, even if you're struggling, hit us up. We can just hold space, we can have a conversation. We can just be that void that you fucking scream into doesn't matter, that's what we're here for. And finally, we also have a website, raw mindscom, and we have a discord at rawmindscom and we have a Discord at Raw Minds. Hit us up. We're fucking everywhere everybody. And Snapchat.
Speaker 3:
1:25:24 And Snapchat. Yeah, eric runs that. I'm not much for Snapchat, but, yeah, hit us up wherever you can find us, drop us a follow. It's one click of a button and it means the world to us. And again, dad Talks. Thank you for coming out, boys.
Speaker 2:
1:25:39 We really and again dad talks thank you for coming out, boys, we really appreciate it. Hold on, it was a great show. I don't mean to cut you off there, but we have resources as well on there.
Speaker 3:
1:25:44 Yes, if you are struggling, if you go to our website, we have a resources page for pretty much anywhere in the world. You can find some information. If you are struggling, there's resources there. All of our episodes are there and I think there's. Do we have an about me? For both of us too?
Speaker 2:
1:25:57 We do with our mugs on there.
Speaker 3:
1:26:00 Yeah, not to inflate our egos at all, but yeah, we do Check it out, guys, we'd appreciate it. And again, dad Talks. Thank you for being here. It was a wonderful episode, always great talking to you guys. I'm sure this won't be the last time we have a conversation or a podcast together.
Speaker 1:
1:26:14 Hey, we look forward to doing it again sometime soon, guys. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:
1:26:18 Great time, hell. Yeah, guys. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure, and we'll be talking. You know we'll be making shit happen, man. And you know this is not the end of the collab, you know we'll go back and forth, Definitely man. So. Yeah, on that note. Thank you everybody for another great episode, and we're going to do this again tomorrow.
Speaker 3:
1:26:41 Tomorrow.
Speaker 2:
1:26:42 Yes, but if you're listening in the future, it didn't happen tomorrow.
Speaker 3:
1:26:48 Well, it'll come out probably tomorrow, because you're going to drop it Wednesday or Thursday, so it'll be out by Friday.
Speaker 2:
1:26:55 Yes, no, monday will be out by Friday. This will be out by Wednesday.
Speaker 3:
1:26:59 That's what I mean. So if you're listening to this, it'll probably be out tomorrow or the next day.
Speaker 2:
1:27:04 Yeah, the next day, there we go. Yeah, all right. Well, on that note, this is Raw Minds. We're out of here. Bye. Take it easy, hey, have a good night. Great episode, guys.
